RFP Vault Episode 3 Daniel Webster

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
I don't know everybody. Everybody nay thoughts here of the
Ruff and Finder's podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Shop to where we talked anything and everything about racing
from Ruth to South, that various shops we go on asitt,
unedited and no bulls.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Shit, anyone to just go back to the pit. Well
he fucked up.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's just my day.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
We're talking about rules. I don't know we got all
these rules tides that we see on the tracks.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
I've been waiting for this home here, even running you
were running a back oh for like five years, laying
inside of me's blaming me watching get in the bad
Raine jacket, plane jacket.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I raised it just like you, Joe David's us.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I did it for the wind. We can talk to
various drivers in their shop where they cut their teeth,
blood their blood and they make their name and the
sport that we love of short track racing.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
On a tree.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
And so get back, relax and grab a road soda
and enjoying the various drivers that we go and meet.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
And now on with the shop.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
That's always says every time, Oh, you know we should
do this, we should do that. You scared? Scared? How
we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Everybody? My name is Randy Phillips here of the Rough
and Fetterers podcast, and today we have a special guest
of Daniel Webster on the phone with us as he
drives back home from the racetrack. Uh, Daniel, you pretty
much eat, sleep, and breathe the race and as much
as I've noticed. But how you doing? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Good? Still? Uh? Still sweaty from practice? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:26):
He's still my customers car. Yeash off in the truck
and got out of there like we went out one time,
went to the top of the charts driving.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Actually tested my customer's car. He's a hot shot and
works for the Miami Dolphins and can't get here in
time to practice. So I took his car out tonight
to get it ready for tomorrow, and I'll bring mine
tomorrow race against him, beat him again.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
So that's that's pretty cool though, I mean, so, how
did well? I guess we'll go into that. So what
do you do outside? So do you own like your
own like fab shop or like what is let's start
with that. What is right foot down? Is that like
a team? Is that like a chassis thing?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Or what is it? It's whatever it needs to be
that day.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Okay, we could be just talking shit in the beer
garden and be like right foot down, and so I'll
understand it.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's funny. Like about ten years ago, a buddy of
mine and I started a T shirt company because we're
working like an office job sell a race car parts.
And you know, we all had all this time in
our hands when we're sitting there, you know, work on
the computer or whatever, and we started saying I did
all the design work. I did raps for a long time.
So design work came over with the name right foot down,
blah blahlah blah, and we did that for about a

(02:39):
year whatever. It pizzled out, and then like so three years,
three years ago, I got a grown up job selling
health insurance where I had to put like a tie
and shiny shoes on every day to go to work.
That's able, God, damn miserable, need it. I drank so
much it was terrible. And then one day I had
a friend of mine like, hey, man, I need cat

(03:00):
the body foot of my car, and you know my
you know, my shop can't get to it. I'm like, yeah,
I was ten ninety nine, so I yeah, I can
take a week out of the damn office. Yeah, I
hated it. I did that, and the next week I
was driving a modified for a team and it's not
like bracket ripped out of chassis and he's like, hey,
get it to your dad. I want to fix right away.
I'm like, well, shit, if you're gonna pay someone like,
I'll do it. I'll just catch your breaks. I'm you know,

(03:21):
your driver or whatever. But like those two weeks, like man,
I just felt like myself again, and I'm like, you
know what, let's Everyone's like, dude, you your work is
as good as anyone else could just do this for
a living. And so I've grown up. My dad's a
welder by trade, and he's had, you know, basically transformed
into a racecar shop over the years. So I've grown

(03:43):
up with race cars in my backyard.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I'd come home from school and there'd be you know,
ten trucks in the backyard and everyone out there, you know,
helping work on cars or whatever. So I basically had
I just kind of invaded my dad's shop and like, hey,
I'm gonna run my business here.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Uh thanks, yeah, yeah, thank you for starting this. I'm
gonna I'm gonna keep it going. No, that's cool because
I've always wondered what right Foot Down was, and I
totally understand that it was just like something that you
just came up with and you just run with it
from there. I mean, no, it's it's fucking cool.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'm gonna start the shop, you know, putting bodies on
and clips and stuff like that, and I'm like, well, shit,
I already have a cool name in the logo and
shirts left over and we didn't sell, so fuck it.
We're right Foot Down raicing.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
No, that's fucking awesome, and like, so like, how people
need to know this? So how I knew how I
found out about Dan? Is it Daniel or Dan?

Speaker 4 (04:39):
What?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
How do you want to be? Whatever?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Daniel Daniel?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Okay, okay, my bad, my bad, my bad.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
But Toby Webster whatever, But all right.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Now that works. So Webster I was watching twenty twenty
Speed Weeks and he came out there with a Wrangler
like based like themed car with right Foot Down on
the side of it, and I was like, that's fucking cool,
and I was talking. So I had my co host, Seagroves.
He's usually with us doing this stuff, just sitting there

(05:09):
being quiet the whole time. But uh, but he me
and him were watching it and I was like, that's cool.
I was like, I don't know who the mother who
that guy is, but we got to get to know
him because that's when we started doing this podcast ship.
So it's been a it's been a minute, but it
was cool to see like the old like Wrangler, like
schemed car, but with obviously different things going on. And

(05:30):
then you had his his World series one, which you
put up on a post earlier today. I mean you
were really good with it, so obviously so obviously you
were a big Earnhart fan.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I would think, Yeah, I grew up in out full
of blackbree and red a stuff like my dad. My
dad's late model is like he uh he started he
was always a drag racer. He got into circle track.
Actually you want to go to the beginning.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, no, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Track raced. First circle track race was on my first birthday.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Oh, so there you go.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Twenty ninth of nineteen eighty seven was my dad's first
circle track race. He kind of felt like he kind
of jumped in a little bit too high of a
class for being a mobie and like kind of struggled
a little bit and then one night they put like
the local like late model hot shoe in the car
and he ran second and like my dad's best ever
finished was eight. He's like, you know what, I think,
I'm a kerchief. He always had cars, so like whenever

(06:29):
we lived in South Florida dot A Homestead, we grew
up going to Hyalia back when that place was like
we missed the big drug running days. Unfortunately we're still poor.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, so all we get that, Yeah, definitely on it.
I mean some days I have those thoughts too.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
But we moved up to about an hour north of
Tampa after Hurricane Andrew Campto in ninety two. We moved
up here and started racing like the Central Florida tracks
got and eventually he moved up. You know, business was
good enough building sportsman like I'm in the mid nineties,

(07:06):
Like if you wanted to run up front and sportsman,
you had to get a Webstern car like Dad's cars
were the ship back in the day, like get stuff
from front and stuff figured out and everything. And then
eventually bought a eight model and put it together and
like it's always had just like local sportsman, relate ball
guys drive for him. And then Eventually I started in
like hobby stock, your stock type things, and yeah, the

(07:28):
end of two thousand and one I ran all O
two one a couple of races. We moved up to
street stock with the same car where we could put
race and tires on it, headers, blah blah blah blah.
That was back when we ran like thirty eight forty
weekends a year. We go to a local track, you know,
you fucking practice on you know, I'm sure you do
it again next weekend, and you're excited to do it

(07:48):
every week.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
You know.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Traveling wasn't really a tring back then. Yeah, and then
I got up to ran a sportsman car for a
little bit, and the class was kind of struggle at times.
We actually put ten inch tires and ran with the
supers and I ran third one night the supers back
with the sportsman car, and Dad's like, all right, I
guess I need to promote you to the like. So
that time eventually became sad late model driver, and I

(08:11):
remember the first night I drove it. We had a
triple fifty lapper at Sitchers that night in Inverness, Florida,
and there was like Wayne Anderson was there, like all
the like one of the coaches was there, like the
big name, big Lee Schofield, all those guys, and I
I won the third fifty two five second and then
winning the third race of the night, and it was

(08:33):
my I remember it was my mom's birthday and it
was my first time driving Dad's late made and we
got the win and it was like, wow, it's just easy.
I set the bar way too life. And then we
mostly ran local stuff through five O six range there
and then oh seven we started to travel a little
bit more, going to like o'calla Speedway which is Bubble

(08:55):
Raceway Park now. Like I actually I won the last
pavement Super Late Model championship there before they switched the
dirt when Bubba bought it.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Gotcha.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
I won a couple of championships, like I won three
of them at Auburndale Speedway, a little tiny, tight bull
ring that I'm actually driving home from right now. And
like and eleven and thirteen, I want to say I
won the state Tour championship in thirteen. That was probably
the highlight of my career. We had a tour series

(09:24):
back then. I had nine straight top twos. Like, yeah,
he's just insane run with this mid ninety four city
car that my dad and I built the shock on
our table and dinoed him with a fucking screwdriver on
the floor, like pulling up on it, you know, like
you can never dream of getting away with Now. It's
amazing how much Super has it changed. It was ten

(09:45):
years ago. Yeah, Like we dominated was just meee and
him and one of my buddies. We never bought practice tires.
We rarely went to practice on Friday nights, drew up
on Saturday and just kick ads Like, oh god, I
missed those days.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
No, no, I get that. Yeah, but yeah, racing involves
from year to like, from year to year. I mean,
racing's always evolving. People are finding new things, and like
usually the class gets tighter and then someone finds a
little loophole that they don't talk about, and then they
just go from there, you know what I mean. Because oh, yeah,

(10:19):
I'm sure you guys had everything written down the first time.
You just went and absolutely drug drug the whole damn
field and just ran away with it, you know what
I mean. You guys went back and just wrote everything
down and just left it right there where it was,
where it was safe, you know what I mean, he
didn't take it. He didn't take it back to the track.
Would you take a picture of your phone?

Speaker 3 (10:40):
And we always, you know, back then, like always we
were we were poor. Like we had a little twenty
four foot trailer that like the axles were bent. We'd
have to just mountain tires and turn them around and
wear out the gisty outside because the inside were worn off.
And yeah, my dad had an eighty nine goalie. We
had to put a new motor in, and like we
didn't have any money, and we makes money, like I remember, yeah,

(11:04):
and I always there were so many nights where I
ran tack or a third where I could have won,
but I knew if I run at least four, it
pays enough to pay for the night. And we yeah,
you know, great even on the night. I always race
with that, like I'll never forget this night. I'm racing
a bobber nail and I'm racing against the track owner's
son and the dude he's trying to win his first race.
He's kind of a douchebag. And I'm like, man, there's

(11:27):
twenty to go. I have forty corners. I could still
win this range there's fifteen to go, thirty corners. I
could still win this range. Just keep dealing the ship
and finally, like I got all the way next to
him and he sore checked a shit out of me
and I fell back to four, drive back up a second,
check pick check her flag, and I drive straight to teck.
I don't take pictures or everything because I'm fucking livid.
And uh. One of my buddies, who USU known hot

(11:48):
head runs up to my window, rips the windownt down.
He's like, why didn't you rack him? I'm like, let's
still pay fifteen hundred bucks per second, and he's like,
that's really smart. Were thinking about that well driving I'm like,
I guess you don't.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah I am.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I'm like, I'm like, dude, I still put six hundred
dollars profit in my dad's pocket tonight, Like yeah, you know,
like we don't. That's just how we always race. Like, yeah,
I don't know. I probably could have a lot more wins, yeah,
a lot less seconds than third, but I'm still I'm
proud of the career I had before I quit late
Mall racing at the end of fourteen, just because my

(12:29):
truck had three hundred and ninety thousand miles on it, Like,
you know, I needed to figure out something that I
could try to make more money to show for life
other than just racing. So we took some time off
and but in that span from from four to fourteen,
the stat I'm probably the most proud of I've won

(12:50):
at least two different late mal races at five different tracks,
like I've got thirty Yeah, because there's so many people
that are one track wonders like I've won well full
races air quotes at least five different racetracks. So and
with sportsmans and stuff, I wanted a handful of others,
Like that Freedom Factory win at the beginning of the
year was off.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah that was cool. How did you like that? How
did you like that? You ran there before it went away?
Or I don't know when it ran ran when it
went ran away, but you get my point.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, I don't know what year it And it was
always my worst track, Like I never left there in
a good mood. Something always happened, like either we struggled
or I got wrecked on ninety could have won and
blah blah blah blah. With the super I think my
best super finish was forced the whole my career back there.
Back in the day, I red I had driven one

(13:41):
sports and race there and won it, so I was
I'm still back in a thousand sports and races there. Good. Yeah, yeah,
the Super the Super I never conquered it back in
the day. But I also was just purely a bull
ring racer, and that plays is a high bank. It's
super fast, and like it's really rough and bumpy and
oh wait, I feel like at the ball, oh dude,

(14:01):
it's like you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Like oh yeah, no. My buddy went down there for Yeah,
my buddy went down there for like some Lucas Oil thing.
It was the first time that place came back, and
that was like they did the mini stalks down there,
and I sent them a text. I was like, how
rough is the track? He's like, my teeth fucking chatter.
I'm like, okay, that's pretty fucking bad. Oh yeah, I

(14:27):
don't doubt it. I don't doubt it at all. But
like going back just to like run back real quick,
and you definitely are like more level headed than most
racers because like I wouldn't have thought, hey second still
pace for fifteen hundred even though this motherfucker just door
checked me, I would have said, this motherfucker is gonna
go eat a hot dog on me, and I'm gonna
put him there for him, So you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
So, No, that was there's so there's so many nights
I'm like, man, when I finally snap, I'm gonna fuck it.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
But yeah, no, I get it.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
No, I Calmber. In the race car that I do
driving down the highway. The highway, I'm like fucking stream
like fuck alley. Yeah, but in the car, I can
still win this race. It's okay, Like just keep dealing
with say well, yell at him later. Yeah. I don't
know why, Like my brain is, I feel like it's
pretty fucking rare to be smarter in the race car
in town.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I think you've been in atter.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I've been in a spotter stand, like driving over a
fucking road.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah no, I totally no, I totally understand. I don't know.
Maybe it was just because you feel more comfortable and
you grew up on like hey, I have to save
this fucking car to go to the next week. You
know what I mean. No matter where you were, you
still had that like distilled in your head. I mean
that's how me and my old man used to race.
And I was like, if I fucking wrecked the car,
I gotta fix it. And I'm the only one going

(15:44):
to be out here doing it, because my dad's just
gonna be like, my dad's gonna be like, congrats. Now
you get to learn how to put the whole front
end right back together for you.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
You know, I remember getting fifteen years old out the
shop at night after school or whatever, was like the
first sturb CD black thing on the fucking radio and
things in a ring and pinion or something, or building
a fender to put on a car, and it was
you know, hey, if you want to right, that's your car.
You do the work. It's like and also, man, I
started when I was fourteen. I was like fucking five

(16:14):
three one hundred and eighteen pounds basically gets grown ass
men and three socks, like yeah, I didn't want to
rub them up because they were scary.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah yeah, no no, And I like I wish I
so like that's the and I feel like nowadays it's
definitely the tide has turned. Like some obviously you get
those you get some of those kids that are out
in the shop just like you and me grew up doing.
But like most of them, they're just they just run
over their head a little bit and then they just
tear shit up that don't need to be you know
what I mean. They're not level headed.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
They're just fucking the entire ass prolate model division. Like,
like I made a joke to somebody in the whole
fucking group, I will sell over when I called them
rich people bombers.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I mean, I mean it is fucking true. I mean
I get it.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
I mean a dollar crack car to go out there
fucking like I got kissed me off. I'm gonna drive
over his fucking apos, like oh okay, and then they
go play xbox hole. They you know, the backups, the
crew gets the fucking backup car out of the rig.
Yeah I never had that obviously. Yeah me my dad
in my car. I called moneymaker because like I remember,

(17:17):
I won I want a four thousand dollars to win
Memorial Race on a Saturday, and then the following week
I won the grand opening of Showtime whenever it came
back and paid three grand, so like, oh we made
seven grand to seven days. I'm like this motherfucker, Like
I just start calling it a moneymaker after that. Yeah,
I had that one one lay bottle for ten fucking years.
Like people don't do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Oh yeah, so like old we got it. Yeah no,
like see, so I totally get that because like even
though it's like in a smaller division, obviously it's totally different.
But like I've had my car for fucking like ten
years now, yeah, ten years on the on the dot,
and I've had the same fucking car. I've raced the
same car, but I built it myself. So I'm like,

(17:57):
fuck it, We're just gonna keep it around. But but
You're like you're the same way as me, Like fuck it.
I was like fucking things still doing government. We're gonna
keep it around, you.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
If we had to pay somebody to do the work,
we would have been out of the sport. Yeah, fifteen
years ago, Like that's the only way we could do
it because it was we did it. Like yeah, you
know I remember. But that same track of our kid
threatened me in my face or whatever. I'm like, he
was gonna wreckt me one night because he tried me
and got sought out and I didn't tap my roofs
and he just thought, and I'm like, are you serious,

(18:32):
And like I boat up at him. He's like, oh,
well wreck your ship. We got money, And like I
ain't got money, but I got sucking a bunch of
people to like me to let me drive their ship,
and I got a bunch of steel the steel rack,
and I'll kill motherfucker like you guys are run out
of money, wait before I run out of the effort.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
So that's so like, it's so fucking cool to listen,
like to talk to people from like all like all
sides of race and so like you do, Sportsman, but
you're down in Florida. I got a buddy that's the
same way as you up here, and he always says
people will run out of money before I run out
of fucking pipe in this shop. So he's like, I
don't care, I'll fucking build it right back and we'll

(19:08):
go do it again, you know what I mean. So
it's just so cool because like being a person that
can like talk to all these people, and I appreciate
you all coming on and doing this stuff, including you
Daniel and like in short notice and doing all this
stuff with me. It's just so cool to hear like
the same kind of fucking like mentalities and shit like that,
like you're trying to keep your shit together so you

(19:29):
can go to next week and not spend so much
fucking money. And then like there's a ton of people
that are like that. And then like just now when
you said, like you'll run out of money before I
run out of fucking steal and the fucking rack, like
it's just like it's just so cool. I'm like, I've
fucking heard that before. That's for sure. I'm the same
damn way. You know what I mean, I'll go buy

(19:49):
more sticks. So no, I totally get it. But so
when was so just to back up a little bit,
because I know you, like you scan through like what
everything you did. When was your first like championship?

Speaker 3 (20:03):
When was your like I think the Okaala one in seven?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Driving for your dad?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, so how is that?

Speaker 4 (20:13):
I am?

Speaker 3 (20:14):
I still actually drive for my dad in late models?
Like no, I know that for a while, but I
had no super for a couple of years and I'm like, man,
I don't have to pay for fires my drive is so.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
No, I totally get it, but like but like obviously
your dad's been doing it for a while. And stuff
like that. But like, how was that? How was that
moment with him like like hey Dad, I fucking want
to chance, like this is my first you know what
I mean? Was that like heartfelt or he's like just
throw it in the fucking trailer we got shipped to do,

(20:48):
like you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (20:49):
No, it was it was cool because like, yeah, like
it is funny because like he's like, you know, I
do all this ship you know, for you to raise
or whatever. I'm like, dude, I quit a few years ago.
You put somebody else in the car. It don't give
you that. Yeah, laid up with his Isaiah.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
But yeah, yeah, I know he was just like you do. Yeah,
I totally get.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
I think the the twenty thirteen championship I think was
bigger because it was it was a true like it
wasn't just a local track championship. It was the tour
series time like it was. It was against all the
big money teams and the people with paid crews and everything,
and we showed up with our plan said the eighty
nine dually and four foot trailer with a ninety five

(21:29):
poor city car and Kiser pass that year like race
that was that one was the one that fans out
the most for me, But it won the local the
local Overnail championship the same year. But that that tour
deal that was that was a big one because it
was such a big thing to win, you know, a
tour series. Yeah, that's that's outside of just you know, hey,

(21:49):
I'm good at my home track or whatever like that
was that was big, man, That one will every time
I see pictures of it. I still have like a
banner and stuff, like.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
We kept ever help.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, yeah, I've got the They had the full size
for the bank, but they had like a seven foot
bannerhall of my car on it, and we had the
people I was helping at the time had a flagmate
so I could do the like the pace slap with
the bag out the window after we locked it up
and stuff like that. Like that was that was some
cool ship back then. That one, that one, probaty sticks

(22:22):
out the most for sure.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
So I totally get that because like you can, you
can race against your local guys and you've been running
them for fucking years. But when you go like up here,
when you go when you go from local to running
like the tour, you get humbled really quickly. Because you
got a lot of smart people working together to get
their car to be better. And then you got to
fucking run against that. You're not used to Joey that's

(22:46):
in the backyard doing his fucking toe with two by fours.
You got a guy that has a pull down machine
and has all this other like extremities that could help him.
You know what I mean, You're going against him.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
But when people when they wreck their shit, they hall
ass to Michigan or North Carolina they had it fixed.
They don't just go home and fix it in their backyard.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah yeah, yeah, no exactly.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Fies for support.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, so like like yeah, like that's what I mean.
There's another thing of evolution that's in the racing Like
years that people just go to chassis shops. Now I
mean not, I mean, you do the same fucking shit,
but at the same time, it's it's the same you
get my point, you know what I mean? Like the
people can bring it back home and work on it themselves.

(23:31):
I mean anybody can do. Like most people should be
doing that like how they did back in the day.
But now we have all these different chassis shops trying
to make a name for themselves, like Port City and
then Crazy Horse, and then you had Fury and then
right foot down doing all that stuff, and you get
my point, you know what I mean. It's just like

(23:52):
it's just like one of those things. It's not back
in the nineties where you just went over to a
pine tree and fucking just threw it in reverse and
fucking put the front back straight, you know what I mean.
It's not. It's a little more etiquette now.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
But once that style of racing started to get more prevalent,
like that's when I kind of quit.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, the fourteen.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Fourteen we just had a rough year. Like I think
there was three different races I was leading and had
a flat tire, anition box, break, broken hackle, like just
all kinds of shit, like at least the one one
or two that year, but like, yeah, just all the
all the bad luck. It didn't happen to thirteen. Cut
up at fourteen. It's like, ah, so I got a
job offered. So that's when I kind of transitioned from

(24:39):
driver to crew guy. I went to work full time
for Chris Montanane Okayan tell you we uh like one
of my best friends with the crew chiefs class manager there,
and I had been driving his sportsman car actually the
previous few years also, So I went to work for
Fontaine and lived the race car twenty four to seven life.

(24:59):
That's where you know, like I have a forty hour
a week. I'm in the shop working loads of sucking
big rigs, clean it, blah blah blah blah, go to
the track and we did toper late little stuff and
then we did a handful of truck races a year too.
So I got to be I got worked by. It
has three or four full time people at first whenever
doing more truck stuff. Yeah, and work boy up to
the truck sheet on and I'm sure you've seen the
YouTube video on the freak, like if you if you've

(25:22):
never seen it before, I want to say nat carbon
and puts it out. But I got to be the
truck sheet on the Freak for three or four years.
Had that truck. It was Bobby Hamil's seniors old truck.
He won like three times with yeah, yeah, first efforts.
It was originally a Dodge that was the first ever
Toyota and then it changed hands a couple of different

(25:44):
people like Terry Cook drove it somebody like it just
went on down the line. Yeah, and then we ended
up with it and almost won the first night out
with it at the first day of Salaveagon ran out
of fucking gat leading leading at at Daytona and got
wrecked in the big one. Bah blah, Like they're so
cool to lerk to go to sit on the fucking

(26:05):
pit box. Yeah, I'm on the box at Daytona, fucking
doing fuel mileage out of the calculations of my notebook
and ship. Like that was like a big turn. But
it was cool to go through that phase of like
money doesn't matter, spend whatever you want to win.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, yeah, totally different level.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Oh yeah, and they like back before then, I didn't
really drink very much. Those fuckers were like, hey, like
if we run a seventy in practice, we're getting the
ground bottle out.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Like hey, it's still fucking like that, like not that bad,
but like you get my point, Like, yeah, we definitely
like we don't get Yeah, I have a party with
a couple of people like that where they're like, we
got the top fifteen. I'm not gonna feel my fucking
legs tonight, fuck them, you know what I mean. So yeah,
I totally get that.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, I know, but yeah, yeah, I did that for
four or five years full time with Chris and Kevin
and then and all like like all intrupt stuff and
gotcha full time traveling and getting too. We went to
like I got the spot at El Dora for a
truck race. We ran sixteenth there, like we went to Marksville,

(27:12):
went too obviously they told us out that got bunch.
I just think it's to be a part of that
world for a little while. Like I don't think I'd
want to do it full time because that's matt start grind.
It's serious. But it's cool to go through that stage
of being the full time like you get up every
day if you go to fucking work on race cars.

(27:33):
And then yeah, like I said, was such full ship.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
And then did you get burnt out? Did you get
burnt out doing that? Because I've talked to a couple
of people that came up from up here and went
down there and they're like, I just got burnt out
and just wanted to stop for a minute.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
You know, Yeah I did. I did it. Really it
was tough, like by the end because it was like
especially a lot of times they would put me in
the car to go practice and we'd be like top
one or two and then like, oh the iver drink
too much the night before. We're gonna fucking suck today.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Great, great, Yeah, yeah, no, I get.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Where's a tale into his career and it's just like us,
I lost the drive if we're still winning, probably like
at the beginning, we went like crazy and he was
really on his game and brought great race cards and
called ass and blah blah blah blah, and it was like, yeah,
why bother trying and get a certain point because I

(28:30):
know I can comment and go to everyone. But yeah, yeah,
got burnt out, burnout. And then, like I said, I
had a buddy of mine that was sucking selling health insurance.
Tell me how much money you could make doing it,
and like, oh, I need to go do something different.
And I did that. It was horrible.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Did you like we want to just go turn the
damn wrench again?

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Absolutely? So? What was still? I still race sporadically through
that time between between working for Chris, I mean we
raced for a living, so like by my weekends are
pretty busy. Yeah, and then for three or four years
I dated a female race car driver, so like every
off weekend was trying to help push her to make

(29:16):
it to the REV program, which was successful at that
So I built her a brand new car. Spent all
my you know, every dime I had saved up in
a bunch of credit cards to build her a badass
car that she went to go make a name for
herself for a little while.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, she's married to apparel. So I guess I've dodged
the bullet there.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
But I mean yeah, I mean, hey, I'm trying to
remember who it was, because I remember, I remember who
it was, but I fucking can't play a name. I
know the face, and I know the color scheme.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
And black and purple nine cars.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there it is. That's what it is. Yeah,
so broke, Yeah, I remember that. I remember her rise
to the Yeah like that I was. I didn't even
know you were dating. I was like, oh words, Yeah,
when you said that, I was like, word.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, that was the driver's bitch for a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh there you go. Okay, I gotcha.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I was. I was the helmet toder, flash spodder driver.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Coach, so so gotcha.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
It was a good time back in the day. But
just work out, blah blah, blah blah on whatever.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah yeah, yeah, no, it's in the past now yeah
yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Now now race gets a wild car in.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Your old car, it's still your car at least you
know where it came from, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Oh yeah, so the throwback stuff. So eventually, when that
was starting to come to an end, I'm like, you
know what, I'm just frustrated on me again. And I
bought an ex campy car. And you know, Anthony can't
be like top of the line. Watched the car win
a couple of others super rights. I and me and

(31:01):
him are tight, like he he let me make payments
on it. I don't think anyone else do we do
that for And I made I took a couple of
months to buy it as a roller and and put
it together over time. And then I borrowed the motor
out of my dad's car and got it all done.
Blah blah blah, and uh, Shepherd had great luck with it.
Like I was leading a ten like dude, the biggest

(31:22):
heartbreak race. I was fucking leading a ten thousand wind
race was probably eight hundred dollars in my bank account,
and it fucking broke a ball joint like oor, like
dude driving away from Natty at well, Dearie, all those
guys like yeah, rand in the banks with a borrowed engine,
no money to my name, like was fucking doing it
and cut a left front tire from the fucking baal

(31:43):
joints like coming apart, one of those howl ball joints
came apart, and yeah, and then I went on this
this this depression slide of like I'm trying to get
back into racing, and I drove. I got in a
modified an Auburndale at that time, drove to the field
after the inverts leading by straightaway top like practice roops

(32:06):
out of the chassis. I drive. I get to one
of my friend's sportsman cars. He asked me to come
drive his car. Speaking one night. Go up there. There's
like forty cars there. Start on the pole, lead the
first fifty laps, motor blows up. They like they go
to show time for the two thousand wind race and
the ball tooin deal It's like, oh my god, I
like four races in a row that I led and

(32:28):
didn't finish. Yeah, in four different tracks, three different divisions,
three different donors, Like, oh my god, this black cloud
is for real. Yeah, for a while, it's like people
are making jokes base pay the fuck out of my bed.
I don't know what you've done wrong.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
No, I get that, but that's like that's what that's
racing though, Like there's a lot of trial and error
and then there's success, but there's a lot of trial
and error to get to where it is, and there's
a lot of like bad fucking luck that happens.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
You know what I mean? Oh yeah, that nights. Like
I said, I think fact like those nine Street top
twos and a fucking tour series, like every bit of
that good luck I'm cashing back in.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Still yeah, yeah, no, I totally get that.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah No. Then around that period of time, so the
throwback stuff I had the candy car was read obviously
if we had thirty three, thirty three, like it has
been my number since like two thousand and eight, I
started off with the one.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
So how did you get those numbers? So this is
a question that I ask every driver or racer or
anything like that. I always wonder how they got their numbers.
Is there a story behind it or was it just there?

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Or what was it? So when my dad started, he
picked the number one. I don't know, I think just
because the drag race are saying like, if you're the GG,
got to wear the.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Number one or whatever, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, And then like so he made that my first number.
And when we whenever we moved up polate models, there
was always a local dudes, it was always number one.
Got so the Super he switched to a three because
he was an Earner fan.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
And then yeah, well as I was moving up, like,
I switched to one X. So I was one extra
a long time, even in the supers. And then one
year so because we saw we were running two cars
at the time, so we had my one X, we
had the free car. They switched scoring programs and it
didn't allow numbers, so they outlawed the X. Oh yeah,
we're like, well we got a three, I guess I

(34:26):
need to be a thirty three. Then yeah, and doubled
it up. And then, uh, that's when I kind of
started taking off and winning a bunch of races. That
just the thirty three became my identity, uh, from like
two thousand and eight on.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
When the Sportsman came along, that's the first car I've
ever built myself. Front the back from scratch or whatever.
And I also built it to be kind of a
rental car, like thanks of the business more than my
just my car. So I went back to my original
number for that thing just to kind of stand alone
because it's RF chassy RFD one, you know, and so

(35:02):
I'm it's just the one fit on there, perfect, and
it's kind of a throwback to my original start off
with my number one being in the first car. I
bill blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
It's all just kind of together, kind of cool, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
And then with the throwback scheme stuff, I had that
Red thirty three and we decided to go to the
cars to a throwback race and that would have been
nineteen twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, that's yes.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, So I did the Winston scheme. I had the
Jimmy Spincer Winston car and people fucking loved it, like
it just it went off huge. I ended up leaving
that ski on there, that tire almost the rest of
the time I had that car, and they let people
you know, just you know, kept called the throwback car.
And then I changed it to like a Miller Highlights throwback. Yeah,

(35:48):
and that you know, people still talked about or whatever,
and whenever I sold that car. We went to the
throwback race two years ago, I think two years ago,
and we had a white car at the time, and
that's when I did the Dale Junior Baseball car, the
two thousand and one car.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I'm telling you, you should have had your sister fucking
paying bring out her fucking fingerpicks and ship down your helmet.
That was fucking I mean, that was just fucking cool,
because like that was you don't see that. You don't
see it anymore.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
That was the car. Yeah, and I and dude, there
was some killer looking throwbacks that year, and I won
the five hundred dollars gift card or whatever for bets
the peering car. Yeah, everyone, and that so many people
are like, because I mean, dude, you every time you
watch that replay, it's like you got to stop and
watch the whole thing exactly. It was such a big

(36:42):
moment for for every fan. It's not just like, hey,
my favorite dude one that night, like the entire sports
celebrated that win. And I'm like, dude, I got a
white car with red trim on it. It's fucking perfect.
I got to do the baseball car.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
And h Yeah that's had his whole crew like sliding
through the infield grass.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah I remember that, and I was and and Michael
are standing on the roof together. Yeah blah blah blah. Yeah,
that was a huge moment for just motor sports. Felt
a y. So then I became the throwback guy.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Throwback guy, Yeah, first name Thauy.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
There he is. Then Doozio's car, like the car I
just got done practicing. We did the Miller Highlight throwback
on it. So it's it's red in the front, white
back cap with a little star and stuffing like that
with gold trim and and you know everyone loves that thing.
So like when I was sup, I decided to build
my car because I'm like, well I need a house

(37:38):
car and stuff I can go practice with trice up
blah blah blah blah. And so I when I build
that thing, my first thought I was going to do
the city Chevy car the green and yellow with a
black But it's like, couldn't for for the outlaw body
don't do in green And I'm not wrapping up sucking
out laws in final.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Sorry no, Yeah, A bunch of fun.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Those guys are way too rough to fucking yeah yeah, yeah, no,
I get that. So I'm like, well they do yellow,
and like I really Dad has this like license plate
hanging over the fridge in the shop and it's got
like the eighty seven Wrangler car and has that that
Wrangler car the deal Junior drove in like twenty ten

(38:18):
Incinity rays for children.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
They're looking at him like you know what, I bet
that ship was a fucking good on a wedge body.
And that's where it came from when I first started together.
Because it's like yellow in the front, blue in the
back and everything like did you get a break on
aluminum for cheap? Why is it all random color that.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
I just.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Oh, oh, hold on, I think we lost them for
a second, that.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
That's the best looking car.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Hold on, you gotta get you gotta go back and
uh we got you cut out for a second. It
was you were talking about how it was all missed
mixed match sheet metal land.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
It was yellow in the front, blue the back, the
roof was still black. I hadn't read it yet. Everyone
was like what what what the fuck are you doing?
You get like a discount on people illuminum or something,
And I'm like dude, I have a vision. Wait till
I'm done. You're gonna love it. And like when they
came together, I'm like, oh my god, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
No, I totally get it. When was the first time
you brought that car to the World Series?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Uh? Well, I ran it at the Snowball with the Outlaws.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yes, not the World Series Speed Week, Sorry, but you
get my point.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Well that's what they call it, the World Series.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Okay, all right, I was close.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
So I know. I ran it at the Snowball a
couple of years ago. I want to say last year
is the first time it actually went to speed all right.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Maybe it was Snowball where I saw it. I don't
know where the fuck I saw it. I think it
was like the first time I brought it to the.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Kurvey because I was the dude they got fucking fun
out because cars are wrecked and I checked up cutchuring
around in the last late motherfucker cut through the crash.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
That's what it was. Yes, Because I remember that, I
was like, yeah, that was the.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
First day on that car. This goddamn we looked at
race Cuner dude was running twenty third and drove all
the way through the crash and it's a goddamn bright
blue and yellow car sitting there in the center of
the racetrack.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yes, yeah, right, yeah, that's fot on. Because I looked
at James, I was like, oh, I wasn't fucking smart
by that guy. What the fuck is going on there?

Speaker 3 (40:29):
I got out, I got yellowing and screaming, and he
his hands up. I'm like, what what.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
You can't see the yellow fucking car out here?

Speaker 3 (40:42):
And those are those cars are way different too. Like
I went up there, I put a six on forward
in for that race. Yeah, but like you're allowed coilovers
white five like that. That's a totally different division. But
I'm like, you know what, I got this pretty motherfucker done.
I want to go race it. And I brought it
up there and promptly ran over by the dead last
place car, and uh then it set for about six
months before I cared about it again.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I'd feel the same damn way, because you just like
you just went through that whole fucking ship and then
you just have the guy that's three seconds off the
damn pace.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
I built this beautiful car, brand new, first first time
ever building a new car, dude, and that thing that
car has the first ever since we've been racing, the
first time we've ever bought a brand new carburetor, transmission,
or engine. Like we've never had any of those three
items brand new before. Like between my money and that

(41:34):
dad chipped in on the motor. Yeah, I spent a
ship time and Michael Hinstad helped.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Me out on Oh good ship right there, Michael Hines, Yeah, yeah,
good ship.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah. Like they gave me five grand towards towards the build.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
That's yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, Like you want to put my name on the hood,
I'm your name's on the hood as long as I
have the car, because that's the most sponsor money I've
ever had my life.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Like I went to the tattoo parlor and be like,
where you want it.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
For life?

Speaker 1 (42:05):
No, I totally get that. Yeah, no, yeah, fucking yeah.
I would act the same damn way, and we like,
you're on this for life, So if we have a
fucking record, I'll bring you back the hood.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yeah. Yeah, super good family. Like I do work for
them on the side whenever they're behind, like I've done
like a couple of uh not many bodies for him.
When Michael was racing and the borilder stuff. But yep,
and like repair work. I did a modify for them.
Blah blah blugs whatever they need done. Like they're all

(42:35):
because they live about forty forty minutes from me.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Okay, that ain't bad. I mean Mike, Yeah, Mike, Michael
is a great kid. I mean he's pretty cool. I
mean I talked to him a little bit and he's
just a great kid. And he's still humble about everything,
you know what I mean. But he still wins too,
you know what I mean. Yeah, he just hangs out.
He's just like, I don't know what they're all fucking
mad about, but I'm just I'm here. Yeah, he's just like, yeah,

(43:02):
that's fucking cool.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
When I got that car done, man, Like there's six
six months. I finally put it back together and went
out and I ran Second the first night with it,
had a Sportsmen and then since then I ran it.
Think I ran Second one more time with it, and
then I rented it out to UH to pay Rogers
for rev drove it at speed weeks super fastive practice
just had bad luck and raise like we got a
kind of bad tire first night, like Hoosier. We were

(43:30):
like literally she's first or second every round we're going
to qualify, and almost spun out twice in the same quarner.
Come in the right group. Punch is like twelve point
trger than the other three. So I had to put
an old tire on the car to start to fucking race.
Drew it from twelfth up till like fourth or fifth
or something for aggravating, and then the second night it
rained out kind much into the race.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
So true, yeah, yeah, I get that, But but.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
For me personally, I've profited almost every night I've driven
that thing. Like I only bring it out to races Center,
the higher paying races. Yeah, and like we won the
Freedom Factory Eates that was thirty five hundred I won.
It was the first night it off fast time, and
then my domas worked cony cards and want to fucking
shocks fell off and I had to pit and drove

(44:19):
from twenty six back to third.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Fucking good Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Personal car gets attention last, But that thing's a hot
rout there. Coppertail got spun out. I set fast time
for fast time and lost the tiebreak or the other
dude's second lef was better. Yeah, got fun out at
the start from you know whatever, we had like big inverts,
so like the midpac dotos or under bumpers star the

(44:48):
race got turned around and drove from twenty first back
to the lead and won in twenty nine laps like
one of the best shows I put on in a
long time. That shit was cool. Yeah, so was the
my kids like her chief and mentor or whatever was
leading about to win his first big race and dude,
but we put on this epic show where like the

(45:10):
picture I posted me out side by side, we were
door to door for twelve of the last fifteen laps.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
And he got a gap on the field while too wide,
like it was the hell of a good night for business.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
That's true. Yeah, no, definitely.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
I want to race the Citrus with it. About a
month and a half ago, like my dad went to
the Keys a vacation, I got home. I got home
on uh because he's trying to finally actually retire someday.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
He'll never retire fully, but he'll he'll scale it back
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
I rented the car out a couple of times to
another guy that used to race like tour boards back
in the day or something. Gotcha and like he bought
a practice set of tires. So I get home and
I'm like, man, Citrus is racing. I got the set
of tires. Like the team laps on him, Like, yeah,
fuck it. I can go out there, not spend the
time and try to make some money back this week
because I was, you know, floating around sucking off in

(46:13):
the keys all week. I had a vacation in a while.
It took the car up there on old tires and
one and I'm like, I had put a thousand bucks
in my pockehead that home.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Cool Jesus with old tires. Yeah wow, that must have
been really disheartened in some son of a bitches there.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I know that Kataldi was coming in a hurry. I
know that through traffic faster than him and got a
gap on him, but he was he was on his way. Yeah,
about two more laps. I don't think it was gonna work,
Like I just we We started eleventh and twelve and
I got out front and got away and he was
running me down in a hurry.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yeah, you know Cataldi is no slouch.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah no, no, no, no doubt, no doubt at all.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Was actually for him up like last year that was fun.
We were we were really fast and just try a
little too hard qualifying in fact the defense and like
had to completely rebuild the entire body in between qualifying
a m time, like had the back window out of it,
like quarter panels off and made it out there, drove
her last and the bmate all the way up the

(47:18):
transfer in and ended up like in the middle of
the back in the future. Like that was a crazy day. Yeah,
and then they were racing against each other again, you
know a few weeks later or whatever. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Well, yeah, you get to help people out and then
you go and race against them too. I mean at
the end of the day. That's what I mean. We
have a guy up here named George. He does the
same thing. I mean, he he'll build a street stock
and then he'll come and race you that weekend with
his you know what I mean. He don't care. Yeah,
it's just one of those things. He just enjoys racing
and he enjoys putting stuff together. My big question is like,

(47:52):
how did you how did you learn all this stuff?
Did your dad teach it? Did someone bring you onto
your wing to start doing fab when you first did it?
Or was it like through school or what did you do?

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yeah, pretty much. Just my dad's not a great teacher,
but he's he's a really good fabricator, and I just
basically had to just pay a lot of attention. He's
a type like I remember the first time he opened
up a transmission in front of me and I'm like, say,
that looks like fucking sorcery. He's like, what, it's easy.
I'm like, well, I've never seen it before.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, I get it.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
You've been doing it thirty years longer than I had.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
I totally get that. Yeah, but just be just.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Absorbing being around the tracks or around the shop, around
cars constantly. Yeah. Like I I remember, I scored like
in the top one percent of the state in fucking
whatever standardized testing in high school. Like I probably should
have done something smarter than just fucking work on radars.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
But hey, you're making it work.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
But my brain decided to care about so here'd be
so hard.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, I mean, hey, I mean it makes you happy
at the end of the day, you know what I mean,
And you get to enjoy it every fucking day. I
mean I would killed to not make like I'm a
C and C guy. And I fucking make guns all day.
I'd rather be working on a fucking race car, you
know what I mean. It's just how I'm just happier
doing that. I don't know, it's just weird and it's cool, like.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
The relationships he building this stuff, like with with the
Sosios for instance, Like they were my first customer when
I started doing this, and now like now he's got
to a prolate model because he's I mean, he's told
me the last race he ran before they came to me,
and he's fun out after getting last, like all by himself.
And now he's finished second, third, or fourth in every

(49:41):
sportsman races year but one. And on that race he
got fucking wreck. Like the kid is literally the most
consistent out there. I mean he's look, he's gonna run
second or third at the worst every fucking race. And
now we've got to pro late in the mix, Like
we won a pro late race that Auberdale ran second
the last racemurder, Like he's the Rackley cars.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Oh true, Yeah, okay, Dad, like.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
A huge deal to sit out run that and you
know a car that I put together and set up
we be from my brain and him like it heard
or fourth race ever on bump stops learning the Raceless
and desires like yeah, it's really And I've been on
their phone, like I've stayed at their house, like you know,
we're like family now. They bring me birthday presents to

(50:25):
the fucking track and the cake and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
That's just one big family. That's what I love about racing.
That's the most fun. I like, everybody knows each other
and like all that stuff, and then you'll go and
fucking race hell together and just remember ship and ship
like that. That's the coolest thing about Yes.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
They're just like they whenever I was supposed to run
that car screw race, they flew up there to watch,
like to support me whenever I'm their cheat and they're
gonna fly all the way to North Carolina to watch
me drive, like really cool ship. And the same thing
with h with Taylor Watson in the twenty five truck
and her dad like that. Yeah, we we flew up

(51:04):
the North Books for last year to watch the first
race back like he see through my plane tickets flew
me up there because and I'm just they're creaky, but
like you know, just working together, you know, like I
treat them fair enough and like they treat me like
family and he's bought me tires for my car and
blah blah blah blah, and.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, one hand washes the other.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Yeah, that that shit makes him way more worthwhile. Like
the random jobs to come in where it's like, oh,
I gotta hang another dose of spenders for this fucking
random car or whatever like that they gets keage person
you out of loads. But like watching like Taylor win
that truck race the other day in front of a
huge crowd because it was like five dollars family nights
and the stands. We're back to Samerna and she had

(51:41):
like you know, her grandparents were there and like kids
from school from high school were washing her and like
to when just to sit back and like, okay, I
understand now, like whenever people would put me in their
car and like what you could drive? Why don't you
want to drive? Like gosh, why I want you to go?
I understand now of like the pride you get from
making that moment possible, from giving them a truck fast

(52:02):
to go out there and win and like celebrate with
all their friends and family, and like, yeah, it hits
differently for a grown up thing, I guess, but yeah,
I just want to drive.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, I totally get it. But like
she's been close a couple of times, and like that car,
that truck always came to life like later in the run.
I remember the first time seeing that car after you
like posted about it or not car truck, and I
remember the first time and I watched the race and
I was like, oh, let's see, let's see how it

(52:35):
is and how it goes and all that stuff, and
like that, that truck came to life like right at
the end, like fifteen laps ago or something like that,
and that thing was like fucking moving. I was like, oh, fuck,
these motherfuckers are in trouble. I go, if there's a restart,
it's fucking covered, you know what I mean. So no,
it doesn't at all. She was the most consistent out

(52:56):
of the corner. Everybody else is losing the right rear
and slide in the ass end and she was just
like just stuck and just went I'm like, dude, was
it the first time I watched that truck move? I
was like, goddamn, that thing is fucking trouble.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah, the UF like just got moved in last week.
So now I'm like, well, could.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
The truck could have brought the truck come home?

Speaker 3 (53:22):
I know, I was trying to get the bag to
let me drive it next week in Auberno's got twins
twenty five, but he's gonna be out of town. It's
like he's like, if there's a big money race and
she can't.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Make it, oh oh that'd be even better.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Yeah, every time, I like squeeze myself into the seat
to go out there and practices like my three kids
just thing the rocket.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
No, that's that's cool. But like, like I said, like
you started from and I mean you're still learning every
day and you're still making a name for yourself every
damn day. I mean just recently you just well have
you ran the cars to her before?

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Uh? I guess the first time I've ever been in
a late.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Model stock Okay, so yeah, that's what I mean. Like
the cars Cars Tour, so like not the pro models,
but the actual fucking cars Tour. Gotcha? So how do
go ahead?

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Sorry that that was a huge deal, Like it was
really cool. How many compliments I got from other drivers
because they're like, you've really never driven one of these four.
I'm like, I don't. I'm bounced round all kinds of shit.
So I have DAPT Well, you're like, I literally I
have the track record at Auburndale and a fucking pure
stock right now and at least at least bring camaro.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Oh there you go.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
I'm I'm adaptable, like I raised Crown, big fucking accurism
and neuros like whatever, Like.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Hell, yeah, you want to come run a pure stock?

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Absolutely, I'm not your typical stream Madonna fucking late model
guy and whatever. Yeah, and uh and those things because
they're they're so much different because they're like four hundred
pounds heavier than what I means to drive in that
is a stearing boss, Like the steering box is fucking
slopping compared to the rock the rack. They have truck arms.

(55:06):
I've never driven a truck arm car before. Like that's
a totally different animal, Like I can't the rear and
just a totally different feel. They have single piss and
caliber breaks, so they have to have the same breaks
as my sportsmen, but four hundred pounds heavier. I'm used
to like, you know, the badass super expensive breaks on
a super like you know you can just go in
the corner and stop the motherfucker, like yeah, and they

(55:29):
run a locker like everything down here. We're all in schools,
so I haven't driven a locker in years. And then
I'm just stagger for whatever reason. So like when the
cars snug and you're gonna throttle up to turn it off,
the right rear and gets tighter. I struggled with that,
like yeah, like you just have to be patient, let
it roll on the locker because as soon as you
engage that locker, the car's going straight. And try count

(55:52):
these fresh pavements. So everyone was plowing tight like I
don't remember, dude. Every time I come out, I just
free it up, free it up, free it up, like
we don't want to run the right ger up. I'm like,
it's still tight. You don't have to worry about that yet.
And then it was really cool, like we made that
mock run Friday and I ended up. I was fourth,
and I'm like, wow, I'll probably fall down quite a bit.

(56:13):
And then I kept still looking at my phone, look
at the phone, and they're like, do you want to
go back out now? Let's staying the tires for tomorrow.
We'll have a good, like three lap set to start
on tomorrow, Like I feel like I've got the car
figured out enough. I don't need to go out there
and just clock laps. And I keep looking at my phone.
I'm like and he's like practice almost over, still fucking forth,
Like holy shit, this is cool. And then the next day,
like we qualified nints out of whatever, there was thirty

(56:33):
two and it was I mean a stacked ass field,
like it was eleven hundred set a second.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Yeah, Like I just, oh, yeah, no, those are no
those guys are those fucking slouches, you know what I mean.
That's like the best of the best of late models
in a in a in a in a realm, we'll say,
I'm not gonna have people come from my neck because
of shit, you know what I mean. I Like, that's
like you run it against the best, the best.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Of the best for for that division. And dude, my
spotter was on a third radio at the end of
the race. That's how totally it was. Like fucking it
was like super speedway racing on a fucking small track,
like two or three wide the entire time, and every
time like you get stuck three wide and like I'm

(57:20):
a quarter mile guy, like you're but I immediately like
roll out of the gas to get back in line.
I'm like, oh, oh, there's stacked up two by two
by Like oh I had the fucking race out here, okay.
And also like the top group was the preferred group,
So it's a totally different thing. Like you know, you're
most of ar traves bottom feet at so like yeah,
you get to protect your right rear, like you clear somebody,
and it's like turn right getting into the corner to
get back in the stop. And then's still like the corners.

(57:43):
It was just a totally different heel. They still have
like a stop style transmission. You gotta like clutch pedal
as the ship or like the supper you get just.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Jake it, just pull it back. It's only good with
with the.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
You're on the same tire that I'm used to with
the supers. Yeah, but fourier with the breaking power of
the Sportsman, but like five hundred horse powers so they're
not flugged. Yeah, you like the Sportsman only makes the
six or two flats, so they're three.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Yeah, they don't make a lot.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
They're all corner seat. Yeah, and then the super is
six twenty or whatever, it's all it's points shoot racing,
so like that is true. Definitely, it was digging deep
into my adaptability.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Oh yeah, I was all over the fucking place. I bet, like,
what the fuck am I supposed to I've met sitting there?
You're like, how the fuck do I run this car?

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Yeah? But it was cool, like being pretty competitive right
off the bat and like get the debrief with like
Travis Popple and the fucking bat pro shops car and
like landed Huckson was really cool. I talked to him
a couple of times agout the weekend. Dude.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Awesome dude, Like.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
At the the night, like I walked over and gradually
lem me tagging bullshit for a minute and I getting
real leave. He's like, hey, man, you press the shit
out of me this weekend. And I'm like, that's coming
from the dude who just won the thirty thousand dollars
to win race. Like that was cool. Yeah, he's the castle.
Like we were going through driver intros and he's like, hey,
I just hear your interview. He's never driven when he's afforming. Yeah,
He's like, well you just go fullified me, so welcome.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
All right, So how did that deal come about? Is
that like a home car that you had a deal
with or how did that all come about? Because like
car store, I mean it's not just like anybody can
well they can, but you just bring a lot of
sponsorship with you.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
How did how did you feel? Like I've known the
Carols for for a long time, Like so Joe Winchell
is like really tight with them, and I do work
on his personal car, so like I helped like to
set up stuff and prepare work on his car or whatever. Yea,
And he always drove my dad's Chattis back in the day,

(01:00:03):
just the dad. He's the crew chief on Joe's cards
whenever my dad build them. So now they have their
own teams. So we've always known each other or whatever.
And Joe just was just kept pounding us to make
the deal work out, and I had to bring some
sponsorship to like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I get it, No, I
totally get it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
They definitely cut me in the family discount, like, hey,
we know you're gonna make our product look good. You're
not a movie coming in here. Yeah, they hooked me
up and they gave me something that we could actually
make happen. Y Yeah, I went did it and it
was it was bad ass. Like we're trying to come
up with money to go to Martinsville, which I don't
know that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
I swear to God if you I will, fucking I
will because we're going to Martinsville, me and me and
my co host. We're going to Martinsville. So we already
got like, we got a bunch of like Bowman Gray
guys going, and we got a bunch of our friends
from VA that we know they're going. If you fucking
show up, I need to know how to get in
that damn pit. I don't know how to get in
those damn pits, but I need to find out. I

(01:01:04):
don't know whose list I gotta get on there, but
I need to get on someone. If you go there,
get me on that damn list. I swear to God
because that's cool. I mean, I've always wanted to go
to Martinsville and I've never been. And like, uh, James,
who's our co host, Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
It's thanks so much more than you think it would be.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Oh yeah, it's just like Richmond.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
It looks so flat and TV. I walked in there
for that truck race, it was like, oh yeah, there's
like I mean, it's not like Bristle, but it's there's
like twelve degrees of banking.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Yeah, yeah, no, there's still a good there's still a
good bullering fucking banking to the damp thing. I totally
get that, because like we went to Richmond, and for
the longest time growing up, like they had the Act
Tour and the Past Tour and all that stuff from
up North, and we went down there, and for the
longest time I watched Richmond, I was like, that place
is just fucking flat and just everybody's tight. And and

(01:01:59):
then I get there and we're like we're literally like
sliding down the damn banking. I'm like, holy shit. I'm like,
holy fuck, this is actually pretty banked here. So the
camera very is very deceiving, but yeah, no, Martinsville is
definitely like one of those tracks that I want to
go to. So James brought up like, hey, we should
go to the Late Model shit, and I was like,
sign me up. I'll fucking fly out Friday, pick my

(01:02:21):
ass up and we'll just head you know what I mean,
that's what we're gonna do. So I'm gonna fly in
Friday and then I'm gonna sleep on his couch and
then we're just headed to Martinsville there because I know
a lot of people in Virginia and shit, so I
was like, fuck it, we'll go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, but think going up to walk even
even if I don't raise, they're damn right, I might
have like I might have my car rinted out that weekend,
and if that happens, that pays too well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
But all right, the shop's fucking closed during September twenty third.
I gotta meet Daniel goddamn it. He's gotta sign James's forehead.
But you get my point, Like we're going to We're
going there, and I want to meet like everybody that
I talked to from like down south and shit like that,
because it's just cool because like everybody's close together. Even

(01:03:11):
though you're from Florida, you know people from like North
Carolina and South Carolina and fucking it's just way more
like close together. Like up here, it's not really like that,
you know what I mean. It is to a point
if you're like in the bigger leagues, but not like
here here there everywhere. You can't really travel that much.
We got like eight tracks and that's about it, and

(01:03:33):
then we got to go down to New Jersey that's
like six hours away, so that's not really Yeah, yeah
that too. Yeah we can't. Yeah no, I get your
point there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I went down there one time and I was like, damn.
I was like, I don't know about that. Like Atlantic
City and all that stuff. We go and enjoy that
stuff once in a while and it's a fun time,
but it's like indoors and you got a headache halfway
through the features and you're like, why the fuck are
we running cars in an then closed space? And then
we just go about our day.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
It's just one of those things.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
But the loudest place I've ever been in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Bristol, that place, Oh yeah, it's electric.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
I did get to actually raise the super there for
the first short track nationals like that. To run a
fucking fourteen seventy three and a half mile is insane.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
That's fucking movement, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
The first practice I came in and they're like, well,
howse car am I I'm kind of nauseous, like ship
three overload. I don't know. I think it's bottom of ol.
You guys look at it. I give you a minute,
let me try again.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah, let me just let me get a fucking practice
in we God damn man, I don't know. I've had,
I got.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
I got one of my favorite pictures run free wide
in the middle of Finnish Showenfeld and Humbled and Noah
Gregson and the Kyle Busch car.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Oh that's like I've been.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
I've been buddies, but Noah ever since then, like every
time he stop the bullshit or whatever, like he's super
cool way back, just.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Hangs out. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, no, like yeah no,
that's definitely like one of those things too. It's just
like like it's just so cool because like we do
this podcast and then like we watched people from Afar
and then we meet them or like we talked to
them and they're just like they're just like any person,
like if you went and talked to someone at the
gas station, you know what I mean. It's just so cool.

(01:05:32):
It's just the coolest thing about.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Drivers you could ever meet. Like I raced with him
a bunch back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Oh yeah, no, I met him at the fucking dirt track.
He's like, you gotta I don't think he was. He
was looking for something and I was like, you want
a beer. He's like, no, I don't want that. I
was like, oh, okay, am I bad. It's like I
was like I couldn't hear you. But they had like
the dirt track Nationals or whatever the fuck a new
hands on the speedway the first year of it. That's

(01:06:00):
when I like try to fight like Daniel hemric. Yeah
that was cool. Hopefully I hope he were Yeah, no,
we were not happy. He ran us over, so fuck him.
Still he ran us over. He's a good ship.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
He rescued my dad's wingy dog one time and Pittecola
got out and he found it and brought it back
to it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Well that's cool, man, but I still have to apologize
to him. But I was still mad that night. I
was like, dude, you just ran us the fuck over.
I was like, for three hundred dollars, he just ran
us the fuck over. It was a legend car, so
we didn't give a ship. We're not used to legend cars,
but that was like our best like running. And then
Daniel just some monster trucks the fuck out of us,

(01:06:40):
and I was like, well, there goes that. I was like,
I'll go talk to him. Don't worry you sit right here.
But but it's just so cool because like you see
these people online and and like on the TV and
all this stuff, and then you go and meet him
and do that ship and they're just like regular people.
Like how me and you were talking right now? But
I've been trying for fucking god months, so you need

(01:07:00):
to come off your damn boat once in a while
and fucking you know what I mean. But no, I
appreciate you coming on, dude. This is cool, man, this.
I enjoy this because I've been trying to get you
on for a minute. But I get like, life is life.
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Oh yeah, it's like when you're self employed, like every minute.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
You're not Oh yeah, oh no, I get it. I
totally understood after I met George.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Yeah, I fucking yeah. We went on the boat a
bunch during the summer. But like I'm mostly just fucking
working twelve fourteen hours a day at the shop trying
to between I mean, you have time consuming race cars,
trying to get people's cars done and try to race
like between the super in the sports with myself, Like, oh,
you gotta turn out a lot of freaking work these

(01:07:43):
days to be able to afford a nine hundred dollars
tire bill with for like a forty.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Five that, well, if you're hiring, I'll sleep on your
couch for a couple of months, will help you out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
But there's a lot of times that I'm like, oh
my god, I need somebody to go fucking hell.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Yeah, that's why you just text the friend group and
like six pack for anybody that shows up to hold
this for a goddamn second.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Speaking of speaking of like back in the day, like
people like I shared a beer last night in my.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Driveway with Ernie Urban, like holy ship.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Yeah yeah, he came to my house to drop off
his late models and tore up a couple of months ago.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
And oh he's still he's still doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Yeah, Jared, I guess he's doing like a flight destructing
now and he's living on the other side of the
sea like Carr is sitting here wreck. So I figured
it's like, I heard you worked on cars, so uh,
we got such.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Dude, that's fucking cool, Like Daniel, you fucking talk like
it's fucking nothing, like you just had Ernie Irvan just
come drop off the model because he heard about you.
Are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
He's at my house, like drop it off his late
model like helping me unloaded. Yeah, I was, that's just
a differ.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Yeah, stars struck a little bit. James does the same thing.
We'll have people on. He just sits there and be quiet.
I'm like, hey, you're gonna ask him a question because
we got only I'm fucking running out of shit over here.
But no, that's fucking cool, dude. Like if you look
at it and you like take a step back and
you look at that like you've been doing good and
you've been putting good shit out there. That like Ernie

(01:09:21):
Ervin's like saying like, hey I heard about you. I'm like, ah,
that's pretty fucking cool. I mean, if if someone got
a hold of meats tomorrow and it was like, hey
I heard about you, I was like fucking where I'd
be trying to get whoever I bit. I'm like, dude,
I'm about to send you like a hundred bucks thank
you mention. You know what I mean. But dude, that's

(01:09:42):
fucking cool. And that's what I love about racing is
like it's such a like it's such a small world
that we lose track of, if that makes sense, Like
we have our own shit that we're doing. But like,
you wouldn't think that someone knows about like Ernie Irvin
knows about you, like the fun dude, I would have
been like, what the fuck did he just tell me?

(01:10:03):
You know what I mean? That's fucking cool. That's so
fucking cool.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Oh yeah, And like and there's so many people that, like,
even in the NASCAR world that I'm I'm you know,
I'm friends with outside of racing that it's like there
they seem like they're on this big pedestal because they're
on TV racing, but yeah, they're just like true. I
can I can call Mario Goslin right now and be like, hey, motherfucker,
I want to run the Condity car Martinsville and he'll

(01:10:28):
he'll basically give it to me at costs or do it.
But like, you know, people like that like or b J,
Matt Tip, Scott Hecker, like all those guys. Yeah, models,
Like there's tons of people Josh Williams like up there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Oh he's good ship. I met him at NASCAR, Yeah,
I mean I met him at New Hampshire. He was
cool as ship. And then my buddy slapped my beer
out of my hand onto his like tuxedo shirt, and
I was like, I was like, if you want another one, man,
I'll buy you one. I was like, I'm sorry. I
was like, that guy's a piece of ship. You can
punch him in the head. If you won't, I won't
tell NASCAR's okay. I mean so, so it's just cool.

(01:11:05):
It's like I closed in world as it's a closed
in world.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
I love it so much, Like it's the definition of community.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Literally literally, it's just so crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
I know, I was talking to a friend of mine,
wife's came to the races with him recently. I just
hate this. I don't understand. I'm like, okay, well put
all the car stuff aside. Like I'm friends with Chad,
I'm friends with Joe. We're all pre standing here. You
live three hours in that direction, I live three hours
in that direction, you live eight hours in that direction.
What else are we doing where we would be hanging
out right now? Like it brings us together for the

(01:11:38):
weekend to bullshit, turning, fear whatever, have a good time,
maybe have a bad time, whatever, But like there is
such a community. Come Like I don't talk I don't
think I talked to a single fucking person I went
to high school with, but I have endless racing contacts.
Oh yeah, that I could. You know, I'm in a
buddy of mine's wedding next week. And you know and Tim,

(01:11:59):
the kid that drives you know, the SACURGI for, he's
coming to It's like the kid helps Gerchief in my place.
I'll pay him to come curchie for me whenever I'm driving,
to take care of him. And like he just and
he goes on and on and on, like how many people,
like I mean, group chats I'm in from different parts
of the racing world, like Carolina group chat. I have

(01:12:21):
a local for group chat, and like we're all just
Rascar people the other bullshit about racing. Like it's it's
like I said, if anyone's ever lost in life and
doesn't know how to make friends or whatever, just go
to the fucking racetrack.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Literally, I'm telling you, because like most like you just said,
I didn't really after I graduated high school, I didn't
really talk to anybody. It didn't matter to me. I
just graduated high school. I'm gonna go do my own
thing now. But most of my friends, like I I
look at the people that I like met at the racetracks.

(01:12:53):
I'm fighting this beer right now. Goddamn. Okay, we're good now.
But like the most people that I've met at the racetracks,
they're like my second family. Like that's my second that's
like my second family. Like I just had a son,
and my son hangs out with them more than anybody else,
you know what I mean. So it doesn't, it doesn't.
It's the coolest fucking thing. Like that's the greatest thing

(01:13:14):
about racing, and like people that don't know like that
side of it, and like that's like on the outside
looking in, Like if you're just a fan and you
just go and hang out and you don't know like
who knows who and stuff like that, which most fans
wouldn't know that shit, But they're like, but there's like
there's friendships upon friendships upon friendships or acquaintances or shit,

(01:13:35):
Like this is the coolest fucking It's just so weird.
You just like take a step back and you look
at it and you're like what the fuck. You're like,
how the fuck do I know all these people, you
know what I mean? And I'm like yeah, And then
you go to the track and then then your old
lady's yelling at you because you're fucking two hours after
the damn last check the flag and you're like, dude,
she ain't gonna let me fucking sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Am the last time I came home from Auburndale, Like yeah, yeah,
like stopping for like, oh my god, I need a
coffee to make it home because I'm like six years
and I've dehydrated and trailer home like oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Yeah no. But it's it's so fucking cool because like,
like like I said, you take a step back and
you look at what everything you do, and like doing
this podcast stuff, like I know a lot of people
now and like my good friend George ball fans he
works for Tommy Joe Martin's Racing, and then that went
into colleague racing, and then that goes into a bunch

(01:14:33):
of like Andy Seiss's buddies that I knew before, like
with the Chris Hour team and all that stuff, and
then all that shit, but now they all work for different,
different fucking race teams. So now I know all these
different fucking race It's just so cool. Is really humbling
at the same time, because like you just build friendships
off of beers and then all of a sudden, you

(01:14:54):
got a big ass fucking family, so like it's just
and like and it's the same for you, like you
already making your own ship and now you're doing shit
for other people. And then that turned into Ernie Irvins
fucking sitting in your driveway waiting for you to roll
his damn car out. It's just so cool, like you
take a step back and just do all that stuff.

(01:15:14):
But you can't do it obviously without like your family
and your friends pushing you and stuff like that. Like
when you got burnt out, but you got like a
little distant from everybody, and everybody's like, what the fuck
are you doing? Man, get back in there? Why what
what did you do? Go sell insurance? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,
you were just trying to get away. You were just

(01:15:35):
just trying to get like in a different realm. Like
I haven't rased in two years obviously because I had
my son. But stepping back and like being a fan
and not sitting in the garage every fucking night, I mean,
I mean, I don't I don't mind it, but at
the same time, I'm like, dude, I need to fucking
get back in that damn seat. If I can fit
in it. I don't know that. Fatherwaight is a fucking thing.

(01:15:56):
I tell you what, Daniel, But.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
I'm surprised. I'm it's far without like I don't never
had the right person.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
We got to get you just just well, actually we
shouldn't say that now. You have a lot of good
stuff going for I was gonna say, you just just
start shooting shot fuck it if it lands, it lands,
you know what I mean. But no, I get your point, like, no,
but but you're focused on what you're doing in your buildings. Yeah,
oh yeah, how old are you now? I think we

(01:16:26):
went over the thirty two? I wish was I way off?
Am I six off? I'm six off?

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Ain't I Tuesday?

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
I'll be thirty seven? I was close.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Oh my god, I can't believe that. It's so weird.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Where are we partying and we're going to fucking where
are we going?

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
Probably on the boat?

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Damn right? Oh yeah, no, well I would say that,
but your sister's gonna fucking me mug me if I
don't bring my Dale earned heart jacket. I'm like, I
still have it somewhere. I'm still looking for you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Yeah, we have a boat with centimidator on the side
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
That is true. That's why I was like, dude, I
got a whole fucking jacket. I was like, hold and
I got to find that damn thing. I was like,
he'll definitely let me on there. Ernie's been on your boat.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
He liked it. He hasn't been on it, and he's like, oh,
got that. That's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
That's cool man. He's a cool dude too. I mean
he's just really laid back. But uh, it's just fucking
aimn like just talking to you and just like, I
don't know. It's just crazy because I don't I never
like take a step back and know who I know
or like look at who I know or what they
do or anything like that. But like, I don't know,

(01:17:33):
it's just the weirdest fucking thing but the coolest thing
at the same time. I don't know, it's just weird
to explain, I guess I'm just rambling here.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
How white spread?

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Yeah, literally, I mean I don't want to be a
part of that many group chats, but I get your point.
Yeah them, yeah, yeah, no, I put I'm I'm a
part of group chats. I just take the notifications off
because I'll be trying to work and fucking all that
shit's going on. But it's great read when it's like
three o'clock in the morning your ship face and you're like,

(01:18:03):
what the hell have you been yelling about? But but yeah, yeah,
so but I appreciate you taking my damn call, thank god.
But what what is on the what's on the docket
for the rest of the year. I mean, I know
racing's your year round out in Florida for Fox's sake, So.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
What I need to and we'll get the sketchule.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Honestly, I know I'm the same way. I'm just like
fucking figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Tomorrow SRL Series at Auburndale for Sportsman. Next week I'm
crewchiefing him in the Pro Late at Auburndale on Saturday,
and then Sunday Showtime has a two thousand and fifty
for Sportsman, So probably if tomorrow night goes well, we'll
go do that on Sunday. The following weekend is the wedding,

(01:18:53):
otherwise we would be in the supers. Yeah, but I
gotta go where Talks or some ship after that is
twins fifties at Auburndale, So they took the whole summer off.
Now they're just pouring on all the big races, Like
tomorrow's their first night back since the end of June.

(01:19:14):
I want to say they just rained Baxter so much,
like they took us a lot of time off. Oh yeah, smart,
because like it rained. I've been rained on every day
I've been to New Commerna this year.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
It's been raining up here non fucking stop. We haven't
had any good we had Like first, like four weeks
of racing up here was good. But we don't have
a year round snow falls soon. So like the first
like month was good, and then after that it was
just a ship show up here. It was just a
horrible time. We've been pissed off every fucking week. It's

(01:19:51):
literally how it is. So you've mentioned the SRL thing.
What happened there was a lot, I mean I remember
seeing a couple posts and stuff like that. What happened
to like that whole series, the Sportsman series. What what
happened that it just went away? Did tracks just start
taking y'alls off? Or what happened? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
They like Citrus Speedway, like we've that's been a mainstay
in the series, Like they changed, they changed management a
couple of months ago or the beginning of the year,
whatever the hell it was, and basically just said we
don't want any series races and canceled all of them,
like there was even supposed to be an SRL National
race there. And then they got rid of all series
for the new people for and raised all the prices

(01:20:34):
a ton and aggravating the ship out of everybody. It
sucking sucks because I live a half hour from there.
That's my home track, and yeah, driving a new Smurna
or Auburndale the race now and four seventeenth Speedway is gone.
The least changed hands and the people came in and
bulldozed it, fucking super depressing. That track was really fun,

(01:20:58):
the Freedom Factory. It's just it's tough because like, they
don't race, they don't need racing to make money there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
They're not a racetrack. That motherfucker has money. He can
do the crowd vix or the fucking goddamn Danger Rain.
You watch that Danger Anger race. God fucking damn. Oh,
those crazy son of a bitches. Man, No fucking way,
I would not. I wouldn't even know how to fucking
run that track, even with a full car, not a
fucking ranger, and then the guy's fucking hopping one guy

(01:21:29):
and he's rolling over and he's collecting that those crazy
son of It's just cool at the same time. But yeah,
like you said, like they don't need weekly racing to
make money there. They just do the one on one
drags down there, and that brings in a lot of people.
I mean, it packs it more than actually the circle
track racing that we brought down there, but we the
first time we went, but it was cool that they

(01:21:51):
added to late models and shit there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Yeah, the Big Lee Race is gonna be massive, man,
like when we go there on Thanksgiving weekend because it's
thirty thousand them to win. Like last last couple of
years we had over forty cars at mounta Gorda, And
I think being Freedom Factor is just going to create
even more buzz. Yeah, I think it's gonna be huge.
Like we I ran sixth last year. It was really cool,
Like I qualified kind of crappy and I was like

(01:22:16):
sixteenth or something like that, which a man gets that
a forty is not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
But yeah, yeah that's not bad at all.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
I was getting up through the pack and like I
got to where I could kind of watch Majeski and
Kraus and those guys in their line, and they were moving,
like moving around and and really making the second second
half way work, and I kind of started following them
up there, and that was that was a blast because
like so many of our tracks, these bottom feed and now,
like like that place normally is like left round the rumble,
left around, ruble, left ro on the rumbles, and like

(01:22:44):
next thing I know, I'm like in the third fucking
groom and like drove by all the Florida cars other
than that, well obviously the end winn. Yeah, but getting
a race with like, you know, truck series racers and
kind of studying on a green run what they're doing
and how to move around to kind of mimic what
they're doing, like that was pretty cool. Ship. Yeah, Yeah,
that was that was fun. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
No, that's like that's another thing like when you go
from like not saying local, I mean you do still
run big series, but you're running against bigger guys, they'll
just fucking they'll show you something different. Like not many
people can say, hey I ran against tym Majeski or
Derrek Krause and they showed me, Hey, there's a fucking
through third crew here, you know what I mean. So
it's just the coolest fucking thing. I think that's the

(01:23:26):
coolest thing about racing is that like there's people from
different levels and then they all just come together for
one big fucking race and it's like the Snowball Derby
or the or the Speed or the Speed Weeks or
the Burdlin Money in the Bank Race and ship like that.
Like there was like eight on nine, Yeah, the Oxford

(01:23:47):
raced is this weekend pissing fucking rain right now? Like yeah, yeah, no,
it's just just continue to piss rain. It's a pool
party up in Oxford right now. But but that's a
cool Like they had like nine or ten fucking NASCAR
League drivers in that whole crowd, and then they're running
against people like Kyle Busch's spotter and Derek Neeling and

(01:24:10):
our good buddy Dereck Griffith, and they're fucking just moving around.
They're all racing against each other, and like, he's just
the coolest fucking thing. And then Bubba Pollard fucking absolutely
mops the whole damn field with no fucking problem. And
he's a local guy, you know what I mean, he's
still local to me. I don't care, he's still a
local guy. He just knows his shit, you know what

(01:24:30):
I mean. He's really good at what he does.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
And he's another one like I've been fucking hammered drunk
in a strip club with him, or like we're like
breaking at a hotel. Like he's just super cool, laid back,
like he's just he's just Bubba.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Like yeah, no, he's just like that in general. He's
just the nicest guy. He's just hanging out. Like when
he first came up to the two fifty, there was
like so much there was a lot of buzz. Obviously
it's Bubba Pollard, but like he's really good at what
he does. And then he came up and he's like
surround and he's just like so calm, cool and collecting.
He's like, how are we doing? Everybody? He's cool. Yeah, yeah, no,

(01:25:07):
he's just hanging out. He's just living life. But yeah,
I know, it's just so cool. But yeah, I know,
we have the two fifty up here. And then but
like like I was saying, like everybody just comes together
for a big money race, like the thirty thousand to
win for the Sportsman, right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
For you guys, the thirty thousands for the supers.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Supers okay the Supers. Yeah yeah, so what what would
that be like what like Michael Hines and all those
guys run.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Or what is it? Yeah, for for that be like
it would be Majeskie Okay, gotcha, he'll be back. Yeah,
hind I'll be there, like Bubba will be there. I
don't know if any of the Donny Wilson cars will
come because it's it's a week before the derby, so
I can get it loses some of the big teams,
but yeah they like like so last year Majestie and

(01:25:54):
crowds came down and Bubba came well yeah I think
Bubba was there. I can't remember now, but he'll be
there for this, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
That big of a payment, like those guys chase the money.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Yeah, but yeah, that's how they that's how they break even.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Oh yeah for Yurka big and he'll be there like
there a there's a bunch of a bunch of good ones. Yeah,
I'm trying to think of the field. Last year it
was was pretty bad ass actually last year, like uh,
I think Gabe Summers came down. He was there, the
black fifteen Pery car.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Uh. Think of some other big namors that were from
out of state, but there was quite a few. I
think it's a Saturday of Thanksgivings, like think Mae Thursday
and then practice Friday, race Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
That's a lot. That's a lot of getting people out
there to do that. But they will. If it's thirty
grand you know what I mean, racing still runs. We'll
bring turkey to the damn track. I don't care. We're
going to be there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
Oh yeah. And it's like the six or seventh year
we've done it, and they've had like over forty cars
the last two years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Yeah, So it doesn't really matter. I mean in the
racing world, that doesn't. Racing always comes first, no matter.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
What comes first.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
Always, always, you can bring that damn turkey dinner all
the way to down to the damn track. Will be
in the enclose trailer. We can do whatever right in there,
bring the paper plates. It's just one of those things.
Oh man, I don't know what else can I ask you?

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
All Right, I'm about to stop and get me some taco.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Belling there you go. Hell, yeah, no waffle house for
this man. He's going to Taco Bell. Yeah. So what
is your biggest goals? Like going out through life and
all that stuff. I mean, you're thirty seven. I ain't
gonna say you're slowing down. I ain't gonna say that.
But you're at You're at your You're at your Uh
what is it? Your your your best years? I guess
as a chassis builder, you know you're most of your shit.

(01:27:48):
You're not young and dumb unless you got twelve beers
in you, which I totally understand. But you know what
I mean, like, what is your biggest goals that you're
trying to shoot for? Are you just happy where you are,
just like just riding it out or what is it?

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Yeah? I mean I definitely eventually want to figure out
how to be a little bit more profitable with the
business because it's like, which sucks. In today's times. I
make way more money than I ever have, and it's
not as much as it was a year ago with
the lovely fucking government throwing inflation up like insanely. No,
yeah time, Yes, I'm assuming you're not a liberal.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
No, No, I'm not trusting me. I ain't. We ain't
gonna go into it because but I get your foot.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
Yeah, no, I get Youre's like if you would have
told me I made this much money like ten years ago,
like oh my god, I'm rich. But now it's like
I can afford my truck payment. Okay, what else that's better?
All right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
My toole worker put it fast. He's like, the twenty
dollars bill is worth a five dollars fucking bill right now.
It don't matter if you're trying to buy a five
dollar thing is twenty bucks, no matter where the hell
you go, three things is twenty bucks now. It's just
it's just one of those things. It's hard. It's hard
to race. It's hurting racing too, really bad.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Yeah. I mean it was like I just stopped at
the gas station already get sacks on the way of
the track. It was like fourteen bucks for like the
red bull and a pedia life and like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
That doesn't sound like snacks, that sounds like recovery.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
You are right over there, I mean long drive. So
I wanted a red bulls and well hot yeah yeah,
but I just I don't know. It goes to be
a little bit more business smarts where I can like
grow the business, yeah, and build like my own shop,
you know, the organizes the way I want to and everything,

(01:29:40):
and just trying to figure outw to be a little
bit more profitable a man's shop.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Oh yeah, okay, gotcha? Okay, yeah, No, I didn't know
if you had your own thing or anything like that.
So yeah, as you were saying, yeah, just to.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Be able to lay it out a little bit fanci
or a little bit better like the way I want it.
Just stuff like that. Just try to uh, how to
grow the business to be more going forward to where
I can to make it more profitable.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you can feel better about fucking
not having to go out there at fucking like five
am and you get back in at fucking eleven pm
and you're just onto the next day, you know what
I mean. I totally get that. Any any big races
other than Freedom Factor, do you got circle?

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
That's definitely the biggest one. I think I'm gonna run
the Governor's Cup too. I believe I haven't ran that
race in a long time. The two Las yere in
finale every year. Yeah, probably gonna do the cups in
in the the big Lee race and then we do
have one more freedom factories also for the Sportsman's for
s r L, like you know, over sometime, gotcha and

(01:30:54):
I don't know, maybe Martinzilla if I get.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Yeah, hell yeah, I don't know who your sponsors are,
but I'll get a hold of them too, Like, hey,
come on, give me money.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Yeah, I want to go do fancy racing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Yeah no, that's fucking cool. I mean, I I've never
been to Martinsville. Definitely should kick it off with like
the Late Models that I absolutely enjoy watching anyway, So yeah, yeah,
put on.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Such a good show because they're like they're heavy, don't
drive that good, and you can hunt around and run
different lines and stuff. And it's like as much as
I love my super late Models, like I've grown up
in supers whole life, Like they don't always put on
the best race because there's just you go whatever the
fastest groove is and you drive your ass off in
that line. Like yeah, there's not not a lot of
times you can hunt around and really spread out and

(01:31:40):
unless unless the track's really good that night or whatever,
like it's it's the late Model docks, like you can
just do so much more line hunting with those things
that they end.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
It puts on a better show because if you like
eat your shit apart, like before the last competition caution,
that's what you got, Like fucking okay, So yeah, we
didn't even go into it. Tri County was wholly totally
fucking fuel city Gate. Holy fuck, everybody's run out of
gas and all that ship and like, I felt so
bad for bottom.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
In my life I've had I've had to like save
fuel under I'm not used to this.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Someone helped me.

Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
What is it? The deal with that is you could
only do tires or fuel on a stop.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
It's one or the other.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
They want to get their fuel stop done as early
as they can so when they come later, you grab
your tires and maintain your track position. So that's why
I was in the same boat, Like my teammate ran
out of gas that Jacob Hester in the ninety five car.
He is running out on the lab caution and I'm
like I probably would have too. I don't know if
I was saving enough, Like it's not a normal skill

(01:32:48):
for me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Yeah you got that. Probably you got the guys that
are used to running the car store running out butter
beans lead in the fucking race by half a track
runs out of fucking fuel. Yeah, Like it's just honey
cut honeycutt too.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
And then and then it was uh oh yeah that
was right at the end. That was that was definitely
a kick in the deck right there. But uh and
then you just had landing that just came on at
late as a motherfucker and just went and I was like, damn.
I was like, whoever was the crew chie for that?
Fucking you're doing really good, doing really good. That was

(01:33:24):
a good call right there. But it was just cool.
It was just literally fuel fueld gate going on out there.
That was a long ass fucking race. I ain't gonna lie,
holy shit. I'm like, holy fuck. I'm like, there's sometimes
that they need to just put a penalty box. But
you can go sit there for a couple of laps.
You're going keep running into people got in.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Which you know, this is funny. I was watching a
dirt race on Flow last night wherever the Lucas cars
were at. Yeah, and like the whatever, like the scramblers
or whatever, the's like their ministock class came out and
the announcer said, like they have a thing there where
if your class run the whole feature green did, every
driver gets a free pit pat for the following week.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
That's pretty cool. That's way better than just giving them
a fucking time limit, Like like there's some tracks that
just give you a time on me. If you can't
make the time limit, whoever's leading you won, congrats wait
to be there.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
Like they actually give them a present for doing a
good job. Yeah, yeah, get a free arm man if
they run green to checker. Yeah, that's funny. I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
I just want to know how rough it was back
in the damn day that I have to go to
this so they'd stop fucking running each other over. But
it's just one of those things. Everybody's hungry. Everybody will
be hungry. I mean, especially in today's world with how
the money is, everybody's gonna be happy.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
But oh yeah, the situational awareness in racing is way
lower than it used to be.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
Yeah, and I'm looking past your fucking hood pins and
all that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
Yeah, the days of like, hey, this guy's way faster,
I'm just gonna let him go and try to follow him, Like,
oh no, that's a lot start. Yeah, Like it triys
me not to talk to Mason Diaz for a while
about that. He's kind of wild and it's like, you know,
I told my spot or whenever he was, whenever he
was sitting there backwards, whenever rigged something like, hey, let
me know what Mason gets to be. I'm just gonna

(01:35:12):
let him go because he's gonna be on a mission,
uh huh. And he's like, yeah, that's smart, Like I
probably would have moved you. He has no chill about it.
And like some people, you know that, So just if
they're faster, just let them go and try to follow
them because they're gonna make a.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Hole, yeah, exactly, and then people will just race. Yeah,
and then people will just race the hearts out and
don't understand but where they are. But at the same time,
I mean, that's in the that's in the drivers like
hands too. Like if you know you're faster than the guy,
then give him a couple of minutes and then you

(01:35:47):
can just get into him a little bit and just go.
He ain't got to go out there and just absolutely
run the fucking whole dump truck right through him. Just
give him a tap, you know what I mean, Like
up here, it's fucking horrible for that ship. You'll have
the fast guy get dumped or something like that, and
then he comes up through the field and there's a
fish of plow right on the damn front of that car.
I swear to God, just hammers someone. I'm like, Damn,

(01:36:09):
that guy barely gets to the track. You just knock
the damn front rear clip right down off the damn thing.
So it's just it's just one of those things. It's
a it's a it's a seesaw fucking thing. Yes, the
person that knows who's coming through the field should be
aware who's coming. But at the same time, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:36:29):
for fuck's sake, man, let me put my feet on
the damn pedal. I totally get that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Yeah, but yeah, no, that was that you can't tell
either one of them which one's wrong, because.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
Oh yeah, no, I don't even argue that shit. I
just wish more apologies would happen if people tell if
they were wrong. I know one thing that I was
always like prideful of is that, like, if I fucked up,
I went to no matter if they wanted to punch
my damn helmet off my head, which I never wore
my helmet. I was definitely ready to get fed one

(01:37:00):
time and a couple times probably, but I would go
over and I apologize for it, and like that was
a lost thing when I got back into race and
people wouldn't. People would absolutely drive monster truck the shit
out of me and just tell me it was my
damn fault. And I was like, oh, okay, all right,
I got your number, buddy, I'll put you right on
Damn dash, fuck you man, Damn Like I get it.

(01:37:23):
If I fucked up, you could tell me how I
fucked up, but you just tell me I fucked up
and just walked off. I'm like, all right, cool, fuck me.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
We're not gaining any respect right now.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Yeah. I was like, all right, that's fine. I got
fucking six other cars in the yard. We'll figure out
who which one we're gonna just keep drilling you with.
So no, it's just one of those things. And like,
I don't know. Yeah, like you said, you can't really
argue about it because it's a seesaw thing. Like he
thinks he's right, you think you're right, is what it is.
Until the video comes out. Oh that's another thing that
needs to happen. Float in the middle of a damn race,

(01:37:58):
Like halfway through a race, just put mics right in
the fucking faces of drivers that were pissed off, and
I was like, oh, these are gonna be great fucking
sound bites, and they were. They fucking world Like, Yeah,
that wasn't the fucking smartest, but holy shit, is that entertaining?
But yeah, but man, it was cool to fucking sit

(01:38:20):
here and fucking laugh with you and finally got got
to talk to you for more than two week reply
rate God fucking damn it. Uh, but but I get
it you yeah, yeah, no, you're busy. Now. I now
I got the whole realm of it, and like the
whole understanding of it is like you're fucking you're you're
one hundred and ten at all times, even if you're

(01:38:41):
trying to sleep. So I know, I get, I totally understanding. Like, like,
I appreciate you taking the time to like talk with
us on the on the podcast even though you just
went and sweated your great heart out in a race
car so you can get ready for tomorrow. They're like, uh,
what's it on pit Road TV? If you all got
pit Row TV, make sure he goes check out Daniel.

(01:39:02):
He's hell a wheel man. He does pretty good unless
he's backwards on the track, and then the guy in
twenty third absolutely stadium shots the fuck out him. I'm
like at the County Fair. But dude, I was like, dude,
when that happened, I was like, that poor son of
a bitch. I was like, James was like, it's because
he cheered for him. I was like, James, you need
to shut the fuck up. How about that. But like

(01:39:25):
I said, man, I appreciate you coming on and like
short notice and doing all that stuff, and hopefully we
can do this on your boat or something like that.
You said he wanted the face time. Yeah, you said
he wanted the FaceTime. I was like, I don't do FaceTime.
Fuck that shit. But no, no, I get it, No,
I get it. I just had to make a joke.
I'm always a jokeser. But yeah, no doubt. I have
to find my earn heart jacket so your sister will

(01:39:46):
let me on the damn boat. But we'll do that.
That'll be a cool fucking episode all together. But but
what are some of the sponsors that help you out.
I want you to be able to shout them out
and do all that stuff, because they help you out
a lot and all that stuff. And obviously you can
shout out your own hands if you won't.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
Yeah, I mean, for the for the most part, it's
my music card.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Shout out to Capital one.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Uh yeah, like Exquisite Pools helped out a little bit,
Hisco pumps South they rent the car every now and then,
so I put THEE in my pocket and uh, you know,
Mike got called me, helped out with the initial build,
and then my dad he helped out. Obviously. It's obviously
helped out a lot with the super super we're partnered

(01:40:37):
on the theory. But like he does most of the
tire buying all that type of stuff. So Webster Race
Cars is him. And that's about it. Man, RFD. Just
work my ass off and try to rely on the
car to help pay for itself.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
Yeah, no, I hear that. And like the other question
I have is like where can people where can people
find you on? Like Facebook or Instagram or what what
do you use? Usually you're talking ship on Twitter or
something or where.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Are you Instagram? Obviously Webter one x l M on
on like a Instagram and Snap obviously like one x.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
That this guy shouting out his Snapchat he's single.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
But as you're saying my name on Facebook or right
foot down Motorsports for the Race of Page.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
Yeah, we gotta make sure we go and like that
and follow that. I appreciate you showing internet and stuff.
I think I followed you, but I ain't sure. I
can't remember. I was at work. I don't know. We'll
find out. We'll thun wrestle later, but no, I definitely want.
I hope I'll get to meet you at Martinsville and
hopefully you bring the whole damn family so I can
meet the whole damn family and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
But if we're reaching, we'll all be there.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
Perfect. I'll thumb wrestle all y'all. I don't care, but
you get my point. It would be cool to meet you,
and if not, I'll fly down to Florida. We'll go
sit on your boat for a week, hang out, do
all that stuff. You know what I mean. But like
I said, man, I appreciate you coming on and doing
this stuff and talking with us and stuff like that.
I know you're a busy fucking man, now I do.

(01:42:19):
I thought you just hated me. I was like, man,
what the fuck did I do? This guy.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
But just like today, I had to load two cars,
drive all the way down there, unload it by myself,
pick out three sets of tires, go out and practice,
come back and load it back in the trailer, and
walk the trailer up at head home. Then go get
my car for tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
I'm telling you, if your couch is comfy, you can
hire me. I don't care. Twelve pack of race if
I can drink after the race, I'll do twelve pack of.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
Rais Absolutely we can make that happen.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
Yeah, I'm down for that. But like I said, man,
thank you for coming on. We'll probably do like a
part two when you do even more crazy fucking shit.
Hopefully you get like a get you get a lot
of sponsors, and you can get a lot of people
that follow you along, like Ernie Irvin. That's fucking that's
fucking really cool. But like at the same time, you're
you're building your name every damn day, you're a chassis guy.

(01:43:11):
You're you're doing good stuff. You're doing a hell of
a thing, and like that's that's just fucking cool to see.
Like you started just doing your own stuff and now
you're doing stuff for everybody. So uh, like I said, man, like,
we'll fucking do a part two when we're both older
and fucking don't remember where the fuck we are how
But no, I definitely gotta get I definitely gotta get
on the boat. I gotta come out and fucking enjoy

(01:43:32):
the intimidated bro. That'd be a cool, cool fucking thing.
But man, go enjoy your fucking taco bill. Hopefully some
people snapchat you after this goddamn ship. I don't know,
we'll find out. I definitely, I'm definitely gonna add that.
I've never heard that in my life, so I'll definitely
go add it. But uh, but that's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
It was so cool to meet you. I appreciate you
taking the time out of your day and all that
stuff well in your night, your race life, whatever the
fuck you wanna call it. I definitely appreciate it, man,
I do. Yeah. Man, we'll fucking yeah, we'll send you
a shirt or something, a sticker. We gotta start a
large damn can. I mean, I haven't fitting lars since

(01:44:12):
high school. I'm fucking envying you anyway. Like I said, man,
I appreciate you coming on and like short notice, go
enjoy your taco bell and uh, yeah no, hopefully I
will definitely be in contact. If you go to Martinsville,
I will be there. I will bring up I'll have
you sign James's forehead and that's why we'll call it call.

(01:44:33):
But yeah, no, man, I appreciate you. Thank you very much,
A you as well.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
So that was Daniel fucking cool ass, dude. It's so
cool that you start from the shop and you're just
building your own damn stuff, and then all of a
sudden you're meeting people from NASCAR and you're doing all
this stuff, and you're making cars work for other people,
and you're just making a name for yourself just out
of your own damn shop. And that's why I love.
That's all. I love short track racing because if you

(01:45:02):
take a step back and you look at how many
people you can meet throughout your life. I've known I
know people, not even from this podcast, before this podcast
even started, from VA to North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia,
all that stuff, just meeting people through other people and
doing all that stuff. But we have also met a
lot of people because of the podcast, from east to west,

(01:45:24):
north to South. People listen to us in like Michigan
and New Mexico and Texas and all this shit, and
we just had, like we have like twenty people that
listen to us in Venezuela. I don't even know how
y'all understand us, but we appreciate y'all. I don't even know,
but I don't know, but in like Canada and all
these other places, man, it's the coolest thing. And Daniel,

(01:45:46):
I appreciate you coming on and definitely hope to meet
you at Martinsville. As usual, we try to jam pack
this week full of stuff because James is busy at
a speedway, which we'll recap on Monday and do all
that stuff and we'll figure out the weekend this weekend.
But James is down at a speedway with Jason Myers

(01:46:09):
and the whole smart tour and all that stuff. We
appreciate Daniel, like I said, coming on and doing all
that stuff. It's so cool to hear his story. He
just started from his own shop, building his own shit
and learning from his dad. That was just like, just
watch what the hell I do? Just like how my
old old man taught me how to race and do
all that stuff. He's like, see how I'm doing it

(01:46:30):
just do it like that, and that's really hard when
you're fucking fourteen years old. I know that, but it's
the coolest thing to hear and all that stuff. So
he has a great story and he's meeting more people
throughout his years. So if you guys are down in
Florida or anywhere like that, you want a sportsman in
a super or a truck actually worked on, make sure
you guys get a hold of Daniel and he'll set

(01:46:52):
you up right. He does pretty good for himself just
being a one man crew. So, like I said, thank
you Daniel for coming on. We're gonna end this with
the obviously our great sponsors of the Rough Venders Podcast.
We still have yet to do a voice thing for
Gender Motorsports and Tim Moore's Motorsports. I mean, I didn't
even give us time to even do it because we're

(01:47:13):
with the three guys from Bowman last night, and then
tonight we're with Daniel as well. So big shout out
to Gender Motorsports and Tim Moore's Motorsports for sponsoring us
to make sure we're good to go, you know what
I mean. But other than that, we're gonna leave you
guys with the sponsors as usual. Make sure you guys

(01:47:34):
go buy a T shirt. We got a bunch of
shit going on on the Rough Infenders podcast, whole site
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We're at forty two fifty. We're trying to get to
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So we'll try to figure that out as we go.
I don't know how that's gonna work with the LIS agreement,

(01:47:55):
but we'll make it work. But like I said, Daniel,
thank you for coming on. Keep doing what you do,
and uh, we'll be checking you out on pit Row
TV tomorrow night. Make sure you guys go and then
tune in onto that. I don't know if it costs
money or what it is. I haven't even looked into
it yet, but if y'all can afford to make sure
you guys go watch Daniel. He's a hell of a

(01:48:15):
wheel man. So, like I said, Daniel, thank you for
coming on. And uh, that's episode fuck nineteen. I'm fucking
already losing track. We're only nineteen episodes into the season.
Daniel Webster, guys find him on Snapchat. I guess if
y'all listen to that or on Facebook at Daniel Webster

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