0:00 - Sean Payton said there are 20 NFL teams who will never win a title because of bad ownership. Who do we think the 20 teams are?
15:33 - ESPN ranked the biggest point spread gaps between starting QB and backup QB for every NFL team. Essentially...which teams have the largest talent gap between their starter and the backups. Who has the biggest gap in the league?
35:49 - A man has been arrested for throwing a marital aid on the court of a WNBA game. His name...is Delbert. Just don't do it. Don't name your kid Delbert or Dilbert. You're dooming him from day 1.
15:33 - ESPN ranked the biggest point spread gaps between starting QB and backup QB for every NFL team. Essentially...which teams have the largest talent gap between their starter and the backups. Who has the biggest gap in the league?
35:49 - A man has been arrested for throwing a marital aid on the court of a WNBA game. His name...is Delbert. Just don't do it. Don't name your kid Delbert or Dilbert. You're dooming him from day 1.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Recently, Charrovis in thet There's been six times in my
career I thought I had a team I could go
to the super Bowl, and this is the seventh where
and I know it's but what are some of the
maybe attributes at.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hallmark you got?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Obviously it has to start with quarterback, it has to
start with defense, it has to start with offensive line.
Like there's there's certain things that if they're not on point,
it's it's hard to make a statement like that. And
but when you when you look at some of these
critical factors and look, I told them that, and I was, now,
(00:53):
that doesn't mean that just means you have a chance.
And and then I would say most importantly ownership, because
there's twenty that each year have hope and dreams and
they're dysfunctional at the top.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
What's up my life? City? And welcome to another day
out here at Dove Valley in Broncos training camp. I
am Mark Burton, only filling in for Brett Kine, who
is off playing golf. On this Tuesday in August. We're
gonna have four hours. Vic E Moose will join me
(01:35):
here in an hour to talk about all things Broncos.
As matter of fact, Sean Payton had some really interesting
things to say yesterday. Was asked some fairly interesting questions
that comment, right there, matter of fact, you know what
I'll do, I'll do it right now. I'll do it
right now. I don't care. I'll tell you the twenty
teams that Sean Payton was talking about, I'll do it
off the top. I'll do it right now. I'll do
it right now. There's certainly ten teams that are super
(01:57):
easy to pick out, where with Sean Payton's like, there's
twenty teams in this league who think they're gonna make
a run to the playoffs in a Super Bowl. But
what's going on with the ownership in the front office
is what's doing. Let me take I'll give you twenty
right now, right now, Carolina right can't trust Dave Tepper,
uh Woody Johnson. The New York Jets, you can't trust
(02:20):
that team. So that's two right there. The Raiders, the
Raiders h Mark Davis and the Raiders. The Cardinals. I'm
putting them on the list. The Giants, I'm putting them
on the list. Uh, that's five. The Jags absolutely, the Jags,
right despite Man, I love you Travis and I hope
(02:41):
you have a great by the fay Man. Look, did
you hear LeVar talking about how he what happens if
Travis wins both the defensive Rookie of the Year and
the Offensive Rookie of the Year, which would be crazy
and that's a lot of playing time. But so we
got to put the Jags on that list. The Titans
are definitely on that list. Brother. The Dallas Cowboys are
(03:02):
on that list, right, The Dallas Cowboys are on that list.
Despite the fact how much everybody wants to talk about
the Cowboys and how national media's always talking about the Cowboys,
they belong on that list. That Sean fakers twenty teams
whose owners get in the way of winning. Well, Mike
Brown in the Bengals, man, despite what like, they spent
(03:23):
some money, not on trade, but they spent some money
on some offensive players. But Mike Brown is crazy. I
can't trust that guy. He's on the list. The Dolphins.
The Dolphins allegedly remember isn't there still a lawsuit saying
that the owner of the Dolphins tried to get his
team to lose so you get the number one pick
in the draft. But didn't, right, didn't somebody sue him
on one of his former coaches sue him over that nonsense.
(03:46):
I don't even know whatever happened to that thing.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But you can't Brian Flores, remember Flores?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
There you go?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yes, I remember everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Everybody was getting some I think wasn't he the same
guy that said John Elways showed to his interview late
and disheveled and drunk.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I think it was coming off a bender. Yeah, but
you're right.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
He said that the Dolphins intentionally told him to lose
games so they could get a better pick, and that
was part of my torpedo.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But I don't even I don't know what happened, if
they swept it under the rug, or if somebody got
paid and nobody's talking about it, or if there if
it's still going through the court system, because lord knows,
it could take years and years to get to I
have no idea, but listen that I had to say,
But the Dolphins belong on that list. The Chicago Bears
belong on that list. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers belong on
(04:35):
that list. All right, now, now I got a couple
of questionable ones. Let's see where are we? Uh One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen.
So I got thirteen teams that are definitely on the
list that Champagne was talking about, where you have twenty
teams whose owners basically bury any chances you have of winning.
(05:00):
Do we put the We're gonna put the Chargers on
that list, don't we? Like? Spanos is legendarily cheap, although
I mean, like right, he's a cheap, cheap dude, So
he the Chargers are on that list. We're putting the
Charges on that list. That's fourteen. Man, you know what,
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this. The New
(05:22):
England Patriots belong on that list. Robert, listen, man, Sorry, Robert,
you're nothing without Tom and Bill nothing. You belong on
the list of twenty owners who help sabotage their team?
Right and or am I wrong? I don't know that.
Now we're getting so I've gotten fifteen for sure. Text line,
if you want to help me out. The Chamans The
(05:44):
text line is three oh three, five, four, nine to five.
I need the twenty teams whose owners stop them from
winning it all? Who that the owner organization is so
poorly run that they can't win it all just because
of what's going on up top leadership, you know, trickles
(06:05):
down and and Peate was talking about it yesterday. I
don't know who, Nelson, do you have anybody else you're
thinking of? Because those are really just the rest of
these teams, Like they might have a bad season or
they might currently be going through a bad season, but
there's nobody on it that I'm like, yeah that they
they're they're done because of their ownership group. They're they're
out of it.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Did you already say did you already say the Browns?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Okay, because that's that's the one that comes to.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Wait, wait, no, I didn't. Did I not say the
Browns and HASLM? I don't think I did. So there
you go. That's sixteen. I cannot believe I missed Haslam
and the Browns the Saints, right, Jesse's right, Whatever is
going on with the Saints, man, whatever's going like yeah, yeah, yea, yeah,
you gotta put that. So that's seventeen. So the Colts,
you're right, and I mean we just the passing of
(06:49):
Jim irsay, so they've got some things going on that
they're gonna have to But yeah, the Colts belong on
that list, although once again because of the transition, maybe
the maybe uh is it he says, daughter, I think
it's his two daughters are take okay, and maybe they're
better at this than he was, and then they and
they get off the list. But I think that's eighteen.
(07:10):
We just named eighteen teams off the top of our head,
and we didn't did it easily. So Sean Payton's probably right, man,
He's probably right. We still got two more to go.
But I don't know who those two like, you know
what I mean, Like we've we've named them all. We've
named them all man. Basically, we named the entire AFC East.
The Bills are the only one, although yeah, the Bills
(07:31):
are the only one who made it out. Everybody else
in the AFC is. He's like, yo, Miami, you're on
the list. In New England, you're on the list. The Jets,
you're on the list. Right there is we can't put
you can't put Pittsburgh or Baltimore on there, right because
Pittsburgh is I mean, no, no, Pittsburgh might not have
a mountain of Super Bowls in the last twenty years,
(07:53):
but that I think people will consider the way they
handle their business like they run it the right way. Baltimore,
You're not gonna put on that list. We already put
the Tights, man, basically the entire AFC South. Could you
put the Texans on there, despite the fact that C J.
Stroud Would that get us to nineteen? Would we? I
don't know, man, I'm looking for one more team, one
(08:15):
more team to make it twenty Green not not Green Bay,
Green Bay. Now they don't belong on the list. Minnesota
doesn't belong in the list. Detroit doesn't belong on the
least list right now? Should we put the Lines on
the list because what they did the previous forty years
or whatever? I don't Yeah, I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And also, some Steelers fans might tell you that they're
getting pretty fed up with ownership after nine years of
going eight to eight, not winning a playoff game, and
having absolutely no strategy whatsoever at quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger
hung them up. So Steelers, I don't know they might
be one of those fringe ones.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, I think like the fringe ones that I think
we got it. Pittsburgh is one of them and New
England is the other one, because I really want to
put them on there, you know what I mean, Like
I really want to put him on there. Man, I
don't trust Robert Kraft. He got hell of lucky, man.
But then again, I mean, maybe there's a Patriot fan
out there who thinks some nuts. But other than that,
(09:11):
I think we hit twenty. Man, we got at least nineteen.
I don't know, Like, if you want to throw in Atlanta,
there's somebody else on there. I'll listen to it. But
we just named nineteen NFL teams who can't win anything
because the ownership group. And obviously that was one of
the more interesting things that Sean Payton said yesterday. Matter Bay.
I mean, the first three things he reeled off when
(09:34):
he was asked that question when he was talking about
Super Bowls quarterback defense, offensive line, right, quarterback defense, offensive line.
The first three words that came out of his mouth
when he talked about what makes you think this team
could win a Super Bowl? QB, you got bo Nicks
doing what he does. And you know what, I got
(09:54):
another I got a question for the I got another
question for the text line. We'll do that on the
other side when it when it comes to bow Nicks,
I got a question for y'all. UH defense obviously is
sexy as hell out here dun Valley. We we we
love it. We love it, we love it. And the
offensive line is amazing as well. That's why I would
(10:15):
certainly love to see uh a commitment to the run,
because you know, offensive linemen love to to run block
more than they do too to pass block. But there
was the three keys according to Champayne. And guess what
seems like things have worked out? Yo, Nelson. Which version
of the song Everything is Gonna Be all Right? Do
(10:37):
you like most? The Bob Marley version or the Naughty
by Nature version?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Oh? You know, I like Bob. Excuse I don't know
where that came from. I almost just said Bob Dylan.
I don't think he ever did three Little Birds.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
But I bet he killed, he'd killed, he'd kill a
cover of of of of Everything is Gonna Be all Right?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
And I don't mean to quibble tech that song is
called three Little Birds.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Now, it's not called everything's gonna be all right.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
No, because he talks about the three little birds on
his doorstep.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, no, man, I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yep, now you know, but I'm a bit of a
Marley Puris man. Everything's gonna be all right. JJ McCarthy's
pregame playlist. Remember before the draft, he told us he
listens to Johnman when he's getting warmed up for the game.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, he's gonna Coach already said he's gonna play this
this weekend. He's gonna get his first reps there this weekend. Well,
I mean, he had reps last season, but he's gonna
he's gonna play in that preseason game. So but that
should be the theme of this training camp. That's what
it felt like Yesterday's felt like this this entire time,
like everything's gonna be all right. Everything's gonna be all right,
(11:45):
because you know what I mean, Like it just feels
it just feels like everybody's on the same page. They're
locking up all the players they need to lock up.
You like the quarterback, you like that, you love the defense.
Like everything's gonna be all right. That should be the
theme of this camp because the Broncos in general are
(12:05):
all right now. Things will get more interesting come this
Saturday when we actually get a preseason game uh to watch.
And yesterday Sean Payton did say that they would let
the starters are gonna go in this game. Matter of fact,
Sean Payton's brain you could tell when he was talking
about it. Sean Payton's brain is already working on how
he's gonna handle just two preseason games, because he mentioned
(12:28):
it yesterday, how it's currently three, because he got he
got two questions about, you know, how do you handle
just three preseason games and a lot of young players?
How do you evaluate that talent when you have one
fewer preseason game? And he immediately mentioned that it's probably
gonna go to two, and I'm I think that man,
that means he's already got a plan for when he
goes to two. He also mentioned that you have to
(12:51):
use these practices more, this camp, more in the evaluation
process than just game tape and what you see in
these preseason games. But it's gonna be tougher. It's gonna
be tougher, man, without these preseason games. I mean, there's
gonna be some there's gonna be some players who should
be playing in this league who will not be because
they just don't have enough time. There's just enough time
(13:12):
or reps on the field to show that you belong
in this league. So, I mean it's kind of I
would be interested to know what Sean Payton thinks is
gonna happen when we go to two press, when we
go to eighteen regular season games in two preseason games?
How does he handle that? How how do you go
about talent evaluation? How do you go about building your
roster when you only have two preseason games to do it?
(13:35):
And more and more teams are embracing the Sean McVay
of doing things like, na, I'm not gonna play a
player in a game that means nothing in which he
could get hurt. I'm not doing it. You're not for
I'm not doing it. And I mean, luckily, we're gonna
get to see the Broncos starters at least a little
bit this this Saturday against against the Niners, and the
Niners are all kinds of banged up. Yesterday we were
(13:57):
talking about the kicking battle that's going on in San Francisco.
That kicking battle's done. It's done. They they released they
kept Moody and released Joseph I think he was, And
it's because they need the roster spot. They're all kinds
of banged up. Man. They had what did Shanahan say?
They had nine ten guys who couldn't go due to injury.
(14:17):
So they're yeah, they're they're hello struggling. No that last
year San Francisco had to cancel a joint practice with
New Orleans because they were so injured. They just didn't
have enough bodies to practice, and uh Shanan mentioned like, yo,
we need the bodies because we're gonna have a joint
practice with the Broncos in a couple of days. And
because of all those nothing to do with the actual
(14:38):
kicking battle, a dude loses his job and that welcome
to the world of the NFL. Man, not for long,
It's just the way things go.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And by the way, I cannot believe that Jake Moody
survived in the kicking competition. You remember he was the
one last season that I want to say, Deebo Samuel
choked on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, what was that him? Was that him? Was
it that the dude?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well, I know Jake Moody kept missing kicks, and I
think it was Diva that went over there and was.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Like stop missing, and they kept moody and it and
they got ready to Joseph. And I think they're kicking
stats were similar. I think their stick kicking stats were similar.
But I'm almost sure they kept moody and got ready
to cut Joseph yesterday, Uh, right after we were talking about, Hey,
look an actual camp battle here and sit. No, Uh,
it's done. It's done. But either way, training camp coverage
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first time in a long time, everything's gonna be all right.
It's taken. It's it's year three of Sean Payton, it's
(15:48):
year two of bow Knicks, and it's year year three
of the Walton Pinner Group. Is that right? Or is
it longer than that? It has been three and a
half four years. Is four years the Walton Pinner Group.
And guess what we're now at the place where everything's
gonna be all right, everything's gonna be all right. This
team is looking good. We're talking about super Bowls around here,
(16:10):
and you know, you might not consider the Broncos a
top contender. Matter of fact, even all the top contenders
in the NFL right now, Like we don't know. We
don't know until we see some actual football games if
because I mean, there are there are wild swings in
an NFL. So there's always a team in the NFL
that you're like, man, they're gonna be good, They're gonna
be good, and then they're not, and you're like, what
(16:32):
happened there? What happened with that one? So and I
mean listen, and injuries in the NFL take it's such
a major, major, major part of what goes on in
this sport. I mean it happens in every sport, but
especially in the NFL, where every single play, somebody's getting
(16:55):
in a car wreck, somebody's getting hit that hard. So
I do speaking of people getting injured. Yahoo Sports did
something interesting. They they they put together a list of
all the teams in the NFL and they ranked them
by the difference the talent difference between their starting quarterback
(17:19):
and their backup quarterback. So they were like, what are
the teams that if their starting quarterback goes down that
their backup has No, we're near the talent. No, we're
near the talent and can't get it done. Now, the
top three or four obvious are the obvious quarterbacks. They're
the best quarterbacks in the league, so their backup is
not what it should be. But who would you guess
(17:40):
is number one on the list of the difference between
the starting quarterback and the backup quarterback? Nelson, just take
a take a shot. Who do you think it is
one the one.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Team biggest gap between the star starter and the backup.
Let's see, I'm gonna guess it's gotta be like Baltimore
or or or Buffalo or one of these.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, it's Buffalo. It's Buffalo who starts hard knucks tonight.
You can see whatever the hell they're doing. Yeah, they
have Josh Allen. Do you know who the backup to
Josh Allen in Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Is the Hailey Steinfeld.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Boy, it's better than what they got right now. I
watched I pay money to watch Haley throw the ball
with Ronalday That right, No, it's a Mitch Trubisky. Josh
Allen's backup is Mitch Trubisky, so that they have that's
the biggest gap in talent. And so Buffalo's like, if
Josh Allen goes down and we have to go to
Mitch Trubisky, guess what we're in trouble. We're in all
(18:35):
kinds of trouble. Number two is uh, Kansas City. But
I mean you were right with Lamar. That's number three
on the list. Lamar's backup is Cooper Rush. So if Lamar,
an MVP candidate, goes down and you gotta handle go
with Cooper Rush, you got some issues. But Mahomes backup
is Gardner Minshew. Uh, Jalen Hurts. So everybody's taking shots,
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or not everybody, but a lot of people taking shots.
And Jalen Hurts is not one of the best quarterbacks
in league. But according to Yahoo, there's the one of
the bigger gaps in the league between a starter quarterback
and a backup quarterback is in Philly, where Jalen Hurts
is the starter and Tanner McKee is the backup. Joe
Burrow Jake Browning the Bengals is next Justin Herbert and
(19:17):
Taylor Heineke. The Chargers are sixth. The Broncos are all
the way down at nineteen. They have both that Bo
Nicks and Jared Stidham, not separated by quite as much
as say a Trevor Lawrence and a Nick Mullins or
a Baker Mayfield and a Kyle Trash.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
There's some.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Bad there's some dudes making a lot of money being
bad backup quarterbacks in this league. Man, oh brother, you
know what last on the list? Nelson? What team is
last on the list where we don't even know who
their starting quarterback is? Basically is what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
It's don't know who their quarterback?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Is it gonna be Shuck? Is it gonna be Rattler?
The final two teams of the Indian Colts and the Saints.
The Colts have Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, And who
knows what you were the one who's pointing out yesterday
that they were. When they released the depth chart for
the Colts, it was either or right it had uh
Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones as as QB one.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, I even know, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
We'll get there and number the third worst situation is
Michael Pennocks and Kirk Cousins in Atlanta, but when so
they're trying to decide the talent gap between the starter
and the backup. But that's a weird one, right with
Michael Pennix, who has a really high ceiling, but he's
probably not where Kirk Cousins is right now. It's by
the way Kirk played last season, Like that's a weird gap.
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Like I think a lot of people would say right
now that Kirk's probably the better quarterback as we speak,
and that Pinnis could be the better quarterback here in
a couple of years once he he he matures cause
I I bring up I bring up that just because
I find it. I find it fascinating. But I have
a I have a question for the text line because
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they have they have Bonix there at nineteen and I
got a question for the text line. How how good
are you at talent evaluation? Broncos Country? I mean, just
in general, how good are you? Because I bring it
up like this, you know, when I was younger, when
I first started getting into sports, I really romanticize the
(21:27):
life of a scout, like like a scout for an organization.
I thought it was. I thought it was amazing that
you you're the guy, You're the person who got to
see the greats before they were great, to find the
greats before they were great, you know. And then and
then I started working for the ABS and the Nugs,
and I found out what scouts actually do, and I'm like, oh,
hell no, that's the terrible That job is terrible. You
(21:49):
work hours and hours and hours and hours and hours
and usually come up with nothing. It is a terrible, terrible,
terrible job. But I think a lot of us we've
been you know, if you're listen into this show right now,
if if you're working in sports radar like Jesse or Steve,
like you've been, you've been locked into sports now for
a while. And I think I think the human eye,
(22:10):
we we the the eye test is real. I think
people who've watched the sport for a long time can
tell when somebody is good at the game or bad
at the game. Now, the nuance of it is is
is different, but I think I think most fans can
can with their use the eye tests and see something.
So let me ask you this, because last year, guess
(22:32):
what I thought bow knicks looked pretty good. Last year
and you know what, you know who else I thought
looked pretty good, like Boone Knicks. I thought bow Knicks
looked pretty good last year, and then this year people
are still doubting him. I thought Shdor Sanders I had
a lot of fun watching that man play quarterback at SeeU,
and we obviously know what happened to him in the
(22:54):
draft and what's going Cleveland signed another q P. Cleveland
brought in Huntley Brother. They brought in Huntley because everybody's hurt.
Now Chador, they held him out for a while because
of a sure shore thor shoulder. He says in English. Uh,
but he was back yesterday afternoon, was Chador. But Gabriel's hurt.
(23:15):
Flacco's fine, but obviously they're not gonna play him, so
they brought in another. They now have they have six
qbs and officially they have seven with Deshaun right right
or am I at no no? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, this
is like that's way too many quarterbacks. It's way too
many quarterbacks in Cleveland. But anyway, I got off on
a I got off on a tangent. But to me,
(23:36):
Shador Sanders looks like somebody who can play in the
NFL and to me, Bo Nicks looks better than the
way some people talk about him. So on the shot
model of text online three h three five before oh
nine two five, you tell me, am I seeing something
that's not there? Am I crazy? Are you great? Like?
(23:58):
I mean, what is it? What is especially with Shador? Like,
I guess I can get a little bit of the
bow thing because you're just going into your second year.
You just had a rookie year there in the NFL,
and it doesn't matter how many quarterbacks or how many
touchdowns you threw or games you won, you have to
do it again in the NFL. It's consistency at the
(24:19):
quarterback position, which equals greatness. It's not throwing one seventy
yard bomb and winning a game and getting excited. No, no, no,
it's consistency. So I get that a little bit. And man,
maybe there was something else going on with Shador and
all that kind of stuff, but he seems to be
saying and doing everything right there in Cleveland. And I'll
tell you one thing that I don't know. Look, we
(24:42):
put the Browns on that list of twenty teams that
can't win anything because of their leadership that Sean Payton
was talking about yesterday, we put Cleveland on that list, man,
and that's where they belong, right, But the best player
has to win the job, right. We talked about there's
weird political stuff in sports whatever or like one player
(25:04):
doing something, and I guess like political is not the
right term is. I think the reindeer games that some
fans think might go on don't go on as much
as you think, because, especially in the NFL, the best
player gets the start. Right. If Shador Sanders is the
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best option in Cleveland, he's getting the start right that
that coaching staff is fighting for the lives. They're gonna
get got right, They're gonna get got so they have
to win. You can't be like some of the things
that that some of the Cleveland fans think might be
going no, no, right. If shadu Or is good enough
to play, he's gonna play. Right. There's not some weird
(25:48):
like am I right? Am I wrong? But anyway you
tell me texta line, you tell me.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Nothing, you're right, especially if I feel like if you
have if everything's the same and you can either play
Joe Flacco or one of your young guys, wouldn't you
want to try one of your young guys.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
He's got a longer career.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Now. If you're the head coach of the Cleveland Browns
and you need to win now or you're gonna be gone,
you're gonna get got, You're gonna get fired. Matter of fact,
they might fire all of them. And that means that
if you think Joe Flaggo can win this one game
right now, you gotta play him. You gotta There might
be other situations in the NFL where you're comfortable enough
as the head coach and you can go to the
owner and say, hey, we're gonna start Michael Pennocks and
(26:27):
we might lose more games than if we started Kirk Cousins.
But I think Pennick is gonna be a better quarterback.
I think we need to get him into winning mode
as soon as possible so we can start him. Maybe
you can do that in Atlanta, but you can't do
that in Cleveland, man. You can't just unless you go
you go to the owner and say, hey, mister h listen,
here's what's up. I'm gonna play a quarterback who's not
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gonna win as many games as maybe one of the
other guys would, but and stick with me here. We're
gonna be much better in the future if we do
this instead of being good, right. I don't, Man, that's
a hard ad. I don't think you can do it.
I think I don't think you can do it. I
don't think the Reindeer games like you. You can't play
him in Cleveland. Man, you can't. You can't. You got it,
(27:10):
you Scott. You gotta start the best guy. You gotta
start the best guy. You gotta start the guy that wins.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
And by the way, I feel bad for for Dylan
Gabriel because he's kind of like the middle child. Everybody's
talking about Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett and now Tyler
Huntley and Shador Sanders and Dylan Gabriel's around there going, yeah, guys,
I got drafted like three rounds before Shador. What's the
take for me to get some some buzz here?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Dude? Yeah, Well, I mean and he like he started
a little slow and then he picked it up, but
then he got hurt. He was one of the quarterbacks
that got hurt, right, he strained something or some nonsense, Yeah,
hamstring strain or something weird like that. So he's not
going right now. So the best ability is availability man,
you gotta be out there to do it. You gotta
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be out there to show it. But yeah, that that
whole that that whole situation is crazy. It's crazy. But
I just want to know, like it's not just me, right,
It's not just me. There's something there. There's something else
going on with the evaluation of Shadura Sanders. There's just
I mean, there's all kinds of things in the atmosphere
like should or even mention I think it was just
(28:17):
yesterday where you talking about like I don't know where
the hate is coming from or what or the why
is like. But eventually, if I just keep my head
down and keep playing, well you know, that's that's gonna
go away if I just keep being me. But that
is a weird, weird, crazy, weird, wild situation. So I
don't know, is and so am I wrong when it
comes to this town of evaluation at the quarterback position
(28:39):
or is everybody else? I'm not sure. I have no idea.
But either way, the uh, the things that, uh things
that were going on yesterday here at camp. Outside of
some of the interesting things that Sean Payton said a
lot of two minute work yesterday, Champayton was Listen. If
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you gonna have a bunch of media chuckleheads out here
watching practice, you know what they're gonna talk about. They're
gonna talk about it when dudes still picks. And so
both threw a couple of yesterday and it was brought
up to Sean and he was like, listen, man, we're
counting picks like the hurricanes. You can't get too deep
into the weeds when it comes to stuff like that
(29:23):
because we're trying different things. But listen that this, this
is where we're at, right Nelson, you have that cut
from Champayton.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, look, we're charting picks here like like hurricanes. So
he's doing fine.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Whoa, somebody gave him a real big media laugh on
that one, Like I think it's a good line, but
that's a that's a huge laugh for a counting picks
like the hurricane. But Litsten, that's what's gonna happen, man,
guess what the fans are talking about. What the fans
are gonna talk about when the dude throws a big yeah, Na, listen,
it's just what's gonna happen. But yeah, he was like
basically was like, stop stop counting picks in in in
(30:04):
camp man like it's it's not that big of a
deal already talking about how Sean Bray. I think Sean
Payton's brain is thinking about how to evaluate talent when
it's just two When when we go down to two games,
we are we get is it gonna happen next year?
Are we to get eighteen regular season games next year?
When is that decision even gonna be made next at
(30:25):
the start of next offseason? Or do you do you
need another lead up? Did they did they give us
a year lead up to the seventeen game schedule? They
just like seventeen games, let's go. I can't recall. I
cannot remember. Jason Garrett was out here at practice. Sean
Payton says he's known him for twenty five years basically,
(30:47):
and Garrett is he's still doing Sunday Night Football, right
He's an analyst for NBC Sunday Night Football. At least
I think that's where last week left him. Although Sean
Payton says he's doing a podcast now, Jason Garrett, Although
who ain't got a podcast? Jesse, do you have a podcast?
Come on, man, come on, I bet you Nelson does
Nelson you got a podcast?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Not yet, you're going to have a podcast? Is that
what you're trying to say? If if Jesse wants to
start one man home run, how do you.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, well you can just call it spins spends the podcast,
spends the podcast like, let's do it. But by the way,
Carrett was out here.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
You want to hear what Sean Payton had to say
about Jarrett Stidham yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, he's been good.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
He's playing well too, and and uh, it's a good room.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Cool, Okay, this is what I'm talking about. Everything's gonna
be all right. Everything's going fine. He's got good things
to say about the starting quarterback, he's got good things
to say about the backup quarterback. Everything's gonna be all right.
It's just one of those seasons, man, until it's not.
We talked about the Super Bowl win. He traits QB
defense offens in line. But and then the the ownership
(31:57):
in the in the in the twenty teams who who
can never win it because of their ownership? And we
try to decide who those teams were. Peyton in an
article with what who was he talking to? He said
he's coached six teams that he believed could win it.
All and this team this season is the seventh, which
(32:18):
is high praise. I mean, Sean Payton's been around a
lot of teams and a lot of good teams because
he won a lot of games there in New Orleans,
even if they didn't win. But that won Super Bowl
in nine or twenty eleven. When was the Saint Super
Bowl twenty eleven? It was nine? Okay, yeah, So that's uh, QB, defense,
(32:38):
offensive line. All three things that the quarterbacks or that
the Denver Broncos feel like they've got locked down pretty well,
is those three spots, QB, defense and offensive line. So
I don't know, man, it's both but also like fulfilling
(33:04):
to nothing. Listen, listen, Nelson, listen, listen, brother, listen. Do
you do you are you unhappy about the fact that
we're not on the radio every day screaming about the
quarterback position, because that's what we've been doing here for
Can you imagine what what were we saying? Well, last
year we were talking a lot about bo but two
(33:25):
years ago, man, it was nothing but quarterback talk around it,
nothing but QB talk, I mean, and for good reason.
For good reason, is the most important position on the
football field. And if you don't have one.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You got nothing burto So I mean, this is the
best way possible this training camp. I'm thinking back in
all the time it's been brief, but in my brief
media career covering Denver Sports, this has been the most
boring training camp I've ever seen, and I am so
happy about that. We're not talking about positional battles. We're
(33:59):
not talking about, Oh, is this high draft pick going
to turn the team around.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
All we're saying is I think things are good. Could
we just start the season already? I mean, Brett for
weeks you I think you asked the same thing. Everybody's
been trying to find a storyline. What's the storyline from
this camp? Vic said, The only storyline is nobody get hurt.
Back to you guys at the desk, I am so
happy and thankful and grateful that this camp is as
(34:24):
boring as it is.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
That is a privilege.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy to be like, man, that's
kind of boring and be happy about it, because you're right.
There really are no position battles, there are no beef.
Nobody's angry at the front office because they ain't got paid.
Like even Nick Benito is like, but that's because I
think they're gonna pay him. So if you're nicky, you're
probably like, no, no, that. Sean Payton did bring up
(34:47):
nick yesterday, nothing about his contract, but he was talking
about instincts and that Benito has really good instincts, and
he was saying that, you know, there are some some
players who just don't have don't have those instincts. You
just have to coach it up a little bit. And
then just some guys who naturally have those kind of
instincts where Benito can sense the ball. I guess Peyton
was saying, and feel it or whatever. What are those
(35:08):
instincts up? So, I mean they they once again they
talked about him, but I mean, I feel like even
if he has this up decent season, they're gonna pay
that man. Matter of fact, I wonder if they're still talking.
I wonder if they're still talking, I wonder what the like.
I wonder if Benito, like obviously Benita, wants to get
paid down because this you never know what's gonna happen.
You could get your career could end here in a
(35:29):
week's time. But I wonder, I wonder what those conversations
were like, yeah, pay him the muni. But either way, Uh,
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Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, look, we're charting picks here like hurricanes. So he's
doing fine.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
He's doing fine, man, hurricanes. We're through with hurricane season though, right,
Hurricane bow Her, Hurricane bow coming at you here in
six days time when they take on Sam fran As
a coach said yesterday, they we will see the starters
in that one. Welcome back to uh, Brett Kane's little
little sixty minute show that they like to call Brett
(36:20):
Kane in the morning. Right is that? What is Brett
Kane in the morning. BKA decided to take the week off,
so I'm ketting up early. Also, something's on fire, Jesse,
what's on fire? Right? What is that? Man? That's not good?
But where was I? Oh? Yeah, Brett's gone and I'm
(36:40):
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one price, one person, one hour, three oh three five
or four nine two five. Now, I am a person
(37:05):
who has said for for a very long time that
you should name your children whatever you want to name them.
You know what I mean. And I'm four like me
and Jesse are huge Optimist Prime fans. I'm more than
happy if you want to name your kid Optimist Prime,
name your kid optimst Prime, do it, do it, just
do it. That's fine with me. But I will say
there are some names that if you name your kid,
(37:26):
you are almost predicting their future. You're like, I wanna
name my kid this name. He is definitely gonna serve
time in prison later in his life. And I spring
it up simply because of this. A man was arrested
for throwing sex toys onto the court of a WNBA game.
The Atlanta Dream were playing this weekend and a dude
(37:48):
uh decided to throw some sex toys on the court.
He got arrested. None of that, and they threw the
book at that dude. He got like four charges. He
got four or five charges. Twenty three year old kid
throwing sex toys on the court the w NBA game. Now,
if there is one name that you could name your kid,
that would mean in the future he would throw a
sex toy on an NBA w NBA court. This is
(38:11):
the name. This is the name. The guy's name is Gilbert.
The you name your kid Gilbert, this is what you get.
This is what you kids. You get sex toys on
the court, and arrest is what you get. Man, this
guy's gonna serve time for it. He's gonna serve time
and it. Don't name your kid Dilbert, man, because this
(38:32):
is what happens. He gets arrested watching the Atlanta I
don't even know who the dream we're playing, but he
gets arrested watching him like that. Dude had to smuggle
that thing in. You can't just walk in with it
on your shoulder, right, Yeah, he had to hide that.
Like those crazy dudes in Detroit who hide the octopus
down their pants. They put the they tie the they
tie the octopus, and then they put it in their
(38:54):
pants and they tied it around their waist like a belt,
and then they get and then they throw. They like that.
They're like, listen, man, I love my team too, but
I ain't putting an octopus in my pants for him.
That's crazy talk. And I'm not hiding a sex toy
so I can in the middle of the game just
toss it on him. Like what kind of craziness is that? Man? Anyway,
don't name your kid Dilbert is then like I did.
(39:15):
This is the first time I've heard named Dilbert. And
like Jesse, you know anybody named Dilbert Nelson, you know
anybody named Dilbert. This is the dude's first name. His
first name is Dilbert.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I've never met a Dilbert.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I remember the comic strip like in the newspaper, Delbert
doesn't the one that worked in the office.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Maybe that's why they named their kid Gilbert. They just
love that cartoon so much. I don't know. Man, Just
don't do it this otherwise you're hiding sex toys and
getting arrested. Just don't do it. Also, stop bothering w
NBA players in the middle of the game. That's just weird, man,
that's just weird. Uh, somebody else did it too, but
(39:55):
that guy didn't get caught. Somebody somebody did it, like
this guy got snitch on it. As soon as he
threw it. The guy sitting next to him was like,
what do you do it? And he called the usher over.
The guy got arrested, but somebody else did it later
in the game, and nobody snitched. Nobody knows who it was.
He got away with it. Man, I kid, they hit
that guy. I should look it up. But they hit
him with a uh. They hit him with four charges
(40:19):
a couple of none of them were felonies, but they
were all like resisting arrest, like indecent exposure. Even though
he you know what I mean it was, they hit
him with all kinds of stuff. Man. But either way,
so just I'm just saying, don't name your kid it.
There's right, that's gotta be one of the top ten names.
(40:39):
Not to name your kid, because something weird is gonna
happen unless it's a family name. But right right, like
text line knows what's up, text line is coming up.
There's some yeah, you knew somebody named Folonia, like as
in felony, like a felon. Put the version of felony anyway,
(41:04):
once again, I am all for naming your kid weird name, like,
go for it, get craze, go crazy Nelson. When when
you have a kid, will you're gonna name your kid?
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Well, now I'm gonna have to do Dilbert just to
spite you.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
No, Nolbert. Now that kid's already can have all your
nerdiness shoved into their Jean pool. Man, you gotta come
up with a dope name to offset some of that
brass band nonsense. Not that brass bands are nerdy the
way you do brass bands are a little nerdy, though, Bro,
you know what I'm saying, Man, it offsets it.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Now you got to remember what was that kid? Remember
that kid? Who he was the like the number four
picking the draft? Maverick? Like, don't name your kid Dilbert,
name your kid Maverick Nelson. Okay, right, but I mean
that kid's getting into a fight too. Both those kids
are getting in a fight. One of them was gonna
win that fight though, right? What was gonna win that fight?
And listen, you know what I can it would be
(42:00):
if you think your kid's gonna be six seven, three fifty,
go ahead and name him Dilbert and then you're not
gonna have an issue because Bilbert just go around popping
just like that dude on the golf course. Bang, that's
exactly what Delbert be doing. Go ahead and make fun
of my name. But yeah, if they're like, if there
is a name to counteract the Dilbert, whatever that is,
it's probably Maverick, right, Like, what's the I knew a
(42:22):
guy whose name was Ace, which was kind of weird,
you know what, He's like, what's up? Ace? It's like,
but I still feel it. I see, I see the
dream with a name like that Dilbert nine. He's doing it,
and I can't do it, and I won't.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Would I just call my shot and name my kid
like Miles Davis Nelson.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Ooh see bro, See that's tough too, man. You can't
be naming your kid Steven Spielberg or John Elway. You can't.
You can't be putting that kind of like like those
people whose last name is Jordan and they name their
kid Michael, Like you gon put that on your kid,
Like Michael's a great name. Michael's a great name everybody had,
you know, but you go, you would name your kid
(43:01):
after the greatest basketball player in the history. Now, man,
that's crazy talk. Just don't do it. Just don't do it.
I don't like that name. The other only name I
don't like is when you get to like chuckles mcbuckles
the fifth or whatever, like nah nah nah, that's the
lamest thing. Like listen, man.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Nah chuckles mckbuckles the fifth.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah, you can talk about you know what I mean?
When when they're like, well you go Junior, the third,
the fourth, like you just keep naming your kid your name,
just right down the line. You name your kid your name,
and then you make your kid name their kid your name,
and then you make your grand kid name there. You
know what I mean. That's weird to me.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
That's my favorite Downton Downton Abbey character, by the way,
is chuckles mcbuckles the fifth.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Chuckles mcbuckles the fifth. Man. Dude brings it every game.
Somebody in the text line says you should name your kid.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Throck Morton, throck Morton Nelson.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
I mean, listen, that's a good strong Like what's the
one name you could give your kid that would almost
guarantee them a professional sporting career?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Honestly, I coach Sandford knows what's up. Because he named
one of his sons Gunner. Tell me, Gunner, Sandford isn't
gonna be like a big ten quarterback.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, no, no, no, listen, listen. I've had this conversation
with Sanford. He's his kids are not that athletics because
right away, you know what I mean, he's he's a
ball coach. He knows what's up. He's looking for arm strength,
he's looking for he's looking for some certain certain abilities
that he's like, I don't think they God, I don't
think I don't think they got him.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
That.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
You're right, that is a good name for like, yeah,
this dude, But if there's one, like a great hockey
name or a great football name, like I was thinking,
who was I thinking about. We'll get into this with
vick E. Moje, but I was thinking about some of
the great quarterback to wide receiver combos in the history
(44:56):
of the NFL, like Joe Montana to Jerry Rice or
hell Steve Young to to Jerry Rice. And uh, I
guess we can't put Lway Sharp on there since Sharp
is a tightian. Can we put john Away to be?
Cause I think Shannon john Away through Shannon Sharp more
touchdowns than any other player in his career, like he
threw more touches to Shannon than any other player in
(45:18):
his career. I believe so. But anyway, I was, I was,
I was thinking about that. I was thinking about that,
those kind of duos and how it all is. How
long do you think that chemistry takes to to get
you don't want to me to like Bow and Courtland
or or Bow and Patrick or Bow and whoever? How
long does that take? How long does it take? Man?
(45:40):
Y'all need to stop bothering me. I'm here filling in man,
I'm not don't even need my job, bro. Sorry, we're
getting We're getting heckled from the cheap seats. Brother, We're
getting heckled from the cheap seats. Well take a break. Well,
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Recently, Charrovis in thet There's been six times in my
career I thought I had a team I could go
to the super Bowl, and this is the seventh where
and I know it's but what are some of the
maybe attributes at.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hallmark you got?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Obviously it has to start with quarterback, it has to
start with defense, it has to start with offensive line.
Like there's there's certain things that if they're not on point,
it's it's hard to make a statement like that. And
but when you when you look at some of these
critical factors and look, I told them that, and I was, now,
(00:53):
that doesn't mean that just means you have a chance.
And and then I would say most importantly ownership, because
there's twenty that each year have hope and dreams and
they're dysfunctional at the top.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
What's up my life? City? And welcome to another day
out here at Dove Valley in Broncos training camp. I
am Mark Burton, only filling in for Brett Kine, who
is off playing golf. On this Tuesday in August. We're
gonna have four hours. Vic E Moose will join me
(01:35):
here in an hour to talk about all things Broncos.
As matter of fact, Sean Payton had some really interesting
things to say yesterday. Was asked some fairly interesting questions
that comment, right there, matter of fact, you know what
I'll do, I'll do it right now. I'll do it
right now. I don't care. I'll tell you the twenty
teams that Sean Payton was talking about, I'll do it
off the top. I'll do it right now. I'll do
it right now. There's certainly ten teams that are super
(01:57):
easy to pick out, where with Sean Payton's like, there's
twenty teams in this league who think they're gonna make
a run to the playoffs in a Super Bowl. But
what's going on with the ownership in the front office
is what's doing. Let me take I'll give you twenty
right now, right now, Carolina right can't trust Dave Tepper,
uh Woody Johnson. The New York Jets, you can't trust
(02:20):
that team. So that's two right there. The Raiders, the
Raiders h Mark Davis and the Raiders. The Cardinals. I'm
putting them on the list. The Giants, I'm putting them
on the list. Uh, that's five. The Jags absolutely, the Jags,
right despite Man, I love you Travis and I hope
(02:41):
you have a great by the fay Man. Look, did
you hear LeVar talking about how he what happens if
Travis wins both the defensive Rookie of the Year and
the Offensive Rookie of the Year, which would be crazy
and that's a lot of playing time. But so we
got to put the Jags on that list. The Titans
are definitely on that list. Brother. The Dallas Cowboys are
(03:02):
on that list, right, The Dallas Cowboys are on that list.
Despite the fact how much everybody wants to talk about
the Cowboys and how national media's always talking about the Cowboys,
they belong on that list. That Sean fakers twenty teams
whose owners get in the way of winning. Well, Mike
Brown in the Bengals, man, despite what like, they spent
(03:23):
some money, not on trade, but they spent some money
on some offensive players. But Mike Brown is crazy. I
can't trust that guy. He's on the list. The Dolphins.
The Dolphins allegedly remember isn't there still a lawsuit saying
that the owner of the Dolphins tried to get his
team to lose so you get the number one pick
in the draft. But didn't, right, didn't somebody sue him
on one of his former coaches sue him over that nonsense.
(03:46):
I don't even know whatever happened to that thing.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But you can't Brian Flores, remember Flores?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
There you go?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yes, I remember everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Everybody was getting some I think wasn't he the same
guy that said John Elways showed to his interview late
and disheveled and drunk.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I think it was coming off a bender. Yeah, but
you're right.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
He said that the Dolphins intentionally told him to lose
games so they could get a better pick, and that
was part of my torpedo.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But I don't even I don't know what happened, if
they swept it under the rug, or if somebody got
paid and nobody's talking about it, or if there if
it's still going through the court system, because lord knows,
it could take years and years to get to I
have no idea, but listen that I had to say,
But the Dolphins belong on that list. The Chicago Bears
belong on that list. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers belong on
(04:35):
that list. All right, now, now I got a couple
of questionable ones. Let's see where are we? Uh One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen.
So I got thirteen teams that are definitely on the
list that Champagne was talking about, where you have twenty
teams whose owners basically bury any chances you have of winning.
(05:00):
Do we put the We're gonna put the Chargers on
that list, don't we? Like? Spanos is legendarily cheap, although
I mean, like right, he's a cheap, cheap dude, So
he the Chargers are on that list. We're putting the
Charges on that list. That's fourteen. Man, you know what,
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this. The New
(05:22):
England Patriots belong on that list. Robert, listen, man, Sorry, Robert,
you're nothing without Tom and Bill nothing. You belong on
the list of twenty owners who help sabotage their team?
Right and or am I wrong? I don't know that.
Now we're getting so I've gotten fifteen for sure. Text line,
if you want to help me out. The Chamans The
(05:44):
text line is three oh three, five, four, nine to five.
I need the twenty teams whose owners stop them from
winning it all? Who that the owner organization is so
poorly run that they can't win it all just because
of what's going on up top leadership, you know, trickles
(06:05):
down and and Peate was talking about it yesterday. I
don't know who, Nelson, do you have anybody else you're
thinking of? Because those are really just the rest of
these teams, Like they might have a bad season or
they might currently be going through a bad season, but
there's nobody on it that I'm like, yeah that they
they're they're done because of their ownership group. They're they're
out of it.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Did you already say did you already say the Browns?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Okay, because that's that's the one that comes to.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Wait, wait, no, I didn't. Did I not say the
Browns and HASLM? I don't think I did. So there
you go. That's sixteen. I cannot believe I missed Haslam
and the Browns the Saints, right, Jesse's right, Whatever is
going on with the Saints, man, whatever's going like yeah, yeah, yea, yeah,
you gotta put that. So that's seventeen. So the Colts,
you're right, and I mean we just the passing of
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Jim irsay, so they've got some things going on that
they're gonna have to But yeah, the Colts belong on
that list, although once again because of the transition, maybe
the maybe uh is it he says, daughter, I think
it's his two daughters are take okay, and maybe they're
better at this than he was, and then they and
they get off the list. But I think that's eighteen.
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We just named eighteen teams off the top of our head,
and we didn't did it easily. So Sean Payton's probably right, man,
He's probably right. We still got two more to go.
But I don't know who those two like, you know
what I mean, Like we've we've named them all. We've
named them all man. Basically, we named the entire AFC East.
The Bills are the only one, although yeah, the Bills
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are the only one who made it out. Everybody else
in the AFC is. He's like, yo, Miami, you're on
the list. In New England, you're on the list. The Jets,
you're on the list. Right there is we can't put
you can't put Pittsburgh or Baltimore on there, right because
Pittsburgh is I mean, no, no, Pittsburgh might not have
a mountain of Super Bowls in the last twenty years,
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but that I think people will consider the way they
handle their business like they run it the right way. Baltimore,
You're not gonna put on that list. We already put
the Tights, man, basically the entire AFC South. Could you
put the Texans on there, despite the fact that C J.
Stroud Would that get us to nineteen? Would we? I
don't know, man, I'm looking for one more team, one
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more team to make it twenty Green not not Green Bay,
Green Bay. Now they don't belong on the list. Minnesota
doesn't belong in the list. Detroit doesn't belong on the
least list right now? Should we put the Lines on
the list because what they did the previous forty years
or whatever? I don't Yeah, I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And also, some Steelers fans might tell you that they're
getting pretty fed up with ownership after nine years of
going eight to eight, not winning a playoff game, and
having absolutely no strategy whatsoever at quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger
hung them up. So Steelers, I don't know they might
be one of those fringe ones.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, I think like the fringe ones that I think
we got it. Pittsburgh is one of them and New
England is the other one, because I really want to
put them on there, you know what I mean, Like
I really want to put him on there. Man, I
don't trust Robert Kraft. He got hell of lucky, man.
But then again, I mean, maybe there's a Patriot fan
out there who thinks some nuts. But other than that,
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I think we hit twenty. Man, we got at least nineteen.
I don't know, Like, if you want to throw in Atlanta,
there's somebody else on there. I'll listen to it. But
we just named nineteen NFL teams who can't win anything
because the ownership group. And obviously that was one of
the more interesting things that Sean Payton said yesterday. Matter Bay.
I mean, the first three things he reeled off when
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he was asked that question when he was talking about
Super Bowls quarterback defense, offensive line, right, quarterback defense, offensive line.
The first three words that came out of his mouth
when he talked about what makes you think this team
could win a Super Bowl? QB, you got bo Nicks
doing what he does. And you know what, I got
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another I got a question for the I got another
question for the text line. We'll do that on the
other side when it when it comes to bow Nicks,
I got a question for y'all. UH defense obviously is
sexy as hell out here dun Valley. We we we
love it. We love it, we love it. And the
offensive line is amazing as well. That's why I would
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certainly love to see uh a commitment to the run,
because you know, offensive linemen love to to run block
more than they do too to pass block. But there
was the three keys according to Champayne. And guess what
seems like things have worked out? Yo, Nelson. Which version
of the song Everything is Gonna Be all Right? Do
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you like most? The Bob Marley version or the Naughty
by Nature version?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Oh? You know, I like Bob. Excuse I don't know
where that came from. I almost just said Bob Dylan.
I don't think he ever did three Little Birds.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
But I bet he killed, he'd killed, he'd kill a
cover of of of of Everything is Gonna Be all Right?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
And I don't mean to quibble tech that song is
called three Little Birds.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Now, it's not called everything's gonna be all right.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
No, because he talks about the three little birds on
his doorstep.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, no, man, I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yep, now you know, but I'm a bit of a
Marley Puris man. Everything's gonna be all right. JJ McCarthy's
pregame playlist. Remember before the draft, he told us he
listens to Johnman when he's getting warmed up for the game.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, he's gonna Coach already said he's gonna play this
this weekend. He's gonna get his first reps there this weekend. Well,
I mean, he had reps last season, but he's gonna
he's gonna play in that preseason game. So but that
should be the theme of this training camp. That's what
it felt like Yesterday's felt like this this entire time,
like everything's gonna be all right. Everything's gonna be all right,
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because you know what I mean, Like it just feels
it just feels like everybody's on the same page. They're
locking up all the players they need to lock up.
You like the quarterback, you like that, you love the defense.
Like everything's gonna be all right. That should be the
theme of this camp because the Broncos in general are
(12:05):
all right now. Things will get more interesting come this
Saturday when we actually get a preseason game uh to watch.
And yesterday Sean Payton did say that they would let
the starters are gonna go in this game. Matter of fact,
Sean Payton's brain you could tell when he was talking
about it. Sean Payton's brain is already working on how
he's gonna handle just two preseason games, because he mentioned
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it yesterday, how it's currently three, because he got he
got two questions about, you know, how do you handle
just three preseason games and a lot of young players?
How do you evaluate that talent when you have one
fewer preseason game? And he immediately mentioned that it's probably
gonna go to two, and I'm I think that man,
that means he's already got a plan for when he
goes to two. He also mentioned that you have to
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use these practices more, this camp, more in the evaluation
process than just game tape and what you see in
these preseason games. But it's gonna be tougher. It's gonna
be tougher, man, without these preseason games. I mean, there's
gonna be some there's gonna be some players who should
be playing in this league who will not be because
they just don't have enough time. There's just enough time
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or reps on the field to show that you belong
in this league. So, I mean it's kind of I
would be interested to know what Sean Payton thinks is
gonna happen when we go to two press, when we
go to eighteen regular season games in two preseason games?
How does he handle that? How how do you go
about talent evaluation? How do you go about building your
roster when you only have two preseason games to do it?
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And more and more teams are embracing the Sean McVay
of doing things like, na, I'm not gonna play a
player in a game that means nothing in which he
could get hurt. I'm not doing it. You're not for
I'm not doing it. And I mean, luckily, we're gonna
get to see the Broncos starters at least a little
bit this this Saturday against against the Niners, and the
Niners are all kinds of banged up. Yesterday we were
(13:57):
talking about the kicking battle that's going on in San Francisco.
That kicking battle's done. It's done. They they released they
kept Moody and released Joseph I think he was, And
it's because they need the roster spot. They're all kinds
of banged up. Man. They had what did Shanahan say?
They had nine ten guys who couldn't go due to injury.
(14:17):
So they're yeah, they're they're hello struggling. No that last
year San Francisco had to cancel a joint practice with
New Orleans because they were so injured. They just didn't
have enough bodies to practice, and uh Shanan mentioned like, yo,
we need the bodies because we're gonna have a joint
practice with the Broncos in a couple of days. And
because of all those nothing to do with the actual
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kicking battle, a dude loses his job and that welcome
to the world of the NFL. Man, not for long,
It's just the way things go.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And by the way, I cannot believe that Jake Moody
survived in the kicking competition. You remember he was the
one last season that I want to say, Deebo Samuel
choked on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, what was that him? Was that him? Was
it that the dude?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well, I know Jake Moody kept missing kicks, and I
think it was Diva that went over there and was.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Like stop missing, and they kept moody and it and
they got ready to Joseph. And I think they're kicking
stats were similar. I think their stick kicking stats were similar.
But I'm almost sure they kept moody and got ready
to cut Joseph yesterday, Uh, right after we were talking about, Hey,
look an actual camp battle here and sit. No, Uh,
it's done. It's done. But either way, training camp coverage
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Altitude Sports Radio. Every little thing is gonna be all right.
That's Broncos camp. Everything's gonna be all right. For the
first time in a long time, everything's gonna be all right.
It's taken. It's it's year three of Sean Payton, it's
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year two of bow Knicks, and it's year year three
of the Walton Pinner Group. Is that right? Or is
it longer than that? It has been three and a
half four years. Is four years the Walton Pinner Group.
And guess what we're now at the place where everything's
gonna be all right, everything's gonna be all right. This
team is looking good. We're talking about super Bowls around here,
(16:10):
and you know, you might not consider the Broncos a
top contender. Matter of fact, even all the top contenders
in the NFL right now, Like we don't know. We
don't know until we see some actual football games if
because I mean, there are there are wild swings in
an NFL. So there's always a team in the NFL
that you're like, man, they're gonna be good, They're gonna
be good, and then they're not, and you're like, what
(16:32):
happened there? What happened with that one? So and I
mean listen, and injuries in the NFL take it's such
a major, major, major part of what goes on in
this sport. I mean it happens in every sport, but
especially in the NFL, where every single play, somebody's getting
(16:55):
in a car wreck, somebody's getting hit that hard. So
I do speaking of people getting injured. Yahoo Sports did
something interesting. They they they put together a list of
all the teams in the NFL and they ranked them
by the difference the talent difference between their starting quarterback
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and their backup quarterback. So they were like, what are
the teams that if their starting quarterback goes down that
their backup has No, we're near the talent. No, we're
near the talent and can't get it done. Now, the
top three or four obvious are the obvious quarterbacks. They're
the best quarterbacks in the league, so their backup is
not what it should be. But who would you guess
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is number one on the list of the difference between
the starting quarterback and the backup quarterback? Nelson, just take
a take a shot. Who do you think it is
one the one.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Team biggest gap between the star starter and the backup.
Let's see, I'm gonna guess it's gotta be like Baltimore
or or or Buffalo or one of these.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, it's Buffalo. It's Buffalo who starts hard knucks tonight.
You can see whatever the hell they're doing. Yeah, they
have Josh Allen. Do you know who the backup to
Josh Allen in Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Is the Hailey Steinfeld.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Boy, it's better than what they got right now. I
watched I pay money to watch Haley throw the ball
with Ronalday That right, No, it's a Mitch Trubisky. Josh
Allen's backup is Mitch Trubisky, so that they have that's
the biggest gap in talent. And so Buffalo's like, if
Josh Allen goes down and we have to go to
Mitch Trubisky, guess what we're in trouble. We're in all
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kinds of trouble. Number two is uh, Kansas City. But
I mean you were right with Lamar. That's number three
on the list. Lamar's backup is Cooper Rush. So if Lamar,
an MVP candidate, goes down and you gotta handle go
with Cooper Rush, you got some issues. But Mahomes backup
is Gardner Minshew. Uh, Jalen Hurts. So everybody's taking shots,
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or not everybody, but a lot of people taking shots.
And Jalen Hurts is not one of the best quarterbacks
in league. But according to Yahoo, there's the one of
the bigger gaps in the league between a starter quarterback
and a backup quarterback is in Philly, where Jalen Hurts
is the starter and Tanner McKee is the backup. Joe
Burrow Jake Browning the Bengals is next Justin Herbert and
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Taylor Heineke. The Chargers are sixth. The Broncos are all
the way down at nineteen. They have both that Bo
Nicks and Jared Stidham, not separated by quite as much
as say a Trevor Lawrence and a Nick Mullins or
a Baker Mayfield and a Kyle Trash.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
There's some.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Bad there's some dudes making a lot of money being
bad backup quarterbacks in this league. Man, oh brother, you
know what last on the list? Nelson? What team is
last on the list where we don't even know who
their starting quarterback is? Basically is what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
It's don't know who their quarterback?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Is it gonna be Shuck? Is it gonna be Rattler?
The final two teams of the Indian Colts and the Saints.
The Colts have Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, And who
knows what you were the one who's pointing out yesterday
that they were. When they released the depth chart for
the Colts, it was either or right it had uh
Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones as as QB one.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, I even know, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
We'll get there and number the third worst situation is
Michael Pennocks and Kirk Cousins in Atlanta, but when so
they're trying to decide the talent gap between the starter
and the backup. But that's a weird one, right with
Michael Pennix, who has a really high ceiling, but he's
probably not where Kirk Cousins is right now. It's by
the way Kirk played last season, Like that's a weird gap.
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Like I think a lot of people would say right
now that Kirk's probably the better quarterback as we speak,
and that Pinnis could be the better quarterback here in
a couple of years once he he he matures cause
I I bring up I bring up that just because
I find it. I find it fascinating. But I have
a I have a question for the text line because
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they have they have Bonix there at nineteen and I
got a question for the text line. How how good
are you at talent evaluation? Broncos Country? I mean, just
in general, how good are you? Because I bring it
up like this, you know, when I was younger, when
I first started getting into sports, I really romanticize the
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life of a scout, like like a scout for an organization.
I thought it was. I thought it was amazing that
you you're the guy, You're the person who got to
see the greats before they were great, to find the
greats before they were great, you know. And then and
then I started working for the ABS and the Nugs,
and I found out what scouts actually do, and I'm like, oh,
hell no, that's the terrible That job is terrible. You
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work hours and hours and hours and hours and hours
and usually come up with nothing. It is a terrible, terrible,
terrible job. But I think a lot of us we've
been you know, if you're listen into this show right now,
if if you're working in sports radar like Jesse or Steve,
like you've been, you've been locked into sports now for
a while. And I think I think the human eye,
(22:10):
we we the the eye test is real. I think
people who've watched the sport for a long time can
tell when somebody is good at the game or bad
at the game. Now, the nuance of it is is
is different, but I think I think most fans can
can with their use the eye tests and see something.
So let me ask you this, because last year, guess
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what I thought bow knicks looked pretty good. Last year
and you know what, you know who else I thought
looked pretty good, like Boone Knicks. I thought bow Knicks
looked pretty good last year, and then this year people
are still doubting him. I thought Shdor Sanders I had
a lot of fun watching that man play quarterback at SeeU,
and we obviously know what happened to him in the
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draft and what's going Cleveland signed another q P. Cleveland
brought in Huntley Brother. They brought in Huntley because everybody's hurt.
Now Chador, they held him out for a while because
of a sure shore thor shoulder. He says in English. Uh,
but he was back yesterday afternoon, was Chador. But Gabriel's hurt.
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Flacco's fine, but obviously they're not gonna play him, so
they brought in another. They now have they have six
qbs and officially they have seven with Deshaun right right
or am I at no no? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, this
is like that's way too many quarterbacks. It's way too
many quarterbacks in Cleveland. But anyway, I got off on
a I got off on a tangent. But to me,
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Shador Sanders looks like somebody who can play in the
NFL and to me, Bo Nicks looks better than the
way some people talk about him. So on the shot
model of text online three h three five before oh
nine two five, you tell me, am I seeing something
that's not there? Am I crazy? Are you great? Like?
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I mean, what is it? What is especially with Shador? Like,
I guess I can get a little bit of the
bow thing because you're just going into your second year.
You just had a rookie year there in the NFL,
and it doesn't matter how many quarterbacks or how many
touchdowns you threw or games you won, you have to
do it again in the NFL. It's consistency at the
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quarterback position, which equals greatness. It's not throwing one seventy
yard bomb and winning a game and getting excited. No, no, no,
it's consistency. So I get that a little bit. And man,
maybe there was something else going on with Shador and
all that kind of stuff, but he seems to be
saying and doing everything right there in Cleveland. And I'll
tell you one thing that I don't know. Look, we
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put the Browns on that list of twenty teams that
can't win anything because of their leadership that Sean Payton
was talking about yesterday, we put Cleveland on that list, man,
and that's where they belong, right, But the best player
has to win the job, right. We talked about there's
weird political stuff in sports whatever or like one player
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doing something, and I guess like political is not the
right term is. I think the reindeer games that some
fans think might go on don't go on as much
as you think, because, especially in the NFL, the best
player gets the start. Right. If Shador Sanders is the
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best option in Cleveland, he's getting the start right that
that coaching staff is fighting for the lives. They're gonna
get got right, They're gonna get got so they have
to win. You can't be like some of the things
that that some of the Cleveland fans think might be
going no, no, right. If shadu Or is good enough
to play, he's gonna play. Right. There's not some weird
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like am I right? Am I wrong? But anyway you
tell me texta line, you tell me.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Nothing, you're right, especially if I feel like if you
have if everything's the same and you can either play
Joe Flacco or one of your young guys, wouldn't you
want to try one of your young guys.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
He's got a longer career.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Now. If you're the head coach of the Cleveland Browns
and you need to win now or you're gonna be gone,
you're gonna get got, You're gonna get fired. Matter of fact,
they might fire all of them. And that means that
if you think Joe Flaggo can win this one game
right now, you gotta play him. You gotta There might
be other situations in the NFL where you're comfortable enough
as the head coach and you can go to the
owner and say, hey, we're gonna start Michael Pennocks and
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we might lose more games than if we started Kirk Cousins.
But I think Pennick is gonna be a better quarterback.
I think we need to get him into winning mode
as soon as possible so we can start him. Maybe
you can do that in Atlanta, but you can't do
that in Cleveland, man. You can't just unless you go
you go to the owner and say, hey, mister h listen,
here's what's up. I'm gonna play a quarterback who's not
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gonna win as many games as maybe one of the
other guys would, but and stick with me here. We're
gonna be much better in the future if we do
this instead of being good, right. I don't, Man, that's
a hard ad. I don't think you can do it.
I think I don't think you can do it. I
don't think the Reindeer games like you. You can't play
him in Cleveland. Man, you can't. You can't. You got it,
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you Scott. You gotta start the best guy. You gotta
start the best guy. You gotta start the guy that wins.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
And by the way, I feel bad for for Dylan
Gabriel because he's kind of like the middle child. Everybody's
talking about Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett and now Tyler
Huntley and Shador Sanders and Dylan Gabriel's around there going, yeah, guys,
I got drafted like three rounds before Shador. What's the
take for me to get some some buzz here?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Dude? Yeah, Well, I mean and he like he started
a little slow and then he picked it up, but
then he got hurt. He was one of the quarterbacks
that got hurt, right, he strained something or some nonsense, Yeah,
hamstring strain or something weird like that. So he's not
going right now. So the best ability is availability man,
you gotta be out there to do it. You gotta
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be out there to show it. But yeah, that that
whole that that whole situation is crazy. It's crazy. But
I just want to know, like it's not just me, right,
It's not just me. There's something there. There's something else
going on with the evaluation of Shadura Sanders. There's just
I mean, there's all kinds of things in the atmosphere
like should or even mention I think it was just
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yesterday where you talking about like I don't know where
the hate is coming from or what or the why
is like. But eventually, if I just keep my head
down and keep playing, well you know, that's that's gonna
go away if I just keep being me. But that
is a weird, weird, crazy, weird, wild situation. So I
don't know, is and so am I wrong when it
comes to this town of evaluation at the quarterback position
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or is everybody else? I'm not sure. I have no idea.
But either way, the uh, the things that, uh things
that were going on yesterday here at camp. Outside of
some of the interesting things that Sean Payton said a
lot of two minute work yesterday, Champayton was Listen. If
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you gonna have a bunch of media chuckleheads out here
watching practice, you know what they're gonna talk about. They're
gonna talk about it when dudes still picks. And so
both threw a couple of yesterday and it was brought
up to Sean and he was like, listen, man, we're
counting picks like the hurricanes. You can't get too deep
into the weeds when it comes to stuff like that
(29:23):
because we're trying different things. But listen that this, this
is where we're at, right Nelson, you have that cut
from Champayton.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, look, we're charting picks here like like hurricanes. So
he's doing fine.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Whoa, somebody gave him a real big media laugh on
that one, Like I think it's a good line, but
that's a that's a huge laugh for a counting picks
like the hurricane. But Litsten, that's what's gonna happen, man,
guess what the fans are talking about. What the fans
are gonna talk about when the dude throws a big yeah, Na, listen,
it's just what's gonna happen. But yeah, he was like
basically was like, stop stop counting picks in in in
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camp man like it's it's not that big of a
deal already talking about how Sean Bray. I think Sean
Payton's brain is thinking about how to evaluate talent when
it's just two When when we go down to two games,
we are we get is it gonna happen next year?
Are we to get eighteen regular season games next year?
When is that decision even gonna be made next at
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the start of next offseason? Or do you do you
need another lead up? Did they did they give us
a year lead up to the seventeen game schedule? They
just like seventeen games, let's go. I can't recall. I
cannot remember. Jason Garrett was out here at practice. Sean
Payton says he's known him for twenty five years basically,
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and Garrett is he's still doing Sunday Night Football, right
He's an analyst for NBC Sunday Night Football. At least
I think that's where last week left him. Although Sean
Payton says he's doing a podcast now, Jason Garrett, Although
who ain't got a podcast? Jesse, do you have a podcast?
Come on, man, come on, I bet you Nelson does
Nelson you got a podcast?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Not yet, you're going to have a podcast? Is that
what you're trying to say? If if Jesse wants to
start one man home run, how do you.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, well you can just call it spins spends the podcast,
spends the podcast like, let's do it. But by the way,
Carrett was out here.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
You want to hear what Sean Payton had to say
about Jarrett Stidham yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, he's been good.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
He's playing well too, and and uh, it's a good room.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Cool, Okay, this is what I'm talking about. Everything's gonna
be all right. Everything's going fine. He's got good things
to say about the starting quarterback, he's got good things
to say about the backup quarterback. Everything's gonna be all right.
It's just one of those seasons, man, until it's not.
We talked about the Super Bowl win. He traits QB
defense offens in line. But and then the the ownership
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in the in the in the twenty teams who who
can never win it because of their ownership? And we
try to decide who those teams were. Peyton in an
article with what who was he talking to? He said
he's coached six teams that he believed could win it.
All and this team this season is the seventh, which
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is high praise. I mean, Sean Payton's been around a
lot of teams and a lot of good teams because
he won a lot of games there in New Orleans,
even if they didn't win. But that won Super Bowl
in nine or twenty eleven. When was the Saint Super
Bowl twenty eleven? It was nine? Okay, yeah, So that's uh, QB, defense,
(32:38):
offensive line. All three things that the quarterbacks or that
the Denver Broncos feel like they've got locked down pretty well,
is those three spots, QB, defense and offensive line. So
I don't know, man, it's both but also like fulfilling
(33:04):
to nothing. Listen, listen, Nelson, listen, listen, brother, listen. Do
you do you are you unhappy about the fact that
we're not on the radio every day screaming about the
quarterback position, because that's what we've been doing here for
Can you imagine what what were we saying? Well, last
year we were talking a lot about bo but two
(33:25):
years ago, man, it was nothing but quarterback talk around it,
nothing but QB talk, I mean, and for good reason.
For good reason, is the most important position on the
football field. And if you don't have one.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You got nothing burto So I mean, this is the
best way possible this training camp. I'm thinking back in
all the time it's been brief, but in my brief
media career covering Denver Sports, this has been the most
boring training camp I've ever seen, and I am so
happy about that. We're not talking about positional battles. We're
(33:59):
not talking about, Oh, is this high draft pick going
to turn the team around.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
All we're saying is I think things are good. Could
we just start the season already? I mean, Brett for
weeks you I think you asked the same thing. Everybody's
been trying to find a storyline. What's the storyline from
this camp? Vic said, The only storyline is nobody get hurt.
Back to you guys at the desk, I am so
happy and thankful and grateful that this camp is as
(34:24):
boring as it is.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
That is a privilege.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy to be like, man, that's
kind of boring and be happy about it, because you're right.
There really are no position battles, there are no beef.
Nobody's angry at the front office because they ain't got paid.
Like even Nick Benito is like, but that's because I
think they're gonna pay him. So if you're nicky, you're
probably like, no, no, that. Sean Payton did bring up
(34:47):
nick yesterday, nothing about his contract, but he was talking
about instincts and that Benito has really good instincts, and
he was saying that, you know, there are some some
players who just don't have don't have those instincts. You
just have to coach it up a little bit. And
then just some guys who naturally have those kind of
instincts where Benito can sense the ball. I guess Peyton
was saying, and feel it or whatever. What are those
(35:08):
instincts up? So, I mean they they once again they
talked about him, but I mean, I feel like even
if he has this up decent season, they're gonna pay
that man. Matter of fact, I wonder if they're still talking.
I wonder if they're still talking, I wonder what the like.
I wonder if Benito, like obviously Benita, wants to get
paid down because this you never know what's gonna happen.
You could get your career could end here in a
(35:29):
week's time. But I wonder, I wonder what those conversations
were like, yeah, pay him the muni. But either way, Uh,
we are company alive from Douve Valiere. Your training camp
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Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, look, we're charting picks here like hurricanes. So he's
doing fine.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
He's doing fine, man, hurricanes. We're through with hurricane season though, right,
Hurricane bow Her, Hurricane bow coming at you here in
six days time when they take on Sam fran As
a coach said yesterday, they we will see the starters
in that one. Welcome back to uh, Brett Kane's little
little sixty minute show that they like to call Brett
(36:20):
Kane in the morning. Right is that? What is Brett
Kane in the morning. BKA decided to take the week off,
so I'm ketting up early. Also, something's on fire, Jesse,
what's on fire? Right? What is that? Man? That's not good?
But where was I? Oh? Yeah, Brett's gone and I'm
(36:40):
here and Vicki mosl joined me here at Douve Valley
in uh just about fifteen minutes time. Steve Nelson is
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serious lawyers for the seriously injured. If you'd like to
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one price, one person, one hour, three oh three five
or four nine two five. Now, I am a person
(37:05):
who has said for for a very long time that
you should name your children whatever you want to name them.
You know what I mean. And I'm four like me
and Jesse are huge Optimist Prime fans. I'm more than
happy if you want to name your kid Optimist Prime,
name your kid optimst Prime, do it, do it, just
do it. That's fine with me. But I will say
there are some names that if you name your kid,
(37:26):
you are almost predicting their future. You're like, I wanna
name my kid this name. He is definitely gonna serve
time in prison later in his life. And I spring
it up simply because of this. A man was arrested
for throwing sex toys onto the court of a WNBA game.
The Atlanta Dream were playing this weekend and a dude
(37:48):
uh decided to throw some sex toys on the court.
He got arrested. None of that, and they threw the
book at that dude. He got like four charges. He
got four or five charges. Twenty three year old kid
throwing sex toys on the court the w NBA game. Now,
if there is one name that you could name your kid,
that would mean in the future he would throw a
sex toy on an NBA w NBA court. This is
(38:11):
the name. This is the name. The guy's name is Gilbert.
The you name your kid Gilbert, this is what you get.
This is what you kids. You get sex toys on
the court, and arrest is what you get. Man, this
guy's gonna serve time for it. He's gonna serve time
and it. Don't name your kid Dilbert, man, because this
(38:32):
is what happens. He gets arrested watching the Atlanta I
don't even know who the dream we're playing, but he
gets arrested watching him like that. Dude had to smuggle
that thing in. You can't just walk in with it
on your shoulder, right, Yeah, he had to hide that.
Like those crazy dudes in Detroit who hide the octopus
down their pants. They put the they tie the they
tie the octopus, and then they put it in their
(38:54):
pants and they tied it around their waist like a belt,
and then they get and then they throw. They like that.
They're like, listen, man, I love my team too, but
I ain't putting an octopus in my pants for him.
That's crazy talk. And I'm not hiding a sex toy
so I can in the middle of the game just
toss it on him. Like what kind of craziness is that? Man? Anyway,
don't name your kid Dilbert is then like I did.
(39:15):
This is the first time I've heard named Dilbert. And
like Jesse, you know anybody named Dilbert Nelson, you know
anybody named Dilbert. This is the dude's first name. His
first name is Dilbert.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I've never met a Dilbert.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I remember the comic strip like in the newspaper, Delbert
doesn't the one that worked in the office.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Maybe that's why they named their kid Gilbert. They just
love that cartoon so much. I don't know. Man, Just
don't do it this otherwise you're hiding sex toys and
getting arrested. Just don't do it. Also, stop bothering w
NBA players in the middle of the game. That's just weird, man,
that's just weird. Uh, somebody else did it too, but
(39:55):
that guy didn't get caught. Somebody somebody did it, like
this guy got snitch on it. As soon as he
threw it. The guy sitting next to him was like,
what do you do it? And he called the usher over.
The guy got arrested, but somebody else did it later
in the game, and nobody snitched. Nobody knows who it was.
He got away with it. Man, I kid, they hit
that guy. I should look it up. But they hit
him with a uh. They hit him with four charges
(40:19):
a couple of none of them were felonies, but they
were all like resisting arrest, like indecent exposure. Even though
he you know what I mean it was, they hit
him with all kinds of stuff. Man. But either way,
so just I'm just saying, don't name your kid it.
There's right, that's gotta be one of the top ten names.
(40:39):
Not to name your kid, because something weird is gonna
happen unless it's a family name. But right right, like
text line knows what's up, text line is coming up.
There's some yeah, you knew somebody named Folonia, like as
in felony, like a felon. Put the version of felony anyway,
(41:04):
once again, I am all for naming your kid weird name, like,
go for it, get craze, go crazy Nelson. When when
you have a kid, will you're gonna name your kid?
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Well, now I'm gonna have to do Dilbert just to
spite you.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
No, Nolbert. Now that kid's already can have all your
nerdiness shoved into their Jean pool. Man, you gotta come
up with a dope name to offset some of that
brass band nonsense. Not that brass bands are nerdy the
way you do brass bands are a little nerdy, though, Bro,
you know what I'm saying, Man, it offsets it.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Now you got to remember what was that kid? Remember
that kid? Who he was the like the number four
picking the draft? Maverick? Like, don't name your kid Dilbert,
name your kid Maverick Nelson. Okay, right, but I mean
that kid's getting into a fight too. Both those kids
are getting in a fight. One of them was gonna
win that fight though, right? What was gonna win that fight?
And listen, you know what I can it would be
(42:00):
if you think your kid's gonna be six seven, three fifty,
go ahead and name him Dilbert and then you're not
gonna have an issue because Bilbert just go around popping
just like that dude on the golf course. Bang, that's
exactly what Delbert be doing. Go ahead and make fun
of my name. But yeah, if they're like, if there
is a name to counteract the Dilbert, whatever that is,
it's probably Maverick, right, Like, what's the I knew a
(42:22):
guy whose name was Ace, which was kind of weird,
you know what, He's like, what's up? Ace? It's like,
but I still feel it. I see, I see the
dream with a name like that Dilbert nine. He's doing it,
and I can't do it, and I won't.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Would I just call my shot and name my kid
like Miles Davis Nelson.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Ooh see bro, See that's tough too, man. You can't
be naming your kid Steven Spielberg or John Elway. You can't.
You can't be putting that kind of like like those
people whose last name is Jordan and they name their
kid Michael, Like you gon put that on your kid,
Like Michael's a great name. Michael's a great name everybody had,
you know, but you go, you would name your kid
(43:01):
after the greatest basketball player in the history. Now, man,
that's crazy talk. Just don't do it. Just don't do it.
I don't like that name. The other only name I
don't like is when you get to like chuckles mcbuckles
the fifth or whatever, like nah nah nah, that's the
lamest thing. Like listen, man.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Nah chuckles mckbuckles the fifth.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah, you can talk about you know what I mean?
When when they're like, well you go Junior, the third,
the fourth, like you just keep naming your kid your name,
just right down the line. You name your kid your name,
and then you make your kid name their kid your name,
and then you make your grand kid name there. You
know what I mean. That's weird to me.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
That's my favorite Downton Downton Abbey character, by the way,
is chuckles mcbuckles the fifth.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Chuckles mcbuckles the fifth. Man. Dude brings it every game.
Somebody in the text line says you should name your kid.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Throck Morton, throck Morton Nelson.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
I mean, listen, that's a good strong Like what's the
one name you could give your kid that would almost
guarantee them a professional sporting career?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Honestly, I coach Sandford knows what's up. Because he named
one of his sons Gunner. Tell me, Gunner, Sandford isn't
gonna be like a big ten quarterback.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, no, no, no, listen, listen. I've had this conversation
with Sanford. He's his kids are not that athletics because
right away, you know what I mean, he's he's a
ball coach. He knows what's up. He's looking for arm strength,
he's looking for he's looking for some certain certain abilities
that he's like, I don't think they God, I don't
think I don't think they got him.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
That.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
You're right, that is a good name for like, yeah,
this dude, But if there's one, like a great hockey
name or a great football name, like I was thinking,
who was I thinking about. We'll get into this with
vick E. Moje, but I was thinking about some of
the great quarterback to wide receiver combos in the history
(44:56):
of the NFL, like Joe Montana to Jerry Rice or
hell Steve Young to to Jerry Rice. And uh, I
guess we can't put Lway Sharp on there since Sharp
is a tightian. Can we put john Away to be?
Cause I think Shannon john Away through Shannon Sharp more
touchdowns than any other player in his career, like he
threw more touches to Shannon than any other player in
(45:18):
his career. I believe so. But anyway, I was, I was,
I was thinking about that. I was thinking about that,
those kind of duos and how it all is. How
long do you think that chemistry takes to to get
you don't want to me to like Bow and Courtland
or or Bow and Patrick or Bow and whoever? How
long does that take? How long does it take? Man?
(45:40):
Y'all need to stop bothering me. I'm here filling in man,
I'm not don't even need my job, bro. Sorry, we're
getting We're getting heckled from the cheap seats. Brother, We're
getting heckled from the cheap seats. Well take a break. Well,
we'll bring in motion Vic next right here live from
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