January 28, 2025 • 34 mins
Today show is hosted by Evie and she sits down with her Friend Bronxpapito and speaks about the changes that AI (artificial intelligence) has done in the Music field.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Throughout time, I've seen many different people, people who like
all kinds of music.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All check this out. We've got a great show coming
your way today.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I've learned that music is what feelings sounds like. Follow
me on my journey to discover new.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Music, new styles, and new people.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Welcome. This is Real Talk, Real Music here on the
LDM radio station.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Hey, everybody, all on me hinted, this is your girl, Evy.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Welcome to another.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Episode of Real Talk, Real Music here on the LDM
Radio How are you, guys? I hope you're doing great
and ready for my special guest today. He's a social
media influencer. He's a TikToker, but a well known person
and a great human being. Please welcome my good friend
(01:06):
Mike McCall aka brons Pappito.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
How are you good?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Ev Thank you for joining me, Thank you for inviting
me definitely, Oh.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Thank you so much for you know, being in the
show today. You know, it's just music is life, Music
is love.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's the cure, exactly, it's the cure.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
You're all righty, And it's being threatened by AI, you know.
And I was just wondering, what is your intake on
the How AI is transforming the music industry right now.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I don't think it's actually a threat to the music industry.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I actually believe that it is helping artists to create
new music, to produce new music and bring out new
mixed to the music.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And you know, it's just.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
An extra tool, a new technology just to come in,
just like any technology that has came before.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I know, but it's I mean, it's changed in the
world unexpectedly.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
It is changing the world. Do you think that it
it would.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Make the artist or the writer or even the producer.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Less valuable.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
No, it wouldn't. It wouldn't make it less valuable. What
would What it would do is like it's just like
going to supermarket. You go to supermarket and you want
to buy bread. You buy bread, you know what I'm saying.
And there's a whole bunch of breads out there and
they already be made and slice that made for you.
But you, as an artist, you like to make your
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own bread. So you know, you create your own you
know ingredients, you create your dough, you bake it and
put it in there, and you put it out and
you got this big loaf of bread.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Don't you think that.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
People would assume or even will start thinking, Okay, why
are you using AI?
Speaker 5 (03:06):
You're not talented?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Are you not sure of yourself that you can sit
down and pin down a song or create beats or
or come up I mean, you know, because I know
it helps.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But people would people will think of it like that,
But it's not because, like I said, you cannot take
away the raw emotions of a human being, you know
what I'm saying, which an AI can do. A human
being could actually put their feelings and emotions into a
song to relate to people as well.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
AI could only generate what's there.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
But wouldn't it change or threaten your brand?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
No, there's certain things where say you have your save,
you come up with a logo or.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Some type of you know, children's story. Say say it's
a children's story.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And you want to come up with an idea and
do a theme song for that kid's story, and you
park the computer of what you want and it's going
to generate that, right. But in reality, what's the problem
with that is there's no licensing and there's no copywritten
on it. Anybody could take it. Anybody could take the sound,
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now you know what I'm saying. That's the only difference.
But as an artist, if you create your own music
and create your own sound and your.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Own theme to that song, you are able to.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Copyright it and nobody could take it from you and
you can't own it.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
But at the end of the day, you know, a
lot of us, you know, were into very We actually
speculate and we printpoint like, oh, well, you know you're not.
You don't know how to sing live, for example, you
don't know how to how to write, you don't know
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how to produce. You you you use autotone. There is
always always something with the music industry. There's always somebody
nickpicking about anything that you do as a producer, as
an artist. Do you think that this all you know,
the composition or like the tools that we use are
being affected by it?
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Because I think that they are. People are going to
start thinking, well, you're a fake, simple simple.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
As that you're fake because you're using tools, you're using
other things.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
You're using robots, you're using.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Computers or anything you know, just to do for being lazy,
not to sit down and spend the time and and
write and and people making that thing.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
People would consider that it's taking a shortcut and doing
it right of course, everybody's gonna think it's going to
be a shortcut to do it. But like I said,
when again, you can't take away the raw emotions from
what a real composer, a real conductor does. He will
take that advice or you know, whatever sample the AI
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will generate, but it's up to him if he needs
to tweak it. And he gots to prompt the computer,
the AI, the the you know exactly what he wants
to hear. It's gonna take a little time to get
the right sound and the right way he wants it,
but the AI is not going to give it to
him directly like that, you know what I'm saying. Just
like any artists, even film artists, anybody who wants to
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create their own thing, they gotta come out of them,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
But wouldn't it.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Be also, you know, like reliance and technology so much,
then you're gonna lose your identity. I don't, don't you,
because then you're gonna become a little I'm gonna be honest,
and you're gonna become lazy. And it's like, hey, listen,
I'm just gonna input I'm feeling.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Something the way today.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Let me, just input it into our AI and he'll
come up with something and our story and this and that, because.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
We've seen it with podcasts. We've seen it with shows.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You just imput whatever little things that you want to
talk about, and they will actually make the whole structure
of the.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Podcast, of the show itself.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
You didn't have to do anything, ye wouldn't it be
like people will feel, really, what technology did it not you?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, I think the technology will do to me. This
is what the technology will create. It's going to actually create,
say the Jackson Fives, say the Jackson five, y you
know most of them.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Have de cease.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Now, you know they won't be able to generate and
mimic exactly what the Janet Jackson Fives did, but bring
it to today and create a whole new sound and
a new song that the Jackson Fries did even thought
nobody created.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
But guess you know what now that you mentioned the
Jackson five, you know the Beatles did it?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Did it?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The Beatles?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
You know they're already experiment mental with artificial intelligence, you
know the new song uh now? And then they use
AI to bring unreleased demo recording by late John Lennon
like so it's just, you know, it's kind of I
don't know, it's it's a good thing, like I could
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understand even And also when they when in Houston, they
did a whole you know, concert based on AI. They
use image of her and it was a concert of
her her singing.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yes, but this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's able to generate that, it's able to bring back
certain things and and signature movements and signature sounds. It's
going to bring it back of anything.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
You reshaping the whole creative It's.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Just going to reshape the creative minds and just make
everybody understand. Hey, listen, we could do this, like you know,
we could bring Frank Sinatra back and bring him into
the twenty first century, you know, so we could do
that and give him a new sound and a new look.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
You know, we could do that.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But it's not going to actually be the same feeling
as seeing Frank Sinatra performed in real life.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Right now. It's true, it's true. But do you think
that you know a lot of using AI.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
You know, musicians and songwriters have the power to generate
content in seconds. Do you think that is it's we're
moving on a fast pace in the music industry.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Everybody wants to be stay relevant.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Everybody wants to, you know, throw out the best new
song they want to. But isn't it AI contributing to
like a fast pace, Like it's just rushing into things.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Oh no, it could create and general great new songs
and certain parts of songs and can't do that.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
It's able to generate anything at once, but.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's not going to move as fast as possible because they,
like I said, it's not going to be able to.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Catch up to human emotions.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
That's definitely, But I mean everybody's rushing.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I mean even even you know, many of artists are
like coming out with songs and like a month later
they got a new song.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Now is it? Is it?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You know?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I think that it's making it too easy.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I remember back in the day, anybody could come out
with an album and the album would be at least
a year or year almost two years for something else
for them to write.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
At that time, you had producers, and you had managers,
and you had promoters, and you had sound you had
a sound crew and so everything had it been generated
like that.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Now it's just generated in one section.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But the problem, like I said, with that is Now,
if you come up with a sound or whatever it is,
anybody can steal the sound. It's not copyrighten. So that's
the only problem about it. Anybody can steal the sound.
So if you want to get any type of revenue
or get some type of royalties off of it, you
gotta do the sound yourself and put your.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Passion into it and get copyrighten.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
It's just it's I just feel that, you know, music
is just not as before because I remember before, like
the Egos, like when they came out with their album,
it's like legendary. I mean the album, every all the
songs are great, and it just transpires it through. It's timeless,
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and it's like I feel that anything that is made
now it's hot for a couple of months, it's hot,
it's popping everybody, you know, everybody that's like, hey, that's
the song, you know, but then it's forgotten and then
another artist comes up with one hit wonder and the
same thing. So it's just like I'm not feeling like
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a time, I haven't felt songs that have in the
last maybe five years, seven to five to seven years
that have that I can say, Okay, they're gonna be timeless.
I don't know, like Michael Jackson. You know Michael and
and and you know like.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That, Michael is always going to be Eryl.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Smith until I mean, these are songs that we go
to karaoke bars and and and we even have fun
at home and we're still like, oh my god, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Songs.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Michael Jackson's music is always be timeless. He's like a
pop culture is always going to remember and no matter what,
no matter what conspiracy he's been through or anything, his
music is never going to be removed from the pop culture.
It's it's into So his music and his passion for
music is what kept it alive AI or not.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Right now, you could create a song from AI.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And it be a Michael Jackson I bet you will
be as timeless as his last songs has been. But definitely,
there haven't been songs in the past five years that's
been relatable to anything like that.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
No, definitely, And then I feel like, with this old
AI situation, I'm afraid that and please let me know
what you think about. I'm afraid that we're gonna lose
the human touch because it's gonna become too easy. It's no,
it's too easy.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It sounds like that.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It sounds like that, but like I said, AI is
not up to that standard. Where like I said, they're
not going to catch the real call human emotions.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
If a human is you know what he felt when
he's singing the song, the separation of the love when
he lost or somebody, you know, they're not gonna feel
that because AI got years and years to catch up
to real human emotions.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
They could generate a song, they could generate lyrics, but
they're not gonna be able to relate to a human being.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Honestly, I'm gonna be and and maybe our audience, you know,
can come in and let us know.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
But I think it's just AI is cheap labor.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
It's cheap labor. I mean, it's like who wants to
wash dishes? Who wants to be a dishwasher? When you
can have a machine wash your dishes for you? Who's
gonna you know, but you know, let you know, cook
this or heat up when you don't have to actually
put it in and stirt the path.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
It's gonna be done automatically for you.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
What you know? This is what AI is doing to me.
How I feel is what it's doing to all composers
and all songwriters and all artists is forcing them to
be better. You know what I'm saying if if they
feel threatened, No, I don't think they feel fattened. I
feel like it puts it's putting a fire under them,
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and say, you know what, a computer can't do what
I could do, and you know what I could. Let
let the computer create what it is. You know, let
the let's see what you could build, and I will
review it and see if that's what I want.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
And I will definitely don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I don't think you should feel that.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I will feel like, wait a minute, that the computer
is doing a better job than me. I'm going to
get fired because they're gonna go and choose to work
with the computer.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
It's just like a.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Film industry. Only a film artist is is going to
be able to see things in a certain perspective. You know,
a computer is not going to be able to see
it like that. You know, so, like I said, raw
human emotions, it's not going to be replica.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
But they think that maybe because all the controversy in
the music industry right now, like with Ditty situation with
you know, with many other artists that you know, fortunately
they locked up. Yes, yes, you know, you know, and
it's and it's sad because they are so talented and
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if you think about it, you know, like if you
listen to the song, I mean, they're like endless songs
and it's just sad. Do you think that people because
of what's happening, people are more leaning towards you know,
using AI, you know, especially artists. You know, if you
want to produce a b.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Or you know, certain people will probably use it just
to learn how to produce music and use it as
a tool to learn how to produce music, and you
know it would be like a stepper stone just for
them to move forward. But you can't be places great
producers like doctor Dre or you know what I'm saying,
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even though you know it was a great music producer
himself at a time, but you can't you can't replicate that.
You can't replicate a great producer like Doctor Dre who's
dead day and night in the studios, or bringing people
in and trying to bring new artists and do that.
You can't replicate that. That's like trying to replicate Quincy Jones.
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You can't do.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
That, No, because you know, I was thinking as an
let's let's believe you know, I'm an artist.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
I mean I want to have I want to go
through that process.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I want experience going into a studio, working with a producer. Hey,
get back in the book. No, try this, this this sound,
try to move your you know, your voice, you know
the challenge of recording that that experience.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I wouldn't miss it for the world.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
No, you know, I wouldn't miss it for the world definitely.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Like you know, we all grew up knowing that, you know,
the only way to get into show businesses put your
time into the studio exactly, you know, and then be
in there and get knowledged with the with the DJ
and the engineer and you know, and the producers. You
always wanted to do that, you know, everybody wanted to
do that. But with the AI. Now is you able
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to do that from home?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Exactly?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And that you mentioned that because you're from home now
you don't even have.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
To be.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Signed and a record a big major record label.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
You can put out music anywhere, anywhere, anytime, under your.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Own under your own label.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
You get all full, you get whatever right you want
out of it. That's the only differences.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
So many social media platforms Spotify, Apple Music, Google, whatever
I Got.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Then with whatever I why radio. You know, there are
all these, all these platforms. Now you could be able
to produce your own music and put them on there
as yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
You know, before you had to look for a manager
and pay that manager to give you a promotion and
help them, have that manager help you promote your stuff
and do demos and whatever it take. And you got
to get signed to a record label and worked hard
from that record label and either you got your song
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stolen from the record label or you had an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
We know, a boy a lot of story like that.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
But you know this actually gives a lot of artists
who never got the fair shot to create music and
be able to go out there and do what they
have to do, you know, because we live in the
twenty first century where everything is growing, so you need
to learn how to adapt. Just like back in the days,
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you know, you had eight traps and then you had
you had vinyls, and then for vinyls we had MP
three players.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
You know, I remember that, you know, the whole transition
of vinyl and record labels and and the thirty fives
and then all of oh my god, now it's tapes
and they're from.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Tapes, c these sages. And then now it's like streaming online.
You don't even have even.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Phones exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
You don't even need connect your your earphones. Everything is now,
it's just technologies.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's just the technology.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
How is you know?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Even though the technology, sorry, the technology, the technology is
definitely going to continue changing and evolving through the years, but.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
The heart and soul of a composer.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Is never going to change because that person is always
going to bring that song full soul that's in his
heart or his memory or whatever it is that he
wants to generate to the world to make it relatable.
And this AI nowadays is just another two as an
a trax or CD player from back then.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
But do you think that the artist is right now
should feel threatened in the sense that you can create
an AI persona or an AI character and you can
actually make it come to life. I actually, I mean
like there's a movie I think, oh my god, I
don't even know the name.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
If anybody out there know.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
There was a movie that they made an AI actress
and the actress supposedly made this movie and she was.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Nominated for an Oscar and I mean it was a
big thing. And then at the end of the day
she was an AI. It was created.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Do you think that that artists bands should feel threatened
that this could happen?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I listen, I mean it happened when men remember back
in the day, you know it was it was something different,
but it could happen.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
What happened when you know, listen what happened when Millie
Vanilli is. It's crazy because now everybody's a lip syncing
and they just you know, I guess they were ahead
of their time. They were ahead of the time. They
were talkers before TikToker, so you know they was ahead
of their time. But you got to think about it.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
The AI right now, what it's going to do is
help them just move forward and grow because, like I said,
technology in the music industry is always going to change.
So all they got would do is roll with the
punches and as long as the the composer and the
artists prompted their computer to how they are is what
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it is. Especially how you just said that there's there
is a person out there. She was like for teen
years old, I can't remember her name right now. And
she became a billionaire using an AI, like this person
became a billionaire using the AI. And she had she
choose the AI to answer her fans. Look at that,
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you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
They answer the fans and talk and and it speaks
just like her. It sounds just like her.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
The emotions, the the anger, you know, you know, the
sarcasm that she would use is just replicated her perfectly.
That when they put her in front of herself, in
front of the she was like, what, I'm the real whatever,
you know what I'm saying, She's not mean something, you
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know what.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
They end up closing the laptop because she got even
upset knowing that this is not a real person and
I'm not having an interview with myry. I rolled by
I Come to Life or you know Terminator Genesis.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Hello, Yes, remember yeah that was a good movie. That
was a good movie. Yeah, but I would be scared.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
And I think that do you think now that you
know you as a social media influencer and you do
tik taks and you lip saying you know songs, do
you feel that the artists musicians are related are kind
of depending on all these influencers to keep their songs
alive because they actually by us influencers and I'm including myself,
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we keep the whole music alive, the whole lip saying,
the whole human part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Of course, you know, it's just it's just the simple
fact is that us reality.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Any artists should remember that.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They would have never made it there without their fans,
Sam or right man.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
They shouldn't. This is one thing they need to realize.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
They will never made it as far as they did
in the music industry without their fans and they supporters,
And without their fans and they supporters, they wouldn't have
never gotten to that that the milestone that they are,
or having that little malleble beach that they live in.
You know what I'm saying. But one thing for sure
is that they need to understand and be humbled about,
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is that these fans who's keeping their music alive, is keeping.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Them alive exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
You know why because generation changes. You know, I'm fifty
years old.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That means the people I used to listen to is
not popular now because we got new artists now and
that they relate to the younger generation.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
But you know, we we as influencers, you know, we
have to deal with these streaming platforms AIM algorithm and
I think and please let me know what you think about.
Does it affect music? The augument? Why am I getting
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talk to the people?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
You know?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
What would it be effected?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I'm always having problems when my my pronunciation listen, But
you know, wouldn't it be affecting their music just because
you know, certain one target the kind of audience they want,
but it will be like all over the place and
sometimes you know, things that they put out.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Then a lot of people know.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Well, this is what the AI is for AI. Now
since you know, say you are feast the artists and
you want to target your feast fans, the AI will
be able to generate that for your fans and generate
you know, what your fans is looking for. It will
follow that.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
AI overwhelm the listeners. What are the people looking for
content or looking for new sounds on your listen? And
it's because you know, once you get into these platforms,
I mean you scroll up and you start seeing the
same thing and the same thing, but you are looking
for some.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Wasn't it It's kind of you.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Know, I'm like, well, like I said, it's you who's
feeding the algorithm. Right, If you like this certain type
of music, that's the only music you're gonna see.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
If you like R and B, you're gonna watch R
and B. But if you're a person who's all around,
person who likes music all around, not just R and B,
not just feast out, everything all around, and you're going
to listen to that, that's what's gonna funnel through your
your stream, through your algorithm. And you know you're for
you page in anyway. You know, I'm saying, you gotta
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be a person who's all about everything, so this way
you could get all about everything. But if you just
stick to one thing, that's the only thing that's gonna
funnel through.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I mean, you know, I agree with you, you know,
and it, but I do have my research and reference
to AI just because I think that we're gonna lose ourselves,
We're gonna get lazy, and it's not the creativity is
not gonna be there. And that's my point. Like I
sometimes I think about it and it's great. It's it's
(28:13):
you know, it's not gonna take too much time. I'm
gonna be able to write a song in five minutes.
But it's just we're gonna lose it.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But this is one thing.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I know is our I know art is our technology
has it, but it's like art is so hard to
you know, truanfer, you know, to just put it out
there people to see your your talent.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
That is just it's just gonna be too easy. And
and then people are not gonna believe it.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
They're gonna be like, oh, that's technology, yeah, sure whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But like I said, certain people will only realize it
when they understand that the music wasn't generated through a
human emotion. You could tell and through the human emotion
and the human heart and the way we've been through
and the way we sacrifice, we've been through relationships, and
then we've been through all of this, and this is
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what some composers and some music put into the paper,
and that paper that they create becomes the song that
they make that's relatable to everybody else.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
A computer can't do that, and it's going to be
years before that happened.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
But I think that is what.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
But you know what, regardless of anything, can AI promote?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Can AI reach out? Can you think so?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yes, AI will reach out and promote to your fan base.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Will they make the marketing decisions right, decision of technology
of robot will be able to be like, you know what.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Let's do this, let's do that, Let's make it this way.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
No, it's just it's just going to generate the idea
for you and you see it and if you like it,
you could send it out. If you don't, you could
generate and prompt the AI to do exactly what you want.
You just have to sit there and tweak it. You
know what I'm saying. You can't tell the AI.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Help build your professional growth, help you.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It will help you.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
It won't reach your fan base, it's gonna reach your
fan base, and it's gonna reach the audience. It's also
gonna make the audience understand. Hey, listen, this is the
kind of person I want to hear. You know what
I'm saying. This is the kind of song I want.
It's gonna help you generate that.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Of course, I think that, you know, at the end
of the day, we just got to stay vigilant and
you know, at thotfel have keep still having emotions. I
mean I think that you know, we have to keep
helping each other, working with each other, being the best
that we can be and not stop creating, keep creating.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
But this is because they're gonna get lost. I think
we're gonna get lost in all this.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
You know, the AI can help autists focus on creative.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
And what's gonna happen with the individual vision going forward.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's going to help the artists focus on the creator
and not on the technology.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I think, you know, at the end of the day,
it's interesting all this talking is industry and we could
be here for hours everyone, but you know, we could
be here for hours because there's cons and there's pros,
and you know, at the end of the day, I
always say, you know, I think that everybody, we shouldn't
(31:29):
just stop creating. We should just keep going forward creating
being the best that we can be exactly, you know,
and and do what you love, do what you love.
And if you like to write, keep writing. You like
to sing, keep singing, and never give up and try
the best that you.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Can, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
And I hope that this whole technology world and that
we're going into it's just can it might facilitate it,
but it might you know, turn it into something else.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
But you know, yeah, well you know.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Like I said, as as as humans and as and
and and artists, we always adapt to the technology and
we always overcome because at the end of the day,
no matter what you do about the technology, like I said,
I started with ahrax and now we're here where AI
the technology upgrade, but the artist is hot and soul
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will always remain.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
The same, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
And at the end of the day, as we're going
to end this podcast, very interesting podcast. Think you know,
if anybody could come in and you know, let us
know what you think.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
At the end of the day, let's just not lost
our touch, our humanity, our human nature.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
So let's just you know, keep supporting, keep just creating basically,
you know. So thank you so much, Mike aka also
known as Brons.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Much. Thank you for having me great topic.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
No, definitely, definitely, and thank you so much for sitting
down with me. And I'm looking forward to having you
back in the show. There's plenty of topics that you know,
we have to discuss, and we are at the end
of the day, music lovers.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
We're passionate about it.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Of course, I mean it touches us and helps us
go through many things in our lives.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Like I said, you.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Yeah, I agree with you so but thank you so much. Yeah, definitely,
thank you guys. I hope that everything goes well with you.
I'll see you next time. You're on the Real Talk
of Music on the LBN Radio. All right, okay, take
care guys, Bye bye.
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Speaker 4 (00:37):
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Speaker 5 (00:41):
Welcome to another.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Episode of Real Talk, Real Music here on the LDM
Radio How are you, guys? I hope you're doing great
and ready for my special guest today. He's a social
media influencer. He's a TikToker, but a well known person
and a great human being. Please welcome my good friend
(01:06):
Mike McCall aka brons Pappito.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
How are you good?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Ev Thank you for joining me, Thank you for inviting
me definitely, Oh.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Thank you so much for you know, being in the
show today. You know, it's just music is life, Music
is love.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's the cure, exactly, it's the cure.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
You're all righty, And it's being threatened by AI, you know.
And I was just wondering, what is your intake on
the How AI is transforming the music industry right now.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I don't think it's actually a threat to the music industry.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I actually believe that it is helping artists to create
new music, to produce new music and bring out new
mixed to the music.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And you know, it's just.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
An extra tool, a new technology just to come in,
just like any technology that has came before.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I know, but it's I mean, it's changed in the
world unexpectedly.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
It is changing the world. Do you think that it
it would.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Make the artist or the writer or even the producer.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Less valuable.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
No, it wouldn't. It wouldn't make it less valuable. What
would What it would do is like it's just like
going to supermarket. You go to supermarket and you want
to buy bread. You buy bread, you know what I'm saying.
And there's a whole bunch of breads out there and
they already be made and slice that made for you.
But you, as an artist, you like to make your
(02:48):
own bread. So you know, you create your own you
know ingredients, you create your dough, you bake it and
put it in there, and you put it out and
you got this big loaf of bread.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Don't you think that.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
People would assume or even will start thinking, Okay, why
are you using AI?
Speaker 5 (03:06):
You're not talented?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Are you not sure of yourself that you can sit
down and pin down a song or create beats or
or come up I mean, you know, because I know
it helps.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But people would people will think of it like that,
But it's not because, like I said, you cannot take
away the raw emotions of a human being, you know
what I'm saying, which an AI can do. A human
being could actually put their feelings and emotions into a
song to relate to people as well.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
AI could only generate what's there.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
But wouldn't it change or threaten your brand?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
No, there's certain things where say you have your save,
you come up with a logo or.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Some type of you know, children's story. Say say it's
a children's story.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And you want to come up with an idea and
do a theme song for that kid's story, and you
park the computer of what you want and it's going
to generate that, right. But in reality, what's the problem
with that is there's no licensing and there's no copywritten
on it. Anybody could take it. Anybody could take the sound,
(04:26):
now you know what I'm saying. That's the only difference.
But as an artist, if you create your own music
and create your own sound and your.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Own theme to that song, you are able to.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Copyright it and nobody could take it from you and
you can't own it.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
But at the end of the day, you know, a
lot of us, you know, were into very We actually
speculate and we printpoint like, oh, well, you know you're not.
You don't know how to sing live, for example, you
don't know how to how to write, you don't know
(05:02):
how to produce. You you you use autotone. There is
always always something with the music industry. There's always somebody
nickpicking about anything that you do as a producer, as
an artist. Do you think that this all you know,
the composition or like the tools that we use are
being affected by it?
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Because I think that they are. People are going to
start thinking, well, you're a fake, simple simple.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
As that you're fake because you're using tools, you're using
other things.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
You're using robots, you're using.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Computers or anything you know, just to do for being lazy,
not to sit down and spend the time and and
write and and people making that thing.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
People would consider that it's taking a shortcut and doing
it right of course, everybody's gonna think it's going to
be a shortcut to do it. But like I said,
when again, you can't take away the raw emotions from
what a real composer, a real conductor does. He will
take that advice or you know, whatever sample the AI
(06:13):
will generate, but it's up to him if he needs
to tweak it. And he gots to prompt the computer,
the AI, the the you know exactly what he wants
to hear. It's gonna take a little time to get
the right sound and the right way he wants it,
but the AI is not going to give it to
him directly like that, you know what I'm saying. Just
like any artists, even film artists, anybody who wants to
(06:37):
create their own thing, they gotta come out of them,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
But wouldn't it.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Be also, you know, like reliance and technology so much,
then you're gonna lose your identity. I don't, don't you,
because then you're gonna become a little I'm gonna be honest,
and you're gonna become lazy. And it's like, hey, listen,
I'm just gonna input I'm feeling.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Something the way today.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Let me, just input it into our AI and he'll
come up with something and our story and this and that, because.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
We've seen it with podcasts. We've seen it with shows.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You just imput whatever little things that you want to
talk about, and they will actually make the whole structure
of the.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Podcast, of the show itself.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
You didn't have to do anything, ye wouldn't it be
like people will feel, really, what technology did it not you?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, I think the technology will do to me. This
is what the technology will create. It's going to actually create,
say the Jackson Fives, say the Jackson five, y you
know most of them.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Have de cease.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Now, you know they won't be able to generate and
mimic exactly what the Janet Jackson Fives did, but bring
it to today and create a whole new sound and
a new song that the Jackson Fries did even thought
nobody created.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
But guess you know what now that you mentioned the
Jackson five, you know the Beatles did it?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Did it?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The Beatles?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
You know they're already experiment mental with artificial intelligence, you
know the new song uh now? And then they use
AI to bring unreleased demo recording by late John Lennon
like so it's just, you know, it's kind of I
don't know, it's it's a good thing, like I could
(08:28):
understand even And also when they when in Houston, they
did a whole you know, concert based on AI. They
use image of her and it was a concert of
her her singing.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yes, but this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's able to generate that, it's able to bring back
certain things and and signature movements and signature sounds. It's
going to bring it back of anything.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
You reshaping the whole creative It's.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Just going to reshape the creative minds and just make
everybody understand. Hey, listen, we could do this, like you know,
we could bring Frank Sinatra back and bring him into
the twenty first century, you know, so we could do
that and give him a new sound and a new look.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
You know, we could do that.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But it's not going to actually be the same feeling
as seeing Frank Sinatra performed in real life.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Right now. It's true, it's true. But do you think
that you know a lot of using AI.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
You know, musicians and songwriters have the power to generate
content in seconds. Do you think that is it's we're
moving on a fast pace in the music industry.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Everybody wants to be stay relevant.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Everybody wants to, you know, throw out the best new
song they want to. But isn't it AI contributing to
like a fast pace, Like it's just rushing into things.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Oh no, it could create and general great new songs
and certain parts of songs and can't do that.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
It's able to generate anything at once, but.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's not going to move as fast as possible because they,
like I said, it's not going to be able to.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Catch up to human emotions.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
That's definitely, But I mean everybody's rushing.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I mean even even you know, many of artists are
like coming out with songs and like a month later
they got a new song.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Now is it? Is it?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You know?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I think that it's making it too easy.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I remember back in the day, anybody could come out
with an album and the album would be at least
a year or year almost two years for something else
for them to write.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
At that time, you had producers, and you had managers,
and you had promoters, and you had sound you had
a sound crew and so everything had it been generated
like that.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Now it's just generated in one section.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But the problem, like I said, with that is Now,
if you come up with a sound or whatever it is,
anybody can steal the sound. It's not copyrighten. So that's
the only problem about it. Anybody can steal the sound.
So if you want to get any type of revenue
or get some type of royalties off of it, you
gotta do the sound yourself and put your.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Passion into it and get copyrighten.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
It's just it's I just feel that, you know, music
is just not as before because I remember before, like
the Egos, like when they came out with their album,
it's like legendary. I mean the album, every all the
songs are great, and it just transpires it through. It's timeless,
(11:46):
and it's like I feel that anything that is made
now it's hot for a couple of months, it's hot,
it's popping everybody, you know, everybody that's like, hey, that's
the song, you know, but then it's forgotten and then
another artist comes up with one hit wonder and the
same thing. So it's just like I'm not feeling like
(12:10):
a time, I haven't felt songs that have in the
last maybe five years, seven to five to seven years
that have that I can say, Okay, they're gonna be timeless.
I don't know, like Michael Jackson. You know Michael and
and and you know like.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That, Michael is always going to be Eryl.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Smith until I mean, these are songs that we go
to karaoke bars and and and we even have fun
at home and we're still like, oh my god, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Songs.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Michael Jackson's music is always be timeless. He's like a
pop culture is always going to remember and no matter what,
no matter what conspiracy he's been through or anything, his
music is never going to be removed from the pop culture.
It's it's into So his music and his passion for
music is what kept it alive AI or not.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Right now, you could create a song from AI.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And it be a Michael Jackson I bet you will
be as timeless as his last songs has been. But definitely,
there haven't been songs in the past five years that's
been relatable to anything like that.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
No, definitely, And then I feel like, with this old
AI situation, I'm afraid that and please let me know
what you think about. I'm afraid that we're gonna lose
the human touch because it's gonna become too easy. It's no,
it's too easy.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It sounds like that.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It sounds like that, but like I said, AI is
not up to that standard. Where like I said, they're
not going to catch the real call human emotions.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
If a human is you know what he felt when
he's singing the song, the separation of the love when
he lost or somebody, you know, they're not gonna feel
that because AI got years and years to catch up
to real human emotions.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
They could generate a song, they could generate lyrics, but
they're not gonna be able to relate to a human being.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Honestly, I'm gonna be and and maybe our audience, you know,
can come in and let us know.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
But I think it's just AI is cheap labor.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
It's cheap labor. I mean, it's like who wants to
wash dishes? Who wants to be a dishwasher? When you
can have a machine wash your dishes for you? Who's
gonna you know, but you know, let you know, cook
this or heat up when you don't have to actually
put it in and stirt the path.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
It's gonna be done automatically for you.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
What you know? This is what AI is doing to me.
How I feel is what it's doing to all composers
and all songwriters and all artists is forcing them to
be better. You know what I'm saying if if they
feel threatened, No, I don't think they feel fattened. I
feel like it puts it's putting a fire under them,
(15:12):
and say, you know what, a computer can't do what
I could do, and you know what I could. Let
let the computer create what it is. You know, let
the let's see what you could build, and I will
review it and see if that's what I want.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
And I will definitely don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I don't think you should feel that.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I will feel like, wait a minute, that the computer
is doing a better job than me. I'm going to
get fired because they're gonna go and choose to work
with the computer.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
It's just like a.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Film industry. Only a film artist is is going to
be able to see things in a certain perspective. You know,
a computer is not going to be able to see
it like that. You know, so, like I said, raw
human emotions, it's not going to be replica.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
But they think that maybe because all the controversy in
the music industry right now, like with Ditty situation with
you know, with many other artists that you know, fortunately
they locked up. Yes, yes, you know, you know, and
it's and it's sad because they are so talented and
(16:24):
if you think about it, you know, like if you
listen to the song, I mean, they're like endless songs
and it's just sad. Do you think that people because
of what's happening, people are more leaning towards you know,
using AI, you know, especially artists. You know, if you
want to produce a b.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Or you know, certain people will probably use it just
to learn how to produce music and use it as
a tool to learn how to produce music, and you
know it would be like a stepper stone just for
them to move forward. But you can't be places great
producers like doctor Dre or you know what I'm saying,
(17:07):
even though you know it was a great music producer
himself at a time, but you can't you can't replicate that.
You can't replicate a great producer like Doctor Dre who's
dead day and night in the studios, or bringing people
in and trying to bring new artists and do that.
You can't replicate that. That's like trying to replicate Quincy Jones.
(17:32):
You can't do.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
That, No, because you know, I was thinking as an
let's let's believe you know, I'm an artist.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
I mean I want to have I want to go
through that process.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I want experience going into a studio, working with a producer. Hey,
get back in the book. No, try this, this this sound,
try to move your you know, your voice, you know
the challenge of recording that that experience.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I wouldn't miss it for the world.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
No, you know, I wouldn't miss it for the world definitely.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Like you know, we all grew up knowing that, you know,
the only way to get into show businesses put your
time into the studio exactly, you know, and then be
in there and get knowledged with the with the DJ
and the engineer and you know, and the producers. You
always wanted to do that, you know, everybody wanted to
do that. But with the AI. Now is you able
(18:24):
to do that from home?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Exactly?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And that you mentioned that because you're from home now
you don't even have.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
To be.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Signed and a record a big major record label.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
You can put out music anywhere, anywhere, anytime, under your.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Own under your own label.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
You get all full, you get whatever right you want
out of it. That's the only differences.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
So many social media platforms Spotify, Apple Music, Google, whatever
I Got.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Then with whatever I why radio. You know, there are
all these, all these platforms. Now you could be able
to produce your own music and put them on there
as yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
You know, before you had to look for a manager
and pay that manager to give you a promotion and
help them, have that manager help you promote your stuff
and do demos and whatever it take. And you got
to get signed to a record label and worked hard
from that record label and either you got your song
(19:30):
stolen from the record label or you had an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
We know, a boy a lot of story like that.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
But you know this actually gives a lot of artists
who never got the fair shot to create music and
be able to go out there and do what they
have to do, you know, because we live in the
twenty first century where everything is growing, so you need
to learn how to adapt. Just like back in the days,
(19:58):
you know, you had eight traps and then you had
you had vinyls, and then for vinyls we had MP
three players.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
You know, I remember that, you know, the whole transition
of vinyl and record labels and and the thirty fives
and then all of oh my god, now it's tapes
and they're from.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Tapes, c these sages. And then now it's like streaming online.
You don't even have even.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Phones exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
You don't even need connect your your earphones. Everything is now,
it's just technologies.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's just the technology.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
How is you know?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Even though the technology, sorry, the technology, the technology is
definitely going to continue changing and evolving through the years, but.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
The heart and soul of a composer.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Is never going to change because that person is always
going to bring that song full soul that's in his
heart or his memory or whatever it is that he
wants to generate to the world to make it relatable.
And this AI nowadays is just another two as an
a trax or CD player from back then.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
But do you think that the artist is right now
should feel threatened in the sense that you can create
an AI persona or an AI character and you can
actually make it come to life. I actually, I mean
like there's a movie I think, oh my god, I
don't even know the name.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
If anybody out there know.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
There was a movie that they made an AI actress
and the actress supposedly made this movie and she was.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Nominated for an Oscar and I mean it was a
big thing. And then at the end of the day
she was an AI. It was created.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Do you think that that artists bands should feel threatened
that this could happen?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I listen, I mean it happened when men remember back
in the day, you know it was it was something different,
but it could happen.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
What happened when you know, listen what happened when Millie
Vanilli is. It's crazy because now everybody's a lip syncing
and they just you know, I guess they were ahead
of their time. They were ahead of the time. They
were talkers before TikToker, so you know they was ahead
of their time. But you got to think about it.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
The AI right now, what it's going to do is
help them just move forward and grow because, like I said,
technology in the music industry is always going to change.
So all they got would do is roll with the
punches and as long as the the composer and the
artists prompted their computer to how they are is what
(22:53):
it is. Especially how you just said that there's there
is a person out there. She was like for teen
years old, I can't remember her name right now. And
she became a billionaire using an AI, like this person
became a billionaire using the AI. And she had she
choose the AI to answer her fans. Look at that,
(23:13):
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
They answer the fans and talk and and it speaks
just like her. It sounds just like her.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
The emotions, the the anger, you know, you know, the
sarcasm that she would use is just replicated her perfectly.
That when they put her in front of herself, in
front of the she was like, what, I'm the real whatever,
you know what I'm saying, She's not mean something, you
(23:42):
know what.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
They end up closing the laptop because she got even
upset knowing that this is not a real person and
I'm not having an interview with myry. I rolled by
I Come to Life or you know Terminator Genesis.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Hello, Yes, remember yeah that was a good movie. That
was a good movie. Yeah, but I would be scared.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
And I think that do you think now that you
know you as a social media influencer and you do
tik taks and you lip saying you know songs, do
you feel that the artists musicians are related are kind
of depending on all these influencers to keep their songs
alive because they actually by us influencers and I'm including myself,
(24:39):
we keep the whole music alive, the whole lip saying,
the whole human part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Of course, you know, it's just it's just the simple
fact is that us reality.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Any artists should remember that.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They would have never made it there without their fans,
Sam or right man.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
They shouldn't. This is one thing they need to realize.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
They will never made it as far as they did
in the music industry without their fans and they supporters,
And without their fans and they supporters, they wouldn't have
never gotten to that that the milestone that they are,
or having that little malleble beach that they live in.
You know what I'm saying. But one thing for sure
is that they need to understand and be humbled about,
(25:25):
is that these fans who's keeping their music alive, is keeping.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Them alive exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
You know why because generation changes. You know, I'm fifty
years old.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That means the people I used to listen to is
not popular now because we got new artists now and
that they relate to the younger generation.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
But you know, we we as influencers, you know, we
have to deal with these streaming platforms AIM algorithm and
I think and please let me know what you think about.
Does it affect music? The augument? Why am I getting
(26:07):
talk to the people?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
You know?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
What would it be effected?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I'm always having problems when my my pronunciation listen, But
you know, wouldn't it be affecting their music just because
you know, certain one target the kind of audience they want,
but it will be like all over the place and
sometimes you know, things that they put out.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Then a lot of people know.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Well, this is what the AI is for AI. Now
since you know, say you are feast the artists and
you want to target your feast fans, the AI will
be able to generate that for your fans and generate
you know, what your fans is looking for. It will
follow that.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
AI overwhelm the listeners. What are the people looking for
content or looking for new sounds on your listen? And
it's because you know, once you get into these platforms,
I mean you scroll up and you start seeing the
same thing and the same thing, but you are looking
for some.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Wasn't it It's kind of you.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Know, I'm like, well, like I said, it's you who's
feeding the algorithm. Right, If you like this certain type
of music, that's the only music you're gonna see.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
If you like R and B, you're gonna watch R
and B. But if you're a person who's all around,
person who likes music all around, not just R and B,
not just feast out, everything all around, and you're going
to listen to that, that's what's gonna funnel through your
your stream, through your algorithm. And you know you're for
you page in anyway. You know, I'm saying, you gotta
(27:40):
be a person who's all about everything, so this way
you could get all about everything. But if you just
stick to one thing, that's the only thing that's gonna
funnel through.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I mean, you know, I agree with you, you know,
and it, but I do have my research and reference
to AI just because I think that we're gonna lose ourselves,
We're gonna get lazy, and it's not the creativity is
not gonna be there. And that's my point. Like I
sometimes I think about it and it's great. It's it's
(28:13):
you know, it's not gonna take too much time. I'm
gonna be able to write a song in five minutes.
But it's just we're gonna lose it.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But this is one thing.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I know is our I know art is our technology
has it, but it's like art is so hard to
you know, truanfer, you know, to just put it out
there people to see your your talent.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
That is just it's just gonna be too easy. And
and then people are not gonna believe it.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
They're gonna be like, oh, that's technology, yeah, sure whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But like I said, certain people will only realize it
when they understand that the music wasn't generated through a
human emotion. You could tell and through the human emotion
and the human heart and the way we've been through
and the way we sacrifice, we've been through relationships, and
then we've been through all of this, and this is
(29:11):
what some composers and some music put into the paper,
and that paper that they create becomes the song that
they make that's relatable to everybody else.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
A computer can't do that, and it's going to be
years before that happened.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
But I think that is what.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
But you know what, regardless of anything, can AI promote?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Can AI reach out? Can you think so?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yes, AI will reach out and promote to your fan base.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Will they make the marketing decisions right, decision of technology
of robot will be able to be like, you know what.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Let's do this, let's do that, Let's make it this way.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
No, it's just it's just going to generate the idea
for you and you see it and if you like it,
you could send it out. If you don't, you could
generate and prompt the AI to do exactly what you want.
You just have to sit there and tweak it. You
know what I'm saying. You can't tell the AI.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Help build your professional growth, help you.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It will help you.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
It won't reach your fan base, it's gonna reach your
fan base, and it's gonna reach the audience. It's also
gonna make the audience understand. Hey, listen, this is the
kind of person I want to hear. You know what
I'm saying. This is the kind of song I want.
It's gonna help you generate that.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Of course, I think that, you know, at the end
of the day, we just got to stay vigilant and
you know, at thotfel have keep still having emotions. I
mean I think that you know, we have to keep
helping each other, working with each other, being the best
that we can be and not stop creating, keep creating.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
But this is because they're gonna get lost. I think
we're gonna get lost in all this.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
You know, the AI can help autists focus on creative.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
And what's gonna happen with the individual vision going forward.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's going to help the artists focus on the creator
and not on the technology.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I think, you know, at the end of the day,
it's interesting all this talking is industry and we could
be here for hours everyone, but you know, we could
be here for hours because there's cons and there's pros,
and you know, at the end of the day, I
always say, you know, I think that everybody, we shouldn't
(31:29):
just stop creating. We should just keep going forward creating
being the best that we can be exactly, you know,
and and do what you love, do what you love.
And if you like to write, keep writing. You like
to sing, keep singing, and never give up and try
the best that you.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Can, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
And I hope that this whole technology world and that
we're going into it's just can it might facilitate it,
but it might you know, turn it into something else.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
But you know, yeah, well you know.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Like I said, as as as humans and as and
and and artists, we always adapt to the technology and
we always overcome because at the end of the day,
no matter what you do about the technology, like I said,
I started with ahrax and now we're here where AI
the technology upgrade, but the artist is hot and soul
(32:26):
will always remain.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
The same, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
And at the end of the day, as we're going
to end this podcast, very interesting podcast. Think you know,
if anybody could come in and you know, let us
know what you think.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
At the end of the day, let's just not lost
our touch, our humanity, our human nature.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
So let's just you know, keep supporting, keep just creating basically,
you know. So thank you so much, Mike aka also
known as Brons.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Much. Thank you for having me great topic.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
No, definitely, definitely, and thank you so much for sitting
down with me. And I'm looking forward to having you
back in the show. There's plenty of topics that you know,
we have to discuss, and we are at the end
of the day, music lovers.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
We're passionate about it.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Of course, I mean it touches us and helps us
go through many things in our lives.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Like I said, you.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Yeah, I agree with you so but thank you so much. Yeah, definitely,
thank you guys. I hope that everything goes well with you.
I'll see you next time. You're on the Real Talk
of Music on the LBN Radio. All right, okay, take
care guys, Bye bye.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Now, let's listen to some great music and remember to
come back next week for some more real talk, real
music on the number one radio station in New York,
the l d M Radio station.
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