November 27, 2025 • 18 mins
According to the anonymous former friend quoted in a detailed profile of Maxwell, Maxwell treated the girls she procured for Jeffrey Epstein as disposable objects — using language that reduced them to commodities rather than human beings. As reported in one long-form investigation, Maxwell reportedly said of underage girls, “they’re nothing, these girls … they are trash.” The friend claimed these girls were viewed as playthings: something to be consumed, used, and discarded at will, like “candy.” Maxwell’s alleged jaded, detached attitude toward the girls — calling them “trash” — marked a deliberate dehumanization: she allegedly saw them not as people with dignity but as instruments for gratification, social leverage, and profit.
This alleged mindset — of treating victims as candy — suggests Maxwell not just facilitated exploitation but psychologically conditioned both herself and her circle to view the girls as disposable. According to the former friend’s account, Maxwell emphasized that underage girls were easy, replaceable, and worth exalting only until Epstein or someone else no longer needed them. That callousality supposedly underpinned the operations: grooming, trafficking, and abuse carried out without empathy or remorse, stripping victims of their agency and humanity. Under this framing, victims were not people — they were objects to be used and discarded — which underscores why many survivors and observers view Maxwell as more directly culpable than just an enabler: she was an enabler who actively internalized and imposed dehumanizing rationales for exploitation.
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This alleged mindset — of treating victims as candy — suggests Maxwell not just facilitated exploitation but psychologically conditioned both herself and her circle to view the girls as disposable. According to the former friend’s account, Maxwell emphasized that underage girls were easy, replaceable, and worth exalting only until Epstein or someone else no longer needed them. That callousality supposedly underpinned the operations: grooming, trafficking, and abuse carried out without empathy or remorse, stripping victims of their agency and humanity. Under this framing, victims were not people — they were objects to be used and discarded — which underscores why many survivors and observers view Maxwell as more directly culpable than just an enabler: she was an enabler who actively internalized and imposed dehumanizing rationales for exploitation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's jump into our article, shall we. Today we have
an article from the Toronto Son and this article is
touching on a bit about Gilaine Maxwell's, you know, personal
relationships with said person in this article. Now, the person
wanted to remain unnamed because they have spoken with the
(00:23):
FBI already. So this is a source that the Toronto
Son has gotten with and talked to about Gilaine Maxwell.
So let's dive into this article from the Toronto Son
authored by Brad Hunter, and let's see what they have
(00:43):
to say about Gilaane Maxwell. Headline, Gilaine Maxwell said girls
are like candy pala ledges. Yeah, that's not creep, creeper
or anything, right. I mean, Gilainne Maxwell is walking and
talking cringe machine. Every time I hear something that this
(01:05):
lady has said or allegedly said in confidence to people,
it's nauseating that there are people like this amongst us
folks walking around and you know, sharing our error and
conducting their day to day in our vicinity is a
bit disturbing. Now, we know that there's a bunch of
(01:29):
sick people amongst us, right, but when you look at
the so called elite and you get the spotlight shining
on them. It is very apparent, at least to me,
that a vast majority of these people are at the
very least fellow travelers with Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, once
you get to that level of power, that level of money,
(01:52):
what gets you off? Right? Normal people like you and
I we go gamble, we get excited, get the adrenaline flowing,
you know, buy a new car, we're fired up, you know,
things like that. But what gets the adrenaline going for
these so called elite with all of this money, seems
to be using power over the powerless is what gets
(02:17):
these people off. Gilain Maxwell looks like she's been chiseled
from a block of ice. That's true with gray hair.
Though right now she has some gray hair. She can't
go to Frederick Facaie to touch up her roots right now,
so she's gonna have to rock with that gray hair,
(02:37):
like she's chiseled from ice. A little bit of a
bruise underneath her eye looks like she fell asleep with
her glasses on to me though, right, I mean, how
else did she get that bruise? Nobody beat her up
in jail, no guards hit her, None of that stuff occurred.
Stop it. So with self inflicted allergies or fell asleep
with their glasses on, rubbed her eye too hard. Well,
(03:00):
maybe she punched herself in the face, who knows, but
certainly there was nobody else that gave her that black eye.
There is, we'd have the video on it, right. So,
I don't even understand what her lawyers are alleging. They're
saying it's from the light, what what And if her
(03:25):
demeanor is any indication the inside matches the outside. According
to a former friend who has known the disgraced socialite
for years, socialite co conspirator, general all around scusbag allegedly
fellow child abuse her and bib Udle Serpent. Today, the
former paramore of billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is cooling her
(03:48):
jets in a Brooklyn jail while she awaits her July
trial on sex trafficking charges. Yeah, I wouldn't say she's
cooling her jets there, mister brad Hunter. I'd say she
a bit fired up. Well, I mean, just take a
look at all of the motions that her team has filed,
(04:08):
and you see that Gilain Maxwell is throwing every single
piece of doo doo at the wall, hoping some of
it will stick. But what she has not presented us,
the Ice Queen, she has not presented us with any evidence,
(04:29):
not even a little bit to prove her side of
this story, not even one little bit of evidence. So
they can have all the websites they want. They can
have certain publications run puff pieces for them, They can
have disgrace journalists who thought that that stupid ass tape
(04:54):
from the dude in Russia was real. They can have
them help them out whatever it might be. But at
the end of the day, all of this shit my winging,
my opinion, they're not None of it's going to matter, folks,
because that trial is coming, Okay, and then when that
trial comes and all the cards are.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Building on decades of research, longevity expert Dan Buttner has
gathered one hundred recipes to help you live to one hundred.
The recipes are inspired by the Blue Zones, where the
healthiest and happiest communities are located. Each dish, like Sardinian
herbed lentilman Aestroni, uses ingredients and cooking methods proven to
increase longevity, wellness, and mental health. Blue Zones Kitchen available wherever.
(05:37):
Books are sold.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
On the table we'll see what's what. And I have
a sneaking suspicion that team Maxwell is not going to
come out of this looking good at all. Maxwell is
pleaded not guilty, and none of the charges have been
proven in court. Well, uh yeah, that's how this works usually, right,
(06:03):
you know, allegations, investigation, trialed, and then conviction. Okay, that's
how it works. Nobody's saying she's been proven guilty. I'm
certainly not. Anyway, the process has to play itself out.
Unfortunately for her, the circumstantial evidence is everest high. And
(06:29):
unfortunately for her, she is what you call a public figure.
When you're a public figure, this is what happens. Your
life gets played out in the headlines, especially if you're
involved in you know, human trafficking. Yeah, people might talk
about you a little bit, okay, and that's what's going
on here. But unlike other cases that are happening in
(06:52):
real time where we don't have all of the years
of evidence in court documentation, this case has a solid
foundation of evidence to follow from the beginning all the
way through to the destination and for you to actually
bite in deep and get a mouthful as opposed to
(07:14):
he said, she said that you see going on in
these newer cases. Right, we have court documents here, we
have tons of witness statements here, and we have decades
and decades of not only investigations by well some of
the media, but by the authorities themselves. So this is
(07:34):
a very unique case in that regard. Very rarely do
we have all of this evidence and all of this
groundwork already set up for us when there's a case
to dive into. Usually there's all kinds of things going
on in real time. Right, you don't know what's real,
what's not. Nothing's been vetted yet, a lot of stuff
is you know, hard to track down, and then of
(07:56):
course you have to unfortunately taken to mind that is
this a political hit piece? Is this a hit job?
Who is this person's enemies? So all of that stuff
comes into play when you're looking at one of these
newer cases with Maxwell and Epstein. However, none of that matters.
This is all documented. This is all stuff that has
(08:19):
been put down in court documents, has been put down
on the public record in defamation cases. So this is
a lot different than you know, something like a top
mom was right with Nancy Grace and all of that
stuff I stay away from that. You'll never hear me
dive into any of that kind of stuff, folks, because
we just don't have enough to go on, right, we
(08:40):
don't have enough to go on. But this case, oh
there's enough to go on. What are we over a
thousand articles in by now? Plenty to go on here, folks.
A wealthy California woman said she met Maxwell at a
gala in two thousand and four at our Los Angeles
area home and they became fast friends. Now again, take
(09:02):
this with a grain of salt, right, we don't know this.
This is an anonymous source talking to the Toronto's son.
So again, i'm you know, with anonymous sources, I am
hesitant in some cases to you know, buy in one
hundred percent what they have to say. But when we're
talking about situations such as these, I feel like, when
(09:26):
it's reported, we have to talk about it, right Because
this person, according to her, has spoken with the FBI
already as well. So if that's the case, then she's
more than likely a legit source. My first impression was
that she was very intelligent and very charismatic. She knows
(09:49):
what to say. The woman who asked her remain anonymous.
Because she has spoken to the FBI about the Maxwell case.
Told the Toronto Son So this lady says she I
became real good friends with Maxwell in two thousand and
four at a gala at her Los Angeles based home,
and according to her, Gilaine Maxwell is not a very
(10:10):
good person folks. Right. So what this does is it
just adds on to what we already know, more of
a character assessment for Gilain Maxwell, just to add to
the catalog of what we already know about her being
a terrible human being. She revealed that Maxwell was drawn
(10:31):
to the wealthy like a moth to a flame. Yeah,
no shit. That she had to get that compromise, right.
She had to make sure that she was getting that
information and they were getting the stuff that they were
looking to get from these wealthy people. See, it didn't
just happen in a vacuum. It wasn't just all about
the money, right, It was about the information. Remember, when
(10:51):
you're at this level of wealth and you have this
kind of dough information is invaluable to you. You fabricate
a hook on one of your enemies and forget it.
Now you have them dancing to your song and dance
trying to get this woman was worse than Jeffrey Epstein.
She had no conscience. I wondered about a lot of
(11:12):
things with her sometimes, the woman said, adding that Maxwell
was hyper sexual. I'm look again, there are a lot
of people who have come forward and given this exact
description of who Maxwell is, of what she was, and
how she conducted herself. As far as her being hyper sexual,
I don't care about that, right. It doesn't matter to me.
(11:36):
What you do in your bedroom with consenting adults, not
my business. If you want to be somebody who wants
to have a ton of sex in their life, hey
go for it. I don't care none my business. Whatever
you people want to do in your bedroom, I support
one hundred percent as long as it's with consenting adults.
(11:58):
That's the only rule in my life. When it comes
to love or you know, lust or whatever it is
consenting adults. Besides that, man, it's nobody's business what folks
do in their bedroom. Maybe if people would focus on
their own lives and their own bedrooms, hint, hint, they
wouldn't be so worried about other people's right. But there
(12:22):
are a lot of people who are I don't understand
where they get the time for it. Some nosey ass
mfs on this planet, folks. She told me she could
get into anybody's pants, that girls are like candy, talk
about gross. And when she says girls, we know Gilay
Maxwell's talking about girls, right, She doesn't mean twenty six,
(12:45):
twenty seven year old women. She's talking about girls New Biles,
as it were. And to think that anyone's defending this woman,
including her family, with all we.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Know, I just.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It doesn't register with me, honestly. These were the days
before Epstein was arrested in Florida on an underage prostitution beef.
I visited her place on East sixty fifth Street in
New York and at Jeff's place, and we flew together
several times. The woman said, oh, did you what did
you see on those planes, young lady. So I'm glad that,
(13:24):
according to this lady, she's speaking with the FBI and
talking to them about what she saw with Epstein and Maxwell.
And if that's the case and she really is speaking
with them, I wonder how many other people have come
forward to do the same thing that we don't know about. Remember,
there's a lot going on behind the scenes folks that
we are not privy to. But it didn't take long
(13:47):
for her to start noticing disturbing things unfolding in the
Maxwell Epstein orbit. She said that Maxwell was attracted to
both men and women and sincerely hoped she would one
day marry Creepy. Epstein were obsessed with social standing and
even had rankings. So according to this lady, they had
rankings as if you or I were ranking athletes or
(14:09):
the best bars to go to, and that's how they
would rank the social standings around them, the people around them.
As far as Gilain Maxwell liking women as well as men,
we know that according to the information we have, we
know that that's something that's certainly on the table. So look,
(14:34):
how many more people are gonna come out of the
woodwork as we get closer to the trial? You know,
I said, how it's like a damn right, first stars
a crack, a little bit of water starts coming out,
and then it bursts. And I think we're seeing that now, folks.
I think we're seeing the burst phase. As more people
come forward and speak on what they know, I think
that we'll see even more of it. Even there were
(14:58):
always half naked young around both Maxwell and Epstein yes,
I saw them and it troubled me. So you're coming
forward now, and that's a good thing. But if it
troubled you, then why didn't you say anything about it?
Then why didn't you go to the authorities? Then? I mean,
I guess it could be because Epstein was, you know,
intimidating and powerful, and people didn't want to upset the
(15:21):
apple cart. But f that, f that, I was born
to upset the apple cart. The woman revealed she has
been questioned by the FBI, but she wishes she had
acted sooner like many others. Well, there you have it.
I feel a burden of guilt for not having done
(15:42):
something sooner, she said. But they Maxwell and Epstein were
a team when it came to sex, money and power,
A very formidable team and the most perverse people I've
ever seen. So again, more people coming out and saying this,
you know. So Maxwell's family can say what they want,
Oscar Marcus can run whatever yapp he wants. The few
(16:03):
publications that are friendly to them can try and spin
it however they want, but the facts don't align. Even today.
The Californian said she remains mind boggled by the extent
of the corruption around the tusome. Now, the fifty nine
year old publishing heiress huh co conspirator general all around
(16:24):
Scusbeg is backed into a desperate corner. If convicted, she
could be in jail for decades. It's a life sentence.
If she's convicted, folks, she's not getting out. She's fifty nine.
She's facing like eighty years and shit, if she goes
up the river, which she certainly should, she's gonna be
in there for the rest of her life. Baloney Sangwich
party for everybody. If it looks like she's going down,
(16:50):
Gilan will make a deal and she'll throw people under
the bus, including Prince Andrew. The former friend explains, Oh, boy,
would I love to see it. I'd love to see
Maxwell turn snitch and start ratting. Boy, that would be fantastic.
Imagine the net that she could throw over some of
(17:11):
these people. I know Gilayne she cares about one person
and one person only, and that's Gilaine Maxwell. Again, folks,
this is from an anonymous source. Person says that she's
spoken to the FBI already, but it certainly fits with
(17:32):
the profile that we already have on Gilaine Maxwell, and
it just plays up the fact of the person that
she is, and anyone who's been paying attention, anybody who's
been following this story already knew that Gilaine Maxwell and
(17:57):
Jeffrey Epstein are, in my estimation at least two of
the most perverse people we have ever come across. If
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Let's jump into our article, shall we. Today we have
an article from the Toronto Son and this article is
touching on a bit about Gilaine Maxwell's, you know, personal
relationships with said person in this article. Now, the person
wanted to remain unnamed because they have spoken with the
(00:23):
FBI already. So this is a source that the Toronto
Son has gotten with and talked to about Gilaine Maxwell.
So let's dive into this article from the Toronto Son
authored by Brad Hunter, and let's see what they have
(00:43):
to say about Gilaane Maxwell. Headline, Gilaine Maxwell said girls
are like candy pala ledges. Yeah, that's not creep, creeper
or anything, right. I mean, Gilainne Maxwell is walking and
talking cringe machine. Every time I hear something that this
(01:05):
lady has said or allegedly said in confidence to people,
it's nauseating that there are people like this amongst us
folks walking around and you know, sharing our error and
conducting their day to day in our vicinity is a
bit disturbing. Now, we know that there's a bunch of
(01:29):
sick people amongst us, right, but when you look at
the so called elite and you get the spotlight shining
on them. It is very apparent, at least to me,
that a vast majority of these people are at the
very least fellow travelers with Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, once
you get to that level of power, that level of money,
(01:52):
what gets you off? Right? Normal people like you and
I we go gamble, we get excited, get the adrenaline flowing,
you know, buy a new car, we're fired up, you know,
things like that. But what gets the adrenaline going for
these so called elite with all of this money, seems
to be using power over the powerless is what gets
(02:17):
these people off. Gilain Maxwell looks like she's been chiseled
from a block of ice. That's true with gray hair.
Though right now she has some gray hair. She can't
go to Frederick Facaie to touch up her roots right now,
so she's gonna have to rock with that gray hair,
(02:37):
like she's chiseled from ice. A little bit of a
bruise underneath her eye looks like she fell asleep with
her glasses on to me though, right, I mean, how
else did she get that bruise? Nobody beat her up
in jail, no guards hit her, None of that stuff occurred.
Stop it. So with self inflicted allergies or fell asleep
with their glasses on, rubbed her eye too hard. Well,
(03:00):
maybe she punched herself in the face, who knows, but
certainly there was nobody else that gave her that black eye.
There is, we'd have the video on it, right. So,
I don't even understand what her lawyers are alleging. They're
saying it's from the light, what what And if her
(03:25):
demeanor is any indication the inside matches the outside. According
to a former friend who has known the disgraced socialite
for years, socialite co conspirator, general all around scusbag allegedly
fellow child abuse her and bib Udle Serpent. Today, the
former paramore of billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is cooling her
(03:48):
jets in a Brooklyn jail while she awaits her July
trial on sex trafficking charges. Yeah, I wouldn't say she's
cooling her jets there, mister brad Hunter. I'd say she
a bit fired up. Well, I mean, just take a
look at all of the motions that her team has filed,
(04:08):
and you see that Gilain Maxwell is throwing every single
piece of doo doo at the wall, hoping some of
it will stick. But what she has not presented us,
the Ice Queen, she has not presented us with any evidence,
(04:29):
not even a little bit to prove her side of
this story, not even one little bit of evidence. So
they can have all the websites they want. They can
have certain publications run puff pieces for them, They can
have disgrace journalists who thought that that stupid ass tape
(04:54):
from the dude in Russia was real. They can have
them help them out whatever it might be. But at
the end of the day, all of this shit my winging,
my opinion, they're not None of it's going to matter, folks,
because that trial is coming, Okay, and then when that
trial comes and all the cards are.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Building on decades of research, longevity expert Dan Buttner has
gathered one hundred recipes to help you live to one hundred.
The recipes are inspired by the Blue Zones, where the
healthiest and happiest communities are located. Each dish, like Sardinian
herbed lentilman Aestroni, uses ingredients and cooking methods proven to
increase longevity, wellness, and mental health. Blue Zones Kitchen available wherever.
(05:37):
Books are sold.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
On the table we'll see what's what. And I have
a sneaking suspicion that team Maxwell is not going to
come out of this looking good at all. Maxwell is
pleaded not guilty, and none of the charges have been
proven in court. Well, uh yeah, that's how this works usually, right,
(06:03):
you know, allegations, investigation, trialed, and then conviction. Okay, that's
how it works. Nobody's saying she's been proven guilty. I'm
certainly not. Anyway, the process has to play itself out.
Unfortunately for her, the circumstantial evidence is everest high. And
(06:29):
unfortunately for her, she is what you call a public figure.
When you're a public figure, this is what happens. Your
life gets played out in the headlines, especially if you're
involved in you know, human trafficking. Yeah, people might talk
about you a little bit, okay, and that's what's going
on here. But unlike other cases that are happening in
(06:52):
real time where we don't have all of the years
of evidence in court documentation, this case has a solid
foundation of evidence to follow from the beginning all the
way through to the destination and for you to actually
bite in deep and get a mouthful as opposed to
(07:14):
he said, she said that you see going on in
these newer cases. Right, we have court documents here, we
have tons of witness statements here, and we have decades
and decades of not only investigations by well some of
the media, but by the authorities themselves. So this is
(07:34):
a very unique case in that regard. Very rarely do
we have all of this evidence and all of this
groundwork already set up for us when there's a case
to dive into. Usually there's all kinds of things going
on in real time. Right, you don't know what's real,
what's not. Nothing's been vetted yet, a lot of stuff
is you know, hard to track down, and then of
(07:56):
course you have to unfortunately taken to mind that is
this a political hit piece? Is this a hit job?
Who is this person's enemies? So all of that stuff
comes into play when you're looking at one of these
newer cases with Maxwell and Epstein. However, none of that matters.
This is all documented. This is all stuff that has
(08:19):
been put down in court documents, has been put down
on the public record in defamation cases. So this is
a lot different than you know, something like a top
mom was right with Nancy Grace and all of that
stuff I stay away from that. You'll never hear me
dive into any of that kind of stuff, folks, because
we just don't have enough to go on, right, we
(08:40):
don't have enough to go on. But this case, oh
there's enough to go on. What are we over a
thousand articles in by now? Plenty to go on here, folks.
A wealthy California woman said she met Maxwell at a
gala in two thousand and four at our Los Angeles
area home and they became fast friends. Now again, take
(09:02):
this with a grain of salt, right, we don't know this.
This is an anonymous source talking to the Toronto's son.
So again, i'm you know, with anonymous sources, I am
hesitant in some cases to you know, buy in one
hundred percent what they have to say. But when we're
talking about situations such as these, I feel like, when
(09:26):
it's reported, we have to talk about it, right Because
this person, according to her, has spoken with the FBI
already as well. So if that's the case, then she's
more than likely a legit source. My first impression was
that she was very intelligent and very charismatic. She knows
(09:49):
what to say. The woman who asked her remain anonymous.
Because she has spoken to the FBI about the Maxwell case.
Told the Toronto Son So this lady says she I
became real good friends with Maxwell in two thousand and
four at a gala at her Los Angeles based home,
and according to her, Gilaine Maxwell is not a very
(10:10):
good person folks. Right. So what this does is it
just adds on to what we already know, more of
a character assessment for Gilain Maxwell, just to add to
the catalog of what we already know about her being
a terrible human being. She revealed that Maxwell was drawn
(10:31):
to the wealthy like a moth to a flame. Yeah,
no shit. That she had to get that compromise, right.
She had to make sure that she was getting that
information and they were getting the stuff that they were
looking to get from these wealthy people. See, it didn't
just happen in a vacuum. It wasn't just all about
the money, right, It was about the information. Remember, when
(10:51):
you're at this level of wealth and you have this
kind of dough information is invaluable to you. You fabricate
a hook on one of your enemies and forget it.
Now you have them dancing to your song and dance
trying to get this woman was worse than Jeffrey Epstein.
She had no conscience. I wondered about a lot of
(11:12):
things with her sometimes, the woman said, adding that Maxwell
was hyper sexual. I'm look again, there are a lot
of people who have come forward and given this exact
description of who Maxwell is, of what she was, and
how she conducted herself. As far as her being hyper sexual,
I don't care about that, right. It doesn't matter to me.
(11:36):
What you do in your bedroom with consenting adults, not
my business. If you want to be somebody who wants
to have a ton of sex in their life, hey
go for it. I don't care none my business. Whatever
you people want to do in your bedroom, I support
one hundred percent as long as it's with consenting adults.
(11:58):
That's the only rule in my life. When it comes
to love or you know, lust or whatever it is
consenting adults. Besides that, man, it's nobody's business what folks
do in their bedroom. Maybe if people would focus on
their own lives and their own bedrooms, hint, hint, they
wouldn't be so worried about other people's right. But there
(12:22):
are a lot of people who are I don't understand
where they get the time for it. Some nosey ass
mfs on this planet, folks. She told me she could
get into anybody's pants, that girls are like candy, talk
about gross. And when she says girls, we know Gilay
Maxwell's talking about girls, right, She doesn't mean twenty six,
(12:45):
twenty seven year old women. She's talking about girls New Biles,
as it were. And to think that anyone's defending this woman,
including her family, with all we.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Know, I just.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It doesn't register with me, honestly. These were the days
before Epstein was arrested in Florida on an underage prostitution beef.
I visited her place on East sixty fifth Street in
New York and at Jeff's place, and we flew together
several times. The woman said, oh, did you what did
you see on those planes, young lady. So I'm glad that,
(13:24):
according to this lady, she's speaking with the FBI and
talking to them about what she saw with Epstein and Maxwell.
And if that's the case and she really is speaking
with them, I wonder how many other people have come
forward to do the same thing that we don't know about. Remember,
there's a lot going on behind the scenes folks that
we are not privy to. But it didn't take long
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for her to start noticing disturbing things unfolding in the
Maxwell Epstein orbit. She said that Maxwell was attracted to
both men and women and sincerely hoped she would one
day marry Creepy. Epstein were obsessed with social standing and
even had rankings. So according to this lady, they had
rankings as if you or I were ranking athletes or
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the best bars to go to, and that's how they
would rank the social standings around them, the people around them.
As far as Gilain Maxwell liking women as well as men,
we know that according to the information we have, we
know that that's something that's certainly on the table. So look,
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how many more people are gonna come out of the
woodwork as we get closer to the trial? You know,
I said, how it's like a damn right, first stars
a crack, a little bit of water starts coming out,
and then it bursts. And I think we're seeing that now, folks.
I think we're seeing the burst phase. As more people
come forward and speak on what they know, I think
that we'll see even more of it. Even there were
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always half naked young around both Maxwell and Epstein yes,
I saw them and it troubled me. So you're coming
forward now, and that's a good thing. But if it
troubled you, then why didn't you say anything about it?
Then why didn't you go to the authorities? Then? I mean,
I guess it could be because Epstein was, you know,
intimidating and powerful, and people didn't want to upset the
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apple cart. But f that, f that, I was born
to upset the apple cart. The woman revealed she has
been questioned by the FBI, but she wishes she had
acted sooner like many others. Well, there you have it.
I feel a burden of guilt for not having done
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something sooner, she said. But they Maxwell and Epstein were
a team when it came to sex, money and power,
A very formidable team and the most perverse people I've
ever seen. So again, more people coming out and saying this,
you know. So Maxwell's family can say what they want,
Oscar Marcus can run whatever yapp he wants. The few
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publications that are friendly to them can try and spin
it however they want, but the facts don't align. Even today.
The Californian said she remains mind boggled by the extent
of the corruption around the tusome. Now, the fifty nine
year old publishing heiress huh co conspirator general all around
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Scusbeg is backed into a desperate corner. If convicted, she
could be in jail for decades. It's a life sentence.
If she's convicted, folks, she's not getting out. She's fifty nine.
She's facing like eighty years and shit, if she goes
up the river, which she certainly should, she's gonna be
in there for the rest of her life. Baloney Sangwich
party for everybody. If it looks like she's going down,
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Gilan will make a deal and she'll throw people under
the bus, including Prince Andrew. The former friend explains, Oh, boy,
would I love to see it. I'd love to see
Maxwell turn snitch and start ratting. Boy, that would be fantastic.
Imagine the net that she could throw over some of
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these people. I know Gilayne she cares about one person
and one person only, and that's Gilaine Maxwell. Again, folks,
this is from an anonymous source. Person says that she's
spoken to the FBI already, but it certainly fits with
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the profile that we already have on Gilaine Maxwell, and
it just plays up the fact of the person that
she is, and anyone who's been paying attention, anybody who's
been following this story already knew that Gilaine Maxwell and
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Jeffrey Epstein are, in my estimation at least two of
the most perverse people we have ever come across. If
you'd like to contact me, you can do that at
Bobby Kapuchi at protonmeil dot com. That's b O B
b y c A p U C c I at
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ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on Twitter
at b O B B y underscore c A p
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