Fort Taber/ Fort Rodman New Bedford

In this episode of Tales, Trails, and Taverns, Rob and Joe head to the historic Fort Taber in New Bedford, Massachusetts for an unforgettable day of exploration and eerie encounters.
Joined by urban explorers Craig and Garfield, paranormal investigator Heather, Rob’s daughter, and Heather’s two sons, the group dives into the shadowy corridors of the Milliken Battery and unearths stories that linger in the dark.
They end the exploration by visiting the on-site museum, laying the groundwork for a deep dive into the fort’s military history—from Civil War roots to its role in coastal defense. But Fort Taber isn’t just about history—it’s long been rumored to be haunted.
As they share the legends and personal accounts tied to the site, including some spine-tingling moments of their own, the mystery surrounding this seaside fortress grows ever thicker.
Come along as we mix history, hauntings, and firsthand exploration in a coastal location that’s as scenic as it is chilling.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
She used to get visited by people at night that
died in the mills.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
There is a shadow figure standing right next to where
the pictures are on the wall that we had just been.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
At about ten minutes ago. Right when we crossed the bridge.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I saw something.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
And as I walk into the hallway, I feel like
I see a little girl out of the right corner
of my eye.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Dude, I see this fucking man quick one too, like
blink my eyes for three seconds and he's fucking gone through.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
The inn is haunted by three ghosts. He says, there's
the general, there's a little girl.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
All of a sudden, just gets this weirdest feeling today,
just got really cold all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's like, kinda within a minute of saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
That, we see two blonde hair, blue eyed children.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Hear them come up the stairs, but I don't see
the light any he or anything. Ferdie went back down
to get it, and about five minutes later he comes
up the stairs and he's got the light in hand,
and I'm like, dude, what did you do? You forget
the light downstairs the first time? And he's like, what
do you mean. He's like, I heard you come up
the stairs. I didn't see a light. Piers, like, dude,
that wasn't That wasn't me.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's a weird feeling about it. We turned, we will.
These kids are fucking gone too.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Welcome back to another episode of Tails, Trails and Taverns,
where we go to spooky places, check stuff out, dig
into the history, looking into the dark past, and then
report it back to you. Let you know what it
was like to be there in person. Oh yeah, for real,
because that's all that's what we do before we get going. Obviously,

(02:00):
we always talk about the Instagram before we started this ship,
and it's up there where we're almost at one hundred
thousand followers on Instagram, but on Bully.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, it's crazy shop that Mike Bach.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
It's getting crazy, crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Big with one hundred dollars fill bitch.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
And so.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm just king.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I feel like we're gonna be I mean, I'm sure
we're not, but I feel like we're gonna show up
the para con is like celebrities versus how we were
there last year.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Man, I mean, people who are vendors who have like
three thousand followers are gonna be like, who the what
the fuck when we start sharing info it's gonna we
really have to get a booth show like it's we
that's it's like, I know we've talked about it and

(03:02):
you've agreed, but we really.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Have to go like that that route next year.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, well we'll try to get that in. We'll try
to do that next year.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Hopefully they're not sold out.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
You know, they might be sold out already.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
But uh, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, Penner's Para Con is coming up May seventeen and eighteenth.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
So we'll definitely make sure to mention it first thing
Saturday morning.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I know, Yeah, I know this is a I know
it's gonna be the second by the time this episode
airs out, but when you wake up tomorrow, it's gonna
be May that joke doesn't get old to me. I
don't know why people think it's.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Dude later it's right up there with May the Fourth.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Be with You. Yeah, I'm gonna do that one too.
I'm gonna get in on that trend as well. Yeah,
as I always do. So you know what's funny is
I was on I was on Instagram earlier and I
saw a comment on one of the videos that I've
got posted up there. One of the reels, and this
reel is like, it's this weird, like it's a it's

(04:15):
the history of everything, but it's it's complete craziness off
of the off of the top. As soon as the
video starts, as like they came to fuck the monkeys,
like imagine you're a gay alien cruising your a galactic
civic and it's just it's such a wild fucking video.
And somebody commented, well, that's the last time that I

(04:37):
scrolled through reels without my headphones in, and I'm like,
oh my god, I replied. I was like, I hope
you were in a meeting bees.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I was, I hope you were in a job.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
So funny, dude, I just wanted to I want to
remember to say that, bring that up before we started.
It's just some of the conferences, like some of the
comments that people believe are so freaking hilarious, dude. Yeah,
and some of the stuff. But it's such a trip, man,
it's a trip getting to interact with all these all
these people on Instagram and all the social media and stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Oh my god, dude, I can't imagine the fucking the
messages you get.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, some of it's weird. I've gotten. You know what's funny,
I've gotten a lot of what I believe are like
Bollywood actors and actresses following me.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
What the hell's Bollywood.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Like the India version of Dollywood on our Hollywood actually,
so it's.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Like it's India's Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
It's India's Hollywood exactly. So I'm I'm getting people like
who are Indian and stuff like that, who are following me,
and they're actors and actresses their blue check mark and
there are millions of followers that follow these people.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Who would have thought tails, trails and taverns was blowing
up in India.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
It's such a weird thing, Like I just such weird
stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Man, that's gotta be that new marketing department.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Maybe we got some marketing gurus in India. Hey, if
you're in India, man, say Hi could jump on the
show on the Instagram.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
And say, Hi, our secrets, Joe.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
I don't know what I don't know what we're doing,
so I can't tell. I can't give any secrets away
if I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
You know, America is pretty tapped, but India is wide
open for the taking.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I mean seriously, like somebody like that, an actor or
actress in India, they got three three million followers. That's
a drop in the bucket in India. That's not a
big part of the population.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
They have over a billion people in that country, right.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, it's I think it's a billion and a half
in India. It's almost as it's around the same Indian
and shin about that well, not even fifty maybe.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
I mean yeah, Like like you said, a million is
a drop in the bucket in India.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, And I don't know how they found I don't
know how these people keep finding my account, keep finding
the tails trails of taverns our stuff. But I mean, awesome,
God bless them. You know, tell your friends, buddy, if
you're if you're an Indian Bollywood actor and actress, tell
your friends listen to podcast. Oh yeah, produce, produce Rob's movie.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah fuck yeah, I will go to India.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
You do it. You shoot that thing in Bollywood?

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Right?

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Oh yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
All right, I'll be I'll be.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
In fucking uh New Deli before you.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
You can wink your eyes.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Slum dog millionaire over here, right, all right, enough you
or jabber. We'll get to the episode right after them,
right after in the dark forest lines, the secret told
in broken stories by those who have bore witness a monster,
a murder, a long forgotten ghost town, shrouded mystery. We're
not just here to uncover these stories. We're here to

(08:17):
walk the haunted paths, to seek out the restless spirits
who linger in these forsaken places, and we want you
to come along. Welcome to tails, trails and taverns, where
curiosity defy his caution. We venture into the eerie trails,
the abandoned ghost towns, and the old taverns where echoes
of the past still cling to the air. These are

(08:38):
the places others might warn you not to go to.
So lace up your boots, grab a work in flashlight,
and join us. Together. We'll tell the tails, hike the trails,
and raise a glass of the spirits, both spectral and distilled,
who wait for us at the tavern's door. All right, well,
let's try this again, because it just realized that we've

(08:59):
been recording for late twenty minutes and Audacity shit the
bet on us.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, and we only got about two minutes of audio.
So so anyway, it is fort Taber Part two and action.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Wait, yeah, you don't get to listen to part one
that's gone, that is out in the ether. But anyways, Yeah,
so this week we did Fort Taber. It's one that
Rob found a couple of weeks ago and decided to
check out. Definitely very cool. I've been there before, but

(09:36):
that was a while Agot and I did not know
that the stuff that you found was even there. So anyways,
we're gonna start talking about the history of Fort Taber
and then we'll go from there.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Fucking a And just to let you guys know, I
just want to briefly mention this Fort Taber is. It's
in the top ten haunted most haunted places in Massachusetts
and top ten most haunted places.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
In New England.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Very cool.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
So there's a lot of paranormal activities linked to this place.
So with that being said, before we get into me.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
And Joe's little exploration we had.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Last weekend, I am going to now read the history
of Forteaber.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right, let's hear it again. I'll hear it again.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I get to hear it twice because you're special. That's why.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Okay, eighteen hundred, New Bedford became the world's foremost whaling
port by the middle of the nineteenth century. The port's
upriver location provided natural protection from coastal gales, but not
storms of national and international controversy. A British rate during

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the American Revolutionary demon strated the vulnerability of the port
in seventeen seventy eight, when seventy vessels and twenty six
storehouses were left in ruined. The need for coastal defense
was obvious again during the War of eighteen twelve. Local
merchants erected the first wooden beacon at Clark's Point at

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the south entrance of the harbor in seventeen ninety seven.
Not much is known of this first structure. The first
lighthouse was erected by the government, was a forty two
foot stone tower, which was built in eighteen oh four
to help guide whalers and other vessels entering.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
The harbor.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Eighteen forty It was not until the late eighteen forties
that the local and national efforts were combined to seriously
plan for construction of a permanent military installation. On September
twenty fourth, eighteen fifty seven, the federal government purchased the
Edward Wing Howard Farm on Clark's Point for the project

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granted from Fall River, mass and Sullivan, Maine, was shipped
to Clark's Point for the construction of the three tiered fort,
which would serve as a link in the coastal defense
system of the federal forts from Fort Turble near Portland, Maine, and.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Fort Right off of the coast of Long Island, New York.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Before the Fall Fort Fort could be completed, the Civil
War had begun. Both Massachusetts Governor John A. Andrews and
Mayor Isaac C. Tabor feared that the Confederate raiders would
leave Union shipping centers in ruins during the war. Confederate

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ships Jefferson Davis, Florida, Dama, Alabam, Tascany and Tallahassee, Proud
Long Island Sound, and Buzzard's Bay. The fear was then realistic,
as many local ships were captured and destroyed and the

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new Bedford whaling fleet caught upon open seas were decimated.
So they actually had whaling ships that were caught and
sunk by Confederate ships during the Civil War.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
That's pretty wacky. Yeah, it is not content to wait
for the state or federal aid.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Mayor Tabor and the city council made plans for self defense.
Superintendent of the Streets, Adolph Ashley, supervised the construction of
the earthworks for a fort on clocks Point just to
the west the granite for in construction eighteen sixty May eleventh,

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eighteen sixty one, the earthworks fort was completed and operational.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Brass and iron cannons were mounted.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
To protect Clark's Clove and a cushiont river approaching the city.
This temporary defense portion was first named Fort Tabor in
honor of the city's chief executive at the time. In
cooperation with the Town of fair Haven, for Home and
Coastal and Coastguard companies and an artillery company were quickly

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recruited to man Fort Tabor and Fort Phoenix. By May
twenty third, eighteen sixty one, the new Bedford Morning Mercury
Aver advertised a well worth visit for citizens to Fort
Tabor to observe bristling guns and neatly uniformed troops, which

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now present quite a formidable appearance.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Later in that year, when the.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Great storm Stone Fleet left the city to blockade the
southern ports, Fort Taber's guns gave a roaring sendoff. By
the spring of eighteen sixty three, the walls of the
granite fort were.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Completed to such a height as.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
To block for Taber's earth Fort from within view of
the accushion at river.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
The granite fort was.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Worthy, was a worthy successor to the earthen fort, its
presence a deterrent.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
To any Confederate raider.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
The earthworks were then dismantled and the guns were mounted.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Within the castments castmates of the new fort.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Fort table was no more, but in the public mind
the new Stone Fort, but a con continuation of the original.
As the granite Fort was yet unnamed and appeared on
government records simply as the clock the fort at Clark's Point,
it's natural it was natural to refer to it simply

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as Fort Tabor. The local dictation persists even to this day.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Eighteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
With the Civil War conclusion, the War Department ceased construction
of the fort in eighteen seventy one, leaving a three
tiered uncompleted for the unused granite blocks were sent into
construction of the seawall. So, for those of you who

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aren't as on to up to speed with New Bedford, Massachusetts,
they have a massive seawall down at this area of
the city. Joe if you want, do you want to
explain that for like a minute or two.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, it's just there is just like down to this point.
When you get down to when you get down to
Clark's Point, you have to go through you have to
go through a section of the sea wall. And it's
basically this giant it's a wall made out of blox
that just looks like an earthen not earthen, but a
stone stone wall that goes all the way around to Bedford.

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And they've got these huge metal gates that close during
like for hurricanes or flooding and stuff like that, and
it runs it cuts off this point from the rest
of New Bedford.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I mean, the last time they used them was Hurricane
Bob in nineteen ninety.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, And so like you can't you can't see over them.
They're probably what are they forty feet tall at least. Yeah,
So nowadays they've got walkways going up on top of them,
so you can walk up there and check it out.
But then once you get through the gate, you can
see you can see the ocean everything. But when you're
on the inside of the seawall, like you can't see shit.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, I mean, and because This part of the Bedford
is very.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Very below sea level.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, very low.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
So that's pretty much where the rest of the Grandite
blocks were sent to construct the massive seawall. Back to
the history though of Fort Tabor. Thank you Joe for
enlightening us. The Clark's Point Warehouse and the Lightkeeper's quarters

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were relocated to the top western corner of the second tier.
During the Civil War years, Captain Henry Martin Robert was
placed in charge of the construction of the fort.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
It was around this.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Time, after attending a chaotic church meeting, that he began
writing the Roberts Rule of Parliamentary Procedure. First published in
eighteen seventy six, it remains as the standard guide to
preliminary procedure to this day eighteen ninety.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
In eighteen ninety eight, the.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Entire military property was officially named in honor of Lieutenant
Colonel William Logan Rodman of New Bedford, killed in the
Civil War Battle of Port Hudson.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Louisiana in eighteen ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
The Barton Walcott Batteries on the west and east sides
of Fort Tabor were constructed nineteen hundred.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
At the turn of the century, Fort.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Rodman was placed on a caretaker basis with a small
body of troops to ensure the protections protection of weapons
and federal property. During that period, the remainder of the
modernized seacoast.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Artillery batteries were completed.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
In nineteen oh two, construction was completed on the bunkers
Craig and Cross. These bunkers would make fine additional additions
to the western postal fortification. In nineteen eleven, Ernest Bryers
took photos of his brother Cero Buyers and his comrades

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who were stationed on Fort Rodman prior to the beginning
of the Civil War. I mean prior to the beginning
of World War One. I apologize, folks, eyes jumped there.
Just keep in mind to folks, I'm reading this from
the actual Fort Tabor dot org history.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Website, so there's pictures.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
So when I say stuff like that, like I said,
as you can see in the pictures below, but you
can't see it because I'm reading it.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Just keep that in mind.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
The Roaring nineteen twenty the Roaring twenties saw the completion
of Battery Milkin.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Okay, we're going to get into that later, trust me.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Named in honor of the Bedford native, second Lieutenant Alfred W.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Milkin. He actually won the Medal of Honor, by the way,
that got it.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, it was it's the Medal of Honor that we
saw inside the Military museum.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Job.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, he was the guy he won the Medal of
Honor in the Civil War.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Was erected with its two immersed twelve twelve inch guns.
It protected Buzzes Bay for a radius of sixteen miles.
The battery Milkin was self supporting unit with systems that
include power, chemical, warfare service units, plotting room, radio and

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signal operations, and storage of projectiles and powder within a
reinforced concrete, gas proof underground facility.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah that's cool.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Oh yeah, they were fucking around right.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Nineteen forty. During the late summer.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Of nineteen forty, National Guard coast artillery regiments and some
regular Army coast artillery units were activated and brought to
full strength. It was at this time that Fort Rodman
received its complement its complement of troops. However, being that

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the barracks and the quarters were not completed yet, the
majority of the enlisted men were housed intents.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
That sounds like fun.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
On the eighth of December nineteen forty one, a state
of war was declared and Fort Rodda been responded with
all other coastal forts gods guards were anxious and suspicious
of all of any movements. Tensions ran high, and the
ordinance was frequently and lovingly expected by the battery commander,

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as well as by the lowest private. Newspaper reports at
the time talk of incidents of German submarines within the
general area of Buzzards Bay.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
And Newport, Rhode Island.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Nineteen sixty, shortly after the end of World War Two,
Fort Rodman Complex was declared a surplus. The massive twelve
inch guns were removed and salvage. The two one five
to five millimeter semi mobile rifles were towed to Fort

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Banks and Winthrope, Massachusett. The smaller guns, such as ones
at batteries Craig Cross and Wallcox one and two, were
also removed. Though the fort was not used as any
active coastal defense station, it still provided an area for

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army reserve training throughout the end of the Vietnam War. Finally,
in the nineteen seventies, the entire Fort Roddan Complex acreage
was partially sold to the City of New Bedford for
future educational and park purposes. It was not until the
late nineteen seventies that the first Fort Tabor society was formed,

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known as Friends of Fort Tabor. At this time, the
fort enjoyed a renewal period as individuals and groups volunteered
their time to help restore the aging four during the
national bi Centennials celebration of nineteen seventy six. Fun fact,

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my brother's birthday is July fourth, nineteen seventy six. Yeah,
I thought that was cool when I'd share that the
Fort Rodman area was used as a site for a
historical recreation, so they did a like a reenactment of

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the Revolutionary War.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Two thousand. With the change of the millennium came change
for the old fort.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
By the year two thousand, renewed interests in the area
by members of the original committee and the Mayor's office
spawned the creation of the Fort Tabor Historical Association.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
A new bike and walk path now.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Surround the point, bringing patrons to each of the historical fortifications.
Twenty ten, at the end of the first decade of
the twenty first century, the fort continually improves the military
museum and the many outdoor activities centered at the fort
have rejuvenated the fort and sprawned interests in the area

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and its rich history. The Fort Tabor Fort Rodman Museum
Fort Rodman Military Museum has been a central component.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Of Fort rot of the Fort Rodman experience.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
The many contributions and donations in both materials and volunteer
hours have made the museum an international attraction, with visitors
from nations outside the US being impressed by the museum's
display of New Bedford's rich military history. During the latter

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part of two thousand and nine, New Bedford Mayor Scott
Lang approved the construction of an additional building to the
museum building, thus allowing the display of many items donated
to the museum that previously could not be displayed because
of its limited space.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
And that's pretty much in the history of Fort Tabor for.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
So, and we we went in that fucking thing, and
let me tell you it's cool, no Joe.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, So when you first get there, I'm looking at
the map of this place. So when you first pull
into the parking lot, you go past the museum and
then you'll see the pier that sticks off to the left,
and you see a battery directly in front of you.
That's Battery Walcott, okay, and then right to the right
of that is Battery Gaston. Then you see the big

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granite Fort Tabor or Fort Rodman. That's the massive section.
I know, that's the one you see in all the pictures.
If you look up Fort Tabor, Fort Rodman, that's the
first thing you see is that huge granite fort. That's
the one that you can't get into. They've got it
all locked up. And then as you go around, as
you go around the point, that's when you come across

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the other batteries. There's Battery Cross the first one you
come across, then Battery Craig, then Battery Barton, and then
way in the back towards the US Marine Research Laboratory
that's all covered in trees and covered and it's it's
all overgrown and there's a fence that's supposed to be
up covering it, covering the entrance to it. That's where

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you get to Battery Milliken.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
So hold on a second show.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
So those little gun stations actually were little forts.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Those are their gun batteries.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
And they had they had their own separate names. Yeah, Okay,
that's cool as fuck.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
I didn't even know that.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
So each one of those little things is a battery.
That's a it's a gun battery.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Okay, fucking that's cool, man.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Continue So yeah, and then down to the very end
is the self contained battery Millikan. So Millican was a
lot bigger than the rest of them. The rest of
them were just we're just gun batteries. They were probably
had to be served with the weapons and the ammunition
probably had to be brought in from outside areas. But
Millican differs in the fact that it's a completely self
contained battery where everything was, like they were saying, underground

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service areas. Yeah, all the all the uh you know,
the weapons, the powder, the rounds and everything was all
underground inside.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
So and that's the one that we went and checked
out the last Saturday with with some other people. With
your friends, you want to tell them about who we
who we met up with.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Okay, So I'm just gonna rewind real quick for a
minute or two. I went and checked this place out
two weeks ago after my daughter had a soccer game
in Dartmouth, and I was ten minutes away from this place,
and I'm like, fuck it, let me go check it out.
I went there. I went to the military museum. That
was cool as fuck. I walked around, went to all

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the other gun stations.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
That was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
And then I walked the entire bike slash walking path
and it led me all the way down to Battery Milkin.
And when I got there, it was like this major
fucking underground bunker thing. And as I walked closely up

(30:35):
to it, I noticed there was a fence, but there
was a hole that you could fit a goddamn fucking
volts wagon through, and there was no signs of like
no trespassing or anything for that matter.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
So I walked right inside that.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Motherfucker and I'm like, okay, like this is up my alley,
like I'm gonna do some exploring.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Well, let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
As soon as as I turned that fucking corner and
went went around, that fucking place was pitch fucking black,
was it not, Joe?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
It was pitch black. And I remember I told you
to make sure you bring a flash light. But funny,
the funny thing is the only part of that is
that first battery. I went into the first battery. You
see when you walk in there, battery Walk Battery Walcott.
That's the one that's right in front of you. You
can get inside and there's there's tungst That's the only

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one I went into. I went like two rooms deep
and it was pitched. My phone flashlight didn't even illuminate
the room. It's like I already knew it was going
to be dark, and.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
So I I turned the corner and it's pitch fucking black.
I have a shitty ass fucking Walmart flash light. I
just I was not the pans for that. So I'm like,
this is something I can't do solo.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
I got a roll with the group.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I saw a tent at one point inside there, so
I literally was only in there for like five minutes.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
So I called up.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I told Joe, told him about my experience, and Joe
was like, hey, fuck, I'm free next week.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
So pool I had Joe on board.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I reached out to my friend Craig, who I do
a lot of urban exploration from. He's a guy that
I met in an urban exploration group through Instagram.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
He was fucking down.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
We had another guy come that I've urban explored before.
I think it was your first time ever meeting him Garfield.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
You gotta get when we're done with this, you gotta
give me his Instagram handle because.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
I will.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
And then, and then we also got to meet the
infamous Heather, somebody that Craig has talked a lot about,
but I've never met her before. Yeah, she's an urban
expiration savage, just like Craig is.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
And and she brought her two sons.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
I believe one of them was sixteen and the other
one was eighteen.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
And also I had my daughter and so.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
But also Heather showed up with ghost hunting equipment, right.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
She's also a parallel investigator.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yes, so this, my little stumbling upon this underground battery
military battery led to a massive adventure that we all
went on.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, it was quite interesting.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, So we all met in the parking lot around
one point thirty.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
On Saturday, this Saturday.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
If you guys are from Massachusetts a Rhode Island, you'll
probably know that the fucking weather was absolutely awful.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
It was like it was downpours.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
So it was like torrential downpours on and off all day.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
It was like forty five degrees. It just was very shitty.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
But we all met up around one thirty and we
walked I don't know, about ten to fifteen minutes to
the battery.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, it doesn't take very long to get to it.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
No, not at all, about ten minute walk and uh yeah,
we got in there and we just turned the corner
and started exploring. And I mean, what's crazy is Heather?
She was even saying, like the second we turned the
corner and she turned on all their ghost box shit,

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she was getting my activity like right.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Off the rip.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Dude. Yeah, she was like it was whack. Yeah, it's
pretty cool all that stuff works. And she was definitely
getting some getting some different voices, getting some different stuff
through it.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, it was fucking crazy. Man.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
At one point, I don't know if you heard it
or not, but at one point your daughter said she
thought she saw a human figure or shadow figure towards
the end of the hall, towards the end of the tunnel.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
She talked about that in the car ride. I'm glad
you brought that up because it was not human.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, she said it looked like it was somebody on
all fours.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yeah. Yeah, it shrieked her out a lot.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Actually, yeah, I kind of We walked around that corner
and there was there was some ravioli in a can
with a fork in it, and I kind of brushed
it off as like, well, maybe we spooked someone and
he ran off, but weird that he would be in
all fours. But yeah, she mentioned that to me, and
that was the interesting.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
So if you folks don't know New Bedford, it's it's
a it's a cool city and all, but it's a
little rough around the edges. So yeah, I can't be
So we walked around that corner and we started walking.
So you walked down this hallway and there's doors to
the right and left of you. And the first door

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we saw it was just like a small enclosed room
with with trash and ship.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
All over the place.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
The second door we we we saw there was a
ten so there was clearly some squatter living inside there.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
So we stayed clear of that room.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, give space to whatever if there was somebody in
there or not. I don't think we didn't verify if
there was somebody.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Down there, right, we didn't go in the room.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
No. I just I remember how they're just saying out
loud like, hey, we're not here to we're not here
to bother you. We're just passing through. What I thought
I thought they were actually talking to somebody who was
legitimately there, but they just.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I mean, I don't know, they might have seen somebody.
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
I didn't go in the fucking room, right, I saw
that the tent for the second time.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, same thing with me, Like I poked around the corner,
saw the tent and just left it alone. Just give
people their space, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
I mean, that's why I didn't like when I did this.
When I did this the second time, I literally I
borrowed two flashlights from work that are literally like one
hundred dollars flashlights, Yeah, the use for my job, that
were fucking bright as fuck, and I had I'm not Joe,
Joe can confirm it. I have like a ten inch

(37:52):
military book knife on me. Yeah, because I just I
wasn't going to play any games if we into any
shady characters underneath there.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
But luckily we didn't, so we.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Didn't run anybody. But like you said, you know, your
daughter thought she saw some shadow figures, and did she
see anything else besides that one er.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
She saw that one shadow figure. She saw glowing eyes
at one point. Yeah, when we remember when we saw
like the long alleyways that were like literally like the
width of of a of a person.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, my shoulders were bumping into both the walls as
I walked through them.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
And yeah, she said she saw glowing eyes at the
end of one of them.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
She she definitely had weird vibes, dude, I mean she
she told me she saw something that wasn't human.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
But then she also said she saw a little girl
at one point.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Really, yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
If nothing spoke to her, I said, did anything speak
to you at all? And she's she said, no, this
was on the right home. Yeah, but she saw things.
She definitely saw things.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Okay. Yeah, so the ghost Box and the Obvious was
definitely had a little bit of voices coming through. Didn't
really sound like too too much. I remember there was
some weird There was some weird stuff at one point
that was coming through a very ominous words.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I don't remember exactly there were were.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
You that was So, Joe, is there any way to
really explain this?

Speaker 1 (39:38):
I mean, this, this fucking place is wacky once once
you get in.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
There, Yeah, it is wacky. So you told me, you know,
you said, Hey, the Ghost Hunters actually did an episode
on this, So I went and I watched that that
episode yesterday. So the Ghost Hunters is the taps of the
Atlantic Paranormal Society. So they did an episode of this.
It's season eleven, episode five. I think it's the Pirates,

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something about pirates, And they did the Fortepe before Robbie.
This is back in twenty sixteen, and apparently they had
started doing reenactments at that point, so they'd started doing
like World War one, World War two, Civil War, even
Vietnam War reenactments there, and they said the activity that
was going on there in twenty sixteen was really bumping

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up this paranormal activity that was going on. So once
they started doing that, once they started doing the reenactments,
they started getting more and more people reporting weird in activities.
So there was stuff like there was motion cameras that
were going off in the museum constantly. They were seeing
stuff in the in the cameras in the museum. Somebody

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had reported an apparition that looked like it was working
on the tank, you know, the tiger tank that as
you see when you walk in. They said there was
an apparition that looked like it was trying to work
on the tank. At some point there's shadow figures that
they see, there's disembodied voices, there's EVPs. There was a

(41:11):
girl apparently who was actually in the Granite fort, because
they do when they were doing the reenactments, they would
open the uh, they would open the ford up for
people to go inside.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
I wish I could have seen.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
So, I mean, they may have stopped that after COVID,
you know, they may have slowed that down and stopped
doing that after COVID. Well, we'll have to look into
it to see if they're doing reenactments because they open
that up again. Like, I definitely want to get in
there and check that out.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Yeah, I mean, I I this the what you call it.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
The seasonal dates are May first to Labor Day.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, so apparently there was a story where a girl
was chasing a shadow through the second floor of the
granite structure and she chased it right off a ledge
and fell a couple fellow story herder leg or whatever.
And then specifically in Milliican, specifically in the Millican Battery,

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there are shadow figures, disembodied voices, there are noises like explosions,
and there is a shimmering entity that appears to people
in the Millican. I don't know, but that was such

(42:34):
a weird specific thing for Milliican, a shimmering entity that
appears shimmering apparition. So they were saying that during construction.
There was one death during construction where something fell and
somebody was crushed. But then there were also soldiers that

(42:55):
were brought there during the war because there was an
infirmary inside of the Fort Rodman. Yeah, so there were
soldiers that were brought there during the war that that
were definitely injured during the Civil War and whatnot. And
then during the Spanish Flu, people were brought in there.
They were using it as a hospice basically for flu victims.

(43:17):
So people were brought in during the Spanish Flu. People
definitely had passed away during their you know inside there
during that during that pandemic.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
So yeah, they did, they did an investigation there. They
found they found a lot of a lot of similar
stuff that they saw shadows move in. They were hearing
a lot of stuff in Millikan. Milligan was probably the
most active one that they that they found. They were
in there, they were they could hear bang. There was
a couple of bangs. It was a couple of really
good bangs. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
I mean, honest to God, folks, Uh, Joe, you can
confirm this.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
I've explored a lot of fucking places. This place gives
your movie vibes.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
It is kind of creepy, and so it.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Has a weird creep factor to it. I just can't explain.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, And so at one point they heard like footsteps,
They could hear footsteps coming from all different places, like
coming up behind them and stuff like that. I did notice.
And they also said though on the show that I
noticed that there is like there's a lot of condensation
that drips through the ceiling down there, and because there's

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so many like empty cans, either of spray paint cans
or food cans or trash and stuff like that that's
kind of out b against the wall. I noticed that,
like when a big drop or something hits one of those,
it does make a pretty loud sound, you know, because
it was pouring while we were there. But apparently that
condensation stays there even if it's not raining out, there's

(44:51):
still condensation. There's still drops coming from the ceiling at
all times. I mean that may or may not explain
all the weird sounds, some of the ones that I
was hearing.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
You know, I'm gonna tell you something, Joe, Uh, I
was surprised for the weather we had that it was
really not.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Any wet spots at all. So you know, it's interesting
take on any water.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
So you know what's interesting is in one of those
rooms that we first went into, right around the back,
there was this spot where there was I don't know
if you saw it or not, there was a spot
where the where the floor dropped down and there was
actually a tunnel that was a level lower than we were,
and it was full of water.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Oh okay, so like a French strains they built a
French strain system.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
No, it was just it was just there was a
hole in the floor. It looked like it dropped down
and there was like a tunnel that went off in
the distance, but it was full of it was full
of standing water.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
So I was actually I was watching some other videos
on Fort Table, like some other urban explorers, and one
of them they found that same hole that dropped down
and it was empty and they were able to get
they were able to get down into it and they
went up pretty far distance. I don't know how far
it actually went. They went probably forty or fifty feet

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down that tunnel. It's probably only about five feet tall,
four or five feet tall at the most. But they
were able to go forty or fifty feet and the
tunnel just kept going. It didn't look like they got
to any end at all. So I don't know where
that tunnel went, or how far it went, or what
it serviced or what it does, whether it was just
a drainage system for the ford or if it was

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something else. But that was something else that was completely
full of water when I saw it.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Okay, so that's where all the water went.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
So I don't know if I may have gotten that
on video. I'll try to. I'll try to scan through
the video I got. But I put that on Instagram
for all the subscribers. I put all the footage from
that on there, so if you want to subscribe to Instagram,
you could see all my full long length format videos

(47:04):
of when I when we explore these places. I put
them all up there like that, And I'm pretty sure
that's in there. I'm pretty sure I walked up to
that with the camera on. So I'll try to find that.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
And uh, I did, I did, actually saw that video
that was like a good fifteen minute video.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Did you add more of them?

Speaker 2 (47:24):
No? I think I stuck them all together. I thought
it was I thought it was closer to thirty but
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
It could have it could have been thirty minutes. I
mean I watched it like once, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah, but yeah, So as far as like the water
drainers that there may be a drainage system in there,
I mean there were some spots where the floor was
definitely lower down. I don't know what those rooms were
for the one we were sitting in when we were
doing the the paranormal stuff and we were listening to
the the ghost hunting equipment trying to hear voices and

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stuff in there.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
I mean, as soon as she turned that shit on.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
And in the corner that that fucking shit started going.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Off like wild.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
And she was even saying it too. She's like, I
am getting a lot of activity.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Right, and there's like there's no EMF or anything in there,
Like you're not. There's no electricity running to those places.
It's all been ripped out.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
You saw all the wires, Yeah, I mean there's no
fucking radio waves or anything getting fucking transmitting through that
fucking this This is a legit, folks. This is a
legit like underground, fucking air type bunker.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah. And the thing is, it's ominous when you walk
up to it. Like the size of the entrance to
it is massive, and it's got this big like half
it's like oval that kind of hangs out, hangs over it.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, it's it's it's fucking wacky, man.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
I don't even know how to explain it.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
I would like to see if at some point if
you can figure out where the batteries actually were for
battery Milliken, because like what we were going through, that
was all the bunkers for the weaponry. That was all
like the you know, it had all the rails on
the roof, on the ceiling. That was all the move
like ammunition and projectiles and stuff like that. But I

(49:17):
kind of want to see like where the batteries actually were.
Where were the guns mounted? You know what I mean?
I mean there was that one pill box on the
top in the back, and that's just a machine gun fortification.
You know. We could see that as we were walking up.
You could see it up on the hill, you know,
reminiscent of like I don't know. When you see movies

(49:37):
about D Day and storming the beach in Normandy, you
see pillbox. You see the German pill box and they're
shooting down the beach like that's what it is, the
pill box up on the hill.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
But what I didn't see was the actual batteries of
where the twelve inch guns would have been set up,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
We found one of them, remember, but it was it
was welded shot.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
No, that that was the pillbox.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
No, no, no, I'm talking about where the batteries were for
the guns. Where were the guns mounted? That's what I
That's what I didn't say. Where were the Where were
the big guns mounted? Where were they feeding all those
rounds to? You know what I mean? It could have
been those doorways that went off went off of the
back and those rooms where we were, you know, because
I had those doors that were all blocked off and

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gave off. I mean, it might have been out in
that direction, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Could have been.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I mean, when once you get inside that fucking big tunnel,
it's confused.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
It's confusing. It's a very confusing place.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yeah, the rooms of the rooms off the side are confused.
And the tunnel itself is very easy. It's just it's
one big tunnel. It kind of goes in turns it
like a thirty degrees, goes all the way down the
other end, turns the thirty degrees and then there's another
opening down to the other end.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, I mean the tunnel itself is pretty self explained.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
It's a it's a big fucking tunnel, big long.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Tunnel, is dark as hell, and there's all these rooms
off to the side. The rooms you can get lost
in pretty quick. Very you can't go very far before
you have to turn around and come back.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
But I remember several times while we were exploring it,
like just getting lost with the group and like I'd
be like, okay, fucking I'm next to Garfield and I'm
next to Heather and their kids, but where's my kid?
And you know what I mean. It was just like
like my daughter would be with you and or and

(51:32):
then you know, Craig would be in a room by himself,
and it was it just got whacky.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yes, yeah, And there was at one point we're in
one of those side rooms, and we decided that we're
gonna shut all the lights off and just listen for
the the ovulus and the and the spirit box and
just ask questions. And dude, I'm not even kidding, Like
I'm standing there and I'm and I've got like my

(51:58):
back to this hallway. This happened a couple times. Actually,
both times when we sat down, we listened to the
boxes like I had my back to like a hallway
or an opening, and I kept turning around and looking
at like seeing like kept kind of taking the flashlight
kind of opening my hand up a little bit so
I could kind of see because I kept feeling like
there's something down this fucking hallway. Constant feeling of that

(52:20):
of like what the fuck was that? What the fuck
was that? What is that? Like I just kept wanting
to have eyes on whatever was fucking behind me the
whole time. So, yeah, when Craig asked if I was
feeling anything, and I said, no, not really, that was
that was probably that was something, you know what I mean,

(52:41):
it's definitely creepy.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
You were just too cool for school, just yep.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I mean, while we were walking around, it's like whatever,
we're just we're just walking around. You know, I got
eyes on everybody. But when we were just sitting there listening,
it was always like there was a hallway or something
or a room right behind me or off to my sideway.
Kept wanting to kept wanting to have eyes on it.
You know.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
I mean, I don't mean to toot my own horn, Joe,
you know what I mean. I've done a lot of
urban explorations. Do you understand why I didn't want to
do this alone?

Speaker 2 (53:20):
It would have freaked alone. I wouldn't want to I
wouldn't want to go in all those rooms if I
was it was just me. You know.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
It's it's just there's a creep factor to it. It's
I can't probably put my thumb on it. But there
is something there, man, There's something there. You you there
are moments, like you said, where you where you swear
to God you think you saw something. There's moments where
you feel like you're being washed. Uh. There was that

(53:55):
the one session where we remember, like.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
You said, you had your back to the wall.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
We shut up all the lights and we did we
did about ten fifteen minutes of readings. Yeah, and what's
fucked up is I had read some articles like that
morning before we went out there, and I guess a
woman left a dead baby in there in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yeah, that's right. You were talking about that while we
were there.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
And and at one point did Heather tell you like
it sounded like a like a like a baby's crying.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
I didn't hear that.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
She caught it like twice. Yeah, it sounded like like
a like a baby crying.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
That's creepy shit. Whenever you start hearing is crying or
babies crying in a place where you know there's no babies,
that's fucking you know, it's creepy.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
And they found a dead baby what three years ago
in there, It's freaky. And then there was the other
time where she was hearing like growling.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Did you get that, dude?

Speaker 2 (55:13):
No? And I think that's one of the things that
happens there too.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
That was towards the end. Dude, she started hearing growling. Yeah,
and she's like, who are you? What's your name?

Speaker 3 (55:24):
And it just kept growling, dude, And then.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
She was like, I don't know if you're supposed to
ask this. I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about it. But
she's like, are you human and it called her a bitch.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Yeah, dude. Yeah, So when she said are.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
You human and it called her a bitch, she was like, yeah,
I'm done. That was the end of the ghost box, dude,
I'm not even kidding. We heard like two or three
growls and then she said are you aim and the
thing called her a bitch and.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
She shut the ship off. And I don't blame her
because unlike, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Want to proceed with this one.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
It creep It creeped me out.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yeah, well, I mean, man, oh man, what a fucking
that was an experience, dude, Like.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Yeah, it was. It was a good experience, man, because
we had, you know, a few people who are you
guys are definitely urban explorers your big time and some
paranormal investigators. I know from you know, looking at Heather
stuff on her TikTok page. She does quite a lot
of paranormal investigation. Oh yeah, and so she's pretty it's
pretty handy with all that and a uh, that was

(56:49):
an interesting take. I don't spend a lot of time
doing that, doing the ghost hunting thing, so it was
definitely it's fun to watch, fun to watch people who
do that.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Oh yeah, I mean because I explore, I don't do.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Any of the the the ghost home stuff. So that
was that was a cool element to our our journey
that day.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yeah, very cool.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Yeah, it was. It was cool.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
There was a lot of like cool side rooms to
go into. It would be cool, like you said, Joe,
to maybe have a map or something of like when
it was in operations to see where where did the
guns go and where how was it all kind of

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set up when it was in operations.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
That that would be that would be kind of neat
if they if they started doing that with Milliken, kind
of bringing it back, you know what I mean, so
you see how how it operated. Yeah, a self detain
battery like that. It's it's interesting, you know, to see
that stuff. They do have a lot of older pictures
there in the museum. They had a lot of history
of it there because.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
It's like, you know, I'm going to use an analogy, Joe,
it's like a mini city down there.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
No time is Yeah, I mean self contained battery like
that is a is its own little it's got its
own little workings and everything in there.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
But yeah, it's like a little underground city slash too.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Yeah, so I did want to mention before we wrapped
this up, I was watching another I was watching a
YouTube video another urban investigator who went in there, and
this was only dated like nine months ago, and you
know how we went in there and there's graffiti all
over the walls, everything all down the hallways, everything, you know,
in that first room, especially to like when you walk

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in there, in that first room in the right, just
that single room, all the walls were all graffiti. So
this video from nine months ago, this guy walked in there,
it was probably you know, late summer or whatever. All
those walls were all painted over. Is almost no graffiti
on any of those walls nine months ago, so all

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that stuff is all relatively new. Like it seems like
they at some point over the summer they went in
there and painted everything, tried to clean it up, and
then ever since then, over the winter or whatever, all
this new graffiti has popped up. So they are obviously
trying to keep it, trying to clean it up, but
not able to keep up with it. You know.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
You know, it's it's crazy because I go I went
in there, and I.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Saw about I want to say three because because some
people who do this shit, they like to.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
The urban explorers.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
They tag like a symbol or like they put a name,
you know what I mean. And I saw about three
of them that I've I've seen in Norwich.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
State Fanaled just about every other place I've ever explored. Yeah,
you know what I mean. So it's like wow, man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Like, fucking these people who are gonna explore, they don't
suck around, dude, like, like they literally go to every
fucking place.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
It's like, oh, yeah, I've.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Seen that signed before, and oh I've seen that one before.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
It's you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Like, yeah, there was there was somebody. It was an
number explorer that I found on Instagram because he spray
painted his Instagram name at Seaside Sanatorio.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
And so oh he had his marking and for battery milking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
No, no, no, I'm just saying that in general, Like I
found him on Instagram because of he put his name,
he put his Instagram in handle, he spray painted at
Seaside Asylum and I found his social media stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Oh no, shit, what did Heather?

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Didn't Heather say something about Seaside when we were there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
She did, yes, she said she had a really crazy
experience there. Something about it. I can't remember exactly what
it was, but there was something. Something In some paranormal investigating,
she found something happened that was pretty awesome as far
as ghost.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Let's put that fucking ship on the shelves and go
back to that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Yeah, well, we got to get there. We got to
get inside those big buildings at some point before they
tear them down. I've been talking about doing for years.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
I mean, that's the great part. But like with oh
and then.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
She since you got chased out, Oh yeah by security.
They got caught and chased out by security. Yeah, but
one of the rangers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
That's the one thing though, when you go with people
like Craiger Heather, like they know all the nooks and
crannies how to get into places without getting for the
most part, you know what I mean, because they just
they do it so much.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Man, some of the some of the things that I've
seen on her on her TikTok, the places that she's gone,
it looks incredible that I wouldn't even think you can
get into places like that, and then there they are,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Oh yeah, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Anyways, let's wrap this up. Man, it's been an.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Hour, Okay, any any anything more paranormal you want to
speak about it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I think I covered everything that we saw that popped
up on that show.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
I mean, okay, so we're wrapping it up here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Scale of one to ten, I'm gonna say plus fucking
twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
It is definitely haunted.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
There's something, there's something in that battery.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
I can't speak about the fort itself because we didn't
get inside of it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Yeah, hopefully, like you said, when the season starts in May,
maybe we will go check it out and maybe they'll
have tours and we could see the inside of the fort,
which can be cool as fun.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
That would be cool. Yeah, the big granted Fort Robman
is definitely one that's on the list. I want to
get into it. I want to go in there. I mean,
whether it's a tour or whether it's I mean, hell,
we might even be able to like talk them into
giving the podcast a tour. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Yeah, something dude.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
We gotta start leveraging this uh this, you know, what
the hell do you call it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Following?

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
You starting leveraging this following for something, you know, just
being up there with influencers and stuff like that. I
don't even know what the terminology is for it, but
it's got to be something. It's gotta be something we
could do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
We we got some poll, now you should.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Be able to pull something. Yeah. But anyways, it was
fun watching. It was fun going to pot Table and
checking all that stuff out and then watching the ghost
Hunters video and watching their episode on it and be like, oh,
I know where that is. I know where that is.
I know where that is. I've been in that room.
I've been in that room.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
I don't know why I didn't think of that. I
should have watched that fucking episode. I'm gonna have to
watch that now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
But anyways, when we get to Penhurst para Con, we're
gonna have to stay in line and go meet those
guys and tell them like, oh, hey, we were just
at fourteen we watched your episode.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Oh fuck yeah, dude, man. Not only that, we can
tell them we've been in Norwich.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
We've been We've been in a lot of fucking places
they've been.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Yeah, I'll see if I'll have to ask Jason Osby,
like you remember we met at a Washington County fair.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
I was the guy making a fuck ton of popcorn.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I was the guy making a bunch of put We
were just sitting there, I was standing behind you in
line at the What the hell was it? It was
the grilled cheese, grilled cheese place. They make a bomb
grilled cheese buffalo sandwich. Yeah, every year, gotta get one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Put it on the list.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
It's always on the list. Yeah man. So yeah, guys,
if you see us, we're gonna be at Penner's para
count If you go there, you'll see us walking around.
You'll see us in our shirts.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
We'll have our colors on. We'll be repping.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Walk up, say hi.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
We love seeing people. We're gonna be trying to talk
to all the We're trying to talk to all the
ghost hunters and paranoral people, seeing all the people we
met there last year.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Yeah, it's gonna be a blast. Man. I'm super excited
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
I can't believe it's it's already two weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Yes, two weeks away.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Dude, two weeks will be heading up there checking out Gettysburg.
Can't wait for that too.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
Oh yeah, that's gonna be good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Anyways, guys, thanks for listening, Thanks for being there with us.
Fort Tabor awesome place. You gotta go check it out yourself.
If you do, let us know what you find.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Awesome, awesome experience.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
It was playing a cool, cool exploration and a very
cool experience.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Oh. The one thing I forgot to bring up. So
they were building the fort Table right because they were
protecting the whaling fleet yep okay in the eighteen seventies.
So the house that my family has on the cape,
the property in the house, the homestead that was built

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in sometime between eighteen seventy and eighteen ninety. OZIOH. Baker,
my grandfather's grandfather who built the house, was a harpoonist
and he sailed out of New Bedford on a ship
called the Marlin. He was out there from nineteen seventy
two to nineteen seventy six hunting whales. So he was

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part of that fleet while four Table was being built.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Holy shit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
So one of the there's a book about Cotuit. It's
one of these little book that just tells all the
little stories about the town, about the village of Catuit,
the one that I grew up in. Yeah, and so
they've got a little depiction there. They've got Ozile and
he's holding his holding his harpoons before he lost his arm.
He lost his right arm below the blow the elbow

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from a firearms accident, but while he still had both arms,
he was a harpoonist. And at one point they had
a whale on the harpoon and they said his leg
got wrapped up in a rope right and the whale,
the whale actually pulled him off the ship and the
guys grabbed the rope, and the rope was so taut

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between the whale and the ship that when they pulled
Ozyle back on the boat, he was still dry. So anyways,
wanted to throw a little family history in there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
That's fucking dope.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Yeah, he sailed on a boat called the Merlin, a
bark whaler called the Merlines yep out of New Bedford.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
That's a fucking man right there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
That's pretty awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
That's badass.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
But anyways, that's it, guys, thanks a lot for listening.
Glad you joined us, and uh, until next time, get
out there, find your spirits all

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
H