Real Talk Real Music - Season 2 Ep 3 Interveiw with Keith Shaw

Today Host Evie sits down with Artist  Keith Shaw to speak about his jump to Latin Music, His new song and more.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Throughout time, I've seen many different people, people who like
all kinds of music.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
All check this out.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
We've got a great show coming your way today.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I've learned that music is what feelings sounds like.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Follow me on my journey to discover new.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Music, new styles, and new people.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Welcome. This is real pok real music here on the
LDM radio station.

Speaker 5 (00:34):
Okay, so let's I'm gonna start. I'm just gonna say, hey,
how are you you know? So we're on okay, so alamihanda.

Speaker 6 (00:43):
This is your girl.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Ev Welcome to another episode of real Talk, Real Music
here on the LDM Radio How are you guys? I
hope you're doing fine, and you know, I hope that
you're all ready for my guest today. He's an award
winning artist, a dynamic musician, an amazing writer, and.

Speaker 6 (01:04):
He sinks in Spanish.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
He's saying in Spanish, I mean one more can you
can you ask for?

Speaker 6 (01:09):
Please help me? Welcome recording artist Keith Shaw.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, I'm doing great, trying to stay dry tonight. As
we were talking, no we have.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
You know, I don't know what's going on and this
this weather is Bipaula.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
I always called it.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I still have I still have two Like about this
big two very small patches of snow from the other
day in my front ey No. I was going to
scoop him up and make like the tiniest snowman. But
I just said, my hands don't my hands don't want
to be cold.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
I know, it's it's crazy. This weather is just something else, honestly,
something else. And even though that we're going through all
these changes and the things are happening in the world.
You know, well, first of all, thank you so much
on joining me today, you know, And like I was saying,

(02:06):
you know what, all these things happening with the earth
and the weather and this and that and the earth
and all this stuff. You know, sometimes we get inspired
to write. And you, as a writer, what's going on
in the world right now? Does it inspire to just
like you know what, I have this thought. Let me
just pin it down, and is that like your creative

(02:28):
process is, you have to be inspired, but what's going
on around you?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I get my inspiration from a number of different places.
Like in twenty twenty three, I didn't record anything. I
just wrote. I just I would just sit there on
my computer and write. I write better like a lot
of people like to write paper and pen or pencilvania.
I like to do on the computer because that way
I can change it as many times as I need to.

(02:54):
Then I'll print it out and change it. So I
started writing again late in twenty three. I hadn't done
it any new material, and I got inspired because of
a family situation, and I wrote a song called Waiting
for a Miracle, and then I did that in Spanish too,
called Esperando and malagro. So I had so I did

(03:16):
that because my spouse's.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Funny stuff that I was gonna tell you that's one
of my favorite songs.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
But I was listening to your album Nice. That's why
when you said it, I'm like.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, so so that that would be a really good
example of something from a real life thing. I mean
not like in the world, but like personal thing. And
when my wife, my wife was suffering from cancer, which
I would go into details, but when we were at
the hospital doing the all of the chemotherapy and stuff,

(03:52):
we would be there for like six or seven or
eight hours a day and I would just sit there
with my laptop and just type I for this song
so then I can would cut like that was the
first song idea I came up with was esparando and
malagra waiting for a miracle.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
And then it's amazing, amazing, amazing, how you know, unfortunate.
You know, I'm sorry to hear that about your wife
and she's good everything.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
That was my first thing. I'm like, thank god, Okay,
she's good.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
But that that's just sitting there, because I mean, I
sit there, read a book a little bit, but I
get bored, and I said, you know, I gotta like
make some more creative music material. And I do all
of my own music. So I write it and then
I know what I know, and then you know, I
figure out what I want to hear. You know, obviously

(04:46):
I want to hear percussion of some kind, whether it's
just rock percussion or Latin percussion or whatever. Then I
figure that out, and then I keep building up from there,
and then like the guitar parts and all that stuff,
and then like the bass, and and then I'll say, oh,
there's keyboard sound good in there, or horn sound good
in there, like in just you and me dancing like

(05:06):
a horn little horn field type thing. So I just
kind of build up from there, and I get my
ideas from a lot of different places, like I'll see
something something like a title of.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
A TV show, billboard or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
The title of a TV show, they would make a
great title for a song, Like there's a song I
have that's gonna come out actually, what is today? Oh,
at the end of January, on February the sixth. It
ties right into a happening in the world called who
Will Fall?

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
So I got that idea from the title of a
TV show and then wrote it all out. And when
you see this in a few days when it's available
on streaming and I send it out to you guys
and so forth, you'll see from the graphic and hear
from the words that is tied it right into a
social issue of today. It's really about particularly children, because

(06:11):
the images are right because I do my own artwork too,
but it's tied into children who are displaced, deported, discarded,
whatever other many words I could come up with this,
you know, but you kind of get the idea, and
it's that's how I came up with the idea for

(06:31):
that song. So some of it comes from silly stuff
like I had this like.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
Just waking up and like, oh, you know, I can't
find my slippers.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
And it's like, I know it sounds silly, but it
just it clicks in your mind, you know.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
What I mean.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Or I'll just I'll just have like a thought like
the song red Kisses besos rojos. Matter of fact, all
of my Spanish songs will be available for digital download
next Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
I am so glad because I was so you know
when when like I said, I'm a city girl, and
I wasn't, I know, like I consider you your sound
to be like a fraid train music and.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
Like, you know, you're just like rock. You just laid back,
like have fun and and it's.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
It was just like a different sound for me to
familiarize myself, and it just it was just like a
whole new.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
The mention of what I'm already used to. So I'm
glad that and I.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Was kind of surprised and kind of proud that I'm like,
oh my god, he thinks it's Spanish, you know, And
you weren't afraid to do that, and I mean, were
you a little intimidated?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
No?

Speaker 6 (07:53):
In Spanish.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
I actually the way that I came up with the
idea to start, and I wasn't gonna I didn't start
up to say I'm gonna make a whole album in Spanish.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I just got the idea because I was doing a
local performance where it's acoustics, so you might be doing
it by yourself, and you might be doing it maybe
you got like a partner, like like you're playing guitar
and they're playing like I don't know, saxophone or whatever,
or hand percussion or or piano keyboard, and we did.

(08:29):
You had to perform somebody else's song. And I'm not
a big cover person, and that's why that's why I
do what I do, because I want to do my a.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
I noticed that when I was researching and listening to
your music, I'm like, wait a minute. He he wrote
everything like you compose a role, I mean arrange everything.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, but I got them. I got the idea of
possibly recording in Spanish because I covered somebody else's song
and I was going to do The two songs were
by different people, different local musicians, and one of my
I did in English just like the woman wrote it.

(09:14):
But the other one I said, you know what, I'm
gonna shake up this night of music. And I started
singing this song and the jaws just dropped there like, like,
what's going on, right, because nobody expected it right?

Speaker 6 (09:32):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
So then is that was early in twenty twenty three
when I was trying to figure out what I was
going to do, and then a year went on. Then
I said, you know what, I'm going to kind of
just test the water a little bit and see what happens.
Why why So I did it with Esperando. My cat's here,
he's dancing around. That's why I'm looking down because sometimes

(09:56):
he gets a little ratty. So I so I tried
it with that, and then I said, you know what,
for every English version of a song I do, I'm
going to do a like a twin brother twin sister thing,
but it'll be in Spanish. So you listen to those songs.

(10:17):
The music is exactly the same. It's the lyrics. And
plus I got that idea from watching a movie. I
don't know if you remember movie.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
That's how we get the ideas.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
I could just stare at the sun and I'm like,
wait a minute, something is just you know, passion.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
But remember this movie about this fictional band. And then
the band was kind of falling apart at the end,
and the manager of the band says, you're going to
do this, and you're gonna do that, and you're going
to record this song in Spanish. And I said, that
was a light bulb for me too. I said, oh,
so that's so then as I started going from last
December through actually last month, I just started doing that.

(11:02):
So I would just do those kind of side by side,
because because I have my own music studio set up,
so I don't have to go to, like, you know,
a place and all that kind of stuff. I do
it all on my own. So that's kind of how
that whole parallel universe that is so weird put in

(11:23):
a good way.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
We are put in a good way because you just
you were put in this situation, but you know you,
you are Hey, you brought it.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
You brought it, and I'm glad that you did.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Because people like me, when they looking for listening to
new sounds, new new people, new music, to come across
somebody that it wasn't afraid to dig the toes into
something different. That was extraordinary for me. It was I
was like, oh my god, he.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
And even that experience inspired me to write songs based
on that experience. It's not obvious to anybody in the
world except for maybe me. But as I'm going through
the year and I'm writing these songs, and some of
them like Esperando and Milagro and Soloondo won like awards

(12:19):
for Latin song. And I said, I said to myself
one day, like last September, I said, you know what,
or no last August, and I said, you know what,
that was a good idea. I made the right choice.
And then all of a sudden that triggered a song idea,
and that's there's a song called made made the Right choice,
which came about because I took a chance on stuff.

(12:43):
It worked out, The music got some awards, the music
got played on various radio outlets, you know, streaming outlets whatever,
which I said to myself, you know this is worth
writing about now, like now, only you about made the
right choice. Now in the Spanish version is no mitra tras.

(13:08):
Now I didn't look back, you know that, you know,
so I did that a little bit differently, and of
course the lyrics are different and so forth. But the
idea is just come from like we're to kind of
where wherever the last song the last song that I

(13:29):
or the song I released at the beginning of the
month I haven't released the Spanish version of this is
a song called Freedom, which is not like you know,
some people might think it's like this patriotic song, but
it's really about the lack of freedom, the lack of
being able to go wherever you want to go without
any limitations. But the version in Espanol is even more

(13:53):
hard hitting because it's called sinfonentras so without wow.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
And I would think that you would say leave it,
which is freedom is like free, leave it, But you
actually that that's a very I don't want to call
it strategic, but it's like a surprising to actually for
the people, like wow, yes, really you know what people think?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, So that that song hasn't been released yet, it
will be maybe in April. I'll release that song because,
like I said, I have this song coming out in
English who Will Fall, which is about, like I said,
children who are just disenfranchised right place whatever you know,

(14:36):
not only here, but look all you know, look like
places like Syria and gays and whatever, and all these
kids just get shut that of their homes. And then
the next song, actually I'll be doing the vocals for
it tomorrow, is a song called Welcome to the Freak show,
which is one which.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
Is that's where we're living right now.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
And inspired by what the heck is going on in
the world and all that other stuff without getting into
a lot of gory details. But yeah, some of my
some of my stuff can be a little more social,
political or whatever. And I get that inspiration from groups
like you two, you know YouTube.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
At some point there's there's so much that you can
talk about flowers and love and things. But then at
the same time, I think we need a reality of
what is happening.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yes, and we.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Always music connects all of us, but it is the
reality that we live in.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah. I mean if you look at musicians through time,
no matter what language, they sang, and there was only
somebody who sung about things that were important in the world.
I mean, you know, in America it was you know,
guys like Bob Dylan and Joan Baez. In in Latin
America's guys like Victor Yatta, right, if you remember him

(16:01):
at all, I mean I'm going like way back to
oh geez, early seventies, you know, and we know what.
I don't know if you know the story of him,
but this of what happened to him because he kept
speaking out through his music in this thing and the
things that he was evolved. All right, So we'll keep it,
we'll keep it happy.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Yeah, I know, we'll keep it.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
But I more or less I know a little bit
about it, and it's unfortunate, you know.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
And yeah, so it's just it's been a struggle.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah. So my music can go any place, and not
only like the words, but like I'll hear stuff as
I'm recording a song, like a sound like in the song.
Made the right choice, no matter tras I. Actually there's
a place that's about thirty minutes north of here. It
might be like kind of halfway between here and New York,

(16:53):
so it's like halfway between us here, and it's a
huge like you think you went to end. Yeah, it's
it's up in Robinsville, New Jersey, and I can't remember
the exact name of it, but we were there when
I was recording. Made the right choice, And of course
they have all the you know, the you know the
classic Indian architecture with the huge buildings in the statue.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
YEA like.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Hearing sitars in my head, the gitar of the instrument.
So that song has sitars in it, which is totally weird.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
That's what makes you interesting, That makes you interesting. I
think that as I was, you know, learning about you,
I learned that you started your career a little later
than you know, per se like young person, you know,
And I think that all our experiences in life is

(17:55):
what makes us who we are right now. And by
you sharing that that story, it made you think like, oh,
I'm gonna use that instrument. I'm gonna you know, add
it into whatever you know I'm working on. I mean,
do you feel a pressure to change yourself or tweak
your sound just to fit in because you know, music

(18:18):
can be something else, Music can be tricky, can be judgmental,
narcissistic in some ways. I'm gonna say, do you feel
have you felt the pressure of like, hey, Keith, maybe
you should try this, maybe you should do this. When
you think about this, did you ever were affected by it?

Speaker 7 (18:40):
The reactions like this, I've heard heard them before and
and a lot of times, a lot of times when somebody,
like if you're talking to somebody about your music, my music,
or if you were, you know, making music.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Somebody might say what kind of music do you make?
Or who do you say? Or who do you sound like?
And I go like, I don't know I sound like
me because I'm not. I'm not following the template of whoever.
I get inspired by people, Like I said, when I'm
inspiration for kind of like social political songs, is the
band you too inspiration for my songs that I do

(19:19):
in Spanish or bands like Soda Stereo or Menah or
Miguel Mateos. So I get inspired by people, but I
don't want to sound like them, and I I don't
want to sound like somebody else. And and the thing is,
I that's why I don't like doing covers, because if

(19:40):
you do cover songs and you're performing and you don't
do it exactly like the record people say you.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
People would judge to you with because.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, I'm not so and so famous musicians whose song
I'm doing, you know, I'm so. That's why that's another
a reason why I've been one hundred and ten percent
just doing my own.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
Yeah, I don't blame it, and.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Perfectly I'm perfectly content to do that. And you know,
because of I guess the things that I've gotten from it,
you know, a words here and there, getting airplay on
different radio aulets and stuff. I have to say, Okay,

(20:30):
I guess I am doing some of the right things.
Am I going to be at the Grammy Awards? No,
because I don't want to go through the whole.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Big I know, And like that's more like commercializing. I
think that's when, you know, when I said the pressure
about fitting and how to change just so you could
be accepted or anything like that, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
Crazy that music.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
It inspired, but at the same time, it's just it
comes with so much pressure.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah does? Yeah? Does? Yeah? Like I said, I go,
I kind of march on my own own road with
my own ideas.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
And so forth, and you should, you should.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
But I mean, but I use the same technology as
everybody else, you know, a lot. And then some of
the technology that I like to use a lot of
people make fun of it or whatever, you know, things
like auto tune and stuff. I don't go crazy with it,
but it makes everything sound better if you use it intelligently,
you know. So so if anything that maybe sounds a

(21:35):
little bit like somebody else is because I mean, everybody's
got the same technology, so.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
Everybody they do.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
And talking about technology, I mean, AI autificial intelligence is
just dip is way in into the music industry right
now is a big thing, is a big talk, it's
a big topic and and it's like it's it's only
shoeing a whole new level in music. And we talked
about it in the show and previous I think last week,

(22:05):
and how it's affecting the creativity. What do you think
about that, because it's not even you can't even make
anything personalized because it's like it's done for you. Yeah,
what happened with all the musicians? Are they going to
be replaced? And we're not.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
Are we're going to have an orchestra? You know? It's
just it.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, I think, I think AI and I've looked at
I've looked at some of those different AI program things.
I think you can if you again use it intelligently,
can be a good inspiration. Like if you're having like
a creative block and you hear it's like it's just

(22:44):
like people. What was it about? A year and a
half ago? I read Elvis Costello, Elvis Costello, musician, right
read his autobiography, all six hundred pages of it. He
said when he was with his different bands, because he
would always like change bands, it would have like some

(23:05):
of the same guys, but the name would change when
they were getting ready to make a record. Now this
is way before all things like auto tune and all
of the digital recording software and you know, all the
stuff that we're kind of touching on right now. They
would just go to record shops. They would buy of
the people that they were inspired by, and they would

(23:27):
just lay them out on a table and then they
would just take whatever ideas from this guy, from that guy,
from this woman from that one or whatever and make
your own music. So to me, if you use AI intelligently,
it can help you get through a creative block. Now,
the thing with AI, there's no dynamic to it. So

(23:51):
at least the AI things I saw, it's like two
chords to the whole thing. So there's no you know,
and no time change and all that kind of stuff.
But it is what it is. And some people are
probably I'm going to use it and then and then
sing over it, just like just like people sing over beats.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
But I think like they, I think, like I agree
with you.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
I think that they would use it to just like
get off that that writer's block or that means socially black,
just because just to to get that push. It's just
that I do hold that it doesn't take over completely.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
I don't. I don't think it.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
I really don't want to use the human part of it.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
I don't think it can because unless somebody figures out
away I know, to put more than two chords in
it and have it kind of just loop. It just
kind of keeps loop and loop and loop and loop
and looping the whole way at the same tempo and
everything else versus Yeah, like like my song Freedom that

(24:56):
I released at the beginning of the month, and that song, yeah,
and this was my first kind of again taking a chance. Geez,
what have I made a song that kind had a
little bit of reggae flavor to it?

Speaker 6 (25:12):
You see.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
This is why I that's why I was so happy
to hear because I'm telling you, you give me a full,
like a feeling of different styles, even jazz. I even
what I was listening, and I'm like, oh my god,
he got this jazzy type like I already mentioned, you know,
the train fray, you know, type of rock and and

(25:37):
but you got.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
A little jazzy. I just love it. Just what you
just said right now about the.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
Whole you know, So that song, that song.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Really like my human element. I'm not sure that it
could be duplicated or officially, at least this point in
the world, because I start off in one key and
then I change I do a completely different key change
in the chorus and change the tempo completely, So the
song's kind of go along, and then all of a sudden,

(26:10):
it jumps like a whole step higher, So I got
to take my voice up a lot higher, and then
I break it back down to go back into the
song again.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
I don't Oh my goodness, that's that's the lip I know.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I'm getting into, like, you know, two formats.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
As a musician.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
As a musician that is a passion and what what
you have, and us as the consumer, the fan, you know,
we have to admire the work that.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
You guys do.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Yeah, because you bring I mean it is a music
and instrument and trying to put it together.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
It's not easy. It's not easy, and.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Just just the creativity and the time that it takes.
So it could, you know, go follow one note into
another into another, so it could.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
Be a family. You know, it's like combined. So it's
not easy. It's not easy.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
It's it's it's really like I said, it's like a.
It's really beautiful thing and being able. Like if I
was doing this with it and I, like you know,
had bandmates, like we would all be playing together and
recording the song. But I have to kind of I
do it in layers. So I started out with the rhythm,
and then I put the first guitar on it, and

(27:27):
then there's like another guitar sound that I hear, and
then I put that on. Then I put the bass,
and then I put keyboards.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Not a lot of people do that, Keith, just keep
and twine it and pray it together. Because now it's
just you go into a studio. You have the beep,
the little buttons and this and that, and then it
is created in one set or in different sets. But
you actually take one instrument and place it with another,

(27:56):
and then you try to interwine and overlay over that
if you want to put in another instrument.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
It's not easy. It's not easy.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
But I tell you what, as far as anything that
I do, it's it's just so much fun. It's frustrating
good times.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
That's what it is. Music is fun.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
It's frustrating good times when I have to when I
record the same part over like thirty eight times, because well,
plus I'm like really picky, you know, like I can
hear like the tiniest little.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
Mess I'm got.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Like a day before yesterday, was recording the guitar solo
for Welcome to the Free Show that I'm working on,
and I recorded it. I listened to him and say,
it's not too bad, said all right, so I saved it.
All this kind of stuff, went to bed. I woke
up in the middle of night, said I don't like
it anymore, and completely redid the port. But then I

(29:00):
got to listen to it like ten times, because every little,
you know, whatever you know, you know, I try, I
try to be you know, maybe I'm overly critical of myself,
but I try to make the best possible product that
I can.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
And that's all you can do. And and I'm very grateful.
A lot of people out there are very grateful. I
think that.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Healing within ourselves with what we're living and what we
want to create, I think it makes us whole. And
I think that coming from me, Like I said, I
wasn't familiar with your music or anything like that, but
just listening and the words and the and the arrangements,
I'm like, you know, it's a process. And I think

(29:49):
that that's why a lot of people gravitate towards you. Yeah,
it's just the attitude that you have.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
I'm glad because I know a lot of people struggle
and then give up. Maybe they give up too soon,
I don't know, they do.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
They do, and we go and you know, you.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Don't have to be you know, I'm a teenager. I
just got a record label like that. I mean, you
have your whole life and it doesn't matter what age,
if go for it. And I know that you did,
and I know that you did that. You just said, listen,
I'm just gonna get up.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
And why not.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
I mean I look at all like a lot of
the people that I referred that are inspirations to me.
I mean they're all you know. I mean, you know,
Miguel Mattaeos is like seventy two years old and he's still.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
Hell he's like playing, he's doing that whole thing with
the symphony and everything else and doing the tours and
every he's seventy two years old and he's like not
even missing a beat, you know.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
And see, and that's if you haven't give up, you
still get inspired.

Speaker 6 (30:54):
Maybe not today, but maybe tomorrow, you know, and and
that's a blessing.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
And you know, as as a family man, I mean,
do you it does it affect you sometimes? You you know,
if you have to go on the road, you have
to travel or do a performance.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Well, one of the things, one of the decisions that
I made at the end of twenty twenty two was
not to do a whole lot of live performing because
it does take a lot of time. In twenty twenty two,
I did a lot of live performing. It seemed that

(31:34):
every place I traveled to to perform, at a minimum,
was an hour's drive time or more. So by the
time you factor that into your day, you've eaten up
a huge chunk of your day plus and then you're exhausted,
and then the equipment and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (31:51):
It's not easy, yeah, and it.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Just it it takes a lot out of me and
takes away the time that I need to record, the
stuff that I do to write, and all that kind
of stuff. I mean, maybe you know, when you're like,
you know, a lot younger as a musician, you get
a lot of more of that energy and stuff. But

(32:15):
at the end of twenty twenty two, I said, you
know what. Occasionally I'll perform for a good reason, like
for charity thing, memorial thing, memorial concert, which like I
did one in this past September, a memorial concert for
somebody at a venue that you know, this guy was

(32:38):
a great supporter of the Philadelphia music scene. So he
had a bunch of people. Fortunately I was one of
them that he that were his favorite Philadelphia musicians. And
so it was the fifth year anniversary of his passing.
So we d a big thing at at a music

(32:58):
and arts center. But for me, that for me and
at this point in my life, it's so much easier
just to write, record and produce and.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
It gives you level headed, I mean, and and because
I could imagine the whole even even now that you
mentioned that, the even when if you're younger, it would
have been. But you know, if it's so much, it
gets to a person, and I think that's when we
start losing ourselves, we start losing what we stand for
and stuff like that. So I couldn't I could understand completely.

(33:31):
It's not easy, but you know it's it's it's important
to stay levelheaded and stay humble.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Oh I agree, stay humble. I agree, you know, I
know a lot of people who you don't think they're going
to be the next whoever Taylor Swift, yeah and whoever
you know type thing. And I'm just thinking, you.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
Know, hard, it's kind of hard, but you know some.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
People, it's it's really hard to do that. And you
look at look at people through time that want like
they won like Grammy Awards and stuff. They were like
best New Orris of the Year, and then and you.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
Never you never heard from them again.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Hear from them again. And I'm not talking about Millie
Vanilla either, but actually I like Milli Vanilli. I like
them too awesome.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
I did, I really did.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
The reason I mentioned it is because I was listening
to I don't know what channel. It was on, Serious
Serious XM, and oh I know it was the eighties
channel and they came on and I'm driving in the
car and I'm going, man, this stuff is still good.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
It's still isn't it. I prefer to listen to a
good song. Okay, might not have one ground. I mean
it did, but it was taken away. But that's the point.
But you know, it doesn't matter. But if it's a
good song and it has a good beat and it
has a of feeling.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
I prefer that then just to be you know, yeah,
for me, it isn't you know, to be the thing.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
You know, the music, the music, music, the music for
me is not about going out and being famous and
all this stuff. And when I get the opportunity to
do something like this with you, which I really appreciate me,
it's it's great. But you know, I'm not you know,

(35:30):
I'm not expecting to be like, you know, the next
big on I don't know, whatever show they have, all
the kind of next next big thing thing. I'm doing
it because it's an outlet. It's better than doing something
that's not productive. So I'll keep doing it as long
as long as I'm able to.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
And I encourage you too.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
I encourage you too because I think that you're in
a sample of you know, I love it.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
I love what I do. I love creating. Why not?

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Why am I gonna stop doing something a craft that
I love? So I think that I wouldn't want you
to stop. And I think that whoever listens to this podcast,
I hope that they get encouraged.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
You know what, sometimes things don't go.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
Out, you know the way we think, but never lose
that hope and just create, get creating music.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
Why not for it?

Speaker 5 (36:30):
This is an outlet right now. You don't have to
get signed by a record label. You just create and
put it out there.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I made up my own record label.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
Hello, thank you, Keith, thank you, thank you, mister Shaw.
I'm gonna call your mister Shaw because exactly like, do
not give up. Just keep creating, you know that, That's
what That's what the independent part of it is like,
be unique.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
Be you.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Why you gotta be following what other people, you know,
expect you or do this or change your ways and
you're not even satisfied, you know. But I'm so I'm
so happy that we got to chat. Congratulations on the
song Freedom, which is gonna come out soon.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
And I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Version Yeah, that'll come out later in a couple of months.
Who Will Fall will be out next Thursday. We complete
Spanish version, uhto checktat Quero will be out on Tuesday.
Digitally awesome.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
We net We definitely and I hope that we could.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
You could come back and we sit down and talk
about the Spanish side of it and that that journey
for you, because I would love that. I would love
to sit down and talk about that journey. But you know,
thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to
get to know you, to listen to your music and listen.
I'm so excited. I listened to a couple of albums.

(38:04):
You know, you already have it online and stuff like
that and and stuff. So I encourage everybody to go
out there listen. He's available in all the the social media.
You in social media, all the digital platforms. I just
go out there listen to mister Shaw. I'm mister Shaw
now because I love it. I love it, you know,

(38:27):
don't feel guilty for listening to something new.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
So what why not?

Speaker 5 (38:33):
You know, And I'm so so so happy, happy, thank
you for giving me the opportunity.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
You know.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
But besides, what is gonna come out? Are you for
the year twenty twenty five? Before we leave?

Speaker 6 (38:45):
Do you have anything plan or are.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
You gonna because I know that you're very limited with
your presentations and stuff like that, but I'm going.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
To go over because I'm picking something up. Last year,
I had a goal. Part of my goal, part of
my goal in twenty twenty four was to release a
song every month, which I did. But but I doubled
it because I did it one in English and in
the Spanish version. This file is all lyrics. So I'm

(39:16):
gonna do the same thing this year of one song.
So that's why it's r next to me on the
floor because it was sitting on the chair before.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
That's awesome. I like that. I loved that.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
I didn't know that you that was one of your goals,
and you're gonna do it this year again.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, so by the end of the year, I'll have,
you know, another another album. I probably won't do quite
as many songs overall, but yeah, that's that's the goal
is because.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
That is awesome, and who knows it.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
Part of that goal maybe you inspire another songwriter or
another singer and they do your a song, or they
do a cover of your song.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Imagine that.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
Oh my goodness, so much, so so much for sitting
down with me. I appreciate you again. Everybody just his
songs is available right now. Just go out and listen.
The Freedom is out already. A couple of songs are
gonna come out next February six. I think you mentioned, Okay,

(40:26):
I just want to make sure that I had that
and he's he's He's in all social media platforms, so
follow support, listen to his songs here on the ld
M radio.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
And thank you so much, Keith, Thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
Blessings to you and your family. I'm glad that your
wife is doing good, really really good. Thank you, thank you,
thank you so much. Hey guys, thank you for listen
tuning in and I hope to see you soon.

Speaker 6 (40:54):
Love and blessing always uses your girl, Evie.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Bye, hold bye. Here's a song from the guests you
just listened to, and remember to come back next week
for some more real talk, real music on the LDM
radio station.

Speaker 9 (41:32):
What's Your Today?

Speaker 4 (41:33):
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Speaker 9 (41:38):
Now I realize as a dog.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Breaks now, Yesterday's not a closed avenue, Yesterday's to day.
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the past thing change, It's you and.

Speaker 6 (41:56):
Me Yesterday's see no relizing this, read.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
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Speaker 9 (42:48):
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Speaker 4 (42:50):
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Speaker 9 (43:29):
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Speaker 6 (44:04):
Taking shadows.

Speaker 9 (44:07):
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and so days today, and every meetings.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Sway in the quite of noting heat of the misdays.

Speaker 9 (44:55):
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Speaker 4 (45:01):
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