What They Caught on Camera Will Shock You

Something is happening inside The Meadow—and the cameras captured the unexplainable. From glowing cubes to vanishing entities and impossible lights, researchers documented phenomena that defy every known scientific rule.

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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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hopefully it'll be on in a few months and release
stun Amazon Prime and Apple TV Plus. Also, I was
made aware that Wayne Steiger's wife was involved in a
car accident a few weeks back and has been going

(01:11):
through physical therapy. So thoughts and energy with Linn and
Wayne through these times and that she makes a full
and complete recovery. Wayne has always been really good to
me and I consider him a really good friend. So
if we can have his wife Lynn, if we can
put our thoughts and send her some recovering energy, because

(01:34):
I know that we can, and I know that remote
healing is very possible, so if we could do that,
that would be really great. But with that down we
have with us today, former DOOD US Army Military intelligence
security specialists, the anti terrorism and counterintelligence investigator, author, and

(01:54):
he's in a brand new documentary based upon his work
and investigations at the Meadow, the Sole Skinwalker Ranch here
to discuss it with us. Trey Hudson, Welcome back to
the show. How's it going with my friend?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, it's going great. You know, I want to wish
everybody out there a very very good and happy Thanksgiving,
and you know, things are doing good. Glad that the
film finally got out a little kind of teaser as
I was up at Land between the Lakes about three
weeks ago filming another documentary with with some you know,

(02:27):
names of some folks you would people would recognize. So
you know, I've just been, as they say, I am
busier than a one legged man at a butt kicking contest.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, we've been talking about this documentary for well, you've
been wanting to do a documentary for a really long
time since I met you in like twenty twenty. You've
been one of the footage and we've been talking about
this footage that you have out there that i'd seen
at Ufomega Con in pretty sure, it was twenty twenty.
I was like the end of twenty September twenty twenty,

(03:00):
and we've been talking about it and talking about it,
but now we can finally show it, and now it's
finally in the documentary. So can you give us a
little bit of background on how this came about and
how you got involved with Tony Merkle's film production crew
and how all of it came together.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, it was you know, it was kind of cool
because you know, I was, you know, about the time
you and I met that the Metal Project, the first book,
was starting to develop a little bit of inertia, you know,
and I was starting to go around and make these presentations,
you know, and every time I would make a presentation
and people would see, you know, the data you know
and the evidence you know, up on the screen in

(03:40):
front of them. You know, they were just mesmerized. It's like, oh,
my goodness, this stuff is fantastic. And so, you know,
I started receiving more feedback, you know, more positive feedback, yeah,
you know, and some negative feedback, but that goes that
goes with the territory. And at that time, my publisher,
Philip Mantle, was h you know, pulling in some of

(04:01):
his contacts, and I was doing the the you know,
the radio circuit, the podcast circuit, and somewhere along that line,
Tony Merkle uh heard, uh you know, heard of me
or heard one of the podcast or something, and had
invited me to come on his show, The Confessionals, and
I did and it was a very popular episode. You know,

(04:23):
it was received very well, and the people were, of
course intrigued by the story, you know, of the meadow
and uh, you know, at the end of it, while
we were chit chatting, uh and yeah, I don't know
if your viewers know this, but after after the show, uh,
the host and guest chit chat. That's kind of a
secret show. But you know, we were chit chatting and
he said, hey, you know, man, I'd love to make
a movie out of this. Uh, you know, I'm working

(04:45):
on a film now that I'm trying to get released.
And that time it was Bigfoot in the Missing Man.
I didn't know what he was working on. He said,
I need to get this latest film out. And afterwards,
you know, let's let's seriously sit down and talk about
doing a documentary. And you know, I hate to sound jaded,
but anybody that's been in this business for a while
and has talked to production companies and all that, you

(05:06):
hear that all the time, you know, so I thought,
you know, and forgive me Tony, you know, he and
I joke about this, but I thought it was another
he had don't call us, we'll call you kind of things. So,
you know, I just kind of filed that away of yeah,
you know, that would be cool if it happened, but
I'm certainly not holding my breath and dog gone it.
After Bigfoot in the Missing Man came out, I got

(05:29):
a phone call from Tony. He says, hey, let's talk
about this documentary, and we set up filming dates at
a at a place in Tennessee. There was a cabin
that was rented and we did a lot of the
interviewing there and the briefing of the team, you know,
Joel Thomas, Ward Heine and Caleb Moore and uh and

(05:50):
then we almost exactly a year ago, we went out
to the meadow for you know, to actually do the
h principal photography and some be old stuff. And you know,
now we have the Other Metal Project, which is a
feature link film and with a really cool add on
documentary I got to pitch called The Helm and Lens,
which I think is equally as cool.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Where can people watch the documentary really quickly? Just to
get this out from so, yeah, where can they watch it?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
You can go to www dot Merkle Films and if
you click on films, it'll come up with a list
of all of their films that Tony's distributing, and you'll
see the Metal Project right there. And there's The Metal
Project the Bare Bones. Then there's The Metal Project a
bonus pack which has the Metal Project several hours of

(06:41):
just raw footage that people can review and see if
they see anything and report it back to us. And
then of course The Helm and the Lens, which is
basically our experiments with the infamous god Helmet.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
I really liked the documentary. I thought it was really intriguing,
especially just the property in and of itself. It's how
many miles is the meadow in the square miles?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
How much the meadow is about eight acres? It's about
eight acres, So I mean it's you know, it's a
big field, but the actual area, you know, of high strangeness,
And yeah, you and I were talking about the UFO
footage and some of that other stuff was taken maybe
five miles from the meadow, so that whole region is
is kind of freaky and weird. Uh So, yeah, you're
probably talking about you know, ten square miles of just

(07:29):
an area right for exploration and you know, tipping sticking
your toe into the pool of high strangeness.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
And it's kind of different than like a regular standard
paranormal investigation, you know what I mean, Like a standard
paranormal investigation is like in a building. It's kind of
different when you're out exploring the forest, you know what
I mean. It's so vast and so deep, and there's
a lot of things that are going on in the forest,
and there's a lot to go over, so you could

(07:59):
probably spend weeks and weeks and weeks out there.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, oh yeah, easily. It's uh, it's an area that's
so remote and Tony kind of talks about it in
the narration as he says, you know, we we turned
off this the hard top road and it was miles
and miles and miles and miles of dirt roads with
no cell reception. So I mean, it is way back
in the middle of nowhere, and you know, it's it
has some challenges, you know, not only you know, personal

(08:25):
challenges about your investigating stuff in an area that's completely
wild and untamed, but there's some logistical challenges you know,
they go along with it. But you know, that is what,
in my opinion, really separates you know, the hardcore you know,
boots on the ground researchers versus people that you know,
might you know, be dabbling in a little bit. It's uh,

(08:46):
it's really what separates the uh you know what they say,
the men from the boys. It's and it's been very rewarding,
and I think part of the reason for that is
its extreme remoteness.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Well, we're gonna have to get into some footage share
because people always get whenever we whenever the show goes
on for like thirty minutes and we don't show any footage.
And the title of the show is what they captured
in the forest, isn't you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, where's the footage?

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I want to see the footage.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Oh I've been hearing that for years and folks, I
am happy to say that it is out there. The
footage is public now, so I can you know, I
kind of had to respect you know Mercle Media and
Dark Collar Studios and not with the footage out there
before the film was public. But now cry havoc and
let slip the dogs of war, release the hounds.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
That's right, Trey. We're gonna and we're gonna watch it,
and it's very I think that it's convincing, evident evidence,
and it's probably the best evidence that anyone has really
gotten at this type of location. And Sam has put
the link to the documentary in the shot here, and

(09:55):
it's also in the description of the video as well,
So if you just hit the more button underneath the
title of the video to pop down, you can click
on the link there. But I'm getting ready to play
the portal video. It's around three minutes long. So if
I could set up a little bit of the portal
video and exactly what's going on, and there's gonna be
some talking over it as well, I think that it's

(10:16):
important for people to watch the entire thing. Yeah, so
you can get a really good idea of exactly what
was going on. But if you could set that up, yeah,
or really quickly before we start to watching, and of
course we'll talk during it as well, but you'll just
get a little run on before we start.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, it's at February of twenty seventeen. We had had
teams stepped down in the meadow and another team on
top of the ridge, which I was a part of
the ridge team, and we had one member of the
team on the ridge. I noticed a box or a
cube in the meadow and he described it as a
by the size of a telephone or communications interface box

(10:55):
on the side of the road. When we finally got
the thermal back to me, it had disappeared, so, you know,
we kind of blew that off. You know, maybe it
was a misidentification. When we dropped down in the meadow,
we started hearing our other teams saying that they were
picking up these cubes or boxes in different parts of
the meadow on their thermals. You know, it would show up, dissipate,

(11:17):
show up, dispate, dissipate show up. And we started vectoring
over to the team that was having this activity, and
by the time we got there, the boxor cube dissipated
and they decided they were going to vector us to
the area where the cube or box was. Now, this
is a forest in February and no leaves, you know,

(11:38):
it's completely bare and you'll see that in the reconstruction video.
And so we dispatched a team to the area of
where the Boxer cube was and as they passed what
was the threshold, their thermal signatures completely disappeared. I mean completely,
And there's nothing out there large enough to obscure the

(12:00):
thermal signatures of three or four people. You know, there's
not a tree out there that big, there's not a
mound of dirt, there's nothing that would obscure it. And
the individuals when they went in, they said that the
area was colder than the surroundings. It was very dark
and very still, like being inside of a black velvet bag,

(12:21):
you know, like with blackout curtains. And they didn't have
any encumbrances going in. They just walked in. But then
when they came back out after about ninety seconds the
two minutes, they started encountering brambles and briers, you know,
having to fight their way back out that weren't there
when they went in. So it was like there were
two realities existing at the same time. And it gets

(12:44):
even weirder, you know, when we start doing analysis that's
not in the film, and I'll talk about that after
we watch this, that ties into some pretty remarkable stuff
that came out of some quantum analysis of some footage.
So here we go.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Let's start it out. Halt.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
You're right on the edge, but it is fadeing away.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
So about how far is this person away from where
the where they are?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, they're probably about maybe forty meters the forty yards
fifty yards, so not very far. No, no, no, And
you can see how bright their thermal signature is.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, very brain. I've used some thermal imaging cameras before
and they're very strong and very powerful.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
They just disappear. Yeah, no, I'm looking at the aformost
signature there.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
You were directly on it, but it has faded almost
the way.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
It's gone.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
That's completely faded away. Now it's gone.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Now we had two at two operators. Uh, the male
was watching through one thermal. The female is the one
actually recording this. And now they're completely gone.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
They're gone.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
He just walked into nothing, right, So they.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Are they are into the woodline.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Now he's picking them up.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
And the thing about the woodline is that it kind
of goes up at an angle, right yeah, Yeah, there's
nothing that could block them from seeing the signature on
the thermal.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, and that's what you'll see in the recreation is
there's a ridge that actually goes up right behind the flatness,
you know of the meadow. And you know, as much
as we tried during the recreation, we could not come
up with a situation where we could completely obliterate the
heat signature of multiple people. It just wasn't possible. And

(15:36):
what's interesting is near the end of this, you're going
to see the camera pan to the right and there's
a small group of trees and you'll hear the female
operator say who or what is that? And she's recording
the heat signatures of two entities I'm going to use
that loose term about three or four feet high. Now

(15:57):
they're coming out. Yeah, you see, it's almost like they
just kind of pop back into existence. Okay, Now look
at the right. You can see those signatures right there
on the right.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, it looks like a very dark man standing right here.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, but it's the white the white heat signature you're
looking for right now.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Oh, that's right in the about the center.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah, well, now, who is what is that? All right there?

Speaker 3 (16:36):
They are look at what is their team for?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh? Yeah, I see them three three, Team three. What
is your location really far? It looks like that they're
further away.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, and they're behind actually a small group of trees.
And uh, you hear him querying Group number three. Team three,
you know, where are you making sure? They hadn't left
station and they're picking up their heat signatures, but Team
three had not moved. What's interesting is right before we
had dropped down into the meadow and worked our way
over to this team, and you have this video also

(17:14):
is we saw in the meadow some heat signatures that
were man sized I'm gonna say six feet tall, you know,
one point seventy five meters tall, maybe half a meter wide.
That was tall, short, tall, short, tall, short tall, And
then it splits into two and then disappears. Not long

(17:35):
after that, we see these two entities over here that
are two heat signatures of a small statue something or
other that does not correspond with the known location of
any of our team members. Now, I gotta remember we
had this is an open field, so nobody's just gonna
be able to walk into us without us knowing about it.

(17:55):
But yet we had these two things watching us as
we're filming our team going into Yeah, I'm gonna say
the P word. You know, what we think is a portal.
And I used the word portal because it's an easy word.
It's a gateway, a doorway into another reality, another state

(18:16):
of being. And you know, quite frankly, I think that's
what happened to these guys, is they you know, they
walked into something that wasn't here. You know, call it
the upside down. You know, that's a popular term right now.
The scary thing is of the four people that went
into that that box, only two are still left alive.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
And they developed some sort of cancer.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Is that cool? Yeah? One individual had had prostate cancer
and remission for years and years and years, and it
came back with a vengeance. Not long after this, another
individual who was a former Army ranger power after you know,
just a really you know, strong, robust guy, uh, died

(19:06):
unexpectedly with a pulmonary not an embolism, uh, pulmonary a
demo and just out of the blue started Uh. Well,
I'm not going to go into it's kind of graphic,
but he died very suddenly in a very graphic and
horrible way.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
I was one of the people that went into that,
and now I've developed uh plaquoriasis, which is an autoimmune disorder.
So you know, it's correlation causality. I'm not saying that,
you know, I'm not saying this caused it. But I
think it's interesting that the people that have gone into
that thing, you know, two of them are dead. I'm left.
I've got some health issues that are tied to autoimmune.

(19:49):
You know Gary Nolan, the uh doctor Gary Nolan talks
about people that have had encounters the high strang its
developing autoimmune disorders. Now I have something associated with autoimmune
and uh, it just you know, kind of makes you wonder.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Wait, so you were one of the people that Yeah,
you were one of the three people four people.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, total of four. We actually had to uh two
instances where we went into it. You know, the one
team went in, came out, and then another separate team
went in. That was that that wasn't recorded, But yeah,
we had several teams that went in, and I was
of a total four people went in. Half of them
are dead and I'm one of the ones obviously still alive.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Wow, what is uh is the other person that went in?
Is he experiencing anything.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Darryl, not that I know of. You know, he hasn't
mentioned anything strange. Uh. Now, the uh, the photography cinematographer,
the Fleer operator, she's developed some uh you know, some
health issues that's kind of unexplained, and she kind of
goes into that in the film. Yeah, she's being interviewed that,
you know, several of us have just kind of weird
health things that have popped up, you know, after this encounter.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, let's watch the raw one more time, just so
in case people missed it and missed exactly what was
going on, and you'll watch the recreation because of course
there's going to be dowters. There's going to be people
that said that they just you know, walked in behind
a bunch of trees and the wasn't able to pick

(21:21):
it up. But they did a recreation of it, and
it's a I think that it's impossible for three people
to just go missing on Flear footage in the woods.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Now if this was again, if this wasn't a house,
that's a different story because you know, Flear can't like
some of the Flear camera like the military has Flear
cameras that can see through walls, through rows of houses
from helicopters and stuff. But a regular flear camera that
you're going to get up that's not military grade can't

(21:55):
see through, you know, walls and houses. So it's not
like they went around a corner in a house and
they're on the other side of a wall. There is
no wall here. So let's just rewatch this part again
and when they disappeared and then they re emerge, and
then we'll watch the recreation.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
It's completely fight away now.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
It's going, what is one of them right up under it?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
See this looks like two people have kind of disappeared,
because you don't see one on there right now, that
one signature, So it seems like two people went in
right first and then boom, gone gone. And he was
just standing there for a minute, and then he took
like one step in he was gone. He wasn't moving around,

(22:51):
you know, it's not like he was walking up the
little ridge there or up the little hill there. He wasn't.
He was standing still, and then he took one stop
and then he was essentially gone or maybe two steps
or three steps.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
And what's interesting is they and you hit on the
abruptness of the of the being obscured, you know from
the thermal It's it's like there was a linear delineation
and if you're on one side of that delineation, you're visible.
If you're on the other side, you're not. And what
were they describing, you know, before you know this film
was done, is they were describing a box with very

(23:26):
distinct vertical, you know, delineation, and as soon as you
stepped you know, past that delineation, your heats signature is
completely obliterated.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, that's what it seems like because that person was
not moving. The two the two seemed like that they
were moving and then they disappeared, but it wasn't. And
then the one person was just standing there and then boom,
right here they just come out of nowhere and you
can see them emerging. Yeah, you can see them kind
of like almost rematerializing, almost see see that what guy

(24:01):
is coming out?

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, and you say, how bright their heat signature is?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, immediately bright like that. Like if it was really
far in a distance, like this entity is right here,
it would it would come in to focus more at
the closer that the entity or the person got to
the Fleer camera, right, so it looked like a dot
or a spec further away, and then as they got closer,

(24:30):
it would shape more and get more defined.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
And you see in the heat signature you're looking at
now in that little group of trees that's kind of
broken up because that's looking through bulliage in trees, but
their heat signature wasn't broken up, was like and then
completely gone.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, all right, now, let's watch the recreation here because
I think this is you know, really proves what was
going on.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
And forgive me for the jerkiness of their creation. I
was trying to run two pieces of equipment at the
same time, so it was a little challenging with two tripods,
So just to forgive me on that. Yeah, And you
notice that the team will be approaching a bunch of

(25:20):
bushes and they deliberately go behind that, and even when
they go behind that thick vegetation, you still can see
their heat signature. And this was during the day, and
so their heat signature should have been able to be
obscured easier because the ambient temperature is closer to the

(25:41):
temperature of the human body. But we were not able
to completely obliterate and you can see how wide open
that is. And that was taken during the same time
of year that the original box video or portal video
was taken. And you can see how sparse vegetation is
there in the background as it goes up the ridge.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, how far would they have to walk up the
ridge in order to disappear off of the fleot Okay,
so you can see right here, they would have to
walk up this little ridge here.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh and even if.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
The camera was you know, it would be almost impossible
for three people to walk in the straight line up
this ridge right being covered by one tree.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Right, you know, and one of the larger trees you
see is if you look to the left, you'll see
a downed tree. And just to the left of that
down tree, you'll see a vertical tree. That's one of
the larger trees, you know, on the edge of the meadow,
on the north end of the meadow. And you know,
if you had basically two guys get real real friendly
with one another and bunch up behind it, like you said,

(26:52):
stacked on one another, yeah, you could hide behind that tree.
But three people, you know there, it's just not going
to happen. And you know something else is, you know,
we have the affidavits from everybody there there was no chicanery,
There was no trickery. You know, these were just you know,
people experiencing something very extraordinary.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
So how long do you think that it would take
to get let's say that this was the frame right,
this was the frame that it was on. The camera
didn't move. How long do you think that it would
take the walk to the bottom of this redge right
here to completely get out of frame of this camera.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well, just past where the individuals are now behind them,
there's like a swampy area, so they would have to
fight their way through that swamp and then they would
hit the bottom of the ridge and it would probably
take you maybe five ten minutes because that's pretty steep
to fight your way up that ridge.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
So basically impossible in the amount of time. Yeah, yeah,
it was running for them to get out of frame
of the camera.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. And it would have to be perfect.
You know, they couldn't slip, they couldn't step to one
side or the other. It would have to be a perfect,
highly coordinated, you know effort between not only the individuals
but the cinematographer. And you know, so this was actually
this this footage was featured on the Discovery channel and

(28:25):
was sent to three separate analysts, and the best the
analytic because analysts could come up with was inconclusive. Is
you know, they couldn't detect any hoaxing that they really
don't know what happened that caused the heat signature of
the individuals to disappear.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, I'm trying to rack my brain too, and I
was trying to rack it ever since that I've seen
this footage in twenty twenty and there's not any good
real explanation as to what happened right now whenever they
were inside of this let's you know, call it a portal,

(29:07):
or when they disappeared what did they say happened in
what was around ninety seconds, but that they disappeared off
of the fleer. It happened in the ninety seconds that
we can.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
And we had this. Uh we actually did a video
after action review that night right after this happened. And
that's the transcript of that is in my first book.
And they talk about going into this thing and they,
like I said, they walked in unencumbered. You know, they
just walked in without any difficulty. The temperature dropped, which

(29:43):
is very important. It was like it was like the
environment was different. It was like they were inside of
a black bag or a inside of blackout curtains, you know,
like you would have in the theater. You know, it
was like very dark, you know, like they were inside
of some sort of dark encapsulation. They couldn't see the sky,

(30:05):
they couldn't see anything around them, was completely dark, very quiet,
and you know, they just felt a sense of stillness.
Then they turned around and came back. You know, discretion
was the better part of Valors, so they decided to
work their way back out, and when they did, they started,
you know, running into branches and brambles that were not

(30:27):
there when they took the same route going in that
they took out. So it's like the world was different
inside of this little bubble, but instead of being a bubble,
it was a cube, and the world started shifting back
to the normal reality, you know, right there in the
edge of the meadow when they came back out. So

(30:48):
it's like you had two quantum realities existing, except but
not on a quantum scale, on a macro scale. And
you know, that's not the first time that happened that
we've had, you know, two realities existing at the same
time in the meadow, and I go back to the
twenty sixteen episode of you know, one of our team
members being seen turn into a ball of energy, you know,

(31:09):
and travel you know, tens of yards, you know, in
a few seconds. And then when the thermal was brought
back on him, he turned back into a man's size
heat signature, but he had no recollection of moving that
distance at that speed. His recollection was he just walked
over there normally. So it's like two realities existing at

(31:29):
the same time at the same place. So, you know,
in my book, I call that kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
You know, it's definitely really interesting. So did whenever they
went into this thing, into this other reality or went
through this portal, did they realize that something had changed means?
And then they were like, we got to get out
of this. Let's turn around and go back the exact

(31:54):
same way.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah. Yeah, we were concerned about, right, And I don't
mean to make this sound melodramatic, so forgive me if
it sounds like it. But you know, one of the
things that we were joking about when we were approaching
that thing is who had the larger life insurance policy
and whose families could survive longer if we didn't come

(32:17):
back out. You know, I don't mean to make a
sound heroic and everything. It's just something we were kind
of joking about because we really didn't know what was
on the other side of that vertical you know, that
imaginary vertical line that the other team had described. You know,
that was the edge of the box. And you know,

(32:40):
we kind of in the back of our mind is like,
you know, what if we don't come back out, you know,
and maybe that wasn't you know, looking back when in retrospect,
you know, we probably shouldn't have done that without some
protocols in place, you know, safety protocols, But yet we

(33:01):
did it anyway. And I was going to say, we
lived a tale of tale some of us lived, so
you know, there you go.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, it's very similar to what people describe when they
have survived the missing For one one stuff, it's the
same type of thing they that they talked about when
they would shift into this completely different reality. Things were
very disorienting. They didn't know where they were. It was
like the environment had completely changed, like they were in

(33:35):
a separate reality. And then the people that survived managed
to get out of that separate reality in some kind
of way. I really think that the survivors of the
so called missing for one one or some of the
most interesting ones, because it gives an idea of exactly

(33:57):
what was going on, and you can talk to the
person and be like, hey, what exactly happened? And that
gives you an idea of what might have happened to
the people that didn't survive.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Right, And you know, it probably wouldn't surprise you that
this is within about fifty miles of one of those
clusters that David Polid's you know, has come up with.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, and it is very very because whenever I seen this,
I was like, holy crap, what is what is this?
What is it? And I was like, wow, this is
incredible footage. But we have some other footage here. We
have a figure that you were talking about earlier, that
the Bob's Zoom figure. This is the entity that kind

(34:44):
of splits into two right them, there's two of them. Now,
that's not the that's not the enhanced foot example. Enhanced

(35:07):
that was just the raws watched the one more.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Time and that was pretty much in the location where Daryl,
who was the original person, we were sitting very high
up on a ridge looking down, and that's in the

(35:32):
same location where Daryl had said he saw a box
on his thermal, you know, a cube sitting in the meadow,
and then Bob picked up these whatever these are h
on his thermal in the same area. So you know,
are the cubes used for perhaps transportation, you know, a

(35:53):
way that you know, something can move from one realm
to another. Uh, you know, makes you wonder.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, absolutely, And here we have the enhanced version that
you get a better idea of what exactly is going
on here. Boom split in the two that's wild.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, And not long after that, the two heat signatures
that did not correspond with any team members were seen
in the small group of trees about forty yards from
where we were filming or the team was filming the
box video portal video. So you know, are these the
things that walked over there? And were they observing us
as we you know, entered into the cube. So I

(36:50):
don't know it would make sense.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Whereabouts was this taken in the meadow?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
That was taken on the extreme west end of the meadow,
so it was probably uh, i'd say maybe four hundred
feet west of where the cube was four or five
hundred feet.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
And Bob took this footage. Yeah, Bob Wilson, and he's
the one that went into the portal and yeah, passed away.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
You remember meeting Bob there in Laughlin.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, this one is super fascinating. Didn't you guys have
one with They had like a some kind of big
footage as well.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, we had one. It was uh, once again Bob.
He recorded a heat signature that was actually colder than
the surroundings. And it was like a large, hulking figure
with a head basically sitting right on his shoulders, with
these long, kind of sinewy arms, just kind of standing there,

(38:04):
you know, in the woodline, doing this back and forth.
And what's interesting is that it was colder than the surroundings,
which doesn't make sense for a hot blooded creature. And
we've been in other locations away from the meadow where
likewise we have filmed uh, you know, cryptids, you know,

(38:26):
bigfoot like creatures that are colder than the ambient surroundings,
which does not make sense for any kind of primate,
but it does make sense for something that might be
winking in and out of existence.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, that's what I really liked about the documentary was
one of the individuals in the documentaries thought that he
had seen.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Oh don't get don't give it away, don't give the
ending away, Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, but it was yeah, yeah, the.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I mean, I just kind of like that aspect of
it because it's like, you know, there's something that because
I've had things like that happen to me before that
has been very devastating and detrimental.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah to me, you know, yeah, what I thought was interesting,
and you know, I was I was not expecting it
at all. And I'll just I'm going to put this
little teaser out there for everybody, is somebody saw something
that turned out not to be what they thought it was,
and I'll just leave it at that. But yet, the Meadow,

(39:37):
in true Meadow fashion, has a way of letting you
know that it's still in the game. Whatever the entity
or entities are that are affiliated or associated with the
Meadow have a way of letting you know that they're
still here, you know, and they're not going to let
you get away without knowing that. So I'll just I'll
throw that out there.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yes, We'll leave it at that. And I also have
some other footage of UAP. Now, yeah, this was captured
more recently, right, I think you sent this to me
separate from the other ones from.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
A couple of years. Yeah, I did. That was to do.
That was in February of twenty one. Place. Yeah, a
place called Stephen's Lake and that's the that's the cover name.
That's not the real name of the place, but it's uh,
it's probably about four miles from the meadow, and you know,
we had set up a SkyWatch in that area and
they caught these, uh, these really interesting UAPs. And you know,

(40:33):
if you'll play it, I'll just kind of walk people
through it. Yeah, and uh, I'll take a look at it.
So we're looking at what we're looking at of these
two flashing lights, which you see are kind of in
the upper uh upper part and then right above the
tree line. These lights were so stationary that I originally
thought they were antennas that I for some reason had

(40:54):
not noticed, you know, on all the years I've been
going there. But they're very slowly dropping down below the horizon,
moving at a forty five degree angle to right below
the horizon, and they're blinking on and off. Now, I
had a set of ten X binoculars when this was
taken with a psionics on night vision camera. But I

(41:14):
had a pair of ten X binoculars, and when you
look at each individual blinking light, it's actually a series
of two lights next to one another, blinking on off,
on off, on off, And the weird thing about it
is you can see they're slowly dropping below the horizon.
We had been seeing aircraft all evening and so we

(41:36):
were very familiar with, uh, you know, the the navigation
and has anti collision lights on an aircraft, you know,
the greener red navigation lights, the white marker strobes on
the wingtips, the red anti collision light you know, on
the underside and upper side of an aircraft. And through
the ten X binoculars, none of those other beacons were observable.

(41:57):
There were just a series of white flight lights, almost
like headlights you know, in the in the sky, just
blinking on and all. And so I'm also a moof
on field investigator, and so I, you know, put on
my movef on if I had and I did a
bit an analysis of this, and I could not find

(42:17):
any air traffic that corresponded. I knew the exact latitude
and longitude of my location. I took a compass out
and I shot a direct asthmuth of exactly where these were,
so I knew, you know, exactly where they were, how
many degrees above the horizon. And I could find no
corresponding air traffic. I could not find any corresponding light

(42:38):
pattern of a known aircraft that did not have the
anti collision rotating beacon or the the green and red
navigation lights. And so you know, I've got some friends
in mof on that are you taking a look at
this to see if they can maybe decipher exactly what
it was we saw. And it's interesting to note that

(42:59):
this area, uh there are this region has a very
very rich history of a UFO and UFP sidings h
So you know, this just falls right in with the
history of the area.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
So no satellites. This couldn't be satellites because sometimes I
you know, people think that it's a UFO and it's
really a satellite or kind of aircraft. But you're right,
whenever you're looking through military grade night vision goggles and
something that's blinking multiple different lights, then it's definitely an aircraft.

(43:32):
But we can just be blinking one solid light.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Well, and on a satellite, what you're actually seeing is
as a satellite moves across the sky horizon to horizon.
And what's interesting is these appeared high in the sky
and drop below the horizon, where if a satellite or
aircraft is approaching you, it will start below the horizon,
come above you, and then drop on the horizon behind you.

(43:57):
And these just appeared up in the sky, just all
of a sudden, appeared out of nowhere and then drop
below the horizon. A satellite as it moves from horizon
to horizon is usually a steady light because it's reflecting
sunlight off the body of the satellite. It doesn't actually
have a strobe or a blinking light on it. Uh. Now,
sometimes you'll get it as it rotates, you might get
like an a arrhythium flare or something. But uh, you know,

(44:19):
these lights were constant, you know, like they were they
were engineered and had a purpose to blink at that
particular rate. Now what that purpose is I really don't know,
but uh it was one, you know. And I just
put this out there for people, you know, when I
go and give the lecture, I say, this is what
I saw. You know, these are the tools I used
to uh try to figure out what it was. You know,
I looked at all the air traffic in that region.

(44:41):
You know, nothing corresponded, you know at that uh that
you know that particular place. It was moving unlike stars,
because you can see the stars are stationary and uh so,
you know, I just have to put this up as unidentified,
which is what an unidentified a flying object is.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
It's really interesting. It almost looks like some stranger things,
stuff like whenever she would put up the the lights
to communicate with the upside down and all the lights
going off right, it kind of seems.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Like And what I thought was still weird about that
is that the two things stayed constantly constant distance between
one another. You know, they just moved in tandem, you
slowly below the horizon and then disappeared.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
How long were you out there filming those?

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Uh? You know, I filmed them for about five or
six minutes until they dropped below the horizon. But, like
I said, what really brought it to my attentions. I'm
sitting there, you know, with my camera and everything set up,
and what we were originally looking for were flashes or
orbs above the lake because there had been a lot
of reports of flashes of lights and deep in the
forest and orbs. And then you know, I looked at

(45:58):
I see these blinking lights of like, well, that's kind
of weird. I don't remember there being a you know,
a tall radio antenna, you know, in all these years,
I've never noticed that. That's strange. And then you know,
the more I sat there and I watched, and I'm like,
that seems to be moving. So I moved my camera
up and actually, you know, started recording and you know,
you know, much like I thought, they you know, slowly moved,

(46:20):
you know, down below the horizon. So I you know,
that's just a big question mark.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Does anybody live on this property or are there any
on the property?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
No, No, it's a it is a public nature preserve,
so there are no there's no private property here. It's
there's nobody that lives there.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Was this Native American land that I.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Won't tell you. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
That's really interesting. Is there any other type of history
that went on here?

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, that that area has a very rich history of conflict,
you know, between primarily between Native American tribes, and there
was some conflict between US forces and settlers and Native
American tribes and I'm not going to go into the
history because that will get the location away. But yeah,

(47:19):
there's there's a history conflict. You go back and you
look at the folkloric history of this area. You know,
there's a lot of old ghost stories, there's stories of
wild men in the woods, which was a way that
the early reporters used to describe Bigfoot as families of
wild men. And then of course UAPs and UFOs and

(47:39):
uh so you know, and encryptids, So yes, kind of
you know. The model I use is if you see
an area that has a rich history of UFOs, a
rich history folkloric history of ghost stories, and of a
rich history of reports of cryptids, and you see a
concentration that's somewhere where you probably got to look, you're

(48:00):
more likely than not find some really strange stuff going
on there.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
How close is the closest town to this Is it
kind of far away?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, it's it's about fifteen or twenty miles, depending on
what route you take, so it takes you about forty
minutes fifty minutes to get into town.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
So what would this area be used for if there's
like do people go up there in camp?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
And yeah, you know, camping, hunting, you know, logging, you know,
the entity that owns this property, you know, we'll issue
out timber consignments, you know, to companies, so they'll come
in there and log it every once in a while.
So it's you know, it's basically an area for public use,

(48:54):
which is a very wide, you know, wide umbrella public
being not only you know, you and me going out
there to camp, but also you know, natural resources like
logging and things like that.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Have you guys had any like hitchhiker effect stuff going on?

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Your investigation team have you experienced.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, some of the strangest stuff. And I'm going to
try to look up these photographs while I'm talking to you.
Probably the strangest thing that happened to me is not
too far from where I'm sitting right now, maybe only
thirty five yards is I was out toodling around one
day and there's a place that I can't get grass

(49:37):
to grow. And I looked down at the ground and
there were a series of canine tracks. And the canine tracks,
you know, were kind of interesting, But what really made
them stand out is they were six inches in diameter.
Now that's larger than you know, one of the largest

(49:58):
wolves in North America. That's more like di dire wolf
kind of stuff. You know, huge canine tracks of six
inches just you know, a few yards from my back door.
And what gets even stranger is these canine tracks start
at a very distinctive place and then end at a

(50:19):
very distinctive place. So it's a finite track line, and
the track line looks almost bipedal. And what's you know
where you start throwing kind of a twist into that
is you go back and you look at some of
the accounts of people that have encountered other things in
areas of high strange and it's like Skinwalker ranch is

(50:41):
they talk about large canine type creatures not only seen
at the ranch, but following them home. There was a
case of one of the original Knids investigators National Institute
for Discovery Science going back home in Virginia and in
his suburban Virginia backyard, his family reported seeing large upright canines.

(51:06):
And you also go back and look at like Marley Woods,
and the people that you know research Marley Woods and
the people that live in that area talk about seeing
large upright canines. And so there seems to be some
sort of nexus between dog men. And I'm just gonna
use that term because it's you know, bipedal and has

(51:27):
feet like a dog. Uh, you know, and these instances
of high strangeness. And I'm trying to find the picture
of the track line because it's it's pretty cool. Oh
there we go. Okay, I'm gonna show first, I'm gonna
show a picture of the track and this is a
six inch forensic rule that I keep in my camera bag.

(51:50):
So i'm gonna see if y'all can see that.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
That's a big print.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
That's a big print. Now i'm gonna show you the
track line, and that's a thirty six inch rule. M
So it starts in a very distinctive place and ends
in a very distinctive place. And my dog is a

(52:21):
ninety five pound boxer mix, so he's a he's a
big boy, and his prints aren't nearly as deep and
as large as those.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
I'd have to come from like a really big.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
A big animal, big animal. Yeah, yeah, so you know
that you take that into account with, you know, like
the giant wolf being seen at the Sherman ranch when
it was owned by the Shermans and they shot at
it and the thirty out six you had no effect
on this large wolf type creature they saw. And then
you go back to the NIZZ investigator when Bigelow owned

(52:59):
the place, you know, seeing these large canines in the backyard. Uh.
And then you have my account and then you go
up to like land between the lakes and all the
very rich uh you know folklore of uh, you know,
a large canine type bipedal creature up there. You know
there's something about these uh, these these bipedal canines and

(53:20):
high strangeness. You know, now, is it an avatar? Is
it a uh you know, a arc type you know
that is in our collective consciousness. You know, I don't know,
but there seems to be a uh, you know, some
sort of correlation. And that's the kind of you know,
hitchhiker stuff that I've had. Now in my second book,
I talk about uh one of our team members who

(53:42):
after the portal incident, she started having dreams of orbs
coming into her room. Now, we're lucky enough to have
a a psychotherapist on our staff where the anomo studies
an observation group, and he he took her and put
her under a hypnotic regression. You know you're thinking, I
think Bud Hopkins and John Mack kind of stuff. So
he put her under hypnotic regression, and what came out

(54:02):
of that is these these things would come in through
her window and would grab her feet, and then she
had a large entity standing next to her by the
bed trying to pull her off the bed. And she
would wake up with marks on her body, like scratches
and actual marks, and the entity that stood above her bed.

(54:23):
She recounts it as being like an witch or an
old woman, which is interesting because you go back into
the folklore and you hear about the folklore of the
old crone, and a really good example of that is
a Russian folklore of Bobba Yaga, you know, the witch
who lives in the woods in a house on chicken legs.
You know, she was the archetypical you know, old crone,

(54:45):
you know of the forest. So you know that was
actually happening at her house, so you know, she had
something follow her home. So and we've had other filmmakers
come out there that refuse to come back to the
meadow because things have followed them. Absolutely, yes, you know,
the Hitchhocker effect is live and well at the meadow.

(55:11):
Oh you're all mute.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
And do that once at least once for.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Sure, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
It sounds very similar to a lot of the other
ranches and a lot of other experiences that people have
claimed to have happened, you know, sort of like White
Katie Page, the Colorado Ranch and oh absolutely, well have
you know explained with you know, Skinwalker Ranch. Now, I

(55:42):
don't know how big I am on regression. Do you
think regression is real?

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I don't think it's real. In the fact that your
hypnosis has been used to help people remember things that
they have forgotten and don't even think about, you know,
you know, UFOs and all of that stuff. They just
think about people that have been an accident or have
had traumatic events that their brain has put a block

(56:09):
in front of them to protect, you know, their psyche
from post traumatic stress syndrome or you know, something like that,
and through hypnotic aggression, they've been able to pull that,
you know, pull those memories back out, put them into
the forefront, and help people deal with that trauma.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
You know, hypnotic progression has has been invaluable you know,
in psychiatric active treatment of individuals who have gone through
trauma or other very meaningful events. So you know, you
take that and you look at it through the optics of,
you know, would it be beneficial through somebody who went
through a traumatic event, you know, the abduction phenomena. You know,

(56:46):
I have to take it on face value. There are
people that, you know, we count these experiences. There are
people that you know, have some sort of you know,
anecdotal evidence of these experiences. So I can't just discount
them completely. And it's so widespread, So you know, I think,
you know, I have to put some value in hypnotic
progression or else we wouldn't have used it, you know,

(57:08):
as one of the tools in our toolbox.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I just feel like whenever there's money involved, like people
will just do They'll just say whatever you want them
to say. Right, Like if you had a if you
wanted to get a regression because you thought that you
were abducted by aliens, right, alien regressionists, and they're going
to tell you that you were abducted by aliens. That's
essentially what you're paying them to do. Right, Because you

(57:31):
felt like that you were abducted by aliens and you
went to an alien abductionist, regressionist and then they told
you that you were abducted by aliens. So it's like
this this money transfer thing and any can it's exactly
like kind of what you talked about in one of
our very first shows that we ever did. And I've
used this a lot when talking about things like this,

(57:52):
Like if you take a paranormal investigator to go investigate
the paranormal, then they're nine times out of ten they're
going to find the paranormal, right right. You take a
bigfoot investigator out to that exact same place, then nine
times out of ten they're going to come back and
say that is bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
If you take a UFO investigator out to that exact
same place, then guess what they're going to come back with.
They're going to come back and say that it's aliens,
right right. So our preconceived notions a big role in
a lot of this stuff. So it almost seems like
whatever it is that you're into is whatever it is

(58:29):
that you're going to find.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
And that's something we are very careful about, you know,
And are we perfect with it? No, we're not perfect,
but we try very hard not to front load our
experiences and our hypnotherapist is a licensed professional counselor you know,
a psychoanalyst, and he does this for a living, but
not not with a UFO centric focus or anything of

(58:53):
that on his practice. And we went with these hypnotic regressions,
hypnotic regressions with the idea of just let it go
where it goes. You know, if it turns out to
be absolutely nothing, hey, fine, that's that's absolutely cool. If
it turns out to be something, then maybe it's another
piece of the puzzle. Uh. And we did not go

(59:14):
in to these particular this particular regression, you know, with
the idea of an abduction phenomena. But yet you know,
as it you know, as it matured, you know, the uh,
the series of regressions, it starts to look like that.
Now am I saying that's what it was. That's not
what I'm saying. But you know the old analogy. If

(59:36):
it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck,
you know, and has web feet, it might very well
be a duck. So you know, people can take that,
you know, with a grain of salt and do with
it what they will. I think you're muted again, And I.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Got a lot of stuff going on in the background,
people are preparing for dinner. So I'm just trying to
I'm sorry that they're that no extra noise comes through.
That's just my personal opinion on you know, regression. That's
just what I that I believe on regression. I think,
if you know, people are being paid to do something,

(01:00:18):
then they're going to end up finding that thing that
they're ready to do, regardless if it actually happened or not.
And I'm not saying that everybody does that because regression
has been used for a really long time in a
therapeutical sense.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
In our in our therapist is pro bono. You know,
he's part of our team, so he you know, noting
no money exchanges hands.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Good. That's good to hear. It's actually really good to
hear it because, like I said, bro, like, if if
you're going to it an alien abduction regressionists and you're
paying that alien reduction regressionists three hundred dollars, yeah, like
they're going to tell you that, Yeah, you you saw
the Grays, you were abducted, you were on the ship,

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you got hybrid children. They milked your milk, your seed,
or took you you know what I mean, took your
eggs and you had all this stuff going on, right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah. He actually our guy actually loses money because you know,
our folks are in his office taking up his time,
you know, where you could have paying patience. So yeah,
that's that's a good That's a very good point though,
is you know people will you know, they want to
give you know, if you pay for a steak, they
don't want to give you hamburger. They want to give
you a steak.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
That's right. Yeah, could you imagine like that that's the
way that it worked, Like if you just you know,
you're you're paying for a service and then you got
a completely different service.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Yeah, well Tray, thanks so much for coming on. Brother.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Oh yeah, wow, that went by quick.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah, I went by really quickly. The uh yeah, we're
kind of we're doing Thanksgiving dinner early this year, so
we're not doing it on Thanksgiving, so we're doing it today.
That's why I got my sweater on man things sweater.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I thought you dressed up for me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Maybe I did, Maybe I did. Maybe some train things
seem to align. Synchronicities all coming to the other right now,
could you let people know where they can find your
books and where they can watch the documentary one more time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, uh, you can go to my uh my, my
personal web page. That's Trey Hudson Research dot com and
they have the links to everything on there. But I'll
break the links down individually. Book number one The Metal
Project and book number two Return to the Meadow or
both on Amazon dot com. You just type my name
Trey Hudson into the search bar and those books will
pop up there, available in all the formats. The film,

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both The Metal Project and the add on documentary Helm
and Lens are available at Merklefilms dot com and just
click on that and there that's there for purchase. I'm
really happy with the film. Everybody that's seen it, you know,
uh you know, really really seem to like it. So,
you know, I just ask that people, uh you go
out there and take a look at these and I

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always recommend people if they the full Meadow Project experience
is read both the books and see the film and
you'll get a much more uh you know, depth of
understanding of exactly what we're dealing there, and you're you're
you know, buying these films and books helps us with
the research because we're completely self.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Funded, absolutely always try and tell people to support independent
people and their work and support these giant corporations that
have all this backing and stuff, because it's the only
way that we can continue to go forward. So whenever
I bring people on that are making movies, whenever I'm
making movies, and you know, it's time to support those people.

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So the link is in the description to watch the
documentary and highly recommended. It is a really good experience.
Highly enjoyed it. And in the footage. Some of the
footage that we showed today is in the documentary, not
all of it, so you kind of got a sneak
peek there of some things that weren't shown. But more importantly,

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