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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Broadcasting from the Golden Spread of Texas. This is the
Fred Hughes Show. With each episode we introduce to you
an inspiring person or message to help you grow and
unlock your potential in life. I'm Fred Hughes, professional photographer, pastor, teacher,
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author and your show host. Thank you for joining us
and welcome this episode brought to you by the faithful
partners of Decision Ministry. Welcome everybody to the Fred Hughes
Show once again. I'm excited about tonight and have my
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good friend here, Manuel Gennle with me and we're just
going to have a great time in the Lord tonight.
And you're invited, and so if you would jump on
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can even we might even bring your chat up and
put it on the screen and answer a question or
something if if you have something that you would like
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to talk about or ask the question somewhere in there.
We're just going to have a good time tonight, and
we're gonna brag on Jesus and we're going to just
have a good time talking about our explorers. Both Gentle
Emmanuel and I are both world travelers. We've been lots
of countries. We've been lots of places, and we've done
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lots of ministry and we just we're just going to
have a good time sharing those kinds of things and
you get to get in on it tonight. And so
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for that for doing so. Emmanuel, Yes, sir, I'm so
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excited about finally getting yell here. If we we had
a little hiccup the last time we tried, and uh
it was it was all right.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I was out of country, you were, you.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Were halfway around the world. I was going, Man, yeah,
that's not gonna work. But anyway, we we love, we
love to kind of talk about Jesus and just get going.
And you know, it's so important for the world right now.
There's so many people that have not a clue who
Jesus is, who they are, who they are in Christ
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at all. I mean, there's so many clueless people in
the world. And you know, I love the evangelist and
I and I are one, and we need to be
preaching the gospel right on the left right now because
there's so many people that have no clue, have no
understanding of who God is. And uh, you're experienced in
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world travel, and you know, in certain certain places whenever
you go to I mean like when I was in Uganda,
well there's there's a hung there's a different kind of
hunger there, and there's a different kind of expectation there.
And if I will go over to Russia and there's
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a different kind of atmosphere there and there's a different
you know, religious climate, and it's so you know, it's
so diverse to have had to go to different places
and look around. That kind of been your experience as well.
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Yes, sir, every area you go have been built up
based on their religious inclination. And for instance, if we
go to Indonesia where they are about ninety nine percent Muslims,
great in the atmosphere, that will be completely different from
going to somewhere in let's say Eagerly where they are
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mostly Catholics. So that's always how it is. But the
Lord has given us what they need. Every one of
them need what we have. Therefore we are not afraid
to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to amen.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Amen. Yeah, when we go to the Philippines, you know,
it's just it's almost a perfect fish bowl of they're
all Catholic. They a lot of them are Catholic by
name only because they don't really know anything of what
they believe. They're supposed to have a lot of babies
and give money to the Catholic.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
But you know, it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It is, it really is. It's and every time that
you come up to a different person, you know, you
really do have to kind of find out what it
is that pricks their ear to the gospel. The Gospel
is good news, and it's good news to everybody anywhere
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anywhere we go, they can and they will receive the
good news. But it's got to be given in love.
I find out, you know, I don't know about you,
but for the Muslims, if the thing that they respond
to the most is the something that they've never experienced much,
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and that's the love of God, if you love on them,
or then they don't know how to handle that. They
don't know what to do with that. Has that been
your experiences as well?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yes, Fred, The whole thing is sometimes the Christians also
don't really know what they have, and that becomes a
problem because for you to share with passion, you have
to be convinced of how good it is to you know,
when we got born again, in the very first few months,
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we were so excited, But after about thirty seven years,
sometimes the excitement works away because we've been with a
lord for this long. But if we could only think
of the people out there and see what they don't have,
and know that anything we say out of our mouths
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will be such a tremendous of such a tremendous help
to these people, we will not keep our mouths shut
and walk through the world as see if everybody knows
what we know, no they don't. The world is waiting
for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
That is go ahead, right, you know, really and truly. Uh,
I'm reminded of the Scripture. It just says you know
that God, Uh that Jesus. Jesus says it says, I
get I give I give you power to become sons
of God. Man. I mean two, we have the power
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and we had the ability that we have is we
have to believe the Gospel and receive it, and and
that makes that that opens the door for us to
be able to become sons of God and and have
eternal life and and be able to walk in the
miraculous things that He has prepared for us from the
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from the foundation of the world. You know. I mean
a lot of a lot of Christians get so excited
about out, you know, laying hands on the sick and
actually seeing somebody get well because of that. But I
mean that that secondary. I mean it just bottom lines.
We talked about watchman knee and and we were kind
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of getting ready here and normal Christian life should be
able to do. I was I was looking at at
at Luke. Chapter ten and about verse seventeen or so,
it talks about where the seventy came back. Yeah, and
then right before that he talked about the twelve Disciples
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and the different accounts of the different gospels. You know,
they speak of it a little different. There's a little
different the way they recorded it all and everything. But
kind of the bottom line to me is in all
four God and all all all of the gospels, it
basically Jesus was telling his disciples. And I would have
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loved to have had a camera on on those disciples,
you know, because basically what he said, he said, well,
I'm I'm done. I've done show and tell here for
three and a half years. Your turn. I would have
really loved to say, you know, I mean, they probably
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had a little jaw dropping experience there. But but but
but what's in fascinating to me is what he told them.
He said, go cast out demons, heal the sick, raise
the dead, and priest the kingdom. Basically what he told him,
you know, he said, and when one of them says,
heal the leper, you know, but but but basically he
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just said, go do the miraculous live your life in
the miraculous and change people. And you know what it
says of Jesus in another place, was it said he
went about doing good. And it's setting the captives for
you know, it brings, it brings the ability to lose
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you from whatever has bound you up.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
You know that's what that's the Christian life. You get
to get in on it and then seen a lot
of things, and well, I just want to encourage people
tonight that are watching us to listen to some of
the stories that we have because we're gonna tell some
cool stories.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So you're first.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
So the beginning of the Christian life is hearing the gospel. Now, unfortunately,
that word gospel is an Old English word that is
not used anywhere else but in the Christian arena. So
most people don't even understand what that word means, gospel,
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and now they even think that it's the style of music,
the genre that's what's called gospel. So hearing the gospel
means you're listening to some kind of music that's not
what it is. It's an old English world that means
almost too good news, almost too good, like almost an
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unbelievably too good news to hear and what is this
almost too good news to the ears that we are
talking about. The fact is that before you even listen
to the gospel, you already know that you are a sinner.
And if it you know, if God comes in to
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check your actions, he's going to find you wanting. There's
a scripture that says that thou are weighed in the
balances and are found wanting. Every one of us knows
the scripture says. Anybody who says, oh, I don't know, astener,
I don't believe they are lying. Deep down, they know
they're just being proud on the outside. So because they
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know they are looking for this solution andbull acknowledge is
that they are sinners, and sinners deserve to go to hell.
They also know if you ask them. Yesterday, I was
with a gentleman in his shop. I was trying to
help him out, and I talked about, you know, one
hundred years from now, and then he said, oh, I
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know I won't be here in one hundred years. I said, oh,
we will all be in heaven, because I know you
are going to heaven, but I don't know if I
am going. I said, yes, I am going, but if
you want I can also help you go true. And
the thing is that when you are seeking for and
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you hear the gospel, it's like water on the soul
of at or water put on a thirsty soul. The
world is looking for this same information that we have,
and that information is that even though we are all sinners,
even though we know we are all heading to hell,
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we don't have to because Jesus paid for all. And
if you accept him and pronounce him with your mouth
that he is Lord, you also get to have the
same smiles that Fred and I have on our faces.
That is the good news. Before I get around, you know,
starting to preach here, this is a different platform, So
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I'm going to let Fred continue a little bit before
I come back.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well, you know, honestly, it really is it's too good
to be true news, you know, And the fact of
the matter is it's not. It's true. It is true, true.
And whenever somebody, whenever somebody begins to understand that there
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is an exchange, and watch my knee, and once again
he talks about the Great Exchange. And whenever we exchange
what we have for what God has, that's when supernatural
begins to happen. We take our natural and we give
it to the supernatural God that we believe in, and
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he turns around and gives to us what we need.
And you know, that exchange is how we get everything
from God. That's how we get born again. We gave
him our sins, He took them and joyfully upon himself,
and then he gave us eternal life. And if we
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have need of healing, we exchange whatever disease or discomfort
or a thing that's holding us in torment, we exchange that.
We give it to him, and he joyfully takes it
and puts it on himself, and he gives us his
peace that passes understanding. He gives us healing that we
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need in our body desperately. It's the great exchange.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I got to thinking about that one day, and I
going like, you're the worst trader I've ever been. Everything
you get, all the bad stuff and good stuff. What's
up with you?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You know? But you see the value he sees in us,
the value he sees in Sally Loujah. So you know,
there's that parable of a man who found a per
of a prescious price in the land, and he sold
everything he had and he bought that piece of land,
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so he can find that particular. That's who we were,
now that great exchanged. There's a scripture in Second Corinthians,
chapter five, Now we know. Verse seventeen says that therefore,
if any man being Christ, he's a new creation. All
things have passed away. Behold, all have become new. But
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then when you move on to verse twenty one, which
is the part of go into, he says that for
He has made him to be sin, for us who
knew no sin. He's talking about Jesus Christ. God made
Jesus to be sin, to become sin on the cross.
Jesus became sin, not that he is a sinner, because
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if he was a sinner, his sacrifice will not be
enough to take care of sinners. You can't kill a
sinner for sinners. He was a total righteous man God. Indeed,
But God, you.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Meking what your address was. I'm sorry I didn't for incidents.
Chapter five, chapter five, Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Verse twenty one is where I am right now.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Okay, twenty one, All right, I can get that upon
the screen for you.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
It's very good, okay, for he that he is talking about,
God made him, that him is Jesus Christ. So you
can read it this way. For God made Jesus, who
knew no sin, to be sin for us. That be
over there actually means to become sin for us, that
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we might become the righteousness of God in him. This
is the great exchange we were talking about a few
minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
God presented Jesus a righteous man and gave him up
to be sin for us. That means he took our
position as sin. That gives him the right to make
us the righteousness of God in him. Now, even though
he did this for the whole humanity, it only happens,
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or it only becomes fulfilled, to those who are in Him.
In Christ, Jesus, you and I have become the righteousness
of God, which means when God is looking for righteousness,
he's not looking looking for your personal righteousness. It's not
looking for my personal righteous today. He's looking for his
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righteousness on us, the righteousness of God. That's who we
become when we accept Jesus Christ. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
That's the beauty, beauty of the exchanges. We we exchange
our filthy rags is what you know, our righteousness and
our ability to be upright, and you know it is
so bad compared to him. I think one of the
scriptures calls it equates it to a menstrual.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Rag or yes, that's what it is. Filthy.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, we we have nothing to offer, but he we
have enough to offer that he will take it in
exchange his righteousness for our and uh, and he will
take that and he will make us his righteous like him.
And you know one John four seventeen says, as he is,
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so I we well that means now, that means now Manuel,
that he make us, You make you righteousness right here
in the dirty now and now you're in now right now.
You know. That's mind boggling to me. That you know.
But whenever we receive Jesus as Lord and Savior, he
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comes in and he makes it. He takes a portion
of our heart and he it's it's it's called our spirit.
And he enters in and he lives and dwells there,
and he makes and he seals us. It's said the
Word says, he seals us, and no, no demon can
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get no. I mean it is pure God that that
resides there, and that part of us, one third of us,
is complete. And we're going to be exactly just the
same way for all of eternity. Even when we die
and fly, we're already one third ready to be there,
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you know, our soul and our body that you catching
up to do. But you know, honestly, he made all
three parts righteous to begin with. He completed all three
and we just don't get to appropriate those last two's
until until we're we leave the planet. You know, we
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still have need of these earth suits, and we do.
We do, you know, because that enables us to have
the authority and have the ability to walk around and
do do ministry and things that we enjoy doing.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Hallelujah. There's a verse. There is a verse in Romance
chapter six, verse two that's about what you were saying
right now about That's that's what you were saying. In essence,
that's exactly that scripture you were talking about. You see
that scripture. Many have taken it the wrong way. That
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scripture says, Okay, I'm going to read straight from Romance
chapter two, verse chapter six, verse two. He says, God forbid,
how shall we that are dead to sin leave any longer?
Therein so, actually, starting from verse one, says what shall
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we say? Then? Shall we continue in sin? That grace
may abound? That is a question that many people ask,
and then their answer is, you know, oh, no, we
cannot because we are dead to sin. But they don't
understand that the death that scripture is talking about actually
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means that when you come to the Lord Jesus Christ,
he kills you in a being. That's who you are,
because first of all, you are a spirit. You have
a soul, and you live in this body. Therefore, you
are not the body. Neither are you the soul. You
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are the spirit. Now when you come to Christ, when
you approach Christ, the first thing he does to you
is to kill that old nature and then immediately puts
his own spirit inside you. Romans eight nine says that
if you do not have the spirit of Christ in you,
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you don't even belong to him. That it separates the
world from the children of God, the family of God.
The first thing that happens is that your old man
dies and a new man is put inside you, which
makes you a child of God. The scripture you talked
about earlier that we were giving the power to become
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children of God. That power is the spirit of God
that comes inside you immediately. Now that's your spirit man.
Your soul has some renewing of the mind to do,
and then of course your body will eventually be changed
when we get resurrupted. So now when that scripture Romans six,
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verse two says that how can we who are dead
verse two, God forbid? How shall we that are dead
to sin live any longer? Therein so remember I said,
when you come to Christ, the first thing he does
to you is to kill you. That's exactly what was
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happening in the synagogue the top Knuckle. When anybody came there,
they brought a representation of themselves in the form of
a goat sheep. And what happened to that goat or sheep?
All your sins were laid on him, and that sheep
had to die on your behalf. That's exactly what's happening
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in because those were the types and shadows. Now in reality,
in Christ, when you come to Christ, the first thing
is that he kills you. Now, when I say he
kills you, it sounds very weirdd to some people. It's
not the physical killing, but spiritually the old man has
to die, yes, and a new man has to be
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reborn in you. That's the new birth. That's the born
again experience. We talk about. If you don't die. You
cannot be born again because you're already alive. I mean,
you look like you're alive. But if you're not in Christ,
you are dead. But technically you are alive. So why
do you need to be reborn? No, the reason why
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there is a ripbirth in Christ is that the old
man is killed when you come to Christ, and then
a new one is put inside you, and immediately you
become a new person. You will know, you will know,
your brain will not understand all the things that have
happened to you. But you look back, you will see
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that you are not the same as you were yesterday.
And that new birth is the one that cannot sin.
That verse is saying, how can we sin? We that
are dead to sin? Now, what part of us died
to sin? It's our old nature. When we came to
Christ and pronounced him as our lord and believe in
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our hearts that God has raised him from the dead.
Immediately he took away our old nature, which was derived
from Adam. The one we receive from Adam dies immediately,
and we get a new man, which is created after
God in righteous I said, in true holiness, allelujah. That's
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a Phician. Chapter four, verse twenty four. I might get
some of the addresses wrong, but I think this one
is good Ephesians four twenty four. Created after God in
true righteousness, and in righteousness and in true holiness. Now
that part of you is what cannot sin. So back
to this verse in Romance sixth, verse two, God forbid,
how shall we? How can we sin? When our old man,
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which was prone to sin, died when we came to Christ.
The new man we have received is the very spirit
of Christ that is in us, and that spirit cannot sin.
First Down, Chapter three, verse eight nine. He says that,
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and because we have the seed of Christ in us
and we cannot sing. Now let's come back to the natural.
How come we cannot sing? Because in the natural there
is also a scripture in the same First John that says,
if you say you don't say, you are a liar
and the truth is not in you, because in the
natural you do sin. Scripture says anything that is not
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done in faith is seen maybe counting from aight am
to this moment. There are so many things you and
I have done that we're not based on faith. That's
all same. But you see that sain is different from
the same we are talking about here, the sain that
actually is recorded in heaven as sin. You cannot sin?
Why because the spirit that you have in you is
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the spirit of Christ, and that spirit cannot sin. So
now this scripture becomes clearer, how can we that are
dared to sin leave any longer? Therein the reason we
cannot is that the part of us that was able
to sing was killed or crucified. You remember the scripture
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that says I am crucified with Christ. Nevertheless I live,
yet not I, but Christ that lives insiders. My question
to you is when Christ was crucified, did he not die?
The answer is he died. Right now, if you were
crucified with him, will you not die? If you do
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not die, then you weren't really crucified with him because
anybody that was crucified, the intention was to kill them.
And when you are crucified with Christ, you also die.
But which part of you was crucified with Christ? Is
your old ademic nature that was crucified with Christ? And
that part died? And the life we live now, praise God,
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is the new life we have received in Christ. Jesus, sorry,
I've taken too much time.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Go ahead, that's exactly right. And you know the new
nature that we get when we get born again, we
get a new nature. God God gives us. He tears
the old nature out, that old dead thing, and he
gets and he and he puts in a new heart.
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He gives us a new heart, a new nature. And
now you know, can it can a good god? Can it?
Can a good man do bad things? Can it? Can
a bad guy do good thing?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But that's it's not the nature, so you know, you
take it. I'll give a little example here in my hand.
I can you know, I can. I can turn this
guy over here and force him over here, but as
soon as I let go, he's gonna back, you know,
and and and resume what he needs to do. So
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can a good guy do bad things? Yeah? You can?
Can Can a can an evil man do good things? Sure?
But it's not the nature. You're going to return to
the nature that you're in it because it talks about
you know, the kingdom and who's who? Whose father is.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Do you belong to? You know?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Do you belong to the heavenly father and have his nature?
Or do you believe belong to an earthly father and
have his nature?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And that's the whole good news of the Gospel, is
that we can have, that, we can do, that we
can be born again. You know. First John John three, John,
Chapter three, Verse three says you know. It says basically
says you must be born again. You can't enter. I mean,
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you can't see the Kingdom of God unless you've been
born again. So do you want to see the Kingdom
of God, Well, you got to get born again. Then,
Verse seven says, I mean. Verse five says unless you're
born again, you can't enter the Kingdom of God. Do
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you want to enter the Kingdom of God? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I do.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I don't know about you, but I like you. In
verse seven, he says, well, marvel not. Don't be surprised
that I tell you. You must be born again. And
so you know, in other words, you need that nature change.
Let me let Jesus come into your heart and make
that nature change and cause you to walk in the
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uprightness of His holiness, and and and get out from
under the holiness that we try to drum up for ourselves,
because it never does work. We can't we can't compare.
And that was that was Jesus ministering to Nicodemus, who
is I mean, that's that's that was Jesus presenting the Gospel,
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the good News to somebody, and it worked for him,
and it can work for you. So all you have
to do is say, Lord Jesus, I want to see
into the kingdom. I want to enter into the kingdom.
I want to be born again. It's simple, Wow, my art,
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not complicated, very doable for anybody and everybody. And so
that's that's the good news, very very basically. And what
happens after you become born again, well, God has all
kinds of wonderful things. He's got the Word of God,
and we study it and we start learning how the
Christian really does live, how we're designed to operate as
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supernatural being. We are sent out just like those first
disciples were, to lay hands on the sick, to heal
the to heal people, and to raise people from the dead,
cast out demons that are that are oppressing people, and
to preach the gospel the good news to everybody in power.
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And so those were the things that that Emanuel and
I have both experienced, and and you gone to one
time I prayed for me and another friend of mine.
We prayed for a woman who couldn't understand our language. Okay,
she couldn't con't. She was speechless, she had no ability
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to talk. She was blind, and she had both feet
turned around backwards, completely backwards. They were pointing the wrong way.
She had a little walker, but she couldn't walk with
it because she her feet didn't go the right direction.
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And we, I mean, how do you minister to somebody
like that? How in the world can this even happen?
She couldn't understand us, she couldn't see it. She. I mean,
all we could do was obey the word of God,
says believers lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
We laid our hands on her, we prayed for her,
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and she all of a sudden, those feet turned around,
popped in and we heard them. I mean, it was
a crowd of people all around us, but we heard
her legs pop back into place, and her eyes opened up,
and her ears opened up, and she literally beat us
back up onto Pope on top of the podium to
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give testimony of what happened with her body. That's the
kind that's the supernatural wonder of God, and we get
to participate in it. If you're born again. That's normal.
We should see those kinds of things all the time.
But we have to believe. We can't believe the lies
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that some people tell us that that's all passed away,
or that that doesn't work anymore. Let me tell you
it does. I've seen it. It's happened under my hand.
I know it's true. You can't talk me out of
it when they talk to you out of gym.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
You remember I told you that I've seen the eyes, blind,
eyes open death. Yes, creple's walk. What do you call it?
Those paraplegic what do you call those ones with the
hands I'm not working. I've seen one in Australia.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I prayed for her and she stretched the hands out
started walking out of the wheelchair immediately. But then I said,
I haven't seen the dead race yet, but I am one.
I died at age three. Yeah, I died at age three.
And I'm not talking about the you know, spiritual dead
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and to be born again. No, I'm talking about physical death.
I died at age three. My father was a pastor
and he was out on the field doing crusades, and
the message was sent to him that I was dead.
I have a scar here My leg was swollen so
big it busted out and it died. I still have
I can put my finger in my tie up to
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this deep that's where, yeah, that's where the scar was.
And they sent to call my father. It took him
about three or four hours to come from the crusade
field to where I was dead. He came with his friend,
mister Bosman, and they prayed for me, and I woke
back up to life after having died for about five hours.
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I haven't seen the dead raised, but I was raised.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Dead worse because you're born again.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I'm born again again. Hallelujah. You understand.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
You know, that's that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
But those who said those things don't happen anymore. They
still pray, no pray.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And like like, for instance, meet me. I was saying,
you know, I was saying, I've never seen the dead raised,
and the Holy Spirit talked to me. He said, oh,
yes you have. I said, huh hello, what which one were?
And he said, your wife brought you a little dead
baby in to you to the at about three o'clock
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in the morning one time, and you you together prayed
for her and she came back to life. Yeah, and
she is a forty and you know, forty year old
woman now with children of her arm. And I'm going like,
you know, yeah, I have seen that, you know. And
then later on I did get to see somebody else
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that was that was raised. In fact, we were at
the kerass at a charras event, uh, and it was
there was a woman that brought a baby in and
put it on the stage and it was dead and
that and they all gathered around and began to pray
and that and life came back to that and that was.
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That was another time that we saw. And there's been
other other things where maybe they weren't as pronounced, but
they were you know, that they left and they came back,
you know. You know, it's not it's not abnormal. These
kinds of things happen in the in the supernatural rim
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and it's okay, it's not scary, it's not spooky, it's
not pocus focus. It's God's doing wonderful things like this,
and he, you know, the prophetic word. We Irene and
I both move in the prophecy, you know, and we
do a lot of personal prophecy. We'll prophesy over a
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person and we'll call out some things sometimes and they'll
they'll look at us with like like they have big eyes,
their eyes that get real big, and and go like,
how do you know that you know? And well, you know,
God told us. God God speaking to us about you
to help you understand that he's real and he doesn't mind,
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you know, revealing some things to you that only you
know that I couldn't possibly know, but I'm speaking them
to you. So therefore God told me. So it's proof
in the pudding that he is real and that he
is speaking to you at this very moment and trying
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to help you in your life. And that's what he
wants to be a real He wants to have a
real relationship with you. He wants to know you, he
wants to be intimate with you. He wants to talk
with you daily, hour by hour. He wants to give
you information and talk to you like another any other
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real person, because that's what he is. He a real person.
And once they have fellowship with you, that's the good news.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
And you know, he is the only one who can
know anybody personally because another human cannot know you. I mean,
they know you are there, but they can't really get
inside you and know you. Even you know, even for
some of us who are married, we know our wives
know us, but they just know us in the natural
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dip down inside. You can only have a real relationship
with the Lord Jesus Christ. He's the only one who
knows you who you are. The rest of the people
you know, when you travel through the airports, I like
just to see, you know, in the hall way and
just look at people walking about and going, and I
think a lot about these different faces that I see. Yes,
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they're all walking around as if it's like just bodies
walking around without any humans inside. But just as much
as you know yourself, every one of them also know themselves.
But the irony is that they cannot know another person.
The only one they can know deeply intimately is the
Lord Jesus Christ. And if you want to know Jesus Christ,
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finally you will find yourself as not lost in this world,
because many people are lost, just walking about in this world,
lost without any real relationship. And that's how the devil
can talk people into you know, oh, you are not
worth anything because nobody knows you. You're not worth anything
in your life is not up to the point where
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people do commit suicide and things like that is because
they are so lonely in this world. But once you
get to know the Lord Jesus Christ, that you will
find a purpose for your life and eventually know that
you are not alone. As you talk, Jesus is always
with you.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yes, absolutely, he is always always. I like that will
always part right there, because he's he never fails us,
he never leaves us, he never disappoints us. He's always there,
is a very present help in time of need. And
I need him all the time. I'm a continuous I
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need you Lord, you know, and so I'm just so
thankful that that you know that have have that have
that relationship with you. One of the one of the
First Corinthians, fourth chapter fourteen, it says, pursue love and
desire spiritual gifts. You know, once you meet love himself.
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And the only way you do that is by being
getting born again. And the person that you're going to
meet is love himself. Jesus is love for And Jonah says,
Jesus is love. I mean, that's what he's made out of.
You know that my line of who God is, God
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is love and he's full of God. And so whenever
we pursue love and make that the center point of
our life. Make Jesus the center point of our life.
Then as we know love himself, we also should be
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desiring the spiritual gifts that He wants to give us
so that we can operate like he did while he
was walking on earth. And the woman at the Well
is a beautiful example of him moving in in a gift,
you know, and the prophetic gift. I mean, he read
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her mail and told her, you know, yeah rightly, so
you haven't been, you know, and he called her out,
you know, and finally she's going, she's going in time.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Everybody, it was all about it, and you know.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
That happens today too. I mean, that exact same kind
of thing is a gift that you and I can
have because I utilize it. I've done it a million times.
I will whenever I go out to eat, and I
always ask God to give me a word for my waitress,
a waiter, whatever. And it's just amazing how many times
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he will give a word. Kind of like the woman
at the well. He'll reveal something. You go like, you're
not married, are you no? Okay, but you are going
with a guy, but he's the wrong one, and so
you know, you begin to you know, speak into somebody's
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life like that. What do they do? You know? I
mean I had one little waiter. I bet he came
back to my table fourteen or fifteen and every he
was just making up reasons to come and he come
kneel down by the table, wait on this to speak
into more into his life. You know what, It's just,
it's just, you know, but people need to hear a
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word from God. They need to see the spiritual gifts
flowing and working and active in somebody's life because it
identifies the Kingdom of God and it and it boldly
proclaims the proof and the pudding that it's there and
that it's something they can partake in. Very important important.
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So anyway, I tell me about some of the things
that you have seen Manuel, I want to I want
to hear about a few God your hand.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Yes. So backing to caw then, I think eighteen nineteen seventeen,
eighteen nineteen, I drove uber uber and lived on my
part time, and I loved the experiences of having a
passenger in your car locked up and they don't have
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no where to go for the next twenty minutes because
it's like they're in my church and I have to
have the honor to discuss things with them. I give
them the chance to talk to me, know them a
little bit. But there was this one incident. I mean,
I can tell you so many, but I'm going to
just mention one or two for the sake of time.
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There's a hospital here in Denver. I picked up a
lady that was brought by the nurses in a wheelchair
and when she got to my car, I had to
come out of the car and help her into the car.
And she wanted to tell me that her handbag was
under the wheelchair. She couldn't open her mouth. The job
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was like, you know, locked in, so she was just
trying to and the hands. This lady could not lift
her own leg into the car. The nurses had to
help her into the car. So when we got her
bag and I closed the car and I went around
and start in my seat. When I punched in the
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time the distance it was about twenty one minutes from
that spot. Wow, So I thought, thank god, I have
her for twenty one minutes. Now what am I going
to do? I thought, Oh, let me play her some
gospel music or some preaching from Andrew Walmarck or something.
But then I decided, know, I'm going to talk to
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her about the love of God. I started talking to
her about the love of God. Love of God. About
five minutes into the trip, the LIFs that were cring
together and couldn't open started opening and smiling. I saw
differences in her face. I just kept telling her about
how God loves her and that the devil is the
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one putting the sickness on her, and God doesn't want that,
and God can heal her today.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
When we got to the destination, I parked the car
as usual, I'm walking around to can help her to
get out. I was already wondering how is she going
to walk from the car to her apartment when she
came in on a wheelchair. By the time I walked around,
she was out of the car and standing. Oh wow,
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I said, you look like you're a new person. She goes,
I am a new person.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Amen. You know what, God makes us all all things new.
That is so cool, man.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
I love that, I'm telling you. As she walked back
to her apartment, I looked at her and I said,
not then, but glory bead to you. Jesus for the
second time. I'll just mentioned one more one that blew
me away. So I pick up a lady and when
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I stopped, you know you usually stop and wait in
the car for that person to come in the car.
I saw her on the other side of the road.
I waited about two three minutes. She wasn't crossing. Then
I saw, oh, she has a cane, a white cane
that shows she's blind. So I rode down my window
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and said, oh, wait for me there, I will come around.
So I turned around, went and helped her into the car.
When I pointed the destination, she was going only two
minutes away from me, just to the war match. The
war mat is just there. But because she's blind, she
took the ride. So I thought, oh, I only have
two minutes. What am I going to do in two minutes?
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So I turned around. We were already there, so before
she came out of the car, I said, no, I'm
not going to let her go for free. I'm going
to say something, So I said, has anybody prayed for
you before? For your eyes? She goes, no, this is
a young lady. By the way, She was about maybe
twenty one twenty two, young lady. Yeah, she said no.
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I said, would you mind if I pray for you?
She goes, yeah, you can pray for me. So we
are right in front of Walmart, by the way, right
in front of Walmart where the people are coming out
of Walmart. So I didn't want to put my hand
on a lady's head in front of Walmart. So I
just held her hand and I said, blindness, in the
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name of Jesus, I command you to before I finished praying.
She my eyes are still closed. She shouts. I can see.
I can see. I go what you can't. And at
this time I'm surprise because I haven't finished my prayer.
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I haven't finished praying yet. She goes, I can see.
I said, you can. She goes yeah. I said, oh wait,
I haven't finished pray.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Got a little anxious on you. That is so good,
I said, you.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Know, I tried to do what they do on TV.
I see you all these evangelists. I said, how many
fingers do I have? She goes one, how many? Three?
How many? She hugs me. Oh, thank you. I said, no, you,
lets tell Jesus together. She goes, oh, really, Jesus, brother,
this lady. They didn't even know Jesus. But the love
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of God that like you talk about Jesus, is love.
There's no one to explain it. It's not it does that, Louiah.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
I mean, God loves us, that's why it heals us
stuff for it. But called he loves us the whole
nine yards, you know. And and that's who he is,
that's his nature and we have his nature so we
can go around doing what he did. I love it.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
This lady comes out of the car.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
One of those eye opening experiences as well. I think Salteo, Mexico,
and we were having a meeting and Pastor David Brown
and I and two or three other pastors were there.
Back Maldonatto I think was there. I can't remember who
all was there, but anyway, we were up on the
platform we're praying for. It came prayer time and we
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were praying for everybody. So I was going down the
aisle and this little Hispanic lady she was looking. She
looked up at me and her eyes were white as
a sheet of paper. I mean just pure white. You know,
I can see any I mean the entire would totally
what well, she couldn't see anything at all, you know,
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and so I prayed for her. I laid my hands
on top of her, you know eyes, and prayed for her.
And whenever I moved my hands away, these beautiful brown
eyes just the white was totally drawn and gorgeous. I'm
doing the Bennie hen you know what dogs bress, you know,
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and I'm it was. It was amazing. It was one
one wonderful. Well, the very next night, same place, the
same kind of the situation, here comes another set of
white eyes. Yes, so hey, move out of the way.
I've got this. And and so I go over and
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I pray for this lady and not nothing didn't happen.
I take my hands off, as white as they could be,
you know, I'm moving on down the and uh and
you know, I'm still praying for people and whatnot. And
all of a sudden there's a commotion going on down
That's what's happening. You know. We go back and it's
that lay. But she still got white eyes. She can
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see through the thing again. Count one, right, and she
can see right through it. Playing back home. While I
was going, like on a trip back home, I was
going like, God, you did that just to just count,
didn't you. Yeah, I did you know? And I was
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going like, yeah, okay, well I'm sorry, I repent that
I was dead, you know, stepping over the line there.
But thank you for healing her in spiting me. But
you know, God is just so good.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
He is just so good.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
He can't help but be and do things in and
through us. And when we suit up with Jesus, we're
the most powerful thing on earth. There's there's no force
on the earth that's any greater than a Christian believer
that suited up in the likeness of Jesus and tuned
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into his ear. You know, the word of God is
like a tuning fork. It tunes your your spiritual ears
into the voice of God. You know, whenever, whenever they
have counterfeit money, they put real money in people's so
that they're familiar with real money and they feel counterfeit.
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So this is, this is the Word of God. Is
what we're given to know, to discern what you know,
and to match up and compare to so that we
know the truth compared to the counterfeit. You know, when
Jesus was was tempted in the in the garden, it
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was Jesus. Jesus come at him with the truth over
and over again. That's how you fee him. And he
would sly. He was smart. He just twisted it a
little bit and he thought he could beat him, but
he couldn't because he knew the truth. And that's the
way we need to be. We need to be full
of the truth because we need to be able to
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discern the lies of the devil. We need to be
able to to understand the voices that we hear and say,
no way that came out of the wrong kingdom. I'm
not I'm not pitching up with that. And it's that's
a really good thing to ask yourself if you're if
you wonder what this information that you just heard you
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just saw, just always ask and and and God never
tires from it from being able to tell you. But
if you'll ask him, say what kingdom did that come out?
Or do I do I embrace it or do I
repel it? Do I need to resist? Or do I
need to receive? And he'll tell you what it was
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is right there, and he will speak plainly to you,
and he'll bring up the word of God and your remembrance,
and you can test it right there because the word
that he puts in your heart, you'll know, You'll just
you know. And I love the way that God teaches
sometimes because he speaks in volumes. He doesn't, he didn't,
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he didn't speak like the Word of God does. You
don't want reading like la like a lion. All of
a sudden, you just know and you know that you know,
volumes boom, and that's the that's the good, I mean,
that's the that's the ability that God has to speak
the complete message and just one thought puts it right
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in you all of a sudden, you know, you know,
it's like to know and be known that that's to
be the presence of the Lord. And we can enjoy
that now here in this life instant.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
It is good. Brother. The night I got born again,
I mean just talking about knowing the night I got
born again. Now, just a little bit of history. I
am a pastor's son, so I had been around church
for a long time. I was even on the worship team,
but I didn't have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
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And at age twenty one, I met a group of bandsmen.
We were playing music together and after one of our sessions,
we are sitting down and one of them is reading
the Bible, and I knew there was something different about
that guy. So I sat by him a little bit.
He turned around and asked me, do you know Jesus
is here right now? The moment he said that, for
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the first time in my life, I knew already he
is here. Instantly, Wow, I was born again, a new
person right now. I have goosebumps all over me.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
I need to That's cool.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
And anybody here on the online with us, listening or
even afterwards watching this, Jesus is right there with you.
And all you need to do is open your mouth,
open your heart and ask him to come in. And
instantly he wants to come in more than you want
him to come in. Go ahead, Fred, No, why.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
Don't you go ahead and lead that. We're just about
out of time anyway, I really do want you to
just leave people in prayer and pray. Pray over our audience,
and once again, I just encourage anybody to write a
little note. We'll try to get back with you. We'll
try to and I'm gonna put a little a prayer
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line you can call of who had manual. Let's just
leave in that because somebody might want to be born again,
somebody might want to receive the baptism and the Holy
Spirit so they can walk in power and operate in
these things that we've been talking about tonight. Yes, so
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listen to Emanuel his general.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
See the promises of God are all yes and amen.
When he says that whosoever calls upon the name of
the Lord shall be saved. That statementus Yes. You can
take it to the bank, and it works. It works
all the time. It cannot bounce. The promises of God
are yes and amen. And he is waiting, arms wide
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open and waiting. Just like the protocol sun coming home.
The Father was always out on the porch waiting for
the son to return. It doesn't matter what you have done.
The good news is Christ came to save the sinners.
He didn't come to say right people. So don't count
yourself out. Don't say I've gone too far. I don't
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think I can be saved. My sins are too many. No,
you are the right candidate for salvation because Jesus came
to save the lost, the lost to come and redeem us.
And he already did all it takets to save you.
What it's left is for you to acknowledge him and
to receive him, because your sins have been paid for
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already by the Lord Jesus Christ two thousand years ago
on the cross. There's nothing holding you back. The only
ten left is for you to acknowledge Him as your
Lord and savior, and salvation becomes yours. And there is
a scripture in Romance, chapter eight, Chapter ten, verses nine
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and ten that I'm going to coach to you. It
says that if you shall say or confess with your
mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall belie, believe in your
heart that God has raised him from the dead, you
shall be saved. For with the heart one believes onto righteousness,
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and with the mouth confession is made onto salvation. So
two things, two things. The mouth is what makes you
say or confess to gain your salvation. With your heart,
you have to believe. Now these are the only two things,
if there were the only two things you have to
do on earth before Jesus returns. That's what I've told
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you right now. Believe, receive Jesus and his word is
yes and aiming, and he shall never disappoint you. Thank you.
If you have praid this prayer, please call that number
on the screen and there will be somebody here to
help you through your journey in Christ Jesus. Thank you
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very much.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Amen. That prayer line is eight oh six three four
zero zero one six two eight o six three four
zero zero one six two. And there's folks there that
can speak Spanish and English war English, and they will
be glad to pray with you and pray for anything
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that you might have a need about. And so avail
yourself of that number. Emmanuel. Thank you so much, dear brother.
I enjoyed visiting with you tonight. And it's just just
just such a joy to know other Christians and to
get to hang out with people.
Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Some of you.
Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
You know, running to and fro across the face, but
it's kind of nice. We get to land in one
spot together for a while fighting. So God Is just
has the miraculous ability to link together parts of that
are like minded. And I just enjoy knowing you and
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knowing a little more about you. I love your testimonies tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Thank you so much, Fred for having me. I appreciate
this and that I would like to do it anytime
that you have another chance. God bless you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Thank you. Well. Listen everybody up there that are that
they are listening tonight. We just thank you for listening
into us and to participate. If you will go ahead
and avail yourself of the website or leave us a
little a note so that we can try to maybe
get back to you. Call that number for the hotline,
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do something to kind of connect in. We want we
want to make you that a part of us, not
just me and Emmanuel, but we want to bring that
third dimension into play. And we want who not only
minister to you, but we want to know who you
are and we want to have fellowship with you as well.
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So that's good. Tell your friends if you can ring
those little bells, tell your friends to tune in to us.
We always appreciate it whenever somebody will share our content,
and we are on all kinds of different platforms and
so they all have a little different gizmo to tribe
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or or do this or do that. Anyway, all that
does help us to get the word out a little
bit better. So thank you so much, Thank you again, Emmanuel,
and just we're just going to say good night, and
God bless you and.
Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Jesus, God bless you.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
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