Gift or Grift? Trump Gets a “Gift” from Qatar of New Boeing 747 Worth Hundreds of Millions 5/12/25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Mothers everywhere and Mother's in memory everywhere. You're just
coming down from your big day. It was a special
Mother's Day, maybe one of the best concocted holidays that
we have, you know, I mean, I get it. We
have Valentine's Day, we have President's Day, we have all

(00:24):
of these days that we sort of created, you know,
the Independence Day, et cetera. I kind of feel Mother's
Day is the leader of the pack. I mean, of
all of the entities, of all of the creatures, of
all of the things that need celebrating and a little
bit of gratefulness. I really feel moms fall into that category.

(00:45):
So for those of us who have moms, and for
those of us who remember our mom's fondly, I hope
you had a wonderful day. Kim is a mom actually,
and she's a how are you mom that I look
up to because she really manages her kids. It seems
very well. And I hope you had a happy Mother's Day, Kim.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
It was a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, you didn't never rescue any of your kids from
the surf.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
This Mother's Day? Quiet, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, it is a great to have both Kim and
Tony on board. Tony managed a poll I think which
is up, which is about the Katari gift to Donald Trump.
And if you want to weigh in on that, you can.
They call it a gift because to call it a

(01:36):
bribe just they pulled it and it didn't you know,
in the vogus groups, bribe did not play as well
as gifts. So they're going with gift everyone, and that's
the word from the Qataris, and it's a gift. And
of course it was. It raised a few eyebrows, and
we will discuss it today. In fact, we'll discuss it

(01:58):
in just a few minutes. Seven forty seven lies to
justify more Qatar bribery, says Harry Magnan with a seven
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You okay, if that's them a list?

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Did you add all our new contributors to our credits
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what did you do for Mother's Day? Tony?

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Please tell us, Well, traffic's way too much to get
too heavy to get to my mom's house on Mother's
Day weekend, and restaurants are so it was last weekend.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
I did Mother's Day with her.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Oh that's cool. Yeah, that's a lot.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
We just do it the week before. It's like, she's okay,
that's better. Yeah, my god, I.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Have paid for dinner.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Damn No. Well, you know that's something that you'll deal
with eventually someday, Kim, I did the same thing with
my mom. You know, she's back in Washington, d C. Sure,
and she's ninety five. It was her birthday yesterday. Yeah.
Instead of being there for the actual day, I was

(04:39):
there the week before. There were a lot of reasons
for that. But she was cool with it, and I'm
sure you'll be cool with it whenever your kids. Yeah,
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because he's just so great. So without any further at delay,

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How about it for the great Anthony Davis, everyone from
the Minus Cushion Network. Oh my goodness, quite special. He's

(07:54):
left his home of the UK and come here to
civilize us here in the colonies. And how is it
going Anthony Davis?

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Next question?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Five minute News is just one of the shows that
Anthony Davis does. He does the weekend news, does the
what's the one you do on Wednesdays?

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Wednesdays is uncovered with yeah, and then Sunday is the
weekend show, and then weekend show. Every day during the
week you get a five minute news update which is
never five minutes. And people continue to complain to me
and they go, why is it fourteen minutes long? And
I don't know about you, but I would have thought

(08:42):
that they would be like, this is added value, like
the idea that it's it's I'm short changing them somehow.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Making twice complaint.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
It's a very odd complaint, but I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, well, all right, let's put you to work right away.
I am getting look the suspension of habeas etc. We'll
get into that a little bit. Later, and even in
this conversation, I don't take it seriously. I don't think
it's really possible. I don't believe. I think that's going
to be a bridge too far for them. Now, they
may find a way to do it in this government
because they have nothing but sort of a sycophantic, yes

(09:19):
infused world of people around them. But even with that,
I think suspension of Habeas corpus is going to be
a tough climb. So I'm going to put it to
the side for the moment, even though it would be
normally the biggest story that would vaunt to I think,
to the to the vault, to the top, I should say,
but I think this Katari gift of the seven forty seven,

(09:42):
it's more than just click bait. It is absolutely outrageous,
and a guy who has run a foul of the
Emolument's clause in the Constitution prohibiting contributions from foreign governments.
This guy has run a foul of those I'm talking
about Trump through Trump one and now through Trump too,
doing it through the mean Coin, doing it through his

(10:03):
hotels and his resorts, et cetera. We've seen all the
ways in which foreign governments can money him. But this
is just a massive, massive chunk of payoff and bribe
and I'm going to be very curious to see if
this washes down. He supposedly, by the way, and then
I'll let you speak, Anthony, but he supposedly has the

(10:24):
blessing of his Attorney General Pam Bondi on this, so
it's legal.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Well, he has the blessing of Pambondy on everything, doesn't he?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Right me?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
She really does not waiver. There is no independence of
the Department of Justice anymore. Those days are over. But
of course they project and they claim that Merrick Garland
was the one that wasn't, you know, independent doing a
proper job. Let me tell you something, if Merrick Garland
wasn't independent, Trump would be imprisoned by now. But you know,

(10:52):
he kind of tried to give the impression he wasn't
siding with Democrats, I guess, and so therefore, you know,
it ended up with just being a bit of a
soft touch. And some have a theory that you know,
the guy deep down is a conservative anyway and didn't
really want to see through with any of those things.
But to your question, let's go back a little bit
when Trump was president last time. He's always hated these

(11:14):
two seven forty seven two hundred series aircraft or one
hundred series, they really old seven forty sevens that are
currently Air Force one. Of course there's two of them
in case, you know, one has a problem, they have
another one, but also they sometimes fly to around one
as a decoy. Various things. He because you know, he's
had his own private seven fifty seven and he likes

(11:36):
the certain level of luxury, and this plane is is
getting on a bit. And so what he did was
in order to kind of speed up the tender process,
which there was never was a tender process. He always
was going to give it to Boeing to you know,
recreate the new seven seven eight hundred series, which incidentally
is was a commercial disaster and they don't really build anymore.

(11:58):
They do a freight of but he basically said, look,
I need a deal. I need a discount because I'm
Donald Trump and it's the art of the deal. And
so instead of doing the proper thing, which was giving
Boeing the job of working with the US military to
build from scratch two seven forty seven eight hundred series

(12:19):
to a military grade standard four Air Force one, he
found two discarded Russian seven Force sevens that were on
the field because the Russian airline that Boeing built them
for went bust. So he got them cheap. He got
them for basically half the price. He thought that was
the deal, the art of the deal. Pay cheap, pay

(12:41):
twice because now Boeing have to convert a passenger civilian
seven for seven into a military grade one. It's impossible.
I mean, you can do it, but it's going to
end up costing twice as much and take ten times longer.
And so that's where we're at. We're basically in a
situation now where he is desperate the new plane that
he ordered, but of course he can't get it because

(13:04):
he cheaped out in the first place and didn't let
Boeing do their job. And so he loves the performative
aspect of all of this, you know, he doesn't care
about whether it's up to standard. He just wants his jets.
And so in the interim he's found a workaround.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Right right, Although it's not as though he's just renting
this car and dropping it at the airport when his
business trip is done.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
He's taking it with him. Gets he gets to keep it.
But I'm less concerned about the corruptions aspect of this
story because the guy is corrupt, right, that's no big surprise.
And he loves in his seven fifty seven. He's like
thirty years old, and that's ready for the scrap heap anyway.
So he sees this as when I'm not president anymore,
I get this beautiful plane. So I don't have a

(13:53):
problem with that, because Trump is you know, that's his
criminal mind. I have a problem with the fact that
the national security is compromised because this plane has not
been built to American military standards. This has been built
for the Kataris. This is a completely different aircraft. And
so what is Trump going to fly around in it

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as if it's a kind of interim air Force one
and it not be to the to the security standards
that are required by the US military.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
That's exactly what he's going to do.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
That that's my concern and why I'm suddenly concerned for
the for the health of this guy.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
You know, well, it's not even the health I mean,
And you can talk about the intelligence failure administration already
be exactly another one. So I think you're right to
focus on that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
And you know the other thing is the Katari's they're
no friend of the United States. They are that their
their friends are in the Middle East. You know. They
they will say anything and do anything to do deals,
of course, and they're very business oriented. But in terms
of our they trustworthy ally who knows. And the point

(15:03):
that I'm really making is they could give him a
plane that he's bugged. They could give him a plane
that is tracked. They could give him a plane that
he's compromised, and he doesn't really care.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah. I want to play a little bit of what
Trump is saying about this, Tony. Play a little bit
of Trump from marking on this when asked a question
about you know, what is this about? Doesn't this fly
in the face of ethics, etc. People who knew that
luxury chat as a personal gift to you?

Speaker 6 (15:34):
Why not leave it by ABC News? Why not only
only ABC?

Speaker 7 (15:38):
Well a few of you would, let me tell you, you should.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Be embarrassed asking that question.

Speaker 7 (15:45):
They're giving us a free jet. I could say, no, no, no,
don't give us. I want to pay you a billion
or four hundred million or whatever it is. Or I
can say thank you very much. You know there was
an old golfer named Sam Snee. Did you ever hear what?
Eighty two tournaments. He was a great golfer, and he
had a motto. When they give you a putt, you

(16:06):
say thank you very much, You pick up your ball,
and you walk to the next hole. A lot of
people are stupid. They say no, no, I insist start
putting it. Then they put it, they miss it, and
their partner gets.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Angry at them. You know what, remember that, Sam Steve, When.

Speaker 7 (16:20):
They give you a putt, you pick it up, and
you walk to the next hole, and you say thank
you very much.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, so he sees it as a look, it's a
gift to take it and then move on. I see
the I'm not really quite as willing to walk past
the ethical violation as you are. I mean, I understand
and accept what you're saying and agree completely that this
is an administration that is first about grift. It is

(16:47):
the first primary directive of this administration is the grift.
It's moneying themselves. They were doing it before they were
even inaugurated, in fact, using the inauguration itself as a
way to grift millions and millions in tens of millions
of dollars came in from donors, from those who are
trying to curry favor with the new administration. But this
is a flying piece of grift. And more to your point,

(17:11):
when you add the fact that it's not really I mean,
I guess it'll be vetted by DoD for various compromises
and security et cetera. But can't you're seeing it in
the chat people want me to ask you, don't you
think it'll be bugged? Don't you think it will be
from intelligence standpoint, just a huge mess.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Well, it's all of those things. But also there's only
one of them, right, it's not getting two identical planes
as the specification requires for Air Force one. So he
clearly is turning the presidency as was, into this autocracy
that he just basically operates by his own rules. And

(17:50):
that means that you know that is I would I
would have said that the rules governing air Force one
and how the president travels are probably the most important
national security thing, right because he's carrying the nuclear codes
and all of that stuff. It's probably like at the
very very top. And that's the bit that he just

(18:10):
wants to compromise because he prefers a certain type of
leather chair and likes a certain type of interior finish
with because of course, if it's a Middle Eastern plane,
it's going to be all gold and all that lovely
stuff that he really likes, you know, like Putin's Palace.
And so this is what we're dealing with. We're dealing
with somebody who cares nothing for the Constitution, cares nothing

(18:30):
for national security, cares nothing for justice, cares nothing for
civil rights, and is entirely corrupt. Everybody can see it.
We better get used to it because it ain't changing
anytime soon. This is where the United States has gone.
And everybody who voted for him, they should have known
this in advance, because most of us have been shouting
about it for a decade. And so you know, why

(18:53):
are we surprised? It's only going to get worse from here?
I mean, look at the trajectory of authoritarianism from January
to May. That the graph goes up, that's what it does.
And grabbing people off the streets, arresting the mayor of Newark,
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah? And then that's just the beginning. I mean, this
is what I'm saying. Public officials coast to coast. Yes,
of course, just to round out the plane. And I'll
give the press at least credit for this. I guess
you can't let this pass without asking about it. I mean,
it's a huge story, the Trump administration accepting this plane
from the Katari royal family. It'll be retrofitted and used

(19:32):
as Air Force one during the President's second term. When
pressed if she, the Press Secretary for the White House,
believe this gift would require something in return, Levitt said
absolutely not, because they know President Trump and they know
he only works with the interests of the American people

(19:52):
in mind. Yeah, exactly which American people? Who is the president?
Donald President said that the Defense Department plans to accept
the luxury jet as a gift free of charge. He
said that on social media and capital letters, so it
must be true, and he said the multimillion dollar jet
will be used on a temporary basis. It's a very

(20:14):
public and transparent transaction. I love that the transparency is
associated with the fact that there's no way to hide it,
you know what I mean. And these same things are
happening with his mean coin and the digital currencies that
are being traded hundreds of millions of dollars being made
from trading both buying his mean coins and also trading

(20:35):
them on his platform, that World Liberty platform.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
And none of it is traceable. This is the other
thing about buying crypto is that it's completely all the
transactions are untraceable, and Trump is making a profit on
every transaction as well as the amount. This also a
transaction fee every time, So he and his family have
become enriched to the tune of billions of dollars since
he took the presidency. But you know, he's not taking

(21:01):
his salary, so really we should be very thankful for
the fact that he's the only president to not have
taken a salary. And thank you, mister t appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
It's important that we now move to what's happening with
this immigration mess. So people are scooped up, they are
moved into detention facilities. What's now happening in increasing numbers
is people are scooped up. They're moved to an initial
detention facility, then they're moved to a different one. Then

(21:34):
they're moved to a third one, a fourth one, even
a fifth one. They're moved all over the country like
whack a mole. Lawyers have to try to figure out
where their clients are in order to try to get
them the due process that we talk about. So we
get to habeas corpus and the fact that all people,
not just American citizens, need their moment before a judge

(21:56):
for due process. Might that be suspended? I mean, clearly
it's been ignored. In the case of the initial group
that was sent to El Salvador, they were claiming to
have deported all of these Venezuelan gang members. Clearly that's
not true. It's not true in three of them that
we know, and probably another seventy three beyond that, and

(22:17):
maybe more who knows. But not saying they're good guys,
not saying they shouldn't be deported, but just saying they
do get the due process. In the immigration courts, it's
moved very rapidly, you know this, Anthony Davis. It moves
like almost like traffic court. Can we run a little
bit of Stephen Miller for Anthony, And this is Stephen
Miller responding to the question about suspending habeas corpus and

(22:43):
might that be something that the administration is looking into?
And he says, yes, it is.

Speaker 8 (22:47):
The Constitution is clear, and that, of course, is the
supreme law of the land that the privilege of the
writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time
of invasion. Sold say, that's an option we're actively looking at. Look,
a lot of it depends on whether the courts through
the right thing or not. At the end of the day,
Congress passed the body of law known as the Immigration

(23:08):
Nationality Act, which stripped Article three courts. That's the judicial
branch of jurisdiction over immigration cases. So Congress actually passed
is called jurisdiction stripping legislation. It passed a number of
laws that say that the Article three courts aren't even
allowed to be involved in immigration cases. Many of you
probably don't know this. I'll give you a good example.
Are you familiar with the term Temporary protect the Status

(23:31):
or TPS.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Right, So, by statute.

Speaker 8 (23:35):
The courts are stripped of jurisdiction from overruling a presidential
determination or a secretarial determination on TPS when the Secretary
of Home Insecurity makes that determination. So when Secretary Nome
terminated TPS for the illegals that Biden flew into the country,
when courts stepped in, they were violating explicit language that
Congress had enacted saying they have no jurisdiction. So it's

(23:58):
not just the courts aren't just at war with the
executive branch. The courts are at war, these radical rog
judges with the legislative branch as well too. So all
of that will inform the choice of the president ultimately
makes yes.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
So basically what he's tipping is the fact that they'll
declare some kind of invasion threat. Again, that's going to
be the flank that they're going to pursue.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Well, apparently we're already under attack by Venezuelan gangs, and
that is why we are in this current situation where
they are making use of the Alien Enemies Act. And
I mean, it's all gibberish. The whole thing is gibberish.
You know, this guy is advising the president. He is
the senior policy guy. So when the president speaks, it's

(24:44):
because Stephen Miller has whispered in his ear. And Stephen
Miller clearly is a white supremacist and xenophobe and somebody
who has a completely different view of the world to
most of the world. And that is where the president
is getting his advice and you remember the other day
when they were set they said to Trump, you know
what about making Stephen Miller your National security advisor? And

(25:06):
he was like, oh, well, that would be a demotion,
which suggested to me that Stephen Miller really is the
guy who's kind of running all the policy for this country.
Trump is over it. He doesn't want to really be involved.
He is delegated to some very dangerous people like Russell
Vote and you know, people that are embedded in Project

(25:27):
twenty twenty five. So none of this comes as a
surprise to any of us who talked about Project twenty
twenty five three or four years ago, who recognized what
their plan was. We just have to acknowledge that this
is the way it is now, and I'm done with
being shocked and surprised. They will do away with Habeas Corpus,

(25:49):
and as far as I can understand it, unless the
Supreme Court, I don't know, has some kind of bypass,
you are looking at a very extraord em Supreme Court
that will side with Trump on pretty much everything. Amy
Cony Barrett is the lynchpin here because she tends to
I don't know what's happening of some kind of Catholic

(26:10):
guilt or something that's getting to her. But she seems
to be kind of leaning in with with the you know,
dissenting liberals on the court a couple of times. But
you know, I just feel like, you know, this is
what we warned of. This is the dystopian future that
is now our present, and it's not going to change

(26:30):
any time soon. So of course immigrants are not going
to get due process, and the only way to fight
it is in the courts, one case at a time.
And you know, liberal legal cases are winning. Trump is
losing in court, but they're trying to run the clock,
and so you know, the more stuff they can stuff

(26:52):
into initially one hundred days and now beyond is just
again it's just making it so difficult to wear people down.
Where people this is exactly what Hitler did. You know,
This is people get worn down by the by the
dictatorial nature of the regime, and eventually they succumb.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Well, it's interesting that, you know, when you say, of
course this is happening, and of course that is happening,
I say, of course also because we all know what
hymn they're singing from. But I do think it has
to be fought at every single turn. I don't think
you can just kind of stipulate to the fact like, yeah,
they're gonna getrid of Pavior's corpus, and yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
He's I'm not being defeatest, I'm being realistic, And this
is this is the problem. I don't think people in
this country have really heard this type of talk before.
You know, there's always got you know, movies in America
get screen pre screens to audiences, and they never like
it when people die at the end, the lead characters,
so they tend to then go back and reshoot the

(27:52):
ending of the movie so that it's a happy ending
and everyone's happy. Well, I'm terribly sorry, but this is
not how it works in the real world. You can't
just reshoot the end of this particular sequence. And so
there is this, you know, exceptionalism baked into American culture,
and it's nobody's fault. But you know, the US has

(28:15):
been very lucky in its short lifespan that it has
not been invaded, it's not had any of this, you know,
the kind of trials and tribulations that European nations have
been through. And that's why the European Union recognizes the
threat of fascism and is dealing with it, and he's
doing something about it, and he's making strides, But here

(28:36):
in the US it's still like it could never happen here.
To kind of phrase, that's an absolutely right and that's
what we're dealing with.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I think that's such a clean summary. I mean, I've said,
we've just gotten fat and happy, We're gotten complacent, and
this fascistic authoritarian creep was occurring this entire time. Then
of course the deviceive nature of our politics only helped
to enable it. But just to round out the situation
with the immigration and kind of news of immigration, I

(29:08):
believe the I don't know how to say her last name,
the Tufts University doctoral student is at rumesia Os Turk
Romza Romesa Osterk. She was released from federal custody. This
happened Friday after we got off the air, and the
judge in Vermont ordered the Trump administration to free her.
She was with her lawyer, she spoke before the media,

(29:31):
and she was moved to an immigration detention center in Louisiana.
We had that story on the show, you know, some
weeks ago, which in itself was a kind of cruelty,
and there's a trauma that she'll live with having been
innocently pursuing her life as a researcher and then scooped
up on the street by these you know, jack booted
thugs who work for the government now.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
And we're seeing this everywhere. You know, it started with
Mahmoud Khalil, and you know he was of Columbia University
and that seemed pretty shocking. Notice there's always a video
camera around to record this stuff. We saw one over
the weekend with a mother being ripped from her child
in the street and all the neighbors piling in and

(30:13):
screaming at the ice agents. It was the most horrifying
and devastating thing to see. And this is going on
all the time, and this is our reality now. You know,
a lot of these ICE agents are also white supremacists.
A lot of law enforcement are white supremacists. You know,
it's no coincidence that black people were getting a shot

(30:35):
by police at the side of the road without a trial,
and so, you know, we have to be realistic about
what's going on here. This is the result of decades
of effort behind the scenes by this MAGA Republican movement,
call it what you will call it Project twenty twenty five,
call it the former ku Klux Klan. I don't know

(30:56):
who they are, but they all seem to have the
same view of America. And that is that America. And
I'm going to quote Stephen Miller from the RNC, America
is for Americans and Americans only.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, and then that is what they want. Who and
what is an American is? That's the whole game, right,
is the interpreting? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (31:14):
I mean, did you hear Trump describing this new pilot
that he met on Air Force one in the flight deck.
He said he looked at him and he was like, Wow,
you're perfect. You're like Tom Cruise, but better looking. You're just,
and I quote him, a perfect specimen. He was white,
he had pearly white teeth, he had a good head
of hair. He was tall and strong and handsome. And

(31:37):
Trump was describing this and salivating, right, And I was thinking,
you know, this is weird. But Trump is obsessed with
eugenics and genes and bloodlines, and that is what they want.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
It's funny we have eugenics professor coming on I think
than the next ten days or so. It's a really
intriguing conversation about just that I wouldn't be a responsible
host if I didn't quickly touch on the China tariffs.
I'm going to touch on them with Gary Dietrich coming
up in a moment also. But I wanted to get

(32:15):
these on again off again tariffs. I wanted to get
your thought on it because on some level we knew
that the tariffs weren't going to continue, essentially an embargo
on Chinese goods, you'd have to drop them, reduce them substantially. Well,
that's what's happened. They've been all effectively dropped.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
It would seem well, it was just a waste of
six weeks, wasn't.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
It, And and and tons of money I mean.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Wiped off of the world markets. Yeah, so that this
is the kind of this is the level of incompetence
that we're dealing with. I mean, when Trump stood in
the rose garden with that kind of that sheet of
paper with those numbers on it, everybody was like, hang
on a second, like this is a bit weird. And
then people were trying to work out the equation. How

(33:00):
did he come to that percentage? He took what they
did in this then you'd take that away from that,
and you add that to that, and it was like
it was so random and weird, and then you know,
people starting to realize he just doesn't really know what
international trade is. He thinks that this kind of trade
deficit is because we're buying more than they are, and
therefore they're ripping us off. But their economy is a

(33:21):
quarter of the size of our economy. They don't have
the buying power that we have, so it's equal. He
doesn't get it. Look, the interesting twist with this is
that Project twenty twenty five believes in free trade. There's
nothing in that nine hundred page document about tariffs. Tariffs
comes from Trump and things from like thirty years ago,

(33:42):
you know, like Reagan and this whole idea of taking
back control to coin a Brexit phrase, and you know,
he's just living in the past. He doesn't understand how
the world works, and so he basically just costs the
world a trillion dollars through his incompetence and his use
of gibberish in place of English, and we're all having

(34:04):
to pay the price for it. I mean, four a
one k is for a perfect example. So you know,
I am not surprised that we're back where we are
and claiming that we can have a reset with China.
China hasn't uttered a word, they haven't spoken. They've literally
sat tight lipped and watched Trump do this to himself.
It's embarrassing. It's a It's given world leaders and education

(34:28):
in how to handle Trump, which is basically say nothing.
Putin's doing it too. Just wait and watch him hang himself.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
It is true. I mean it's true, first the Chinese
negotiators didn't meet in Geneva with the American negotiators. Best
enter the rest. But it's also true that on the
Russia thing, it appears that we're coming around to the
Russia side again. I mean, you know, even more aggressively now.
And you're right, there's been no high profile propriate from
negotiation that has led to that. It was just it

(34:58):
was it's a high profile term learn that Trump is
making on his own or the administration is making on
his own.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
But it shows that Project twenty twenty five have sway
in the Trump regime. And you know, he went out
on his own and did this a little bit like
Gulf of America, and you know, all these kind of
you know, no more paper straws, plastic straws about like,
that's the stuff that Trump is into it. It's like
marketing and branding. And so they let him do tariffs
and then he screwed it up and so Project twenty

(35:26):
twenty five. They believe in free trade and that's not
because they're liberal, it's because that's how you make the
most money.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Find Anthony Davis on the Midas Touch Network. Oh my god,
Anthony came here for civilization and found Trump. He must
be disappointed, Sinsary Magnet. Yeah, well it's a it's a
it's a long haul.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
It's still a beautiful country, it really, and the majority
of the people here are incredible and they get it.
And you know, Trump did not win with this huge mandate.
Let's just remember this, so only only seventy odd million
people voted for him. Well, there's three hundred and twenty
million people in this country. So you tell me how
that's a majority.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, well, that'll be a lot of people disappointed based
on those numbers. Because this isn't stopping anytime soon. We're
just underway. We can find you on the Minus Touch
network again. Tell me exactly when it's.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Five minute News daily on the Five Minute News YouTube channel.
You find me on Substack as well, the Anthony Davis
Blue Sky, The Anthony Davis That's Me and then on
Wednesdays Uncovered on the Mitus Touch Network. Sundays the Weekend
show on the Minday.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Victor says MTN is their best show Uncovered, the best
show on the Mitus Touch Network. How about that, Anthony Davis,
thank you. I'll see you later this week as we
go on a wild You're grabbing your wife and I'm
grabbing my day facto wife, and We're going on vacation.
Isn't that right?

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Apparently?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
So oh my god, Well, I never take a vacation.
I'll be working every day, but you, I'm sure we'll
be vacating.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
So I'm going to be working every day.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Oh wait, okay, so we're both working every day, all right,
Anthony Davis. Everyone bye, Anthony, thank you, sir. I love
I love our time together. Yeah. He's great, He's just great.
He's I love his takes. I love that work on
the Minus Touch Network and it is great. Now to

(37:36):
welcome someone else that I'll get to in just a second.
I want to make sure I'm not neglecting anything I
need to do. We're in the middle of spring katching.
Before I get to Gary Dietrich, let me just thank
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(39:05):
efforts from this administration I think conform with Project twenty
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He's right here with us, Gary Dietrich, everybody.

Speaker 9 (39:59):
Hey Gary, Hello, Mark, good to be with you, my friend.
And I'm glad you're gonna get a little vakji of
some kind. But I don't know the cutter yet. I'm
just wondering will they allow Big Max and Filea fishes
to be served on?

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Oh yeah, that's right. There's a whole uh Muslim thing
going on. You know, that's right. The Katari, the Katari
gift to the Trump administration is riking right now. Anyway,
elitp frogging a lot of other stories in Washington, just
because it seems like such an obvious violation of every

(40:34):
even generous interpretation of the Emoluments Clause, which prohibits foreign
governments from making donations like this without congressional approval. Of course,
there was no congressional approval here. He got the high
five from Pambandi, and he moved on and accepted this,
at least in principle. Give me a thought on this
and where this is going.

Speaker 6 (40:53):
Well, you know, is this a huge deal to some people?

Speaker 9 (40:57):
It will be, honestly to many in Washington, even people
frustrating the Democratic Party. Mark, this is just going to
be seen as another distraction from what they what they
believe are the issues that they really have got to
focus on, right, things like potential large cuts to Medicaid,
things like that. Amy Klobuchar said this over the weekend, said, look,

(41:19):
you know, we've got to quit focusing on the bright
shiny objects that aren't the main story. So I think
this is sort of a mixed bag, even again for
the Democrats in Congress. But you know, Trump's just hey,
why would I turn down a four hundred dollars I
mean four hundred million dollar free jet. And of course
the irony of the whole thing is that Boeing just

(41:41):
can't seem to get at act together and get those
two new Air Force ones off the ground. This would
all be a moot point if they'd been able to
keep to that. Now people go back and well, was
there too many change orders from Trump? Who knows, you know.
But anyway, we may have another new calling it temporary
Air Force one.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think you makes such a
good point, and you're so sharp to point to Klobuchar
who made that point that these distractions of a sort
take us away from some of the main plot points.
As you know, medicare medicators undermined, and as there is,
there are huge economic issues associated with tariffs in this

(42:25):
kind of thing. Yet the total compromise, an ethical compromise
that is this administration really is on display in splendiferous
form with this Katari thing. So from that standpoint, it's
a reminder of, frankly, the corruption of this administration. These

(42:47):
are my words, not yours, but that's the way I
see it.

Speaker 6 (42:50):
Yeah, I understand market.

Speaker 9 (42:52):
You know, look, you can bet your life on this
if this thing does actually touch down and get a
code of paint you know from the Air Force one on,
you know, paint store.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
Every single tiny.

Speaker 9 (43:05):
Act between us and cover are going to you can
just imagine, are going to be scrutinized to the tee
for the remainder of this administration and beyond. So, you know,
I think right now the guys can cutter after be saying, well,
get ready for the gigantic microscope to be on every
single thing that we do from here on out, because
that will be happening.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Tell me about the tariffs. So they have weekend meetings
in Geneva, the Americans and the Chinese, and they essentially
hit the reset button. So now it's a ninety day pause.
This won't be a relief of all import fees tariffs

(43:48):
steel aluminum I think is still included. They're like fifty
percent something like that, but everything else drops way way
down again and sort of normalizes everything, gets things back
to where they were prior to this whole tariff mess beginning.
Give me some thoughts on that.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
Well, you know, this is the big kahuna.

Speaker 9 (44:09):
I mean, in the announcement last week about the you know,
new agreement between the UK and the US, that was significant,
that just sort of started the drip flowing, right, But
this was the one everybody was waiting on. Was something
significant gonna come out of this? And it's not small,
as you point out, Mark, I mean, our tariffs are
supposedly the general tariffs dropping from that wopping one hundred

(44:29):
and forty five percent to thirty five percent, China dropping
theirs down commensurate to I think fifteen percent from there
over one hundred. So this is a big deal, and
mostly it's a big deal for Wall Street. Look at
the stock market today, right, this is what Wall Street
was waiting for. They were waiting for the other shoe
to drop. You know, basically, their question was very simple,

(44:52):
is the one hundred and forty five nothing more than
a Donald Trump negotiating ploy to get China to a
table and really talk about redoing the agreement or not?

Speaker 6 (45:04):
And now we know the answer to that is yes.

Speaker 9 (45:06):
I mean, I don't think there was. And he's been
kind of saying this over last weekend, well, you know,
one forty five it may not stay there, and then
he said maybe ninety. I think this was nothing more
than a you know, a strong arm public tactic to
really try to redo the whole China trade negotiation platform.
And we'll see what happens. I mean, the obviously the

(45:28):
next ninety days are going to be the proof of it.
But in the short and medium term, Wall Streets were
all happy about it.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Sure, sure, I mean Wall Street would have liked Trump
to worry about making announcements about plastic straws and not
touch the economy at all. It was already in pretty
good shape. And it's funny we're we're looking at when
you talk about getting China back to the table and
work out some kind of trade agreement. I mean, there
was a trade agreement in place, and who made that

(45:56):
trade agreement with China. It was Donald Trump twenty eighteen.
I think so the idea somehow that you know, the
entire notion about what's happening with China has some truth
to it. Right, there's ip robbery going on. I mean,
China is aggressive about closing us out of market. So

(46:17):
this is not a completely empty notion that you have
to work something out with China on an ongoing basis. Okay,
and with Ai now part of the picture, et cetera.
It all makes sense. But what Trump did is just way,
way bizarre, over the top lunacy, really, and it's not
just me saying that. I mean every economist on Earth

(46:39):
was saying. And of course, as you've pointed out, Wall
Street reflects it and what's happening in the market. So
I'll be interested to see if after ninety days Trump
just leaves it alone. You you would think that that
might be the case, right, I Mean it's sort of like, yeah.

Speaker 9 (46:56):
Buck, I think you're making a really really important stand
point that people need to tune into. A lot of
these negotiations are going to have zero nothing to do with.

Speaker 6 (47:06):
Tariffs, to be honest about it.

Speaker 9 (47:08):
A lot of the business people in the United States
believes that the other types of things you mentioned, stealing
of intellectual property, I mean, you know, trying again to
elbow the US out of the way in other markets,
trying to pressure other countries to not do business with
the US. Those are the kinds of things that I
think US business is far more concerned about than whether

(47:31):
it's ten or fifteen percent tariffs. I mean, these these
are the big these are the big game changers AI
things like that. So I think you're exactly right that. Honestly,
as fast as things are moving these days in the
business world and in the intellectual property world and the
technology world, five years, as you know, is like a
century these days. So there's been a lot of water

(47:53):
under the bridge since that last Trump China agreement.

Speaker 6 (47:57):
And then I think you also, finally.

Speaker 9 (47:58):
Market need to put it in the broad context of
the clear right now escalation of superpower, you know, moxing
between China and the US. I mean, this is part
of this is part of what Trump's talking about almost
every week, right, I mean, all of a sudden over
the weekend, there's a giant announcement that the US Army

(48:20):
is going to get these brand new tilt rotor airplanes
that are going to replace our helicopter fleet. Why because
they say that's totally aimed at China and the Pacific.

Speaker 6 (48:30):
That we've got to have.

Speaker 9 (48:32):
Machines that can be used for potential defense and assault
that have to surpass the capabilities of average choppers.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
So I'm just saying.

Speaker 9 (48:41):
Across the board, right, I mean, the new fighter jets,
this is part of a much larger picture of who's
going to you know, who's going to emerge. You know,
twenty thirty years from night now is the dominant superpower?

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Wow, so well said not every economist I thought, okay,
thank you, Jack. Virtually every economists thought that the terriffs,
we're a bad idea. It's interesting, and get so caught
up in the China thing. And boy, when you lay
it out like that and you talk about what's potential
theaters of war around Taiwan, et cetera, and how we're

(49:17):
maybe altering our fighting force and altering our hardware to
accommodate that, you can lose sight of the fact that
there is a huge vulnerability that has now been established
in America with the cybersecurity being underfunded. Now, I mean,

(49:37):
a bunch of cyber security experts have been dismissed from
the government as part of the Doge decapitation of so
many agencies and government. We've lost a lot in that area.
I'm wondering if you're thinking it seems so obvious you
need to rebuild in that area. I mean, in a way,
that's the real ongoing theater of war in every country.

(49:59):
Why wouldn't you rebuild those cybersecurity posts and try to
make us robust in that area.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
I think that's going to happen.

Speaker 9 (50:07):
Mark Frankly, I think when you talk about Jojes, to
be really honest about it, it's in many senses. I
think if you look at the numbers now and let's
check them again in four years, I think there's going
to be a lot of rehires into some of these jobs,
but they're not going to be quote unquote Biden folks, right.
I mean, I think there's you could almost see it

(50:28):
more as a purge than it is a cutback. Does
that make any sense. It's like reframing. It's what's happening
in the Pentagon. The Pentagon budget is not being cut,
it's being increased, but it is but a lot of
the deck chairs and substantial ones are being moved around
and reframed in some significant ways. You know that that

(50:49):
the Trump people believe is absolutely imperative.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
For example, shipbuilding. Who cares about shipbuilding when.

Speaker 9 (50:56):
We're not taking on the British Navy like we did
one hundred fifty years ago. It GE's aimed at one place.
We all know where that is. This is clear competition
with China. That's what the shipbuilding is about, on the
commercial fleets as well as the military fleets.

Speaker 6 (51:11):
So make no mistake about it. You know, I think
it's I think we.

Speaker 9 (51:15):
Really have to look at this in a big picture
sometimes and say, oh, that cybersecurity thing is not going away,
but it's going to be even more trained on places
like China, Russia, Iran, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
I want to ask you about California here in the
last second or two, but before I do, these other
things that are happening, well, they're happening in the military.
Since we're talking about the military, the elimination of a
trends military members. There's also kind of a there was
also an administration I don't want to say edict, but

(51:50):
message to somehow incentivize women having more kids there seems
to be like this old school kind of view of
the world that make crescendo with the trans issue, but
also seems to include yeah, stuff that's associated with race
and gender and just old school visions of those things.

(52:11):
I wonder if you can give me a second on that.

Speaker 9 (52:13):
Well, I would just say, you know, when it comes
to military head Jeff, guests continue to use this phrase
over time. We are about one thing, lethality, right, so
in their view mark if it doesn't serve that purpose directly,
you know, if it's about anything related to a quality
or equal opportunity or whatever, that is not part of

(52:35):
their calculus.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
I mean, they've made that clear.

Speaker 9 (52:38):
You know, people can vociferously disagree with disagree with that,
but that's the bottom line all right.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Now to California. One of the things that's happened in
California is we've talked about and you follow Sacramento quite closely,
which is where the state capital is. For those who
are tuning in from all around the idea somehow that
California might on some level pick up the slack of
medical research that has been discontinued at NIH and those

(53:08):
official agencies that bill at least preliminarily got through the
Sacramento vote. So I'm wondering, I mean, it has still
another vote to come, I think, and you can you know,
you know all about how that works, but I wonder
if you can speak to the realities, because there are
a lot of academic institutions in California that depend or
depended on that federal money. And we're doing critical research

(53:31):
and cancer and Alzheimer's and all these other things, and
they may get back to it if the state funds it.

Speaker 9 (53:37):
Well, the state has funded in the past different kinds
of medical efforts completely separate and apart from the federal government.
But yet you know, understand that for example, right around
the state capital, with a couple of miles of it,
there's a new biomedical campus going up right next to
the new Golden One Center. University of California is going
to invest heavily in that. I mean, there is there

(54:00):
are already marked a lot of public private partnerships that
are escalating in California dramatically. There's been this sense for
some time that there is a growing desire to basically
replicate Silicon Valley and turn it into biomedical Valley. You know,
both in a certain segment of the Bay areas. You know,

(54:22):
San Francisco has a portion of this, you're the new
Chase Center, et cetera.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
But even in the Central Valley.

Speaker 9 (54:28):
That there's going to be major league even international investments
that California would like to be and right now is
kind of taking a leadership role of being the center
of regardless of what the federal government does in the
short term.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
It's interesting because California is running out of money, right
I mean, there's a little bit of a problem and
a shortfall when it comes to funds, and this would
be quite a capital commitment, wouldn't it.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
Well, you know, it could happen. Some of this could
be put on the ballot.

Speaker 9 (54:57):
Some of it may just be in this form mark
of you know, land grants or you know tax rebase
or you know, tax credits, those kinds of things that
are direct expenditures out.

Speaker 6 (55:09):
Of the general fund.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Now, a last question, I'll double back, but it ties
into what you we've just finished speaking about. I'll double
back to the Trump administration and the announcement. There are
a lot of announcements. Trump is a big one for
announcements and pronouncements. As you know, the theater of the presidency,
in my view, is really where he's happiest. And he
announced and signed an executive order asking pharmaceutical companies to

(55:34):
voluntarily bring their pricing in some conformity with the rest
of the world. We pay more for pharmaceuticals here in
this country than any other place. So I I think
this is just that it's performative. I mean, there was
already I'll just in my preamble to your reply remind

(55:55):
everyone that there was already negotiation and on the part
of the government in the infrastructure package with ten different
major pharmaceutical offerings. I think one of them was for
diabetes and so on. So it was already there, and

(56:16):
Trump rescinded it. Trump rescinded the Biden era accomplishment of
negotiating with these pharmaceutical companies. Now doing the same dance
as Biden saying we pay too much here, He's saying,
I want these pharmaceutical companies to bring their prices down
to what they are the rest of the world. I think,

(56:36):
first of all, they're not going to voluntarily do it.
This is my opinion. But I also think he's it
feels theatrical to me. It feels performative. I don't know
if anything will happen, but again, you know where the
bodies are buried. What do you think is going to happen.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
I think it's both.

Speaker 9 (56:51):
And Mark, I think you know, the proposal is that
we would pay on an individual basis for an individual drug,
low price paid by any other country for that drug. Now,
it is important for people to understand that we still
pay two to three times was reported again over the
weekend what other developed countries paid, and sometimes up to

(57:13):
ten times what a developing nation might pay for the
same drug. And and I think Trump is you know,
to me, this is this is sort of like one forty.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
Five percent Chinese tariff.

Speaker 9 (57:24):
Is that going to happen voluntarily by these pharmaceutical companies?
Of course it isn't. There's absolutely no way it isn't.
But to me, it's the shot across the bow. And
I can expect to follow up. You know, it was
signed today. Bobby Kennedy was there, you know, to receive
the you know, executive order. I think this is going
to be some hard news negotiations and part of that's

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going to be looked if you don't do this and
then fill on the blank after that, Right, there's going
to be tax penalties, there's going to be all kinds
of things. But I think Trump is serious about this seed.
This just plays into the larger thing the US is
getting screwed, needs to be everybody else, Right, Trump is like,
I am not going to have my people pay two

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or three times what England is paying for the same drug.
And so the mechanism right now, pressure everybody, Pressure to
other countries, pressure the major pharmaceutical companies. But you know
those guys, those companies are huge donors, as you know
in Congress.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Market thank you, thank you. That's why I think it's
not going to happen.

Speaker 9 (58:25):
Yeah, and that's going to be the challenge if there's
congressional approval needed for some of this, getting it past
Big Farm has got to be tough.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Well we agree, then we agree, but we'll see. And
I think it's interesting that you kind of point out, hey,
this is a warning shot. I'd say it's maybe part
warning shot based on what you're saying. I mean, I
think you make a convincing argument for that, and also
it's a part as I say, attention getter. You're like,
I'm a man of the people. I'm a populist. I'm
a populist president. It's all. He's trying to build that

(58:56):
brand with that announcement. But Gary, our love, our time together.
I only miss you one Monday, so just and then
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Always can find Gary Dietrick across iHeartRadio and across the
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Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
It was great. I loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
How would you have this?

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
We could try ignoring us or mining.

Speaker 8 (01:00:09):
You cannot say you love your country.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Where am I?

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
We've smokers at stay at home and get baked.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Right on, everybody, right on. Thank you for being part
of our show. Everybody who is in the chat and
everybody who participates live. You can find us across social media.
We have a blue sky, we have X, we have
what we don't have what I'm not good about. But
I think Kim is better with Facebook. I don't know

(01:00:37):
how much you're on Facebook, But Kim, do you post
when we're on the air on Facebook? Or you kind
of just leave Facebook alone? Pretty much?

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
There's a Mark Thompson Show Facebook discussion page where there's
discussion about all the things that you've talked about and
that people are posting interesting things. But we used to
go live on Facebook and we haven't anymore. But I'm
not really posting on Facebook.

Speaker 9 (01:00:59):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
As far as when we go live, do you want
me to do that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Well, I think it would be helpful. I mean, you know,
if you care about the success of the show, I
would suggest and maybe you want to do that. I
don't know. You think you want to tell people when
your show is on. I think it's uh, you know, okay,
I mean I think it. Don't you think Tony we should?
I don't know what that means though in terms of
us broadcasting Live there, but you Tony's always thought you

(01:01:25):
should be everywhere. He thinks that we should blast our
show on every platform. He wants us to be on Rumble,
but I feel like if we're on a Rumble Twitch
and yeah, but if we're on Rumble Twitter, We're going
to see that chat is going to blow up with
haters and like you know, and I just feel like
it'll spoil the experience a little bit. So that's why

(01:01:47):
I've held off on the Rumble.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
We could contain Rumble's chat to Rumble and they could
just have fun yelling.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
And he said, maybe I'll talk to you about that
and we'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
And then what we would do, obvious is once all
the other platforms we deleted, and then we just would
have just YouTube for the archive, so basically giving people
the option for live.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Well, this is to be a continued so we'll talk
about that. And I'm always interested in the Facebook fan page,
so the discussion page, the discussion stuff that's on the show.
Is that what you're saying, Kim. Yeah, I went there
and I thought it was really cool and it's not
like all about the show. They have other stuff too,
And yeah, I was pretty impressed. So what is that
that's on Facebook? It's called what.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
The Mark Thompson Show Fan Discussion page?

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
All right, all right, very very good, the Mark Thompson
Show Fan Discussion Page.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
And that, by the way, was created and run by fans.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Very cool. I love that, Mark. Maybe you should do
only fans, says a Melafidian. Yeah, that's good. I'll get
an a good for a couple of dollars. I mean, anyway,
I'm looking at the chat and I get distracted. The
haters are entertaining, says Jack. That'd be awesome. Imagine a

(01:03:04):
bunch of Mars and Randy's and Delwood's. I don't think
Randy and the Randy I know isn't one of the
but Delwood and Mars definitely. Now Mars is no longer, right,
we red carded Mars, but Delwood still out there. Ye,
Delwood was yellow carded, but I think he's still He's
still around. I think that that's right. It's tough to

(01:03:26):
keep track. You know, Kim is usually the keeping track
of of that stuff. I'd like to get to some
news from KIM news and commentary. We did a lot
on the Katari plane. We did some stuff on a
Habeas corpus as well, and the realities I think are
moving against this administration being able to do anything with
Habeas Corpus, but I wouldn't put anything past them. And

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then drug pricing and immigration policy generally covered a lot,
but there's a lot more going on. So smash the
like button if you would get with your iron like baby,
bit a heart with your iron rod. That's right, and
we'll get to some KIM news and we continue. You

(01:04:09):
good with that, Kim, Yeah, bring it Mark Thompson Show,
The Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Well on The Mark Thompson Show. I'm Kim McCallister. This
report is sponsored by Coachella Valleycoffee dot Com. There is
a sea of New Jersey ands. They have all gathered
to see the release of the last living American hostage
that is held by Hamas. Hamas released Israeli American eedon
Alexander as part of ceasefire efforts with Israel. The twenty

(01:04:46):
one year old is from New Jersey, his hometown now
watching an outdoor TV to see his return to Israel
and then eventually on to the United States. So he
is freed today.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
I think that those negotiations took place largely between the
US and the Hamas officials representing Hamas. I mean, I
think the Israeli government was not involved in that negotiation.
Am I right about that? I think that that's right, Kim.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
I'm not sure, but I'm sure happy to see another
apostaves released. Absolutely. There's an ice detention center also in
New Jersey that is turning into ground zero in the
immigration battle between the Trump administration and Democrats. Friday, we
reported here the mayor of Newark was arrested outside the
New Jersey facility after he and three Democratic House representatives

(01:05:34):
tried to gain entrance. Mayor Ross Baraka and others say
they will be back at that Delaney Hall detention center
today to join religious leaders in protest. The mayor said
he has oversight authority there and so he's able to
go in and double check and make sure what's going
on and that he should not have been arrested. So
it's heating up the Dow Jones Industrial average taking off

(01:05:57):
like a rocket. After China and the United States agreed
to temporary tariff cuts, Dow shot up over a thousand
points at times today, while the S and P five
hundred grew two point nine percent, Nasdak composite surging four percent.
Treasury Secretary of Scott Descent saying both countries agreed to
cut reciprocal tariffs by one hundred and fifteen percent for

(01:06:19):
ninety days, so a ninety day almost pause on these
tariffs as negotiations continue there. As Mark mentioned earlier, air
Force one is Middle East bound while we talked about
a Middle East Air Force one made, but now the
real Air Force one is Middle East bound. For President
Trump's first major international trip of his second term, he

(01:06:40):
is set too nice. He is set to visit US
troops at the airbase and a Cutter, the largest US
military base in the region. He will also be in
the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, where he'll get
an update on the Israel gas of war ceasefire talks there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Just give me the truth, reminds us. By the way,
those Mosque guys they live in Qatar. That's absolutely true.
Hamas officials reside in Qatar, and so interesting. I'd forgotten
it as well, So thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Yeah, more than four dozen Africaners are heading to the
United States. This is a group of wild for white
Africaners who were granted refugee status by the Trump administration.
They left South Africa Sunday night. They will be arriving
at Dulles International in Virginia today. President Trump signed an

(01:07:34):
executive order in February granting an exception claiming minority Africaners
were being unfairly treated in South Africa. The group will
now have a pathway to US citizenship and they'll be
eligible for US government benefits here as well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
So yeah, yeah, it's just odd that we're taking up
for this this long ignored group, the Africaners. I mean,
I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact
that Donald Trump's buddy is who Elon Musk from South Africa,
David Sachs from South Africa. He's surrounded by these South

(01:08:10):
Africans who make the case for the Afrikaaners. So they've
been fast tracked ahead of many others who await in
the immigration system. In fact, many others who go to
immigration check in points check in as is legally required
and then are picked up and deported. I mean, if ever,

(01:08:30):
there was a chilling effect toward being legal a person
with awaiting full legal status and an immigrant to this
country that has to check in at various immigration offices.
Ever there was a chilling effect, if ever, there was
a brushback pitch. It's the idea that when you check in,

(01:08:51):
they deport you. So, I mean, this is literally happening meantime,
as Kim says, these white South Africans they arrive at
Della Airport today under the Trump order, they are refugees.
So we continue, which that's just.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Seems very interesting that we are. It seems like we're
deporting the brown people and we're letting in the white people.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
That's how it feels, thank you. I mean it feels
that way because that's exactly what's happening. And you know,
forty nine white Africaners come here fleeing persecution in South Africa.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
No, we don't mind immigrants, we just we just want
the right kind of immigrants.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Yeah, yeah, again, it's it's all happening in plainsight.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
The state of New Jersey. Big in the news today. Now,
the White House says the problems at the Newark, New
Jersey Airport, they fall squarely on the shoulders of the
Biden administration. Today, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said the airport
is using old equipment that looks like it came off
the set of the movie Apollo thirteen. Duffy said the

(01:09:58):
former TSA had Pete Boudaget Edge ignored the problems with
the airport's telecom communication lines. Duffy's saying there are some
temporary software fixes in place, but he warned it'll take
time to modernize the airport and flights will have to
be reduced out of Newark.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
So I just want to make one program note to you,
and it's happening today. We have an aviation expert, in fact,
he's our aviation expert guy. Patrick Wild is coming on
in just about a half hour, and he'll talk about
what's happening in the skies over America. How safe is it,
Why are these delays happening? Will there be more? Patrick
joins us in just minutes here on this show, so

(01:10:35):
we will ask him all those questions. If you have
any specific questions about aviation, he's the guy to ask.
He'll be with US shortly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
State Farm maybe in the California hot seat. California Insurance
Commissioner Ricardo Laura says he may soon be launching a
formal inquiry into State Farms company practices. A comment made
during a recent Zoom meeting with hundreds of survivors of
the January wildfires and Los Angeles. The survivor said the
insurance company is making it nearly impossible to get claims

(01:11:05):
filed or answered. State Farm says they've received more than
twelve thousand claims and they've paid more than three billion
dollars to customers so far. But Laura may be launching
an investigation into why things seem to be moving slow.
President Trump has a miniature statue in the Oval office,
right behind the resolute desk, portraying the moments after he

(01:11:27):
survived an assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. There's the statue
and it's a Apparently it's a model for what is
hoped to become a nine foot tall bronze statue. It's
part of the Donald Trump Statue Project. It's an initiative
to raise funds for a nine foot tall bronze sculpture.

(01:11:49):
But here's the here's the miniature. Who's got the flag
behind there in Butler, Pennsylvania. The security, the Secret Service
agents that were on on the president as he raises
his hand in triumph, and there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Why does in the area. I don't understand that they
have to raise funds? He had hundreds of millions of
dollars he made with the crypto purchase on his platform.
Hundreds of millions.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Well, and there is even now and I'll get to
this story when Kim's News is over. The bidding for
a face to face with Donald Trump, you can bid
on that. And you're even able to bid through purchase
of his crypto coin, all kinds of interactions with Donald
Trump himself. So, in other words, hundreds of millions of

(01:12:32):
dollars pouring into Trump cofers weekly, and we have to
raise money for the statue. I mean, can't you just
break out a little something off of the existing grift
and pay for it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
They haven't said where they intend to put this thing up.
Would it be like a Trump Library statue? Would it
go up near the Lincoln Memorial? And nobody knows where
this thing is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
No one's going to say no, put it wherever you want,
Donald Trump, because no one's going to say no to you, apparently, Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
San Francisco's Chinatown night Market is getting some national recognition.
USA Today ranking the event as a top night market
in the nation. Organizers say between fifteen and twenty thousand
people come out to the night market, which takes place
on the second Friday of the month. The patrons can
check out numerous food and drink items enjoy a variety

(01:13:22):
of Chinese themed entertainment. Organizers say they plan to run
the night market monthly for at least the next five months,
so it gets high marks from USA Today. And lastly,
just in case, you know, Mark, I know you might
be looking for a new ride coming up, I've got
the one for you. There is a limited number. There
are a limited number of full sized, drivable replicas of

(01:13:45):
the Batman Tumbler from Christopher Nolan's The Dark Night trilogy
that are for sale. These are ten replicas of the Tumbler.
It's a tank like off road vehicle available for purchase.
It's been sanctioned by Warner Brothers Discovery. The tumblrs cost
nearly three million dollars each and they are sold exclusively online.

(01:14:05):
Through Wayne Enterprises Experienced Luxury brand. It's the first time
that Tumblr has been made available for purchase.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
They're literally going to build this car, the Batman Tumbler.
Look at Tony's got it up for you to see
with those huge wheels they were it was a very
cool vehicle, very million. I can't imagine that it would
uh you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Know what that parked in the driveway. What's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
I just don't think. I don't if it'll be street
legal and uh but maybe that's the idea. It's just
a collector.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Well, you know, if you did buy one, you would
join Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow, who bought a tumbler
last year. So he's the NFL posting on x that
he bought one. So you get you know, you're in
good company there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
It's a ball or move to get one for sure. Yeah.
I like the original Batman, you know, the TV series Batmobile.
That's more my vintage probably, But I don't know. The
good news is too expensive?

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
It's great, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
It's too expensive for.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
What's wrong with you? Come on?

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Uh, there's a new AI tool lastly that will tell
you how old you look. Biologically, face age turns a
headshot into a number that reflects a person's biological age,
but based on thousands of photos, face age gave most
cancer patients a biological age five years older than healthy peers.
Research shows humans age at different rates based on genes, stress, exercise,

(01:15:40):
and habits like smoking and drinking. Face age promises the
same results as genetic DNA tests using only a selfie.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Well, I'd be willing to back my lunch. That there's
alcohol is alcoholic. It does age a little bit that alcohol.
But boy, it feels good when you're while you're aging.
You gotta say, the question.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Is do you really want that information? I mean, if
you you into face age, right, you're expecting it to say, oh,
you look five years younger. And what if face age
tells you you look ten years older? Then he I mean,
what a disappointment. I don't want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
You're right, it's sometimes better not to know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
No, take it, you know, stow it, face age. I'm
not interested, all right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
It's tough enough for me to deal with the image
I have to look at every day when I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
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Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Yes, and enjoy it. Oh yeah, sure, I enjoy it.
I'm drinking out of my This is a We could
just try ignoring it, sir, a mug. I believe and
it is. It's so cool we could try ignoring it. Yeah.
The the mugs if you didn't get one, the mugs

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behind me collector's items from the first merch store. These,
I believe are quickly becoming collector's items from the second
merch Store. Very very cool. And there is a new
super cool merch store coming Courtney's working on it. So
is the merche store still up, Tony, I didn't realize
it still is that's great. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, chit

(01:17:41):
chit chit is there, and uh yeah, looks like it.
You got your Jellow Valley coffee and a chit chit
Chit mug and all the rest. Oh, is it up already?
Maybe it's up?

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
This is this is still the original one, the one,
the original one, because Courtney has been working to kind
of curate a new merch store for us, and so yeah,
they don't have any replicas of the Donald Trump statue
in our merch story yet, Tony. That hasn't made the
list of enviable items anyway. Very sadly, I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Don't see that on the website. No, yeah, sadly, that's
not the way it is. Thank you, Jim McAllister. This
is the Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
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Speaker 9 (01:18:39):
No context will suffice to explain the hurt and anglish called.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Our lawyer call me and I know what you're calling.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Me a cover up artist and you are a liar.

Speaker 9 (01:18:56):
In the one time killing.

Speaker 6 (01:18:57):
I don't know what a one time killing is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
I don't have a look.

Speaker 6 (01:19:00):
I love it when you're angry good day, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
This is a man with anger, This is a man
that has resemblance towards you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
That's pure speculation.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Seriously, it was great. I love Jo.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
It was wrong, it was stupid, and I'm trying to
be a better person.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 10 (01:19:26):
Whoever is producing this has no idea what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Do you know who I am? That's kind of a
thing to go. Where are my weed smokers at?

Speaker 6 (01:19:39):
You aren't like to ask for a recess?

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
What Thompson Party of four?

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
There's never been anything like this.

Speaker 6 (01:19:51):
Nobody likes her.

Speaker 9 (01:19:54):
Right on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Everybody. Great to have you here. We are a live show,
and we thank you all of our Patreon, PayPal subscribers
and supporters. That community sustains us. It's true. I really
want to do that orgy of thanks. We kind of
have it. At the end of every show, we post
everyone's name who is part of our Patreon and PayPal

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community of supporters, every single person's name. If you've contributed
at whatever level, we post your name, Tony will be
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I think, or tonight, I forget in the next twenty
four hours. So thanks to everyone. You make every show happen,
and that's why you run your name at the end
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(01:20:43):
Santi m says not enough blood and the hands are
too big. We have a very clever crew in our audience.
And what else did I want before I get to.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Maybe we should buy one of those for Thompson tariff.
You know, we can tearrists. We can put it. Put
it up there next to all the other statues. Have
the Trump statue on.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
The terror I think that would now, I think that
would kill a lot of the walkthrough and you know,
just the vibe of Thompson terrorists, which is kind of serene.
I think the serenity would be lost were we two
to do that. But but I'm glad you mentioned the statue,
and I'm glad you mentioned Trump because I do have
some Mark Thompson show. You know, I think the influence,

(01:21:35):
peddling and corruption associated with this administration is a huge story,
and there can be a tendency to normalize it, to
go well, you know, he's just Trump and again, man,
he is like you know, selling Tesla's in the front
yard and he is taking in cash payments in the
backyard and that's just who he is, and this is
a corrupt administration, et cetera. But and then the other

(01:21:58):
thing you hear is up all politicians are, and you know,
he's just taking it to another level. There's some truth
to the fact that American politics is filled with money, right.
There is this tremendous infusion of money into all political
races virtually. So if you want to run for any office,
you need money to get the word out, to get

(01:22:18):
yard signs, bumper stickers, put together space in like rental halls,
so you can even just put together these q and
as you want to do with the potential voters to
support you. I mean not to mention media time, and
you know digital media et cetera. Takes a lot of
money to do this stuff. So that by definition, because

(01:22:39):
you need money to get even a righteous message out,
that by definition opens you to corruption because when people
give a lot of money to someone or something, they
expect something in return. In this case with Donald Trump,
you take a lot of money in from Elon Musk,
He's their top donor the Republican Party and the Trump

(01:23:02):
campaign people got no greater funder than Elon Musk, and
what does he do. Well, there's been no greater individual,
private person who's been welcomed into government and has transformed
government like Elon Musk did. Now, you can't tell me
that there was no connection between Elon Musk's donation to

(01:23:25):
Donald Trump and Elon Musk's power that was conferred to
him by Donald Trump. I mean, he gave him the
keys to the governmental kingdom and he went in with
all of those aspiring tech bros from eighteen years of
age to twenty six years of age, people who knew

(01:23:45):
nothing about government, and then they started chirping about how
Social Security is broken and USAID is broken and this
is a waste and that is always completely misunderstanding some
of the most fundamental aspects of how funding goes on.
But the reason Musk was there is because he gave
so much money to Trump. So it is with the

(01:24:06):
qataris they don't give Trump a plane without getting some understanding.
I mean, just it's implicit in the gift. We will
get something back, We will get access to the president
and likely an agreement or at least engagement on those

(01:24:28):
issues that we're concerned with.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
It just makes sense, and likely an agreement that maybe
is not beneficial to the United States because we got
to pay up at some point.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Right, Trump cares about Trump first. It certainly should be
clear to you by now. Now. This is why while
he polishes his brand, which is all populist, right, I
care about you. I'm up against the big machine. I
don't need any money, you know. I'm doing this for
the American people. While he polishes that brand and and

(01:25:00):
has that gleaming brand of populism to his people, we
know the reality is he's trying to money himself. Okay,
that's all political, and it's a kind of it's a
quid pro quo. It's also a pay to play. It's patronage.
You find it with the tariff deals. We've told you
when Vietnam was hard hit by the tariff initially in

(01:25:23):
the first week, they made a deal immediately to allow
Donald Trump to build a Trump resort in Vietnam. All
the impediments were gone. It's even underwritten on some level
by the government of Vietnam. So this is clearly a
way that Trump personally benefits from that and the Trump family.
But that doesn't even begin to get to what's going

(01:25:48):
on most recently with the auction to dine with President
Trump and the idea that you can again create foreign
influence peddling there in the White House. They are creating
vehicles for foreign influence peddling. The time speech from the

(01:26:09):
New York Times. When the bidding stops today, the top
buyers of a Trump family crypto coin will win a
tour of the White House. The sale of face to
face access to President Trump using the Trump family's own
cryptocurrency has done more than benefit him financially, though it's
certainly done that Trump announcing last month that leading buyers

(01:26:31):
of his digital coin that the family is marketing would
be rewarded with a private dinner with him at one
of his golf courses, and that the very top bidders
would win a tour of the White House. So that
auction ends today, and there is this bipartisan criticism about there,
and that you know, there also are suspicious trading patterns

(01:26:53):
around this meme coin and his stable coin. These are
the coins, the digital currency that is involved in all
of this. So crypto investors around the world have been
expanding their holdings of this digital currency. It's called a
mean coin. It's the dollar sign in capital letters. It

(01:27:13):
says Trump, and that's usually a novelty investment. That's not
the kind of thing that people invest in big numbers.
But as you can imagine, crypto investors around the world
are involved because Trump is hitting this coin so hard
and promoting it in this way and involving a contest.
So a lot of crypto Inmestaly going wow, the coin
is definitely going to take off. So buyers and interviews

(01:27:36):
and statements have said that they bought the coins or
entered the Dinner contest with the intention of securing an
action by Trump to affect the United States policy. This
is where you begin to see, I'm buying the coin,
I'm throwing all this money at Trump because I want
to influence US policy on something that I care about.

(01:27:57):
So the mean coin's trading price adding billions of dollars
at least on paper, to the value of this Trump
family owned digital currency. They've reeled in more than one
point three million dollars in fees. They take a cut
every time the coins change hands, and a lot of

(01:28:18):
large traders, sensing an opportunity to cash in, have moved
quickly and sold their Trump holdings after they take the
ride so you're seeing all of this trading around this
Trump digital currency, and a lot of it's being done
on Trump's platform, this world Liberty it's called. It's like
the Charles Schwab of buying digital currency. So he is

(01:28:42):
getting some backlash. I mean you're hearing from Cynthia Lumis,
the Republican of Wyoming, that it does give me pause,
she said, because it complicates our work here. The optics
are challenging. I mean again, that's like that masquerades as

(01:29:03):
like major criticism when they just talk about well, it
kind of looks bad, you know, when it actually is bad.
So the aggressive effort by Trump and his partners to
promote the dinner has also drawn scrutiny from former securities regulators.
They say that Trump may be violating federal securities laws.
Of course he is. I have a question. Let me

(01:29:25):
just let me just turnish this point, because he wouldn't
be targeted for investigation for violating these securities laws because
he's curtailed crypto enforcement efforts. So sec and Justice Department
they don't even have divisions that would investigate him. Not
to mention, he is essentially immune from any kind of
prosecution now go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
Where does the money that where's the does the money
go to? If they're raising money for what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Where?

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
I guess they're looking at who buys the most crypto?
So the money's all like involved in the crypto or
is there some type of money that people are paying
in order to get into the dinner as well? Does
that fundraising go somewhere? Does it benefit America? Does it
benefit the Trump Foundation?

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Like huh points that you would.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
I guess they want to know where's the money? Whose
money is it?

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Well, it's Trump and the Trump Family's money they are buying.
You understand, the rest of the world is buying these
digital currencies, okay, a digital currency, So that digital currency
is owned by Trump and the Trump family and it's
traded there. You can acquire it on their platforms, so
they are double dipping. They're getting whatever a piece of

(01:30:41):
every transaction and the coin itself is owned by the
Trump family. So it's kind of like saying, I don't
understand when the Saudi Arabians and the government of Saudi
Arabia buys floors in the Trump resorts and they never
go there, does the US government get some of that
money or no? That's the Trump family. They own it.

(01:31:02):
You think of these digital currencies as the Trump hotels,
just another vehicle by which money can be funneled into
the administration. And then you're right in your question when
you say I don't get it. I mean, so the
top investors in this coin, they're gonna have a chance
to win this Yeah, exactly. The dinner is auctioned off.

(01:31:23):
So the top investors in this coin, those investors who
put the most money in this digital currency, for most
money in the Trump family pockets, they'll have access to
Donald Trump and they'll be eligible to win the dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
So then you could say that Donald Trump is using
the Office of the Presidency to promote his personal coin,
meme coin.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just want to make sure I
understand you said I'm laughing, because yeah, of course, I
mean that's exactly what it is. Did I send you
a piece of video. I feel like Chris Murphy pushed
back on I think he was pushing back on the
kataring mostly, but you're what's happened is the Katari jet
thing has a bit nudged out of the headlines. What

(01:32:08):
is an ongoing grift on the part of the Trump
family and Donald Trump. He started selling this Trump Mean
coin three days before he was inaugurated, and then the
the and the coin just took off. So now he's
propping it up again.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
So he's got his hand out to the to the
crypto people, he's got his hand out to the kataris
for an air Force jet. Who who isn't paying the president?
Whose hand is he not having his hand out too?

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
Who does he not want money from? Well, I mean
from anyone, no matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
He doesn't even have to put his hand out. That's
the thing. I mean, it's just understood. The efforts to
prop the coin's value up has gone on since the inauguration.
A website tied to the coin announced last month that
the top two hundred and twenty buyers would be invited
to a gala dinner with Trump, and the top two

(01:33:00):
twenty five would win access to a quote private VIP
reception with Trump as well as a White House tour.
The auction's been playing out for nearly a month with
an arcade like leader board are on the website so
that tracks the rankings, so crypto investors can game out
how much they'd have to buy to win tickets before

(01:33:20):
the contest closes. It all closes today, which is kind
of why I was talking about it. But most people
don't win on this investment, but they're a handful that
have made a bunch of money. Seven hundred and sixty
four thousand buyers have lost money on the Trump coin
as it's dropped precipitously. I mean, that's the way these

(01:33:44):
mean coins are. They're not investments, but investors who bought
the coin quickly when it launched, then sold it to
less sophisticated buyers. They saw huge amounts of money accruited them.
Fifty eight investors who bought the coin each earned at
least ten million dollars of day peace. Most of the
coins buyers are impossible to identify, and that is the

(01:34:06):
magic of crypto. It was mentioned by Anthony Davis. The
reality is in the crypto world, it's all in a
way dark money.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
You can't track really any scary So basically then we
have no idea who we're or inviting to the White
House for dinner. That's well, could be the biggest spy
in the world, could be the biggest you know, human
smuggler in the world. We have no idea who would
be the top investor and who's coming for dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
And you're right about that on one level, although maybe
the identities are you know, now the White House logs
are you know, good luck trying to find any kind
of real accounting of who's come and gone from the
White House. But I also think you point to the
importance of some cop on the beat when it comes
to crypto. And as I mentioned, they've just cored out

(01:34:55):
all the at the SEC and the Justice Department, all
the cops on the beat. There there's really no one
overlooking this world of crypto, and that's deliberate, that's not accidental.
And crypto and dark money is the way that human
trafficking and narcotics and these things that we want less
of in the world. It's how they can all be

(01:35:17):
paid their business. The marketplace exists in, if you will,
a dark web, cryptocurrency filled world. And so it's scary.
My dinner with the dictators is an Ivy Kaminski. That's
very good. Yeah, anyway, that's the drill down on it.

(01:35:39):
And I guess today is the last day that he's
supporting the coin. And you're probably wondering who leads the
leader boards most of the buyers anonymous. Some either claim
public credit for their trades or they were identified by
journalists who looked into it. In Singapore, a crypto company
called meme Core went into second place on that Trump

(01:36:03):
leaderboard with one point four million coins. That's nineteen point
three million dollars. They might be famous people from the
crypto industry, or it's a very very good opportunity. So
that is the world of crypto. And that's the way

(01:36:24):
the Trump administration. Where can I buy Mark Thompson crypto?
Thank you for finally answering and asking I should say
a question that we should be asking, Amy B five
dollars super chat thank you. I I think we'd be
helped by a coin that's a Tony thing. Like if
Tony doesn't cook up a you know, some kind of
digital thing, then we don't get we don't get you

(01:36:44):
done around here. Real careful with mean coins, real careful,
that's all I'm gonna say. And that's because why Tony.

Speaker 5 (01:36:54):
Exactly, because a lot of times they do pumpa dumps
and stuff like that. People basically yeah, so the audience
to buy him up and then they go bye.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
Right, And that's kind of what I was saying, happening
with the meme coin with the Trumps. I mean it
was a pump and dumb. At least it suggested that
that might.

Speaker 5 (01:37:09):
Be going though usually those go like for a few
hours and then they just disappear.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
So well, I mean, you've got a president and propping
it up East. Doesn't hurt to have the president to,
you know, propping it up. He is Telethon Don says Louis.
His entire presidency is one big fundraiser for his favorite
charity himself.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
It's crazy. Louise is still right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
Yeah, Louise is so right. Deb Allen, thank you for
riding to our Koching Koching Springing, Springing spring Koschinging Dev
Ballen twenty dollars supersticker, big shout out. Wasn't the the
choreographer named Debbie Allen?

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
I was just thinking about that. Yeah, there's the famous
actress and choreographer named Debbie Allen.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Yeah this is the other deb b Allen. Yeah, more important,
deb Ballon. As far as I'm concerned, that's wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Maybe perhaps it's the same one. We don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
Oh, oh, that's an interesting idea. I never thought. I
don't know if that's.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
I mean, the star studded show, so one never knows
who will turn up.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Wow, who is having that conversation, Luise? A much larger picture,
Gary d This is Donald Trump, who can't see beyond
selling tons of branded crap and grifting free planes. Can't
play three D chess with a sharpie. Yeah. This goes
back to the conversation we're having with Gary Dietrich about
the fact that there was that there's a much larger

(01:38:28):
picture here beyond just the Katari plane. But Louise is
basically saying, hey, dude, this is straight up what's going on.
It's influenced pedaling. You don't need to look to a
larger picture. But Felicia Rashad is the sister of Debbie
Allen says in lays Wow, great knowledge, who knew? Uh wild,

(01:38:51):
very very I mean it's a uh these are I
think it's scary because that kind of access and that
kind of pay to play for there in the United States.
It's just such a bad place for us to be.
One of the aspects of American politics has been the
and I'm just going to put this in quotes because

(01:39:12):
of course it's not but the purity with which there
is representation and the rule of law. And what we've
begun to see, and we've seen it so quickly, is
an undermining of the purity of the process with a
basically a pay to play presidency, influence peddling, patronage of
all sorts. Even the tariffs are adjacent to all that.

(01:39:35):
And rule of law is something that has begun to
be threatened. And I'd suggest that the ignoring the Supreme
Court order, the ignoring of other orders, this all hurts
the American brand desperately and it will take decades to
build that brand back. So but it's all part of

(01:39:58):
that Mark Thompson show. I'm really glad this guy could
respond to the call. I put it out to him
early this morning because of everything going on in the
skies above America, Newark Airport. We're seeing word from inside
Newark Airport, even air traffic controllers who wish to remain
quiet and anonymous, saying it's scary right now, we're overrun.

(01:40:24):
But it's not just Newark, it's Atlanta, it's Chicago, it's
other places around America where they're seeing extraordinary delays and
there are safety questions that are beginning to crop up
as well. So I get back to the call I
made early this morning, and he responded to it. The
guy who is one of the first people involved in

(01:40:45):
launching Europe's discount airline, easy Jet. It exploded in popularity,
was a big success. How about it? For Patrick Wyle.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
Him, Mark, don't worry today.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
I'm well and I'm so grateful that you could join
us on short notice and it'll just be a quick visit.
But really concerned with something that a lot of Americans
have anxiety about, and that's air travel. What is happening
at the nation's airports and in the skies over America.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Well, a lot of people have misconceptions about air traffic control.
So I'll kind of explain it a little bit to you,
to your viewers. There are three levels of air traffic control.
One is the air traffic Control tower, which we all
know that alone only handles about five miles in either
direction of an airport. And then once you leave that

(01:41:36):
five mile area, you go to something called ARTECH, which
is RTCC, which is an air traffic control center that
handles flights fifty miles from the airport. So in Newark's case,
which is a big problem, is it's under control of Philadelphia,
which is having its own problems with equipment, So that

(01:41:59):
is where the problem lies in the newer case. And
then once you get further beyond that, it goes to
an air traffic control high altitude center. So it's a
very limited place where these problems are occurring, and that's
in the fifty mile range facilities that are usually the
problem in their.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
So when we hear Patrick that Newark is undermanned, I
mean just generically not enough people there in that air
traffic control world of Newark. You're saying that's only part
of the issue, because the reality is that a lot
of the air traffic controls actually taking place outside of
their area of purview.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
Yeah, basically, like here in LA the air traffic control
center is based in San Diego, believe it or not,
it's not even in Los Angeles. So yeah, like you're
seeing on the screen here, this is the actual Philadelphia
air traffic control center which is having the problem with
the antegraated systems, which you can probably see on your screen.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
In Europe, they figured out that this was a better
place to be served in the private sector as opposed
to public sector. So Europe's air traffic control system is
unitized to one center basically called Shandwick, which is in Ireland,
and it handles basically most of the Western europe air

(01:43:21):
traffic control and it does very well and it's very modern.
They figured out that getting the government out of that
was probably a better bet than letting each individual government
to try to operate it. So that's kind of where
I would like to see our system go, but I
don't think it will be that case.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
You'd like to see a more centralized kind of technology,
and you'd like to see one central place handle most
of the communications and aviation issues across the country, even
in a country that's the size of America.

Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
Right, Yeah, I think it'd be better served in the
private sector. I think in private sector could probably do
a better job than what we're seeing right now, which
is could be a very bad situation for I was
going to go to newarkcent this weekend coming up, but
I've decided against it just because of all the issue
is going on.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
It's certainly they're looking at delays and they're two and
three hour delays on a regular basis, but the aging
infrastructure seems as though that could be handled quickly. There
was money actually earmarked to address this issue. It was
earmarked by the Biden administration. It was in that big
infrastructure bill. But Trump has rescinded that money. I don't
know if they're going to if there's a way to

(01:44:36):
claw back the money, but it looks as though.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
I guess if it's allocated, I suppose they can probably
go get it and get that. That's probably what they're
going to use.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
For good thing. Yeah, yeah, you'd think, I hope so, yeah,
me too. And I'm wondering then about the hiring. So
that's the infrastructure, that's the technical infrastructure from a technological standpoint,
But what about the hiring. We're way down, apparently in
just the number of people that takes to man all

(01:45:05):
of these different air traffic control centers.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
No, it's it's immense. I mean you can break it
down to the smallest local airport to the to the
you know, LA X, to the air traffic control center,
and then even the bigger centers that handle the long
range of flights, which that was in Palmdale, California. So
there's three there's three different facilities to handle just the
flights coming in out of lax. For example, my goddaughter

(01:45:31):
called me up the other day and she wanted to
take up a career and being a pilot, and I said, well,
you know what, you may be better off going to
be an air traffic controller right now. You'll be better
opportunities for you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a it's a high
pressure job though. I mean, it really is tough, isn't it.
I mean, Patrick, I'm told that I don't have the
it in front of me, but there was an age
cut off because they're worried. The implied worry is that
people older couldn't even take that kind of pressure. The
demands of the job.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
Yeah, the shifts typically, and let's say the fifty mile
radius facility, the shifts are two hours at a time,
and then there's you know, then they are required to
take a thirty minute break in between shifts and they'll work,
you know, basically an eight hour shift, but it'll be
broken down with those two hour work shifts and then

(01:46:22):
a thirty minute interval to to decompress.

Speaker 1 (01:46:26):
I would like to say I'm going to double back
to something else in a second, but I wanted to
get to Michael Desai's mark, Please have Patrick talk about
traffic management before reaching approach control. I find it fashionating
separating of SFO inbounds are designed hundreds of miles before
reaching SFO. This is kind of what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's exact. So nor Cal is called
the Northern California Air Traffic Control Center, which again you
know they're seeing flights out probably a little bit beyond Nevada,
approaching the west coast, and then they're all basically sorted

(01:47:07):
out either by speed or direction, moving airplanes around to
sort of squinch them down into that approach for San
Francisco to take, for instance. And then the fifty mile
radius folks take it and they're really squinch it down
and they slow the airplanes down or speed them up,

(01:47:28):
depending on what the situation is. And then the last
five miles is the air traffic Control tower, the actual
physical tower you see at the airport. So yeah, it's
an interesting process. I would love to hopefully when my
show gets a green light and we'll be able to
do a whole couple episodes about just that so people
understand the architecture of it, because it's very it's to

(01:47:52):
a lay person. It's very daunting to understand that whole process,
but it's worked very well for many many So it's
just the equipment needs to be upgraded, and that's a certainty.
And I think maybe getting the government out of that
might be the answer.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
Yeah. I don't know, you and I part company on that.
I think that this idea somehow that I mean, I'm
not on just in general. I mean on aviation. I
yield to you all day, you know, of course, but
I just think this there's kind of a mistake of
notion that the private industry does everything better. And I
don't know that that's the case. I mean, but maybe
some kind of private public partnership.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
Yeah, that's exactly. Oh yeah, you need the government oversight
for sure, that's no doubt about that. I just think
the private sector can probably better facilitate, you know, upgrades,
things like that. Because it sounded that, you know, per
cost basis as opposed to a budget basis.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
Tell me what what you would advise us, those of
us traveling, those of us who have planned travel. I
see in the chat some people say I was planning travel,
but now I've canceled it because of this. I mean,
are the skuys essentially safe or would you avoid certain places?
I mean, you just canceled your trip to Newark? Well,
what are you Is that because of the inconvenience associated
with the laser because of safety, Like you're really worried?

(01:49:08):
Like wow, I mean, I'm not so sure it's it's
so safe to go to these places.

Speaker 6 (01:49:11):
No, I think it's safe.

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
I think the inconvenience. I think the big problem is
the airlines themselves overscheduling flights. That is a big problem.
United has gone on this mission to try to be
the biggest and best, and what happens is in those
cases they overflow the airports that they use for hubs.
In this case, I would if I was United, I'd

(01:49:34):
move all their flights that they want to add on
to d C. DC is also a hub for United
that's dullest, not national, So they have lots of room
they and they seem to be okay with their air
traffic control system. But New York is a tough, tough place.
And I'll tell you what. In the in the nineties,
I used to run an airline called Kiwi International, which

(01:49:57):
is based in Newark, and the the problem with that
airport is the runaways are too close together. So what
happens is if you get a heavy situation with weather
or something like that, every flight gets delayed. It's just inevitable.
So with this particular situation, I was I was going

(01:50:17):
to go to New York City actually, and I changed
my destination to JFK just because it's a little easier
to get in and out of JFK, even though it's
harder on the ground side. But no, it's New York
just is a hub for United Airlines and it's oversaturated
with flights. That's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
Well, I'm going to look into what's happening to the
money that was dedicated to upgrading the system. It was
when Buddhajetge was a DOT director and also you know
Biden was president, and maybe you can you have probably
more significant context than do I. But I'd love to
know really where that stands, because I can't imagine they
just froze all that infrastructure me.

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
Too, I mean, it really is. I have no idea
aware it went. So it should have been, it should
have been spent, and it's just spent wisely, I don't
know why it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
Cats and Jam says it's stressful enough without constantly worrying
that you could lose radar at anytime. That's crazy. Should
have a separate backup or something. And there's too much
in the airspace for these. This is true that the
you know, the newer going dark was like crazy, Patrick, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
I mean it wasn't. Again, it wasn't the five mile
radius of the airport. It was that fifty mile coming
into the airport where everything gets squeezed. So that is Yeah,
that is a major problem. There's no doubt about that whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
Uh. This is interesting. I don't know if this is right.
But hang on a second. I'll get to that in
a second. I'll get to that. The second I heard
the problem with radar at that airport was because the
maintenance people were fired by Musk and Trump, says Karen Cooper.
Maybe that's true. I don't Yeah, I don't know whether
that's true or not. Michael D says Patrick. When I FR,

(01:51:56):
what is that? Uh? In flight rules? Okay, influenced flight rules.
This is getting a little esoteric, But all right, this
is my last one to hear these one Patrick. When
I fr conditions exist at SFO, the airport in San
Francisco are not landings restricted to just one runway, And
doesn't that cause a shutdown?

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
It causes a slow down, doesn't cause a shutdown. All
airports are subject to weather. I mean, LAX can go down.
Reason I refer to LAX as I'm very familiar with it.
So yeah, I mean we have something called the dark
hole out there. After midnight, all airplanes are landing and
departing on the same runway. So what it means is

(01:52:37):
that the air traffic control has to allow a departure
and then let the arrival come back the opposite direction,
which puts airplanes in head on situations on that particular
after midnight especially. Yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
Of course. Yeah, I love that you. We put the
bat beam up and you responded, thank you, Patrick, So
good to see you want to hear.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
Can you talk about Air Force one?

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
What do you I mean this Katari thing? What do
you think?

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
Yeah, you know, I'm sure they want favors obviously, that's
that's what it's supposed to look like. That's the one
that they wanted to that the the government had had.
And this is during Trump's first term. He was he
was made a deal to get these two seven forty
seven eights which were destined to fly for trans Aero,

(01:53:33):
which was a Russian airline, but it went out of business,
and these two airplanes have never I mean they've flown
their test flights, but they've never been, you know, flown
in airline service. And I don't know what happened to
that deal, So tell you the truth, I don't know
why this is. And then this, this Katari airplane you
see here is a VIP type of configuration, you know,

(01:53:54):
everything the Air Force one would have need. And when
I when I heard about that, I found that that
was very interesting. I don't know why they would want
to donate that to the US government, but I'm sure
it's for some kind of favoritism.

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
I would think, yeah, you would, you would imagine, I mean,
they've never done it before, and of course it could
be wildly illegal, but you know that was in the
old days. Now nothing's wildly illegal. The basics of that
plan you're saying kind of conform to what the old
Air Force one was.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
Yeah, yeah, really really similar. Other than the electronic warfare
type things they have on board. You know, they have
a lot of secret stuff that I don't even know about.
But they that goes up in the top deck up there,
and that's probably what that would be the only sort
of reconfiguration I would think they would be necessary.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
Yeah, and you know, one has to think that they'll
have to go over it to make sure, as you say,
that things get reconfigured for American technologies and for and
to make sure that there's no existing kind of embedded
technology that could compromise from a national securities. There's a lot,
there's a lot going on there.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
But oh yeah, yeah, I mean the government, you know,
military is very good at configuring these airplanes. That's for sure.
That's they are very good at that.

Speaker 1 (01:55:12):
But again I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:55:13):
Sort of at a loss of what the why is
as opposed.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
To the how well I mean in this you know,
again we have this myth of American exceptionalism. How come
we can't build our own air force one? I mean
after so long, I mean, as you say, money's been
earmarked for it, Trump drew up new blueprints for it
or whatever, Okay, new plans, and yet I don't know,
it looks like we're going to be riding on the
Qatari ride for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
Yeah, I mean, it's Boeing's it's Boeing's issue, and Boeing's
got a lot of issues as it is, as we
both know. I mean, they're getting a little better at it,
and they sold a few more planes lately, but it's
going to take them some time to get back into
where they used to be.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
Thanks again for being here, my friend. Want to hear
about your TV show next time? I hope they'll be
good news.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
That's well, yeah, we did.

Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
We had a great meeting with a very significant celebrity
recently and he's all on board.

Speaker 1 (01:56:06):
So that's what it takes to sell a show. Now
you do have that, you need that attachment. So good stuff, Patrick.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
He's very well known in the aviation industry, so we're
looking forward to getting him on the contract.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
I love it. I love it. Good luck and stay
in touch. Talk soon, Patrick Gwyle, everybody, thank Bravo. Great
great stuff. Man. He's really yea, he knows the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
We forgot to ask him if you could do the
voiceover for his next documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
I don't want to be proactive on these things.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
Do you have to jump in and say, you.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Know what, I'm sure that he would do.

Speaker 2 (01:56:41):
Woice, You've got the documentary let's merge.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
Yeah, Kim feels that she that I neglected an opportunity Albert,
I mean Albert Patrick to to bust you, you know, yeah,
you when you need a narrator, yeah, a voiceover person.

Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
Yeah, well yeah, I'll let you know right away.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
Yeah, all right, call you is basically yeah, that didn't
seem you didn't seem like he was super on board
with the idea. But nonetheless, Uh, I have a minute
or two. I want to do some law and disorder.
But I'm running so late now.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
That's never stopped you before.

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
It has not, it has not, and it won't at
this time either.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
That's what I figured.

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
Yeah, I mean, I like to give the audience something
every day, a little extra something in addition to the
other extras. Let's do some law and disorder.

Speaker 4 (01:57:43):
In the criminal justice system.

Speaker 10 (01:57:44):
The people keeps, addicts, thieves, bums, linels, girls who can't
keep on address, and men who don't care are represented
by two separate and equally important groups. A cop, a
flat foot, a bullet, dick John Law, you're the fuzz,
the heat, you're poisoning, your trouble, your bad news.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
These are their stories. A nineteen year old Bay Area
guy accused of attempted kidnapping with multiple women pleading no contest,
told authorities he was just pranking them. What yeah, exactly right? Right?

(01:58:20):
What right? He was initially charged with five counts of
attempted kidnapping, one kind of assault, and it was really
pretty brutal, But in his plea agreement this week, he
pleaded no contest to two of the kidnapping charges, now
facing up to four years and ten months in custody,
three years of parole, and two fines up to ten
thousand dollars each. The man started to not a funny joke, No,

(01:58:46):
I don't see the humor. It was a woman and
her four year old standing outside of their home. He
parked his car outside the homes in San Mateo, which
is just south of San Francisco, by a bid on
the Peninsula. He allegedly grabbed her arm tried to force
her to go with him. This is while she's standing

(01:59:07):
there with her four year old. She screamed, fought back,
He ran back to his car and left. Anyway. He
did some version of this multiple times, told authorities it
was just a prank, all a misunderstanding, But looks as
though he is going to be paying a fine and
going away for at least what looks like close to

(01:59:27):
five years. A road rage victim addresses his killer in
court through AI. A clip of Chris Pelke, who died
in twenty twenty one, says, I believe in forgiveness through
this AI offering that was played in court. Wow, it's incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
How did they know what he would say? His family
gave the message.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
I guess the family is the one that crafted the message.
He was killed in a road rage shooting in Chandler, Arizona,
in twenty twenty one. Three and a half years later,
he appears in an Arizona court and addresses his killer
through AI. Weird he said this quote to Gabriel Jorkasidas,

(02:00:17):
the man who shot me. It is a shame we
encountered each other that day in those circumstances. In another
life we probably could have been friends. I believe in
forgiveness and a God who forgives. I always have and
I still do. He was thirty seven years old, devoutly religious,

(02:00:37):
as you could kind of tell from his remarks even
in the AI form. He was an Army combat vet
and he was shot at a red light after he
got out of his car and walked back toward the
other guy's car. Wha yeah, quite extraordinary. And the family says,

(02:00:58):
we just kept coming back to what would Chris say
if you were alive? And there it is bizarre, kind
of sign of the times. But and Meta losing a case,
you might, oh yeah, not a lot of Meta fans here.

(02:01:21):
Meta the Platforms won a one hundred and sixty eight
million dollar verdict against the Israeli surveillance firm NSO. That
was a six year court case between Meta, the US's
biggest social networking platform, and the world's best known spyware company.

(02:01:43):
Oh the met So the Meta people won. It was
the spyware company that lost this case. I see so
Meta and this NSO. This. They are huge and they
are in everything. And apparently Meta won a December ruling

(02:02:04):
against them because they apparently exploited a bug in the
messaging service What's App and they use that bug to
plant spyware on user's phones. Real so the jury in
California ruling that NSO again not Meta, the Meta owns
What's App. That's what this is about. That NSO owed

(02:02:28):
Meta about half a million dollars in compensatory damages and
a one hundred and sixty seven million dollar ruling impunitive damages.
And Meta said today's verdict in the What's App case
is an important step forward for privacy and security as
the first victory against development and use of the illegal

(02:02:50):
spyware that threatens the safety and privacy of everyone. NSO
said they're going to carefully examine the verdicts details and
pursue appropriately remedies. Yeah, kind of a different rep out
of that world. And finally, it's the viral video that
you've seen. We saved it to the very end of

(02:03:11):
the show. Kim said, lead with it, lead with it,
go do it no. I said, gosh, it's a guy
crapping on somebody's and it was like Kim said, do
it no.

Speaker 2 (02:03:23):
Save the pooper for the end.

Speaker 1 (02:03:25):
A couple of Los Angeles families waking up to unpleasant
Mother's Day deliveries on Sunday. You know what I'm talking about.
A pair of Californians submitting videos showing a delivery driver
for Amazon pulling down her shorts and relieving herself in
the front yards of two different Woodland Hills homes. Woodland

(02:03:49):
Hills in southern Californias outside of LA Who does that?
Somebody who has to go to the bathroom real badly,
or somebody who's really angry find a star. In the
first video, the woman has shown climbing the homeowner's front
porch stairs on Sunday delivering a package on Mother's Day.
The home security footage showed what appeared to be completely

(02:04:12):
normal occurrences until the driver started walking away from the
porch and pulling up her pants on the nearby porch.
This is all stuff from security video. Of course, on
the nearby porch, there was what appeared to be human
poop the ground in front of that. Fecal matter appeared

(02:04:35):
to be wet from an unknown substance as well. They
think that she both pooed and ped the apparently outside
the property there was a dirty paper towel left on
the ground and all of this stuff seems related. After

(02:04:57):
seeing that video on television, other family submitted a video
showing what appears to be the same Amazon delivery woman
entering through their wooden gate and delivering a package, then
dropping her shorts there and urinating on the brick walkway.

Speaker 2 (02:05:15):
Is it the same lady?

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
It looks to be the same person. When asked for
a statement, Amazon said, we're deeply disturbed by the unacceptable
behavior of this delivery driver. Apologized to the customer it
was involved. We immediately identified the drive and they're no
longer delivering on behalf of Amazon. And that is you

(02:05:41):
know cy s guy. Yeah, that's right. It's pretty much
a good that's right. No more pooping or peing.

Speaker 2 (02:05:48):
It's like she picked the houses with the ring cameras
and did it on purpose.

Speaker 1 (02:05:52):
I know, it's weird. I mean it is like the front.
It's weird because if you were trying to conceal that
action or activity, you go around the side, you'd look
and there are a lot of places along her route
that she could have done it, but she just let
it rip. Serial pooper, says Obi Wan. That's exactly right.

(02:06:12):
She's a serial pooper. And what do you do, well,
you don't keep them in your employee. Nope. And that's
law and disorder for today. Tune in again next time
for more law and disorder. I'm a Mark Thompson show.

Speaker 10 (02:06:27):
All right, that's it, let's roll, Hey, let's we can't
full out there.

Speaker 1 (02:06:32):
I love it, can't get enough of it. Sadly we
must wrap up. Before I do wrap up, I want
to thank everybody who has contributed and help us through
the Sprinktching fundraise that's going on. I love this show
and the chatter, says Vicky and Sacelito with a twenty
dollars super Chat shout shout out, VICKI thank you so much.

(02:07:00):
And we also I was just going to share with
you a couple of people did something else. They've contacted
me and they're sending checks, which is really kind of cool,
just to help us along the way. And I will
note those names to Tony so we'll be able to
add them to our scroll. And I also wanted to

(02:07:22):
note that several people took their regular Patreon contributions Kim
and they augmented it. In other words, they might be
twenty dollars a month they send us, they made it
thirty dollars a month, this kind of thing. Jane O
is one of those people from ten dollars a month
to twenty dollars a month on Patreons. That really helps,

(02:07:42):
and they're a bunch more I will recognize them. And lastly,
people reaching out to me about my sweet Charlie who
is having a rough time. As you know, we had
to put down our suite, I mean, adorable young cat
of the three that I got from the shelter, Moky,

(02:08:04):
and it was heartbreaking and difficult. And I think in
now we're looking at Charlie, who is struggling with the
loss of this other cat and his own physical problems
which are honestly pretty substantial. But he's still alive. He's
what I wanted to say, because someone said, I'm so
sorry about Charlie, and the reality is Charlie is still

(02:08:25):
with us.

Speaker 2 (02:08:25):
So we're weird to think that cats feel loss, that
cats know that their you know, their other cat mate
has gone.

Speaker 1 (02:08:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08:36):
Yeah, that rather, it's a rather human like quality to
feel a loss, to be sad over the absence of
another creature. It's interesting, I mean it's sad and also
interesting to me that cats feel that too.

Speaker 1 (02:08:49):
Well, this goes to something that I fundamentally believe and
I think is a really important thing to give in mind,
and that is all animals have emotion. All animals we think, oh,
isn't it you know? And I can't blame us for
thinking it. I mean, you know, we are evolved and
our thinking is and our thoughts are evolved, and we
understand the concept of death and all this kind of thing.

(02:09:12):
Animals are evolved also. I get it they don't speak,
but apart from that, they may be far more evolved
than we are and have a greater connection to loss
than we have. In fact, cows, the bond between the
mother cow and the offspring that may be more significant

(02:09:34):
than the human bond. Take that in for a second,
and just because they don't speak, we may lose that plot,
but it's real. That's why when you know, have to
remove calves from the mother for dairy, because that milk
is for the calve, it is so heartbreaking because the
mother feels that loss, maybe even more profoundly than human loss.

(02:09:57):
So that's the way you get milk. You get it
from dairy cows who have been impregnated. They produce milk,
and then the calf is born and taken away from
the mother right away in the first twenty four hours.
Typically it might be just hours. And then she is
hooked up to these machines and they milk, milk, milk, milker,
and she's milked unrelentingly. It's the life of a dry

(02:10:17):
cow's really tough.

Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
I'm reminded also about orcas and how you know they
take the baby orco away, the mother never really gets
over it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:25):
No, there's a documented case of an orca actually taking
their own life out of that profound sense of loss.
And elephants, et cetera. But throughout the animal kingdom they
feel attachment loss. You'll note when you pay attention to
one dog, you don't pay attention to the other the
other dog comes up. I mean, there's a quality of right,

(02:10:45):
of jealousy or whatever you want to call it. We
ascribe certain you know, labels to it. But the reality
is they are evolved, and so my heart breaks for
them the way they feel the heartbreak himselves. So anyway,
I love that we we could end with a sermon everybody.

(02:11:06):
It was at I know it's I gotta I thank you.
I have to catch my lunch. It's very very good.
This is no picnic, no summer Cat's not. You're gonna
get a little truth, the truth. Just yeah, I don't, don't,
I don't. I try to go up on something and
she then Kim mentioned the thing. But it's my fault

(02:11:27):
because I mentioned the thing the email. Anyway, I that's
all right. What is it, Tony?

Speaker 4 (02:11:34):
There are the pole resorts.

Speaker 1 (02:11:35):
Trump gets a bowing seven forty seven gift from Qatar.
What is going on? Here are the results. Reeks of
Corruption gets sixty eight percent, influence, petting twenty eight percent,
bond movie plot six percent, and a quote gift four percent.
Reeks of Corruption wins the day. All right, May you
all get planes in your Christmas show? Steven Mark Thompson Show,

(02:11:59):
Bubba Kim's After Party, Lie is next. We are out
of time, David K. Johnston tomorrow please join us until then,
Bye bye

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