June 23, 2025 • 19 mins
In this week’s episode of Tales, Trails, and Taverns: Horror Movie Monday, Rob and Joe dive headfirst into the gore-soaked chaos of Terrifier (2016), the ultra-violent indie slasher that introduced audiences to the nightmarish Art the Clown.
We talk about the film’s roots, from Art’s early appearances in All Hallows’ Eve to his rise as a new cult horror icon. Rob digs into the insane practical effects and no-holds-barred brutality that sets Terrifier apart, while Joe looks at the film’s surprisingly low budget and how it managed to become a modern horror success.
We also explore how director Damien Leone's DIY approach, combined with David Howard Thornton’s terrifying performance, proves that independent creators can still make a huge impact in horror. For Rob, it’s a dose of inspiration—proof that even the most twisted vision can find its audience if you just take the leap.
Grimy, gruesome, and surprisingly motivating, this episode celebrates the terrifying joy of indie horror and the creators bold enough to bring their nightmares to life. Full spoilers ahead!
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We talk about the film’s roots, from Art’s early appearances in All Hallows’ Eve to his rise as a new cult horror icon. Rob digs into the insane practical effects and no-holds-barred brutality that sets Terrifier apart, while Joe looks at the film’s surprisingly low budget and how it managed to become a modern horror success.
We also explore how director Damien Leone's DIY approach, combined with David Howard Thornton’s terrifying performance, proves that independent creators can still make a huge impact in horror. For Rob, it’s a dose of inspiration—proof that even the most twisted vision can find its audience if you just take the leap.
Grimy, gruesome, and surprisingly motivating, this episode celebrates the terrifying joy of indie horror and the creators bold enough to bring their nightmares to life. Full spoilers ahead!
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/tales-trails-and-taverns--6437578/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Do the intro. This is your baby, man.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Okay, well, I'm so used to you fucking doing it.
The killers were fucking demented.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Your paralyzed from the neck down because I didn't have
any duct tape or rope.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And then he sticks the guy's head and a microwave.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Somebody tried to mess with his daughter and dad killed everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
If I'm putting the same shoes, I'm probably doing the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well, I wasn't gonna watch the radio one, and.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's saying a lot considering that he ended up getting
the film band in the fucking new.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Cat fucking diabolical.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So welcome back to another episode of Horror Movie Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We're doing.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Uh, we decided to throw this one back a little.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh my god, what's happening?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
No, we're fine, none, Oh my god. Anyways, I thought
something was wrong with the recording and I was like,
oh my god, what's happening.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
This is nothing. I just backed out of it.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So far I can't see it a good man. Anyways,
we're doing. We decided to go ahead and do Terrifier
because Arc the clown is everyone's favorite clown, and I
think we can agree that he was before I even
saw this movie. He was a social media icon and
a horror icon almost right out of the gate, right.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Pretty much? I mean, uh, it's safe to say that
the second one really so like the first Terrifier movie.
How far back do you want me to.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Go with this? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Let's let's start with Terrifier.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Jeamie and Leoni, the creator of Art the Cloud and
the Terrifier franchise. Yeah, the director.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Hold, okay, all right, so let's start. We'll start with
the We'll start with the movie first of all.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
In order to start with the movie, I gotta get
into how artha clown became a thing?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
All right, Well, let's start with Terrifiers of twenty sixteen
American slasher film, written, editing, co produced by Damian Leoni,
like you said, produced Phil Falcone, starring Jennet Kanal, Samantha Scaffiti.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Scaffini, yes, she plays Victoria.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Katherine corthorand David Howard Thornton. David Howard Thornton met him too.
Eighty five minutes long, Like I said, twenty sixteen, and
what else is there?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Fun fat? The budget for the movie was thirty five
thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, that's what I was looking for, said it said,
terrified gross total of four hundred and twenty one thousand,
seven h ninety eight in the box office after for
how much of a thirty five.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
K thirty five thousand to produce it?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Wow? So what happened was Okay, David Howard fall and
came up with this this creation. He put him in
his first movie he ever made, which is The Ninth Circle.
There was just a creepy clown that annoyed this girl
who was waiting to take the subway in New York City.
(03:34):
That was He was in that film for maybe two minutes.
And then the second movie he made, Damian Leoni ever
made was was All Halis Eve in twenty twenty thirteen,
and that was a anthology film, so it was like
four different little segments to that one. And the final
(03:54):
like horror segment of that movie was like a fifteen
to twenty minute short of Art the Clown And when
people saw that in the indie circuit, they went nuts
for this Art the Clown guy. So David was like,
all right, well, you know, I've already fucked with this
clown thing twice and my you know, diehard cult following
(04:19):
fans really like this art the clown guy, so now
I'm going to make a whole movie on it. He
when he went to go make this movie, he didn't
have any money at all, so he tried raising money
through like indie Gogo and fucking all these other things,
and then he ended up bumping into this guy, Phil
(04:40):
fal Cone, and he's like a retired like stockbroker or
some shit, and he wanted to get into the movie business.
So he's retired, and David Howlett thartonwell, he was trying
to fish around and scrape some money to make this
terrifying movie. This guy Phil Foulcone is just like because
(05:03):
people don't know this too, like in the first Terrifier
and in the second one, Damie and Leoni does all
the special effects too. Yeah, So he talked to Phil Falcone,
and Philip fal Cone's like, dude, I'll give you the
thirty five grand tomorrow, Like I just can I be
on the set and work with you and learn how
(05:23):
you do all that special effects shit, you know what
I mean. So the guy was like fuck yeah, like
I'll teach you how to do it, Like you're gonna
give me the thirty five ka fuck it. So that
was that, and that was the first adaptation of Art
the Clown in the first Terrifier. Yeah, which we now
(05:46):
everybody knows now that the second one and the third
ones come out that it's a pretty big fucking deal man,
and that that four hundred thousand that you mentioned. Yeah, so, uh,
it did have a like a brief runtime in the
movie theaters. It didn't it didn't make too much in
the movie theaters. But he ended up scoring a Netflix
(06:10):
deal for two hundred thousand dollars. And so that's actually
including that four hundred thousand. Yes, that's made. So when
when damian Naoni he approached Netflix, they saw it and
they offered him like two hundred thousand dollars to you know,
(06:31):
display it on Netflix. Nice, so they brought bought the streaming.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Rights for it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So the movie itself, okay, we're first introduced to Art
the Clown. He's fucking creepy as fuck. He's uh, he's
a mime clown. He's in all black and white. His
his face is very like his face and his cheek
(06:59):
bones are very like pointed, and he almost counts like
a like a demon, almost very pronounced. He's got creepy
like black green teeth. It doesn't talk at all. And
so the premises of the whole, the first terrifier is
(07:19):
it's two girls they're drunk that come they it's Halloween night,
they're leaving the Halloween party that they were at. They
realize that they're too drunke to drive, so they want
to go sober up and eat some pizza at a
pizza shop.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Then while they're waiting at the car, these girls see
these this really creepy clown fucking you know, just kind
of staring at them off in the distance. And one
of the main girl's twa, she's kind of freaked out, like,
what's this clown he's staring at us. He's got like
a trash bag full of god knows what thrown over
(08:01):
his shoulder. And then then they her friend Dawn like
is making jokes and then when finally they look back
and the clown's gone. So it's like, okay, So that
was the first introduction to the clown in the movie. Yeah,
fast forward, the girls are at a pizza shop and
they're waiting for their food and ark the clown comes
(08:24):
in the pizza shop. And we see him again for
a second time, and he's very fucking creepy. He's making
creepy faces, like really fucking with Tara's psyche and Dawn,
who's more of a what do you call it, like
(08:45):
a prognostic pragmatic, pragmatic type of personality, She goes over
and starts taking selfies with him and like good and
she's just like fucking n well. The guy gets up,
buys a ring, gives gives Tara the ring, goes in
(09:06):
the bathroom, does only God knows what ends up getting
kicked out of the pizza joy that's the end of
That's the end of art in that scene. And then
uh so the girls eat the pizza they leave. Turns
out the reason why they kicked kicked the Clara out
of the restaurant is he's ship and put stuff all
(09:27):
over the fucking he put ship and piss all over
the fucking walls of this pizza place's bathroom. The guy
there's two guys working at the owner and an employee,
and he makes his employee clean the ship and piss
all over the walls. He's pissed off that he has
to do this. He's yelling at his boss. He comes
(09:49):
out and he finds his boss's decapitated head sitting on
top of the counter with flame coming out of it,
like almost like a Jack o'lannard, And he goes and
reaches for the phone and Art comes by with a
big fucking hatchet and just fucking chops his hand. Write
(10:10):
the fuck off.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, So it's pretty obvious going through this that it's
a true to life slasher film. Like it's very very
much a slasher film. So, I mean, like, and you
were saying that Damian Leoni did all the special effects
for this, right.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yes, he did it for that, that one and the
second one.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So I mean, I guess let's talk about that. I mean,
is that those are what the hell do you call
those type of special effects?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Oh? Those are old school tests special effects with the latex.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Right, it's none of it's CGI, none of that.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
C g I at all. It's all it's all latex,
fake blood, fake fake limbs, fake a lot of everything.
It's pretty much how they did did it back in
the seventies and eighties. Bro.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, And I mean some of these, some of these
scenes were extremely gruesomey Joe.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So the fun fact the first time I ever saw
this fucking movie. I had COVID in July of twenty twenty,
right for the first time I ever had it, and
I was on Quarantine and I got bored bro, and
I went on YouTube and I said, I typed in
ten most gruesome, glorious horror movies of all time. I
(11:30):
literally plugged that into YouTube, and know what movie came up?
Number one? Terrifier.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So I was like, okay, so that's number one, so
I'm gonna watch it. So I literally watched it in
July of twenty twenty, and fast forward to October of
twenty twenty two, when Terrified Part two was coming out.
I was like, oh, fuck, yeah, I'm gonna watch it
(12:00):
because I watched the first one and I thought it
was cool as fuck, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, And it was already it was already a few
years old when when you saw it in twenty twenty
two came out in twenty sixteen, so kind of kind
of underrated at first. It took a little while to
catch steam it did.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It had a calt like following. I joked around when
when I went last May and visited all everyone except
Damian Leoni, the director. Yeah, I kind of joked and
I said, I feel like I'm ahead of the pack here.
And I said that to Samanthascaffeini, the final girl in
(12:38):
the first one, and she's like, what do you mean.
I'm like, I saw this in twenty twenty, I saw
this before it went to the movie theaters, and you
was just getting all the rave about people puking and
passing out in movie theaters, you know what I mean.
She's like, oh, okay, yeah, I get it. So you're
like a diehard, That's what she told me.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, So, I mean what makes stand out from everything else?
Besides I mean obviously the low budget, the the special
effects being you know what they are as as good
as they are for what they are, you know, the
practical effects. Yeah, because he used you know, he used
(13:18):
practical effects.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
He used real I said.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Like they did it in the eighties slashers.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
So as far as your movie that you're doing that,
you're you know, spoiler alert. Everybody who's been listening to
this show for a while, Rob is making his own movie.
Is there some was there some influence for Terrifier as
as far as what you want to do with your
movie or where you want to go with that or
what inspired you?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
It inspired me a lot. I saw a lot of
interviews of Jamie and Leonie just talk about like his
his process and his love for fucking movies as a child,
and like, you know, he was lucky enough when he
graduated high school he knew what he loved and what
(14:08):
he wanted to do. I didn't quite know that yet,
but kind of like circling back to the wagon, I
when I started writing the screenplay for the movie that
I'm about to do, and it's gonna be very glory,
so that that end of it is definitely highly inspired
(14:30):
by Terrifier. Yeah, I was just like, man, like all
I ever do is watch a million movies. I can
memorize movies. I quote them, I know the songs they
play in the fucking movies. I know fucking I can
go line for line and a lot of movies with
people like I love movies, Like why not fucking make one?
(14:53):
You know what I mean? Like, so yeah, man, like
Terrifier definitely did. And then not only that, when I
saw what they could, when I looked at it and
I was like, man, he made that with thirty five grand,
Like that's fucking pretty fucking kick ass dude, Like, yeah,
(15:14):
it's it's it's inspirational to me. I always moving forward
ever since I wrote the screenplay, which is done by
the way, folks, the movie is in the works. Another spoiler.
But uh I every movie I look at now, I
always look at the budget, Yeah, because I'm like, okay,
(15:36):
this is good, but what what was the budget?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, especially seeing, especially seeing you know, thirty five to
fifty five for a film that does as well, that
has garnered as much attention as terrifying as it's absolutely
for an independent filmmaker, that's super inspirational, right, very It's.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
A comedy of of of listening to a lot of
interviews with Damian Leoni. Kevin Smith is another one. Yeah,
you know he made Clerks with twenty seven thousand, and
I would say my third inspiration is probably Robert Rodriguez,
who made El Mariachi for seven five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Oh right, yeah, I remember telling talked about that movie made.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
A two million dollar profit in box offices.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So talk about really stretching your dollar as a fucking director,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Right, so those Yeah, those three guys are probably on
my mount rushmore of of inspiration as far as filmmakers. Yeah,
terrifying one does not disappoint. It's fucking, it's gnarly, it's wild.
This girl she has to go to the bathroom. She
ends up getting caught in this abandoned house, arn't. The
(16:57):
clown kills the pizza people, and then he decides to
go into this what's like an abandoned building, and he
terrorizes Tara, chases her all up and down, stabs her
with multiple of his weapons, and he's trying to kill her,
and at some point he hits her with a hypodermic needle,
(17:22):
makes her unconscious. When she wakes up, she's tied to
a chair. And that's the infamous Joe. If you want
to walk us through the infamous upside down hack sau.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Scene, No, I don't. I don't think we've got to
discuss that. That that scene kind of speaks for herself.
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I don't want to ruin it.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
But I mean, my thing, my thing with out of
the clown is the only thing I don't I mean,
I don't understand if he's human, if he's supernatural in
some way super powerful.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
The end of the movie kind of alludes to the
fact that he just he's not human in the fact
that he gets shot a couple of times and kind
of disappears. Does the whole I think sort of like
the Jason Vorhees staying where he kind of comes back
from something. Oh yeah, we're not sure if he's what
he is at the end, you know, it sort of
(18:13):
seems like he's a normal person at first. He just
doesn't talk, and it also adds to the creepiness that
he doesn't say a fucking word the entire time in
this movie.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
He doesn't say a word in any of the Terrifiers.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Well, I haven't I haven't watched all the Terrifiers. I've
only watched the first one. But yeah, he doesn't. He
doesn't say a word in it. I was reading something that.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
That they choose.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
They chose the coloring, the black and white coloring, to
make sure that he was distinguished from other clowns like
Penny Wise. Yeah, you know, so he definitely has his
own vibe, definitely has his own thing going on. So, yeah,
we're gonna wrap this up. Terrifier definitely a top horror movie.
Definitely a new uh, you know, a new part of
(18:59):
the horror when there's not going away anytime soon. Definitely
not and an inspiration to you know, low budget, low
income filmmakers, guys who are just starting out, guys who
want to break into the scene, all that stuff, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yap so fucking league. And if you haven't seen it,
go see it.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Go see it. Great movie.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
All right, thanks guys, thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Have a great night.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
SA
Do the intro. This is your baby, man.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Okay, well, I'm so used to you fucking doing it.
The killers were fucking demented.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Your paralyzed from the neck down because I didn't have
any duct tape or rope.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And then he sticks the guy's head and a microwave.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Somebody tried to mess with his daughter and dad killed everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
If I'm putting the same shoes, I'm probably doing the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well, I wasn't gonna watch the radio one, and.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's saying a lot considering that he ended up getting
the film band in the fucking new.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Cat fucking diabolical.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So welcome back to another episode of Horror Movie Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We're doing.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Uh, we decided to throw this one back a little.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh my god, what's happening?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
No, we're fine, none, Oh my god. Anyways, I thought
something was wrong with the recording and I was like,
oh my god, what's happening.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
This is nothing. I just backed out of it.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So far I can't see it a good man. Anyways,
we're doing. We decided to go ahead and do Terrifier
because Arc the clown is everyone's favorite clown, and I
think we can agree that he was before I even
saw this movie. He was a social media icon and
a horror icon almost right out of the gate, right.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Pretty much? I mean, uh, it's safe to say that
the second one really so like the first Terrifier movie.
How far back do you want me to.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Go with this? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Let's let's start with Terrifier.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Jeamie and Leoni, the creator of Art the Cloud and
the Terrifier franchise. Yeah, the director.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Hold, okay, all right, so let's start. We'll start with
the We'll start with the movie first of all.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
In order to start with the movie, I gotta get
into how artha clown became a thing?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
All right, Well, let's start with Terrifiers of twenty sixteen
American slasher film, written, editing, co produced by Damian Leoni,
like you said, produced Phil Falcone, starring Jennet Kanal, Samantha Scaffiti.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Scaffini, yes, she plays Victoria.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Katherine corthorand David Howard Thornton. David Howard Thornton met him too.
Eighty five minutes long, Like I said, twenty sixteen, and
what else is there?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Fun fat? The budget for the movie was thirty five
thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, that's what I was looking for, said it said,
terrified gross total of four hundred and twenty one thousand,
seven h ninety eight in the box office after for
how much of a thirty five.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
K thirty five thousand to produce it?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Wow? So what happened was Okay, David Howard fall and
came up with this this creation. He put him in
his first movie he ever made, which is The Ninth Circle.
There was just a creepy clown that annoyed this girl
who was waiting to take the subway in New York City.
(03:34):
That was He was in that film for maybe two minutes.
And then the second movie he made, Damian Leoni ever
made was was All Halis Eve in twenty twenty thirteen,
and that was a anthology film, so it was like
four different little segments to that one. And the final
(03:54):
like horror segment of that movie was like a fifteen
to twenty minute short of Art the Clown And when
people saw that in the indie circuit, they went nuts
for this Art the Clown guy. So David was like,
all right, well, you know, I've already fucked with this
clown thing twice and my you know, diehard cult following
(04:19):
fans really like this art the clown guy, so now
I'm going to make a whole movie on it. He
when he went to go make this movie, he didn't
have any money at all, so he tried raising money
through like indie Gogo and fucking all these other things,
and then he ended up bumping into this guy, Phil
(04:40):
fal Cone, and he's like a retired like stockbroker or
some shit, and he wanted to get into the movie business.
So he's retired, and David Howlett thartonwell, he was trying
to fish around and scrape some money to make this
terrifying movie. This guy Phil Foulcone is just like because
(05:03):
people don't know this too, like in the first Terrifier
and in the second one, Damie and Leoni does all
the special effects too. Yeah, So he talked to Phil Falcone,
and Philip fal Cone's like, dude, I'll give you the
thirty five grand tomorrow, Like I just can I be
on the set and work with you and learn how
(05:23):
you do all that special effects shit, you know what
I mean. So the guy was like fuck yeah, like
I'll teach you how to do it, Like you're gonna
give me the thirty five ka fuck it. So that
was that, and that was the first adaptation of Art
the Clown in the first Terrifier. Yeah, which we now
(05:46):
everybody knows now that the second one and the third
ones come out that it's a pretty big fucking deal man,
and that that four hundred thousand that you mentioned. Yeah, so, uh,
it did have a like a brief runtime in the
movie theaters. It didn't it didn't make too much in
the movie theaters. But he ended up scoring a Netflix
(06:10):
deal for two hundred thousand dollars. And so that's actually
including that four hundred thousand. Yes, that's made. So when
when damian Naoni he approached Netflix, they saw it and
they offered him like two hundred thousand dollars to you know,
(06:31):
display it on Netflix. Nice, so they brought bought the streaming.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Rights for it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So the movie itself, okay, we're first introduced to Art
the Clown. He's fucking creepy as fuck. He's uh, he's
a mime clown. He's in all black and white. His
his face is very like his face and his cheek
(06:59):
bones are very like pointed, and he almost counts like
a like a demon, almost very pronounced. He's got creepy
like black green teeth. It doesn't talk at all. And
so the premises of the whole, the first terrifier is
(07:19):
it's two girls they're drunk that come they it's Halloween night,
they're leaving the Halloween party that they were at. They
realize that they're too drunke to drive, so they want
to go sober up and eat some pizza at a
pizza shop.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Then while they're waiting at the car, these girls see
these this really creepy clown fucking you know, just kind
of staring at them off in the distance. And one
of the main girl's twa, she's kind of freaked out, like,
what's this clown he's staring at us. He's got like
a trash bag full of god knows what thrown over
(08:01):
his shoulder. And then then they her friend Dawn like
is making jokes and then when finally they look back
and the clown's gone. So it's like, okay, So that
was the first introduction to the clown in the movie. Yeah,
fast forward, the girls are at a pizza shop and
they're waiting for their food and ark the clown comes
(08:24):
in the pizza shop. And we see him again for
a second time, and he's very fucking creepy. He's making
creepy faces, like really fucking with Tara's psyche and Dawn,
who's more of a what do you call it, like
(08:45):
a prognostic pragmatic, pragmatic type of personality, She goes over
and starts taking selfies with him and like good and
she's just like fucking n well. The guy gets up,
buys a ring, gives gives Tara the ring, goes in
(09:06):
the bathroom, does only God knows what ends up getting
kicked out of the pizza joy that's the end of
That's the end of art in that scene. And then
uh so the girls eat the pizza they leave. Turns
out the reason why they kicked kicked the Clara out
of the restaurant is he's ship and put stuff all
(09:27):
over the fucking he put ship and piss all over
the fucking walls of this pizza place's bathroom. The guy
there's two guys working at the owner and an employee,
and he makes his employee clean the ship and piss
all over the walls. He's pissed off that he has
to do this. He's yelling at his boss. He comes
(09:49):
out and he finds his boss's decapitated head sitting on
top of the counter with flame coming out of it,
like almost like a Jack o'lannard, And he goes and
reaches for the phone and Art comes by with a
big fucking hatchet and just fucking chops his hand. Write
(10:10):
the fuck off.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, So it's pretty obvious going through this that it's
a true to life slasher film. Like it's very very
much a slasher film. So, I mean, like, and you
were saying that Damian Leoni did all the special effects
for this, right.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yes, he did it for that, that one and the
second one.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So I mean, I guess let's talk about that. I mean,
is that those are what the hell do you call
those type of special effects?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Oh? Those are old school tests special effects with the latex.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Right, it's none of it's CGI, none of that.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
C g I at all. It's all it's all latex,
fake blood, fake fake limbs, fake a lot of everything.
It's pretty much how they did did it back in
the seventies and eighties. Bro.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, And I mean some of these, some of these
scenes were extremely gruesomey Joe.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So the fun fact the first time I ever saw
this fucking movie. I had COVID in July of twenty twenty,
right for the first time I ever had it, and
I was on Quarantine and I got bored bro, and
I went on YouTube and I said, I typed in
ten most gruesome, glorious horror movies of all time. I
(11:30):
literally plugged that into YouTube, and know what movie came up?
Number one? Terrifier.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So I was like, okay, so that's number one, so
I'm gonna watch it. So I literally watched it in
July of twenty twenty, and fast forward to October of
twenty twenty two, when Terrified Part two was coming out.
I was like, oh, fuck, yeah, I'm gonna watch it
(12:00):
because I watched the first one and I thought it
was cool as fuck, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, And it was already it was already a few
years old when when you saw it in twenty twenty
two came out in twenty sixteen, so kind of kind
of underrated at first. It took a little while to
catch steam it did.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It had a calt like following. I joked around when
when I went last May and visited all everyone except
Damian Leoni, the director. Yeah, I kind of joked and
I said, I feel like I'm ahead of the pack here.
And I said that to Samanthascaffeini, the final girl in
(12:38):
the first one, and she's like, what do you mean.
I'm like, I saw this in twenty twenty, I saw
this before it went to the movie theaters, and you
was just getting all the rave about people puking and
passing out in movie theaters, you know what I mean.
She's like, oh, okay, yeah, I get it. So you're
like a diehard, That's what she told me.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, So, I mean what makes stand out from everything else?
Besides I mean obviously the low budget, the the special
effects being you know what they are as as good
as they are for what they are, you know, the
practical effects. Yeah, because he used you know, he used
(13:18):
practical effects.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
He used real I said.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Like they did it in the eighties slashers.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
So as far as your movie that you're doing that,
you're you know, spoiler alert. Everybody who's been listening to
this show for a while, Rob is making his own movie.
Is there some was there some influence for Terrifier as
as far as what you want to do with your
movie or where you want to go with that or
what inspired you?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
It inspired me a lot. I saw a lot of
interviews of Jamie and Leonie just talk about like his
his process and his love for fucking movies as a child,
and like, you know, he was lucky enough when he
graduated high school he knew what he loved and what
(14:08):
he wanted to do. I didn't quite know that yet,
but kind of like circling back to the wagon, I
when I started writing the screenplay for the movie that
I'm about to do, and it's gonna be very glory,
so that that end of it is definitely highly inspired
(14:30):
by Terrifier. Yeah, I was just like, man, like all
I ever do is watch a million movies. I can
memorize movies. I quote them, I know the songs they
play in the fucking movies. I know fucking I can
go line for line and a lot of movies with
people like I love movies, Like why not fucking make one?
(14:53):
You know what I mean? Like, so yeah, man, like
Terrifier definitely did. And then not only that, when I
saw what they could, when I looked at it and
I was like, man, he made that with thirty five grand,
Like that's fucking pretty fucking kick ass dude, Like, yeah,
(15:14):
it's it's it's inspirational to me. I always moving forward
ever since I wrote the screenplay, which is done by
the way, folks, the movie is in the works. Another spoiler.
But uh I every movie I look at now, I
always look at the budget, Yeah, because I'm like, okay,
(15:36):
this is good, but what what was the budget?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, especially seeing, especially seeing you know, thirty five to
fifty five for a film that does as well, that
has garnered as much attention as terrifying as it's absolutely
for an independent filmmaker, that's super inspirational, right, very It's.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
A comedy of of of listening to a lot of
interviews with Damian Leoni. Kevin Smith is another one. Yeah,
you know he made Clerks with twenty seven thousand, and
I would say my third inspiration is probably Robert Rodriguez,
who made El Mariachi for seven five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Oh right, yeah, I remember telling talked about that movie made.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
A two million dollar profit in box offices.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So talk about really stretching your dollar as a fucking director,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Right, so those Yeah, those three guys are probably on
my mount rushmore of of inspiration as far as filmmakers. Yeah,
terrifying one does not disappoint. It's fucking, it's gnarly, it's wild.
This girl she has to go to the bathroom. She
ends up getting caught in this abandoned house, arn't. The
(16:57):
clown kills the pizza people, and then he decides to
go into this what's like an abandoned building, and he
terrorizes Tara, chases her all up and down, stabs her
with multiple of his weapons, and he's trying to kill her,
and at some point he hits her with a hypodermic needle,
(17:22):
makes her unconscious. When she wakes up, she's tied to
a chair. And that's the infamous Joe. If you want
to walk us through the infamous upside down hack sau.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Scene, No, I don't. I don't think we've got to
discuss that. That that scene kind of speaks for herself.
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I don't want to ruin it.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
But I mean, my thing, my thing with out of
the clown is the only thing I don't I mean,
I don't understand if he's human, if he's supernatural in
some way super powerful.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
The end of the movie kind of alludes to the
fact that he just he's not human in the fact
that he gets shot a couple of times and kind
of disappears. Does the whole I think sort of like
the Jason Vorhees staying where he kind of comes back
from something. Oh yeah, we're not sure if he's what
he is at the end, you know, it sort of
(18:13):
seems like he's a normal person at first. He just
doesn't talk, and it also adds to the creepiness that
he doesn't say a fucking word the entire time in
this movie.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
He doesn't say a word in any of the Terrifiers.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Well, I haven't I haven't watched all the Terrifiers. I've
only watched the first one. But yeah, he doesn't. He
doesn't say a word in it. I was reading something that.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
That they choose.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
They chose the coloring, the black and white coloring, to
make sure that he was distinguished from other clowns like
Penny Wise. Yeah, you know, so he definitely has his
own vibe, definitely has his own thing going on. So, yeah,
we're gonna wrap this up. Terrifier definitely a top horror movie.
Definitely a new uh, you know, a new part of
(18:59):
the horror when there's not going away anytime soon. Definitely
not and an inspiration to you know, low budget, low
income filmmakers, guys who are just starting out, guys who
want to break into the scene, all that stuff, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yap so fucking league. And if you haven't seen it,
go see it.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Go see it. Great movie.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
All right, thanks guys, thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Have a great night.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
SA
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