March 5, 2026 • 53 mins
Jeff Jenkins fills in for Dave Allen on this episode of 580 Live. He highlights local events and Crossover Day at the legislature.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
And good Thursday morning to you. Jeff Jenkins with you
this morning on five eighty five with Dave Allen filling
him for Dave today, nine oh eight, on this Thursday
morning in the capital city of Charleston on its way
to the seventies. Today, we may break a record tomorrow.
If we get up to eighty degrees tomorrow, it'll be
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the warmest day on that date tomorrow, which is what
the sixth of March, right the sixth of March, the
warmest day since nineteen fifty six. So we've got a
chance to break some records tomorrow. It looks like some
of this rain is moving out. We've had a lot
of fog in the area this morning, so we're looking
forward to some warm temperatures. Thanks for joining us on
the show. Filling in for Dave today. He plans to
be back tomorrow.
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We've got a couple of guests coming up during the
next hour and we're gonna go now to Meghan Daily.
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Meghan is the lead designer with Echo Literary Arts and
Literary Arts, and there's a big event coming up later
today on the West Side. Megan, good morning, how you doing.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm well, how are you this morning?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm doing great. Well. Tell us about what's happening this
evening the West Side Ripple Mural Project celebration.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
What's happening well, we have had eight amazing artists who
have put together some murals, our first round of murals
that are going to go up on our Arts park
since here on the West Side at four twenty seven
West Washington. So tonight we're going to gather with our
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friends from the West Virginia Creative Network, the West Virginia
State University Extension Service, and we're just going to take
some time to look at all the amazing artwork that
has been done in the first round of mural projects,
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and we're going to look forward to the installation of
the mural side that is going to go around our
art park here in the coming weeks as the weather
breaks and we have an opportunity to start our arts
park here.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Megan, tell me about about what people are going to see,
and you know, you take a look at some of
these murals and they're really impressive. Give me your impressions.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
We have artwork from eight artists from a range around
the states. They're they're they're large, but they're not they're
not the huge murals that take up the entire side
of a building. We've got the murals inside right now,
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which probably sounds weird because most of the time people
think of murals as being outdoor things. But we figured
out a way to do this in the wintertime with
our artists, and they were amazingly flex in working with us.
So right now we have our murals inside it Echo
(04:05):
Lit at four twenty seven Washington Street West and people
can come in and look at them. We're going to
have a concept drawing of the fence projects so people
can see what's going to be happening as we move forward.
We've just got some beautiful, colorful, vibrant, hopeful artwork that's
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going to be the start of some really great projects
going on here on the West Side in the next
few months.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Is there Megan a general theme? Are there different themes
to the different pieces of art? What about the themes?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Well, when we put out a call for artists at
the end of twenty twenty five, we asked our artists
to focus on ideas of community, growth and creativity, and
these artists just nailed it. Just some absolutely gorgeous work.
(05:09):
I don't want to spoil imagery for everybody yet and
want people to come out and see them, but I'm
you know, we have eight different artists. We gave them
the same three words creativity, community and growth, and they're
amazingly different pieces of art, but there are they all
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work together so well. We were just so amazed at
how even though they all come from different communities and
different backgrounds and different experiences, they all came to us
like they the artwork works together, and that films cliche,
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but it's nice to see that even without these artists
knowing one another are collaborating. They all just picked up
the vibes that we're hoping to share with the community
here and they just knocked it out of the park.
We've got some really gorgeous artwork that's going to be
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on our fence project here in no time.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Nine thirteen, Meghan dailies with us talking about the West
Side RiPP Or Mural Project celebration tonight. It goes from
six and to eight at Echo Lit tonight on Charleston's
West Side. Tell me about, Megan, about mural art and
how just kind of the characteristics of that like as
kind of as an art form in kind of where
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that kind of shakes out, and how you know, mural
artists are different obviously than other artists. Just talk about
that if you would, Well, a.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Lot of artists people tend to think of art as
something that you just you buy or you go and
see it a museum. Mural art is almost always for
public presentation. There are, of course a few people who
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commission private murals for their homes or their offices, but
mural art tends to be public art. Art for the people,
are presented in a way that you're not going to
have a museum docent telling you what the artists want
to say. So these artists who make public art do
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mural art there they're just putting it out there and
they're not expecting that anyone's going to need an explanation,
and it's just there for people of all facets of
life to enjoy out in the world. You don't have
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to have an art history major to appreciate mural art.
You don't. You just have to have eyes and a
way to get to see the artwork. And it's out
there for the people. It's it's one of the most
egalitarian forms of art I think that there is. It's
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just out there to be enjoyed in the world. And
sometimes it's it's the most amazing thing to be somewhere
and see a new piece of mural art and just
where'd that come from? That just used to be a
brick wall two months ago, and now it's this big, beautiful,
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vibrant piece of artwork that's there to enjoy any time
of day.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
The West Side Arts Park, So these murals will be
in the West Side Arts Park. Again, where is that
located and what's the timeline for getting that done?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
We are at four twenty echo. It is at four
to twenty seven West Washington Street. The Art park will
be right next door to us. It will be a
fenced in green space that will be used for common gathering,
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community events. We're hoping to break grounds on the fence
project that all the murals will be installed on. We're
hoping to break ground just as soon as we're sure
that we're out of the frost zone. We're not going
to have hopefully not too much more frozen ground. And
(09:44):
it sounds like from your forecast or approaching that so
I'm not exactly. You never know how long it's going
to take with construction projects, so I don't want to
nail down a date, but we're hoping that we'll have
a fence and murals up well in advance of everybody's springtime.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Wandering about sounds great.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Now, there's some key partners here right. You mentioned at
the beginning. West Virginia Creative Network also Wes Virginia State
University Extension Service, and I noticed in the release that
announcing this tonight the Venimum Foundation, Greater Kanaw Valley Foundation,
so key partners making all this possible.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Absolutely, we've had some really great folks, as you said,
Creative Network, West Virginia State University, which and the Creative
Network receives some funding from the benadem Foundation, it's Greater
Kannaw Valley Foundation. We've had some additional grants that have
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helped move this project forward from Mary Amy Goodwin Arts
Amplified Charleston Urban Works. Just Pierson at the Office of
Public Art has been absolutely a gold star assistant in
this project, just helping us with fundamentals and the nuts
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and bolts to make sure we knew what we were
doing with our first public art project. Naomi Bays started
this whole project with West Virginia Creative Network, helped with
the foundational planning of this event. Marrigolds their board. They've
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been great supportive. We've just had so much community support.
I hope I haven't left anybody out, but we've had
just an amazing amount of support and a lot of
people swinging by asking what's going on when things are
going to be ready and we just keep going, hopefully
really soon.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah. So the details are they can stop by tonight
at Echo Lit as you mentioned the four hundred block
there of West Washington. You can stop by between six
and eight, Right, that's the celebration. Get to see these
these mural projects that will be eventually put outside, but
you get a really good look at them inside tonight.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Absolutely, it's we got set up last night. We were
ready for folks to come by this evening. We're really
excited to see people from our community come and actually
experience the artwork of close and personal this evening.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And also, Megan, you I guess have the opportunity to
talk to the artists where they be there and kind
of get their thoughts into their works.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I believe that all eight artists are going to be
here this evening. Hopefully no one's caught one of the
colds that's running around or anything like that. But as
far as I know, we haven't heard anybody say they
wouldn't be here. So all eight artists will be here
to talk and meet the community. And we're really excited
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to have everybody together this evening.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, Meghan, well, congratulations and good luck on that we
look forward to seeing the further development of the park
there on the West Side.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
We're really excited to have people come out and enjoy
all the great things that the arts community is happening
here on the West Side.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay, Meghan, have a good day. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Thank you so much. I have a great day, you too.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Megan Daily, she's a lead designer with Echo Literary Arts
and talking about at tonight at Echo litt there in
the four hundred block of West Washington. This will be
the unveiling tonight of the West Side Ripple Mural Project.
The celebration from six and to eight tonight. You can
drop by see the work of the eight artists before
they head outside. And so there's still some work to
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do on the park. As she mentioned there, I'm going
to put the murals out there. There's going to be
a mural fence that's put up, nice green space. There's
still some work there, but you can get to work
a look at what the artists have accomplice in their projects.
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which was yesterday, And in the last ten days they
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ice protests we've seen in the area in the last
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on five and Live with Dave Allen, Jeff Jenkins and
for Dave Today Metro News talk Line coming up at
ten oh six live from the State Capitol, and let's go,
as someone would say, to the belly of the Beast
right now. And here is Brad McIlhaney, our Metro News
state Wide correspondent, alive and well after crossover day. Good morning, Brad.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
Oh hi, Yes, I have checked my spirit internally and
I unfunctional. I truly am. If the belly of the
Beach is defined as the basement, that's where I am.
Talk Line is setting up upstairs, and you know, crossover
day can be, as you know from experience, can be
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kind of draining, and there have been years, you know,
when it's going well into the evening. It wasn't quite
like that yesterday, but it was fairly rapid fire. And
often the day after crossover Day it can feel like
literally or not, everybody's hung over and it has been
a little bit of a slow and to they start.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
To the day, Yeah, because you kind of regroup because
you've had these long floor sessions. The sentence, the floor
session really wasn't that long, but the houses was longer.
I think, wrapping up maybe a little bit after four o'clock,
and you pass a ton of these bills, and then
it just procedurally, it takes time to get to the
other side and everything and now the committees. So now
focus goes back at least for a couple of days
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to the committees. And as the committees start getting bills
from the other side down to the floor to deal with,
so kind of you shift back to committee. So we'll
see a lot of committee work today and tomorrow probably,
and then you start getting a lot more floor work
next week. That's usually how it like, Right for the
last five or six days, you get bills back to
the floor and you start talking about bills on the
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floor again.
Speaker 11 (21:58):
Well, I mean, I'm always kind of as by the
logic of the process, honestly, because the House focuses for
all this time one House bills, and the Senate focuses
all this time one Senate bills, and then crossover day
happens and there's almost no time to consider the legislation
that the other chambers work so long and hard on.
(22:20):
I mean, it almost makes more sense to do like
a day thirty customer day. Ye have more time with
the other chambers bills because you know, I mean, we
follow these things in each chamber and you but then
they cross and you begin listening to the other committees
and they're like, what was the House thinking? Why did
they do this? Yeah, and you want to stand up
(22:40):
and say, oh, I know, I know, but you know
you're not allowed to do that. The other thing that's
going to happen now that you and I and others
will really be work watching is there was some budget
action that went pretty early and you know, we all thought, wow,
this is really running earlier than we've ever seen. And
then that talk kind of went on hiatus as we
(23:02):
reached this crossover day deadline for other bills to make
it through. But I think you're going to see that
kick back up again. There was, you know, some talk
of a while they really went so early to try
to maybe head off line item vetos from the governor.
I think the governor wants the budgets in his hands.
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He's got like five days to do line item vetos.
If if the House and the Senate went unusually early
to pass that, then they would potentially have a you know,
some leeway to override those kinds of line item veto's.
The other thing we don't know that we're going to
watch is that, you know, there seems to be a
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real difference of opinion about the governor's tax cut. He
built in the five percent once the ten percent. The
House passed its budget with nothing, no tax cut at all.
The Senate did ten percent. And so where do they
wind up? Is it in the middle, is it all?
Is it nothing?
Speaker 10 (24:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
We were hoping, We thought right that it was going
to be on the House Finance Committee agenda this morning,
and did not make it on the agenda.
Speaker 11 (24:12):
Yeah, And I have trouble reading into that. I mean,
the House Finance Chairman Vernon Chris was really specific. Two
or three days ago that committee brought up what had
been the Senate tax cut bill. Again, the Senate passed
a ten percent personal income tax cut, somewhat offset that's
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about two hundred and fifty million dollars in state revenue,
so somewhat offset by an increase in the vake tax,
which equates to like twenty two million. The Senate or
the House process is to bring up a bill and
discuss it, review it, think about it one day, and
then pass it a different day. So the House Finance
Chairman Vernon Chris said a couple of days ago, well
(24:56):
he specified Thursday, we will explore a bill again amended.
I mean that was a key word in what he said, amended,
and pass it Thursday. And here we are and that
bill is not on the House Finance agenda, but that
meeting is occurring right now.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, Brad mic whenny's with US Metro New Statewide correspondent
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this morning. And you know, Brad, that's that's gonna be
key now. Then I guess you know, they can meet
this afternoon. It could pop up. That's just this you know,
this time of year as a reporter, and that's the
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public too. You just got to watch these agendas. You gotta,
you know, you got to watch and and it's a
I tell people, it's a it's kind of an acquired taste,
right because so a lot of the you might have
a bill that pat would probably several bills that passed
yesterday and in one form or another in the House
of Delegates. If if a Senate committee decides at some
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point the chair of the commit he decides to put
it on the agenda, and not all sometimes they don't
make it on an agenda, but if they do decide
to put on the agenda, then they might have a
committee substitute where they may change.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
The whole thing.
Speaker 12 (26:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
So it's uh, just got just got to really watch this,
you know, this time of year to see, you know,
kind of how things pan out.
Speaker 11 (26:20):
Well, we've learned that, you know, again the hard way.
All year long. There was a controversy of Hope Scholarship bill,
people may remember, that made all kinds of reforms to
that scholarship for people who are educating their kids outside
the public school system, and the homeschool families were very
upset about it. That bill appeared on the House Finance
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agenda day after day after day for about a week
without being acted on, and so you know, you just
kind of showed up and hovered and then nothing happened.
In contrast, you know, there's this tax bill that we
thought was going to be on the agenda, and then
it wasn't. The tax build did go onto the House
(27:02):
Finance agenda earlier this week. I've lost track of the
entire week. Maybe a Monday, we had maybe an hour's notice,
and it was only really through the kind of careful
coming through agendas that you just described that any of
us even knew that was going to happen. And then
you know, another example is Rayley's Law, which is a
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recurring and heartfelt I don't want to say controversial, but
it's a bill that would put a pause on transfers
from public school to homeschooling if there is an active
CPS investigation. That bill comes up the year after year,
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and it made a last second push onto the House
Education Budget again I think maybe Monday, and you know,
we didn't know until maybe an hour beforehand. So it
really does pay to watch those agendas because who knows
what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Okay, here's one bill to watch, and we'll just we'll
talk about this just for a second and I'll let
you go. Is that they talked about it again yesterday
actually after the House floor session, and it hasn't passed
or anything yet. This is a bill that passed the Senate.
The House Education Committee has it now. This is this
bill that would be permissive. It would allow county school
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districts to go away from days of instruction which are
now one hundred and eighty days of instruction, to hours
of instruction. And there seems to be brad there seems
to be some interest from like all stakeholders at least
a little bit of interest in this.
Speaker 11 (28:43):
Yeah. I think so, you know, I think it's possible.
But the House will change that bill, which makes it
a little tricky here in the final days of the
legislative session. But that House Education Committee talked about that
bill for about an hour two days ago, and then
they had maybe three expert witnesses, people you know, with
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expertise and what really works in terms of school scheduling
yesterday afternoon. That was kind of an ambitious thing to do.
I personally didn't have the capacity for it, but it
shows me that the committee is interested in getting under
the hood and trying to figure out what truly would
work best. I would get in credit for due and
due diligence because I think they really are trying to
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figure that out. The bill as it came over, was
like nine hundred hours versus you know, whatever number of days.
There's been some question about, well, is nine hundred hours
really the equivalent of one hundred and eighty or is
it selling you know, those education hours short. So I
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wouldn't be surprised to see a different set of numbers
or something else come out of that. But you know,
it's an interesting argument, and it's I think one that
partly resonates with the public in this year of just
so many school calculations because of weather.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
All right, Brad, we appreciate it. We'll let you get
back at it. We're talking a little bit.
Speaker 11 (30:10):
Hey, thank you to CA.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Okay, thanks a lot, Brad mclaheaney. Metro News state Wide
course Bond and Brad was on it yesterday. I mean
he's on it all the time. But if you go
to our website wv metronews dot com, you'll see about
ten different stories that Brad did yesterday from Crossover Day,
the different bills that passed, including one impacting the State
Culture Center here in Charleston. Other bills, the crypto KIOSK
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bill that passed, the what happened with Rayley's Law? That
bill Wyatt didn't pass, Why it didn't get out of
the house yesterday, what happened with that, and many more.
All of that right now at the website wv Metronews
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live from the state Capitol at ten o six this morning. Now,
let's go have another guess coming in with Aubrey Sparks.
She's a legal legal director with a CLU West Virginia
and she's one of those busy at the capitol running
back and forth. You did okay with crossover day.
Speaker 12 (34:17):
Yeah, I mean, I'll admit I'm not the person at
the ACLU who follows the legislative session most closely, but
it definitely keeps everyone on their toes. I mean, it
is a time where it feels like there's just news
coming out all the time about what passes and doesn't pass.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Exactly exactly what you're We've we've seen a couple of
things last couple of days, some ice protests. I know,
there was a one of an organized protests in downtown
last night. We saw some Capital High students they were
protesting out in front of the Capitol. Tell me what's
going on with that right now?
Speaker 17 (34:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (34:48):
Well, I think that there are a lot of concerns
generally about whether you know, government agencies broadly and here
specifically in West Virginia are following the law. I know
that there's a lot of situations where they are, but
I think that some of the court filings that we've seen,
the orders that judges have issued here in West Virginia
have shown that there's a lot of times that they aren't.
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And when we sort of depend on the rule of law,
that can be really intimidating, you know, And I think
that it makes people upset and it means that there's
something that has to be done about it.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Aubry, you're one, obviously, you're the legal director of ACLU
West Virginia, and you follow these these legal issues, and
Brad mcilhaney's reported on several of these judges orders, their filings,
these federal judges I'm talking about in West Virginia, several
federal judges about some of these folks that were picked
up in kind of the January sweep where ice and
(35:44):
they got help from local authorities on those tell me
just generally what you find interesting. What have you found
interesting about some of those comments the judges have made.
Speaker 12 (35:54):
Yeah, well, I think the first thing is it's easy
to sort of see that and just assume like, oh, well,
be just must be liberal judges. You know, or these
are judges who are sort of predisposed to have this position,
but that's really not the case. It's been bipartisan judges
appointed by an already of different you know, executives have
come out with these orders. It hasn't just been one.
(36:14):
I can't remember the exact number of how many it's
been now, but I think maybe four of our federal
court judges have issued sort of similar orders on these issues.
And the real key thing is that these judges are
saying over and over again that people are entitled to
due process and we need to make sure we protect
that because if someone can get picked up and carted
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off to a facility and they don't have an opportunity
to make a case as to why they shouldn't be there, well,
there's nothing saying that that couldn't happen to anyone, you know.
The only thing that keeps us from being unlawfully detained
is the idea that we have a due process right
to make the cases to why we shouldn't be And
the judges are looking at the way that this is
being handled and saying, well, these people are being denied
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that basic due process right. And that's not just unfair
to them. It's dangerous to everyone, and it's dangerous to
a democratic system.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Okay, going that a little bit, more about do process.
What are you talking about specifically there?
Speaker 12 (37:08):
Yeah, so let's say, and this is sort of a
I don't know, I don't want to say a far
reaching example, but to put it in perspective, if I'm
just on the street and I get picked up by
ICE and they say, well, you're not a US citizen
and I don't have my passport on me right, and
they take me to South Central and then they take
me into an ICE detention facility. If I don't have
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a chance to talk to a lawyer, if I don't
have a chance to call my family, if I don't
have a chance to go in front of a judge,
well then I'm detained. And it doesn't matter whether I'm
a US citizen or not. I haven't had the opportunity
to say whether or not I am. I haven't had
the opportunity to gather those PaperWorks to show that I am.
And that gets even more complicated when we talk about
people who are in the immigration process, because there's plenty
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of people who might not have legal documentation, but who
are in the process of getting it. So, for example,
someone who came here seeking asylum, they could have done
everything right and still get picked up in that way.
And right now it's really hard because people get moved
between different detention facilities so quickly that their lawyers can't
find them. You know, I know everyone has heard about
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like the horrifying stories of the conditions and these facilities,
and especially in West Virginia where our jail system was
already so overburdened. We've had all of these problems with
overcrowding in our regional jails and now we're doubling up
on that with ice detaining. That just makes a bad
situation worse. And so if someone doesn't have the due
process ability to explain why they shouldn't be there, well
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that's just fundamentally both unfair and should really give concern
as to, you know, whether people have like a real
opportunity to make their rights into a reality.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Abby sparks with this legal director of ACLU West Virginia
here on five at You Live, Jeff Jenkins and for
Dave Allen today it's nine point forty six. So what
do you think is going to be the response we've
had a couple of these judges rulings we've had, you know,
the status change for some of these folks that have
been picked up. Do you think that there's going to
be a change here? What do you think is going
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to be the result?
Speaker 12 (39:11):
You know, I can say what I hope for, which
is that I hope there will be a change, but
it's it's really hard to tell. I don't necessarily know
where we go from here. And so one of the
things that the ACOU has just rolled out is on
our website, which is ahouwz dot org, is an opportunity
for people who have information about things that are going
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right or things that are going wrong, if they'd like
to share that information with us a portal where they
can do that through and they can either submit with
their name attached if they would like to seek legal
advice about their rights as a whistleblower or about you know,
any other concern that they may have, but it can
also be submitted entirely anonymously. And part of the reason
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why we wanted to make that an option is because,
of course, we hope that there is no waste, fraud, abuse,
illegality going on. If that was the case, and nothing
bad was happening, then we wouldn't get anyone telling us anything,
and that would be a perfect world, right, But oftentimes
when things go wrong, people are there to see it.
Speaker 18 (40:10):
Right.
Speaker 12 (40:11):
All it takes is one person to say, Hey, I
just saw something happen and it's not how I was
trained for how it was supposed to go, or I
was just asked to, you know, say that this form
was efficient when I know it's not, Or hey, you know,
I was present and I saw this thing happen. I'm
really uncomfortable with. And if people have questions about what
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their rights are in those situations, you know we would
either be happy to answer those questions or put them
in touch with other lawyers who can answer those questions,
because you know, there's the saying like one bad apple
ruins the whole bunch. And what we need is for
the people who see are seeing these things happen to say, hey,
I want a system that works. I want a system
that follows the rules, and so I'm going to play
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my role in making sure that happens.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Sparks is with ACOU West Virginia, the league director. Now,
I know you guys have people on the ground at
the Capitol to follow the bills. But I'm sure you're
familiar with the camping band bill that passed yesterday. The
organization did put out a release on that. What are
your concerns about the camping band bill that pass that
has passed the House.
Speaker 12 (41:16):
Well, I think that there's a few concerns. We've got
moral concerns and policy concerns and legal concerns, and they
all come together for us to think that it is
not a very good bill. You know, we can't just
criminalize our way out of poverty. We can't tell someone
you'll be guilty of a crime if you don't, you know,
get yourself out of this situation, because many people who
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are in that situation don't want to be and if
they have the resources to not be in that situation,
they would be in that situation. I think that so
many people across the country, but especially in West Virginia,
understands very closely to their own lives. A huge swath
of people are living paycheck to paycheck right and if
you ask people in West Virginia what happens if you
(41:58):
miss to paychecks paychecks, a lot of people would say,
I don't know what happens I don't know how it'd
be able to get through that, And so I think
it's important for us to remember the vast majority of
people are closer to homelessness than we are to some
sort of extreme wealth, you know. And so it's one
of those situations where you just think, well, like, but
for the grace of God, there go I you know,
(42:20):
like it could happen to anyone. And I think to
a certain extent, the cruelty of not acknowledging that is
part of the point, you know, we have to distance
ourselves from it and act like those are different people
who are doing something bad and deserve to be punished
for it, when really, you know, it could be any
of us, and well, we shouldn't necessarily have to root
it in our own experience to make us care about
(42:41):
that situation. I think it's an important framing for us
to keep in mind.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Okay, and it's a house build that's past the house
now on to the Senate. So I'm sure you're working
on that other side to see what they do with it.
Speaker 12 (42:53):
Yeah, we're definitely. We're definitely curious to see what happens.
It's one that we're following closely, and like I said,
you know, a number of concerns, and I think that
as we see what that final finding version would look like,
if it does pass well, we'll probably you know, have
even more concerns. Hopefully not, maybe it gets better.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
We'll see.
Speaker 12 (43:14):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Okay, Aubrey, Well, I know you're busy. I appreciate a
couple of minutes. Thank you, well, thank you very much. Okay,
have a good day. Okay. Aubrey Sparks, a legal director
with ac l U West Virginia. It's nine to fifty
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Today dave plans to be back. Tomorrow let's go up
to The Stay capitol now Where Metro News talk live
or originate live here in just about twelve minutes or.
So Dave wilson AND. Tj, meadows, GUYS i HEAR i
hear the roar or is that just the mingling whatever
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it is there in the upper rotunda ready to go
on the day after crossover day and kind of see
where these bills end up landing in about nine.
Speaker 21 (46:42):
Days it's a subdued roar, Today. Jeff everybody's kind, of you,
know cleaning up after crossover day. Yesterday and the big
question here we are hearing, rumblings, tremors murmurs if you will, that,
uh there could be some movement on the budget. Today
we may even have a final budget that comes out
(47:02):
of The house And senate.
Speaker 10 (47:03):
TODAY.
Speaker 22 (47:04):
Tj, SO i think that's right because it comes down
to The governor's line item, veto and it comes down
to the, legislature specifically The house having the ability to
go back in and override anything in that line item
veto that they don't, Like so it becomes about budget AND.
Dave once that budget is, locked you may or may
not be able to get much more in if costs.
Speaker 21 (47:23):
Money so that could be the big story of the day, Here.
Jeff House Speaker Roger hanshaw is going to join us
coming up about ten thirty this. Morning we'll talk to
him About crossover day And Team West. Virginia that is
the kind of the crown jewel of this leg slave
session got out of The. House we'll see how it'll
fare over in The.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Senate you, guys that would be a, record is you,
know if they passed the. Budget, yeah if they passed the,
budget because now this this particular you, know if you
can go back eight or ten, years you, know this
kind of group of lawmakers in the last decade or
so have done a good job of getting the budget
done by the final. NIGHT i, mean there were years
THAT i covered the legislature and others that cover the
(48:01):
legislature that about this time or sometime during the last,
week there would be a proclamation that would extend the
session for three days to work on the. Budget that
was always a. Given you know they were going to
see what eventually, passed and then they were going to
work on the budget for the last three days and
then lawmakers would come back a week later The, sunday
after The sunday when the session, ended and then they
(48:23):
would pass a. Budget but this particular group of, lawmakers,
Again i'll say in the last decade or, so they've
done a good job of completing it before the session.
End but to get it and to get it signed
and lineed item vetoed before the session, ends that would
be a. Record but then lawmakers lose loose if they
want to overturn. Anything, obviously they lose their leverage after
(48:44):
the session is. Over so they if they want to
try to overturn the line out in, veto as you,
mentioned they got to get it into him his five
day clock would start and then they would get it
back before the regular session is.
Speaker 21 (48:54):
Over and we've talked about that a couple of different
times throughout this SESSION tj And jeff THAT i think
that's part of the, motivation maybe even the majority of
the motivation to get that thing done early in case
the governor uses that authority that you can come back
in and override.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
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Speaker 22 (49:09):
Saturday power they've always, had but power they've never really. Exercised,
jeff to your, point be interesting to, see you, Know
Arch moore was a master if you go back to
only giving the legislature what they needed to get it
done by that sixty day. Mark if this happens and
the governor's line At veto gets, overright be interesting to
see if maybe he takes a page out of the
More Book mexico around and kind of drags his feet
(49:31):
a little bit.
Speaker 21 (49:31):
Too and as one delegate pointed out to us this, Morning,
jeff it's the only reason we're.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Here all the rest of it's just.
Speaker 5 (49:37):
Fluff.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Anyway that's the, budget.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yep that's their one constitutional duty is they have to
have a balanced. Budget that is very, true very. True,
Okay so we've got A handshaw coming up in a
couple of longmakers too on talk.
Speaker 21 (49:48):
Line, Right, Yeah Senator Brian helton AND tj are going
to arm wrestle to the show. Today we might get
an octagon later put them. In we're going to talk
About Senate bill four twenty that came out that requires
coal firepower plants to run at sixty nine percent capacity
all the. Time talk To Brian helton about That brattill
stop BY i mean nicely is going to join, Us.
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Jeff there were some foster care bills that came out
of The. Senate there was a childcare bill that came
out of The house yesterday that's been years in the.
Making she's going to get us caught up on, those
and we'll try to work in a text or.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
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Speaker 2 (50:32):
Well all, right sounds? Good ten oh six on radio
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Say, here it's going to be a really good.
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That all, right guys have a great. Show appreciate, It.
Jeff all, right That's dave AND. Tj and they're coming
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today on the West Side. Megan, good morning, how you doing.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm well, how are you this morning?
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I'm doing great. Well. Tell us about what's happening this
evening the West Side Ripple Mural Project celebration.
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What's happening well, we have had eight amazing artists who
have put together some murals, our first round of murals
that are going to go up on our Arts park
since here on the West Side at four twenty seven
West Washington. So tonight we're going to gather with our
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friends from the West Virginia Creative Network, the West Virginia
State University Extension Service, and we're just going to take
some time to look at all the amazing artwork that
has been done in the first round of mural projects,
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and we're going to look forward to the installation of
the mural side that is going to go around our
art park here in the coming weeks as the weather
breaks and we have an opportunity to start our arts
park here.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Megan, tell me about about what people are going to see,
and you know, you take a look at some of
these murals and they're really impressive. Give me your impressions.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
We have artwork from eight artists from a range around
the states. They're they're they're large, but they're not they're
not the huge murals that take up the entire side
of a building. We've got the murals inside right now,
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which probably sounds weird because most of the time people
think of murals as being outdoor things. But we figured
out a way to do this in the wintertime with
our artists, and they were amazingly flex in working with us.
So right now we have our murals inside it Echo
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Lit at four twenty seven Washington Street West and people
can come in and look at them. We're going to
have a concept drawing of the fence projects so people
can see what's going to be happening as we move forward.
We've just got some beautiful, colorful, vibrant, hopeful artwork that's
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going to be the start of some really great projects
going on here on the West Side in the next
few months.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Is there Megan a general theme? Are there different themes
to the different pieces of art? What about the themes?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Well, when we put out a call for artists at
the end of twenty twenty five, we asked our artists
to focus on ideas of community, growth and creativity, and
these artists just nailed it. Just some absolutely gorgeous work.
(05:09):
I don't want to spoil imagery for everybody yet and
want people to come out and see them, but I'm
you know, we have eight different artists. We gave them
the same three words creativity, community and growth, and they're
amazingly different pieces of art, but there are they all
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work together so well. We were just so amazed at
how even though they all come from different communities and
different backgrounds and different experiences, they all came to us
like they the artwork works together, and that films cliche,
(05:59):
but it's nice to see that even without these artists
knowing one another are collaborating. They all just picked up
the vibes that we're hoping to share with the community
here and they just knocked it out of the park.
We've got some really gorgeous artwork that's going to be
(06:20):
on our fence project here in no time.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Nine thirteen, Meghan dailies with us talking about the West
Side RiPP Or Mural Project celebration tonight. It goes from
six and to eight at Echo Lit tonight on Charleston's
West Side. Tell me about, Megan, about mural art and
how just kind of the characteristics of that like as
kind of as an art form in kind of where
(06:45):
that kind of shakes out, and how you know, mural
artists are different obviously than other artists. Just talk about
that if you would, Well, a.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Lot of artists people tend to think of art as
something that you just you buy or you go and
see it a museum. Mural art is almost always for
public presentation. There are, of course a few people who
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commission private murals for their homes or their offices, but
mural art tends to be public art. Art for the people,
are presented in a way that you're not going to
have a museum docent telling you what the artists want
to say. So these artists who make public art do
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mural art there they're just putting it out there and
they're not expecting that anyone's going to need an explanation,
and it's just there for people of all facets of
life to enjoy out in the world. You don't have
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to have an art history major to appreciate mural art.
You don't. You just have to have eyes and a
way to get to see the artwork. And it's out
there for the people. It's it's one of the most
egalitarian forms of art I think that there is. It's
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just out there to be enjoyed in the world. And
sometimes it's it's the most amazing thing to be somewhere
and see a new piece of mural art and just
where'd that come from? That just used to be a
brick wall two months ago, and now it's this big, beautiful,
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vibrant piece of artwork that's there to enjoy any time
of day.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
The West Side Arts Park, So these murals will be
in the West Side Arts Park. Again, where is that
located and what's the timeline for getting that done?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
We are at four twenty echo. It is at four
to twenty seven West Washington Street. The Art park will
be right next door to us. It will be a
fenced in green space that will be used for common gathering,
(09:22):
community events. We're hoping to break grounds on the fence
project that all the murals will be installed on. We're
hoping to break ground just as soon as we're sure
that we're out of the frost zone. We're not going
to have hopefully not too much more frozen ground. And
(09:44):
it sounds like from your forecast or approaching that so
I'm not exactly. You never know how long it's going
to take with construction projects, so I don't want to
nail down a date, but we're hoping that we'll have
a fence and murals up well in advance of everybody's springtime.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Wandering about sounds great.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Now, there's some key partners here right. You mentioned at
the beginning. West Virginia Creative Network also Wes Virginia State
University Extension Service, and I noticed in the release that
announcing this tonight the Venimum Foundation, Greater Kanaw Valley Foundation,
so key partners making all this possible.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Absolutely, we've had some really great folks, as you said,
Creative Network, West Virginia State University, which and the Creative
Network receives some funding from the benadem Foundation, it's Greater
Kannaw Valley Foundation. We've had some additional grants that have
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helped move this project forward from Mary Amy Goodwin Arts
Amplified Charleston Urban Works. Just Pierson at the Office of
Public Art has been absolutely a gold star assistant in
this project, just helping us with fundamentals and the nuts
(11:21):
and bolts to make sure we knew what we were
doing with our first public art project. Naomi Bays started
this whole project with West Virginia Creative Network, helped with
the foundational planning of this event. Marrigolds their board. They've
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been great supportive. We've just had so much community support.
I hope I haven't left anybody out, but we've had
just an amazing amount of support and a lot of
people swinging by asking what's going on when things are
going to be ready and we just keep going, hopefully
really soon.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah. So the details are they can stop by tonight
at Echo Lit as you mentioned the four hundred block
there of West Washington. You can stop by between six
and eight, Right, that's the celebration. Get to see these
these mural projects that will be eventually put outside, but
you get a really good look at them inside tonight.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Absolutely, it's we got set up last night. We were
ready for folks to come by this evening. We're really
excited to see people from our community come and actually
experience the artwork of close and personal this evening.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And also, Megan, you I guess have the opportunity to
talk to the artists where they be there and kind
of get their thoughts into their works.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I believe that all eight artists are going to be
here this evening. Hopefully no one's caught one of the
colds that's running around or anything like that. But as
far as I know, we haven't heard anybody say they
wouldn't be here. So all eight artists will be here
to talk and meet the community. And we're really excited
(13:11):
to have everybody together this evening.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, Meghan, well, congratulations and good luck on that we
look forward to seeing the further development of the park
there on the West Side.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
We're really excited to have people come out and enjoy
all the great things that the arts community is happening
here on the West Side.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay, Meghan, have a good day. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Thank you so much. I have a great day, you too.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Megan Daily, she's a lead designer with Echo Literary Arts
and talking about at tonight at Echo litt there in
the four hundred block of West Washington. This will be
the unveiling tonight of the West Side Ripple Mural Project.
The celebration from six and to eight tonight. You can
drop by see the work of the eight artists before
they head outside. And so there's still some work to
(13:59):
do on the park. As she mentioned there, I'm going
to put the murals out there. There's going to be
a mural fence that's put up, nice green space. There's
still some work there, but you can get to work
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ten oh six live from the State Capitol, and let's go,
as someone would say, to the belly of the Beast
right now. And here is Brad McIlhaney, our Metro News
state Wide correspondent, alive and well after crossover day. Good morning, Brad.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
Oh hi, Yes, I have checked my spirit internally and
I unfunctional. I truly am. If the belly of the
Beach is defined as the basement, that's where I am.
Talk Line is setting up upstairs, and you know, crossover
day can be, as you know from experience, can be
(20:50):
kind of draining, and there have been years, you know,
when it's going well into the evening. It wasn't quite
like that yesterday, but it was fairly rapid fire. And
often the day after crossover Day it can feel like
literally or not, everybody's hung over and it has been
a little bit of a slow and to they start.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
To the day, Yeah, because you kind of regroup because
you've had these long floor sessions. The sentence, the floor
session really wasn't that long, but the houses was longer.
I think, wrapping up maybe a little bit after four o'clock,
and you pass a ton of these bills, and then
it just procedurally, it takes time to get to the
other side and everything and now the committees. So now
focus goes back at least for a couple of days
(21:34):
to the committees. And as the committees start getting bills
from the other side down to the floor to deal with,
so kind of you shift back to committee. So we'll
see a lot of committee work today and tomorrow probably,
and then you start getting a lot more floor work
next week. That's usually how it like, Right for the
last five or six days, you get bills back to
the floor and you start talking about bills on the
(21:56):
floor again.
Speaker 11 (21:58):
Well, I mean, I'm always kind of as by the
logic of the process, honestly, because the House focuses for
all this time one House bills, and the Senate focuses
all this time one Senate bills, and then crossover day
happens and there's almost no time to consider the legislation
that the other chambers work so long and hard on.
(22:20):
I mean, it almost makes more sense to do like
a day thirty customer day. Ye have more time with
the other chambers bills because you know, I mean, we
follow these things in each chamber and you but then
they cross and you begin listening to the other committees
and they're like, what was the House thinking? Why did
they do this? Yeah, and you want to stand up
(22:40):
and say, oh, I know, I know, but you know
you're not allowed to do that. The other thing that's
going to happen now that you and I and others
will really be work watching is there was some budget
action that went pretty early and you know, we all thought, wow,
this is really running earlier than we've ever seen. And
then that talk kind of went on hiatus as we
(23:02):
reached this crossover day deadline for other bills to make
it through. But I think you're going to see that
kick back up again. There was, you know, some talk
of a while they really went so early to try
to maybe head off line item vetos from the governor.
I think the governor wants the budgets in his hands.
(23:23):
He's got like five days to do line item vetos.
If if the House and the Senate went unusually early
to pass that, then they would potentially have a you know,
some leeway to override those kinds of line item veto's.
The other thing we don't know that we're going to
watch is that, you know, there seems to be a
(23:44):
real difference of opinion about the governor's tax cut. He
built in the five percent once the ten percent. The
House passed its budget with nothing, no tax cut at all.
The Senate did ten percent. And so where do they
wind up? Is it in the middle, is it all?
Is it nothing?
Speaker 10 (24:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
We were hoping, We thought right that it was going
to be on the House Finance Committee agenda this morning,
and did not make it on the agenda.
Speaker 11 (24:12):
Yeah, And I have trouble reading into that. I mean,
the House Finance Chairman Vernon Chris was really specific. Two
or three days ago that committee brought up what had
been the Senate tax cut bill. Again, the Senate passed
a ten percent personal income tax cut, somewhat offset that's
(24:33):
about two hundred and fifty million dollars in state revenue,
so somewhat offset by an increase in the vake tax,
which equates to like twenty two million. The Senate or
the House process is to bring up a bill and
discuss it, review it, think about it one day, and
then pass it a different day. So the House Finance
Chairman Vernon Chris said a couple of days ago, well
(24:56):
he specified Thursday, we will explore a bill again amended.
I mean that was a key word in what he said, amended,
and pass it Thursday. And here we are and that
bill is not on the House Finance agenda, but that
meeting is occurring right now.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, Brad mic whenny's with US Metro New Statewide correspondent
Jeff Jenkins in for Dave Allen here on five eighty
Live is nine thirty two. Ryan Nicholson is my producer
this morning. And you know, Brad, that's that's gonna be
key now. Then I guess you know, they can meet
this afternoon. It could pop up. That's just this you know,
this time of year as a reporter, and that's the
(25:36):
public too. You just got to watch these agendas. You gotta,
you know, you got to watch and and it's a
I tell people, it's a it's kind of an acquired taste,
right because so a lot of the you might have
a bill that pat would probably several bills that passed
yesterday and in one form or another in the House
of Delegates. If if a Senate committee decides at some
(25:58):
point the chair of the commit he decides to put
it on the agenda, and not all sometimes they don't
make it on an agenda, but if they do decide
to put on the agenda, then they might have a
committee substitute where they may change.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
The whole thing.
Speaker 12 (26:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
So it's uh, just got just got to really watch this,
you know, this time of year to see, you know,
kind of how things pan out.
Speaker 11 (26:20):
Well, we've learned that, you know, again the hard way.
All year long. There was a controversy of Hope Scholarship bill,
people may remember, that made all kinds of reforms to
that scholarship for people who are educating their kids outside
the public school system, and the homeschool families were very
upset about it. That bill appeared on the House Finance
(26:40):
agenda day after day after day for about a week
without being acted on, and so you know, you just
kind of showed up and hovered and then nothing happened.
In contrast, you know, there's this tax bill that we
thought was going to be on the agenda, and then
it wasn't. The tax build did go onto the House
(27:02):
Finance agenda earlier this week. I've lost track of the
entire week. Maybe a Monday, we had maybe an hour's notice,
and it was only really through the kind of careful
coming through agendas that you just described that any of
us even knew that was going to happen. And then
you know, another example is Rayley's Law, which is a
(27:25):
recurring and heartfelt I don't want to say controversial, but
it's a bill that would put a pause on transfers
from public school to homeschooling if there is an active
CPS investigation. That bill comes up the year after year,
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and it made a last second push onto the House
Education Budget again I think maybe Monday, and you know,
we didn't know until maybe an hour beforehand. So it
really does pay to watch those agendas because who knows
what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Okay, here's one bill to watch, and we'll just we'll
talk about this just for a second and I'll let
you go. Is that they talked about it again yesterday
actually after the House floor session, and it hasn't passed
or anything yet. This is a bill that passed the Senate.
The House Education Committee has it now. This is this
bill that would be permissive. It would allow county school
(28:24):
districts to go away from days of instruction which are
now one hundred and eighty days of instruction, to hours
of instruction. And there seems to be brad there seems
to be some interest from like all stakeholders at least
a little bit of interest in this.
Speaker 11 (28:43):
Yeah. I think so, you know, I think it's possible.
But the House will change that bill, which makes it
a little tricky here in the final days of the
legislative session. But that House Education Committee talked about that
bill for about an hour two days ago, and then
they had maybe three expert witnesses, people you know, with
(29:05):
expertise and what really works in terms of school scheduling
yesterday afternoon. That was kind of an ambitious thing to do.
I personally didn't have the capacity for it, but it
shows me that the committee is interested in getting under
the hood and trying to figure out what truly would
work best. I would get in credit for due and
due diligence because I think they really are trying to
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figure that out. The bill as it came over, was
like nine hundred hours versus you know, whatever number of days.
There's been some question about, well, is nine hundred hours
really the equivalent of one hundred and eighty or is
it selling you know, those education hours short. So I
(29:48):
wouldn't be surprised to see a different set of numbers
or something else come out of that. But you know,
it's an interesting argument, and it's I think one that
partly resonates with the public in this year of just
so many school calculations because of weather.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
All right, Brad, we appreciate it. We'll let you get
back at it. We're talking a little bit.
Speaker 11 (30:10):
Hey, thank you to CA.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Okay, thanks a lot, Brad mclaheaney. Metro News state Wide
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live from the state Capitol at ten o six this morning. Now,
let's go have another guess coming in with Aubrey Sparks.
She's a legal legal director with a CLU West Virginia
and she's one of those busy at the capitol running
back and forth. You did okay with crossover day.
Speaker 12 (34:17):
Yeah, I mean, I'll admit I'm not the person at
the ACLU who follows the legislative session most closely, but
it definitely keeps everyone on their toes. I mean, it
is a time where it feels like there's just news
coming out all the time about what passes and doesn't pass.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Exactly exactly what you're We've we've seen a couple of
things last couple of days, some ice protests. I know,
there was a one of an organized protests in downtown
last night. We saw some Capital High students they were
protesting out in front of the Capitol. Tell me what's
going on with that right now?
Speaker 17 (34:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (34:48):
Well, I think that there are a lot of concerns
generally about whether you know, government agencies broadly and here
specifically in West Virginia are following the law. I know
that there's a lot of situations where they are, but
I think that some of the court filings that we've seen,
the orders that judges have issued here in West Virginia
have shown that there's a lot of times that they aren't.
(35:11):
And when we sort of depend on the rule of law,
that can be really intimidating, you know, And I think
that it makes people upset and it means that there's
something that has to be done about it.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Aubry, you're one, obviously, you're the legal director of ACLU
West Virginia, and you follow these these legal issues, and
Brad mcilhaney's reported on several of these judges orders, their filings,
these federal judges I'm talking about in West Virginia, several
federal judges about some of these folks that were picked
up in kind of the January sweep where ice and
(35:44):
they got help from local authorities on those tell me
just generally what you find interesting. What have you found
interesting about some of those comments the judges have made.
Speaker 12 (35:54):
Yeah, well, I think the first thing is it's easy
to sort of see that and just assume like, oh, well,
be just must be liberal judges. You know, or these
are judges who are sort of predisposed to have this position,
but that's really not the case. It's been bipartisan judges
appointed by an already of different you know, executives have
come out with these orders. It hasn't just been one.
(36:14):
I can't remember the exact number of how many it's
been now, but I think maybe four of our federal
court judges have issued sort of similar orders on these issues.
And the real key thing is that these judges are
saying over and over again that people are entitled to
due process and we need to make sure we protect
that because if someone can get picked up and carted
(36:34):
off to a facility and they don't have an opportunity
to make a case as to why they shouldn't be there, well,
there's nothing saying that that couldn't happen to anyone, you know.
The only thing that keeps us from being unlawfully detained
is the idea that we have a due process right
to make the cases to why we shouldn't be And
the judges are looking at the way that this is
being handled and saying, well, these people are being denied
(36:55):
that basic due process right. And that's not just unfair
to them. It's dangerous to everyone, and it's dangerous to
a democratic system.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Okay, going that a little bit, more about do process.
What are you talking about specifically there?
Speaker 12 (37:08):
Yeah, so let's say, and this is sort of a
I don't know, I don't want to say a far
reaching example, but to put it in perspective, if I'm
just on the street and I get picked up by
ICE and they say, well, you're not a US citizen
and I don't have my passport on me right, and
they take me to South Central and then they take
me into an ICE detention facility. If I don't have
(37:29):
a chance to talk to a lawyer, if I don't
have a chance to call my family, if I don't
have a chance to go in front of a judge,
well then I'm detained. And it doesn't matter whether I'm
a US citizen or not. I haven't had the opportunity
to say whether or not I am. I haven't had
the opportunity to gather those PaperWorks to show that I am.
And that gets even more complicated when we talk about
people who are in the immigration process, because there's plenty
(37:51):
of people who might not have legal documentation, but who
are in the process of getting it. So, for example,
someone who came here seeking asylum, they could have done
everything right and still get picked up in that way.
And right now it's really hard because people get moved
between different detention facilities so quickly that their lawyers can't
find them. You know, I know everyone has heard about
(38:12):
like the horrifying stories of the conditions and these facilities,
and especially in West Virginia where our jail system was
already so overburdened. We've had all of these problems with
overcrowding in our regional jails and now we're doubling up
on that with ice detaining. That just makes a bad
situation worse. And so if someone doesn't have the due
process ability to explain why they shouldn't be there, well
(38:35):
that's just fundamentally both unfair and should really give concern
as to, you know, whether people have like a real
opportunity to make their rights into a reality.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Abby sparks with this legal director of ACLU West Virginia
here on five at You Live, Jeff Jenkins and for
Dave Allen today it's nine point forty six. So what
do you think is going to be the response we've
had a couple of these judges rulings we've had, you know,
the status change for some of these folks that have
been picked up. Do you think that there's going to
be a change here? What do you think is going
(39:09):
to be the result?
Speaker 12 (39:11):
You know, I can say what I hope for, which
is that I hope there will be a change, but
it's it's really hard to tell. I don't necessarily know
where we go from here. And so one of the
things that the ACOU has just rolled out is on
our website, which is ahouwz dot org, is an opportunity
for people who have information about things that are going
(39:33):
right or things that are going wrong, if they'd like
to share that information with us a portal where they
can do that through and they can either submit with
their name attached if they would like to seek legal
advice about their rights as a whistleblower or about you know,
any other concern that they may have, but it can
also be submitted entirely anonymously. And part of the reason
(39:53):
why we wanted to make that an option is because,
of course, we hope that there is no waste, fraud, abuse,
illegality going on. If that was the case, and nothing
bad was happening, then we wouldn't get anyone telling us anything,
and that would be a perfect world, right, But oftentimes
when things go wrong, people are there to see it.
Speaker 18 (40:10):
Right.
Speaker 12 (40:11):
All it takes is one person to say, Hey, I
just saw something happen and it's not how I was
trained for how it was supposed to go, or I
was just asked to, you know, say that this form
was efficient when I know it's not, Or hey, you know,
I was present and I saw this thing happen. I'm
really uncomfortable with. And if people have questions about what
(40:32):
their rights are in those situations, you know we would
either be happy to answer those questions or put them
in touch with other lawyers who can answer those questions,
because you know, there's the saying like one bad apple
ruins the whole bunch. And what we need is for
the people who see are seeing these things happen to say, hey,
I want a system that works. I want a system
that follows the rules, and so I'm going to play
(40:55):
my role in making sure that happens.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Sparks is with ACOU West Virginia, the league director. Now,
I know you guys have people on the ground at
the Capitol to follow the bills. But I'm sure you're
familiar with the camping band bill that passed yesterday. The
organization did put out a release on that. What are
your concerns about the camping band bill that pass that
has passed the House.
Speaker 12 (41:16):
Well, I think that there's a few concerns. We've got
moral concerns and policy concerns and legal concerns, and they
all come together for us to think that it is
not a very good bill. You know, we can't just
criminalize our way out of poverty. We can't tell someone
you'll be guilty of a crime if you don't, you know,
get yourself out of this situation, because many people who
(41:37):
are in that situation don't want to be and if
they have the resources to not be in that situation,
they would be in that situation. I think that so
many people across the country, but especially in West Virginia,
understands very closely to their own lives. A huge swath
of people are living paycheck to paycheck right and if
you ask people in West Virginia what happens if you
(41:58):
miss to paychecks paychecks, a lot of people would say,
I don't know what happens I don't know how it'd
be able to get through that, And so I think
it's important for us to remember the vast majority of
people are closer to homelessness than we are to some
sort of extreme wealth, you know. And so it's one
of those situations where you just think, well, like, but
for the grace of God, there go I you know,
(42:20):
like it could happen to anyone. And I think to
a certain extent, the cruelty of not acknowledging that is
part of the point, you know, we have to distance
ourselves from it and act like those are different people
who are doing something bad and deserve to be punished
for it, when really, you know, it could be any
of us, and well, we shouldn't necessarily have to root
it in our own experience to make us care about
(42:41):
that situation. I think it's an important framing for us
to keep in mind.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Okay, and it's a house build that's past the house
now on to the Senate. So I'm sure you're working
on that other side to see what they do with it.
Speaker 12 (42:53):
Yeah, we're definitely. We're definitely curious to see what happens.
It's one that we're following closely, and like I said,
you know, a number of concerns, and I think that
as we see what that final finding version would look like,
if it does pass well, we'll probably you know, have
even more concerns. Hopefully not, maybe it gets better.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
We'll see.
Speaker 12 (43:14):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Okay, Aubrey, Well, I know you're busy. I appreciate a
couple of minutes. Thank you, well, thank you very much. Okay,
have a good day. Okay. Aubrey Sparks, a legal director
with ac l U West Virginia. It's nine to fifty
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ecchs The voice Of. Charleston Jeff jenkins in For Dave allen.
Today dave plans to be back. Tomorrow let's go up
to The Stay capitol now Where Metro News talk live
or originate live here in just about twelve minutes or.
So Dave wilson AND. Tj, meadows, GUYS i HEAR i
hear the roar or is that just the mingling whatever
(46:35):
it is there in the upper rotunda ready to go
on the day after crossover day and kind of see
where these bills end up landing in about nine.
Speaker 21 (46:42):
Days it's a subdued roar, Today. Jeff everybody's kind, of you,
know cleaning up after crossover day. Yesterday and the big
question here we are hearing, rumblings, tremors murmurs if you will, that,
uh there could be some movement on the budget. Today
we may even have a final budget that comes out
(47:02):
of The house And senate.
Speaker 10 (47:03):
TODAY.
Speaker 22 (47:04):
Tj, SO i think that's right because it comes down
to The governor's line item, veto and it comes down
to the, legislature specifically The house having the ability to
go back in and override anything in that line item
veto that they don't, Like so it becomes about budget AND.
Dave once that budget is, locked you may or may
not be able to get much more in if costs.
Speaker 21 (47:23):
Money so that could be the big story of the day, Here.
Jeff House Speaker Roger hanshaw is going to join us
coming up about ten thirty this. Morning we'll talk to
him About crossover day And Team West. Virginia that is
the kind of the crown jewel of this leg slave
session got out of The. House we'll see how it'll
fare over in The.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Senate you, guys that would be a, record is you,
know if they passed the. Budget, yeah if they passed the,
budget because now this this particular you, know if you
can go back eight or ten, years you, know this
kind of group of lawmakers in the last decade or
so have done a good job of getting the budget
done by the final. NIGHT i, mean there were years
THAT i covered the legislature and others that cover the
(48:01):
legislature that about this time or sometime during the last,
week there would be a proclamation that would extend the
session for three days to work on the. Budget that
was always a. Given you know they were going to
see what eventually, passed and then they were going to
work on the budget for the last three days and
then lawmakers would come back a week later The, sunday
after The sunday when the session, ended and then they
(48:23):
would pass a. Budget but this particular group of, lawmakers,
Again i'll say in the last decade or, so they've
done a good job of completing it before the session.
End but to get it and to get it signed
and lineed item vetoed before the session, ends that would
be a. Record but then lawmakers lose loose if they
want to overturn. Anything, obviously they lose their leverage after
(48:44):
the session is. Over so they if they want to
try to overturn the line out in, veto as you,
mentioned they got to get it into him his five
day clock would start and then they would get it
back before the regular session is.
Speaker 21 (48:54):
Over and we've talked about that a couple of different
times throughout this SESSION tj And jeff THAT i think
that's part of the, motivation maybe even the majority of
the motivation to get that thing done early in case
the governor uses that authority that you can come back
in and override.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Them Before siney die Next.
Speaker 22 (49:09):
Saturday power they've always, had but power they've never really. Exercised,
jeff to your, point be interesting to, see you, Know
Arch moore was a master if you go back to
only giving the legislature what they needed to get it
done by that sixty day. Mark if this happens and
the governor's line At veto gets, overright be interesting to
see if maybe he takes a page out of the
More Book mexico around and kind of drags his feet
(49:31):
a little bit.
Speaker 21 (49:31):
Too and as one delegate pointed out to us this, Morning,
jeff it's the only reason we're.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Here all the rest of it's just.
Speaker 5 (49:37):
Fluff.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Anyway that's the, budget.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yep that's their one constitutional duty is they have to
have a balanced. Budget that is very, true very. True,
Okay so we've got A handshaw coming up in a
couple of longmakers too on talk.
Speaker 21 (49:48):
Line, Right, Yeah Senator Brian helton AND tj are going
to arm wrestle to the show. Today we might get
an octagon later put them. In we're going to talk
About Senate bill four twenty that came out that requires
coal firepower plants to run at sixty nine percent capacity
all the. Time talk To Brian helton about That brattill
stop BY i mean nicely is going to join, Us.
(50:09):
Jeff there were some foster care bills that came out
of The. Senate there was a childcare bill that came
out of The house yesterday that's been years in the.
Making she's going to get us caught up on, those
and we'll try to work in a text or.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
Two we might Get Tom.
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Susman he's actually over here broadcasting from our friends AT.
Wmov might see If phil come over and to the
fat for a minute or. Two okay withness this morning as?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Well all, right sounds? Good ten oh six on radio
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The Metro news television App. Dave dave's got the big
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Say, here it's going to be a really good.
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Game, yeah it should. BE i should be a way
to end the regular.
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Speaker 2 (50:59):
That all, right guys have a great. Show appreciate, It.
Jeff all, right That's dave AND. Tj and they're coming
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