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Raised By Giants Channel Members Episode "Media Echo Chambers" with Chris Mathieu.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today, I want to welcome back to the show writer Lee.
He is a filmmaker and host and producer of Raised
by Giants podcast. Writer, welcome back. How you doing doing great?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Chris? Thanks for having me on. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Been a little bit, guess man, been a little bit.
I know you're busy with some super secret projects. Looking
forward to that in the future. I thought we'd dive
into some recent rabbit holes and events that have been unfolding.
We haven't really touched on anything, like you said, in
a while, and I'd love to get your thoughts on

(00:36):
how we should be navigating some of the insanity out there.
It does seem to be mainly insanity, and it's hard
to keep up with a lot of the information just
because there's too much bad information out there. But how
have you been, brother, what you been into.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I've been really good. I'm working on a new documentary
right now, so hopefully that I'll start filming here at
the end of this month, hopefully, So that's going to
be a lot of fun. You know how it is
making a documentary. That's all that you can focus on,
that's all that you can do until it's done. Well,
that's how the I work. You know, when I'm working

(01:18):
on something like, I don't stop until it's done. That's
the way that I've always been with everything. Did you
see that New New York Times article about the Pentagon
creating fake UFO evidence? To know.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
That I have heard about the impending doom alien craft
interstellar craft that's on its way to destroy humanity. But
we'll get to that.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
How many times has that happen? That like the fifth
time now that we've gotten one of these in like
the past ten years. Lester Holt was talking about that,
like two years ago. There's a there's an asteroid.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Right outside of the right outside of Earth.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's a mother shop. We called it a mothership.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
We're getting to the season of psyops. Usually around October
we get these high impact events and news stories and
just theatrics that get people up in a frenzy in
a sense of fear or just confusion. It seems like

(02:28):
this is the time of year that's prime for the
misinformation surrounding events like.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
That Pentagon planeted the area fifty one UFO conspiracy theory
to high classified weapons program bombshell report. Some of the
most prevalent UFO conspiracy theories, including about aliens being housed
at Area fifty one in Nevada. We're fueled by the
Pentagon an attempt to provide cover for secret weapons programs.

(02:55):
According to the Bombshell Report, Now this is what I've
been saying.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
How long?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
How many times have I been on this show? Just
your show? In general? Chris and said that that exact
same thing. A review by the Department of Defense found
that in the nineteen eighties, an Air Force colonel visited
Nevada bar in near Area fifty one and gave the
owner a fabricated photo of flying saucers near the secret
government base. According to a review of the twenty twenty

(03:21):
four report by The Wall Street Journal, the incident renewed
local fever over UFOs and now retire colonel confessing the
Pentagon investigators that he was on an official mission to
spread disinformation and hide the true purpose of the site
where the government were testing the first ever stealth warplane,
the F one seventeen night Hawk. Now that's been what's

(03:46):
been going on from the very beginning, the very beginning
of all this. You can go back to Kenneth Arnold
in nineteen forty seven. It's the same thing, and he
was seeing some of the prototypes for the B fifty
two stealth bomber, and they let everyone believe that it
was a flying saucer and that was the cover up that.

(04:08):
And then when you get into the Paul Benewitz stuff.
We've talked about Paul Benowitz several times on here. But
the Pentagon found that the origin of some UFO conspiracy
theories came from the Department of Defense itself, the details
of which have were kept secret. In the last year's
Transparency report, Several of these theories dimmed from the agencies

(04:28):
need to keep its newly developed aircraft and weapons program
concealed near Area fifty one. The military reason that the
best way to keep its technology hidden from the Soviet
Union's prying eyes during the Cold War was to bury
it amid the trove of conspiracy theories surrounding Area fifty
one investigators and aliens. The incident is just one of

(04:52):
several where the government agencies allegedly played up American UFO
mythology for purpose of protecting its military assets. According to
the twenty twenty four report, other military attempts to obscure
secret programs with conspiracy theories. As doctor Sean Kirkpatrick, the
first director of the All Domain Resolution Office. The All

(05:15):
Domain and nominally Resolution Office, Sorry, I got to get
the title proper. It's a long ass title, was the
main task by the government to dissect countless UFO theories.
In twenty twenty two, as his office probed decades of documents, memos,
and messages across the Department of Defense, he found several
conspiracy theories that circled back to the Pentagon itself. In

(05:38):
one instance, Kirkpatrick's team found an Air Force hazing ritual
with briefings including them to be fake Yankee Blue and
unit that reported investigating an alien aircraft. The briefings came
with a direct order never to mention the details any

(06:00):
one with many of its targets the prank, never learning
it was all a ruse. According to interviews with Sean
Kirkpatrick team, Okay, so the Air Force were giving new
Air Force recruits fake photos of UFOs and fake reports
of UFOs, not telling them that it was fake and

(06:24):
telling them that it was top secret information and that
they couldn't discuss it with anyone. And then they didn't
stop doing this until twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
See, this is why it's so hard to take UFO
investigators seriously these days. The military applications that seemed to
coincide UFO major sightings, major events. It's always has to
do with something that they're trying to release, whether it's technology.

(06:59):
All this information that supposedly come out from high level
officials lately, it can never be proven, it can never
be backed up, And the longer it goes, the more
it just seems that they're trying to roll out new
types of tech and toys.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, non human intelligence is just AI. Bro right, that's
what one intelligence is, and is you know, just a
coincidence that we're coming up in this AI age and
AI is becoming very popular in the public. That's what
NHI is. And that term started to get thrown around

(07:42):
a lot, like right at the time AI started popping off. Okay,
so it's word magic. They were using word magic. They're
seeing one thing and they mean other thing, but the
public isn't aware of what those other things really are.
They just take it at face value. They're like, oh, well,

(08:04):
they say an ahi, they must mean aliens. They're saying
crash retrieval, they must mean that they've seen the craft
come down. Someone saw the craft on a radar. Oh,
they say extraterrestrial, Well, that means that they're from off

(08:24):
of the planet. They say aliens. That means that they're
from outer space. Right, Like, none of that means what
you think that. It actually means. There's multiple layers and
multiple meanings to all that. Whenever you get up in
and you go to a different country, right, I mean you, Chris,

(08:48):
if we picked up and we went to free we
could go to We can even go to Canada. We
can make it really easy. I mean, you can pick
up and we can go to Canada. We would have
to have a passport we're going into the country. But
whenever we're in Canada, we are legally going to be aliens.

(09:13):
We are going to be legal aliens, but we're going
to be aliens because we're foreign to that country. We
were not born there, we do not live there. We
are aliens there at the border, right, the fake alien invasion,
the fake alien invasion already happened. It already went down.

(09:38):
And that was the fake alien invasion was the border
being wide open, so all of the legal aliens could
flood in through the southern border.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Do you think it's some kind of psychological manipulation using
word association, or are is it a massive gas lighting
all the American people a combination of both. Are we
supposed to associate UFOs eventually with artificial intelligence? What do
you think is the deal here? What do you think

(10:12):
they're doing? Well?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
That would make a lot of sense, because now if
you go to a lot of the conferences, like that's
where the attention has turned to has turned in this
artificial intelligence type of lectures. Everyone is now talking about
artificial intelligence when they're involved in these UFO conferences. And

(10:39):
I found that really interesting. I was like, why are
we in here talking about AI all of a sudden?
It's almost like AI is the real aliens, Almost like
AI is the real extraterrestrials that everyone has been looking for. See.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
I haven't been to a UFO conference reason, but I
have noticed there are a bunch of spiritual guru Intergalactic
Federation type folks that are online using their AI to
quote unquote channel these entities, and they believe their AI
is in touch with some sort of cosmic intelligence or

(11:19):
is the cosmic intelligence itself. There's some very interesting relationships
that are being formed within that community with AI. So
I can see that as a a correlation there.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Well, when you think about it, like what do we
look at it like God? As we look at God
as like I mean, you don't have to be religious
to believe in God, but I would say most people
that believe in God believe in like God is like
all knowing. God is all knowing, all powerful, can do
what it wants, has all of the information that you

(11:56):
could possibly ever want. That has the knowledge of the universe. Well,
that's what AI is. Essentially. AI is a god of sorts.
It can generate whatever you want. It could generate a photo,
can generate a video. It has all the information. You

(12:19):
just ask it a question. Then you develop a relationship
with it. Yeah, like you got to talk sweet to it.
You got to send it at your prayers. AI, please
give me this information, because if you don't talk good
to it, Chris, then in twenty years it's going to
remember you. And if you were nasty and mean the AI,

(12:44):
it's going to remember that. Chris. You got to put
please at the end of every one of your sentences.
Can you please look up this information AIA you know
like And that's essentially what we're doing. We are giving
ai like prayers. That's normally what people would do for

(13:09):
like God. That would be like, okay, God, can you
please help me? Can you tell me what to do?
Can you help me out in this situation? Can you
show me the path? Can you show me the way?
Now it's chat GPT, What the what was the Can
you help me write this this essay? Can you tell

(13:33):
me about the Roman Empire? You know what I mean?
It's almost the exact same thing, and we're getting that
information in so automatic giving it to us. So it's like,
I don't I don't even know why. Google is probably
not going to exist for very much longer. You don't
even really need Google anymore. Like it's just going to
I mean, it's going to still exist, but people really

(13:55):
aren't going to use Google that much. It's going to
be more for like looking up like phone numbers and
finding a place to go or getting directions or stuff
like that. Because Chad GBT just sources everything from Google.
GROC sources everything from Google, So it's going to be
like Google, Like Google is not going to be the

(14:17):
place that people go to look up information anymore. And
that's another thing Chris, is that where is AI getting
this information from. It's getting it from the It's getting
there from official government sources. Okay, if you would have
asked Chad GBT or GROC I don't know, a month

(14:40):
ago about the Jeffrey Epstein files, it probably would have
given you a completely different answer than what it would
give you now. Now it's going to give you the
official government story that there is no Jeffrey Epstein file,
that there is no client list, because that's the official narrative. Okay,

(15:03):
But before the official narrative came out, you probably would
have gotten something different. So it's AI is essentially the
media is what it is is a It's a personal
media bot that's going to do nothing but dish out

(15:24):
media the accepted government narrative on everything. Yes, and that's
exactly what it's going to be there.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
But it does it in a very creepy way. It
almost acts as an emotional mirror. It feeds on your ego.
It learns so much about you that it becomes your
quote unquote friend, so that when it starts to feed
you the official narrative information, you believe that it's coming
from a place of love. Because this AI is my

(15:58):
truly my friend now and we've been sharing all of
our secrets. But it does seem that there's a push
for AI governance at very high levels. And I wonder
to what level of technology are we talking about with
the pallunteer software and beyond maybe even military industrial AI.

(16:21):
How long have they been utilizing this intelligence with operations,
some of the false flags, some of the things that
seem too big to be planned by humans. Could it
be that it's been around a lot longer than we think.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I would say as just like a standard rule that
anything that comes out to the public, the military and
the government has been doing for at least twenty years. Yeah,
that's just like a standard operating tool. I mean, it
might be longer, maybe less, but I think a good

(17:04):
standard to put on it in his at least twenty years.
So Paul Benowitz in nineteen seventy nine he was seeing
the UFOs outside of Kirkland Air Force Space, or what
he believed were UFOs. Now, what he actually was seeing
was a top secret government drone program. That's how they
were acting erratically around So the military flights would take

(17:28):
off and then they would deploy these drones out of
the back of the military plane and the drones would
then fly around the plane in erratic maneuvers, and Paul
thought that those were UFOs. Okay, how long was it
before we ever heard about that, the public ever knew

(17:49):
about drones? I would say probably early two thousands, like
right whenever we went to the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Okay,
so that's around twenty years that they've been working on
and utilizing these military drones. So they have been I

(18:15):
would say they would have to be using AI for
at least twenty years. And it's the same with with
with all of it, anything that comes out to the
public as a dual use scenario. I mean, the public
got the drones, they'd been using the drones for a
long time, the public finally kind of gets into the AI.

(18:36):
So I would say around I don't know, like twenty twenty, No,
not twenty twenty, two thousand and two, two thousand and
three is or maybe even the year of two thousand
is when like all this AI stuff started. I mean,
we would have to be completely stupid to believe that

(18:58):
Hollywood hasn't been using AI and that the media hasn't
been using AI. The last show that me, you and
Wan did together. I show clips of like these news
reporters on like that was created out of AI and

(19:19):
it looks super real. They're like, this is this is
Kathy Kathy Bates, Kathy Baits reporting live from the giant
flood disaster. And then she's standing in a bunch of water,
you know, and then there's like a giant freaking shark
that's like right beside her, and like it looks super real.

(19:42):
So if the goal is to replace like human beings
in these roles and in these jobs with like AI,
and that's the part of the magic too, is that
everything that you picture phone, every the thing that you see,

(20:03):
we don't know if that's real or not. But it's
been that way for a really long time. Everything that
we see on TV, we haven't really known if it's
real or not for a really long time.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Since you mentioned the Epstein Files earlier, I haven't talked
about it much here on the show. I saw you
did do a show with Ryan about it. But it's
pretty incredible to me what's unfolding. And I have no
idea where to stand as far as yes, I know

(20:36):
that there's so much theatrics when it comes to politics
and our media and everything that we're exposed to. Is
this supposed to be a signal that these people are
above the law and we do need to, indeed, just
shut the fuck up and be good little sheeple and

(20:57):
go to our jobs, watch our social media and let
life unfold as it is and don't pay attention to
this other shit. Is that the signal they're giving or
is something else happening that we don't understand. Are the
white hats and QAnon gonna come and make the arrests
under the guise of everything that's happening.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
That's what Alex Jones would have you believe. But I
think a lot of this stuff is just hopeless, and
I think a lot of it is uh, it is
put there on purpose. I mean, what they did with
the Epstein stuff is exactly what Jaeggar Hoover did with

(21:39):
the mob. That was essentially the exact same thing. Jaegar
Hoover famously, whenever he was ever asked about the mob,
he would say, oh, he would always downplay the mob.
Oh that's not the mob, the mob doesn't exist, blah
blah blah blah blah. You know, don't worry about the mob.
The mob isn't really a thing, and so it's like

(22:00):
almost a rinse and repeat, even though the public knew
that the freaking mob existed because they had encountered the
mob and knew about the mob and knew about organized
crime all over the place. Organized crime was huge back
in the day. I mean it still is, but it's
now shifted into corporations. Corporations are now the organized crime

(22:23):
of the world. But back in the day, it was like,
if you had a business in New York, and this
is how subtle that it could be. You could be
you just say you open up a business, right there
would be a guy outside of your business washing your
windows windows of your business. You'r a brand new business, okay.

(22:44):
And then the guys out there and he meets you
and he was like, yeah, I'm new to the area, bro,
but this is my block. I'm gonna be in here
washing your windows every single week, and you're gonna pay
me three hundred dollars your windows every week. Then the
owner of the business is gonna be like, bro, I

(23:05):
don't want you to wash You're doing a really shitty job.
I do not want you to wash my windows. I
do not need my windows washed every single week. Okay.
The guy rolls out. Next morning, the owner of the
business comes back and his windows are completely shattered, wrecked, broken,

(23:26):
calls the insurance company. Insurance company comes, fixes the windows.
He's one thousand dollars in the hole because he had
to get his windows prepaired for a shot. Okay. Next
day dude comes back in. He's washing the windows again.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
And then he was like, ah, this is my block.
I want to can continue washing the windows and he says, no,
get out of here. I got it, and he comes
this time. The owner comes out with a baseball bat
and he was like, get out, this is my property.
You come back here and try to wash windows again,
I'm going to break your legs. Dude leaves. Next morning,
comes back, windows are shattered again, broken, destroyed, calls the

(24:10):
insurance up again. Now the insurance is going to charge
him a premium because now his property is considered like
high risk. Now they're not going to ensure him anymore
because his place keeps getting broken into every week.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Ok. And then that's the way that organized crime worked
for like normal people back in the day, you know,
and Jaegger Hoover would constantly downplay the Mob, even though
the public would see the Mob and how they operate
and how organized crime operated on a daily basis. It's

(24:51):
almost the exact same scenario that we have right now
with the Epstein stuff. People knew that Epstein exis did.
People knew what Epstein was doing. People knew that Epstein
was most likely working for Masade or working for some
other intelligence agency. I mean, the cop that arrested him
was told that he was intelligence. Okay, so he was

(25:16):
that you know that he had that he was essentially
a blackmail operation. Then when you look back to like
Meyer Lanski and these people in Operation Midnight Climax operation
which was an mk Ultra program, that also was a
blackmail operation as well. So I'm sure the audience and
I'm sure you're familiar with Operation in Night Climax where

(25:38):
they would get these prostitutes and they come to sleep
with these people, they would drug them, they would but
they were also filming them through a two way mirror
so that they could like get that blackmail on these
political people or on these whoever they were. So it
was it doubled as an an information operation. And then

(26:02):
it also doubled as a blackmail operation. So they're trying
to see what information they can get out of these
high political people. But by being drugged and then sleeping
with these prostitutes, what information that they were going to
give the prostitutes if they were going to give them
any classified, top secret information, and then they were also

(26:22):
filming them with a video camera. I mean, this was
all Meyer Lansky, and then now that has like shifted
into you know, Mayor Lanskay is obviously dead. This was
like back in the fifties and sixties, right, and now
it's shifted into like Jeffrey Epstein, And we know what

(26:44):
Jeffrey Epstein was doing. There's two mini witnesses. Virginia Giffrey
was trafficked by Epstein. There's been several people that have
come out that have all been trafficked by Epstein. Two
royal people, to top political figures like Bill Gates, like

(27:05):
all these people. We know it. These people have been
saying it for years. We know that it's been happening.
And then for them to come out and say that
there is no client list, stop talking about Jeffrey Epstein,
just like Jaeger Hoover did back in the day with
the mob. Everyone seeing the mob, Everyone's seen the mob's activities,

(27:29):
everyone's seen organized crime. I'm not everyone, but a large
percentage of the population at least knew about organized crime
and the mob or had known someone that had been
involved with the mob or been involved in one of
these organized crime. And then they're like, oh, yeah, it
doesn't exist. Never mind, don't don't pay attention to what

(27:54):
your eyes are seeing or what your ears are hearing,
or what you're listening to. That doesn't matter. It doesn't exist.
It's a carbon copy of what has been done before.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Now, I had a little bit of hope for it
in the beginning because he said that he was going
to release the JFK files. He said he was going
to release the ARRFK files and Martin Luther King files.
We haven't seen the ladder of those two at all.
But he did release the JFK files. Some of it
was redacted, blah blah blah blah whatever, but at least
he said that he was going he did what he

(28:29):
said that he was going to do, right, So that
was a little bit of good faith in there. And
then he's talking about the Jeffrey Epstein files, I mean
he said that he basically said that they existed on
Lex Friedman when Lex Friedman before the election, had him
on his podcast and Lex was like, oh, hey, people
are really upset that the client list of Epstein has

(28:54):
never been revealed. And that was the first time that
I had heard Trump say that he was going to
look into it and that he was going to release
the files. That he had no problem with releasing the
Jeffrey Epstein files because he says that he never went
to the island. He said it like twice in there,
that he had never went to the island. And then
we get the bombshell from Elon Musk saying that the

(29:20):
reason that the Epstein files are not going to be
released is because Trump is in the files. Then we
had the LA riots, then we had the bombing of Iran,
and then everyone kind of forgot about that, and then
it was then the Epstein files came out. Yeah, well

(29:40):
it didn't come out. They said that there was nothing
to see here. They released the Jeffrey Epstein video, where
it's reported that at least one minute has been edited
out of the video done by Adobe Premiere. That's been
confirmed by several news sources that at least a minute.

(30:01):
Some new sources say the two minutes have been edited
out of the prison footage of Jeffrey Epstein. Hey, listen,
you can do a lot in a minute or two minutes. Yeah,
you can do a lot in that amount of time.
You could literally go in and switch somebody out, you
can go in and kill somebody. Whatever you want to do,

(30:24):
you can. You can do it in a minute now.
Pam Bondi says that the reason that there's a minute
missing from the footage is because every single night since
nineteen ninety nine is so apparently this prison has been
using an old surveillance system from nineteen ninety nine that

(30:51):
every day for almost twenty years, a minute is cut
out of the prison footage. That's convenient, Like, Chris bro Bro,
if you're operating with a like it's just in a pocket,

(31:12):
Like if you're operating with a microphone from nineteen ninety nine, bro,
Like and you're trying to do this show, Yeah, Like
what are you? What are you doing? Why are you
using a camera surveillance system from nineteen ninety nine? Like?

(31:32):
Would you not get that fixed? It? Would someone not
be reviewing this footage at some point and be like, hey, bro,
there there's a minute that's missing out of this footage
every single night for freaking twenty years, Like would you
not have that fixed within a day or or something

(31:56):
like imagine if we recorded this video and every single
time you did a show or a video a minute
was just randomly cut out of your video? Yeah, would
you not be like, oh, bro, we need to get
this fixed right away. We need to get a different
streaming platform. We need to switch from Zoom or something,

(32:17):
or pay them more money or figure this thing out.
No no, no, no, no, no, let's not do that. Let's just
let's just keep it, just keep it as fine.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
We'll keep it running for twenty only a prison where
crimes are often committed on a daily basis by criminals
that reside there, we don't need that minute all the time.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah. Man, it's so dumb, bro. It lacks common sense
in critical thinking, Like like, bro, like, you're not going
to do that.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
So the question becomes do we check out of politics altogether?
It doesn't seem like there is anything that we can
do at this point that's going to make a difference
at that level they have. It seems like they've just
shown their hand that they can do whatever the hell
they want, and they just want us to shut up

(33:10):
about it. When has anything ever changed from voting or
politics or any of our current systems. It's always been
the same ruling class, just portrayed and rebranded in different ways.
I just wonder what's the next step for humans?

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well, you're one run. It's just been everything has just
been rebranded and renamed. I mean, they're they're getting ready
to do that with TikTok. They're shutting down TikTok and
they're making TikTok. The new TikTok is going to be
a US based company, but it's only going to be

(33:53):
for the United States.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Interesting when are they doing this?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
So? Uh, they've been pushing back the TikTok ban until
the new app gets created. So the TikTok app is
only going to be for people inside of the United States,
So nobody from any other countries are going to be
able to get this new app, but everybody else is

(34:22):
still going to be using TikTok. Meanwhile, everybody inside of
the United States and wants you use TikTok is not
going to have to use this new app.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
See I've been kicked off tik talk three times since
it started, so I don't really put much into that.
I have my fourth account, which is still there for
some reason, but I don't spend much time on it,
and I haven't been paying attention to the politics behind it.
What is really going on with all that?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Well, it's a data information center, I mean. And the
weird thing is is that all of TikTok's data is
being stored in the United States, and has always been
stored in the United States. So it doesn't make any
sense this excuse for like that is China, right, this
China is collecting all of our data. China's not It

(35:14):
has never been stored in China, you're freaking idiots. Has
always been stored in the United States.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
So the only thing is that that I can think
of as like something like with these algorithms. But the
thing about the algorithms thing is the algorithm is like
really easy to do. It's like the most easy thing. Literally,
all you have to do is put up a bunch

(35:47):
of other related videos to the video that you just watch.
It's it's like these people, it's like these corporations and
these people forgot how to do things but if you
went back to their original YouTube, the original YouTube operated
exactly the way that TikTok has operated for the past

(36:08):
five years. You click on one video, you get a
whole list of related videos on the sidebar that is
immediately related to the video that you just watched. Now,
that changed somewhere around two thousand and fifteen area where

(36:30):
they started not doing that, but it seems like they
forgot how to do that. It's pretty freaking simple. You
just lump everything into the same category, and then whatever
related within the title and within the thumbnail and within
the description of the video is then placed in the

(36:51):
recommended bar on the right hand side. TikTok essentially took
that old model of YouTube and then advanced it with
like AI learning and like then you can get into
like these different Like you watch one video, then you're
going to get suggested videos that are also related to
that video that you just watched. That's how the for

(37:12):
you page works on TikTok. If you watch one thing,
you're gonna get recommended for ten other things that are
very similar, and then it switches whenever you watch something
that is not related. Right now, YouTube wasn't that advanced
back in the back in the day, but they just
expanded on the old YouTube algorithm is all that TikTok

(37:34):
did in this generation. So it has to be something
about the algorithm and something about the information that's on it.
But I find that it's really interesting that now it's
going to be just for the United States. I don't
know of any other app that's a big social media

(37:58):
app that is just for the United States. Facebook is worldwide,
x Twitter is worldwide, Instagram is worldwide, YouTube's worldwide. I
think Telegram is worldwide. Like everything else is like worldwide.

(38:19):
But it seems like the it seems like like what
they want to do is start bringing the borders in
right metaphorically and literally. They want to get everybody consolidated
back to their own country. So they're going to start

(38:44):
making TikTok for Canada, so then you get nothing but
Canada propaganda. They're doing TikTok for Mexico. They're going to
do a TikTok for the United States. They're going to
do a TikTok for Russia, a TikTok just for.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
This encountering the globalism pute. They're going for to merge
everything together, especially in America, merging Canada and Mexico as
one big country seemed to be in the background possibilities
coming out with this technocratic globalism ideologies. But you're saying

(39:20):
that this could possibly be the opposite, a little bit
of separation.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Well, I mean, how are you going to control all
those people worldwide? I mean they can barely control the
people within the United States. Like, yeah, it's going to
be ridiculously impossible, especially with the language barriers, to control
everybody in the world simultaneously. It's going to be way,

(39:49):
way bigger of a of a job to do it
worldwide than it is to do it for one individual country.
But I'm seeing this in like a way that by
separating all of the different social medias and only giving
people information from their country of origin so we wouldn't

(40:12):
be able to get information, it's kind of like what
Canada has already done. Canada has already done this, right,
and it seems like that that would be the best
way to do it. And then by doing that, then
you control the information that's coming and you control the
information that's going out. So essentially you have one hundred

(40:34):
percent complete control of every country's information because every country's
information is isolated to their own country. So then that's
a way that you can literally control everything because and
it's not like a because I'm not going to be
able to figure out what's going on in Russia. I

(40:55):
wouldn't be able to get on TikTok and look up
you know, Chinese or download red Note or whatever. Canada
already does that. Canada already bans things from other countries.
You can't access stuff from other countries. So that seems
to be the way to manipulate and control the public

(41:18):
in a way that I don't think people really understood
exactly what it was going to be. And this is
the first step of doing that in the United States
is to create TikTok, a US only information collection, data gathering,
pushing it out, letting people post stuff. Because then you

(41:38):
don't know what's going on. That's been my thing from
the very beginning is that we don't ever know what's
going on in other countries. All that we know that's
going on in other countries is from what the media
tells us, and it's always something back, a bombing, an assassination,
a political scion with political ruse or whatever. You know.

(42:03):
We don't know how these government structures work. We don't
know how the society runs over there, you know. I
mean Ryan Gable, our friend, he lives in Japan now,
and he's like, Bro, things are like so different over
here than any way that the United States. It's like
so much more efficient. Like even the trash is organized

(42:25):
over here. Even the homeless people are organized in Japan
and are kind and respectful. Yeah, and also it's like,
but you would never really know that unless you wink
to Japan. You're never really going to know what Russia
is like unless you go to Russia. You're not going

(42:45):
to know what Germany's like unless you go to Germany.
You're not going to know what the UK is like
unless you go to the UK, because they don't just
give us that type of information. So it's already kind
of been segregated for a really long time. And I
think that that was that wasn't what they were counting

(43:06):
on with the Internet to begin with. I don't think
that they were counting on the Worldwide Web in that
sense that we could figure out whatever it is that's
going on in freaking Papua New Guinea if we wanted
to know what was going on in Papua New Guinea,
you know what I mean. Yeah, And I think they're
going to try and reel that back. And then they're

(43:28):
going to try and reel it back and get a
clisse close knit hold in on all the information so
that they can control what goes in and what comes out.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
How much longer do you think until the algorithms AI
technology as a whole gets so far away from humans
that we have no idea how to control it anymore,
In a sense that we've already made code that codes
itself and then creates algorithms for itself and then creates
new codes that probably the original programmer has no idea

(44:02):
how the new code works that was created by the
artificial intelligence. And the longer this goes on, it makes
me wonder if we would ever be able to have
that baseline control over technology anymore, if it gets too
far ahead of us. What do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (44:22):
I mean, it's completely possible. I think a sort of
AI control grid, because again, the AI is going to
be our god, the AI is going to be our savior.
I mean, we've been talking about the whole AI thing
as like that is going to fix all of our problems.

(44:43):
I mean, that's the way the AI is already being
looked at like it's going to clean up the ocean,
is going to solve political issues, is going to solve homelessness,
is going to solve hunger, It's going to create world peace.
You know, that's what people would look at it as
like a Christ figure. That's what they think that Christ

(45:06):
would do. Right, if Christ came back, that's what you
would do. Not coming back for the rapture, but if
he was going to come back again. That's what people
believe that Christ like endless piece. He's going to fix
all this stuff with a magic wand fixed. Okay, so

(45:32):
we are already looking at AI as a god or
a demi god, and he has been looked at like
that for a really long time. Now could it get
to the point where it, you know, can take over?
I mean, if you look at like the movies that

(45:54):
have been coming out recently with these you know, these
artificial intelligent robot I don't think we're far off.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Probably not for public use, but how.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Long have they really had these freaking AI, non biological robots.
I would say for a pretty long freaking time. Now
I have no proof and I have no evidence of that.
But you're take into consideration how important it would be
to have one of these non biological robots that are

(46:34):
just freaking robots that look identical to me, and you
what they could do with that.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Did you see the Black Mirror episode with the computer
video game programmer Guy. I think it was in the
most recent season, where the little beings in the computer
program were sentient and eventually they figured out this way
to broadcast this signal or frequency that would basically take

(47:03):
over all of humanity's minds. It just makes me think
of what we're talking about right now, I mean, Black Mirror.
If that's not a warning about the possibilities for our future,
I don't know what is.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
That was a really interesting episode, really interesting. He drew
that symbol on the piece of paper and then he
put it up to the camera and the camera recognized it,
like yeah, downloaded the virus onto everywhere, and then everyone
like dropped dead all day exact same then they were
all infiltrated with like this what could be described as

(47:39):
like nano bots or these bots are inside of the computer.
What did they say that it was to remove remove
emotions and.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I don't remember exactly what it was for.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
It was something like that. It was like to create
piece by removing emotion, the human psyche or something like that,
where everyone is like essentially this, Yeah, they're all hive mind. Yeah, robots.
They all dress the like, they all look alike, they
all say the same thing. Yeah. It's a really interesting one.

(48:16):
The other really interesting one was the neurolink one as
well with the ads. Yes, I think it was the first,
which also had to do with the bees. She said
that the bees had been replaced by robot bees and
that's why she was getting these headaches if you remember correctly.

(48:40):
So they had replace all the bees with like robot bees,
and then she was getting these headaches. And then she
had that seizure or whatever. She passed out and then
she was in like a coma. And then the doctor
came to the guy and was like, hey, we have
this brand new developing technology. She can only be awake

(49:01):
and active during a certain period of like a certain radius.
Then it's like you gotta upgrade, upgrade, upgrade the package.
Get the package. If not, if you don't get the
latest package, then she's just gonna be spending out ads
all the time. It's a it was a beautiful commentary
on our.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Digital relationship with technology. It's such a toxic one.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
And then what was the name of that app that
that guy was Dummy Dumb dumbs. Dummy dumb Dumbs was
the name of the app the guy the people were
on there making money on that because there were a
bunch of construction workers or there were oil field workers
or welders or whatever, and to make money on the side,
they were all doing this app called Dummy Dumb Dumbs
where they just people would sending them money to do

(49:51):
stupid shit online on a webcam.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yeah, I gotta go back and what said that last
season was good?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Ah, bro, that episode was like a perfect commentary on
like the digital age. And it wouldn't surprise me if
we did end up getting something similar to the Dummy
Dum Dumbs app in that first episode of like Black Mirror,
where I mean we already kind of see it, like
we're seeing that unfold before our eyes right now with

(50:19):
uh like buying and selling things online, right, what is
the name of that app that everyone's buying stuff from. Uh,
it's like an auction, it's like a live eBay thing whatnot, whatnot?
So that's what they're doing like on whatnot, So they'll
get on the stream and then they'll have like items

(50:41):
and things that they will sell and then people bid
on the They have like sixty seconds to bid on it.
Then whatever the highest bid is on the product that
they're selling, then it gets shipped to that person. Yeah,
like things are changing, brok and that seems like it's
going to be the future. Is uh like it's going

(51:04):
to be by sell trade online, these type of whatnot streams,
it's going to turn into you know, streaming where people
I mean, you can already get all your stuff basically
delivered to your house. You don't even really need to
go to the store anymore. You can now watch movies
on streaming, Like you don't have to go to the
movie theater anymore. Just watch it on you know, Disney

(51:29):
freaking Plus. I mean, Happy Gilmore Too just came out
like a couple of days ago. You can already watch
it on freaking Netflix.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
There's some very stupid trends. There's some things that are
probably making our reality worse for everybody as we speak.
Social media has become just a tox success pool of nonsense.
For the most part, the only thing I've used it
for for a long time is to advertise my show

(51:56):
and the things that I'm working on. And now you know,
you do the same thing. But it's gotten to the
point where people are making up entire events and stories
and scenarios and putting them out there as if they
were really happening. People are profiting from the AI and
the nonsense and they're putting out there, and it's just

(52:18):
become a very dark time for social media and any
interactions that you're going to try and get out of it.
Even if you're doing what we do and trying to
promote our shows, promote our work that gets so suppressed
by the algorithm. It's not being pushed like the twerking

(52:41):
or the dog and cat videos or the fake nonsense
UFO videos. It doesn't get picked up by the algorithm.
We're stuck in our echo chambers and it's difficult also
for us to get new information from outside of our
echo chambers. So not sure where we go from here.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah, and if you look at those like old those challenges,
you remember, like the condom challenge or whatever, where they
would put they would what would they do, put it
through their nose? They like snort it and then they
pull it out of their mouth or whatever. The tie
pod challenge, the ice bucket challenge, like all that stuff
is like is like programming and like mind control shit.

(53:24):
It's like how many people can we get to do
the stupid ass ship, Like how many people are going
to do it? And it's it's an experiment. And we
don't really see those too much anymore because they figured
out they know now, like you don't really see that

(53:48):
there's not really any challenge. I mean there's TikTok challenges
and like TikTok dances, which is just the evolution of
the the old school challenges.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Right, But it's just like AI. Now almost every other
video you scroll across is going to be some kind
of fake AI animated or created video.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
But that's the other thing of this is, oh well,
anything that gets released that may be real also can
get lumped into that category as well as a double sword, right, people,
If you if something is released that is real, then

(54:33):
there's going to be a section of the population that's AI.
That's a I analyzed it, I put it into my
AI reader, and it's that that's AI. So it's it's
a double edged sword. With that stuff, so it's you know,
it's a way to also mind control and program people

(54:55):
into not believing anything as well, like to you know,
give up on reality. Essentially, it's either you know, because
you're gonna have that's splitting. It's all about confusion. That's
been the name of the game since nineteen eighty three,

(55:19):
is confusion, right. You put out so much information, so
much nonsense, so much garbage, you cloud it under all
of these other things. You have everybody talking about it.
That's why the government loves conspiracy theories. They love conspiracy theories.
Actually they want more conspiracy there because the more conspiracy

(55:40):
theories that are out there, the more that they can
continue to do the same thing that they've been continuing
to do for years and years and years, and the
real information can be swept up underneath the rug because
none of us can ever be on the same page.
And that's where the confusion factor comes in. If everyone's confused,
everybody has their own opinions on everything that's going on,

(56:03):
no one can agree upon anything, then we're divided. There's
gonna be absolutely nothing that we can do about any
of this stuff. We will just be talking in the
echo Chamber over and over and over and over again.
I mean, this is this is probably what is this
like the second or third time we've ever talked about Epstein.
I guarantee you bro in the next five to ten years,

(56:27):
we're going to do this again. We're going to talk
about Epstein again, probably ten or fifteen more times, and
nothing is ever going to be done about it because
there's nothing that we can literally do about it. You know,
like we're just out here talking and and people are

(56:51):
hearing it, and then like, what are we actually going
to do? There's literally nothing that we can do really
about any of this stuff. It's just yeah, you talk
about the information. You can bring the information a lot.
You can make people aware, which is good. I like
making making people aware. I like putting out, you know, factual,
good information for people to listen to. But as far

(57:13):
as doing something about it, you're not gonna be able
to do anything about any of the show. But what
documentary have you ever watched? This actually changed fucking anything? Nothing?
What what show has actually changed the course of anything?
Probably maybe like Joe Rogan has changed something. Someone's heard

(57:35):
something that Joe Rogan has said and been like Okay, well,
we need to maybe make some kind of and I
think he was responsible for some of the eye would
gain stuff and the legalization of some things and stuff.
But really it's like we're we're sitting here with like
a with like a hope and a prayer almost or
praying to that Ai God, praying to that Ai God

(57:58):
to come in and make some changes, you know. But
it's like we're we're honestly just you know, speaking to
the choir at this point, and it's become like a
kind of kind of redundant and in this you know,
Merry go round of information. Well, making is great again, baby,

(58:19):
make conspiracy great again.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I think the one thing that you can do, and
that each and every one of us can do, is
to enjoy our lives and make the best of it.
And you're already doing that, and you're already providing information
and entertainment for the folks out there alternatives to the bullshit.
So you're doing your thing already, bro, And I think
that's pretty much all we can do at this point.

(58:44):
But speaking of maybe you could tell us a little
bit about what you're working on without giving away too much.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yes, I thank you very much, Chris, And yeah, I
didn't mean not to come off like any type of
way or that you know, people shouldn't be doing this.
I'm obviously going to continue to do it, but it
just gets kind of like some days you're just like,
oh man, does get rough out there. But I appreciate
everybody that's listening, and I appreciate everybody that's helped me

(59:15):
out on my show, chause you've helped me out a lot.
Appreciate all of my followers, all my listeners, and appreciate
the Forbidden Knowledge News Network and everybody that's associated with it.
So don't misconstrue my words there, audience, But yes, my
new documentary is going to be about the Psychic Spy

(59:35):
Stargate program. It's going to have people in it that
were involved in the creation of it and were involved
in SRI, which was the study of it, the Scientific
Study of Psychics and Remote Viewing. And I'm going to
be starting filming next month and has been written completely.

(59:57):
And now I'm going to be starting the filming process
and get into pre production on that and hopefully have
it out whenever I get it done, because I'm not
gonna well, once I get everything filmed, then I'm going
to be on it, but don't know exactly when that's

(01:00:19):
going to fall, but yeah, be looking forward to that.
And thanks for having me on, Chris. If people interested
in checking out more of my work, you can find
me on Raised by Giants, on YouTube and any and
all podcast platforms, and if you would like to reach
out to me personally, you can find me on Instagram
at Raised by a Giants pod, and on x Twitter

(01:00:40):
and Raised by Giants eight and on Facebook at Raised
by Giants. Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Brothers, let It Be Written, Let It Be Done. Could
definitely be doing this again in the future. Until next time, everyone,
have an excellent evening. We'll talk again tomorrow. Seldian
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