Fitness Secrets with Geoff Laney – Expert Tips and Insights! - The Best Experience

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
All right, Yes, we are live. This is the best
experience and we have a guest. Yes, Jeff Laney, thank
you for joining us today. But before we get into everything, uh,
you know, Jeff, we'd like to welcome our newest members.
Every week we read off the newest members that have

(00:35):
joined our Patreon and for those when you join, we
actually read your name off in the beginning of every
show and it's an appreciation. Thank you guys for joining
our community.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, absolutely, Nick, well, Vivian Ho, thank you very much,
Vicky wu Ming hopefully I said that right. Uh zenon
you uh uh mezen Yee, Shirley gone, and lerr Chin

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thank you all very much. If I butchered your names,
my humblest apologies, but thank you for joining. We appreciate
you being here. Let's see here, so we go to questions.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Correct, Yes, let's go right to questions because we got
two questions in this week and for those of part
of the Patreon, let me take that out.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
To go into those. Oh, we're just bouncing all over
the place.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
That we are, but I've got two questions in MM.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, usually take vitamins and probatics. Is that healthy or
should I try to get more from real foods instead.
I just I think it might not be getting enough
nutrients from my diet. Okay, well, basically a balanced diet
is like the number one thing you can do for yourself,
period the end. But little extra vitamins, vitamin C, a

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few other things, they're not gonna hurt you. It's not
going to be bad, so go ahead and take them.
It's whatever you don't utilize, you're just going to pee out,
so you're fine, don't don't even worry about it. And
then as far as the probiotics go, yeah, it's going
to help you digest the food and stuff like that,
so yeah, absolutely do that as well. It's gonna help

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you digest. And you can also try some stuff like
chicken broth that's gonna help you know, the bone bone
broth is going to help you digest your food. So
it never hurts to do that as well. So put
that if you make right, if you use a lot
of white rice, add that to your white rice and
then put your protein in with that, and you're going

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to digest a little better. So that's kind of and
then smaller, more frequent meals so that your protein breaks down.
Everything breaks down a little easier. It gets assimulated in
your blood sugar, and everything stays more even throughout your body.
So if you like five six times a day as
opposed to two or three, your body's gonna get the

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nutrients in easier as well. They're going to digest the
smaller meals easier, and your stomach and digestive system won't
have to work as hard, which is also going to
be beneficial to you as well.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
So, yeah, you got any vitamins or anything that you
would as a recommendation, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, I typically take all the same stuff. I take
the multi vitamin every day for all my micro nutrients.
I also take collagen as well, and I take like
you know, milk thistle and other types of vitamins for liver, kidney,
organ support, all the same stuff that Nick already mentioned though.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, So it's once you get to a certain level
of the guys are doing all the exact same things
because it's what got them there in the first place.
So these are all things that are going to help,
all right. Number two, when somebody is injured, sick, or
recovering from surgery and can't really eat normal food, but
actually needs more nutrients. What should you do instead? Do

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you need extra protein or do they need extra protein?
And millenials, how can they get those in? The regular
meals don't work, you know, protein, collagen, bone broth, all
those things we just talked about, great things to help
with recovery. They really are getting your protein in. If
you can't get it in by eating the food, drink it.

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You know, pretty simple protein shakes stuff like that. Drink
it because you're gonna be able to swallow a lot
easier than you're gonna be able to chew if you
can't get the food in. And so just and you
get a need to take in liquids anyway, So liquid
protein with a way or you know, whatever type of
protein is that you want to take in, do that instead.

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If you can't, you know, you can't get a lot
of calories, and you can't do that, drink it. Make
the protein shakes and then drink those and instead of
eating the meals, because you're still going to drink fluids
no matter what you do. So add that because like
during the summer, we'll do that here in Vegas during
when it gets like hot and you got to constantly
drink drink like fluids. I'll go and have a couple

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of protein shakes during the day because I get so
full from drinking fluids. I can't eat. Same philosophy when
you're doing that with injury and stuff like that, you
can't eat drinking fluids, drink drinking protein.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
So yeah, have you got any recommendations in that area
or just for like, you know, like that you're saying
for someone who's trying, who's out of surgery, trying to recover,
or even sick.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
You know, definitely getting all your food in, especially if
you're sick. Been on plenty of deployments where I eat
the wrong thing or I get some type of bad
water in me, and then you're down and you're sick,
and the last thing that you want is something on
your stomach, and the best thing for you is rest

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and something on your stomach. So injury, sickness, what have
you just even like small little meals, anything is better
than nothing.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
So yes, yes, I agree, And I just recently got
over from you know, I'm on the tail end of
being sick. My whole house is sick here at the house,
so it's like, yeah, exactly, and it's for me electrolytes,
something tasty in the water, you know what I'm saying,
a little flavor, and it really helps me out because
I get really dehydraded. W I'm one of those people

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when you get sick or I'm injured or something like that,
I lose my appetite and I want nothing and it's
like no, I have to And it's like breaking that
mental aspect of that. That's what always fucks me up.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'll take like juices and stuff and water I'm down
a little bit. Yea, this concentrate stuff like.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
That orange juice had one tenth of a pediolite or something. Yeah, exactly,
y yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
And there's nothing wrong with taking cold medicine. There's nothing wrong,
you know what I'm saying. It's just get a little
inid you know what I'm saying, And that's the best
way to do it.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
M yeah for sure. Oh yeah, Okay, Now we're going
to talk to Jeff. It's it's it's the Jeff time
of the show. So Jeff is an amazing straw man.
He you just won the national championship and twenty twenty
five correct and one of five yes, yes you did

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for yep, and what else did you do with that show?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I was able to set the one o five's national
overhead press record and uh I did it four four
fifteen behind the neck.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
So m yeah, that's pretty freaking amazing. I can tell
you this. I never did that, so that's pretty amazing.
That's that is totally phenomenal. They won it pretty handedly,
So good job, very I appreciate this. And you turned
out to be a pretty good powerlifter apparently too.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
All right, Yeah, trying to fall in your in your footsteps.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
So you just did a contest, didn't you?

Speaker 4 (08:23):
On the on the eleventh, Yes, I had the WPF
World Championship, and I was in the men's hundred kilo
and the Pro Open as well.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Mm hmm. Got five hundred and fifty one dots. You
don't know, that's a lot. That's really good. Squatted seven
ninety three.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yep, under seven three. It's like, yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
It's okay, and then pulled seven to twenty seven point
five on the deadlift, correct, sure did so. That's a
nineteen sixty two total at two twenty And the biggest
part of that was drug tested yep.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, yeah, it was a drug tested show.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, so you're doing that drug tested, not just not
just doing the show, you're doing that well tested. That's
that's pretty amazing because that's nineteen sixty two is a
big total at too.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
I really wanted that. I really wanted that two k
under twenty.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Oh man, it's there, it's it's there.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
It's just gonna take a little time. It's there. And
then how bad do you want to stay? That light.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Ye powerless thing has slowly become a back burner for me.
So and I'm really starting to get a headstrong into
strong man like focused mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
So in your strong man training? What do you got
coming up? Now? What's next for you?

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Next? Is the Arnold in March?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay? And what are the events for that?

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Do you know they have not released yet? Now I
would love to know. I'd already be training.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Now. I noticed you're doing a lot of sandbag stone sandbags.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yes, I recently came across a set of sandballs and
I've seen them used at OSG as well. I am
not doing OSG this year, however, they were there last year.
Now service makes them. I'm assuming having them in the
in the toolkit will come in handy soon.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
It will It always well it's just something different. And
so that's pretty good because you shouldered those things pretty
easy too.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
They're they're a lot of fun, surprisingly difficult in their
own way, easier in ways that I didn't expect. So
and I think in all the easy all the easy ways,
or to my strengths of picking and shouldering and what
have you. So I'm gonna on.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
So, now, are you doing it the way you do
it for a particular reason or.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Is that just just off season fun? Okay, just trying
to learn something new.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Now you're getting paid for this, now, correct, you're a professional?

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (11:20):
I am dual pro. The WPF pays me, and then
I'm a one five pro through strong anchor.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Okay, Now that being said, we need to make things
as easy as possible when you're training, because you want
the stuff to be as easy as possible. Have you
tried the sandbags with a leather belt on a loose one?

Speaker 4 (11:44):
I have not.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Okay, have you tried those balls with a pair of
blue rubber gloves on the.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Kind of you can buy it the gardening ones? Huh
like the gardening ones? Yeah? Yes, hmmm, I think write down.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yes. The goal is to make things as easy as
possible within the rules, and if they don't put any
rules where you can't use a leather belt, leather belt,
and they don't put any rules in where you can't
use those rubber gloves, because that those rubber gloves grip sandbags,
whether they're the round ones or whatever, they grip the
sand bags. They make picking up up off the ground

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just that much easier.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Especially much better than chalk.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
About a thousand times better than chalk. Yes, way better
than chalk. And there's little tricks you can do which
I'll explain to you later at a different time, because
I'm not going to give.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
Those camera secrets, yund so they don't slide or move
and then lap it and then put the belt should
be you know, about an inch loose, just so you
get a little bit of a that catches the bag.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Now, you mean like a leather belt like I would
wear with just a.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
One in like a one inch lever belt, you know,
or a four inch or the three inch the thirteen
millimeter belts that you were Okay, yeah, you need that
like an inch loose, so it's got a little bit
of a lip on it. You grab that into the sandbag.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Okay, Yeah, use your sense, use your.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Hips instead of your abs. You'll pop it. You'll pop
it right up over your shoulders every time. You'll you'll
be able to throw it in the.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Air the way you're feel super confident with them. So
that's gonna be great.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, it'll just make it that much easier to say
that much energy and have that much energy for your
next event. Which is the goal for the pros is
you want to make You want to outthink everyone, not
out tough.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Everyone, Oh for sure.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, and that's a mistake. I see a lot of
a lot of athletes try to out tough everybody instead
of outthink everybody. So novakof is a guy that tries
to outthink everybody. Brian would try to outthink everybody. There's
there's some guys out there, Magnus verb which is why
Magnus ver is all over people when he sets rules

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because he used to try to outthink everybody. Same thing,
outthink everyone when you're going, you'll make a make a big, big,
big difference on those And then how do you work
on your foot speed with your frame? Were you going
at that speed on purpose or that?

Speaker 4 (14:40):
So No, I trained a lot faster. I trained like
a lot of like static high steps like you know
old football drills, footworks, foot speed. It was who second
and third place were. I knew that they could do
me all day on the frame carry At Nationals m

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DJ doggett he would train at an eight to eighty
frame for the same distance, same speed, animal on grip strength.
Grip strength is my weakest link. So knowing that he
could outdo me all day speed intensity on the frame,
I just knew that I needed to get a certain

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exact distance with how the score was lined up, and
then I'm done. It doesn't matter how good second and
third place did. They could not outpace me in points.
So I did the exact minimum. At I was in
the back like behind the scenes, and I was just
walking back and forth and pacing, counting my steps. So

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then when I went out there, I just had to
count a certain steps out, certain steps back, and I
knew the distance right, I dropped it. I had seven
and a half second left and I just walked off
and a couple guys yelled at me for doing it.
I explained my theory, Hey, if it screws me over
in the last event, then I wanted to be as
fresh for the last event as possible.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
No, And that's that's that's being a pro, right there,
that's being pro. It's it's me getting the losses and
exaggerating your your strengths. So that's smart, that's smart. Than
we can make we can make that better.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
We make that Pro Strongman League. I failed to play
on my strengths and you know, take an honorable loss
in my weaknesses where I did the verse, I sam
bagged all my strengths and then I just dug my
heels into all the events I was bad at and

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I still got top five at the PSL Championship, but
definitely could have done better. Lessons learned, took those lessons
to nationals.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Made Yeah, I always did. I did whatever I could
on overhead because I'm just I was just never a
great overhead presser. And then I just came with all
my strengths. I just brought it all, you know. And
that's that's how I was able to do the things
that I did as mitigated the the bad stuff. And
I mean I zeroed the axle at World Strongest Man

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in twenty ten and still still made it to the finals. Yeah,
so it's just but I won three events in the
qualifying heat. So stuff like that makes a pretty big difference.
So it's just mitigating losses and then getting after that.
So but a lot of it. Some of it's the

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way you carry your shoulders too, and make keeping the
frame from moving. Just notice pickups. The frame was rocking
up and down.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Oh yes, I like a lot of guys would take
off and they would get ahead, and even some of
the guys lower on the leader board or typically not always,
but typically more novice or junior athletes, especially, a good
handful of those guys, they picked it so fast they

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didn't anticipate the length because of how narrow our friends were.
To make up for how narrow they were, they made
them just way longer. So it was a balancing act.
A lot of guys would pick them up and then
they'll just dig and it would just stop them.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, So did you get to play with them at
all before you guys went?

Speaker 4 (18:32):
We did. We had the day prior during the rules meeting,
and then we had all all day as long as
you as early as you got to get there and
work with them. They did that with all the implements,
which I loved about Nationals.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
So did you find the balancing point and then put a.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Market Yeah, if you, if you did enough practice. They
gave us like a very generous like twenty five feet
in the back. They had three lane in the back
running at a time. So I believe they brought eight
frames to the show and they had You could find

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it easy if you just worked with it when.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
You found it. On the one that you were going
to use MH mark where it.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Was, no, I didn't know which, I didn't know which
exact frame went out where. And then the way that
this day two, yeah, Day two was set up. My
weight class went first on the frame. Okay, so they
moved them straight from the backstage to the front. They

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got mixed up. My I was focused elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, And little things like that, especially when you get
into the bigger shows where there's less of you and
only a couple of frames, go market on both the
frames where your balance point is good to know, thank you, sir,
get towards a little more level of not going like
this in your.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Hands, which makes.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
It mm hmm. But do you have any deep dish
hundred pound plates?

Speaker 4 (20:12):
No? Well find any? Yeah, no, I have fifty kilo calibrateds,
but those are flat faced, and then I just have
some like I have like some standard barbell hundreds, but
they're not deep. They're not deep dish, Like how deep
are they? They probably got a quarter inch on each side.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah that's not enough. Okay, hmmm, what about any deep
dish forty five?

Speaker 4 (20:39):
I do have those?

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay, so we could probably run something through the islet
on the on the forty five to where you could
attach another one plus like a like two tens on
there to get it to one hundred pounds and then
pick them up on either side and holding.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Your hands like from the You might have to you
might have.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
To do it up on a platform. No, no, no, grabbing
the deep dish part of it.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Okay, that's what you're saying. Grabbing the.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Grab grab the deep dish on your fingertips and then
pick it up and try to get like, yeah, your
finger is gonna get really strong, really strong. I guess
what you need and grip, yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Like yeah, strong fingers strong. It's like like how rock
climbers have insane grip. They can hold their body weight
up for an hour, right, all right, it's.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Where you can hold like one hundred pounds in your
hands like that on your fingertips like that for over
a minute. You'll be able to pick up the thomasinch.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Think so, because that thing does every time I grabbed one.
It's both in the.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
For Yeah, you get to where you can hold that
for like a minute, minute and a half, you'll be
able to do it.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
I will.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
You'll make your grip. Yeah, it'll it'll, it'll help a lot.
It's just thword just came out and we just did
that out here. So okay, yeah, we a little that's
a little mini grip training session. It was a lot
of fun. It was kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
It's pretty strong too.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, I mean I can imagine. I mean, the genetics
didn't come from you know, anywhere.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I know, but oh yeah, for sure. But it works
really good. You do that with about one hundred pounds
and get it into the deep dish part of that
and get it right on your fingertips and just put
your thumbs on the top. Don't don't wrap them around,
don't squeeze them. Just your thumbs can hold on to
the top like this. But you're you're holding it on

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your fingertips trying to.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yeah, you're not trying to grip around.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
You're just yeah, yeah, you watch what happens to this
part of your foreign all through the Yeah, and your
grip will just get monster after that.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Tim Buck lives in my town. Tim Bucks open open
bro as well. I'm sure. I'm sure he might know
where some are.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yes, he'll probably be able to help you find some.
So that'll be good. That'll be a good thing.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
I'll deal with him soon. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, any other other questions, right, any ideas.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
For you for powerlifting and strong man together. Yeah, I
mean you've you've lifted both raw wraps single ply. You've
you've been a competitive powerlifter since than Yeah, you have

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like I don't know what thirty probably like thirty or
so powerlifting shows.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Uhh yeah, more than that.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, yeah, you've You've had one thousand kilo totals raw
all while still being one of what some would consider
one of the older gentlemen at World Strongest Man, competing
along with all the big names, especially big Z Brian

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you know Mkhiel like Travis and Terry Hollins. Mm hm.
How was what was probably your biggest takeaway of like
training both at the same time and being incredibly successful?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Uh? You know what they if you do it right.
They compliment each other, one will make the other better.
I mean when I first competed in straw Man, my
biggest deadlift was like seven oh five, seven to twenty
seven right around in there. And then I had to
start doing straw Man and the contest I was getting
ready for how to Farmer's Walk, and it had a deadlift,

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a regular deadlift, and I had to figure out how
to because there's no sumo in a straw man, So
I had to figure out how to deadlift and do
Farmers Walk. And the two of those combined, one played
off the other, and I just went from deadlift in

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like seven twenty seven at most up to eight oh
four in about four months. When I started training it.
It was crazy. I found that goofy technique I had
because that was the best way I could get down
and grab the bar and pull it up, and it
just it was like natural for me. And then I
was doing Farmers Walk at the same time, and I

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was going had one hundred and fifty pound dumbbell at
the twenty four hour fitness that I was working at
at the time, and I would wrap it around with
a strap one hundred and forty five pound dumbell and
double stack them, and so I'd have to pick that. Now,
imagine picking you know, two hundred and ninety five pounds
in each hand on the dumbbells on the rubber dumbbells

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at twenty four hour fitness. And that really also helped
my deadlift and then holding onto it. I was going down,
making a turn and then coming back. It was probably
about eighty feet down and turning and coming back with
those And turned out I did it right because I
got to world strong, I got to ifs the worlds

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and broke the world record in the Farmer's Walk, first
event I ever did in a international show. So then
the record's still there since two thousand and six, which
is kind of crazy. But one helped the other like
big time. So well, a lot of this stuff plays
off other things go ahead.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
You took about a fifteen year hiatus from powerlifting. Was
that you had an injury the last time you competed
in single play, which was two thousand.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, well I was just I was just getting over
that injury when I competed.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Okay, I didn't. I couldn't remember if it was that
you injured yourself in two thousand or at that show
because you didn't complete, you pulled, you withdrawn from that one.
But then you don't have another show until fifteen.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, so started it.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah. Did you always want to get back into it
or was it just you slowed down in strong.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Man and you weren't Yeah. I wanted to get to
the top level of straw Man, so I put all
my efforts.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
That, Yeah, I'd be effort.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Well, well, yeah, basically my last show was in two
thousand and one and it was the Nevada State Championships. Okay,
I think that I squatted eight fifteen, benched five sixty seven,
and deadlifted I think either seven oh five or seven

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twenty seven. I total twenty one oh five that day,
So whatever that comes out to be, that's what I
hit on the deadlift because the total was twenty one
oh five. All were Nevada state records and stuff like that,
and that was the last time I get it. That
was the last powerlifting meet, and it was I think
Dylan was probably eight or nine months old at the time,

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so it was pretty cool. And then Dylan's mother and
I just at that time it just wasn't a good thing,
and the powerlifting and stuff like that. She didn't really
like it that much. And I didn't know that much
about what Strowman was at that time.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
And then in.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Two thousand and three, Mark Phillippe invited me out to
you know, v to watch the straw Man competition that
he was having out there. And here's Grant Heiga and
John Anderson and Phil Fister and Carl Gillingham and stuff

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like that. A lot of the guys I competed with
in power lifting they're doing straw Man and I was
watching that and Dylan's just having a ball and He's like,
look at this stuff, Dad, You're pretty strong. This is cool.
You should do this.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Well.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I did did a contest in two thousand and four
and got my head handed to me at March Air
Force Base met ode Hagen there. That was pretty cool.
Nice And got to see Rebecca Swinson and oh Jill
Mills go head to head at that show. That was

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kind of amazing to watch. Yeah, Jost, Josh Bryant was there,
you know, there, there was. It was a really neat show.
I finished the middle of the pack and I realized
I finished the middle of the pack, not because I
wasn't strong enough.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
I just didn't know what I was doing.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, you know, they had a yoke in there, and
I think it was like seven hundred and fifty pounds.
And I finished the course, but I was wabbling all
over the place. I had no idea what to do
with that thing. But it was pretty cool, and I
was bit at that point. I was bit, I'm like,
I'm doing this. We got to pull a F four
fan and fighter jet. It was an airplane. I'm like,
I'm cooling an airport. It was freaking cool, and I'm like, yeah,

(30:36):
I'm I'm here, I'm I'm on November. I did another show,
and I knew what the events were a little bit,
did the best I could to get ready for those,
went to the show, and I guess the guy that
was fourth in the country that time at NAS Nationals
was there, and everybody was like freaking out that he
was there. And I beat him as bad as he

(30:57):
beat everybody else. I got first in all events and
one second in the overhead, and he got one first
in the overhead and second and all the rest of
the events. So he just looks at me and he goes, well,
he goes I'd say I'd see at Nationals he goes,
but there's a bunch of pro ams because there was
like two pro ams before he goes. He'll probably turn
pro one of those two. And I did Chad Coy's

(31:21):
show and missed it by a point, and two of
us beat all the plays that were in the show.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Historically, Chad's shows are It's tough.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
That's where I figured out I was really I knew
I was going to be good at the Farmer's Wife,
but I found out I was really good there because
I just picked up I think it was like three ten,
three twenty, and just I was gone and nobody was
dotting close. I was like, okay, cool, I'm pretty good
this one. But it was just a neat show to do.

(31:54):
And then Chad's like, look, man, you got second place
by a point. You need to keep doing this. I'm like,
hell yeah, you just need more experience. So Van Hatfield's
contest was in Utah a month later. He's like, yeah,
go up and do that one. Just go get the experience.
Well I did, and that was a program and instead
of having three pros in the contest, there was seven
pros in the contest.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
And for the events, I beat all the pros but trash.
And then the deadlift event, I actually even beat Travis.
So every time I beat like I got second in
the tire in the tire flip and drag. I missed
beating Travis I half a second. Travis was like, who
the hell are you? I'm like, oh so, And then

(32:40):
the log I did horrible and I was like in
the middle of the pack. And then the frame. Travis
and I were the only two to finish the frame,
and it was an eight hundred pound frame, which I
actually have here at my house now. Then let me
buy Yeah, but it's been here since. Thank you. Then,
I love you. I also got one of his logs,

(33:02):
which that one he let me bring down and gave
to me. But we got to the deadlift event and
then it came down to me and him and I
broke his record by like ten pounds, and he was
all pissed, you want to hit her? I'm like, yeah,
put it on. He pulled it, got to his knees
and dropped it, and I went out and pulled it,
put it down. I'm like good, that was it, and I.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Had held the that's all you needed.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, I held the nast deadlift record. For probably ten
years at that point, until somebody has clearly broken it.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
What would you say that you're then what would your
favorite lift be? Maybe not the you're supposed to be
interviewing you. I don't get to talk to you. This
is the only chance that I have your undivided attention.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Why all here, you can stay here, come train and stuff.
You can hang out here.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Tell me twice, Okay, I got a room.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
You can come crash here and we can get get
a few days training in and stuff like that, do
some working with you and stuff like that. It'd be
it'd be fun.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah. So what's my favorite event? Yes, it's hard.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
What's that because I mean I said, yeah, it's it's
hard to decide. I mean, especially with when you did
the strongest Man in history. You got to go around
with the other three goofballs. Yeah, yeah, all over and
just lift.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah. That was God, that was fun. That was so fun.
That that carousel lift at uh at Paul Anderson's ranch
with his family on it was was pretty insane. That
was pretty emotional just all the way around, the.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
One that everybody thought was going to kill you.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yes, well if it fitted. I missed the platform when
I went to set it down, it would.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Have Oh yeah, that was terrified that you did it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I don't know what I was thinking when I set
it down, but Brian let me know about it shortly
after I could argue with him. That was just not
not real smart, but it was. It was cool getting
to do that with his family on it and breaking.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Down twenty twenty eight pounds yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Twenty seven ninety Yeah, so that was that was pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Just want to think it.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, well, Jenkins and I set the hip hoof for record.
We co still we still co hold that thing twenty.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Five Yeah, and uh yeah giants huh yeah at twenty
twelve giants, Yeah, I think you know.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
So, yeah, it is that. That was a pretty cool
one too. Getting to do that with Mike that was
really special. It truly was, especially Mike's attitude. He's like, yeah,
we're lifting the red Rocket. He's just make it, jokes
about it the whole entire time. It was hard to
keep a straight face when we're going.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
No.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
That guy. He was so freaking funny and so lovable
and so hilarious, just out of control, just just instant fun.
Just he just was. His personality was every bit as
big as he was. No, sure so, but I don't.
It's hard to pick a favorite event because I love

(36:36):
the yolk, I love the Farmer's walk, I love the
front carrier. Yeah. So the eighteen inch deadlift, the fifteen
inch deadlift. I love both of those too. They're very,
very well at those. I think at fifteen inches, I
did his seven seventy axle for thirteen reps in sixty seconds,

(37:00):
which I think is still a little record. I don't know,
I not paying attention to it anymore, but that that
was pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yes, still the undefeated record.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, I uh, just uh, there's just a lot of
stuff that's just been so much fun. I'd loved Medley's
It's it's yeah. I just love the sport, I really do.
It's just fun. It's hard to pick one thing. I
can pick the thing I could do with that though.
It's overhead press.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Overhead Yeah, it's just lovely to.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Put a bench press in when I was still able
to bench press really well.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Just one. Yeah, when we did the Pro Strong Main League,
one of five championships, the event too was a six
thirty five squad for max reps. Mm hmm, you did seconds? Yeah,
sixty seconds, and yeah, I completed fifteen reps. And I
mean I was only advertised as a powerlifter going into it,

(38:01):
and it was also my first international and my first
pro show, and I was just a wild card invite.
I got a call from from Tyler.

Speaker 7 (38:09):
At almost ten o'clock at night on New Years the
day after New Year's and he's like, hey, you heard.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
About PSL Absolutely, yes, would like to Would you like
to come to it? Yes? You know so yeah, well
somebody else didn't show up, we have the spot, so
you're more than welcome. Okay. So I trained. I was
completely self coached. I've forgotte a yeah powerlifting show that

(38:44):
I had earlier that year, forgone that to just do
like four months of strong man strong man.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Prep mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
On the on the sixteenth rep of that squat though, yeah,
I toore my hands drenth so hour on June June
first of this year. Oh man, yep, that was so
that was fun.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
How did you deal with that tunetoasle Did you just high?

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Yeah? Just super high bar? It was because yes, absolutely,
I'm low bar all the way. So in training, I
all I did was I kept the percentage pretty close
to the max weight of the of the show. I

(39:36):
was I'm a comfortable six hundred pounds squatter anytime of
the year with equipment. Without equipment, bar neves doesn't matter.
But training for that is the reps, because no power
lifters training, you know, eighty They're eighty percent for m
RAP almost on an almost on a weekly basis. What

(39:58):
I did is I just got those big, squishy pliole boxes,
and I just got an assortment of different sizes. They
went down like four inches. I started up really high
and I would just do all these like quarter reps
of six hundred, and then I'd move it down four
inches like another ten percent. Finally I was able to

(40:19):
get comfortable sets of a dozen full range of motion.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
So yeah, smart, really really smart.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Now my powerlifting squat went straight to eight hundred.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah exactly. It's it's crazy how they go back and
forth and actually help each other. I mean it's kind
of like if I can pull, if I can pull
five hundred for twenty, I know I'm between seven hundred
and fifty and eight hundred from the floor.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
It's just one of those things, and so you don't
have to beat yourself up. It's still beating yourself up,
but you don't have to beat yourself up as bad.
But there's a trick with the two inch acksle that
you could low bar it too.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
Really, yeah, I don't have as much real estate up
here as it's not the real estate.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
It's not. That's not what does it? Okay, your wrists,
your hands, right, piece of tape, put it here, Put
it all the way down to here, four of them
in your hands. Tape one piece around here, two pieces
around here, but make it so you can still close
your hand to tape your wrist like you'd be taping

(41:36):
your wrist. Come down here, put another piece of tape,
then put your wrist traps on. Go squat, I'm gonna move.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Nope. And I don't remember there being rules against like
athletic tape and at PSL either.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Nope. Did that World Strongest Man after I learned that
In twenty eleven, Eddie beat me by one rep in
the squad World's Strongest Man, And it was because my
wrists were just getting bent back. And you see in
the finals, I got these, I got my biceps taped
up because it like just nearly destroyed my biceps. So

(42:15):
then in the twenty eighteen World Strongest Man, we had
that squad again. I take my wrists. I did eight
reps and co tied for first in that event. It
works pretty good. I was able to low bart and
didn't have any problem home on.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
You lost once and you took it personally as a powerlifter.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yep, exactly so. But that's a little trick with that
that'll really make a big difference when you're trying to
squad with a two inch acksle because those things just
want to go down your back.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Oh yeah, that's what the majority had, especially when they
hit the blocks. I could tell a lot of guys
did not train to their actual depth mm. One thing
that people were screwing up, so they would actually go
all the way down to correct depth where their hips
were below the top of the knee m hm. And

(43:10):
you had Tyler and uh Greg, Pope Joy and Bobby
Thompson all vetting these depths so they were death and
oh wait, I'm sorry. And Chad cooy of course, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
he was there chirping and every single one that wasn't

(43:31):
hitting depth.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah, I love. I can still call Chad Cooy old man.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
The uh uh, the fact the fact that I got
complimented about my depth by Chad. I've taken that with
me every day.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Oh you should. Absolutely, it looked great. I was watching
the video earlier today. I was just like, thank you,
Holy cow.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
You wouldn't have You wouldn't have been able to tell
that I tore my hamstring because of how happy I was. No.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah, you came out there. You just got this big
old smile on your face, and I'm like, wow, that
was freaking cool.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Yeah. No, I was just happy to have a squad event.
All these other strong man did not care to have
a squat man. I was the only one that was excited.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah yeah, and it should be squat that you can
squat pretty damn good. I think you can probably do
a whole a lot more.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
My lifetime goal is a thousand raw, so m h.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, and what weight class.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
It doesn't matter. I just want a thousand. Wrong, because
nobody asked what weight class you squated a thousand raw,
and they just wanted to squat a thousand.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
That's true. They don't they don't, so, but.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
I'm sorry you waigh to seventy. Oh see, it would
have been impressive if you were two forty nobody else
so how much Now I walk around at two thirty
two thirty five, I've never been above two forty ever.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Okay, and you're squatting eight oh five pretty comfortably that
weight right now?

Speaker 4 (45:14):
I was. I squatted. Uh, I squatted eight oh five
in my prep for the WPF Worlds. I was two
twenty five, so yeah, but I wasn't like I wasn't
maintaining or losing. I was just coasting whatever. If healthy
is healthy.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
So I think two sixty five would probably be your
magic number.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Historically, looking I looked up men's like the best men's
powerlifters and strongmen in their heights versus their weights. Right
for powerlifting, I should not be at two twenty anymore.
Minimum two forty two, majority two sixty five and strong man.

(46:01):
It goes both ways, right, relatively speaking, at my height,
I'm a great two thirty one. There's been other amazing
two thirty ones that have I mean, you had Nick Camby,
he was a one O five, Anthony Anthony Furman one.
I mean other great one o fives that have come out,

(46:24):
done bigger and better things outside of one O five.
But around the six foot mark is where they all are.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah. I think at that weight you'll be able to
handle all the static stuff that everybody else is. It's
just going to be some of the explosive events like
the BAP tosses or getting the stones up to the
higher platforms and stuff like that. That's the type of

(46:52):
stuff where technique and learning how to use implements that
are within the rules, Like you could probably load the
heavy stones, you just gotta catch it on the belt.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Yeah, And that's that's the issue I have, is that,
like I have plenty of Yeah, I have plenty of
strength to pick and lap. Afore the heaviest I've lapped
is a four to twenty stone, plenty of strength right
off the floor. Yeah, not not the rest to get
it to a fifth at least a fifty inch platform though, Yeah,
And it doesn't matter. And it doesn't help that I'm,

(47:28):
you know, shorter than all the other guys that are
doing that weight.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Oh yeah. But there's no rules against boots either.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
No, there's not. And looking back at some of your videos,
I would just why is he wearing boots? Is it
just comfortable? That's why I was wearing boots Yeah, it's
like no, because he's shorter than all the other mass
monsters that are out there.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
So everything that a Brian Shaw height.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
So when you're doing stones, put some boots on, you
pick up an extra three inches. It makes a difference.
It makes a difference, just just that much able to
get it up and the little pop it'll go right
up on top.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Stone picking at a deficit.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah, correct, Well if you notice the look at the
way I picked stones though, I don't get all the
way underneath the stones, no, I'm on the nges, just
past the apex.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Yeah. And you also don't stand all the way on
top of them either, correct, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Pull them straight up, stuff like dead lift them.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Land mine row.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Are yell from hell.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
It's just one it's it's just the land mine rows.
If you do those for training, well that's the whole point.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Yeah. Some like uh lighter sandbag rdls from just like
floor to shoulder, one fluid, you know, just one motion. Yeah,
that'd beye mobility.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah, we used to do stuff like that. We go
and get like a two hundred and twenty pound bag
and then just throw over each other's shoulder. I go,
you go, I go, you go, I go, you go.
We do that, so we couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Somebody throws up. Yep, No, we just keep going through
even after.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
You know, as long as you could keep going. We
kept going and ended up around ten to twelve sometimes
fourteen fifteen reps. But we were worked after that. We
were done. It was like the last thing we do.
It'd be conditioning, or to do the carrying drags. We
always used to do, like the two hundred and fifty
pounds or three hundred pounds sandbag for like twenty five
pounds for twenty five meters and then drag it back.

(49:57):
We do a couple sets of those and you were
just gassed, or the cake or the keg and sand
bag loading mid least, we'd do a lot out in
the heat. Yeah, so it's one hundred and ten degrees outside.
We'd be on the street doing that. You know. You'd
load a three hundred and thirty pound keg, a two
hundred ninety five pound keg, a two hundred and seventy

(50:17):
five pounds sand bag, and a two hundred and fifty
pounds sound bag.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Yeah, you have some. You'd have some that like the
ones in Africa, where you'd be trudging through a river.
Oh wow, doing those carries, and then if you dropped
it in the water, you just made it heavier.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
The only bag out of the water was an incentive.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Very much so. The only the only good part about
that was but you don't realize those bags weren't full
of sand.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
They were full of rocks there. Oh okay, yeah that
was sand. That'd been terrible.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Well, they were. They were worse with the rocks because
it hurt.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Oh yeah, I'm sure that they can. You know, gravel.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
It was more gravel than it was like rock ross.
So they were small, but the water would flow through them.
It's still making it heavier at least. Yeah, it's not
gonna be if it was like yeah, you'd be screwed.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Yeah, it's kitties play sand. Yeah, it just went from
three hundred to four hundred.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Well, you know, guys, we're getting pretty close to that hour,
and so uh, let's shift gears. I hate to break
down a conversation, but we could get it could go
on forever, trust me.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Yeah, it's really good. My fault, No.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
No, no, no, it's a right.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Hey, Like I said, part of my job is to
make sure that we stay on task, and uh, sometimes
it's hard to pull the rip cord. But uh, actually,
before we end today's show, I wanted to actually talk
about the Rogue Invitational since we're are fresh off of it.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
You know what I'm saying, Literally just happened.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
This weekend and it was a pretty gnarly show, you
know what I'm saying. And we don't have to go
through every event, but uh, you know, we can just
talk about the go through the leader board and you
kind of just discuss what we thought as for the
whole day, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
So you know, uh, we'll start at number nine, Patty
Hayes at twenty one points. You know, I've seen him
at World's Strongest Man for the first time last year
and talk about a strong light. You know, he's not tall,
he's not light, he's not heavy, but man, he's got movement.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah. No, he's quick, He's real quick, and he's not
bad on the static strength He's not. He's he's going
to be hell to deal with for a while because
if you give him any speed events, he's good Yeah
at misery events. Speed events and misery events. So long
distance carrying things. Yeah, you're yeah, he's gonna be a

(52:49):
lot for people to deal with. So he'll be a
little bit short on some of the static stuff, but
he'll hold his own enough to where on the good
events he can, he'll sneak in there and break stuff
up really well.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Oh yeah, when you think about how you feel about
Patty there, Jeff.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Patty and I are the same age, so and I
mean he's much larger than me though, So it's good
to see, you know. I guess that I think of
myself as really young in the sport, and obviously guys
like Reino and Patty being as young as they are

(53:29):
competing comfortably at that level at least top ten. I mean,
he is statically strong, but mainly movement based. Any I think,
you know, like we were talking earlier, makes this experience.
I'm sure. I'm sure in a couple of years he's
going to be just dominating podiums.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Oh yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
The biggest problem with the younger guys is they get
into this and they start doing real and get invited
and everything, start owning everything. Big mistake, big mistake. And
you see, guys, that's why.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
I've forgotten OSG this year. Lynn Morehouse reached out to
me personally on a phone call and invited me to OSG.
And as much as everybody has told me that I
would be on the podium, as much as I believe
myself that I could be on the podium, I just
know I'm tapped out. I've competed six times this year
all you know, like national, national, international level shows and

(54:30):
setting records at every show I've been to. It's you know,
I don't want to call it and that's important, and
that's important that you know already lost one hamstring this year.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Yeah, exactly. That's how you're going to last. It's it's
that type of foresight. That's how you're gonna last. Keeping
it to five six shows a year at most and
then coming in and being ready for the shows, you know,
and get your body downtime so you can train and
do that. The only person there's a couple of guys

(55:04):
that seem to be successful at that, Sojournis being one
of them. But so Journa's was so far ahead of everybody.
When you go to these contests in Europe, the weights
were all lighter. He was just stronger than everybody else.
So it was just a decent training pay for him,
you know. So it's he was able to win so
many shows that way and smart good on him because

(55:24):
that's the way he got his training. And plus he
got used to traveling and all the other stuff and
all the things you had to deal with that with
food and stuff like that. He was very there's nothing
that guy didn't know. It really wasn't to be prepared
for a show. But that is Brian. You know, Brian

(55:45):
lasted forever. Brian did like three four major shows a
year and that's it. That's it, maybe two or three
sometimes and he would get ready, come out and just
let it fly. So longevity is the key to this.
And you know, if you're not what he's the shows,
his training and you actually go try to win him,
you know, keeping that number under six or seven is

(56:09):
pretty darn smart. So good job job, all.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Right, exactly.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Yeah, and we have number eight at Rhin O'Neill.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
He was, you know, twenty twenty five world strongest man
at twenty eight point five points. You know, I know
he's he's uh the youngest, uh was it? They said
fifteen years since a rookie came in and won World's
Strongest Man and.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
The only South South African.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, and I you know, you
I didn't know what to expect. They didn't know what
I was gonna see, you know what I'm saying. But
also to the rogue is heavy.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Well yeah, and he's young. The rogue is really heavy,
and there's some really odd efense, you know, pushing that,
pushing that like I don't know whatever they call that.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Sol in like the Yoka s splater and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yeah, it was freaking brutally and if he's not prepared
for stuff like that and doesn't know what's coming, it's
gonna be a little bit of a shock. And this
contest didn't have a lot of his strengths in it anyway.
But it was good. It was good for him to come.
It was good for him to compete and get more
experience and get a show like that underneath his belt

(57:20):
because he's got a title of Defend coming up.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
So yep, it's good.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
And then we have number six, Thomas Evans. Thomas Evans
actually we talked about him, had him on our previous
show Legends of Iron and on the Best Experience of
numerous times.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
And.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Oh, I did all. Austin pardoned me. Austin, I completely missed.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
I just glanced at my screen Austin Androtte and I've
actually had him on my show and he wants to
be on the on the show as a guest too,
so we definitely need to get him on.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
And he came in at thirty points.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Yeah, he had a good show, But I think it just.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
A couple of events, huh, another young guy like all
the all three of the Last Good Guys are thirty, yeah, thirty,
twenty nine and twenty eight yep. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
And then Big Tom Evans came in. He got that's it.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
We watched his career grow as he's come up in
this scene because we've had him on from when he
was he just won the Shot Classic all the way
to his first World Strongest Man.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Yeah. But I think Thomas did pretty good at the
Strongest Man on Earth. Yeah, and that show's pretty darn heavy.
And then he got ready and came into the Rogue
and you know, just a different type of show. So
he's still still hanging in there. I mean he was
tired exactly.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
And Bryce Johnson at five with thirty four point five,
like I said, tied with Thomas Bryce's scan.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
He is ridiculously strong, good head on his shoulders.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Man, he's wide, he's wide and tall.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Yeah, and nicest guy you'll ever meet, he really is.
He's really nice, dude. I don't his potential where he
could go with this. It's kind of scary because he's
improving by leaps and bounds. I mean from year to year,
year to year. It's not like a small jumps, they're like,

(59:32):
so he does that a couple more years and he
could be winning all these things. They're pretty darn close
to it. So in fourth we have Lucas Hatton at
thirty seven point five points.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Yeah, surprised, Hey, same same, I was surprised. I was
looking for second place, third place for him.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
To fall, yes, and but uh, you know eight, he.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Just like I said, the second place, the strongest man
on Earth just did strongest word America's strongest man and
then immediately into the rogue that you know, like that
could have been a strategy plan that might have heard
him a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Just fatigue? I mean, you were all humans, so and
and he had three major shows within six months.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
So yep, agreed. Yes, I figured he'd be first or
second in this show.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Yeah, because there's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
A lot of incident for him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
But exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Fourth by a point is not bad. And you had
the guys with all kinds of heart because I think
he was in seventh place after the first two events.
That would be Tom Tom and made podium.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
So yes, he did. That's that's exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Him not being so good on the y escalator definitely
put him back.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Yeah, so exactly. And then the big Thicket himself.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Yeah, Trey, you know, yeah, Trey, you know, fun guy,
hilarious guy. I always enjoy hanging out with him when we're.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
At the shows. Man, super strong, super strong.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
And it got with thirteen reps on which.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
On the on the shoulder press, no Viking press. No,
that was twenty two.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Yeah, Trey got twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Yeah, twenty two. Yeah, Yeah, there you go. I had
a mixed up twenty two which was insane.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Yeah, it was either going to be him or Lucas.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I figured. I figured
to be one of the two of them first or second.
And in that and Trey, Trey, Trey came out with
the overhead press this week, so that's that's good. I
mean he put up, he did it. He put up
twenty two, which is absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Insane, insane.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
You know, it's crazy because, like I said, Tray just
started using a suit for deadlifting because he's been doing
it without a suit for so long. You know, once
he dials that in his deadlift is gonna fucking just
be through the roof.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
It's a pretty big difference to do with the blood
pressure on that and get used to pay you need
at least a good what do you think, Jeff? Probably
six to eight weeks pulling in a tight suit to
get used to it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Oh, yes, absolutely. I mean the first time I throw
in a suit, I thought that it's like, oh the
gear does it for me? And then I almost pass
out getting into position.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Exactly. It's just like, oh my god. And then you
take a nap.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Yeah, and to take a nap. And I had set
up to get into conventional which doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Exactly. So like watching I remember watching Eddie set up,
it was the same way. Yeah, me eat it exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
It's like Boom pulls eleven hundred pounds. You're just like, yeah,
I tell you what. The most impressive deadlift I've ever
seen him do. Was that the twenty seventeen Worlds on
this span he dead because there we were using an
axle that year.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Yeah, he did.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
One thousand and forty seven on an axle. The bar
did not move, It did not get.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
It's I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, all these guys that are deadlifting and all this
weight the bar is given, you know that much before
the weights come off the ground. I think he got
all thousand and forty one before the bar came off
the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
That's it anyway, I digress, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Then we get on to the guy who won.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Yeah, oh yeah, Mitchell whoa.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Ay it showed up. Yep, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
He made a statement here at this show, and I
definitely feel the you know, not competing it. August Man
on Earth, you know, rested himself up, got himself prepared,
set up that training, and Mitchell Hooper is who Mitchell
Hooper is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Yeah, it looks like a lot of things in his
life got settled in, Things got got straightened out, and
he got his head screwed on right. He got some
rest that he needed, he got some mental rest that
he needed. Seems happy and just came out and let
it fly and just kind of reminded me, just kind
of reminded everybody, Hey, I'm a freaker. Good luck I'm

(01:04:33):
catching me.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
And yeah, I mean after his show showing at Giants,
everybody was just like, nope, he's watched, he's done his
heydays over with. I mean he didn't have a major injury. Yeah,
he just wasn't rested a while going on up here.
Everybody's seen what went on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
It's all through the internet.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Love him or hate him, he did exactly what he
needed to do to make sure not only he was
on the podium, but he only he only didn't take
first or second in one event. He was first or
second all the way through. So after event for you
knew what the podium looked like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
There's there's because he doesn't make those mistakes.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
No. He also, like we were talking about earlier, like
logical athletes. Yeah, most he's one of them. Yeah, you
can tell. He like takes apart every little every little
movement seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
What He'll come up and he'd be like, what are
you doing this? What would you do? I tell him
what I do and he'd look at me, I'm gonna
try that, and then he goes out and does it
and he wins the event. He's like, gives me a heart,
and he keeps talking and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Like, yeah, he's Mitchell Hooper's first year at World Shrongest Man.
He called Nick and was like, hey, well you know
and guess what.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
It it worked out for him, And numerous times he's
trained at Nick's house, you know what I'm saying, had
full on conversations about strategy events, and you know it's
just like that guy is he's on the point.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Yeah, he's probably right now in my opinion, he's probably
the smartest one doing it pretty much. He can figure
out how to do things better than probably everybody else
right now, and then he's figured out how to be
statically strong on literally everything.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
There's totally agree, Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Because of the way that he trains, you can you
can tell that he's not necessarily great at one thing.
He's not bad at really anything either, but he's not
like he's not like Trey and Lucas are too pressing.
We know if there's a press event and one of
those two names are on there, they're going to make
a fool of everybody. Mitch not so much. M No,

(01:06:56):
but he he is just really really good at everything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
That's the thing. He'll be top three. He might not
be first or second, but he'll be third.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
Yeah, he's and then my points every time.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Every time, every time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
So and this is his third Rogue championship, right yep
uh or fourth.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Third, third for first place his first showing he did
yet third. So I mean historically he's ever since he's
shown up, he's been on the podium.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Exactly exactly, and that's been the whirlwind of his career.
Is just podium, podium, podium, And you know, it's it's
great to see this because like I said, he he's
a different size of strong man. And that's the size
that's starting to come up now all the young guys,
a lot of you get you're you're getting a lot more,
not as many power valleys as it used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Well yeah, bigger is not necessarily better more athletic, but
statically sure.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Because you guys see guys like Reino and Patty and
Mitch like all those, all those type of builds are
showing up more and more. They look like something I
heard somebody say, they look like plus size one, oh fives.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
Yeah, there we go. Yeah, that's a good way to
put it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Derek back in the day poundstone, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
it was you know, six foot yeah, shredded thirty and shredded,
you know, and he.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
Looked like he was looked like he was in a
bodybuilding for most of the time. Yes, yeah, it does
the crazy thing. You look fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
And it's just like you talked to him, He's like, yeah,
I ate, uh, I ate a whole sleeve of oreos
and then I did that, did that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
You're just like, oh, it must be nice. Yeah. But
other guy yeah, HUDs yeah, mud shredded yeah. And he
was also a shorter guy. Yeah, yeah, he was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Yeah, yeah, no, dude. Like I said, it'll be some
technique things and then it's you know, wearing bigger boots
when you have a certain time, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Just there's tricks to the trade.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Nick can only give out when we're off off recording,
so we'll leave it at that, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
And uh yeah yeah. And you know, like I said,
I think we've covered quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
We didn't cover movies, but you know what, we can
always put that off for next week.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Jeff, thank you for showing up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Thank you for enjoying us and rambling with us, because, uh,
you know, it's not too often we get a guess,
but when we do get a guess, we like to enjoy,
especially because you got to dig into Nick a little
bit more than most people do. So you know what
I'm saying that that was That was a plus right there,
because a lot of times I get to hear new
things that he forgets to tell me about.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
Oh yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Yeah, I forget a lot of stuff. Now I'm getting old.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Well, we're can we find where? Can?

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Oh go ahead, Nick, Jeff you're up for doing this again?

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
Absolutely, sir?

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Okay, you up for coming here?

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Oh don't worry. We'll make that happen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
So we'll do this again when you come out and train.
We'll go through Starman stuff, will have fun and partloating stuff, and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
That'd be great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Get Ben, Oh yeah, Jeff. Let everybody know where to
find you. And I also put it in the show notes.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
My main platforms Instagram, it's my first underscore last name
g E O F F Underscore l A N E Y.
I post daily. I respond to a lot of messages.
I get a lot of younger guys especially a lot
of military individuals asking me questions, especially military first responder

(01:10:49):
l e oh get questions all the time, really high
tempo day to day lives. Can't figure out how to train,
can't figure out how to do X, Y and Z.
I probably have been there, so please reach out to me.
I love getting being a part of that community. I
love helping out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
All right, we're doing next time guns. Yeah, please, we
didn't get into any not today either, so no.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
Not even a bit when you come out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Oh yeah, get that fifty cal out mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
We keep saying we're gonna blow up a car, but
quite haven't done it yet.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
Two hundred pounds of tanner. I will do it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
We'll do that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Maybe you know what I'm saying in theory.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yes, yes, yes, So anyway educational services only.

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Well, we'll have proper fire fire fire department people around
that rule permits and things like that that we need to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Have, you know, we will We will have those, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
So we don't so that doesn't on fire. So yeah, okay, anyway,
you got anything else?

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Oh no, just lead us out here. Everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Thank you for joining the Patreon. We appreciate it. You
know what I'm saying, and for those who join, ask
your questions, what's your thoughts, philosophy, whatever you want to
hear ask us and Nick will answer. I will always
throw in my own two cents, but I know you
really want to hear from Nick, so it's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Anyway, Jeff, thank you for being on greatly appreciated and
it's a lot of fun. And I we're turning through
more of your stuff next time too, because it wasn't
to interview me, it was me to interview you, and
it feels like it was the other way around.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
So hey, if I get an hour of undevoted like uninterrupted, Nick,
best time, I'm going to ask my questions.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Which is cool.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
And I appreciate that you are a living legend, sir,
and it's an absolute blessing and an honor to be
a part of this. Thank you so much for reaching out.
I would love to do this again. Hopey I can
make it out your wife for the next one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Yeah, well, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Definitely, And everybody else here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Is always thank you so much. Like sharing, subscribe and
please share this and as always, train hard, train smart,
and be the best you can you out there, and

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
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