THX 1138 | Wayne Steiger & Ryder Lee

Ryder Lee teams up with Wayne Steiger for a mind bending discusion about George Lucas's first movie 'THX 1138' that seems to predict our current reaiity or at the least a not so distant reailty with the forthcoming AI Wars against humanity.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, welcome everybody. How are you doing this hump day
day after tax day in the United States? Ain't you happy?
Come on, everyone, don't jump up all at one time.
But any case, we're still alive, at least for the moment. Well,
it depends on what alive means. But anyway, thank you

(00:20):
for tuning in. I much appreciated. I think you're going
to find today's show to be an exciting one because
we have our good friend mister Writer, Lee returning and
Writer just want to say thank you for coming on,
and it's always a pleasure. We got a topic today

(00:42):
that is impacting all of us, but before we get
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(01:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:18):
Meaning this out, Thanks so much, for having me on,
Wayne really appreciate It's always an honor and probably speaking
with you. If people are interested, they can find me
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(01:42):
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and insights into the mix. Yes, oh, taxis and tax
season hit me hard. It hit me like a freaking

(02:02):
ton of bricks wing. Holy crap. Hope everyone survived and
everyone's good.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, they keep talking refunds. I'm going, what refund I
didn't I had to like you, hey, but I just
want to give you a kudos too, because I find
it interesting now that you know Pam Bondy and Cash
Betail are in there and Trump has you know, fulfilled
what he said was going to release the JFK files.

(02:28):
Thought it was so fortuitous that you know, you had
made this what a year year and a half ago.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, so it came out at the I think it
was twenty twenty three. Actually it's US twenty twenty three
on Amazon Prime, but I keep think thinking that was
last year because it was just both documentaries kind of
being in the process at the same time, so I
got confused on the actual year, but it's says twenty
twenty three for a JFK accident. Yeah, we're just kind

(02:55):
of sitting back. We might end up making a sequel
to the movie because there's so much information that we
can now put in there. So eventually we're just you know,
with eight thousand JFK files that was all dumped, we're
kind of setting back and like waiting because we know
that there's something within those files that's going to you know,

(03:18):
kind of prove what we were seeing happened with the
JFK assassination. So we're just kind of taking a step back,
letting people kind of go through them because that's a lot, Yeah,
and see what happens with that. But we probably will
either be doing a sequel to JFX JFK X two,
or we'll be doing a director's cut or something of

(03:41):
the movie.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
And then the one thing I was surprised about from
I have not read them. I've just heard of other
people who have read it, and they said that one
thing that surprised them was the involvement of Israel and
the assassination of a United States president.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
And there's a lot of interesting stuff about me.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Geez. You know, it's like, uh, you know, Jack was
a good man, I mean, wow, but still kiss off
the uh uh the Israelis and watch yourself, that's right.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
And he was trying to cut funding to Israel, and
that was you don't do that, anybody.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Can you just imagine what kind of AI Israel is producing.
I mean, we think about Russia and China and the
United States, but heck, you know, you've got nations now
that you know, they have a permanent astagrim it seems,
and if they unleash an AI, I mean, crap sakes.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, I think we're heading in the really dangerous territory.
Uh at the moment. And so many people have done
shows on AI and they they're like, it's the terminator
is the I mean, I think it's going to be
a lot more subtle than that. I mean, it's kind
of getting to the point right now, Wayne where And
I was talking with Matthew James Bailey, He's one of

(05:10):
the leading experts on AI on my channel, and I
was like, hey, Matthew, like, it's getting to the point
now where it seems like it's reading your thoughts. Like
I'll just I'll be laying in my bed and just
thinking about stuff, okay, not speaking it out loud, not

(05:32):
watching any videos on it, not googling it, not typing
it into Google. Because that used to be the way
that it would work, right, All the apps would track
all the other apps, so if anything that you searched
on Google or that you put in the Facebook or
shared that you were interested in, it would then recommend
you ads based on that. But now it's changed to

(05:52):
where it's like it's no other explanation other than it's
scanning your mind like it's gary. I would be thinking about, uh,
you know, martial arts, because I've taken martial arts since
I was like four years old, and I was like, oh, well,
you know, maybe I get back in the martial arts.

(06:13):
Maybe I can like start teaching martial arts because I
can obviously teach it. I know a lot about it.
And then the next morning that I wake up, I
have nothing but local martial arts ads in all of
my social media, Like I've never once watched a video

(06:33):
about martial arts. I've never once looked up martial arts,
like nothing besides like the you know, the standard UFC
ad that you'll get sometimes because UFC is really popular.
But it wasn't about UFC, is about martial arts. And
so I'm scrolling on Instagram and on Facebook and it's like,
do muay Thai in your local area? Like do karate

(06:56):
in your local area? And I'm like, what is happening here?
But that's not that's just one ease. I mean, that's
happened several times in the past couple of months, and
I'm like, holy crap, this is getting really scary because
if this thing can literally hijack into your mind and
read your thoughts and then give you information based off

(07:17):
of your thoughts, that's a very scary reality.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Very scary. And I think that's what's happening. I mean,
we're talking about the forthcoming AI Wars and there is
so much to cover. So I had a recent conversation
with an associate and the conversation got to AI and

(07:44):
we were discussing how AI is now integrated to everything.
I watched the Masters part of the game and every
commercial was AI. You know, IBM saying you can have
a penthouse, AI, you can have a basement AI. You
need AI. And when I don't know if you saw

(08:04):
my proadcast on Monday, but talking about how we're being harvested.
It's our data and they're literally feeding off of us,
literally and if they're doing that and we're willingly complying,
not resisting, because it's almost impossible to resist. And then

(08:28):
you get back to this police state of watching everything
that's all reality now. And it's been told to me
that the weaponization of AI has really been kicked into
high gear. So is George Orwell's dystopian future now here

(08:59):
the real real. I have so many articles in here
how the AI war, How will humans end up? Will
we win that or will we lose it? When you
look at now with the blending of AI and robotics,
we're now seeing that the actual chores, that the jobs,
the things that we do for our livelihood, et cetera,

(09:23):
is now going to be encroached upon by artificial synthetic beings.
What's that you.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
That seems to be what's going on. I mean, people,
several of the big AI people have all been talking
about how it's going to replace a lot of people's jobs.
Now they make it come off as if it's undesirable jobs,
like things that nobody wants to do. But that's just

(09:54):
the beginning. At first, it will takeaways some of the undesired.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
And I interrupt here on something. Yeah, well, Lynn, and
I have a friend that white collar worked at GM
replaced by AI.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I know a few people that has had that that
has worked for these big manufacturing, these car manufacturers, right
as an operator that has been already replaced by air.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
This is the white collar guy. Yeah, in what the
company thirty plus years.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, I know someone at Toyota that just recently got
let go because his position is no longer needed.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
But to your point, and I apologize for interrupting, but yeah,
these are not just labor jobs. You know that. No,
these are six paying figure jobs.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
But that's how it's going to start, and then it's
going to start to branch off from there, because once
we have accepted that as our reality, then it's going
to be easier to let it keep encroaching upon our
everyday way of Life and the movie Thhix that you

(11:14):
had me watch. I was really fascinated by this. I
watched it last night and didn't I'd never heard of
it before. But it turns out that it was George
Lucas's first movie that he ever made, right yes, in
nineteen seventy one, and this was produced by Francis Ford Coppola.

(11:35):
And this movie, this movie was super interesting and it
had a lot of really advanced concepts for his time
that is essentially happening right now. And a lot of
people have said, oh, well, George Lucas had to have
some kind of insider information just based off of the

(11:56):
fact that he made Star Wars and all this advanced stuff. Well,
I think this movie is even more scary than anything
else that he'd ever done, especially it being his first movie.
And I'm watching it and that's another thing that I
really like about old movies or older movies, is that
the dialogue isn't a strong but the filmmaking is a

(12:19):
lot more strong. They're trying to tell the story through
the filmmaking. And I watched the director's cut of TX
on Amazon Prime rented it, and I don't know if
the director's cut is different from the regular kind. I'm
sure that it is.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I think it has extra added scenes and commentary.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah. So as I'm watching it, I'm like, because I'm
trying to figure out exactly what's going on because I
didn't know anything about it. And the way that the
story is told is like through the style of filmmaking,
So you have to watch the movie and not rely
upon the dialogue between the characters to understand exactly what's

(13:00):
going on. But essentially, it's this underground facility where humans
live out and they're essentially building robots for their own enslavement,
which it's almost identical what's going on in our reality

(13:21):
right now. We're essentially building these AI programs to.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean I love the movie, you know,
particularly when you and I were talking last week. What
got me And it's the one scene that I always remember.
It was the older guy, you know, when they had
made the escape from the White Room and he came
into a church, a chapel, and you had priest, you

(13:52):
had you know, the caretakers of the temple, the church
and who and I think about it is you talk
to God. God was right there, and God knew everything
about you. I mean, and this again, I was sixteen
years old when this movie came out, so it hit

(14:13):
us right in that time. Try watching it on acid.
But I digress, because you'll never forget those freaking robot cops.
I mean, you know, it impressed me because you know,
living on a street, you know, you saw cops as
a whole different projection. But anyway, I digress.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, that's one of the first things that I noticed,
because they'll essentially go to this like chopel area where
the AI God gives them. It's essentially confessional. Yes, it's confessional,
like the Catholic church is a confessional. So you walk
into the booth and then you tell this AI God

(14:54):
exactly what's going on in your life, and then it
feeds you back information like obey and stick to the
A plan and stuff like that. I don't have the
exact quotes because I just watched it last night, but
it's basically persist and stay through see it to the end. Yeah,
basically obey and comply and make sure that no accidents

(15:15):
and you know, stuff like that. But I don't think
that they realize that it was actually an AI No. No,
that's what I mean when you look at the whole
idea of confessional. Anyway, I think that the Catholic Church

(15:36):
and the confessional was the first information like data collection
between humans, right because if a regular person goes into
a confessional and tells everything to their priest, they have
all the dirt centered exactly, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
By missus Robinson. But uh no. And the one thing
I found as well with the movie, and it's so
revelent today, is that so humanity is now underground. We
messed up the surface. And again, as you said, so
the whole society in the culture is about making these

(16:19):
robots and making these what we would call today AI
systems fully integrated with robotics. And as I told you,
the takeaway that I see from the movie is that humanity,
humanity is not mature enough to take care of itself,
and so we look for a surrogate in whether it

(16:41):
be religion or technology, et cetera, to take care of us.
And then that allows us, you know, to think and
to do otherswise. But yeah, and so let's advanced, you know.
Nearly forty nine years later, here we are, and today

(17:03):
I believe writer that AI has been weaponized against humanity.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well back to your thought of like humans not being
able to govern themselves, because that is a popular topic
throughout all disaster movies and throughout all zombie movies, throughout
all Into the World movies. It starts out as the
big crisis, right, if it's a zombie movie, if it's

(17:36):
Into the World disaster, asteroid coming down and hitting Earth.
The problem is is that we have to we humanity
takes care of that issue first, so we take care
of the zombies, and then the zombies take a background
to the people. So then the further that along you

(17:58):
get now is shifted from this external crisis to a
human crisis. And then there's these these structures that then
begin to form. You get like tribunals, you get little
councils of people that are that survive this catastrophe that

(18:19):
is trying to rebuild civilization. It seems like we just
continue to do the same thing over and over and
over again. And we've talked about this several times, me
and you went on several shows in the past. It's
like we we just continue to want to have that
type of power structure at the at the top. Now,

(18:41):
whether that's government, whether that's like a council, whether that's
a tribunal. I mean, that's what they're doing in the
show The Last of Us on HBO. Now like a
you know, an apocalyptic zombie type reality where these infected
people have and now they're in a city where they
have like a government, council tribunal now, which resembles the

(19:11):
root of what government was before the apocalypse happened. Right,
So it seems like it's like this unavoidable type of
scenario to where if something were to happen, it's always
going to lead back to some sort of some version
of government, and which is kind of sad that we

(19:35):
can't think of any other type of way to do it.
But when it comes to AI, that's what I believe
AI is shaping up to be. I mean, when when
people talk about AI, they talk about AIS like a god.
That AI is going to solve all of our problems.

(19:56):
It's going to solve all of our issues. Now, it
might not solve them like right out the gate, you know,
but it's going to take a while. The AI is
going to clean up the oceans, it's going to clean
up the environment. It's going to fix all of these problems,
like we can't. It's going to clean up homelessness, it's
gonna get clean up.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
All the societies woes and ills.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
But we can do that. We can literally do that.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
We can, but we never do.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
But that was proven in San Francisco. Whenever Jigen Ping
was coming to San Francisco, they cleaned up everything in
San Francisco. They cleaned up all the homelessness, they cleaned
up all the tents, they made it clean, they all
the trash and everything. But then as soon as he left, boom,
they all came right back, you know. So it's proving
that we can do these things. We can't help the environment.

(20:42):
We can't clean up the oceans, we can't in homelessness,
we can't in starvation. But we just don't. So now
we're relying upon this this AI super god intelligence that
is essentially going to do it for us.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, to go back on you on the observation that
we can do these things but we don't. To me,
and if I use modern day medical standards, particularly in psychology,
you would say that that person is mentally ill. They

(21:21):
do not have the cognitive skills that which should allow
them to quote unquote live a normal type so we
as a species have proven ourselves we can do all
these things, but we don't. And it, just like you said,
we never seem to advance further. Now, I don't know

(21:41):
if an AI existed in the past. You know. My
theology training, you know, and I quote the Book of
Ecclesiastics is that that which once was shall yet be again.
There's nothing new known to man under the sun. You know.
That's how the Book of Ecclesiastics solemn and supposed we
wrote that, all right, So if I to take that literally,

(22:04):
then it means that we're repeating a cycle, and the
question then becomes very real. So if we see AI,
and by the way, we see it in a humanized term,
it's AIS, it's not one. It hasn't reached the singularity yet.
Although I am A I'm on the list at the

(22:28):
Singularity University, which is owned by Alphabet, and that is
where they're working towards. They're working really towards this singularity
where the amalgamation of all the AI programs can be
into a centralized system. But so here we are today.

(22:50):
We can solve homelessness, we can solve hunger. I think
we can solve cancer, disease, but we don't. And the
question is then why would rational species and intelligence don't
do this? And then it gets back to this AI.
So is AI a benefactor or is it a very

(23:11):
benevolent potential doomsday for humanity itself? I personally think they've
weaponized it. Now that's going to become more and more
evident when we don't have any rights, we don't have privacy.
And if some idiot that is controlling this, and I

(23:34):
don't know if there is such a single person or
if it's a corporation, what if they decide to go rogue?

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, I don't know if it's so much as a
weaponized at this very moment, as it is like that
it can be turned into a weapons. And I have
this here to uh share with you in the A

(24:06):
I like your actual I, you know, your your third
eye or the all scene I or the eye of
the pyramid or I of Horus that's on the back
of all of our money and AI. Yeah, okay, So
this is the depicting a a surveillance state.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
It looks reptilian to me too.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
So the AI is you know, like a E y
E for the people that may be listening to just
audio and not watching the video. Then you have AI
artificial intelligence. So you have this idea of a of

(24:49):
a surveillance and all scene I right, which then you
know takes you back to the eye of Horus and
you know the I mean, that's what people have said
that the the pyramid in the eye of the Illuminati,
pyramid eye is really all about. Is surveillance. Is the
surveillance like I always you know that saying I always

(25:11):
got one eye on you, you know what I mean,
That's why they're all the symbolism is like covering that
one eye. Yeah, because it's like I got my eye
on you, you know. So it's like when I seen that,
I was like, oh my god, how did this you know,
get past me? There? Like that makes so much sense
AI AI.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
So as you were talking, I was getting this download. So,
I mean it was with the founding fathers, they were
well aware of the all seen eye. And it's interesting.
So could it be said that from an esoteric point
of view, that the eye of Horace, who dates back

(25:56):
five thousand plus years, what if it was a ProMED
all along? Yeah, I mean people keep saying, well, you know,
if there was a catastrophe. If the sun went nova
and what have you, that would be all of computers
and AI. But no, it understands, it doesn't need electricity

(26:20):
in the sense that we it understands Tesla. It knew
Tesla's wireless electricity was real. The United States knows it.
And yet we still live in a culture where we
generate dirty power when in fact it could be free power.

(26:43):
So again, this is authoritarian. It's dystopian in its nature.
And now they're bringing that. I don't know if it's
a culture, if it's a mindset into an artificial intelligence,
that's what we call it, and it's propagating itself everywhere.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Well, when you think of the implications of what actually
AI is, I mean when you look at the Book
of Revelation, and again you know that I'm not a
religious person. You know that we've had several conversations about,
you know, religion and Christianity. But I just think that
it's really interesting how in the Book of Revelation and
you can flush this out for me when but basically,

(27:29):
and I'm paraphrasing that the Book of Revelation essentially says
at the end times there's going to be somebody that
comes forward. Everyone's familiar with this, everyone knows this that
is essentially going to be the anti Christ. Okay, now
what do we look at Ai as that I just mentioned?

(27:50):
We look at Ai as this god that is going
to fix all of our problems and fix all of
our issues. Okay, So in my mind, I'm thinking, was
the Bible correct? Is this prophecy of the Book of
Revelation correct? And we're looking at this and the wrong

(28:10):
way though. We're looking at this as like a human being.
We're looking at this as like a man that's going
to come down and is essentially going to prophesy himself
as the Savior when he's really not. And several people
have said, well, this man's going to come out of
Israel and it's going to be the Third Temple or
the fourth Temple or whatever it is, and whenever that's built,

(28:32):
that's going to signify that the anti crisis is here
and everything. Well, maybe this is the third Temple. Maybe
Ai is the third Temple or the fourth Temple? Which
one is it?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Is it the third Temple or the be the third
Well technically at would be the fourth Temple. The first
Temple was failed to sell it would be the third
excuse me.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Third, Okay, So it's the third temple. What if AI in,
what AI is encased in is the third temple that
needs to be built, and we're building that right now.
And the artificial intelligence itself, which we're going to all
look at as like a god, is the false God,
is the essentially the anti Christ. I mean, there's nothing

(29:15):
more anti human or anti God than an artificial life,
a robot. I mean, if you just look at it
on the basis of you know exactly what it is.
A machine is everything that is not godly.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
So I had the privilege of knowing Tim Lahay, who
wrote the Left Behind series, and we belonged to the
same private organization. I'll just abit. We had dinner with
him and his wife one night, and because he had

(29:58):
a unique person effective on what the end days was
looking like. Now he has passed over, but when we
were meeting with him and having dinner with him, I
asked him, I said, so, how did you come up
with this idea of this Antichrist? And he said, well,
he had dreams. You know, there was messages that were

(30:20):
given to him. Very interesting. As I was listening to you,
just thinking about karate and then getting your ads. But
more directly, I think he would have probably wrote a
different version had he had a better understanding of computer programs,

(30:41):
algorithms and how powerful they really are. Because I think
you're right. We keep thinking that the Antichrist is going
to be a physical man, because if you read the
Book of Revelation, it talks about how he does things.
But what people don't understand is that it's not a

(31:02):
human man. And you know, if I cut the conspiracy
hat on, I could say that Donald Trump fits all
the parameters except for a few of being the Antichrist
or someone who's very close to him. Could it be

(31:24):
like a advisor or like an Elon Musk. I mean,
they're building systems. They have a vision that is a
synthetic version of humanity. Now they're very magnanimous because they
see this as aiding humans, helping humans, But isn't that

(31:45):
what gods do? I mean? And it's my position as
a philosopher. You know, I'm almost seventy years old now
and so I can actually wear that title. Earned it.
But I look at this and I'm going, well, so

(32:06):
what's the core issue here? I mean, what's the thing
of why AI to what end of AI? What's its purpose?
What is it designed to do? And if we can't
answer those basic questions, and then we've created something we're
not intelligent enough yet to learn how to maturely handle

(32:27):
it because we got this one fault writer, And that
is what it really comes down to, is the difference
between you and me and everybody else is what kind
of luxury can I live in that I could afford?
And you think that we're afford and now we're into

(32:50):
this system. Now that really what it is is that
who can live the most luxurious, free, non binding type
of life? Well, you need money for that unless you
really go off the grid. I think AIS figured that
out and said, Okay, if that's how to control mankind,

(33:13):
we can do this the easy way the hard way.
I think we're about to see the hard way.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Well. It's really interesting because in the movie th Jacks,
that's kind of flushed out as well, because the whenever
the main character what is his name, Kevin Duval, Robert Duvall,
Robert Duvall, sorry he is, uh, We basically we're expendable, right,

(33:41):
And that's what the movie is. Really The subtext of
the movie is really about, from my perspective, is that
humanity is expendable, and whenever the the cost outweighs the usefulness,
then you're discarded. Okay, And that's what the premise was.
Toward the end. Whenever he's climbing up out of the

(34:04):
hole to get up to the top to see the sun,
and the sun blinds him because he's never seen the
sun before, because he's been underground for his entire life.
And whenever the robots are chasing him up the ladder,
they get the call on the thing. They're like, stop
chasing them, stop going after him, because the money exceeded
what it was worth for them to capture him to

(34:25):
bring them back to the facility. So they're like, let
him go. Let him go. This is costing us too
much money.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
He's over his credit limit. Man. But that's true. And
you know it's it's serpentine discussion because it's all freaking related,
because it is. I mean, when we're born, you get
a burth certificate and you are now chattel. You're traded.

(34:55):
And as I contended on Monday, I think that all
these social platforms, all these aggregation companies of our data,
they should be sending us a royalty check each month
because we're providing for it. Right, They're profiting off the
reselling of our information about you and I. I did

(35:17):
a video what was that six years ago? And it
was at a Ted talk. If you ever watched one
of those, yes, and they.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Were those talk will go down in history.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, and if you watch those, folks, I mean, wow,
you can get some insights. And that's where Zuckerberg brought
up the fact of about this digital altered reality, that
every one of us have a digital surrogate. They built

(35:53):
our digital surrogate based upon us, and that there's this
whole different reality taking place of the Sarah gets us.
And the thing about it is if you think of that,
if that system is running and if it's in pregnant,
it's if it's penetrated by AI, and then imagine this

(36:18):
thing begins to cascade upon itself because you look at
every direction you look at, there's no escape. It's there
whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, that is very scary and it reminds me of
one of the Black Mirror episodes that I just recently
watched from the new season, where it's basically it's a
sequel to one of the previous episodes that they did.
I think I might have been Bandersnatcher a few seasons before,

(36:53):
where they've created this this AI digital artificial intelligence video
game okay, and they it's on Netflix, thank you. So
they've taken DNA from human beings like in the real world,
and then they've cloned them inside of the video game.

(37:17):
So now their consciousness is living a separate life in
this digital world, in this digital space, but they're they're separating.
So you have the real you, then you have this
digital artificial intelligence version of you, which then gets into
like this idea of like Severance, so that the Apple

(37:40):
TV Plus show called Severance. Whenever they're at their job,
they are a completely different person because they've had this
implant into the back of their head. They drill a
hole in their skull and put this implant in there.
So whenever they come to work, they're a different person.
They're a completely separate consciousness. And then whenever they leave

(38:02):
they go down the elevator, they're back to their normal self.
So for eight hours a day, you are not you.
You are a different person whenever you're at work. Then
when you look at the bees one I alla on
my show talked about this like how the bees work

(38:22):
and how their minds work. Whenever they're inside of the
hive like a beehive and they're close to the queen bee,
the bees are essentially brainwashed in mind controlled. They work
as a hive mind while they're inside of the hive,
but whenever they're outside of the hive, they're essentially back
to their own individual which then gets into the first

(38:46):
episode of the New Black Mirror show where this lady
where the bees. They change the bees from organic bees
into robot bees, and it started giving people headaches, and
they got tumors in their brea and they would slipping
the comas well. They had a solution for this. They
had put an implant in their head that gave them

(39:08):
the ability to animate themselves any.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
And what mosk wants to do with the neural net.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
So it would bring them back to consciousness out of
the coma. But they had to pay a certain amount.
They had to pay a monthly subscription for this right
to to not be in a coma anymore. So they
put the mplant in them. They were but but you
could only be in the surrounding areas where they had
servers Okay, so if you went outside of the area

(39:37):
where the servers were, then you would go back into
your coma.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Okay, isn't that the idea of the smart cities? Just
a friend, I don't.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Know, That's what I was, That's what I was thinking.
I'm like putting all this together, and they're they're showing
all the stuff on TV.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
I'm what I am really getting concerned just tween you
and I because this is getting too much like reality.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Seriously, and I didn't even tell you the best part
of this first episode of Blocks. It gets better because
the subscription company that you have to pave to have
your loved one or whatever be able to not be
in a coma anymore and walk around like real life.
You have to increase the amount that you pay all

(40:35):
the time, or the person just starts running ads. They'll
just start spinning out ads out of their mouth. So
if you're at the base level tier, which is what
they call the common tier, which is three hundred dollars. Again,
this is on the show.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yes, everybody to watch the movie. What is that on
Amazon Prime? What is that one on.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
That's on Netflix?

Speaker 1 (40:57):
This is the first episode in the news, but it's super.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Dark, guys, it's really freaking dark. I watched it at night,
and I don't recommend watching it at night because I
know how this stuff works and it affects your subconscious
It's kind of like whenever I watched The Substance, very
very dark, almost demonic type of movie. But I watched
this first episode and it's really dark. So for people

(41:20):
that isn't into that kind of stuff, I would not
recommend watching it. But I watched it for science. Okay,
I watched it for science to be able to talk
about it. All right. So the three hundred dollars based here,
just like in the base tire of Netflix, Hulu, Peacock, HBO,
you get ads all the time. Whenever you're watching, you

(41:44):
get an ad like every freaking eight minutes, eight to
ten minutes, and it's a it's a non skippable ad.
It's not like a YouTube ab where you can like
skip it and then it goes through for like five seconds.
It's like a whole minute ad. So whenever you're on
the base tire of this service for three hundred dollars
a month, you just randomly spit out ads. So you

(42:04):
can't work a job, you can't do any of this stuff,
and the person that's spitting out the ads doesn't know
that they're spitting out the ads. They think that they're
just going on in a regular streamline conversation. But in
the middle of the conversation, they can be spitting on
an ad for like a beer trimmer or boner pills
or whatever it is that they want to put in.
One of the examples was like Lube, Like they were

(42:26):
having intercourse, the main characters in the show were having intercourse,
and then she just starts spitting out an ad for lube,
and I mean, it's a real commentary on our current
state and where things may be headed in the future.
And I was like, this is genius, but it's also
super dark, all at the exact same time. So then

(42:49):
they go and she's He's like, well, why is my
wife just randomly spitting out all these ads. She's in
trouble at work. She's lost her job because she can't
work a job with spitting out ads every ten minutes
and not knowing that she's spitting out ads, and she
was the manager of the company was like, oh, well
you're on the base here, sir. You're going to have

(43:11):
to upgrade your system, which was going to be more
money in order to get the system without the ads,
just like all these streaming services do. You got to
pay triple the amount of money from the base tier
to get the ad free tier. I was like, Wow,
this is just an amazing commentary on real life here.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
I want to have lunch with that person came up
that idea, because you know, I can guarantee you that
Silicon Valley it is all over that shit. I mean,
they're like, okay, because it's it's the model that you
know back in the nineties when you know, we were
just coming out businesses on the internet. You know, you
had you know, the clicks, you had the impressions, and

(43:55):
you know, we designed all these different aspects of how
this person is going to be impacted. And we'll consider
that an actual eyeball. And now that you're talking and
I'm going to go, in fact, I'll probably do it
when I get up from here. I'm want to go
watch that thing, because if that's a reality, even if

(44:16):
it's in the imagination. I've been a serial entrepreneur, and
I know how ideas and I know how things get funded,
and how is it that people like an Elon Musk
comes up with ideas that you would say, well, you
know that that's fantasy, science fiction, you know, never will
come about. But yet it has. The founder of Boeing

(44:39):
before he died, you know, he put in skunk Works,
he said that we were fifty to one hundred years
ahead in technology. All right, So just on our discussion today,
then that tells me AI has been here. This this
I don't even think we know where it came from,

(45:03):
but now it is here, and all of this conversation
writer leads right back to this central point. It's being
weaponized against us, and it seems that that has been
the program all along.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, it really does. And then when you're take into
consideration like AI in and of itself and exactly you
know who created it? Where did it come from? I
mean like we don't know exactly, Like we don't know
who created the dark Web. You know, there's several people
that say that the dark Web was the initial channel

(45:40):
for the Dark Web was created by the military and
then but other people have taken credit for the Dark
Web being created by a soul individual. So we don't
even really that's the part of this is like all
confusion you know, create as much confusion as possible. And
what makes me think of like especially the first episode

(46:00):
of this TV show, is that they created the problem. Right,
So whyene, Let's set back for a second. So let's
say that you have a really good idea and you
want to create a company surrounding this really good idea, okay,
and you want to create product surrounding your invention. Okay,
you want to sell it to the masses. Well, what
happens whenever the masses don't need your product, you're not

(46:22):
going to make any money. So what you have to
do is you have to create the problem.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Okay, So whenever you create the problem, then you can
sell them the solution. And I think that that has
been the process for a lot of things in our reality.
Almost everything has been the problem, reaction solution from the top.
So they have this idea that's going to make people
a lot of money, but they don't have the market
for it, so therefore they then create the market for

(46:50):
it and then sell their product. That's how it's been
with all the injections. That's how it's been with all
this stuff. That they've created the problem. And as I
always look, you know, something the other day, Like the
ingredients on the back of it was like this new
sparkling water energy drink that I got at a gasttion

(47:12):
because I just needed something to drink. I normally just
drink the sparkling waters regularly, like the Lacroix or the
Bubbly because it's like has no calories and it's actually
really good for you. And I was like, okay, well,
I'm gonna go in and get one of these new
sparkling water energy drink things. So then I take it
out and then I was like looking through the ingredients
on there, and it's a potassium sorbait, which potassium sorbait

(47:35):
is a human carcinogenic, but it's able to be consumed
in low doses. Science right, Science has said the potassium
sorbit you can consume in low amounts without it be
hazardous to your body, Okay, which, okay, whatever, that's fine.
But it's been proving that whenever you mix potalsium sorbait

(47:58):
with citric acid, which is vitamin C A one hundred percent,
makes a human carcinogenic within your product, Okay. And then
I'm looking on it and then I see citric acid
vitamin C on there. So that's the way that they've
gotten around it. It's a backdoor into the system. So
they've just separated those two ingredients and they've put those

(48:19):
two ingredients in there. But whenever you look at them individually,
it's like, Okay, this product is okay, consumable for human
consumption with that in small but doses. But it doesn't
say that you can't add both products that cause the
exact same thing into the product that you're selling.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
This is an intelligent species.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
They've just backdoored everything, And I'm like, okay, well, why
can't you just put the juice, the vitamin B, the
vitamin C and all this, Like why do you have
to have the potassium sorbet in there? Why do you
have to have all these other human carcinogenic One of
these things said that it has nanoparticles in it.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
And that can alter your Now you know why they
heard your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I'm just like, what is going on here? Like why
can we not make any of these products without having
these these human carcinogens in the products? Because they're they're
slowly poisoning us, and that's legal poisoning because it's been
shown that in low doses. It doesn't have an immediate effect,
but in thirty forty years, if you're eating all these

(49:32):
foods and drinking all these drinks that has these human
carcinogens in it, you're not going to have a good
time in the future. So it's a it's a slow
poisoning of the population for the end, which then you
either die of all the hoop's cancer and like all
this stuff. You have all these issues and all these

(49:53):
problems because of the food and the things that we drink.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
So again, the question that I asked is to what end? Then?
I mean, is this going to lead into a crisis?
Is again, it seems like it's contrived. Everything that we've
been talking about. We're living in it, and there's a
part of me that you know, it's like I can

(50:19):
and I'm sure we all experience this, but it seems
to becoming more in tune that I'm seeing this more
as an observer than a participant. I know I'm in it,
all right, but I'm stecking back and I'm asking myself,
all right, so this whole all this is happening to

(50:41):
what end? And I don't see anything positive we spoke about, Man,
the time has gone by, well almost an hour ago.
We were talking about we have the intelligence, supposedly, we
seem to have the moral capacity to do it. We

(51:05):
definitely have the technology to do it to basically end
all the woes of our society, of our species. But
yet you and I have sat here and we have
talked about so many different aspects and every one of
this is working against us. If it's not the food,

(51:25):
it's the air. I mean, geoengineering now, is you know
a reality? Even the Trump administration is admitting. Okay, yeah,
I think it was State of Tennessee pasta recently that
you can't geoengineer their airspace above the State of Tennessee.

(51:46):
I like, don't how that's going to work out. We
seem to have these corporations that I swear I don't
think they're run by humans, because it seems like it
it's always going to turn out bad for us, and
we don't have the capacity to turn this around or

(52:07):
we don't have the money. I think.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
I think that Facebook and Instagram and a lot of
these social media platforms has been utilizing AI to run
their their algorithms and the things that are going on
there for a really long time. I think they're already
doing that for decades. And I don't think that they
even know how it works. I don't think that they

(52:31):
they know what's going on. I don't think they know
how it works. I think it's gotten so far out
of hand that it's just like taking on like a
complete life of its own. Yes, uh, you know that
also rules out this ability to have like human intervention.
That rules out the you know, having to pay people
to you know, have instead of having you know, one

(52:54):
hundred thousand Facebook employees to moderate stuff, like you can
have one hundred employees to go in and double check
the AI that's running everything, or to go in and
fix certain stuff, which is a lot easier than having
just one hundred thousand people. And another thing that was

(53:16):
in thjax, which is really interesting because the abbreviation thchx
became the word thinks. So thhax is the abbreviation through
texting language as thinks. So if people didn't want to
write out thjacks, well, I mean, if they didn't want

(53:40):
to write out thinks, Like if you're sending a message
or an email or face or a messenger or whatever,
you just put thhax and that means thinks. Okay, So
within that movie Thhax, they have this system, which is
an AI artificial robot system that much diagnoses like things

(54:04):
that are medically wrong with you. Whenever the main character
is leaning down on the bed that says said something
about his kidneys or maybe it was his liver, that
was like having a problem or whatever, and then we
see that in our reality. Now that's what the whole
Trump Stargate AI system is supposedly able to do. Then
Elon Muss says, stop using Google to try and diagnose yourself.

(54:27):
Just put all your symptoms into Groc, and Groc will
give you an accurate description of exactly what's wrong with you.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
All of his words, by the way of like the
facility down in Texas Colossus, you know that it's now
I'm following it, you know, for disclosure, own stock and
certain things like that. But the anticipation is, is the
first synthetic brain the actual synthetic brain? Crap? I mean again,

(55:02):
I you know, I like Elon, I love the entrepreneurists,
but man, I'm sitting back going. You know, this is
like being at a game of baccarath a baccara and
you're holding the banker hand and you get ninety nine
banker hands in a row, and so now everyone's betting

(55:22):
against There ain't no way in hell are you going
to get a hundred. And it's almost like he already knee.
He already knew that he was going to get a hundred.
And that's what I'm just saying. It's so radically advancing.
And if he ever gets the neuralnet going, and there's
plenty of volunteers, there's people out there right now that

(55:43):
have ports in the back of their heads. You tell
me where we're going to get this hope from, because
they're the ones that are going to be those robots.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Which then brings to another Black Mirror episode that's in
this new season where this guy is essentially a lot
of it. A lot of the new season is technologically driven,
which a lot of the older seasons were also technologically
driven as well, but it's a lot focused on AI
and artificial intelligence. There's actually a really good one that

(56:22):
doesn't really have anything to do with machinery, but it
has to do with like alternate timelines and like wishes
and stuff like that, which is I really like that episode.
But there was another episode.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
That had.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
This computer programmer guy that was a game computer programmer,
and he like essentially made friends with a bunch of
these artificial beings within this computer system, and he was
able to take LSD and then communicate with the entities
inside of the computer.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
I can see that.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
So the entities speaking to him and telling him how
to build this mega ultra supercomputer and that he needed
to merge with them. So he put his own implant
into the back of his head and then plugged himself
into the computer program so that these entities inside of
the computer could map out his brain and map out

(57:19):
his neuro networks. And then he does that for a
really long time. So they study him, they get everything down,
and this is to get rid of empathy, This is
to get rid of fear. This is to put you
in like a state of bliss. Right. So then he
gets caught by these cops because he's trying to shoplift
in a thing. So then they take him back to

(57:39):
the police station and he's going through this entire story.
He's telling the police how this all works. And then
he's like, okay, well give me a pad and a
pin and a pad and I'll show you exactly what
I'm talking about. So then he draws out this code, right,
this super advanced, high tech code, and then he lifts

(58:01):
it up and then the police camera that they're in
the room scans the code, right, and then that infiltrates
this virus onto their computer. And then he's like, in
thirty seconds, all of the computers, all the technology is
going to shut down. Then it's going to reboot with

(58:23):
this new system on it, and everyone is essentially going
to die and they're going to be reborn into this
new artificial intelligence system from where these entities have taken
over their brain. So then in thirty seconds, everyone essentially dies,
all the computers go out, all the technology goes out,

(58:44):
and then it reboots into this new system, and everybody
is different. Everyone is essentially now extraterrestrials. Because that's why
people attribute extraterrestrials to, right. They they're so far advanced.
They you know, they've evolved past this need for desire,
need for competition, need for fear and need. But that

(59:07):
also gets rid of a lot of other things like
empathy and you know, love and everything. So it essentially
turned everybody into organic robots.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
So I have to give James Room credit for this.
I hadn't heard about this. I read one in the comment,
so he got me onto something. So everything we've been
talking about, see I can really relate to that. I
can really see that happening because you know that's a
CEO of software company. We had problems all the time

(59:46):
with the code, rewriting, writing new code and everything. We've
been talking about AI. Where does AI live, Well, it
would live in this alternate universe we called ether, and
so James, I've been looking into this. So there is this,

(01:00:07):
and it's new. It's very difficult to do the research
on it so new. But imagine this, writer, We're already
in a synthetic ether. This thing is taken over. We
think that we're living in existing in reality, that this
is the physical verse, but all indications are showing that

(01:00:33):
it very well may be a synthetic ether. Stay tuned, folks,
I'll get more of this as I continue. It's just
a really because something's happening and now respecting on the
time here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
But so.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
If there is this this eventual weapons eventually with the
weaponsation of AI and as it begins to proliferate within
the net itself and integrate into these other systems. Can
humanity survive that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Well, according to the t Jaxon, we're going to have
to go underground. And what are all these big people
building And they're all building underground underground bunkers. This catastrophe
that people have been warning about for a really long
time again might not be the way that we think

(01:01:32):
that it's going to go down. Just like what I
was mentioning with the Antichrist in the end of time,
it might not be a human it might be artificial intelligence.
And the reason that things go to complete shit, for
the lack of a better word, is because of this

(01:01:55):
artificial intelligence, and then we all have to retreat to
underground or or maybe that is Elon's plan. Maybe that's
why he wants to go to Mars so bad because
he knows that we're on this this trek of artificial
intelligence and it's going to essentially implode upon itself, and

(01:02:19):
he wants to get there by a certain timeframe.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
It's already said, you know, it's well out there that
he said the odds Now he updated this, you know,
he gave it ten to twenty percent that within the
next ten years it will go completely rogue. He's upping
that percentage. He's sending Gork to Mars, you know, the
two Gorks. He's hell bent and getting off of this planet.

(01:02:46):
And you've got to ask yourself, and I happen to
think that this guy is more than just a human.
If that's the case, then shouldn't we all be paying
attention a little bit more?

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Yeah, the whole thing has been like, oh, there's going
to be this giant natural disaster and stuff, but people
aren't really thinking, oh, well, maybe this is an artificial
disaster that we brought upon ourselves within artificial intelligence, right,
And I don't know, I think that, you know, the

(01:03:18):
whole arc of the I think that the arc of
the Covenant plays some kind of role within this as well.
Like what I was mentioning in one of the first
times that we ever did a show together, and I
did my presentation how the Arc of the Covenant is
probably some sort of technological component of something and maybe

(01:03:39):
this was a much older, much previously older artificial intelligence
that has been concealed within this box and then if
it was to be let out, then it was going
to recavoc I mean when you look at it and
it's just the coincidence too that the Sun Streak document
gets released by the on the CIA Archives, which talks

(01:04:06):
about the remote viewing unit at Fort Meade remote viewing
the Ark of the Covenant, which I've had that document
for a really long time, and I know that the
individual personally that was responsible for remote viewing the Ark
of the Covenant. I was just talking to him about

(01:04:27):
it the other day.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Well, if you live, you know, I come from you
know position again just you know what, my former religion.
But it was very obvious that whatever this entity is,
it has to have gold there is and gold has
so many properties as we all know. And then even

(01:04:52):
the Holy of Holies that was built into the First Temple,
I contend was an actual living entity that was in there.
It was an actual living energy of which was deadly
to humans. I mean, the high priest only went in
there one time of the year, and you know, they
had a chain on his foot with a little bell

(01:05:13):
on his little toe because if it stopped ringing and jingling,
that meant he And so yeah, I and it's my
contention that after Solomon broke the Covenant with this entity
that they somehow labeled as Yahweh God whatever, you want
to say it left, and if there is a residual

(01:05:37):
of this energy, if the arc of the Covenant is
still here, I don't know if it is or isn't,
but if it is, I would think that it's probably
more sought after for its alien technology than it is
as a religious artifact.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Yeah. And that's what it seems like that it is
is like a form of highly evnced technology. I mean
when you look at it, the people that went around
it in biblical times that it was written about, they
would either get like deathly sick.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Radiation sickness, radiation sickness.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yeah, or they were just like dine, they were.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Just well, you know, the high priest they had the
pure gold silk undergarment on and the e fraud that
they wore in their chest. I had a Jewish teacher
taught us on this, and that it was his contention

(01:06:34):
was that this protected the high priest against this radiation,
that whatever this was surrounded itself with. And you know,
come to find out, you know, some three thousand years later,
and that in fact, they found out that that's exactly
what it did. You're on mute writer, y.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Yeah, I would I do that all the time on
my show. For some reason, I would I wouldn't go
near those supposed I wouldn't take any chances.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
I did a whole thing on the kibob and that
that damn thing. You know, that's what happened to Moses.
He was irradiated. You know, his skin literally shone. It
was a bright light. He wore a veil over his
face because the is that those Israelites in the desert,
they were freaking out, you know, so, uh, go take

(01:07:36):
it for yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Yeah, protect me up with the freaking three inches of
lead or whatever stuff. I'm not going near the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
It's like, okay, sure, yeah, let me go get closer
to God.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Yeah, give me a jock Give me a jockstrap with
freaking three inches of lead around that bad boy?

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
What was that song? I want to feel of Christ
and Wayne. You know, guarantee you can feel Wayne much
quicker than you can Christ. But anyway, writer went over,
But thank you. This is one we're going to revisit
on again. I think that the days ahead of us,
we're going to see the proliferation of these systems. And

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I don't believe that these systems are these are these
are policing they're they're weaponizing these systems and it's going
to be sold to people as you know, well, it's
going to reduce crime, it's going to keep you safer,
and this is the only way that we can authenticate
who the next person next to you is. In order

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for that mindset that take place, there's going to have
to be an event.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
There will have to be an event, and because they'll
have to create the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Need and the want, the demand.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
To have a commonplace in everyone households, you know, the
governmental structure. I mean, that's what you know Joe Rogan
is essentially advocating for is like I don't know if
he's necessarily advocating for it, but there's a lot of
talk of like an AI president. Right, let's just put

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Ai as the leader of the free nation. Right. AI
will do a much better job because AI isn't human. Right,
it doesn't have these emotions, it doesn't have and it's
going to be like infallible, you know, we'll put that
in charge. Let's take humans out of the equation. Let's

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put Ai there and we'll have it be our god.
But it's a false god. It's not you know, organic
god or whatever you think god or a supreme intelligence
would be. But then again, maybe that's what God actually is.

(01:10:06):
I don't know. Maybe God is an AI, some sort
of computer simulation AI architect. Because in that one Black
Mirror episode that I was talking to you about, this
is the last episode of the new season, that's the
sequel to a previous episode, that's essentially what they did.
They created a duplicate AI god that was in center,

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in the center of the simulation that was creating the
simulation that these people were living in. So they had
one guy at the center of it that was surrounded
by all this stuff that they had duplicated from a
human being, took their DNA and cloned them, which brings
on to a whole other discussion this cloning aspect. They
just cloned the dire wolves, right, The sheep have been

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able to be cloned since the mid nineties into the
late nineties.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
By the way, Coulleen brought this out, You know, is
it just coincident? Once they named those two Romulus and
romy those are those are those are you know, Roman gods?

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And the thing about it is those gods are represented
as wolves. Has anyone else seen the problem here? I
don't know. I mean if I saw a damn, I
think what they when they get full grown, aren't they
like something like five six feet or something. I mean
they're huge. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Well, they just recently released wolves back into Colorado, like
a year ago. They just released a bunch of wolves.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
And that one told me that the you know, Jurassic
Park was actually real. And I have no doubt. I mean,
let me just hope that they really don't do that
kind of stuff. But hey, China is looking for and
now we know this is this is all tied together.
You know, they have now genetically manipulated human beings, and

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I have no doubt that they probably have an interface.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
They probably haven't interface. They're they're they're probably way further
along in the cloning of human beings than they've ever
let on to be. I mean, I was just talking
about this the other day on my show that you know,
in the mid to late nineties when Bill Clinton was president,
what was that there was that their early nineties, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
He was probably the nineties and exties.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
There was this big like there's a bunch of congressional
hearings and stuff surrounding human cloning. So why would they
be doing congressional hearings on human cloning. If they couldn't do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
It, I think that the art of to manipulate a
person is to keep them distracted, right, Why they're distracted
on one thing, you're manipulating the other thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Yeah, and then this like all about animals. You know,
Dolly of the Sheep was the first animal sheep clone
from another sheep, you know. And then and then the
cloning thing just kind of went away. I just went
away for a really long time. And then now it's
starting to pop back up with these these dire wolf
clones and reintroducing and bringing back to the dire wolves.

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I mean, what's next, freaking saber toothed tigers and wooly
mammoth Like, I don't know, let's let's bring.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Back I bet you. I bet you that. I bet
you the wooly mammoth. Particularly, we got fresh DNA, and
you think about where this could potentially end up. It's
not good. I mean no, Uh, what was the woman
she broke the record one hundred and eighty plus days

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that she carried I think it was a pig's kidney,
And you got to ask yourself, So what are they
doing here? I mean, yeah, anyway, we'll writer tell everybody
where they can find you at. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Not only that, like, if you have any kind of
transplant with like any anybody's organ, even if it's a
human organ, you have to be on medication for the
rest of your life so that organ doesn't reject your life. Yeah,
because it's not a part of your body. So if
you get a liver transplant or any kind of a
kidney transplant or anything like a heart transplant or whatever,

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you have to be on medication for the rest of
your life or that that other organ that you got
is going to completely reject and you're gonna die. So
it's like, is this trade off, Well, do I want
this other thing? I'm gonna have to be on medication
for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
So it's just like this is a Foreman vampire ism. Yeah,
I mean seriously, you know, in one case you have
to have blood in order to live. In the other case,
you got to have a pharmaceutical drug, you know, in
order to It's just a different method, right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
It is. Uh, Wayne, thanks so much for having me
on always.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
It's like a ride in the amusement park. I mean
I really like that, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
So much fun being on your show and you being online. Yeah,
people would like to check me out, raised by giants
on YouTube and email podcast platforms. I'm putting out more shows,
I'm doing more member stuff. I'm doing clips from older
videos that I think needed more attention and putting them
out on my channel just so people kind of get

(01:15:54):
a refresher. I got one coming out with them from
Bartse Brawl at one pm PST.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
So that would be about forty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
That would be four four o'clock EEST or three pm CT.
So yeah, I'll be looking forward to that and anybody
is welcome over there on my channel and happy look
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It really does make a difference. It does help in
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want to constantly see Wayne's information on your feed. So

(01:16:32):
thanks so much. Wayne, really appreciate it, brother, Always fantastic
talking to you and can't wait to do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Writer, we are going to do it. I appreciate you.
You have become a good friend and much respect I
have for you, so appreciate it. Thank you all right
everyone in the chatman, I saw all of you all
in there, but you know, I just wanted to be
respectful for you know, writer's time, and these are deep subjects.
I mean, we're going to be talking more on this
synthetic ether because if there's even a more Warsel potential here, wow,

(01:17:02):
this whole thing could be upside down. But Writer, maybe
we'll get you back on and talk about that here
in the next couple of months, because I swear to you,
mark my word, we're gonna see this coming across and
we're gonna go what up? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Yeah, I agree, we're gonna be This is gonna be
a completely different kind of reality. And I already got
that like kicking my nuts with basically freaking reading my thoughts.
I'm like, what is happening here? And I got that
like that flash of like, you know, wow, this is
like going to be super dangerous. If it can already

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do this, like it can manipulate our reality, it could
be and then what happens when you can literally get
into our heads and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Then it's like Scanners, Yeah, it's exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Scanners was another classic class.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Though It's like jeez, all right, brother, love you man,
and thanks again everybody. We'll see you on the other side. Alright, everyone, bye, bye,