Jeffrey Epstein Case Closed

Behind the scandal of Jeffrey Epstein was a much older network of power, influence, and secret ideology that shaped his rise and protected him for decades. This isn’t about one man, it’s about the system that built him.

We are joined by writer, researcher and author Leo Zagam to discuss his new book “The Rise and Fall of Frankist Monster”.

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Speaker 1 (00:38):
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(00:59):
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currently in the process of editing my latest documentary, Psychic Agent,
which will be released on Amazon Prime in the coming months.

(01:20):
With that down, we are joined today by a man
known for a brilliant career as Leo Young in the media,
in the music industry, as a record producer, who quickly
became popular on the Internet in two thousand and six
because of his direct involvement in the New World Order
and secret societies, known to the majority of us as
the Illuminati, writer, researcher, author, Leo Zagami. Welcome to the show,

(01:46):
how are.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You, what's the pleasure? And today to be live with you,
it's even a greater pleasure. I think this is the
first time, so thank you for having me on, and
of course to your views.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, it's the first time that you've been on the
show on a live broadcast. But we did meet at
Contacting the Desert a couple of year and we did
have a good discussion there. But someone tried to say
that I censored you, but that wasn't true at all.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Absolutely, I can't. There was nothing edited out of your interview.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
So my camera just shut off halfway shut off on
three other people.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Problem was I think with your camera, is it any
out of the bat?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
That's right, Yes it did, and it was unfortunate. But
I had to condense everybody's interview in the in the
one interview to make it long enough because I only
had like fifteen minutes of each individual. But anyway, that's
behind us. We're looking in the future now, Leo, and
I guess I'm going to start off with it's a
really big question. It's probably going to take you a

(02:51):
minute to explain, but why all of this back and
forth with the Epstein stuff. It seems like it's kind
of been covered up now we've had so much other
things going on. You know, there's files, now there's not files.
There is video, now there's not video. There's not video,
now there's video, and there's a minute missing out of
the videos. It's just a really big, confusing mess that's

(03:14):
going on right now with Jeffrey Epson. There's been so
much stuff that's happened since then that's kind of taking
the spotlight off of that. So your book is a
really refreshing thing to happen right now. So tell us
what's what do you think was going on there? Because
Trump said that he was going to release the files.
He said it on the Sean Ryan Shaw.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Okay, I think that the best way to answer you
is to direct your viewers and the potential readers to
the introduction of actual book would actually explain very clearly
why nothing is going to ever be fully disclosed regarding Epstein.
You see, my book gives a unique perspective. I mean,

(03:58):
there's been handed books written on the cases. You can imagine,
there's been thousands of articles, there has been documentary, So
what else can the journalists add? I add my experience,
of course within sticker societies, within religions, especially as somebody
who has studied very much Judaism, and so the answers

(04:23):
that are providing this book are more regarding the ancestry
of the protagonists and the people who built Epstein from scratch,
and that goes from the father of William Barr to
Less Wexner, to any other associate of Wexner being part

(04:45):
of the Mega Group, which is this Jewish study group
that was found in the early nineties. And this way
you can really understand the relevance of Jeffrey Sign and
why nothing is going to have to be fully disclosed because,
like I stay in the introduction of the book, this

(05:09):
will compromise the whole system of Washington, d C. From
A to Z. So it's not just a single political
party that will have some serious problems being the Republican
or vice versa the Democrats. It's the whole system. And
so the moment you are really exposing the system which

(05:33):
I talk about in this book, which is a system
which was by a very powerful sect Nobody really talks about,
if not a few historians relegating it, you know, in
history as some kind of sectarian moment for massia of

(05:57):
the Jews that in the end just dissolved InFine air
it didn't dissolve in thin air. And actually there were
historians like Gershon Scholeen who studied very much the Sabbati
and Frankist who confirmed that nothing was dissolved in thin air.
You know, you have to really study the history of

(06:18):
contemporary Judaism to understand why you have today a transgender
rabbi endorsing Zorah Madani Mandani or Zorah Mandani being endorsed
today by a large number of acidic Jews. If you
study this book, you understand then in reality, the sabat
In Frankists hid themselves, of course within the reform part

(06:44):
of Judaism, because that was directly influenced also by what
is the Jewish Enlightenment, which was very much influenced by
the Sabbatian Frankist. But at the same time you have
also those concerns revative Jews, which in the end gave
themselves birth to other forms of Judaism who today I

(07:09):
have the Reconstructionist, who today are just as bad and
who actually have let's say, I will not say destroyed,
but I would say cherry picking on the Mosaic laws.
Now for those who are doing us the Mosaic clause
are not only those in claws that were given by

(07:31):
God on the mountain, those seving commandments. There is actually
six hundred and thirteen prescepts that are given within the Torrade,
the five books that in the Old Testament that we
call the pentateel. So the fact that today we are
here discussing Jeffrey Epstein is because every time, and you

(07:58):
know this in the last few years you actually said
it in a way when you introduce me, there is
a lot of talk, but there is never really any
results from all this talk. It's like they get to
a certain point and it's like at that point the
excuse is, Okay, he was working with the intelligence community.

(08:21):
We can't access to that kind of information. So our
view of him is restricted or limited by our perception,
which of course is limited by the fact we don't
have access to those the documents of those that reality.
And then of course the same can be said also
about this involvement with the elite, which you know, just

(08:42):
like in the case of the now former Prince Andrew,
there's a guy who is so up in the system
whereby you can't really know everything about them. In fact,
that's why I King Charles might have sent them out
of the royal lodge, but lodge but he might have
to pay now a six figure some to get him
out of the way without him making further damage. So

(09:05):
this book is unique in a way because for the
first time we don't only see the Sabbatian Frankist evolving
within Jewish history, which is also very important element of
this book, which I have try to summarize in the
best way possible, working also with of course the material
provided by those credible sources, including not only Girt John Sholin,

(09:31):
but also Rabbi the later Rabbi Antherman and many others
who were similarly interested in raising questions about it. And
the problem within the academic world surrounding the Sabatan Frankis
to this day in universities in Tel Aviv in Jerusalem,
is that the moment in which you expose this heresi,

(09:55):
you go inevitably and exposed part of Judaism which is
still today in charge of things, because you know, you
have a state that claims a sort of legitimization through religion,
because that's how Israel was built by the Zionist Now,
in my work I explained how they were forced to

(10:21):
accept this return to Israel also, and the role of
Jeffrey Epsaying is not just a role of you know,
any kind of individual spy, because he was put in
place there as a spy master. He was given a
building really with cameras in the center of New York,

(10:42):
another place, fantastic place, and you know, facilitated the buying
or purchasing of an island for a very little amount
of money compared to what is the usual amount you
pay or what happened in New Mexico. But at the
same time, we are here not in front of a
simple or pervert. We were in front of a sort

(11:02):
of doctor Frankenstein, who is also very much obsessed by technology.
He is apparently involved in the backbone of Sofia the Robot,
because with his involvement with the actual software of hands
or robotics that he helped financing, he was directly involved,

(11:24):
regardless of what they said about him not being involved
with Sofia the Robot, And that is already a sort
of Frankenstein scenario. And then you have, of course his
will to spread his seed worldwide. He wanted to see
everybody with his DNA, But there was also much more
connected to his let's say mad scientist slash frankenstein Ish

(11:49):
kind of thing view of things, which by the way,
is connected also to a very ancient tradition within Judaism,
which is the goal which is something created out of
play by reciting certain formulas. And of course the capitalists

(12:09):
were in charge of that kind of thing, which was
then inspirational for Mary Shelley in a way was inspired
by both the Golden as well as Jackob frank and
his sect, as well as the Illuminati. And of course
we have also the husband who wrote also the one
in jew So it's important people understand the first of all,

(12:32):
this is not an anti Semitic book, and that's why
very much in the introduction that I wrote also for it,
not only the one which is of course more extensive
at the beginning of the book, but also the one
that is simply written on the back over, I explained
that this book is made also too really put some clarity,

(12:58):
which means means this clarity means that in the end
we are way too often casting a doubt but also
at times a form of racist of course, sometimes blatant
forms of racism against the Jewish people. When the Jewish
people have been at the first victims of their own

(13:23):
sectarian views and of their own rabbis who embraced them.
This is very important because in my book I explain,
you know, I like, I used to do this podcast
with Rosambar and she told me once the worst enemy
of the Jew is the Jew And I said, you mean,
and then she explained me that, and we agreed not

(13:46):
only with the Sabbatian Frankists, but you have to understand
that then you have if we go back even before
the times of SHABBATIV, who, by the way, for those
who are following as I was the founder of Sabbati,
of the Sabbatian movement and then the sect that became
the Domain, as well as Jaco franc who claimed to

(14:06):
be the further incarnation after Barukruz was the second incarnation
of this holy Trinity, which ended with Jaco Frank who himself,
rather than accepting the role of the massi of the Domain. Who.
Why I say Domain is because in sixteen sixty six SABBATAISEEVI,

(14:28):
who was believed to be the Messiah bar by almost
half a population in Europe. Jewish population in Europe converted
to Islam, and so he was rejected by a lot
of people for this choice. But there was then a
group of really hardcore you know, believers in him who
maintained and who followed this example by becoming crypto Jews

(14:52):
and converted to the Islamic faith outwardly. Now this kind
of modality and also of Jacob Frank will imitate this
modality with the Catholics. He will not accept to be
simply the the you know, the reincarnation of Shabbatai, and
stayed there in Saloniko and in the Saloniki and and

(15:14):
follow up with the domain he wanted to do much more.
So he went back to the Catholic place he came from,
which was nowadays Ukraine by at the time poland then
what was the the I think at the time the
Lithuanian Polish Commonwealth, and then all this area was part
of Podolia, that area which is the area also of

(15:38):
modern Ukraine, of Moldova or Ukraine, of other parts of
Eastern Europe below Woos and so on. These parts of
of Europe were seemingly infested by this Sabbatian heresy, and
it became even more per seas extent with Jacob Frank

(16:01):
when he brought to the Catholic Church twenty thousand Jews
to convert in exchange for his nobilitization like becoming a noble.
And then rather than keeping the sect marrying only with
each other, which was his initial idea, he then opened

(16:22):
up to marrying with not only marrying, but getting every
time one of them converted the surname of the family,
which will you know, become their godfathers for the baptism
in the Catholic Faith. That meant suddenly all these Sabbath
and Frankis will insulate themselves within the aristocracy of Europe,

(16:46):
both the Black aristocracy close to the pope, as well
as also the Anglican aristocracy in England. And we see
that suddenly we have the nobility, you know, the Rothchide
family becoming a noble and in the Enda as well
as in England, and then marrying with the with the
with the royalty, with the other aristocratic families. So my

(17:11):
book makes though attasts that is very linear, very clear,
with the credible sources, which I of course society one
by one in I think there is something like probably
almost five hundreds I think five unders over five hundred citations.

(17:33):
See not let me see because I'm not wearing my glasses.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
So classes and sometimes.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, sometimes, in any case, the citations and the sources
I use are non the bank about because you can
understand that when you are attacking the rabbinical system and
I'm like attacking the core of Judaism and I'm challenging

(18:01):
a little brick like two thousand years Jesus was put
on a cross for a similar thing. So I mean,
they don't they don't go easy on you if you
challenge them. So you want to be very you want
to be very honest about the sources you have, very transparent.
You want to maybe say one is controversial, one is

(18:25):
in a certain way, but I regard it as idonious
for citing it. Definitely, the sources need to be credited
in a way that you will not have any backlash
from the academic word. And in fact, this book is
presently number one in the history of Judaism and in
many other sections on Amazon, which have you know, some

(18:50):
of the most eminent historians of Jewish history or of
Jewish religion. So I'm glad that you had me on
today so we can maybe describe a little bit better
of this.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yes, and the really strange part about it. I mean,
you're correct, and a lot of that, I mean, the
transgender stuff comes directly out of Israel. It seems like
a lot of things are funded and come out of Israel.
But it's so interesting because it's like why now, why
are we going through this or why has there been

(19:28):
this big you know, Israel type of people waking up
to this idea. Right, really came from the left on
a lot of the stuff on college campuses, right, you know,
the free power.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
The problem is that they always fall into the trap
of anti Semitism. I mean, one thing is the race.
Another thing is the theology and the religion followed by
that race. And if that religion became corrupted for a
number of reasons, and you addressed those reasons like I

(20:04):
do in this book, you are not condemning the people.
You are actual, you know. I mean, for example, in
this book, I show how true the Sabatan Frankists they
were the pope. I mean, the Sabbatian Frankists were the
worst enemy of the Jews, and they themselves were Jews.

(20:24):
Not all Sabetian Frankis are Jews these days or in
the last hundred or two hundreds, of years. But initially
the Sabbatian Sabbatis and then Jacko Frankoho claimed to be
the recarnation. These were Jews who would do anything against
their own fellow Jew if they didn't accept their Messiah,

(20:45):
including and that is of course the most controversial claim.
But I said, Rabbi is of course for this, because
Otherwis could the accused of being a monster. The Holocaust Shoa,
the Showa and the transfer agreement that I preceded it

(21:06):
that was made between the scientist organizations and the Nazis.
You have to understand that, like I said earlier, it
was not easy to convince Jews to go back to Israel.
So first of all, in this book I explained how
the very idea of Zionism didn't really mature, initially within Judaism,

(21:34):
a mature Impuritanical England, and then later on in Anglican
England in the nineteenth century. Who was in charge of
Palestine after the Ottoman.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Empire that I am not familiar with.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
It was the English. It was an English protectorate. Okay,
so the English Premason, the Church of England, and before
that the Puritans and Oliver Cromwell. So my story goes
all the way back to Oliver Cromwell, who was the
only guy who beheaded the king and reigned with the
Republic in England for a limited amount of time. He

(22:17):
got the English back to England after a few hundred
years they had been casted out. And menasse Be Israel,
who was himself this rabbi and Jewish printer, the first
Jewish printer in the world, with the Jewish printer in
the Netherlands in Holland. He had this idea of together

(22:42):
with Cromwell, of bringing the Jews back to England and
then back to Israel. And he himself didn't really generate.
He wasn't really like he had invented. This whole concept
goes back to another gentleman who before him, this guy

(23:04):
here known as this French theologian called Isak Lapierre. This
guy here, this guy is Menase Ben Israel, and this
other guy is Israel prier now Bensebin Israel. Sorry, you're
probably the camera went with yes, Menace at the end

(23:31):
met with Oliver Cromwell and the and the Jews who
had been banned in the firfteenth century from England went
back to England. So one thing is already there is
concrete it's not a conspiracy. There talking facts, historical facts.
Then tooage of Oliver Cromler was very much into menasse

(23:51):
Ben Israel and his secretary Sadler, ended up writing a
book and establishing what is known as British Israelism, which
they believe that the English and the Scots are like
the Lost Tribe of Israel, which was a way to
tame in a way all the anti Semitism that had

(24:14):
been present there. So before manasse Ben Israel, this is
a la Prier who was a Maranos. Now Ranos is
an important term because you have Conversos and Maranos and
during the infamous years of the Spanish Inquisition, when when
the whole Iberic Peninsula was being pairs of the Arab

(24:37):
and Jewish influences, and then we know what happened later
because then you had in Actuariol the founding of the
Jesuits and all that. But the Maranos were the ones
who were crypto Jews who converted but were keeping on
the Jewish practices in secret. But instead the Conversos were

(24:57):
genuine converts, so they state Catholics.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
And the.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Player had written a book in which he had pointed
out that they needed to go back to Israel. So
this had the very foundation, but then it was embraced
by the Puritan world. And the Puritan world, the one
that we saw then coming with the Mayflower here to

(25:24):
the United States of America, didn't really embrace, you know, Judaism,
embrace the idea that by bringing the Jews back to
Israel they could finally have the return of Jesus and
then the times. This is the very basis of Christian
Zionism here. So I in my book I explained all

(25:50):
the various let's say, misunderstandings that that that have been
present to this day, because then Zionist eventually will be
formalized with this name at the end of the nineteenth century,
and with the Door Earthsel they will create a movement

(26:13):
at that time. Also, like I explained in my book,
Judaism was very different. There was the secularized Jews who
were a product of the Sabbatian Frankist and the Illuminati
and Freemasonry who through the lodgest of the Asiatic Brethren
and then later on also Bnbrate which is also a

(26:33):
very important element in a story. And then of course
you have to understand that there was a rejection of
the Jews within Fremasonry and the Illuminati initially, so the
Jews have to kind of break through that blockage, okay,
And they did the first time. They did it with
this group called the Asiatic Bredren, and the Asiatic Brethren

(26:58):
became the also the link to Alistair Crowley, because the
Siatic Breden is mentioned in the foundation documents of the OTO,
and it becomes and the frater lusis, so the Asiatic
Breadren becomes that link also to from maxtele On to

(27:21):
Madame Blavatski, the foundation of the also fIF frough Alistair
Crowley and the OTO that then Crawley took over. Basically
they did. In my book I explained how the Sabbati
and Francis the sexual magic was the basis for all
the sexual magic of the of all the Accultists that

(27:43):
came later on, from Pascal Beverly Randolph to Crawley, all
the way to the Satanism of Anton Levi known as
Anton Levy, Anton Lavay, who was himself a direct descendance
of Frankists, so you see, and he said that the

(28:05):
perfect Jew is a Nazi demon Jew, you know. So
these are controversial. You know, you understand these are very
controversial subjects for people of Jewish faith. When you are
stating in a book that I mean the Transfer Agreement,
I don't know if you are familiar with the Transfer Agreement.

(28:28):
By the Transfer Agreement, it took it took until the
early nineteen eighties for the Jews to be able to
actually discuss it, nineteen eighties, because before then they could hardly.
It was Edwin Black who published a book in nineteen
eighty four, and he brought all the receipts of the evidence,

(28:54):
and then you know, then you see one, you see
one thing. You see the basis the creation of Israel
has nothing to do with the Jewish religion. But it's
a compromise because, like I said, the Lanist movement had
to put together the secularized Jew, the Orthodox Jew, the Sephardi,

(29:18):
the Ashkanzi, the mean, you know, all the various Jewish
people who had at that point scattered with the diaspora
through the world, but also started to act differently. I
mean a guy like trans Kafka, who you know, an
excellent writer, a secularized Jew who was viewing the cynic

(29:40):
Jews as primitive and as a tribe of Africans. He said,
So imagine what kind of racism there was between Jews.
And that is really when the symbol of the scene
of a day. Yeah, I might have done an error

(30:07):
in brookeeting of my Italian channel rather than in the
English channels, say.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
That Gable here in the chat. It seems like that
whenever the Jewish people or Israel, when they get rejected
like what you're talking about, it always follows up with
a war. We always have, like a big war that

(30:33):
kind of happens, you know, whenever they get you know,
kind of rejected. That's like, oh, well, when we're when
our backs are against the wall. It's also kind of
like the United States. Right when the United States is
really down, we're in like a semi type of depression.
The easiest way to get us out of that depression
is to go to war because war equals money, right,

(30:54):
money for the bankers. And it also seems like that
whenever people start waking up to the amount of Israel
Jewish influence on other types of countries and starts to
push them out, then it's wartime.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah. But my book focuses mostly eventually on the creation
of the banking cartel by the Sabbatian Franks on the
triumphant entrance of Jacobin Frankfurt, where of course he was
embraced by people like the Rothschild and many other banking

(31:31):
families that since then have made an extreme you know,
they have made basically the success of their banking system.
So my book doesn't really go into the detail of
it explains, though it explains how Israel was called the

(31:53):
Sabbatian State by my late friend Berry Camish, who used
to be also a soldier within the IDF and who
lived in Israel for many years. It has direct testimonies
from Jewish sources who claim that the religion was corrupt
by these people who no longer believe in their mosaic
laws but started to create alternatives, which nowadays we find

(32:18):
in that muscosity, which is called reform Judaism, which is
prevalent in all it's the biggest denomination here in the
United States of America. And then you have the Reconstructionist
which are similar in a way of their approach, but
originate from the Conservatives. So there is not a single

(32:40):
denomination of Judaism that has been in a way not
manipulated in fact, that Abbi Antherman used to say that
even the definition Orthodox shouldn't exist because it was a construct,
a construct which led also to a react action Acidism.

(33:02):
The acidic Jews were born out of a reaction against
the Sabbatian Frankists within their community in Eastern Europe, of
the Ashkenazim in particular. So this reaction created after you know,
the people we see today with their hair funny hair,
and their thing and their very much they claimed Orthodoxy.

(33:25):
But we see then, for example, some of the most
progressive Vandavian forces in Judanism today, like this transgender rabbi
who I've mentioned today in an article publishing a Gammy
dot Com. Abistein was actually born in an Orthodox family

(33:46):
and then after becoming a rabbi in twenty twelve graduating,
went on to become a transgender and now is a
non denomination or Jew which you see in the in
this photo is actually involved with the Judaism under the

(34:06):
disguise of a woman. She is a man. For me,
if you're born a man, you are a man. That's it.
I'm not tolerating of this kind of rubbish. Okay, let
me be very clear, I'm a real conservative, not this.
These people demonstrated that nowadays, even if you're born within
the realms of conservative Judaism, you are still you know,

(34:29):
like this guy completely confused. I mean, this guy is
confused because he's supporting a guy who is viciously anti
semi to make a mockery of Judaism aside from the
fact that you support or not Israel. That's another thing
I'm talking about Soramandani with his mockery. He dressed up

(34:50):
and he made a rap to actually mock the Jews
that in the Jewish paid so to support the Soorramandani
or the people today who are about to go and vote,
who have voted in the last few days because you
have of course maybe they already started voting in New
York and it's of course culminating with the possible election

(35:15):
of the Ramandhani. Well, I mean, it is a completely
contradicting the Jewish faith. But at the same time, there
is actually a connection, especially for those who have read
my book Volume ten of My Confessions, which is the
Islamic Freemasonry and the Secret Society is behind the tonal

(35:38):
conflict in the Middle East. I actually dedicated the whole
chapter at the end of this book to the Sabbatian
Frankist and the infamous Protocols of the Elders of Zai,
so to explain how things worked out when it comes
down to the Protocols of Zai, and we know that

(36:00):
they were they came out of Russia. And in fact
it is actually another coincidence at Jago Frank, after he
made this deal with the Catholic world, actually in secret,
went to make another deal with the Orthodox and with
the bizarre at the time, I think it was probably

(36:22):
capturing the Great I'm not sure if she was the
Arena of Russia. But what happened was that he was
eventually arrested by the Catholic Inquisition and he was then
liberated by their actions after thirteen years. And I explained
in my book how he was kept for a period

(36:44):
of time in the monastery of chest Kova where you
have the Black Mary, which he then connected to the
worship of the female Hikina, and this of course became
becomes then the way that that he then addresses as
his successor his daughter ive Frank, who will become the

(37:06):
first female Messiah, and that she Kina will then be
incarnated later on by Gillen Maxwell, because Robert Maxwell was
himself a guy whose name Robert Maxwell is actually a
construct of pure fiction. He was He's a hawk. He's
a guy who comes from the Sabbatian Frankist say Arias,

(37:31):
and his real name brings us to to the heart
of the Sabbatian Frankister. His name was in fact Jan
Ludwig him and being Jamine Hawk, and his name was
inspired by his own spymaster, who was Maxwell Knight.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
So he's had very interesting revelations. Also in my book,
I show an image of a young Robert Maxwell who
wanted to be like who wanted to be like a
Jacob Frank. He really even put the hat on and
the mustache like he literally wanted to be like Jacko Frank.

(38:17):
Let me see if I can watch on the left
Robert Maxwell, father of Gillan Maxwell, on the right Jacko Frank.
They look similar.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, yeah, I do.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Okay, So it is very much interesting information in this
book that I think a lot of people will appreciate.
In regards to Robert Maxwell, he was connected to the
future Mega group, which started in the early nineties with

(38:53):
the Lexo Excellent and with a number of Jewish people
who are now the ones the main finances of Eye Act.
So APAC today is very much discussed by people, but
not many people discuss who is behind the IPAC. You know,
It's like there is always a manipulation, a part of

(39:15):
manipulation and the Mega Group. Did you ever studied the
Mega Group and the people within the Mega Group? Because
the very interesting number of people who are involved with
this Mega Group, from Steven Spielberg to others. So it's
I mean, I in my book I explained how you had,

(39:37):
of course various intelligence agencies, like you know, both domestic
US and foreigns. Specifically it is really Mozart, but also
am I six. All these these these intelligence operatives were
working with lex we Exner, who had set up for
him the cameras and the whole big mansion in New York.

(39:58):
But then they won't. It's almost like they picked up,
you know, like Donald Barr. People think, you know, the
father of William Barr is a Christian, is a Catholic. No,
he converted like the Sabbatian Frankist at the late age.
He was Jewish Sabbatian Frankis descent, and he facilitated the

(40:25):
entrance into the works of the sect, the present works
of the sect. You see, when the Sabbatian Frankist started
to be, let's say, under the spotlight of the rabbinical community,
they very cleverly went out of the spotlight. In fact,

(40:46):
the last known formal official document was made here in
the United States, I think at the end of the
nineteenth century, and it's the last document we know about.
Shon Sholem also talks about it. But then we have
other testimonies later on of the presence of the Sabbatian

(41:06):
frank Is still within the Jewish community, and of a
belief that was transmitted from father to son. They believer
that there had been a trinity with Shabbataisa Bara Cruzo,
who was another guy who has a minor role, but
was still for a period of time the leader of
this sect before the Jacko Frank came around. And then

(41:30):
you have if Frank, who was the daughter. And so
this is basically what brings us to then the Mega Group.
Because the Mega Group is also very close to the
financial lodge of the bny Breath and the Bnye Bread

(41:53):
is this kind of quasi paramasonic. It was like at
the beginning of the nineteenth century in Germany, Aside from
the Siatic Bredren, the Jews in Frankfurt couldn't really join
the mainstream lodgers the Lodge of the Free Globes and
the Prussian lodgers the Grand Lodge. They didn't let the

(42:15):
Jews inside their lodges. Okay, they had been a prohibition.
So there had been this group. Very influential was the
Asiatic Brethren for a period of time, and it was
still ongoing. But then there were Jews who didn't want
to necessarily join the Siatic Bredren because they didn't believe
in the Sabbatian Frankist teachings that were filtered for the

(42:37):
Siatic bread and so they wanted to joint some form
of freemason that was more regular. They couldn't manage. Eventually
they will manage in Germany and they will actually go
directly under the obedience of the United Geology of England.
In the meantime, a group of German immigrants came to
New York, and in New York they founded the Library

(43:01):
and the nigh Breath. Real meaning, like I explained in
my book, is Sabbati is my illumination. So and today
the neighbrid is the biggest paternal organization. They have had
for decades lodges in places like Hollywood where they control
the whole production of all and every film, and they

(43:22):
have been the Sabbathian Frankist influence within Juday is also
in regards to Hollywood. The Mega Group which was created
in the Study Group that was an informal group today
officially no longer in existence, around fifty members. And amongst
these fifty members, you had Charles Bromford, who is this

(43:47):
very important member of the Canadian Jewish Bronfan family, very influential.
Then you had Mark Tischer, who was who died in
two and five, was this American business and philanthropy is
very close to both Eisnower and Jeorge W. Bush. Then

(44:10):
you had Michael Steinhardt, who was this billionaire edge fan
guy who was called by Forbes the greatest trader I
think of all time or something. He had a network
for one point one billion, and one one billion was
a lot of money. And then you and he was

(44:33):
connected to the Wharton Schools of the University of Pennsylvania,
which is another place important for them. Then you had
the he had learned at Abramson, who was this guy
very much connected with the Big Farmer, and he became

(44:57):
let's say between the middle of this seventies too, I
think around nineteen ninety six he controlled American health Care.
These are the people I'm giving you that frankis too,
are certified members of the Mega Group headed by Wexner
and that Jeffrey Epstein was working for. So I'm telling

(45:19):
your name by name here, so write them down, put them.
And then you had Harvey Meyerhoff, who is who was
the chairman of the John Hopkins Hospital. So and he

(45:40):
was also the founding chairman of the United States Solo
Coast Memorial Museum.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Another guy, what are coincidenceal? What are coincidence?

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Let's not forget that the the Anti Defamation League was
founded by the Beni Bry So, you know, it's it's
very risky to then put into discussion these figures here
we're going to the Mega Group. But the Mega Group

(46:10):
was like was like the Inner Circle. It became and
it still is to some extent because it's still in
existence regardless of what they say. And they are the core,
you know, they are like the Supreme Council of the
nibrand so the nigh Bred very important organization up until

(46:35):
the nineteen parties. They were more inclined to have a
more Masonic regalia approach, you know, with all the fancy regalia, aprons, medallions,
things and all that, and they had I think a

(46:55):
number of degrees that was reduced. I think then at
one point from C to I don't know for or something,
they kind of frank the system because they wanted to
be more practical. They then let talks of women in.
There were various changes that were done within the NHBRID,
BUTNBRID became a mega organization. A massive organization is the

(47:22):
biggest paternal organization in the Jewish War. While the Mega
Group was like the Illuminati of the Freemasons of the
seventy eighteenth century when Adam Vaschien founded the Illuminati as
an elite group of Freemasons, well, the Mega Group founded
itself a little bit like the ILLUMINAI. So they were

(47:44):
the Illuminati of the Jewish War. They are the Illuminati
of the Jewish War. And that really what built, what
built Jeffrey Epstein from scratch we have.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Was Jeffrey Epstein already a part of this group before
he met Juselene Maxwell, because you just mentioned that Maxwell, Okay.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
The father of Gilaine was part of this group. So
he met through Robert Maxwell, gilln Maxwell, the daughter.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Okay, so he met Robert Maxwell, her father before he
met her. So he already he was already a part
of this group, is what I'm trying.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Absolutely, he was. I mean, he was recluited back in
the first half of the nineteen seventies because of his
family background. His family background that came from two parents
who were the Stoffolkski I think the mother was Stoffalsky
and the father was Epstein, and both of them came

(48:53):
from that area of eastern Europe where the Sabbati and
Francis come from. And because you see so Donald Barre.
Donald Barre was at the time a guy who had
had an experience already with the OSS. He had been
an officer of the USS. He then became a schoolmaster

(49:13):
at the Dalton School, and he gave the possibility to
to Epstein to have a job as a Matt science
Matt and science teacher without even having graduated. I mean,
that is incredible in itself. You know, people are like

(49:34):
that is really what brings us back to the fact
that journalists can't grasp this whole thing because they can't
grasp the Sabbatian Frankists. When I explain today's player is
in the Sabbati and Frankish war was the connection with
the banking system, I actually cite the research that was

(49:56):
conducted also by my fellow journalist Ferruco Pinotti, who I
co wrote a book with pat Economa Soon and one
of the heads today is this guy here, John Elkin,
who was guested at the Oval office in May with

(50:17):
the Juventus football team, is the owner of Stelantis, Chrysler,
Ferrari Fiat. Every single guy you have here in America
almost not almost, but a lot of it Jeep and
then goes on and on the list, and he is
the guy who came through a marriage. The mother was

(50:41):
of this gentleman here, Janielly, Jane Eelli, was one of
the most He wasn't a Jew. He was actually one
of the kings of Italian capitalism. He had conducted himself
as the boss of the fat which was a very
important car company at the time. And when the Elkans

(51:08):
married into the Nielli family, then I explained here, some
very mysterious things happened, and so suddenly the sons, the
son of this guy of Jannielli, who was supposed to
be his heir, died in a very mysterious circumstances. He
was frownt off a bridge. And then still to this
day the Elcans are in a controversial dispute over the inheritance,

(51:36):
which the inheritance includes the major role into the holding
company of Stelantis. That the Elkans are a race, a lineage,
a dynasty, as when when Trump introduced him in May,

(51:58):
he said, He's the heir of a very important dynasty.
The dynasty is the Elkans that comes all the way
from Frankfort and Worms and they are some of the
most powerful rabbis of the Sabbatian Frankists ever to exist.
And they go back, of course to Frankfort, because Frankfort,

(52:19):
the Frankfort is the place where Jacko Frank like I said,
came into before going to Oftenbach and Main, and he
came received like a king. The Rochards literally received them
as a king. I mean, the guy was recognized as
the Messiah at that point. So not all Jews recognized them,

(52:42):
but those who recognized them became involved in the Sabbatian Frankists,
which is a very particular kind of heresy because and
I demonstrate, like, for example, I go through all the
names of the Black Book of Jeffrey Epps, and one
of the important names in FS and Black Book is
this gentleman here nobody knows about. And this guy here

(53:05):
is Tiberto with Brandolini Dad, which then connects the Elkin
family and the Neielly family to the Black nobility, which
was and there is various names of the Black nobility
in the Black Books of Jeffrey Epstein, in the two
Black Books, and Brandolini Dad, who is related to the

(53:27):
Elk and Annielli was also in charge of Stelantis until
ten years ago, so they're all connected here, and he
was him and very and many others of the Black
nobility were in Jeffrey Epson Black Book, and I cite
each one here in this book, and nobody does that

(53:48):
in any other book I heard about Jeffrey Epstein around
you know, they discuss Jeffrey Epton, but then they don't
go through the Black Book and see what this protagonist.
I went through every single name, and this is I
think very important so I leave it to you now
to any question you might have, because wise I take

(54:08):
your questions out.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
No, that's really good that you do that, that you
cite all of your resources, and there too many people
don't do that.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
They just you know, No, it's very important because like
explain your erea. You see, if you don't cite there
is the sources and the credible sources that I have
cited here, they will not take you seriously. I mean
when I am talking about I'm gonna show you here
one of the leading Sabati Frankis of the last hundred years,
and you're gonna and you're gonna inevitably tell me who

(54:42):
is this guy? And you're gonna tell you know, I
want to show you this guy because once I explain
you who is you would be shocked and the and
the influence he had in your government here in America.
And you say, who is this guy? Oh, I don't

(55:02):
know this guy. I never heard of this guy. I
never saw this guy. But David drop Fell called him
the number one number one economists and the number one
guy who did the money in the world. So I
mean he had the respect of David Roplemi. See if
I can find it.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
That's the thing. The people that are in the world,
don't you don't know who they are?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Yeah, and this is bra This is really what I
wanted to do with this book. And that's why this book,
I think is gaining a lot of interest from even
from a colleagues in the journalist Ward who told me
it was really refreshing to see your take on depthsent case,
because nobody had gone into the ancestry of Jeffrey Epstein,

(55:48):
of Will and Maxwell, of all the other protagonists around him,
the people in the Black Book, and then finally revealing
these connections. And so this guy, which I assured you,
is the French American investment banker Andre buenad Matthier. Watch
do you know who this guy is?

Speaker 1 (56:10):
No clue?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Advisor to Lyndon Johnson, dear friend and advisor to Kennedy,
friend of Jacqueline on Assis, and of course one of
the people who had was one phone call away from
the White House in the most critical moments of recent history.
And if you go on his actually if we go

(56:33):
on his Wikipedia, you will find a citation by David
Rockfers saying what he thought about that guy. You'll be
like it's David rock Fathers saying this guy is actually
not him, this is the guy in charge. Wow. So
like you said, and like another very infamous Sabbatian, Frank

(56:56):
is Is Israeli Prime Minister of Queen Victoria once said,
the people who ruled the world are very different from
the ones now that you are commonly seeing in the spotlight.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
But those are the fake players. Those are the fake
people on the Bill Gates's and.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Big Gates different Bigates actually, I explained here in this book,
apart from he might have been even the legitimate son
of David drop Fell, but he is connected to these
people because of what he did in his career. In fact,
there is a whole page here about when he brought
John and Lapo Elkham to his headquarters. And he is

(57:38):
also a guy who has is a major stockholed in Detlantis.
See So, and you know John Elkhan is in the
advisory board of Meta. He controls what you say or
you don't say in Facebook.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Yeah, those of people you don't know who they are,
because that's the easiest way to manipulate people and manipulate
the world is if you don't know who they are,
because then if you know who they are, you start
pointing fingers at them, Leo, and they don't want fingers
pointed at them. They want to pointed out the people
that you can you know, point fingers at you know,
like Bill Gates. Bill Gates, he's the one that wants

(58:23):
to do all this stuff. No, it's not. There's several
people in behind door.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
I mean it's part of the club, but you know
it's not the head of the club. Definitely. When you know,
there is many in this history which I have explained
the FRU, you know, I mean, you have many rabbis
and many schools affought, many people who are questionable, other

(58:54):
who have tried to stop this, even within Judaism. It's
actually was. It was important for me to make a
whole chapter regarding this information regarding the Kazarians. The Kazarians
never existed because they existed, yes, as a race who
embraced Judaism. But if I embrace Judaism, that doesn't make

(59:15):
me a Jew. The DNA doesn't change in me. So
there is a lot of confusion between the actual DNA,
which is Sephardic Ashkenazi, yeahmy Ethiopian, which is actually Jewish
b NA and the fact that this group of people,
the Kazari, embraced the Jewish faith. And I had to

(59:38):
clear that up because there was a lot of confusion,
you know, in the Internet about the Kazarians. The Kazarians. Yeah,
sorry to tell you, but the Kazarians, first of all,
are not related. DNA wise with the Ashkenazi has been proven,
and I'm relating to the most thebor sources for modern

(01:00:03):
DNA research, which were not present maybe fifty years or
one hundred years ago, which led to this. Even within
the Jewish War, there were rabbis who said they might
have been a connection because they didn't have the modern
technology to prove otherwise. But I wanted to prove otherwise
because in this book, I show that you can't blame,

(01:00:25):
for example, a single group of people like the Ashkenazis.
People blame them for all the ills of the world.
But in my story I showed that at one point
they were the first rabbis who oppose the Sabbatian Frankists,
the Sabethans in particular, from the very time they started
to rise in Stesaloniki, there was actually a big war

(01:00:48):
wage against them. There was a because the Holy Book
of the Sabatan Frankists is written by a rabbi. Rabbi
he shoots. This rabbi known as the Rabbi of the
Free Community. To this day, still the rabbinical community knows
about the controversy. You can see it all over the internet,

(01:01:09):
but you cannot question and confirm he was the author
of the main Sabbatian Francis text because it will ruin
the reputation of the rabbis. You see, the rabbis are
very protective, so you have to go through very much
detailed studies. But if you see rabbis and he got

(01:01:32):
in a in a very big controversy with the rabbis
from the Ashkenazi community, who already at the time even
before him, had questioned the Sabbatians. I mean question means
that they issued the rabbinical course and they started to
because when you're talking about Shabbati and Frankis practices, you're

(01:01:55):
talking to practices. They were completely contrary to every Jewish law,
eating pork on holidays, orgies, borrowing your wife, swapping wives,
making a ritual where each wife was a different letter
of the Jewish alphabet, so they could do some cabalistic

(01:02:15):
ritual all this happened, and of course it became a
big problem for the Jewish community, so they tried to
stop it. When they could. They got in contact with
the Christian authorities also and got them arrested. Some of
these people were arrested, but in the end I guess

(01:02:39):
that they were not. I mean, I guess that when
you have an heresy that takes place and somehow is successful.
I mean, we talked about Donald Barr, and like I said,

(01:03:00):
Donald bar would be the guy who will give his
first job to Jeffrey Epstein, who introduce him to that
to the sect. Like you said, you said, when did
Jeffrey EPs And get introduced in the every seventies by
Donald bar? Donald Barr will introduce them to the whole
lot of people surrounding this sect. And Donald Bar had converted.

(01:03:26):
He was from a Jewish family with roots ailed from
the city of Berdikshiev, a major center of acidic Judaism
in the nineteenth century. But every center of acidic Judaism
in the nineteenth century had been infiltrated by the sad Frankist.
So what did the Donald Bar do When he was
an adult? He converted to the Catholic faith, and William

(01:03:50):
Barr was brought up in the Catholic Faith, not in
the Jewish faith. And nobody even knows the real name
of Donald Bar.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Do you know the real name of Donald Bar?

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Your name of Donald Bart has never I mean, the
interesting thing with Donald Bart is that because of intelligence
roots in the OSSes, he was able to really escape
any trace of of I mean, nobody knows it. We know,

(01:04:25):
of course that he was Jewish, we know that he
has at and Frankis truths, but we don't really It's
the only person that I couldn't find out if there
is you know, the real name, the real surname, because
the name was probably Donald, but the real name was
a little bit more difficult to find out. And so

(01:04:47):
this also demonstrate I mean, his full name was Donald
Eli Barr. He could have been Elie. We know though
at The modality in which he converted the later Age
to the Catholic Faith is a typical Sabbatian Frankist modality.

(01:05:09):
And also he wrote that infamous book Space Relations a
year before employing Epstein, in which he lays out all
the tenets of the Sabbatian franks faith. Have you ever
heard those Space Relations. No, go and check it out
on the Google Donald Bar Space Relations because this book

(01:05:30):
is very important for you to read if you want
to understand how insidious I mean. It's a slightly gothic
space opera, but it will give you an exact idea
of what Jeffrey ebste and Gill and Maxwell did in
the years after that is about. It is about basically

(01:05:52):
a society in space ruled by Aristo Spedo files and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
A slightly gonth interplanetary tale. Yes, yes, yeah, here it
is on Amazon.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yeah, and and and and and and Actually, like I
explained in my book, you have a character in particular
who is Lady Morgan, one of the protagonists, who indulges
in acts of sades, who must have been inspirational for
Gilli and Maxwell. We're talking about a science fiction novel,

(01:06:31):
but in reality it's like a camouflage science fiction novel
because they indulge in child sex, slavery, they indulge in
every day private deprived actor. That was later followed by
Jeffrey Epstein. And this is the father of the d
O J Head with Jeffrey Epstein allegedly took his life.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
What do you believe happened there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I mean, that's happy to believe. Of course, they whacked them.
I mean they got out, they got them out of
the way. Like I explained in my book, once you
are not usedful and you become a liability, you will
be brought down and you will be taken out. But
there is a particularity that I mean. Of course we

(01:07:19):
people will have to read the book for more insight.
But in regards to Willie Maxwell, there is a very
interesting insight on her role and also the people who
went to visit her this summer in the chapel of
the prison where she now resides, a very luxury prison
compared to where she was earlier. When I talk about

(01:07:44):
these characters, you have to understand that I explained in
my book at the end, when people finish this book,
that we realize that no matter who is in charge
in the White House, you can place Big Clinton Trump anybody,
they will be able to rule freely because these people

(01:08:05):
have the banking capital in the hands. And it's a
little bit like the Jesuits have one side of the
story with their control over the spiritual realm. Let's not
forget that the Sabatian FRANKI is spread from an area
in which the Jesuits took refuge when they were banned
from the Vatican in the same period. So there is

(01:08:30):
very strong connections between the Jesuits and the Sabbatian Frankists,
the actual schools and colleges that kept on because at
one point the Vatican suppressed the jesuita or the aside
from those areas, which are the areas where the Sabbati
and Frankis were so and of course under the protection

(01:08:52):
of the Empress of Russia, who is the same who
then freed the later on who freed the in the
same period, the Jacob fre ancle Win because the Catholics
had arrested him at one point. But the Orthodox were
freedom freedom, and the Orthodox were at the time working
with the Jesuits, because paradoxically, the Empress gave the protection

(01:09:15):
of the Orthodox Church to the Jesuits when they were
kicked out of the Vatican. So in my book I
explained the Subactian Francis compromise the whole of the Brahmic
faiths Christian, Jewish, Muslim. Of course they are neither Muslim

(01:09:35):
Jewish Christians. There might be something like somebody saying in
the child Sultimist of the left Hand. But that is
kind of a mad way of putting it, because when
you see the kind of heresy that they were proposing
is much more vast.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
What do you think of the people that have died
that were blowing the whistle and Jeffrey Epstein, There's been
several of them that died. There's been reports of over
two dozen people that's been linked to the ebstin cly associates, witnesses,
journalist Virginia giuffridgees Carolina Caroline Andreana, which testified and against

(01:10:24):
Well also died in twenty twenty three. Patrick, she died
in twenty seventeen, which was another outspoken person against.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
You're basically stating what I study in the introduction to
the book that it has been a bunch of suicides
between brackets since the beginning of this old saga. Let's
not forget it that Jeffrey Epstein, Jalub Brunell who provided
him with a thousand miners, and gille Maxy were the
only ones to be arrested and the only one to

(01:10:57):
survive is Gillem Maxwell. Because Gillim Maxwell compromise herself, of course,
to stay alive, but Jalob Brunell and Jeffrey Epsom where
of course suicide Virginia. Jeffrey stated some very important things

(01:11:17):
in the book that just came out the memoir, which
I also cite. The relevance of Virginia's testimony is mostly
because it is really about her own intimate and private
in the direct experience, which gives it an extraditional, you know, strength.

(01:11:43):
But there is some very important elements that of course
then need to be okay. She didn't want to give
the names in this book, in this memoir, even if
posthumous do not create legal troubles. But you can find
easily those names because she actually gave the testimony to
the FBI and the authorities, so you can go in

(01:12:07):
parallel and find, for example, the prime minister she's the
brutally raptor that she's talking about is held Barak, and
he was the one who visited Jeffy Epstein, even after
he was condemned many many times. He worked with Epstein

(01:12:29):
to even reach Russia in regards to eventually deposing Assad
in Syria. Imagine Jeffy Epstein was doing these kind of things,
but at the same time eld Barak brutally rapt brutally.
I mean she was like she said that it was
the worst thing that ever happened to her. What eld

(01:12:51):
Barak did and El Barakh, like I explained in my book,
is the typical product of label Zionists, which is in
itself a astrosity. You see, like I said, Zionism is
a compromise. That's why you have the You know, the
real symbol of the Jews is the Menorah, that is

(01:13:13):
the real symbol of Israel. But when they created this
symbol with the six star, which is the Seal of Salomon,
which was also present, you know, I mean, of course
in the Grimois and so on, that was a compromise,
which means one side of Israel meets the other side,

(01:13:33):
the side of the secular eyes. They intellectually advance the
ones that extracted Karmax, who was one of them, like
most is mended Son. I mean that part of the
Jewish people, like I stated earlier, so like Frank, the

(01:13:55):
other part as some kind of primitives. So they had
to be a compromise in order to bring this this
Jews to believe they could then go back to Israel.
They had tried to convince them for a long time,

(01:14:17):
and I tell you, up tier the early thirties in Germany,
nobody wanted to go to Israel. It was when the
transfer agreement came along. And when eventually some people refused
the transfer agreement, refused to go because they were Jews.

(01:14:37):
The Jews were persecuted in a way with the support
of the Sabbathi and Francis, with the programs in Russia.
Then the Holocaust the show. But up until nineteen thirty three,
even when Adolf Fitter got elected, the Big Breed did

(01:14:59):
nothing to stop. And in the end there was the
Transfer Agreement. And the transfer agreement was that known also
as the Havara Agreement in Hebrew, is that very controversial
agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist organizations signed in August

(01:15:22):
nineteen thirty three, which was finalized by the Zionist Federation
of Germany the Anglo Palestine Bank, which is an israel
bank controlled by the Sabbatian Francists that can be traced
to Erzel visionary track, their students, staff and the actual

(01:15:50):
economic authorities of Nazi Germany. And basically it made the
migration possible for those sixty thousand German Jews who accepted
all this and decided to go back to Paris and
the other ones were sent to concentration camps. They were

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sent to the worst possible ending ever, the biggest crime
in humanity, the show up that was devised by the
Sabbati and frank Is together with the Nazis. Let's not
forget the other feature was himself perfiat.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Jue's the little detail that the whole thing be like,
oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Well, it's shocking when you know that. For example, Rabbi
Antherman stated that the other feature was the product of
a Sabbatian frank Is ritual in eighteen eighty eight. And
I repeat that might be questionable because people might say,
I don't have the evidence for it, but they did
the actual transfer agreement. There is plenty of evidence. And

(01:17:03):
it was criticized by the revision Zionists, of course, who
are the guys who nowadays revision is Zionism is like
the liquid party. But when even when you when you
see okay, you have the ball for decoration, you have
the Jews push to go back to Israel in one

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way or another. Because when the same Jews will try
to come to America, they will be sent back. When
they tried to enter England at that point they would
be sent back. They couldn't go anywhere. They want to
force them towards recognizing Israel. It was a plan, like
I said earlier, started a few hundred years earlier with

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the Puritans. So today we have the state of Israel,
and it's a reality. It's a reality that can't be
you know, you can't say from the River to the
CEO want all these guys to just remove them themselves
from where they are, because, first of all, both of

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the Jews as well as the indigenous Arabs who lived there,
they are both indigenous, and this is a thing that
both Arabs and Israeli need and Jews need to recognize
about each other. They're both indigenous of that. But at
the same time, of course, they were forced a lot

(01:18:33):
of Jews to go there, and now that they're there,
you can't kick them out of where. You're going to
send them to another planet. They have been already the
bigtims of so much manipulation. I mean, like Ryan is saying,
they have agreement. It is a fascinating document because shows

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that basically the Jews have made a deal with the
devil in order to not only survive, but to survive
with their finances intact. And not everybody accepted that, and
unfortunately the ones who didn't accept it ended up with
the Nazi Party not only confiscation, confiscating everything, but also

(01:19:20):
sending them to the concentration camps. So it's a very
sad situation because you know, you are at the heart
here of what is known as the Jewish question. But
the expression of this anti Semitic movement, if we followed

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from the eighteen eighties all the way to the nineteen thirties,
is a product of the Sabbatian Francist or people like
also behind the scenes, the Rothschilde and many other banking families.
The War of the Shift, the Shift gave the money
to Leon Tronsky to bring down the Tsars. This is history,
I mean, this is stated in history books. The chif

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Jacob chief gave his money to Leon Trotsky to bring
down the bizarre why because the Czar himself had then
been played also by the Sabbatian Frankists through the Martinist Order,

(01:20:27):
the Martinist Order and the Louis the Coen goes back
to a guy called Martinez the Passquali, who himself was
connected two the Maranos and the Sabbatians. Have you ever
heard of the Luider Coen, of the Martinists, of the Martinezists,

(01:20:51):
of Claude Saint Martin, Because these are the people who
are very influential. Also in the early stages of the
French Revolution, there was in the everly Sage of the
French Revustra, another guy was very influential, which I discussed
in my book, and that guy was Moses Dobruska. You
ever had the Moses Dobruske. Moses Dobruska had a few names.

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He was known as Junius Frey, Moses Dobruska, and many
other names. He ended up on the guillotine. But when
he was Moses Dobruske and then he became nobilitated, he
became one of the key members of Disiatic Brethren. And
he was the grandson of Rabbi of the Rabbi who

(01:21:38):
created the most holy book for the Sabbatians, Rabbi ever
shoots now. The mother of Moses Dobruska was the first
cousin of Jacob Frank. So you see, it's all within
the family. And the he's the guy who invented the

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left Pilow's Officio cell, which is then the basis for
all the various inspiration that you know launched the philosophis
so cell is fundamental for the French revolusia, but mostly
Dobruska is a fundamental He is an important guy that
nobody talks about in history. He was then nobilitated with

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the name Franz Thomas eder vroon Chanfeld and together with
the Efraim Joseph Ingfried ifreshed as a bit ill she held,
they became very much involved in the German Jewish mystic Enlightenment.
And like I said, the Asiatic Brethren was a very

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important order because the Asiatic Brethren, known as the Knights
of Saint John the Evangelist from Asia Europe, was the
first ordered that opened the first order of Freemasons and
obi Luminati, who let the Jews inside the lodges in

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a pivotal moment in time, because we're talking about the
eve of the French Russian here, and then they became
main protagonists of it. Now in the Asiatic Breden they
teached the principle of Sabbatian Francis. So I think that

(01:23:35):
that gives you an idea of the influence that they
had within the Masonic Order. They were very important with
the with their work because the founder of this order
was a guy called Hans Eric bon hesher Ung Coffin.

(01:23:56):
Now this guy was not a Jew, but he was
the head of an order of aristocrats guided by the Jesuits,
and because of his very powerful stand within the Catholic ward.
I mean, you're talking here about a top notch, let's say,

(01:24:17):
of the of the Illuminati. He died in seventeen ninety.
He was born in seventeen fifty, so he didn't live
that much. But in fact he died when he went
against Moses Dobruska and those other guys from the Sabbati
and Frankis. You know, he had a moment in which
he saw the situation maybe not very clear. He had

(01:24:41):
accepted their teachings up to a certain extent, and when
he didn't accept them, suddenly he's whacked. And at that
point though, I mean, but the other important figure that
was also in charge of the of the order was

(01:25:09):
this very important other aristocrat from from the Carbon carvon
hessen Castle, who was himself a Prince of of the
situation there in Prussia. And so these people what they
did was that they understood the magical powers that the

(01:25:34):
Sabbatian Francis had. That is another subject which I discussed
in my book of great importance, the fact that the
Sabbatian Francist had a lot of magical power. And in
fact the biggest disciples of the of the Sabbatian Frankist

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were the Illuminati, and one of the main people but
within the Sabathean Francist, known for his magical powers, was
this gentleman here you see with a compass and a square,
known as doctor Falk. He was the teacher of Manelis
Vandeburg and account Caiostel, and he had made the magical

(01:26:23):
ring of the Prince of Orean. So this guy here
was very powerful, and he was openly accused of being
a Sabbathean. He had to take refuge in London. And

(01:26:44):
then in London he will be protected by one of
the biggest family of bankers from Frankfort. So you see
that the fact that the banking system goes along with
these people. It's not only in the Rothschilde is always
like very much, and it brings always to Frankfurt, which

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was very much the epicenter of this Sabbatian Francis eris.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Well, I think you answered my most important question, which
was who's responsible for all this? And it's themselves. They're
doing it to themselves, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
And in fact, we go back to the answer that
Rozambard gave me once. The worst enemy of the Jews
is the jew But you have to understand that it's
not the Jewish race, but rather the theology and the
religion that subverted their own faith. If they respected those

(01:27:48):
mosaic laws, they might have they intact. But of course,
when you see today reform Judaism, liberal juda is, progressive
Judas and even conservative Juday is picking up their own
you know which laws to believe and which ones they
can disregard. That is not tolerated. In fact, Rabbi Anterman

(01:28:13):
said one thing which is important here. There should be
only one form of Judaism. The rest is an artificial construct.
So the moment in which you start saying what kind
of Juday is by you following it doesn't make any sense.
Either you follow it or you don't follow it. And

(01:28:35):
unfortunately today here in America, the people who for example
with I pack control and push. And also in Israel
is a Sabbatian state. But it's not me who states that,
but it's rather the late Berry Camish, who was my friend,
who wrote some excellent books in this regard, and who

(01:28:58):
was also a friend of Rabbi Antleman. And I think
that they were upp in Tea. And I really have this,
you know, even recently when this book came out, people
will say it to Leo, you have to be very
careful because you're not Jewish. They might say you're antisemit.
I mean, I have a very little Jewish blood in

(01:29:21):
my veins, but I mean you might very easily being
accused of antisemit. And that's why I made sure from
the very presentation of the book Homewards to stress the
fact that we are not criticizing a race here, but
we are critics. Like if you are a Catholic, I
can't criticize you because you are a Catholic. But if

(01:29:43):
you are a Catholic that believes not the bullshits put
by the Jesuit mafia and the Second Vardican Council, you
are just as bad. If the thing is that for
the Illuminati, we call them the Illuminati. We can call
them in many other ways, the mysteries that which commonly
referred to as the Illuminati. The first thing to control

(01:30:04):
is the religions, and this happened very easily also, like
I explained in volume teen, with the Islamic faith. You know,
from the moment Mohammed died, and you have of course
the Shire with the cousin Ali. And then from the
Shire you have the Fatimid, and then you have many others, Anychines,

(01:30:25):
and this and then, and you have basically different kinds
of ways of interpreting the same book. But why because
the vid At emperors the Latin said divide and conquer.
We divide and we conquer. We divide them and we

(01:30:47):
are able to control them better nowadays. Of course, what
is the intention of the Jesuits and the Vatican, since
both forensis to unite all the religion, to bring them together.
From the Buddhabi fraternity agreement to then sickly came to

(01:31:09):
father and two anty fertility to the old brothers too,
then going to the Sunni and then the Shia community
in Iraq in the middle of the pandemic, and then
the Buddhist the Jews and blah blah blah. And nowadays,
of course we have seen with the King Charles going
to the Vatican, the ultimate move after five hundred years

(01:31:30):
the main enemy that fermented even the birth of the Jesuits,
because that's what happened in the early sixteenth century when
the Jesuits were created. There was Martin Luther, then there
was the Church of England and they were in the
real enemies. Now the new Pope with the Jesuits behind him,

(01:31:55):
because even if he's an Augustinian, he's still working with
the Jesuits and for the Jesuits and with the Freemasons.
They're putting together this new plan of a one world religion,
which is also Sabbati and Frankis plan. So on one
side you have the banking Captel, which is alive and

(01:32:15):
kicking is controlling Hollywood, is controlling the Median Soon on
the other you have the Jesuits. But the word handy
in hand when you have Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Caazio
Cortez who is presented by the Jesuit America reviewing twos
and eighteen to the world before entering in a bombastic

(01:32:39):
way the political scene and possibly becoming, you know, the
future candidate for the Democratic Party. It's it's it's even
Zoraman Dani is the typical product Islam or communism. It
is a reality that can exist only here in the
West because if you bring a transgender in gas, he

(01:33:00):
will be killed after three minutes, maybe five, and then
front off the roof. There's no tolerance for this kind
of thing in the Middle East. But here in the
West you have this great mixed, you know, putting together
the global is, the extremes, the woke, and the Muslim.
I mean, I don't know, I mean the mix made

(01:33:22):
out of compromises that will not make any sense in logic.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
You know what. I think that that is, Leo. I
think the transgender ideology and the reason that it's blooming
is for transhumanism. So whenever it comes to the point
where we are, you know, merging man with machine, which
we're starting the city.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
That is something three books to volume six sixty six,
Volume seven, volume nine about the transgender and transhuman is
Ai cyber sayan for me is stuff which I already discussed.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Right, But I think that that is the goal is
like so whenever that stuff comes, you don't have you
don't have any of those laws anymore. People have already
accepted that the transgender ideology. So therefore there's nothing to
get around when it comes to transhumanism and the time to.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
Put I've always see my books anticipated that that was
the case, and in fact, then when this pope came along,
he introduced himself as the Pope for the AI revolution,
just as Pope ar Or the thirteenth was the Pope
for the Industrial revolution.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
So it makes sense. As I described in my books
volume seven was a volume six point sixty six and
volume nine that focuses puts on the quantum computers, that
it is important to realize that the future of religion
is also with the AI and robotics. So you see,

(01:35:00):
this is really what is happening. And in regards to
what Ryan said that the Mosaic laws are not unique,
they're not maybe original or unique, but respecting them will
have been more coherent. We are not discussing if they
are unique, or if they come from, like Gerald Nassi said,

(01:35:23):
the ancient Egypt and somebody who studies the Book of
the Beginnings knows this very well. Or if we want
to discuss the fact that the British Israelism is built
out of thin air with this kind of crap with
the Anglo Saxon race being the lost tribe of Israel,
or the Druids being in line with Judas. We are

(01:35:48):
here in front of a guy who is Jeffrey Epstein,
who is a product of all this and that's why
he got along with the British royal family like a
house on fire. And there is also it nowadays is
the decline of the Windsors themselves. So I hope that

(01:36:09):
we have cleared a lot of your questions. I'm glad
that we were able to have such an intelligent discussion today.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Yes, thank you very much, Leo, I really appreciate it.
You're always welcome on here to discuss whatever you would
like to discuss, and anybody on this channel there's no
censorship here. But can you let people know where to
find your website your website is and where they can
purchase your book.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
The leeds Gamy dot com website with the myriadst articles
has the link for my latest book and you can
also find my latest book, which is The Rice and
for Frankest Monster on Amazon dot com. And of course
in regards to Mandani, it's obvious that they are Jewish.

(01:37:04):
They are Sabbatian Francis though that we need to specify.
Don't for Ryan or other people researchers who are following
me now into the trap of anti Semitism, because one
thing is a race of people, and going against a
race mean being racist. Going against any ideology or a

(01:37:26):
religion or a sect in this case was given birth
to all the monstrosities of Zionism. That is much more
intelligent and would be respected by the Jews themselves when
they understand what kind of manipulation they've been subject to.
So thank you so much for having me on. God

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bless you a writer and take care.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Thank you very much, Leo. The links to Leo's website
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Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Bye bye,