6/6/25 - Mike Sarraille

Mike Sarraille joins The Anchormen.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Now it's time for the Anchormen podcast with Matt Yates
and Dan Ball. Hey, everybody, welcome in. Dan Ball here
alongside Riley Lewis. Welcome in to another Anchorman podcast. It's

(00:27):
been a wild week this week in politics in this country,
in the world, wars have increased. Unfortunately over in Eastern Europe,
the War of Words kicked off towards the end of
the week between two titans, two billionaires. Craziness kicked off

(00:53):
more on college campuses and what not, courtrooms with ice proceedings, deportations.
It's been It's a crazy time to be alive, Riley,
isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, it is, and I'm really grateful for it all.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, they're like, there's lots of content for talk shows
and podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
There is, and what a time to be in this field.
I mean wow, like really, it's it's it's a lot
and just to be an American. I don't know if
the founders ever expected us to get to a place
like this where we are right now. Well, they're a
lot slower back then.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
You know what, though, if you look at if you
look at some of their writings and you look at
the way they constructed everything, we use today when the Constitution,
the Bill, rights, and declaration, it all actually works pretty
well and makes a lot of sense well, and it's
impressive if you don't try to reinterpret it or try
to make it go your way, if you just read

(01:48):
it and adhere to it and follow it, it makes
a lot of sense. It does.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
And the fact that the system they built has stood
the test of time to your point is just it's remarkable,
and it's just it gives a window into how brilliant
that inspired those men were, I mean truly.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
And we always called them the old Founding fathers. You
know they weren't old, right, Yeah, Like who the oldest
one was it Adams or something? I forget that age.
I couldn't get it wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oled but yeah, Jefferson was like twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
They were all in their twenties. Franklin was maybe in
his thirties forty. But these were young men. They were very,
very smart for the times especially, and ambitious, and they
understood the importance of a constitutional republic, not democracy, because
they'd already seen even back two hundred fifty years ago,

(02:34):
democracies had failed because you can't allow the mob to rule,
and that's what liberals and the media don't get today
when they keep saying that, you know, this whole movement,
you and I are part of this America first, this
mega movement, that they think that we're the threat to democracy.
Yes we are. I agree with you. We are a

(02:57):
threat to democracy because of Maria is not a democracy,
and you all on the left want it to be
that way because you think you have the majority in
the country. One, you don't. Fifty one percent. I firmly
believe fifty one percent of this nation, especially fifty one
percent of the voting population, is not center left and
definitely not create you know, back crazy to the left.

(03:20):
And so your whole mindset of a democracy, which is
where mob rules, fifty one percent can rule forty nine one.
We're not that. Two. The country's not there. This country
center right, always has been, always will be. However, being
a constitutional republic, thank goodness, you can't have ninety nine
percent rule me. That's why it's supposed to be. Everybody

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has a voice, that's why we get the freedom of speech,
freedom of the press, right to assemble, peaceful, peaceful assemble.
That's how smart they were. I say all this, and
we kick this whole thing off, as we always do,
with a little warm up to catch up before we
get to our guests, Because we wouldn't have of a
constitutional republic if it were not for what the brave

(04:06):
men and women who have donned uniforms for two hundred
and fifty years and have said and pledged with their
hand on the Bible and their other hand in the air,
that I will protect this homeland, this beautiful constitutional republic,
the United States of America, against all enemies foreign in

(04:28):
these days, domestic, yes, which we have a lot.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Of, Oh, certainly we do. And look, there's an obvious
movement from the left to divide, to pit the American
people against each other, because that's the quickest way to
bring this republic down. They want to remake this place
in their own communistic, utopian image. And it's very frightening.
And so I think part of what we're seeing this
week is a very concerted effort to divide the American people, yep,
to pit us against each other. The rise in political violence,

(04:52):
the rise of really violent rhetoric. Look at what they
did to Trump on the campaign trail. They shot the
guy in the face.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
They got him more than well, and he would been
shot at more than once. Yes, right, because you got
the Ryan Ralph guy that was recruiting Ukrainian soldiers. He
wanted to get a Ukrainian sniper, he was looking at
trying to get rocket launchers and crap. You've got Iranian
hit death squads that are probably still here that want
Trump out. And then you have the nineteen twenty year

(05:19):
old from Butler that acted all alone.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Right, uh huh, No one's believing.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Allegedly who had offshore accounts and gets into a secure
area with a sniper rifle.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
AnyWho, and there was still no accountability for the huge
security failure that day.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Just to slap on right for Kimberly, it was all
Butler PD's fault and state troopers and.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Where the communications are gone, we can't go back and
talk about it, right, Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
So you have all that again, keep going back to
my point, great, amazing, best country on the planet, but
you don't stay free if you don't have people fighting
to keep us free. Yes, you know you had the
Germans that wanted well all Germans, you had Hitler, the
Nazis who obviously wanted world domination. The Japanese thought they

(06:06):
jump in back then you've had other comis over the decades,
try to influence and pedal. Now, of course the biggest
thing is China, and they can do it financially. They're
doing it on our college campuses, kind of like the
Middle East is doing it. Look how much money right
the Muslim world puts into our higher education in this
country to spew their garbage. And look at the crap

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you've got on college campuses. And no, I'm not throwing
every one billion Muslims or whatever under the bus. I'm
talking about the radical ones, which there are plenty of
that want what death to the West. They say it
all the time. They want all the Jews gone, and
they want all of America gone. It's convert or else.
I'm talking about them. So with all these threats again

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foreign and domestic, you need men and women and yes,
since this is called the Anchormen podcast, men you need
real men with massive you know cojones, Yes, mui grande?
Where else? Well?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
And to think our fighting force, there's so many volunteers
people are where else?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Do you see that on nowhere?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
We're a volunteer force. Come on, see that on earth?
Nowhere else? So clearly what we have is very special
and worth fighting for and worth protecting. And I would
like to think that we could all see that regardless
of your political differences on small stuff, America is the
greatest political experiment in human civilization. And if this country falls,
everything falls, that west, human rights, it all goes out

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the window. So we have to fight like hell to
protect what we have before it's gone, because once it is,
getting it back is just it's a non starter.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Oh, it'll never happen. Yeah, are you kidding me? So
many powerful entities around the globe for decades have prayed,
have fought for the demise of the good old Us
of A. Think about it, because we are that shining
city on the hill, right, that beacon of hope and light.
There's a reason that somewhere between twelve and eighteen million

(08:08):
illegals poured in under the Biden Harris regime because they
all wanted to get to America for different reasons, some
for the American dream, some to suckle off the American
teat and blow our tax money, and some to do
as harm. Yes, and right now, let me tell you
heard the warning that Tom Holman put out right and

(08:31):
Dan Bongino said it I think on Hannity this week.
Holman said it on my show the other day. It's
not if, guys, it's not if anymore, it's when. When
are we going to have another terror attack. I won't
say nine to eleven style, because I don't think we're
going to see it, you know, come in the form
of hijacked planes, because now we're on the lookout for that.

(08:54):
But there's many other ways, financial attack, a power grid attack,
or just point up you know, guns, bombs, knives, planes, trains,
and automobiles. If you've got fifteen million illegals, let's just
say one hundred thousand of them hate US, Riley hate
America for the core, and a thousand of them are

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from all Middle Eastern countries, so they have that all
in common. Or a thousand of them are all from China,
because we know that joeld In a few hundred thousand
militant age single men from China. So let's just say
it's one group. Think of the damage. A thousand really angry,
determined American hatan from any of those regions I mentioned

(09:40):
decided to one day attack us all at the same time. Yes,
you don't think a thousand people could do a hell
about a damage at a Super Bowl game.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, and the difference is what the founders dealt with
was tyranny from an external force from the British Empire.
This was its own colony. We had our own population,
our own culture. It's our own leaders who've been selling
us out for decades and decade aids who've compromised us.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
You've got Democrat leaders right now that are pushing hatred
on America. Ill on Omar and the squad, those ladies.
Can we censure them? Can we kick their asses out
of Congress. I'm so tired of hearing this anti American rhetoric.
This place was never great, you know, because Trump, of course,
Mega michemurg It was never great. We've never been great.

(10:23):
What's so great about it? What's so great about it?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
You're a fun't you ask all the refugees that have
come here from literally all over the world, like, are
you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
You're a fricking immigrant who came to this country and
then got elected by we the people. You get paid
one hundred and seventy nine thousand dollars to represent us,
and you go to our capital and then you bitch
and moan about how horrible America is, Why are you
even in office? Then get out?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, well they're in office to radically transform America.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
That's again going on.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
That's the real push right now is it's not just
left right Republican democratics, those who really want to preserve
what we had, what was built, and those who want
to radically transform it from the ground up. And I
think that they're facing a lot of pushback. That's what
this election was about. Obama came in five minutes before
he took off and said I will transform America. I
think he's been very successful in doing that. This this

(11:18):
this MAGA movement, the America First movement, this is the
pendulum swinging back. The way is Finally that's a Grinally.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
That's a great point. And you know what that's got
me thinking, Riley, think about how when the Obama erab
began right in eight and all through sixteen, how people
on the left and centrists, some conservatives, the media fell
in love with him. He was like the savior, Saint

(11:45):
Barack Obama, right, And what did the country that forget
the media, forget politicians. What did we the people do
after eight years of Obama the Savior? What did we do.
We rebuked that BS. We didn't go with a Republican.
We didn't go with another John McCain, right, We didn't

(12:09):
go with there George W. Bush. We didn't go with
any legacy Republican people. We and this again, this goes
to my point. I said ten minutes ago that this
country center right and conservative and Christian. It went, we're
so sick and tired of not only Barack but politicians
DC the swamp. We're gonna elect a billionaire, wild man,

(12:37):
playboy business, real estate developer, guy who bust balls on
both sides, who could buy every politician in that town,
who's not gonna listen to anybody and do whatever I want.
It's going to be huge. And we put Trump in
Think about that. Eight years of Obama. We didn't go,
oh no, that was too far to the left. Let's
get us a w type and elect his brother he

(12:59):
was up back in sixteen, right, Let's get jib in there. No,
Because to prove my point, Americans, the majority said no.
Then we get screwed in twenty on an election that
was rigged. And what do we do in twenty four
We come back and show you once again this country
is conservative, right, Yes, and we elect Trump a third time.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yes, we needed a disruptor of all the things. Trump
is being a disruptor to the status quo is exactly
what we needed. The people who go after him, they say, oh, well,
he's unhinged and uncontrollable. Wrong, He's just uncontrollable by the
corrupt interests. Yeah, we've been selling us out for decades.
Great point, and that's exactly why we put him back
in the office.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah. And I love that he says in tweets and
ex'es and truths and whatever it's called, whatever he wants.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, I know what I means, diffrectly with your own citizens.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
But you know what, it upsets so many people on
the conservative side that he's the president act more. I
wish he'd act more presidential. What does that even mean?
You want him to act more like Barack Obama? You
wanted to act more like George W. Bush. Well, yeah,
but they were refined and they didn't speak this way,
and they didn't make mean tweets. And yeah, they also
screwed this country over big time. They lied to you

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and me about stuff. They took us into endless wars
both sides. They blew trillions of our dollars, They spied
on us completely, they did all kinds of crap, and
you're upset because he doesn't act presidential Again. I will
take this all background to the beginning of this conversation
so we can get to our amazing guest tonight. We
wouldn't be able to sit here and piss and moan

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and complain about how things are being run if you
didn't have brave men and women down in those uniforms
and taking that oath and walking a fence line, stand
in a post and saying, whoever you are, commis in China,
radical Muslims from Iran, Pakistan, you name it, whether you're

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there and we got to fight you, or you're now
here thanks to Joe and Kamala, and we got to fight.
This is why we have the country we have because
an all volunteer force every year raises that hand and
says I will go in the defense of my nation
even if it cost me my life. And our guest
tonight is one of those badasses. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Excited, Oh, very excited and honored by the way. Truly,
I just want this person, like you said, it's easy
to take that kind of service, for granted, when you're
not the one having to risk your life and make sacrifices.
And that's why I don't like the warmongers and DC
the Lindsey Graham types who are just lobbing for war
all the time because they have no skin in the game.
So when you meet real heroes who put everything on

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the line, who put their money where their mouth is,
it's humbling and you have to recognize that and say
thank you, thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Well, I thought it was fitting to invite my buddy
on who I've jumped out of a plane with, who
I've had on the show now for several years, who
raised his right hand, who defended us, who all by
the way, reached one of the highest, hardest obtainable positions
in any of our branches a military. And when I

(16:06):
say that, I mean it like this next guest tonight
is a Navy seal. If any of you know anything
about the military branches and what it takes. Look, there's
pjs in the Air Force where I was in Paera
rescue meen. Pj's are special forces. You guys are badasses. Armies,
got your Rangers, your Green Beret, you are as well.
Marine you got Marine recon. There's tons of special forces

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out there, but let's be real, Navy Seals are typically
considered the krem de la krem right. We didn't. We
didn't send in some Air Force pjs, even though I'm
an Air Force guy and I love my PJS. To
kill Osama bin Laden. We send the seals. When you
want something done, you send the seals. Not to mention
they get trained. Oh, by the way, a few minutes

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right here from where the OA and studios are based
in San Diego out on Coronado Island where they have
the Special Warfare Division of the Navy. So the further Ado.
Because we're already fifteen minutes in, let's bring on my buddy,
Mike Sorelli, Navy Seal officer and commander. And if I
hopefully don't get it wrong, Mike used to be in
charge of because they're different numbers. He was the guy

(17:15):
over at Seal Team one, but you were with Nope,
different teams. Okay, see, I'm gonna let Mike tell the story.
We see and they get picky if you're wrong, which
teams were you on? Give me the numbers and which
ones did you were you in charge of Mike. Welcome,
by the way, brother, welcome.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Thank you, thank you, guys. Riley Dan happy to be here.
So I started out in the Marine Corps, and I've
got to take time to say that I was a recomerene.
It happened to become a scott sniper as well, switched
over to the Seal Team, served on the West coast,
and then was it Seal Team three, and then served
on the East coast at the seal teams over there

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as well, and did my twenty and then my time
was was up and there was a younger, better generation
coming behind me. Time to get out of the way Seal.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Team three, okay, to get it right. By the way,
we always hear about Seal Team six with the Osama
bin Ladin thing. How many teams are there? And do
the numbers go in order? Or did I hear some
rumor about you squids that years ago they skipped a
couple numbers just to scare the bad guys.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
There's truth behind that, okay, tell us that story off
the Russians. You've got the odd numbers on the West coast,
the even numbers on the East coast. Okay, but you know,
all extremely special and the Air Force, pj's, the CCTs,
the Green Berets, all the communities are great. If you
had to put put pig, you know, put the dream

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team together, you'd select from all those communities and throw
them together to create the dream team. So I don't
have a bad thing to say about any of the
special operations or combat arms communities throughout any service.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh no, listen, and I wasn't either, you know that, Mike.
I just it's it's kind of like the hype that
everybody does with the seals, right, And if I didn't
kiss up to a seal that was coming on, then
I'd feel bad. But no, hey, special operators from all branches,
if we didn't have them, we'd be in trouble because
you need them, and they've come through in so many missions.
You can go back and look. You know you've needed
Army Airborne because you need a whole bunch of guys
that wants to jump out of planes and go do something.

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You need those marine recon and snipers to go in
and take them out from hundreds and hundreds of yards away,
if not a thousand. You need pjs, the Air Force
guys that can jump out and get it done like
the Seals too, So all of our special operators are,
in my opinion, the best of the best on the planet.
I'm sure that the Brits say they got great MI six,
I'm sure that the Japanese got their special operators, and

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China things they got theirs too. But when it comes
to the best of the best, it's the United States military.
And Mike, I wanted to have you on a couple reasons. Right,
we just had Memorial Day Wars unfortunately seem to be
heating up recently, even though Trump's been doing his best
to try to stop them, especially with Ukraine and Russia
now China flexing on Taiwan. In the Middle East, God

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knows what's going to happen there with a Ran trying
to get nukes, and so who better to have on
than a guy who was also a commanding officer of troops,
because that there's a big burden, a big responsibility there
when it comes to taking young men and women to war.
So Mike, let's first start with your background. Tell folks
where Mike Sirelli comes from and how you get to

(20:23):
where you're at. You filled us in a little bit.
I didn't know that you started in the Core and
you were Marine recon and a sniper. You know, I
think you and I had this chat personally, that's what
I was going to go in and do. And then
I switched to combat camera combat journalism in the Air Force,
Like literally the day I was going to sign up
for the Core, I switched my whole future because of
a recruiter selling me a I want to say a

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bill of good because look where I am today. I
stayed with TV. Look what you're doing today. Obviously you
did the right thing. I did the right thing. But
go back to the teenage Mike, little Mikey, and tell
us how you became a seal so born.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
And raised in the Bay Area, very short, unsuccessful stint
in college metaphors econ marine. Who you know is just
that guy You're like, dude, I want to be like
that guy, and so, you know, took some advice from him,
enlisted in the Marine Corps, became a mariecon marine. The
Marines offered me a program to become an officer. This

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is prior to the g Watt in nine to eleven.
Not much was going on at the time, and other
some some Marines I highly respected, say hey, go get
your education, come back as an officer, effect more change.
So you know, while I was at college on the
Marine Corps dime the war kicked off, I went to
Marine OCS and made the decision to switch over to

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the Seals, which is department of the Navy, as is
the Marine Corps. So it was a lateral transfer, and
you know, it was a good call because the Marines
were not part of so common at the time in
the Global War, and terror was a conflict just fit
for special operations. Made no mistake about it. You know,
special operations don't win wars, they shaped them. But ultimately

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the guys that win wars is infantry on the ground.
In history has proven that.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Sure numbers, Yeah numbers.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Did my time on the West Coast with the seal teams,
did my time on the East coast, deployed a number
of times. I was not a commanding officer and got
out as a lieutenant commander, but I was a troop commander.
Probably the one of the highest spinnacles of my life
just getting to work with amazing men and women to
my left and right who were often more intelligent or yes,

(22:32):
and and higher performing than I was. But I just
was fortunate to be the guy that they called the
ground force commander, and make no mistake shape me who
I am today.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, smart people always put smart or smarter people around them, Mike, completely, completely. Yep.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
If you'd ask my grade school teachers if would have
ever amounted to anything, they'd probably say no, exactly. But
that's that's what the military does for our youth. I
need to discipline the Marine Corps definitely instill that taught
me the principles of leadership, team building, culture building, and
then I'll segued into a post military career.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Nice, can let me ask you a question real quick,
and then right, I'll let you throw the next one
at him, because this will probably get me in a
little trouble with the your your generation, Riley, the millennials
and the gen Zers. But you know, I'd like to see, Mike,
I'd like to see two years mandatory for all eighteen
year olds in America. They would learn. Let them pick
which branch, But if we made everybody go into the

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service for two years at eighteen years old instead of
college first and learn some damn patriotism and hard work
and like the things you just said, team building, Right, God,
honor country. Some of the basic principles you learned in
the Core and the Navy, I learned the Air Force.
I think we would have a better nation like yesterday

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if we made people go into the service first, especially Mike,
since let's be real college campuses these days and nothing
more than a America hate and liberal breeding ground. So
let me ask a veteran officer like yourself, would you
support putting American youth into the military for two years

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or some sort of service. Make them go do a
mission trip or work for the Peace Corps, do something
for two years.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
See what you're referring to as a obligated service mandate
what they call it conscription like Israel does.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Right, don't if you're Israeli you have to go serve
two years in the YEA, yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Do So you're definitely onto something. And you know, General
McCrystal has been promoting this or advocating for this for
for quite a long time. So you know, one, I
think people have a better appreciation for the freedoms that
we have and gives them the perspective as well. I mean,
world travel does that, especially when you go to third
world or war torn countries. It opens your aperture to

(24:57):
how good we have it here?

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Now you know, you look at PTSD rates amongst Israelis,
they're much lower, and a lot of them have seen
combat because almost the entire population is served. So even
from a psychological standpoint, you know, owers the post traumatic
stress of doing what we did over there. But I

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think it instills the discipline. People understand what it means
to work as a team, to be selfless. Yeah, which
we often lose within the American populast.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
That's key my compare to listen because today, let's be real,
we've created a lot of selfish young people. I'm not
saying folks fifteen older like myself and Mike aren't selfish too. Yes,
there's people in our generation. But because of the me,
me me, the everything. I got an iPhone, everything's about me, me,
I got my own social media page, it's about me,
people have forgotten that serving others and doing something that's

(25:53):
bigger than yourself. Let me tell you what, guys and
gals watching this podcast, that's a lot more rewarding in
life than I got three thousand clicks in two hundred
and seventy four comments today on my post. Yeah, yeah.
Let me tell you, Riley, Well.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I think the sort of the point you're both touching
on a generational difference. And this doesn't apply to all
young people, by the way, of course not. However, however,
this sense of entitlement and the arrogance and thinking and
just thinking that this is all just going to be
here forever, nothing bad could happen to America. It's not
worth fighting for. It's this could go go away tomorrow.

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Life is ephemeral, and we have to let me back up.
What I'm saying is, if we're not willing to fight
for this country, we could lose it. And if we're
not willing to fight, then maybe we deserve to lose it.
And I think a lot of people who just take
what we have for granted to your point, Mike, and
they don't understand just how precious and special this place
really is. And maybe if they did see how bad
things are in war torn Sedan or Somalia, then maybe

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they would.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Get that perspective.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, but there's also the practical element of having those
skills that transfer to business, that transfer to political leadership.
Some of the best people who are governing this country
have served. Look at someone like George Washington as a
great example. He he's a large part of the reason
we're here today. He went toe to toe with the
British after serving for them for twenty years. He led
the revolution against them. And that's what made him the

(27:11):
perfect president. He had real skin in the game and
he understood how hard it was to get this country
off the ground. Yeah, so he governed it well. He
valued his citizenry, he protected the republic that was baked
into the cake form because he had real skin in
the game. Now, we have a lot of leaders, respectfully
in Washington who haven't done that, and they just they've
run this country into the ground and they don't seem

(27:32):
to understand.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Oh don't say respectfully. There's a whole bunch of them,
majority of them that are self serving pieces of.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
An I just don't want to personally indict people, will
I think some of the I don't think it's surprising
when you look through history that some of the most
effective and transformational leaders our veterans, are veterans. Yeah, people
who've served even on the front lines, like George Washing.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Businesses, Mike, you know this, businesses when they first see
and it's not just to get a tax creditor or whatever,
even though some do it for that reason. But a
lot of businesses want to hire veterans because to your
point what they just said and what Mike said, if
you want an employee that's going to be disciplined, show
up on time, do their damn job. Yes, are you
going to hire a college dropout? Are you going to
hire a military vet? You're gonna hear somebody like Mike

(28:15):
who's done what Mike's done in his career. If you're
looking for, like, you know, maybe a chief operating officer
of your company, I'm gonna call a guy like Mike
who has commanded troops, who got his degree through who
switched and went up, up, up up the ladder from
Marines to Navy to seal. I mean, come on, right, Mike.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
So you know it's funny you guys mentioned that. Look
at World War Two alone, that generation, the greatest generation,
came home. They built the economy to what it is today.
What's the common threat? They all had military service, boom,
they all principles, core values, leadership again, teamwork. But let
me push against you guys on this one, and this
is a good one. So what a lot of time

(28:55):
you're thinking this, and I named it the generation Game.
So I remember coming into the Corps, we still had
a few Vietnam Era Marines, you had the Panama Granada,
you had the First Gulf War, you had Samalia guys
who were my sniper instructors, and we got called some
pretty pretty awful things. And there are the audience. It

(29:17):
finally hit me when I was checking into the University
of Texas for my final tour with the ROTC before
I retired, and talking to the other instructors that were
making fun of the other generation skinny skinny gens safe spaces,
and I wasn't really in the mood for it at
the time because I had just freshly driven without stopping

(29:39):
from Virginia Beach, and it dawned to me. I'm like, Okay,
this is the generation game. And so talking to a
VA psychologist who actually did research on this, the Vietnam
era veterans felt the shame or neglect or contempt from
the World War Two. In Korean veterans, each generation does

(30:00):
it to the next generation. But let me say this,
we've just seen the Army hit their recruiting quota for
twenty twenty five with like four months left.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Ah, you're going on my next questions, keep going.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
This generation, this generation is smarter, they're stronger, they're faster.
There may be fewer, but I have no doubt that
if a conflict on a world magnitude were to ignite,
that we would have young men and women raising their
right hand. And my nephew just graduated Navy boot camp.
I won't tell you what he's going on to do,

(30:34):
but he's going through it right now. And he's a stud,
all six you know, six feet two inches of them.
He just has this desire to serve his country.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
So generally disagree with you, I'll push back a bit.
I think the only reason we hit recruiting numbers now
is because we also had a regime change, and now
we have an administration with a real commander in chief
who doesn't want to get us in endless wars and
actually respects the military. And before we had an auto
pen and we had no idea who was running the country.

(31:05):
I think people thought we were on the brink of
tons of wars, even though I know it still looks
like that today, Trump at least is trying to de escalate.
You didn't see Biden trying to de escalate. You didn't
have a sec deaf. I don't think in Lloyd Austin
and a commander in chief that young eighteen, seventeen, nineteen
year olds could look up to and want to join.

(31:26):
So let's get into those recruiting numbers, because we've got
a headline after headline. That's one of the main reasons
I wanted you on this week, Mike, is because, as
he just said, the Army exceeded recruiting goals and it's
only June. For the last four years and last year especially,
we couldn't meet recruiting goals under Biden. Matter of fact,
the only branch that met recruiting goals last year, Mike,

(31:48):
and you know which one, because their numbers are lower.
Plus let's be real, marines are always badasses, was the
Marine Corps because men want to be Marines. Now everybody goes, Okay,
I'm gonna go on the I'm gonna go on the Navy,
and their numbers are lower to get up to their
numbers they need. So the Marine Corps was the only
one that met goals the last couple of years under Joe. Now,

(32:09):
not just the Army, but it appears all branches are
on track to meet goals and it's only June. So again,
what a difference a sect deaf and a commander in
chief make because it's the same generation it was last year,
but now they're signing up. Mike.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, there is a fundamental truth. And I don't care
if it pertains to the military or the private sector
of the business world. People don't want to work for
bad leaders. There, he goes, here's who are going to
detigrate the US or And here's the thing. The administrations
previous to Trump tried to enact social experiments on the military.

(32:47):
I believe it was General Dumford, former chairman and the
Joint Chiefs, wrote an article about how the cultures between
the civilian sector and the military are different and they
have to be that way for a reason. Yes, so
we looked at why do I join. I'm gonna tell
you this, Rarely did I ever hear anyone say I
just joined to get a free college education. They wanted adventure,
They had a sense of patriotism of wanting to serve

(33:10):
something beyond themselves. But they weren't doing it for DEI.
They were doing it to learn leadership. Some skills, And
the thing is, these young men and women want to
be part of something. They want to be part of
a tribe. I've never seen a culture where I sent

(33:30):
such homecoming and belonging as the military, not before the military,
and especially not at.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Oh totally agree. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry Google and all
you Silicon Valley folks with your funky, cool little buildings,
with your sleeping pods and your games and your lunch
breaks and your four day work weeks where everybody's like,
we're so happy and productivity went up and we're chilling now.
I know, I'll take you to a base and you
want to talk about camaraderie and brotherhood and sisterhood and

(33:57):
hard ass work and determination, work ethic, getting the job done.
One hundred and ten percent, going above and beyond, being
able to adapt, improvise, overcome. That's the military, sorry, Silicon
Valley and big corporation. And I agree with you, Mike,
one hundred percent. The cultures need to be separated. The
military is no place, as sectf HEC says of their day,

(34:20):
it is no place for a social experiment. And as
he said, so pardon my language, we're done with that shit.
We don't need people in dresses. We don't need our
warriors in classrooms every day learning about pronouns. We need
you out there on your battleships, testing your war systems.
We need you fighter pilots flying every day in close maneuvers,

(34:41):
ready for war. We need you guys repairing tank treads
so when one gets blown up in battle on the field,
you can fix it in a heart beat under fire.
We don't need you going I'm sorry, did I offend
you because I didn't use the right pronoun? Are you
transitioning currently? Can we pay for that with our tax dollars? Well?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
I think though the fill shophical point there, Mike. I
really want your thoughts on this too. One thing I
hear from a lot of veterans is the sense of
camaraderie and the sense of unity amen, something we're sorely
lacking in civil society and America today, because when it
comes to China, North Korea, Iran, Russia, they all they
look at all Americans, regardless of party, the same way.
We are the enemy in the eyes of the Taliban.

(35:20):
That does not matter, And you need that unity in
the forces. Whereas you have these concepts like ti crt
that are just inherently divisive. They're tearing this country apart.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
They're racist. I'm sorry, but DEI is race.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
It is racist, and you can't and when you're competing
at that level and the stakes are that high, there's
no room for anything that's going to break apart the
unity or undermine.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Right, we don't have enough minority generals, So we're gonna
make more four star, three star, two star, one star
generals from people of color because you don't have enough. No, no, no.
Hold on the military is merit based, right, Mike. If
you deserve it, and you busted your hump and you
put in your twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five, you
get it. You don't get it at ten, twelve, fifteen
because you're a different color or gender. Of course not.

(36:01):
But that's what they've been doing under the Biden regime
and under Obama, and it has no place in the military. Mic,
but so also, Mike.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
So when it does come to these these kind of
let's just call it wokeness, do we see the pendulum
swinging back the other way because under the previous administration
that was a major priority. I'm hoping that that's been deprioritized.
I know Hexat's been very clear no more room for
that crap. I just want to know if that's being in.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Braced, is it happening. You still have all your contacts
in the special operator field. What are you hearing from
the guys still in working it today, not from the
mouthpieces on CNN, Fox and the networks.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Well, guys, sorry, I wasn't listening. I was finishing up
my application for Google. I didn't know they had sleep
pods or four day out work they do.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Have you not seen that crap?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
It's very joking. Yeah, they got spoil. Yeah, you're you're
seeing the pendulum swing. I mean we're seeing that by
the recruiting numbers, we're seeing that by the morale. We're
seeing that with a re priorityation on lethalities. But the
thing about you know, you talk about wokeness and equality,
the military is the most you know, equal place I've

(37:09):
ever met. You're all equally worthless in the eyes of
the military.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
You're just a number, bro, unless you're an officer like you.
I was enlisted, okay, the enlisted guys, and we were
just a number, Mike.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
But you know, again, what people don't understand, and you
got nine of our population doesn't serve in the military,
and everyone's entitled to their opinion. But unless you've been
to war, it's like me going into investment baking. I'm
not an investment baker. I wouldn't tell them how to
lead or what their culture should look like because I
just don't know. I haven't experienced it. I haven't spent

(37:43):
time in their trenches. But the the thing about the
military is it is so highly professional it. I mean,
some of the best leaders I've ever worked for have
come out of the military or are still in the military,
and they conduct themselves with with with empathy, with respect, kindness,
with professionalism. They do hold a standard. And you know,

(38:05):
if we could somehow filter some of how the military
runs their organizations into the business world, we would see
another economic boom and we'd see the driving people increase.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
You know.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
There was one other thing about one of those fundamental
questions of why somebody joins is do I have what
it takes? Every single young man or woman says, do
I have what it takes to become a marine or
any soldier, or an airman or a.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
State I want to be challenged when young, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
It provides that environment, but it's also the greatest environment
for coaching and mentoring. When I fell, and I fell
a lot in the military, and I made a lot
of mistakes, there was always a mentor and yeah, maybe
they had some good fun with me at the moment,
would always pick me up and help me figure out
a way to learn how to do what I was
trying to do or become a better human being and
a better leader. And again you don't find that in

(38:58):
the private secret. That's what we're trying to create within
my company and hence why I'm the chief talent officer
of an Overwatch. And you guys did mention something. We're
launching something tomorrow and sorry for the shameless plug.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
No, but I got it. I was gonna give to
that anyway.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
It's about veteran hiring. So Overwatch mission critical. We're in
the data center space. We are a thirty seven percent
veteran workforce. We are an sd OSB. We have Ankles
of Hope, which is a pledge launching tomorrow on June
six with it which is what Gentlemen Day Day, the
eighty first anniversary. This will run until November eleven. We

(39:34):
run this every year. We want companies to contact us
and join us on this expedition. I call it to
hire as many veterans as they can in the paradigm
and how we look at them. Guys, we are not
a broken demographic. No, you know what breaks you in
a sense, but guess what you can't break what's already broken.
We're unflappable and they are a battle proven, driven workforce demographic.

(39:59):
And we need companies to contact us at we areoverwatch
dot com. Join on board, and let's see if we
can get a thousand veterans hired over the next one
hundred and fifty eight.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I love this push.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
I've been doing that since I've gotten out. That's what
I've focused on, is getting veterans into leadership positions into companies.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
That's a great you know what. And I'm sitting there
thinking about when I was in and how the corporate
world that I've been in corporate media over the last
several decades versus when I was in the military and
might make so much sense right now. Think about how
in the corporate world you're a lot less and maybe

(40:36):
you don't know this, rarely being younger and only being
in the corporate world of college it's a lot less
professional In the corporate world, there's a lot less how
should I put this, so I don't get in trouble
even though you don't care about getting in trouble. There's
a lot less pushback for people that aren't as mature

(40:56):
professional and have those hard work ethics in the civilian
world then in the military, because by golly, they don't
allow it. In the military. If you walk in and
you say to your serge or commanding officer that day, hey,
what's up, bro, Like at work you might do or hey,
what's up boss man, and bullshit, You're not going to
get to do that in the military because you have

(41:18):
to walk in like, good morning, sergeant, are you doing
what do you have for me today? Sir great? Or not? Sir?
Pardon me? Only to officers, and let's get mad at that.
You have to be. In the private sector, there's no
command of that. You don't have to worry about getting
written up or in trouble or demoted or have a
stripe pulled off your shoulder if you screw something up.

(41:38):
But in the military there is that, and people don't
want to because again to Mike, what he was saying
is you're challenged. You want that challenge when you're young.
Then you want to prove it to your commanding officers
or your NCOs that you can rise to that occasion
and you can meet that challenge. I'm sorry. In the
corporate world, I don't feel like you get pushed by

(41:59):
your boss' middle management enough to want to respond that way.
Is there incentive number one and number two? There just
isn't that environment. You know when you go in and
you raise that hand and you put that uniform on,
because you're taught all these different codes that you have
to follow. Right, you know you're going to be doing
this now for at least four years. If you fall
in love with it and make it a career like

(42:19):
Mike did, and you're doing twenty twenty five thirty, this
will become like breathing to you. In the private sector,
it come on.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Well, and I think it's some I think it's safe
to say one of the one of the sort of
tragedy that one of the problems we're facing today is
just private sector schools, just overall life, the bar, just
the standards keep getting lowered and lowered.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
I'll be walking around it's a Wednesday afternoon, coming out
of the office, people are walking around in pajama pants,
and it's like, who who does that?

Speaker 1 (42:48):
On a weekday?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
In civil society, people used to walk around town in
suits and dresses and carry themselves respectfully, and it was yes, sir,
and yes ma'am, and it was how are you?

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah? You have to know it's most veterans. Look at Mike,
he's got a tight haircut. I mean, look, there's not
a hair out of place on his head.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
So it's out of his shirts, press standards. It's the
way yourself. So I would noting to see that more.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
I see not had to bust his chops. He's gonna
kick my ass next time I see.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
But no, Mike, I do hope that that point resonates.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
That's a great point. I mean, come on, Matt, you
get somebody like a mic Get a marine recon guy,
get a Navy seal, get somebody like that's a special operator,
and then give me a give me a CFO or
a VP of marketing for one of these big, huge
fortune five hundred companies that went to Brown or Yale
or Harvard or some bs. I'll take these guys one
hundred to one over those clowns to run my company,

(43:43):
to get me out of a jam, to save me
in a fox, whatever it is in life. I would
take one of them over a hundred of those corporate
highly educated folks any day of the week. So I'm
on board. I wanted to pitch that one more time.
We still got fifteen twenty left, and we got more
questions from Mike, But one more time, who are you
working for? Name it again the initiative to get thousands

(44:06):
of veterans hired before a Veterans Day. Give it to
them one more time before we move on here, Mike.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
So.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
The name of the company is Overwatched Mission Critical yep.
The website is we are Overwatch. In the program running
from June sixth to November eleven is Anchors for Hope.
And again, this is not charity. This is not charity.
This is hiring a unflappable, proven workforce that you go

(44:31):
under steamwork leadership, discipline, and just overall outcomes. They drive
towards outcomes. And so we would love to get every
company we can to just join us on this and
see what we can do to put a dent in
the transition problem. Because guys there is a transition problem,
and you set it that homecoming and belonging. When a
vet gets out having been part of what I refer

(44:54):
to as a tribe YEP, steps into the civilian world
and sees that there is no threads of homecoming and belonging.
That's hard and it's hard to treat it. This world.
We can help with that, and we we we've guys,
it's a proven model. All you have to do is
train people. You've got to give them clear priorities, what
they're what the desired end state is the outcome you

(45:16):
need them to achieve. And then, as Patent said, don't
tell people how to do things, tell them what needs
to get done, and let them surprise you with your ingenuity.
You'll be surprised by this veteran workforce, I promise you.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Oh yeah, because there's nothing more. Look, you give a
bunch of veterans a mission. That's what that's what we're missing,
that's what we're lacking. Right, Like it might not have
said when we get out, it's like, where's the mission?
What's the next mission? You know, it might not be
kicking a door in and killing Osama bin Laden. It
might be getting my spending costs down and better marketing
so we can get our numbers up selling widgets. Okay,

(45:47):
give me that mission and I will go kick that
door down and get it done. A very famous general
told me something once, Mike, that's stuck with me. H.
It was General Michael Flynn. I was about to do
my first sit down interview with him. And the place
that we were interviewing him the organizers of this event.

(46:08):
He was about to give a speech at and I
was giving a speech at. I was doing a twofold.
He was speaking, I was speaking, tons of others were speaking.
But in between, behind the scenes, I was going to
do an interview with him. So the location that the
folks set up for me to interview him was like
eighty five degrees. It was no ac work, and it
was hot as hell. My camera crew just set up.
They're sweat and they're like, Dan, this is not going

(46:28):
to work. The General, you were going to look like crap. Well,
we all had a schedule, right again, this is a
three star general, right, Mike was a three I go
to the General. I go, I know you're on a
time schedule. General, this is our first meeting. I need
a few more minutes because we want to move the
location because and he cuts me off before I can
even tell him what the hell is going on? And again,

(46:49):
I didn't set it up. I didn't put us in
that hot room a third party. Did you know what
the general said? I don't care. Ah, even if tell Mike,
Mike knew, He's like, don't make your problem my problem.
Fix it. I'll see you in five minutes for the interview. Wow,
that's what the general told me. Now that was four

(47:11):
years ago. I stood on stage with that man a
year ago, and he told a crowd of thousands of people.
I love this guy. I watch him every night. Trust
what he says. He gives you the truth. I'm a fan.
We're friends. Wow. But four years ago I thought he
hated me because he was like, don't make your problem
my problem. Fix it. That's what real leaders do and
what being in a unit or a tribe will drive

(47:34):
you to do, and what you get taught in that
four or forty years, whatever you serve, you will learn
stuff that there's no way in Sam Hill You're going
to learn on a college campus or working in corporate America.
It just don't happen. Mike let's keep moving on with you.
This is a show about you tonight. So besides where
you work now, you've also worked for charities helping vets.

(47:56):
You also did something and this is how I met Mike.
Originally he did a little crazy thing for a while
with this expeditionary unit of a whole bunch of special
operators flying around the globe and jumping out of planes.
And so that's how I met him because we were
honoring the fall and by doing all these jumps and
raising all this money. There's the website the Triple seven.

(48:16):
There's even a documentary film about it. And so yeah,
I jumped out of a perfectly airplane with this crazy
Navy seal guy to raise awareness about what he was doing.
So Mike back up and fill folks in on that
and what you did there, because I just always thought
that was so cool that you guys did that.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Well, Dan, that was a pretty foolish call because I
think that was like my third sky I've.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
It's been a smart ass. He's jumped like thousands of times. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Again, it goes back to challenge Gus. You know he
do I miss the brotherhood?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yes, did do I miss adversity absolutely. So you know,
there's been this lore, this feat that people have been
trying for decades to complete, called the Triple seven or
seven seven seven. Can somebody do seven skydives on all
seven continents within seven days?

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (49:08):
So I called somebodies and I said, hey, dude, I'm bored.
I need some valley around you know, you know my company.
At the time, I'm like, I just need to I
need to be around the boys. We need to pick
something really freaking hard that no one has done. And
quite frankly, people said, hey, this, you know, this just
can't be done. Don't even try. So I convinced them,
let's do it. It didn't take all that much convincing,

(49:30):
and it took Z eighteen months to plan to raise
the money to make sure that we got nine hundred
skydives in amongst the group of nine of us, and
we gave it a shot. And it was a logistical
jigsaw puzzle that nobody was able to figure out. And
you had some very high net worth individuals who had
tried this with their own private plane. We had a

(49:51):
fly commercial because we couldn't afford a private plane, and
we ended up setting four world records by jumping into
all seven continents within six days, six hours, and six minutes.
But more importantly, yeah, and this was the purpose behind
the key. We jumped in honor of one of our
fallen on each continent. So amongst the of us, one guy,

(50:13):
we get up and talk about a fallen service member
on each continent. And I'm gonna tell you this is
right before we get on the plane and jump, and
it'll most haveg you in tears every time, and you
can see the pain that they they just can't put down,
which is war. And we're happy to live with it
so that others don't. But we raised I think in all,

(50:33):
about two million dollars for Folds of Honor, which is
an exceptional organization that provides educational scholarships to the families
of fallen or disabled service members, particularly their spouses and
their children.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yep. So I've been involved with Folds of Honor. My
buddy John Rich is involved with him. He gives on
every bottle of his whiskey. So I've known about Folds
of Honor for a while. So when Mike's team reached
out a couple years ago and said, hey, these guys
are coming to San Diego to jump. You want to
jump with these crazy special operators for Folds of Honor.
I already knew the charity. I didn't know Mike and
his crazy friends, but I was like, yeah, I haven't
jumped in a while, let's jump for charity. Then when

(51:09):
you meet these guys right and you hang out with them,
I mean they are These are some of the best
American patriots you would ever meet. And to go give
up their time to go do something this wild and
crazy and come and do it in six days and
then raise millions for the left behind kids and wives

(51:29):
and husbands of the fallen, that's amazing. So I just
want to give you props on that. I know the
missions over you did the Triple seven back in what
you completed and what was it twenty four to twenty three?
My years are running together, so.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
In January of twenty three. But all says there's another
one in the works, another one. I won't give away
too much detail, but a good crew of guys. Okay,
looking at going for another few world records by doing
something I do not have the blessing of my wife.
This is going to be I have to convince.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Her, you know, I wasn't married, and we jumped last time.
Now I'm married. I might have to ask for permission
this time.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Hey, every great man always has to include the other
decision maker, who sometimes owns fifty one percent of that decision.
So work to do there. I have no doubt we're
going to figure it out. But this January we may
be given another attempt. All right, seven continent expeditions.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Where do you think you'll jump on this particular continent?
Would it be in southern California?

Speaker 3 (52:29):
There will be no jumping, as you say, it's a
different challenge.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Different oh interest. Now I'm going to pick the brain offline.
I can keep a secret mic. We'll talk. We'll talk.
All right. So we got the job at hand helping
vets get jobs. We've got the charity wing of jumping out.
I got to get Mike's take. Now on the current
state of our military, we touched on these recruiting numbers.

(52:54):
We got a new sect def we got a new
commander in chief. Trump just made a comment, I think
today or yesterday from the Oval Office about the recruiting
numbers exceeding. It's so amazing to see these changes. Pete
has done a lot of stuff. We're not now paying
any more of our tax payer money to do transitional
surgeries for people in the military that want to switch

(53:15):
their gender, which you can't do. We're getting rid of
all the woke DEI classroom bs and we're just training
warriors so that we can lead through strength but not
have to go to war. That's the whole point, right Mike.
If we have such a lethal force. Reagan got this
and Trump gets it. If the force is so dang
lethal that no enemy would dare come against us, then

(53:39):
we don't have to get into another twenty one year
war like in Afghanistan, right Mike.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Ultimately, as a military service member, we used to say,
and we've got to train this into the young generation
to understand it. As a soldier, as a in the
profession of arms, you are trained in the profession of peace,
though trained in the art of war, and peace through
strength is to be such a scary adversary that nobody

(54:06):
would dare step against us. But beyond training our warfighters
and focusing them on lethality, there's also the logistical or
technical acquisition piece to this, and we're seeing warfare change
in front of us, guys. Five GW fifth generation warfare
and we just saw it with Operation Spider Web, the

(54:27):
massive attack Ukraine just pulled off. Warfare has fundamentally transformed.
Is it going to replace the man on the ground.
Absolutely not, but it is changing warfare. And what the
challenge for PETE and DoD is a rapid acquisitions process
working with the tech sector. That's where the private sector
and the military are fundamentally linked. Is the technology we

(54:48):
need is coming out of the civilian workforce and even
the drone capacity. We need to elevate our drone, our
drone manufacturing to a rate that exceeds China because it
is changing the landscape of warfare. And whoever agreed who
thought that warfare would look less like call of duty
and more like uber eats or door dash for destruction.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Wow, that's a great point. And you know what, Mike,
I was just talking about this last night with somebody
about drones. And I'll go back to this and I
don't want to harp on it because it's going to
be out of time. And I got to get some
more personal stuff with Mike on camera here. Two years ago,
a couple of sheriffs that went to the Federal National
meeting of all sheriffs. County sheriffs with the FBI were

(55:29):
told that future terror attacks small or large scale, most
likely will come in the fashion of drone attacks, and
the FBI this is under the Biden regime. Even they
told all county sheriffs to be on the lookout up
for drones. You see, then what happens with the paragliders
on October seventh flying in right hamas with Israel and

(55:52):
then Ukraine with this is the new warfare and US
Americans since we just let fifteen million legals in and thousands,
if not millions of them don't like the American way. Right,
anybody can buy a drone at Best Buy. Y'all better
be watching the skies, keeping your head on a frigging
swivel and watching each other six because this is how

(56:14):
the next attack could come on the homeland. Forget warfare overseas,
for our warriors, like Mike, I'm talking about innocent civilians
on the homeland getting killed by drone attack. So that's that.
We'll leave it there, because we're already pushing almost an hour,
and I got to congratulate Mikey and get some more
personal stuff in here from mister Sorelli name.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
I wish we had way more time.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
I know we need three hours these. What was why
we do two of these a week now? Right? We've
got Matt's doing one on the night before ours, and
then you and not doing this one. We might add
one with some of the ladies here from away in
and I think we should extend more hours anyway. Mike's
personal stuff. Beautiful wife, beautiful baby. Congratulations, how's that going?
Big guy things?

Speaker 3 (56:55):
I did not think what happened to me at the
age of forty seven. Rather, we have an eight month
old daughter. She's gorgeous. First time I witnessed a birth.
I've got two other children who I love. Twenty one
year old in vet Tech school, she's doing well, and
then my son seventeen, who's finishing up high school. It's,
you know what, having a child at a later age,

(57:17):
I think you're blessed with more wisdom, maturity, perspective, and
extremely thankful that she's doing well. She's safe. But to
your point, you know, Dan, on the future attacks, we
need to exist in a hyper state of security, and
it's not the next nine to eleven. Though, it's not

(57:38):
to say that our infrastructure is not exposed, but they'll
choose softer targets, easier targets like taking out the Secretary
of the Navy or other leaders within our nation. So
this actually can be a very positive thing to get
people to understand that we're not as safe as we
thought we were in the sixties and seventies. The lady,

(58:00):
we need to be in a hyper state of security.
We need to be vigilant, and this is why we
need to support our police force in our government agencies.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Thank you, we're there.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
So you know, with the good or with the bad,
can come the good and aid nor perspective as a
nation that the world is not as safe as it
was decades ago.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yeah, it's an unfortunate truth, but we need to be
paying attention. Mike Sirelli, United States Navy Seal I learned
something tonight. Former recon in the Marine Corps did not
know he was a jar head and a marine sniper.
So I learned that. I think I knew you were
a forty seven year old new dad. I follow you. Duh.

(58:40):
Anything else we should know about Mike Sirelli before we
lose you. We talked about we got a new expedition
coming out that's going to be wild and bigger and
crazier than jumping out of planes on seven continents. You're
doing amazing work with your company trying to get veterans jobs.
I love that. Helping charities. You're busy changing poopy diapers.
What else in the last minute or two with Mike Sirelli,

(59:03):
this is your pitch moment. Whatever else you want to
push for veterans, for your charities, you help out hit it.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Mike, Well, you're absolutely right. Right after this, my wife said,
you get out of that room and you make that
We've just got a baby bed which I've got to
put together. No, guys, I'll wrap it up this way.
Nothing that I want to push. Humble that you had
me on. You made me sound a lot more interesting
than I am. I appreciate that. You know my service.

(59:32):
I was proud to do it. It was my calling. Did
I do anything more special than anyone else? No, I'm
another grain of sand in the long line of soldiers.
But you know, I could sit on a podcast for
days and talk about the men and women that I
served with and the strength of the pack, or the
strength of the individuals in the pack. I am nothing

(59:53):
without the men to my left and right into all
the vets. Thank you the generations that came before us
and laid the path for us to be successful, the
generation I served with the generation now serving protecting us.
And all I would say to veterans is, hey, run
for office, start companies, find a way to serve outside

(01:00:15):
the uniform. There you go, because you've got the leadership
that this nation needs. We need you to step up,
and we actually need you to do more.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
There we go, There we go, Navy Seal Mike Sirelli,
thank you for coming on. Wise words. You have served
this nation honorably, Sir, and you continue to serve it
now in the civilian world. Best of you and the
wife and the new kiddo. God bless you. Brother. Thanks
for coming on, Mike. Nice chat. Really appreciate it, Allie.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yep, cool guy. Right, Yeah, I just told you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
You can just sense that he's a thoroughly, thoroughly decent man, truly,
and I just it's very humbling to hear his perspective
about life and just service. And that's the thing I
would like to take away in my own life has
stopped to your point earlier about selfishness in this generation.
This is a plea to myself and to my fellow peers.
Stop thinking so much about the world evolving around you.

(01:01:07):
Think about serving, think about acts of kindness, think about
think about what you can contribute to your country.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
It's ask not what you can do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yes, it's a time not to be cheesy, but well
it sounds cheesy and trite, but it's profoundly true. Yes,
it's maybe the best it was back then it is today, Amen, completely.
So that's what I'm trying to get better at is
find every day, find something to contribute to my fellow citizens,
to make this place better, to protect it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
You know, I haven't met a Navy seal yet, and
I know a handful now thanks to this job working
it away in that isn't like Mike, you don't get
to that level. You're not a highly trained special operator
where you can handle missions like Navy Seals do, Marine
recon Green Beret Air Force pay rescue like we talked
about at the beginning of this podcast. You don't get

(01:01:55):
to that level of operator, as they call themselves unless
you have all of the disciplines Mike talked about tonight.
You've got to have all of them yes, and then
what a human being that creates after you go through
that training and then you're part of that unit or
as Mike said, that tribe. I would want that guy
being my boss at work, right or my co worker completely,

(01:02:16):
because that guy or Galen knows how to get it
done completely and put the mission before themselves. Yes, that's
the key. And I don't care if you're talking about
a war, you're talking about teaching third graders, you're talking
about making widgets, whatever you're going, whatever you're talking about, Okay,
those are the qualities in a human being and an employee,

(01:02:39):
in a partner, in a whatever you want. So, as
Mike said, hire those veterans. I love that his company
doing that initiative now through Veterans Day November eleventh, And
this interview couldn't have been more fitting. I mean, we
booked him a week ago last week, right, and didn't
know all this stuff we're going to be talking about.
The new numbers came out. So everything happens for a reason, right,

(01:03:00):
big guy, it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Does, and be grateful, uh for all of it. That's
I'm just I'm eternally grateful for that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Or over now where they're gonna wrap U up, Riley.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Yeah, yeah, well listen, thank you all.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
By the way, I was gonna cheers you, but I
ran out. And Yeah, today it was one of those
days where man and this just went down real smooth.
Yeah you you weren't sipping and I was doing all tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
I was mesmerized by that. There was no there was
no time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Well, I feel like when I when I when I
get a when I get a fellow vet on and
we can sit around a BS. I want a cocktail
just because you're you're flowing. Now it's time for our
shameless self plugs as we say good night to you.
But I will give Mike another one. Look up what
Mike does uh with his unit, because getting those veterans'
job is gonna be amazing. Keep an eye out for

(01:03:43):
his expedition thing. I can't I don't know what it
is that's honest and saying TV. I wasn't acting. I
don't know what they're gonna do this year, but I
can't wait to see what they do. I hope he
involves me and Folds of Honors a great charity as well.
Check out the o AN lineup. Here's the plug. Riley
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(01:04:50):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Absolutely and check us out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
By the way.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
On social media, we're on Truth on X on Facebook,
on Instagram, Rumble Ways to Stay Connected YouTube, Rumble absolutely.
So this is a family we've got here, and we've
we're part of a movement and just to harpin to
tie it all together, mission driven. We're all on a
mission here. Every single Talk Too host, every news anchor,
every producer, every editor, everybody here, they come here because

(01:05:19):
they buy into the mission.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
And yeah, it's business and CNN, we're not cashing a paycheck,
and yes, you know we're going and read the tilleprompter everybody.
I would hope ninety nine point nine percent of the
folks here are in the America First movement and that's
why they're at a way in because some of us
I don't know about you, but some of us could
have gone elsewhere sure and made a little more green,
and chose not to because we thought we'd be stifled

(01:05:44):
and censored.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Yes, it's bigger than a nine to five. It's bigger
than just a paycheck. What we're doing here is it's
really profound. I firmly believe in that, and I'm grateful
to even be a part of it. So thank you
for what you do. Thank you for guests like Mike
that come on the show and just you know, chat
with us about this stuff and this is This is
a pivotal moment in American history right now. It is
I am extremely grateful to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Be hon I love that we have this podcast to
do this longer format than our fifty two minute talk
shows where we get four or five guests and we
only get five to ten minutes with them. This is
great to highlight people and what they do, and what
Mike Sirelli and what other special operators and all that's
have done for our nation. We can never say as
we wrap things up, we can never ever say these
simple words enough. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank

(01:06:26):
you for your service to our nation, for fighting these
enemies foreign and domestic for two hundred and fifty years
to keep this constitutional republic. I'll end where we began,
to keep this constitutional republic free for we the people.
Thank you to the Mike Sirellis and all the veterans
of this great nation. God bless you. We're back next week.

(01:06:49):
These drop every Friday, seven pm on I think YouTube
and Rumble and then social media clips have links. I
have no idea who next week's guest will be, any
ideas that we should do, Riley.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
I don't know, but I want to hear from you guys.
So if you have ideas, recommendations, let us know in
the comments, call into the shows. Otherwise you'll have to
tune in because it'll just be a surprise.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
That's a great idea.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
It's always somebody good, by the way, So.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
If you see somebody online, maybe it's an influence or
a celebrity of politician or whatever that you see on
Right By Show or whatever that we may know. Especially
it helps tell us that put it in the comments
and we'll try and get them booked. I got to
think there's somebody that you want to learn more about
than the five minutes we get with them to talk
about policy or their new album or their new movie
or whatever. Here you get a whole hour with them. Yeah. Great,

(01:07:34):
call rither Lewis. Thank you, brother, Thank you for your
service here at OAN. Cheers to another great Anchorman podcast.
We'll see you next Friday night. God bless