Dave Allen covers a busy morning in Charleston with a mix of local news, community impact, and personal reflections. BridgeValley Community and Technical College President Dr. Casey Sacks discusses her departure for a federal role, highlights programs like the Wynn Academy, and reflects on workforce development in West Virginia. The show also previews the West Virginia Outdoor Economy Summit with Charleston Area Alliance leaders and explores efforts to grow tourism and retain talent. Later, former Mayor Danny Jones shares memories of Jesse Jackson, while Fred Persinger and Dale Cooper reflect on the legacy of Capitol High football coach Roger Jefferson.
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Welcome to the show, Tuesday edition. Man, the fog out
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there this morning, very very foggy. Indeed, this morning a
few accidents were reported because of the fog that's burning away.
Though in Sunday and seventy five we're going to keep
saying it. Well, it's actually true in the Capital City.
Coming up on the show, the world, of course is morning.
The loss of Jesse Jackson. Former Charleston mayor Danny Jones
do him well and he's going to join us a
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little bit later on the show to talk about the
late Reverend Jackson. Also, the high school sports world is
morning this morning too, with the loss of the great
Capitol High football coach Roger Jefferson. We're going to talk
about that with the Voice of High School Sports in
West Virginia, Fred pur Singer. There is an outdoor economic
summit coming to the area. We're going to talk to
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to welcome to the show now our good friend, doctor
Casey Sachs of Bridge Valley Community and Technical College. Good morning,
and welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Good morning, Dave. Great to be with you today.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Great to have you here. We've had you on twice
a month for the last few years. I guess to
talk about all the good things going on at Bridge Valley,
but at little sad news this morning. Good news for you,
sad news for us. You're gonna be leaving your post
at Bridge Valley.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Hopefully good news for America. I'm going to the US
Department of Education, all.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Right, So you're gonna be leaving Bridge Valley. But as
you said, I couldn't said any better myself. Good news
for America because you're going corporate. You're going federal, I
should say, not corporate, you're going to federal. Would did
you come to Bridge Valley?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
So I've come to West Virginia twice to work in
higher education. The first time was in twenty sixteen where
I was with the West Virginia Higher Education Policy Commission,
and then I came back and they hired me at
Bridge Valley as the president in twenty one.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Okay, and what's You've done? So many great things you
and your entire administration at Bridge Valley. What's the one
or two things that you're probably most proud of?
Speaker 5 (03:22):
So I'm really proud of our nursing program. We have
the best community college nursing program in the state. Our
faculty are absolutely incredible. Our inclex pass rates are some
of the highest that you see even when you compare
us to four year colleges. We've got amazing business partnerships
with both CMC and Thomas W. Thomas Hospital through that program.
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I'm really proud of the nursing program. I think the
other is the Win Academy. It is such an incredible
opportunity for high school students to earn an associate's degree
while they're still in high school. There's nothing else like
it in West Virginia, and it is really special and
it's something that would be worth hidingplicating across the State, and.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
We're going to talk about the Win Academy coming up
here momentarily, and then I'll just say one thing about you.
You've been an absolute pleasure to work with. I mean,
you're so great at what you do. You're a natural
on the radio. And the area was certainly better in
the school at the Academic Institution of Bridge Valley was
certainly better for having you be a part of it.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
That's such high praise. Thank you very much, Dave. I
really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And talk quickly about this new role what you're going
to be doing. Then we'll move on to business.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I'll be the chief financial Officer at the Department of Education.
So it's really a large operational role there. Even with
some of the layoffs that have happened, we still have
two thousand employees at the US Department of Education, and
so my portfolio will include things like finance obviously, but
facilities and it and human resources and some of the
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really important functions that just help an organization that's that
big do its job.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
So when is your last day Bridge Valley going to be?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
March second?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Okay, all right, well, it's been a pleasure, as I said,
having you on the show a couple times a month
and getting to know you and to call your friend
and all that muschy stuff you're supposed to say. So
we'll move on. How's that.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I appreciate you too, Dave. Thank you very much. It's
been such a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Let's talk about the Wyn Academy, which you just did.
You've had some open house to get another one coming up?
What tomorrow night? I think we do.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Our next open house is tomorrow night at five point thirty.
It's been building two thousand in the atrium and it
should be I mean it's Our open houses are actually
really fun. We have a lot of current students who
give tours and who talk to families about what their
experience has been like. If you're a high school student
and you think, gosh, I'm really ready to get started
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with my career and to really take classes that apply
to what it is that I want to do with
my life, this is a great place for you. And
if you're an adult who thinks, gosh, I have a
high school student in my life and they might engage
more with school. They really cared about it and felt
like it was meaningful and could help them get a job,
this is the right place for your high school student.
We would just love to have you, and you should
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come to the open house tomorrow night at five thirty.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
And you're having this one tomorrow, and I what are
the others?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
So we have several open houses coming up that are
for the college in general, if you are even if
you're an adult. And I was just talking to our
student government president. She's a little bit older than I am.
She's had a career already, she's come back to school
to be a nurse. And when we were chatting, she said,
you know, when I came back to school, I was
a little worried because you think about college students as
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being right out of high school. And it's really important
to remind everybody who's listening that our average student is
thirty years old. And most of those thirty year olds, like,
they've already had a job, they've already had sometimes a career,
they've had children, they've had marriages, they've had divorces. I mean,
they've had life happen to them. Yeah, And so even
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if you're a person who's older than I am and
you think, gosh, I want to go back to school,
come back March thirty, first April seventh, April ninth, We
have open houses all those days. You're also just welcome
to come in. We would love to have you. But
sometimes open houses feel a little bit easier for people,
are more accessible. Not like you're just navigating it alone.
You've got fifty of your friends who are also coming
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to check it out.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Are you Are you good with me reading a text
for you that was sent It's a question about Bridge Valley.
Sure accurate sex for doctor Sachs. West Virginia seems to
always follow other stints blueprints. What what's one successful project
that you've had at Bridge Valley that you would pose
as a model to the Department of Education.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
So actually I was speaking at a national conference, well
an international conference recently about some of the cool things
that we do at Bridge Valley. And one thing that
the Department of Education has been interested in and that
I actually got invited to the White House to speak about,
is how we do shared services here that other states
and other especially small colleges and rural communities are trying
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to figure out how do we share resources and it's
something that we've done incredibly well at Bridge Valley. We
share a financial aid director with two other schools. We
share a chief information officer and it lead with another school.
We're sharing a cybersecurity specialist with all of the other
community colleges, and so we're really trying to find ways.
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Every time we have a vacancy, the presidents call each
other and say, do you have somebody who could take
on another school before we try and just fill that role.
And the efficiency that comes with that and the really
intentionality of the community colleges working together is a national
model and really worth replicating in many other places.
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doctor Sachs has been cybersecurity. Bridge Rowley just picked up
a big grant for the cybersecurity program, right we did so.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Our Chief Information officer, our CIO, recently received a fifty
three thousand dollars grant. It's a state grant and it's
through an organization called SISSA. They give out dollars to
the state and then the state decides what state agencies
are in need. And so we had written it gosh
almost a year ago. So sometimes these things take a while,
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but it's they're really worth doing. It means we'll be
able to We use a few different software platforms to
help make sure traffic that comes in is safe. We
use a few different tools to make sure we have
multiple redundancies, so something that's important as you want a
backup in more than one place just in case something
to Heaven forbid, but in case something happens. So it's
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really coming up with what are our strategies around cybersecurity
and then how do you implement them. And our college
is unique that we actually have a five year strategic
plan specifically around cybersecurity to think through what are our
needs going to be over the next several years. And
our board has been really proactive in thinking about how
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do we go after funds that are going to support
those projects because we just really recognize that it will
only increase in importance.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
You told me you had a video project you were
working on. Talk about that.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Oh yeah, so hopefully you saw it. I know I
sent it to you.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I did, but I want you to explain it to everybody.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Okay. So there is a group called Stand Together that
reached out to us, I don't know about six months
ago and said, we are really interested in making the
video to help amplify the good work that's happening at
the Win Academy. So do you have a student who
would be interested in being featured in the video, and
we want to help tell your story. So they sent
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us out a whole videography team. They followed one of
our students. They followed Caiden in the morning while he
got ready for work, and then went to the hospital
to go to work. And it turned out really great.
Please check out the Bridge Valley Facebook page. It's posted there,
It's posted on LinkedIn, It's on several several social platforms.
Now there's a YouTube channel, but I don't have that
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one memorized. But the video essentially follows Cayden and just
talks about how incredible his journey has been, and that
he's going to the Wind Academy, or that he went
to the Wind Academy and he graduated and now he
works at WVU Medicine Thomas Hospital, and we're just so
proud of him and so proud of what he represents,
but so proud of all of our students who are
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able to accomplish exactly the same thing. While he's special,
they're they're all special, and they every single one of
our students is capable of doing this and capable of
getting a really great job in the community.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
As I said, doctor Sachs, a bittersweet you leaving, but
I know you're going to do great things, uh in
your in your new role. We wish you the best.
We get a pleasure to get to know you and
talk about all the good things at Bridge Valley, and
I'm I'm sure of it that our relationship here at
the Statonwood Bridge Valley will continue. So we wish you
the best and your future endeavors, and don't forget about us.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Okay, But I never could thank you so much, David.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It's such a pleasure, all right. Doctor Casey Sachs, a
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Danny Jones is going to join us a little bit
later on to talk about the legacy of Jesse Jackson,
who passed away during the over night hours last night.
He knew Jesse Jackson, so he's going to join us. Also,
Fred Pursinger and Dale Cooper will join us to talk
about another pass with Roger Jefferson, longtime Capitol High football
coach who has passed away as well. We got a
whole studio full of people here and with us right now.
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We got to mar Boggs and Susan Salisbury from the
Charleston area lines. Thank you both for being here today.
Good morninging. You guys did that great. Can you think
you could do that again?
Speaker 8 (16:01):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Record that that'll be my greeting every morning. Also, we
had Danny Twilley with us, and this, Danny, here's your title,
Assistant vice president Economic and Community Development of the brad
and the Leish Smith Outdoor Economic Development Collaborative. That's a mouthful,
is that on a business card? And just care around
poster paper. We appreciate you being here. Thanks today as well.
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Now there is going to be and I'll let you
guys just kind of jump in here. There is going
to be an outdoor Economic summit held, talk about it
and then we'll break it down specifically.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (16:34):
So, starting this evening all the way through Thursday, we're
hosting the first annual West Virginia Outdoor Economy Summit, where
we're bringing uh, you know, anywhere from tourism, economic development,
nonprofit leaders, land managers, all those who care and love
the great outdoors of West Virginia. We're bringing them all
together here for the next few days to kind of
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uh celebrate, elevate, and collaborate.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
That's a lot of aiding there. I like the alliteration there.
So what's what's your guys role in this with the
with the CVB and the Alliance and so on and
so forth.
Speaker 12 (17:10):
Sure, well, we were just so excited about the summit.
It's really shows off the best of West Virginia because
you were were taking the outdoor economy and finding new
opportunities for the state and existing opportunities, and so the
Alliance collaborated with Danny and OEDC to help put this on.
I mean, it's it's his show. But we're just really
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proud to be a part of it, especially with Susie's
work in the Upper Canal Valley. We thought this would
be a great thing to highlight at the beginning of
a week before the summit, and we're thankful you had
us on today.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
And I mean the whole world of the outdoors. I
mean West Virginia is an outdoor space as state. I mean,
people come from all over America, but a lot of
times West Virginians we forget what we have in our
own backyard, no pun intended. And I'm not hoping that
this is something that will come out of this summit.
Today's people here will realize we have here.
Speaker 11 (18:01):
Yeah, I think that's one of the most important things. Right,
you know, we know that our outdoors attracts people from
you know, around the country and around the world.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Right.
Speaker 11 (18:08):
Secretary Ruby has done a great job over nine billion
dollars in tourism spending. But we also need to make
sure that our citizens can make sure that they have
access to the great outdoors and recognize it is one
of the critical components for our history and it integrates
into our quality of life that we have here in
West Virginia and as you said, sometimes because it's so
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close to us and we're so used to it, we
sometimes forget how special it is. But it is truly
some of the best outdoor recreation in the country. We
have some of the highest density of basically whitewater rivers
in the entire country, out more than North Carolina and
more than Civic Northwest. From a mid Atlantic East close
climbing standpoint, we have some of the highest concentration some
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of the best rock climbing in the entire East East
coast and the country we can compete in. We have
some great access to trails, from our rail trails, to
our water trails, to our mountain bike trails, to some
of our scenic overlooks. So we really do. And let's
not forget about the Hatfield McCoy and what they've done
and the great work that they've done down there and
particularly in the southern part of the state. And then
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you throw in our wonderful rivers for fishing. We really
do have it all right here in West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Now, who are you hoping or who's going to be
coming to this summits at the Coliseum.
Speaker 11 (19:22):
Yeah, like I said, we will have people from this
you know, various cvbs will have economic development professionals, will
have land managers, will have other nonprofit leaders. It is
a really incredible mix of people. And I think I
can say here is I'm so excited that we have
sold out the first conference with over three hundred and
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fifty people coming to attend's.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And that's what makes people at your groups like yours
happy is when he said people coming in.
Speaker 12 (19:51):
Right, right, And really it's turning those challenges into opportunities
what we did with a send and the OEDC and Danny,
the and County are are great partners in this, but
it's it's attracting people to our outdoor space, Appalachian Outlaw Trails,
SUSI has done a ton of work in the Upper
Canal Valley. Just wanted to mention them too. I think
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they'll be there.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Right, they will their sponsor yeah as well, and you
mentioned the ASSINN program. You're with the a SIN program
as well. Right, Absolutely to talk about that. Explain for
those it's because it's kind of been you know, it's
in the news really big. I haven't heard a lot
about it in a while, So explain how that's going
and what exactly it is Yeah.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
So one of the things that we recognize is that
population loss and brain train is one of the biggest
challenges facing West Virginia. And so we with the support
of WVU and brad Nelle Smith through the Winged Wing Foundation,
and the State of West Virginia, we all came together,
and particularly here in Charleston with the Charleston Area Alliance
and so many of our great partners came together and said,
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how do we take a challenge and turn it into
an opportunity. So what we do is we utilize community
purpose and the outdoors. So we look for people who
want to build be part of a community and build community.
We want people who want to come here and help
make us better. And then we utilize the outdoors to
attract people here and then retain people here through a
program called First Descent, which is helping keep our graduating
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students from WVU and Marshall in the state of West
Virginia when they graduate, and in doing so it helped
can help reverse that population loss in that brain drain.
And so the program is just we've had over seventy
eight thousand applications for the program.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Seventy eight thousand seventy eight seventy eight thousand. I just
want to make sure everybody took that into seventy eight thousand.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Of thelation of Charleston.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah more, Yeah, seventy eight thousand people have said, this
is where I want to be.
Speaker 12 (21:42):
We got some big announcements coming up soon for the
Charleston area too.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
It's amazing.
Speaker 10 (21:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, when can we expec those announcements. You don't have
to tell us now, but can in the coming weeks,
the coming way, in the coming weeks. All right, So
let's get back to the summit again. Go over the hours,
the time times. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (22:01):
So we'll be kicking off tonight around six o'clock for
just a kind of a award ceremony.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
Welcome.
Speaker 11 (22:07):
Tomorrow morning at eight thirty, we'll be kicking off and
it'll go all the way through five. We'll have a
great celebration at the Capital Market tomorrow and then with
our partners, the Nature Conservancy, we're doing a day at
the Capital on Thursday as well. And I'd be remiss
if I didn't just say to every single one of
our sponsors, thanks for believing in us, thanks for investing
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in us, and thanks for your support.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
And again I didn't understand that you guys are going
to be at the capital, as you just said. So
I'll be excigning because you get legislature in town, you
get to you get to educate them, just like you're
educating the listeners. They've got the great things going on here.
Is there a spot online, website, social media that you
got that people can learn more about this?
Speaker 11 (22:47):
Yeah, West Virginia Outdoor Economy Summit. Just take a look.
Type it into Google and it will pop right up.
You should be the very first one. The team's worked
really hard to make sure that it shows up first.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And while we've got you two here, Mara and Susie. Uh,
What's what's going on with the Alliance these days? Anything
that you want to push besides this?
Speaker 12 (23:06):
First of all, a send that's that's a big project.
Our lift center is under construction. We just picked the
colors for the metal skin and roof on Friday. Susie's
got a lot going on in the outdoor economy, wrapping
up an ARC grant right now.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
We are doing a lot of planning in the Eppercinal Valley, Trails,
riverfront development, business development. It's been pretty exciting and we're
hoping to pull together like a progress report at the
end of this, so it couldn't be happy to come
back on.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Absolutely, you know you're always WelCom I mean, we talk
to you a lot about window decorating and so during
Christmas and is going to kick off again? And when
does that kick off?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
We're going to open up registration within probably the next week.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Okay, all right, And I think with the winter that
we've had, I think everybody is thinking about outdoors. Yes,
outdoors that is not involving risking your life walking to
your mailbox. You know that's I think everybody wants to
get outdoors. So guys, I appreciate everybody being here. Danny
Twilley again, Assistant Vice President for Economic and Community Development
of the brad and Elise Smith Outdoor Economic Development Collaborative,
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and Susie Sawsby and Mara Box. You guys gonna have
to get long titles like that. I appreciate it. Appreciate
everybody for being here, hanging out with me. Here just
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lot of games, who knew Roger very well. Coach Jefferson
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Speaker 8 (27:56):
Oh good. That's always nice to be on show and
be able to hear my voice.
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Speaker 8 (28:12):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
So all right. News broke overnight about the passing of
Jesse Jackson, the Reverend doctor Jesse Jackson. We're gonna spend
some time talking about it on Metro News Midday to
Day with two different guests. I'll tell you about that
a little bit later on. One of the first things I
saw I got up this morning, Danny, and I turned
on the television and I saw where it was coming
across the screen, and then got my phone with the
(28:34):
social media and the first thing, because you know, phones
know what you're thinking. The first thing, the first thing
I saw was a picture of you that you posted
of you and Bliet Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
That was two thousand and four. Okay, I've been mayor
a year. That was during the regatta, and somebody asked
me if I would squire him around. It may have
been the trades Unions. I can't remember who it was
that's who sponsored his trip here. And were you mayor
(29:08):
at that time?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yes, okay, you're maya.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
And we I've been mayor by the year and we
we hung hung together with him and his group, and
I can tell you a few stories. You know, what
do they call those things you get? Elephant ears? Yeah,
he ate two of them really, and his people the pastries. Yeah,
(29:33):
his people around around him pulled at me, said.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Get him away from everybody's got to have handlers.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
Well, they were trying to get him not to eat
so much, and I think he didn't want to eat
so much. But but he walked through the crowd and
we walked down through the uh down down the road
down to where the where the shown bomb stages.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
Now.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
We walked down that road. There was some real big
heavy guy that was laying It looked like he was
laying drunk, and he was laying down. He had his
arm hanging over the steps and everything. Jesse's got the
biggest shick out of that. You know, he laughed, but
not enough to offer him one of his elephant ears. Right, No,
(30:26):
but he watched the fireworks. Now, the one thing you
need to realize about Jesse Jackson is you can ask
him about your family, about his family. He's not going
to ask you about yours. I mean, well, Jesse's for Jetsey.
(30:47):
He talked about himself. He's he was. He drew a
lot of attention, and a lot of people thought it
was kind of neat to see him and just wall
come around saying hello. Despite all the stories about what
he did when he was young as a waiter, nobody's
(31:07):
going to tell me he didn't like white people. Because
the next day he was with all those union folks
and they were going to a rallying. He was trying
to get me to come, and I wouldn't. I would
I wouldn't come.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Was he a pretty nice guy though? Oh?
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Very much? Okay, yeah, very much.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Glad to hear that, because they always say you know that,
every every and here's the thing, and I've met a
lot of celebrities of my time as of you. Sometimes
people say, well, this guy or this person, they were
a terrible person, they were rude. Whatever. You got to
remember that when you encounter people you only see him
on one day, Yeah, and you don't know what's going
on in their personal life or their business or their
family or whatever. It maybe has them in a foul mood.
(31:45):
But the majority of the VIPs that I've met over
the years, political athletes, singers, actors, whatever, majority of him
have been pretty cool people. And I talked to some
people that knew Reverend jack not like they were best
friends or anything, but but they all said he was
such a pretty nice guy behind the scenes.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
You never met Paul Anka.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
No, I've never met Paul Anka.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
I'm glad I didn't. He played up at uh Waterford
up at Chester and he was nice to the to
the crowd, but to the people that worked there, he
was completely nasty.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
There are a lot of stories, yeah like that. There
are a lot of stories.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
In eighty eight, when I was sheriff, Reverend Jackson was
running for president and they gave him double secret service and.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
He ran twice. He ran eighty eight and eighty eight, okay,
and he was up.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
The airport and he had double secret service. Protection cost
forty grand a day. Michael Dicaccas turned down protection. He
didn't have any So when he came here, he got
us State police didn't want him. The city didn't have
(33:08):
the jurisdiction, so he got the sheriff's department. So one
day on that on my Facebook, if I outlive him,
I've got pictures all put up myself and Governor Michael
Ducaucus because we were with him, and he actually wasn't
down in the coal mines.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I remember that.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
So, but.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Reverend Jackson was a really nice guy and he liked people.
And Willie Nelson was there.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I remember. I wasn't in Charleston, but I do remember
this now.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
The one thing. Two things I remember about him, Willie, Yeah,
I just listen to him talk. I didn't talk to him.
He likes ethanol and he hates Republicans.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
He's very liberal. Yeah, very liberal. I'm going to tell
some stories a little bit later today. Danny on Metro
News Midday. When Jesse Jackson was campaigning for president, he
came for a rally in Logan and I was in
I was in junior high then. That's how you know
you're old when you call it junior high, not middle school.
I was in Logan East Junior High in nineteen eighty four,
when he was running for president the primary and he
(34:22):
came to he spent the night in Logan and at
a place called Mudfork. And I'm going to tell the
story later today on Metro News Midday. How monumental that
that was for Jesse Jackson to spend the night in Mudfork.
I don't want to spoil it, but on the show
later today, we're going to have on Metro News Miday,
(34:42):
We're going to talk to Matthew Watts about his memories
of Jesse Jackson. But I'm also going to talk to
and he's a frequent guest of the show, Burke Allen,
who is the guy that got me into all, you know,
the radio business whatever. Burke's on the show from time
to time. Burke was a high school order for the
Here's How Logan High newspaper. It was called Here's That
(35:04):
still it's called Here's How. And he got an interview
with Jesse Jackson was junior in high school and he
got to set down one on one interview with Jesse Jackson,
which was picked up by the New York Times.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
I can see him doing that, yeah, And I can
see him some young person walking up to him with
a pen pen and pad and their wind or just
a pen and pad? Do you mind a fascis some questions?
I bet he'd sit right down.
Speaker 10 (35:30):
He did.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
He actually chose and Burkell tell the story. He actually
chose Burke over a lot of other people that wanted
interviews because he thought he liked the the neatness of
that of just talking to a I guess what have
been a high school junior at the time.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
When he was he was involved with doctor King and
he was on the stoop yep of at the Lorraine
Motel when doctor King was shot in the neck and
he and oh, I don't know Abernathy and maybe was
Andrew Young, I don't know who it was. And they
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were pointing where it came from.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I've seen that, Yeah, very iconic picture.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
They were appointing. They were pointing at where it you know,
where it came from.
Speaker 9 (36:13):
And he.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
He was considered I mean, I read everything and get
my hands on in and when I was in the service,
that's all I did. And he was considered a little
bit of a lightweight. He ran for mayor against uh
mayor Daily in Chicago, and that didn't go over very well.
And then all of a sudden he just started surging,
(36:43):
and I think it really manifested itself when he ran
for president in eighty four. I think it really is
when things really kicked in for him.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
He had a lot of health issues and it was
a neurological disease. Is I guess what the official cause
of death. He's been out of the public eye for
some time, and I know his offspring and his people
in his organization continuing to do a lot of his
work and stuff, but he was just I guess, you know,
my memories as a younger person, well relatively speaking of
(37:17):
Jesse Jackson, was it seemed like at one point, whenever
there was a hot button, and I'm I'm just being
truthful here, Danny, when there was a hot button, you know,
issue pretending to race, that you would we would see,
not always together, but you'd see Jesse Jackson and Al
Sharpton there. Al Sharpton continues to do some of that,
although with his health issues and his age, not as
(37:38):
much as he as he used to. But Jesse was
always he was always there. I just remember Jesse Jackson
being on television a whole lot when I was a
kid growing up in the seventies and eighties, and I don't.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
I don't watch him as NBC too much, so I don't.
I think he's Sharpton still got to show there.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I think he does.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
Yeah, he came here when there was a less a
rate down in Mingo County or somewhere, and of this
young black girl who the prosecutor down there told me,
if they hadn't played guilty, I had no case. But
(38:18):
he got him to plead guilty. He had no case.
And Malik Shabaz came here. You know, Oh, he trashed
me big time. What do you say, Oh, I can't
remember Jerry. At one time, Jerry had posted on Facebook
(38:39):
it was but he really trashed me. And he didn't
have any reason to because the first thing, it wasn't
in this county and I didn't know anything about it.
And then the young then Sharpton came down and he
spoke over at first Baptist and to rally for the
(39:02):
young lady, and he gave them some money and her
mother took it, took the money and bought dope with it.
And the girl called back to my office a few
months later or wanting us to do something for it,
and we were we couldn't help.
Speaker 9 (39:19):
Her, and.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
But Malicia Boz really maligu Zu Lusha Baz. I remember
when he ran for city council and he got beat
by a white gay Republican, all of which he hates.
You know, he's amped out all three of those. And
(39:45):
but he spent a lot of time strutting around here,
and he did it in this studio. Hoppy was was
he and Hoppy got into arguments.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
So what do you think the old We're all legacy
Jesse Jackson will be? Because, as I said, he's been
out of the public eye for some time because of
his health issues. But what do you think that legacy
of Jesse Jackson will be, Denny?
Speaker 8 (40:11):
I think it'll be a blend of SCLC trying to
get people in movie theaters in the South when they
when they they couldn't get in. There's actually a video
of him trying to buy movie tickets in a movie
theater for a whole line of black folks and they
(40:31):
wouldn't let him in. Hey, well, I mean he's just
sitting there talking to the guy, why why won't you
We have money here? Our money's good. We'd like to
see the movie. I think that obviously it would be
in civil rights and can Operation Push, which probably did
(40:51):
more in the neighborhood in Chicago than it did anywhere else.
And Chicago needs help, and I think I think that
would be the legacy.
Speaker 9 (41:07):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
He's always a pleasure have you on the show two
days in a row. We'll talk to you next Monday.
How's that?
Speaker 8 (41:12):
What a deal?
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the Kanaw Valley lost a true true icon with the
passing a former Capitol High coach, Roger Jefferson. Fred Pur
singers the voice of high school sports in West Virginia.
He joins us the morning, sir.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Good morning. I'm very very honored. I don't think I've
ever shared a studio with Dale Cooper.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
You're talking about football star extraordinary, but Roger Jefferson. Yeah,
that's that's obviously a joke, but it is a honor
to uh to a star that I wasn't play.
Speaker 8 (45:49):
So there you go.
Speaker 18 (45:50):
I have the unique, UH, I have the unique perspective
of having observed coach Jail on the sidelines for years,
you know, instead of from the field.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
So yeah, that's I guess that's my perspective on it.
Speaker 8 (45:59):
Eight.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Bred talk about the first time you met Roger Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
The first time I did. Of course, I think most
people know. I did Beckley football and basketball for a
long time, and during those years that Roger was the
head coach at Capitol, that was my first association with him.
He became the head coach back in nineteen eighty nine
and was only there for eight seasons, but every year
Beckley would play Capital. So the one thing you always
(46:26):
knew about Roger Jefferson he was going to have his
teams prepared and they were going to be mean in
a good way, in a football way. One of his idols,
and you probably know this, one of his idols, Lee
On McCoy. Leon McCoy was one of the greatest coaches ever.
But I put Roger Jefferson certainly in Well for only
(46:46):
eight seasons, but I still was putting definitely in the
top ten of high school football coaches in the state.
You know, Roger, Roger was mostly a wrestling guy. You know,
he did play football at Marshall, but he was he's
in fact, he was inducted in to the National Wrestling
Hall of Fame, So I mean he was. But Roger
was the kind of guy that, as I was telling
(47:07):
you earlier this morning, Dave, no matter where I would
see Roger after he left Capital, after he retired, he
would always stop and say, Hey, Fred, how's it going man.
You know, off the field, he was as genuine as
anyone I've ever known. On the field, he just wanted
to beat you, and his teams were good. He won
three state championships during those eight seasons. Ninety five was
(47:30):
his last one. That he quit in ninety six after
the ninety six season. But yeah, and Dale, you were around.
Speaker 18 (47:36):
Him, you know, Yeah, Honestly, there's a lot of things
about Roger that although although I wasn't a top one
player at all, but what you said about playing hard
and mean but in a good way is it is
because there's a difference between and I've played under some
different coaches on different things, and there's a difference between
coaches that tell you to get out there and hurt somebody.
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Get out there and you want to make it their
worst day. You know, you have guys that motivate you
that way. Jefferson's was much more internalized on that. He
wanted you to work very hard and he wanted you
to be as best as you could possibly be within
the confines of his system. His system was not complicated.
He called the counter trade the Redskins countertrade that he ran.
It was he called it joker, So it was Joker left,
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Joker right. That was ninety percent of the playbook. There
was not no cher he ran other than that. You'd
have a dive off of the center one way or
the other if you needed the short yardage. You might
have a couple of misdirection play but the bread and
butter of that playbook was Joker left Joker right, and
you practiced it, and he would give you oculades and
practice if you did well. If you didn't, then you
got called on it. And there was things from a
(48:40):
discipline standpoint that I don't even know where football and
coaches is today. But like the running the gassers at
the end of the of practice until you're basically throwing up,
and frankly, for us beggar guys, he would highlight us
and we would have to do certain athletic feats, and
if we failed doing that, that would mean that everybody
would have to run like he would kind of put us.
And I think that today that maybe that would be
(49:02):
frowned upon a little bit. But you know what, it
was done from such a perspective that it didn't feel
like anything except for trying to be better at what
you were doing. And I never felt that there was
anything other than that there. And although I was not
a good football player, I felt like playing on that
team for as many years as I did. Really, I mean,
my desire for loving defensive football and running the football
comes from my time at Capitol.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
And while he kept his offenses day as dall As
saying simples, his bread and butter was his defense, and
his defense particularly he played that middle linebacker and one
of the plays I know that he used against Beckley
was first play on defense. The middle linebacker jumped off
off sides and hit the at the time he could
(49:47):
play over the center. He would hit that center. I
remember hitting Beckley center when you're knocking him five yards back,
and the guy that was doing color for me, he said, oh,
that was a mistake, and I said, no, no, not
a mistake. He just set the tone because he wanted
you to play tough.
Speaker 18 (50:03):
If I'm not mistaken, Fred, you would probably know this
better than me from an observer standpoint. But I think
he did the same thing with Todd Robinson. Robins Tod Robinson,
but he would blow up that center sometimes drop offside,
and he was the strongest, fastest guy on the field,
and he would send shivers down your spine.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
One of the better linebackers in high school. I can
never remember Todd Robinson. He put Buckley center well five yards.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Behind the lines in the concession stands.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
Time to go home.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
That's what you know. I was talking to Speedy Bevans
earlier in the morning, and Speedy and I were talking
about Roger Jefferson, and he was talking about as a broadcaster,
when Speedy and the late Bob Weisner would come up
to call Logan and Capital games. He said, you know
that about how how gracious that the coach was to them.
(50:49):
But as Speedy said in that speedy style. He said, well,
you know, you don't have a lot of stress when
you're up fifty to nothing at the half, as they
normally were over Logan, you know, back in the day.
So you know you're gonna be in a better mood
about But he talked about it wasn't alone though, Well yeah,
but you but but he that goes along kind of
Fred with what you said about how just generally And
I didn't know the gentleman at all, just knew what
I read what I heard on the radio that what
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a genuine, just a good person he was.
Speaker 15 (51:13):
He was.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
He was indeed, uh love his wife Carol, these two daughters,
had three grandchildren. I mean, just one of those guys
that you know you didn't like him because he wasn't
your head coach, you know, right, I mean he and
you know, I think for just eight seasons is all
he was there at Capitol.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
What do you do after he retired? What did you do, Premier?
What kept him? The lost track? I lost track?
Speaker 4 (51:35):
Yeah, sure I would see him, you know, like I said,
State tournament and basketball, I would see him, But I
lost track after football, and like you know, I kept
on him. I was at Backley still six years after
that after he left.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
So, guys, I appreciate both of you for jumping in
here today. Fred the voice of high school sports in
West Virginia and longtime Capitol high standout. He was standing
standing out by the bench. But hey, like I said,
you played the game. I didn't. So you were hey
one up on me. You were a member of the team,
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Casey Sachs of Bridge Valley Community and Technical College. Good morning,
and welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Good morning, Dave. Great to be with you today.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Great to have you here. We've had you on twice
a month for the last few years. I guess to
talk about all the good things going on at Bridge Valley,
but at little sad news this morning. Good news for you,
sad news for us. You're gonna be leaving your post
at Bridge Valley.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Hopefully good news for America. I'm going to the US
Department of Education, all.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Right, So you're gonna be leaving Bridge Valley. But as
you said, I couldn't said any better myself. Good news
for America because you're going corporate. You're going federal, I
should say, not corporate, you're going to federal. Would did
you come to Bridge Valley?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
So I've come to West Virginia twice to work in
higher education. The first time was in twenty sixteen where
I was with the West Virginia Higher Education Policy Commission,
and then I came back and they hired me at
Bridge Valley as the president in twenty one.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Okay, and what's You've done? So many great things you
and your entire administration at Bridge Valley. What's the one
or two things that you're probably most proud of?
Speaker 5 (03:22):
So I'm really proud of our nursing program. We have
the best community college nursing program in the state. Our
faculty are absolutely incredible. Our inclex pass rates are some
of the highest that you see even when you compare
us to four year colleges. We've got amazing business partnerships
with both CMC and Thomas W. Thomas Hospital through that program.
(03:44):
I'm really proud of the nursing program. I think the
other is the Win Academy. It is such an incredible
opportunity for high school students to earn an associate's degree
while they're still in high school. There's nothing else like
it in West Virginia, and it is really special and
it's something that would be worth hidingplicating across the State, and.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
We're going to talk about the Win Academy coming up
here momentarily, and then I'll just say one thing about you.
You've been an absolute pleasure to work with. I mean,
you're so great at what you do. You're a natural
on the radio. And the area was certainly better in
the school at the Academic Institution of Bridge Valley was
certainly better for having you be a part of it.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
That's such high praise. Thank you very much, Dave. I
really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And talk quickly about this new role what you're going
to be doing. Then we'll move on to business.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I'll be the chief financial Officer at the Department of Education.
So it's really a large operational role there. Even with
some of the layoffs that have happened, we still have
two thousand employees at the US Department of Education, and
so my portfolio will include things like finance obviously, but
facilities and it and human resources and some of the
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really important functions that just help an organization that's that
big do its job.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
So when is your last day Bridge Valley going to be?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
March second?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Okay, all right, well, it's been a pleasure, as I said,
having you on the show a couple times a month
and getting to know you and to call your friend
and all that muschy stuff you're supposed to say. So
we'll move on. How's that.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I appreciate you too, Dave. Thank you very much. It's
been such a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Let's talk about the Wyn Academy, which you just did.
You've had some open house to get another one coming up?
What tomorrow night? I think we do.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Our next open house is tomorrow night at five point thirty.
It's been building two thousand in the atrium and it
should be I mean it's Our open houses are actually
really fun. We have a lot of current students who
give tours and who talk to families about what their
experience has been like. If you're a high school student
and you think, gosh, I'm really ready to get started
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with my career and to really take classes that apply
to what it is that I want to do with
my life, this is a great place for you. And
if you're an adult who thinks, gosh, I have a
high school student in my life and they might engage
more with school. They really cared about it and felt
like it was meaningful and could help them get a job,
this is the right place for your high school student.
We would just love to have you, and you should
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come to the open house tomorrow night at five thirty.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
And you're having this one tomorrow, and I what are
the others?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
So we have several open houses coming up that are
for the college in general, if you are even if
you're an adult. And I was just talking to our
student government president. She's a little bit older than I am.
She's had a career already, she's come back to school
to be a nurse. And when we were chatting, she said,
you know, when I came back to school, I was
a little worried because you think about college students as
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being right out of high school. And it's really important
to remind everybody who's listening that our average student is
thirty years old. And most of those thirty year olds, like,
they've already had a job, they've already had sometimes a career,
they've had children, they've had marriages, they've had divorces. I mean,
they've had life happen to them. Yeah, And so even
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if you're a person who's older than I am and
you think, gosh, I want to go back to school,
come back March thirty, first April seventh, April ninth, We
have open houses all those days. You're also just welcome
to come in. We would love to have you. But
sometimes open houses feel a little bit easier for people,
are more accessible. Not like you're just navigating it alone.
You've got fifty of your friends who are also coming
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to check it out.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Are you Are you good with me reading a text
for you that was sent It's a question about Bridge Valley.
Sure accurate sex for doctor Sachs. West Virginia seems to
always follow other stints blueprints. What what's one successful project
that you've had at Bridge Valley that you would pose
as a model to the Department of Education.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
So actually I was speaking at a national conference, well
an international conference recently about some of the cool things
that we do at Bridge Valley. And one thing that
the Department of Education has been interested in and that
I actually got invited to the White House to speak about,
is how we do shared services here that other states
and other especially small colleges and rural communities are trying
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to figure out how do we share resources and it's
something that we've done incredibly well at Bridge Valley. We
share a financial aid director with two other schools. We
share a chief information officer and it lead with another school.
We're sharing a cybersecurity specialist with all of the other
community colleges, and so we're really trying to find ways.
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Every time we have a vacancy, the presidents call each
other and say, do you have somebody who could take
on another school before we try and just fill that role.
And the efficiency that comes with that and the really
intentionality of the community colleges working together is a national
model and really worth replicating in many other places.
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Speaker 5 (09:15):
Our Chief Information officer, our CIO, recently received a fifty
three thousand dollars grant. It's a state grant and it's
through an organization called SISSA. They give out dollars to
the state and then the state decides what state agencies
are in need. And so we had written it gosh
almost a year ago. So sometimes these things take a while,
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but it's they're really worth doing. It means we'll be
able to We use a few different software platforms to
help make sure traffic that comes in is safe. We
use a few different tools to make sure we have
multiple redundancies, so something that's important as you want a
backup in more than one place just in case something
to Heaven forbid, but in case something happens. So it's
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really coming up with what are our strategies around cybersecurity
and then how do you implement them. And our college
is unique that we actually have a five year strategic
plan specifically around cybersecurity to think through what are our
needs going to be over the next several years. And
our board has been really proactive in thinking about how
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do we go after funds that are going to support
those projects because we just really recognize that it will
only increase in importance.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
You told me you had a video project you were
working on. Talk about that.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Oh yeah, so hopefully you saw it. I know I
sent it to you.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I did, but I want you to explain it to everybody.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Okay. So there is a group called Stand Together that
reached out to us, I don't know about six months
ago and said, we are really interested in making the
video to help amplify the good work that's happening at
the Win Academy. So do you have a student who
would be interested in being featured in the video, and
we want to help tell your story. So they sent
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us out a whole videography team. They followed one of
our students. They followed Caiden in the morning while he
got ready for work, and then went to the hospital
to go to work. And it turned out really great.
Please check out the Bridge Valley Facebook page. It's posted there,
It's posted on LinkedIn, It's on several several social platforms.
Now there's a YouTube channel, but I don't have that
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one memorized. But the video essentially follows Cayden and just
talks about how incredible his journey has been, and that
he's going to the Wind Academy, or that he went
to the Wind Academy and he graduated and now he
works at WVU Medicine Thomas Hospital, and we're just so
proud of him and so proud of what he represents,
but so proud of all of our students who are
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able to accomplish exactly the same thing. While he's special,
they're they're all special, and they every single one of
our students is capable of doing this and capable of
getting a really great job in the community.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
As I said, doctor Sachs, a bittersweet you leaving, but
I know you're going to do great things, uh in
your in your new role. We wish you the best.
We get a pleasure to get to know you and
talk about all the good things at Bridge Valley, and
I'm I'm sure of it that our relationship here at
the Statonwood Bridge Valley will continue. So we wish you
the best and your future endeavors, and don't forget about us.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Okay, But I never could thank you so much, David.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It's such a pleasure, all right. Doctor Casey Sachs, a
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Danny Jones is going to join us a little bit
later on to talk about the legacy of Jesse Jackson,
who passed away during the over night hours last night.
He knew Jesse Jackson, so he's going to join us. Also,
Fred Pursinger and Dale Cooper will join us to talk
about another pass with Roger Jefferson, longtime Capitol High football
coach who has passed away as well. We got a
whole studio full of people here and with us right now.
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We got to mar Boggs and Susan Salisbury from the
Charleston area lines. Thank you both for being here today.
Good morninging. You guys did that great. Can you think
you could do that again?
Speaker 8 (16:01):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Record that that'll be my greeting every morning. Also, we
had Danny Twilley with us, and this, Danny, here's your title,
Assistant vice president Economic and Community Development of the brad
and the Leish Smith Outdoor Economic Development Collaborative. That's a mouthful,
is that on a business card? And just care around
poster paper. We appreciate you being here. Thanks today as well.
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Now there is going to be and I'll let you
guys just kind of jump in here. There is going
to be an outdoor Economic summit held, talk about it
and then we'll break it down specifically.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (16:34):
So, starting this evening all the way through Thursday, we're
hosting the first annual West Virginia Outdoor Economy Summit, where
we're bringing uh, you know, anywhere from tourism, economic development,
nonprofit leaders, land managers, all those who care and love
the great outdoors of West Virginia. We're bringing them all
together here for the next few days to kind of
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uh celebrate, elevate, and collaborate.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
That's a lot of aiding there. I like the alliteration there.
So what's what's your guys role in this with the
with the CVB and the Alliance and so on and
so forth.
Speaker 12 (17:10):
Sure, well, we were just so excited about the summit.
It's really shows off the best of West Virginia because
you were were taking the outdoor economy and finding new
opportunities for the state and existing opportunities, and so the
Alliance collaborated with Danny and OEDC to help put this on.
I mean, it's it's his show. But we're just really
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proud to be a part of it, especially with Susie's
work in the Upper Canal Valley. We thought this would
be a great thing to highlight at the beginning of
a week before the summit, and we're thankful you had
us on today.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
And I mean the whole world of the outdoors. I
mean West Virginia is an outdoor space as state. I mean,
people come from all over America, but a lot of
times West Virginians we forget what we have in our
own backyard, no pun intended. And I'm not hoping that
this is something that will come out of this summit.
Today's people here will realize we have here.
Speaker 11 (18:01):
Yeah, I think that's one of the most important things. Right,
you know, we know that our outdoors attracts people from
you know, around the country and around the world.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Right.
Speaker 11 (18:08):
Secretary Ruby has done a great job over nine billion
dollars in tourism spending. But we also need to make
sure that our citizens can make sure that they have
access to the great outdoors and recognize it is one
of the critical components for our history and it integrates
into our quality of life that we have here in
West Virginia and as you said, sometimes because it's so
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close to us and we're so used to it, we
sometimes forget how special it is. But it is truly
some of the best outdoor recreation in the country. We
have some of the highest density of basically whitewater rivers
in the entire country, out more than North Carolina and
more than Civic Northwest. From a mid Atlantic East close
climbing standpoint, we have some of the highest concentration some
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of the best rock climbing in the entire East East
coast and the country we can compete in. We have
some great access to trails, from our rail trails, to
our water trails, to our mountain bike trails, to some
of our scenic overlooks. So we really do. And let's
not forget about the Hatfield McCoy and what they've done
and the great work that they've done down there and
particularly in the southern part of the state. And then
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you throw in our wonderful rivers for fishing. We really
do have it all right here in West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Now, who are you hoping or who's going to be
coming to this summits at the Coliseum.
Speaker 11 (19:22):
Yeah, like I said, we will have people from this
you know, various cvbs will have economic development professionals, will
have land managers, will have other nonprofit leaders. It is
a really incredible mix of people. And I think I
can say here is I'm so excited that we have
sold out the first conference with over three hundred and
(19:43):
fifty people coming to attend's.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And that's what makes people at your groups like yours
happy is when he said people coming in.
Speaker 12 (19:51):
Right, right, And really it's turning those challenges into opportunities
what we did with a send and the OEDC and Danny,
the and County are are great partners in this, but
it's it's attracting people to our outdoor space, Appalachian Outlaw Trails,
SUSI has done a ton of work in the Upper
Canal Valley. Just wanted to mention them too. I think
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they'll be there.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Right, they will their sponsor yeah as well, and you
mentioned the ASSINN program. You're with the a SIN program
as well. Right, Absolutely to talk about that. Explain for
those it's because it's kind of been you know, it's
in the news really big. I haven't heard a lot
about it in a while, So explain how that's going
and what exactly it is Yeah.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
So one of the things that we recognize is that
population loss and brain train is one of the biggest
challenges facing West Virginia. And so we with the support
of WVU and brad Nelle Smith through the Winged Wing Foundation,
and the State of West Virginia, we all came together,
and particularly here in Charleston with the Charleston Area Alliance
and so many of our great partners came together and said,
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how do we take a challenge and turn it into
an opportunity. So what we do is we utilize community
purpose and the outdoors. So we look for people who
want to build be part of a community and build community.
We want people who want to come here and help
make us better. And then we utilize the outdoors to
attract people here and then retain people here through a
program called First Descent, which is helping keep our graduating
(21:13):
students from WVU and Marshall in the state of West
Virginia when they graduate, and in doing so it helped
can help reverse that population loss in that brain drain.
And so the program is just we've had over seventy
eight thousand applications for the program.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Seventy eight thousand seventy eight seventy eight thousand. I just
want to make sure everybody took that into seventy eight thousand.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Of thelation of Charleston.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah more, Yeah, seventy eight thousand people have said, this
is where I want to be.
Speaker 12 (21:42):
We got some big announcements coming up soon for the
Charleston area too.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
It's amazing.
Speaker 10 (21:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, when can we expec those announcements. You don't have
to tell us now, but can in the coming weeks,
the coming way, in the coming weeks. All right, So
let's get back to the summit again. Go over the hours,
the time times. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (22:01):
So we'll be kicking off tonight around six o'clock for
just a kind of a award ceremony.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
Welcome.
Speaker 11 (22:07):
Tomorrow morning at eight thirty, we'll be kicking off and
it'll go all the way through five. We'll have a
great celebration at the Capital Market tomorrow and then with
our partners, the Nature Conservancy, we're doing a day at
the Capital on Thursday as well. And I'd be remiss
if I didn't just say to every single one of
our sponsors, thanks for believing in us, thanks for investing
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in us, and thanks for your support.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
And again I didn't understand that you guys are going
to be at the capital, as you just said. So
I'll be excigning because you get legislature in town, you
get to you get to educate them, just like you're
educating the listeners. They've got the great things going on here.
Is there a spot online, website, social media that you
got that people can learn more about this?
Speaker 11 (22:47):
Yeah, West Virginia Outdoor Economy Summit. Just take a look.
Type it into Google and it will pop right up.
You should be the very first one. The team's worked
really hard to make sure that it shows up first.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And while we've got you two here, Mara and Susie. Uh,
What's what's going on with the Alliance these days? Anything
that you want to push besides this?
Speaker 12 (23:06):
First of all, a send that's that's a big project.
Our lift center is under construction. We just picked the
colors for the metal skin and roof on Friday. Susie's
got a lot going on in the outdoor economy, wrapping
up an ARC grant right now.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
We are doing a lot of planning in the Eppercinal Valley, Trails,
riverfront development, business development. It's been pretty exciting and we're
hoping to pull together like a progress report at the
end of this, so it couldn't be happy to come
back on.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Absolutely, you know you're always WelCom I mean, we talk
to you a lot about window decorating and so during
Christmas and is going to kick off again? And when
does that kick off?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
We're going to open up registration within probably the next week.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Okay, all right, And I think with the winter that
we've had, I think everybody is thinking about outdoors. Yes,
outdoors that is not involving risking your life walking to
your mailbox. You know that's I think everybody wants to
get outdoors. So guys, I appreciate everybody being here. Danny
Twilley again, Assistant Vice President for Economic and Community Development
of the brad and Elise Smith Outdoor Economic Development Collaborative,
(24:12):
and Susie Sawsby and Mara Box. You guys gonna have
to get long titles like that. I appreciate it. Appreciate
everybody for being here, hanging out with me. Here just
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Speaker 8 (27:56):
Oh good. That's always nice to be on show and
be able to hear my voice.
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Always nice for you to hear your own voice. That's
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Speaker 8 (28:12):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
So all right. News broke overnight about the passing of
Jesse Jackson, the Reverend doctor Jesse Jackson. We're gonna spend
some time talking about it on Metro News Midday to
Day with two different guests. I'll tell you about that
a little bit later on. One of the first things I
saw I got up this morning, Danny, and I turned
on the television and I saw where it was coming
across the screen, and then got my phone with the
(28:34):
social media and the first thing, because you know, phones
know what you're thinking. The first thing, the first thing
I saw was a picture of you that you posted
of you and Bliet Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
That was two thousand and four. Okay, I've been mayor
a year. That was during the regatta, and somebody asked
me if I would squire him around. It may have
been the trades Unions. I can't remember who it was
that's who sponsored his trip here. And were you mayor
(29:08):
at that time?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yes, okay, you're maya.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
And we I've been mayor by the year and we
we hung hung together with him and his group, and
I can tell you a few stories. You know, what
do they call those things you get? Elephant ears? Yeah,
he ate two of them really, and his people the pastries. Yeah,
(29:33):
his people around around him pulled at me, said.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Get him away from everybody's got to have handlers.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
Well, they were trying to get him not to eat
so much, and I think he didn't want to eat
so much. But but he walked through the crowd and
we walked down through the uh down down the road
down to where the where the shown bomb stages.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
Now.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
We walked down that road. There was some real big
heavy guy that was laying It looked like he was
laying drunk, and he was laying down. He had his
arm hanging over the steps and everything. Jesse's got the
biggest shick out of that. You know, he laughed, but
not enough to offer him one of his elephant ears. Right, No,
(30:26):
but he watched the fireworks. Now, the one thing you
need to realize about Jesse Jackson is you can ask
him about your family, about his family. He's not going
to ask you about yours. I mean, well, Jesse's for Jetsey.
(30:47):
He talked about himself. He's he was. He drew a
lot of attention, and a lot of people thought it
was kind of neat to see him and just wall
come around saying hello. Despite all the stories about what
he did when he was young as a waiter, nobody's
(31:07):
going to tell me he didn't like white people. Because
the next day he was with all those union folks
and they were going to a rallying. He was trying
to get me to come, and I wouldn't. I would
I wouldn't come.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Was he a pretty nice guy though? Oh?
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Very much? Okay, yeah, very much.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Glad to hear that, because they always say you know that,
every every and here's the thing, and I've met a
lot of celebrities of my time as of you. Sometimes
people say, well, this guy or this person, they were
a terrible person, they were rude. Whatever. You got to
remember that when you encounter people you only see him
on one day, Yeah, and you don't know what's going
on in their personal life or their business or their
family or whatever. It maybe has them in a foul mood.
(31:45):
But the majority of the VIPs that I've met over
the years, political athletes, singers, actors, whatever, majority of him
have been pretty cool people. And I talked to some
people that knew Reverend jack not like they were best
friends or anything, but but they all said he was
such a pretty nice guy behind the scenes.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
You never met Paul Anka.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
No, I've never met Paul Anka.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
I'm glad I didn't. He played up at uh Waterford
up at Chester and he was nice to the to
the crowd, but to the people that worked there, he
was completely nasty.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
There are a lot of stories, yeah like that. There
are a lot of stories.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
In eighty eight, when I was sheriff, Reverend Jackson was
running for president and they gave him double secret service and.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
He ran twice. He ran eighty eight and eighty eight, okay,
and he was up.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
The airport and he had double secret service. Protection cost
forty grand a day. Michael Dicaccas turned down protection. He
didn't have any So when he came here, he got
us State police didn't want him. The city didn't have
(33:08):
the jurisdiction, so he got the sheriff's department. So one
day on that on my Facebook, if I outlive him,
I've got pictures all put up myself and Governor Michael
Ducaucus because we were with him, and he actually wasn't
down in the coal mines.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I remember that.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
So, but.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Reverend Jackson was a really nice guy and he liked people.
And Willie Nelson was there.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I remember. I wasn't in Charleston, but I do remember
this now.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
The one thing. Two things I remember about him, Willie, Yeah,
I just listen to him talk. I didn't talk to him.
He likes ethanol and he hates Republicans.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
He's very liberal. Yeah, very liberal. I'm going to tell
some stories a little bit later today. Danny on Metro
News Midday. When Jesse Jackson was campaigning for president, he
came for a rally in Logan and I was in
I was in junior high then. That's how you know
you're old when you call it junior high, not middle school.
I was in Logan East Junior High in nineteen eighty four,
when he was running for president the primary and he
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came to he spent the night in Logan and at
a place called Mudfork. And I'm going to tell the
story later today on Metro News Midday. How monumental that
that was for Jesse Jackson to spend the night in Mudfork.
I don't want to spoil it, but on the show
later today, we're going to have on Metro News Miday,
(34:42):
We're going to talk to Matthew Watts about his memories
of Jesse Jackson. But I'm also going to talk to
and he's a frequent guest of the show, Burke Allen,
who is the guy that got me into all, you know,
the radio business whatever. Burke's on the show from time
to time. Burke was a high school order for the
Here's How Logan High newspaper. It was called Here's That
(35:04):
still it's called Here's How. And he got an interview
with Jesse Jackson was junior in high school and he
got to set down one on one interview with Jesse Jackson,
which was picked up by the New York Times.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
I can see him doing that, yeah, And I can
see him some young person walking up to him with
a pen pen and pad and their wind or just
a pen and pad? Do you mind a fascis some questions?
I bet he'd sit right down.
Speaker 10 (35:30):
He did.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
He actually chose and Burkell tell the story. He actually
chose Burke over a lot of other people that wanted
interviews because he thought he liked the the neatness of
that of just talking to a I guess what have
been a high school junior at the time.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
When he was he was involved with doctor King and
he was on the stoop yep of at the Lorraine
Motel when doctor King was shot in the neck and
he and oh, I don't know Abernathy and maybe was
Andrew Young, I don't know who it was. And they
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were pointing where it came from.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I've seen that, Yeah, very iconic picture.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
They were appointing. They were pointing at where it you know,
where it came from.
Speaker 9 (36:13):
And he.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
He was considered I mean, I read everything and get
my hands on in and when I was in the service,
that's all I did. And he was considered a little
bit of a lightweight. He ran for mayor against uh
mayor Daily in Chicago, and that didn't go over very well.
And then all of a sudden he just started surging,
(36:43):
and I think it really manifested itself when he ran
for president in eighty four. I think it really is
when things really kicked in for him.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
He had a lot of health issues and it was
a neurological disease. Is I guess what the official cause
of death. He's been out of the public eye for
some time, and I know his offspring and his people
in his organization continuing to do a lot of his
work and stuff, but he was just I guess, you know,
my memories as a younger person, well relatively speaking of
(37:17):
Jesse Jackson, was it seemed like at one point, whenever
there was a hot button, and I'm I'm just being
truthful here, Danny, when there was a hot button, you know,
issue pretending to race, that you would we would see,
not always together, but you'd see Jesse Jackson and Al
Sharpton there. Al Sharpton continues to do some of that,
although with his health issues and his age, not as
(37:38):
much as he as he used to. But Jesse was
always he was always there. I just remember Jesse Jackson
being on television a whole lot when I was a
kid growing up in the seventies and eighties, and I don't.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
I don't watch him as NBC too much, so I don't.
I think he's Sharpton still got to show there.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I think he does.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
Yeah, he came here when there was a less a
rate down in Mingo County or somewhere, and of this
young black girl who the prosecutor down there told me,
if they hadn't played guilty, I had no case. But
(38:18):
he got him to plead guilty. He had no case.
And Malik Shabaz came here. You know, Oh, he trashed
me big time. What do you say, Oh, I can't
remember Jerry. At one time, Jerry had posted on Facebook
(38:39):
it was but he really trashed me. And he didn't
have any reason to because the first thing, it wasn't
in this county and I didn't know anything about it.
And then the young then Sharpton came down and he
spoke over at first Baptist and to rally for the
(39:02):
young lady, and he gave them some money and her
mother took it, took the money and bought dope with it.
And the girl called back to my office a few
months later or wanting us to do something for it,
and we were we couldn't help.
Speaker 9 (39:19):
Her, and.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
But Malicia Boz really maligu Zu Lusha Baz. I remember
when he ran for city council and he got beat
by a white gay Republican, all of which he hates.
You know, he's amped out all three of those. And
(39:45):
but he spent a lot of time strutting around here,
and he did it in this studio. Hoppy was was
he and Hoppy got into arguments.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
So what do you think the old We're all legacy
Jesse Jackson will be? Because, as I said, he's been
out of the public eye for some time because of
his health issues. But what do you think that legacy
of Jesse Jackson will be, Denny?
Speaker 8 (40:11):
I think it'll be a blend of SCLC trying to
get people in movie theaters in the South when they
when they they couldn't get in. There's actually a video
of him trying to buy movie tickets in a movie
theater for a whole line of black folks and they
(40:31):
wouldn't let him in. Hey, well, I mean he's just
sitting there talking to the guy, why why won't you
We have money here? Our money's good. We'd like to
see the movie. I think that obviously it would be
in civil rights and can Operation Push, which probably did
(40:51):
more in the neighborhood in Chicago than it did anywhere else.
And Chicago needs help, and I think I think that
would be the legacy.
Speaker 9 (41:07):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
He's always a pleasure have you on the show two
days in a row. We'll talk to you next Monday.
How's that?
Speaker 8 (41:12):
What a deal?
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the Kanaw Valley lost a true true icon with the
passing a former Capitol High coach, Roger Jefferson. Fred Pur
singers the voice of high school sports in West Virginia.
He joins us the morning, sir.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Good morning. I'm very very honored. I don't think I've
ever shared a studio with Dale Cooper.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
You're talking about football star extraordinary, but Roger Jefferson. Yeah,
that's that's obviously a joke, but it is a honor
to uh to a star that I wasn't play.
Speaker 8 (45:49):
So there you go.
Speaker 18 (45:50):
I have the unique, UH, I have the unique perspective
of having observed coach Jail on the sidelines for years,
you know, instead of from the field.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
So yeah, that's I guess that's my perspective on it.
Speaker 8 (45:59):
Eight.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Bred talk about the first time you met Roger Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
The first time I did. Of course, I think most
people know. I did Beckley football and basketball for a
long time, and during those years that Roger was the
head coach at Capitol, that was my first association with him.
He became the head coach back in nineteen eighty nine
and was only there for eight seasons, but every year
Beckley would play Capital. So the one thing you always
(46:26):
knew about Roger Jefferson he was going to have his
teams prepared and they were going to be mean in
a good way, in a football way. One of his idols,
and you probably know this, one of his idols, Lee
On McCoy. Leon McCoy was one of the greatest coaches ever.
But I put Roger Jefferson certainly in Well for only
(46:46):
eight seasons, but I still was putting definitely in the
top ten of high school football coaches in the state.
You know, Roger, Roger was mostly a wrestling guy. You know,
he did play football at Marshall, but he was he's
in fact, he was inducted in to the National Wrestling
Hall of Fame, So I mean he was. But Roger
was the kind of guy that, as I was telling
(47:07):
you earlier this morning, Dave, no matter where I would
see Roger after he left Capital, after he retired, he
would always stop and say, Hey, Fred, how's it going man.
You know, off the field, he was as genuine as
anyone I've ever known. On the field, he just wanted
to beat you, and his teams were good. He won
three state championships during those eight seasons. Ninety five was
(47:30):
his last one. That he quit in ninety six after
the ninety six season. But yeah, and Dale, you were around.
Speaker 18 (47:36):
Him, you know, Yeah, Honestly, there's a lot of things
about Roger that although although I wasn't a top one
player at all, but what you said about playing hard
and mean but in a good way is it is
because there's a difference between and I've played under some
different coaches on different things, and there's a difference between
coaches that tell you to get out there and hurt somebody.
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Get out there and you want to make it their
worst day. You know, you have guys that motivate you
that way. Jefferson's was much more internalized on that. He
wanted you to work very hard and he wanted you
to be as best as you could possibly be within
the confines of his system. His system was not complicated.
He called the counter trade the Redskins countertrade that he ran.
It was he called it joker, So it was Joker left,
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Joker right. That was ninety percent of the playbook. There
was not no cher he ran other than that. You'd
have a dive off of the center one way or
the other if you needed the short yardage. You might
have a couple of misdirection play but the bread and
butter of that playbook was Joker left Joker right, and
you practiced it, and he would give you oculades and
practice if you did well. If you didn't, then you
got called on it. And there was things from a
(48:40):
discipline standpoint that I don't even know where football and
coaches is today. But like the running the gassers at
the end of the of practice until you're basically throwing up,
and frankly, for us beggar guys, he would highlight us
and we would have to do certain athletic feats, and
if we failed doing that, that would mean that everybody
would have to run like he would kind of put us.
And I think that today that maybe that would be
(49:02):
frowned upon a little bit. But you know what, it
was done from such a perspective that it didn't feel
like anything except for trying to be better at what
you were doing. And I never felt that there was
anything other than that there. And although I was not
a good football player, I felt like playing on that
team for as many years as I did. Really, I mean,
my desire for loving defensive football and running the football
comes from my time at Capitol.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
And while he kept his offenses day as dall As
saying simples, his bread and butter was his defense, and
his defense particularly he played that middle linebacker and one
of the plays I know that he used against Beckley
was first play on defense. The middle linebacker jumped off
off sides and hit the at the time he could
(49:47):
play over the center. He would hit that center. I
remember hitting Beckley center when you're knocking him five yards back,
and the guy that was doing color for me, he said, oh,
that was a mistake, and I said, no, no, not
a mistake. He just set the tone because he wanted
you to play tough.
Speaker 18 (50:03):
If I'm not mistaken, Fred, you would probably know this
better than me from an observer standpoint. But I think
he did the same thing with Todd Robinson. Robins Tod Robinson,
but he would blow up that center sometimes drop offside,
and he was the strongest, fastest guy on the field,
and he would send shivers down your spine.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
One of the better linebackers in high school. I can
never remember Todd Robinson. He put Buckley center well five yards.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Behind the lines in the concession stands.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
Time to go home.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
That's what you know. I was talking to Speedy Bevans
earlier in the morning, and Speedy and I were talking
about Roger Jefferson, and he was talking about as a broadcaster,
when Speedy and the late Bob Weisner would come up
to call Logan and Capital games. He said, you know
that about how how gracious that the coach was to them.
(50:49):
But as Speedy said in that speedy style. He said, well,
you know, you don't have a lot of stress when
you're up fifty to nothing at the half, as they
normally were over Logan, you know, back in the day.
So you know you're gonna be in a better mood
about But he talked about it wasn't alone though, Well yeah,
but you but but he that goes along kind of
Fred with what you said about how just generally And
I didn't know the gentleman at all, just knew what
I read what I heard on the radio that what
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a genuine, just a good person he was.
Speaker 15 (51:13):
He was.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
He was indeed, uh love his wife Carol, these two daughters,
had three grandchildren. I mean, just one of those guys
that you know you didn't like him because he wasn't
your head coach, you know, right, I mean he and
you know, I think for just eight seasons is all
he was there at Capitol.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
What do you do after he retired? What did you do, Premier?
What kept him? The lost track? I lost track?
Speaker 4 (51:35):
Yeah, sure I would see him, you know, like I said,
State tournament and basketball, I would see him, But I
lost track after football, and like you know, I kept
on him. I was at Backley still six years after
that after he left.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
So, guys, I appreciate both of you for jumping in
here today. Fred the voice of high school sports in
West Virginia and longtime Capitol high standout. He was standing
standing out by the bench. But hey, like I said,
you played the game. I didn't. So you were hey
one up on me. You were a member of the team,
and he made you feel that way. That's right, That's
all that matters. And uh, and you took a lot
(52:09):
of lessons from when I'm when I'm gathered. You took
a lot of lessons that have absolutely nothing to do
with football that you use today. But Anthony and I
are not going to run Gasser just so you know,
all right, Brad Persinger and Nadel could appreciate you both
being here. Coming up on the show tomorrow, Millie Snyder
will stop buying a man. The McDonald from the Western
and Symphony, Meadows and Wilson are alive at the Capitol.
Coming up at ten o six e Menro News talk Line.
(52:31):
I'll see you later today on midday. Till then, have
fun and love somebody.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
You hs am six point five on Charleston one o
four point five cross laying u v RC Media Station.
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