November 28, 2025 • 16 mins
In the wake of her 2021 conviction for sex-trafficking and related charges, Maxwell has repeatedly denied wrongdoing — including rejecting allegations linking her to certain abuses. For example, in interviews and during recent meetings with investigators she has dismissed claims of sexual encounters involving Prince Andrew and one of her accusers as “fabricated.” Most notably, she described a notorious photo said to show Andrew with the accuser as “a fake,” claimed she never introduced Andrew to her former associate Jeffrey Epstein, and argued certain alleged crimes “could not have happened.” These denials, and her continued refusal to accept guilty responsibility, make clear that she has not publicly acknowledged remorse for the trafficking, exploitation, and suffering tied to her conviction.
Yet in her first in-prison interview since the verdict, Maxwell expressed that she “felt so bad” for Prince Andrew, calling him a “dear friend” she cares about — even while acknowledging that their connection “could not survive” after her conviction. She spoke of him as “paying such a price for the association,” portraying him as someone suffering consequences because of his ties to her and Epstein. Her sympathy for Andrew — while simultaneously rejecting responsibility for her own role — sent a jarring message: she was willing to voice pity for a powerful man whose public standing was damaged, but not willing to extend empathy or accountability to the victims of her crimes.
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Yet in her first in-prison interview since the verdict, Maxwell expressed that she “felt so bad” for Prince Andrew, calling him a “dear friend” she cares about — even while acknowledging that their connection “could not survive” after her conviction. She spoke of him as “paying such a price for the association,” portraying him as someone suffering consequences because of his ties to her and Epstein. Her sympathy for Andrew — while simultaneously rejecting responsibility for her own role — sent a jarring message: she was willing to voice pity for a powerful man whose public standing was damaged, but not willing to extend empathy or accountability to the victims of her crimes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, So our article is from the Sun. It
just came out a couple of hours ago, and the
headline is Madam gilt Jeffrey Epstein's pimp. Gislaine Maxwell says
biggest mistake of her life was recruiting Prince Andrew's sex accuser.
That's pretty that's an understatement and a half. Huh, maybe
the understatement of the century. That's your biggest mistake. Yeah, definitely,
(00:20):
definitely one of them. But the only reason you think
it's your biggest mistake is because she puts you on blast,
because she is giving you that smoke. Now, that's why
it's it's the biggest problem of your life. Right. If
she would have just shut her mouth like a good girl,
like you wanted her to, like your money, wanted her
to like you're disgusting, buddy, Jeffrey Epstein wanted her to, well,
it would been all good. Who gives a shit then? Right?
(00:40):
But now that she's talking, now that she's saying, hey, look,
this happened to me, this happened to other girls, and
there is more people involved, Well, well, well well what
now now it's oh, this is the biggest mistake of
my life. Give me a break. Gisline. Maxwell has said
her biggest mistake was learning Prince Andrew's acute into her
pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's deprave world. It can be revealed, so yeah,
(01:05):
no shit, she Virginia Roberts is the reason this whole
entire house of cards is coming down around these people.
And look, don't get me wrong, I'm not naive, right,
I know that justice is gonna be it's gonna be
hard to serve in this case because of who we're
dealing with. But that doesn't mean that we should just
throw We should throw up our hands and be like,
oh well, justice has never been served in the in
(01:26):
the past, and situations such as these with powerful people,
why should it be served? Now? Screw it. I'm just
gonna I'm gonna go Black Friday shopping. No, that's not
how I'm rolling. I'm not gonna get knocked off, of course,
I'm gonna stay on target. Look, this is like the
Death Star, right, this is like this, This whole entire
situation is like the Death Star, and we're like the
X Wing the fighter pilots. The fifty seven year old
(01:49):
accused of being Epstein's pimp and cop fucking Cole molester.
It's said to not give a shit about Virginia Roberts,
who claims to have had sex with the royal when
she was seventeen, and scores of others that Epstein abused.
According to a family friend, Maxwell feared Maxwell. What Maxwell
fears is that legal action launched by Virginia would expose
(02:11):
her network of powerful friends, which she spent years building
and protecting. This is what we have to do, folks.
Remember when you're reading these articles, you have to read
between the lines, because the media is not going to
give you the whole entire story, so they're playing word games, right,
would expose her network of powerful friends, which she spent
years building and protecting. What they really mean by that
(02:32):
is that her whole entire blackmail ring has information on
all of these people that they brought into their orbit,
who went to these islands. Oh yeah, come on, you
can have sex with any of these girls, no big deal.
Lo and behold they're underage, lo and behold, they've been trafficked.
And now he has portfolios and dossier's on all of
these people. And of course Maxwell's right in the middle
(02:53):
of all of that. She's the one, She's the one
setting everything in motion. She's the one getting all the
pieces in place, She's the one keeping the ducks in
the row. Well, I'm here to tell everybody, all right,
I am here to tell everybody. Just like John McClain said,
just another fly in the ointman Hans, just another monkey
in the wrench. That's exactly what I am. I'm the
(03:14):
John mcclan of this shit. Laura Goldman, sixty one of
former New York City stockbroker who mixed in thea who
mixed in the same social circles as Maxwell, told Son
Online how the alleged madam was undoubtedly the brains behind
Epstein's predatory schemes, as she was much more intelligent, well connected,
and charming than he was. Again, she's been groomed since
(03:35):
she was a child by the intelligence services. Her father,
Robert Maxwell, was part of the Mega Group. And if
you don't know who the Mega Group is, go back
and listen to the episode where I expose who they are.
They are a very sick, sick, depraved group of rich
people that pull a lot of strings. And to think
that Ghislay and Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein weren't being run
(03:57):
by them with all the evidence that we have. I
honestly don't know what to tell you. If you truly
believe this happens in a vacuum, I don't know what
to tell you. I mean, it's beyond me. It's beyond
my imagination to think that anyone could believe that this
just happened in the vacuum and they were just a
few people. It's just it's mind boggling to me, she
(04:17):
told The Son Online. Gis Lane was hysterical about the
defamation suit Virginia Roberts launched. That suit made her Nutso
she saw that as a threat to her whole network
of famous friends. Yeah, no, wonder it made her nuts.
So she knew she did something wrong. She knew she
was involved, and she knows. She knows when the threat
gets pulled on. And when people start sinking their teeth
into some of this meat, well they're gonna want more.
(04:38):
And that's exactly what's occurring, folks. We got just a
little taste of the meat, right, a little bit of
blood in the water, and now it's like a frenzy
of sharks feeding. Gis Lane's had Her biggest mistake was
ever involving Virginia. Gis Lane doesn't give a shit about
the girls like Virginia who suffered. She is more worried
about exposing her network. Yeah. Do you know why, Because
if you exposed the network that she runs in the
(05:00):
people that run her, well, she ends up with the
same kind of fate that her father did mysteriously falling
off of his yacht, or the same kind of fate
of Jeffrey Epstein hanging himself in prison. Give me a break,
all right, nobody's buying their nonsense anymore. Laura says she
last saw Maxwell about ten years ago, but still shares
(05:22):
mutual friends with her and remains friends with the Socialites' sister,
Isabelle Maxwell. So is Isabelle Maxwell under surveillance? If we
don't know where Gislayne is, then why don't we have
all of her family under surveillance. They do that with
Italian people. If you're in the mafia and they think
you've done something wrong, they'll drop a rico case on you,
(05:43):
a racketeering case on you, and everybody you come into
contact with will get swooped up into that rico case.
They will start doing surveillance on them. They will tap
their phones, they will look into their backgrounds, They will
try and get them to get you. Why is that
not occurring in this case? She said. She attended many
events with Epstein and Maxwell in the nineties, and even
(06:04):
attended one of the billionaire's infamous parties at his home
in Florida, which was packed with young girls. So again
another one of these rich people that are coming out
now with their crocodile tears. I went to a party
with Mecca at Epstein tells, and here with a bunch
of young girls. Dear, So you don't say anything, then
you wait until now, until Virginia Roberts takes everything full
(06:27):
full cannon, full cannon, broadside, for every buffer, for the
whole entire case. She's the one that's out there. She's
the one being sued by Dershowitz, She's the one being
called all sorts of names. And now all these people
are finding their courage to these people that not people
that were abused, mind you, the people that were around
the people in the orbit. Now they're coming out. Oh
I'm going to write a book. Oh I see this,
Oh I see that. Well, where were you when all
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of this was happening. I got invited to attend by
a male friend who was going Laura recalled, Okay, what's
the male friend's name. You're coming out with all these names.
Let's get some names go on record. It was back
in the nineties. I got there and there were lots
of married men without their wives and young girls all over. Oh.
I wonder why, I wonder why that's a honey trap.
(07:10):
My friends that that scheme was young when Babylon was old.
This is one of the oldest schemes in the history
of mankind. Prince Andrew wasn't there. I didn't think the
girls were underage, but they probably were in retrospect to
see what I mean, you know what this dude is
(07:32):
up to? People talk. You know what, when you have
a group of friends and somebody's doing something shitty, everybody talks.
Oh yeah, you know John guys, I fucking eat guy's
doing tweak. Now you kidding me? Kid me with this guy?
Never mind a group of rich people, a bunch of
yap and yapper tins. They might as well be the
crones of the dash galin these rich people, the way
they yap about each other. You're telling me nobody knew
(07:53):
that they were young girls. Oh in retrospect, Oh, Monday
morning quarterback, Shut up, You're a liar. Jeffrey's house in
New York was very lavish, but as Florida place wasn't.
It was away from the beach, at the end of
a road. It was not a party for a woman
to be a guest at, and I was uncomfortable because
of that. I didn't want to go to any of
his New York events because I knew there was just
(08:15):
something wrong about it. After Jeffrey was arrested the first
time back in two thousand and eight, I didn't want
any more to do with either him or Gizlaine after that.
So then, you, Belle, you had no idea what was
going on. You had some assumptions, but you still went
to the party, right, Still went and ate their food,
still went and drank their booze, still went and socialized,
(08:36):
Still went to try and make your circle bigger, all
on the backs of these victims. Real nice, real nice.
How do you sleep at night? How do you sleep
at night? I know I couldn't. I know, I couldn't
sleep at night at all if I was involved in
any of this at any level, even in the most
minute way. Laura also criticized Prince Andrew also, who has
(08:58):
always denied any wrong doing or knowledge of Epstein's activities. Yeah,
okay for not realizing that the scores of young girls
at the PURVS events were really what they were really
there for, She said, I think Prince Andrew was adult.
He lives in a different world and may well be
thought that those girls were servants, but obviously they weren't. No,
he didn't. He knew what was going on, all right.
He doesn't walk around the Buckingham Palace yanking servants to
(09:22):
have sex with What is this the Middle Ages? What
is he? Henry Tutor? Come on, man, No one's buying
any of this stuff. He is part of a world
of people who think they are entitled to get whatever
they want. It's a different reality to most people. Yeah,
well we know that, and we know that they take
what they want. They don't care about killing people, they
don't care about raping people, obviously, they just take what
they want. They believe it's all coming to them and
(09:44):
that the world owes it to them. Laura also told
of her surprise when Maxwell was pictured at an in
and out Burger restaurant in Los Angeles in July. Maxwell
is believed to have been photographed by her lawyer, Leah Saffian,
whose dog appeared to be with the socialite and whose
metadata was linked to the picture. Safiana has kept a
low profile since the allegations, but son Online pictured her
(10:04):
ironically going through the drive through of her local in
and out Burger Join in Los Angeles this weekend. This
lady loves out, in and out. Huh. They staged the
picture heat in and out. She goes and eats in
and out, and from looking at her pictures, she should
probably take a few steps back and not have so
much in and out. A walk around the block will
not kill you. Another burger might gause. Lane does not
(10:27):
eat at in and out. She is obsessed with her figure.
She always used to make very offensive jokes that she
was on a Holocaust diet. Laura revealed, Oh that's nice,
that's real nice. I couldn't believe she would allow the
first picture of her for however long, to be at
a fast food restaurant. I was shocked. I bet it
was the first time she had ever been there. She's
very very vain. Well, I don't know about the first
(10:50):
time she's ever been there. If you're not familiar with
the West Coast. In and out burger is like a
huge staple people that come here from overseas or the
the East Coast. They love to get themselves some in
and out burger. She might like that, that might be her.
You know, this lady doesn't have that kind of intimate knowledge.
I'm sure, So let's not say, you know, oh she doesn't,
(11:10):
she'd never eat there. Blah blah blah, We don't know that.
It comes after Laura revealed the Son online how Maxwell
was sex obsessed and has managed to find herself a
new boyfriend. And we covered that article yesterday. Scott Borgerson,
she swooped him, stole him from his wife, from his kids.
Another sickoh that you know, was accused of sexual assault
(11:34):
and whatnot. Yeah, birds of a feather. These people all
flok together because guess what, normal people won't put up
with their behavior. Telling how she became close to the
Maxwell family, Laura said, my parents are Holocaust survivors, and
Isabelle does a great deal of work talking about the Holocaust.
The Maxwell's lost something like three hundred members of their
family in the Holocaust, and as a family, they have
done a lot for the state of Israel. Back up,
(11:57):
hit the Brakes. Let's read that again. The Maxwell's lost
something like three hundred members of their family in the Holocaust,
and as a family, they have done a lot for
the State of Israel. They have done a lot for
the State of Israel. Now I wonder what is the
State of Israel doing for Gizlaine Maxwell. And I don't
mean the people of Israel by the way. I mean
they're devious ass intelligence services. They're on the same playing
(12:22):
field as the CIA and the scum in our own
intelligence services here in the States. These people all play
the same game. They all hang out together, the five
Eyes of Intelligence. They're all in on all of this
crap together. And it's I find it very, very hard
to believe that the Masad or the CIA does not
know where Gizlaine Maxwell is. In fact, I'll take it
(12:43):
a step further, I would not be surprised if either
or both of those organizations are protecting her. I was
always active in the Jewish community scene, so that's how
I got to know Isabelle. I've traveled with her to
Israel and people would literally stand up when she walked
into her room. Her family commands respect I know they do.
And look, don't get me wrong, I have nothing to
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say about her sister. I really don't know her sister's life.
And any work with Holocaust survivors is a noble cause
in my opinion, because it's one of the darkest times
in our history. But again, we see these people, these
these sort of sick elites. They use these charitable organizations
and movements such as these to cover their disgustingness, and
it's just unacceptable. It's really unacceptable. I didn't get to
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know Isabelle's twin sister, Christine, who lives in Dallas, but
I knew of her because she is a Holocaust academic too.
I got to know Jeffrey through academic circles. At first.
He had links to universities I was also associated with. Well, again,
the academics. There's no academics on blast yet though. And
believe me, when when we get the academics and there's
they're they're named in these files, we're gonna put them
on blast. We're gonna light them the f up. Back
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back then, in the nineties, there were all kinds of
parties in New York, and there used to be a
joke in the early days that Ghizlane would show up
to the opening of an envelope. She would literally be
at every networking event. That was her job. No one
actually knew what she did for a living. Going to
parties and meeting people was her thing. She was everywhere,
So look, I could tell you what her job was.
It's very very obvious to anyone who has any knowledge
(14:15):
of how this sort of thing works. And you guys
are in luck because I do. Her job was to
go to these parties. She was the social arm of
the operation. She would go to these parties and she
would recruit people to become, you know, people to come
to these parties to meet Epstein and to get into
his orbit. That way they could get their hooks into them,
they could get their black mail information on them. And
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these are powerful people, folks. And when you have blackmail
information on powerful people, well you control those powerful people,
and then in essence you control whatever they control. She
always wore nice and expensive clothes. Then she started to
be with Jeffrey at events. I think she was attracted
to him for all sorts of reasons. For a start,
he was very domineering. He was a very domineering father,
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a character like her father, Robert, and she wanted money
the kind she was used to before her father died.
I myself wasn't really her cup of tea. I wasn't
fancy enough. Maxwell has denied any wrongdoing. Son Online reached
out to her representatives for comment. Well, there it is.
She tells you right here. She always wore nice and
expensive clothes. Then she started to be with Jeffrey at events.
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Then she started to be with Jeffrey at events. Then
she started to be with Jeffrey at events. Do you
understand why I'm saying that multiple times? I want you
to understand what that means. She went there and she
got herself, you know, she weaseled her way in and
then she eased Epstein in. A guy that has no background,
no family ties, no legacy, nothing like that. Why was
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he chosen to be brought into the circle? Why was
he chosen to be the guy. And that's a question
we all have to ask ourselves, and we need more answers.
There's still not enough answers, nowhere near enough answers in
this case. Gizlie Maxwell needs to be brought in, she
needs to be arrested. And I don't even understand what's
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taking so long, all right, it's it's absolutely mind boggling
to me.
All right, So our article is from the Sun. It
just came out a couple of hours ago, and the
headline is Madam gilt Jeffrey Epstein's pimp. Gislaine Maxwell says
biggest mistake of her life was recruiting Prince Andrew's sex accuser.
That's pretty that's an understatement and a half. Huh, maybe
the understatement of the century. That's your biggest mistake. Yeah, definitely,
(00:20):
definitely one of them. But the only reason you think
it's your biggest mistake is because she puts you on blast,
because she is giving you that smoke. Now, that's why
it's it's the biggest problem of your life. Right. If
she would have just shut her mouth like a good girl,
like you wanted her to, like your money, wanted her
to like you're disgusting, buddy, Jeffrey Epstein wanted her to, well,
it would been all good. Who gives a shit then? Right?
(00:40):
But now that she's talking, now that she's saying, hey, look,
this happened to me, this happened to other girls, and
there is more people involved, Well, well, well well what
now now it's oh, this is the biggest mistake of
my life. Give me a break. Gisline. Maxwell has said
her biggest mistake was learning Prince Andrew's acute into her
pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's deprave world. It can be revealed, so yeah,
(01:05):
no shit, she Virginia Roberts is the reason this whole
entire house of cards is coming down around these people.
And look, don't get me wrong, I'm not naive, right,
I know that justice is gonna be it's gonna be
hard to serve in this case because of who we're
dealing with. But that doesn't mean that we should just
throw We should throw up our hands and be like,
oh well, justice has never been served in the in
(01:26):
the past, and situations such as these with powerful people,
why should it be served? Now? Screw it. I'm just
gonna I'm gonna go Black Friday shopping. No, that's not
how I'm rolling. I'm not gonna get knocked off, of course,
I'm gonna stay on target. Look, this is like the
Death Star, right, this is like this, This whole entire
situation is like the Death Star, and we're like the
X Wing the fighter pilots. The fifty seven year old
(01:49):
accused of being Epstein's pimp and cop fucking Cole molester.
It's said to not give a shit about Virginia Roberts,
who claims to have had sex with the royal when
she was seventeen, and scores of others that Epstein abused.
According to a family friend, Maxwell feared Maxwell. What Maxwell
fears is that legal action launched by Virginia would expose
(02:11):
her network of powerful friends, which she spent years building
and protecting. This is what we have to do, folks.
Remember when you're reading these articles, you have to read
between the lines, because the media is not going to
give you the whole entire story, so they're playing word games, right,
would expose her network of powerful friends, which she spent
years building and protecting. What they really mean by that
(02:32):
is that her whole entire blackmail ring has information on
all of these people that they brought into their orbit,
who went to these islands. Oh yeah, come on, you
can have sex with any of these girls, no big deal.
Lo and behold they're underage, lo and behold, they've been trafficked.
And now he has portfolios and dossier's on all of
these people. And of course Maxwell's right in the middle
(02:53):
of all of that. She's the one, She's the one
setting everything in motion. She's the one getting all the
pieces in place, She's the one keeping the ducks in
the row. Well, I'm here to tell everybody, all right,
I am here to tell everybody. Just like John McClain said,
just another fly in the ointman Hans, just another monkey
in the wrench. That's exactly what I am. I'm the
(03:14):
John mcclan of this shit. Laura Goldman, sixty one of
former New York City stockbroker who mixed in thea who
mixed in the same social circles as Maxwell, told Son
Online how the alleged madam was undoubtedly the brains behind
Epstein's predatory schemes, as she was much more intelligent, well connected,
and charming than he was. Again, she's been groomed since
(03:35):
she was a child by the intelligence services. Her father,
Robert Maxwell, was part of the Mega Group. And if
you don't know who the Mega Group is, go back
and listen to the episode where I expose who they are.
They are a very sick, sick, depraved group of rich
people that pull a lot of strings. And to think
that Ghislay and Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein weren't being run
(03:57):
by them with all the evidence that we have. I
honestly don't know what to tell you. If you truly
believe this happens in a vacuum, I don't know what
to tell you. I mean, it's beyond me. It's beyond
my imagination to think that anyone could believe that this
just happened in the vacuum and they were just a
few people. It's just it's mind boggling to me, she
(04:17):
told The Son Online. Gis Lane was hysterical about the
defamation suit Virginia Roberts launched. That suit made her Nutso
she saw that as a threat to her whole network
of famous friends. Yeah, no, wonder it made her nuts.
So she knew she did something wrong. She knew she
was involved, and she knows. She knows when the threat
gets pulled on. And when people start sinking their teeth
into some of this meat, well they're gonna want more.
(04:38):
And that's exactly what's occurring, folks. We got just a
little taste of the meat, right, a little bit of
blood in the water, and now it's like a frenzy
of sharks feeding. Gis Lane's had Her biggest mistake was
ever involving Virginia. Gis Lane doesn't give a shit about
the girls like Virginia who suffered. She is more worried
about exposing her network. Yeah. Do you know why, Because
if you exposed the network that she runs in the
(05:00):
people that run her, well, she ends up with the
same kind of fate that her father did mysteriously falling
off of his yacht, or the same kind of fate
of Jeffrey Epstein hanging himself in prison. Give me a break,
all right, nobody's buying their nonsense anymore. Laura says she
last saw Maxwell about ten years ago, but still shares
(05:22):
mutual friends with her and remains friends with the Socialites' sister,
Isabelle Maxwell. So is Isabelle Maxwell under surveillance? If we
don't know where Gislayne is, then why don't we have
all of her family under surveillance. They do that with
Italian people. If you're in the mafia and they think
you've done something wrong, they'll drop a rico case on you,
(05:43):
a racketeering case on you, and everybody you come into
contact with will get swooped up into that rico case.
They will start doing surveillance on them. They will tap
their phones, they will look into their backgrounds, They will
try and get them to get you. Why is that
not occurring in this case? She said. She attended many
events with Epstein and Maxwell in the nineties, and even
(06:04):
attended one of the billionaire's infamous parties at his home
in Florida, which was packed with young girls. So again
another one of these rich people that are coming out
now with their crocodile tears. I went to a party
with Mecca at Epstein tells, and here with a bunch
of young girls. Dear, So you don't say anything, then
you wait until now, until Virginia Roberts takes everything full
(06:27):
full cannon, full cannon, broadside, for every buffer, for the
whole entire case. She's the one that's out there. She's
the one being sued by Dershowitz, She's the one being
called all sorts of names. And now all these people
are finding their courage to these people that not people
that were abused, mind you, the people that were around
the people in the orbit. Now they're coming out. Oh
I'm going to write a book. Oh I see this,
Oh I see that. Well, where were you when all
(06:49):
of this was happening. I got invited to attend by
a male friend who was going Laura recalled, Okay, what's
the male friend's name. You're coming out with all these names.
Let's get some names go on record. It was back
in the nineties. I got there and there were lots
of married men without their wives and young girls all over. Oh.
I wonder why, I wonder why that's a honey trap.
(07:10):
My friends that that scheme was young when Babylon was old.
This is one of the oldest schemes in the history
of mankind. Prince Andrew wasn't there. I didn't think the
girls were underage, but they probably were in retrospect to
see what I mean, you know what this dude is
(07:32):
up to? People talk. You know what, when you have
a group of friends and somebody's doing something shitty, everybody talks.
Oh yeah, you know John guys, I fucking eat guy's
doing tweak. Now you kidding me? Kid me with this guy?
Never mind a group of rich people, a bunch of
yap and yapper tins. They might as well be the
crones of the dash galin these rich people, the way
they yap about each other. You're telling me nobody knew
(07:53):
that they were young girls. Oh in retrospect, Oh, Monday
morning quarterback, Shut up, You're a liar. Jeffrey's house in
New York was very lavish, but as Florida place wasn't.
It was away from the beach, at the end of
a road. It was not a party for a woman
to be a guest at, and I was uncomfortable because
of that. I didn't want to go to any of
his New York events because I knew there was just
(08:15):
something wrong about it. After Jeffrey was arrested the first
time back in two thousand and eight, I didn't want
any more to do with either him or Gizlaine after that.
So then, you, Belle, you had no idea what was
going on. You had some assumptions, but you still went
to the party, right, Still went and ate their food,
still went and drank their booze, still went and socialized,
(08:36):
Still went to try and make your circle bigger, all
on the backs of these victims. Real nice, real nice.
How do you sleep at night? How do you sleep
at night? I know I couldn't. I know, I couldn't
sleep at night at all if I was involved in
any of this at any level, even in the most
minute way. Laura also criticized Prince Andrew also, who has
(08:58):
always denied any wrong doing or knowledge of Epstein's activities. Yeah,
okay for not realizing that the scores of young girls
at the PURVS events were really what they were really
there for, She said, I think Prince Andrew was adult.
He lives in a different world and may well be
thought that those girls were servants, but obviously they weren't. No,
he didn't. He knew what was going on, all right.
He doesn't walk around the Buckingham Palace yanking servants to
(09:22):
have sex with What is this the Middle Ages? What
is he? Henry Tutor? Come on, man, No one's buying
any of this stuff. He is part of a world
of people who think they are entitled to get whatever
they want. It's a different reality to most people. Yeah,
well we know that, and we know that they take
what they want. They don't care about killing people, they
don't care about raping people, obviously, they just take what
they want. They believe it's all coming to them and
(09:44):
that the world owes it to them. Laura also told
of her surprise when Maxwell was pictured at an in
and out Burger restaurant in Los Angeles in July. Maxwell
is believed to have been photographed by her lawyer, Leah Saffian,
whose dog appeared to be with the socialite and whose
metadata was linked to the picture. Safiana has kept a
low profile since the allegations, but son Online pictured her
(10:04):
ironically going through the drive through of her local in
and out Burger Join in Los Angeles this weekend. This
lady loves out, in and out. Huh. They staged the
picture heat in and out. She goes and eats in
and out, and from looking at her pictures, she should
probably take a few steps back and not have so
much in and out. A walk around the block will
not kill you. Another burger might gause. Lane does not
(10:27):
eat at in and out. She is obsessed with her figure.
She always used to make very offensive jokes that she
was on a Holocaust diet. Laura revealed, Oh that's nice,
that's real nice. I couldn't believe she would allow the
first picture of her for however long, to be at
a fast food restaurant. I was shocked. I bet it
was the first time she had ever been there. She's
very very vain. Well, I don't know about the first
(10:50):
time she's ever been there. If you're not familiar with
the West Coast. In and out burger is like a
huge staple people that come here from overseas or the
the East Coast. They love to get themselves some in
and out burger. She might like that, that might be her.
You know, this lady doesn't have that kind of intimate knowledge.
I'm sure, So let's not say, you know, oh she doesn't,
(11:10):
she'd never eat there. Blah blah blah, We don't know that.
It comes after Laura revealed the Son online how Maxwell
was sex obsessed and has managed to find herself a
new boyfriend. And we covered that article yesterday. Scott Borgerson,
she swooped him, stole him from his wife, from his kids.
Another sickoh that you know, was accused of sexual assault
(11:34):
and whatnot. Yeah, birds of a feather. These people all
flok together because guess what, normal people won't put up
with their behavior. Telling how she became close to the
Maxwell family, Laura said, my parents are Holocaust survivors, and
Isabelle does a great deal of work talking about the Holocaust.
The Maxwell's lost something like three hundred members of their
family in the Holocaust, and as a family, they have
done a lot for the state of Israel. Back up,
(11:57):
hit the Brakes. Let's read that again. The Maxwell's lost
something like three hundred members of their family in the Holocaust,
and as a family, they have done a lot for
the State of Israel. They have done a lot for
the State of Israel. Now I wonder what is the
State of Israel doing for Gizlaine Maxwell. And I don't
mean the people of Israel by the way. I mean
they're devious ass intelligence services. They're on the same playing
(12:22):
field as the CIA and the scum in our own
intelligence services here in the States. These people all play
the same game. They all hang out together, the five
Eyes of Intelligence. They're all in on all of this
crap together. And it's I find it very, very hard
to believe that the Masad or the CIA does not
know where Gizlaine Maxwell is. In fact, I'll take it
(12:43):
a step further, I would not be surprised if either
or both of those organizations are protecting her. I was
always active in the Jewish community scene, so that's how
I got to know Isabelle. I've traveled with her to
Israel and people would literally stand up when she walked
into her room. Her family commands respect I know they do.
And look, don't get me wrong, I have nothing to
(13:04):
say about her sister. I really don't know her sister's life.
And any work with Holocaust survivors is a noble cause
in my opinion, because it's one of the darkest times
in our history. But again, we see these people, these
these sort of sick elites. They use these charitable organizations
and movements such as these to cover their disgustingness, and
it's just unacceptable. It's really unacceptable. I didn't get to
(13:28):
know Isabelle's twin sister, Christine, who lives in Dallas, but
I knew of her because she is a Holocaust academic too.
I got to know Jeffrey through academic circles. At first.
He had links to universities I was also associated with. Well, again,
the academics. There's no academics on blast yet though. And
believe me, when when we get the academics and there's
they're they're named in these files, we're gonna put them
on blast. We're gonna light them the f up. Back
(13:53):
back then, in the nineties, there were all kinds of
parties in New York, and there used to be a
joke in the early days that Ghizlane would show up
to the opening of an envelope. She would literally be
at every networking event. That was her job. No one
actually knew what she did for a living. Going to
parties and meeting people was her thing. She was everywhere,
So look, I could tell you what her job was.
It's very very obvious to anyone who has any knowledge
(14:15):
of how this sort of thing works. And you guys
are in luck because I do. Her job was to
go to these parties. She was the social arm of
the operation. She would go to these parties and she
would recruit people to become, you know, people to come
to these parties to meet Epstein and to get into
his orbit. That way they could get their hooks into them,
they could get their black mail information on them. And
(14:35):
these are powerful people, folks. And when you have blackmail
information on powerful people, well you control those powerful people,
and then in essence you control whatever they control. She
always wore nice and expensive clothes. Then she started to
be with Jeffrey at events. I think she was attracted
to him for all sorts of reasons. For a start,
he was very domineering. He was a very domineering father,
(14:58):
a character like her father, Robert, and she wanted money
the kind she was used to before her father died.
I myself wasn't really her cup of tea. I wasn't
fancy enough. Maxwell has denied any wrongdoing. Son Online reached
out to her representatives for comment. Well, there it is.
She tells you right here. She always wore nice and
expensive clothes. Then she started to be with Jeffrey at events.
(15:21):
Then she started to be with Jeffrey at events. Then
she started to be with Jeffrey at events. Do you
understand why I'm saying that multiple times? I want you
to understand what that means. She went there and she
got herself, you know, she weaseled her way in and
then she eased Epstein in. A guy that has no background,
no family ties, no legacy, nothing like that. Why was
(15:42):
he chosen to be brought into the circle? Why was
he chosen to be the guy. And that's a question
we all have to ask ourselves, and we need more answers.
There's still not enough answers, nowhere near enough answers in
this case. Gizlie Maxwell needs to be brought in, she
needs to be arrested. And I don't even understand what's
(16:03):
taking so long, all right, it's it's absolutely mind boggling
to me.
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