November 24, 2025 • 12 mins
David Grusch confirms non-human biological remains, recovered craft, and photographs exist in Fox News interview with Bret Baier, revealing his security clearance was reinstated through Congressman Eric Burlison's amendment allowing him to now serve as Special Advisor to the House Task Force for Declassification of Federal Secrets where he discusses UAP crash retrieval programs, Russia and China adversarial programs, interdimensional theories, whistleblower threats, and why the Trump administration including JD Vance and Tulsi Gabbard are pushing for UFO disclosure.
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00:00 - Grusch Confirms Everything
00:43 - What Most People Missed
02:24 - The Clearance Amendment
03:26 - Burlison Explains The Hire
04:37 - The Biologics Question
05:49 - Where Do They Come From
06:36 - Dylan Borland Connection
07:50 - The Smear Campaign
10:07 - Is Disclosure Coming
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00:00 - Grusch Confirms Everything
00:43 - What Most People Missed
02:24 - The Clearance Amendment
03:26 - Burlison Explains The Hire
04:37 - The Biologics Question
05:49 - Where Do They Come From
06:36 - Dylan Borland Connection
07:50 - The Smear Campaign
10:07 - Is Disclosure Coming
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
David Grush just went on National news and confirmed everything.
Their covered craft, the non human biological remains, the photographs,
and now he's saying that he saw it all with
his own eyes. And we're connecting a lot of dots
that people seem to be missing. As always, I'm here
to report the information without bias, and you can decide
what to believe. You can find the sources in my
(00:21):
detailed articles at ufonews dot com, along with in the
description box below.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hey, you follow yours. I'm Christina Gomez, and welcome to
this episode of UFO News Updates.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You believe that we have encountered alien beings and that
they've come to Earth, and that we know about it
as a US government.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
That seems to be a case I don't like to
characterize necessarily where they came from. There are definitely some
kind of non human sentience, but it is true, believe
it or not. We've recovered the vehicles and we actually
have physical proof, and I was actually partially cleared into
some of those activities. It was beyond the oral testimony
provided to me. I actually had martial access to the
(01:01):
data and actually read the intelligence reports resulting from those programs.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
With your own eyes were shocked.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes, did you catch that? He said? It was beyond
oral testimony.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
But to understand why that statement is significant, we need
to know what has changed since twenty twenty three. On
July sixth, twenty twenty three, David Grush testified before the
House Oversight Committee, and he told lawmakers he has been
informed of a multi decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse
engineering program. He said he interviewed over forty witnesses across
(01:34):
four years, and he claimed the government has recovered in
non human biologics from crash sites. But here is what
most people missed. When MPR reported on that testimony, they
noted that Grush said he had not personally seen any
vehicles or alien bodies. His opinions were based on the
accounts of witnesses he had interviewed, and his testimony was
(01:56):
based on information that had been given by others. And
there was another problem. When lawmakers tried to bring Grush
into a skift to discuss classified details, they were told
he did not currently have the security clearance to do so.
His clearance had lapsed when he left government service. So
even though he had made extraordinary claims under oath, Congress
(02:16):
could not legally discuss the evidence with him. Then Congressman
Eric Berlasson from Missouri was not willing to let it
end there. On November eighth, twenty twenty three, Berlason introduced
what became known as the David Grush Clearance Amendment. It
was added to the Financial Service Appropriation Bill HR four
sixty sixty four and passed by the voice vote in
(02:37):
the House. The amendment encouraged the Office of Personal Management
to renew Grush's security clearance. Take a listen to this.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I rise the support of this amendment, which would increase,
slash decrease funding, to express that the Office of Personnel
Management should renew the security clearance of David Grush. And unfortunately,
he's unable to provide us with any supporting vavidence to
back up his claims because his security clearance has lapsed. Now,
my understanding is that mister Grush did go through the
(03:07):
proper channels here by turning overclassified information to the IC
Inspector General, and he ultimately filed a complaint to the
ICY Inspector General alleging that the information that he presented
to the IC has been illegally withheld from Congress gentlemen
yields questions on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Missouri.
Those in favors AI those pos know independent the Chair
(03:29):
of the Eyes have it.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The amendment is agreed to.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
By November of twenty twenty three, the reinstatement process was
completed and Grush had his clearances back. In April of
twenty twenty five, Burlison confirmed to ask a poll that
Grush had gotten his top secret clearance reinstated, and by
March of twenty twenty five, Burlison announced that Grush would
be joining his staff as a special advisor to the
House Task Force for the Declassification of Federal secrets.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That's a big.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Deal, congresson you made some headlines with the hire of
David Grush.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Why'd you do it? Why'd you feel the need to
do it?
Speaker 7 (04:04):
I think that just it's frustrating to me that we
can't continue to just not really get any further. And
so one of the things that was highlighted to me
really is that are obvious to me is that we
don't have somebody that's an expert in this field helping
us navigate the intelligence community navigate these because the thing is,
(04:25):
you don't know which question to ask, right, and so
how do you even determine what are you where to
go if you don't even have a first first clue.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Let me take you back to that July twenty twenty
three hearing for a moment when Grush first used the
phrase non human biologics, it became the most quoted line
from the entire testimony. But in that moment he was
careful to clarify. He said that was the assessment of
people with direct knowledge on the program, people who are
(04:54):
still currently on the program, and he was reporting what
others had told him in the Fox New Who interview.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Behar pressed him on whether that has changed.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And when you mentioned in that testimony of recovering the
pilots or remains non human, that's something that you saw
as far as the intelligence with your eyes.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yes, And it is a very uncomfortable even for me
now as somebody who's seen and experienced it, even talking
about it, because it's so outside a normal person's worldview
to understand that there is this biological sentience set have
piloted these crafts that don't necessarily look one hundred percent
(05:34):
like you. And I or their pictures where there there were, Yes,
they were.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Look at his demeanor when he discusses this. He says
it's uncomfortable even for him. And this is someone who
has spent over a decade in military intelligence, someone who
has seen classified information that most people will never know exists,
and even he finds this difficult to process. Beyer then
asked the natural follow up question, are there photographs? Grush
(06:01):
confirmed that photographs of non human beings recovered from these
craft exist and he's seen them. Now, there's so much
more to this interview and more dots that we need
to connect, including what he said about where these beings
come from.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
One of the most thoughtful parts of this interview was
when Beyer asked about where these beings actually come from,
and this is where Grush's answer differs from what other
officials have been saying. Back in August, Congresswoman Anna Paulina
Luna appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast, and Luna leads
the same task force on the declassification of federal secrets
(06:38):
that Grush now advises. She's very confident that these things
exist and that they are inter dimensionals, but Grush takes
a more measured position.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
When I said from another planet or from outer space,
she said not, we don't know where they're from. Is
an interdimensional what are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I've talked to a lot of ill called graybeards on
the program that is a subject of hot debate on origin. I've,
as a guy trained in physics formally as well in
my background, I leave an open mind on what the
origin is. Certainly there is the extra terrestrial hypothesis, and
they could be coming from elsewhere off Earth, but I
(07:17):
don't usually go there because I did not see that data,
and I'm not conversant in the high confidence theories that
the US government has.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That was a really interesting statement that Grush made, and
he's hesitant to even say it's et. You know who
else said something similar, Dylan Porland. Here's the short clip
on what he mentioned on Weaponized back in October.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I think what we are dealing with is very, very
very old. I think old humans have wrote in those
down in religious stories. I think that it's quite clear
that we have been influenced by something else. I think
aarrow has been telling the American public the truth. And
you have said this on weaponize on my behalf, which
is Errow's statement there is no scientific evidence of extraterrestrials
(07:59):
is one hundred percent technically true. You have to have
a control to have scientific proof, and extraterrestrial is a
very exact statement and word with an exact definition, an
entity of another planet. These things, whatever they are, are
probably what are referred to as gods or demons or
(08:22):
angels or gin or insert whatever cultural or religious perspective
you have. There are probably also extraterrestrials. It's it's not
a one size fits all.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Grush also confirmed that Russia and China have their own programs.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
He stated he was able.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
To view intelligence discussing adversarial programs, So whatever this phenomenon is,
multiple world powers are all aware of it. They are
asked about the cover up and whether people have been
threatened for trying to come forward. Grush got pretty personal here.
He confirmed that he was physically threatened, and before he
even filed his Intelligence Community Inspector General report, he said
(09:05):
he had to seek legal protection because he feared for
both his career and his personal safety, and the attacks
on his credibility continued after his twenty twenty three testimony.
Just ninety six hours after he testified before Congress, journalist
Ken and Klippenstein of The Intercept published details from Grush's past,
including police records related to mental health struggles he experienced.
(09:28):
After returning from Afghanistan, Grush filed a two point five
million dollar privacy lawsuit against the Louding County Sheriff's Office,
alleging they unlawfully released confidential records.
Speaker 8 (09:40):
Now it seems that Grush is saying the government leaked
his personal medical information to smear him discredit his claims
that he made against them.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
His legal team argued that timing was not a coincidence,
and the case was dismissed in August at twenty twenty five,
no appeal has been filed. All of that, Grush kept
going and when asked about the current Trump administration, his
tone changed. He stated that members of the Trump administration
are very well aware of this reality.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Vice President J. D.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Vance has spoken about his interest in investigating the topic.
Intelligence Director Toolsey Gabbert has also stated she has many
questions about this as well.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Given his current role advising.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Congress on declassification, Grush is in a position to know
about what these things are Do you believe full disclosure.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Is finally coming.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I'm Christina Gomez and that is it for today. I
will see you again tomorrow at ten am PST for
another UFO News update. Be safe and remember keep your
eyes on the skies.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
If you enjoy today's show, hate that like button?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And if you're not subscribed, what are you waiting for?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Its notification?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Bell As I do daily leto news and updates, thrash away.
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David Grush just went on National news and confirmed everything.
Their covered craft, the non human biological remains, the photographs,
and now he's saying that he saw it all with
his own eyes. And we're connecting a lot of dots
that people seem to be missing. As always, I'm here
to report the information without bias, and you can decide
what to believe. You can find the sources in my
(00:21):
detailed articles at ufonews dot com, along with in the
description box below.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hey, you follow yours. I'm Christina Gomez, and welcome to
this episode of UFO News Updates.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You believe that we have encountered alien beings and that
they've come to Earth, and that we know about it
as a US government.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
That seems to be a case I don't like to
characterize necessarily where they came from. There are definitely some
kind of non human sentience, but it is true, believe
it or not. We've recovered the vehicles and we actually
have physical proof, and I was actually partially cleared into
some of those activities. It was beyond the oral testimony
provided to me. I actually had martial access to the
(01:01):
data and actually read the intelligence reports resulting from those programs.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
With your own eyes were shocked.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes, did you catch that? He said? It was beyond
oral testimony.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
But to understand why that statement is significant, we need
to know what has changed since twenty twenty three. On
July sixth, twenty twenty three, David Grush testified before the
House Oversight Committee, and he told lawmakers he has been
informed of a multi decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse
engineering program. He said he interviewed over forty witnesses across
(01:34):
four years, and he claimed the government has recovered in
non human biologics from crash sites. But here is what
most people missed. When MPR reported on that testimony, they
noted that Grush said he had not personally seen any
vehicles or alien bodies. His opinions were based on the
accounts of witnesses he had interviewed, and his testimony was
(01:56):
based on information that had been given by others. And
there was another problem. When lawmakers tried to bring Grush
into a skift to discuss classified details, they were told
he did not currently have the security clearance to do so.
His clearance had lapsed when he left government service. So
even though he had made extraordinary claims under oath, Congress
(02:16):
could not legally discuss the evidence with him. Then Congressman
Eric Berlasson from Missouri was not willing to let it
end there. On November eighth, twenty twenty three, Berlason introduced
what became known as the David Grush Clearance Amendment. It
was added to the Financial Service Appropriation Bill HR four
sixty sixty four and passed by the voice vote in
(02:37):
the House. The amendment encouraged the Office of Personal Management
to renew Grush's security clearance. Take a listen to this.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I rise the support of this amendment, which would increase,
slash decrease funding, to express that the Office of Personnel
Management should renew the security clearance of David Grush. And unfortunately,
he's unable to provide us with any supporting vavidence to
back up his claims because his security clearance has lapsed. Now,
my understanding is that mister Grush did go through the
(03:07):
proper channels here by turning overclassified information to the IC
Inspector General, and he ultimately filed a complaint to the
ICY Inspector General alleging that the information that he presented
to the IC has been illegally withheld from Congress gentlemen
yields questions on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Missouri.
Those in favors AI those pos know independent the Chair
(03:29):
of the Eyes have it.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The amendment is agreed to.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
By November of twenty twenty three, the reinstatement process was
completed and Grush had his clearances back. In April of
twenty twenty five, Burlison confirmed to ask a poll that
Grush had gotten his top secret clearance reinstated, and by
March of twenty twenty five, Burlison announced that Grush would
be joining his staff as a special advisor to the
House Task Force for the Declassification of Federal secrets.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That's a big.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Deal, congresson you made some headlines with the hire of
David Grush.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Why'd you do it? Why'd you feel the need to
do it?
Speaker 7 (04:04):
I think that just it's frustrating to me that we
can't continue to just not really get any further. And
so one of the things that was highlighted to me
really is that are obvious to me is that we
don't have somebody that's an expert in this field helping
us navigate the intelligence community navigate these because the thing is,
(04:25):
you don't know which question to ask, right, and so
how do you even determine what are you where to
go if you don't even have a first first clue.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Let me take you back to that July twenty twenty
three hearing for a moment when Grush first used the
phrase non human biologics, it became the most quoted line
from the entire testimony. But in that moment he was
careful to clarify. He said that was the assessment of
people with direct knowledge on the program, people who are
(04:54):
still currently on the program, and he was reporting what
others had told him in the Fox New Who interview.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Behar pressed him on whether that has changed.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And when you mentioned in that testimony of recovering the
pilots or remains non human, that's something that you saw
as far as the intelligence with your eyes.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yes, And it is a very uncomfortable even for me
now as somebody who's seen and experienced it, even talking
about it, because it's so outside a normal person's worldview
to understand that there is this biological sentience set have
piloted these crafts that don't necessarily look one hundred percent
(05:34):
like you. And I or their pictures where there there were, Yes,
they were.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Look at his demeanor when he discusses this. He says
it's uncomfortable even for him. And this is someone who
has spent over a decade in military intelligence, someone who
has seen classified information that most people will never know exists,
and even he finds this difficult to process. Beyer then
asked the natural follow up question, are there photographs? Grush
(06:01):
confirmed that photographs of non human beings recovered from these
craft exist and he's seen them. Now, there's so much
more to this interview and more dots that we need
to connect, including what he said about where these beings
come from.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
One of the most thoughtful parts of this interview was
when Beyer asked about where these beings actually come from,
and this is where Grush's answer differs from what other
officials have been saying. Back in August, Congresswoman Anna Paulina
Luna appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast, and Luna leads
the same task force on the declassification of federal secrets
(06:38):
that Grush now advises. She's very confident that these things
exist and that they are inter dimensionals, but Grush takes
a more measured position.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
When I said from another planet or from outer space,
she said not, we don't know where they're from. Is
an interdimensional what are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I've talked to a lot of ill called graybeards on
the program that is a subject of hot debate on origin. I've,
as a guy trained in physics formally as well in
my background, I leave an open mind on what the
origin is. Certainly there is the extra terrestrial hypothesis, and
they could be coming from elsewhere off Earth, but I
(07:17):
don't usually go there because I did not see that data,
and I'm not conversant in the high confidence theories that
the US government has.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That was a really interesting statement that Grush made, and
he's hesitant to even say it's et. You know who
else said something similar, Dylan Porland. Here's the short clip
on what he mentioned on Weaponized back in October.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I think what we are dealing with is very, very
very old. I think old humans have wrote in those
down in religious stories. I think that it's quite clear
that we have been influenced by something else. I think
aarrow has been telling the American public the truth. And
you have said this on weaponize on my behalf, which
is Errow's statement there is no scientific evidence of extraterrestrials
(07:59):
is one hundred percent technically true. You have to have
a control to have scientific proof, and extraterrestrial is a
very exact statement and word with an exact definition, an
entity of another planet. These things, whatever they are, are
probably what are referred to as gods or demons or
(08:22):
angels or gin or insert whatever cultural or religious perspective
you have. There are probably also extraterrestrials. It's it's not
a one size fits all.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Grush also confirmed that Russia and China have their own programs.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
He stated he was able.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
To view intelligence discussing adversarial programs, So whatever this phenomenon is,
multiple world powers are all aware of it. They are
asked about the cover up and whether people have been
threatened for trying to come forward. Grush got pretty personal here.
He confirmed that he was physically threatened, and before he
even filed his Intelligence Community Inspector General report, he said
(09:05):
he had to seek legal protection because he feared for
both his career and his personal safety, and the attacks
on his credibility continued after his twenty twenty three testimony.
Just ninety six hours after he testified before Congress, journalist
Ken and Klippenstein of The Intercept published details from Grush's past,
including police records related to mental health struggles he experienced.
(09:28):
After returning from Afghanistan, Grush filed a two point five
million dollar privacy lawsuit against the Louding County Sheriff's Office,
alleging they unlawfully released confidential records.
Speaker 8 (09:40):
Now it seems that Grush is saying the government leaked
his personal medical information to smear him discredit his claims
that he made against them.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
His legal team argued that timing was not a coincidence,
and the case was dismissed in August at twenty twenty five,
no appeal has been filed. All of that, Grush kept
going and when asked about the current Trump administration, his
tone changed. He stated that members of the Trump administration
are very well aware of this reality.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Vice President J. D.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Vance has spoken about his interest in investigating the topic.
Intelligence Director Toolsey Gabbert has also stated she has many
questions about this as well.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Given his current role advising.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Congress on declassification, Grush is in a position to know
about what these things are Do you believe full disclosure.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Is finally coming.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I'm Christina Gomez and that is it for today. I
will see you again tomorrow at ten am PST for
another UFO News update. Be safe and remember keep your
eyes on the skies.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
If you enjoy today's show, hate that like button?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
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Speaker 2 (11:51):
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