02/10/2026 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Michael Jarrouj, Dana Ferrell, Chelsea Ruby, Chuck McGill

State Senate candidate Michael Jarrouj, Delegate Dana Ferrell on transfer rule, Tourism Commissioner Chelsea Ruby on State Culture Center, and Chuck McGill of Capitol Market on their Valentine's Day festivities.

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at least, I mean today, tempests are actually gonna warm up,
maybe to around sixty the safday. It will take it.
We are loaded up this morning. Coming up a little
bit later on the show, Valentine's Day is this Saturday.
The folks at Capital Market getting ready. We'll talk to
executive director Chuck McGill about that. Coming up a little
bit later on Delicatana Farrell is going to join this

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and talk high school transfers. Brad with a story about
that at wv Metronews dot com. Delicate Ferrell actually at
the Capitol. He'll join us live from there. Also, we'll
be checking in with Wilson and Meadows towards the end
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Talk Line Company from there. Two day, Wednesday and Thursday
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Later on State Tourism Secretary at Chelsea Ruby is here.

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We're going to talk about the Culture Center. It's to
put it mildly, it's it's in kind of bad shape.
We're going to explain what's going on there and the
plans to fix it. Plus your calls and text are
always welcome to I want to welcome to the show now.
Michael Geruge, who is Republican running for State Senate in
District seventeen. How are you, my friend, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Good. How are you, Dave. I'm impressed you got all
that out in one breath.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, you know, I've been doing it for a long time.
I hear you so so, Uh give us the bio,
Give us your basic bio.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Michael Jerush, You know, I'm just a you know, average
guy business owner. You know, we've had a wonderful business
in South Charleston. We've been there, gosh, going on eleven years.
You know, we went through lots of hard times, went
through COVID, came out the other side stronger, better and.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
To mention the business, if you don't care, I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, this is the Olive Tree Cafe.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Okay, okay, sure we'll know that. Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Yeah, we've been there about eleven years, and you know,
really excited about trying to get into this race and
give back. You know, as a I think sometimes a
ground and pound on the ground guy like me is
what's needed. You know, I've owned a business, I've written
a lot of paychecks. I know what it's like to
make it run, and we're going to try and do that.
I want to try and roll my sleeves up and

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give back and work for West Virginia.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Now, this is District seventeen. Explain the district to us.
What area it is?

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Well, it's good, you know most of Knall County, you
know St Albans, South Hills, Cisonville, Kanah City. You know,
it's it's a big district. There's two seats up. I'm
running for Eric Nelson's unexpired.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Okay, yeah, okay. So with all that having been said,
you have a very successful business. Why would you want
to go into the Senate.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
You know, I.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Always wanted to get into state politics. It's something that
I always wanted to do, and I always said, you know,
I'm going to do it later when I'm older, you know, tomorrow,
you know, But we had we had a pretty rough summer.
We lost a lot of family members, including my mother,
and it was one after the other after the other.
And if it's one thing that I took away from that,

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I learned is that we're not guaranteed our tomorrows. If
you want to do some good, if you want to
you know, if you want to go into it and
get into it and try to give back to the state,
today's all you have.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
So we decided to give it a shot.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Had a lot of encouragement, you know, several folks down
to the state state House encouraged me to make the run.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
And that's what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
So with that having been said to you, again, you're
a very successful businessman. What sorts of things have you
learned as a business owner that you think will translate
well if you're elected to the state Senate.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
You know, that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
A lot of the folks in the State House, God
bless them, they're great people. Not all of them have had,
you know, businesses, have run businesses. I think a business
owner standpoint is what's needed in the state House.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
If you come up with an idea.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
If you come up with a law, you spend money
on it, and it's our money. It's their money too,
they pay taxes, but it's my money and your money,
you know. And if it doesn't work, guess what, they
come up with another one. And if that doesn't work,
they come up with another one. In a small business,
if you come up with an idea and it works
for you, great. If it doesn't work for you, maybe
you can come up with another one, and then maybe

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you're out of business.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
So there are those penalties.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
There is that desperation that need to make your dollars count,
and I think that that's what's important right now.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Talking to Michael Jerush again, who is a candidate for
State Senate District seventeen. A Dave Allen Show on five
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your district as far as the biggest needs that you
see for your district.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
You know, the biggest needs I see not just for
district but for the state is you know, what we
need to be laser focused on jobs.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
And building the economy. I mean that solves all problems.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
The Senate in years past had done a great job
up until like twenty four.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
They did a fantastic job.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
You had great companies coming in like New Core, you know,
bringing in millions of dollars of investment, hundreds of jobs.
I mean, in twenty twenty four a loon more than
thirteen thousand, five hundred small businesses open. Now, how does
that translate to jobs. It's a big deal. And you know,
West Virginia is poised to do something great. I mean,

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we have we have the workforce, we do. We it's
a beautiful state, we have the natural resources. Cost of
living everywhere right now is tough, but we're in you know,
ours is a little bit better than in surrounding states.
I would say, So we have what we need. We
just need to bring those jobs to West Virginia. And

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that's important. You know, I have three right now in
college and one is getting ready to go to dental school,
one is looking at law schools, one's in his first
year over at WVU, and of course I have a
young daughter. But I want them to have something to
come back to. You know, we need to make sure
that we don't lose that talent because that biggest natural

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resource that we have in West Virginia is our people
and we've been hemorrhaging that for years. So we need
to bring them back. We need to bring them, give
them reasons to come back to West Virginia. And that's
what I'm all about.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
And that's interesting. There was actually gonna be my next
question to you, Michael, is that how do we impart
upon those young people like you mentioned your kids, you
know that are that are looking at at their careers.
How do you tell them that West Virginia is the
place that they need to be or how do we
recruit other people?

Speaker 4 (07:48):
I mean, we talk is cheap.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
You can tell them all you want, but you need
to show, okay, and that we need to show them.
So you know, we need to give those incentives to
those you know, to those companies to come to West Virginia.
Like I said, we have the natural resource is we
need to give them those those financial whether it's financial incentives,
and you know, we need to get them here. And
once they're here, are we will have you know, our

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children will know that they'll see what they have to
come back to and that's what's important.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
And we have you mentioned workforce participation. That has been
a very very big sticking point for all of West
Virginia for some time. We just simply don't have enough
people that are of working age, that are able to work,
that that are working. How do we fix that?

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Well, we need to.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
We need to, like we said, you know several times,
we need to give people to come reasons to come
to West Virginia, but we need to be focused on
education as well. We need to make sure that our
children are prepared and whether it's.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
For college or whether it's for.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Our trade, we need to give them those options and uh,
you know, make sure that they're prepared to go out
into the workforce and build our workforce.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Which campaign strategy look like? I mean you're on the
radio today, but I mean you doing door to door,
You willing to participate in some candidates forums if those happen,
what do you.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Absolutely you know? I am going to be me? I
mean that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
I want to hold that seat and I don't necessarily have,
you know, any desire to be any further than that seat.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
You know, I don't need a job. I've got a job.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
I work twelve fourteen hour days, but I want to
give back to West Virginia. My strategy is to let
people see what it is that we do, how hard
that we work, and we want to roll our sleeves
up and do that same thing for West Virginia. The
same things that we did for our business, we want
to do for West Virginia. My strategy is to just
introduce myself, present myself, and tell the truth about what

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needs to be done to move West Virginia forward.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Where can people learn more about your campaign? To get
a website, social media and each other.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Sure, a website is Mike for wv dot com. And
of course we have Facebook, we have we have it all,
you know. Michael Jerrouge for West Virginia Senate is our Facebook,
and or they can go to our website and it'll
take them everywhere they need to go.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Final thirty, as I do with every candidate, Michael, why
why should someone vote for you for State Senate District seventeen.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
You know, I'm just your average guy. You know, people
ask me questions about DC. You know, I'm not worried
about the White House. I'm worried about your house. I'm
worried about my house. I'm worried about the State House.
You know, I have built my small business. I have
a family. We're here in West Virginia. My children are
going to school in West Virginia. They'll be coming back

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to work in West Virginia. We need to focus on
we need to be laser focused on building our economy
and you know, bringing jobs to West Virginia. That's what
we're all about. That's what we're going for and that's
what we want to do.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Mike Jeruche, State Senator to candidate District seventeen. Appreciate you
being here, Good luck with the campaign. I'll talk.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Appreciate you having me.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
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as well. Want to welcome into the show now live
from under the dome at the Capitol. It is Deli

(13:48):
good Dan of Ferrell, Republican from the sixtieth Good morning, sir,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (13:52):
Good morning, James, good to be here.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
What's going on at the Capitol this morning. We'll get
to why you're here. At a couple of moments we'll
give us a status update. So going on there, quiet,
getting noisy? What is it that? I think it's Glenville
State Day? I think is what is that what I
heard today?

Speaker 10 (14:07):
Glenville State Day? Down in the gallery. I'm actually upstairs.
We just had to step out of Judiciary Committee meeting.
Uh so I can do this interview with you, actually so,
but we're you know, we're down in the home stretch.
I think they just informed of Dads this morning that
any of our bills had to be into bill drafting
by Thursday morning. So we're getting to that point where

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any bills were going to be submitted. You have to
be in and starting in the process. So you know,
sixty a session, he goes quick, and the longer it goes,
the more fast and furious that it gets during the day.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
And you've been there for a couple of terms. Now
does it get any easier? Is it pretty much the
same every year? I mean, you're kind of you're one
of the veterans there now, I.

Speaker 10 (14:49):
Guess right some why you know, it's interesting this is
my third term succession, and I'd say two thirds of
the body of the House of Elegants turned over at
least since I've been here, you know, with these two
year terms, and you know, it's a part time gig
for most anybody that's in here. And so you know,

(15:10):
I think life pulls at people in different directions and ways,
and and so you see you do see a lot
of turnover and change. But you know, obviously I think
that's what's the four or fithers I guess had in mind,
it's the citizens legislature, and so it really kind of
represents that. And so I don't know if it gets
easier or not. Certainly in the days. I think the
longer you're here in the more experience you learn more

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how the system works, and you certainly start to take
on more responsibilities. But as you do that, and then
things get more complicated too, because you're you're handling more.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, we're talking with deligate Dana Ferrell. Now you've been
on the show and other places talking about this from
time to time, and it has to do with transfer rules,
and you you know, we are an educator by trade,
so you know a little bit of something about this. Also,
you've been involved in high school sports for a long
long time. Give us a little background rule. I wanted

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to kind of take this from the very beginning to
catch everybody up what were the previous transfer rules. And
then we started having discussions some of the dome a
couple of years ago, and I know, as I said,
you've been a part of that and there were meetings
and there were discussions about it yesterday. Take us from
where we were to where we are now to where
we're going.

Speaker 10 (16:23):
Well, I can certainly do that. And let me say
real quick though, you know that if anybody asked wondering,
you know, why are we dealing with high school sports
and wordin state legislature and they are more important things
to be dealing with, well, the answer to that is, yes,
there are. There's you know, a lot more. I think
we certainly argue that a lot more important things that
we deal with up here on a daily basis. But

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two things I think you know, we can walk at
you gums they as those saying goes at the same time,
and this is something that's highly important, you know, and
I know you're immedia, so you know where the people's
interests are. And I get tons and tons of emails.
Feby gets up on the street about this one particular
issue because people, I think in a state like West

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Virginuary were made up of small towns, and those towns
connect with their high schools, and those high schools identify
with that small town people you know, are connected to
the issue. So it's important to them, and so it
becomes important to us. And I'll also say that one
of my recent research ventures that it took is to
see what the annual economic impact of sports facilities are

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in their community and typically across the United States, the
average high school sports complex and includes your football fields, baseball, softball, gymnasium.
Sports complex generates about five million dollars to that regional
economy annually. So when we talk about economic development impacts
and things like that, sports are big, big business, a

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big part of it. So, now that being said, let's
get back to while where we are. Up until I
think twenty twenty one, we operated if a student athlete
weren't to transfer, they had to do that coming out
of middle school or eighth grade. If they wanted to
make a change from their homeschool, they can make the

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change without penalty if they did it anytime after where
they had to set out for sixty five days and
you know if they did it going into their appliconius years.
And in twenty twenty one that changed. And I will
say the bill that changed that I actually tried to
run two or three years before that and felled each
year over here in the House of Deligate, they will

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always generate out of the Senate side come over here.
And it felt and as I mentioned yesterday one of
the TV interviews, you know, everybody has their reasons why
they run piece of legislation up here. I'm sure the
senator at the time that the introduced that bill wanted
it had valid reasons for them why they wanted it.

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But you know, always sometimes what somebody wants and the
implications of it. Sometimes I always say up here, what
the concept is great, that the application can sometimes really
come off the rails. And I think that you know,
there was concerned with this bill here once. Once it
was applied, we started saying the disparities among schools has
and have not slopsided scores, the recruiting that takes place,

(19:16):
and there wasn't And I think more than anything, David,
to me, this is an ethics deal. You know, what
what values are we going to try to instill into
our young people? Are you know, are you going to
be about something bigger than yourself, your team, you know,
be put your teammates, your school, and your community ahead
of yourself or is it all about you? And uh

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and and there's nothing wrong with teaching young people to
try to better themselves and improve themselves.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (19:43):
We have we have private sports, we have travel ball
and things like that that you know where that takes place.
But scholastic sports I think were never meant to be
a part of the focus is all about self. It's
more about something bigger than yourself. And you know, this
is a one hundred year old We're more institution high schools,
classic sports that have served the state in a really

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country well across that time period. And then all of
a sudden we see this meddling again. It isn't just
a West Virginia problem. It's it's happening across all states,
and West Virginia is caught up in it. And so
we're just trying to mitigate at least my Bill tries
to mitigate it. Say, Okay, you know, we're we understand
and we're gonna have to accept the fact we live
in a world with nil and transfer portals, and that's

(20:29):
how can we manage this to to make it work
the best it can For there's never going to be
a perfect situation, but how can we make it work
better than what we have right now?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
What were the discussions like and where are we today?
As I said, we have a story posted about a
WV metronews dot com and there have been some discussions
back and forth. I mean, you know, just which is
what bills. That's what's supposed to happens while you're there,
right But where are we right now on this Tuesday morning.

Speaker 10 (20:57):
Okay, there're actually three separate bill or two others besides mine.
They're in in process up here at Capital to address
the transfer portal, and two of those totally repill it.
The two of them are totally repill it, the one
that's coming out of the Senate, another one here in
the House. They'll gearhard out of Merciall County sponsoring that,

(21:19):
and it just would take us completely back to where
we were and before twenty twenty. My bill actually is
a little bit of a compromise, and it allows the
student athlete to transfer out as they go as before
into their ninth grade year, and it also allows them
to transfer going into their sophomore year, but cause they're
still an underclassman, they haven't hit that junior senior year

(21:43):
yet when things become more predominant and you start stacking
all star teams together and that kind of thing. So
I think it's a little bit of a compromise. It
does allow them that trial year, their freshman year to
get into a program. Hey, you know what, I don't
think I like it here. I don't see an avenue
for me. They have their driver's license by the time
their air sophomore years, so if they need to get
to and from it, you know, solve some logistics issues

(22:06):
and you know, it allows them to be able to
do that safely. It also allows them to reinstates the
ability for them to transfer back to their homeschool if
they get you know, make that transfer and to get there,
they're not happy, and you know what, I want to
be back with my friends, my home hometown. Then they
can do that all the way up and untill they're
going into their senior year. And so you know, I

(22:27):
see it as a sort of a repeal bill. It's
a trench a reform bill. It's what I what I
call it. I think to me, it's the most uh understanding,
and I think gives a little bit to each side.
Kind of build that's up there. The other two and
less say not, you know, we tried this, it doesn't work.
We're going back to what we had. And uh so

(22:50):
I think you're going to see something. Uh my bill
actually had its hearing stage yesterday and House Education and
uh it is moving on to pass these and Mark up. Okay,
we'll be voted on, hopefully lady this week to be
voted out of House Education Committee, and then sit down
to the four for four for passes there, and then

(23:11):
of course, once if it can pass out of there,
then moves over to the Senate, starts the process all
over again.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Okay, Delia, I know you you're heart up against time
because you've got an interview that you have to get to,
another interview not as important as mine, But that's okay, kay,
I'm kidding about that. What would you say, just quickly,
give me a minuteor two. What would you say to
people that are listening right now that say, look, I
pay taxes, My kids should be able to go wherever
they want to go to play high school sports or
whatever the case may be. And maybe, and you and

(23:38):
I've had this discussion before, maybe a kid is looking
and the only way I'm going to be able to
go to college is if I play on a team
that is well known, a larger school, maybe more more
talent around it. What would you say to those folks?

Speaker 10 (23:50):
Okay, we're two parts of your question points there, and
I think the first thing and probably most important, Hey, look,
it's my child you know, it's my tax dollars that
you know, I should be able to go and do
what I want. And individually, I think anybody that's that's
made a transfer, I don't want to sit here and
judge them or fault them individually, because individually, I think
anybody can make a good cases to why they're making

(24:12):
that move. But collectively is where what we have to
deal with here. You know, we're not just dealing with
one case. We're dealing with hundreds and really gets into
the thousands sometimes across this classic here and sglectively it
creates a landscape that is puts us into unbalanced situations,
chaos and such. And so that's the thing there. We

(24:34):
can't just look at it individually. And let's say this
that the appeal process, it's there for a reason. If
you have a particular case where your kid needs to
be or something's going on, they're being mistreated or what
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(25:38):
Now that being said, before there was internet, before there
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Speaker 11 (25:43):
UH.

Speaker 10 (25:43):
Kurt Warner was playing at tiny Pineville High School and
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on a travel team and play that's what they're there for, all.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Right, Delegate, I know you're on a tight schedule. I
appreciate you taking time on your schedule to be here.
We'll be seeing what's going on at the Capitol day.
We'll talk soon.

Speaker 10 (26:13):
Thanks a lot, Thank you so much. Always appreciate your Delegate.

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(26:38):
culture center. Many of us that have gone to different
events at the Culture Center over the years may not
have realized that, well, it's it's in kind of bad
shape and she's concerned about it. She talked to lawmakers
about it last Thursday. We'll talk to Chelsea Ruby about
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schools will find them no matter what the school is.
Only applies to football as well as other sports are
recruited from travel ball as well. Stay Culture Center on
the Capitol grounds. Many of us have attended countless events there,
but it's in at least some state of disrepair needs

(30:26):
some help. State Tourism Secretary of Chelsea Ruby talked about
with lawmakers last week and she joined us now. Good morning,
and welcome to the show.

Speaker 11 (30:34):
Good morning, Dave, thanks for having me, Thank.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
You for being here. Morgan Pemberton wrote a story about
it on Friday that you can read at wv metronews
dot com. You talked with lawmakers last week Thursday. To
be exact about this, one of the major issues with
the Culture Center.

Speaker 11 (30:48):
You know, the Culture Center is a huge building. So
it's one hundred and eighty thousand square feet, it's five floors,
and people don't realize that you come in, you go
to an event at the Great Hall or the theater,
and you don't realize how much space they're in the building.
But the building's fifty years old, so it'll turn fifty
this July, and it has a lot of deferred maintenance.
So if you've been here recently, you've probably seen the

(31:10):
glass on the front of the building. Some of it
has plywood over it. Now we had to close a
couple of times in the last couple of weeks because
the heat isn't working. It really needs to make ever.
It's time for it to get some love and care
that it hasn't had over the last several years.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
And the Culture Center, I mean, we think about it
for different events, you know from you know, the theater
and different things that go on there, you know, Mountain stage, whatever,
but it is kind of seen as a welcoming center
for people. I mean, I can't tell you the number
of events that I have gone to there, both when

(31:45):
I was in state government and now of state government.
This is kind of like one of the first things
that you see when you come to the capitol, and
it's utilized several times a week, whether legislature, whether whether
the legislators are.

Speaker 16 (31:57):
There or not.

Speaker 11 (31:58):
For sure it is. It's a true gym on the campus.
And if people think about their memories they have of
coming to visit the state capital, it's always on the list.
So whether you came here on a field trip as
a kid, or you had a dance recital here, you
went and watched your neighbor at Vandalia. I mean, there's
so many events that happen here. Like you said, there's

(32:19):
events here three to four times a week minimum. So
it's a place that people have fond memories of. It's
a place that they'll continue to have fond memories of.
We're we're just at a point where it's time to
invest in it. It's time to reinvest and bring it
up to the shape that it really deserves.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
So how did we get to where we are now? Chelsea?

Speaker 11 (32:40):
You know, I think it's a combination of things, but
it's truly just maintenance was deferred. I'll give you the
best example of it. You know, we've got a roof
on this building that was put on thirty two years ago.
It had a twenty two or a twenty year warranty.
We're twelve years past that now, and when it rains outside,
it rains inside. So I see, you know, we've got

(33:00):
to get back. We've got to get the building first
back into good shape, and then what we've got to
do is have a regular maintenance schedule. I think, you know,
part of what happened is the building was taken out
from under General Services care a number of years ago
and folks who were working here were left to take
care of it on their own, without enough resources, without
the skills, et cetera, and it really just fell into disrepair.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Well, and I know that with this Winner that you know,
we've had a really really harsh Winner, there's been issues
with the heat, whereas in there was none right at
one point, right.

Speaker 11 (33:34):
Yeah, there was none, So we have it. It's a
very very old, antiquated again fifty year old system of
boilers that heat this building and there's a number of
them and we haven't been able to get them all working.
Those parts aren't available anymore, so we've been really scrounging
all over trying to find parts for the system until
we can get it replaced. So, yeah, you're right. There

(33:55):
were three or four days now that we've had to
close the building because there was no heat. So that
meant that the evening receptions that we're going to be
here and the performances all had to be moved to
other places. So it's not a situation you want to
be in. It's a building that people have come to
rely on, people have come to love, and we've got
to get it back into better shape.

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is more than just the cosmetic aspect of it, because
there are a lot of artifacts. There are a lot
of I mean one of the first things that people
do is they go to the museum and they look
at these things, and I mean, we're in danger. I
don't want to push the panic button here, but if
something doesn't happen here, we are in danger of possibly

(34:58):
losing some of these things that are on display there.

Speaker 11 (35:01):
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. You know, most
folks when they come visit the Culture Center, they go
into the museum, they go to the theater, they go
to an event in the Great Hall, But there's a
lot of other places in the building that store our
state's most precious treasures. So if you think about the
State Archives, all of our state's documents are in there.
So that's part of the reason this building is five

(35:22):
floors and there's a lot of places that folks don't
see it. There's a lot of storage of those documents
and artifacts. The museum has over one hundred and fifty
thousand artifacts, so you know, you see all the things
that are on display when you come here, but there's
thousands and thousands more that are stored here and that
are owned by the state that aren't on display at
any given time, and it's really important that we take

(35:44):
care of those things. The current building does not have
humidity control in those different areas. You know, most museums
have humidity control and are very closely monitoring the temperature
in the areas of documents and artifacts, and we're not
able to do that right now. So I you know again,
I'm with you. I don't want to hit the panic button,
but I certainly think this is something that we need

(36:05):
to look at right away, both from a public safety perspective,
you know, making sure the employees here have heat and
hot water and that the glass you know, in the
front windows gets fixed and is not a safety issue,
but also long term looking at the state's artifacts and documents.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
You sat down or you talked last week with lawmakers,
what was your ask of them? And as we continue
through the session, getting close to the halfway point, what
is your continued ask of lawmakers when it comes to
this subject.

Speaker 11 (36:33):
You know, it's tricky. You don't want to be the
state agency who's always going back to the governor and
to the Finance committee saying we need more money, we
need more money. Last year, as soon as this department
came under my purview, when there was the merger between
the Department of Arts, Culture, and History and Tourism, I
immediately realized that we needed a new roof. So I
went over last year and asked for money. The governor

(36:54):
and the legislature were very quick to authorize us money
to get the new roof put on the building. But
since then, I feel like I just keep running over
with more and more issues. So what we're doing right
now is we've got architects and engineers who are doing
a complete assessment of the building so that we can
get a number of how much would it cost to
read you everything that needs to be fixed in this
building and make that ask. So right now we've got

(37:16):
the governor has sent over a supplemental to the legislature
for ten million. We know that that won't do all
of it, but we're working on getting a total number
and hope to at least get started with some of
the most urgent things right.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Away, say tourist, some secretary and Chelsea Ruby. I guess
I'm like a lot of people.

Speaker 10 (37:33):
You know.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
I've gone to a lot of events there, as I said,
over the years, But until I heard your testimony last week,
I didn't I guess I just didn't realize that it
was in that bat of shape. It is a gem
of West Virginia, nearly fifty years or fifty years old
this year on. You know, again, we don't want to
push the panic button. We've got a lot to lose
if we don't get this thing maintained, like it should be.
I appreciate you taking time out of what I know

(37:54):
is a busy schedule for you and joining us today,
and good luck to you. We'll talk soon.

Speaker 11 (37:58):
Thank you.

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until they're in office and in session. Then it's about
trans kids in sports, rounding up immigrants, forcing Christianity in schools.
And Charlie kirkday, we's the legislation de band kim tanks
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you're not discussing the state budget today, but saw a
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thought inflation was bad, but our governor and his people
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Speaker 4 (39:21):
Interesting?

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As a tex Texas. The Culture Center also has a
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executive director, is with us. Welcome to the show, sir,
Good morning, Hey, thanks for having me back, Thank you
for being here. All right, So big stuff going on
for Valentine's Day.

Speaker 20 (42:39):
Right, yeah, we you know, Catus Nelson, our deputy executive director,
and I we were trying to hatch an idea for
Valentine's Day, and everybody has Valentine's Day dinners. We know
it's a popular holiday and everybody's looking to get out
and hopefully unfollowed by Saturday, and everybody's dying to get out.
So we're trying to make our event a little bit different.
So we came up with a community of Valentine's Day

(43:00):
dinner that'll be this Saturday, Capital Market from.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Six to eight.

Speaker 20 (43:03):
It's called Rooted in Love and it's we're just going
to have a We have a greenhouse space that is
used by Mountain State Flower in dvance of Christmas have
you know, reathmaking workshops and his own little Christmas shop,
and we're flipping that space into our indoor dining area
this Saturday. But we're doing long tables. So whether you

(43:25):
are in a new relationship, I have an old flame,
or you're single, or you have a partner but they're
out of town, or you want to bring a group
of friends. We wanted to really be a community event,
so I.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Like, then, yeah, you can come.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Down and you know, with this woman that we've had,
chances are not to be the most unromantic person in
the world, but you know, you you might want to
talk to other people because for two or three weeks
you've only been able to talk to your husband, you know,
or your wife.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
You might you might be looking at.

Speaker 11 (43:53):
That's not me.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
By the way, If my wife is listening, because I've
been going to work every day and everything, she probably
needs a break for me, not vice versa.

Speaker 20 (43:58):
Yeah, you might have had a lot a couple of
times the past weeks. You're looking for girls or guys
night out.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
That's fine.

Speaker 20 (44:04):
The thing that we're pitching, you know, it's connections over cliches, right.
We want that community engagement and that that family community feel.
So no matter what your relationship status is or who
you want to go, you will have someone to your
left and right or across from you to talk.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
To, to talk to, and again, I mean, I think
that's kind of what we need right now as we
try to get through this winter. How have you guys
managed to get through everything at Capitol Market?

Speaker 7 (44:26):
Is?

Speaker 3 (44:26):
I know you're you know, you're new to the job.
Not new to the area of course, but you're new
to the job. And yeah, you and Canvas and the
folks over there, How you guys managed to get through
this winter? From Hades, you know, it's it's been a
bit of a whirlwind.

Speaker 20 (44:37):
When I was last year visiting with you, Dave, it
was four or five days I think before my first day.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Today today is day seventy two.

Speaker 20 (44:44):
So I started on December first, and we had two
major events in early December and then our holiday village.
So my first twenty three days were this breakneck pace
toward Christmas. In the wake of the holiday season, it's
been getting our budget and kind of fine tuning our
operation at the market. But yeah, we didn't uh anticipate
the deep freeze. So I'm waiting for all this to

(45:06):
melt the way today so we can get the market
cleaned up and looking good and start looking forward to
outdoor season.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
And some of the events that we have coming up
in the spring.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
All right, this thing's again We're talking with Chuck McGill,
executive director, director of Capital Market. This thing sounds like
it's going to be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
People.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
People need to get tickets in advance, I'm presuming.

Speaker 20 (45:21):
Yeah, So you can go through our website capitolmarket dot
net and click on events and you can purchase tickets
that way. We're promote promoting it heavily on social media too, uh.
And this is it's going to be a great event
with a with a great menu, cocos kitchen in cafe.
We'll we'll cave the event for us, and you know,
we'll have uh an sweet potato and apple byss uh salad,
uh chargirled pork tender loin.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Get hold on, don't just gloss over the food. So
let's start all over again. Talk slow. You want to
talk slow. I want to talk slow on the that's
what I do.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
I want to marinate on it a little bit.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yes, what you did there? Let me enjoy this.

Speaker 20 (45:53):
Go ahead, all right, So we'll start with a soup,
all right, that's a roasted sweet potato and apple bisc
sounds incredible. Mixed green salad that'll have dried cherries, grilled pears,
candy pecans, and a strawberry champagne vinaigrette. The main course
will be a charred girled pork tenderloin. You'll have has
bay leaf hasselbacked potatoes, a rainbow carrots, and what I

(46:16):
think sounds incredible, a bell pepper cream spinach grotten dessert.
You'll have a chocolate pot to cream with marinated berries,
and they will have these piscatti and lace cookies that
you can dip into it. And then the bread is
a herb crusted house rolls served with whipped salt agave butter.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Does that sound good? It sounds dang good.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
It's going to be a really, really good event.

Speaker 20 (46:39):
And I hope we see everybody at the market as
the get out of the winter and shake all this off.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
And this is just one of many events you've got
covered up because you'll be talking chili here in a
couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
Got green Chili shoot Out.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
We'll have you on before then to talk about that.
But you do have the green Chili Shootout, Kevin, When
is that gonna be smart? Fourteenth will have the Green
Chili Shootout in the market. Mayhem Wrestling that'll go with it.
And then in late April we'll have our Flowers after Hours,
which is our big ring fundraisers. So looking forward to
getting the spring Jump site. It's right on our doorstep,
all right, yeah, and it's gonna feel like it today,
although it's gonna be back in the thirties tomorrow. As
long as we can get I joked with you, I've

(47:09):
said I'd like to be able to see my front
yard again. I'm sure it's out there, you know, but
I just haven't seen it in a while. So give
us the recap on the Valentine's event again, Time and
tickets and so on.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
So rooted in love.

Speaker 20 (47:23):
Go to Capitolmarket dot net click on events, or you
can find us through our social media pages. It's six
to eight on Saturday and catered by Cocos chischien a cafe,
great menu. Come and join us in the Greenhouse outside
at Capitol Market.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
All right, Chuck McGill, executive director at Capital Market. I
appreciate you being here man. Good luck with everything Saturday night.
We'll talk to you here in a couple of weeks
about green chilis and everything else you got going on.
All right, thank you, Ay, all right, We're gonna go
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will get us caught up on the news. Dave Wilson
is here, a West Virginia guy making big waves in
the music biz. His name is Eric Hughey. He's going
to join us on the show. Knaw Circuit. Judge Mary
Claire Akers is going to stop by. Jay Phillips is here.
He's with a group called Seed Power. They're very big
in the recovery community. He'll join us, and of course
open line West Virginia Metro News Midday with thirteen News

(48:18):
and Tonight Live anchor Manda Baron and Me coming up
at noon today powered by Selango Law. Also just added
to the show. Education West Virginia co Vice co president
Dale Lee will be on the show today as well
on the local show tomorrow. Should the City of Charleston
have term limits? Some on city council believe so, as
does the mayor. We're going to get into that discussion

(48:40):
coming up tomorrow. Plus doctor Casey Sacks the Bridge Valley
will join us as well. Nine fifty four, Let's go
live to the Capitol right now and let's talk to
Wilson and Meadows. Hello, fellers.

Speaker 8 (48:53):
Just Wilson right at them all on the day.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
All right, where's Meadow? I think he's getting coffee? Okay,
I haven't seen.

Speaker 16 (48:59):
Him in fifty I don't know.

Speaker 17 (49:00):
Worry.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
We're gonna say what kind of food is being served
there today? I know it's Glenville State Days, right.

Speaker 16 (49:05):
Yeah, kind of a makeup day. Glenville State Day was
scheduled during the Snowmageddon event a couple of weeks ago.
So so Mark Mansion, president for Glenville State, is here today.
They get a little bit of display. Its Homeschoolers Day
as well. Okay, so a lot of homeschool students are
getting tours of the Capitol, getting to check out the
legislative process up close and personal.

Speaker 8 (49:25):
Today.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
What's on your schedule as far as big things that
you're looking at today.

Speaker 16 (49:31):
Well, Dave, Senator Tom Willis is going to join us
from Berkeley County, he Senate Judiciary Committee chair. We're going
to talk about Senate Bill six fifteen that passed out
of the Senate yesterday that would require local law enforcement
to turn over illegal aliens to Ice. We'll talk about
that bill with him.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Now, let me ask you, is this is this an issue?
I mean that I mean, I guess I could think, well, okay,
in West Virginia, that's the way we base everything on
as well it could I mean, I don't know. That's
editorializing in my apartment.

Speaker 16 (50:02):
Well, let me realize for a minute here. When things
come up, people will inevitably go, well, why wasn't this
taken care of? Blanket and blankety blank like so? And
I can name probably half a dozen cities and they're
probably the half dozen cities this could happen in where
you certainly could have a city council or a city
administration come in and say no, you will not cooperate

(50:24):
with us. So isn't an issue we'll ask Senator Tom
willis that question all right? When he joins us, Mike
Wolfull stop by, Delegate Joe Steler, House Education Committee Chairman
Brad McElhenny Chas Nuttycombe from State Navigate. We'll talk about
some of the numbers in the breakdowns as we have
candidates lined up for the primary, and Mark Manchon Blombolle,
State President, will stop by.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Well, it sounds like you guy's got a full day
there and the weather's cooperating a little bit, so maybe
it'll be because I know, as you said throughout the session,
there's been times when you haven't been able to have
certain things going on, things that to be postponed or whatever.
Or we're going to be about sixty degrees today, so
you should have a full house here at the Capitol.

Speaker 16 (51:00):
Well, you know it was very very quiet to start today.
But like I said, the homeschoolers bringing some energy here
this morning, and we'll see what the legislations look. We're
coming up on day What's today Day twenty eight. Speaker
Hanshaw's actually got an impromptu news conference after the floor session.
He wants to talk about what's happening so far this

(51:21):
first half of the session. Interested to hear what he'll
have to say. He'll actually join us tomorrow on the show.
By the way, all.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Right, if you happen to see Senator Eric Tarr there today,
you might want to ask him. The headline in the
op ed page this morning, Wilson Tar reminds state he
has trust issues with women.

Speaker 16 (51:38):
Yeah, that was a trash column. That was absolute garbage.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Okay, you want to expound upon that.

Speaker 16 (51:44):
Well, because Eric Tarr brought up a question about a bill,
asking if someone could take advantage of the bill for
nefarious reasons. That is his job to ask questions about
a bill, look at all possibilities and unattended consequences. Because
he brought up a question doesn't mean he has trust
issues with women.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
But trash column absolute garbage. Okay. Well, I mean I
was gonna ask you to make sure that that's what
you call it. A trash column. Yep, trash now garbage. Well,
our midday show is not complete trash. I mean it's
you know, semi because of me. But you'll join us
to talk about your commentary on the show today as well.
I'll insult myself, Wilson, so you don't have to. How's that?

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Well, that takes all the fun out of it.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
All right, you guys have fun. We'll talk to you
on Metro News today. All right, thanks a lot, Wilson
and Meadows coming up live at ten o six with
Metro News talk Line. I'll be like back later today
with Metro News Midday with thirteen News in Tonight live
anchor Manda Baron and me starting at noon today. Back
on this show tomorrow at nine oh six till then.
Have fun. I Love Somebody.

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