May 20, 2025 • 36 mins
Join Stacey Chillemi on Mindset & Self-Improvement — The Advisor for an awe-inspiring exploration of how the Dalai Lama’s teachings ignited a 14-year spiritual pilgrimage through 15 distinct faith traditions. In this episode, uncover the universal truths that unite us all and learn how interfaith wisdom can catalyze your own journey toward inner peace and purpose. What You’ll Discover:
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- 🕉️ Interfaith Insights: Key lessons from Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, and more
- 🌏 Universal Truths: How the Dalai Lama’s compassion bridges cultural and religious divides
- 🧘 Mindful Practices: Daily rituals inspired by each tradition to ground your mind and elevate your spirit
- 💬 Personal Transformation: Real-life stories of seekers who applied these teachings to overcome doubt, fear, and disconnection
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Advisor with Stacy Chilaim. Today,
I have a very exciting author on the show today.
He is an amazing person. He has met the Dalai
Lama and he has written a book and explained his
journey along with other things to help us broaden and
expand our mind, our body, our soul, and to help
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us in our overall journey through life. And he his
name is Deepak, and he is just an amazing individual
and I'm really excited to have him on the show today.
Before we begin, I just want to give a quick
shout out to our sponsors today, to iHeartRadio, to Speaker,
and to YouTube for Sharon and sponsoring this episode. Thank
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you so much. And if you like this episode, don't
forget to share and like and subscribe to our channel.
Thank you so much. Now, it is such an honor Deepak,
to have you on the show today. For people who
don't know you, can you share a little about yourself
and what you do?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes. First of all, the Stacey, thank you for having
me on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Big numbers day to you, and a big, big big
numbers date to all our friends out there. So a
little bit about myself. I'm originally from India, but I'm
very British trained. I did my electrical engineering MBA there.
In fact, I lived in the UK for ten years
and I started my work with a multinational company before
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transferring to the US in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I then went on to.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Manage a series of power initiatives at multiple points of
the globe, working with some very dynamic cross functional teams
in over thirty countries.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So yeah, it was very.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Engaging work, very you know, very very interesting people, lots
of of dynamic travel. Now, somewhere along the way, I
came to write a book about an engineer's analysis on divinity.
And so this book is called Life the Spiritual Lessons,
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and it is specifically designed for the tier one global
professional to want to strive to be the absolute best
at what they can be, how they can become a
spiritual billionaire on a daily basis, and how to win
against all odds in the face of increased work pressures
in the global workplace. Now, this journey took me some
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fourteen years of research, touching ultimately thirty eight countries. Actually
sat down and countered it. I had to, you know,
it was it was such an drolling journey and it
Now what what sparked the book? This was, you know,
that's the obvious question, because you know, you're you're running
around building power plants. And they would three events within
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a six month period commencing end of two thousand and eight.
So the first one was that I picked up a
key scripture on Hinduism. And this was given the need
for a timely holistic stress management system because when you're
working with you know, interactive teams the world over, your
life begins to run away from you, like miss you know,
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to give you scale, Miss Stacuo, in eighty hours a
week was just normal in some cases, you know, including
weekend works, it was very exhausting. So I picked up
the scripture and being the classical engineer, in fact, it
took me five years to read it.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It was a twelve hundred page book and I.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Read less than a page a day, you know, with
a lot of you know, derivative studies on the on
the side.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Now, the next event was this was just four months later.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I'm on a flight to Tokyo and lo and behold
who comes and sits across the r from me?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Is this holiness? The Dalai Lama.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Tibet, and I said, wait a minute, this is so cool.
So I had the perfect view of him for eleven hours.
Now what happened was just about an hour before we
landed in Tokyo. He kind of encouraged me over and
I got his blessings and I'm I'm down on my
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knees and I'm telling you, I said, sir.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I know this is no coincidence, you.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Know, because I started, you know, on a very uh
the scriptural journey, and you know, he smiled cheerfully at me,
the beautiful moonface of his.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And I then went on to meet him the next,
you know, a second time, ten years later.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But anyway, I came out of that and that was
the material shift. And then just a couple of months
later this time, I'm now in Istanbul in Turkey.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I've gone to visit a power plant site.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I ran into a US Vietnam veteran US Marine
Corps and Miss Stacy. I immediately I knew there was
something about this guy. And as I began to probe him,
you know, because I you know, I'm the eternal optimist,
and you know, the eternal you.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Know, very inquisitive. So as I began to probe him.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I began to realize that he was exhibiting some powers
that one would typically associate with our traditional holy men
and women in the world.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Over, but it was it was very tangible.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
In nature, and that, you know, sparked the engineer in
me and I said, wait a minute. So when I
sat back and I looked at these three events, I
had this intuition that these three events were somehow interconnected
and the term divinity was emanating out of each one
of the three incidents, you know, be it the the
the subtle area of the dial lama or the material
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energies that this Vietnam veteran was was, you know, was
showing and it was experiential in nature, you know, the
term energy was in there. And at that point I said,
this demands some investigation. I said, I'm not going to
stop until I sort this out. And that and that
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sparked my journey of research or fourteen years, touching thirty
eight countries, precisely on how the substratum of energy interconnects
all aspects of our existence under the corporate auspices of divinity.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So subtle in material energies, you.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Know, for example, nature, people places, culture, science, and spirituality.
I ended up even researching fifteen religions that's you know,
embedded as part of this within this to.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Ninety six page book.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And it basically just you know, the if there were
any cuffs, they came off.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You know, now now the gloves were off.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And I was just going down, you know, charging down
the path of research. And I tell you, miss Stacy,
when you are sincere in new efforts and you do
something out of purity, it is wonderful.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Just how many.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
People showed up to help. I mean, people came out
of the woodword. I estimated that they were probably north
of one hundred people that showed up, including some leaders
who have materially influenced the past century. A case in
point Nuremberg prosecutor UH Benjamin Farends.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
He was the last surviving.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Prosecutor, and he was telling me how when he went
into the concentration camps, how they were being liberated, how
he tried the people. And then people like that, you know,
like Colonel James Harvey of the Tuskegee Airman.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So he's become.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
A friend of mine, you know, just bought an honor
to Saip, you know, with a man like that. And
then you know varied leaders, you know, like doctor stry
Muskrave from NASA. I mean he uh, he was on
the on the mission to fix the Hubble telescope.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
So he sent me blurbs for the book. And then
you know various leaders.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
From UH and including rabbis, monks, you know, people just
began to show.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Every time I needed the help, someone showed up.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So ultimately the book and once again I really wasn't
planning to write the book, you know, write a book.
It was just that I received so much encouragement from
my colleagues and general electric that they said, hey, the fact,
let's you know, start putting together.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So during the COVID period is where I couldn't travel.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And at that point this ex editor in chief of
Harpercollumns shows up and he does the book for me
on a freelance basis. And as I was mentioning, Miss Stacy,
I mean talk about professionalism, that is best. It excites
your professional curiosity. I mean he taught me how to.
He actually taught me that from you know, to grow
skill sets, from working power plans to being able to
be able to write a book. So the book itself
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miss Stacy is constitutes five parts in its journey of
examining how and first of all, it offers a macro
level viewpoint and then it delves into various analyses. So
it's in five parts. The first part is what I
call the six trigger Points, which is basically this took
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seven years of testing and seven years to put together,
and seven years of testing.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I've been testing it every morning. I ground myself daily.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It's twenty five points segregated into six action oriented quadrants
of the mind. And it's like the subliminal box of
tools that I use daily as you know, as you
you begin to rewire the circuitry in your brain on
how to, on how to you know, overcome your weaknesses
and head into the path of purity. The next two
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sections are primarily theosophical. It's you know it examines and
while the book has fifteen religions, there are there's a
structural analysis on the world's five major religions and UH
and many people may think this is a comparison, but
it is. And what I did was I developed sixteen
cardinal pillars of what supports the iterative science and the
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vision behind each of these religions and then I started
to fill them out. Now, initially I thought, oh, as
an engineer, let me do a three page white paper
and go over there. But as I began to develop,
I said, wait a minute, this is this is really
this is heavy stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Now I'll tell you a very funny story.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I was.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I was struggling with Buddhism and Juddhism and I had
to travel to Santiago, Chile, and that that morning I said,
you know, when I come back into UH, I'm going
to go reach out into the community and you know,
get a rabbi and a mark. And guess what, Miss Stacy,
I changed planes at DC. Rabbi came and sat next
to me, and a monk comes and sits behind me.
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And I ended up working four years with each one
of them to develop, you know, these structural tables. So
each time, you know, so I worked with the swamily,
with the minister and Eat and and a lot of
other holistic and spiritual experts you know, came in and
it took four years just to develop that section.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Then the next.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Section is how we now have a complete energy model
in place? And what I did this was this was
I think possibly the most fun part of the journey
is that I picked some boundary conditions and said, let's
see how this model comes together, but with the least
incursion into belief and and and so that began, and
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it was really go out and that deals with the
involution and the evolution of the universe. But ultimately it
maps out the journey of the confused soul into turning
himself into a warrior, then a warrior into a warrior mark,
then into a mark, and then back up through the channels,
through multiple techniques to merge back to the divine source.
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And that was and I came pretty close. It was
there was only you know, a few bridges that I
had to cross over and said, now you know this
this there has to be a god up there.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And then the last section was it's a spiritual travelogue.
So what that means is that this engine and that's myself.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
He describes, you know, as pictorial stories twenty two specific
experiences that he did when as he was translating philosophical
principles into spiritual reality. So just a few examples, you know,
ranging from the cacao farms in Ecuador where you know,
you see chocolate at the pod level and you see
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how people entire families are leading living close to nature,
and up to uh the Otakama Desert where they were
doing the testing for the Mars rover emissions. And then
on to the great plains of Tornado Eye because I
wanted to see how energy works. And then into very
challenging locations like the concentration camps of World War two,
so I visited Auschwitz, Berkenal Uh, you know Bach how
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they're very, very difficult, and then finally even up into
the Kuchi Tunnels of Vietnam.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So ultimately this book came you.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Know, those are the five parts of the book, and
it offers a series of philosophical, spiritual, religious technical analysis
and it's you know, it's been assimilated thanks.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
To the you know, acadgory of experts who came together.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Wow, that's amazing. Now this book dives deep into the
the illiterate science behind the five major religions and modern
leadership philosophies rooted in ancient scriptures. How does these analysis
enhance our understanding of diverse spiritual teachings and inspire leadership practice.
This is across various professions.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
So that's a great question, sim states, So as I
was working my way through like you know, for example,
in Hinduism, there's the in the Githa, you know, they
talk about the mahabarat, which is the good between you know,
of five good versus you know, enemies. But really it
talks about the moral struggles that we have within ourselves.
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And so there are as you know, it's because each
person there are three we have three fundamental energies, right,
which is purity.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
We have a bank or passion, and then we have dullness.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And the question is at any given moment in time,
where is your bank or passion point? Is it towards
purity or is it towards dumness. See try going for
a full day without getting angry even for a second.
Just see how difficult that. And that's what I do
with the you know, with the holistic table. I checked
myself off. So if I yelled at a driver you know,
you know, down the road, I said, no, no, I
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shouldn't have done that. So what happened was that I
examined leadership in myriad industries, you know, ranging from defense
into you know, obviously corporate industry, and all the way
even into the entertainment world. I met some of the
top liners you know, you know number one and number
number two, and I would examine how energy, divinity and
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leadership were all working together in there and from now
now there is so many articles on leadership, but I
was able to delve down into what some of the
key elements of what separate separates leaders from the greatest
leaders you know, and this is this is when you
sit with a doctor story Muskrat, where you're talking to
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Benjamin for far ends, or you're talking to the President of India,
and you know, these were just some of the people
that I happened to meet. You began to understand what
made them who they are and what you know, why
they are considered so great. And there were three key
points that I found. And again this is all coming
down from scriptures. See it in Christianity, you see it
in Buddhism, you see it in Islam, you see it
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in Judaism, and you know every religion does that. But
there are three key elements that I found. One is humor,
always keep that inner trial going in you. The second
is humility, and the third, which I rate above all,
is an utter sense of selflessness for a larger cost.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So I'll give you one example. So I spoke.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I mentioned I spoke with Benjamin Friends. You know, he
was the last surviving prosecutor then Urremberg trials. And I
asked him, I said, sir, can you give me an
example of what you know? How what do you think
of material world? And you know what he said, Miss Tercy.
He said, oh, I've donated all my savings. Now think,
let's think for a minute. I don't have that kind
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of courage.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But yeah, look at.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
The boundaries of fear. This man crusted to be able
to do that. The other thing he told me was
he said, I sit with my children every single day
and I I asked them every single day, tell me
what you did for humanity.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Now, these are the lessons that you're getting from from leaders.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
And I was starting to make all the links back
into the multiple scriptures as I was going along.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yes, yeah, My question is, you know, we have so
much stigmatism in our society about one religion versus other religion.
And you know, one is more accurate, one is more better.
And you know, you hear people get into it because
of the different religions and and they have, you know,
their own qualms. Did you find from from working and
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interview in so many different religious leaders, do you find
that there is more similarity than difference? Because I find
when when I study different religions, we're really all the same.
There might be some little differences here and there, but
when you look at it all as a whole, each
religion is pretty much similar to the other religion. It's
just some things are a little bit different, but it
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pretty much it all constitutes the same purpose.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes, that's an excellent question. So if you look at it.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
So some some of the religions they stem from a
single god, Okay they say there are no Some stem
from multiple deity gods and deity is cheer one, Chier two,
and Chier three. Some don't even believe in a god.
They believe in a system of energy, like like Buddhism.
Primarily it says it comes from a system. When they
asked the Buddha about God, he was apparently apparently he
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was silent. But the point man that I found, and
but I found a lot more commonalities because it's all
about excellence. It's all about you know, personal transcendence. And
the one thing that I saw on all my travels
is that people the world over notwithstanding their beliefs, each
one is trying to cope with the problems that they
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have and they that they can you know, have to
take on on a daily basis to support their families
and universally, Man, what I found is that every religion
acknowledges that this you know, so this earth is not
our permanent home, That there is suffering, that there is
suffering and bondage here.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So the pats are on through multiple techniques to be
able to lead lives of joy and avoid of fear.
That's what the biggest takeaway I you know, through sure experientials.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I agree with you. I totally think that we are
here for a purpose. We are here to learn, We
are here to enhance, you know, through the good and
through the bad, and that I believe, you know, there
is something waiting afterwards. Also, you know, we are here
to as a journey and we are here to learn.
And no matter what religion you are, no matter you
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know what, you know, what you believe in, you know
there we all constitute similarities. We're all human, we all
have emotions, we all have you know, you know, we
all we all react and do things very similar. We
just have some differences in certain areas. But when it
comes to religion, if you look at all the different religions,
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the purpose is are very similar. Like you said, like
Budenism may have energy, but still like when you look
at the purpose of Budanism and you look at what
it constitutes, it's very similar to you know, it's all
about love, peace, gratitude, giving, kindness, humility, it's all And
if you base a lot of religions, it's all based
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on those those aspects as well.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And yes, yes, one of the points them I'd like
to bring out is that you see, whether you believe
in a God or you don't, the creation laws have
tremendous divinity with them and the essence of that divinity
is lies at the core of every human being.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And it is our duty.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And everybody is trying in their own unique ways to
try and improve their lives, and it is absolutely our
duty to do so, you know, and whatever the techniques
may be, right and you're going to learn. And you know,
as they say, every every saint has a has a
pastor every sinner the future. So we're all in this,
you know, this journey, you know, coming along, and of
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course that also there are other topics like what they
call a relative you know, creation, sustenance, and dissolution, and
you know.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
The the the the overall combination of good, bad and evil,
you know in the in upper level. So it's a
very complex, uh you know story.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
But but these are the core principles that everyone goes from.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I love that now, you know. Life The Spiritual Essence
is described as an encyclopedia resource for professionals, offering avenues
for exploit, exploration, and growth. How can readers leverage the
insights and the mythologies presented in this book to enhance
their personal and professional lives?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So as mentioned man, you know, first of all, it's
an action oriented book right there is you know, it's
all about it.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
You know this is this just comes straight from you know,
working in industry and you know you have to come
up with timely solutions. So the first thing you want
to do is that, and that's why I created the
first which is pretty universal, is the holistic, strategic, energetic chart.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So very simple example.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I'll give you There are six main points in there,
and then I'll talk a little bit about the others.
So the first, the first major box is all about purity, passion,
and dullness. So the question is that I mentioned, how
do you always take you know, pointed towards purity at any.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Given point in time. The second box is all about
work into worship.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
You know, watch Roger Federer in action, right, watchman, look
at that intense concentration. That is divinity at work. May
not be religion, but it is divinity. It is pure spirituality.
How do you face your fears? The third one is
about dynamic quietude or an inner silence. How do you
always maintain an inner silence? So what that means is
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you take your you take your all your talents, and
you quiet and down you you out all the fluff
to be able to operate in the most efficient manner.
The fourth one is to understand the interconnected nature of
the universe.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And even a simple thought like that, Miss Stacey.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
You see when you say that you know a competitor
of yours at work is, in fact, at some level
within this universe connected to you, integrally connected to you.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
You begin to cheer for that person. You you now
preclude jealousy.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You see how powerful that thought is, And then you know,
as you start to cleanse yourself out, you now start
to operate out of the higher echelons. You know where
you are now a very spiritual, cheerful, dynamic force to
you know, to be reckoned with. And at the same
time you're beginning to lose all your progressive you know,
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you feel that your your all your fears. You begin
to transcend into new heights. So that's the first mental
house cleaning. You know that what everybody.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Should engage in.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Then come all the options, right, be it philosophical, whether
it's religious, whether it's spiritual, whether you believe in energy.
But it's all about taking and experiencing for yourself. And
slowly but surely you begin to understand how you operate.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
As a person.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Are you, for example, very analytical in nature or are
you very energetic in nature?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Or are you a combination of both?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Accordingly, that will help you, first of all, to balance
your life on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Two, it helps you to understand that which which skills
you know?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Should I pick and run with and always pick one
or two skills?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
No more? You know, because I admit so many I admit.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
So many peoples Stacy who are so multi talented, but
they never devote enough time to any given one. And
as a consequence, they have not achieved their goals. So
you have to be you'll be very single minded in
the manner in which that you, uh, you know, that
you progress, but while keep maintaining absolute equanimity and integrity
and love for other people. So ultimately it begins to
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the Not only does it explain how energy ultimately connects
us all right, at multiple levels of existence, going from
the material into the subtle, into the subtler and then
up into the cause of planes, where you're now getting
close to the original, you know, to the source of creation,
but it also maps out, maps out pathways for you
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to follow. And the one thing, the one thing with
sac I stayed very honest. I tried my absolute best
not to be judgmental. So I laid things out, you know.
I suggested an energy model, you know, which which is
pretty pretty conclusive, was actually enthralling exercise to do it,
I mean, trust as engineers.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know. But then you know, it was all about
proving it, you know. And I had some remarkable.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Experiences along the way, you know, as I was, as
I was meeting people, and I must tell you this,
in my eleventh yearter of research, I suddenly saw like
a big crystal ball.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Over my head.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
It was like a fear of miss Stacy, and it
was my Eureka moment, and I could see all the
links like floating around like calculus in there, and it
was just remarkable. And then and then that vision passed,
and at that point I said, I think I'm close
to now assimilating the dog to a similate the book.
So it offers you a whole range of options, you know,
for you to analyze and then pick your pathway.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Sorry for the long winded thing, but I get so
passionate about honest.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
You mentioned that when you wrote this book, you weren't
even beforehand, you weren't even anticipating on writing a book.
You start out with notes, and so can you tell
us a little about that. What inspired you to to
take these thoughts in these notes and to create such
a beautiful book like this.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So again the Stacy, it was the three events, you know,
which were very experiential. So I'll you know, I'll tell
you the one that actually woke me up. Yeah, when
I when I met the Vietnam I mean meeting meeting
the Da laa Is. It's just incredible, you know, you
can sense that impossible aura of peace and pure love,
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and it put meates through the air.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
It is very very physical almost, you.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Know, and if you are observant, you can actually, you know,
you can sense you can almost see it. But what
happened was when I was with the Vietnam veteran. He
must have seen something, but he started to tell me.
He says, look the packer. He says, you're going to
do some pretty cool things. And I'm like, what is
he talking about? And you know, we were sitting at
a table and he was about six feet away from me,
and he said, the.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Pac put up your hands, and so I put up
my hands like this.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
He put up his hands at a distance and he
just went like this, and I felt this.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Last hit me. It was it was like a It
almost felt like somebody.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
The best way to say is that when we were kids,
we would go to the doctor's office and you know,
they would take a little hammer and they tap your knee. Well,
it felt like that, but it was ten x. It
was very material. And he said that, he said he's
able to, you know, take subtle energies and turn it
into material forces. So at this point, the engineer in
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me has come alive, and I said, I'm not stopping
out a life. Figure this out, and that's what launched
the journey of very intense research. But you know, a
point is on miracles. So miracles, miss stacy, are in
fact simply a byproduct of growing spirituality in themselves. They're
not that important, right, but people have these powers they
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can they can exhibit. And you know, the one thing
that I remember, which I remind myself every day, that
there are swammy sages, monks, rabbis, you know, flow who
know to whom the universe presents no secrets.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You think about that, How powerful that thought is.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, so guided by all of that, I just had
to finish this journey man, and things just started to
to go. And then ultimately one of the premier Swammies
in India he oversaw the entire book strategy for a
period of ten years.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And so this two ninety six page book.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Is littered with about sixty five illustrations and diagrams and
analysis tables and pictorial story charts and the rest.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And I'm just having so much fun with it. And
then people started to say, look.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
You got something really special going on here, so like,
come on the go write a book and then you
know this, this ex editor in chief of Harper College
shows up and he put it together for me, and
here you are.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Wow. Have you heard anybody mention about a success like
different successful stories that this book has has done for
them or maybe has changed their view online or helped
them in the in the physical world with the way
their growth is and so forth.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yes, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
And my number one, A veteran wrote to me, a
war veteran, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Us, and he said, I'll never forget his words. He says,
the Park.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I'm on page one hundred and ninety three of your book,
and I'm obliged to write to you to tell you
that you have you restarted my faith. And you know,
he said, I you know, I was suffering so much
from the effects of war. And he said it is
the most complete dissertation on spirituality of everything.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I thought that was interesting, he said, dissertation And that's
precisely what it is.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
But uh, an engineer from Avid Labs, he told me,
he said, the Park, this is a double PhD.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
You've got here. You know that you've got but into
fourteen years, you see.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I love it. I love it now. The core message
of life, the spiritual essence that emphasizes hope. Inspiration from
this historical leaders and from innate curiosity propels us towards peace. Now,
how can embrace in this message enhance individual journeys and
contribute to creating a lasting piece in our communities and beyond.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
So the first, the first point to understand. I mean,
there's so much you know behind the book.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
But the core message, man, is that in each one
of us, as I said, you know, the we are
the essence of divinity.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
We are.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
We are so fortunate to be born as humans because
we work by by intuition or informed instinct, whereas animals
work by instinct only you know, they have to run
their cycles. So it is up for each one of
us to understand that your life is so special, you
have such resident divinity within you. People want your life
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is special and you have so much to offer, you know,
and and so come on out right, we want to
hear from you. Learn you know, and as you start
to as you begin to accelerate in your journey, you
will now begin to rise above yourself the eye and
you move into the weed. And there is such joy
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in helping other people and that's what that's.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
What they said. This is what these great leaders have
taught me.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
And that's what make the greatest leaders because they are
totally selfless in their approach. So so there's a hope
for each one of you. You know, come on out,
we want to hear you and another simple messages and
balish our children and reinforce our respected elders because they've
done so much for us. But our youth, you know,
they are our future, and so we should learn to
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help them out.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Oh, one hundred percent. Now, if we had to take
today's conversation, you want to emphasize on some important factors
that we spoke about. What are some things you'd like
to emphasize to the listeners today.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
That you know, my own personal and I'll talk about
my own personal journey.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
So when I when I first started, you know, I
was working working on power plans and you know it
will be tremendous stress.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
You know that that one had to deal with.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
And then I began, you know the journey of research,
intense research and learning, and I started to develop a
system first of all, a holistic system, and then I
you know, I started to get into various levels of
studies where I am personally today? Man is I You know,
from an intellectual perspective, you know there's a tremendous amount
of knowledge, But in terms of the true meditative knowledge
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of the universe, I'm just a journeyman and there's the
pathway that I see now in front of me. So
I try and contain any excesses. I try and contain anger.
I try and stay cheerful all the time. And I'm
beginning actually to uh, you know, to to reach out
and help people. And the first sign of spirituality, they say,
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is you're becoming cheerful. So always keep that inner child
also going in here. But there's the journey that you
begin to find, and as you begin to improve you
naturally you will start to help people. I mean, look
at your example, Mistsistasy, what you have done for millions
around the world.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I mean, I'm way way down in the chart. So
I'm a fan of yours. There have to tell you.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Now your book,
Where can people find your book? And tell us again
the title so people make sure they remember your title.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, it's so.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
First of all, it's on Amazon and it's also on
multiple I saw it on multiple other e platforms. If
you type my name in in uh there's also a
film actor in all film actor in India. But I'm
the good looking one, you know, so I think you'll
be able to pick me out. But the name of
the book is Life the Spiritual Lessons and then the
subtitle is an Engineer's Insights into the Integrated Nature of Divinity.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
So there are five keywords in there.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
There's life, spiritual engineer or energy integrated or interconnected and
divinity or some sort of divine source that's important.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I love that. I love that. And you said we
can find it on Amazon and there are all the
other bookstores. You could just type in your name and
then they can find it.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yes, and its Life to Spiritual Lessons. And people want
to find me. I'm primarily on LinkedIn, you know. I've
also you know, begun to run into some of the
other social platforms, but my mainstay is on LINKEODN.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
You'll find me the easily.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So if people want out to, you know, ask you
a question, or they want to find you, where are
places they can go so they can go on LinkedIn
to find you. Are there any other places? Do you
have a website that you can tell us about.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
No, man, my uh, the best one is my email.
You know, which is which is life?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
The Spiritual Lessons at gmail dot com is the name
of the books at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I love it. I love it. Well, this has been amazing.
I thank you so much for being on the show.
I you know, I hope you'll come back and we
can talk more, because there's so many things you've you've
you've tapped into today that we need in our society
that I think many people have, you know, have forgotten about.
You know that some of the best leaders in the
world even have forgotten about humidit humidity and being able
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to be self you know, selfless, and to be able
to really care about our elders and about our future
generations and to really put emphasis on those things. And
there's so many things we could talk about. And energy
plays such a big role, and you know, know and
learn how to you know, work with you know, being
able to cope with anger in a positive way, and
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to be able to look at life in a totally
different perspective. And and how some of the greatest spiritual
leaders in the world, how we all these leaders we
look up to you know how the one thing they
all have in common, and you know are the qualities
that you had mentioned. And you know that's what makes
a wonderful leader. It's not money, it's not how you
know what you the car you drive or the house
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you live in. It's about being selfless. It's about having humility.
It's about you know, you know, showing love towards others
and being able to you know, to give back to
to the world and not take. And you know, those
are the important things. And you've really stressed that today.
And your book sounds amazing. I haven't gotten to read
it yet, but I can't wait. And and I thank
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you so much for you know, taking the time for
doing this. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
No are you most welcome them. And I, you know
again all the proceeds charity for children.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I have no such interest in any material gains of
any sort of But thank you for having me on
this stay very kind of you.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And thank you to all our friends, big numbers there everyone, Thank.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
You, thank you. Have a great day.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You two men
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Advisor with Stacy Chilaim. Today,
I have a very exciting author on the show today.
He is an amazing person. He has met the Dalai
Lama and he has written a book and explained his
journey along with other things to help us broaden and
expand our mind, our body, our soul, and to help
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us in our overall journey through life. And he his
name is Deepak, and he is just an amazing individual
and I'm really excited to have him on the show today.
Before we begin, I just want to give a quick
shout out to our sponsors today, to iHeartRadio, to Speaker,
and to YouTube for Sharon and sponsoring this episode. Thank
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you so much. And if you like this episode, don't
forget to share and like and subscribe to our channel.
Thank you so much. Now, it is such an honor Deepak,
to have you on the show today. For people who
don't know you, can you share a little about yourself
and what you do?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes. First of all, the Stacey, thank you for having
me on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Big numbers day to you, and a big, big big
numbers date to all our friends out there. So a
little bit about myself. I'm originally from India, but I'm
very British trained. I did my electrical engineering MBA there.
In fact, I lived in the UK for ten years
and I started my work with a multinational company before
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transferring to the US in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I then went on to.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Manage a series of power initiatives at multiple points of
the globe, working with some very dynamic cross functional teams
in over thirty countries.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So yeah, it was very.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Engaging work, very you know, very very interesting people, lots
of of dynamic travel. Now, somewhere along the way, I
came to write a book about an engineer's analysis on divinity.
And so this book is called Life the Spiritual Lessons,
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and it is specifically designed for the tier one global
professional to want to strive to be the absolute best
at what they can be, how they can become a
spiritual billionaire on a daily basis, and how to win
against all odds in the face of increased work pressures
in the global workplace. Now, this journey took me some
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fourteen years of research, touching ultimately thirty eight countries. Actually
sat down and countered it. I had to, you know,
it was it was such an drolling journey and it
Now what what sparked the book? This was, you know,
that's the obvious question, because you know, you're you're running
around building power plants. And they would three events within
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a six month period commencing end of two thousand and eight.
So the first one was that I picked up a
key scripture on Hinduism. And this was given the need
for a timely holistic stress management system because when you're
working with you know, interactive teams the world over, your
life begins to run away from you, like miss you know,
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to give you scale, Miss Stacuo, in eighty hours a
week was just normal in some cases, you know, including
weekend works, it was very exhausting. So I picked up
the scripture and being the classical engineer, in fact, it
took me five years to read it.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It was a twelve hundred page book and I.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Read less than a page a day, you know, with
a lot of you know, derivative studies on the on
the side.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Now, the next event was this was just four months later.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I'm on a flight to Tokyo and lo and behold
who comes and sits across the r from me?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Is this holiness? The Dalai Lama.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Tibet, and I said, wait a minute, this is so cool.
So I had the perfect view of him for eleven hours.
Now what happened was just about an hour before we
landed in Tokyo. He kind of encouraged me over and
I got his blessings and I'm I'm down on my
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knees and I'm telling you, I said, sir.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I know this is no coincidence, you.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Know, because I started, you know, on a very uh
the scriptural journey, and you know, he smiled cheerfully at me,
the beautiful moonface of his.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And I then went on to meet him the next,
you know, a second time, ten years later.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But anyway, I came out of that and that was
the material shift. And then just a couple of months
later this time, I'm now in Istanbul in Turkey.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I've gone to visit a power plant site.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I ran into a US Vietnam veteran US Marine
Corps and Miss Stacy. I immediately I knew there was
something about this guy. And as I began to probe him,
you know, because I you know, I'm the eternal optimist,
and you know, the eternal you.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Know, very inquisitive. So as I began to probe him.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I began to realize that he was exhibiting some powers
that one would typically associate with our traditional holy men
and women in the world.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Over, but it was it was very tangible.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
In nature, and that, you know, sparked the engineer in
me and I said, wait a minute. So when I
sat back and I looked at these three events, I
had this intuition that these three events were somehow interconnected
and the term divinity was emanating out of each one
of the three incidents, you know, be it the the
the subtle area of the dial lama or the material
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energies that this Vietnam veteran was was, you know, was
showing and it was experiential in nature, you know, the
term energy was in there. And at that point I said,
this demands some investigation. I said, I'm not going to
stop until I sort this out. And that and that
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sparked my journey of research or fourteen years, touching thirty
eight countries, precisely on how the substratum of energy interconnects
all aspects of our existence under the corporate auspices of divinity.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So subtle in material energies, you.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Know, for example, nature, people places, culture, science, and spirituality.
I ended up even researching fifteen religions that's you know,
embedded as part of this within this to.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Ninety six page book.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And it basically just you know, the if there were
any cuffs, they came off.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You know, now now the gloves were off.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And I was just going down, you know, charging down
the path of research. And I tell you, miss Stacy,
when you are sincere in new efforts and you do
something out of purity, it is wonderful.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Just how many.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
People showed up to help. I mean, people came out
of the woodword. I estimated that they were probably north
of one hundred people that showed up, including some leaders
who have materially influenced the past century. A case in
point Nuremberg prosecutor UH Benjamin Farends.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
He was the last surviving.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Prosecutor, and he was telling me how when he went
into the concentration camps, how they were being liberated, how
he tried the people. And then people like that, you know,
like Colonel James Harvey of the Tuskegee Airman.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So he's become.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
A friend of mine, you know, just bought an honor
to Saip, you know, with a man like that. And
then you know varied leaders, you know, like doctor stry
Muskrave from NASA. I mean he uh, he was on
the on the mission to fix the Hubble telescope.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
So he sent me blurbs for the book. And then
you know various leaders.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
From UH and including rabbis, monks, you know, people just
began to show.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Every time I needed the help, someone showed up.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So ultimately the book and once again I really wasn't
planning to write the book, you know, write a book.
It was just that I received so much encouragement from
my colleagues and general electric that they said, hey, the fact,
let's you know, start putting together.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So during the COVID period is where I couldn't travel.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And at that point this ex editor in chief of
Harpercollumns shows up and he does the book for me
on a freelance basis. And as I was mentioning, Miss Stacy,
I mean talk about professionalism, that is best. It excites
your professional curiosity. I mean he taught me how to.
He actually taught me that from you know, to grow
skill sets, from working power plans to being able to
be able to write a book. So the book itself
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miss Stacy is constitutes five parts in its journey of
examining how and first of all, it offers a macro
level viewpoint and then it delves into various analyses. So
it's in five parts. The first part is what I
call the six trigger Points, which is basically this took
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seven years of testing and seven years to put together,
and seven years of testing.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I've been testing it every morning. I ground myself daily.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It's twenty five points segregated into six action oriented quadrants
of the mind. And it's like the subliminal box of
tools that I use daily as you know, as you
you begin to rewire the circuitry in your brain on
how to, on how to you know, overcome your weaknesses
and head into the path of purity. The next two
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sections are primarily theosophical. It's you know it examines and
while the book has fifteen religions, there are there's a
structural analysis on the world's five major religions and UH
and many people may think this is a comparison, but
it is. And what I did was I developed sixteen
cardinal pillars of what supports the iterative science and the
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vision behind each of these religions and then I started
to fill them out. Now, initially I thought, oh, as
an engineer, let me do a three page white paper
and go over there. But as I began to develop,
I said, wait a minute, this is this is really
this is heavy stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Now I'll tell you a very funny story.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I was.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I was struggling with Buddhism and Juddhism and I had
to travel to Santiago, Chile, and that that morning I said,
you know, when I come back into UH, I'm going
to go reach out into the community and you know,
get a rabbi and a mark. And guess what, Miss Stacy,
I changed planes at DC. Rabbi came and sat next
to me, and a monk comes and sits behind me.
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And I ended up working four years with each one
of them to develop, you know, these structural tables. So
each time, you know, so I worked with the swamily,
with the minister and Eat and and a lot of
other holistic and spiritual experts you know, came in and
it took four years just to develop that section.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Then the next.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Section is how we now have a complete energy model
in place? And what I did this was this was
I think possibly the most fun part of the journey
is that I picked some boundary conditions and said, let's
see how this model comes together, but with the least
incursion into belief and and and so that began, and
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it was really go out and that deals with the
involution and the evolution of the universe. But ultimately it
maps out the journey of the confused soul into turning
himself into a warrior, then a warrior into a warrior mark,
then into a mark, and then back up through the channels,
through multiple techniques to merge back to the divine source.
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And that was and I came pretty close. It was
there was only you know, a few bridges that I
had to cross over and said, now you know this
this there has to be a god up there.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And then the last section was it's a spiritual travelogue.
So what that means is that this engine and that's myself.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
He describes, you know, as pictorial stories twenty two specific
experiences that he did when as he was translating philosophical
principles into spiritual reality. So just a few examples, you know,
ranging from the cacao farms in Ecuador where you know,
you see chocolate at the pod level and you see
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how people entire families are leading living close to nature,
and up to uh the Otakama Desert where they were
doing the testing for the Mars rover emissions. And then
on to the great plains of Tornado Eye because I
wanted to see how energy works. And then into very
challenging locations like the concentration camps of World War two,
so I visited Auschwitz, Berkenal Uh, you know Bach how
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they're very, very difficult, and then finally even up into
the Kuchi Tunnels of Vietnam.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So ultimately this book came you.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Know, those are the five parts of the book, and
it offers a series of philosophical, spiritual, religious technical analysis
and it's you know, it's been assimilated thanks.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
To the you know, acadgory of experts who came together.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Wow, that's amazing. Now this book dives deep into the
the illiterate science behind the five major religions and modern
leadership philosophies rooted in ancient scriptures. How does these analysis
enhance our understanding of diverse spiritual teachings and inspire leadership practice.
This is across various professions.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
So that's a great question, sim states, So as I
was working my way through like you know, for example,
in Hinduism, there's the in the Githa, you know, they
talk about the mahabarat, which is the good between you know,
of five good versus you know, enemies. But really it
talks about the moral struggles that we have within ourselves.
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And so there are as you know, it's because each
person there are three we have three fundamental energies, right,
which is purity.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
We have a bank or passion, and then we have dullness.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And the question is at any given moment in time,
where is your bank or passion point? Is it towards
purity or is it towards dumness. See try going for
a full day without getting angry even for a second.
Just see how difficult that. And that's what I do
with the you know, with the holistic table. I checked
myself off. So if I yelled at a driver you know,
you know, down the road, I said, no, no, I
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shouldn't have done that. So what happened was that I
examined leadership in myriad industries, you know, ranging from defense
into you know, obviously corporate industry, and all the way
even into the entertainment world. I met some of the
top liners you know, you know number one and number
number two, and I would examine how energy, divinity and
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leadership were all working together in there and from now
now there is so many articles on leadership, but I
was able to delve down into what some of the
key elements of what separate separates leaders from the greatest
leaders you know, and this is this is when you
sit with a doctor story Muskrat, where you're talking to
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Benjamin for far ends, or you're talking to the President of India,
and you know, these were just some of the people
that I happened to meet. You began to understand what
made them who they are and what you know, why
they are considered so great. And there were three key
points that I found. And again this is all coming
down from scriptures. See it in Christianity, you see it
in Buddhism, you see it in Islam, you see it
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in Judaism, and you know every religion does that. But
there are three key elements that I found. One is humor,
always keep that inner trial going in you. The second
is humility, and the third, which I rate above all,
is an utter sense of selflessness for a larger cost.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So I'll give you one example. So I spoke.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I mentioned I spoke with Benjamin Friends. You know, he
was the last surviving prosecutor then Urremberg trials. And I
asked him, I said, sir, can you give me an
example of what you know? How what do you think
of material world? And you know what he said, Miss Tercy.
He said, oh, I've donated all my savings. Now think,
let's think for a minute. I don't have that kind
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of courage.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But yeah, look at.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
The boundaries of fear. This man crusted to be able
to do that. The other thing he told me was
he said, I sit with my children every single day
and I I asked them every single day, tell me
what you did for humanity.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Now, these are the lessons that you're getting from from leaders.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
And I was starting to make all the links back
into the multiple scriptures as I was going along.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yes, yeah, My question is, you know, we have so
much stigmatism in our society about one religion versus other religion.
And you know, one is more accurate, one is more better.
And you know, you hear people get into it because
of the different religions and and they have, you know,
their own qualms. Did you find from from working and
(16:34):
interview in so many different religious leaders, do you find
that there is more similarity than difference? Because I find
when when I study different religions, we're really all the same.
There might be some little differences here and there, but
when you look at it all as a whole, each
religion is pretty much similar to the other religion. It's
just some things are a little bit different, but it
(16:57):
pretty much it all constitutes the same purpose.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes, that's an excellent question. So if you look at it.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
So some some of the religions they stem from a
single god, Okay they say there are no Some stem
from multiple deity gods and deity is cheer one, Chier two,
and Chier three. Some don't even believe in a god.
They believe in a system of energy, like like Buddhism.
Primarily it says it comes from a system. When they
asked the Buddha about God, he was apparently apparently he
(17:26):
was silent. But the point man that I found, and
but I found a lot more commonalities because it's all
about excellence. It's all about you know, personal transcendence. And
the one thing that I saw on all my travels
is that people the world over notwithstanding their beliefs, each
one is trying to cope with the problems that they
(17:47):
have and they that they can you know, have to
take on on a daily basis to support their families
and universally, Man, what I found is that every religion
acknowledges that this you know, so this earth is not
our permanent home, That there is suffering, that there is
suffering and bondage here.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So the pats are on through multiple techniques to be
able to lead lives of joy and avoid of fear.
That's what the biggest takeaway I you know, through sure experientials.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I agree with you. I totally think that we are
here for a purpose. We are here to learn, We
are here to enhance, you know, through the good and
through the bad, and that I believe, you know, there
is something waiting afterwards. Also, you know, we are here
to as a journey and we are here to learn.
And no matter what religion you are, no matter you
(18:39):
know what, you know, what you believe in, you know
there we all constitute similarities. We're all human, we all
have emotions, we all have you know, you know, we
all we all react and do things very similar. We
just have some differences in certain areas. But when it
comes to religion, if you look at all the different religions,
(18:59):
the purpose is are very similar. Like you said, like
Budenism may have energy, but still like when you look
at the purpose of Budanism and you look at what
it constitutes, it's very similar to you know, it's all
about love, peace, gratitude, giving, kindness, humility, it's all And
if you base a lot of religions, it's all based
(19:19):
on those those aspects as well.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And yes, yes, one of the points them I'd like
to bring out is that you see, whether you believe
in a God or you don't, the creation laws have
tremendous divinity with them and the essence of that divinity
is lies at the core of every human being.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And it is our duty.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And everybody is trying in their own unique ways to
try and improve their lives, and it is absolutely our
duty to do so, you know, and whatever the techniques
may be, right and you're going to learn. And you know,
as they say, every every saint has a has a
pastor every sinner the future. So we're all in this,
you know, this journey, you know, coming along, and of
(20:05):
course that also there are other topics like what they
call a relative you know, creation, sustenance, and dissolution, and
you know.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
The the the the overall combination of good, bad and evil,
you know in the in upper level. So it's a
very complex, uh you know story.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
But but these are the core principles that everyone goes from.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I love that now, you know. Life The Spiritual Essence
is described as an encyclopedia resource for professionals, offering avenues
for exploit, exploration, and growth. How can readers leverage the
insights and the mythologies presented in this book to enhance
their personal and professional lives?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So as mentioned man, you know, first of all, it's
an action oriented book right there is you know, it's
all about it.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
You know this is this just comes straight from you know,
working in industry and you know you have to come
up with timely solutions. So the first thing you want
to do is that, and that's why I created the
first which is pretty universal, is the holistic, strategic, energetic chart.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So very simple example.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I'll give you There are six main points in there,
and then I'll talk a little bit about the others.
So the first, the first major box is all about purity, passion,
and dullness. So the question is that I mentioned, how
do you always take you know, pointed towards purity at any.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Given point in time. The second box is all about
work into worship.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
You know, watch Roger Federer in action, right, watchman, look
at that intense concentration. That is divinity at work. May
not be religion, but it is divinity. It is pure spirituality.
How do you face your fears? The third one is
about dynamic quietude or an inner silence. How do you
always maintain an inner silence? So what that means is
(21:53):
you take your you take your all your talents, and
you quiet and down you you out all the fluff
to be able to operate in the most efficient manner.
The fourth one is to understand the interconnected nature of
the universe.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And even a simple thought like that, Miss Stacey.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
You see when you say that you know a competitor
of yours at work is, in fact, at some level
within this universe connected to you, integrally connected to you.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
You begin to cheer for that person. You you now
preclude jealousy.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You see how powerful that thought is, And then you know,
as you start to cleanse yourself out, you now start
to operate out of the higher echelons. You know where
you are now a very spiritual, cheerful, dynamic force to
you know, to be reckoned with. And at the same
time you're beginning to lose all your progressive you know,
(22:47):
you feel that your your all your fears. You begin
to transcend into new heights. So that's the first mental
house cleaning. You know that what everybody.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Should engage in.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Then come all the options, right, be it philosophical, whether
it's religious, whether it's spiritual, whether you believe in energy.
But it's all about taking and experiencing for yourself. And
slowly but surely you begin to understand how you operate.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
As a person.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Are you, for example, very analytical in nature or are
you very energetic in nature?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Or are you a combination of both?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Accordingly, that will help you, first of all, to balance
your life on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Two, it helps you to understand that which which skills
you know?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Should I pick and run with and always pick one
or two skills?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
No more? You know, because I admit so many I admit.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
So many peoples Stacy who are so multi talented, but
they never devote enough time to any given one. And
as a consequence, they have not achieved their goals. So
you have to be you'll be very single minded in
the manner in which that you, uh, you know, that
you progress, but while keep maintaining absolute equanimity and integrity
and love for other people. So ultimately it begins to
(23:59):
the Not only does it explain how energy ultimately connects
us all right, at multiple levels of existence, going from
the material into the subtle, into the subtler and then
up into the cause of planes, where you're now getting
close to the original, you know, to the source of creation,
but it also maps out, maps out pathways for you
(24:20):
to follow. And the one thing, the one thing with
sac I stayed very honest. I tried my absolute best
not to be judgmental. So I laid things out, you know.
I suggested an energy model, you know, which which is
pretty pretty conclusive, was actually enthralling exercise to do it,
I mean, trust as engineers.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know. But then you know, it was all about
proving it, you know. And I had some remarkable.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Experiences along the way, you know, as I was, as
I was meeting people, and I must tell you this,
in my eleventh yearter of research, I suddenly saw like
a big crystal ball.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Over my head.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
It was like a fear of miss Stacy, and it
was my Eureka moment, and I could see all the
links like floating around like calculus in there, and it
was just remarkable. And then and then that vision passed,
and at that point I said, I think I'm close
to now assimilating the dog to a similate the book.
So it offers you a whole range of options, you know,
for you to analyze and then pick your pathway.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Sorry for the long winded thing, but I get so
passionate about honest.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
You mentioned that when you wrote this book, you weren't
even beforehand, you weren't even anticipating on writing a book.
You start out with notes, and so can you tell
us a little about that. What inspired you to to
take these thoughts in these notes and to create such
a beautiful book like this.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So again the Stacy, it was the three events, you know,
which were very experiential. So I'll you know, I'll tell
you the one that actually woke me up. Yeah, when
I when I met the Vietnam I mean meeting meeting
the Da laa Is. It's just incredible, you know, you
can sense that impossible aura of peace and pure love,
(26:06):
and it put meates through the air.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
It is very very physical almost, you.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Know, and if you are observant, you can actually, you know,
you can sense you can almost see it. But what
happened was when I was with the Vietnam veteran. He
must have seen something, but he started to tell me.
He says, look the packer. He says, you're going to
do some pretty cool things. And I'm like, what is
he talking about? And you know, we were sitting at
a table and he was about six feet away from me,
and he said, the.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Pac put up your hands, and so I put up
my hands like this.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
He put up his hands at a distance and he
just went like this, and I felt this.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Last hit me. It was it was like a It
almost felt like somebody.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
The best way to say is that when we were kids,
we would go to the doctor's office and you know,
they would take a little hammer and they tap your knee. Well,
it felt like that, but it was ten x. It
was very material. And he said that, he said he's
able to, you know, take subtle energies and turn it
into material forces. So at this point, the engineer in
(27:06):
me has come alive, and I said, I'm not stopping
out a life. Figure this out, and that's what launched
the journey of very intense research. But you know, a
point is on miracles. So miracles, miss stacy, are in
fact simply a byproduct of growing spirituality in themselves. They're
not that important, right, but people have these powers they
(27:27):
can they can exhibit. And you know, the one thing
that I remember, which I remind myself every day, that
there are swammy sages, monks, rabbis, you know, flow who
know to whom the universe presents no secrets.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You think about that, How powerful that thought is.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, so guided by all of that, I just had
to finish this journey man, and things just started to
to go. And then ultimately one of the premier Swammies
in India he oversaw the entire book strategy for a
period of ten years.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And so this two ninety six page book.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Is littered with about sixty five illustrations and diagrams and
analysis tables and pictorial story charts and the rest.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And I'm just having so much fun with it. And
then people started to say, look.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
You got something really special going on here, so like,
come on the go write a book and then you
know this, this ex editor in chief of Harper College
shows up and he put it together for me, and
here you are.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Wow. Have you heard anybody mention about a success like
different successful stories that this book has has done for
them or maybe has changed their view online or helped
them in the in the physical world with the way
their growth is and so forth.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yes, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
And my number one, A veteran wrote to me, a
war veteran, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Us, and he said, I'll never forget his words. He says,
the Park.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I'm on page one hundred and ninety three of your book,
and I'm obliged to write to you to tell you
that you have you restarted my faith. And you know,
he said, I you know, I was suffering so much
from the effects of war. And he said it is
the most complete dissertation on spirituality of everything.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I thought that was interesting, he said, dissertation And that's
precisely what it is.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
But uh, an engineer from Avid Labs, he told me,
he said, the Park, this is a double PhD.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
You've got here. You know that you've got but into
fourteen years, you see.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I love it. I love it now. The core message
of life, the spiritual essence that emphasizes hope. Inspiration from
this historical leaders and from innate curiosity propels us towards peace. Now,
how can embrace in this message enhance individual journeys and
contribute to creating a lasting piece in our communities and beyond.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
So the first, the first point to understand. I mean,
there's so much you know behind the book.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
But the core message, man, is that in each one
of us, as I said, you know, the we are
the essence of divinity.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
We are.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
We are so fortunate to be born as humans because
we work by by intuition or informed instinct, whereas animals
work by instinct only you know, they have to run
their cycles. So it is up for each one of
us to understand that your life is so special, you
have such resident divinity within you. People want your life
(30:23):
is special and you have so much to offer, you know,
and and so come on out right, we want to
hear from you. Learn you know, and as you start
to as you begin to accelerate in your journey, you
will now begin to rise above yourself the eye and
you move into the weed. And there is such joy
(30:46):
in helping other people and that's what that's.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
What they said. This is what these great leaders have
taught me.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
And that's what make the greatest leaders because they are
totally selfless in their approach. So so there's a hope
for each one of you. You know, come on out,
we want to hear you and another simple messages and
balish our children and reinforce our respected elders because they've
done so much for us. But our youth, you know,
they are our future, and so we should learn to
(31:14):
help them out.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Oh, one hundred percent. Now, if we had to take
today's conversation, you want to emphasize on some important factors
that we spoke about. What are some things you'd like
to emphasize to the listeners today.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
That you know, my own personal and I'll talk about
my own personal journey.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
So when I when I first started, you know, I
was working working on power plans and you know it
will be tremendous stress.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
You know that that one had to deal with.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
And then I began, you know the journey of research,
intense research and learning, and I started to develop a
system first of all, a holistic system, and then I
you know, I started to get into various levels of
studies where I am personally today? Man is I You know,
from an intellectual perspective, you know there's a tremendous amount
of knowledge, But in terms of the true meditative knowledge
(32:08):
of the universe, I'm just a journeyman and there's the
pathway that I see now in front of me. So
I try and contain any excesses. I try and contain anger.
I try and stay cheerful all the time. And I'm
beginning actually to uh, you know, to to reach out
and help people. And the first sign of spirituality, they say,
(32:28):
is you're becoming cheerful. So always keep that inner child
also going in here. But there's the journey that you
begin to find, and as you begin to improve you
naturally you will start to help people. I mean, look
at your example, Mistsistasy, what you have done for millions
around the world.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I mean, I'm way way down in the chart. So
I'm a fan of yours. There have to tell you.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Now your book,
Where can people find your book? And tell us again
the title so people make sure they remember your title.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, it's so.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
First of all, it's on Amazon and it's also on
multiple I saw it on multiple other e platforms. If
you type my name in in uh there's also a
film actor in all film actor in India. But I'm
the good looking one, you know, so I think you'll
be able to pick me out. But the name of
the book is Life the Spiritual Lessons and then the
subtitle is an Engineer's Insights into the Integrated Nature of Divinity.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
So there are five keywords in there.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
There's life, spiritual engineer or energy integrated or interconnected and
divinity or some sort of divine source that's important.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I love that. I love that. And you said we
can find it on Amazon and there are all the
other bookstores. You could just type in your name and
then they can find it.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yes, and its Life to Spiritual Lessons. And people want
to find me. I'm primarily on LinkedIn, you know. I've
also you know, begun to run into some of the
other social platforms, but my mainstay is on LINKEODN.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
You'll find me the easily.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So if people want out to, you know, ask you
a question, or they want to find you, where are
places they can go so they can go on LinkedIn
to find you. Are there any other places? Do you
have a website that you can tell us about.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
No, man, my uh, the best one is my email.
You know, which is which is life?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
The Spiritual Lessons at gmail dot com is the name
of the books at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I love it. I love it. Well, this has been amazing.
I thank you so much for being on the show.
I you know, I hope you'll come back and we
can talk more, because there's so many things you've you've
you've tapped into today that we need in our society
that I think many people have, you know, have forgotten about.
You know that some of the best leaders in the
world even have forgotten about humidit humidity and being able
(34:45):
to be self you know, selfless, and to be able
to really care about our elders and about our future
generations and to really put emphasis on those things. And
there's so many things we could talk about. And energy
plays such a big role, and you know, know and
learn how to you know, work with you know, being
able to cope with anger in a positive way, and
(35:07):
to be able to look at life in a totally
different perspective. And and how some of the greatest spiritual
leaders in the world, how we all these leaders we
look up to you know how the one thing they
all have in common, and you know are the qualities
that you had mentioned. And you know that's what makes
a wonderful leader. It's not money, it's not how you
know what you the car you drive or the house
(35:29):
you live in. It's about being selfless. It's about having humility.
It's about you know, you know, showing love towards others
and being able to you know, to give back to
to the world and not take. And you know, those
are the important things. And you've really stressed that today.
And your book sounds amazing. I haven't gotten to read
it yet, but I can't wait. And and I thank
(35:51):
you so much for you know, taking the time for
doing this. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
No are you most welcome them. And I, you know
again all the proceeds charity for children.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I have no such interest in any material gains of
any sort of But thank you for having me on
this stay very kind of you.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And thank you to all our friends, big numbers there everyone, Thank.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
You, thank you. Have a great day.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You two men
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