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March 23, 2024 • 61 mins
Daniel Kish is an expert in human echolocation. He serves as the President of World Access for the Blind (WAFTB), a California-based nonprofit that he founded in 2000. Through WAFTB, Kish and acquaintances work with unsighted and blind children across the globe--since its establishment in 2000, they have taught 500 kids the art of echolocation as a means of moving through the world. Kish, whose story gained traction after he was featured on an NPR recording, underwent surgery at just 13 months old to remove his eyes, a result of having eye cancer. He holds master's degrees in developmental psychology and special education. 

Tristan was first introduced to Daniel Kish through the soundwaves of an NPR podcast episode. The story of the real-life "Batman" lodged itself in his psyche, imprinting onto his subconscious--his thoughts often turned back to the blind boy mentioned, the one who taught himself echolocation, who maneuvers through the world in a unique and genuine way. Years later, at a meditation retreat in Alberta, Canada, the two met face-to-face. It was a strange coincidence--that a Vermonter and a Californian should find themselves together in Canada, engaging with each other in such a way. Tristan soon realized that his new friend was none other than the blind Batman he'd admired for so long, and invited Daniel to visit his homestead in Brattleboro, where they discussed the ins-and-outs of echolocation, Daniel's work with blind youth, a PhD thesis proposal, and subverting others' expectations of perceived limitations. 

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Music: Produced by Turner Andrasz, beat-boxing by Felix Roberts, guitar by Tristan Roberts, drums by Merrill Garbus
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