December 1, 2025 • 21 mins
Prosecutors alleged that in late 2018, just after renewed public scrutiny from media reporting on earlier investigations, Epstein wired $100,000 to one person and $250,000 to another — both described as possible co-conspirators or potential witnesses in his trafficking case. The timing and amounts suggested to prosecutors that Epstein was using his wealth to try to sway or silence witnesses before they could provide testimony against him. This alleged witness-tampering was part of the government’s argument for why he should not be released on bail or house arrest, but instead remain jailed while awaiting trial.
At the same time, this revelation fed into a broader narrative about Epstein’s pattern of “obstruction and manipulation of witnesses,” going back to his earlier state-level case in Florida and the controversial 2008 plea deal. Prosecutors used these payments as evidence that Epstein remained unrepentant, wealthy, and dangerous — undermining any argument from the defense that he posed no risk of influencing or intimidating people connected to the case.
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At the same time, this revelation fed into a broader narrative about Epstein’s pattern of “obstruction and manipulation of witnesses,” going back to his earlier state-level case in Florida and the controversial 2008 plea deal. Prosecutors used these payments as evidence that Epstein remained unrepentant, wealthy, and dangerous — undermining any argument from the defense that he posed no risk of influencing or intimidating people connected to the case.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, what's going on everybody. So today we're going to
go back to the vault and pull out another article.
This article is from July twelfth of twenty nineteen, and
it's from the New York Post. It has to do
with Jeffrey Epstein and the amount of money that he
was spending to influence potential witnesses. We talked a little
bit about this last night when we were talking about
who went and visited him in jail, and I was
(00:23):
talking about how his personal train his personal assistants. Excuse me,
we're making way more money than any other personal assistance
even on Wall Street. And the reason for that was
it wasn't because Jeffrey Epstein was a nice guy, or
he wanted to pay them a little bit of extra
money to make their lives better, or that they were
just so good at their jobs that he had to
give them so much more money than all of the
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other assistants on Wall Street. Nope, it had nothing to
do with any of that. It had to do with
buying their silence. It had to do with making sure
that they had funds so they did not rat him out.
And that was all part of the life and layer
and layer upon layer that he built within this operation.
So today we're going to talk a little bit more
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about that, and we're going to see who this article
is talking about. So, like I said, this is from
the New York Post. The author is Andrew Denny and
this article was produced on July twelfth of two thousand
and nineteen. Millionaire convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein has already tried
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to buy the silence of two potential witnesses against him,
Manhattan prosecutors charged Friday. Yeah, that's his mo. When you
have that kind of money, that's what you do. You
spread it around, You try and help yourself to be
insulated when the fall comes. And does it always work? No,
it certainly does not always work. But Jeffrey Epstein had
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another aspect to all of this. Not only was he
providing them money, and they not only were they employees,
they were all part of his sex cult as well,
and he had them all wrapped around his finger. The
former hedge fund manager, who was arrested last week on
child sex trafficking charges, doled out a total of at
least three hundred and fifty thousand dollars to two people
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last year. Federal prosecutors said in new court papers. The
money two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in one case
and one hundred thousand in the other, was secretly funneled
to the potential witnesses identified in the documents as possible
co conspirators. At around the same time, the Miami Herald
unleashed a series of expose is about the perverted financier.
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The FED said, Wow, so two people co conspirators. We
can only be left to wonder who they might be.
So here are our list of suspects. Sarah Kellen Vickers,
Leslie Groff, Adriana Ross, Nadia Marsonkova, and Ghilan Maxwell. Those
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would be the five top choices in my opinion. I'm
sure that there might be some others, but those are
the top five where I'm guessing that this money went
to the person who was wired the two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars was identified as one of the defendants employees. Yeah, well,
there you go. We know that we know that he
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was paying hush money to his employees. We know he
was paying hush money to people like Leslie Groff and
Adriana Ross. We know that that's been established. There's no
way that those gals were making two hundred thousand dollars
a year to be personal assistants. So with the four
of them around him, he was doling out eight hundred
grand to his assistance people to answer phones, people to
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set up meetings. Come on, really, on what planet is
that normal? That doesn't happen. That's a job where those
people are probably making seventy five eighty grand, ninety grand,
maybe maybe one hundred thousand with incentives and whatnot. None,
they're not making two hundred grand a year to answer phones. Okay,
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that's insane. Neither of these payments appears to be recurring
or repeating during the approximately five years of bank records
available to the government. The document said, this course of action,
and in particular its timing, suggests the defendant was attempting
to further influence co conspirators who might provide information against him. Well, yeah,
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that's cool, the prosecutor. The prosecutors are coming out and
saying that, and they're realizing what's going on. But what's
going on now is the real question. Epstein's dead. There's
nobody left the funnel money to these girls. Why aren't
you arresting them? Why aren't you kicking in the doors.
Don't act like you're going after the co conspirators. Don't say, oh, well,
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the co conspirators shouldn't sleep easy when we haven't seen
one iota of movement towards bringing any of them to justice.
And Epstein's and Epstein's efforts to influence witnesses continue to
this day, the prosecutors added, So they had them for
witness hampering. And the people and the witnesses who receive
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the money, why aren't they under scrutiny? Are they being followed?
Is there an investigation cracked off into them? How about again,
a forensic accountant tracing that money? Where did the money
come from that Jeffrey Epstein funneled to them? The FETs
pointed to an allegation that Epstein, whose fortune was estimated
at five hundred million dollars in court papers, tried to
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pay off one of his victims to keep her quiet
during a two thousand and six investigation into his pedophilia. Yeah,
he always tried to do this. He's one of these
people again, one of these people from polite New York
society who thinks that their money makes it okay for
them to act anyway. They want and to treat people
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anyway they feel that they should treat them. And if
he stepped out of line, that's okay. He'd spread a
little dough around to the poor subjects around him, and
then everything would go away. And it's not just Jeffrey Epstein, folks.
I hate to break the news to you. It's that's
just how the world works. If you have money, if
you have a bunch of racks, well you're more than
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likely you're going to get off with whatever crime you commit.
The prosecutors cite a police report from Palm Beach County,
Florida that states that an associate of Epstein track down
the young woman the young woman while she was home
from college on spring break, telling her that Epstein would
pay for her silence. Who's this associate? Can we have names?
(06:27):
I don't you know. This is what I'm talking about,
And this is why the documents from Presca's court need
to be released as well. They're associate, unnamed, unnamed, a partner, etcetera, etcetera.
We can't have that anymore. All of these people need
to be exposed for their role within this enterprise. All
of these people need to be called upon the carpet,
and they have to answer questions. They don't get to
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skate by because they have fat bank accounts. They don't
get to skate by because they're hanging out with politicians
or powerful people. That that's not how this works. That's
not how any of this is supposed to work. The
Epstein associate told the girl, those who help him will
be compensated and those who hurt him will be dealt
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with accordingly. Imagine that's that's what These are the kind
of people that Jeffrey Epstein would send out after he
abused these girls, after they had survived his abuse, he
would send out his quote unquote associate, whoever that is,
to tell them, if they don't play a ball that
they're going to be in big trouble. They'll be hurt,
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they'll be hurt and dealt with. That's pretty open ended.
What does that mean? Is he threatening their lives? That's
that's a felony. He can't he can't threaten them. That's
a criminalistic threat. So where are the where are the
prosecutors with that? Who's the associate that went and passed
on that message? Isn't that shouldn't that person be held accountable?
For their actions and for what they're doing for Jeffrey Epstein.
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But no, all we see so far the two gar
from MCC they're the only ones that are in trouble.
And again and again we see it, the two tier
justice system right in front of our faces. In another
Palm Beach police report, one of Epstein's survivors told police
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that he had hired private investigators who were terrorizing her family,
in one case driving one of her parents off the
road during a car pursuit. You see, this is the
kind of stuff that really gets me upset, and I honestly,
I really hope that would happen to me. I wish
somebody would try that shit with me, because I would
go absolutely crazy. The intimidation, the intimidation of reporters is
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such a joke. The intimidation of these people is an
even bigger joke. How did the police let this occur?
Not only had have these girls been abused by Epstein
on the first time around, the second time around, third
time around, whatever it may be, but after the fact,
their families are being terrorized, family members being run off
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of the road even and there's no arrests, there's no
associates that are brought in for questioning. There's no deeper dive,
there's no harder look what is going on? Mister Berman,
I have news for you. If that was me and
some maniac ran my family off of the road and
I was in the vehicle with them, forget it, I'd
be I'd end up in jail. I would. I would,
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one hundred percent, without a question, end up in jail
because there would be an extraction from that vehicle. And
to be honest with you, if I was one of
these girls' parents, I would have probably kicked in lbrio
Way's door and went and looking for Epstein myself. Because
if you know, you're a you're a tax paying citizen, right,
you're a good person. You lived your life the right
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way your whole entire life. You never you know, you
never broke the rules, committed felonies, anything like that. And
any time that you've gotten a parking ticket, you've stood
up and you've answered for what you have done. And
now you sit here and you see that your daughter
has been assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein. And not only was
your daughter assaulted, now your family's being harassed as well.
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You're being harassed, You're being driven off the road by
some maniac and the police aren't doing anything about it.
I you know, what do you do at that point?
I mean, I saw the movie Law Abiding Citizen, and
I'll tell you what that might be where I would
be at, honestly, if this was my daughter. So Jeffrey
Epstein's honestly, he's lucky that none of these parents ever
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have took vigilante justice on him, because this is the
sort of case where you see that kind of thing, right,
and you really could you really blame the parents. They
got screwed by the prosecution, Jeffrey Epstein, obviously devastated their
child's lives, and you, as a parent, you're sitting there
saying yourself, far right, where do I turn? What do
I do now? So Epstein's lucky nobody ever kicked in
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his door, because I have news for you. If it
was me and it was my daughter, you wouldn't have
the worry about the police, my friend. I promise you
that details of the alleged payoffs and harassment surfaced as
prosecutors insisted that Epstein should continue to be held without bell,
and that was the right decision. By the way, he
should have never had Bell. This guy's a repeat offender,
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the whole nine. He should have never had Bell. He
is currently at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Lower Manhattan,
three cell doors down from drug kingpin Joaquin El Choppo Guzman,
awaiting another Bell hearing next week. That's another thing we
really haven't talked about, the fact that El Choppo was
a couple of doors down from Jeffrey Epstein. So you
mean to tell me that the cameras that were watching
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El Choppo as well as Jeffrey Epstein and now, mind you,
el Choppo was a proficient and prolific escape artist. You
mean to tell me that those cameras weren't working. Huh? Okay, sure,
I believe you. I mean, I just I You're so
credible over at the Department of Corrections and in the
Justice Department that I just believe you. I don't have
to do my own research, have to look at none
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of the facts, none of it. Just your word is enough,
said nobody ever. So l Chapo was hanging out two
doors down from Jeffrey Epstein and cameras don't work all
of a sudden, Huh makes a whole lot of sense.
The two most prized possessions in your whole entire facility,
and you're gonna tell me the cameras didn't work, okay.
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In the court papers filed Friday, prosecutors argued Epstein should
not be released in part because his primary residence in
the United States is a private island in the US
Virgin Islands. Well, that's a part of it, I guess,
But the real issue is the guy is a prolific
sex trafficker and child molester. Okay. There should have been
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no discussions of bail, not even a conversation. This man
should have been put under the prison while he awaited trial.
Even in fact, I'll take it a step further. We
should have put him in one of those black sites
that his buddies in the CIA loved so much. And
we should have let the parents of all of the
girls who were abused by him come over and water
board him for a little while. That would have been fun. Huh.
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The defendant's primary residence is a private island in the
US Virgin Islands, a place where any sort of meaningful
supervision would be all but impossible, they wrote. Of course
it would be because, as we stated last night, the
politicians in the Virgin Islands were on the dole. They
were all taking bribes from this guy. Are you kidding me?
Right now? They were wetting their beak and then they
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tried to try and wet their beak on the back
end as well. Who talk about getting my blood pressure,
my blood pressure raised. It's absolutely ridiculous. The Virgin Islands
is a ridiculous place. Obviously. The island is near the
tropical community of Saint Thomas, where locals never welcomed the
purvy billionaire. Anyway, everybody called it pedophile island. Kevin Goodrich,
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a charter boat operator from Saint Thomas, said, it's our
dark corner. He had, Oh, everybody called it pedophile island. Handanise, George.
So you mean to tell me that your predecessors had
no idea what was going on? Huh? But this boat
captain sure called it pedophile island. These people that lived
around there, sure called it pedophile island. But none of
the authorities knew. None of the elected officials knew. And
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you expect us to believe that. We don't believe that
happy crappy man. Nobody believes that that's bs Epstein's Island
features a stone mansion with a turquoise colored roof, as
well as several other structures. There was also a maid's
quarters and another square shaped mansion that features of gold dome.
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Workers believe the temple like structure was used as a
music room and was built with acoustic walls. I don't
have any information to add to any of that. I
don't have concrete information one way or the other about
what that temple was used for, but I will tell
you this, there's a lot of symbolism with that temple
and with a lot of things that Jeffrey Epstein was
up to. There's definitely a lot of symbolism there. And
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I'm not qualified to really delve deep into that aspect
of this case, but it's something that I've started looking into,
and that's the whole entire symbolism aspect of this. So
I'm trying to educate myself further on all of that.
So I don't want to speak out too much on
that right now, because I want to make sure I
know what I'm talking about before I bring it here
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to the podcast. Like every other thing I talk about here,
I want to make sure I'm not bumbling around like
a moron. So the occult aspect of this I have
not really delved too deep into, but the symbolism is
obvious when you start looking at the symbolism of some
of the structures he had and some of the other
things on his properties. There's a lot of symbolism. There
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are folks, a lot of it. Epstein's former employees on
the island described an odd working environment to Bloomberg News,
including that they were not supposed to be seen by
the pedophile billionaire when he was there. He tried to
act like he was royalty. Epstein tried to act like
he was royalty, like his buddy Prince Andrew. He tried
to make it so when his workers would see him,
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they didn't associate with him, you know. I'm sure they
had to like look down. And he tried to make
it like he was some kind of prince or some
kind of a king or something, when in reality we
know he's the prince of nothing, the king of less.
One of the former workers told Bloomberg that he remembers
two closely guarded security boxes in the main residence. One,
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a still safe in Epstein's office, was protected by a
level of security that suggested it contained much more than
just money. The worker remembered. Oh, I'm sure it did.
I'm sure it contained all sorts of thumb drives and
files and pictures and C. D. Rohm's and you name it,
you name it. I'm sure it had all kinds of
crazy stuff. Because, like serial killers, Jeffrey Epstein was the
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kind of pedophile that had to take a trophy, and
those trophies were videos and pictures, et cetera, et cetera.
Whereas you have serial killers when murder somebody, they'll take
a piece of clothing, maybe an earring, something like that,
and Epstein was the same kind of cat. While he
wasn't murdering these girls, we don't think or no, he
definitely was taking trophies. This man had all of the
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characteristics of an absolute sociopath. Epstein's lawyers have offered to
put up his seventy seven million, twenty one thousand square
foot Upper East Side townhouse where the Feds say he
sexually abused minor girls and kept Petrov of suspected child
porn and his private plane as collateral if he gets bail.
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Reading back on that, the gall of these lawyers to
even think that this guy was going to get bail,
to even think that anybody was going to acquiesce to
that to that request. That was never going to occur.
Zero chance he was getting bail, zero chance he was
getting out. This guy was really going up up the
river this time, because, like I said earlier, his intelligence
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contacts and his intelligence protect bailed on him after the
second arrest. They knew that a second time wasn't going
to be able to happen. They knew that they weren't
going to be able to get him off again. So
he got abandoned by the intelligence apparatus, in my opinion,
and he had zero chance of beating the second case.
Epstein is even willing to pay for around the clock
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armed security to keep an eye on him, as lawyer said.
Epstein's lawyers did not return messages seeking comment. Again with
the money, Oh, he's going to pay for people to
protect him, so he has armed security around at all times. No,
you're in jail, dude, You're going to be treated like
everybody else. And if it was up to me, I
would have dropped you right on the mainline. I would
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have put you in general population. Forget Nicholas TARTAGLIONI, I
would have dropped you in right with whoever the baddest
dudes in the prison were, That's exactly the tier you
would have been on. That's the car you would have
been riding. And whatever happened to you, Hey, it would
have happened to you. That's fate you would have not had.
You would have had zero protection. If I was in charge,
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none of these people would ever get any sort of
special protections. You're the one who molested those girls. You're
the one who abused them. You're the one who raped them.
So face the consequences, sir, go ahead and enjoy that
jail cell. Go ahead and enjoy that jail cell with
those hardened criminals who don't take kindly to people like you.
I think they call people like you Chomo's in the pen,
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my friend. And that's exactly what I would have done
to Epstein. If I was in charge of the prison,
I would have made sure obviously I kept the guy
alive so he could have testified, and then after that
I would have dropped him right in the main line
and let nature take its course, because that's what he deserves.
He didn't deserve to be put in some kind of
solitary confinement cell or to be protected in the shoe
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or anything like that. This man deserved to be treated
just like any one of us would have been treated
like any other sick, disgusting pedophile would be treated, and
drop him right in the main line and let him
go about his life in the yard. I say that's
a proper punishment for him. It would have been nice, right,
It would have been nice to see it through, to
see him get arrested and to see all of that occur. Unfortunately,
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the morons at the Department of Corrections and the idiots
at the Justice Department who will oversee the whole entire shebang,
couldn't even follow through with the small task of keeping
him alive so that he could be faced by the
survivors and after face the justice that he so deserved.
So now that he's gone, all that's left are the
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co conspirators, and their time is coming. Like I say
all the time, folks, and like you know, you know
what the deal is. In the year twenty twenty, this
is the year that the predator turns into the prey.
All right, folks, If you'd like to contact me, you
can do that at Bobby Kapuci at protonmel dot com.
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Yeah, what's going on everybody. So today we're going to
go back to the vault and pull out another article.
This article is from July twelfth of twenty nineteen, and
it's from the New York Post. It has to do
with Jeffrey Epstein and the amount of money that he
was spending to influence potential witnesses. We talked a little
bit about this last night when we were talking about
who went and visited him in jail, and I was
(00:23):
talking about how his personal train his personal assistants. Excuse me,
we're making way more money than any other personal assistance
even on Wall Street. And the reason for that was
it wasn't because Jeffrey Epstein was a nice guy, or
he wanted to pay them a little bit of extra
money to make their lives better, or that they were
just so good at their jobs that he had to
give them so much more money than all of the
(00:45):
other assistants on Wall Street. Nope, it had nothing to
do with any of that. It had to do with
buying their silence. It had to do with making sure
that they had funds so they did not rat him out.
And that was all part of the life and layer
and layer upon layer that he built within this operation.
So today we're going to talk a little bit more
(01:07):
about that, and we're going to see who this article
is talking about. So, like I said, this is from
the New York Post. The author is Andrew Denny and
this article was produced on July twelfth of two thousand
and nineteen. Millionaire convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein has already tried
(01:28):
to buy the silence of two potential witnesses against him,
Manhattan prosecutors charged Friday. Yeah, that's his mo. When you
have that kind of money, that's what you do. You
spread it around, You try and help yourself to be
insulated when the fall comes. And does it always work? No,
it certainly does not always work. But Jeffrey Epstein had
(01:50):
another aspect to all of this. Not only was he
providing them money, and they not only were they employees,
they were all part of his sex cult as well,
and he had them all wrapped around his finger. The
former hedge fund manager, who was arrested last week on
child sex trafficking charges, doled out a total of at
least three hundred and fifty thousand dollars to two people
(02:12):
last year. Federal prosecutors said in new court papers. The
money two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in one case
and one hundred thousand in the other, was secretly funneled
to the potential witnesses identified in the documents as possible
co conspirators. At around the same time, the Miami Herald
unleashed a series of expose is about the perverted financier.
(02:35):
The FED said, Wow, so two people co conspirators. We
can only be left to wonder who they might be.
So here are our list of suspects. Sarah Kellen Vickers,
Leslie Groff, Adriana Ross, Nadia Marsonkova, and Ghilan Maxwell. Those
(02:55):
would be the five top choices in my opinion. I'm
sure that there might be some others, but those are
the top five where I'm guessing that this money went
to the person who was wired the two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars was identified as one of the defendants employees. Yeah, well,
there you go. We know that we know that he
(03:15):
was paying hush money to his employees. We know he
was paying hush money to people like Leslie Groff and
Adriana Ross. We know that that's been established. There's no
way that those gals were making two hundred thousand dollars
a year to be personal assistants. So with the four
of them around him, he was doling out eight hundred
grand to his assistance people to answer phones, people to
(03:37):
set up meetings. Come on, really, on what planet is
that normal? That doesn't happen. That's a job where those
people are probably making seventy five eighty grand, ninety grand,
maybe maybe one hundred thousand with incentives and whatnot. None,
they're not making two hundred grand a year to answer phones. Okay,
(03:58):
that's insane. Neither of these payments appears to be recurring
or repeating during the approximately five years of bank records
available to the government. The document said, this course of action,
and in particular its timing, suggests the defendant was attempting
to further influence co conspirators who might provide information against him. Well, yeah,
(04:21):
that's cool, the prosecutor. The prosecutors are coming out and
saying that, and they're realizing what's going on. But what's
going on now is the real question. Epstein's dead. There's
nobody left the funnel money to these girls. Why aren't
you arresting them? Why aren't you kicking in the doors.
Don't act like you're going after the co conspirators. Don't say, oh, well,
(04:42):
the co conspirators shouldn't sleep easy when we haven't seen
one iota of movement towards bringing any of them to justice.
And Epstein's and Epstein's efforts to influence witnesses continue to
this day, the prosecutors added, So they had them for
witness hampering. And the people and the witnesses who receive
(05:02):
the money, why aren't they under scrutiny? Are they being followed?
Is there an investigation cracked off into them? How about again,
a forensic accountant tracing that money? Where did the money
come from that Jeffrey Epstein funneled to them? The FETs
pointed to an allegation that Epstein, whose fortune was estimated
at five hundred million dollars in court papers, tried to
(05:24):
pay off one of his victims to keep her quiet
during a two thousand and six investigation into his pedophilia. Yeah,
he always tried to do this. He's one of these
people again, one of these people from polite New York
society who thinks that their money makes it okay for
them to act anyway. They want and to treat people
(05:45):
anyway they feel that they should treat them. And if
he stepped out of line, that's okay. He'd spread a
little dough around to the poor subjects around him, and
then everything would go away. And it's not just Jeffrey Epstein, folks.
I hate to break the news to you. It's that's
just how the world works. If you have money, if
you have a bunch of racks, well you're more than
(06:06):
likely you're going to get off with whatever crime you commit.
The prosecutors cite a police report from Palm Beach County,
Florida that states that an associate of Epstein track down
the young woman the young woman while she was home
from college on spring break, telling her that Epstein would
pay for her silence. Who's this associate? Can we have names?
(06:27):
I don't you know. This is what I'm talking about,
And this is why the documents from Presca's court need
to be released as well. They're associate, unnamed, unnamed, a partner, etcetera, etcetera.
We can't have that anymore. All of these people need
to be exposed for their role within this enterprise. All
of these people need to be called upon the carpet,
and they have to answer questions. They don't get to
(06:51):
skate by because they have fat bank accounts. They don't
get to skate by because they're hanging out with politicians
or powerful people. That that's not how this works. That's
not how any of this is supposed to work. The
Epstein associate told the girl, those who help him will
be compensated and those who hurt him will be dealt
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with accordingly. Imagine that's that's what These are the kind
of people that Jeffrey Epstein would send out after he
abused these girls, after they had survived his abuse, he
would send out his quote unquote associate, whoever that is,
to tell them, if they don't play a ball that
they're going to be in big trouble. They'll be hurt,
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they'll be hurt and dealt with. That's pretty open ended.
What does that mean? Is he threatening their lives? That's
that's a felony. He can't he can't threaten them. That's
a criminalistic threat. So where are the where are the
prosecutors with that? Who's the associate that went and passed
on that message? Isn't that shouldn't that person be held accountable?
For their actions and for what they're doing for Jeffrey Epstein.
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But no, all we see so far the two gar
from MCC they're the only ones that are in trouble.
And again and again we see it, the two tier
justice system right in front of our faces. In another
Palm Beach police report, one of Epstein's survivors told police
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that he had hired private investigators who were terrorizing her family,
in one case driving one of her parents off the
road during a car pursuit. You see, this is the
kind of stuff that really gets me upset, and I honestly,
I really hope that would happen to me. I wish
somebody would try that shit with me, because I would
go absolutely crazy. The intimidation, the intimidation of reporters is
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such a joke. The intimidation of these people is an
even bigger joke. How did the police let this occur?
Not only had have these girls been abused by Epstein
on the first time around, the second time around, third
time around, whatever it may be, but after the fact,
their families are being terrorized, family members being run off
(09:02):
of the road even and there's no arrests, there's no
associates that are brought in for questioning. There's no deeper dive,
there's no harder look what is going on? Mister Berman,
I have news for you. If that was me and
some maniac ran my family off of the road and
I was in the vehicle with them, forget it, I'd
be I'd end up in jail. I would. I would,
(09:24):
one hundred percent, without a question, end up in jail
because there would be an extraction from that vehicle. And
to be honest with you, if I was one of
these girls' parents, I would have probably kicked in lbrio
Way's door and went and looking for Epstein myself. Because
if you know, you're a you're a tax paying citizen, right,
you're a good person. You lived your life the right
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way your whole entire life. You never you know, you
never broke the rules, committed felonies, anything like that. And
any time that you've gotten a parking ticket, you've stood
up and you've answered for what you have done. And
now you sit here and you see that your daughter
has been assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein. And not only was
your daughter assaulted, now your family's being harassed as well.
(10:08):
You're being harassed, You're being driven off the road by
some maniac and the police aren't doing anything about it.
I you know, what do you do at that point?
I mean, I saw the movie Law Abiding Citizen, and
I'll tell you what that might be where I would
be at, honestly, if this was my daughter. So Jeffrey
Epstein's honestly, he's lucky that none of these parents ever
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have took vigilante justice on him, because this is the
sort of case where you see that kind of thing, right,
and you really could you really blame the parents. They
got screwed by the prosecution, Jeffrey Epstein, obviously devastated their
child's lives, and you, as a parent, you're sitting there
saying yourself, far right, where do I turn? What do
I do now? So Epstein's lucky nobody ever kicked in
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his door, because I have news for you. If it
was me and it was my daughter, you wouldn't have
the worry about the police, my friend. I promise you
that details of the alleged payoffs and harassment surfaced as
prosecutors insisted that Epstein should continue to be held without bell,
and that was the right decision. By the way, he
should have never had Bell. This guy's a repeat offender,
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the whole nine. He should have never had Bell. He
is currently at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Lower Manhattan,
three cell doors down from drug kingpin Joaquin El Choppo Guzman,
awaiting another Bell hearing next week. That's another thing we
really haven't talked about, the fact that El Choppo was
a couple of doors down from Jeffrey Epstein. So you
mean to tell me that the cameras that were watching
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El Choppo as well as Jeffrey Epstein and now, mind you,
el Choppo was a proficient and prolific escape artist. You
mean to tell me that those cameras weren't working. Huh? Okay, sure,
I believe you. I mean, I just I You're so
credible over at the Department of Corrections and in the
Justice Department that I just believe you. I don't have
to do my own research, have to look at none
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of the facts, none of it. Just your word is enough,
said nobody ever. So l Chapo was hanging out two
doors down from Jeffrey Epstein and cameras don't work all
of a sudden, Huh makes a whole lot of sense.
The two most prized possessions in your whole entire facility,
and you're gonna tell me the cameras didn't work, okay.
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In the court papers filed Friday, prosecutors argued Epstein should
not be released in part because his primary residence in
the United States is a private island in the US
Virgin Islands. Well, that's a part of it, I guess,
But the real issue is the guy is a prolific
sex trafficker and child molester. Okay. There should have been
(12:46):
no discussions of bail, not even a conversation. This man
should have been put under the prison while he awaited trial.
Even in fact, I'll take it a step further. We
should have put him in one of those black sites
that his buddies in the CIA loved so much. And
we should have let the parents of all of the
girls who were abused by him come over and water
board him for a little while. That would have been fun. Huh.
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The defendant's primary residence is a private island in the
US Virgin Islands, a place where any sort of meaningful
supervision would be all but impossible, they wrote. Of course
it would be because, as we stated last night, the
politicians in the Virgin Islands were on the dole. They
were all taking bribes from this guy. Are you kidding me?
Right now? They were wetting their beak and then they
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tried to try and wet their beak on the back
end as well. Who talk about getting my blood pressure,
my blood pressure raised. It's absolutely ridiculous. The Virgin Islands
is a ridiculous place. Obviously. The island is near the
tropical community of Saint Thomas, where locals never welcomed the
purvy billionaire. Anyway, everybody called it pedophile island. Kevin Goodrich,
(13:55):
a charter boat operator from Saint Thomas, said, it's our
dark corner. He had, Oh, everybody called it pedophile island. Handanise, George.
So you mean to tell me that your predecessors had
no idea what was going on? Huh? But this boat
captain sure called it pedophile island. These people that lived
around there, sure called it pedophile island. But none of
the authorities knew. None of the elected officials knew. And
(14:17):
you expect us to believe that. We don't believe that
happy crappy man. Nobody believes that that's bs Epstein's Island
features a stone mansion with a turquoise colored roof, as
well as several other structures. There was also a maid's
quarters and another square shaped mansion that features of gold dome.
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Workers believe the temple like structure was used as a
music room and was built with acoustic walls. I don't
have any information to add to any of that. I
don't have concrete information one way or the other about
what that temple was used for, but I will tell
you this, there's a lot of symbolism with that temple
and with a lot of things that Jeffrey Epstein was
up to. There's definitely a lot of symbolism there. And
(15:00):
I'm not qualified to really delve deep into that aspect
of this case, but it's something that I've started looking into,
and that's the whole entire symbolism aspect of this. So
I'm trying to educate myself further on all of that.
So I don't want to speak out too much on
that right now, because I want to make sure I
know what I'm talking about before I bring it here
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to the podcast. Like every other thing I talk about here,
I want to make sure I'm not bumbling around like
a moron. So the occult aspect of this I have
not really delved too deep into, but the symbolism is
obvious when you start looking at the symbolism of some
of the structures he had and some of the other
things on his properties. There's a lot of symbolism. There
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are folks, a lot of it. Epstein's former employees on
the island described an odd working environment to Bloomberg News,
including that they were not supposed to be seen by
the pedophile billionaire when he was there. He tried to
act like he was royalty. Epstein tried to act like
he was royalty, like his buddy Prince Andrew. He tried
to make it so when his workers would see him,
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they didn't associate with him, you know. I'm sure they
had to like look down. And he tried to make
it like he was some kind of prince or some
kind of a king or something, when in reality we
know he's the prince of nothing, the king of less.
One of the former workers told Bloomberg that he remembers
two closely guarded security boxes in the main residence. One,
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a still safe in Epstein's office, was protected by a
level of security that suggested it contained much more than
just money. The worker remembered. Oh, I'm sure it did.
I'm sure it contained all sorts of thumb drives and
files and pictures and C. D. Rohm's and you name it,
you name it. I'm sure it had all kinds of
crazy stuff. Because, like serial killers, Jeffrey Epstein was the
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kind of pedophile that had to take a trophy, and
those trophies were videos and pictures, et cetera, et cetera.
Whereas you have serial killers when murder somebody, they'll take
a piece of clothing, maybe an earring, something like that,
and Epstein was the same kind of cat. While he
wasn't murdering these girls, we don't think or no, he
definitely was taking trophies. This man had all of the
(17:14):
characteristics of an absolute sociopath. Epstein's lawyers have offered to
put up his seventy seven million, twenty one thousand square
foot Upper East Side townhouse where the Feds say he
sexually abused minor girls and kept Petrov of suspected child
porn and his private plane as collateral if he gets bail.
(17:35):
Reading back on that, the gall of these lawyers to
even think that this guy was going to get bail,
to even think that anybody was going to acquiesce to
that to that request. That was never going to occur.
Zero chance he was getting bail, zero chance he was
getting out. This guy was really going up up the
river this time, because, like I said earlier, his intelligence
(17:58):
contacts and his intelligence protect bailed on him after the
second arrest. They knew that a second time wasn't going
to be able to happen. They knew that they weren't
going to be able to get him off again. So
he got abandoned by the intelligence apparatus, in my opinion,
and he had zero chance of beating the second case.
Epstein is even willing to pay for around the clock
(18:20):
armed security to keep an eye on him, as lawyer said.
Epstein's lawyers did not return messages seeking comment. Again with
the money, Oh, he's going to pay for people to
protect him, so he has armed security around at all times. No,
you're in jail, dude, You're going to be treated like
everybody else. And if it was up to me, I
would have dropped you right on the mainline. I would
(18:41):
have put you in general population. Forget Nicholas TARTAGLIONI, I
would have dropped you in right with whoever the baddest
dudes in the prison were, That's exactly the tier you
would have been on. That's the car you would have
been riding. And whatever happened to you, Hey, it would
have happened to you. That's fate you would have not had.
You would have had zero protection. If I was in charge,
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none of these people would ever get any sort of
special protections. You're the one who molested those girls. You're
the one who abused them. You're the one who raped them.
So face the consequences, sir, go ahead and enjoy that
jail cell. Go ahead and enjoy that jail cell with
those hardened criminals who don't take kindly to people like you.
I think they call people like you Chomo's in the pen,
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my friend. And that's exactly what I would have done
to Epstein. If I was in charge of the prison,
I would have made sure obviously I kept the guy
alive so he could have testified, and then after that
I would have dropped him right in the main line
and let nature take its course, because that's what he deserves.
He didn't deserve to be put in some kind of
solitary confinement cell or to be protected in the shoe
(19:49):
or anything like that. This man deserved to be treated
just like any one of us would have been treated
like any other sick, disgusting pedophile would be treated, and
drop him right in the main line and let him
go about his life in the yard. I say that's
a proper punishment for him. It would have been nice, right,
It would have been nice to see it through, to
see him get arrested and to see all of that occur. Unfortunately,
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the morons at the Department of Corrections and the idiots
at the Justice Department who will oversee the whole entire shebang,
couldn't even follow through with the small task of keeping
him alive so that he could be faced by the
survivors and after face the justice that he so deserved.
So now that he's gone, all that's left are the
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co conspirators, and their time is coming. Like I say
all the time, folks, and like you know, you know
what the deal is. In the year twenty twenty, this
is the year that the predator turns into the prey.
All right, folks, If you'd like to contact me, you
can do that at Bobby Kapuci at protonmel dot com.
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That's Bo b b y c A p u c
c I at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find
me on Twitter at b O b b y Underscore
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