November 6, 2023 • 59 mins
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HEAR IT HERE before it goes public !!!
My guest in a few hours is another friend for over 20 years Ted Roe Ted has been involved in NARCAP ( NATIONAL AVIATION REPORTING CENTRE ON ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA ) and now UAP MEDS which is going to make History for us all as Experiencers and has worked closely in congressional hearings .We will be talking about his own many CEO5K which are traumatic life changing as we know and then we have the EXCLUSIVE .
THANK ~YOU Ted for sharing this with me on my podcast
I Feel honored.
https://www.narcap.org/
https://ufocongress.com/ted-roe/
www.brigittebarclay.com
brigittebarclay@gmail.com
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Line. Welcome to The Naked Truthand now your Hostria Bridgid bar Clay.
Good evening, America and good morningin England. Welcome to the Unexed Radio.
And this is my show called TheNaked Truth and this is my podcast
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on the onexed Radio. Tonight's guestis a bit of an exclusive. It's
a friend that I've known for aboutwell over twenty years. Met at a
conference, a Grown Birdsall conference herein England, and his name is Tedrow.
And Tedrow has worked well. Hewas a co founder of our CAP,
which is a national aviation reporting centerof anonymous phenomena, and he stayed
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within the aerial phenomena. But nowhe is doing something very exclusive which will
be very well. It's it's recordbreaking and very it's it's in history,
really in the making. It's forpeople that have had experience of somewhere to
go medically. So without further adoagain, I'm going to introduce you to
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Ted Row and let him talk.We have a really massive exclusive at the
end of this which when he toldme, I was thought, oh wow.
And he's letting us know it beforeit goes to the press, which
is next week. I do believeTed. Are you there? He very
very welcome to England. Hello Alaska, right, yes, yes, slightly
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colder there than it is here,little bit, yeah, right car in
the morning, Oh yeah, yeah, I should imagine it's not just scraping
it off, it's just abandon thecar. I'm staying in, right,
Ted. I'd like you to introduceyourself, because only you can introduce yourself
the best that you can, Soplease introduce yourself. Well, sure,
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my name's Ted Rowe. I'm theco founder of the National Aviation Reporting Center
on an almost phenomena. I'm alsoa co founder and program designer for the
American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics UAPAviation Safety Program. Worked on a small
team to put that together. AndI'm the current founder and executive officer for
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UAP Medical Coalition, which is aprogram that's designed to inform mental health and
medical professionals about UAP and UAP exposuresto encourage research and improve patient care.
That's quite something. And also,you know, back when you were having
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your experiences are experiences everyone else's experiencesin the past. If something like this
was put into place, you knowthis is going to go. This is
this is making history really for everybodyeverywhere to go. Yeah. The whole
point is to get the mainstream mentalhealth and medical people, the first responders,
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and law enforcement up to speed onthe UAP matter, so that they
can actually help people with exposures ratherthan make it worse. Those of us
who've had exposures and don't consider thema good thing have not found much support
out there. We were all laughedat when I went to the doctors for
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radiation or to Panga Canyon for somethingelse personal. Yeah, so now hopefully
you know they're you know, andwe've all you know, we've all spoken
to people professionally and they've just lookedat us. So you know, now's
the time to make change. Ofchange is happening in Congress, within Congress,
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and you have worked within Congress,which I'd like to hear about it.
I mean, it is now isthe time for when everything changes,
Everything has to change, everything's gotto be put on the table. So
talk to me about your Congress.Well, let's just back it up,
just to hear. In twenty twentyone, when the Office of the Director
of National Intelligence released their report onUAP, along with the Reality of UAP
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has described they cited three primary concerns, national security, aviation safety, and
stigma. And I've been the onlygroup working on aviation safety issues with this
all along, and stigma has definedevery move I ever made in eupology.
I wouldn't be here if it wasn'tfor stigma, you know, because I'm
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doing the work. You're doing thework rather than you know, the professionals
that need to pay up the ballhere and help. And as we work
with the nuts and bolt side ofthings, So I'm working with aeronautical scientists
and engineers and trying to develop solidunderstandings about this. There is the other
side of the conversation, which isthat people who have exposures to UAP tend
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to not do well with them.And I've been exposed to them and it's
not been good for my life.So you know, this is kind of
the motivation behind all of this.The conversation is matured to a point where
we can start pushing on this becauseit isn't just licensing, and I think
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a lot of understand that. Soit's funny because I'm talking about pilot sizings
or passengers in airplanes. Andrew Goffwas one of my guests last week,
and his one of his sightings waswhen he was in an a plane and
he asked if the other guy hadseen it. He just witnessed. Well,
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if you go back, listen,he just witnessed. And I said
to him, he just witnessed hisobject flying past, and the other guy
didn't see. He wasn't sitting atthe window. And I said, do
you know what you know that,you know where you were going, you
know what flight you were on.Why don't you see if anyone else had
seen it, or speak to thepilots that had seen it, because that
would have been on rate. Andhe said, that's interesting. Yeah,
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So I think more and more peopleare seeing things well as they are,
but also maybe from planes as well. So I think, I think so.
I think we're getting more reports becausethe stigma's lifting, more people feel
they can speak, so we're hearingmore. We're hearing more from pilots.
For the longest time, we didn't. Yes, a lot of the work
I did with NARCAP was very muchunderground. Yeah, they didn't want to
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tell, but they wanted to speakto somebody, that's right. We everything
we did was confidential. Yeah,and then the government agreed with us,
and and uh, look at that. All of a sudden, my phone
started ringing, and I could kindof look out and look above ground and
see if there was a place forme, and apparently there was. And
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now now the situation's developing, andI say, take as much ground as
we can. You know, thesituation changes. Okay, that's where we
are now. But let's go back. When we met in two thousand and
one, a long time and along time ago, you spoke to me
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about you'd had your own encounters.And we're not just talking encounters. We're
talking remarkable close encounters of the thirdkind, fourth kind, fifth kind.
I could associate with you because theyfor me having a craft above my head.
So talk to me, because backthen you couldn't talk about any of
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your encounters. You had to keepit all very low key. Along you
know, friends, talk to meabout some of your encounters. Please.
Well, one that kind of parallelsyours happened to me in Oakland in nineteen
ninety nine. And I've talked aboutthis on in other venues, but it
was similar to yours, and thatit was a very close approach, and
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I had the attention of the devicewhatever and its occupants. In my case,
it was a cylinder, not adisc. Let's go back, you
said, occupants. Yes, yeah, it was transparent. You could see
into it, so you could seethe crew looking back at us and they
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You're in a car, weren't youat the time, right, Yeah,
we were on a eighty southbound inOakland on the freeway there in daylight as
well. Yeah. Yeah, itdoes happen in broad daylight, does it
does? And it'll happen when you'renot asleep and not having sleep terrors and
all the rest of it. Atfour o'clock, fire member, wasn't it.
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Yeah, it was a little afterfour. But back then, you
know, I didn't really know whatto do. I was very sick,
and it was very destabilizing. Ifelt very vulnerable and fragile. I didn't
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I didn't have a lot of composure. And when I finally one day,
I thought, geez, you know, somebody down at Ames Research Center knows
about this. They have an exobiologyunit. I wrote a little note to
the pr office at Ames, andnot long after, doctor Richard Haynes came
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back to me, who he wasthe first chief of the Space Human Factor's
office at Ames and a longtime UFOresearcher with an interest in aviation cases,
and so he interviewed the witnesses,the other two witnesses, myself, and
within a few months we were settingup in our cap and then we pulled
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together our team from there. Andthen I met you about a year later.
Oh gosh, so it was veryclose then, Oh right, yeah,
and so I'd been invited to speakat at Graham's conference there in Leeds,
and so it's kind of my firstpublic speaking. It was not a
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shining hour for this guy, butagain it was kind of an introduction.
I met John Mack and Blud Hopkinsand Nick and everybody who was anybody was
there pretty much, so I gotto learn quite a bit right away.
It was a good introduction to thefield, meeting the best of the past.
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Yeah, so that's just the oneencounter. Yeah, that's just one.
This has been going on since Iwas five years old, off and
on, and I could go adecade without anything happening, and then have
four or five things happen and thennothing for another stretch. You know.
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It's not like it happens every timeI go outside but it happens often enough,
often enough that I don't want togo outside. There are times when
I don't want to that I justit's too destabilizing. My whole world turns
upside down, and one of thosethings is out there. It scars me
for a long time. So andfor the other passengers in the car,
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Yeah, they recollect quite a lotof what happened. Oh yeah, yeah,
they all recall the same incident moreor less, with some variation that
you'd expect with people shock, yeah, being different in all. But it
ended up breaking my relationships with thosepeople, doesn't it. Yeah. Yeah,
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My girlfriend and I and then andthen our friend Ian and he went
first to stop talking. And youknow, nobody wants to be reminded of
being a victim, and nobody wantsto be around somebody that attracts this kind
of stuff, you know. Imean, some people feel like they would
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like to do that, but itis so damaging and toxic to relationships that
that, uh, and any responsibleperson that's having these experiences ought to think
twice about exposing other people to them. You know, I'm pretty careful about
it myself, and I'm not sayingthat everybody should live the way I do,
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but I'm really circumspect about involving otherpeople in this directly. So,
so there was missing time there aswell, wasn't there. Yeah, picked
up about a little over three hourson the freeway. Yeah, in the
space of about seventy seconds linear time. See, you know there's a lot
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of I haven't really, you know, even though I went to work with
Bud Hopkins and Dolores Cannon on theencounter. I mean, you know,
you're that's quite remarkable. It is. That is quite remarkable, isn't it
really? You know, because peoplejust think it happens late at night.
Yeah, out down the lane.No. Eight and a half million people
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in the Bay area in this thing. Sought us out in the late afternoon
because you saw it coming towards you, didn't you. Yeah, it intercepted
basically, we saw it. Itturned broadside to our direction of travel.
We just come off the Bay Bridgeinterchange and we're southbound on eight eighty and
there's a curve. So we makethe curve and as we're making the curb,
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this thing is coming down on anintercept and it stops so that it's
centered in our windscreen. As we'refacing it as we came around the curve
it was about a mile away,and knew what he was doing then.
Yeah, yeah, it was awareof us, aware of me. I
don't know how that is. Doyou think it's because of yourself, because
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of your experiences before beforehand? Yeah, it's a continuation of that, whatever
that is, whatever that process isabout. The other two had experiences as
well, one of them, oneof them had, the other one hadn't.
With me, no, and neitherof them had had anything that extensive.
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One of them had an ORB comeinto her room while her and her
mom were there when she was veryyoung and then but my friend had never
never been exposed to it, neverseen it as far as he knew.
See that. That's what I oftenthink about Jane, that was next to
me in the car that you know, she then went, you know,
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off the face of the planet thenext day. Well, actually I was
like you so dazed that afterwards thatI don't I just knew that I had
to get away and and she did, and then we couldn't track her down.
So you know, everyone goes ina different different path, which you
know, I always say it theamazing if she you know, comes forward
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I would absolutely love that, butyou know she's obviously traumatized by it as
well. Well, you can't blamethem, you know, these things are
you know, people say, gee, I wish I could see one.
You know, you don't want theattention of one of these things, you
know, when they're so close,When they're so close, and if if
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you communicate with them as well,you know, you don't know what's next.
It is like watching a paranormal film. You know, bad things can
happen. Yeah, oh yeah,yeah. Mike Cleveland wrote in his book
The Messenger about the Owl had anowl and a printer scanner episode and that
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was due to an object and anowl. And that was honestly, that
was quite hairy. That was reallyscary. That went with it. Okay,
right, so let's talk about theUAP Medical dot Org that you're doing.
I want to know intensively what itinvolves, where people can go,
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how much it's been set up firstlyfor people to go to, and what
type of therapies are there are peoplethat are they hypnotherapists, you know what?
Tell me a bit more please.Okay, So the program itself doesn't
actually minister two experiencers Okay, weminister to the people that treat experiencers.
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So we're providing information to the mentalhealth and medical professionals that have no grounding
in this at all and letting themknow that it's real, it exists,
and here are the scope of experiencesthat people have had. Bring your skill
set, do some research and helpus improve patient care for these people.
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So it's partly that, it's partlyworking with policy and advocating. Our military
and veterans who are exposed to thisneed support. So you're putting this in
place now due to what's happening atCongress. Yes, yeah, well this
is our mission. I've been We'resixteen months in on it. I've got
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a staff of thirty about we're doingall of the business development that goes along
with that, hunting down funding andthis kind of thing. What we're also
doing is providing position papers, informationand a lot of it about U A
P and UAP exposures. We havea forum that we manage so that that
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mental health and medical professionals can participatethrough an ALIAS and an avatar so they
don't have to risk their their theirprofessional credential on learning more about this and
depending on where you are in theworld. It can truly threaten your future
in your chosen location. So wedo that. We do outreach to key
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stakeholders, including legislative outreach, toinform legislators that we exist and that there
is an issue that involves people's healthand well being their constituents, including the
military and veterans, including pilots,which is a group I've been in service
to for the last two decades ormore specifically, But there are a number
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of subgroups that are underserved around thisidea of UAP exposure, and we're here
to advocate for them and to helpimprove that process all along. In every
way, there we saying that Congress, with the pilots that are gone forward,
that they are seeking medical help.In some cases I believe they are.
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It hasn't the conversation hasn't matured yetto that level of what insurers need
to be thinking about. But it'sgoing to For example, if you have
first responders, if you have lawenforcement, if you have ems. People
that come on seen and are exposedto UAP in a new environment where they're
allowed to speak about it, theymay need mental health or medical support,
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and who pays for that and howis that managed and what is the policy
around that? Do they they ifthey see one of the these things and
they reported, are they obligated togo get screened? Uh, this kind
of thing? And how about witnessesif they were in the process of doing
something to help people on the groundwho are claiming that exposure, how do
they manage that? So all ofthese conversations have to take place along with
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the Hey, it'd be a goodidea to take care of people here,
you know, but you need tounderstand. Okay, it's policy, it's
insurance, it's which is liability,basically, it's uh, it's information and
education. And then and then it'suh uh standing back and letting them engage,
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letting them do the work that theyknow how to do. Let the
psychologists and the medical scientists do whatthey know how to do and apply it
to this particular problem so we canget to the right place. You know,
for us, how far how faris everything? Is things being draft
up now for Congress? Then putthis forward? Well, yeah, I
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mean we're in a constant build withthe organization, and we're constantly in dialogue
with our legislative outreach process. Soit moves at the pace that it moves,
so when the conversation starts moving tophysiological and psychological issues, then we'll
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be there as a go to tooffer support, hopefully not the only ones.
There's a program that's getting underway therein England called UAP Consulting and one
of their groups is Unhidden dot organd I've worked a bit with these people
for the last few months and it'sbeen very satisfying to watch them put it
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together and they have. Okay,so I haven't heard of that, and
I'm sure lots of people haven't heardof that as well. So how long
has that been going over here oris that with the help of yourself as
well? Well? It's been goingon for five or six months that I'm
aware of. I've been sitting inon a couple of meetings and just you
know, trying to be supportive becauseit's a good idea and we kind of
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help each other out, you know, just in acknowledging each other right and
making connections. I'm trying to getsome of their mds in touch with some
of the m ds I pulled togetherin Australia and some of the US to
talk about it worldwide. Doesn't it, Yeah, it does in America.
You know, you can't go youcan't go around thinking you're the only one
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and that you want to be theonly one and there can only be one
winner and all of this. Whatyou need is a lot of people thinking
about this. You need a lotof groups doing this work. And the
work that I'm doing is specialized andlocalized in the United States. But UAP
Consulting is working, and Unhidden isworking in the UK, and UAP MED
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Australia is working in Australia. Andonce they get stood up, they don't
have to be UAP MED Australia.They can be wherever they want to be
helping them get going. Gosh,and we need more people thinking about this.
This idea of abduction phenomenon being whoneeds to be revisited. Along with
all these stories of lights and objectsin the sky, we have a parallel
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of other stories. Your story,my story, other stories, and it's
time we got some of the supportthat we need and that ASIE recognized as
the other side of the problem.The thing is it starts generally, well,
you can have the one off encounters, but generally when you're young,
right, so you know a youngchild there. Let's have a look at
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John Mack when he went to theschool yard he got the children to draw.
You know, it starts so young, and yeah, you know,
I still have the images in myhead of what happened to me when I
was younger, me too, exactly, So it is a true You're right,
it is a trauma, even thoughI feel that I'm okay, a
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lot of other people think are batshitcrazy, but you know, or he's
got tim for but you know,it is about and I wish, I
wish now, I wish now thatyou know, it is time for change.
And I'm so glad that I've stayedin it and you've in it.
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You've stayed in it, and alot of us have because you know,
obviously we still wouldn't be here ifyou weren't truthful to to to what's happened
to us. I know. Soit's yeah, it's overwhelming. And like
I said to you before, thereare a few people that I know that
would oh be gosh, they'd becrying on their knees knowing that something like
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this is around for people to havea voice too. Because I've heard a
lot of gratitude out there. Yeah, and I know that there is a
whole unserved segment of our population andit's a lot more people than you'd think.
Yeah, And it's really hard toget your mind around how that is
possible. Yes, Because like Isaid to you, and I've said it
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many times, every encounter is different. So just when you think that,
you think, all right, okay, and then you're right. You might
not have some for a couple ofyears, and then you might have quite
a few, and then you knowthere is no rhyme or reason for it,
and then boom, something else happensand it's completely different, and you
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just what I mean is it's achallenge. It's a challenge. And mostly
it's part of the reason I kindof come down the side that it's probably
not a good situation. And ifwe're if we're this much confused about it,
and but we know what's happening,probably not a good situation. Well,
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considering we've all got to get onwith our lives, work, bring
up families, you know. Yeah, I'm going to spend your life looking
over your shoulder all the time andwhat might be coming up to drive you
know in all of it? Yeah, yeah, I know you know.
That's the funny thing about it isis that I used to laugh about all
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this stuff even though I was livingit. I didn't realize, you know,
all of a sudden, and thenI sat up one day and I
remembered, Holy cow, I've beenway too close to these things, way
too many times. I have toomany of these stories, you know,
what is going on here? Andit didn't stop there. It kept going
on, and it involved all ofthose little sub teams, you know,
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the white pick up in the desertright with the security people in it.
I went through one of those withmy son, guys showing up that you
don't know who they are knocking onyour door. I've had any number of
kind of experiences around our cap,you know, just dealing with the public
in general. Who knows what comesout of all of that. But the
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one thing I've learned is that forevery story I get, there's got to
be dozens that I'm not getting right. And when it comes to the abduction
story, that's the same thing.And I don't know what all people experience
out there. I do know thatthat it seems to be variable, that
my story isn't necessarily the core story, you know, it's a basic story.
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It's it's kind of the consistent onethat's been told since the seventies.
But but it's not like a lotof the stories you hear today. Well
as because because of because of whywell, because well just the lights,
Well what what they report happening,you know, like like in my case,
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the occupant cases involved what look likegrays, you know, and what
are commonly referred to as grace.Other people tell other stories about other things,
and I have nothing to say aboutthat. So right, you know,
I'm going to hold you there.I've been talked by race. We've
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So Ted I was thinking on thecommercial break right listen, with all
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the encounters that all of us havehad in our lives, what would you
say was probably the most I don'twant to say meaningful, because I think
they all carry something. What isthe one that sticks out remarkably from your
mind? I know that you're sayingabout the freeway, but what else is
there that's happened to you? Well, you know, it's more about taking
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it as a whole. If youlook at all of the experiences together,
you know, they don't have meaninguntil you give them thought, until you
bring insight and objectivity to them andtry to understand them on their own,
which just that one counter right,right, you know, to not project
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your own biases or your own beliefson it, and to try to be
pure with what you learned and thenact on it accordingly. And that can
take a long time. But thatwas the journey I went through in a
lifetime of exposures. That's what itled me to, was training my awareness.
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I went through a lot of verydirect work with that, and those
who know me know a bit aboutthat. I did a lot of core
Buddhist training, which is really veryhelpful in engaging this and other issues in
your life. But it was allof these experiences together. None of them
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particularly had meaning when they happened otherthan they derailed me. They got my
attention. It knocked me off balance. Emotionally, I wasn't stable. Psychologically
I wasn't stable. But it wasthe thought I gave it afterwards and the
time, the attention that it neededto clearly comprehend it. And then once
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I got to that point, thenI could actually come to some understanding about
what was happening to me and whatwas happening to others and what might help.
So that's kind of what led todoing you ap me MED was just
training self awareness. None of theseexperiences had any purpose that I know other
than that only that which is knownto those who were doing it, you
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know it. I had no ideawhat it was about. They did.
They knew what they were doing andwhy they're doing it, but they weren't
telling me. And so, youknow, the you can project anything you
want on it, but what youcan't do is stop it, you know.
So here you are with these recurringexperiences that are invasive. They're invasive
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psychologically as well as physically as wellas you know, just in your home
space. You don't have a spaceto be It's safe, you know,
and you can project anything you wanton it. You could say you were
touched by the hand of God,you know, and it was the greatest
thing that ever happened to you,and the star people love you and all
this other stuff. It won't changeanything. And you can turn it around
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and look at it the other wayand that won't change anything either. But
there's the realism of it right there. You don't know, and you should
know if something's taking liberties with youto this degree, you should know why
this is happening, you know,and you don't. So getting getting yourself
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clear and dumping bias and baggage soyou can have an objective look at what
you've been through is probably the firststep, and that will change your life
in so many ways beyond just thissubject. Your awareness comes up and suddenly
things that you didn't notice before you'renoticing very early. You know, you're
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seeing personality quirks, you're seeing activityin your environment. You're aware of things
more. You're aware that you're beingemotional about things. You notice your own
interstate and that it's not consistent andwhen it varies, you notice that it's
that's happening, you know. So, uh, that's part of the benefit
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of all raising your awareness an objective. I think. You know, when
you've had let's say, let's sayyou have an encounter the savening, right,
it's those it's not just afterwards,it's those that those period of days
afterwards. And I'm saying that fromlike you, when you've had quite a
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few encounters, so it's not likeyou're having it for the first time and
you think, wow, you knowor whatever, or however the situation,
because it might not be a goodsituation, right, but you know,
it's that. It is that you'reyou're right, It's that me hanging onto
the car after I'd had my encounter, you know, just hanging on,
didn't want to look around, didn'twant to look at anything, just had
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to look on the floor, didn'twant to look up, didn't want to
look around. I felt drunk,you know, all of those situations.
It's it's the after effect, isn'tit. It's the it is the after
effect, and yeah, it is. Yeah, you have to cope with
the incident itself in the context thatit presents in, which is one that
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society does not support. You're alone. You are alone even talk to people
about it either, even though Ihadn't encounters like I said that the guy
that I was living with, Billy, I'd had a UFO account with here
in England with him, and youknow, and I'll always say, he's
the first person. He wouldn't believewhat happened to me, and I couldn't
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say anything, you know, soand then you just sort of like literally
just shut down, don't you.And I didn't even think about looking for
physical effects or anything like that becauseI wouldn't have known to. And like
I said, you you know,not that long ago about when that happened
last year that had a triangle onme and stuff, so you know,
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and I'd only know that because Iwas like, oh wow, you know,
and then you put pieces together,okay, right, So Race will
put it all up on the onthe bottom. It's in the bio in
regards to going to the UAP Medicaluap med dot org to find out and
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it's on YouTube because I went ontoYouTube as well, and I think I
put a link on my bio forit as well for people to go and
it is actually, you know,really I didn't know it existed. I
mean I did know it existed byyou, but when I went onto the
YouTube, it's like, oh,hang on a minute, I've got some
hours to watch here, and obviouslymore hours. Right, I'd recommend taking
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a look at the anomalous Health incidentvideo that we put together there, which
kind of goes along with the government'skind of screening people that might have been
exposed to something unusual. They sayit's for Havana syndrome, but they kind
of quit talking about that. Itsays what sorry, they say it involves
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havana syndrome? What's that it was? At one time it was believed that
some of our embassy personnel were beingattacked by unconventional weapons adversaries. And uh,
I think they've changed their tune alittle bit on that now, but
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it was coming from somewhere else.Yeah, and there's there's a syndrome they
can identify that that that they seea trend in people who are exposed to
it. So we will take alook at that video. Hi, It's
kind of shows you what they're suspectingthat people are when they get close to
U A p are getting injured.Uh, there's there's traumatic brain injury involved,
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and it may may have to dowith with aspects of the environment when
u apre present emanations coming off thedevices or something else. Well, I
think this leads very nicely into theexclusive. It does. I see how
you did that, right? Okay, we have an exclusive from Ted right
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he told me earlier, I liketo said, really, oh my god,
and I visioned it in my headand I just thought, oh wow,
amazing. I am just going tolet you start from the beginning,
and this is going to go tothe news next week. Is this correct?
Yeah? Most likely, Yeah,yeah, we should be rolling out
with it in the next week orso. Basically, what happened was I
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was approached by a couple of fieldresearchers UAP field researchers who had who claimed
to have been assaulted by UAP andhad documented it on infrared cameras and it's
pretty good, pretty good footage.We let them tell the story what happened
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and how it happened, and thenalong with the video of it happening,
and then we're going to do asecond video with our experts at UAP MED,
our mental health and medical and lawenforcement, first responder tactical people and
just kind of go over some ofthe implications that arise from this. Uh,
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some of the things that are interestingabout this or the UAP or not
visible to the naked eye. Theycould only be seen in the infrared.
Okay, start from the beginning.Start from the beginning situation talk a strip.
Well, okay, so they're there. They pull up out on the
beach to set up for a nightwatch watching the researchers that I was speaking
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of, and they the first thingthey do is they get out and they
scan the horizon with infrared cameras becauseoftentimes u AP are not visible to the
naked eye, so what night visionjust night vision goggles and probably better grade
than that. They have pretty goodequipment, and immediately they see a triangular
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formation of lights just offshore, notfar whereabouts this which state east east coast.
That's as far as I'll go atthis point. Yeah, they pull
out a infrared emitter, which islike a laser, only it immense infrared
light, and they poke it.They come and get me. Yeah,
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we rattled it a couple of times. Nothing happened. Uh. They were
remarking about how they couldn't see itwith their normal camera, but they could
see it through the night vision andjust just basic stuff, you know,
chatter that you would think. Andthen and then they did it again,
only a little more deliberately. Theypainted this thing with the infrared light and
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it deployed a ball of light thatwas only visible to their infrared camera,
and it came under the water towardsthem and I'm going to slow down.
It came underneath the water towards them. Okay, yeah, and they it
was an infrared light source right thatthey could see. And this is a
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well known area as well where thishappens, well and enough known yet I
wouldn't call it private land. Butthey started to they started to turn and
run when it came out of thewater and it expressed into a long,
horizontal band of light and struck themand they were paralyzed. They fell down,
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legs didn't work. They had secondarysymptoms that showed up later of swollen
lymph glands and some other things thatwere troubling. And it basically just kind
of showed to me. It showeda number of things tactical issues. Don't
don't do that, don't don't shineyour flashlight on them, don't point a
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laser out not using a wage aboardfor a spirit, right, Yeah,
probably not a good idea. Yeah, if any horror movie that's ever been
written is right, then probably nota good idea. We do use the
things, and you know that thelights sources or if you see something,
you can communicate with it. Youknow, I've often said this about e
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seti Ranch. I saw lights,and you communicate with it. And I
said what it was going to do, and it did. So, you
know, there's lots of other ways. But to see it coming towards you
underneath the water, you're you know, I can picture it now. You
were just like, see this,did the water raise up? No?
No? And it came underneath Yeah, And it came right into the surf
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before it hit them, and theyhad no time, They had no chance
to react to it. They barelysaw it coming. When they realized it
was coming, it was already toolate. Wow. And this is well.
I called that a defensive reaction,and it's not something you want to
provoke. It could have been worse. And so they're on the floor.
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They're paralyzed, right, it happened. Well, then they say that their
equipment was gone through all the functionson their equipment, all their cameras and
everything. It just rotated through allthe functions on their equipment. Uh.
And then there was a following aspectto it where they went home and then
it showed up there and they gotthat on video also. So so they're
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paralyzed, they're on the floor,they're trying to get up, they're trying
to sort their heads out, blahblah, get their stuff together. Then
they in a probably a state oflike unknown, get theirselves to the car,
probably not communicate with each other becauseyou you know, there's there's no
text but for it, probably notcommunicating getting into the car, and then
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it follows them home. Well,it's kind of like that. They had.
They had two assistants with them,and they were part a couple hundred
meters away from the water's edge.Where did they witness it. Yeah,
they could see those of the deadthe UAP, but only only two of
them were close enough to be affectedby it. But then the other two
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witnesses in the car are going tosee these guys coming towards them and knowing
that something's happened, right, Well, they did, they did. And
the whole point was that at somepoint later the security equipment on there,
on the recreational vehicle that they haveall this stuff in documented something approaching them
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while it was parked at their house. So this came later, you know,
a couple of days later. Whenthat happened. The the situation was,
I don't know, Like I said, there's three different ways you can
look at it. It was clearbecause when I asked them originally they said
because they had shown me that theresearch they'd been doing, they were trying
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to talk to me about something elseentirely that was related to AIAA work and
detection work. And they mentioned thatthey had been lasering uap orbs and I
asked, I said, and ithasn't pushed back because they do, And
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they paused for a menu and said, yeah, yeah, I did.
And then they got the video andshowed me the video of it. But
it was my pushing because they didn'tbring it up and it isn't in their
other data set. So so itwas clear that there was a mental health
issue there. There's a mental problemin there, and they hadn't processed or
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work on worked on it at all. And when when I was talking to
him about and the responses were completelyinappropriate for what they've been through. They
want to go back and do more, you know, and that's not really
you know, if you're a thinkingperson, you think that through before you
you know a lot of risk behavioraround it all. And I don't I'm
not treating these people. I'm nota mental health professional and not doing anything
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through the camera to treat them.I don't want to be in that position,
you know. But I was justtrying to figure out if they'd done,
if they were okay or not,and it was pretty clear they weren't.
And then the medical side of itis, you know, it's you
know, when your legs don't work, I mean, that's that's concerning.
And then and then the secondary symptomsof swollen lymph glands and stuff suggest perhaps
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a radiological exposure, which seems tobe a lot more common in UAP experiences
than people want to talk about.And I would imagine that I'm going to
say UFO experiences, not you.I'm sorry, just you know it.
Well, that was that was doctorHaynes and I you know, we we
we started pushing that term when wecame out with our first paper in nineteen
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ninety nine, and because nobody wasusing the term you know and doctor,
yeah, you did it, youstarted it, you bugger, I did.
I did. I'll take credit forthat. It was doctor Haynes and
I that that pushed it, youknow, as it is right now.
The adjective phrase unidentified aerial phenomena hasbeen used a lot, but the actual
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proper down with the capital letters andstuff, with the definition that was NARCAP.
And we came up with that becausewe could we couldn't use the UFO
term to talk to engineers and NASAunderground. So so that's that's where that
came from, the U a P. Term. But go ahead, when
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you saw the video footage of itcoming out from the water, what did
it did they did they drop thecamera? Do you do you see anything
else? No? No, no, they they're moving and then they're on
the ground exclaiming that they can't move, okay, and and you hear that.
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The whole thing was pretty disturbing forme, having been kind of in
that situation. I experienced that paralysis. It's not a good feeling. You
kind of connected to it when itwas happening. So when they're in the
car, so a couple of dayslater, they're back at home. What
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did they record then? Okay,so they had cameras for everyone right right,
So they had cameras facing in eachdirection off of their RV, so
left side, right side, front, and rear right, and so they're
on. The cameras are on.Just it's the neighborhood. It's dark nighttime.
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The street lights start going off,click, shutting off. Right,
So something bright, something bright iscoming in and triggering the light sensors on
the on the street lights. Andthen and then you see it. Everything
brightens up around the vehicle in theway that something bright lowering itself down on
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top of the vehicle would do,like the liking close encounters when when you
said, yeah, when you justsee the light come down, but you
don't see the object, and thenthe whole thing happens in reverse. There's
some static, there's some problems withthe camera recording, and then the light
retreats back up. Street lights comeback on. And so had they come
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were they coming back from somewhere?Were they going somewhere to do with,
you know, going out to lookfor some more UFOs? No? No,
they no, they just had itparked in their drive. They weren't
in there that's what they caught onthe recording, right, It was just
the middle of the night to them, that evening at all, not that
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they're aware of. But I didn'tdig in that deeply. One thing that
I'm not doing with this is investigations. I'm not here to validate what what
witness experiences. And that's kind ofthe process with psychology as well. You
treat the symptom, okay, youknow, and you don't question whether it
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happened. You treat the symptom.You know, You treat what's presenting it
in front of you. And thetrick is to recognize what that is.
That's what the skill set involves.So what timeframe was this? When did
this happen this year? Yeah?Within the last year, within August a
year ago August yeah, yeah.And there's other work being done by then.
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They have papers coming out and they'llbe coming out shortly, and some
of that I think is very goodwork. Okay, So what are you
doing? What's happening with the footage. It's going to be published where Okay,
So here's the deal with that.We have the interview with them with
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their footage and them describing that,and that'll come out in the next week.
I would suppose the most on theuap med channel on YouTube. At
that point, they may roll outtheir own footage. You know, they
might you know, step up ontheir own if they choose to, I
will make them available to you.I'll let them know, oh wow,
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can I get an exclusive with that? You might be able to. I
don't know, but you'll at leastprobably get a chance to talk to them.
I don't know how. I don'tknow how much they want to be
associated with this part of it,because they're really trying to move hard science
and they were all referred off oftalking about this in their paper. For
me, I did this show soI could talk with everybody and I could
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talk with other experiences. And youknow, Race and Margie gave me the
opportunity. I mean, Race saidit eight years ago. So don't know
if they're so stupid, but thisis this is my therapy. This is
you know, like you could earlier, you said a sentence that was just
so remarkable. I was like,oh my gosh, this isn't in a
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private conversation that we had, andI'm just thinking, you know, that's
what it's about. You know,when you can backwards and forth, and
if there's something that you can takefrom a conversation, I think, wow,
that is just you know, that'ssomething I really needed to hear,
or some you know that I've neverheard anyone say before, or something.
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So this is my therapy, whatI'm doing. It's good for my soul.
Yeah, and this is what I'mdoing for mine. Well yeah,
I know, right, But it'sthe same kind of thing. We're trying
to heal ourselves. We're trying toget right with the world in a way
that we got wrong with it atsome point that the stigma and the bias
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in our culture put us in abad position with our own race, with
our own people, you know.So I'm going to go back to the
footage because I've still got it inmy head. I've still got that,
you know. I said too whenI was interviewing presentent, I would love
to see a submerged sorry you shouldsay that, you'll be careful what you
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wish were But it's submerged object lightscoming from the because I haven't I haven't
seen that. I haven't experienced that. So military wise, they have,
so it would be really really interestinghow they handle this and how it will
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be exposed and maybe from this somethingwill come from, you know, exposed
at Congress that you know that wehave other footage, which they keep saying
that they will, you know,allow us at some point to see I'm
certain that they do have footage,and it's a matter of scaling down classification
so that we can see it.Yeah, and I think all of that's
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in the offing. They're under someunique pressures to do this and to make
it happen, and I think they'regoing to and I'm not sure the world's
ready for that. That's why Iput together u ap MED is there's a
lot to understanding this and not everybodywill be able to or want to,
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and we have to kind of lookout for our society, make sure that
the things that people depend upon,you know, that give them strength,
whether it's their religious pace, whetherit wherever they draw strengths from that.
That's shoring up and aware and talkingto them, you know, so that
that they're there. You know,you said about orbs. I just remembered,
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well, okay, we'll talk toyou another time. But in last
week's episode with Andrew, there wereorbs when we were talking. And then
when I spoke to Race after onemassive one came down past. It was
lovely. Listen, listen, Ted, I'm going to have you back on
as well. I think I'm goingto have all of my good friends back
on because we've all got so muchto say. So Ted Row, thank
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you very much. Please go touapmed dot org. Thank you Ted for
being my friend for so long,and thank you and well back next week.
I'm not sure who's going to beon next week. It's going to
be probably another exclusive, but i'lllet you guys know. So thank you,
Tedrow, Thank you ever so muchand for all your help that you
have done and are still doing.And I'm looking forward to speaking with one
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of your colleagues at some point.Thank you for being on no problem,
and thank you and it's really goodto see you again. And you know,
appreciate your friendship through the years.So regards and we'll talk soon.
All right, Okay, right,guys, thank you ever so much for
listening to the Naked Truth here onthe Unexed Radio Network. Thank you for
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Ted Row. And I can't waitto see that remarkable footage that's going to
come out. So it's the nextweek from me and I'm not sure who.
I've got quite a few. I'vegot a really good list of people,
so I don't know. It's inthe picking really, I'm not totally
sure right, Thank you guys.Good night from England. Thank you. No
Line. Welcome to The Naked Truthand now your Hostria Bridgid bar Clay.
Good evening, America and good morningin England. Welcome to the Unexed Radio.
And this is my show called TheNaked Truth and this is my podcast
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on the onexed Radio. Tonight's guestis a bit of an exclusive. It's
a friend that I've known for aboutwell over twenty years. Met at a
conference, a Grown Birdsall conference herein England, and his name is Tedrow.
And Tedrow has worked well. Hewas a co founder of our CAP,
which is a national aviation reporting centerof anonymous phenomena, and he stayed
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within the aerial phenomena. But nowhe is doing something very exclusive which will
be very well. It's it's recordbreaking and very it's it's in history,
really in the making. It's forpeople that have had experience of somewhere to
go medically. So without further adoagain, I'm going to introduce you to
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Ted Row and let him talk.We have a really massive exclusive at the
end of this which when he toldme, I was thought, oh wow.
And he's letting us know it beforeit goes to the press, which
is next week. I do believeTed. Are you there? He very
very welcome to England. Hello Alaska, right, yes, yes, slightly
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colder there than it is here,little bit, yeah, right car in
the morning, Oh yeah, yeah, I should imagine it's not just scraping
it off, it's just abandon thecar. I'm staying in, right,
Ted. I'd like you to introduceyourself, because only you can introduce yourself
the best that you can, Soplease introduce yourself. Well, sure,
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my name's Ted Rowe. I'm theco founder of the National Aviation Reporting Center
on an almost phenomena. I'm alsoa co founder and program designer for the
American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics UAPAviation Safety Program. Worked on a small
team to put that together. AndI'm the current founder and executive officer for
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UAP Medical Coalition, which is aprogram that's designed to inform mental health and
medical professionals about UAP and UAP exposuresto encourage research and improve patient care.
That's quite something. And also,you know, back when you were having
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your experiences are experiences everyone else's experiencesin the past. If something like this
was put into place, you knowthis is going to go. This is
this is making history really for everybodyeverywhere to go. Yeah. The whole
point is to get the mainstream mentalhealth and medical people, the first responders,
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and law enforcement up to speed onthe UAP matter, so that they
can actually help people with exposures ratherthan make it worse. Those of us
who've had exposures and don't consider thema good thing have not found much support
out there. We were all laughedat when I went to the doctors for
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radiation or to Panga Canyon for somethingelse personal. Yeah, so now hopefully
you know they're you know, andwe've all you know, we've all spoken
to people professionally and they've just lookedat us. So you know, now's
the time to make change. Ofchange is happening in Congress, within Congress,
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and you have worked within Congress,which I'd like to hear about it.
I mean, it is now isthe time for when everything changes,
Everything has to change, everything's gotto be put on the table. So
talk to me about your Congress.Well, let's just back it up,
just to hear. In twenty twentyone, when the Office of the Director
of National Intelligence released their report onUAP, along with the Reality of UAP
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has described they cited three primary concerns, national security, aviation safety, and
stigma. And I've been the onlygroup working on aviation safety issues with this
all along, and stigma has definedevery move I ever made in eupology.
I wouldn't be here if it wasn'tfor stigma, you know, because I'm
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doing the work. You're doing thework rather than you know, the professionals
that need to pay up the ballhere and help. And as we work
with the nuts and bolt side ofthings, So I'm working with aeronautical scientists
and engineers and trying to develop solidunderstandings about this. There is the other
side of the conversation, which isthat people who have exposures to UAP tend
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to not do well with them.And I've been exposed to them and it's
not been good for my life.So you know, this is kind of
the motivation behind all of this.The conversation is matured to a point where
we can start pushing on this becauseit isn't just licensing, and I think
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a lot of understand that. Soit's funny because I'm talking about pilot sizings
or passengers in airplanes. Andrew Goffwas one of my guests last week,
and his one of his sightings waswhen he was in an a plane and
he asked if the other guy hadseen it. He just witnessed. Well,
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if you go back, listen,he just witnessed. And I said
to him, he just witnessed hisobject flying past, and the other guy
didn't see. He wasn't sitting atthe window. And I said, do
you know what you know that,you know where you were going, you
know what flight you were on.Why don't you see if anyone else had
seen it, or speak to thepilots that had seen it, because that
would have been on rate. Andhe said, that's interesting. Yeah,
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So I think more and more peopleare seeing things well as they are,
but also maybe from planes as well. So I think, I think so.
I think we're getting more reports becausethe stigma's lifting, more people feel
they can speak, so we're hearingmore. We're hearing more from pilots.
For the longest time, we didn't. Yes, a lot of the work
I did with NARCAP was very muchunderground. Yeah, they didn't want to
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tell, but they wanted to speakto somebody, that's right. We everything
we did was confidential. Yeah,and then the government agreed with us,
and and uh, look at that. All of a sudden, my phone
started ringing, and I could kindof look out and look above ground and
see if there was a place forme, and apparently there was. And
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now now the situation's developing, andI say, take as much ground as
we can. You know, thesituation changes. Okay, that's where we
are now. But let's go back. When we met in two thousand and
one, a long time and along time ago, you spoke to me
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about you'd had your own encounters.And we're not just talking encounters. We're
talking remarkable close encounters of the thirdkind, fourth kind, fifth kind.
I could associate with you because theyfor me having a craft above my head.
So talk to me, because backthen you couldn't talk about any of
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your encounters. You had to keepit all very low key. Along you
know, friends, talk to meabout some of your encounters. Please.
Well, one that kind of parallelsyours happened to me in Oakland in nineteen
ninety nine. And I've talked aboutthis on in other venues, but it
was similar to yours, and thatit was a very close approach, and
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I had the attention of the devicewhatever and its occupants. In my case,
it was a cylinder, not adisc. Let's go back, you
said, occupants. Yes, yeah, it was transparent. You could see
into it, so you could seethe crew looking back at us and they
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You're in a car, weren't youat the time, right, Yeah,
we were on a eighty southbound inOakland on the freeway there in daylight as
well. Yeah. Yeah, itdoes happen in broad daylight, does it
does? And it'll happen when you'renot asleep and not having sleep terrors and
all the rest of it. Atfour o'clock, fire member, wasn't it.
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Yeah, it was a little afterfour. But back then, you
know, I didn't really know whatto do. I was very sick,
and it was very destabilizing. Ifelt very vulnerable and fragile. I didn't
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I didn't have a lot of composure. And when I finally one day,
I thought, geez, you know, somebody down at Ames Research Center knows
about this. They have an exobiologyunit. I wrote a little note to
the pr office at Ames, andnot long after, doctor Richard Haynes came
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back to me, who he wasthe first chief of the Space Human Factor's
office at Ames and a longtime UFOresearcher with an interest in aviation cases,
and so he interviewed the witnesses,the other two witnesses, myself, and
within a few months we were settingup in our cap and then we pulled
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together our team from there. Andthen I met you about a year later.
Oh gosh, so it was veryclose then, Oh right, yeah,
and so I'd been invited to speakat at Graham's conference there in Leeds,
and so it's kind of my firstpublic speaking. It was not a
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shining hour for this guy, butagain it was kind of an introduction.
I met John Mack and Blud Hopkinsand Nick and everybody who was anybody was
there pretty much, so I gotto learn quite a bit right away.
It was a good introduction to thefield, meeting the best of the past.
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Yeah, so that's just the oneencounter. Yeah, that's just one.
This has been going on since Iwas five years old, off and
on, and I could go adecade without anything happening, and then have
four or five things happen and thennothing for another stretch. You know.
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It's not like it happens every timeI go outside but it happens often enough,
often enough that I don't want togo outside. There are times when
I don't want to that I justit's too destabilizing. My whole world turns
upside down, and one of thosethings is out there. It scars me
for a long time. So andfor the other passengers in the car,
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Yeah, they recollect quite a lotof what happened. Oh yeah, yeah,
they all recall the same incident moreor less, with some variation that
you'd expect with people shock, yeah, being different in all. But it
ended up breaking my relationships with thosepeople, doesn't it. Yeah. Yeah,
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My girlfriend and I and then andthen our friend Ian and he went
first to stop talking. And youknow, nobody wants to be reminded of
being a victim, and nobody wantsto be around somebody that attracts this kind
of stuff, you know. Imean, some people feel like they would
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like to do that, but itis so damaging and toxic to relationships that
that, uh, and any responsibleperson that's having these experiences ought to think
twice about exposing other people to them. You know, I'm pretty careful about
it myself, and I'm not sayingthat everybody should live the way I do,
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but I'm really circumspect about involving otherpeople in this directly. So,
so there was missing time there aswell, wasn't there. Yeah, picked
up about a little over three hourson the freeway. Yeah, in the
space of about seventy seconds linear time. See, you know there's a lot
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of I haven't really, you know, even though I went to work with
Bud Hopkins and Dolores Cannon on theencounter. I mean, you know,
you're that's quite remarkable. It is. That is quite remarkable, isn't it
really? You know, because peoplejust think it happens late at night.
Yeah, out down the lane.No. Eight and a half million people
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in the Bay area in this thing. Sought us out in the late afternoon
because you saw it coming towards you, didn't you. Yeah, it intercepted
basically, we saw it. Itturned broadside to our direction of travel.
We just come off the Bay Bridgeinterchange and we're southbound on eight eighty and
there's a curve. So we makethe curve and as we're making the curb,
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this thing is coming down on anintercept and it stops so that it's
centered in our windscreen. As we'refacing it as we came around the curve
it was about a mile away,and knew what he was doing then.
Yeah, yeah, it was awareof us, aware of me. I
don't know how that is. Doyou think it's because of yourself, because
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of your experiences before beforehand? Yeah, it's a continuation of that, whatever
that is, whatever that process isabout. The other two had experiences as
well, one of them, oneof them had, the other one hadn't.
With me, no, and neitherof them had had anything that extensive.
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One of them had an ORB comeinto her room while her and her
mom were there when she was veryyoung and then but my friend had never
never been exposed to it, neverseen it as far as he knew.
See that. That's what I oftenthink about Jane, that was next to
me in the car that you know, she then went, you know,
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off the face of the planet thenext day. Well, actually I was
like you so dazed that afterwards thatI don't I just knew that I had
to get away and and she did, and then we couldn't track her down.
So you know, everyone goes ina different different path, which you
know, I always say it theamazing if she you know, comes forward
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I would absolutely love that, butyou know she's obviously traumatized by it as
well. Well, you can't blamethem, you know, these things are
you know, people say, gee, I wish I could see one.
You know, you don't want theattention of one of these things, you
know, when they're so close,When they're so close, and if if
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you communicate with them as well,you know, you don't know what's next.
It is like watching a paranormal film. You know, bad things can
happen. Yeah, oh yeah,yeah. Mike Cleveland wrote in his book
The Messenger about the Owl had anowl and a printer scanner episode and that
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was due to an object and anowl. And that was honestly, that
was quite hairy. That was reallyscary. That went with it. Okay,
right, so let's talk about theUAP Medical dot Org that you're doing.
I want to know intensively what itinvolves, where people can go,
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how much it's been set up firstlyfor people to go to, and what
type of therapies are there are peoplethat are they hypnotherapists, you know what?
Tell me a bit more please.Okay, So the program itself doesn't
actually minister two experiencers Okay, weminister to the people that treat experiencers.
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So we're providing information to the mentalhealth and medical professionals that have no grounding
in this at all and letting themknow that it's real, it exists,
and here are the scope of experiencesthat people have had. Bring your skill
set, do some research and helpus improve patient care for these people.
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So it's partly that, it's partlyworking with policy and advocating. Our military
and veterans who are exposed to thisneed support. So you're putting this in
place now due to what's happening atCongress. Yes, yeah, well this
is our mission. I've been We'resixteen months in on it. I've got
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a staff of thirty about we're doingall of the business development that goes along
with that, hunting down funding andthis kind of thing. What we're also
doing is providing position papers, informationand a lot of it about U A
P and UAP exposures. We havea forum that we manage so that that
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mental health and medical professionals can participatethrough an ALIAS and an avatar so they
don't have to risk their their theirprofessional credential on learning more about this and
depending on where you are in theworld. It can truly threaten your future
in your chosen location. So wedo that. We do outreach to key
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stakeholders, including legislative outreach, toinform legislators that we exist and that there
is an issue that involves people's healthand well being their constituents, including the
military and veterans, including pilots,which is a group I've been in service
to for the last two decades ormore specifically, But there are a number
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of subgroups that are underserved around thisidea of UAP exposure, and we're here
to advocate for them and to helpimprove that process all along. In every
way, there we saying that Congress, with the pilots that are gone forward,
that they are seeking medical help.In some cases I believe they are.
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It hasn't the conversation hasn't matured yetto that level of what insurers need
to be thinking about. But it'sgoing to For example, if you have
first responders, if you have lawenforcement, if you have ems. People
that come on seen and are exposedto UAP in a new environment where they're
allowed to speak about it, theymay need mental health or medical support,
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and who pays for that and howis that managed and what is the policy
around that? Do they they ifthey see one of the these things and
they reported, are they obligated togo get screened? Uh, this kind
of thing? And how about witnessesif they were in the process of doing
something to help people on the groundwho are claiming that exposure, how do
they manage that? So all ofthese conversations have to take place along with
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the Hey, it'd be a goodidea to take care of people here,
you know, but you need tounderstand. Okay, it's policy, it's
insurance, it's which is liability,basically, it's uh, it's information and
education. And then and then it'suh uh standing back and letting them engage,
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letting them do the work that theyknow how to do. Let the
psychologists and the medical scientists do whatthey know how to do and apply it
to this particular problem so we canget to the right place. You know,
for us, how far how faris everything? Is things being draft
up now for Congress? Then putthis forward? Well, yeah, I
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mean we're in a constant build withthe organization, and we're constantly in dialogue
with our legislative outreach process. Soit moves at the pace that it moves,
so when the conversation starts moving tophysiological and psychological issues, then we'll
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be there as a go to tooffer support, hopefully not the only ones.
There's a program that's getting underway therein England called UAP Consulting and one
of their groups is Unhidden dot organd I've worked a bit with these people
for the last few months and it'sbeen very satisfying to watch them put it
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together and they have. Okay,so I haven't heard of that, and
I'm sure lots of people haven't heardof that as well. So how long
has that been going over here oris that with the help of yourself as
well? Well? It's been goingon for five or six months that I'm
aware of. I've been sitting inon a couple of meetings and just you
know, trying to be supportive becauseit's a good idea and we kind of
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help each other out, you know, just in acknowledging each other right and
making connections. I'm trying to getsome of their mds in touch with some
of the m ds I pulled togetherin Australia and some of the US to
talk about it worldwide. Doesn't it, Yeah, it does in America.
You know, you can't go youcan't go around thinking you're the only one
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and that you want to be theonly one and there can only be one
winner and all of this. Whatyou need is a lot of people thinking
about this. You need a lotof groups doing this work. And the
work that I'm doing is specialized andlocalized in the United States. But UAP
Consulting is working, and Unhidden isworking in the UK, and UAP MED
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Australia is working in Australia. Andonce they get stood up, they don't
have to be UAP MED Australia.They can be wherever they want to be
helping them get going. Gosh,and we need more people thinking about this.
This idea of abduction phenomenon being whoneeds to be revisited. Along with
all these stories of lights and objectsin the sky, we have a parallel
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of other stories. Your story,my story, other stories, and it's
time we got some of the supportthat we need and that ASIE recognized as
the other side of the problem.The thing is it starts generally, well,
you can have the one off encounters, but generally when you're young,
right, so you know a youngchild there. Let's have a look at
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John Mack when he went to theschool yard he got the children to draw.
You know, it starts so young, and yeah, you know,
I still have the images in myhead of what happened to me when I
was younger, me too, exactly, So it is a true You're right,
it is a trauma, even thoughI feel that I'm okay, a
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lot of other people think are batshitcrazy, but you know, or he's
got tim for but you know,it is about and I wish, I
wish now, I wish now thatyou know, it is time for change.
And I'm so glad that I've stayedin it and you've in it.
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You've stayed in it, and alot of us have because you know,
obviously we still wouldn't be here ifyou weren't truthful to to to what's happened
to us. I know. Soit's yeah, it's overwhelming. And like
I said to you before, thereare a few people that I know that
would oh be gosh, they'd becrying on their knees knowing that something like
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this is around for people to havea voice too. Because I've heard a
lot of gratitude out there. Yeah, and I know that there is a
whole unserved segment of our population andit's a lot more people than you'd think.
Yeah, And it's really hard toget your mind around how that is
possible. Yes, Because like Isaid to you, and I've said it
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many times, every encounter is different. So just when you think that,
you think, all right, okay, and then you're right. You might
not have some for a couple ofyears, and then you might have quite
a few, and then you knowthere is no rhyme or reason for it,
and then boom, something else happensand it's completely different, and you
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just what I mean is it's achallenge. It's a challenge. And mostly
it's part of the reason I kindof come down the side that it's probably
not a good situation. And ifwe're if we're this much confused about it,
and but we know what's happening,probably not a good situation. Well,
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considering we've all got to get onwith our lives, work, bring
up families, you know. Yeah, I'm going to spend your life looking
over your shoulder all the time andwhat might be coming up to drive you
know in all of it? Yeah, yeah, I know you know.
That's the funny thing about it isis that I used to laugh about all
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this stuff even though I was livingit. I didn't realize, you know,
all of a sudden, and thenI sat up one day and I
remembered, Holy cow, I've beenway too close to these things, way
too many times. I have toomany of these stories, you know,
what is going on here? Andit didn't stop there. It kept going
on, and it involved all ofthose little sub teams, you know,
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the white pick up in the desertright with the security people in it.
I went through one of those withmy son, guys showing up that you
don't know who they are knocking onyour door. I've had any number of
kind of experiences around our cap,you know, just dealing with the public
in general. Who knows what comesout of all of that. But the
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one thing I've learned is that forevery story I get, there's got to
be dozens that I'm not getting right. And when it comes to the abduction
story, that's the same thing.And I don't know what all people experience
out there. I do know thatthat it seems to be variable, that
my story isn't necessarily the core story, you know, it's a basic story.
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It's it's kind of the consistent onethat's been told since the seventies.
But but it's not like a lotof the stories you hear today. Well
as because because of because of whywell, because well just the lights,
Well what what they report happening,you know, like like in my case,
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the occupant cases involved what look likegrays, you know, and what
are commonly referred to as grace.Other people tell other stories about other things,
and I have nothing to say aboutthat. So right, you know,
I'm going to hold you there.I've been talked by race. We've
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So Ted I was thinking on thecommercial break right listen, with all
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the encounters that all of us havehad in our lives, what would you
say was probably the most I don'twant to say meaningful, because I think
they all carry something. What isthe one that sticks out remarkably from your
mind? I know that you're sayingabout the freeway, but what else is
there that's happened to you? Well, you know, it's more about taking
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it as a whole. If youlook at all of the experiences together,
you know, they don't have meaninguntil you give them thought, until you
bring insight and objectivity to them andtry to understand them on their own,
which just that one counter right,right, you know, to not project
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your own biases or your own beliefson it, and to try to be
pure with what you learned and thenact on it accordingly. And that can
take a long time. But thatwas the journey I went through in a
lifetime of exposures. That's what itled me to, was training my awareness.
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I went through a lot of verydirect work with that, and those
who know me know a bit aboutthat. I did a lot of core
Buddhist training, which is really veryhelpful in engaging this and other issues in
your life. But it was allof these experiences together. None of them
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particularly had meaning when they happened otherthan they derailed me. They got my
attention. It knocked me off balance. Emotionally, I wasn't stable. Psychologically
I wasn't stable. But it wasthe thought I gave it afterwards and the
time, the attention that it neededto clearly comprehend it. And then once
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I got to that point, thenI could actually come to some understanding about
what was happening to me and whatwas happening to others and what might help.
So that's kind of what led todoing you ap me MED was just
training self awareness. None of theseexperiences had any purpose that I know other
than that only that which is knownto those who were doing it, you
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know it. I had no ideawhat it was about. They did.
They knew what they were doing andwhy they're doing it, but they weren't
telling me. And so, youknow, the you can project anything you
want on it, but what youcan't do is stop it, you know.
So here you are with these recurringexperiences that are invasive. They're invasive
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psychologically as well as physically as wellas you know, just in your home
space. You don't have a spaceto be It's safe, you know,
and you can project anything you wanton it. You could say you were
touched by the hand of God,you know, and it was the greatest
thing that ever happened to you,and the star people love you and all
this other stuff. It won't changeanything. And you can turn it around
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and look at it the other wayand that won't change anything either. But
there's the realism of it right there. You don't know, and you should
know if something's taking liberties with youto this degree, you should know why
this is happening, you know,and you don't. So getting getting yourself
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clear and dumping bias and baggage soyou can have an objective look at what
you've been through is probably the firststep, and that will change your life
in so many ways beyond just thissubject. Your awareness comes up and suddenly
things that you didn't notice before you'renoticing very early. You know, you're
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seeing personality quirks, you're seeing activityin your environment. You're aware of things
more. You're aware that you're beingemotional about things. You notice your own
interstate and that it's not consistent andwhen it varies, you notice that it's
that's happening, you know. So, uh, that's part of the benefit
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of all raising your awareness an objective. I think. You know, when
you've had let's say, let's sayyou have an encounter the savening, right,
it's those it's not just afterwards,it's those that those period of days
afterwards. And I'm saying that fromlike you, when you've had quite a
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few encounters, so it's not likeyou're having it for the first time and
you think, wow, you knowor whatever, or however the situation,
because it might not be a goodsituation, right, but you know,
it's that. It is that you'reyou're right, It's that me hanging onto
the car after I'd had my encounter, you know, just hanging on,
didn't want to look around, didn'twant to look at anything, just had
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to look on the floor, didn'twant to look up, didn't want to
look around. I felt drunk,you know, all of those situations.
It's it's the after effect, isn'tit. It's the it is the after
effect, and yeah, it is. Yeah, you have to cope with
the incident itself in the context thatit presents in, which is one that
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society does not support. You're alone. You are alone even talk to people
about it either, even though Ihadn't encounters like I said that the guy
that I was living with, Billy, I'd had a UFO account with here
in England with him, and youknow, and I'll always say, he's
the first person. He wouldn't believewhat happened to me, and I couldn't
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say anything, you know, soand then you just sort of like literally
just shut down, don't you.And I didn't even think about looking for
physical effects or anything like that becauseI wouldn't have known to. And like
I said, you you know,not that long ago about when that happened
last year that had a triangle onme and stuff, so you know,
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and I'd only know that because Iwas like, oh wow, you know,
and then you put pieces together,okay, right, So Race will
put it all up on the onthe bottom. It's in the bio in
regards to going to the UAP Medicaluap med dot org to find out and
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it's on YouTube because I went ontoYouTube as well, and I think I
put a link on my bio forit as well for people to go and
it is actually, you know,really I didn't know it existed. I
mean I did know it existed byyou, but when I went onto the
YouTube, it's like, oh,hang on a minute, I've got some
hours to watch here, and obviouslymore hours. Right, I'd recommend taking
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a look at the anomalous Health incidentvideo that we put together there, which
kind of goes along with the government'skind of screening people that might have been
exposed to something unusual. They sayit's for Havana syndrome, but they kind
of quit talking about that. Itsays what sorry, they say it involves
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havana syndrome? What's that it was? At one time it was believed that
some of our embassy personnel were beingattacked by unconventional weapons adversaries. And uh,
I think they've changed their tune alittle bit on that now, but
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it was coming from somewhere else.Yeah, and there's there's a syndrome they
can identify that that that they seea trend in people who are exposed to
it. So we will take alook at that video. Hi, It's
kind of shows you what they're suspectingthat people are when they get close to
U A p are getting injured.Uh, there's there's traumatic brain injury involved,
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and it may may have to dowith with aspects of the environment when
u apre present emanations coming off thedevices or something else. Well, I
think this leads very nicely into theexclusive. It does. I see how
you did that, right? Okay, we have an exclusive from Ted right
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he told me earlier, I liketo said, really, oh my god,
and I visioned it in my headand I just thought, oh wow,
amazing. I am just going tolet you start from the beginning,
and this is going to go tothe news next week. Is this correct?
Yeah? Most likely, Yeah,yeah, we should be rolling out
with it in the next week orso. Basically, what happened was I
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was approached by a couple of fieldresearchers UAP field researchers who had who claimed
to have been assaulted by UAP andhad documented it on infrared cameras and it's
pretty good, pretty good footage.We let them tell the story what happened
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and how it happened, and thenalong with the video of it happening,
and then we're going to do asecond video with our experts at UAP MED,
our mental health and medical and lawenforcement, first responder tactical people and
just kind of go over some ofthe implications that arise from this. Uh,
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some of the things that are interestingabout this or the UAP or not
visible to the naked eye. Theycould only be seen in the infrared.
Okay, start from the beginning.Start from the beginning situation talk a strip.
Well, okay, so they're there. They pull up out on the
beach to set up for a nightwatch watching the researchers that I was speaking
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of, and they the first thingthey do is they get out and they
scan the horizon with infrared cameras becauseoftentimes u AP are not visible to the
naked eye, so what night visionjust night vision goggles and probably better grade
than that. They have pretty goodequipment, and immediately they see a triangular
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formation of lights just offshore, notfar whereabouts this which state east east coast.
That's as far as I'll go atthis point. Yeah, they pull
out a infrared emitter, which islike a laser, only it immense infrared
light, and they poke it.They come and get me. Yeah,
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we rattled it a couple of times. Nothing happened. Uh. They were
remarking about how they couldn't see itwith their normal camera, but they could
see it through the night vision andjust just basic stuff, you know,
chatter that you would think. Andthen and then they did it again,
only a little more deliberately. Theypainted this thing with the infrared light and
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it deployed a ball of light thatwas only visible to their infrared camera,
and it came under the water towardsthem and I'm going to slow down.
It came underneath the water towards them. Okay, yeah, and they it
was an infrared light source right thatthey could see. And this is a
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well known area as well where thishappens, well and enough known yet I
wouldn't call it private land. Butthey started to they started to turn and
run when it came out of thewater and it expressed into a long,
horizontal band of light and struck themand they were paralyzed. They fell down,
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legs didn't work. They had secondarysymptoms that showed up later of swollen
lymph glands and some other things thatwere troubling. And it basically just kind
of showed to me. It showeda number of things tactical issues. Don't
don't do that, don't don't shineyour flashlight on them, don't point a
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laser out not using a wage aboardfor a spirit, right, Yeah,
probably not a good idea. Yeah, if any horror movie that's ever been
written is right, then probably nota good idea. We do use the
things, and you know that thelights sources or if you see something,
you can communicate with it. Youknow, I've often said this about e
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seti Ranch. I saw lights,and you communicate with it. And I
said what it was going to do, and it did. So, you
know, there's lots of other ways. But to see it coming towards you
underneath the water, you're you know, I can picture it now. You
were just like, see this,did the water raise up? No?
No? And it came underneath Yeah, And it came right into the surf
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before it hit them, and theyhad no time, They had no chance
to react to it. They barelysaw it coming. When they realized it
was coming, it was already toolate. Wow. And this is well.
I called that a defensive reaction,and it's not something you want to
provoke. It could have been worse. And so they're on the floor.
(45:51):
They're paralyzed, right, it happened. Well, then they say that their
equipment was gone through all the functionson their equipment, all their cameras and
everything. It just rotated through allthe functions on their equipment. Uh.
And then there was a following aspectto it where they went home and then
it showed up there and they gotthat on video also. So so they're
(46:15):
paralyzed, they're on the floor,they're trying to get up, they're trying
to sort their heads out, blahblah, get their stuff together. Then
they in a probably a state oflike unknown, get theirselves to the car,
probably not communicate with each other becauseyou you know, there's there's no
text but for it, probably notcommunicating getting into the car, and then
(46:36):
it follows them home. Well,it's kind of like that. They had.
They had two assistants with them,and they were part a couple hundred
meters away from the water's edge.Where did they witness it. Yeah,
they could see those of the deadthe UAP, but only only two of
them were close enough to be affectedby it. But then the other two
(46:58):
witnesses in the car are going tosee these guys coming towards them and knowing
that something's happened, right, Well, they did, they did. And
the whole point was that at somepoint later the security equipment on there,
on the recreational vehicle that they haveall this stuff in documented something approaching them
(47:19):
while it was parked at their house. So this came later, you know,
a couple of days later. Whenthat happened. The the situation was,
I don't know, Like I said, there's three different ways you can
look at it. It was clearbecause when I asked them originally they said
because they had shown me that theresearch they'd been doing, they were trying
(47:44):
to talk to me about something elseentirely that was related to AIAA work and
detection work. And they mentioned thatthey had been lasering uap orbs and I
asked, I said, and ithasn't pushed back because they do, And
(48:04):
they paused for a menu and said, yeah, yeah, I did.
And then they got the video andshowed me the video of it. But
it was my pushing because they didn'tbring it up and it isn't in their
other data set. So so itwas clear that there was a mental health
issue there. There's a mental problemin there, and they hadn't processed or
(48:27):
work on worked on it at all. And when when I was talking to
him about and the responses were completelyinappropriate for what they've been through. They
want to go back and do more, you know, and that's not really
you know, if you're a thinkingperson, you think that through before you
you know a lot of risk behavioraround it all. And I don't I'm
not treating these people. I'm nota mental health professional and not doing anything
(48:49):
through the camera to treat them.I don't want to be in that position,
you know. But I was justtrying to figure out if they'd done,
if they were okay or not,and it was pretty clear they weren't.
And then the medical side of itis, you know, it's you
know, when your legs don't work, I mean, that's that's concerning.
And then and then the secondary symptomsof swollen lymph glands and stuff suggest perhaps
(49:14):
a radiological exposure, which seems tobe a lot more common in UAP experiences
than people want to talk about.And I would imagine that I'm going to
say UFO experiences, not you.I'm sorry, just you know it.
Well, that was that was doctorHaynes and I you know, we we
we started pushing that term when wecame out with our first paper in nineteen
(49:38):
ninety nine, and because nobody wasusing the term you know and doctor,
yeah, you did it, youstarted it, you bugger, I did.
I did. I'll take credit forthat. It was doctor Haynes and
I that that pushed it, youknow, as it is right now.
The adjective phrase unidentified aerial phenomena hasbeen used a lot, but the actual
(49:59):
proper down with the capital letters andstuff, with the definition that was NARCAP.
And we came up with that becausewe could we couldn't use the UFO
term to talk to engineers and NASAunderground. So so that's that's where that
came from, the U a P. Term. But go ahead, when
(50:21):
you saw the video footage of itcoming out from the water, what did
it did they did they drop thecamera? Do you do you see anything
else? No? No, no, they they're moving and then they're on
the ground exclaiming that they can't move, okay, and and you hear that.
(50:43):
The whole thing was pretty disturbing forme, having been kind of in
that situation. I experienced that paralysis. It's not a good feeling. You
kind of connected to it when itwas happening. So when they're in the
car, so a couple of dayslater, they're back at home. What
(51:06):
did they record then? Okay,so they had cameras for everyone right right,
So they had cameras facing in eachdirection off of their RV, so
left side, right side, front, and rear right, and so they're
on. The cameras are on.Just it's the neighborhood. It's dark nighttime.
(51:28):
The street lights start going off,click, shutting off. Right,
So something bright, something bright iscoming in and triggering the light sensors on
the on the street lights. Andthen and then you see it. Everything
brightens up around the vehicle in theway that something bright lowering itself down on
(51:50):
top of the vehicle would do,like the liking close encounters when when you
said, yeah, when you justsee the light come down, but you
don't see the object, and thenthe whole thing happens in reverse. There's
some static, there's some problems withthe camera recording, and then the light
retreats back up. Street lights comeback on. And so had they come
(52:15):
were they coming back from somewhere?Were they going somewhere to do with,
you know, going out to lookfor some more UFOs? No? No,
they no, they just had itparked in their drive. They weren't
in there that's what they caught onthe recording, right, It was just
the middle of the night to them, that evening at all, not that
(52:37):
they're aware of. But I didn'tdig in that deeply. One thing that
I'm not doing with this is investigations. I'm not here to validate what what
witness experiences. And that's kind ofthe process with psychology as well. You
treat the symptom, okay, youknow, and you don't question whether it
(53:00):
happened. You treat the symptom.You know, You treat what's presenting it
in front of you. And thetrick is to recognize what that is.
That's what the skill set involves.So what timeframe was this? When did
this happen this year? Yeah?Within the last year, within August a
year ago August yeah, yeah.And there's other work being done by then.
(53:23):
They have papers coming out and they'llbe coming out shortly, and some
of that I think is very goodwork. Okay, So what are you
doing? What's happening with the footage. It's going to be published where Okay,
So here's the deal with that.We have the interview with them with
(53:44):
their footage and them describing that,and that'll come out in the next week.
I would suppose the most on theuap med channel on YouTube. At
that point, they may roll outtheir own footage. You know, they
might you know, step up ontheir own if they choose to, I
will make them available to you.I'll let them know, oh wow,
(54:07):
can I get an exclusive with that? You might be able to. I
don't know, but you'll at leastprobably get a chance to talk to them.
I don't know how. I don'tknow how much they want to be
associated with this part of it,because they're really trying to move hard science
and they were all referred off oftalking about this in their paper. For
me, I did this show soI could talk with everybody and I could
(54:30):
talk with other experiences. And youknow, Race and Margie gave me the
opportunity. I mean, Race saidit eight years ago. So don't know
if they're so stupid, but thisis this is my therapy. This is
you know, like you could earlier, you said a sentence that was just
so remarkable. I was like,oh my gosh, this isn't in a
(54:53):
private conversation that we had, andI'm just thinking, you know, that's
what it's about. You know,when you can backwards and forth, and
if there's something that you can takefrom a conversation, I think, wow,
that is just you know, that'ssomething I really needed to hear,
or some you know that I've neverheard anyone say before, or something.
(55:15):
So this is my therapy, whatI'm doing. It's good for my soul.
Yeah, and this is what I'mdoing for mine. Well yeah,
I know, right, But it'sthe same kind of thing. We're trying
to heal ourselves. We're trying toget right with the world in a way
that we got wrong with it atsome point that the stigma and the bias
(55:35):
in our culture put us in abad position with our own race, with
our own people, you know.So I'm going to go back to the
footage because I've still got it inmy head. I've still got that,
you know. I said too whenI was interviewing presentent, I would love
to see a submerged sorry you shouldsay that, you'll be careful what you
(55:57):
wish were But it's submerged object lightscoming from the because I haven't I haven't
seen that. I haven't experienced that. So military wise, they have,
so it would be really really interestinghow they handle this and how it will
(56:20):
be exposed and maybe from this somethingwill come from, you know, exposed
at Congress that you know that wehave other footage, which they keep saying
that they will, you know,allow us at some point to see I'm
certain that they do have footage,and it's a matter of scaling down classification
so that we can see it.Yeah, and I think all of that's
(56:43):
in the offing. They're under someunique pressures to do this and to make
it happen, and I think they'regoing to and I'm not sure the world's
ready for that. That's why Iput together u ap MED is there's a
lot to understanding this and not everybodywill be able to or want to,
(57:05):
and we have to kind of lookout for our society, make sure that
the things that people depend upon,you know, that give them strength,
whether it's their religious pace, whetherit wherever they draw strengths from that.
That's shoring up and aware and talkingto them, you know, so that
that they're there. You know,you said about orbs. I just remembered,
(57:28):
well, okay, we'll talk toyou another time. But in last
week's episode with Andrew, there wereorbs when we were talking. And then
when I spoke to Race after onemassive one came down past. It was
lovely. Listen, listen, Ted, I'm going to have you back on
as well. I think I'm goingto have all of my good friends back
on because we've all got so muchto say. So Ted Row, thank
(57:52):
you very much. Please go touapmed dot org. Thank you Ted for
being my friend for so long,and thank you and well back next week.
I'm not sure who's going to beon next week. It's going to
be probably another exclusive, but i'lllet you guys know. So thank you,
Tedrow, Thank you ever so muchand for all your help that you
have done and are still doing.And I'm looking forward to speaking with one
(58:15):
of your colleagues at some point.Thank you for being on no problem,
and thank you and it's really goodto see you again. And you know,
appreciate your friendship through the years.So regards and we'll talk soon.
All right, Okay, right,guys, thank you ever so much for
listening to the Naked Truth here onthe Unexed Radio Network. Thank you for
(58:40):
Ted Row. And I can't waitto see that remarkable footage that's going to
come out. So it's the nextweek from me and I'm not sure who.
I've got quite a few. I'vegot a really good list of people,
so I don't know. It's inthe picking really, I'm not totally
sure right, Thank you guys.Good night from England. Thank you. No
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