Episode 267- Sinners Movie Review

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Speaker 3 (01:33):
Dutch? What's good?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
What's good. It's good. It's good. So before we get
into today's episode, any updates or anything that you would
like to share with the people.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
What my nix is in round two of the playoffs?
Really yeah, but it was a richeral to all gods.
I told once you to follow this real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Just follow me, Okay, I could be tweaking by no
on on tweekend.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Follow me real quick.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
So the Knicks versus the Pistons, their final game was one,
sixteen to one, thirteen to three digit gap. The Knicks
beat them in the series four games to two, that's six.

(02:33):
They played on May one, five one, that's six. The
game before because they had to go. They had lost
one game the opposite, the Knicks loss by three mhm
and everything.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
But I just thought that that was interesting that the
four to two, the date, the score, you know what
I mean. Yeah, it was a lot of sixes popping
up in my view.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
So yeah, but the Knicks is up though, Okay, no,
And now the Knicks is going against the Celtics, and
I'm just interested in real interesting que they Yeah, uh,
we're getting we're getting cooked right now, sixty four to

(03:31):
seventy five.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
And the third quarter.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
But that's expected because it's home court Celtics, So it's okay.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
But so I'm not really like a big sports fan.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I could really go crazy with numerology on sports if
I wanted to, like deep dive into that shit. But
when the Knicks is winning, I just have like little
corn predictions like the Celtics, you know, whatever, better team,
blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Right, but let's say if the Knicks was just a
win the whole thing, right, Trump is president, got all
that property in Manhattan, you know what I mean? The
Knicks winning a chip is like, oh my god, you
know what I mean, It's a big deal, Like because
these sports teams a businesses. They're not just a team

(04:18):
that represents the city. This is a whole corporation here,
you know. Yeah, this ship is like a multi billion
dollar corporation over here.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
So you know, I don't know, this is something about.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
It that I feel like it could be a it
could be a happening on some hopeful Knicks fan fandom,
you know what I mean. Yeah, it's been fifty years,
I believe since the Knicks winner championship, So you know, yeah,
that's where I'm at. Though, okay, uh as for other

(04:53):
random news, I ain't really got much. We can kind
of get into know the episode that you got something.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I just came across a story where this white mother
somewhere in Minnesota, I guess Rochester, Minnesota. She like pretty
much like calls a five year old five year old
autistic black child the M word. And there was like
another black man more specifically to eat the Opian or

(05:25):
Somali man, one of them, you know, he called her
out on it and recorded her she ain't give a
fuck or whatever. And then I guess, after you know,
the video spread on social media or whatever, she's going
to start like a whole goal fundme to raise money
to protect her. And she raised I think over five

(05:48):
hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, it's crazy share protect her from I don't know,
scary black people or the law like she might Why
she gotta be pretty.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Just because she's ugly that she will get no love
in white.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Is Listen, don't ask me. This bitch is whack as fuck,
all right, she's whack. This fucking what what Jasmine Kropp said,
bleach blonde, bad built bitch. She ain't bad built a
regular bitch is child.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Regular child child. That's crazy. I was thinking it was
gonna be something like super got to do.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
With it, So everything else I said didn't matter. You
were just asking about how this bitch look. So everything
else I ask.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
To look will equate to the money raised. Now that's
what I was That's what I was reaching for. But
and I'm just looking at she's just some regular Okay.
Now it's just some racial ship at this point, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
But a it could be some stage, it could be staged,
it could be real. Let's say it is real. Let's
say she really didn't make a God fund me and
she really did raise that money. That's hilarious on some
real life ship, Like wow, people are really just you know,
some interesting characters out here.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, and then some of the names of the people
who donate, it's like hate niggers, but instead of saying like,
you know, niggers, whatever do it? You know, they switch
the lettering and ship like yeah, like I don't know, y'all. Honestly,
the spirit of your motherfuckers is really it's like really manifesting,

(07:33):
like it's coming out again, Like your true nature is
really showing right now. Because these are the days. These
are the last days anyway, like your real nature all
that little Oh you know, I'm not racist. I don't.
I don't see color. YadA, YadA, y'all young niggas. MM,
the true nature of y'all is really coming out. Y'all

(07:54):
really are fucking crashing out right now, you're crashing out.
I think it's just discussing. Like you said, if it's staged,
I don't know. If it's not staged, I think it's nasty.
I have a niece that's autistic, right, so I guess
what she wanted to claim is that the autistic child
like took her son's went in her bag or something

(08:17):
and took her son's toy and broke it or did something.
If anybody knows anybody who has autistic children, you know
that some people depending on the spectrum, because it's a spectrum,
like the high functioning ones and then you have the
ones who are not or whatever. Sometimes it'll just randomly
try to like I don't know, like you know what

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I'm saying, touch other people's things or something. You know
what I'm saying Dutch, like like we're waiting too long
in a restaurant. May you try to go and get
somebody else's drink off their table. It's crazy, but that's.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
What happens, not crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I'm I'm not saying I'm not calling them crazy. They
have this condition, yeah, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Saying that's not even crazy, Like that's something I feel
like a little kid would just do in a restaurant anyways,
say someone had like a little kid was just running
around the restaurant.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
They just did some I wouldn't do nothing like that.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
You know, not everybody's kids is quote unquote well behaved,
but you would see like a this is clearly your
child that is just doing something and it's sense not
knowing nothing from nothing type shit.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
You know what I mean? Yeah, something worth crashing out
for the children.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Who are not verbal either, so like they can't even
communicate like exactly you know what's going on or why
they might have done that? Right, So yeah, like I
take it personally because I just know I've seen it firsthand.
Like how like you know a childmate do and they're
very smart, but it's just like little quirks that they have,
you know what I mean, Yeah, because of the sensory

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issues or whatever they're going through. And me like I
will always stand by the ships from the vaccines. Yeah
is what it is, like, it really is. So Yeah,
I think that's fucked up because the baby, especially the baby,
it's a baby first, and then the baby's autistic. That's
another thing. So it's like two things. So she ain't ship.

(10:10):
The niggas who donated, they ain't ship. And they still
up in they feelings about the Carmelo Anthony thing. Get
the fuck over it, you, y'all some real hypocritsis.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
I don't see nobody talking about that.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
They are talking about it in comparison to this white bitch.
They're like, oh, but y'all could fucking raise money for
Carmelo Anthony. He murdered Austin Metcalf, so they y' all
talking about it in comparison, y'all can really him.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
White people trying Again, these are two social media fueled.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Things right now, and it's crazy how one is the
opposite of the other.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Nah, I'm like, decided to be blatantly racist.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I want to see this in real life. I want
to see some.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Real life and calling and we're in it. You know
this this nigga shit right because you got you got
rappers out there who are encouraging their white fans to,
you know, say nigga. You know what I mean, I
want them to black rappers, black artists. They are encouraging

(11:12):
this ship. Granted, if you go to the festivals and ship,
they probably all singing the lyrics, all these people sowing
and nigga ended up, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Trinity Dad, Trinida Dad James probably had it going crazy
at the time.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
All the white kids nigga, nigga, nigga. I'm sure that,
I'm sure it was. I'm sure if.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
And white chicks plead this nigga fifty nigga? What what?
Oh you can't say that? Why nobody's around? And then
they play this ship, that crazy nigga for the.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Sick people.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
But really that's real. So like that white bodies around,
who cares? Nah, something like bring that energy to real life,
Like bring that shit to real life, because this is
not the time of our grandparents and great grandparents. Ain't
no fucking Martin Luther King turning the other cheek writing
down on the fucking greyhound buses, doing with the snick

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organizations and letting niggas spit on you do all kinds
of shit. That's not our fucking generation. Niggas will be
getting fucking killed in the fucking streets. And I'm pretty
sure these niggas down here in the South, when with
you all carrying shit, y'all got all yell little guns
on y'all hips, y'all better not let that shit fly
right right, because in New York, niggas is.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Fuck out of here. That's all I got to say.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
That shit is not flying. Like I said, I just
want that shit to happen in real life. I wonder
if she would have had that same energy. How she
had a black lady that was talking to her, you
know what I'm saying, you know, because some women are like, oh, man,
ain't gonna touch me. And she had a baby in
her arm. But it's just like, y'all, y'all don't even

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understand y'all. Niggas don't even know the time is coming
for y'all. It's gonna be so bad. Y'all thought what
the fuck y'all did to us was terrible. Y'all don't
even know what the funck y'all about to go through.
And we're not gonna be the ones to do it
to you. That's the crazy thing. That's the beard that
y'all live in. I literally seen somebody coming like, oh

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literally admitting that they're fearful that they that were going
to do the exact same thing that they did to us. No,
she's gonna happen to you, but it ain't gonna be us.
It's gonna be the most high. But other than that,
that's all I got. I'm sure there's more stuff going on.
Probably another fucking plane and fell out of skuy who knows,
you know, but special if I look that shit up
right now, something gonna happen. But other than that, though,

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you know, I was capping, but that literally was. I
just typed something that there was literally a small plane
crash and semi valley.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, you know, I said, the small ones probably
happened often. When they be talking, they be talking about
commercial to my planes was sixty eighty one hundred, and.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
They said, elegant it was snakes on a plane. I'm
not making this shit up. It's said alligators, snakes biting insects,
small plane crash and look thirty six hour ordeal three
six What did.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
I tell y'all guys?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
But that was in Bolivia, Bolivia. Oh, that's Bolivia. That's
another that's a whole other thing. So you had something
that happened on Bolivia, and then you had something that
happened in Simi Valley. I don't think it was snakes
on the plane. I'm just I'm just thinking about the movie.
Go ahead, say the Samuel Jackson line, what God of

(14:44):
these goddamn snakes and these goddamn.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Means to sack?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Okay, I'm done, guys. Nah, I just I just typed
it in and I've seen a whole bunch of different plane,
you know, incidents. So, like I said, I don't even
gotta look it up. There's gonna be something new every day.
All right, You ready to get into today's episode. Yes,
this is episode two sixty seven, and the title of

(15:14):
this show is called Sinners Movie Review.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
The Senters movie review.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Sinaers Movie Review. So me and Dutch, we did go
see the film Sinners, Okay. Sinners is a twenty twenty
five American horror film. It was written and co produced
and directed by Ryan Coogler. Now, I don't really know
who this man was, but he is responsible for a

(15:40):
lot of different movies, producing, directing. He actually played a
major part in the Black Panther, So that's what's up.
And he was also responsible for I think Michael B.
Jordan's first like breakout role for films, Fruitvale.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Station, huh to Creed.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah he did Creed too. Yeah. So okay, I ain't
really know his name, but niggas know his name now,
you know. So we went to go see the film
and we're gonna share our thoughts. Everybody's talking about this shit,
you know, so it's really saturated. This is something we
was gonna do regardless though. This is this is up

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our alley, this is something that we do on our podcast.
So it's like we was gonna touch this film regardless.
But it's just kind of annoying when it's like super oversaturated.
Like it's really saturated right now, so many different people
talking about this damn film. But you know, we're gonna
give our two cents. So to start it off, Dutch,
how would you rate this movie out of five stars?

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Five?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
A five? Okay, I would rate it a four four
point six, three four or five seven. That's all I'm
gonna rate mine. What did you like about the film.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
I like the way the music kind of went with things.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
I like I like how they started it off, Like
I was like, just off of first watch, wasn't expecting
it to start off like they're like, you know, dudes
walking into the church all bloody. Like they started off
at the end and then showed us what happened before,
which is something most movies and I guess have I

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don't really think about it, but it's the way they
did it, you know what I mean. Because I wasn't
expecting the.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Whole vampire gory aspect to pop up, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I was like, Oh, okay, okay, so you went into
this not really knowing what the movie was about at all.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Of course I know what the movie is about that
I never seen.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
You look at the preview and then you see what
it's like.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh I probably barely seen a preview, don't I tell you.
I wasn't paying attention to shit.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
So that's what I'm saying, Yeah, be smart.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Oh my bad.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I ain't know that to that aspect yet, And I
didn't know about none of that. I just know Michael B.
Jordan had a movie out. I've seen a couple of
pictures of him on the Red Corporate. When the drop
type shit, I was like, okay, but people the.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Fact that it was gonna have some vampires in it.
But you know, that's what I knew.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
So you just knew that.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
You ain't know nothing, you.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Like just went and watching it. I think you know
doing like that folks. It's like, you know, of course
you gotta have a preview or something. But I feel
like even in previews, they should really give like the
least to throw off, you know, people about what something
could be about it like helps open and imagination.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, I like the bare minimum, give us just enough,
just to just.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Enough to make you like, ooh, I gotta see this,
but not like a one name plot of this whole thing,
which was, like you said, like you already knew that
about this band empire thing.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I think that they did show. I never watched the preview.
I just seen that other people started to talk about
and it's like, oh, this is up our alley, this
is something that we would like, and so I was like, okay,
they just mentioned briefly like oh, you know this really
shows nature and white people and oh this is like
the vampires and all this other craft. I was like, okay,
let's check this shit out or whatever. But I think

(19:23):
in the previews, it does show a little stuff like
I think you see that certain people turned or things
like that, Like so I don't know, but it still
worked out. I don't really like it when movies give
stuff away either.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, but we're here.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
We're going to talk about the movie straight through as
if everybody's seen it already. So if you haven't seen
it and you don't want to hear.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Us talk about it, then you know, switch the channel
or go to another episode. Matter of fact, of think
we listen the Visionary podcast, so we have over two
hundred of them, but.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
We're spoiler alerts, so don't get up.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Through your feelings.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, but if you you know, if you don't, you
don't really care, if you just want to listen to us.
You had about it in a different type of way
because a lot of people that was talking about it
really missed a.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Lot of like and I don't want to I don't
want to spoil it. Yeah, and I don't want to
say that they didn't have good opinions. So they did.
They're pointing out a lot of stuff that I didn't
even notice too.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
But it's a lot of it's a certain things that
they just just like completely missing you know what I mean,
or missing the point of.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, you kind of have to walk through the entire film.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
There's people out there that said they didn't like it,
you know, but I can't tell, you know, I can't
tell people's lack and not.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Like I feel like people who didn't like it probably
didn't understand what they watched.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Did they give reasons why they didn't like it?

Speaker 3 (20:45):
They did. It was like, you know, they didn't really
see the hype of it or whatever. It was like
it was just another they know, they don't like stay
for removies. Now I understand that, you.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Know, but it's not a slavery to me.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
It wasn't a stave of removie.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, it was based in that era, Jim, But you know,
they feel like you know, and I understand too, because
they always have to have that and that's always like
a top seller. Like again, niggas want to keep holding
on to the trauma and the sort of speak, even
though the movie was put in a whole other light,

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but it was still in that era. And then things
always seem to prosper within the black community for some reason.
It's like we glamorized that era and let them just
like make almost a not a mockery, but they want
to play with it for story times and profit.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
So I feel like it's not this is a black
man who created this. First of all, this is not
no white man.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
They have a full black team from the cameramen down
to the editors.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I don't know, But does that matter. He's the creator
of it, y'all talking like this to some other white
Jewish creation or whatever.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
You can put a name on something all day, you
know what I mean? Remember remember keeping in mind that
all these films have to get ran through the Pentagon
before they even get put to the public.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I understand that, but I don't really understand the frustration.
It really just sounds I'm saying, like when people say
these things, because it's like, yeah, we okay. When it's
like twelve years of Slave and all this other shit,
I'm seeing I can see people tired of it. But
when it comes to things like this movie, or like
even shit, what's it called Amazon series? Them with Little

(22:42):
Marvel with Little Marvin did that's still same a little
bit sped up, right, It's like the the fifties of
what it's like, more like the civil rights era. But
I don't care. It's really showing the fucking history and
the evil of fucking these people. I don't I don't
get tired of that when they do it in a
certain way, when it's Black people that is integrating the

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truth into it, versus just showing us getting fucking lynched
and hanging. And that's it. Like twelve Years of Slave.
I've never seen twelve Years Slave. I'm just throwing that
out there, you know what I mean. Like those type
of movies, to me, is way different than them Amazon
series or this movie Centers. It's really showing layers like

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of how evil these fucking people are. We're gonna get
into it. Niggas can get offended or not. And that's
really what the theme is. It's more so shiitt in
the light on the evil, wickedness of a certain group
of people. That's how I look at it, and I
don't give a fuck. We're like, we're not gonna sit
here and sweep our history under the rug because that's
what white people want us to do now. They want

(23:46):
us to just say fuck it, move forward. You guys
are victims. Let's not like they don't.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
They want us to just abandon everything. They don't want
to teach black history in schools. They don't want the
new generation of these fucking people to sit here and
know the truth. They want to keep talking about white guilt.
No fuck out of here. Y'all know what y'all do.
Y'all know what y'all continuously doing to this day. Look
at this, if that, if that incident is true, right,

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you have a white bitch being nasty as fuck to
a baby, a black autistic baby. I like the fucking
niggas tired of. So they what they want to see.
I'm confused.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
I don't know what people want to see, but you know,
it comes to movies.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Just people out there who just don't care for the
post slavery, after slavery, within slavery. It is a constant
theme in a lot of movies outside of the few
that you did name, just a lot of them. It's
a strong list of them, you know what I mean.
And some of them are good movie. Some of them
are just more trauma movies.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Is it trauma? Why is it trauma when it's truth?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Like yeah, but it's like it's the same story that.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
We sinners was not the same?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
No, no, no, no, no, not Sinners, I'm talking about other movies.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Well, that's why I understand why that person would compare it,
because it's not the same.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
And I get it. But everybody'sn't try to say opinion.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
You know, that person is.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
And there's a lot of people who feel like that
about the about the slavery stuff. It's not just one person.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
But that's outside of any I've seen, Like, like, outside
of the most positive comments that I've seen, I've also
seen reviews of people leaving me. I want to call
it a negative, but they were just stay in their
opinion about certain things that they didn't like, and it's okay,
that's all fine and dandy anyway. So the movie, it
starts off as we know pointed out as in the
Jim Crow era, Nigs is.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Saventeen thirty to Delta, Mississippi.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Right Meigs is somewhere free, but you know, some people
are still choosing to be slaves. Hence Savory was a
choice later on at least, you know what I mean.
Let's see. So, yeah, Mississippi. Two brothers. What's the names?

Speaker 2 (26:09):
So the main characters played by Michael B.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Jordan.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
He's playing two twins, Elijah and Elias. Also known as
Smoke and Stack. So Elijah is Smoke and Elias is Stack.
And the cool thing is that, you know their name
actually is the same meaning it's just one is Hebrew
and one is Greek. So that's that. We're gonna get
into the different symbolisms and stuff like that. But you know,

(26:35):
we're just gonna walk through the story and we're just
gonna talk about it. We're gonna we're gonna plug what
we took from it in some of the symbolisms. So, yeah,
Elijah and Elias, but Smoke and Stack, right.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
And they from they also from Mississippi. But the movie,
the movie starts off with the young boy.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
His name is Sammy.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Sammy Sammy plays the guitar, a preacher boy, preacher boy.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
And he's the first cousin to Smoke and Stack.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
He's their first cousin.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
They their fathers are brothers.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
So starts off with him, you know, all bloody, scratched up,
broken guitar in his hand. He's walking into a church
just who's.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
At his father.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
His father is a preacher.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
His father was preaching, like you know, they go, my
boy and just come here and just just just it
was just a deep scene.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Right, let the drop the guitar, drop the guitar.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Then the movie starts, you know, and they showed this
whole story of what led to this, and it's a
great story. I don't want to sit here in story
time the whole thing. I want to kind of like
just get into, like the symbols of certain things walking
into at the beginning.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
So they what was like the first thing? What happened?
They came back to town.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
So yeah, so Elijah, well, smoking stack, I'm gonna say
smoking stack, smoking stack. They coming back from Chicago. So
they're kind of like criminals, like they too, like criminal brothers,
like they some some gangsters. You know.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
One is wearing red, one is wearing blue. Yeah, all
that blood and crip.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Let's stop right here, democrats.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Let's let's break this down. So to me, the twins
definitely represent duality, all right. So it's like light in darkness,
life and death, ordering chaos. That's what these two are giving,
even in their temperaments a little bit. They're very different,
all right, and we're gonna break into the differences. But

(28:41):
like Dudge said, the red and blue that's duality too.
We can say bloods and crips, Democrats Republicans. The colors
red and blue often symbolize like two contrasting like energies,
like some say like passion and calm. Red is often
associated with like strength, while blue is more like calm, stable, trustworthy,

(29:05):
things like that. So the two twins, right, they have
different temperaments. How would you describe smoke. Smoke is the
one that's like the blue and he's the one with
the black woman, and Stack is the one in the
red and he's the one with the white woman.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, Smoke, Smoke kind of reminded me of myself.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
And came around to like, you know, like just organizing
and getting certain things done.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
When he was trying to like do something, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, like he was really like, I mean, they both
was military or believe it was just militant. I would say,
these niggas were sharp shooters. But outside oh that, maig,
guys just came from them being gangsters and shit. But
outside of that, the shooting aspects, just the way he
was moving throughout the movie was like, you know, things
had a reasoning. You know, there was always money as
a bargain, you know, to get some shit done. You know,

(30:01):
you go into certain areas to get certain shit, don't
have a certain level of respect with certain people, you
know what I mean? Yeah, right, yeah, and then you
know they was cool.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
But yeah. Also in Renaissance Europe, red and blue it's
like extensively used in religious paintings where the red symbolizes
sin and the blue represents heaven. So I think that's
interesting being that when you watch the movie, you see
the demise of Stack, who's in the red right, and Smoke,

(30:35):
who's in the blue. So, like I said, red symbolizing
sin the movie is called Sinners, and then blue representing heaven.
We're gonna talk about, you know, the demise of both characters.
But you see the duality here. There's even like ancient mythology,
like in Mesopotamia they had divine twins god Shamash and

(30:58):
Sin representing the sun in the movie, and each twin
had their own distinct attributes. So Shamash is the sun
god symbolizing light, justice and truth, and then Sin the
moon god, representing darkness, mystery, and the passage of time.
So when you think about it, even with these two

(31:18):
characters that Michael B. Jordan's playing, I can clearly see
that clearly they they tapped into some mythology and shit
like that, because it definitely aligned as far as like,
you know, Smoke being a little bit more I guess
the Shamash right deity, and then Sin obviously has to

(31:39):
be Stack right, you know, darkness all this other stuff,
because that's really what happens with these two characters, all right,
So I just think it's interesting. They also say that
Shamash is like illumination and clarity, while Sin provides reflection
and contemplation, all right, So it is like the light

(32:01):
and darkness, you know, and sin also signifies death in
the after life. And so that's clear with the Smoke,
You're not the smoke. The It's clear with the Stack
character being what happens to him because he turns into
a vampire, so he definitely needs a symbol of death, right,
Smoke doesn't turn into a vampire. So that's what I

(32:23):
wanted to say, you know, as far as the duality
with the twins, because hey, you know what I mean,
So go ahead, get back into the story. We're introduced
to the twins that coming back from Chicago, right, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
So yeah, they.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
They purchased a warehouse that was pretty much from what
I gather it used to be it was a slaughter
house pretty much.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
They used to hang slaves in there and kill them
and rape them and do it. Kind of fucked up
shits and slaves in there. I picked that up early
in the film because in the beginning, in the scene
where they great purchased this jew joint, you know, they
threatened the KKK. Then, well, first before they threaten him,
they was talking to him about the spot, and then
it was like, so what used to be you know,

(33:12):
what used to happen here? What was going on in here?
And it was happening on the floor, And then he
gave them like a sarcastic answer. But when he touched
the floor, it like seemed like, you know, you heard
like certain sounds of like whips and screams and shit,
you know what I mean. But the KKK Nigga answered
the shit like, oh, we used to refurnishing on She's
just some stupid shit to him, right.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
The cinematography in this movie is dope because when the characters,
even if they're telling the story, you might hear the past,
the past in the background, you know what I mean.
The background sounds.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Right like you won't see the past, but you'll hear it.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
You'll hear the past. Yeah. So like he said, when
you touched it, you're hearing.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, he touched the floor and then you heard us
like the past of whatever it was there was probably
like said, slaves getting you know, slaughter right than killed
and ship mention and shit, oh that's what used to
happen in this place.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
But the KKK niggadn't tell him that.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, and the KKK Nigga is Hogwood. That's the person
that they bought the juke joint, you know, right.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
The warehouse from.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
So then he said, and he also threatened him and
told him, if you come over here with your clan buddies,
we're gonna kill you. And you know what I'm saying,
he told them straight up. So they left. The guy left,
at least he left inside whatever. Anyway, that was symbolic
because you know, they they bought a place that quote

(34:35):
unquote ancestors used to get you know, murdered in. Yeah,
you know that was very symbolic to begin with. Yeah,
next scene, they kind of they get down to, uh.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Do they introduce us to the vampire? They cut real quick?

Speaker 3 (34:55):
No, no, not yet.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, I don't believe so, but I mean, like sometime
we give them scenes to see go watch the movie.
But maybe I'm talking on to some body. Things I
could think of off the top. They another symbolic situation.
After they get the jew joint the warehouse, they go
down to the city to get some help to get
on get things going for open.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
The night and they get Sammy first.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Ready to get their cousin, and they first, I think first,
but the store owners. So to me, I thought it
was important because people did bring this up to but
you know, they brought this up in different aspects about.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
The Asians being able to get money in our community,
and I thought that was like and I just didn't
know like Asian people was around like that at that time.
But they was the ones that was running the stores,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Hence, while you'll have in some spots a lot of
still Asian owned.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Uh what you call it? What's those spots on? When
you get your clothes clean that cleaners? You know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well, in general, I mean, they're all through our community.
So it's just kind of like showcasing the history of that.
So they it's the characters that he's talking about is
Grace and Yow. They're a married couple. They have a child,
so it's Grace and Yeow child. The husband he owns

(36:22):
a store that's for the blacks only, and then the
wife is running the store for the whites only.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Fucked up.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
So they're just showing how they're kind of like split
in the middle. But what I liked about them showing
the Asian characters is that they really are fucking opportunists.
Now for me, I feel like the husband was more
like I fuck with smoking stack, like you know what
I mean. But the wife was a lot like like
what you see today with these Asians, very opportunists day.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
How much money you got, don't give a fuck about.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Us, just like what's the money? What's the money? That's
really how it is. Just like you go to the
be supply store. They don't know a fuck about you.
They're gonna treat you like he ain't shit, especially if
they think it's.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Hurry up and buy, hurry up and buy break you by. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
So yeah, I thought it was cool that he put
them in there, like to show the history that you know,
there were some immigrants, Chinese immigrants that were coming in
and they you know started off over there in that
area and del Mississippi in the South.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
And right where they they'll go to the red line
and know they inlow black people.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
To own businesses, but the Asian niggas could own the
business and own one in the white and the black community.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, and that was intentional. And that's why they call
these niggas the model minority, you know what I mean.
And like I said, you can't get Caucasian without Asian anyways,
go ahead, go back into the to the story.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
But yeah, but you didn't, you know, and outside of
black people just fucking with Asians as time went by,
they exploit us.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Though they do exploit us, they take.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
On another level, right on another level. You know, the
niggas be fucking with the Asian nigga. These niggas feed
us or they eat they eat rash too, but they
feed niggas rats, you know. But you know it's just
funny how like culturally, like you know it being in
New York on like some so whole heype beast type shit. Right,
the Asian niggas is always in the mix, you know,

(38:11):
with black culture.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
They in the mix. But they are just.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Like exploiting in a way they exploit us.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I know, I'm in the industry. I see you first hand.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
But so they do.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
They go through the business with the Asians to get
the food, to get some signs.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
You know what I mean, get a little promo. They outside.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Next scene, they pulling up to uh they're pulling up
to at a train station, I believe, and they go, fine, well.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
They will see you skipping. Now you skipping because the
top it's another symbol. We got a point at. It's
like before like smoking stack because like what it is
is that they split up, the twins split up a
stack in Sammy they head the train station. It's he's
the one that has handled the business. But before they

(39:03):
did that, they went into like the wilderness because they
had like their their car, like there, you know, there's
stuff stashed. I don't know what it is they got,
Like I think it was like weapons. They had certain
things stashed because they you know, they still they they
thee so I think they had some stolen ship. You know,
it was getting ready for the party. There was a symbol,
there was a there was a scene where a snake
comes out, right, a whole snake comes out, and I

(39:26):
think when of the Twins ends up you know, stabbing
in the head. It's just smoke starting with the sin, right,
we can go back to the beginning with Genesis, right,
Guarden of eating that symbology right there, as far as
Satan the serpent, So that's what they're showing. You know,
that was just that's one of the points that out
because that was also a key part yeah, in the

(39:49):
in the film, right, and they ended up killing it.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, So they go and they said, so you said,
the next group as Stack and Sammon and Preacher Boy,
they go to the train station and they going. They
they recruited.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
This character named Delta Delta Slim, who was played by
de Delroy Lindo. That's his character.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
A lot of people was very excited for Delroy. He's
a good actor, yeah, but it was excited for him.
So anyway, he plays the harmonica.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
He also was a pianist in the.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Piano, right, and I guess he's just known for singing
and stuff like that. And they offered to pay him
some money in order to come perform their juke joint
for a night and whatever, and you know they got
going with that.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
He's a drunk by the way.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
He is drunk or.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
The time he is alcohol they could do anything for
for us, for some beers or for some liquor or whatever.
At the time, I guess he had some Irish beer.
I guess I was like real popular at the time,
so I guess I'll say some really good alcohol.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I think it was fucking with the Irish mobs and
the Italian mobs, right.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
So that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
That's when Shorty was saying to them, oh you you know,
oh which Irish mobster did you rob and then try
to start a business with.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
So now here we're introducing the Mary character. That's who
Duch is talking about. So Mary, she is Stack's ex girlfriend.
She is a white lady. I don't know why the
fuck everybody is saying that this bitch is white passing.
It's so white that grandfather who was half black, Please

(41:33):
stop this shit.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
In the movie, she has a grandfather who's.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Half black half black, and her mother, so her mother
is biracial, and her mother she kind of like raised
Smoking Stack. So like the backstory was Smoking Stack. They
have an abusive father and I think that their mother,
their mother had passed away when they were young, and
so the father kind of took out an abuse on
the twins, and I think more so.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Stack or whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
So yeah, so we get introduced to the married character.
As soon as the bitch came on the screen. I
was like, this bitch about to be the mines verybody.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I just.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Knew it.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Smell it on her.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I could just smell it on her. I was like,
it's just our history. Like if you really look up
a lot of the lynchings that happened to our people,
especially black men, it was the you know, same with
the m and Hill. It was a white woman accusing,
you know, somebody of rape or some other shit, or
they're trying to pin a black person to something that
happened to a white lady. I was like, this is

(42:36):
this is crazy. What did you think about the married character?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
No, it was overfall.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah I know, I know as soon as she came
on the screen, like you said, it was quiet, and
then I've seen who know they seen it was a stack.
Sack was fucking with her. I'm like, yeah, he was
hitting that. No, I mean, she won't be on his
dick throughout the whole movie. He was saying that.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah. I was just like, here we go with the
ship and then especially during the time, I just can't
never understand why a black man would want to get
caught up being that, you know, if they get caught
with this person. She was married, by the way, she
was married to a white man. So they want to
call this white pass and.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
The visual white man, and they chose they always shoes.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
All right, So that's that she's sitting here off fantasizing
about stack while she's married to a white person, living
out her life as a white lady, right, you know,
And he knows deep done inside, I can't really be
dealing with her because if I do, I can end
up getting killed or some other situation that can happen.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
At the time, it was like, yeah, they see me
with a white girl, niggas kill me. I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
I think this is one of that niggam was one
of that thrilled in the thirties.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Was it worth it getting lynch?

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Getting getting your body?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Fucking cars?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Hell?

Speaker 1 (44:00):
We even saw the Mother Jail movies where what the
white visis working with the Eddie Murphy and them.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
I don't know what you're chatting about.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Yeah, I noticed what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
I think I think Eddie Murphy's and it is a
movie where they always post slavery in jail, and one
of the characters on the jail knocked up the the
warden's daughter.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
I have no idea the movie we're talking about. Damn,
it's a popular movie. It's Martin Lawrence and I believe
that's Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah, they have a movie when they're in prison.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, yeah, Life.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I think that's the Life.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
That's the one I never watched.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, they yeah, that's that's one of the scenes in
there that one of the people knocked up the warden's daughter,
and the warden was sick because he knew was one
of the prisoners.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Of course the prisoners are black.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
But yeah, so they gathered up. They're getting this ship
going because Sammy, I don't think we said it. Sammy
is an amazing blues you know singer. He's just playing.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
It happens is just played the guitar really well, and
it happens to sing.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Well.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
They didn't know that he sung that good when they
when they pulled up on him. They just knew he
was singing at the church.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah, well, we're gonna get to that. But they know
that he was talented that's why they live. Like Sammy,
you're gonna be playing for the opening night at the
Jube Joint or whatever, and so I just want to
we're gonna get more into Sammy. But Sammy definitely is
the soul seller his character. Like we said, the twins
represent duality. We already know what the industry freemasonry. The
Sammy is the fucking soul seller. All right, that's exactly

(45:30):
what his character represents. And we're gonna talk about the
history of where you know, his character was inspired from.
But yeah, so that happened at the train station and
then also stack he went to sharecropping area to get
this other character named corn Brad because he needed some
you know security. It's the club Dus said. This reminds

(45:52):
him because this is what Dust used to do back
in the day in New York. This nigga used to
do the same shit modern day times. If we had
a club an advance this is literally Dutch.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Go get to go the club board and get the
club going to the owners.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Get the signs, get the performers.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Find a couple of years, you know, get your friend up.
He's working. Need to play security tonight. Yep, you know
what I mean, this is Dutch. That's why my girl.
This my girl that you know why you can relate.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
We're gonna get to Any's character. You're gonna know why.
He could also relate to this ship too. But we're
gonna get there. Before we get there, go ahead, he
gets corn bread.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah, so he go get corn brother, who was his
big friend and everything. Corn Bird played security for the night.
The cornbread scene was funny.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, cornbera cornbreas played by Omar Miller.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Because because he goes, he's like, you know, they picked
he's a cornbreads picking cotton.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, he's a sharecropper.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Again, you know, savery becoming. That's a choice, right, So.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
When granted record it the sharecropper, I guess that's what
they called it at the time.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
I know what you're saying as far as a choice,
But at that time, what the from jobs they're gonna
be like smoke a stack criminals.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
I probably wasn't much options.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I'm saying, probably wasn't.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
So so yeah, he uh, he's picking cot and with
his wife. His wife is pregnant or whatever. But they
out there picking cot and trying to hit their quota.
Right now, I got to hit my quota. So this
boys telling me, hey, man, fuck your quota and everything.
I'm about to pay you a certain amount of money.
And then he said, oh, my wife is pregnant. Niggas
that man, fuck your wife. Niggas about to pay you this, that,

(47:29):
and the third she mightn't even suck a dick tonight,
Like come up with your niggas trying to put some
money in pocket.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
He get all tight.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
It's just a funny little scene how the wife was
looking at him like shit, now.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
He right, you better go see what that money hitting for,
you know what I mean. Yeah, So it was just
a little funny. How to me, it was like's not
funny in the sense of all how.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
A woman would just convinced niggas to do whatever for
a couple of dollars, But it was just the fact
of how like.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
She considered it. Man, I'm like, yeah, nah, he's trying
to be all positive, like, no, I don't want to
do this my wife and my kids. He's like, no,
come here, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Right. So before we get into the whole jewel join
in the whole plot of the movie. Now we get
introduced to this this damn demon, this white vampire, his
name is Remig, all right. He so happens to be Irish.
So I don't care. I know it's gonna sound cliche,
but if you listen to our podcast, you already know
where the fuck I'm about to go with this. This
is their fucking nature. Okay. We already had shows talking

(48:23):
about mythology and you know, ancient like ancient characters and
mythical creatures, how there's truth in it. You will have
shows when I blatantly talk about how the vampires represent
these damn white people, these reptilians. Right, we have shows
talking about how you know they they harness and harvest adrenochrome. Well,

(48:48):
that's true. They drink blood and rituals shit like that.
These niggas can't take the sun. What I just think
this shit they just making this shit up or whatever,
like this is their fuck in nature. I'm not trying
to be funny. You know, vampires their rank with demons
and they're the foremost agents of sin. You can do

(49:09):
your own research on this. This was a philosophy that
became official in the church in them during the Middle Ages.
Remember the Yad's gotta keep remembering. The movie is called
Sinners we're gonna keep breaking that down, all right. So
they say witchcraft, devil worship, demonology, vampires where we all
of that shit was grouped together as evils to eradicate mankind,

(49:33):
all right. And there was certain like uh theologians specifically
in the Greek Church that believe that demons created vampires
by entering and animating corpses. So this is all facts
that you could, you know, research yourself. So with the
women character, Nigga just come out of fucking nowhere, right

(49:55):
and he goes to a house of KKK members.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Man, he didn't really come out of nowhere. I believe
he was being he was being chased by some Indians.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
All right, So that's n.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
He could have popped up someone that you know Indians
being on day.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
But he's like he came out of the sky almost
the Indians was on it like the boat.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Like you know how like falling, and they didn't show
where he came from.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
It seemed like he kind of like like he like boomed.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Maybe I think I think maybe he was running to me.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
To me is symbolic to like a boat with lightning.
As far as say in getting kicked out, that's how
I looked at it a little.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Bit and how the Indians pop up like that.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
The Indians. The Indians came after the fact when they
already let the white chasing house.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Yeah, like I said he was.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
He came in in the panic and het saying he
was being chased.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
But it wasn't like the scene showed him running.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
It was like he like doing vampires. So he could
have just did like a little like a jont That's how.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
But you don't understand how simple we're first intron that
the sun was in like that, the sun was out.
He was getting sucked by the sign, but he still
came in like doop, like he just fucking fell out
of nowhere. That's really how we were introduced to him.
We weren't introduced us as running our foot. This nigga
came up. Okay, see when when we watched it, I

(51:21):
hear what you're saying, But I'm saying, remember like he's
a vampire.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
He could jump like really high or.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
I'm not negating that. I'm saying that when we were
introduced to the character, that's the first he sees that
Nigga comes in like that thing.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
He came out the sky.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Even if you jump nigga. He's coming from up, he's
coming down.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Sure, remember he's being chased, all right.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
So going back to what you said, they introduced, they
showed the Chata, the Choctaw Indians. It's funny because we
already know the history that all these people they whitewash.
Everybody's our history. Not everybody, they whitewashed our history. So
we know that the true indigenous people are black people.
We understand that we're indigenous to the world too, not

(52:06):
just here in America. We are indigenous to the world.
And they actually called the Indians fair skinned niggers, right,
so they hinting at our identity. Right. So they do
say that in the movie because you know when the
white couple, because like I said, the vampire, he happens

(52:30):
to go to this white couple that are KKK members
and he tells them on being chased by these Indians
blah blah blah. Did he even say he's being chased by
Indians or whatever? Yeah? I think he did, was honest
about that, and it was fair skinned niggers shit like that,
that's what happened or whatever. So that's the key, that's
key that they put. You know, the chataw. I'm not

(52:50):
saying that shit, right, but y'all know what the fuck
I'm trying to say. It's key that they put the
natives in there, and I thought it was a key
moment for them to have that line fair skin niggas,
because they're just trying to hint that the true identity
as far as like you know, real black people are
the ones that are indigenous, not what the fuck we
see today. And even those or whatever people are gonna

(53:13):
get offended by that, but it is the true niggas,
know what it is. They're erasing our history. We're indigenous
to the world, all right. Anyways, anything that you want
to say about that scene, as far as you know,
the Remick vampire, the Irish vampire. Yeah, other people could
sit here do their own reviews talking about the Irish.
Them niggas did not have the same type of level

(53:34):
of slavery. We have a show talking about the gentile
slavery or white slavery. It's fucking comical. These were indentured servants,
not the same thing they had. They had times when
they can just leisure. It wasn't no whips and chains.
Nigga twenty four to seven, like please stop. It's so
fucking cringe. I don't even want to The comparisons as
cringey as fuck to me. All right, it's cringey, but

(53:58):
anything that you want to say about that scene.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
No, he knew that he had to recruit people who
look like him and who think like him. Who recruited
I think, but I think them was related to the klan.
Lady and the husband some about something like that related
to the klan.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
So he knew who to recruit.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
You know, fir first, first he caught the dude, and
then he caught the wife and everything, like, he knew
he had to take out the strongest, you know, saying situation.
But yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
He he pretty much turns on. And mind you, these
think was already evil nature. They already the Klan had.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Yeah, so heready knew what thim it was, you know
what I mean. But yeah, and the hand said to
them when the Danes pulled up, they said, Hey, the
person that you're housing, they're not what you think it is.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
God be with you.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But they understand the
names that they said. Some niggas got a part of here,
and yeah, and they called the Indians. They called him
fair skin niggs, fair skin niggas and ship. But Amy, dude,
that's the only time you've seen the Indians start this
whole movie. That was it. After that, you know, movie
kind of just goes into them getting this juke shit together.

(55:22):
I don't know, before they get the juic shit together.
Smoke he's going around so doing his runs that he
goes and pops up on his.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
His ould shorty, his wife whatever, this.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Girl something like that. This was his girl friend pretty much.
It was the black lady who's played by.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
The character's name is Annie, and she was this this
particular actress. She was in Lovecraft County.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Right, and so I think she's just into WITCHI shit
and dark shit. She likes that ship. I think that's
her ship.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
I think she really a witch.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
They say that this is Smoke's wife as far as
like when they have it written down as far as
who this character is, so right, that's how I'm gonna
have it in.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Real life, though, I think she's really into witchcraft. Okay,
she looks like she's deep in that ship.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Because she did love Craft County.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
For her to do this, but she just does it
too good.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
But let's you know what's funny. She's a UK actress,
so her voice is so I find it so interesting.
They're so good with how they.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Do even in that Even further is my hypothesis of
her being like really into that ship. I think she's
really into.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
They all are everybody in the fucking movies into this ship.
So to accuse her only, they're all Michael B. Jordan's
a fucking warlock. All these niggas that are in the industry,
they're doing some shit, they're all doing rituals. Yeah, so
to accuse her only it's kind of preposterous.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
But continue though, But yeah, he go. He pulls up
on her and he pays.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Her a little visits. I guess they had a child
that didn't make it and.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
And he was going to the baby's grave.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Yeah, and she.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
They had like a decent little dialogue and she was saying, like,
you know, oh, you know what you think you and
your brother just stayed alive just because y'all got gangsters
and y'll tough. She has shame how she put a
protection spell over him. She was really into.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
She was into Hudu. Yeah, I want to pause here
and talk about Hudu real quick or whatever. So yeah,
this is you got two twins, right, and then one
twins connected to this this black woman who was supposed
to be like, you know, the indigenous woman, the original woman,
and then you got this fucking mutation. It is what
it is with Mary's character. So I like how they

(57:44):
just kind of show the differences as far as like,
you know, Smoke being connected to his actual black queen,
his ancestry, somebody who they keep him protected or at
least had the intentions of keeping him protected, right, and
then marry the mutation. You know, he's messing with her.
That's the demise. We're not even supposed to be messing

(58:06):
with these people. It's actually in scriptures. But going back
to the Hudu thing or whatever. I find it funny
how black people they talk about this being our history
or saying that, you know, Christianity. I agree with what
they want to say about Christianity, but that doesn't negate
the fact that the Bible is our history and that

(58:27):
the actual Ethiopian particular version actually predates the King James version.
So I find it funny how people are like, oh,
this is what we're supposed to be doing. The whodoo
the root work these type of rites, if you actually
read your fucking scriptures, especially when it comes to just

(58:48):
like the rites and the rituals in the Bible, especially
the ones that the levitical priests were performing, like in
the Tabernacle, It's literally the same shit. But the difference
is is that they were doing things for intonement of
our sins and to make offerings to the Most High, right,
versus just killing and doing sacrifices for fucking deities. That's

(59:11):
literally the fucking difference. Because if you I'm an break down, like,
how so similar it is? That's why I'm like, do
y'all even read the book that you want to claim
is the white man's book? Are you fucking retarded? It's
literally the same fucking rituals, but one is for the
most High and one is all this other extra evil shit.
So I find it funny when you actually researched the Hudu, right,

(59:34):
Christianity is actually kind of connected to it, which is funny.
So it was like the Galla people, you know, black
people in Misissippi, Mississippi Delta of course, Louisiana, right, Dutch
and things like that, they would do all these type
of practices. They had hoodu doctors and they would identify
as Christians. They would do root work and some of

(59:56):
them were pastors. I find that funny tool because we
already know what most of these passes out here are,
what freemasons they're doing fucking evil shit undercover, all right.
They would do all the type of things that they
would conjure make spells, like they would use the mojo bags.
They show the mojo bag in this film because that's

(01:00:16):
what protected smoke, right, That's what an Annie gave smoke
for protection, a mojo bag. All this stuff. They feel
like the people who practice hohodoo, they feel like, oh,
we don't gotta wait on the most high. We can
just command the divine to act at the wheel through
all these different who do rituals or whatever. And a
lot of the blues players back in the day and

(01:00:40):
blues musicians they you know, practice hoo doo. They sung
about hoodoo, people like Bessie Smith, Robert Johnson. We're gonna
talk about Robert Johnson because Robert Johnson is what the
Sammy character is pretty much like based upon or whatever.
You know. A lot of the blues performers they talk
about the room work. They talk about the spells, the spirits,

(01:01:02):
the mojo bags and shit like that. All right, So
I just find it funny how people want to dismiss
the Bible called the white man's book when it is
the black man's book. Dumb dumbs, and the same type
of rights and rituals when it comes to sacrificing the

(01:01:22):
animals sprinkling the blood, like, let me just break it down.
For example, like if levitical priests were going to do
a sin offering, they'll slaughter an animal, particular animal right,
without blemish, blameless, sprinkle the blood on the altar, burn
the fat right, dispose of it, and the purpose was
for atonement of our sins, all right. So they were

(01:01:44):
doing sacrifices to the most high. Now, for instance, let's
say the Europa tradition or whatever, they do a sacrifice
to oak goon. They take an animal sacrifice with prayer,
they sprinkle the blood or the items on the old
goon shrine, and then their purpose was to seek protection, guidance, favor,

(01:02:06):
blah blah blah. So the real fucking difference is that
they were doing it for different deities or multiple deities
or what they want to claim ancestral spirits shit like that,
And theolytical priests, they weren't doing these type of rights
or rituals for these demons or these multiple deities. They
were doing it for atonement of sin to the Most High.

(01:02:29):
But after the Messiah came, we ain't have to do
all those damned type of sacrifices with the fucking animals anymore. So, y'all,
niggas is dumb as fuck trying to say that it's
not the same. It's damn near the same. It's just
ones for good and ones for fucking evil. But y'all
want to act like, oh, this is what we're going
back to. Y'all, niggas is so dumb. The reason why
we're in this particament is because of our fucking horring

(01:02:49):
after other gods and doing all this shit with all
these other deities. We're supposed to be serving the Most High,
the True Creator, and y'all out here sitting here mixing
this shitting with all this d fucking work, ain't no
damn difference than Centuria practices and all the other damn
evil ass practices or whatever. So I just want to
say that, you know, because I find it funny how

(01:03:10):
y'all y'all can't y'all can't do it, all that consecration
shit doing the same shit, but for the most high
dumb dumbs. All right, I did my little rant. Go ahead, Dutch.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
It was a long rant.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
It was a long ran, but it had to be set.
It had to be said. It had to because y'all
not gonna sit here and be this dnse.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
I forgot we was at We're.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
At the juke joints. We're at the juke.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Joints, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
So boom, after he sees his shorty and now she
shows him that she placed a protection spell on him
and all this other stuff. He walked around with it
and everything like a little bag or whatever. But I
think he kind of considered it. I don't know if
he fully believed it, but then he did consider it.

(01:03:59):
And anyway, I then she helped him do something too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Then she helped 'em with some food. She helped 'em
do something.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
She she was doing some hood shit, some rituals. I
don't know. She did help him with something too, and
he wanted her to come, you know, to the to
the joint as well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yeah, So anyway, everybody pulling up. So he gets to
the joint and they getting they getting a night gonna Oh.
Pr before I skipped a little something something not important
but important. But preacher boy gets some Preacher boy. He
see some black lady. She's pretty or whatever, and she
claimed she was married, which I believe she was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
But her name is Pearline.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Her name is Pearline, such a old school name, and
she Yeah, Preacher boy ends up getting it getting at
that later on, but a who We get to the
juke joint and you know, the people coming in or whatever,
and they have this nice little scene that I thought
was dope and because this scene really like it made

(01:05:00):
me feel a way, but I understood and I appreciated
the scene is they have this powerful dance scene where
I believe preaching boys playing the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Guitar, right, yeah, he starts to play.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
He starts to play.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
He's a good singer, right, and and everything's going and
then you see like the evolution of music from black.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Music that we created these genres.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Right from from the past all the way to the future,
to the future, to the present to the future, and
you know, it was just really dope, Like seeing the
dancing how I went from because it kept saying like,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
He has he has the voice of like whatever. They
kept him trying to scrape his voice.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
They said that he had the voice and the power
of the music to conjure, to conjure spirit.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Yeah, that's how deep it was or whatever. So like
that made me think about music and totality. You know,
you really think about like you think about Travis Scott
in the astral world to think about uh, you know,
down to your favorite rappers that just make make rappers
and singers or anybody or just songs in general.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Yeah, we have an entire show talking about how music
is Satan's favorite gateway. Music was considered to be one
of the highest forms of magic. So like if someone
like sang or played an instrument, it was often to
honor like different gods or deities and things like that.
It's also like using you know, central ceremonies, religious ceremonies,

(01:06:39):
magical rights, different witchcraft practices. We have an entire show
like breaking that down, Like and we already know that
you know, music it really can, you know, influence you
in different ways. It hits the subconscious, super conscious mind,
unconscious mind, but goes in must come out. It's it's frequencies,

(01:07:04):
it's energy. But yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
So it goes into just this whole like dope musical
danccene of the music just kind of flowing again from
the past to the president to the future.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Yeah, it's like very sugar shack. That painting the sugar shack,
very sugar shack. Like everybody is dancing and then you
see the spirits the answer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
One of the dudes in the danccene wore my war
struggle life before. Shout out to him. Oh okay, yeah,
that one dude. They don't really see his face. You
should see the dancing moves he is wearing the dinnerm mouthfit.
Ok yeah he yeah, shout out to him. Man, I'm like,
I thought that was interesting too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Day. I'm like, how the hell you ended up? I mean,
I see how he ended up over there, But how'd
you end up over there? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Yeah, But this dancing was powerful because as all the
dances is like onst like spiritually happening, and the club
when the club has started to burn, the club is
burning down.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
It's not really literally.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
But it's not burning down in little since it's all
metaphorically because I guess some BioC leaders saying, how you know,
either all this chaos and things are just burned down
around you, one thing for certain, the music is going
to be there, or how demonic and crazy music actually is.

(01:08:34):
And like it's like you said, it's saying his favorite
you know, tool to use and this is why you
know the club was burning down around them, and niggas
just kept dancing like it's gonna be doing that ship
like in hell to the grave, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
What I mean, how you want to take that scene.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
You have heavy metal artists that talk about how certain
guitar riffs and chords and knows will summon demons, you know,
play to would say that the kind of music which
a humans are exposed to growing up determines their balance
of their souls. Like oh, if one lists to the
wrong kind of music, they'll become the wrong kind of person. YadA, YadA, YadA.
And like Dutch when we were talking about it, like Hughes,

(01:09:14):
the thtyse type of events and parties you will see
when certain songs are played, the different spirits that are
conjured up, especially when you mix in the spirits of
the alcohol or the drug use right, all these different
fucking deities they come in to play. All these spirits
is coming to play. Nigga's gonna start breaking out into fights,
but she's gonna start getting all nasty and lusty. You

(01:09:35):
kind of see that. Now. We ain't see breakouts and fights,
but you see the spirit of lust and all that
other stuff coming in. People having sex and hypersexual stuff.
You're right, niggas gott slicing it and slicing over it. Yeah,
you're right. So no niggas started fighting. This is what's
going on. It's evil ass spirits. So they trying to
make it seem like, go oh, it's being one with

(01:09:57):
the ancestors. No niggas is really conrad enough spirits. That's
why you know you have these performers like that, I
said an Astrooild or Beyonce, because they reached out to
the crowd. I want to feel your spirit. I want
to feel you. They're they're putting all these damn spells
incantations on fucking people and like going and we've seen it.
We've me and Duch short stories like we better party

(01:10:20):
meeting him looking at each other like yo, this is
fucking crazy. Because like niggas is just you just see
the damn evil as spirits all around. And you know,
they say that Satan was the angel of music, like
you know, you go to Ezekiel chapter twenty eight, how
it talks about you know, how he was pretty much

(01:10:43):
made with music, like he was created. That's so that's
why it's like one of his like favorite tools to use.
So people they want to talk about the juke joints
and they want to compare the juke joint lifestyle versus
the religious or the Christianity lifestyle. Because this whole movie

(01:11:03):
is about sin and about sinners. All the people up
in their centers, Elijah and Elias smoking stack with sinners.
They were thieves, right, they were criminals or whatever. That
damn perling. This bitch has a husband. She's a fucking whore,
you know, Mary another one, she's a whore, smack fucking
with the white bitch. That's a sin. Y'all don't like that,

(01:11:25):
but that's in the scripture too.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Not supposed to be fucking with these damn these damn people.
You're not supposed to be fucking with these people Israelies.
You're supposed to stay with other Israelites get over it.
So you see all these different sins, I mean even Annie, Yeah,
her intentions, you can see the clear intentions with her
doing his witchcraft, but she's still practicing witchcraft. The whole

(01:11:49):
movie is about sin and how it leads to death.
That's where the whole vampism, you know, the vampororrism comes
in or whatever. It's eternal damnation. Uh So, yeah, juke
joints and parties, even us like you know, growing up
going to clubs. You see the fucking evil were thinking

(01:12:10):
it was just a good time. People are trying to release,
but what is what is that like? What is that
going to lead to?

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
So, so after the scene kind of commences, here comes
the white people. They hear the music, the.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Demons, the demons, the vampires, they hear the music. They
come knocking on the door head.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
They were attracted to it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
It was called right now. One thing that they kept
trying to do was to get invited in. And that
also just it just hit me that this is exactly
why the demon who got recruited the KKK white people earlier,

(01:12:58):
he was able to get in there because he begged
them to come in, and they invited him man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
To the white people.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Yes, yes, At first they couldn't come in at the
gun to his face, like who are you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Lah?

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
But the moment they would let him in, and he
convinced him that was this. So he was trying to
get let inside the and hey, Kim, can I get
him inside and play little tunes? This that the third lah,
They wasn't fucking with it. They told him, nah, all right.
It was like, nah, it's for black people only. You
can't come in here. We don't care how good singing
you are. To get out of here, right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
They start hitting a little.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Hit their little notes and stuff for.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Them, gas music and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
They told him get him out of here right. But
they didn't leave right away though. They kind of stuck
around to see what will happen at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
By the way, Mary white girl, Stack's ex girlfriend, she
makes her way to the party. They told him, they like,
why the fuck you? What is she here for? You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
They've been trying to avoid her the whole time, but she.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Sticks around and so mind you, she's in the party.
Only white bitch in the party.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Only one, only one. So and they see her in
there too, and it was like, she's family, Like why
is she up in there? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
And he's like, well, she's family, right. Hold that thought, guys,
just hold that thought, but go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
So AnyWho, and they really didn't want her there. They
wanted her to him to kick her out when she
was there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Yeah, so Smoke was like, fuck this bitch, Like he
was not for the relationship between his brother and this
white chick, but he just knew all the trouble that
would come along with it. And he's not even in
that mindset. He had a whole black woman, the whole right,
But Queen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
She had to go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Yeah, and anyway, let us stay. But she goes and
she goes up. Oh, I'm gonna go talk to the
white people. You know what I'm saying. They probably got
money and they could probably could pay to do certain
things like bah lah, because they was looking at their money.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
That's what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
So Smoking Stack was looking at their bread. They're like,
all right, we really made too much money to night.
We wanted to stay open for two months in order
to make some of the money back. But I don't
think they were trying to step up for two month.
I see open real quickly in and out and double it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Any who.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Yeah, She's like, oh, because I'm why I can go
and talk to them different and we can get some money.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
She so again letting her white privilege hit when it
it's time to make it hit, and they give her.
She comes over to them. They talk for a little bit.
They give her some coins and she's like, oh, what's this.
She's like, Oh, it's not from your time, I feel
he said her. So I say that point must have
been old as fuck from some ancient times. The vampire

(01:15:34):
to live for adver type ship and they she's talking
to them, and then but these eyes turn. When she
sees the turn, she pulls a gun out. She's like,
ohta here, you motherfucker, stay far away from here. But
stupid ass turns her back. Don't run or nothing, don't
say nothing on screening on nothing, you know what I mean,
just turn.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
It got her and they got her.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
So she gets recruited to their little squad. Now out
her again. When she become a vampire, you gotta be
invited in. So she goes to the door and she
says the corn bread So she's not gonna let me in,
not gonna let me in. He's looking at her like, okay, hey,
come on in, you know what I mean, non Sally.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Yeah, he's not thinking nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Not thinking nothing of it, because.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Nobody's thinking that old there's some demonic vampires, right, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
But she her asking to come in though it threw
him off, but it didn't throw him off too bad
because and again it's not it's not the sharpest niggas
corn bread, you know what I mean. He's just like
he was, just in here. She come in right, So
she gets in there and boom, not about to get crazy.
So she in there and she on some freaky ship

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looking for Stack and everything. So now she's trying to
distract Stacks. She's trying to get with Stack you don't
get him fired up and everything, and she's ready to
take him in the room and go get some.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
In this moment, Smoke is just a fight breaks out. Uh.
Smoke is handling the issue with these niggas. With this fight.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Niggas was gambling some money when nigga got sliced. Niggas
always lights the niggas will blaze during that time, so
that straight buck fifty niggas faces so he's tight. Smoke
trying to handle this ship. He tells Preacher Boy, you'll
go get Stack. So Preacher Boy, Man, Preacher Boy, and

(01:17:26):
Stack was just fakely talking about, you know, sexual endeavors
like earlier in the day. So when he goes and
see Stat getting some ass, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Thinking, oh, my boy, make him love. I'm gonna leave
him alone, you know what I mean. But he's supposed
to do what buddy told him to do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Yo, get the nigga, you know what I mean, because
you know, being militant, that's how and I was again
smoke minded me and me with certain things like Yo,
get X Y and Z come back. Oh he dance
right now, nigga grabbed that nigga. Heah, he's dancing, you
know what I mean, Like, get a p out of here.
So just looking at it. He goes back over there
to him, Preacher Boy, and by the time Preacher would

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gets back to Stack because he was fucking with the
white girl in the room, in the back room or whatever,
you know, doing like he said, sinning, having sex and
the jew joint all the other shit.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Right, it's over for him. The nigga got slaughtered like
bitting blood everywhere. It's over shape blood bath.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Uh, the nigga crashes out, Smoke comes to the back.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Smoke Annie. Couple of them witnessed certain things.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Smoke shot the bit shop and she got.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Right back up and then she like kind of like
sped out. I thought it was kind of weird, Like
why she would just go back outside. That's one of
the rightings, Like she was already invited in, So why
the fuck couldn't she get back?

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
Then she needed to leave because she could have got killed.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
She couldn't get killed unless they had a wooden steak
and all this other.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Would have immediately started, you know what I mean, she
would have I think I think her alone would have
got murked.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
So let me just pause here too. So Annie, which
is smokes woman, she's very intuitive, like she's supposed to
be the spiritual person, like now they pushing this kudu shit,
but she's supposed to really be the spiritual person, like
the sound mind of the group. She's already kind of
aware of certain things because she's so spiritually intuitive. So
she's like, we're dealing with some vampires, We're dealing with
some crazy shit. So she really the one that's holding

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everybody the fuck down, including her man. All Right, so
I'm going back to what Dutch was talking about. How
he can see this shit. That doesn't me too as
far as being that's gonna roll his eyes and y'all
can't see his face and this nigga put his head back.
But he tell the truth. Shame the devil. Dutch tell
the truth. Okay, as far as how I would tell

(01:19:44):
him certain things like you shouldn't be doing certain things spiritually,
all this other other extra shit, let's not act like
that's not true. Dutch, Get on here, got micing Lion
say that's not true. You know its Mike and Line
say it's not true.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Go ahead, that's share my night and shining. That's what, right,
That's not what I want you to say.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Throwing a white horse and a suit with your hair
down your back, stop it, stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
That's not what I'm trying to say. You know, that's
not what I'm trying to say. Anyways, he ain't gonna
admit it, right, but he knows exactly what I'm talking about.
So okay, sure whatever, even when it comes to just
people not and against ship all sort of stuff. You
get this person you think is your friend, then again, police, listen,
a lot of us women. We really do be the

(01:20:38):
sound mind with these negroes. AnyWho, go ahead? Continue? So he.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Yeah, so he gets he gets slaughtered, right, he gets,
he gets up out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Yeah, they close the door ends up closed because they
close the body and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
They want nobody to see what happened, and they just
trying to figure shit out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Shit start going crazy, so everybody's like, oh, we gonna
get out of here. The people just started to end up.
They had to clothes.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Oh no, they said party over. Oh okay, that's what
I didn't want nobody to see what happened, gotcha. It
should have kept everybody inside. Sure, they said party over.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Everybody gotta go this, that and the third, and that's
what pushed everybody outside. Yeah yeah, including.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Corn Bread was already kind of like Cornber. What happened
with Cornbread is that Cornber had to take a league.
You had to go use the bathroom. So he ended
up getting just you know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Yeah, they catching him and uh the Asian couple.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
So yeah, so then the husband, cause you know, the
party's over, So the husband's like, wait here, baby, I'm
gonna go get the car.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
So that's how these two got separated from each other
and so yeah, he got caught to so everybody can
turn into vampires.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Right, everybody gets fired. And then it was too late
by the time they really that's what they did. Oh
no where was here, should just stay and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
And then you know they didn't turn every fucking body.
Everybody that left out that damn door got turned. Yeah,
they had a whole cesspool. And I see, now this
is a this is a key thing. They showing the
high mind, the spiritually dead. How everybody just following pretty
much Satan, whether it's unknowingly or you know, knowingly, as
far as like the actual parallels when we can compare

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it to what we see in real life, just even
with black people. Oh, we're gonna under stand here and
turn this black person, and this person's gonna turn this one.
We're gonna have a whole group of these damn people
who are going to be just spiritually disconnected from the
truth and leading down like certain paths, like you know,

(01:22:48):
people who might stait here and gang bang and sell
drugs right all this other shit. These only fan people
are like most people right now, have a high mind
with how they how they think and stuff like that.
So they're definitely showing that you know what I mean.

(01:23:08):
And I just want to highlight that had Stacks dumb
ass not have been fucking with the white girl, they
hadn't even been in this fucking predicament because they would
have left it at that they were left they were
so smart, like not these white people ain't coming in
now the party, right Dutch. The party was supposed to

(01:23:28):
go on till damnon there in the morning, right break
us on. Yep, so we gonna I guess, I guess
you're gonna save that bit a bit for last, like
what you know, what's gonna happen regardless of the fact
when it comes. But we'll get to that part. But
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Yeah, so niggas go outside. These jombies is catching bodies. Zombies,
I said, zombies.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
Pampires is catching bodies.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Right, so when they're trying to save whoever they could
save and just keep niggas around. But before this happens, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Corn Bread, cornbre ends up coming back to the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Door, right, corn Bread comes to the door and he's like, yo,
we'll say, I don't want to let me in, and
you're looking at them like you need to be invited in.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
And like I said, Annie is the character that's very weird.
She's like, yo, something, I'm right. He's trying to he's
trying to be let in because this niggas a been,
they got to be invited in.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
And then he's like, whatever, give my money, then I'm
out of here. And then he's like, be careful, go
to hand on the money. He tries to bite, he
tries to bite Smoke, Smoke shoot him in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Him sticking his hand out was enough though, for that
nigga to pull his ass out.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. That showed the barrier. Yeah,
very thing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Yeah it is, and it's that easy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
You know. So she's his face off, but buddy still lives. Anyway.
He said, they catching mad bodies. They trying to convince niggas. Yo,
just join us, you know what I mean, just come
in the dark side. Smoke almost went.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Like a dumb ass too, which showed how weak people
could be, because even though you've seen all this shit
happen right in front of you, so tempted to be
so weak.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
And then.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
It is because his brother, this was his brother. That
was something and I think he was pretty more motion
his brother's hurting.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Yeah, we didn't really get to it. But you know,
the brother end up behind the door. He was like, yo,
they thought we just saw you die. He came back
started talking to them through the door, and then you
know he ends up busting through the door and shit
like that, and he ends up outside with all the
rest of the hive. One thing that they had pointed
out with the REMI that the lead vampire, the Irish vampire.
They said that they were all connected to his thoughts

(01:25:39):
right in his memories. They were all connected to each other. So,
like I said, that hive mind shit or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
He could be his mind, they could be hit her
mind and they all had the same energy, thought, memories, language, everything.
So yeah, man, so the Asian nigga, Asian nigga, he
got caught.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
That's Whitey. She sees that, you know, she lost her man,
and her man's damn there, her.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Damn is dead, right, And then the reddic dude he
started telling her like speaking Chinese to her and ship
and saying ship to her, like yeah, we gonna go
get your daughter, and oh I love that, you know,
I know that sex position that you like, you know
what I'm saying, just fucking with her. So she's just
crashing out or whatever. She's just upset, but her emotions

(01:26:28):
just overtaken her.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Again. You know, the Asian woman. They don't your fuck
about much. They just care about themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
That's really what this movie was showing too. How inviting
other people to our community as far as like East,
that's her fucking downfall. And it really the fuck is
had Stack and I have been fucking with that white girl.
Even if they wasn't even fucking with these damn Chinese people,
they wouldn't even be in this fucking predicament at all.
Now that vampire prior Stool would have been out there lurking,

(01:26:55):
but they would have survived that night. All the people
would have survived at least because you know, no morning time.
I can't maneuver in the morning during the day. Now,
what would happened the second day, I don't know, because
that vampire, the thing is, he became obsessed with Sammy.
He wanted to use Sammy's gifts for the purpose of evil.

(01:27:15):
That's one thing that they were showing too, like he
had like a a session like oh he's so talented,
I want to use I need to use this. And
this is what Satan does to our people, you know
what I mean. So let's just pause here and talk
about this Robert Johnson person. So Robert Johnson, Robert Leroy Johnson,

(01:27:37):
he was an American blues musician, all right, Delta blues,
and he played the guitar. He was a songwriter, and
he was around between like nineteen thirty six and nineteen
thirty seven. So the story is is that like in
nineteen thirty in Robinsonville, Mississippi, nineteen year old Robert Johnson.

(01:27:57):
He was like an aspiring blues magician, but he wasn't
that good, and he would hang out at juke joints, right,
he would hang out at jew joints and he would
try to play and stuff like that, but the crowd
wasn't really fucking with him. So, you know, he took
some time off, maybe a full year or whatever. Nobody

(01:28:18):
really heard from him, and so when he came back,
they realized something was very different about him. He was
actually really nice, and he actually was able to play
a seven string guitar, so like he fitted an extra
string on there instead of a six string guitar, he
put a seven string on there, and so nobody's ever

(01:28:38):
seen that before. They was like, yo, this is crazy.
You know. They realized he had like this crazy skill
set all this other stuff. He also played the piano
things like that, So this character could also like you know,
represent the Delta Slim character too. So during this time
in the Deep South, they all considered the blues music

(01:28:59):
the devil's music. That shit even just coming up. Anything
that was secular was considered the devil's music, you know,
to the church and they said, you know, it would
lure good men and women to these juke joints where
they would dance, drink and share all kinds of unholy affections.
We're already seeing these damn people. When they was, like

(01:29:20):
Dutch said, when they was doing a little montage of
the past, present and future music and the genres of
the Black Americans what we created and stuff, you said,
it was burning right, It showed it was englfton flames.
That's not a good thing. That's damn near the brimstone
kind of like what they kind of showing. So as

(01:29:41):
far as like how they would wrap this around as
being the devil's music, it's because Satan is using these
type of music to infiltrate the minds of the people.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
This is facts.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
This is why you know people are acting out a
certain type of way. You have all these bitches on
OnlyFans and showing a ass because the Twerking and Cardi
B's and Nicki Minaj and all this other stuff. Really
it does affect us, like spiritually or whatever. So anyway,
with the Robert Johnson, you know, blues singer, they said
that he went down to the crossroads and he sold

(01:30:13):
his soul to the devil. They want to say that
specifically was Papa Lebas fucking deity. There's different bringing the
demons and things like that. I don't know why y'all
try to differentiate it. You know, it's still he sold
his soul, all right. And he actually died at the
age of twenty seven. So he had certain songs where
he kind of admitted, similar to artists that we know today,

(01:30:36):
right Dutch that will admit on songs that they sold
their soul to the devil, things like that. You know,
before Kanye, he had a song called Crossroad Blue as
far as going down to the crossroads, hell Hound on
My Trail, Me and the Devil's Blues. He literally have
a song called Me and the Devil's Blues and he
had a song called up Jump the Devil. So this

(01:30:58):
nigga was pretty much kind of like the first soul
set when it comes to this shit, Okay, he was
like one of the first soulsas I ain't gonna say
he's the first, but he is one of the first
to sell his soul for satan, uh satan for riches
and fame. And an example of this too is just
like you know, when it comes to uh what's it

(01:31:21):
called Dutch, the alter egos like Beyonce where they had
the video when she was younger talking about you know,
I would pray y'all, looked up my hands and then
something would come into me and then I could sing
better than what I could sing before, I could dance
better than I could dance before. She literally, she literally
is on an interview emitting this shit, you know, with
the Sasha Fears character alter ego. It's a demon. They

(01:31:43):
would come in, these damn demons is performing through these people.
They not even as good as you think they are.
People think Beyonce is just so challenged, so amazing. She's
getting her gifts from a fucking deity that she sold
or soul to and you know, like we always say
say in his Rumpel steal skin, these these contracts they
come with a fucking little trick because a genie about

(01:32:05):
is always a catch and he always got to take
the ship back, all right. So that's why, probably why
he died at the age twenty seven or whatever. So
I just want to bring up the history of Robert
Johnson because he's definitely the base of this film and
as far as to send the soul selling and that's
what Sammy's character represents. And you know, we're gonna talk

(01:32:25):
about the ending. It's really sad, but go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
So yeah, these niggas, they all getting caught up a
lot of so so any pretty much tells him, you know,
this is what we gotta do to beat these niggas.
You gotta get the wood, get the garlic.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Yeah, like all the typical vampire tropes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
The lord Ship, Yeah yeah, she just ran with it, right,
ship made some shit happen. They also made everybody in
the room eat garlic, which I thought was interesting, like
just eat a fool like garlic clothes. Yeah yeah, man,
it was just a really interesting scene how they did that.

(01:33:17):
Moving forward, the Asian chicks just starts crashing out.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Oh god, I already knew that she was coming to
She was getting real anty.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Yeah, yeah, she starts crashing out, and you know because
he's like, oh he said he said this, that and
the third to me, And no, he's gonna get my daughter.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
Got saved my daughter. You know, the warriors outside. We
should just fight on.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
She started intagonizing smoke, which I didn't like, tagonize the
black man. I thought she was this.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
I thought she was all that and everything. So fuck you, vampire,
bring your asses in here, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
So she invited them in selfish ass bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
But then New York get into this crazy a fight.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
She ends up dying.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
She ends up burning with her her husband.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Yeah, she did.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Put a stick in his heart and died with them,
burn with them, a lot of them. You know, I said,
this went crazy what's his name? Sacrifice himself for everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
Before that though, you know Annie. Unfortunately she ends up
getting bad. But before that even happened. When she was
breaking down all this vampire stuff to smoke, she say, oh,
if something happened to me, you gotta you gotta kill me,
because I cannot be in this internal damnation form. She
didn't want that, you know, she want to be free
when she dies. And you know they already had baby
that passed away, so that that was her thing. She's like, Nah,

(01:34:43):
you know, when this shit happened, something goes bad. You
gotta take this wooden steak hit me in the heart
with it so that I don't turn into this this
demonic shit. And you know that's what happened. The thing is, though,
even though these niggas is dead, they still have some
type of essence to them, like there their self. Because
Stack and Mary, they were actually upset that Smoke ended

(01:35:08):
up killing Annie.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
You noticed that, right, Yeah, But I feel like they
was upset because they wanted to use her for some
more dark ship.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
Yeah, they wanted to use her for some dark ship.
But I think it's so they also just wanted to
be with her, like because they were all grew up together,
like they all connected, like they sell the family or whatever.
So I think it's just like they wanted them to
be the dark side. They wanted they wanted Smoke to
be on the dark side too. They just wanted them
to be part of this demonic you know, clan of vampires. Right,

(01:35:39):
So yeah, Delroy he ends up with Delta Slim, Delroy Kars,
he ends a sacrifice in hisself. Everybody ends up getting
fucking bit. Just let's everybody sammy and smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Yeah, and they smoke, don't get bit. But like I said,
the whole scene was was dope. And so it gets
to the point where the the vampire they have they
have some monologue where they're pretty much revealing, like he's like,
you know, the KKK niggas is gonna come here and

(01:36:13):
cut you out tomorrow anyway, you know what I mean,
I might as well join us. You know, we don't
have to be able to do with racism and order ship.
It will be too strong for that, you know. And
I'm saying here as they're going, I'm like, I wonder
how many times they done sold the same storyline two
people from way back, Like, imagine how many white people

(01:36:34):
went around talking to uneducated black folks and just trying
to swindle them into some ship, you know what I mean,
years on years, and that's why niggas didn't have properties.
And the whole nine it was just yeah, oh the
slave owner left the property to the slave or to
see how smart this slave is, you know what I mean,
stole some money at them, you know what I mean, Like,

(01:36:57):
I'm just I don't even imagine how nasty, you know,
the work was. And white people again, it's how fucked
up y'all are, you know what I mean? But they,
you know, he's trying to swindle, swindle them. He gives
them little monologue about their clans members is gonna come
kill him and shit like that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
So anyway, when he finally gets to get Preacher Boy,
they finally find Preacher Boy, and you know, they have
a whole moment in the water or they're fighting, and
Preacher Boy wants to say the Lord's prayer, which is
our father who were in heaven.

Speaker 1 (01:37:29):
So he starts saying it, and interestingly, and I still
trying to figure this out, it didn't do nothing for them.
If anything, they just enchanted it with him, you know,
all at once everybody started saying them with him, like
it wasn't you know, get spelling them away. And I
thought that was interesting because that's what most people were

(01:37:52):
doing there and fear that they were going to die.
And Preacher Boy, you know, again he grew up with
a preacher father, he also hit.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
But yes, I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
Say, I just wanted to say how I look at it. Well,
first of all, like the the evil people, like the demons,
they no descriptions better than we do. That's number one.
And then number two, Sammy's heart was never really connected
to the most high and you're we're gonna see that
towards the end when we break down the ending scenes
and stuff like that. So it didn't really affect nothing,

(01:38:25):
because if you you know what I'm saying, if you
don't really believe in what you're saying, is it really
gonna help you? Right, That's really what it comes down to.
It really comes down to, is it really gonna help you?
Because we're gonna see what really ends up happening with
Sammy anyway in the end.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
So so you know, Sammy has a little fight with him.
It's to move over the head with the guitar. Shit,
don't kill them, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
But it does damage to him, and then uh, I
think the demon eventually gets shot or some ship while he's.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Smoke came from the back.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
He ends up, and then the sun eventually starts to
come up, starts to.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Burn somebody him but before that, Smoke and Stack they
have their own little fights. Smoke does not kill Stack,
and Stack tried to bite Smoke, but because of the
mojo bag that Annie gave it protected him. I just
want to bring that out, that Smoke, I mean Stack
and Mary they were still inside and all this other stuff.
So yeah, Smoke ends up. He ends up coming behind

(01:39:28):
and killing Remick the vampire. All right. I just think
it's interesting because he was so obsessed. He really wanted Sammy.
He wanted Sammy badly, and even you know, throughout the movie,
I think it was Smoke. I think both Smoke and
Stacks told Sammy this is only.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
The first I forgot to mention little things like that.
But yeah, smoking Sammy Sammy. The more Sammy was dead,
the more he saw to fall in love with the
whole joint, you know, lifestyle. You know what I'm saying,
the women that alcohol. He's free and just doing these
things like the plays instrument, and he's feeling like a star.

(01:40:08):
And you know, twice they had to check him like, nah,
you're not about to do this. You're just doing this tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
This ain't the life for you, he said, go back
to the church. Play in the church, Play.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
In the church, stay in church, what your father tell
you to do. This seems for you, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
But still you know they tainted their tainted his soul.
This is something he wanted to do, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
What I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Yeah, And I thought I thought that was interesting too,
Like dam imagine how many like good people out there
just got caught up in the life by getting a
little taste of it, you know what I mean? Because
in the jew joint saying he even got a little
tastes on pussy for the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
You know, you just had to go mention that scene her.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
Yeah, it's important because he's probably I think a version
still at the time, you know what I'm saying, he
didn't come off like he was already having sex.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
Came off like you know, he instead of a woman.
But this is about to be a new thing for him.
And then and then smoke hat and I smoked spack
Stack was telling him you know, oh you gotta you know,
and got yacht eat some buzzy real quick. So they
gets to that point to get his little thing on
what Shorty who was married.

Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
Her name is Pearly Parline pearline and everything, but she
was also a singer.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Well yeah, going back to what you say, a taste
of it, That's what it comes down to. What the
whole vampire symbolism as fur as. You can't you know,
let nothing in unless you invite it in.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
Right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
He just did it. He his mind wasn't like focused
on the most Higher using his spiritual gifts that Yea
created him with for glor glorifying the most High. He
just wanted to do whatever he wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
To do, you know, right, you wanted to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
So after that was done, I said, they you know that,
him and the vampire having this epic little fight scene.
Smoke comes from the back and estaffish the vand empire
with a wooden stick to save Sammy, and the sun
eventually comes up. It's just him and Sammy. Sammy's all

(01:42:09):
fucked up. Tell Sammy to go back on. He gives
him the keys to the car and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
By that guitar.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
Throw that ship away because he held them to the
guitar with all his mic and the ship was broke.

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
Guy, there was nothing there.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
It was just hand the handle. He's holding on to
the ship for all his mic and and smoke stayed
behind because again so woomb when Shorty said, a wappen,
which I do? You robbed some some mobsters in Chicago?
They did because they had the mob guns. That's why
he had all them guns like that. He had that,

(01:42:46):
the drum gun and everything. But he gets into this crazy,
uh dope little shooting scene because you know, like the
vampire sold him. The Klansman's was coming back the next
day to kill y'aut anyway, after yell little juke party,
so he waited for them. The clans dudes came. Then
he ambushed them and just popped all of them. Of
course that made people happy. Oh yeah, sidebar not in

(01:43:08):
the sidebar, but also not a part of the movie,
but part of the movie right before, right before what's
his character jumped through with the harmonica Delta so delta slim.
He starts giving this whole little deep monologue about his
friends that happen to be jail slaves type shit. Am

(01:43:32):
I still picking cotton? But they work for the jail.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
This white couple, young white couple leaves the movie. While
he was in the movie, he was a young white couple.
I could tell that it was probably like eighteen nineteen,
you know what I'm saying. But they left though, and
I thought that was hilarious that they left. It's like
they so couldn't take the truth about certain things, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
Yeah, but yeah, I've been wondering what goes through the
white people's minds when they see the film anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
Yeah, So anyway, but fast forward back, so he gives
them the He tells to give him keys something buried
the guitar and go see go to your dad and
just just you know, go live your life, you.

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
And he gets into this crazy gun scene with the
Clans members and kills all of them smoke.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
Also, you know, he's half dead. At this point.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
He also gets a glimpse of his wife in a
white dress with their baby. The wife wanted to die
because again they had a baby that dies. So she's
like got somebody headn waiting for me, you know what
I mean. So he sees that as he also he's
still kind of alive though, because he still ends up
killing the main Clans member. Yeah, yeah, he kills him,
and you know, it was just an interesting scene how

(01:44:47):
they ended that. And then Sammy Preacher boy, they continue
the scene with him finally touching down after taking his
long ass drive all fucked up up, which is which
is bringing us back to the very beginning of the movie,
which I thought was so they even introduced us to
from the beginning. They've introduced us to the end and

(01:45:10):
then brought it back at the at the very end,
you know what I mean, the same way, and he
pulls up to the church, his father than the church preaching.
He's walking to the church with the with the guitar
hand on his hand, and then the scene happens again
to go my boy, and they just let go the guitar,
so just put it down, Just put it down, you

(01:45:30):
know what I mean. And then the scene just ends.
The credits start rolling and they're showing this old man.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
They're running out the church, right he left the church
and he ends up driving the only way he's driving to.
He's just driving with the guitar things still in his
hand that nigga like. Think about this, folks, and this
is how powerful the shit is. They're showing how I.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
This man after everything he went through on seeing death,
seeing the devil himself.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
You know what I mean, when you drove all the
way back to church to your daddy. You know what
I mean, You went in church all fucked up, and
all your dad wants you to do is put the
guitar down. And he still.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
Left the church put the guitar in his hand. And
later it becomes this famous musician. He went to Chicago
and became got town. Chicago was real big one, breaking
blue artists, blues artists. He goes to Chicago, opens up.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
A juke joint called Pearlen, so he named it after
the end up dying.

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
He named He named it Pearline after.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
The lady he pretty much ate out who was married
at the juke joint. But again that must have been
his first piece of you know, not that else's first
joint for real, I think so.

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
I think it was a fake virgin.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
So he names a peerline which is deep and he's
a world famous juke player, I mean Andrew player, a
guitar player.

Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
Also, I believe has three lines, which is a scar
on his face. I believe it's three. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
I was from Remen because Remen.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
Had you know, and that was like his logo, his brand. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
So yeah, it just showed that he chose Satan. He's
literally saw Satan had him in the fucking arms.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
Yeah, Hey, that nigga still chose that Satan.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
He still chose Satan over serving the most High and
being course, they're going to have christiated the churches first,
representing the most High and the this this alternative lifestyle
is Satan. Satan wants us to follow him because it
leads to death. That's what this entire movie is about.
That's why the Vampires represents the death. He wants people
to have this same mindset, that high mind. Oh, come on, everybody,

(01:47:54):
we can join us. There's no ra season all this
other stuff. He wants everybody to become one with him.
They were all connective of collective consciousness or whatever, and
he did it through various tactics to get people to sin.
You have the interracial relationship of the Downfall. You got
the music, which was the main component to this entire film.

(01:48:16):
You know, you have other black people and all this
other stuff, like the fact that he still chose to
sell his soul after everything he experienced. That's some sick shit.
That's deep. That's deep. He's seen all the people die Dutch,
everybody fucking died. The only people that survived was him.

(01:48:37):
And smoke. Everybody died around him, all of this death,
and he still chose death. And that's what you see
with these black celebrities, Kanye, These niggas chose death, you
know what I mean, Like it just is a they're
choosing this pit of this torment, this eternal damnation, all right.

(01:49:01):
That's why they showed him burning. This is what it
is you're gonna lead to. It's gonna lead to burning.
He's gonna be the torment and then the brimstone, or
you can have peace, right and then the paradise, said
the light. That's why showing the duality with the twins smoke.
He was on a better path. He was with the

(01:49:23):
person that he was supposed to be with. He was
with the black, original indigenous israel Lite woman. All right.
He didn't get compromised, none of the shits right. He
didn't get compromised, and he didn't end up turning to death.
He didn't end up let me just join my twin
brother in this damn death suit. No, he didn't do that.

(01:49:46):
And what happened to him, what was his end? His
end was being reconnected with his wife and his child
right for eternity in peace, what is smaximize. Now, we
ain't staying to the end credits all the way, but
towards the end they show that smack and that say
smack Stack. I hope I haven't miss saying it's smack

(01:50:08):
this entire time, have I?

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
Dutch? No?

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
All right? Well either way, Stack and Mary they actually
they survived cause I think they were. They were still
inside the place before the sun came out and burned
up the rest of them and ship. Yeah, so they
end up surviving. They fast forward so they take it
to like the nineties, and that's when we see Sammy
as an old man, like Deutch says, you know, he

(01:50:34):
owns this jew joy Perlins. He's this this blues player,
and I guess Stack, you know, he tells him like
you know, oh I can still turn you so uh
Stack and Smoke Smoke made it like a deal with Stack,
like you know, I ain't gonna kill you off, just
don't go after Sammy or whatever, which is fuck that

(01:50:55):
he should have he should have killed his damn brother,
because that was even his brother really anymore. I didn't
like that part, you know, But yeah, him and so
he gets to live out his life. Ain't that interesting?
He give be a vampire with his white bitch. Now
they living together, little fucking too demon. Yeah, they was both. Yep,
that's what they want, y'all. White, that's what they're not white.

(01:51:17):
That's what they want, you black niggas to be doing
eternal damnation for the white couchie. Yep, that's what that's
what they want. Y'all have been thinking that we'd be obsessed.
We not oubsessed. It's just the truth, all right. We
have the scriptures where I think it was Ni and Maya.
I think it was Ni and Maya. He was going
off with these niggas, who was fucking with these damn
heathen bitches, these gentile nations. This ain't nothing new us

(01:51:40):
talking like this. This is in the scriptures. How other
Israelites was going off on the other Israelites for doing
the same shit that your niggas is doing now, fucking
with these damn white people.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
So I didn't like that. So Stack is to live
his little evil damnation life with his white bitch for eternity.
But like I said, it's showing the difference between the
two twins with the duality situation. Yeah, so yeah, that's
that's pretty much it. I'm sure we missed a few things,

(01:52:12):
but there's so many people talking about this damn film.
You know what I mean? It shows sin, it shows
how sin leads to death. All right, that's what it is.
That's the whole vampire aspect of it. So good film.
If you haven't seen it, check it out yourself. And
if you have seen it, please share your thoughts. Drop
what you what you picked up, and what we might.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
Have missed before we leave the next beat the Celtics got.

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
Three points A way a A is there anyways?

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
You have any other final thoughts about this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
It's there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
About the movie. The movie was great, that's all. It
was a good why I recommend everybody go see it.
We probably we probably missed a few things in this talk.
Maybe I don't really think we missed anything. Uh, you know,

(01:53:16):
it was good. That's all because I say it was
a good watch.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
And it's something we should get on DVD, should get
it on cassette.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
Also, I want to say, like you know, people comparing listen,
I still like Jordan Peale. Shit, I like all these
black directors making these films that are layered, that have
different meaning and deeper meaning to it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
You know, the only thing probably skipped is like the
white chanting dancing part.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
Yeah, that's that hot.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
It's probably the high mind.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
That's I don't really have nothing to say about that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
But other than that, I said, I don't want us
to break down scene by seeing by scene with y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
And we don't give a talk about the cinematography. We
care about the message.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
Actually, this is so good. There was movies smooth. The
messaging behind it is what was most important, you know
what I mean. Niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Stop sucking with white girls. Uh, stop fucking with Asian
people like that. Sto letting people come to the cookout. Yeah,
and everything everything will be okay, little key.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
And follow the most high and don't don't serve satans simple.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
It's some simple ship that they keep trying to you know,
we keep trying to put niggas on like granted, hey,
we got our own things that we gotta deal with
due to our own power, but that's nothing that we
can't overcome.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
From within the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
Let these other niggas in, they going to keep trying
to capitalize off of our what's the word off our struggles?

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Yeah, that's facts, that's fast. Like we do with each other.
We will get through it eventually, but we keep letting
these motherfuckers in. That's just our the mind.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
Yeah, they're gonna point out our weak points and they're
going to capitalize off of it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
X you know what I mean. And that's just what
life is all about.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
Yep, all right. I love y'all much. This is a
long one peace out and barakata m

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