Supernatural Cyptids, Entities & Weird Phenomena: Kevin Sapiel, Jr. of Where the Weird Ones Are

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
In the nineties or early two thousands, a gentleman had
a submarine and he comes across this thing and it
looks like a lake underneath the water, and he's bouncing
off of it. There's a video of it, and everything
you can see it looks like a lake, looks like
water underath water. So that's where that idea comes from,

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is the fact that maybe we could somehow get through there,
and maybe there's a whole nother world in there. Who
knows is it more water or is it dry, or
will be coming up like in Ping Kong, or you
can come through the hole and then you're on another side,
in another world. But he was killed in a helicopter
shortly after he in a helicopter accident shortly after he

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released that video.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
This is a cross Files podcast brilliantly blending enlightenment and engagement.
This thought provoking show explores ancient and modern tops through
a biblical lens, offering listeners a fresh perspective on historical mysteries,
spiritual encounters, and current events with a focus on the supernatural.
Your hosts, Michael and Jerry bring a unique, insightful viewpoint,

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encouraging listeners to embrace the spiritual significance behind the veil.
Join them on a fascinating journey to broaden your horizons
and uncover the supernatural aspects of life.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Welcome to the Crossbows Podcast otherwise known as the Stranger
cloub Podcast. I don't have my partner in podcast Crime tonight,
Michael bashm because he is dealing with the family emergency
right now. So if you keep him and his family
and your prayers family, his wife's mom, please pray for
his wife's mom that she would have healing for her
ailments and I'm not sure exactly what fkindish it is

(01:59):
by and if you could just pray for her, and
that's Michael's mother in law, So if you keeper and
your donsin prayers and anyway, So, I am very blessed
to have Kevin Safield Junior as our wonderful guest tonight,
and Michael and I were blessed to be on his
show a few months ago and wanted to return the favor.
And even if he didn't have us on his show,

(02:22):
we would still probably want to ask him on our
show because he's so fun and interesting and so welcome.
Welcome Kevin, how are you?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm good thanks for having me. It was truly a
blessing to be able to talk to you guys on
my podcast. You Guys. Michael definitely brings quite a bit
of humor humor to this show for sure. Yes, he's
very theatrical in the way that he talks, and I
absolutely love I love that and you guys' podcast is

(02:51):
pretty great, and I feel I feel honored to be
here with you and to be able to converse with
you a second time is amazing.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
You're amazing, bro. I'm so glad that you're on board
and calmed out some time for us. And we say, asked,
my would I think of us? I think of Michael.
But even though he's not here with us, he's with
us in spirits. So thank you so much, Kevin for
your time. We're honored and blessed to have you on board,
and it's a lot of fun talking to you. And
you've got a great podcast yourself, where the weird Ones

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are So Ken, tell us a little bit about your
background and how you got into podcasting, all right.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
First of all, I just want to say that I
used to think that podcasts were really dumb. I was like,
what in the world would possess somebody to sit there
and listen, because I even thought talk radio has got
a little annoying at times too, because there's some morning
shows and stuff that on the regular, like the local
channels of radio. But anyway, so I was like, I wouldn't.

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I'm never listening to podcasts, like podcasts are stupid. And
it was twenty twenty. Obviously we know, we all know
what happened in that time, and a friend of mine
started a podcast and he was doing it out of
his basement, is more like a Joe Rogan style kind
of thing, and so I was able. He had me

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as a guest on his show, and he's a little
bit of a he's a little bit conspiracy driven, and
he opened my eyes to a lot of interesting things
back then in that time. And he's come on, Mandy's
there's this really good podcast that I listened to you
because it'll open your eyes, and blah blah blah. I
was like, man, it's got a podcast, let's say, way,

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I don't want to listen. He's literally come on. And
then I was at work one day listening to music
and I was just listening to the same songs are
in my playlist over and over again, and I was
just like, all right, let's see what this podcast is about.
So I started listening to it and I started enjoying it.
And then they had a on this podcast it's a

(05:00):
conspiracy podcast. They had a podcaster who does essentially what
we do is interview people about paranormal experiences, and they
had him on the show and he told this wild
story about people that he's had on the show on
his show, and I was like, man, I think I

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want to start a podcast. So I texted my friend.
I was like, I think I want to think I'm
going to start a podcast. He's what is it going
to be about? I was like paranormal. I was like, paranormal, supernatural, hauntings,
all that stuff, aliens, I'm not throwing in conspiracies too,
because why not? And then spirituality, religion and stuff. So

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we talked a lot about that and through the podcast
I ended up I might be jumping jump jumping the
story ahead. But anyways, so when I started, so I
started it and I just really wanted to talk to
people about like fringe things. So basically typically the whole
podcast is about fringe topics, the paranormal conspiracies, truth stuff, God, demons,

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and how to overcome things, and it became mental health stuff.
I've had my own struggles with mental health and having
I've had some crazy experiences paranormal wise, to where I
felt like I was crazy. So I really wanted to
drive home the mental health aspect and let people know

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that they're not alone. And it become pretty much the
mental health aspect has become my niche in a sort
of way. And what better needs to have than to
advocate for mental health? You know what I mean? Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I completely agree.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
All right. So my most gnarliest or scary experience paranormal
with supernatural wise, I guess, well, I have two stories
that I could probably tell, So I think it was
about twenty fifteen twenty sixteen ish area. My ex wife

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and I had just split up, and I had the
house to myself, and it was one of the nights
that I didn't have my kids with me and I
had to it was a work night and I was
trying to sleep. I lived out in the middle of woods,
had a farm next to me. I couldn't see my

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neighbors from my house. I had a long driveway and
almost like every day there was a different, different kind
of animal in my yard. There's deer, turkey. I had
pigs in my yard one time, had an escape cow
in my yard one time. Wait, this particular night, I'm

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in bed, I'm sleeping, I'm fast asleep. I was probably
enjoying it. I don't know, but I woke up to
my dogs just freaking out. And I remember waking up
and throwing my pillow at them, trying to get them
to shut up, and they they were scratching out the

(08:18):
wall trying to get to the window. And I'm just like,
what is going on? So I get up and I
look out the window and just to like the side
of me. So there was there was this big rock
wall that divided my property from the farm property. And
the farm property had this big open open fields before

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you even got anywhere to any of their buildings. So
you get like looking at this field from my yard,
you couldn't even see their buildings yet. And then and
there was there was some moonlight, so there was you
couldn't really quite see in the tree line, but you
could see through. There was fall. The thing was October,
and I know that there was like a little to know,

(09:01):
leaves on these trees, which made obviously made it easier
to look through, and I could see coyotes and I
could hear them. Well, I heard them first, and I
could see them, and they were running back and forth
in the field close to the tree line, but not really,
but they would get close to the road and then

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they would come back towards the woods that were behind
my house, so they would go out that once they
got to the side of the house, because the window
I was looking at was to the front of the house,
so once they went to the side in the yard,
in that field over there, I couldn't see them anymore.
And I was just like, I looked at my dogs,

(09:44):
and I'm like, that's just coyotes. Coyote you hear them
all the time. And it was like five of them,
I think. But as I'm saying that, I look up
and in the moonlight, the little bit of moonlight that
was shining through the trees, I see this little, this
little coyote coming down my driveway and I was like,
what the heck, And it's limping, and I'm like, oh boy.

(10:08):
I was like, I'm gonna have to go out there
and help this coyote. But at the same time, an
injured coyote is a scared coyote, which could cause you
to get attacked. I didn't know it at the time.
I know that now, so I'm never probably never gonna
attempt to help out a coyote anyway. So this thing
is limping down the driveway, and so I go to

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I leave my room and I go to the front door,
and the dogs follow me, and they're trying. They're scratching
at the door, trying to get out the door, and
I flick on the light, and the coyote stops right
outside the light. You know how there's like a beam
there when from light from illuminating from the illumination. So

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I'm sitting just outside of the light in the darkness,
and I'm looking through the window of my door, and
I'm just like, oh, man, I really feel like I
need to go out there and help this thing. And
so I looked back into the field just so that
I could tell that none of the other coyotes are

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gonna see and witness me going out there to help
this one, because you get more than one or two
of them together at the same time might be attacked.
So anyways, I grab a hold of the doorknob, and
I go to turn it to pull it open, and
just as I do that, I'm looking out the window

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and I see these two red eyes and it's by
this boulder, this boulder I remember being standing next to,
and it was taller than me. Okay, and it's standing
behind this boulder. So this boulder had to be at
least six foot. So this thing, whatever this thing was,
was taller than six feet. And from my perspective, if

(12:05):
it's standing behind that, behind that rock, And instantly I
got this like overwhelming sense of dread. And I locked
the door and I shut the light off. And as
soon as I shut the light off, that kyote he
perked up and then ran out, ran off down the down,

(12:25):
back down the driveway, and then went back out to
the field to join it, to join its friends. And
I was just like, oh, so I ran got my rifle.
I sat on the couch and at the time I
didn't know what to associate it with. But I knew

(12:47):
I associate well, I associated it with it being a demon.
But that is probably one of the most scariest nights
of my life. I sat on the couch for I
don't know how long before I actually fell asleep because
I mean I was scared. I was terrified my dogs,
Like once I saw the thing, my dog stopped barking too,

(13:08):
which maybe they made infra sound. I don't know. But
the more that I started hearing about dog man stories,
the more I started thinking that it was a dog man.
So I think that's what I think it was. I'm

(13:32):
never gonna know at this point, I didn't investigate. In
fact that I think I started telling my kids not
to go over to that rock wall because I was afraid,
but we didn't. We didn't stay there much longer. I
think it was about another year before we moved out.
But my other terrifying event happened in this house. Me

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and my girlfriend just started seeing each other and she
had left and I was going to bed. I get
up super early for work, and I know I was
I think I went to bed while she was here,
and so she she can't said goodbye, as I think
I was in bed, but I could be wrong. Anyways,
So she's gone and I was sleeping and I woke

(14:18):
up to my name being called, so I thought maybe
she forgot something and she came back, so I just
kind of like opened my eyes, and I was like, oh, here,
she was actually gonna come up here. Maybe she wants
to stay the night instead. And then I like, I
was groggy, and I saw a woman in my doorway.
There's a long flowing hair, very volumptuous, had was very curvy,

(14:41):
but it was black. She was all black. It was
like a silhouette almost, but there was no light behind
her anyway, so it's not like an actual silhouette. I
saw it. The minute I saw I realized that I
couldn't move, and I'm like sprawled out on the bed
and my phone is right here next to me on

(15:02):
my bed, so I'm like, I my eyes dart to
I couldn't turn my head, but I could move my
eyes side to side, and I saw my phone sitting
over here, and so I started like doing wiggling my
my fingers, trying to like inch myself my arm closer
to it so I could grab my phone. And as

(15:26):
as soon as I started doing that, it started walking
towards me. And the way it was walking, the best
way that I can describe it is like C three
po like very stiff robotic movement. And I was like,
and I got like even more scared as once. Once
she started walking towards me, I was like, oh my god.

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I was like frantically moving my hand, my fingers and stuff,
trying to grab my phone, and I just I can't
seem to get my hand to move. And then this
thing gets to the foot of my bed and it's
about there, like looks like it's about to crawl in
my bed. And then I just break out of the
paralysis of move and grab my phone, light up my phone,
light up my room, and she was gone, nothing was there.

(16:12):
And it was scary. So I don't know. I don't
know if it was something pretending to be my girlfriend
or if it was something that was that wanted me
to feel comfortable with it, but it couldn't quite get
normalcy down enough to make me feel comfortable, and so

(16:35):
that movement made me on the way it moved, like
so a volumtuous woman in my bedroom in the middle
of the night. But if it was a stranger, that
would have been scary too. I don't know. It was
really really weird. It was really weird. I had a

(16:57):
friend tell me that the hallway to my upstairs was
really dark, like as an energy, so I've invoked the
name of Jesus a few times in that hallway, and
every time I do, whatever it is that I'm looking
at just disappears, So I don't know. Yeah, so that's

(17:23):
how it started. It was really slow at first. I
just wanted to interview people, and the first couple episodes
were terrible. So if anybody listening to this decides that
they want to listen, I would recommend not the first two,
at least the first two. The first two episodes were

(17:44):
with friends, with people that I know in real life,
not people that I've met through the Internet and stuff
like that, but the audio was terrible, and I still
was like, eh, I'm gonna put it out anyway. So
it took about a year really before the podcast started
taking off and started really getting guests more frequently. So

(18:04):
I've been doing it. I started it in twenty two,
so it's been four years now. No, awesome, almost yeah,
almost four years. That's great. So it's been a lot
of fun. It's been a lot of fun. I met
a lot of people, a lot of Christians, and become
really close with a couple of them, Doc Brown being

(18:27):
one of them. Him and I have become really good friends.
Drew Ski from where I almost said my own podcast
from Cryptid Warfare podcast and Conspiracies. He's a Christian and
I talked to him a lot about God and stuff
like that, and yeah, so I started seeing a lot

(18:50):
of through this podcast journey, not only in my personal
life but through the podcast as well. Has Got has
been showing up more and more in my life ever
since the podcast started, and I just feel like, if
that is I've always believed anyway, but I wasn't like

(19:13):
fully on board. I always had a belief in something hot,
bigger and more than myself and like a creator entity.
And I just I felt like, if he's showing up now,

(19:33):
I must be doing something right. You know what I
mean is this must be the path that I'm supposed
to be on. It really started with my kids, and
I think the best way to get at me for
any kind of reason, whether it be positive or negative,
is through my children, because those are the most significant

(19:54):
things in my life. Right. So we me and my kids, society,
we're gonna get back tides. We're going to get baptized
as Christians. So we just haven't done it yet.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
That's amazing. Thank you so much for telling me your
origin story, and it is interesting how one's children, one's
kids can really plan to seed in the parents' hearts.
Like you said, go are bad and this get good.
And I think talking to us in the show in
which we were guests on your show about how your

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kids have gone on to TikTok to talk about God
and the Bible and everything, tell us about that.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, all of a sudden, my son showed up at
my house and he was wearing a cross around his neck.
And I didn't say anything about it. I've never deterred
them or forced anything. I've never been like, don't believe
in that, don't believe in this, you should believe in this.
I've never been that type of parent. I've always just

(20:56):
been I don't know. The topic really has never come
up on religion. So he showed up at my house
and he's hed check out checks that I got it
on Amazon. I was like, oh, that's cool, and I
was like, do you believe in God? And he goes yeah,
and I go, oh, okay, and he goes, I even
started a TikTok and I go really, I was like, yeah,

(21:19):
I thought you already had a TikTok. He goes, no,
this TikTok. I just share scripture, I share quotes from
the Bible, and I'm like, okay. I was like, and
what what made you want to do that? And he goes,
I don't know, because I just think Jesus is the
way or something like that to that effect. Yeah, And

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then I talked to his mother about it, and his
mother is is a Buddhist, which is not a bad thing,
but at the same time, like she's very not I
don't think she wants she doesn't follow the religion, but
she has a bunch of Buddhist statues in her house.
But she's she's I think she is a little bit

(22:01):
against them wanting to be Christians. To be honest with you,
based off of our last conversation about it, Wow, but yeah,
so I talked to her. I talked to her that
the next day when I was dropping the kids off
with them with her and she's, yeah, she's I don't
She's like, I don't know where this came from. All

(22:22):
of a sudden, he's has a cross around his neck
and he's talking about the Bible and he started. She goes,
he even started a TikTok, and I was like, I know.
He told me, she's he just shares God stuff. And
I ended up having my kids on my podcast. I
can't remember what the episode number was, but he towards
the end of the episode with them because we were

(22:43):
just talking about their experiences and stuff like that, which
wasn't really anything. It could have been just something else
or they were seeing like they just caught like something
out of the corner of her eye which could have
been could be something or could not be something. And
we talked about my parent ding, how I felt about
me as a parent and stuff like that, and towards

(23:04):
the end, my son just started talking about how he
loves Jesus. So that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Wow, very interesting. Now your ex the mom love your
son is do you mind if I ask is she
Caucasian or is she Asian?

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Or yeah? Okay, so do you ask specific?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Okay, she's great. Oh, we have a larger population here
that the Tarta Springs area and lots of lots of
names that ended at ulos or something like that. And yeah,
love love me some Greek food for sure. Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.
So that's neat that your son has a TikTok where
he just talks about the Bible and you have a

(23:48):
large following or a following, and that's really neat that
a young man is bold about his you found faith
and everything. Oh no, it's just say prayer for your eggs.
That she'd come around, and I know that it's times.
It takes a long time, hopefully not. I've been for
one's friends in your case to come around and know
the Lord. I'm been praying for my dad for thirty years,

(24:09):
and just last Father's Day he said that he wanted
to receive Jesus, and I prayed with him for the
first time in twenty or thirty years. Actually, I would
say since I became a Christian, like, I wouldn't I'm
not saying I wouldn't dare to lay in off my
dad's shoulder pray for him, but that was just something
that I didn't feel comfortable doing because he was ambivalid.

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He said, oh it okay for you be a Christian,
and I still Budhist that type of thing. But oh
it's interesting. So she's against him coming to know Jesus,
but she's not totally. She's not really four or against.
She's not like kicking him out of the house or
being abusive or anything. It's just a little bit negative
about it. Yeah, I totally understand. I definitely lived that

(24:52):
way from age sixteen to twenty where he was okay
with me doing kind of light things for God, but
not Oh, he was serious. Do you want to go
to Christian Bible college and they're not going to teach
you anything? That type of So I totally get it. So,
out of all of your podcast guests, tell me the
one that, or maybe the top three that were your

(25:15):
favorite dude to whatever reason be because they were the funniest,
or scariest or the most just stood out for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
That's a hard question to answer.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
But sorry for putting you on the spot.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's all right, Ia, I I know. So I was
thinking about this the other day. I do think I enjoyed.
I can't remember the episode number, but the gentleman's name
is Nick Valente. He's a cop out of New York
or used to be a copy retired Now. Yeah, that

(25:53):
was a good show.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Great show.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
It was he it was is really interesting and he
had a terrifying story of a dog man encounter out.
I believe it was in New York as well, because
he lived in Florida. Now as a retiree which all
old people go to.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Florida's correct.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, yeah, he had. So he found a little kid
child's tricycle flipped over, and he said, not too far
from it was this preacher and he had a big jeep,
jacked up jeep with lights all over the place. He
turned all the lights on and everything he could see it,

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and it turned and looked right at him. He was
probably about ten yards away from the thing, and it
scared him. And he called a bunch of his military
buddies because he was just doing training. He was coming
from training, and they all met him there and he's,
I'm not saying that something happened to a child out there,
but there was a tricycle. He's. I didn't see any

(26:58):
blood or anything, but either way, that to see a
creature like that, and then a child's tricycle tipped over
off the side of the road is goosebump worthy. And
so yeah, so he's had a he's and then he's
known a bunch of people who've had encounters and he

(27:19):
shared some of that stuff as well.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Wow, so there was a creature that mounted the tricycle
it or was it a child that mounted the tricocycle
and then looked at.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Him, so they didn't get on the tricycle. It was
a little bit past the tricycle. Was this being this
dog man creature? And I guess the woodline of the
woods on the cusp of the road there, and he
saw the tricycle first and he stopped to get out
to investigate, and then that's when he saw the creature

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in a separate area but not far from.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
So it may have some maybe they were intertwines. Maybe
the dog man because they feed on fear a lot
of times, that they might have the telepathic or telekinesis
and to move. Maybe it moved the tricycle. Perhaps, Wow,
that is creeping. That is really creeping, like goosebump wordly

(28:22):
for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Absolutely that he has a book, doesn't he He had?
He either it's either coming out or here he has one. Yeah,
one or the other, I can't remember, but yeah he has.
He's my most listened to viewed pod episode of my

(28:44):
entire podcast.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
That's interesting. What would you say would be the one
that stuck with you the most in terms of I
don't know. It could be spiritual truth, it could be
just something maybe you did know before because I know
that we swim at these spaces and we're pretty familiar
with a lot of these different cryptids stories and whatever.
But was there a podcast where you listen to it

(29:09):
and you're like, I never heard of that before before
this person he told me.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
That's cute. I don't know. There's been a whole lot
of mind blowing.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
It's hard to pick.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
You're in there, but nothing that. Really, everybody has. Everybody
that's shared with me new things that I didn't know.
I don't know. It's just it's it's hard to say
which one was the that because they all stick with me. Really, yes,
but I get I don't know. I will say I

(29:47):
would say though that one of my recent episodes, he
didn't share anything with me that I didn't know. So
his name is Joey Garcia, and he can't he's he
first he was a listener, and then he started reaching
out to me, and then he emailed me his testimony.

(30:11):
And I have never cried with somebody that I didn't
know as hard as I did. And you don't hear
it or anything, but his story has stuck with me
the most, I think out of everybody that has been

(30:34):
on he was ready to take himself out, and then
he was just sitting on the side of a riverbank
because he thought that after he did it, he would
fall into the river and be spuck away. That way
his body would never be found and this and that,
and all of a sudden, he heard the voice of

(30:55):
God and he called his wife and she came and
picked him up first. So he decided to crawl out
of the woods, and he was didn't know where he was,
and he came out at a road and one of
the park rangers happened to be right there, and she

(31:15):
asked him if he was okay, if he needed help,
and he goes, He goes, can I borrow your cell phone?
And so he used her phone to call his wife
to come get him. And then the woman told him
that she usually never comes out to this part of
the park at night. She usually just she usually has

(31:38):
already come through at this point. And so he just
felt like it was the grace of God that was
showing him that there was a better way. And so
he's been fighting himself to stick around for his daughter
because he had some traumatic experiences from the military and

(32:01):
he was special Forces.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Oh yeah, that is amazing. How not only he felt
that God was intervening in sparing his life or preventing
him from taking his life by speaking to his heart,
and then also sending this park ranger where she normally
doesn't go a second time, and she even said that

(32:24):
she normally doesn't go a second time to that remote area,
and so they both felt like some sort of divine
intervention there and interesting listen to that. Shit does unfamiliar
to you.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, Tike, it's to twenty two. I think that's the
episode number of that. Wow.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Awesome. I give you at hats off, and I applaud
you very much that you made it to two hundred
and twenty two episodes, because Michael and I had talked
in recent years that, or actually just recently that a
lot of podcasters, I would say ninety percent of them.
I don't know the real statistic, but I did hear
a majority of podcasters after ten or twenty episodes they

(33:07):
quit because it actually, it does take a lot out
of you, and there's a lot of commitment when you're
creaking out one or two a week. In your case,
I used to do that. It was creak out one
or two a week, but I had to reprioritize some
things when my husband and my health and everything, sonow,
but only just doing once a month the commratulations here
in my November monthly against and then I've got gen

(33:27):
Park's effort December. It's just because I've got to do
some other things aside from podcasting. But I really give
you applause with your perseverance. Two or twenty two episodes.
I think we're at this point. I think accumulatively in
the last ten years since I started podcasting, I probably
maybe in my one fifties, but in terms of Crossballs

(33:48):
podcasts were probably upper sixties or seventies or something like that.
I actually took them a numerical episodes off because I
had to take a couple of them. Now that it's
a long story, but there with some drama with one
of them, I should total of them. That's not how
to take them down, so that then it totally messes
up the numerical order if you've got to take water

(34:08):
two down off. But I totally applaud you for persevering
and getting the message out there and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Oh interesting, thank you.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
It's hard to.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Narrow down.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Okay, this was the one that stuck out the most
because all on our guests, me being a podcaster for
ten years of you being one for three, and so
even though you've been doing it for three years, you
probably have more episodes than I do, just because I've
gone through some different things with hell than had to
cease for probably around two years or so cumulatively. There
was one time I would say, afterverts twenty eighteen and

(34:41):
I had to pause because we moved and I had
a hard time finding a job in this country town,
and I then we moved to the city area in Orlando,
and then I shore podcasting in in Bay twenty twenty
and different health things with my husband and with me,
and we have to on and all our So I
wish that I I wouldn't have the solidarity to quick

(35:01):
one out every week and everything, but I know my
husband likes to plan things, and if my podcasting gets
in the way, it could call from frictions. But anyway,
so I just I give you hats off for sure,
thank you. What would you say was the funniest one,
like one that you would just died laughing, almost, like
one that you were just had such a great rapport

(35:22):
with them, that you that both of you are just
laughing all the time.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
So there's been a few, but I guess I'll have
to go with the most recent one, which was with
Juliet and Lisa from Cryptied Women's Society Number one. They
both talk so much, which obviously for as a podcaster hosting.
As a podcast host, that's what you want, right, Yes,

(35:49):
you love people that aren't afraid to talk, and it's
when you get sometimes when you get the people that
are just like short answers and stuff like that, you're
like in the year, you have to work on your
interviewing skills a lot more. The ones that you don't
have to really do that with are so much fun
to begin with. But they were so humorous. They had
me cracking up so much, and it helped that they

(36:11):
had New Zealand accents, so everything sounded funny to begin with,
just because it's different. But it's not like that it's
a bad accent or anything. I actually really enjoy listening to. Yeah,
I love listening to different accents and stuff. And there's
several different just different accents just in America alone, So
listen getting to know them, listening to their stories and

(36:35):
how fun they are and they just had me cracking
up the whole time. We I think the episode is
two hours long, and time just flew by. It was wild,
it was awesome, and that for your listeners, that episode
would be TO twenty seven. Oh okay, and that's literally

(36:55):
the latest one. But yeah, that's the literally the latest one.
And then there's one that TO twenty eight comes out tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Okay, great, can't wait to listen to the latest one,
two twenty eight. And I'm about three quarters of the
way with the Cryptid Women's Society T twenty seven, and
I've really enjoyed listening to them and your banter with them,
and it is neat to talk to people from all
around the world because some, like you said, different accents
and different intonations and emphasis is on different syllables and

(37:27):
just the way they say certain words that we might say,
they say a little differently, and they were animated and
it was interesting to hear their stories, and that's need
that they have it angled just towards women, because I
think in this space that we walk in a lot
of times that who are into conspiracy or cryptids, or

(37:47):
spirituality or Christianity, they tend to be I would say
maybe sixty to seventy percent men. But there's a lot
of women that are interested in us too. And I
think a lot of times when you think of women
podcasters or women content creators, and at least I do.
I know about ten, ten to fifteen years ago, they

(38:07):
women were just there to talk about health and how
to lose weight and how to put on makeup, but
things of that asia. But for a woman to talk
about other worldly entities and creatures that most people don't see,
it's a little different. Oh, it looks like my podcast
partner in crime is about to enter the room. Ladies,

(38:28):
and gentleman Michael Bashan is here. Michael bash.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Hey, hey are you there?

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Hi, hi Hi? Sorry.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
How are you doing?

Speaker 5 (38:41):
Just using audio?

Speaker 1 (38:42):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Just got the kids and awesome wifey went to San
Diego to take care of mother in law.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, thank you, thank you so much. How are you doing?
Looking great? Thank you? Trusting for miracle?

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yeah yeah, La, yes, keep us updated. We'll keep her
in our prayers and thoughts for sure. What's her what's
your mother in law's first name?

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Sandra?

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Sandra? Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm working Sandra on prayer for sure.
We actually prayed for her right before the podcast, in fact,
so we wanted to pray for the podcast. Pray for
you and your family and your mother in law and
things like that. I definitely understand having health issues and
the family. It really affects oneself. And when if health issues,
of course it affects you for sure. Is a lot

(39:32):
to my husband and me. We both have health issues.
That's why I was explaining to Kevin that I'm not
able to crick out one a week like I used to,
but I give you and Kevin hats off for doing
a podcast weekly or in Michael's case, he goes live
like almost every night, like two or three times, four
times a week. So I definitely give yeah for sure,

(39:53):
So welcome Michael, and said, well, Kevin is giving us
his story. He gave us a story. Now he's talked
about the podcast episodes that he did that were the
most remarkable, even though he likes and loves them all,
he wanted to highlight some that really stuck with him,
like I'll just give you the floor even though you're
on the phone and not using video, but go you will.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
I just have to get my makeup on, we get
to see your face now can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Okay, you can hear you and see you?

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, speak, cover hair with your hands. I won't believe
that's all the guys have to do is just comb
brok their teeth, comb their hair, you know, the shame
of legs and paint the tote. Ye gotta wax the
eyebrows and the bus took higloight the hair. We don't
have to hunt, We don't have to do those things,
but we sometimes prefer to do that. Then please go

(40:47):
ahead and ask Kevin when you will common which you will?
You have the ploor? My friend?

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Oh yeah, can nice to meet you. I don't know
if if does he have his video on or no? Anyway,
great to see you, Great to to know you.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
And how are you.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
It's good? Okay, Oh hey, nice to see you man.
Oh great?

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Yeah, wow, Wow, what a wonderful time last time we
got to speak.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I just felt such a presence.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
That was such a special day and we I have
a prayer team and we really prayed for that broadcast
to go well and for you, and I just felt
such a supernatural connection just things that God is doing
and all of our lives right now.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
So that was that unforgettable time.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Did you change your studio or that the same.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Way it was, the same way it was. It just
a little darker now it's okay, darker earlier. Yeah, daylight
saving time?

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Great?

Speaker 4 (41:47):
What's been what's the latest news? What's on your radar?
From one star captain to another? What are you reading
on your charts?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Sir? The chart is reading that? So recent news? So
we when you were on my show, we were talking
about how my kids had helped me come to to
know Jesus a little bit and I've been accepting him
more in my heart. The three of us decided that
we're gonna get baptized, and I've been talking to a

(42:16):
church here in the area. So that's one of the
most recent things. There's a little bit push a little
bit of pushback for mom, but it's like she's she can't.
She wants think good things for the kids and so
that's what's important to her. So she's not gonna fight
them about it. But she is doesn't really care for

(42:39):
religion in general.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
So what's her what's what's mom's name so we can
be Your name is alex Alexandro strong name for a woman. Obviously,
there's a will to can my wife too, Jennifer. It
comes in handy what needed otherwise. Yeah, got to let
them use their motherly instincts and it's all done. And

(43:03):
I feel like they mean well, they're not trying to
be manipulative all the time like we might think. I agree. Wow,
that's such an exciting I'm just it to me. You
are a Bellweather and an indicator of so many people
who have Your story with the mushroom People was so
just it's ingrained in my head now, little mushroom.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
People and all the different things that we both are
interested in.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
But getting into the word and going through the it's
humbling to be presenting yourself to a church and going
through this whole process, and it's humbling for us.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
We're podcasters.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
We know things you could possibly never know, you would
never understand.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
But this is something that is if I made de sers,
dare say so, did bigger than just gathering information the
eternal soul. Like in my family, we're facing some and
death situations like looking over the precipice, and there is
nothing more important than your eternal soul, like nothing any

(44:11):
aliens could be showing up, an ai could be taking
over it. All which are like contrails are all that stuff?

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yeah, and then the weird things that three I at
LISS is doing and oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Tell us about that though what's I don't even this
is how much I've been fasting from the internet.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
I don't even know the latest about it.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
So apparently it's not It's supposed to be a comet,
and there's been two before it, and the tail is
in front of it, and the tail should be behind it,
so it's going forward like it has headlights, so it
it had a it went by Mars, and I guess

(44:54):
it like turned in a way which doesn't seem natural
for a comment. And then it's I think right now
it's behind the sun, and it's supposed to be coming
back and should be coming right by Earth to the
point that we could if it's a clear night when
it comes by a thing. I think the first week

(45:16):
of December we should be able to see it coming by. Okay,
So if it is not a comment, and the actual
cruiser maybe at a land I don't know, but right
now it's behind the sun, so everybody's we don't know
what it's doing. We can't see it.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Thanks to that update, it's good to know, you know,
what our interstellar visitors are up to.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah, apparently the did you have you ever heard of
the Golden Note?

Speaker 5 (45:45):
No, sir, please elaborate.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
So they launched the Golden Note during Jimmy Carter's presidency, okay,
and it holds a whole bunch of stuff about our
like the different cultures on Earth and stuff like that.
Every like a whole bunch of historical stuff inside of it, okay.
And it has recorded all of the different languages on

(46:07):
Earth saying hello and high and stuff like that, like
readings and all this. And apparently it is billions of
light years away, but we are still receiving transmissions for it.
And I was like, and I remember, so they launched it.
I think what when was Jimmy Carter president in the seventies?

Speaker 6 (46:28):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Yeah, run, then I think, I'm yeah, so that there
is about Yes, it's about that time and is in
the so it should have been launched in the seventies.
But we're still receiving transmissions from it, which I was like, man,
I wish my WiFi would work that good. So it's

(46:49):
it's it is. It's interesting. So they're saying that maybe
this the Golden Note might be calling other entities to Earth,
and that might be what three I am lifts.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
What so the three I atlas is possibly like a
hello from another star system? Is what possibly some of
the hypotheses. Okay, interesting, Yeah, we better get ready for
this because I'm always like starting to We're dealing with
things that are way beyond. Even if my astronomy professor
used to get angry with me, I had this affrall

(47:26):
astronomy prop Michael, I see you are really He's well
studied in these.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
And I couldn't help it.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I was researching this stuff like all the.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Time, back in the heyday of the internet twenty twelve
through twenty fourteen. And you can go back and re
research comment eleanin all the podcasts from twenty ten eleven.
We're just buzzing about this comment Eleanin and it was
definitely a spaceship and there are all these lights following
in it might have actually been, but nothing happened all

(48:00):
the events.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
You're like, okay, but I was so interested in this.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
I was like twenty nine or thirty, and I really
angered him and.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
When he failed me, Michael, I am not feeling you
because of your interest inde these conspiracies, but you're not.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
You failed to complete some of my nants.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
So I look back on one thing he said that
really suck with me is just the stuff that we
know that is confirmed is so amazing and mysterious that
even if there even if all the conspiracies weren't true,
there's still so much to.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
Get excited about in the universe that's unknown.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
And I was like, whatever, But now I see the
validity at his point, and I still wish he'd looked
at some of my researches. It was good back then,
like a lot of time in Taiwan, everything like Mars
has air and there's caves full of people and just
all the UFO stuff, all the footage before ai like

(49:02):
Internet Golden era nowadays, when you know the pictures were
real exactly and there were real legit UFO sightings and experiencers.
And back then we had alien abductees all the time.
We've had some on the show. Have you come across
any like abductee testimonies in your adventures on your Star

(49:24):
Maps Captain?

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yes, I have. He was on the show. You might
probably know him. His name's Tony Rodriguez.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Oh, Okay, yeah, but he's a bell.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, so he was. He was abducted and worked for
the Intergalactic something or other. I can't remember how he
explained it, but he lived for twenty years. He was
abducted when he was twelve ten or something like that.
He was young. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Yeah, we talked to him Tony Roquez the program.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah, she's a great story.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
Really, he does this.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Really, it's a really great story. I didn't know it
at the time, but when so when I had him
on the show, he's been his story has already been
out there in circulation and he's had been talking about
it and I didn't know it, so I had him
share it. He's basically he didn't rush through it, but
it was more of a because I've listened back to

(50:26):
some of his other podcasts that he's been on and
he's definitely expand expounded on a lot of his story.
So my when he was on my show was a
little bit of a shorter version, but still interesting. And
then I had another woman. Her name is Valerie Lafasto,
and she doesn't remember it, but it's more like a

(50:49):
regression memory, like it came back to her at some point,
but she remembered it as her dad pulling over on
the side of the road and he told her to
stay in the car, and she remembers staying in the car,
but apparently her memory came back to her as either

(51:10):
through regression therapy or something, somehow she got the memory
received the memory back that she got out of the
car because there was a spaceship in the road and
her dad was investigating it and told her to stay
in the car, but she didn't. She get out and
she ended up playing with the They were small gray Wow.

(51:30):
I think she said they were gray. She might have
said they were green, but either way, they were about
the same size as her as a child, and she
just remembers being playful with them and they didn't seem
negative or anything, and then they just left and that's
all she really remembers.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Okay, wow, did she what they looked like?

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah, she's said not really. She basically just said they
were small. She might have and I'm just not remembering
it correctly, but I remember her saying they were about
the same size. My immediate thought is the small grays.
But so technically she wasn't abducted, but they did allow
her onto the ship.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
At we interviewed it back in the day. Howard Storm
a long time ago, and he had a trip to
Hell and then he went to Heaven and he used
to be really making the rounds and back in the
days like twenty I don't know, twenty seventeen when we
did a show with him, and he's probably his testimony.

(52:32):
He's definitely out there on the internet, but he basically
went to Heaven and because he was an atheist before,
he didn't have that religious kind of filter. He just
started asking Jesus all these questions about everything, and when
it came to aliens, the Lord told him and introduced
him to aliens. According to him, it's a pastor. He's

(52:54):
not even like a big conspiracy guy. He just has
this testimony and we've been quoting it for years old
internet circles. But he basically what the Lord showed him,
and there were He's like, we're not aliens, Lord, because
he's in Heaven. He's just asking Lord anything. And so
suddenly there's this parade of beings approaching them, and the

(53:16):
first ones look human, and then they start having gradual
different features, kind of like Star Trek Aliens, like they
saved money with low budget, they just did make up
the things, and then they started getting gradually weirder and
like undersea creatures and insects. And he's like, well, okay, Lord, okay, okay,
I get it. And what the Lord told him, Howard Storm,

(53:37):
was that indeed there are aliens, the space is full
of life, and that the Lord Jesus himself engages and
goes around and is indeed somehow engaging with these different
worlds and these different species as the King of kings
and the Lord of Lords and the Son of God

(53:58):
and the creator of all heaven and earth. Worse, he's
gonna his government extends everywhere, but that the aliens that
are showing up here they're trespassers, Like none of them
are allowed to be here, all of them. This planet
is the Lord's footstool. It's off limits. So anytime people
engage with aliens here or all that channeling pleads or whatever,

(54:22):
all the silly stuff, it's like always demonic and always bad,
but there's stuff off world that's like kosher. Anyway, that
was his I'm not quoting it perfectly. That's just something
that stuck with us for a long time. It's worth
checking out Howard Storm if anybody can find that testimony.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
But here it is today.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
You're hearing it now on cross files.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
And Kevin decides to post show.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Yeah, yeah, he's that was for and I should give
credit because that was Daniel Love it on the Soso.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
Talk radio show.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
So okay, if you ever decided to keep podcasting.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
So many podcasters that have given up throughout the years. Yeah,
I've had the short time that I've been doing it.
There's been a few that I became friends with it
are no longer doing it too, which kind of stinks
because some of them were pretty good.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Any that we can check out just to memorize their
memorialize their work even if they or you better not.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
She might come back, one of them that I really
enjoyed listening to. She might be coming back. But it's
been almost a year, I think, And so her podcast
has won nothing, and she it's a true crime, bizarre deaths,
and animal attacks, So each episode different, so you'll have

(55:46):
a true crime story, then it'll be an animal attack,
and then it'll be a bizarre death like crazy, I
can't believe that happened like that, And every ten episodes
she does a survivor story. So a survivor from an
animal attack will come on and tell their story about
how they survived, and one of them was a shark attack.
Survived a shark attack, somebody survived a hippo attack, and

(56:10):
somebody survived a crocodile attack.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Gosh, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yeah, so she was. She had a pretty good head
of theme for her podcast, and then all of a
sudden it just stopped.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
If she if it was too much trauma, just tell
her that I actually jumped in a shark tank in China,
but the only thing that attacked me was a little
sea turtle that nibbled on my toe. So if she wants,
I mean, I could build it up like shark tank,
but it'll be actually for record a sea turtle attack.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yes, it surprised me.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
I jumped in the shark tank full of sand tiger
sharks eleven eleven sand tiger sharks with all the jobs. Yeah,
it was for a TV show in China's anyway, long story,
but I'll never.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Forget step in this little turtle Like, wow, what was that?

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (57:01):
That is hilarious. That is hilarious.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
But my gosh, I'm only doing this because frankly without
journalists help and arranging the time and scheduling and juggling
everything like the way I would have time to do
actual interview podcasts right now with everything that's going on.
The last interview I did was in studio with We're
working with a lot of people in the mountains and

(57:27):
we're promoting local farmers selling beef. People can buy beef
through us and support the podcasts and the studio and
local farmers, and we're still getting that set up. But
I did a show with Courtney about that. So that
was fun on Spirit Force. That was just very off
the cuff like this. It was not at the level
of cross files, no editing. It was just like why

(57:49):
some in the studio and we just talked and she
didn't share any of the fun weird ghost stories.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
Like you could probably interview her.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
She was very polite and.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Very responsible and very like controlled, self controlled and subdued
in a way, and that it was their first podcast
and after she was like finally started telling me all
the interesting stories after we turn off the microphone to
fix I know, I.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Totally get that when that happens, for sure, And it's
funny that you said that it was at the level
of cross Balls podcast. To the honest of you. Sometimes
I think that it's not worth it. And sometimes when
I want to crank out an episode the very next day,
like for example, with the episode that we did with
Chaplain Steve Dabs, we interviewed him the day before Halloween,

(58:37):
and I wanted it to be published on Halloween, and
I was like, I just want to get this out
on for Halloween because I really think that he was
touching about these occult subjects and how people get demonized
through doing occulted things. On Halloween, I just wanted to
crank them puppy out and indeed, what I got hold
it was like the last ten percent I needed to

(58:58):
finish before I got home. So it's really crazy Kevin
on Michael because I normally, just like Kevin does, he
does a lot of great editing for his show. I'll
take the most hard hitting spots, like two minutes worth
or three minutes worth and make a little video or
short video out of it and stick that in the
beginning of the show and put all these edits in

(59:19):
or whatever. But that there were no edits on anything.
I did remove the ums and the uzz and little
phrases that were extraneous and that was it. But yeah,
and I think Mike Stint also has that same blossopy
because he spent hours on a one hour show, which
he does like pro editing, and he's forget it. I'm
just gonna just just creak it out and publish it

(59:40):
and everything. But yeah, I wish that there was some
sort of happy medium I could find between really like
putting like four hours for every one hour of a
show versus just just playly pasting it. Kevin, tell us
your techniques, like how do you balance your life? I
know you're busy with that two kids, is that right?
And you have a girlfriend, you were working and stuff

(01:00:01):
like that. How do you creak out these shows once
or twice every week and then balance your family life?
Tell us about that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
It was a lot easier before the baby. I will
say that. So it's as soon as the baby was born,
the two two a week stopped. I went right from
two right back to one one a week. But so, yeah,
it's I do most of my editing late at night,

(01:00:28):
which late for me is right now because I so
I wake up at one thirty in the morning and
I get to I leave the house between two and
two thirty to get to work by three. So I
work from three to three. Usually on really good days,
if I'm fast enough and I can get my stuff done,

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I can be done anywhere between noon to two o'clock
and that'll give me time for the gym and then
I can get home and I have some time with
my daughter before mom gets done with work because mom
works from home, so I basically try and occupy the
baby so that Mom can finish up her stuff. And

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then I'll sometimes come down here and i'll edit like
I'm Usually Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday is when I do
most of my editing. Sometimes I'll do it early in
the morning on a Saturday or a Sunday too. But
so I got my show. I am producing another show
called David Don't Know that's hosted by David Salinas. And

(01:01:33):
then I have a third podcast that I am a
co host of, which is the Real Verdict Podcast, and
we talk about movie so we kind of review and
dissect a movie each every Monday, and that one and
that one has been a lot of fun because I
love cinema. When I also so I work about ten

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to twelve hours a week. Oh wow, edit my editing
isn't that. Like I throw the music and stuff in
there and stuff, but usually the actual episode, unless my
guest is like, hey, can you like take that out
of there or whatever, I usually don't do anything. It's
all the ums and everything every there. I just download
it and I slap it on and I put the

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I'll find the like you were saying, like a little
piece of it, and that's that happened. I started doing
that recently to like when new viewers or new listeners
come on, they're hearing a piece of an interesting story
and then like I want to hear more about it,
so I'll throw I started doing that recently the past
ten episodes. I think I started doing that. Cool. So yeah,

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it's it's not easy by any means. It's it's it's
been a lot of fun regardless.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Fine, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Sometunds. There's a little chair right here. I'll set my
daughter in it too, and she'll sit here and watch
me edit. Well, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Congratulations on your baby.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
And her name is Charlie, right, Charlie.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Ye oh, that's such a cute name. And I go
by Jerry, And so sometimes people will say that's the
boy's name or that's a man's name, and I'll say, no,
not the way I spell it, which is j e
r I. The people that are quote old school and
they do Jerry's j e r R. Wives always veil.
So I think Charlie is such a cute name. And
I love like little unit gender names, you to text.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Names like that. So I grew up within you did
the spelling. No, it was the same exact spelling as yours.
And we called her Jerry j e R.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
J e R I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Yeah, just see I father jarre Lyn's on Facebook and
different venues, website venues, and I'm like, should I reach
out to night if it could be weird? And one
time I did reach out to these other jarre Lynbs
and say, hey, we should have some sort of annual
get together of all the Geralds. The spelling is different,
it's so neat. So now, when I leant for a moment,

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did my will ask you about your favorite conspiracy?

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
If not, I'll ast, no, you didn't. I didn't. I
did not.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
That's a very good question, though, Okay, rich is Well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Did would say with the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
See voices all types of voices and impressions.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Amazing impression. But so one of my favorite ones that
I love talking about is flat Earth. Not necessarily that
I believe it. I just really talking about it all
the different aspects that go into it, the history of it,
like with Nazi Germany and Admiral Bird and stuff like that. So,

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like Admiral Bird went up to Antarctica, found a Nazi
base and then was met in the air with alien
aircraft technically that had swatstickers printed on the sides of
them on the wings and stuff like that, and they
came out of the water and then they escorted into
this part in Antarctica where there was no snow and

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there was grains and people plants and stuff like that.
And apparently there's a wall going around us and stuff
like and there's more land. And I don't know if
I believe that. I'm not one I like, but I
like to talk about it. I still I'm pretty sure
that the world is a sphere, but it is. It

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would be interesting if the Earth was flat. That's so
that's why I like to talk about it. And there's
so many people out there that believe it's flat and
will want to talk about it. I've talked about it
several times.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Back in the heyday of podcasts and conspiracy and research,
and there was no flat Earth at all.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
There was like zero, Like flat.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Earth is a completely new thing from twenty fifteen. I've
actually talk to the guy Sergeant who was one of
the spearheaders for it, very humble guy, because I was
mocking it, like I was like, you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Young rivers, you don't know what you're talking to.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
Buy out with all these conspiracies.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
We oh, we know what we're like the conspiracy you're
talking about, which isn't really a conspiracy, it's documented. Yeah,
the Admiral bird is I believe, isn't that hollow Earth?
Like it wouldn't necessarily be flat earth so much as
the fact that the Earth is hollow. And we were
already researching that and really fascinated with it, and then

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we were all annoyed when these flat earth are flat.
The flat earth quote unquote think came in.

Speaker 7 (01:06:41):
Hijacked everything, hijack nine to eleven, hijacked aliens, hijacked hollow earth,
hijacked everything and made everything about flat earth, and it
was like, how does everything hine into flat earth?

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
Was like, no, dude, bro, it's just it's all about
every He's just it's the Earth's flat.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
It's the whole thing. So it's fun to look back,
and I think it's losing steam now.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
I don't see as much on social media about flatter
but what do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Yes, you're right. So the whole Admiral Bird thing was
because it was more of like a hollow earth thing.
But the ice wall that he talked about is gave
the flat earth stuff more of a talking point because
if we could get past that ice wall, there'd be
maybe more land, which I do think is a really

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cool idea for maybe a story that there's more land.
I would like it that. Wo'd be cool if we
could have some kind of I guess evidence of somebody
going over this quote unquote ice wall. But I did
find I do find a lot of certain things interesting
that go along with like flat Earth is the fact

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that we see the same constellations every now and I
know the sky is space is so vast. So when
because I'm up so early in the morning and there's
a lot of times where I get to when I'm
at work, every once in a while I'll look up
at the sky and I made it a point to
get to this certain point every day for a week

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straight and look up at the sky, and the constellations
were on the same spot almost every time. Maybe they
might have shifted a little bit, but they were always
in the same spot I could see. So when I
stood there and I stood straight and I looked up
just a little bit, I could see O'Ryan's belt, and
then I would turn my head just like this, and
then you get had the Little Dipper and the Big

(01:08:41):
Dipper here, and I was just like, why is it
in the same spot all the time? If we're not
only are we spinning, but we're also going around the sun,
wouldn't that throw some of these off a little bit more?
But so that's something that I found interesting, not saying

(01:09:01):
that it proves or disproves a sphere or flat earth
or anything like that, but I always just thought it
was super super weird. And the hollow Earth, though, the
hollow Earth is I love that. I enjoy that that
as well, just because there's so many stories about Even

(01:09:24):
Christopher Columbus wrote about it in his journal about these
crafts coming up out of the water. What Christopher Columbus
wrote about that, Christopher Columbus wrote about it in Eternal.
He didn't use like UFO language. He just said this
thing came out like He basically just said something came

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out of the water and into the sky.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
That's fascinating. I have heard an Admiral birds story and
the first time I heard it was through just to
the Fall of the Fourth Watch Radio. If you check
out his stuff, I think you really love his stuff.
He's the OG of podcasters next to Michael Basham. Of course,
sure when Justin Ball started podcasting, but I think Justin

(01:10:09):
and Michael probably had given birth to podcasting at the
same time. I'm not sure, but Justin has some really
interesting videos that are on video, and one of them
is the Hollow Word, and he does talk about Admiral
Bird's findings and how he had seen everything that you mentioned,
like even wooly mammoths, and there was an area in

(01:10:30):
Antarctica or is it Arctica anyway, there was an area
where there was no snow, and that there was the
opening into the hollow Earth. Excuse me. Some people actually
believe that the books by Joel's Vern the Journeys at
the Center of the Earth and a few other books,
that those are actually fact in fiction, like he's made

(01:10:50):
it a fictional story, but there's facts that back up
the story. And I thought an interesting take on it.
For sure, as flat Earth, I still do believe in
a globe birth, but like you said, it would be
interesting if it was a flat Earth. I think that
it can divide people, like I know that some hardcore

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flat earthers or some hardcore globe people, and that they
start arguing about that. I'm like a lot of Gorea
first to be in the money of Christ. Why are
we are arguing about this? And it's great to discuss.
But I know that there's some people that have unfriended
each other just because someone's a blat earther and somebody's
a globe birther or whatever. And I also believe in
the heliocentric model of the globe going around the Sun.

(01:11:32):
And I know that Mike Kaiser, doctor Heiser got resissault
that he is also a glow birther too, and he
was saying that the Bible is not meant to be
necessarily something that is supposed to show the cosmology of
the universe. They but the Bible writers were talking about

(01:11:54):
it from their vantage point. They see the sun go up,
they see this un go down, and they see the
sun rise of east and in the west, and so
that's so they had the cosmogy of bladder four quarters
and the sun going around the Earth. So that would
be the globe centric model or something. I'm not sure
if I'm using the right language. It is definitely an
interesting subject for sure, and I if somebody. I've had

(01:12:16):
different people like come at me and say, oh, Jerry,
they're lying to us. That's a lying to us. You're
not a flatterernth you're not even a Christian. I've had
people insinuate that to me, and I'm like, look, man
or woman, I'm not gonna argue with you about this.
We can still be Christians and not discuss the But
the earth as just a Nannie Brown says, it's not
an accent. It could be hot hot. No, it can

(01:12:37):
be like the shape of a hot dog. But I
don't care because this can be a divisive subject. Like yeah,
I guess you're right, but but yeah, I think integrate
to discuss for sure. That's neat that happens to get
a goat.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
I've had so many different conversations about it and there's
so many there's bigger problems in the world than figuring
out if the Earth is actually flat or not. But it's,
like I said, it is absolutely fascinating to discuss, but
there's so many factions that have to go into that

(01:13:11):
to work as a lot, you know what I mean.
But the one thing that also could lend credence to
a hollow earth too. Have you ever seen the movie
Meg The Meg? Yeah, Shark, Okay, So the you know
how they have that part where the bigger the creatures

(01:13:31):
are underneath it and they can only come through like
a like a thermal thing or something like that. Anyways,
so that a thing like that was actually found in
the nineties or early two thousands. A gentleman had a
submarine and he comes across this thing and it looks
like a lake underneath the water, and he's bouncing off

(01:13:53):
of it. There's a video of it, and everything you
can see it looks like a lake, looks like water
underath water. So that's where that idea comes from, is
the fact that maybe we could somehow get through there
and maybe there's a whole nother world in there. Who knows,
is it more water or is it dry? Or will
be coming up like in Ping Kong, or you can

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come through the hole and then you're on another side
in another world. But he was killed in a helicopter
shortly after he in a helicopter accident shortly after he
released that video.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Really, that's fascinating. It's interesting how these truthers get off, deleted, killed,
whatever you want to say, because they have come out
with something controversial that the powers that should be want
to have snuffed. And there's a lot of disinfo out

(01:14:50):
there that when truth comes out and says, oh there's
there's a holloword because of this, is that the powers
that should be try to take them out, and in
his case probably took him out. Oh yeah, oh wow.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
That's very interesting. And you remember the submarine that imploded
not too long ago to about that. So it was
a little submarine. It was called the Titan or something
like that, and it had four people on it and
it imploded. They went missing first, and then the army
as we heard like a ting, and then they ended

(01:15:22):
up founding found finding it imploded. So there was a
gentleman that was on that. It was a bunch of
rich people, but there was a gentleman that was on
that submarine who was a computer analyst, and he worked
for a company that changed information on the Internet. And

(01:15:44):
I was during let's see when the submarine went. This
was shortly after all the stuff about COVID and all
that stuff. Was somebody that could change information that you
are finding on the Internet about certain subjects. So like
a news officer or kind of yeah, so he could
run programs and like change. So you can find so

(01:16:08):
much information to say something as good, but also at
the same time find so much information on the Internet
to say something that, like coffee's good for you. You
can find a whole bunch of information that'll say coffee
is great for you. And then on the other hand,
you can also look up his coffee bad for you,
and it'll give you a bunch of information about coffee
being bad for you. So it's like that that same

(01:16:28):
kind of thing. But he was literally he could he
had the knowledge and wherewithal to be able to change
complete Internet information.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
Oh, interesting ones, So maybe he knew things that perhaps
they figured he was about to defect or something. He
could have been a dangerous whistleblower and something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
Who knows.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
That's interesting, that's a very interesting point.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
I didn't know about that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Yeah, right after it happened. I researched everybody that was
on it, on that in that submarine. And because I
went up when I first sure of them going underneath there,
going down there, I was like, they're going to go
find that lake and they're going to try and go
through it. But they were because they were supposedly going
to look at the Titanic. Wait, there's been so many
submarines that have gone to the depths of the Titanic

(01:17:19):
and they didn't have but this one did.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
Yeah, it is pretty suspicious and it's interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:17:25):
How everybody forgot about that. Now, that's why it's good
that we're doing a podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
Yes, and that's why this is so important. You guys
like listening audiences too. This is precious. If you're listening
to this wherever you are, and please can subscribe on
iTunes and Spotify, to crossfiles.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
And all the things.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
Get all of us good reviews. And I don't know
if Kevin's going to repost this or not, but if
he does, make sure that you just go in there
and do your due diligence to give five stars in
a review, because that helps fight against the algorithms because
the Internet is becoming AI and they're trying to bury
real people like us.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
I'm from like the old days of the Internet. I
know they're doing seeing things.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
And blogging and research before AI.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
Like you have no idea what the Internet was like
before AI. It was so pure, there was so much
you could do and find immediately.

Speaker 5 (01:18:25):
And now with people.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
Waiting through stuff and all the fake videos and board
people and elderly people do like just scrolling through and
it's very This is so important. This conversation is going
to be very helpful and useful for researchers in the
future that are looking at such as Hollow Earth and
submarines and your work.

Speaker 5 (01:18:48):
Kevin, So I please don't give up, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
I know you have kids. I've got kids in the
next Usually I don't do this.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
I'm usually in the studio, but with things in my
family right now, I've got to be junling the children.
I will not miss a Cross Files episode, not if
Jerrelyn arranged it. Everything, unless it's like Hella is freezing over,
I will not miss because it is so important. This
is life or death materials, especially obviously the gospel. But yeah,

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just keep going, serve.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Like anything else that comes to mind.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
We're going all over the place, but it's fun to sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
I mean, your shoves. You have a focused topic.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
But we I'm not against flat earthers.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
I've stayed up till four a m with a flat
earther in Honolulu, Hawaii. Just okay, show me the flashlight proof.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Dude. Here's the paper plan, and I'm when to show
the fly flight over it. He like pokes the holes
in the paper plan.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
I'm like, oh, okay, dude, but I just I'm interested
in people's souls getting saved, so whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
I love you, dude. It's funny too, because there's so
many people in the conspiracy truther community that will alienate
other people just because they might believe in everything that
you believe, but they don't believe in one of them.
And you're like, and it doesn't matter which one it is.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
And You're like, you need to believe in most these
conspiracies and all of these things that I'm telling you
that I believe or else be a part of the group.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
But I'm just everybody comes from a different and just
goes into my stance on politics too. Everybody comes from
a different background, everybody has different life experiences. We're not
all going to agree on every single thing. That's just not.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Absolutely for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
It is interesting that within the conspiracy space, obviously there's
people that are not Christian, not believers, and their believers
is something but not Christianity, and we share this space together.
But I've seen like sometimes the division between people that
are that believe in conspiracy and not Christian and then

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they say, oh, the Christians are hijacking that can spiritual
topics or whatever. I saw some really a review on
somebody's excellent podcast and that person was like, gave it
a one star. This is a very good podcast. And
this person that was a reviewer was like, oh, you
Christians are hijacking or conspiracy stuff. You know what, you
just make it normal? Why did you just make it

(01:21:26):
just regular and secular whatever? And yeah, I've had several
podcasters Christian friends that have had people come at them
and verbally abuse them or whatever, but just say rude
things or whatever, and it's why can't we just all
get along? Why can't we just share this space together?
I mean two concentric circles like secular people, which we

(01:21:48):
all were at one point had the Christians. We share
the circles coming together, we share the middle, which is
conspiratorial topics, but except the Christians talk about it from
a maybe biblical perspective or fake based perspective, and they
talk about usually for evolutionary or apeistic or agnostic perspective
and whatever, and I'm come against there. It's fine if

(01:22:09):
they want to listen to this podcast, but normally they
won't because they see something that's the cross smiles. Oh,
they're definitely Christian. So that's why I want to go
by either Strange o'clock podcasts that appeals to the masses
or the Cross Falls podcast which appeals to Christians.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
So people.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Like that, that's awesome. I was going to say something
and I can't remember.

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
Oh I'm sorry, No, that's the end of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
Now you were talking and I was like, I was
wanted to go off of one. Oh yes, I remember. Now.
It's interesting because a lot of people get in they
get into conspiracies. They're not religious, they're nothing, They're they
are not closed minded but not awakened, and they get
into this field. They start looking into things, they start

(01:23:05):
believing in things, and they go down these rabbit holes
it always leads to Jesus every single time. Yes, it
always leads them to Jesus. And that's where it's led me.
I also had help from my children. I've also had
help from people that I've become close to who also
are Christian. And so it's just it's interesting to me.

(01:23:29):
Everybody who is that in my circle anyway, who is
into the truth finding the truth, has come to know
Jesus or they already did.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
How can you talk about the illuminati without talking about
a higher power? Because if you're a secularist, you don't
believe in God, you don't believe in angels, you don't
believe in demons, you don't believe in Satan. And yet
some of these atheists, like I once and would wait
if they're say, well, this the Illuminatisifarian agenda is evil.
So it's like, where do you get that, you know,

(01:24:06):
just in general thing, Where does that person get their
frame of reference? If you say the Illuminati of people,
So where do you get your frame of reference to
say that's evil? How do you believe that something is
good or something is evil? That a lot of times
they say whatever I believe is good and evil is good?
Evil so every so everybody out there that's a seculars
will say good and evils determined by the individual. But

(01:24:28):
then we're getting into philosophy here. So there's just because
we're mainly a Christianized society in America doesn't believe that
his people in history geng Get Khan for example, or
any or Alexander the Great or any of these dictators
that were atheistic and were killing people because they wanted

(01:24:48):
to overtake the world and to propagate the Roman Empire
whatever like, they believed that the Romans that were secular
is or actually no, they believe in pantheonic gods, but
they believe that the hy bratic Jewish people were less
than that and that there were just one sin, but
that there were just one action away if they said
anything against Caesar and against Rome, just one action or

(01:25:10):
words away to being killed, being thrown at the coliseum.
So is it good and evil based on the individual
or is it based on something that's permanent, something that's biblical,
that has a foundation. So that we're going down at
a philosophical realmdhole. But yeah, it is interesting, for sure.
Can you talk to different people?

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Absolutely? Absolutely, I love this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
Oh, we love talking to you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
We just finally, if I could just interject on what
General was saying, what we're getting into about the faith
aspect people are.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
Coming to know about.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
I always thought if I just talked about the Illuminati
to my Taiwanese students when I was doing mission work
in Asia, if I could just expose the enemy's realm,
they would get interested in this. The supernateral find the
Bible and be in segue into the Bible. I don't
personally do that anymore because.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
I'm like the Mandana trail.

Speaker 5 (01:26:02):
It takes too long.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
I'm sure it works for some people, but for the
most part, when I get the word, if I get
this Bible word in front of somebody and I just
start shooting out some scripture, it could be anything like
John three sixteen. It could be a psalm. It could
be your word is like a it's like silver tried
seven times.

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
Or I can say, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
Easier for all the stars and the sun of the
moon to be done away with then for one tiny
little aspect of the Word of God to be altered.
That was a quote from Jesus. By the way, the
word is so tried and true and powerful and to
just use then popper that into our conversation. That has
become my more of my focus at least with my show.

(01:26:48):
Then to try to be like in the old days,
I'd be like pulling out John Todd. John Todd, old
researcher guy. He was the former Illuminati high level ranking guy.
Any lumnami disappeared, John Todd pretty famous. Like really, to
get things going.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
Here, you can convince people intellectually, or you can speak
to their soul and implant that seed of the truth
and let that seed germinate. And we live in a.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
Pretty wicked and hard hearted generation, so don't be surprised
if a lot of mockers show up.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
A lot of people.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
You might have people in your family or even your
spouse might say no, don't do that religious stuff. And
you're just trying to get your CTEs into the kingdom,
get them baptized or whatever. Don't let any of that
surprise you. The Bible says Jesus himself said, persecution comes
for the word's sake. Once you start getting into this word, somewhere, somehow,

(01:27:47):
some way, some persecution is coming. It's like the terminator.
It just comes, And don't be afraid of that. Don't
be surprised of it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
It's just gosh, terminator, it's here, Sarah caught up.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
Yeah, Kyle, readers, don't feel pain. I do intersect your
line from whatever movie. But you have to stay in
the Word morning, day and night, to build our faith,
to face the terminators, to face the aliens, to face
the ghosts. If the mushroom people are bad, the mushroom people,

(01:28:22):
oh my god, people, the gray alien. I don't know
if I believe all of it. I think it's all real,
and why shouldn't I do so many testimonies about all
of it. The Word is the precious, most powerful weapon
to deal with everything.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
It's in the Word of God.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
And getting into local church. There's a lot of Internet
people that they hate local church people need to go
to church. Just get into the Word yourself and find
just be spirit led, be perful.

Speaker 5 (01:28:56):
But I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
Then further, you are did encouragement to me, so thank you.
That was my last rant.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
What's going on? I will say one more thing as well.
When you talk about persecution, right, you're gonna face it
at some point when you turn to when you start
to know Jesus and you're just talking about the word
and stuff like that. So I I think it was
right before you popped on. I was telling Jerallyn about
my ex wife. Does she she's okay with my kids

(01:29:25):
being baptized and stuff like that, but she was she
has Buddha statues all over her house and she was
raised Greek Orthodox, so she's, what religion do you want? Yeah,
so she goes, what religion are you going to baptize
the kids? I was like Christians. I was like, that's Christian.
I was like, that's the only religion the kids I've
ever talked about, and she's I think you should ask

(01:29:49):
them my my Yeah, yeah, which is Grandma in Greek.
She'll roll She'll roll over in her grave if my
kids are baptized as Christian. I was like, Greek Orthodox
is a type of Christianity, So I don't know what
the problem would be there. But so anyways, so talking
about persecution is so I texted both my kids in

(01:30:11):
a group chat, said what do you I was talking
to the church and everything, and I was like, maybe
I should just to be safe, I'll ask them. So
I asked them and immediately my daughter answered five minutes later,
she's a Christian, and then my son answered, my son
takes ten days to reply to text messages. Sometimes it
didn't take that long, but it was like a day.

(01:30:33):
It was like a day or so. Later he replied
he's Christian, and so I was like, that's that, and
then he said something. They one of them said something
to out loud while they were at home during this exchange,
and so she called them down to the living room

(01:30:53):
and was asking them questions, do you even know anything
about Christianity and blah blah blah blah, and the way
she was the way my son told me anyway, I
don't know for I wasn't there. I'm just going based
off of my kid's words, is that she was very
aggressive with her questioning them about it and and made
my son uncomfortable. I know, because she was asking she

(01:31:14):
asked him questions about what he knew because I know
so much scripture, and when she was asking me, I
couldn't sit. I couldn't think of anything. And I was
like she, I was like, did she make you uncomfortable?
He goes, yeah a little, and I go, that's why
you couldn't think of anything was because you were uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
She was grilling him and even yeah yeah, and my.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Daughter yeah, And that's what I was thinking when because
so when I my daughter was like, my daughter was
like yeah, she was like I don't know anything at all.
I was like, I was like, do you have your Bible?
And my daughter's well, I haven't read it yet, Like
you got to start reading it to know anything, man.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
And give them the basics, like dear Prince all over everywhere.
That's some of the best stuff to just drive home
the basics, the very basic subscriptions. That's what we need
for our little our young labis.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
It's absolutely well, pretty little able.

Speaker 5 (01:32:15):
I'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
She can't see how to anti German and Uncle Kevin.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
He's what I'm on the camera?

Speaker 5 (01:32:23):
What Yeah, they watched.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
I put on Bible movies just for people with kids,
The Greatest Adventures in the Bible series, the cartoons that
Hanna Barbara series from the nineteen eighties.

Speaker 5 (01:32:36):
My mom gave me video because that of those.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
Those are so good if you have money to buy stuff.
Richard Rich Jesus videos, the Bible stories, Richard Rich. I
cry watching those sometimes, the music and the animations good.
Do not just put on Bible thing for kids on YouTube.
A lot of it's AI now it's I don't know why,

(01:33:00):
but it just gives me a bad feeling, like just
letting my kids watch random AI generated stuff that's talking
about the Bible, even if it's technically Bible.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
There's other like more obscure shows that are excellent seeing it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
Stop it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
I am podcasty right out about my daughter.

Speaker 6 (01:33:18):
You all know your fault.

Speaker 5 (01:33:19):
I'll get I'll drop two names. You guys can write
these down.

Speaker 4 (01:33:22):
Treasure Attic as an attic like above your house treasure attic.

Speaker 5 (01:33:27):
Those are excellent. And cherub Wings.

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
These are very obscure but very good Bible resources. If
you want to just give your children somebody that's extremely
helpful and biblical and just very good stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:33:43):
Nice God, bless you, sir, navigating that well done.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
Proud of you, Thank you, awesome, Thank you so much.
Kevin and Michael for your time tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
Kevin.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
How can they reach you and how can they listen
to your stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
So where the weird Ones are is available wherever you
get podcasts, also on YouTube, and if you're interested in
conversating or even being on the show, you can reach
me at where the Weird Ones Are at gmail dot
com or you can get me on Instagram where Underscore
the Weird Ones are. And I'm also not opposed to
just having a conversation. It doesn't have to be for

(01:34:20):
the show.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
Awesome. I appreciate your time tonight and always a fascinating
and fun discussion with you, Kevin, and our blessed and
honor to have you on board the Strange o'clock podcast,
cross Files podcast Range. Thank you, Thank you so much
for listening and or watching in a cross Files podcast.
Have a strange and supernatural day or evening wherever you

(01:34:42):
are at in the world, and may the cross be
with you. Love you all, by Doublass.

Speaker 6 (01:34:48):
You guys, David David I

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