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March 4, 2026 52 mins
Dave Allen covers Nitro’s $20 million wastewater utility sale to West Virginia American Water with Mayor Dave Casebolt, outlining rate impacts and infrastructure needs. Secretary of State Kris Warner discusses the John Lewis National Youth Leadership Award and voter registration efforts in West Virginia high schools. Tim Brady from the Charleston CVB previews the return of the USA Cycling Pro Road National Championships and the economic impact of upcoming events, including the state basketball tournaments and major conventions in Charleston.
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Speaker 4 (01:42):
Uh coming up. You may have seen the.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
News from the latest couple days out of the city
of Nitro. The city is entered into an agreement with
Western American Water to sell the Nitro Regional Wastewater utility,
including the sewer plant. The deal has been approved by
the state Public Service Commission. So what does this mean
for residents of Nitro?

Speaker 5 (01:59):
What is that mean?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
If anything to your service or your bill. I'm gonna
talk to Nitrome or Dave case Bold about that coming up. Also,
the bikes are coming back to Charleston in June USA
Cycling Pro National Championships. Tim Brady from the Charleston Convention
and Visitors Bureaus goning to join us to talk about
that and the need for volunteers and a busy couple
weeks here in Charleston with the girls Stay Basketball tournament

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getting underway next week and the boys the following week.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
We'll talk to.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Tim about all that. Also, today is crossover day at
the Legislature. The Huntley and Brinkley of Metro News, Dave Wilson, TJ.
Meadows are there. We'll join them coming up around nine
to fifty five or so this morning. And we'll also
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Secretaries to take Chris Warner. Good morning, Sarah, welcome to
the show.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
Good morning, Dave. I thought you had lost said for
a minute talking about the sunny weather outside you know, you.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Know, it's something I started because of this winter. I
kept saying, and it was like five degrees and it
was icy. I said, it's Sonny in seventy five. And
now I've had people doing hashtags Sonny in seventy five. Eventually, Secretary,
we will get there. It will be Sonny in seventy eight.
By this weekend, we're going to be eighty. They tell,
let's maybe breaking records Friday and Saturday. But I don't
know about the sunshinel.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
I'm on my way to Morgantown and it's cloudy, overcast
and anything but Sonny and seventy five. But I'm with you, man,
we'll start.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
But the temperature, the temperatures are okay. I mean, it
could be a lot worse. I want to, Secretary, I
want to talk about an event that you have going
on tomorrow in the House Chambers. You said you're on
your way to Morgantown. Now we'll talk about that in
a little bit, But you got something going on to
Martha Capitol. It's the John Lewis National Youth Leadership Award,
and two young West Virginians are getting that award.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Talk about it, you know, I.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Mean, it's really neat. We've got two young people, Braydon
Williamson who's a country recording artist, Nashville recording artist, and
Delegate Josh Holstein. Testingly enough, they're only thirty one recipients
of this award, and two of them are from right
here in West Virginia, down in your neck of the country,

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LA there the Logan area. And then Josh Holstein of
course is from Boone County, so both from coal mine
and families, both hardworking and getting recognized, you know, before
the age of twenty five. That's one of the requirements
either have to be twenty five or or younger for
this award. Josh Holstein's twenty four years of age and

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Braden is twenty three years age. So we're the John
Lewis Youth Award. Leader. Youth Leadership Award is named after
Congressman John Lewis from the fifth District and Georgia. He
was one of the original freedom writers, you know, when

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it came to integration back in nineteen sixty one. He
is obviously deceased, and you know, this award now carries
on remembers, you know, his efforts and those that received
the award, like Josh and Braden.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
And for Josh Holstein, of course, he was a very
young when he was elected to the West Virginia House
of Delegates. Also he is the state Republican party chair.
And I've interviewed and I've known Josh Holstein for a
number of years. I've had him on both my shows.
He's got to be I would think one of the
youngest Republican or one of the youngest party leaders Democrat
or Republican in the entire nation.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
I would think at that age he is.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
The youngest state chairman in the nation of a major
political party. And was elected to the West Virginia Legislature
at the age of nineteen. So and you know now
serves on just some really important committees Judiciary, No, he
serves on Energy and Public Works and then Technology and Infrastructure.

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So he is he's got quite a full plate in
front of him at such a young age. But we're
really impressed with what he's been able to do. UH
and being recognized at a national level.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Likeness and Braiden Williamson, And because you mentioned la everything's
got a Logan connection. Braiden Williamson is from Logan. UH
fun Facts Secretary. I graduated high school with his mother, Teresa. Yeah, Teresa,
So there's that.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
Went down and had the opportunity to meet her and
be there at the Coalfield Jamboree Theater when I've got
a chance to hear Braiden. Since then, we've had a
couple of events and Braiden's been able to play those.
But they're just great people. And the Braiden's dad, it's

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coal miner Raymond h And yeah, they're just great people
and really impressed with you know what Braiden's been able
to do, you know, serving on the board of governors
at Southern West Virginia Community and Technic. You know, he's
a business administration major. He also has a very full

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plate with all of his leadership positions and at the
same time making a name for himself on the national
stage with his guitar and singing abilities.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, he's he's he's a great young man. So you
said you're heading to Morgantown. What's going on in Morgantown today.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
We've got a voter registration drive, you know. And by
the way, speaking of voter registration drives, that's how Josh Holstein,
you know, one of the very first things he did
as far as being typically engaged was registering voters to
you know, at an early age. So we're we're doing
that today. We've this will be our thirty fifth high

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school that I've been in in the last year. This
will make the fifty fifth high school that the staff
has been in in the last year. We registered just
over seventeen thousand, seventeen, eighteen, and nineteen year olds in
the last year, and that represents more than forty two

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percent of all newly registered voters in West Virginia last year.
So we're proud of the effort our office takes on
to make sure that we get those students registered and
the school also has an opportunity to earn the Jennings
Randolph Award. I say, register more than seventy five percent

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of the class.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Talking with West Virginia Secretary of Saint Chris Warner Secretary
before I know you go on a tight schedule before
we let you go. News was made a couple of
weeks ago that the Trump administration asks states to turn
over data as it relates to voter registration. Your office
and some other states have said quite frankly that that
violates your state law. Now comes news that your office

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and others will be sued by the Trump administration. I
know you are limited in what you can say, but
are there any updates at this.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
I don't believe there's any updates. We still haven't been served, Dave.
I mean, I know we've read it in the news,
but we haven't been served. You know, it's of you know,
fifteen minutes ago on a SO office, So we're you know,
it is now I guess threatened litigation or pending litigation,
and we will reserve comment now and wait for you know,

(09:28):
our attorneys to lay out our case. We're very confident
in the position that we have. I'd love to talk
more about it, but just can't do that at this point.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
I understand.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Be safe out there. West Virginia Secretary Saint Chris Warner.
I appreciate you being here.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Thanks a lot, Dave, thank you for having me on
this morning.

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Speaker 4 (10:30):
Let me just say this.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
In the follow up to the interview with the Secretary Warner,
I saw a lot of chatter you know, online and
kind of catch everybody up. The Trump administration has asked
several states. Actually, I think they've put on mass to
all the states. I think West Virginia being one that
they want voter information turned over to the government. Secretary Warner,

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who is a Republican strong Trump supporter, was involved in
the Trump campaign years ago. First campaign, I think it
was a former Republican party chair said no, it's a
violation of West Virginia state law.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
And when you when you read the.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Comments online from people said, well, what does he got
to hide or why I don't have anything to hide? Well,
what the thing is, it's a violation of West Virginia
state code. And I applaud editorial comment. I applaud Secretary Warner,
and I applaud any of the other secretary of the state,
Republican or Democrat around the country that are just saying no,

(11:29):
this is not any business of the federal government. And
it takes a lot of fortitude.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
I leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I was going to say something else when I got
in trouble for making one of those statements on the
air one time. It takes a lot of you know
what to say no and to follow the law. And
for that I appreciate. Secretary said Chris Warner. All right,
we're going to take a break. When we come back
a little bit later on a night, your Mayor Dave
case Bolt is going to join us about this partnership
with West Virginia American Water. And when we come back

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after the break, Tim Brady from the Charleston CVB joins
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Let's bringing a good friend.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Tim Brady now from the Charleston Convention and Visitors Bureau.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Good morning, Sarah, Welcome to the show, Dave. Good morning,
thanks for having me again being here.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
The dates are set June the sixteenth, the twenty first,
and the bikes are coming back.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yep. USA Cycling Pro Road National Championships returned to Charleston.
As you said, June sixteenth to the twenty first, we're excited.
It also gives us an opportunity to incorporate some celebration
and festivities for both West Virginia Day and Juneteenth this year,
So a lot more community engagement as a part of

(14:37):
the event this year. But you know, this event has
become such a huge hit in Charleston. People have really
embraced this event and we're really excited to be working
on it and bringing it back here in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Let's take people back the last couple of years about
the whole way. I mean, it's an interesting story the
way that Charleston came to acquire this event, and you
were part of it as along with the Mayor's administration.
Others talk about how how we got here.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, and I will say, just off the top, this
doesn't happen without the support of Mayor Goodwin and her
staff because this, uh is it's a big event for
our city, but it's also a heavy lift for our
city and its city departments. But you know, the reader's
Digest version Dave is that several years ago, coming out
of COVID, USA table Tennis was looking for a destination

(15:25):
to host their Junior Pan Am Games, and we brought
them in on a on a you know, just they knew,
they didn't know us, and they came in and they
had a great experience at the Coliseum. Through that, we
were able to develop a relationship with USA Volleyball. We
brought a men's Continental Championship Olympic teams from eight countries

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competing here in Charleston for an event. And it was
that relationship with USA Volleyball that led us to USA Cycling,
who was looking for a destination for this event. You know,
the tourism industry and as a whole, and especially this
sports industry with the USA governing bodies, they're mostly housed
in Colorado Springs. They all know each other, so they talk.

(16:08):
So when they come to a destination and they have
a great experience, they tell each other, hey, listen, we
had a great experience in Charleston. You should give them
a shot. So all of that has sort of led
to and then this year now we're bringing in USA
Gymnastics a few days after the cycling race ends. So
you know, all of these relationships matter, they build, they
have great experiences in Charleston, and it leads to bigger

(16:29):
and better things. And beyond just that, we're we're in
talks now with USA Cycling for additional and more events
in the future because they really love it.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Here talk about the need tim for volunteers because this
doesn't happen without a lot of volunteers.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, I said, it doesn't happen without the full support
of the Mayor's office in the City of Charleston, and
that's absolutely true. But it also doesn't happen without the
engagement of a whole lot of volunteers in our community.
You know, we estimate somewhere between three hundred and three
hundred and fifty volunteers or what we'll need. You can
sign up as a volunteer if you go to Charleston,
WV dot com and navigate to our Bike City page

(17:05):
from our home page. But you know, the volunteers, it's
not a hard job, but it's an important job. The
volunteers are there to serve as course mark they serve
as course marshals. That's the first time your producer's ever
been in my ear really threw me off. I thought
I was having a stroke. It throws me off. Yeah.

(17:27):
They service as course marshals, right, So they are posted
at intersections and crosswalks to make sure that spectators are
not going out on the course during the race, and
that keeps both the spectator and the competitor safe in
that regard. So it's like I said, it's not a
hard job, but it's a really important job. And again
you can sign up by going to Charleston wv.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Tis What are some of the jobs? I mean, I
mean you talked about it just a little bit there,
but break it down. If if somebody says I want
to be involved in this, where might you put me?
So you know what you would put me as as
a traffic barrier. You know, if a car breaks through,
you stand in front of it. But I mean what
would Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
So you're you're gonna be posted around the course at
different intersections and crosswalks. You're gonna have a whistle, and
your job is to as you see the race approaching,
you blow the whistle to let people know, hey, the
riders are coming through, don't go out onto the course.
I mean it's really that simple. U. There's another subset
of volunteers that have to do with anti doping, and
they have to post race follow some of the athletes

(18:24):
around so that they can take their post race required
drug test. But by and large, most of the most
of the volunteers are literally standing on the course and
blowing a whistle when the race is coming through to
alert people that it's not safe to cross the street
at that moment. It's honestly, David's that simple. Even you
could do it, Even a Dave could do it. That's

(18:45):
one of the fifteen days that we have here in
the company Togain. We're talking with Tim Brady from the
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Birds Baseball. Talk about Tim, what this event has meant
to the region. You know, it's it's meant a lot
both in just the general economic impact of the event

(19:08):
each year, but beyond that, I think what we're seeing
and what we sort of latched onto very early in
the year one is that This is an opportunity to
grow cycling overall in not only Kanaw County, but in
the region, getting more kids on bikes, getting more folks
out and riding, establishing more trails, more places for people

(19:30):
to ride. You know, I heard you say that Dave
case Bolt was going to be on later in the show.
You know what night. What Nitro has done out at
Riding Our Lake just some really great biking and hiking
trails at Riding Our Lake. And what we want to
do now is we want to look at all of
these you know, you've got Meek's Mountain out in Putnam County,
You've got Riding Our Lake, You've got you know, Kanawa

(19:52):
State Forest, You've got all kinds of great gravel riding
up at the Elk River Trail State Park and in
that area. We want to connect all of the we
were working now. It's a two year process to create
a really networked series of trails and map them all
and brand Charleston is a cycling destination for people to

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come stay in the city, enjoy our food and enjoy
our breweries, enjoy our night life. But in the day
they're out and they're riding all these different places with
Charleston as the hub. So we're mapping trails in a
four county region. So all of this USA Cycling and
the enthusiasm for the race and for cycling in general
is leading us to building a bigger outdoor recreation brand
centered around cycling that lasts long beyond the five year

(20:35):
contract of the race. It's also led us to the
thought and we're working with USA Cycling to spend the
Night Races, the Criterion Races off into an annual series
that's hosted here in Charleston every year. So every year
beyond just Pro Roads, you'll have an annual championship event
held in Charleston that we own. There's a purse. We
attract writers from all over the country to come and race,

(20:57):
and again that's something that's a legacy event that outlasts
just the five year contract of Pro Road Nationals.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Again, we're talking with Tim Brady uh and of course
these people that come to watch this, these people all
the teams, I mean may be one cyclist, but who
knows how many people he or she has has with them.
You know, when they come in, those people go to restaurants.
That's why people stay in hotels, They go to shops.
Talk about the economic impact all sure.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
I mean, we're we're looking at somewhere in the neighborhood
of a five to eight million dollar economic impact over
the just the course of the event. These are folks
that are coming in. As you said, they're not just
staying here, but they're they're shopping, they're eating, they're out,
they're doing things in the in the community, and it's
really rewarding. Like Criteria nights are my favorites. I mean,

(21:44):
it's that's the party night, right, We've got music and
activity and slack plaza, brewers, row is hopping. But even
like Steven Jenny from V one hundred were posted up
at the corner of Courier and Hale Street last year
on a corner for the criterions and drew a big
crowd there, big crowds that to start finish line some

(22:04):
other spots. To just walk the course and see these
crowds of people out cheering these athletes on and being
engaged with this race. It's so rewarding and so exciting
for me to see because it tells us that we
did something right when we brought this race in. You know, anecdotally,
I can go on and on about the nights of
the criteria and records that were set at places like

(22:26):
Black Sheep and Fife Street and other restaurants downtown, setting
single day records, single night records. That's what it's all about. Yeah,
it's about the competition, and it's about getting eyeballs on it,
and you know all the different media that we have
from around the world that come in to watch the race.
But it's also about these local businesses that benefit from
us bringing these events in.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
And you know, for those of the for those that
navigate the streets in downtown Charleston, deary and this. You know,
and you can't put on an event like this. I
think there's not going to be a certain amount of
inconvenience for a few days. But I think you guys
do a great job of giving people plenty of notice,
Hey we're coming this way. It's all over all of
our stations, it's all over all over other forms of

(23:08):
media as well, so you know, just plan I mean,
it's true, it's June, yeah, you know, June sixteenth to
the twenty first, And I've said repeatedly, and you know,
we saw it come to fruition in year one and
last year it was even levels above.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
But nobody's trapped in their house at any point. You
can go anywhere you want to go in the city
of Charleston if you give yourself an extra fifteen to
twenty minutes. That's my standard line, and I will hold
that line until somebody proves me wrong because that is
literally the only inconvenience that you might have if you're
trying to get somewhere. Just give yourself building a little

(23:45):
extra time because in partnership with the Charleston Police Department,
another huge partner in this, that we could not do
this without Oldham and Haslet and all those guys do
such a great job. Nothing shut down. The roads might
be closed, but you can get where you need to
go if you just give yourself a little extra time.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
And again, the economic impact of this thing is just
it all goes back to that for me. Yeah, that'suly
I'm that kind of guy. Yeah, you know, it all
goes back to that me and what it means.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
To the area plus people.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
And you're in the tourism business CVB, you know you
know this people that go somewhere, And just think about
this for our listeners, think about this, if you've had
a good experience. If you're going to the beach, or
you're going to the mountains or wherever you may be
going going skiing, you go somewhere and you have a
good time and you're treated well. And when people come
to Charleston and West Virginia general, they're treated well.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
You're gonna go back.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
And it goes back to what you talked about about
the ultimate networking.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Is still workmouth. It's still word of mouth.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
No matter what's out there, it's still they're gonna go
back and they tell people. And so when they have
these good experiences, they go back and they tell people.
And the way that these people were treated, you're gonna
get more and more of this stuff.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
The folks that are here are going to come back.
We have an eighty five percent return rate on visitation,
and they're going to tell other people and they're gonna
bring more people and encourage more people to go. So, yeah,
it's all about the experience. And one other thing I
would like to squeeze in here. We talk about economic impact,
and that is critically important and it's why we do
what we do. But we also talked at the CVB

(25:12):
about community impact. Multiple nonprofits benefited from this event last year.
The CEMC Foundation benefited through a charitable ride that was
a part of this Mountaineer Food Bank benefited from this
event last year. Big Brothers, Big Sisters benefited from this
event last year through a charitable event that they organized.
And this year we're going to bring all of those

(25:34):
organizations back and also add KCHA to the roster. So
these local nonprofits that do incredibly important work within our community,
they have a platform to fundraise and raise awareness for
their causes during this event too. And for me, yeah,
economic impact is what it's all about at the end
of the day. But if we can also make our

(25:56):
community a better place, that to me is incredibly import.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
And the timing of this thing, you said around West
Virginia Day, around Juneteenth, which is a federal holiday, around
all these things, I mean, it seems like a no
brainer that there's gonna be some some West Virginia Day
stuff involved in some Juneteenth stuff involved in this.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't I don't want
to say too much too soon. You know, we've had
a we've had a we've had great conversation conversations with
some of the folks from Juneteenth Committee meeting later today
actually with Charleston Montassori School to talk about Roles on
the River and how we can incorporate that into the
event because that would traditionally be held on West Virginia Day.
So yeah, I mean, and that just again community impact, right,

(26:37):
like we're we're trying to help make our community a
better place to live.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
All right, It's going to be a busy couple of
weeks here Charleston. I mean, you can think about this event,
this is in June, and of course that will kind
of lead us into the regatta. You get that going on.
You have a foam with the dome this summer. You
got all these big things going on. But over the
next couple of weeks, the population of Charleston is going
to grow a lot. With the girls state basketball chair
but which start Tuesday, the boys are after that.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Talk about that economic impact, Yeah, I mean, just those
two events, just those two weeks, that's a ten plus
million dollar economic impact to the city of Charleston. But
I'm gonna share this with you. Yes, we've got two
weeks of high school basketball. By the way, we just
came off of the West Virginia Youth Wrestling Association State
Championships this past weekend in the Winter Blues Farmers Market.

(27:24):
You couldn't park within three blocks of the coliseum on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh I know, trust me. I was at the Marshall
event Saturday night. Steve Annibal and I amc the marsh
University Quarterback Club event at Embassy Suites and parking was
a bit limited. We were able to My wife and
I were able to find once she saw it and
pulled right in. But there was a lot of people
in Charleston on Saturday evening.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah, sorry, not sorry, so exactly. Looking at March, the
West Virginia Music Educators Association, the All State Concert, West
Virginia State Science and Engineering Fair, Girls Basketball Championship, Boys
Basketball Championships, Construction and Design Expo, after that, WVDNR Archery
in the School State Tournament, Charleston Youth Art's Juried Expedition,

(28:08):
and the West Virginia Coal Show and Mining Symposium all
coming up at the Colisseum and Convention Center. We're looking
at ninety thousand plus attendees at events at the Coliseum
and Convention Center in the month of March. So yeah,
we talk about cycling. The events that bring big eyeballs,
but they're driving business at the convention Center every day.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
There's always something going on every weekend in Charleston, I mean,
and that's what I love because even if it's not
an event that's quote unquote open to the public or
it just select people. I mean, not everybody's going to
go to the Youth Wrestling Championship, not everybody's going to
go to the construction and design actually right.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
But there's always two and three things going on every weekend,
and all of those people are staying in hotels, all
of those people are eating in restaurants. And Dave, there's
your economic impact. And big shout out to Patrick Lahey
and his team at the Coliseum and Convention Center. There
are very very few dark days in a month at
that event. Those guys work their tails off and they

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do a great job.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
All right, Jim Brady from the Charleston Convention and Visitors Bureau,
We'll be talking to you a lot.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Over the next couple months. Appreciate you being here, man,
Thanks a lot. Thanks, Dave, appreciate it.

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(32:19):
They are going to be working with them this year,
but I do appreciate the text. Jeff Jenkins has the
story posted this morning wv Metro News dot com. Yesterday,
the City of Nitro entered into an agreement with West
Virginia American Water to complete the sale of the Nitro
Regional Wastewater Utility, including the sewer plant. Nitro Mayor Dave
Caseboll joins us now to talk about it. Good morning, Mayor,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 17 (32:40):
Good morning, Dave.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
How you doing.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
I'm doing fine, Thank you for being here. So what's
the story here, Mayor?

Speaker 17 (32:45):
Yeah, So, yesde we closed the deal with Western America Water.
We've been negotiating this for past three and a half
years for the sale of our Nitro Regional Wastewar utility
for twenty million dollars. We had some bonds we had
to pay off. So I think the total amount to
Nightro is going to be about fourteen to two.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
So what does this mean? Let me back up, how
did you arrive at this? Why is this necessary in
the city's opinion?

Speaker 17 (33:12):
Well, I think it's some people need to understand this
wasn't a decision that was taken very lively. In fact,
it was discussed for many months on all the alternatives,
what can we do with our sanitary board. Finally we
just come to the conclusion that we really didn't have
any other option. We were dealing with a seventy year
old plant. Eighty percent of our system is still combined

(33:35):
storm water and sewer that needs to be replaced. We
got rising inflation costs, rising construction costs. It was just
impractical to ask four thousand customers to try to offset
the pens and millions of dollars. We were estimating over
one hundred million dollars of improvements that needed to be
made to our system. So we vote. They voted unanimously

(33:58):
to recommend the city council for the sale all the utility,
and then city council vote on it and it passed
City council. So the sale was completed yesterday.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, and I heard a comment I think that you
did with a news team, and you may have said
this actually in public when you said, look, you know
rates are I mean? And if I'm wrong you can
correct me. And as you were, I think you said
that you know rates. We're going to have to go
up either way, whether we do it, we meaning Nitro,
or whether the new company does it. You know, rates
are going to have to go up to pay for
these things.

Speaker 17 (34:28):
So we were not sure that the sale was going through,
and we had on last night's city council agenda an
ordinance to approve a fifty rate increase that would that
would have started March to first. And what people need
to understand is that fifty rate increase was just going
to get us back to even. Was just to give

(34:49):
us operating capital to continue to run to utility. It
was going to do a few small pump station improvements,
but uh, that was just going to get us back
to even. In fact, the city, the City of Nitro
had the loan to utility three hundred thousand dollars about
six months ago just to keep his head above water.
We were working with three employees short for the past

(35:11):
several years. We was doing everything we could. We went
through a very high inflationary period between to our late
last rating crease was twenty eighteen. We went through a
very high inflationary period after that, and our construction costs.
For instance, we are now putting a storm. We're putting
a storm water line down Walker Street. The original estimate

(35:33):
for that project was one point eight million. When the
project went out for bid, it came into four million dollars.
So estimates our construction costs were just exorbitant, and with
a four thousand customer base, we can't do it. And
Westream America Water simply has the resources their own construction

(35:54):
crews to do the improvements that are needed. In fact,
they have pretty much pledged to invest forty two million
dollars into our system in the next five years, something
we simply could not do.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah, I was going to say forty two million dollars
that the City of Nitro didn't.

Speaker 17 (36:09):
Have absolutely, I mean we would have had We would
have had to float bonds to that, and then our
rates would have been very, very high. In fact, the
fifty percent increase that we were going to do last
night as city council was the first one for this year.
We were going to have to do another thirty percent
increase by the end of the year, so people's rates

(36:29):
and Nitro were going up. Uh, it was just it
was just the reality of it.

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an average rate payer, average customer in Nitro.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
What does this mean for me?

Speaker 17 (37:01):
Well, an average rate payer is going to see for
the first year, we negotiated a step in increase. So
the first year they're going to see seventy percent of
the full Western American water rate, which I believe is
around eighty dollars. So an average customer will probably see
around fifty six dollars bill. Now don't hold me to

(37:24):
these none, right, yeah, yeah, So around fifty six dollars
a year. Then the second year, there will be the
second and third year there will be increases every six
months until we're at full rates in three years, full
Western American water race in three years. Sewer rates in three.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Years, and so again this was Here's what I'm hearing
from you is and the people in the city of
Nitro mayor is that you just city just couldn't afford
to keep up at this pace. At the treatment facilities
and everything else needed so much work that it seemed
like a no brainer. In Western and American Water's got
the resources to do it.

Speaker 17 (38:02):
It was actually absolutely a no brainer. And I don't
think I don't think we're going to be the first
community to do this. I'll tell you why. I think
everybody's starting to realize. And I think this is a problem,
Uh that West Virginia has. Uh You're you're putting out
these contracts for these jobs, are million dollar jobs, and
you're getting one bid on them.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
Uh it's it's and.

Speaker 17 (38:26):
So you got several million dollar projects and one bids
coming in. That's that storm water project that we're doing
down Walker Street. We received one bid. So you don't
have competitive bidding, which drives up your costs. I've had
engineers tell me that they can bid the same jobs
and surrounding states and it's twenty to thirty percent lower
because they have many people bidding on the jobs. U

(38:48):
numerous contractors bidding on the jobs so they're able to
do the jobs cheaper. And there's several reasons for it
that we could get into, but uh, it's just it's
just it's just expensive to do projects and to do
these tour projects.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Yeah, and I would be interested in what are projects?

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Yeah, Mayor and I'd be interested.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I don't know if you're the person to talk about
this or not, but I would be interested in maybe
talking to some groups and maybe contractor associations or whatever,
some of these firms and some of these organizations and say,
you know, why is it that we don't have more
people that are bidding? Why do we not have more
companies betting on these jobs? And I mean, I don't
know if it goes back to the fact that, you know,
West Virginia has the lowest workforce participation rate in America.

(39:28):
Maybe that has something to do with it. But it
would be interesting for somebody to come on the show,
not necessarily a mayor, but someone to say, why are
we not getting more companies to bid on these jobs?

Speaker 17 (39:38):
Well, I'm going to give you my opinion, okay, that
I've recognized as mayor. Maybe other mayors would agree, Maybe
they wouldn't agree. But the state tends to hold money
back and then release it all at the same time,
and what that does is that spreads jobs out all
over the state and then you have less contractors able

(40:02):
to build on jobs. One contractor is doing another job.
One contractor is doing another job, where if the body
was released sporadically, then you'd have more people bidding on
the jobs. I forget how much money there last year
year before last of state release at the same time,
and all these storm water projects, sewer projects, the money

(40:23):
was released at the same time, So it makes it
it spreads out because we have limited contractors anyway, so
it spreads out the amount that the contractor can do.
He can do three or four jobs at a time.
So that's just my opinion.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
That's just your opinion of one mayor.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
But I have a feeling it's not just the opinion
of one mayor because I've heard it from other mayors
on the show too. Hey, mayor, before we let you go,
what else is.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
New in Nitro? What's what's getting you excited at Nitro?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
What's what's Joe Stevens and your team got crank it
up in Nitro these days?

Speaker 17 (40:55):
Well, I'll tell you this. Of course, now we're going
we have about fourteen million dollars. City council is starting
to try to determine how it's going to be spent.
But we, like most cities, have a pension problem, pension deficit,
and so we're looking at probably putting about ten million
dollars to our pensions, which will make them with our plans,

(41:18):
should make them fully funded by twenty thirty, which would
get rid of a huge liability the city has. So
right now, to me, that's the most exciting thing that
this is really a once in a generation lifetime for
the City of Nitro to really get his finances in
order now.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Ture Mayor, Dave case Ball, it always a pleasure to
have you on the show, and I appreciate you coming
on and we'll talk again soon. Thanks a lot, Okay, Dave,
thank you, Dave case Bould again the City of Nitro.
He's the mayor. And if you want to read Jeff
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(44:29):
of course is the Secretary of State. Now, his brother
Mac held that position for two terms at one point,
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(44:50):
themselves at odds with his brother, and I thought, well,
that's going to make for an interesting Thanksgiving dinner. So
but apparently Macwarner is no longer working there. From what
I understand, Wilson Meadows are to Capitol. We'll get to
them momentarily. I do want to knock out a couple
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Expect the rhetoric around trans people and border security to increase.

(45:12):
Socialism will become frequently used word once again. Texas Shelley
Capito getting some federal money to West Virginia definitely an
election cycle for her. She's using that blue state tax
money to show she cares about West Virginia.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Too bad, it only happens once every six years.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Texas, West Virginia losing cold jobs, West Virginia closing schools,
West Virginia cities can't maintain utilities. We're told West Virginia's
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Texas David said that our government will drop flags half
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But won't forfallen soldiers. Texas.

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All states around US deal with rising utilities, dealt with it,
but ours didn't programming Note quickly, I will not be
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an outpatient procedure related to my cancer. Lord Willie know

(46:09):
I planned on being here at some point on Metro
News Midday. Not sure when that will be even one
hundred percent if I'll be here or not, but I'm
gonna try, mainly because they told me I couldn't do it,
so that's kind of Gavin I am. If not, I'll
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local show for me tomorrow again. I plan on trying
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(46:30):
Midday tomorrow. Later today Metro News Midday with thirteen News
and Tonight Live anchor Manda Barian and Me powered by
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We'll have the latest from the Capitol. Morgan O'Brien, the
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announcement from them yesterday, this one from Mason County.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Morgan will join us.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
There's some new polling now as it pertains to westernrginion
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the anniversary of the Charleston Woolworth Fire. On this date

(47:19):
in nineteen forty nine, seven firefighters were killed in a
fire at the historic Woolworth store in Charleston. A memorial
service slated for ten this morning on the site which
is now around where Rock City Cake Company is. That
is happening at ten this morning. Let us go now
to the Capitol and check in with our friends Wilson
and Meadows.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Good morning fellas, Good morning Dave Allen. How are you
doing doing?

Speaker 5 (47:41):
Wow?

Speaker 19 (47:42):
You got really quiet there. We can barely hear you.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Okay, would you want me to stand up and talk louder,
yes please, Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
I'll tell you a quick story because your radio geeks
will appreciate this. At one point, I was working at
a station and we were having a little transmission problem
that things I don't understand. And the owner of the station,
who is a nice, kindly old lady, her and her
family own the station. She said, well, the announcers are
just gonna have to talk louder, true story, true story.

Speaker 19 (48:16):
Rap on the microphone.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
What day is under the Capitol? What's being celebrated there today?

Speaker 5 (48:21):
Crossover Day?

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Well, I mean I know that, I know that.

Speaker 19 (48:23):
We'll give that a Well, there are pastries and cupcakes
and gnashing of teeth.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
And renting of clothes. It's crossover day.

Speaker 19 (48:30):
God, today's actually prevention day at the Capitol. So you've
got a lot of different nonprofit organizations here, a lot
of students here with Game Changer in the building as well.
So there is quite a bit of buzz in the
rotunda today.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
All right, And with it being crossover day, this is
the last day to get those bills up.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
What are you hearing? It depends on who you ask day. Well,
give give me two examples.

Speaker 19 (48:55):
Okay, So we spent some time with the Senate whip
this morning and Queen talk to him for a little bit.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
You know, there are some bills.

Speaker 19 (49:03):
Moving over there, got some social ramifications to it. There's
the Cabaret bill on that side of the building. We're
keeping an eye. I think TJ has several notifications set
for Team West Virginia that's expected to pass over in the.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
House this morning.

Speaker 19 (49:17):
Ever, keep an eye on Rayleigh's Law. It's up for
first reading TJ. They're gonna have to suspend rules to
get that out of the House today.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
And I think after what we saw in House Education
with that debate and how it cleared out of there,
I think that will happen. I think it's a clear
sign to the Senate. What remains to be seen, DAVI,
is once it goes over, will the Senate give it
an up or down vote? So that's what remains to
be seen, Dave Balley.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Well, and I will say this about Rayley's Law. On
its surface, I don't think anybody could possibly be against it. However,
I think it's I'm not defending the contrary, no no, no,
I was going to say.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Here's what I was going to say. On surface, people
you read it, you think, okay, how could anybody be
against this?

Speaker 2 (49:52):
I think that some people that have questions about it
think that it may be a bit of an overreach.
And I've heard and I've read some comments, some exposts
from some of the legislators who have said, look, we're
not against this in theory, but it's the devil, so
to speak, is in the details.

Speaker 19 (50:10):
Which is every piece of legislation. That's why I have
said continuously you cannot just out of what you think
maybe a principal stands say nope, we're not going to
talk about it. Bring it to the floor, talk it out,
debate it, offer it. If there's something you don't like,
offer amendments, and they'll be voted up or down. That's
how the process is supposed to work, and you can
get a bill that's crafted so it does its intended

(50:32):
thing and you avoid the majority of the unintended consequences.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
There the other part of this, Davis, this bill does
so little. When you read it, it's two thirds of
a page, and it is not permissive and pertaining to
a lot of things. It can only take a surgical approach,
and it can only be utilized if a mandatory reporter,
so that curtails a lot of people that can make
a report. Right there, a mandatory reporter issues the report,

(51:01):
then the process starts. Doesn't affect truancy. If you're pulling
the kid out of school or homeschooling them or sending
them somewhere else because you suspect abuse from some of
the school's staff, it doesn't apply there. It is so
narrowly tailored, Dave Allen that folks really need to read
it and see what it does and stop focusing on
what it does not do.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
In my humble opinion, well, I.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Am going to be keeping a close eye on this
adult cabaret thing. I mean vested interest, a vested interest
in the adult cabaret thing, because yet again we have
people that because we've solved all of the rest of
the state's problems, everybody's got clean water, and everybody's got
all the stuff, we are going to we are going
to we're going to crack down on adult entertainment and

(51:44):
whatever falls under that category.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
You know this business man, and it is it's a business.
We have an election coming up. We need some red
meat if you're far far, far right.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
And that's what these things are meant to do.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Your water in Wayne County and McDowell County is still brown.
But by god, we shut down the strippers. We're not
gonna have at all. Right, that's a campaign commercial, you know,
vote for Dave On all right, Uh no, all right, boys,
We'll be listening to ten oh six, Thanks a lot,
Wilson Meadows coming up from the Capitol at ten o
six with Metro News Talk Live. Our producers The A Train,

(52:15):
Anthony Harmon, Thank you so much again. I will not
be here tomorrow. I'll be stretched out on a surgical
table somewhere. But hey, you can't keep a semi good
man down because I'm going to try to come back
by the afternoon, certainly on Friday. See you later today
on Metro News midday till then, have fun, Love somebodys.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
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