Feds Won't Seek Death Penalty Bandidos Leader Off the Hook

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
God, the folks, Ah, good morning. Let me tell you.
I always say it's not over till the fat Lady sings.
You know, in Texas they'll kill you. They will they
they kill people in Texas. I mean they kill everybody everywhere,
but in Texas the government will kill your ass. I'm

(00:42):
from Oklahoma. Oklahoma and Texas are places where you can
be killed by the government and nobody cares. Like nobody
cares that. They like, that's what they do. If you

(01:03):
break the law in Texas, that ass can be out
of here. They don't care. They could just like they got.
The death penalty is like on fleece. It's like, hey,
did what did he do? Kill him?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Hang him, hang him, kill him, hand him, legend Chaire,
kill him.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
There are certain places like you don't commit crimes a
certain Texas, but don't mess with do not play in Texas.
I mean, I thought everybody knew that I'm from Oklahoma.
It's messed up there too. They are. They are Those
states are really like hardcore like Bible Belt kind of

(01:51):
Christian Puritan principle, kind of don't f around here. Places
you don't have around in Oklahoma. I grew up in Oklahoma.
They would beat your ass. But still people commit crimes there.
People commit crimes there. Kay Wayne said, come on vacation,

(02:13):
leave on probation. People commit crimes there. And uh, these
uh Bandido guys, you know, the baddest as club there
in in Texas. I mean there's I don't think there's
a doubt about that. If they're not the baddest ass club,
they're one of the baddest ass clubs in Texas. I

(02:37):
don't want nobody getting mad at me, you know how
my view you said their club was the baddest. Okay,
one of the baddest clubs in Texas got in some
trouble and it.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Looked like they was gonna fly one of them guys, or.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Two of them or three of them. So we got
some news today. Are those guys going to face the
death penalty? And we'll be reporting on that. See what
the preacher wrote for me? The preacher writes my scripts
for the morning, And I'm so pleased to have him
to do that because they're like so awesome. But I

(03:10):
be like i'd be I don't I don't follow the prompter.
Let me see, today I'm Black Dragon Backer TV. We're
diving into breaking news involving one of the most notorious
outlaw motorcart clubs in America and in fact the world,
the Bandidos them Seeing so, federal prosecutors have made an
announcement about the death penalty against John Feffer, the alleged

(03:36):
leader of the Bandido's faction, accused of waging a deadly
war against rival biker groups earlier this year. So, okay,
so we're going to talk about that. I will discuss
the Justice Department backed off a death penalty case and
in another another one of these cases, and we're going
to talk about the current status of the conflict. Okay,

(03:57):
what else we're going to talk about? Oh yeah? Also,
so bikers with Badgers ride for brotherhood. Not all bikers
are on the wrong side of the law. And today
we'll highlight a law enforcement riding group, biker group the
Blue Knights, who are standing in solidarity with their fellow officers,
and what else. Oh and then finally we're going to

(04:19):
talk about my latest TikTok talk Ladies Don't be a
road Rash Queen. Pastor Logic also drops his latest TikTok
Jim for the Ladies of the Biker set. Oh I
didn't know that he snuck that in on me. Okay,
So Pastor Logic drops his latest TikTok Jim for the

(04:40):
ladies of the Biker set, a real talk warning about
hopping on the back of strangers motorcycles. Ah wow, okay,
we'll talk about safety, respect and awareness on the set
because your life and dignity matter more than the thrill
of the ride. Join us myself, Lavish T. Williams and

(05:02):
the Preacher Logic in a minute and seven seconds will
be back to discuss these and perhaps other things. Hey,
thanks for tuning in since twenty sixteen. Back after this
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What's up? What's up everyone?

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What's going on? Black Dragon?

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Hey man, I don't know where that I don't know
where that last part came from man. I said, I said,
I did, I.

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Gotta read I got I'll be mixing up my writings.

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Yeah, you wrote that. I was like, and when did
he make it? I didn't say nothing. I was just like,
I went with it.

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I did it.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
I did a TikTok, but that wasn't the topic.

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Speaker 1 (08:16):
I read it, you wrote it. I was like, he
didn't tell me he did that, Okay. I was like,
oh he made one two okay, wow. Thing At the
same time, I just went with it. It was the script.
I read the script right right right the whole time.
I was like, h that's what happened.

Speaker 8 (08:38):
That's what happened when you're trying to write scripts and
you and you in your vehicle and you're not sitting
in front of your computer.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I was I was amazed that you got the script
to me. I was like, I thought you could only
do this on his computer. And then the script popped
up and I was like, wow, look at the preacher.

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when I'm sitting still and I'm logged in too stream yard,
then I can do it.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Mm hmm Okay, I got you going on? Man, Okay,
so I now that we're clear on that, I was like, wow, okay,
somebody as it words Lavish Lavish didn't answer the phone
this morning, and uh I went straight.

Speaker 8 (09:22):
And it wasn't no logic, wasn't on point to call him.
That was black Dragon point to call him and he
didn't answer.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I mean, Lavish didn't answer the phone this morning. Why
do I do that? Uh? He didn't answer the phone.
And maybe he's campaigning. You know, he'd be out there
doing his thing. So uh, I don't know what's going on.
Thank you for calling Lavish selling we specialize or anything

(09:50):
from some starts to private clouds. I've never seen this
person many times as I talked to Lavish, I've never
seen nobody with a voice like that.

Speaker 7 (09:59):
Uh uh, well, you know you can hire people to
do your commercials.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Is that what that is? Because I ain't seen nobody
around the office like sound like that. I haven't. He's
lying to us.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Sounds like a weather girl.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
Hy you go with that Wether girl.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I forgot. I forgot. We have a passenger this morning.
I got to be good. Can we meet her? Can
everybody meet her?

Speaker 7 (10:36):
She's not kind of money.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Get on line.

Speaker 7 (10:39):
I should her just say hello, this is lady.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
To y'all. This is the Path's wife. Bye, hie, welcome to.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
We now get to meet the boss. Everyone. We all
have one Okay, no weather girl talk. Here we go. Uh,
thankful whatever you do today, don't you dare? I'm not

(11:19):
I'm not good. Uh, here we go, moving on to
some greater things here. Uh, this is morning story. Uh,
this is crazy. Feds won't well, this is a good
thing for them. The Feds won't I repeat, will not
see Uh the death penalty for alleged Bendigo's leader accused

(11:45):
of leading a deadly Houston gang war. So for that guy,
Thanks sir, for that guy. It's you know, that's probably
a real So here's the story. Let me make this bigger.
This is a picture here. What is this picture of

(12:07):
Bendido Motorcycle Club members seen during the group's fiftieth anniversary
party that happened on Saturday, March twelve, twenty sixteen. These
guys might not even be in the club anymore in Kingwood. Anyway,
they went back on y'all's ass to get this picture.
And this ain't even in Texas. But hey, that's the picture.
So federal prosecutors will not seek the death penalty against

(12:31):
the alleged leader of a faction of the Bandidos Motorcycle
They say gang, we say club, who was earlier this
year accused of waging a deadly war against rival groups.
So why are they a gang but their rivals are
just groups? That's interesting, isn't that interesting? The Justice last

(12:53):
week notified US District Judge Keith Ellison that it would
not seek the death penalty against John Befer. I think
that's how you say his name. Was charged with using
a firearm to commit a crime resulting in a death
of someone. He is accused of participating in the killing
of mister Adam Burns, a member of Brothers East. A

(13:16):
lot of folks call him be Star East or Beast,
but their real name is Brothers East. They call them
a biker gang who was shot and killed on September
in September twenty twenty five years ago in the Hog
Stop bar in Northeast Houston. I'm sure we did that

(13:37):
story Motorcycle more on Houston Chronicle dot com. The FBI
says the Bandidos started a war. Oh maybe we'll go
check that out. Prosecutors also alleged that Feffer, who goes
by the name of Big John, was tapped to lead
the Welcome to Hell chapter of the Bandidos. Man, what
a name? So Welcome to Hell chapter? Hey man, I'd

(13:59):
like to join Welcome to Hell. Wow. So I don't
know about that.

Speaker 7 (14:09):
I don't know about that either.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, don't have a Welcome to Heaven chapter? Like geez,
some of these clubs, man, have the craziest names and stuff.
Welcome to Hell chapter. Here we go anyway, amen, so prosecutors.
From twenty to twenty twenty to twenty twenty three, for

(14:33):
three years, the gang allegedly participated in murders, assaults, arson
and other crimes around Houston and Harris County. In February, okay,
and this was all in a bid to capture territory
around Houston. In February, feph For and thirteen other current
and former Banditos were indicted on racketeur influence and Corrupt

(14:54):
Organizations act RICO charges. He and two other members, David
Vargas and Roy Gomez, were specifically accused of participating in
crimes that resulted in death, which could potentially carry the
death penalty. Prosecutors, however, have now said that they will not.
They will not again, will not see the maximum penalty

(15:15):
when the case ultimately reaches trial. They're not going to
go for the death penalty. In August, the Justice Department
made similar decision about Vargas and Gomez, and we reported
those stories that they said, okay, well, we're not going
to seek the death department on those guys either, which
is crazy, not crazy, but strange because the Trump administration

(15:37):
seemed to be very heavy. I've been telling you guys
about this for months, months and months that this is
not the administration you want to play with because they'll
put your ass to sleep. But they decided not to go.
Aside from the gun crime, Feffer was indicted on nine
other counts, including racketeering, conspiracy, assault, and tampering with a witness.

(15:58):
That's a crazy one, tampering with a witness. You better
not talk, bro, you better not talk or if you talk,
so anyway, if convicted, Feffer could face still life in prison.

(16:21):
The decision not to seek the death penalty is notable
given President Donald Trump's vocal support for that punishment when
Trump took office in January he signed an executive order
calling capital punishment an essential tool for deterring crime, and
vow that in his Justice Department they would be seeking
more death enalities. That's what he said. They'd be seeking

(16:49):
more federal executions. You know, the Feds hardly execute anybody.
You don't never see the Feds execute no one. The
State of Texas will execute your ass but the Feds.
But Donald Trump said that very much.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
That's really nice.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's what he is. He said, that's what he was
going to do. So it's interesting that they didn't didn't
seek the death penalty here. The next month, Attorney General
Pam Bondi issued a memo to prosecutors urging them to
seek the harshest possible criminal charges and criminal cases. They
want the harshest possible charges and all criminal cases, opening

(17:23):
up the possibility for potentially more death penalty adjudications. There
have been at least three other indictments handed up this
year in the Southern District of Texas that could potentially
be tried as death penalty cases. So far, prosecutors have
not signaled their intent to seek the death death penalty
on a single case. Decisions about seeking the death penalty

(17:46):
and federal cases are not made solely by local prosecutors.
Death penalty eligible cases are reviewed by a Capital Reviewed
Committee at the Justice Department, which makes recommendations to Pam
Bondy whether the penalty will be shot. But the final
decision is ultimately with Pam Bondy. And so it was

(18:08):
Pam herself, obviously who decided not to seek the death
penalty on your boys down there in Texas, which I'm
sure that.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
Hey, wait a minute, how okay, So.

Speaker 8 (18:24):
I don't I'm trying to remember how how courts work.

Speaker 7 (18:31):
You to.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Now we haven't okay, now, Lavish T. Williams, Okay, what
up though?

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Hey, what's happening to y'all? I'm just getting on.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
We know that.

Speaker 8 (18:49):
So, so you go to court, you go to trial,
you have a jury, the jury convicts you, and then
and uh, they recommend a penalty or the judge recommends.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
But here are the penalties that y'all can No.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
No, you're a little bit. They know when they're before
they try you whether this will be a death penalty
case or not.

Speaker 8 (19:19):
Okay, So how does the how does the director of
the Justice Department.

Speaker 7 (19:28):
That does not hear the case.

Speaker 8 (19:31):
Can say that if this, if this person is gonna
get this because you said that she has the final say.

Speaker 7 (19:37):
So I'm trying to figure that out.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Uh, Well, it's a federal case, so she's the boss
of the Fed's right. Uh, she's the boss of the Fed.
So I guess they brief her.

Speaker 7 (19:55):
Wee of federal cases in the country.

Speaker 10 (19:58):
Man, I mean like, wow, wow, I'm just saying, even
if it wasn't her, if any director of the Department
of Justice, so they have a say in all the
capital federal cases in the country.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
That's what this thing says. Wow.

Speaker 8 (20:15):
Okay, I'm just trying to get a understanding. I'm not
saying it's right or wrong. I'm just saying, wow, I
don't know. Uh, Lavish, Lavish, we can't hear you, bro,
and hear you Lavish.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
I said, I don't know nothing about no federal stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Man.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
I wasn't that big of a fish. I was more
out on the state level.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
On state level, Lavish is cleaning up his act. He's
running for police commissioner now he doesn't want to.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, I got a court date coming up this month, man,
for my asponishment to man.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Hopefully that works well for you. I did forget uh
Modo Gato properly calls out that the Beast Motorcycle Club
does call themselves the Beast Motorcycle Gang. They weren't even
playing that they're the Beast MG. And really, yeah, really
you know that you're down in Texas.

Speaker 7 (21:13):
No, no, no, how how I don't know all the
clubs here in Texas, man, you.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Know how big Texas is.

Speaker 7 (21:19):
I don't even know all the clubs in the metroplatex Bro.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Wonder Center clubs. Anyway, Yeah, they're the Beast MG.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
It.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
When I first read that, like like five or six
years ago or seven years ago, the Beast Motorcycle Gang,
I was like, no club calls themselves that, but no,
that's that's who they are. The Beast guys. You know
who you are.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
And they say, they say, we're not even gonna mix words.

Speaker 11 (21:49):
It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
It is what it is. Parker News Canada says, Pam
Bonnie is a joke from what I say, Hey, you
can call or whatever name you want to call it.
The mofo's in charge. She's in charge, okay. And when
you're in charge, they can call you a joke, but
don't go in court before you can find yourself in

(22:14):
some real live trouble messing with that woman. Man, I
wish you would go into court. You're a joke, Pam,
You're a Pamela. You're a joke. Okay, all right, So
just so you know, I don't even recognize you. I
don't recognize you here, joke.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
You're talking about somebody watching the show.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Backers Canada said that he said, Okay, she might be
a joke, but she might get the last life on
your ass, like death penalty. So the Justice Department uh
death penalty eligible cases are reviewed and the final decision
is ultimately, ultimately made by Pam Bondi. So the announcement

(22:58):
clear is one of the hurdles ahead of the Bandido's trial,
which is we're not going to be tried with the
death penalty, which is a good thing if you're one
of them, which is now scheduled for May twenty twenty six. Now,
if you are the family of the person who died,
you might not think it's such a great thing. Prosecutors
last month asked for more time to prepare their case,
in part because of a large amount of evidence that

(23:19):
needs to be prepared in a filing. They told Ellis
in their case includes more than a one hundred and
sixty two thousand pages of documents as well as extensive video, audio,
and phone evidence. Wow. So that is a major victory
in that case. At least you're not facing the debt Onty.

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The Beasts and the Bandidos have been going at it
for years, back and forth, especially down in the Houston
area and having what two chapters in Houston, Houston chapter
in Spring, a chapter in Dallas, a chapter in Fort Worth.
We've been on the front lines looking at that, sitting

(24:09):
in the bleachers, watching them for a long time, go
back and forth. Hopefully, hopefully they get it together and
some of these bike clubs can start stop some of
this shit, man, because why are we putting brothers in
the grave in bearing people. I'm hoping that the white
bike set will come together like the Black bike set has,
and well, a few of them, a few of them

(24:32):
are including we know the Mongols put out a letter
letting everybody know that they're having meetings to form a truce.
And some of the other clubs I've heard of, I
can't disclose who they are yet, right right, but I've
heard from some of the members of those clubs and
there's some big clubs, but not all the clubs. We're

(24:55):
hoping all the clubs get it together.

Speaker 10 (24:57):
Anyway, Next story, I saw I saw a picture with
and I don't know how old it is, but it
was on Facebook last week. Had a Hell's Angel member
standing next to a Warlock member and they were standing
next to another.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Club.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
I don't remember that club, but I did see that picture.
I don't know what the purpose of the picture was,
but it was it popped up on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Hmm, the Hell's made up standing next to a world
I don't think they I don't think they had beef.
I don't know. Well, I've never heard of those two fighting.
But hey, man, not my Bailey Wick.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
Outlaw.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Listen, man, I had this Black Dragon. I don't know
if you experienced this logic Black Dragon, and this is
I know, two different outlaw clubs.

Speaker 12 (25:54):
And.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
There they have members that are brothers, h brother A
brother is in one club and a brother is in
another club, Blood brother bloved brothers. And I've asked, you know,
because at one point in time, they you know, the
two clubs wasn't going out. You know, they wasn't see

(26:17):
an ey eye. And I just asked one of the guys.
I'm like, hey, man, how do you how do you
handle that?

Speaker 7 (26:22):
Man?

Speaker 3 (26:22):
And you got you know, your brother is over there,
and he looked at me. We had a conversation. But
then of you know, by the end of the story,
what I'm saying telling you is that he said, well,
I just hope if something goes down, I just hope
my brother isn't there. If I'm there, how do you

(26:44):
deal with that man? Your brother? I mean, this is
your blood brother.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Man.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
You gotta tell you man, listen, I just hope that
my brother isn't.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
There, right the.

Speaker 9 (26:57):
Man I am, I'm sorry, Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
It's really wild like that. When I was putting a
chapter in Beauford, South Carolina, a very small town, and
it's very funny because you have families down there in
different one percent clubs, and it is wild to see families, families,
best friends, people that grew up together beefing against each

(27:21):
other in this little bitty town where everybody knows everybody.
In my own club, we had two brothers lock up
in the same club. The brother named Offset threatened his
own brother's life. Here in the Atlanta chapter, when all
that stuff broke out with me. So brothers, can you know,

(27:43):
can kill label? Brothers can?

Speaker 11 (27:45):
Man?

Speaker 3 (27:46):
I could never sit up here and tell my brother,
blood brother Ben.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
He told his blood brother, I'm coming to Atlanta to
take your cut. His brother left the club so he
wouldn't have to make his mama a uh, a woman
with just one child. Them two brothers got out of
that heart well, you know, and I'm thankful, I mean
not thankful, but it was over me. It was over
me and uh and his brother stood on my side,

(28:17):
and it was horrible. So I've seen, man, I've seen
I've seen.

Speaker 8 (28:22):
I've seen it in my own family, though it's not
motorcycle related.

Speaker 7 (28:26):
But up in the Queues, you know, we got our
different parts of town and.

Speaker 8 (28:30):
One of my cousins live on south side of the
cousins live on the east side, and they actually got
into it. I mean they could because different sizes of
the city and they blood.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
I've seen. I've seen cousins on the bike set blood cousins.
I've seen them. I've seen them.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
Fight in No, they were brothers, they were brothers. I'm
a I'm their cousin.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Okay, I've seen cousins physical lee fight pistol whip each other,
well not each other, but one of them pistol whip.
And we don't even know that they freaking related until
it happens and you find out, Like do you know
his mama and brother are his mother and his father?
You know they brothers and sisters.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Wow, this just came in on text message. So this
is a Beast member uh brothers e and this is
like they really don't like the bandidos a whole lot.
Look at that. You gotta uh anti bandido patches what

(29:37):
I would call it.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
So you put it on your vest?

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, they want you to see it. I want you
to see it. He wants you to see it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Hey, just like we shot, just like we showed that.
He got it on his vest because he wanted to
be seen.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
To be seen bye by everybody there.

Speaker 7 (29:56):
You go.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
You want them to know this?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah? They Yeah, they haven't. They don't get more real
than that. They don't like each other. Man, crazy crazy crazy.
Hopefully they they can just you know, like our bro
who's now deceased said way back a long time ago,

(30:21):
and I was mad at him when he said it,
why can't we all just get along? Because I would
have said, burn, baby burn, but Rodney King asked us
if we couldn't all just get along. They found him
dead at the bottom of his pool, suspicious circumstances. I
just thought, just curious throughout the biker generations, how often

(30:42):
are there times there wasn't wars between orm c's or
in the beginning most of these clubs that have been
beefing now I've been doing for generations. They started beefing.
It was the Vietnam War because what Vietnam did was
it introduced drugs into the military and those guys coming
back joining motorcycle clubs had real drug habits, and that's

(31:07):
when the clubs started dealing, and that's what brought the wars.
It was the dope that brought the wars to the clubs,
the drug dealing and territory and all that kind of stuff,
And that for us really happened in the sixties and
seventies and carried on, carried forward. You remember, we had
the big drug ward and stuff. But it was the
and we covered that in my book Motorcycle Club Protocol

(31:30):
one on one. Uh, it was the logic.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
You're definitely gonna mention that book, Ain't.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
He like that's yeah, get the book yet. Hey, wait
a minute, I got a question. I mean, well, it's
a statement, and I think I know Bla and you
covered this before when people joined omc's and a lot
of people joined, and the reasons why people join OMC
is all the different categories of reasons. But I wonder
if in the OMC, in your in processing, as we

(31:58):
used to say in the military, do they let you know, Oh,
by the way, we're at war with them guys over here,
something they did thirty years ago, and now we are
enlisting you. And when next time you see one of
them jokers, you're at war two. I'm saying that because
a lot of people would joined, the probably have to
be an OMC, probably gonna be a regular traditional MC.

(32:20):
You join an organization and then the next day you're
at war with somebody over something you have no clue
about what happened and why.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, I see it in the nine.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Is that a sponge logic?

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Whatever you have?

Speaker 7 (32:40):
Whatever? He said that, whatever question?

Speaker 9 (32:45):
Whatever?

Speaker 7 (32:46):
Who said that? I can't see the comments they too
small on my phone. Who said that? Is that?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Is that?

Speaker 7 (32:52):
What's the name Kwayne?

Speaker 12 (32:55):
Was that? Ka Wayne?

Speaker 1 (32:57):
It has to be.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Is that a sponge.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
You weren't here for yesterday. I wasn't here. Oh my god,
that stuff was funny. Bro. I don't know what he
I just I just asked, Oh my god.

Speaker 7 (33:14):
Why did they tell you to ask that question?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Just say I'm to act, the viewers asked, and I
just asked, hey, man, you know, so we were taking
a look at this picture right here yesterday.

Speaker 7 (33:26):
Oh so you got to go back to it, right.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
All right? And logic said, so, what are these sponges
on your He said, what are these sponges?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
They looked at sponge seriously, right.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Right, a sponge cleaning the hell out of that track, right,
he spunging the ship out of that track. But they
did look like sprudges though. They look like spunges.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Man, the sponge.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Man, Oh my goodness, let.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
You read me. Whatever, man, whatever, dude. Everybody has their moment.
Everybody that said you're gonna keep showing the picture.

Speaker 13 (34:30):
Look like sponges to me, man, Lavish, I was trying
to understand the real name of those things.

Speaker 7 (34:41):
They're not they're not on his knee.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
They are on your knee. No, they're not, They're on
the side.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Look at the picture again.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (34:56):
You know what, Uh, I'm right.

Speaker 7 (34:59):
They're not on your knee.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
They are on your knees, bro, They're they're on the.

Speaker 7 (35:02):
Side of your You're not putting your knee on the ground.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
You are putting your knee.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
That knee is damn their attention side of the knee,
knee is You got the sigh?

Speaker 1 (35:14):
That's what I need, creature. You can't be right with this.
I mean, you want to be right so bad, but
I'm always right.

Speaker 7 (35:21):
Bro, I'm always right, have been you always.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
You had me one hundred to want nothing. But no, no, no, sir, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 7 (35:30):
This ain't This has nothing to do with me and you.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
This has everything doing with me and.

Speaker 7 (35:36):
I forget to.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
See it.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
Him. I didn't ask you, bro.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
These are these are knee pads there if you.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
Go, okay, next story, Thanks Kate, Wayne, Thanks Kay Wayne.
I knew he was gonna bring it up. He told
me he wasn't gonna let me let that down.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
If you go to the custom made letter suit thing here,
I mean, I mean they are kind of off to
the right. They're there. They off to the right exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
They use their knees and their legs when they go
into the curves.

Speaker 6 (36:08):
Man, y, hey, lavish, he said, when he put your foot,
when he put his feet on the back pag, the
way you move your feet is what makes it's what
makes your bike turn.

Speaker 12 (36:23):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Racing like shoot, I can probably learn a lot from
that guy.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Me pass racing bike suit knee pads. Here they are.
They're called knee pads.

Speaker 7 (36:35):
Okay, man, they look like I'm still gonna stick to
what I said. They're not need they're not sponges, but
they look like sponges, don't don't.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
They they're kind of spongy looking, Yes, spongy looking.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
If they look if they weren't that color, or probably
wouldn't have saved me pack. That's not what they are.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
What did you just show matching his colors?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
There? There's more than one kind of them. Okay, yeah,
but if you type in motorcycle suit knee pads, you
get all kind of them. Here's the ones that look.

Speaker 7 (37:11):
Like those are knee pads. Okay, that's what they are.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Deep depth knee sliders. That's what they need.

Speaker 7 (37:20):
So now they're not called knee pads.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Well, they're called the knee slider. They got a whole
bunch of knee names.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
But their needs well, they're not.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
They're not. They're not that's what they're not.

Speaker 7 (37:34):
They're not spungeons.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
We know what they're not. The joker says, they protect
your knees, your your need size. So I don't know, man,
Lavish black Dragon couldn't wait to get something on you.

Speaker 14 (38:00):
I know, right, that's right, Okay, I'll give them one.
So it's like one in ninety six.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Hey, I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
I'll take what why the ninety six, I'll take it.
We call them pucks here, says Davy. Ah, we call
them pucks busy Okay, so they are called side pads.
I don't know what the hell they're called. I know what.

Speaker 9 (38:32):
You're not called.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Sponges, that's what they're not called. Pretty much logic. You've
come in to a club hearing beef stories from five
to ten years old. Yes, this is true, being brainwashed
to dislike other clubs you never personally had issues with
in the pah, and that is the true. It is
even inside clubs. Even inside clubs, they teach you that

(38:58):
hate people that are old geez or whatever, and they
talk about things that happened years before you even came
in the club to get you upset over somebody or whatever.
It's it's kind of silly, all right, y'all.

Speaker 7 (39:12):
Look in my in my my old crews.

Speaker 10 (39:15):
When new new jokers come walk or come around our crew,
and I got beef or I got beef for somebody,
and this guy he wants to have the same beef.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
I told him.

Speaker 7 (39:23):
I said, man, you don't know nothing about this fight.
This mean his fight. Now, if I get junk, you
jump in. But uh, you don't have nothing to do
with this. I would say that.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
M h.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
And I'm told a little bit more about myself.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
So yeah, you just keep going on, all right. Next story,
here we go, Uh this one okay, So for my
cop haterors, y'all won't like this story, I'm sorry, uh
sorry to my cop hators, to my non cop heators.
Here we go, Hey, meta, take a photo.

Speaker 11 (40:10):
People of a certain age will recall the television Love
Affair America developed four Cops on Bikes. The TV showed
chips got that start back in the eighties, and it
showed the lives of law enforcement on duty, off duty,
and on a motorcycle. Forty years later, ROALLYE. Hoyd salutes
the heroes in a law enforcement group, supporting their brothers
and sisters on the force, off duty, but still very

(40:33):
much on their bikes.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
Stipulation from the club you have to have arresting powers
and have a motorcycle. Oh yeah, you can be in
our club.

Speaker 15 (40:42):
Bikers, barbecue and badges. That's how the fourth Arkansas chapter
the Blue Knights rolls into lunch in Jefferson County.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
We do fundraisers for our community. We raise money for
different organizations. We are a nonprofit organization and I believe
I spoke to our trader last night and she said
that about the last year and a half, we've raised
forty thousand dollars and given away thirty thousand of that.

Speaker 15 (41:07):
That's Dusty Summers, vice president of the motorcycle group, describing
what the Blue Knights are. We caught up with him
and some other members. It writes ranch house in Whitehall.
They meet once a month and ride whenever they can.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
I can't have.

Speaker 15 (41:18):
That's done sometimes to raise members' spirits and often beautiful scene.

Speaker 16 (41:23):
We have Maam, a wife and their three dollars just
started up foundation for Menial Awareness for officers and their families.

Speaker 15 (41:31):
That's Richard wingerd the former police chief in Whitehall. His
son Terry followed in his footsteps, but died by suicide
a year and a half ago. Thus the emphasis on
raising mental awareness for men and women in blue and
khaki back when I started.

Speaker 16 (41:46):
Yet they forty six years ago down you know, he
didn't talk about wow man ever kind of shoot me
up whatever, look you They said, Well, if he can't
handle it, we don't need it.

Speaker 7 (41:56):
But over time has.

Speaker 15 (41:57):
Evolved, and so Dusty, Terry's best and Terry's mom and
dad teamed up to stage a ride in Terry's honor.

Speaker 16 (42:04):
The city of Pine Bluff, the city of Whitehall just
fell in and I mean people donated, engaged.

Speaker 7 (42:11):
Stuff and it was a great success. We had about
about eighty bikes.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
I think we had ninety registered members and the registered
bikes and.

Speaker 7 (42:23):
Had about twelve cars. We would by anybody if you
want to drive something you could drive.

Speaker 15 (42:28):
That's a great starting line for the eventual Terry Winguard Foundation.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
All of them have them moments and they need help.

Speaker 16 (42:37):
What this foundation is going to try to do is
pitch in and help the families with any.

Speaker 7 (42:43):
Need that they may need.

Speaker 15 (42:44):
And that's a message the Blue Knights can ride or
die with as they raise money for the community and
support each other.

Speaker 7 (42:50):
It's just a brotherhood that.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
We can, you know, call and check on each other,
and you know vent you know, we're just a kind
of a close group men and women, you know, brothers
and sisters and law enforcement.

Speaker 15 (43:03):
In White Hall.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Hey, man's listen, you got that just I don't know
why I was sitting here while I was watching this clip.
The only thing I could think of while I was
watching this clip, and it's probably gonna be totally nothing
what you might think I might say, But I was
just sitting there thinking. I was like, man, while I'm

(43:30):
listening to these guys and they doing all this, I'm thinking.

Speaker 7 (43:32):
Man, what if?

Speaker 4 (43:34):
What if?

Speaker 3 (43:34):
What if somebody just roll up on them and say, Man,
we don't need them colors from you, dude, with all
this law or stuff, we're gonna need you to come
up out them colors. How are they gonna have themselves?

Speaker 8 (43:48):
Then?

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Man, That's the only thing I was thinking about while
I was watching that clip. I'm laughing in my head
trying to keep it in. I'm like, man, what if
a guy roll up and check them.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
About the Blue Knights are old organization.

Speaker 17 (44:04):
The whole beauty of it, that's the whole beauty because
they cops and they want to be bikers, and the
bikers come and say, listen, man, we ain't listen, we
ain't feeling all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Man, you have to pull them colors to walk. That's
the only think I was thinking while I was watching that.
I'm sitting there looking like he's sitting down. What they're
gonna do? They cops, right, that's yeah, they got a badge,
But how are they gonna explain the flip side of
a cop when it comes down to being question, why

(44:37):
didn't y'all just give them up? Or if the cops
gonna take the cop, you know, not become cops for
that moment, stand on the stand on their own as bikers.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
I mean, I'm just thinking about the accusation. That has
definitely been the accusation, especially when you think about the
UH Iron Order, which is not a cop club. They'll
tell you, heartbeat, we're not a cop club. We just
do not regulate our membership. So we have had cops
in us UH. But they first came out, folks would
call them a cop club, and they had a lot

(45:10):
of cops and corrections officers and stuff, and and when
they were pressed on, of course this was not an
l E. MC. But when they were pressed on, they
did fight back. I mean that they absolutely did kill
a couple of one percent, most notably UH. And no
charges are pressed against them. So this is part of

(45:31):
a lot of the things that comes out about UH.
And then Unsure as I know, have had various run
ends and UH. And then there was a group of
cops that beat up pagans. I can't remember if they
were in the motorcycle club or not, up in a bar.
So this is these it's would come out. And one
of the biggest things that that one and other motorcycle

(45:54):
clubs have against them is they say that a lot
of times these guys act like their bikers one percent
is even at night and in the daytime they're arresting
people for doing the same things that that that they
do themselves. These are some of the accusations that have
been leveled against them. But I got to spend some
time with this. This particular law enforcement motorcycle club, the

(46:18):
Blue Knights, which is one of the largest clubs in
the world at that time, they had sixteen thousand members worldwide.
They're all over the world club and I think they
like nineteen seventy three. And I tell you something, they
need this, They need this kind of stuff. I got

(46:39):
to spend some time with them, and I heard their
war stories. They need, they need their brotherhood. And I
would rather them be in an L E. MC where
they can be with one another. That would be good
for them. I wouldn't want my police officer to be
part of the local club that came in took my

(47:00):
colors last week.

Speaker 7 (47:02):
Now, who do who do I call for help?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
If so, I think that they should have their own
things and and they don't. But I don't know how
they would handle that if somebody, but who would be
stupid enough.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
I like the fire I like the fire I like
the I like the axe man better. I like the
firefighters better.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
The first responder clubs are called well I just I mean.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
And the reason I say I like the firefighters better
because they will come out to bight clubs.

Speaker 8 (47:40):
Wait a minute, you got cops out of the fight clubs.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
No, no, no, no, don't stops listen. You got cops
that are in motorcycle clubs that come out I'm speaking
on these cop clubs. You had a firefighter that the
firefighter clubs. The axe Men clubs, they do participate and

(48:05):
I'm not even speaking on doing stuff in trouble or anything,
but they do support and they do come out to
motorcycle clubs. And then you have the bike clubs that
will go out to the axe Men and party and
patronize with them as well. And then when you ask
one of these cops, they won't show up. Oh, we

(48:27):
don't do that. We can't go around that kind of stuff.
We don't want to do do this and do that.
So I like the ax Men, Like we got an
ax Man chapter in Detroit and every year you got
some money.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
In the comments, Crypto says he rides with the ax Men.
Vare mother chapters in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Oh okay, well he's I'm sure he's been here. You
get the axe Men. They and I'm only speaking on Detroit.
Every year they have like they have a blessing of
the bike and they have it at their clubhouse, and
you get bikers from all over and from different clubs

(49:06):
that come out and support the action Men. We have
these law enforcement clubs that they want to show up
when it comes down to a cop funeral. They want
to hang out at certain places, but then they act
like they're too good to patronize with bikers, with real
bikers and bike clubs, but then they want to do

(49:28):
the same bike type of activities, work colors. And then
you get the law enforcement people that want to call
out on the bike clubs when it comes to to
support some type of community event.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Well, now, let's just be serious though, I think they
don't come out because they they're not welcome. I mean,
how many clubs are going to let a l EMC
come hang out at the party?

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Well, okay, let's not even say at the club house.
It's a lot of bike activities that go on and
it does not necessarily always have to be at a
motorcycle club. You have bike nights that go on throughout
the city. Where are they? You have bike rides that
go on throughout the city. You got memorial rides that
go out, but that go on throughout the city. You

(50:15):
won't see them, but you'll see some axmen there.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Faithfully, Hey one down, says Levish, thank you for the
shout out to the axe men. My boy Scott was
the president. His funeral is tomorrow on Riverside. So we
send honor and respect and our deepest contolence is here
from the show an Motorcycle Club Nation, and we're very

(50:40):
sorry for your loss. Is there a one percent first
Responder club?

Speaker 3 (50:45):
No, that's some stuff. Black Dragon just said, I.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Don't think so. And there's no way that that that
they would be allowed to put one percenters on them.
You guys remember what happened to the Outlaws who were
firemen down in Florida and got fired from the fire
department just because they were one percenters. I don't remember
whether or not they won their cases to be reinstated,

(51:13):
but they were definitely One was like a fire captain
and stuff man.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
He attended the Hard Riders event. That's where he maybe
absolutely is motal got to a cop or he's just
in a law.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
For I don't know if he's a cop or not,
but he is definitely an LAMC and he says they
won't let us, Uh, they won't attend some motorcycle events.
Is they are not allowed to associate or mingle with
omcs and one percenters, which seems counter yeah, counterproductive to me.

Speaker 11 (51:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
He said he went to the Hard Riders event and
that's where he met you.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Yeah, that's where he maybe and he had a ball,
he had a bull.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
And somebody told me to check my text messages. Let's see. Okay,
let me do this. Let me pull this up on
my computer real quick. Hold on one second. This is
coming from one down. Let me download this. And did
we lose somebody? I just heard a click? Oh logic,

(52:26):
he's back. Okay, all right, let me pull this up
for you guys, real quick action. All right, So uh.

Speaker 7 (52:39):
I was.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Okay. This is the funeral service for City of Riverside
Battalion Chief Scott Wilson. It is with profound sadness at
the City of Riverdale Fire Department and the Riverside City
Firefighters Association Local Ones zero six seven announced the passing

(53:03):
of one of our own battalion chiefs. Scott Wilson passed
away on October eleventh, twenty twenty five. Scott served the
City of Riverside for thirty two years with courage, honor,
and dedication. Starting as a volunteer firefighter at just eighteen
years old, he built a lifelong career in service. He

(53:24):
specialized in truck operations, technical rescue, wildland firefighting, and safety
officer Roles. A proud member of FEMA's CAA TF six,
he responded to numerous national disasters on the front lines.
Chief Wilson was a respected husband, father, leader, mentor, and

(53:47):
friend who valued teamwork, laughter, and service to others. His
impact on the fire service, his colleagues, and his community
will never be forgotten. Chief Wilson is by his wife
of twenty one years, Jennifer Wilson, and five sons, Jacob, Joshua, Alex,
Christian and Joseph, who are the pride of his life.

(54:10):
He will be deeply missed by his family, friends, and
the entire Riverside Fire Department. His celebration of his life
will be Thursday, October the thirtieth, that's Tomorrow, twenty twenty five,
at eleven am. Please arrive by nine am at the
Grove Community Church one nine to nine zero zero Grow

(54:30):
Community Drive, Riverside, California, nine to five zero eight. Information
on the live streaming of the services and the procession
route will be shared online on the City of Riverside
Fire Department social media accounts give butter, dot com, forward
slash BC Wilson. He certainly did look sharp in his uniforms.

(54:55):
Firefighter uniform and it is absolutely with sadness. It seems
that he was the president of the of at least
the chapter maybe of axe Men Firefighters.

Speaker 16 (55:10):
So we are.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Very sad for that ax Men R three piece but
not one percenter says one down. So that's that's what's
going on with that. H always man, always hate to.

(55:36):
I always hate to, you know here, things like that.
Always very sad that it's when we lose these brothers. Man,
that's the one sad part about having these big ass
brotherhoods and getting into all these people from all over
the country is when we lose them, it just hurts

(55:58):
so bad. Okay, we are at fifty six minutes, so
I was going to go into the last story, but
I think we're I think we're very short on time.
But I did want to say it briefly. We did

(56:19):
a TikTok yesterday on women who get on strangers motorcycles. Yeah,
but if you're new to the set hanging out with
a social club or something like that, one of the

(56:41):
coolest things to do that you're going to want to
do most of you anyway, is you're going to want
to ride on the back of some brothers motorcycle. The
thing about that is, oh, that that's a great thing
to do.

Speaker 18 (56:56):
It might not always be a good idea in certain circumstances,
like in the middle of the night at an annual
when you get on the back of a bike with
some idiot that's been drinking.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Look, I told you yesterday you come with your girls,
you leave with your girls. I also should have stayed
said you stay with your girls as well.

Speaker 18 (57:18):
Some cool Debonair looking guy on the set pulls up
and you're having a wonderful conversation and you say something like, gee,
I've always wanted to ride a motorcycle. He says, baby, girl,
I got you. You can ride my motorcycle. I'll give
you a ride, and so off you go. The first

(57:42):
red flag should be he doesn't have a helmet for you.
He doesn't have a helmet that'll fit your hairstyle, hasn't
thought about that, didn't plan to have a rider. That's okay,
you can get on the back of my motorcycle without
a helmet.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Nobody'll know. The second red flag is when he lets
you get on the back of his motorcycle wearing those
stilettos or sandals or tennis shoes. Man, oh man, that
should be the second red flag, but you don't know that.
And that's something about immature dudes on motorcycles. Just got

(58:20):
your license not long ago, can't even ride yourself, but
you want to put a passenger on the back of
your motorcycle, and oh yeah, you gotta make that passenger
scared for some reason. She's got to feel the thrill.
So you're gonna pop that clutch revet, depending on how
hold he is. Now, if he's an older guy, he

(58:41):
might just snap your head back. If he's a younger guy, damn,
he's gonna want to do a wheelie, throw a little
alcohol in the mix, and uh, maybe some gravel on
the road. You in that beautiful, nice short dress showing
them pretty ass legs, and that fat ass will be
for them to be eternally scarred because that road rash,

(59:06):
of that asphalt tearing that ass up, it ain't pretty.
In fact, it's rather ugly. You can probably find some
sisters to show you their scars. God help you. If
his paperwork ain't right. Police get behind you and he
decides he wants to run.

Speaker 18 (59:27):
Now you've got the E class ticket and you didn't
even know you were in for a roller coaster rye. Now,
no helmet, no proper clothing and not prepared, oh my goodness,
with no right shoes on. Should you have a wreck
and lose your toes or your feet or scrape your

(59:49):
shinbone off?

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Yeah? And this all could have been avoided by not
fucking around on a stranger's motorcycle. The bottom line is,
you don't pick an annual in the middle of the
night to go for your first bike ride. Ever, that's
not what you do. And you damn sure don't get

(01:00:11):
on the bike with a stranger. You don't think about
asking things like how long you've been riding, or do
you have a motorcycle license, I mean an an m
endorsement on your motorcycle license, or have you ever ridden
a passenger before? You don't think to ask those kinds
of questions because well, that would be That would be rude,

(01:00:33):
wouldn't it. What's rude, it's not asking those questions at all. Now, listen,
if you're hanging out in a social club and you're
brand new to this, those ladies will know someone that
can give you a ride in that daytime. When you
got the proper gear and clothing on, and everything is Capeche.

(01:00:56):
Everything is good. Everything is everything. Some dude and crawling
on the back of his motorcycle, some stranger from some
club that you don't know shit about, racing off into
the darkness for your first motorcycle ride. Well, ladies, it
could be your last. Go me be your favorite right now,

(01:01:17):
right now, go look up the road, rash Queen and
see what happened to a girl in the UK that
climbed on the back of some idiot's motorcycle. Roade rass Queen.
It happened maybe ten or twenty years ago, but it's
a lesson that all should learn, you know what I mean? Capeche.

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Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
That wasn't the real That was a segment. That was
the whole segment. Hey, hey, man, the first time you
got on the back of a bike, did you ask
those questions?

Speaker 8 (01:02:14):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
You've been on the back of a bike, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:02:23):
He Oh my god, he ran right into that bright.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
On the back of the bike. Kids can get on
the back of the but I got the man. Listen, man,
I'm just I just asked the question, and you asked
the first time you got riding since I've been on
most since I was five years old. You can't. You
can't do that on a kid. I'm sorry. No, I
hear you. You can't put that on a kid. Nope, No,

(01:02:54):
it was dirty though. It was a dirty trick.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Hey, man, listen, I just asked the question. Man, Now
you going explain and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:03:03):
I just want.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Did you ask those questions?

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Yeah, you've just ruined my rib I got to explain. Uh,
that's how we used to go fishing in Myrtle Beach bike.
We pull up on a batty walking, tell her hop on,
that's your date for the day.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
How it goes, Yeah, that's how it goes. If you
got just five bikers and you see five girls, yeah,
well y'all roll with us. Actually it'd be six girls.
Is one of them in a car more than likely?
Or they walking down the strip on Ocean Boulevard.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
In bikinis with no shoes on. Yeah, and they get
on the back of the bike. I carry clothes, shoes,
and a helmet for the girls. But if they don't fit,
they don't ride. Somebody, at least somebody. I have rode
women in sun dresses on my fender ver sid back
when fenders would hold people. When a woman asked me

(01:04:03):
to ride, I tell them I ride my ride and
you're ready and you're not ready to ride? The cash
tank out when I ride, I ride. Uh yeah, man,
So some of these people understand uhas got him? Got him?
Lavish Lavish had a good one. I don't ride. I had.

Speaker 8 (01:04:27):
I had someone before I bought the road Line saw
and she was a plus slight bus size lady.

Speaker 9 (01:04:35):
And I was on the b ride and she saw
me at the park and she says, can I get
on your bike and ride? And I said, no, I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:04:46):
I don't because, like you said in your video, we
can barely, we can barely lavish a little, but.

Speaker 7 (01:04:54):
Yeah we u.

Speaker 9 (01:04:55):
But like you said, I was barely riding a new
I was a new I wasn't.

Speaker 8 (01:05:01):
I barely put my wife on the back of that bike,
let her know, and put a stranger on the back
of my bike.

Speaker 9 (01:05:07):
And you don't know how they're gonna move. You don't know,
you don't know their intentions. I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:05:11):
You you ain't get Hey if I was in my car.
If I don't know, you ain't getting in my car,
so ain't getting on my bike.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Listen, I got a weight living on my motorcycle. I've
been had. I had a weight limit since I was
on a cross rocket because people remember that, man, when
they see you. I like the fact when people, especially
when I was on my rockets, when they used to
see me, Oh man, that was a bat you had
your nice one on the back of them, like man, dog,

(01:05:37):
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 19 (01:05:38):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
I don't want somebody like, man, what did you have
on the back of that bike? Because I've seen guys,
my homies on the rockets with them big girls on
there making that bike look small.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
What the world is going up? Have a baddie on
the back, bro, that's your reputation. You can't have no
bloo Marilla on your bike.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Bro, Man, you got you a nice one because then
it sets up the tone so the other women know
if you ain't laying like this, don't even come my way.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Yeah, and you need to be dressed. I want, I want,
I want everybody to see the things that I saw
when I asked.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
You, because on that cross rocket I'm definitely hitting that
front break in traffic slow. I need all that bouncing.
You need all of them, or bounce to the outs.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Never mind, Sorry preacher, he just shaking his head at you, Levis.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
I'm just being honest. Cross Rocket days before social media,
all we had was the next tail chirps. So we
had to pull up on a girl to holler at
her and traffic and it was man, listen, man. I
used to be on Jefferson and Detroit. Man coming from
the lout the records to the gas station, and all
you had to do is pull up and if it's

(01:06:50):
a car full of chicks, hey, where you going? Oh
we wanted to go to the aisle. That's the part
and come on, hop on the back of the bike.
They'll jump out the car, get on the bike. It
was oh man, those were the days.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
All right, that's it for the broadcast today. Anything you
guys got you want to put out lavish reliving.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
I'm thinking back. I'm thinking back about the late nineties,
early two thousands. Man, you know what I'm saying. I'm
thinking about being on Cross Rits clept up traffic over Jefferson.
I'm thinking about going from Park te Bella racing on
ninety six all the way till we got down to
the lodge, well seventy five to the lodge and came up.

(01:07:38):
Oh man, yeah, that's what I'm thinking about. I'm thinking
about back when we used to be at the park
after dark before they started just ten o'clock, just ten
o'clock stuff. We used to be, you know, one o'clock
in the morning on the strip.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Yeah, they shut down the parks. We used to be
in all night long and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Then lead to go to Scandaler Park. That's if you're
from Detroit, you know what I'm talking about. I used
to love it over there. That's the first place I
see the police racing guys in a police car.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
There wasn't no cameras and all that stuff. You can
be you can be over there at chat Apart and
you'll see a cop racing another dude in the car
side by side.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Oh wow. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Yeah, man, oh shit, those were the days.

Speaker 9 (01:08:28):
Man, I can't speak about those days.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
We used to post up at the party store, used
to be over on Charmers and Shoemaker. If you're from Detroit,
you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 11 (01:08:37):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
But all right, yeah, that's all I got to say, man,
because he remembers Man, that was a hell of a
time to be cool man. When I was a Boogie
Down member, we had a breakout right and Detroit. One
of the bros had a girl so big on his bike.
No one was able to see the bro driving the bike.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
That was very possible, freaking possible.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Dave says, he carries a purse Cinderella chaps in my
saddle bags. If you can wear them, you can come
for a ride. Uh about ninety eight, ninety nine to
the two thousands. Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
That was when you listen all you had to do.
How people got road rage. We didn't have road rage.
We wanted to be in the traffic. We want to
go nowhere. We wanted to be in the traffic. We'll
get out the car in traffic to go run up
to another car to talk to people.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
They don't know nothing about Fred Rutgers. That was the fine.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
If you listen, it didn't matter where you were at
what you was going. At the end of the day,
if you needed to figure out where, everybody would say,
I go down the flood records, especially on a Wednesday night, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Well, what's flud Ruckers doing.

Speaker 19 (01:09:53):
Now it's a freaking health clinic. Now it's a concentra
of some crap.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Like that concentra that sounds bad.

Speaker 19 (01:10:09):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
That was one of the days, man, everybody would be
out there, man, and it was it was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
It was all love.

Speaker 8 (01:10:17):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
I I wish we could do a fun workers reunion.
You had all the cars, all the bikes, all the
girls that was there. Oh man, all the cool people
that was there.

Speaker 15 (01:10:28):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Well, okay, going back down.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Memory lane of yeah, nowhere a mile.

Speaker 9 (01:10:38):
I cannot add anything to this conversation, lady.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
I'm just saying, man, that was that was where it
was that you had. The girls, got to pull up,
you be up to fud workers eating.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
It kind of reminds you of a modern day American graffiti.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Mm hmmm mmmm. Okay, Well, uh, you're running for district. Yeah,
we should know whether you are a congressman or not.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
Here in a congressman, commissioner, Man, we got less than
a week. Less than a week, okay, commissioner, Yeah, let's
let's let's than a week. So hopefully one week from
today I'll be on the podcast or what I wanted I.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Want it, like, what are your first thirty days in office?
What are you going to change?

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
I'm not going to do anything nothing, I'm gonna change anything. Okay,
I'm not a dumb un description about changing anything.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Well, we want to know you know how you're going
to change the police department to make it better for
us as we're rolling through on our motorcycles.

Speaker 20 (01:11:51):
Oh yeah, I have no idea, man, Stop asking. Stop
asking pusses. Brother, that's like a debate.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
So because because he said talking about the baddest women
in the city and beat down there, man, do you
remember Captains the River Rock Franklin b C's Come on, man,
do you remember your leafer regised to go to Timbo's. Okay,
all right, I'm do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
I got to talk up to the trait people about
this because and I got to talk to the traite
people about this. Man. Kimo says, I hope one day
to get to meet you down there in the d
I'm from Flint, but I always been down there. You
ain't lying that was a spot. That's the spot.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
I'll be up in Flint too, man. We got a
clubhouse on fire Road.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Did Flint ever get his water situation handled?

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
I'm from Detroit. Man, I can't tell you that because
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
That's the first time I ever heard of Flint, Michigan. Well,
actually I heard of Flint when I was in college.
There was this guy, this, oh my goodness, this fat guy.
What he used to do videos about Flint. He was
a He's a Democrat guy, right wing, I mean, a
left wing liberal. What was his name?

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
I don't know, man, but I know I know some
guys over there Pierson Hood, posse. I come up on
Pierson Road.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
A girl from that's where your girl, the boxer girl
is from from Flint. Yeah, from Yeah, with her cute self.
She she uh, she definitely from Flint. She'll cut some
more foe out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
In the heartbeat, Richard said, Lavish, what's up with all
those shootings? I don't know. I stay away, stay away.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Lavish, what's up on all those shootings? East side? Okay,
let's get out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Hey man, I'm out of here.

Speaker 11 (01:13:39):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
That's been one week for one week before election day.
Vote for Lavish people for District two police commissioner.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Whoo, I'm out of here, man, All right, young man,
have a great thing, all right, Preacher.

Speaker 9 (01:13:53):
Hey, I can't follow that up, bro, I can you know?
You go back?

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Oh you know what, preacher, we got something, but we
got something in. Uh, we got a picture in from
Gado about you, about me. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:14:14):
God, look at this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
That sponge.

Speaker 8 (01:14:23):
I'll have fun with that. That's all right, that's all good,
love y'all. Look, spongebook. SpongeBob was my son's favorite cartoon
to when he's growing up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
But I don't know how you're gonna love that spunge
thing down. Bro.

Speaker 9 (01:14:37):
Hey, I ain't trying, bro. Go ahead, that fun.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Bro, it's you. It's time to go.

Speaker 8 (01:14:44):
Oh, you're gonna lead a picture up to right. Look, y'all,
what's up y'all? This is your boy logic over here?
Keep it logical. Look, I love all y'all. I love
all the jokes and everything. As long as we look.
When we joking on each other, we're having fun and
being happy. We're not out there trying to harm each other,

(01:15:05):
you know what I'm saying. So look, while my boy
Lavish is over, I'm gonna put this plug in. My
boy Lavish is running for a police commissioner. I got
a homeboy I grew up with in high school up
there in Syracuse, New York.

Speaker 9 (01:15:17):
He's running for mayor.

Speaker 8 (01:15:18):
Y'all go out there and if you're up in Syracuse
and y'all see this podcast, y'all go ahead vote for
our boy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Finals.

Speaker 8 (01:15:24):
So y'all know he from the South Side, y'all, y'all
know what's up. I know, booking down breaks. Then he
went to the south side. Grandfather lived down street for me.
But anyway, y'all vote fall finals of Davis Mayor, Syracuse,
New York. Listen, when you're out there riding, remember this
before you put somebody on the back of your bike
you don't know, ride hard, make sure you ride safe
and always always ride on faith and keep it logical.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Peace, Peace, and its your boy Black Dragon. Hey man,
you guys, have a great night, great evening, great day.
Weekend's coming. Hey, that first is coming and have a
very shay thirty first and we'll see guys tomorrow, same backtime,
same BT channel. I'm Black Dragon. That's my two cents
of the two cents in the conversation below. Hey, I

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