June 3, 2026 • 15 mins
Our host Darriel Roy interviews American actress Tracie Thoms who returns as her role as Lily in the blockbuster movie The Devil Wears Prada 2.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Thank you so much for watching. This shows all about
giving you insights and showcasing brands that help you to
live your best life and give you confidence. As always,
I want to kick out your morning with some motivational
advice to help you to feel inspired and energize to
start your day today. I want to talk about the
importance of understanding that your life is only as good
as your mindset. The reality is, our mindset shapes the
(00:24):
lens we see the world. When our thoughts and beliefs
align with the life we want to live, life feels
light and hopeful. However, when our mindset doesn't align with
who we want to become, this leads to feeling perpetually stuck.
But the goodness is that it's never too late to
create new beliefs and adopt a winning mindset. Mak your
mission today to start prioritizing and being conscious.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Of your inner dialogue.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
How do you speak to yourself daily? Do you feel
empowered and energized or fearful. The more we are conscious
of our inner dialogue, the faster we can change our
mindset and flip negative thoughts into new empowering beliefs. As
scene goes, change your mind, change your life. Next up
on the show, we have American actress Tracy Toms, who
returns as her role as Lily in the blockbuster movie
(01:10):
The Double Worst Product Too. Tracy, thank you so much
for being on the show today.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
How are you doing loving me?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I'm good, I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm doing extremely well. I'm so excited to talk to you.
We have a lot to talk about. But before we
get into your reprising role as Lily in The Double
Worst Product.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Two, let's take it back to the beginning.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
When didn't you realize acting with something you wanted to pursue.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Well, I was a nomly child until I was twelve
and a half, so I had to, like, you know,
really entertain myself all the time and play games and
have an imagination.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And my father worked in television at a local station in Maryland,
so I was always around the arts.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
And I don't remember going to my first play like
I've always gone.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
To play as I've always, like, you know, seen movies
and stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So I was in a dance class when I was
like eight, and I was very bad at it.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
But there was a TV show that existed when I was.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
A kid called Junior Star Search and worked ads with
a compete, you know, and had a dance competition a
stand up comedian competition is singing and an acting competition,
and I just watched it, and I became obsessed with
being on that show. I have no idea why, because
I was kind of a shy kid, but I was like,
I'm going to do the acting thing I could do that,
I'll play makeert and all the time. So I went
(02:33):
to room and I was like, I want to take
acting classes, and they were like, okay, great, And then
I started to taking an acting class when I was
nine at the Bottom or Actress Theater, and then I
switched to the Rindom Players like a couple of years
later Downtown, which is like the oldest continuously running a
community theater in America maybe, And.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Then I went to a rite.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I kept trying to get away from acting because I
thought it was sustainable and I wasn't going to do
it for a living because I don't really say abody
it looked like me doing it, but.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It was fun for me. So then I went to
a regular high school for ninth grade.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I hated it, but I transferred to the Baltimore School
for the Arts, and then I was going to college
and I went to Howard University as a communications major
and I hated it, so.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Then I switched my major theater.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Then I studied Shakespeare one summer at Oxford in England,
the British American Drama Academy, and I was like, I
actually really really do love this. And then I auditioned
for Juilliard and I got in for grad school and I.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Was like, I guess I'm doing this. I guess acting
is it and only do that.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, it definitely paid off.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It's been quite a journey right to get here what
it really really has. And you were in the Broadway
musical Rents alongside Adina Menzal. Tell us about that experience,
because I knew you were a fan of the show
and you watched it several times before, So tell us
about that experience.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Well, when I was a senior.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
At Howard, my then college boyfriend was a business major
and he was being courted by companies and one of
the companies got him tickets to see brit on Broadway.
So I went up and saw right on Broadway, fell
in love with it. I saw the original cast and
then immediately started auditioning for it. Got rejected nine times
(04:27):
over eight years. I mean this was before Juilliard, and
after Juilliard, I kept getting rejected from Brent. But then
the movie came along. Iriishod for the movie, and I
got the movie first with the original cast, which was crazy,
a crazy moment. And then after the movie, I closed
it on Broadway. So I was the last cast on Broadway.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And you dozens of TV shows and series including Law
and Order, Cold Case.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Annie. What's been your favorite role to date? Why?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Oh? I can't. I can't even know the question right.
Chicking your favorite kid?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know, you can't all love them all, But I mean,
I mean, I have a Joanne from Brent is very
very close to my heart and very near and dear
to me because I tried for so long to get
to play her.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So if I had to pick one, I would probably
pick her.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Very nice and fast forward, let's talk about your reprising
role as Lily in the Devil Wars product too.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Tell us about that experience and.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Kind of joining or rejoining the cast after almost twenty years.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
How was that?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It was exactly twenty years? It was crazy?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You know, I had heard rumblings of a sequel for
a long time, and I was like, Okay, well that's fine,
and I don't know if I'll be a part of it,
because you know, they just really focus on Meryl and
Annie and Emily and Stanley. So I didn't know for
the longest time in pubs going to be a part
of it. But then like last April, like late April,
I got a call that that Lily was still friends
(05:56):
with Andy. So the cut it was very exciting and
also very surreal to just step back into those shoes
and it was like it felt like the most comfortable
thing ever.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It felt like, you know what I mean, the guys
I saw people.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
It feels like when you had a pair of slippers
that had molded themselves to your feet, you know, like
in the.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Back of the closet, and then like years later you
find them.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Like, oh my god, my favorites they were gone and
his feet still fit in them.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And it just feels very, very comfortable and unfamiliar.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
And you know, like our director was the same, the
producers were the same, you know, the writer was the same.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You know, Me and.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Andy, me and and Hathaway are the same. The cameraman
was the same. It was we all just came back
together to tell the story. And it was very cool
because you know, in other situations, like you have to
like pretend time has gone by. You know, you're like
in twenty years later and you're acting like this twenty
years later.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Where this was, there was no acting like it was
twenty years later. It was actually twenty years later exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
So it was really interesting to see where these characters
were in their lives and.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
How they were with each other. It was it was
really a beautiful, fun experience.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
It sounds very nostalgic having working with the same crew.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It sounds very people. Yeah, we're all still here, none
of us.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And how have Lily and Andy's relationship grown over the years.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Well, you know, if you remember in the first one,
they had been friends for sixteen years in the first one, Yeah,
so they were already.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Like just baked in with each other, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
So they grew up together basically, So twenty years later,
having gone through all of our trials and tribulations as friends,
they just their friendship just really really deepened over the years.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And it's a beautiful thing to see. Long term friendships
like that on screen, I.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Think, and this movie has such an incredible cast and Hathaway,
Meryl Street. I saw an ig post that you posted
really bonding with everybody, So tell us about that relationship
on and off screen.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Well, you know, our lives have taken us in very
all kinds of various directions over the last twenty years.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know, Annie and I, you know, would see in
connecting each other every now and then I.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Did another move with Emily, I did Luper with Emily,
so so like we've spent time together then.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
But you know, it's like people.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Have gotten married that have children now, Annie as an Oscar,
you know, it's like, you know, it's it's so interesting
to come back together and everybody is so proud of
each other that we've accomplished everything we've accomplished over the
last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And Terracy, you've been in this industry for decades. What's
something you've learned about yourself through it all.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I learned that I'm way more resilient than I thought.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Oh, I love that it takes a lot of resilience
to stay in this business because the ebbs and flows
so much and it's so kind of like subjective, you
know what I mean, And you have to really build
a thick skin around yourself to be able to withstand
everything that comes with it. The rejection. The success is
also sometimes hard. The schedules are hard, the uncertainty is
(09:15):
really really really hard sometimes, but it's also very exciting,
Like your life could change in the day. You never
know where it's going to come from, So that's exciting,
you know what I mean. But but yeah, it's like
the point is you have to really figure out how
you're going to build your life around the industry, you know,
(09:37):
in order to make it work for yourself, you do
it mean just to keep your safety and to build
your tribe and build your family around yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
So so yeah, I never would have.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Thought that my life would look like it looks now,
but I'm so happy, you.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Know, amazing, and you know how it is great and
determination played a part in your success because I feel like,
you know, people see your success, they see.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
You to red carpet at the double wrist product.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But I'm sure there's you know, there's so much work
that goes into being a successful actress.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So how has failure played a part in your success?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Well, it's it's a part of it.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
You have to embrace it, Like, yeah, you have to
embrace rejection. You have to embrace not being sure what
the next job is going to be, and it's very scary.
But once you just really accept that your journey is
for you, like your path is your path, and what's
for you is what's for you, Like you know that
(10:33):
when you're young in the business, but over time you
have you actually live it for a while and you
have to really embrace it that what's for you is
for you, you know what I.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Mean, and it won't miss you. You know what's for you?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah, And once you just kind of there's a there's
a there's a balance between having to be very very ambitious,
having to really like go after it with everything you have,
but also understanding that you have no control.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah m hm.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
You know when I was watching clips of you on
the red carpet for the Devil Wars product, you.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Almost looked emotional.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I feel like, how is it kind of be in
that moment and seeing your dreams manifest and seeing all
your hard work play out.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's just, you know, it's like a big pinch me moment.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
It's like you know, it's the biggest thing I've experienced
other than like an award show. Like I've been in
the Emmys and that was crazy, you know, and I've
been to the Golden Globes that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But this was the biggest, like movie premiere.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, like for it to happened like that, it was
it was really it was really crazy. It was just
surreal the whole time. It was surreal, you know what
I mean. And I talked to Meryl at the end
of the night, and she was like, can you believe that,
you know, she's still after all these years in the business.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
It's like, can you believe this is happening? Can you
believe we're still here? Can you believe the lucky we are?
You know, like, can you know? Yeah, it's amazing, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So, you know, to have her as an example of
someone who can still have wonder and awe.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
In this business after all these years was just really
a gift to me.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Very nice and tracy. You know.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I created my platform to inspire, to uplift and to
really showcase that anything is.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Possible with determination and grits.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So what would you say to anyone that's watching this
that's inspired by your success, and maybe it's just not
seeing their dreams manifest. Maybe they're going through a hard time,
maybe they're just sad. What would you say to uplift
and inspire them.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
You just have to really really, First of all, when
I was in school, it was very common for our
Taschers to say, if there's anything else that makes you happy,
anything else other than that, it makes you happy to
do that, because this business can be really really heartbreaking
if it is for you, if you know in your
(12:48):
heart that this is what you're supposed to do, that
you are put on this earth to tell stories and
to you know, eliminate the human experience.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
If that is your journey, then.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
You cannot be stopped. You can't let anything stop you.
Like you have to be like a runaway train and
don't let your parents stop. You don't have anything stop you.
You know, you want your parents to support you, obviously,
and it's very helpful when they do, because my parents
really did support me.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But you just have to let You have to know
if you just believe in.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yourself, like you would have to just believe in yourself, yeah,
and all that this is what you what your gift is,
what's your purpose and you just really have to be
unstoppable to do it and believe that the cream always rises. Yes,
the cream always rises because it doesn't know what else
to do.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Caream only will rise.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
M hm.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
You just fight every day to be the cream and
all faith that your moment will come.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You know, me and my producer were just talking about
as someone's success in the industry who just had one
hundred million dollar podcast yell, and you know, I was saying,
I'm so happy for them because you know, everyone has
the season. You know, everyone has a time when it's
their time to shine.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And when when you.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
See someone else succeed, it's clapp for them because it
just means it's possible for you.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Success is just a sign that it's possible.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Right, Absolutely, you know what I mean. Because it's like.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Like your day will come, like you'read will come when
you don't know when it's going to be, And that's
what actually is kind of exciting. So we know when
it's gonna come, then it's boring, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Absolutely? Yes, And Tracy, what else are you currently working on?
What are your current projects?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I'm doing Season ten of nine to one one is
coming up. We just rep season nine, which is very
very exciting, you know, and we have you know, Doubleor's
products in theaters all summer. And I'm in a new
movie called called Some Days that's coming out I don't know,
(14:53):
and maybe next year with Billy Well Thornton and Pambline
Anderson and not coming. I also have movie with Chris
Rock coming out called Misty Green that's probably coming out
like in November.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And yeah, so it's just the moment everything is coming out.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
It's like you have moments where you work a lot
and then you have moments when everything comes out at.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Once, you know. Said, so that's what's happening right now,
and it's and it's very exciting. Oh and also called
Big Baby. I'm in a movie called a horror movie
called Big Baby.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
That's that's doing the the the circuit of all the
independent film circuits, the festival circuits right now.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Very nice, Tracy, that sounds all very exciting. Congratulations on
all your success. Thank you so much for being on
this show today.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And you're inspiration.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
So thank you, thank you so much, thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
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Hello and welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Thank you so much for watching. This shows all about
giving you insights and showcasing brands that help you to
live your best life and give you confidence. As always,
I want to kick out your morning with some motivational
advice to help you to feel inspired and energize to
start your day today. I want to talk about the
importance of understanding that your life is only as good
as your mindset. The reality is, our mindset shapes the
(00:24):
lens we see the world. When our thoughts and beliefs
align with the life we want to live, life feels
light and hopeful. However, when our mindset doesn't align with
who we want to become, this leads to feeling perpetually stuck.
But the goodness is that it's never too late to
create new beliefs and adopt a winning mindset. Mak your
mission today to start prioritizing and being conscious.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Of your inner dialogue.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
How do you speak to yourself daily? Do you feel
empowered and energized or fearful. The more we are conscious
of our inner dialogue, the faster we can change our
mindset and flip negative thoughts into new empowering beliefs. As
scene goes, change your mind, change your life. Next up
on the show, we have American actress Tracy Toms, who
returns as her role as Lily in the blockbuster movie
(01:10):
The Double Worst Product Too. Tracy, thank you so much
for being on the show today.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
How are you doing loving me?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I'm good, I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm doing extremely well. I'm so excited to talk to you.
We have a lot to talk about. But before we
get into your reprising role as Lily in The Double
Worst Product.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Two, let's take it back to the beginning.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
When didn't you realize acting with something you wanted to pursue.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Well, I was a nomly child until I was twelve
and a half, so I had to, like, you know,
really entertain myself all the time and play games and
have an imagination.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And my father worked in television at a local station in Maryland,
so I was always around the arts.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
And I don't remember going to my first play like
I've always gone.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
To play as I've always, like, you know, seen movies
and stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So I was in a dance class when I was
like eight, and I was very bad at it.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
But there was a TV show that existed when I was.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
A kid called Junior Star Search and worked ads with
a compete, you know, and had a dance competition a
stand up comedian competition is singing and an acting competition,
and I just watched it, and I became obsessed with
being on that show. I have no idea why, because
I was kind of a shy kid, but I was like,
I'm going to do the acting thing I could do that,
I'll play makeert and all the time. So I went
(02:33):
to room and I was like, I want to take
acting classes, and they were like, okay, great, And then
I started to taking an acting class when I was
nine at the Bottom or Actress Theater, and then I
switched to the Rindom Players like a couple of years
later Downtown, which is like the oldest continuously running a
community theater in America maybe, And.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Then I went to a rite.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I kept trying to get away from acting because I
thought it was sustainable and I wasn't going to do
it for a living because I don't really say abody
it looked like me doing it, but.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It was fun for me. So then I went to
a regular high school for ninth grade.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I hated it, but I transferred to the Baltimore School
for the Arts, and then I was going to college
and I went to Howard University as a communications major
and I hated it, so.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Then I switched my major theater.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Then I studied Shakespeare one summer at Oxford in England,
the British American Drama Academy, and I was like, I
actually really really do love this. And then I auditioned
for Juilliard and I got in for grad school and I.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Was like, I guess I'm doing this. I guess acting
is it and only do that.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, it definitely paid off.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It's been quite a journey right to get here what
it really really has. And you were in the Broadway
musical Rents alongside Adina Menzal. Tell us about that experience,
because I knew you were a fan of the show
and you watched it several times before, So tell us
about that experience.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Well, when I was a senior.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
At Howard, my then college boyfriend was a business major
and he was being courted by companies and one of
the companies got him tickets to see brit on Broadway.
So I went up and saw right on Broadway, fell
in love with it. I saw the original cast and
then immediately started auditioning for it. Got rejected nine times
(04:27):
over eight years. I mean this was before Juilliard, and
after Juilliard, I kept getting rejected from Brent. But then
the movie came along. Iriishod for the movie, and I
got the movie first with the original cast, which was crazy,
a crazy moment. And then after the movie, I closed
it on Broadway. So I was the last cast on Broadway.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And you dozens of TV shows and series including Law
and Order, Cold Case.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Annie. What's been your favorite role to date? Why?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Oh? I can't. I can't even know the question right.
Chicking your favorite kid?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know, you can't all love them all, But I mean,
I mean, I have a Joanne from Brent is very
very close to my heart and very near and dear
to me because I tried for so long to get
to play her.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So if I had to pick one, I would probably
pick her.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Very nice and fast forward, let's talk about your reprising
role as Lily in the Devil Wars product too.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Tell us about that experience and.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Kind of joining or rejoining the cast after almost twenty years.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
How was that?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It was exactly twenty years? It was crazy?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You know, I had heard rumblings of a sequel for
a long time, and I was like, Okay, well that's fine,
and I don't know if I'll be a part of it,
because you know, they just really focus on Meryl and
Annie and Emily and Stanley. So I didn't know for
the longest time in pubs going to be a part
of it. But then like last April, like late April,
I got a call that that Lily was still friends
(05:56):
with Andy. So the cut it was very exciting and
also very surreal to just step back into those shoes
and it was like it felt like the most comfortable
thing ever.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It felt like, you know what I mean, the guys
I saw people.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
It feels like when you had a pair of slippers
that had molded themselves to your feet, you know, like
in the.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Back of the closet, and then like years later you
find them.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Like, oh my god, my favorites they were gone and
his feet still fit in them.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And it just feels very, very comfortable and unfamiliar.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
And you know, like our director was the same, the
producers were the same, you know, the writer was the same.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You know, Me and.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Andy, me and and Hathaway are the same. The cameraman
was the same. It was we all just came back
together to tell the story. And it was very cool
because you know, in other situations, like you have to
like pretend time has gone by. You know, you're like
in twenty years later and you're acting like this twenty
years later.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Where this was, there was no acting like it was
twenty years later. It was actually twenty years later exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
So it was really interesting to see where these characters
were in their lives and.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
How they were with each other. It was it was
really a beautiful, fun experience.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
It sounds very nostalgic having working with the same crew.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It sounds very people. Yeah, we're all still here, none
of us.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And how have Lily and Andy's relationship grown over the years.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Well, you know, if you remember in the first one,
they had been friends for sixteen years in the first one, Yeah,
so they were already.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Like just baked in with each other, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
So they grew up together basically, So twenty years later,
having gone through all of our trials and tribulations as friends,
they just their friendship just really really deepened over the years.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And it's a beautiful thing to see. Long term friendships
like that on screen, I.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Think, and this movie has such an incredible cast and Hathaway,
Meryl Street. I saw an ig post that you posted
really bonding with everybody, So tell us about that relationship
on and off screen.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Well, you know, our lives have taken us in very
all kinds of various directions over the last twenty years.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know, Annie and I, you know, would see in
connecting each other every now and then I.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Did another move with Emily, I did Luper with Emily,
so so like we've spent time together then.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
But you know, it's like people.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Have gotten married that have children now, Annie as an Oscar,
you know, it's like, you know, it's it's so interesting
to come back together and everybody is so proud of
each other that we've accomplished everything we've accomplished over the
last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And Terracy, you've been in this industry for decades. What's
something you've learned about yourself through it all.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I learned that I'm way more resilient than I thought.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Oh, I love that it takes a lot of resilience
to stay in this business because the ebbs and flows
so much and it's so kind of like subjective, you
know what I mean, And you have to really build
a thick skin around yourself to be able to withstand
everything that comes with it. The rejection. The success is
also sometimes hard. The schedules are hard, the uncertainty is
(09:15):
really really really hard sometimes, but it's also very exciting,
Like your life could change in the day. You never
know where it's going to come from, So that's exciting,
you know what I mean. But but yeah, it's like
the point is you have to really figure out how
you're going to build your life around the industry, you know,
(09:37):
in order to make it work for yourself, you do
it mean just to keep your safety and to build
your tribe and build your family around yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
So so yeah, I never would have.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Thought that my life would look like it looks now,
but I'm so happy, you.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Know, amazing, and you know how it is great and
determination played a part in your success because I feel like,
you know, people see your success, they see.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
You to red carpet at the double wrist product.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But I'm sure there's you know, there's so much work
that goes into being a successful actress.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So how has failure played a part in your success?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Well, it's it's a part of it.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
You have to embrace it, Like, yeah, you have to
embrace rejection. You have to embrace not being sure what
the next job is going to be, and it's very scary.
But once you just really accept that your journey is
for you, like your path is your path, and what's
for you is what's for you, Like you know that
(10:33):
when you're young in the business, but over time you
have you actually live it for a while and you
have to really embrace it that what's for you is
for you, you know what I.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Mean, and it won't miss you. You know what's for you?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah, And once you just kind of there's a there's
a there's a balance between having to be very very ambitious,
having to really like go after it with everything you have,
but also understanding that you have no control.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah m hm.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
You know when I was watching clips of you on
the red carpet for the Devil Wars product, you.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Almost looked emotional.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I feel like, how is it kind of be in
that moment and seeing your dreams manifest and seeing all
your hard work play out.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's just, you know, it's like a big pinch me moment.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
It's like you know, it's the biggest thing I've experienced
other than like an award show. Like I've been in
the Emmys and that was crazy, you know, and I've
been to the Golden Globes that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But this was the biggest, like movie premiere.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, like for it to happened like that, it was
it was really it was really crazy. It was just
surreal the whole time. It was surreal, you know what
I mean. And I talked to Meryl at the end
of the night, and she was like, can you believe that,
you know, she's still after all these years in the business.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
It's like, can you believe this is happening? Can you
believe we're still here? Can you believe the lucky we are?
You know, like, can you know? Yeah, it's amazing, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So, you know, to have her as an example of
someone who can still have wonder and awe.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
In this business after all these years was just really
a gift to me.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Very nice and tracy. You know.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I created my platform to inspire, to uplift and to
really showcase that anything is.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Possible with determination and grits.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So what would you say to anyone that's watching this
that's inspired by your success, and maybe it's just not
seeing their dreams manifest. Maybe they're going through a hard time,
maybe they're just sad. What would you say to uplift
and inspire them.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
You just have to really really, First of all, when
I was in school, it was very common for our
Taschers to say, if there's anything else that makes you happy,
anything else other than that, it makes you happy to
do that, because this business can be really really heartbreaking
if it is for you, if you know in your
(12:48):
heart that this is what you're supposed to do, that
you are put on this earth to tell stories and
to you know, eliminate the human experience.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
If that is your journey, then.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
You cannot be stopped. You can't let anything stop you.
Like you have to be like a runaway train and
don't let your parents stop. You don't have anything stop you.
You know, you want your parents to support you, obviously,
and it's very helpful when they do, because my parents
really did support me.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But you just have to let You have to know
if you just believe in.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yourself, like you would have to just believe in yourself, yeah,
and all that this is what you what your gift is,
what's your purpose and you just really have to be
unstoppable to do it and believe that the cream always rises. Yes,
the cream always rises because it doesn't know what else
to do.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Caream only will rise.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
M hm.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
You just fight every day to be the cream and
all faith that your moment will come.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You know, me and my producer were just talking about
as someone's success in the industry who just had one
hundred million dollar podcast yell, and you know, I was saying,
I'm so happy for them because you know, everyone has
the season. You know, everyone has a time when it's
their time to shine.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And when when you.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
See someone else succeed, it's clapp for them because it
just means it's possible for you.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Success is just a sign that it's possible.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Right, Absolutely, you know what I mean. Because it's like.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Like your day will come, like you'read will come when
you don't know when it's going to be, And that's
what actually is kind of exciting. So we know when
it's gonna come, then it's boring, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Absolutely? Yes, And Tracy, what else are you currently working on?
What are your current projects?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I'm doing Season ten of nine to one one is
coming up. We just rep season nine, which is very
very exciting, you know, and we have you know, Doubleor's
products in theaters all summer. And I'm in a new
movie called called Some Days that's coming out I don't know,
(14:53):
and maybe next year with Billy Well Thornton and Pambline
Anderson and not coming. I also have movie with Chris
Rock coming out called Misty Green that's probably coming out
like in November.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And yeah, so it's just the moment everything is coming out.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
It's like you have moments where you work a lot
and then you have moments when everything comes out at.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Once, you know. Said, so that's what's happening right now,
and it's and it's very exciting. Oh and also called
Big Baby. I'm in a movie called a horror movie
called Big Baby.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
That's that's doing the the the circuit of all the
independent film circuits, the festival circuits right now.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Very nice, Tracy, that sounds all very exciting. Congratulations on
all your success. Thank you so much for being on
this show today.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And you're inspiration.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
So thank you, thank you so much, thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
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