January 20, 2026 • 52 mins
On the Jan. 20, 2026, edition of the PodKaz from USCHO.com, hosts Nicole Haase and Todd Milewski reflect upon this year’s IIHF Under-18 Women’s World Championship in Nova Scotia, where Nicole saw the U.S. defeat Canada for the gold medal.
Nicole shares what it was like in the building for the 2-0 victory Sunday and takes us behind the scenes. We also talked about Finland, which will miss out on next year’s event after being relegated.
Our look back at last week in NCAA hockey includes a mention of Yale goalie Samson Frey, who, entering Monday’s game against Providence, was 8-0 with four shutouts, a 0.65 goals-against average and a .971 save percentage
No. 3 Minnesota’s Abbey Murphy is pulling away from the pack in both goals (33) and points (58) after another big weekend. Joy Dunne also had a four-goal game for No. 2 Ohio State.
And we look ahead to Tuesday night’s Beanpot final between Boston University and Harvard, plus the rest of this week’s NCAA women’s hockey schedule.
The PodKaz is a production of USCHO.com. Have a question for us? Reach out to Nicole (@NicoleHaase) or Todd (@ToddMilewski) on social media or email todd.milewski@uscho.com.
Nicole shares what it was like in the building for the 2-0 victory Sunday and takes us behind the scenes. We also talked about Finland, which will miss out on next year’s event after being relegated.
Our look back at last week in NCAA hockey includes a mention of Yale goalie Samson Frey, who, entering Monday’s game against Providence, was 8-0 with four shutouts, a 0.65 goals-against average and a .971 save percentage
No. 3 Minnesota’s Abbey Murphy is pulling away from the pack in both goals (33) and points (58) after another big weekend. Joy Dunne also had a four-goal game for No. 2 Ohio State.
And we look ahead to Tuesday night’s Beanpot final between Boston University and Harvard, plus the rest of this week’s NCAA women’s hockey schedule.
The PodKaz is a production of USCHO.com. Have a question for us? Reach out to Nicole (@NicoleHaase) or Todd (@ToddMilewski) on social media or email todd.milewski@uscho.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Usccho dot com. Hi, welcome to the podcast. I'm Todd
Lusky here with a weary Nicole Hasey from Nova Scotia,
where she has covered twenty one games of the Under
eighteen Women's World Championship in the span of nine days,
seven of them playing days. And uh, Nicole, I'm sure
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you're kind of tired at this point after being at
rinks for eighteen hour days.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Some of them preemptively apologize for all the yond.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
The ons as you've mis se me ons. Yeah, US
comes away with the gold again with a two nothing
victory over Canada on Sunday night. Let's start there, Nicole.
Is that a just continuation of the US yes year
of good feelings or a year plus of good feelings
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around USA hockey? What what do you make of it? Well?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I see like that for the most part it was
a toss up between them and Canada. I think they
were well matched. I felt like the US sort of
handled I mean, this was maybe one of the poor
it was. It was not a great tournament. Neither of
those two teams are really challenged for more than a
period or two until they got to the gold medal
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v and that's that's hard to then completely up the
intensity and be the team you need to be to
be your big rival. But I think the US just
sort of handled that a little better. There's probably an
interesting side we could go off at some point. I
always feel like happy Canada can get very stuck in
their ways, particularly I think at this age when they're
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very much trying to teach them to like follow your
system and make your habits. I mean, that's a thing
I felt about the senior team, and then that like
really compounds down here and I did feel a little
bit that like, sometimes you just need to like your
players cook. And I know that can be really weird
to say at seventeen, but I felt like, like, for example,
the US's first goal was base set play that the
(02:10):
two players chose to try themselves off a face off,
and I don't think anybody at Canada does allowed to
make that decision any do player. So I just think
it's a different approach. You know, it's been Certainly, there's
nothing you can take away Canada does one a couple
of olds at this level. They're obviously been doing pretty
well at the senior level, have all the Olympic holds,
so it's hard to criticize some of it, but I
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do think that there was a system set up. The
games didn't necessarily provide a whole lot of competition, and
then when it came time to sort of execute that play,
and I'm not sure the players were in the best
position to do it, but it was one of those games.
I compared it like an old Wisconsin Minnesota game or
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now maybe in Wisconsin Ohio state. Like it was just
sloppy and chippy and messy in the best possible way.
Nobody helped position possession for a while, right, it was
just back and forth and you know, lots of slapper
at the pucks and whoever comes away with it is
going to get a chance. And but when you're you're
so set in your system and then never get set
off in your offensive zone. I think that left some
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their players not quite sure what to do, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And yeah, referees let them play, which it really did.
We got to be taken to let them play, meaning
you can get away with a lot, and we've seen
that happen in college to we even that, you know,
in some of the biggest games of the season. It's
just like referees have decided unless it's blatant, we don't
want to play a role in this. So you know,
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figure it out. How did How did you feel like
that maybe played into the just kind of the flow
of that game. How it how it? Uh? You know,
it continued to you know, nobody got the power plays.
There's very few power play chances to try and change
momentum or do any of those kinds of things. So
it really just felt like a let's let's let you
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guys decide it out here.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I mean that bit was nice, right, and I don't
feel like it got out of hand at any point,
and so I feel like that is that an AIDS thing?
I don't know, But there were a couple of times.
It's so interesting too, because you're in a position like
people out here in Cape Brighton, like they don't watch
a Tunnel Women talkie. They definitely don't watch it at
this level. So there were times that the crowd really
wanted a penalty and I was like, yeah, I don't.
I that is getting called a whole lot of places,
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but I was, you know, I was sitting next to
the reporter from the local newspaper and he was like, yeah,
this is more physical than I thought. He's like everybody
told me it would be. He's like, but this is
even more than I thought. But you know, there would
be a lot of shoulder to shoulder and there was
a lot of sorts smush people up against class and
they're just kind of never gonna call that, you know.
So it was nice to keep the flow of the game.
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I mean I say that there was no flow to
that game. The game was was, like I said, a
hot mess, complimentary, best possible way, but nobody was doing
what they thought they wanted to be able to do.
So it was kind of who dealt with that the best.
And I think one of the big things that the
US did was was very well in transition, so the
way that they sort of turned a turno because again
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nobody's like there's turnovers and the PEPs hopping and if
you if there's a chance like the US has had
in the other direction. And one of the things that
I think Canada sometimes struggled with and in coach Piki's
Sanahara talked about early on, was they were really trying
to put the idea in their head of defense first
that like it's fine to get involved on the offense,
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but like defense turns into offense, and if you cheat
too far forward like that, you can get away with
that against you know, Hungary or Citzerlin, but you can't
get away with that against some other teams. Chuck, you
would also have been a team that would have given
them problems with some of that. And so I thought
the US took advantage of their breaks when they had them.
And also Bianca, I think it's beer TIERI played a
(05:51):
spectacular game and that she just was absolutely outstanding and
coming into this see this tournament, I would have thought
we're gonna stick me, was gonna play every game. She
kind of did last tournament and had a long shutout
screak and they split time early. But it's britty tier
I always want to do. It's not b R I,
it's b I R Bird Tiery was the goalie that
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got the winds in the summer series. So essentially it
is the only goalie that has to beat Canada in
several years at this age level. And so nobsa happy
would want to say it. They were, They were very diplomatic,
go to all our bullies, but I think the decision
was to go with her all along and it was
a very good one.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, how about the environment in that building? Obviously a
pro Canada crowd, but a good pocket of American family
and friends. And it did seem like the Canadian fans
were trying to will their team for a lot of
that game, and it there was one gentleman in the
front row and you kept seeing banging on the glass
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throughout the night. To talk a little bit about that,
you know, part of just that the evening of how
the atmosphere was compared to other events like this you've seen,
which you know, I mean, I remember was it in
Chechia that there was a I don't know if it
was that U eighteen or Women's Worlds, but that was
(07:16):
seniors but yeah, that was seniors. But it was just
like this was a massive crowd that was just incredibly
like influential in getting their team involved and keeping them
going at some points.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yes. Side note is the first application for U eighteens
for next year came from Czechia. So I'm very hopeful
that that's where we're going next year because I agree
that problem was amazing and they the IHF and and
Chechia did a great job. They like created a beer
good note side and kept people around and like made
it an event, which is just a thing that we
don't see a ton on the U eighteen side. So
fingers crossed. But yes, it was over five thousand people,
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which I think has to be by far the I
was just crowd. I've seen it at U eighteen when Sweden,
when we were in Sweden, Sweden made the gold Metal game,
and so they did fill that barn, but it wasn't
as big and unfortunately and that like immediately the US
took over and so that crowd was lowed for a while.
But then and I would say Canada's crowd last night
(08:13):
was so nice, so loud, so so far they were
willing them. I wanted them to get a goal just
for that crowd. People have been so nice and so
wonderful and have come to games. I mean there have been,
you know, some of them sparsely attended. Particularly we moved
from a rank to ad like I think about twelve
hundred seats to this bigger barn starting at quarterfinals, and
(08:33):
they you know, they filled it for the first quarter
final with kids and just have done a really good
job about getting people there, and a ton of people
in Canada to gear were there for the Browns medal game,
so that was nice. I will see to several Most
of the crowds stayed around for the whole postgame ceremony
and we're like applauding the Americans and cheering for the
girls that were named to like the All Star team
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and things like that. So the crowd was just really
cool and nice, and I thought it was pretty awesome
that everybody got to play in that atmosphere and it
was fun. The Americans basically said like, yeah, we we
liked getting we love playing in that environment. We liked
getting to make them a little quiet. And so because
I'm petty, I appreciated that about of petty, Like the
(09:17):
girls are like, yeah, that was awesome. You know, it's
the biggest probably played in front of it. Also, it
was nice to shut it down. So no, it was
it was spectacular. It was essentially a sellout. I think
that's they were thinking. That was the most people that
ever watched hockey in that barn. There's a queue. I
don't remember all the initials, but the queue. The Quebec's
league plays there, and they said they do get decent crowds,
(09:38):
but not usually quite that big, So it was fun.
They had signs and flags and just the atmosphere was spectacular.
So that was amazing. And they never gave up on that,
you know, because honestly that that game could have turned
at any moment, and so it was allowed for sixty minutes,
which was amazing. And any girl from the Atlantic region
(09:59):
got massive, so like even if you're from Pei, if
you're from anywhere near ear, those girls got massive cheers.
Which was.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
The US and Canada playing for the gold medal. Not
a surprise Finland ending up in the relegation game. A surprise.
Finland losing the relegation game and going down a division
next season a massive shock. What can you say about that?
That whole situation of how they got there and then
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not being able to you know, win that game to
stay up. It just feels like for a country that's
been you know, close to that, you know, in metal
games kind of environment, that's that's a big drop.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I will say, if you told me, you know, ten
days ago, that that's where we'd be, I would be surprised.
After watching Finland play in their first game, not super surprised.
And then afterwards when you're talking to the coach and
the players, and they kind of don't have any idea
to say about what went wrong, and that kind of
happened over and over again. It's like, well, they're prepared,
(11:06):
but they're just they're scared or we don't know what happened.
And so there was a lot of non answers, which
was i mean, a just frustrating from a journalistic standpoint,
but also like and again it could be it's like
they could have been saying different things in their non
English interviews, right, I mean, their Finnish interviews, But yeah,
it's they just looked it looked like they were standing
still a kind of at all times. I mean, and
(11:28):
even other coaches were saying like, well, we prepared, we
watched tape, but we just saw that they weren't moving
their feet at all, so we just knew we could
skate around them. So yeah, having watched them throughout the tournament,
that they were relegated is not at all of surprise.
But from that that larger talking point, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Hope.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
My concern is that, I mean, clearly they're not developing
the way that they can and should be. We know
that just generally women talking is not get enough attention
from the federations. You know, it's all it's all a hierarchy, right,
Like there are countries that would love to get the
attention Finland gives, but Finland would love to get what
the US and you know, Checkia now, and so it's
(12:08):
it is a hierarchy. But they they have a team
in their league, like the it's what is it, the
Aurora Liga. They created like fundamentally a development team like
the US development team that plays. It's called Team Quotare
and it's like essentially a high school for their hockey girls.
And so they did that a few years back, and
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this is where we're at a few years into that experiment.
So that's bad. And so yeah, I guess my concern
is that this is like, well, it depends on what
the response is. Is the response like this is a
national embarrassment and we have to fix it, or is
this response this isn't a national embarrassment and we're never
giving you money again and figure it out, you know,
(12:49):
and so like it it sort of depends on and
what that response looks like now to decide how this
is going to go down. I think and hope that
that you know, there I know that they're embarrassed and
I know that this is really concerning and so yeah,
but you know, this isn't a super huge shock. Haven't
watched them the last few years, like they weren't getting better,
(13:12):
they weren't improving, and so hopefully this makes some people
that come pay attention. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, that's the the big question going forward is that
is this just a shrug of the shoulders, like, eh,
do we does anyone care enough to to make it
mean something that that's where we're going to look over
the next couple of years, because I mean, let's be honest,
they're gonna, i mean, unless something crazy happens, they're gonna
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be back up for the twenty twenty eight main event
back in Canada, So which also feels like it's a
million years away just from talking about that now. But yeah,
it's you've lost now really two years of your your
(14:03):
age group of having that team competing for anything.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So yeah, and it makes me wonder like all the
non like non IAGEFF competitions, like they play in various
different things, like will they be invited to some of
that stuff? Will other teams be scheduling those?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So not only do they lose that competition of the
one you know, ten day I JEF tournament, but also
what happens in between, which clearly wasn't preparing them enough
as it was.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
But yeah, right, I mean, there has to be a
team going down every year. But I don't think any
of us thought it was unly Finland going in.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So no, But like the flip side of that is
a way to go Hungry Hungary who had not been
at the top for I believe it's never it's twelve
or fourteen years.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
It's a lot of years, and it's been a long
time that a team that just came up stayed up.
So they played with the of heart.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
They scored one goal the whole tournament before the relegation game,
and then scored seven. And I went through the IHF
record book and I could not find a women's team
from Hungary that had scored seven goals, so I don't, Yeah,
they had. Their one goal was to get Switzerland in
which was like sort of the pre relegation. The loser
in that game was going to go to the relegation,
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so that was like the pre relegation relegation, and they
scored one goal in that game, and that was it.
So yeah, just upon of heart. It was even just
the approach, like the way that they would come out
after a game where they lost a bunch, they were
ready to talk about what they had learned and how
it was going to help them. And I felt like
there was something to being sort of the humble, like
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we're new here and whatever happens happened, whereas it felt
like everything from Finland was like a gut punch that
they didn't know how to react to. And so maybe
just that that attitude of it, like you could see
that hungry learned things in some of those games they
got blown out and then used that in that relegation game,
and maybe that approach alone was was the difference.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Right, last thing I want to get to before we
take a break and then get into uh NCAA results
from last week. You've been to five of these now,
is that right? Sixth? Something like that? Five? What are
you going to remember about this one in terms of
the behind the scenes so things that you know, we
a lot of us watch these games and saw the
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TV production. What what are you going to remember of
what you saw, what you experienced, you know, in those buildings?
Two you know, to make this experience stand out.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
One thing that I thought was very cool and that
I think is more prevalent here in Canada than at home,
was that like that first stadium was on Native I'm sorry,
they use First Nations land or Indigenous land, and like
we so everything in Canada is usually in English and
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in French, and like a good percentage of the so
like every goal announcement, every roster, all of that stuff.
But we had a couple of games where it was
in English and the local UH First Nations language. They
had the player of the tournament got a beaded flower,
which is the flower of Nova Scotia, but with beaded
by First Nations. There was just a very cool inter
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weaving of that into the whole experience, from being in
that first UH arena to at this separate arena, like
they made specific Hockey Canada jerseys using iconography from the
First Nations people they were. They had a whole day
where most of the people that got tickets that day
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were from that from the First Nations group. And then
they also and I just I'm sure we'll hear about this,
but I just want to say I thought it was
really cool that the local immigration office was giving out
tickets to newly minted Canadians and inviting them to the
tournament as like this is our nation's sport. This is
I mean, it's a little funny, but also yeah, welcome
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to winter and Kate Breton go to a hockey game,
which was yes, it's a little few and funny, but
also just with everything that's going on, particularly for us
kind of close to home, I just was very telling
the acknowledgment of like, you're welcome here and we're gonna
help make your transition easier. Uh So there were I
think maybe the socio political parts of it might stand
(18:29):
out more than anything, but I just, uh, hockey soul
beloved here and it was I mean they had daddy
daughter contests and just the sort of stuff that like
there were people that were excited for women's hockey to
be here in this part of the country and to
cheer for girls that are from six hours away but like, hey,
they're from my province kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Just a real love and embrace of like this is
these are future people, like nobody in this The stands
yesterday cared that these girls were sixteen to eighteen and
may never make an Olympic team, like these are the
you know, the best girls in the country and we
want to watch them in year for them and that
was really cool, you know, like maybe a national championship
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game would be the other time we really see that, like,
you know, so, I yeah, I think that's probably it,
particularly because sometimes we've gone and we're very small towns
in some of these countries and it's not necessarily the
most uh like plewed in fan base, and so it
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just felt like nobody cared that that it was anything
other than great hockey they were watching yesterday and that
was fun cool.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
All right, that's a good win to end it. We
will take a break. When we come back, we will
talk about all the hat tricks that we saw over
the weekend in the NCAAA hockey. Stay with us on
the podcast. We'll back with the podcast. Todd Moluski and
the Cole Hazy here with you for Let's talk about
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some some results from last week in NCAA hockey. I
want to start with Yale, ranked number thirteen last week,
had games against teams ranked ahead of them in the
USACHO dot Com Pole number twelve, Colgate on Friday, number ten,
Cornell on Saturday, and they got him. Got two home
wins there, three nothing against Colgate on Friday, three to
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one against Cornell Saturday. The name that we're learning over
the last month or so is Samson Fry, who is
a freshman goalie at Yale. She made twenty nine saves Friday,
thirty three saves Saturday. These numbers are are getting kind
of ridiculous. Eight to h one, eight starts, point six
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y five goals against, point nine to seven to one
save percentage, four shutouts. Now that's those are numbers that
if you you know, if that stretches over a long
part of the season. You're in the Patty Cask conversation
and I don't know if she's going to get there,
given that she had a kind of a later start,
but man, what a run over the last I guess
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month and change what we're talking about now.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, absolutely, we both sort of went, wait, who so
apologies and yeah, that's awesome. I mean, it's it's kind
of crazy to me that we're in January and we're
still talking about sort of new teams at the forefront,
right like Princeton making the push, now Yale up to
would you say ten in.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
The NPI, ten in the NPI, right, Princeville at seven.
So that's it's those are those are real, real legitimate contenders.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Right now and ahead of the Kirks, Clerkson's and Colgates.
And yeah, it's a getting to the point where like, yeah,
you can't. I there's not a ton of room to
make ground anymore. I mean we're talking what six ish weeks,
like it's.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Two or something like that. Seventh I think.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Ish, I'll take it. Yeah, I mean it's just it's
kind of nuts. So yeah, I you know, good for
Yo because they definitely weren't on the radar for a
little while and have you know, it's like we've been
talking about all on like you have to win. You
have to win your games. You have to take care
of your own business, and you do that and not
worry about everybody else, and you end up we're Princeton
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and Yale are right now, and that's really like kind
of the end of that right Like they're taking you
gotta just go out and do what you need to
do and when the games you're supposed to win and
apparently pull a goalie out having enough spectacular rookie season,
you know, so good for them, and I think we'll
definitely be paying attendancy and what comes next.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, a good run here for Yale. Like I mentioned
up the ten and the NPI seventeen and seven for
the season, Princeton seventeen and four. So these are two
teams that may not have been in that group that
we were looking at at the start of the season
in ECAC hockey, but have really pushed their way into
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the uh the conversation for not only you know, league championships,
but at large bits and NCA tournament, which is which
is great to see that there's you know, teams that
you know, probably thought at the start of the season
that yeah, we're good enough to make a push this season,
but then they have to go out and do it, and.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
They're doing that exactly or that I mean, as we
talked about with Prince of last week, had a rough
couple first weeks and it looked and everybody went well
at the end of that and you know, they we
they fell off radar and and they just kept doing
their stuff, and so yeah, I agree, it's and and
by the other course, like maybe we were you know,
sort of too focused on teams based on what they
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did last year and and stayed you know, stayed too
focused on that going ahead and not not seeing what
these teams were doing to start. It's, uh, you know,
we've only got so many screens we can watch. It's
not easy. But yeah, I think it's pretty interesting. I know,
the people get prostrated with the same couple of teams
at the top, and while that hasn't changed, there's sure
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been a whole heck of volatility. Blow say, the top
three and that I mean Penn State going up, U
and D coming down now, Prince and Neale in this conversation,
and the Holy Cross in Minnesota State being in the
NPI top fifteen. There's just it's it's been really interesting,
and I think it says a lot of good things
(24:28):
about like where we're headed, right.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, I hope so. And I hope that means maybe
some belief then too for teams that you know, this
year maybe are in that you know, fifteen to twenty
sixteen to twenty twenty two range of the NPI where
they're you know, upper half, but not necessarily challenge for
a challenging for anything, whereas maybe next year or the
year after they you know, with the right group with
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the right mentality and outlook can put together a season
that can also challenge. And that's I think. I think
that's what everyone hopes for around the game, is that
there's more teams that are feeling like they have a
chance at something.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah. Absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Also in ECAC last week, Brown with a six to
two win over Colgate, another rough weekend for Coliate, dropping
the twelve twelve and one overall. Munique Lyons and Margo
Norhead each had two goals for Brown in that win.
A good win for Brown, but again Coldiate now pulling
up the NPI at number twelve after something gone on
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a little bit. I'm wrong, that's sixteen, sorry, sixteen for
Colgate looking at the wrong school there, so but right,
they had looked like they're starting to climb out of it.
Now we're looking at a real, real uphill climb and
probably looking like a team that's gonna have to win
(25:55):
the ECAC playoffs to get into the tournament.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I assume that the East Tournament is going to be
an absolute chaoss fest.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Could be because just.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Clearly anybody can beat anybody, and not in the coach's cliche,
we all say that about everybody in our godfriend sort
of way. Six goals from Brown is really good as well,
So I think there's probably quite a bit to build
from on there. As soon as you said they scored
six goals, I hadn't seen the box score, but you
absolutely know that those two money clients and Margo noor
had were involved. So those two have been sort of
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quietly a really great offensive engine for them. And yeah,
I can't imagine that they won't at least make a
really solid run at doing doing some fun stuff and
upsetting teams in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah. Over in the w c h A, this is
where things got just like the goal scoring got out
of hand at some points here last week. But I
want to I want to start with a different result.
We're going to talk about how say it in Minnesota
in a minute. But another rough weekend for Duluth too.
Tie with Saint Cloud State on Friday and Saint Cloud
(27:03):
won the shootout, won nothing, Duluth up to nothing, and
then a game with five minutes to play and Avery
Ferrell Melee Peon scored for Saint Cloud to tie that up,
send it to overtime and the Huskies won that one
in the shootout and then a five to win for
Saint Cloud on Saturday. Good weekend for Emilia Carico in
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goal for the Huskies thirty nine saves Friday, thirty seven Saturday.
But for Duluth four and two in twenty twenty six
and hasn't scored more than two goals in any of
those games. That's that's not what I don't think. I mean,
we're talking about the right word there, right, they're not.
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They're not like in danger of relegation or anything like
that like Finland was. But it feels like good a
team that we we were expecting a lot more from
coming out of the gate in twenty twenty six, and uh,
this is kind of the opposite, almost like he'll turn
it around the other way and that's the direction they've gone.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, I and I I'm not any closer to having
answers this week, that's for sure. It's it's it's head scratching, honestly.
I mean I I they're of such good offensive talent
on that team, so I what where the disconnect is?
And we know how great ed Gaston can be. We
saw how good they were against Wisconsin and then it's
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just like these have been the two weeks that followed that,
and they're like, where did that team go?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
But yeah, I expect I mean, yeah, I just those
their offense is really really skilled, really fads, really talented,
have great shots, and Amili Chuco is really good.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Don't get me wrong, and obviously had a great weekend.
But I just see I expect them to put in
more goals than to a game as they have. So yeah,
lots of head scratching up there. Maybe we'll have to
uh talk to Well and some of the other folks
and get some of our deluse friends to tell us
what they've they've been able to zee, because yeah, I'm watching,
you know, like we watched them again. We played really
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well against Wisconsin, and it's like if that, I mean,
it's kind of how I always feel like that you
watch a team do something so Critney, you're like, well,
what have you been doing? Like why did I watch
you play so bad some other games? So yeah, I
imagine that the coach of staff feels like we do.
But they're getting to the point where this is, yeah,
like concerning for them when it comes to postseas and
other things like that. So they got to figure something
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out sooner or other than later.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Big weekend for individual performances around the w c h A.
Abby Murphy a week after, you know, having the most
ridiculous assists of the season, comes back out at US
an eleven to one win over Buviggi Stadium, Bumigi on
Saturday and has four goals and two assists. Ava Lindsay
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three goals and in that one. But I'm you know.
Abbi Murphy scored thirty three goals as a junior, scored
thirty three goals as a senior. She's now already at
thirty three goals in her fifth year in just twenty
four games. Leads scoring race.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Old scoring lead last year, Yeah, she.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Had it until the last couple of games. I believe
Leila Edwards passed her on the last that was total
right up there exactly. And so she leads the points
raced by twelve points. She leads the goals race by six.
I believe we were talking before that this Olympic break
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is going to negatively impact some stats races in terms
of the players that are that are going to be gone.
Well maybe not for Habby. I mean this is like
she's setting herself up if she has another couple of
games this weekend that with a lot of points, she
might have a she might come back with a lead
after missing eight games.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's absolutely bonker like, first of all, to keep getting
better when you were already leading the country and goal,
and that every single opponent knows who she is and
what she can do, and she is still doing I
mean we talked about this last year. I mean she
she arguably has more scoring, like more help around her
for scoring than she has in years past, and she's
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still doing this because I've at not that she's not talented,
but I think at times last year I was like,
she's the good score goal and so you thought like okay,
because if you looked, you know, her linemates just had
all the assists for her and you could tell the
puck was going to abbey, which, like to be fair,
I also would shovel that way. But yeah, I just
think that she's doing this in the WHA as a
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fifth year, Like there are no secrets or surprises here.
I mean I guess there are, because nobody knew she
was going to pull them across the last week, But
I just mean that like defenses and game plans, like
you couldn't scout her more if you tried, right, Like
every team she's playing knows what they're going up against,
and she's going out and scoring four goals. Like it's
just it's loungers. I don't have like a better word
(32:03):
for it. She's just this. The seal there is sort
of unmatched. I think we haven't seen anybody sort of
as good or doing that, like maybe when Alex Carpenter
was doing that at BC is like the best I
could comp I could come up with at the moment.
But yeah, I it's it's that nobody is surprised by
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this and she's still kind of doing it as well.
That just leaves me sort of speechless when you watch her,
it's just it all looks so effortless. And I think
she's having a ton of fun, which helps. She's the
type of player that like needs that freedom and enjoy
is being a menace and also enjoys, like I mean,
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I think everybody enjoying what I just I think she's
she's at her best when she is is happy and
loving the game and they're winning and it's this much fun.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
That's gonna be fun to watch in the Olympics too.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Right, that this was not just a a Minnesota thing,
because she was doing this at the rivalry series as well,
so this is not necessarily limited to college. This is
something I think she could really give a boost to
the US team if.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I remember correctly, with the US and they were playing
really well together. I think it helps when you have
two sort of very taled to creative people. I think
they feed off each other really well.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Sure not to be outdone. Last week, Joy Done scored
four times State stop it. Oh sorry, I wasn't even
thinking that honestly, but then it came out and like,
oh crap, seven to four Ohio State over Minnesota State
on Friday in man Cato and Joy Dunn scores four
times and Ohio State got this sweep the next day
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with a four to one win. These are okay, So
we've talked about about two players and be gone for
a few weeks starting not this weekend coming up, but
the next week. So I'm interested in your thoughts on
like teams are. Yeah, we're we're ohiose stage Wisconsin Minnesota
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are gonna be left in a week knowing that, Okay,
so next next week, not this coming week, but next
week Wisconsin plays at Minnesota the following weekend, ohiose the
plays at Wisconsin. So those are these games that we've
expected and we know are going to be great, you know,
regardless of who's on the ice or not on the ice.
But there's gonna be something missing in a lot of those.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Well I wanted to double check. So I just been
looked in. Like for Ohios three, No. Four, two, four
of their top six scorers are going to be at
the Olympics right till the spense enjoy done Sai von
Hahnen and mere Uniker. That's so it's not just talking
about joy done right, like it's it's that that's a
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large portion of what Ohio State has been able to
do this year. I think they're probably going to be
the most tested in terms of meeting the rest of
the roster to stand up to step up. But I also, like,
I don't have a doubt that those players are capable.
It's just whether or not they sort of do it
in the in the way that the team needs right, Like,
it's not always easy when to take on that completely
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new role. I think the bonus for Wisconsin is that
like essentially their their lines are leaving in mass and
so it's not pieces going. But like, I don't know
if that's that's one way I look at it, like
it would be easier to like not replace one person
on your line, but to just like move the second
line up right. Also, they who had a spectacular weekend. Lacy,
(35:48):
even since not making the US roster, has been I think,
extra motivated to show some stuff. But yeah, I think
I don't know, we none of us know. I'm just hypothesizing,
but it does seem like it might be easier. Who knows.
I don't have an answer, but it feels like it
feels like Ohio State is going to struggle from the
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the volume of players in their top scory. And I
think Minnesota is going to struggle because it's Abbie Murphy.
And I think it's not just Abby the goalscorer Abby
the playmaker, but I think her personality drives a tonne
of what they do and also just her creativity. I
think she's a player that elevates everybody around her, and
when things are when you're back to do a quarter,
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when things are not working or whatever, I think Abby
is the person that that helps them.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Get out of that.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
So and for Wisconsin, who knows. I just what do
you when you talk about so many players leaving, I
think it's impossible to replace KK Harvey. So the idea
of even talking book somebody taking that role, it seems hilarious.
What are your thoughts on and but that first.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
We can talk about KK Harvey, Leila Edwards, Kristen Simms, Adela.
All we won, but they're losing their starting goalie and
Navid McNaughton, and they have not her more. It's only
played a couple of games as a freshman, and so.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Her some of these non conference kens, what do you
why are you not playing rise? Like every time her
lineup came out when they were playing somebody, like even
at the holidays. She doesn't need experience.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
She played that stone Hill game that ended up with
seventeen to two or whatever it was. She's played a
third period of a game. I feel like she was
in another one. But yeah, and so her first opportunity
then is going to be, hey, go play at Ritter
against good Luck you know the golfers, Yeah, double checkings.
(37:58):
I don't know. I understand, all right, Like they're very
different goalies, right, I understand the when you have Avian
McNaught on your roster, you player kind of mentality that
knowing you're gonna be with her without her for a
month player and the ones that you do have her for.
(38:18):
But I it really does open up the like the
second guessing of if that month does not go well
in goal, what has happened with that decision?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
So we know wiscon also like you're doing that, but
also have you know like now you're doing that and
not always super solid second and third defensive line, right,
I don't know. Yeah, usually every time roster came out
in a game where you were like, okay, what's continent handle?
That's fine? Why is Aba mcnatton facing the seven shots?
(38:55):
I I really think Lord knows who speak who's questioning
Mark Johnson?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
And yet I'm just like you no understand these There's
there's a that's a very valid point of like, Okay,
he's he's usually made the right decision, so.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Well, I don't think I've smarter than then, so clearly
I'm in the wrong, But it just it feel it
feels not great.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, well that's one of those we're going to have
to see because if it goes well, he Obviously she's
there for a reason. I mean, she's.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
She does, but she's also been sitting for a year,
and just I don't I think that she will handle
things fine, like from a like stop a shot that comes.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Out in this sort of situation.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
But there's all the other things that you just like
you said, playing in ridder and all that sort of
stuff that I just feel like alonged her to find
some of that comfort and not have essentially like your
first started because playing Stonehill wasn't even in a college bar.
So yeah, I don't know, Dick Seeds. It's head scratching,
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let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Okay, One more result I wanted to get to before
we take a break, Merrimac beating Yukon to one overtime
last Friday, Avery Anderson scoring the overtime goal after Emma
Feffer equalized with just under six minutes to play. There,
Yukon thirty seven to seventeen in shots on goal, but
can't get that to equal A victory doesn't really cost
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the Huskies in the NPI, still fifth there, so it's
more a could be a speed bump for them. We
will see, but it definitely was one of those oh yes,
for sure when it came over on Friday.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah, I think two time will tell. I think on
this whether it was a bump in the road or
a bigger speed bump than we need to worry about.
But I think one of the big things that was
sort of a topic conversation at the eighteens this week
was the idea of like needing to go through adversity,
whether that is going down a goal or losing, like
that can come in a bunch of different ways, but
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like you don't know how you're going to react to
that sort of stuff until you're in it. And I
think it's good to win or lose a couple of
games and be in some type of situations these DIY mean,
but like put thirty seven shots on goal and score once, right,
you said two to one, yes, and like learn from
that because that's the only way, Like you don't want
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to be in that situation in an elimination game. So
I think it sort it can't be overstated how important
that is, particularly sort of when we're talking obviously this
is teenagers at you eighteen, but like don't forget the
college kids are still young too, you know. I think
sometimes particularly with some of these schools, we talk about
them like they're professionals and they are not. And so, yeah,
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I assume that this is one of those smack on
the back of the head, what were you doing, learn
from that and move on sort of situations. I trust
that that's the case for Yukon, but I guess I
will wait and see.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yes, just one more mentioned before we go. Holy Cross
up the number fourteen in the us cho dot com
poll this week, also fourteenth in the NPI after beating
BU four to two on Saturday. Holy Cross sixteen seven
and one on the season. So this is a another
one of those you know where we didn't we were not? Yeah, right,
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but it does feel like a little bit of the
you know, Hockey East seeming to put in a team
that we weren't expecting every year to one in the
top spots.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Taking some of those points. And I like that they're not.
I mean, holy Cross isn't a team that puts a
ten of goals in the net overall normally, and so
like a four to two wins is a good solid
They're not eating these out, is basically what I'm saying.
And I think it's good to see that they're not
you know, winning one of the games, but they're they're
really like putting together an offense, which is nice.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, another quick break, and then we will talk about
the bean Pot third place and championship coming up Tuesday night,
and the other other games that are coming up on
the schedule in NCAA Women's hockey. Stay with us on
the podcast. Welcome back to the podcast, Todd and Nicole.
(43:23):
To wrap things up this week. Bean Pot Tuesday championship
game coming up this week, Harvard will play Boston University
for the championship seven thirty eastern on Tuesday, after Boston
College and Northeastern have the third place game at four
to thirty eastern. Again, these games at TD Garden, which
we hope, like we mentioned last week, we'll have a
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a good crowd to cheer this one on. It was
cool seeing that last season Harvard and BU again just
saw this happen in Belfast, and these are teams that
gonna need to win their conference tournament to go anywhere
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in the postseason, going to need to build up some
results before then to really even have any thought of that.
I would think a bean Pot championship could mean a
little bit in that that effort, I would think, and
justin having some good feelings as you're going in the
really the last month of the regular season.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Yeah, agreed, And I think it can't be understated, like
how big a jump this is for Harvard after having
you know, they won two games last year, they were
two twenty five and two, and right now they're ten,
ten and one and playing for.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
The Bean bought championship, from a team morale position, from
a recruiting position, Like, there's just a lot that is
positive about this from Harvard. And I think we've talked about,
you know, some of their wins and maybe we weren't expecting,
like no, we really weren't sure what to expect from
this team. So you know, they won one conference team
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last year, so good for them to really be have
a bounce back here and and sort of keep doing it,
you know, like you said, they're still going to have
to do a lot to be talking postseason, but I
think it's a huge, huge change from last year and
that's hard to doing one year. So good for them.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Right this Saturday and Sunday, Northeastern and Yukon have a
home and home. Can I don't know if you can
recall that anymore. Northeastern doesn't have a home, so can
you call it a home and home series? Anyway? It's
at Yukon on Saturday, and Northeastern is hosting Yukon Sunday
at Bentley's Arena. So that's there a home of Connecticut
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of the week. No, it's in it's in the Boston.
People are gonna tell me I'm wrong, But waltam I
think so somewhere in the greater Greater Boston area I believe,
which still could be No, but it's it's within more
within range of of Northeastern than Yukon. So yeah, So
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but this is the These are the two teams that
are you know, ranked the highest in Hockey East. A
couple of teams that we know are you know, have
had have had their bumps in the last couple of weeks.
So I if either of these teams can come out
with two wins, that's a massive result.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah. I would say even a win and a tire
winning an extra top, you know, like a majority of
the points. I think it has to be the goal here. Yeah,
it'll be really interesting and we don't necessarily often get
step back to back Hocky East spreads out their games
a lot more and so kind of fun that we've
got this home and Suita home. Like a lot is
(46:43):
decided for this conference out of this like likely out
of this weekend, so that'll be it's a lot going on.
I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Northeastern six points ahead of Yukon in the Hockey East standings,
both having played fourteen conference games. So that's that's your
gap one weekend's game, and so if Yukon can can
win both of them in regulation, that's that's a tie
at the top of the standing. Switch would make that
a real fun next couple of weeks here as they
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kind of you know, position against each other without playing
each other.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Then yeah, and then they play each other the last
weekend of the regular season. They play Friday, February twentieth.
So a lot going on here in the final weeks.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
On the on the flip side, Northeast you can almost
kind of take a stranglehold on the conference if they
win all six points there. So so obviously a lot,
a lot going on in that Saturday Sunday series. A
lot going on in Cornell's world this weekend, number twelve
Cornell playing at number seven Princeton Friday and at number
(47:48):
six Quinnipiac on Saturday. So there's your your test of
the week for a for an ECAC team is going
on the road to play those two teams. You have
to love a challenge. But back to back with with
with those two teams this season is is a lot.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
It is, yeah, and sort of some different styles different
Like I it's a tough back to back to prepare
for in a couple of different ways. And Cornell is
is maybe not quite as bad as is um D,
but as a team that just has to be a
head scratching in terms of I don't know what to
expect from them week to week or what I want
(48:31):
to be looking for them to do. So I don't
have any like I'm glad I'm not prognosticating what's gonna
happen there because I'm just like, I don't, I don't
know it will it would. I believe that Cornell has
the worywithal to go and really do something with those
two games this weekend, but it at all, it all
would not surprise me the other way around. And so yeah,
(48:53):
that's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, And in the the w c h A, Minnesota
looks for its first win of twenty twenty at Minnesota
State man Cato. At Minnesota State in man Cato. I
should say a couple of teams that that really could
use a positive Yeah, you know, there's been positive points.
(49:16):
I mean d Luth want to shootout against Wisconsin two
weeks ago. Minnesota State has been right there in with
obviously had the sweep of Minnesota earlier this season, but
of late it's been a rougher go good good vibes
would be appreciated on both of these sides.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, you know, d Luth needs those points more for
their season, But yeah, I I Minnesota State is a
team that I think when they really are clicking and
when they really believe that they like when they're really
hyped and all pumps together, are a really tough team.
But I'm not sure how often all of those pieces
click at the same time, And so I think that's
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where it's going to be if they can and sort
of really settle in and play the game they want
to play, or you know, depending on what d Luth
team shows up. I guess.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
D Luth is kind of on an island in the
WHA standings right now, in fourth place. There are fifteen
points behind third place Minnesota and ten points ahead of
fifth place Minnesota State. So this and then you look
further down Minnesota State, Saint Cloud State tied for fifth.
That's seventeen points, Saint Thomas a point back at sixteen.
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So that's gonna be an interesting race to follow, just
as much as the racer first is. I've got Wisconsin
three points ahead of Ohio State, who is two points
ahead of Minnesota. A lot to be decided there, but
I mean, the luth Is feels like kind of locked
into that four spot and unless something it was massively
(50:53):
right or massively wrong, right, I mean there's a there's
a chance of that, you know swinging, you know, after
a few weeks, but it does kind of feel like
they're they're heading towards another fourth place finish in the
RAJA interesting and uh so.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Putting themselves closer to you, um D and also giving
them breathing room behind them like it's a big week
and bigger weekend from Minnesota State than maybe it initially looked.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah, absolutely, okay, Nicole, I know you need some sleep.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, we should shout out the PWHL takeover tour in
Washington d C the D one and D C program
tournament do well, and they set a new US record
for attendance at that game. I know, I have absolutely
no idea how many tickets were sold for t D
guard for the bean Pot, but I know that people
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have been talking about wanting that to be able to
set a record there, So I guess we'll see what
those numbers look like on Tuesday. But yeah, it's been
a good week for for women's hockey looking looking pretty
good on a national scale and Washington, DC, shir did
make a pretty big statement for we should have a team,
So shout out to everybody there. It felt like everybody
I knew in my feed was at that game. I had,
(52:06):
I had some uh some forum all of that, and yeah,
between that and the big crowd here it was. It
was a fun weekend for that. So I hope TV
gardens rocking as well. I hope everybody shows up for
them in Boston.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
All right, you can make sure to follow those scores,
stats standings at us h O dot com. And Nicole
will have a wrap up after the weekend as always,
and we will be back next week for another edition
of the podcast. For Nicole, I'm Todd, we'll see that
Usccho dot com. Hi, welcome to the podcast. I'm Todd
Lusky here with a weary Nicole Hasey from Nova Scotia,
where she has covered twenty one games of the Under
eighteen Women's World Championship in the span of nine days,
seven of them playing days. And uh, Nicole, I'm sure
(00:28):
you're kind of tired at this point after being at
rinks for eighteen hour days.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Some of them preemptively apologize for all the yond.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
The ons as you've mis se me ons. Yeah, US
comes away with the gold again with a two nothing
victory over Canada on Sunday night. Let's start there, Nicole.
Is that a just continuation of the US yes year
of good feelings or a year plus of good feelings
(00:58):
around USA hockey? What what do you make of it? Well?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I see like that for the most part it was
a toss up between them and Canada. I think they
were well matched. I felt like the US sort of
handled I mean, this was maybe one of the poor
it was. It was not a great tournament. Neither of
those two teams are really challenged for more than a
period or two until they got to the gold medal
(01:24):
v and that's that's hard to then completely up the
intensity and be the team you need to be to
be your big rival. But I think the US just
sort of handled that a little better. There's probably an
interesting side we could go off at some point. I
always feel like happy Canada can get very stuck in
their ways, particularly I think at this age when they're
(01:48):
very much trying to teach them to like follow your
system and make your habits. I mean, that's a thing
I felt about the senior team, and then that like
really compounds down here and I did feel a little
bit that like, sometimes you just need to like your
players cook. And I know that can be really weird
to say at seventeen, but I felt like, like, for example,
the US's first goal was base set play that the
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two players chose to try themselves off a face off,
and I don't think anybody at Canada does allowed to
make that decision any do player. So I just think
it's a different approach. You know, it's been Certainly, there's
nothing you can take away Canada does one a couple
of olds at this level. They're obviously been doing pretty
well at the senior level, have all the Olympic holds,
so it's hard to criticize some of it, but I
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do think that there was a system set up. The
games didn't necessarily provide a whole lot of competition, and
then when it came time to sort of execute that play,
and I'm not sure the players were in the best
position to do it, but it was one of those games.
I compared it like an old Wisconsin Minnesota game or
(02:54):
now maybe in Wisconsin Ohio state. Like it was just
sloppy and chippy and messy in the best possible way.
Nobody helped position possession for a while, right, it was
just back and forth and you know, lots of slapper
at the pucks and whoever comes away with it is
going to get a chance. And but when you're you're
so set in your system and then never get set
off in your offensive zone. I think that left some
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their players not quite sure what to do, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And yeah, referees let them play, which it really did.
We got to be taken to let them play, meaning
you can get away with a lot, and we've seen
that happen in college to we even that, you know,
in some of the biggest games of the season. It's
just like referees have decided unless it's blatant, we don't
want to play a role in this. So you know,
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figure it out. How did How did you feel like
that maybe played into the just kind of the flow
of that game. How it how it? Uh? You know,
it continued to you know, nobody got the power plays.
There's very few power play chances to try and change
momentum or do any of those kinds of things. So
it really just felt like a let's let's let you
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guys decide it out here.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I mean that bit was nice, right, and I don't
feel like it got out of hand at any point,
and so I feel like that is that an AIDS thing?
I don't know, But there were a couple of times.
It's so interesting too, because you're in a position like
people out here in Cape Brighton, like they don't watch
a Tunnel Women talkie. They definitely don't watch it at
this level. So there were times that the crowd really
wanted a penalty and I was like, yeah, I don't.
I that is getting called a whole lot of places,
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but I was, you know, I was sitting next to
the reporter from the local newspaper and he was like, yeah,
this is more physical than I thought. He's like everybody
told me it would be. He's like, but this is
even more than I thought. But you know, there would
be a lot of shoulder to shoulder and there was
a lot of sorts smush people up against class and
they're just kind of never gonna call that, you know.
So it was nice to keep the flow of the game.
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I mean I say that there was no flow to
that game. The game was was, like I said, a
hot mess, complimentary, best possible way, but nobody was doing
what they thought they wanted to be able to do.
So it was kind of who dealt with that the best.
And I think one of the big things that the
US did was was very well in transition, so the
way that they sort of turned a turno because again
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nobody's like there's turnovers and the PEPs hopping and if
you if there's a chance like the US has had
in the other direction. And one of the things that
I think Canada sometimes struggled with and in coach Piki's
Sanahara talked about early on, was they were really trying
to put the idea in their head of defense first
that like it's fine to get involved on the offense,
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but like defense turns into offense, and if you cheat
too far forward like that, you can get away with
that against you know, Hungary or Citzerlin, but you can't
get away with that against some other teams. Chuck, you
would also have been a team that would have given
them problems with some of that. And so I thought
the US took advantage of their breaks when they had them.
And also Bianca, I think it's beer TIERI played a
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spectacular game and that she just was absolutely outstanding and
coming into this see this tournament, I would have thought
we're gonna stick me, was gonna play every game. She
kind of did last tournament and had a long shutout
screak and they split time early. But it's britty tier
I always want to do. It's not b R I,
it's b I R Bird Tiery was the goalie that
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got the winds in the summer series. So essentially it
is the only goalie that has to beat Canada in
several years at this age level. And so nobsa happy
would want to say it. They were, They were very diplomatic,
go to all our bullies, but I think the decision
was to go with her all along and it was
a very good one.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, how about the environment in that building? Obviously a
pro Canada crowd, but a good pocket of American family
and friends. And it did seem like the Canadian fans
were trying to will their team for a lot of
that game, and it there was one gentleman in the
front row and you kept seeing banging on the glass
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throughout the night. To talk a little bit about that,
you know, part of just that the evening of how
the atmosphere was compared to other events like this you've seen,
which you know, I mean, I remember was it in
Chechia that there was a I don't know if it
was that U eighteen or Women's Worlds, but that was
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seniors but yeah, that was seniors. But it was just
like this was a massive crowd that was just incredibly
like influential in getting their team involved and keeping them
going at some points.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yes. Side note is the first application for U eighteens
for next year came from Czechia. So I'm very hopeful
that that's where we're going next year because I agree
that problem was amazing and they the IHF and and
Chechia did a great job. They like created a beer
good note side and kept people around and like made
it an event, which is just a thing that we
don't see a ton on the U eighteen side. So
fingers crossed. But yes, it was over five thousand people,
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which I think has to be by far the I
was just crowd. I've seen it at U eighteen when Sweden,
when we were in Sweden, Sweden made the gold Metal game,
and so they did fill that barn, but it wasn't
as big and unfortunately and that like immediately the US
took over and so that crowd was lowed for a while.
But then and I would say Canada's crowd last night
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was so nice, so loud, so so far they were
willing them. I wanted them to get a goal just
for that crowd. People have been so nice and so
wonderful and have come to games. I mean there have been,
you know, some of them sparsely attended. Particularly we moved
from a rank to ad like I think about twelve
hundred seats to this bigger barn starting at quarterfinals, and
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they you know, they filled it for the first quarter
final with kids and just have done a really good
job about getting people there, and a ton of people
in Canada to gear were there for the Browns medal game,
so that was nice. I will see to several Most
of the crowds stayed around for the whole postgame ceremony
and we're like applauding the Americans and cheering for the
girls that were named to like the All Star team
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and things like that. So the crowd was just really
cool and nice, and I thought it was pretty awesome
that everybody got to play in that atmosphere and it
was fun. The Americans basically said like, yeah, we we
liked getting we love playing in that environment. We liked
getting to make them a little quiet. And so because
I'm petty, I appreciated that about of petty, Like the
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girls are like, yeah, that was awesome. You know, it's
the biggest probably played in front of it. Also, it
was nice to shut it down. So no, it was
it was spectacular. It was essentially a sellout. I think
that's they were thinking. That was the most people that
ever watched hockey in that barn. There's a queue. I
don't remember all the initials, but the queue. The Quebec's
league plays there, and they said they do get decent crowds,
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but not usually quite that big, So it was fun.
They had signs and flags and just the atmosphere was spectacular.
So that was amazing. And they never gave up on that,
you know, because honestly that that game could have turned
at any moment, and so it was allowed for sixty minutes,
which was amazing. And any girl from the Atlantic region
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got massive, so like even if you're from Pei, if
you're from anywhere near ear, those girls got massive cheers.
Which was.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
The US and Canada playing for the gold medal. Not
a surprise Finland ending up in the relegation game. A surprise.
Finland losing the relegation game and going down a division
next season a massive shock. What can you say about that?
That whole situation of how they got there and then
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not being able to you know, win that game to
stay up. It just feels like for a country that's
been you know, close to that, you know, in metal
games kind of environment, that's that's a big drop.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I will say, if you told me, you know, ten
days ago, that that's where we'd be, I would be surprised.
After watching Finland play in their first game, not super surprised.
And then afterwards when you're talking to the coach and
the players, and they kind of don't have any idea
to say about what went wrong, and that kind of
happened over and over again. It's like, well, they're prepared,
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but they're just they're scared or we don't know what happened.
And so there was a lot of non answers, which
was i mean, a just frustrating from a journalistic standpoint,
but also like and again it could be it's like
they could have been saying different things in their non
English interviews, right, I mean, their Finnish interviews, But yeah,
it's they just looked it looked like they were standing
still a kind of at all times. I mean, and
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even other coaches were saying like, well, we prepared, we
watched tape, but we just saw that they weren't moving
their feet at all, so we just knew we could
skate around them. So yeah, having watched them throughout the tournament,
that they were relegated is not at all of surprise.
But from that that larger talking point, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Hope.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
My concern is that, I mean, clearly they're not developing
the way that they can and should be. We know
that just generally women talking is not get enough attention
from the federations. You know, it's all it's all a hierarchy, right,
Like there are countries that would love to get the
attention Finland gives, but Finland would love to get what
the US and you know, Checkia now, and so it's
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it is a hierarchy. But they they have a team
in their league, like the it's what is it, the
Aurora Liga. They created like fundamentally a development team like
the US development team that plays. It's called Team Quotare
and it's like essentially a high school for their hockey girls.
And so they did that a few years back, and
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this is where we're at a few years into that experiment.
So that's bad. And so yeah, I guess my concern
is that this is like, well, it depends on what
the response is. Is the response like this is a
national embarrassment and we have to fix it, or is
this response this isn't a national embarrassment and we're never
giving you money again and figure it out, you know,
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and so like it it sort of depends on and
what that response looks like now to decide how this
is going to go down. I think and hope that
that you know, there I know that they're embarrassed and
I know that this is really concerning and so yeah,
but you know, this isn't a super huge shock. Haven't
watched them the last few years, like they weren't getting better,
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they weren't improving, and so hopefully this makes some people
that come pay attention. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, that's the the big question going forward is that
is this just a shrug of the shoulders, like, eh,
do we does anyone care enough to to make it
mean something that that's where we're going to look over
the next couple of years, because I mean, let's be honest,
they're gonna, i mean, unless something crazy happens, they're gonna
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be back up for the twenty twenty eight main event
back in Canada, So which also feels like it's a
million years away just from talking about that now. But yeah,
it's you've lost now really two years of your your
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age group of having that team competing for anything.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So yeah, and it makes me wonder like all the
non like non IAGEFF competitions, like they play in various
different things, like will they be invited to some of
that stuff? Will other teams be scheduling those?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So not only do they lose that competition of the
one you know, ten day I JEF tournament, but also
what happens in between, which clearly wasn't preparing them enough
as it was.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
But yeah, right, I mean, there has to be a
team going down every year. But I don't think any
of us thought it was unly Finland going in.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So no, But like the flip side of that is
a way to go Hungry Hungary who had not been
at the top for I believe it's never it's twelve
or fourteen years.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
It's a lot of years, and it's been a long
time that a team that just came up stayed up.
So they played with the of heart.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
They scored one goal the whole tournament before the relegation game,
and then scored seven. And I went through the IHF
record book and I could not find a women's team
from Hungary that had scored seven goals, so I don't, Yeah,
they had. Their one goal was to get Switzerland in
which was like sort of the pre relegation. The loser
in that game was going to go to the relegation,
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so that was like the pre relegation relegation, and they
scored one goal in that game, and that was it.
So yeah, just upon of heart. It was even just
the approach, like the way that they would come out
after a game where they lost a bunch, they were
ready to talk about what they had learned and how
it was going to help them. And I felt like
there was something to being sort of the humble, like
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we're new here and whatever happens happened, whereas it felt
like everything from Finland was like a gut punch that
they didn't know how to react to. And so maybe
just that that attitude of it, like you could see
that hungry learned things in some of those games they
got blown out and then used that in that relegation game,
and maybe that approach alone was was the difference.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Right, last thing I want to get to before we
take a break and then get into uh NCAA results
from last week. You've been to five of these now,
is that right? Sixth? Something like that? Five? What are
you going to remember about this one in terms of
the behind the scenes so things that you know, we
a lot of us watch these games and saw the
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TV production. What what are you going to remember of
what you saw, what you experienced, you know, in those buildings?
Two you know, to make this experience stand out.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
One thing that I thought was very cool and that
I think is more prevalent here in Canada than at home,
was that like that first stadium was on Native I'm sorry,
they use First Nations land or Indigenous land, and like
we so everything in Canada is usually in English and
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in French, and like a good percentage of the so
like every goal announcement, every roster, all of that stuff.
But we had a couple of games where it was
in English and the local UH First Nations language. They
had the player of the tournament got a beaded flower,
which is the flower of Nova Scotia, but with beaded
by First Nations. There was just a very cool inter
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weaving of that into the whole experience, from being in
that first UH arena to at this separate arena, like
they made specific Hockey Canada jerseys using iconography from the
First Nations people they were. They had a whole day
where most of the people that got tickets that day
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were from that from the First Nations group. And then
they also and I just I'm sure we'll hear about this,
but I just want to say I thought it was
really cool that the local immigration office was giving out
tickets to newly minted Canadians and inviting them to the
tournament as like this is our nation's sport. This is
I mean, it's a little funny, but also yeah, welcome
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to winter and Kate Breton go to a hockey game,
which was yes, it's a little few and funny, but
also just with everything that's going on, particularly for us
kind of close to home, I just was very telling
the acknowledgment of like, you're welcome here and we're gonna
help make your transition easier. Uh So there were I
think maybe the socio political parts of it might stand
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out more than anything, but I just, uh, hockey soul
beloved here and it was I mean they had daddy
daughter contests and just the sort of stuff that like
there were people that were excited for women's hockey to
be here in this part of the country and to
cheer for girls that are from six hours away but like, hey,
they're from my province kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Just a real love and embrace of like this is
these are future people, like nobody in this The stands
yesterday cared that these girls were sixteen to eighteen and
may never make an Olympic team, like these are the
you know, the best girls in the country and we
want to watch them in year for them and that
was really cool, you know, like maybe a national championship
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game would be the other time we really see that, like,
you know, so, I yeah, I think that's probably it,
particularly because sometimes we've gone and we're very small towns
in some of these countries and it's not necessarily the
most uh like plewed in fan base, and so it
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just felt like nobody cared that that it was anything
other than great hockey they were watching yesterday and that
was fun cool.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
All right, that's a good win to end it. We
will take a break. When we come back, we will
talk about all the hat tricks that we saw over
the weekend in the NCAAA hockey. Stay with us on
the podcast. We'll back with the podcast. Todd Moluski and
the Cole Hazy here with you for Let's talk about
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some some results from last week in NCAA hockey. I
want to start with Yale, ranked number thirteen last week,
had games against teams ranked ahead of them in the
USACHO dot Com Pole number twelve, Colgate on Friday, number ten,
Cornell on Saturday, and they got him. Got two home
wins there, three nothing against Colgate on Friday, three to
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one against Cornell Saturday. The name that we're learning over
the last month or so is Samson Fry, who is
a freshman goalie at Yale. She made twenty nine saves Friday,
thirty three saves Saturday. These numbers are are getting kind
of ridiculous. Eight to h one, eight starts, point six
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y five goals against, point nine to seven to one
save percentage, four shutouts. Now that's those are numbers that
if you you know, if that stretches over a long
part of the season. You're in the Patty Cask conversation
and I don't know if she's going to get there,
given that she had a kind of a later start,
but man, what a run over the last I guess
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month and change what we're talking about now.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, absolutely, we both sort of went, wait, who so
apologies and yeah, that's awesome. I mean, it's it's kind
of crazy to me that we're in January and we're
still talking about sort of new teams at the forefront,
right like Princeton making the push, now Yale up to
would you say ten in.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
The NPI, ten in the NPI, right, Princeville at seven.
So that's it's those are those are real, real legitimate contenders.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Right now and ahead of the Kirks, Clerkson's and Colgates.
And yeah, it's a getting to the point where like, yeah,
you can't. I there's not a ton of room to
make ground anymore. I mean we're talking what six ish weeks,
like it's.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Two or something like that. Seventh I think.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Ish, I'll take it. Yeah, I mean it's just it's
kind of nuts. So yeah, I you know, good for
Yo because they definitely weren't on the radar for a
little while and have you know, it's like we've been
talking about all on like you have to win. You
have to win your games. You have to take care
of your own business, and you do that and not
worry about everybody else, and you end up we're Princeton
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and Yale are right now, and that's really like kind
of the end of that right Like they're taking you
gotta just go out and do what you need to
do and when the games you're supposed to win and
apparently pull a goalie out having enough spectacular rookie season,
you know, so good for them, and I think we'll
definitely be paying attendancy and what comes next.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, a good run here for Yale. Like I mentioned
up the ten and the NPI seventeen and seven for
the season, Princeton seventeen and four. So these are two
teams that may not have been in that group that
we were looking at at the start of the season
in ECAC hockey, but have really pushed their way into
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the uh the conversation for not only you know, league championships,
but at large bits and NCA tournament, which is which
is great to see that there's you know, teams that
you know, probably thought at the start of the season
that yeah, we're good enough to make a push this season,
but then they have to go out and do it, and.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
They're doing that exactly or that I mean, as we
talked about with Prince of last week, had a rough
couple first weeks and it looked and everybody went well
at the end of that and you know, they we
they fell off radar and and they just kept doing
their stuff, and so yeah, I agree, it's and and
by the other course, like maybe we were you know,
sort of too focused on teams based on what they
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did last year and and stayed you know, stayed too
focused on that going ahead and not not seeing what
these teams were doing to start. It's, uh, you know,
we've only got so many screens we can watch. It's
not easy. But yeah, I think it's pretty interesting. I know,
the people get prostrated with the same couple of teams
at the top, and while that hasn't changed, there's sure
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been a whole heck of volatility. Blow say, the top
three and that I mean Penn State going up, U
and D coming down now, Prince and Neale in this conversation,
and the Holy Cross in Minnesota State being in the
NPI top fifteen. There's just it's it's been really interesting,
and I think it says a lot of good things
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about like where we're headed, right.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, I hope so. And I hope that means maybe
some belief then too for teams that you know, this
year maybe are in that you know, fifteen to twenty
sixteen to twenty twenty two range of the NPI where
they're you know, upper half, but not necessarily challenge for
a challenging for anything, whereas maybe next year or the
year after they you know, with the right group with
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the right mentality and outlook can put together a season
that can also challenge. And that's I think. I think
that's what everyone hopes for around the game, is that
there's more teams that are feeling like they have a
chance at something.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah. Absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Also in ECAC last week, Brown with a six to
two win over Colgate, another rough weekend for Coliate, dropping
the twelve twelve and one overall. Munique Lyons and Margo
Norhead each had two goals for Brown in that win.
A good win for Brown, but again Coldiate now pulling
up the NPI at number twelve after something gone on
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a little bit. I'm wrong, that's sixteen, sorry, sixteen for
Colgate looking at the wrong school there, so but right,
they had looked like they're starting to climb out of it.
Now we're looking at a real, real uphill climb and
probably looking like a team that's gonna have to win
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the ECAC playoffs to get into the tournament.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I assume that the East Tournament is going to be
an absolute chaoss fest.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Could be because just.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Clearly anybody can beat anybody, and not in the coach's cliche,
we all say that about everybody in our godfriend sort
of way. Six goals from Brown is really good as well,
So I think there's probably quite a bit to build
from on there. As soon as you said they scored
six goals, I hadn't seen the box score, but you
absolutely know that those two money clients and Margo noor
had were involved. So those two have been sort of
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quietly a really great offensive engine for them. And yeah,
I can't imagine that they won't at least make a
really solid run at doing doing some fun stuff and
upsetting teams in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah. Over in the w c h A, this is
where things got just like the goal scoring got out
of hand at some points here last week. But I
want to I want to start with a different result.
We're going to talk about how say it in Minnesota
in a minute. But another rough weekend for Duluth too.
Tie with Saint Cloud State on Friday and Saint Cloud
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won the shootout, won nothing, Duluth up to nothing, and
then a game with five minutes to play and Avery
Ferrell Melee Peon scored for Saint Cloud to tie that up,
send it to overtime and the Huskies won that one
in the shootout and then a five to win for
Saint Cloud on Saturday. Good weekend for Emilia Carico in
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goal for the Huskies thirty nine saves Friday, thirty seven Saturday.
But for Duluth four and two in twenty twenty six
and hasn't scored more than two goals in any of
those games. That's that's not what I don't think. I mean,
we're talking about the right word there, right, they're not.
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They're not like in danger of relegation or anything like
that like Finland was. But it feels like good a
team that we we were expecting a lot more from
coming out of the gate in twenty twenty six, and uh,
this is kind of the opposite, almost like he'll turn
it around the other way and that's the direction they've gone.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, I and I I'm not any closer to having
answers this week, that's for sure. It's it's it's head scratching, honestly.
I mean I I they're of such good offensive talent
on that team, so I what where the disconnect is?
And we know how great ed Gaston can be. We
saw how good they were against Wisconsin and then it's
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just like these have been the two weeks that followed that,
and they're like, where did that team go?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
But yeah, I expect I mean, yeah, I just those
their offense is really really skilled, really fads, really talented,
have great shots, and Amili Chuco is really good.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Don't get me wrong, and obviously had a great weekend.
But I just see I expect them to put in
more goals than to a game as they have. So yeah,
lots of head scratching up there. Maybe we'll have to
uh talk to Well and some of the other folks
and get some of our deluse friends to tell us
what they've they've been able to zee, because yeah, I'm watching,
you know, like we watched them again. We played really
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well against Wisconsin, and it's like if that, I mean,
it's kind of how I always feel like that you
watch a team do something so Critney, you're like, well,
what have you been doing? Like why did I watch
you play so bad some other games? So yeah, I
imagine that the coach of staff feels like we do.
But they're getting to the point where this is, yeah,
like concerning for them when it comes to postseas and
other things like that. So they got to figure something
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out sooner or other than later.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Big weekend for individual performances around the w c h A.
Abby Murphy a week after, you know, having the most
ridiculous assists of the season, comes back out at US
an eleven to one win over Buviggi Stadium, Bumigi on
Saturday and has four goals and two assists. Ava Lindsay
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three goals and in that one. But I'm you know.
Abbi Murphy scored thirty three goals as a junior, scored
thirty three goals as a senior. She's now already at
thirty three goals in her fifth year in just twenty
four games. Leads scoring race.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Old scoring lead last year, Yeah, she.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Had it until the last couple of games. I believe
Leila Edwards passed her on the last that was total
right up there exactly. And so she leads the points
raced by twelve points. She leads the goals race by six.
I believe we were talking before that this Olympic break
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is going to negatively impact some stats races in terms
of the players that are that are going to be gone.
Well maybe not for Habby. I mean this is like
she's setting herself up if she has another couple of
games this weekend that with a lot of points, she
might have a she might come back with a lead
after missing eight games.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's absolutely bonker like, first of all, to keep getting
better when you were already leading the country and goal,
and that every single opponent knows who she is and
what she can do, and she is still doing I
mean we talked about this last year. I mean she
she arguably has more scoring, like more help around her
for scoring than she has in years past, and she's
(31:19):
still doing this because I've at not that she's not talented,
but I think at times last year I was like,
she's the good score goal and so you thought like okay,
because if you looked, you know, her linemates just had
all the assists for her and you could tell the
puck was going to abbey, which, like to be fair,
I also would shovel that way. But yeah, I just
think that she's doing this in the WHA as a
(31:42):
fifth year, Like there are no secrets or surprises here.
I mean I guess there are, because nobody knew she
was going to pull them across the last week, But
I just mean that like defenses and game plans, like
you couldn't scout her more if you tried, right, Like
every team she's playing knows what they're going up against,
and she's going out and scoring four goals. Like it's
just it's loungers. I don't have like a better word
(32:03):
for it. She's just this. The seal there is sort
of unmatched. I think we haven't seen anybody sort of
as good or doing that, like maybe when Alex Carpenter
was doing that at BC is like the best I
could comp I could come up with at the moment.
But yeah, I it's it's that nobody is surprised by
(32:23):
this and she's still kind of doing it as well.
That just leaves me sort of speechless when you watch her,
it's just it all looks so effortless. And I think
she's having a ton of fun, which helps. She's the
type of player that like needs that freedom and enjoy
is being a menace and also enjoys, like I mean,
(32:45):
I think everybody enjoying what I just I think she's
she's at her best when she is is happy and
loving the game and they're winning and it's this much fun.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
That's gonna be fun to watch in the Olympics too.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Right, that this was not just a a Minnesota thing,
because she was doing this at the rivalry series as well,
so this is not necessarily limited to college. This is
something I think she could really give a boost to
the US team if.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I remember correctly, with the US and they were playing
really well together. I think it helps when you have
two sort of very taled to creative people. I think
they feed off each other really well.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Sure not to be outdone. Last week, Joy Done scored
four times State stop it. Oh sorry, I wasn't even
thinking that honestly, but then it came out and like,
oh crap, seven to four Ohio State over Minnesota State
on Friday in man Cato and Joy Dunn scores four
times and Ohio State got this sweep the next day
(33:53):
with a four to one win. These are okay, So
we've talked about about two players and be gone for
a few weeks starting not this weekend coming up, but
the next week. So I'm interested in your thoughts on
like teams are. Yeah, we're we're ohiose stage Wisconsin Minnesota
(34:19):
are gonna be left in a week knowing that, Okay,
so next next week, not this coming week, but next
week Wisconsin plays at Minnesota the following weekend, ohiose the
plays at Wisconsin. So those are these games that we've
expected and we know are going to be great, you know,
regardless of who's on the ice or not on the ice.
But there's gonna be something missing in a lot of those.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Well I wanted to double check. So I just been
looked in. Like for Ohios three, No. Four, two, four
of their top six scorers are going to be at
the Olympics right till the spense enjoy done Sai von
Hahnen and mere Uniker. That's so it's not just talking
about joy done right, like it's it's that that's a
(35:01):
large portion of what Ohio State has been able to
do this year. I think they're probably going to be
the most tested in terms of meeting the rest of
the roster to stand up to step up. But I also, like,
I don't have a doubt that those players are capable.
It's just whether or not they sort of do it
in the in the way that the team needs right, Like,
it's not always easy when to take on that completely
(35:23):
new role. I think the bonus for Wisconsin is that
like essentially their their lines are leaving in mass and
so it's not pieces going. But like, I don't know
if that's that's one way I look at it, like
it would be easier to like not replace one person
on your line, but to just like move the second
line up right. Also, they who had a spectacular weekend. Lacy,
(35:48):
even since not making the US roster, has been I think,
extra motivated to show some stuff. But yeah, I think
I don't know, we none of us know. I'm just hypothesizing,
but it does seem like it might be easier. Who knows.
I don't have an answer, but it feels like it
feels like Ohio State is going to struggle from the
(36:11):
the volume of players in their top scory. And I
think Minnesota is going to struggle because it's Abbie Murphy.
And I think it's not just Abby the goalscorer Abby
the playmaker, but I think her personality drives a tonne
of what they do and also just her creativity. I
think she's a player that elevates everybody around her, and
when things are when you're back to do a quarter,
(36:31):
when things are not working or whatever, I think Abby
is the person that that helps them.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Get out of that.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
So and for Wisconsin, who knows. I just what do
you when you talk about so many players leaving, I
think it's impossible to replace KK Harvey. So the idea
of even talking book somebody taking that role, it seems hilarious.
What are your thoughts on and but that first.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
We can talk about KK Harvey, Leila Edwards, Kristen Simms, Adela.
All we won, but they're losing their starting goalie and
Navid McNaughton, and they have not her more. It's only
played a couple of games as a freshman, and so.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Her some of these non conference kens, what do you
why are you not playing rise? Like every time her
lineup came out when they were playing somebody, like even
at the holidays. She doesn't need experience.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
She played that stone Hill game that ended up with
seventeen to two or whatever it was. She's played a
third period of a game. I feel like she was
in another one. But yeah, and so her first opportunity
then is going to be, hey, go play at Ritter
against good Luck you know the golfers, Yeah, double checkings.
(37:58):
I don't know. I understand, all right, Like they're very
different goalies, right, I understand the when you have Avian
McNaught on your roster, you player kind of mentality that
knowing you're gonna be with her without her for a
month player and the ones that you do have her for.
(38:18):
But I it really does open up the like the
second guessing of if that month does not go well
in goal, what has happened with that decision?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
So we know wiscon also like you're doing that, but
also have you know like now you're doing that and
not always super solid second and third defensive line, right,
I don't know. Yeah, usually every time roster came out
in a game where you were like, okay, what's continent handle?
That's fine? Why is Aba mcnatton facing the seven shots?
(38:55):
I I really think Lord knows who speak who's questioning
Mark Johnson?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
And yet I'm just like you no understand these There's
there's a that's a very valid point of like, Okay,
he's he's usually made the right decision, so.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Well, I don't think I've smarter than then, so clearly
I'm in the wrong, But it just it feel it
feels not great.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, well that's one of those we're going to have
to see because if it goes well, he Obviously she's
there for a reason. I mean, she's.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
She does, but she's also been sitting for a year,
and just I don't I think that she will handle
things fine, like from a like stop a shot that comes.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Out in this sort of situation.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
But there's all the other things that you just like
you said, playing in ridder and all that sort of
stuff that I just feel like alonged her to find
some of that comfort and not have essentially like your
first started because playing Stonehill wasn't even in a college bar.
So yeah, I don't know, Dick Seeds. It's head scratching,
(40:02):
let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Okay, One more result I wanted to get to before
we take a break, Merrimac beating Yukon to one overtime
last Friday, Avery Anderson scoring the overtime goal after Emma
Feffer equalized with just under six minutes to play. There,
Yukon thirty seven to seventeen in shots on goal, but
can't get that to equal A victory doesn't really cost
(40:27):
the Huskies in the NPI, still fifth there, so it's
more a could be a speed bump for them. We
will see, but it definitely was one of those oh yes,
for sure when it came over on Friday.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah, I think two time will tell. I think on
this whether it was a bump in the road or
a bigger speed bump than we need to worry about.
But I think one of the big things that was
sort of a topic conversation at the eighteens this week
was the idea of like needing to go through adversity,
whether that is going down a goal or losing, like
that can come in a bunch of different ways, but
(41:05):
like you don't know how you're going to react to
that sort of stuff until you're in it. And I
think it's good to win or lose a couple of
games and be in some type of situations these DIY mean,
but like put thirty seven shots on goal and score once, right,
you said two to one, yes, and like learn from
that because that's the only way, Like you don't want
(41:26):
to be in that situation in an elimination game. So
I think it sort it can't be overstated how important
that is, particularly sort of when we're talking obviously this
is teenagers at you eighteen, but like don't forget the
college kids are still young too, you know. I think
sometimes particularly with some of these schools, we talk about
them like they're professionals and they are not. And so, yeah,
(41:49):
I assume that this is one of those smack on
the back of the head, what were you doing, learn
from that and move on sort of situations. I trust
that that's the case for Yukon, but I guess I
will wait and see.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yes, just one more mentioned before we go. Holy Cross
up the number fourteen in the us cho dot com
poll this week, also fourteenth in the NPI after beating
BU four to two on Saturday. Holy Cross sixteen seven
and one on the season. So this is a another
one of those you know where we didn't we were not? Yeah, right,
(42:27):
but it does feel like a little bit of the
you know, Hockey East seeming to put in a team
that we weren't expecting every year to one in the
top spots.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Taking some of those points. And I like that they're not.
I mean, holy Cross isn't a team that puts a
ten of goals in the net overall normally, and so
like a four to two wins is a good solid
They're not eating these out, is basically what I'm saying.
And I think it's good to see that they're not
you know, winning one of the games, but they're they're
really like putting together an offense, which is nice.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, another quick break, and then we will talk about
the bean Pot third place and championship coming up Tuesday night,
and the other other games that are coming up on
the schedule in NCAA Women's hockey. Stay with us on
the podcast. Welcome back to the podcast, Todd and Nicole.
(43:23):
To wrap things up this week. Bean Pot Tuesday championship
game coming up this week, Harvard will play Boston University
for the championship seven thirty eastern on Tuesday, after Boston
College and Northeastern have the third place game at four
to thirty eastern. Again, these games at TD Garden, which
we hope, like we mentioned last week, we'll have a
(43:44):
a good crowd to cheer this one on. It was
cool seeing that last season Harvard and BU again just
saw this happen in Belfast, and these are teams that
gonna need to win their conference tournament to go anywhere
(44:05):
in the postseason, going to need to build up some
results before then to really even have any thought of that.
I would think a bean Pot championship could mean a
little bit in that that effort, I would think, and
justin having some good feelings as you're going in the
really the last month of the regular season.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Yeah, agreed, And I think it can't be understated, like
how big a jump this is for Harvard after having
you know, they won two games last year, they were
two twenty five and two, and right now they're ten,
ten and one and playing for.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
The Bean bought championship, from a team morale position, from
a recruiting position, Like, there's just a lot that is
positive about this from Harvard. And I think we've talked about,
you know, some of their wins and maybe we weren't expecting,
like no, we really weren't sure what to expect from
this team. So you know, they won one conference team
(45:00):
last year, so good for them to really be have
a bounce back here and and sort of keep doing it,
you know, like you said, they're still going to have
to do a lot to be talking postseason, but I
think it's a huge, huge change from last year and
that's hard to doing one year. So good for them.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Right this Saturday and Sunday, Northeastern and Yukon have a
home and home. Can I don't know if you can
recall that anymore. Northeastern doesn't have a home, so can
you call it a home and home series? Anyway? It's
at Yukon on Saturday, and Northeastern is hosting Yukon Sunday
at Bentley's Arena. So that's there a home of Connecticut
(45:41):
of the week. No, it's in it's in the Boston.
People are gonna tell me I'm wrong, But waltam I
think so somewhere in the greater Greater Boston area I believe,
which still could be No, but it's it's within more
within range of of Northeastern than Yukon. So yeah, So
(46:04):
but this is the These are the two teams that
are you know, ranked the highest in Hockey East. A
couple of teams that we know are you know, have
had have had their bumps in the last couple of weeks.
So I if either of these teams can come out
with two wins, that's a massive result.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah. I would say even a win and a tire
winning an extra top, you know, like a majority of
the points. I think it has to be the goal here. Yeah,
it'll be really interesting and we don't necessarily often get
step back to back Hocky East spreads out their games
a lot more and so kind of fun that we've
got this home and Suita home. Like a lot is
(46:43):
decided for this conference out of this like likely out
of this weekend, so that'll be it's a lot going on.
I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Northeastern six points ahead of Yukon in the Hockey East standings,
both having played fourteen conference games. So that's that's your
gap one weekend's game, and so if Yukon can can
win both of them in regulation, that's that's a tie
at the top of the standing. Switch would make that
a real fun next couple of weeks here as they
(47:13):
kind of you know, position against each other without playing
each other.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Then yeah, and then they play each other the last
weekend of the regular season. They play Friday, February twentieth.
So a lot going on here in the final weeks.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
On the on the flip side, Northeast you can almost
kind of take a stranglehold on the conference if they
win all six points there. So so obviously a lot,
a lot going on in that Saturday Sunday series. A
lot going on in Cornell's world this weekend, number twelve
Cornell playing at number seven Princeton Friday and at number
(47:48):
six Quinnipiac on Saturday. So there's your your test of
the week for a for an ECAC team is going
on the road to play those two teams. You have
to love a challenge. But back to back with with
with those two teams this season is is a lot.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
It is, yeah, and sort of some different styles different
Like I it's a tough back to back to prepare
for in a couple of different ways. And Cornell is
is maybe not quite as bad as is um D,
but as a team that just has to be a
head scratching in terms of I don't know what to
expect from them week to week or what I want
(48:31):
to be looking for them to do. So I don't
have any like I'm glad I'm not prognosticating what's gonna
happen there because I'm just like, I don't, I don't
know it will it would. I believe that Cornell has
the worywithal to go and really do something with those
two games this weekend, but it at all, it all
would not surprise me the other way around. And so yeah,
(48:53):
that's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, And in the the w c h A, Minnesota
looks for its first win of twenty twenty at Minnesota
State man Cato. At Minnesota State in man Cato. I
should say a couple of teams that that really could
use a positive Yeah, you know, there's been positive points.
(49:16):
I mean d Luth want to shootout against Wisconsin two
weeks ago. Minnesota State has been right there in with
obviously had the sweep of Minnesota earlier this season, but
of late it's been a rougher go good good vibes
would be appreciated on both of these sides.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, you know, d Luth needs those points more for
their season, But yeah, I I Minnesota State is a
team that I think when they really are clicking and
when they really believe that they like when they're really
hyped and all pumps together, are a really tough team.
But I'm not sure how often all of those pieces
click at the same time, And so I think that's
(49:58):
where it's going to be if they can and sort
of really settle in and play the game they want
to play, or you know, depending on what d Luth
team shows up. I guess.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
D Luth is kind of on an island in the
WHA standings right now, in fourth place. There are fifteen
points behind third place Minnesota and ten points ahead of
fifth place Minnesota State. So this and then you look
further down Minnesota State, Saint Cloud State tied for fifth.
That's seventeen points, Saint Thomas a point back at sixteen.
(50:31):
So that's gonna be an interesting race to follow, just
as much as the racer first is. I've got Wisconsin
three points ahead of Ohio State, who is two points
ahead of Minnesota. A lot to be decided there, but
I mean, the luth Is feels like kind of locked
into that four spot and unless something it was massively
(50:53):
right or massively wrong, right, I mean there's a there's
a chance of that, you know swinging, you know, after
a few weeks, but it does kind of feel like
they're they're heading towards another fourth place finish in the
RAJA interesting and uh so.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Putting themselves closer to you, um D and also giving
them breathing room behind them like it's a big week
and bigger weekend from Minnesota State than maybe it initially looked.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah, absolutely, okay, Nicole, I know you need some sleep.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, we should shout out the PWHL takeover tour in
Washington d C the D one and D C program
tournament do well, and they set a new US record
for attendance at that game. I know, I have absolutely
no idea how many tickets were sold for t D
guard for the bean Pot, but I know that people
(51:45):
have been talking about wanting that to be able to
set a record there, So I guess we'll see what
those numbers look like on Tuesday. But yeah, it's been
a good week for for women's hockey looking looking pretty
good on a national scale and Washington, DC, shir did
make a pretty big statement for we should have a team,
So shout out to everybody there. It felt like everybody
I knew in my feed was at that game. I had,
(52:06):
I had some uh some forum all of that, and yeah,
between that and the big crowd here it was. It
was a fun weekend for that. So I hope TV
gardens rocking as well. I hope everybody shows up for
them in Boston.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
All right, you can make sure to follow those scores,
stats standings at us h O dot com. And Nicole
will have a wrap up after the weekend as always,
and we will be back next week for another edition
of the podcast. For Nicole, I'm Todd, we'll see that
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