Episode 269- CointelPro

In this week's episode, Dutch and Tena discuss the FBI's most covert and evil program, COINTELPRO. The COINTELPRO project was established to wage a war against the black freedom movement. Their ultimate goal was to neutralize "black extremists". However, it is apparent that the program was created to destroy black power and black unity. COINTELPRO never stopped; the government is still using tactics on our people today. Social media and agents of chaos, aka agent provocateurs, are their main tools.

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Speaker 1 (01:46):
Dutch? What's up?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
What's up? What's up? All right? What's going on? What
is going on in the matrix today?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
That's got listen, guys all social media like you years
ago thought it was funny, but I guess the surgery
have been successful. He went all the way to uh
I think Turkey one of them foreign countries to get
a leg extension surgery.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Are you're talking about? You just started going.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
In forgot his name. It's a black dude. You can
look it up on the internet as a black dude.
He used to be around five to five. He got
a lay extension surgery. Took him about two years to
heal from it. That made him about six feet and
he's been showing his progress, you know, it's just like
his strength training and things of that nature and how

(02:35):
it works and the whole nine. And I just thought
it was pretty interesting that people are willing to go
through to these crazy limbs in order to appeal to society.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, I've been saw his story. I mean he's just
like all these other people that get plastic surgery who
are not happy with how the most high you know,
created them, right, that one is more risky. I think
that's riskier than Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I mean, he's still risky. Everyone was saying, how you know,
his legs is gonna be fucked up by the time
he's like in his fifties and sixties and Ship, you know,
probably ain't gonna be able to walk no more. Who knows,
but yeah, man, So I thought that was interesting because
he's like, you still have a five foot five like
body set, so you just got long legs and you

(03:24):
still would have like, you know, depending on how your
arms off. Your arms ain't like matching get tall legs.
It's just like, well you look awkward. Yeah, now you're
looking kind of awkward. So you weren't at the side
thirty two in the ways in a thirty eight in
a length and everything, you know, and just a side
small sol medium shirt or some shit. I don't know

(03:46):
where ship, but that was one thing.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Mm hmmm. They they crashing out over juneteenth white America.
Oh really, Yeah, like certain states, certain cities, they're having
trouble actually securing locations for events and stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Oh, they don't want June teeth events this year? Yes,
Oh I know they haven't won in Charlotte. Come a
couple in Charlotte. Yeah, ay man, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
They even like question it, like, you know, it was
already made a federal holiday, and now they like trying
to figure that out now too, which is fucked up,
Like what the hell did June teen do to anybody?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Like, I mean, who made up June teenth?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
It's not who made it up, it's it's what happened,
all right. It's the emancipation of enslaved people in Texas
on June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five. The reason why we
celebrate Juneteenth over July fourth is because July fourth we
were still in captivity, right all right. So that's why
it's not who made it up, it's what it is,

(04:53):
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, they just decided to
recognize it because, you know, more black people become aware
of what the truth is, and we ain't out here
looking like Kuna Kinte's and Kuna kent Tas with the
damn you know red, you know red white and blue.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
A lot of niggastire this.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well they coon the Kina's and the Kuna kin tests.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
That's what's going on. But they're trying to connect it
to the end of the diversity, equity and conclusion, which
what the fuck? So then get rid of Martin Luther
King and all the other the other actualitdays don't make
no sense. This has been around for a very very
long time, and it makes sense for us to have
June teenth right versus the stupid ass fourth of July.

(05:37):
So I don't know what d I has to do
with June teeth. They're trying to make the connection.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well, I'm assuming because when Trump, it was like he
was saying how he and want people doing, not that
he and want people doing, but he was saying that
these corporations didn't have to participate in all the you know,
all the pagan things of the months. So they didn't
have to do the you know, Women's History month, they't
have to participate in prior monthly they'll want to. They

(06:04):
don't got to recognize juneteep if they don't want to.
They don't gotta recognize holidays, they don't got to do
certain things that they choose not to especially with this,
I call it the sub ones, Like you got the
main holidays, and then you got the sub ones that
they just make up as we go along, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, So the main holidays my job recognizes, but all
the other holidays they don't, right, so that most people
are off. I'm not off unless it's like a major holidays, right.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Like those I say. I got the major holidays, and
then you got the sub ones that some people luckily
get rewarded for. Then they got the other other ones,
you know, like the Saint Patrick's Days and the Valentine's Days.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
The federal holiday, and I believe they made it a
federal and the only people who could really benefit from
that is people who's in somewhat of a higher status
of a corporation.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
In certain places, like you know, they said a federal worker,
state workers some of get the day off of June teenth,
and my job supervisors get the day off. Everybody else
gotta work. So me and my co worker, me and
my few black co workers, I told them every June teenth,
we don't got the day off, were calling out of
work automatically, you know what I mean. So it is
what it is make these white people work.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, I mean we not really. I feel like even
with that day, like I know why we celebrate it,
will people celebrate it, But it's like we're still not free,
Like niggas was still getting lynched, like you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
So that's what's going on other than that, you know,
I don't know, is there anything else going on? In
the matrix?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
People was crashing out over Tory Lanez and the Megan thing.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Oh I think we can kind of talk about that
with this show.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, properly maybe, but yeah, the people's kind of crashing
out about that. You know, social media wise, I see
people still trying to fuel the divide between black men
and women. It's it's like so many like sub levels
of the divisions. You got the it starts off with

(08:10):
the black women in the in the black men and
black women as your first level of the division, and
then you start to dissect it. You got short men
versus tall women. And then you got the gay community
versus the straits that you got the mano sphere versus

(08:31):
the as people will say, a girl's girls spear. I
guess what eeveryone call it feminists. Yeah, you got the
feminists versus the mano spears. It's so it's so like cringe,
how many like different levels of diversion they create with
these scenarios that people think they could relate to when
it comes to celebrities, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
So anyway, well let's just get into today's episode then. Yeah,
this is episode two sixty nine, and the title of
the show is called Cointail Pro Cointail Pro. Now, I
know some of you were asking what is cointail Pro. Well,
cointail Pro is short for counter intelligence program. All right,

(09:18):
so it's pretty much a program that was implemented through
the FBI, all right, to neutralize extremist groups, and more specifically,
it was mainly for black extremist groups. Okay, they'll sit
here and talk about like Communist Party, that's one, but

(09:39):
they kind of always.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
They made this a contract of black panthers.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. But they'll group in
the Communist Party, the Socialist Workers Party, they'll even maybe
even list like the KKK. But we're gonna talk about
how that was never the target. The target has always
been us. It was always about the war on the
Black freedom movement. All right, So they thought that we

(10:08):
and they still think this today, So let me rephrase this.
They believe that we or black groups, right, are the
biggest threat to America.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
To America, American society, to Americans, to the concept of
what America is, to the word a threat to what
white people built, not built were. We are a threat
to a white people want the foundation or like the
how that's the subconscious of America to be. They want

(10:42):
us to concede this, live in a lot of loud
land and just you know, be below them. Yeah, and
if we wake up, it's a threat because you know,
things could get crazy when niggas wake up.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah. It was Jay Edgar Hoover. He was the director
of the FBI, and he said he considered militant black
nowst groups to be the most dangerous threat facing the
United States at the time, and they believed that it
could cause a civil unbrest and violence. So you can
actually go to vault dot FBI dot gov. You know

(11:15):
slash cointail pro cointail dash pro, right, you just look
it up. Just go to the vault FBI dot gov website.
This is a government website and you can literally see
their files on this, like what they did, their tactics
right on how they wanted to neutralize us. So you know,

(11:38):
I'm sure you guys are probably thinking about like a
lot of the Black Panthers, like Dutch said, like Fred Hampton,
things like that. And you know, we re reviewed the
movie Judas and the Black Messiah where they showed that,
right Dutch with la Keif's character, how he was compromised
and the FBI used him to get intelligence, right, counter

(12:01):
intelligence on the Black Panthers and Fred Hampton, and then
they murdered him. And they have that They admitted this
that that's what the goal was and that's what they did, right,
you know, so their goal was always to try to
like discredit like black political figures. And they claim that
the program ran from like nineteen fifty six to nineteen

(12:23):
seventy one. That's bullshit. The program is still active today, right,
they're just not calling it cointail pro and they're using
various methods now beyond with social media, yep, exactly. So
that's what's going on all right, you know what I'm
saying As far as some of the tactics, I would

(12:45):
like to talk about what they would do because they
have some methods. The first thing is bad jacketing, and
that's a method wehearing negative but not necessarily damning. Information
is put out about an individual, and it will use
like small tidbits of information to put somebody in the

(13:07):
negative light. Pret you give an example of this.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Touch usually small tidbits of somebody to.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Kind of spread it.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, Like I mean, we could, oh use the celebrities,
So I want to say small tidbits. But this is
when they use different things to you know, shit on them,
you know. Yeah, so you know the stories of maybe
sexual abuse from your favorite celebrity, you know, like for example,
a Trey song sexually abused the chick or whatever. You know,

(13:40):
even though we know there's things like that like oh,
we know all the girls love this nigga, but he's abusive,
you know what I mean? Or he's he's abusive to
us the girl. They used that to dismantle their characters
or what else is a good one? A gun charge
on your favorite basketball player or something you know, or
or you know, somebody getting beat up on some shit

(14:01):
rape allegations, gay allegation.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, like her Martin Luther King in particular.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
I'm pretty sure, probably infidelity against his wife or that.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And saying that he was homosexual. Things like that. Now,
I mean, some of the stuff about these these high
profile people could be true, but that's an example of it.
It's like they want people to be gossiping. They want
to spread like negative information to kind of deter people
to follow that person, you know what I'm saying. So

(14:32):
that's the first method, bad jacketing, that's what's going on.
The second one is infiltration, right where most infiltrators they
are to you know, gather information, try to sabotage or
disrupt the organization. They'll ask a bunch of different questions,

(14:55):
you know what I mean. Like the whole thing is
like they'll hire somebody to blend in and we're gonna
talk about this movie Black Clansmen. I can't believe we
never saw this film. This shit came out in twenty eighteen,
yeah when it came out, Yeah, but I never seen it.
We just saw it and it actually matched the show.

(15:18):
So we're definitely gonna, you know, talk about that, you
know what I'm saying. The second well, not the second,
the third method. The third method is getting an agent provocator. Right,
So the agent provocator. They are a special type of infiltrator,
and their main task is to pretty much getting good

(15:40):
with the organization or individuals, right and try to get
them to commit like illegal acts so that they can
be in prison. And I believe that in the Judas
in the Black Messiah movie, wasn't the Keith's character like
trying to do that like stead of like arm weapons
or try to plant stuff on them? He was doing

(16:02):
that too, right, Yeah, I forgot the name of the
real man who actually portrayed Fred Hampton. They did show
him towards the end he ended up killing himself, right,
I think so? Yeah, I think so. I could be wrong,
all right. And then the fourth method is kind of
like to undermine public opinion, so it kind of goes

(16:22):
with the bad jacketing. So how they would do this,
Like they'll they'll the police might share negative information with
the news media or you know social media for instance, Right,
Like you said, they'll just sit here and try to
put out any little things to get a lot of

(16:44):
trolls or people to keep spreading that shit. You know,
they just want to broadcast all this negative information about
the group or the person, right, all right? Ye The
fifth one is legal harassment. Like you said, too Dutch,
they're gonna start putting criminal charges on you. They're trying
to neutralize the movement. So I don't know, I'm trying

(17:09):
to We can you know, we can always talk about
all the past black political figures, but just something surface
level too. Like with Bill Cosby, Right, he was trying
to buy NBC. All of a sudden he started getting
these pill popping allegations. But pills and shorties cups, right,
you know what I'm saying. They put these criminal charges

(17:31):
on him, they locked them up. Was it true? These
people in the industry do a lot of evil shit,
so can't put a shit past nobody. But I do
believe that when people are not cooperating or doing what
they're supposed to do, this is when the charges come
upon them. But I'm still not taking away that they're

(17:51):
not doing some other dirty shit, you know what I'm saying.
Like like same with Diddy. We could use Ditty's case
for example. Everybody know this nigga doing all kind of
satanic shit, like he he was like giving into that
his mother is like a witch. They said that he
was like an altar boy, So whatever, that means in
the Satanic world, they probably was abusing him since he

(18:11):
was a child, So he already knows the elite and
what they do, and shit, they all do it. He's
had the Obamas, he had all kinds of political figures
at his parties and them doing the sex CapAids and
also doing all the damn evil Satanic rituals, you know
what I'm saying. But now he done, you know, his
time is up. Satans coming and collect or whatever. So

(18:34):
now they just putting these other charges because does he
really have a rico charge? Right, he was already in
a certain thing, you know what I'm saying. They're not
even like they they focusing on sex capaides and they're
not even focusing on the rico. So yeah, Like like
I said, criminal charges are put on people to neutralize,

(18:54):
to neutralize them, and then lastly false imprisonment and assassination.
So the police, the agencies, they'll work together with the
federal and I guess other state counterparts to try to
trump charges against an individual to conduct like a violent

(19:15):
raid on their home or their vehicle. So like example
with Radhampton, they killed him right, right, So those are
the examples of quinteil pro now that you guys are
familiar with it, and we want to talk about how
it's still relevant today and the tactics that they are

(19:38):
currently using in this modern time. And I guess we
can kind of talk about the Black Clansmen film to
kind of tie it in. Okay, So Black Clansmen it's
a twenty eighteen biographical crime comedy drama and it was
directed by Spike Lee. So it's actually based on a

(20:01):
true story of a man named Ron Stalworth. He was
actually the first black detective in Colorado Springs the police department,
and he famously infiltrated the KKK in the nineteen seventies. Okay,
so you want to talk about the film, Dutch.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
And by the way, the protagonist ron Stalworth, he's being
played by John David Washington. That is Denzel's son, Denzel
Washington's son, and he's a really good actor. All the
movies I see him in, he does a great job.
And I love that he's like under the radar where
I think most people ain't really putting it together, like
people who know that's denzel sons. No, but I feel

(20:44):
like most people they ain't realizing that.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, he's establishing his own identity.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
It takes place in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
In Colorado Springs, Colorado.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, and he wants he wants to be a cop.
He said, he always wants to be a cop because
I think his father served in the arm or something
to that effect. So you gys wants to be a cop.
He applies to be the call officer for Colorado Springs.
He has this really intense interview with the black cop
and the white cop. The white cop is clearly the

(21:14):
captain and the black cop is just another cop that
works here, like a sergeant or something.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
I never seen him. I don't even think I think
he just placed him there. I don't think he actually
worked at the thing, because he reminds you he's the
first one that's going to be at that right, that
precinct or whatever.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, so then you know. And then so during his interview,
they asking him a bunch of questions and stuff. And
then one of the question they asked him is could
you handle being called a nigga by uh? He was
he said, could you handle being called the nigga? He
was like, well, I mean, as long as it's not
by my my co workers. He was like, oh, yeah,
it's definitely gonna be by your co workers. Can you

(21:50):
handle it? And he was just like, well, you know,
to get the job done for sure, I can handle it. Right,
So he's pretty much his character was cool to me
because he's he's he's the black guy who was trying
to strive to become a better person and get into
a career. So you're willing just to eat shit and
take whatever for the betterment of the job that you're
trying to get, especially since she was about to be

(22:10):
one of the first black people hired at this particular
police station. Right, So he gets hired for the job
and everything starts off smooth, kind of sort of like
he had some racist shit going off back as a
character who's like clearly racist towards him. They nicknamed black
people at the time toads. So one old cop came

(22:32):
in and was like, can you find me this toad
right here? Freddie Johnson. He found me this told too.
So at first he wasn't offended by the toad shit
until later on what happened later on that made him
start putting laid in his balls out. They gave him
that job offer.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
No I mean, he already got the job.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
That's got the job, but then they hired they upped him.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Quick to No, he decided he just went in and
wanted like a different position. Right, No, he was just
tired of it. What it was though, he was he
was annoyed. He was annoyed the first time when it
happened on older cop and then the other cop that's
like blatantly they're all racist, but the one that's super
aggressive with it, he was just like, now, I ain't

(23:13):
about to be dealing with this. He's like, these are
human beings. He's like, I ain't giving you shit.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
That's not about these stippingds. So he wanted to he wanted,
like you said, he wanted to he wanted this other position.
What was that position that he wanted. He was to
be a private investigator, right yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
But that was after he decided that that wasn't after
it was I'm not was watching it put it like that.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
I'm not only one to argue back back and forth
with you about what was scene came first, But there
was a scene shortly after the told situation where he
decided that he wants to become a private investigator. He
asked the supervisor. Super I was like, well, are you
sure you want that job? He's like yeah. Then he
came back and sall that his balls hang and was
on the follow up it was something to do. There's
no TOAs here. These are human beings.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, but he didn't get any guarantee on that because
remember he got woken up in the middle of the day.
Was like, oh, I changed my mind, Like, you can
come in now and we're gonna we're gonna have you
start as a detective, undercover detective. That's what he wanted
to be.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
I feel like, no, no, that's not what happened. After
the I'm telling you, I remember it. After the prob
I'm not gonna argue with your body. After he they
did give him that private investigative role briefly, and then
the super boss came back and said, no, a matter
of fact, we're going to up you to this instead
because we have a project you want you to work on,
which was him infiltrating the Black Student Union of Colorado Springs.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Okay, like he said, we're not gonna go back and
forth that way, but whatever, if we want to talk
about skipping things, I feel like we should pause here
because we should talk about the climate that they're in.
It's the seventies and the movie actually opens up with
a white man who is sitting out a message to
white America because they've been informed that they have to

(24:56):
accept integration.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
And off about it. Yeah, you know, and I thought
his monologue was I wouldn't say it was deep, but
it was enough for it. It was like, you know,
I feel like white people really feel like. It felt
like that, you know, like, oh my god, we gotta
integrate with these these black people and they want you know,

(25:18):
once you start giving them this, then they're gonna want that.
And once you give them that, they're gonna want this,
you know, and before you know, we ain't gonna have
no jobs, and before you know what, they will be
fucking your daughters and all this other shit that's over
here we are. But you know, yeah, the white people
knew what was coming and it happened.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, so they were like, you know, all they we
shouldn't be integrating with them, like Dutch said, And.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
They really didn't like Martin Luther King because he was
pushing the integration shit.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, well we don't like them ether, right, So there
is that we'll talk about the KKK's my mentality to
when we get there, but go ahead, you can continue
on with the story.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
So, yeah, he gets the job. They said that they
want him to be a undercover cop pretty much to
infiltrate the Black Student Union of Colorado Springs. But not
just the not just the Black Student Union, was really
to get to a particular black figure that was a
part of the Black Panther Party who was doing the
speech at Colorado Springs. So the whole thing was like,

(26:21):
you know, you know, black people unify, it could cause
issues within the United States. If black people have these
type of you know, events happening, it's going to cause issues.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
So yeah, the person that was a civil rights leader.
His name is Kwame Tourey aka Stockley Carmichael, and he's
actually a real activist that was, you know, playing a
major part in the civil rights movement.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Right, Okay, So he goes to the event and he's
given Kwame is given the speech and they let the
whole speech go through. You know what I mean. Dude
had a Michael. You know, he was un acover of cops,
so of course he has he's wired and everything, and
the white people who are his partners because he has

(27:10):
he has some partners. That's listening. They're listening to what
was being said, and they even thought that what the
guy was saying with some powerful shit. They kept saying
some powerful shit. Man. The things he was saying was like,
you know, like you know, of course black power, and
we can't keep allowing these cops are do it to
shooting us with our hands up, this that and the
third and everything they were saying. I was like, damn,

(27:32):
you know, same shit that he got going on twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, She got your hands
up getting shot, same story that has been told over
and over again. How many rappers have songs within the
last five, six, seven years somebody niggas having their hands
up getting shot. How many situations have we washed on

(27:52):
national television when this shit is happening? Right, This was
going way back in the seventies, right, This shit's been
going on for ever, folks, fifty sixties years deep of
this same constant rhetoric. It's almost programming in my mind.
I try not to feed my brain with it too much.
But for story's sake, here's where.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
We're at, right, Well, you know, at the Black Student Union.
He's really given a powerful speech and he's just talking about,
you know, how we're supposed to love our blackness. He's like,
your your hair, your nose, your skin, that's our beauty standard,
not no white people's beauty standard. And then they show
the visuals of like the black faces, and you see

(28:32):
everybody has a beautiful, strong afrol. Like I said, I
really admire the seventies movement, the black power movement. I
admire just the natural Afro movement just accepting our beautiful,
you know, features, our indigenous beautiful quote unquote so called

(28:53):
black features, you know what I mean. And it's a
shame to see where we're at today with it. You know,
you can't leave the house without seeing a hair, hat
or just extensions in general, you know what I mean. Yeah,
like that time, it was always about just picking out

(29:13):
the biggest, beautiful throw that you could do. And now
we're just in a different time. And I find it
interesting that a lot of the styles have you know,
come back into fashion, right, but we have yet to
really tap into that look with our hair. It was
really powerful and I really do believe that they neutralized

(29:34):
the hell out of that damn era. It shows because
after the seventies you get the eighties where unfortunately we
get the crack you know, epidemic, right, and on top
of that, we just see the rise of the attack
on the Black nuclear family. Because we was coming into

(29:55):
like just so much love and acceptance amongst each other.
They had to neutralize that because you know, everybody knows
that when we're united, we are a powerful force and
we are the biggest threat to them because they know
who we are. We are the most chosen, all right,
So they already know that everything that they said about us,

(30:19):
as far as us being like three fits human, a monkey, subhuman,
they're really talking about themselves because they know that they're
not the original people of this you know, this place
that we live called so called Earth. They know that
they're kind of new hair. They know that they had
the Neanderthal or aka Nephilum aka demon fallen angel seed.

(30:42):
They know the truth about themselves. That's why they envy
our skin, they envy our hair, they envy everything about
us because we are the original creation and they are not. Unfortunately,
now somebody can gonna be listening to this and think
we're trying to be racist. It's not racism, it's the truth.
Because scientists will sit here and tell you this, white scientists, dumbass. Anyways,

(31:03):
go ahead, Dutch continue one.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, well where was.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
That at so Black Student Union. His first assignment to
be as an undercover detective was to infiltrate. Remember we
talked about the contail probe.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
They also talked about that we should strap up and
get ready to have a war with the cops, White
people and the cops. And it ain't like that, you
know what I'm saying. With this guy's trying to tell
people to get guns guns so they could kill cops.
That's what That's how they interpreted it, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I also want to sit here and pause here. How
you know these people love to use token black people
to try to infiltrate. They've always done that, you know.
They got the coon ass house nigga like Django, like
Samuel L. Jackson's character, you know, the one that want
to dance tap dance for massa. Now, when I was

(31:56):
first watching this film, I was like, I hope this
nigga is not going to be like you know what
I'm saying. I was like, I really hope this is
not what this movie is going to be about. And
it took me by surprise because it did not go
in that direction at all.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
And so he goes, he goes and if then, like
I say, after the speech is over, they go back
to the office. They trying to figure some shit out,
but how they're going to infiltrate or whatever, and he
ends up meeting his girl who is the president of

(32:30):
the Black Student Union.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Her name is Patrise, patric yeah, Patrise, and she's played
by Laura Harrier. I don't know I've seen her before.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
So what happened what leads for him to get the
KKK shit?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
He actually ends up being reassigned. So instead of him
being assigned to you know, he was assigned to like
narcotics or jug like he was designed to be detective
for that. I don't understand how he was acients and
narcotics and they got him infiltrating the Black Student Union.
They just wanted to use him, yeah, to get some
intelligence on them, you know what I'm saying, Because like

(33:09):
I said, they said that he's there, our groups are
like the biggest threat to American society, right, So they
actually reassigned him to the Intelligence division. And so he
started to read about like local KKK boom.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
He was reading the newspaper and saw an ad for
a kk to join the KKK. And then he had
just off of win. He was on some boardshit and
decided to call the motherfuckers. And as he's on the
phone with him, he starts acting as if he's a
like a white man on the phone and was like, Oh, yeah,
I hate niggers. Oh yeah, I hate the monkeys they fixed,
I hate chinks. My sister, my sister, yeah, and she

(33:46):
has a baby by one of the monkeys. And it
was kind of funny. I like how Spike Lee chose like,
all right, we can't have a white guy saying this
because it's not gonna come off as funny. But we
have a black guy acting like he's meaning this shit
with all his heart, you know what I mean, be funny.
So it was kind of funny hearing him say it.
So he's saying that ship and the guys in the

(34:07):
office is like, oh wow, you know that what you
got going on over there?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
But no, I think that really he didn't want, Like
when he was listening to Kwame Talk, I believe he
felt that, Yeah, he did he didn't want to. I'm
sure he was happy he got reassigned to intelligence. So
that's why I think he partially wanted to go after
the KKK because you know, they were trying to have him.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
He's like, yeah, yeah, y'all have me do this when
y'all got people who like the fuck motherfucker the KKK
people trying to do some walky ship and they have
a whole ad in the newspaper.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
And they're not trying to They we're talking mainly about
the you know, the injustice that's happening to us, and
we're talking about how we can come together and protect ourselves,
defending ourselves, not that we're trying to you know, intentionally
attext some people.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
And that we're doing it privately, you know what I mean.
We don't have the ad in the newspaper for people
to come out and then come to these speeches or whatever.
You know what I mean that the Black Student Union
college thing like that some ship that's definitely gonna be
word of mouth within the college. You know, the KKK
had a whole ad in the newspaper for you to join.

(35:22):
So anyway he did, I guess somewhere something happens, but
he decides that he's like, yo, I think we should
look into the KKK chapter out here because they might
be doing some other ship.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, and then I think the sergeant they be like, okay,
do that.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
And everything with your plan, this, that and the third
and you know he's so he he ends up getting
buddy buddy with the dude who's in charge of the KKK.
And then he was the president of the KKK Chap. No,
he was the the dude he called. No, he wasn't heah,
not first, it wasn't the grand wasard at first, not.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
The president, the president chapter of Colorado Springs.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, he's getting cool with him over the phone, and.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
He used his real name, which he was so stupid.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, he mean to do that, but he did. And
so he's like, we know what we're gonna I got
a plan I'm gonna use on one of you white guys,
and y'all gonna this is what y'all gonna do. Y'all
going to act like me. So he shrying to train
his white his white co workers. And so one of
the white co workers he used happens to be Jewish. Jewish, Yeah,
flip Zimber right, so he happens to be a Jew,

(36:28):
and I guess the Kkks don't like the Jews either, right,
So yeah, damn this movie was man telling him. So
the Kkks they don't like the Jews either. They think
the Jews is just terrible, whatever the case might be.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Well, in the opening scene right with the monologue, which
I think is Alec Baldwin, I think he played that.
Whoever was talking, he mentioned the Jews and how it
was this is the Jews or behind this integration ship? Yeah,
and I believe that too.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
So they are, they said, he says, the Jews who
are in power. Yep, so they pretty much they told
you the whole monologue. I wish I wish when we
watched the movies, I wish I could print out the
monologues and read this, yeah, because it's easier to dissect
what they're really what they're saying when you're reading the script.
And he pretty much said what it is, folks, that
there's evil Zionist Jews Jewish people who are in control

(37:19):
of these social media narratives. At the time, it wasn't
social media, it was media TV. They're control these narratives
that are pushing for these things to go down because
they want whatever they want out of society.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Right, yeah, I actually have you want me to read it?
I pulled it up.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
It's not that deep. We're like, we're like, man deep
into this.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
I just okay, I'm just saying they haven't. If she
wants is if you want me to.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
You don't have to so anyway, he so, he says,
you know, I want want to want you one of
y'alls going to act like y'all me in person. You
have to try to talk like me though this that
and the third you gotta hope that don't catch your
voice being a different voice, because he's like, listen, black
people talk different from white people, right, and it's not

(38:06):
White people call it kings English from jive us talking slain.
The way we talk on here, this is jive. I
guess this would be considered job. The way we talk.
It's not even that bad because job is some whole
other language. If you really spoke to a.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Nigga, I mean, some people will feel like, oh we
heard so much. You know, we talk I said, we.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Can call the job, but job is really a whole
another lingo. Job is that ship that mystical was rapping
and that ass just it. Yeah, but it's like that
ship is like deep cut slang, like this ship that
you ever heard of? A job really talking some job ship.

(38:46):
You don't understand what that nigga's saying. Now, Okay, but
I got cousins down south with the gold teeth that
still talk like that. And it's like, damn nigga, what
his country? I say? He said, But anyway, you don't
see the movie like Fluent and John like people say that. Anyway,
go move forward. So so he sets it up. He's like,

(39:08):
I gotta get you. He's got all this ship he
gotta do. He gotta get this dude's membership card, all
this ship. But he got to go to this meeting
and meet up with the dude. They got to check him,
make sure that he's as white and as racist as
they need him to be. So they have they have
a meeting with the dude that he sets up. Who's
the Jewish kid that he sets up to go meet
up with? Dude? He's like, you sounds a little different
over the phone, he said, but what's up man, Nice

(39:31):
talking to you, and you know, we love the things
you're saying, you know, uh, And then they start pressing him.
But then there's just one other KKK dude who's like
something about him and he ain't white enough, you know
what I mean. His name is Felix's he ain't white enough,
a jew Jewish and you're doing this. He's like what
As a matter of fact, he starts having this whole
car So I'm I'm speaking past certain things with Felix.

(39:53):
But they had a part where it was two things
that happened. So because the dude has to act racist, right,
even know he's he's he's white passing. He doesn't consider
himself Caucasian, though he said his father wasn't in his
life growing up. He didn't grow up all the Jewish
things that Jewish people did. He just knew he was Jewish.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I don't like that white passing because they are white.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
No, he's white, they're white. This is a white man.
He looked white. Yeah, does he look like the cracker
race racist white people.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
But Italians is not the same as that either, but
they're still white. I feel like Italian's got a little
bit more spicy.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
So he was in that same realm as that, you
know what I mean. So there was a part where
you know things like a lot of things are just happening.
Uh undercovered dude, the black dude, he has to you know,
his job is to protect his partner, make sure the
partner don't get killed. So Felix is pressing dude with

(40:50):
all this crazy ship and Phillis starts getting into his head.
He gave him to the basement, and Phelix is like,
you know, oh you sure you meant no jew I
starts talking about Hillary and Ship talking about the Holocaust,
trying to thin him. So the dude was like, you know,
I think what Hitler did was great. You know, don't
you know, don't you know what you mean? I don't
like Hitler? Like you sure you don't like Hitler? Because no,

(41:12):
the Holocaust is the greatest thing. They're trying to eliminate
all the Jews. This, that and the third. Don't burn
them this that and the third. This is one of
the most quite genius if you asked me that he
just agreed with the mindset of Hitler to feed him
what the KKK do? What what's feeling? Sister? He could
get away with him thinking that he's a racist. He
was like, no, I'm gonna put a lot of detective
tests on you to see if you're lying about being

(41:32):
jew This this Phelix dude just knew that something was
up with him.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, I want to pause because like when he meets
the president, Felix and this other fat ass KKK member,
you know, they they talk to him about the organization,
they kind of bring him in secretcy.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, that was another thing.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
He said.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
We don't call it the Klan, we call it the organization.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yes, the organization, think about that. And they just go
on like a little rants, talking about we can't say
what we want to say anymore, and they're trying to
integrate these fucking niggers up in here. You know what
I'm saying, Like same talking points that we're actually hearing
today in twenty twenty five, you know what I'm saying,
Like that's how a lot of them really feel. And

(42:11):
they wanted to claim that they don't do any violent acts. However,
this entire movie, we are seeing them plan out a
violent act, you know, an attack on the Black student union.
We're gonna get to that, but I just wanted to
bring that up as far as some of their talking points.
You know what I'm saying Dutch, like they feel like
we're a threat. Oh if you give them this, and

(42:32):
then it's gonna be more them doing this. And you know,
their their entire fear is that, oh, they're no longer
going to have this quote unquote power, white power.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
The fear is like, oh, these black people are gonna
have sex with their wives and do all this extra shit.
It's crazy, it's crazy. And these sentiments never left. And
I think the key thing was when he said, oh,
we can't say how we say, you know, feel anymore.
We can't just act out certain things anymore. And that's

(43:05):
why with Donald Trump, for some white Americans, they really
do look at him as the person that's gonna allow
them to go back to that day where they can
just sit here and say whatever they want to say
and do whatever they want to do. And now you've
got white people. These are the white people today that
are playing victim. These are the White Lives Matter people

(43:25):
that are you know, crashing out claiming that you know,
we're being racist towards them and that everything is systematically
oppressing them. There's some sick shit, but these are the
same people. These are the KKK offspring. Okay that's going
around saying that. And I don't know if you saw
the video Dutch when some black people they rolled up

(43:46):
on white lives KKK whatever and they sat here and
deface they shit and they was popping. They shit like nigga,
every time you see this shit, we're gonna pull up
and do the same shit again. And then white men
were quiet. It was crickets. They do shit, pussy Okay, anyways,
go ahead, such yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
So.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, yeah, so you know, he keeps testing Felix, He
tries to hook him up to a polygraph, like you said, and.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
And then black dude gotta break. He kind of like
distracts the whole situation and throes are rock to the
window and Felix's wife is like, oh there's a negro sun.
Somebody get him. So then buddy comes running out the house,
Jewish dude and everybody else, Jewish dude, you know, to
prove that he's racist, he you know, grabs a gun

(44:39):
out of his hand and you know, shoots at him
and he misses every shot intentionally, right because you know
that's his partner, his police partner, Like oh, you know,
he's just trying to act like he's mad racist to
help to help the situation.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
But so the next part is they want to induct them.
Like so the President's like, you know, I really like
this Ron stall work, Like, you know, he seems like
he'd be great to the organization, and so they want
to induct him into the Klan.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Which is what they want. They want to get inducted. Yes, right,
so yeah, things go you know, as things go by,
he gets inducted, right, eventually, Yes, he's gonnavite him to meeting.
So they have this but they have this meeting. Wasn't
a meaning I'm skipping shit.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, they have a meeting. But eventually Ron does get
to get on the phone with the Grand Wizard, right.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
So Ron is talking. Ron gets to the Grand Wizard.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah it is Grand Wizard David Duke. This is a
real person too.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, so he gets on the phone with him. They
chat and David Duke is like, yeah, you know, I'm
gonna meet you soon because we're going to induct you
into the Klan. That's how we meet you. Says all right, cool,
like yeah, we wanna have this big meeting at this
house to stand at there. I'm gonna see you there.
So Duke, I guess he needs some type of police detail,

(45:59):
whatever the case might be. So they had because they
had almost sucked out the whole operation like twice.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Well you skipping a little bit. They do have another meeting.
Felix has a fat wife named Connie. I was gonna
put that there because she tell you tubby Anyways, Connie's
as she you know, gives them ideas, talks about the
Black Student Union and they mentioned, you know, the president
of the union, Patrise, and like, oh, we should attack her.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
We should do that, right, It's like, let's get her
out of there.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
They eventually come up with the idea, Okay, we're gonna
leave some explosives at a civil rights rally and we're
gonna try to take these people out or whatever. That
was what the KKK was planning.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Right, and the cops, the cops of Colorado Spring. I
also skipped one part when them after the Kwame speech,
they had harassed them, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, they harassed Kwame and Patrise and everybody.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
And everybody else and everything was like, oh, you better
get him out of here by tomorrow. We're going to
pay'll visit this down the third It was just threatening
the hell out of dudes. But Anyway, Yeah, they're having
this whole plan, like you said, to bomb Patricia's house.
There was gonna leave like two C four bombs at
Patricia's house. But as they're getting so this is what

(47:15):
dude wants. So Ron wants to get deeper in it
because he wants to find out, you know, what they're planning,
why they want to you know, what's this boom shit?
What's this plan at their planning? So he figures out, Okay,
these guys need some see for which is some shit
going to get from people in the army because they're
trying to do some walky shit. Also, one of the

(47:35):
induction parts was they don't into like a little shooting
area so practice shooting. There was some other dudes that
was there that was shooting that looked suspicious. They didn't
want to tell them who these two older gentlemen was
that was there at the shooting range with them. So anyway,
the Jewish dude, he get the shooting and ship. So
the dude feeling starts questioning him, what were you learning

(47:56):
to shoot at? Used to be an army. It's like
something up with him cause he shoot too good. Philis
knows something up with the jewelers shoes like he acting
like he's just a regular white dude want to be
white and racist, but he's really not, you know what
I mean. Yeah, So so anyway, and the things they
were shooting it, they were shooting at black face body
statues like you know what I mean. Yeah, So if

(48:20):
you guys, imagine like a little billboard that you shoot
on when you're shooting at they have black face characters,
black people.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Running saggerated features.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, after they were shooting, I'm prettyure they probably really
had sh like that too back then for cops to
shoot that.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, and then you.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Wonder why any literally black people, black face characters running away.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
By the way, like I said, this is in the
nineteen seventies, So everybody's trying to sit like, come on, like.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Our people got people in the seventies right now, that
was in the seventies, like a party, bouch for somebody.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Shit, that's what I'm saying. Like they'd be our grandparents,
our parents could sit here in value.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
People's getting these stories from that we make.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
They really think we make this ship up. White America
thinks that they're making this ship up. I'm like, what
do you talk about? Like you know what goes on
in your house, right, I like the people who are
real with it, be out fry about your ship and
be a find that you have. My grandfather and them
they they told us this way and the ship they
proud lynch niggas saying that ship with your.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Chest right the fuck So buddy, buddy pretty much gets
inducted Felix. Felix tells Conye that he one day, I'm
gonna neat you. Conyie wants to, Like I say, Conyie
is like a not a mastermind, but Conyie just wants
to be down and racist. This is why I'm saying,
how your niggas be fucking with white girls because there
was always just down to be fucked up with their

(49:39):
white white other hats, you know what I mean. Yeah,
and they still show it to this day. How you
know they'll they'll fuck with you one day and then
go fuck with their white people at the end of
the day. Yeah, And I don't blame them for going
to fuck with the white people at the end of
the day. But then you niggas got to do better
with fucking with your people at the end of the day. Yeall, niggas,
you want to fuck with them forever.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
And that's what goes into the con until pro as
far as part of their their master planning, the FBI
and the c i A as first it works dividing
us and that ship is at an all time high day.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Work crazy, it's crazy. So Buddy so he finds out
the plan. He's getting in on the plan they had
the induction meeting was supposed to happen, and he decides
that the the Grand Wizard decides that he needs a
police detail. The supervisor of Colorado Springs Police, the Captain.

(50:33):
I guess he was like, all right, you're gonna send
both these VRON dudes there. We're gonna send the Jewish nigga,
and we want to send the black dude who's actually
the one Who's Who's Who's Ron?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
So yeah, I want to pause. I feel like the
Captain is racist as fulk. Even though he tried to
purtend like he's kind of neutral. They all seem like
they was trying to get Buddy himmed up. In my opinion, like.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Yeah, I feel like it was all he was trying
to get this sabotage and something.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yeah, he was trying to get abousage.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
So but he kept us school. So when he gets
so when the black moron gets to the place, he said, hey,
I'm supposed to be your uh, I'm supposed to be
your your your your police detail. And you know it's
clearly a black dude with an afro. He dressed blackly black, Yeah,
to be protected some clansmen, and he kept his professionalism

(51:22):
the whole time, which was killing the clansmen. So anyway,
this meaning happens. Everybody's there, and there's a Mexican dude
there who recognizes the Jewish dude as a cop who
arrested him way back and put him in prison. He
tells Phelix, like, Yo, this dude was a cop over there.

(51:42):
I remember his name and everything. His name is this
dad Zimmern. I remember him and all that. He said, Oh,
so Zimmerman, that is a Jewish last name. Hence why
George Zimmerman. I mean, whatever the fuck is that Germerman
nigga name was? Since why he got away with his
whole ship? Probably Jewish? Right, No one even put that together?
All right, So well, because I.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Think it really is Hispanic, and I'm trying to understand how.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
They trying to show how even the light skinned Expanis
was working with the Yeah, working with them to get
through a certain thing. He was the one that provided
the bomb.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
It's crazy, but I'm like, he's clearly darker than everybody.
How is he how is he in there with.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Them white even white passions, just like he's not.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Even Yeah, he's not white passing. I mean he's not black,
he's not an apple Latino.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
But he ain't the white Latinos be down like we
always said, that's true, you always say, I don't know
how you can't fuck with too many Spanish people who
don't like bright ones. They got the dark ones and
you got the light bright ones, you know what I mean,
the ones that lively they could pass a white. They
take advantage of that ship, right, So that's what he did,
and he was the one that provided them to bombs.

(52:45):
So and with the operation was getting hot. They at
this meeting, Niggas is trying to snitch on him. They
trying to get the ship. They trying to make the
shit hot. The black dude, he's trying to make it
hot by doing something like you're trying to get the
k K nig all riled up. So he does something
where he's like, Yo, my boys, you know, my friends
are never won't believe that I got to do police

(53:06):
detail for the Grand Wizard of the KKK man. Can
you take a picture like he's acting like he fuck
with him. He's like yeah, yeah, of course. Then he
grabs him, not grabs him, but he hems him up
and takes the picture. He's like, all off, and I'm like, God,
Davy touch me. He knows he's racist. He's like, hey,
you ain't gonna do nothing to me. I'm I'm a
police officer. You know what I'm saying. I'll get your
wrestled right now if you touch me, you know what
I mean. So using his powers to his advantage, because

(53:27):
at the end of the day, this dude is just
being fucking racist anyway, right, Yeah, So anyway she gets
spicy in that particular scene. What happens next, Well.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
They try to carry out their plan because remember they
their whole plan was We're going to attack the black
student union, and they disgusted, you.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Know, so Connie leaves. Connie happened to be just meeting
the fat white lady. She leads in this fucking big,
fat ass red dress like you can't fucking miss her,
fat ass, fat as hell, and she has let somebody
I know. Yeah, but so so Connie leaves because she's
getting ready to go set up the Oh that's what happens. So, yeah,

(54:11):
Connie's leaving to go set up the plan. Black dude
is kind of on it because the black dude kind
of knew the plan was for them to put some
Sea four bombs near the presidents of the Black Students
Union's house or whatever. So he shout and send cops,
stay away, cops sing to the budget right, niks always
sucking up. So he's over there. He's on his way

(54:32):
to the to the crib to try to help him out.
He sees Connie. She uh, the fat lady. She goes
and she's trying to stuff these Sea four bombs at
this at the president's house. She doesn't succeed. She tries
to stuff it in her mailbox. She fails to put
in her mailbox, and she walks away and puts it

(54:52):
under the car. As she's walking away from the car,
our heroic black cop friend Ron comes and he stops her.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Yeah, and he was kind of with Patrise and he's
been trying to warn her, and he does eventually revealed
before all these scenes happened that you know, he is
working as an undercover detective.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah. He ends up telling Patrice was like, damn, I
can't fuck with no cop and everything she asked him,
like three four times if he was a cop throughout
the whole situation, everybody asking you a cop, like noah, nah,
I'll just do this, I do that. But she's like, nah,
you're giving cop right, So, and he thought the cop
because he asked the mad questions. But anyway, so he's, well,

(55:36):
he didn't stop her from the bomb money, but he
knew that she had put she had to something because
she ain't had no reason to be over there. And
when she did that, she's, uh, she's getting you know.
He hops on her. Uh, she's he's fighting with her,
and then police officers come and they are white cops,
and the first thing he says is he don't shoot me.

(55:59):
I'm a cop. I'm undercover. Don't shoot me. I'm a cop.
I'm undercover. They're like, what you talking about. Let me
see your badge. He's like, well, my badge is in
my pocket. The got out there, going to reach in
there and get it or I'm gonna have to let
me get it. But instead of them letting him reach
in his pocket to get the badge, they go beating
him up. Right, So these cops are beating him up
cause his white lady's yelling at them beating him up
beat This make her uplah lah. So this just can't

(56:21):
will show you that it even matter if he was
a cop or not. You was just looked at another
black man to everybody's eyes. Right, Yeah, So they're beating
him up and then finally, by the grace of guy,
his partner comes out of nowhere. And was this his
partner come up to sun or No, the guy's king
the bomb.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
No, it's his partner. His partner comes no, no, you right
the bomb first.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
But the time, yeah, it was all the same time.
So the partner comes up out of nowhere. What are
you doing? This guy's like, he's a cop. What you
mean like he's a cop? Puts your guns down, your
fucking assholes, he's the fucking cops undercover. And in this
moment that all that's all happened, and they have to
slow dramatic scene where Felix comes up out of nowhere
and Phelix pushes the button that activates the see to

(57:02):
see Ford, thinking that the bomb is possibly in front
of the house where it's supposed to be, but instead
the bomb was underneath the car that the girl drove.
Phillis pulled up to them, right next to the car.
Bomb goes off, kills Felix. Beautiful, right, beautiful ending to
that right, So the bomb kills Felix. Shorty gets arrested,

(57:26):
and yes, so now this whole story kind of happens like, oh,
this guy took down, you know, a part of KKK
from a possible killing of some black people. This down
and the third and you know, he just tries to
get the racist people out the department and stuff like that.
But the very the old well at the end of

(57:48):
this was after everything was all said and done, the
god that the captain says, all right, guys, we're ending
this operation. He said, what do you mean that we're
ending the operation? I want you guys to destroy all
your paperwork and act like this shit never happened. And
because the media can't really know about all this shit
that just happened, you know what I mean. And Ron's
pissed off his Jewish friends pissed off. Everyone just kind

(58:10):
of pissed off that they did all this work to
infiltrate the KKK, get the Grand wizarm on the phone
and the whole nine, just for them to destroy everything.
Oh no, I'm sorry, guys, I'm skipping in how he
worded it was, well, guys, good jobs at everything that
you did. Hear, but because of everything that you did,
they have cut the funding about the department in half.

(58:33):
So because they cut the funding in half, this whole
operation is done. I need you guys to destroy the
paperwork that you did and the whole nine and act
like this shit never happened. The media can't know what
this happened. They showed that the KKK, the Grand Wars
or the niggas in charge of the police department. So
because you guys want to fuck with what we was doing,

(58:54):
we're cutting their funding in half. Crazy shit. That movie
was very telling.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah, they showed that they, you know how, they want
to use our own people to spy on us. With
the Conteil Pro, they started him off as an agent provocator.
He wasn't feeling that, and you know, it was good
that he was switched to intelligence. He was able to
pretty much like you know, run his own operation against
a more bigger threat, the KKK, because they're like, oh,

(59:21):
did you get any intel on them? You know what
I'm saying, Like they really viewed us as the biggest threat.
But the people that were actually planning to hurt people
and you know, actually fuck up society, they didn't look
at it like that. You know, even for the fact
that you know they were sending police detail to protect
the nigga. Did they do that for Kwame Touay? No,

(59:42):
they did not. They actually had the police harass them.
But for the Grand Wizards, like specially exactly. So we
already see that and that's how it always been, That's
how it's been here in this country. Yeah. I felt
the movie to be good. It was entertaining, It was

(01:00:03):
very informative, and it really reflects on society today, you
know what I mean. I loved the part when the
Grand Wizard was talking to Ron, you know, and he
was like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Yeah, you know, he said, I know, he said, you know,
I know you're not No, you're not black. He's like,
what do you mean how you know that? He's like, cuse,
you know, black people got a certain way that they
say things, you know, the really give me example and
exactly he says, you know, they go are instead of
R instead of R. He said, for example, I said,
are you say are they go? Are? All ship had

(01:00:45):
been crying. I ain't gonna for aura it is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
You know, you know they they after they took down
the chapter in Colorado, even though you know, after the
their boss the captain was like, gotta shut down that work,
like the operation.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Yeah, he still he still was fucking with the green
the Grand Wizard. Look, the Grand Wizard was still calling him.
That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Yeah, So he called him and he pretty much revealed
himself like no, I was actually a black man who
infiltrated his ship, and he was He did it in
a slick way.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
He was like all rah, He's like, so, how are
you feeling? And he was like huh and he's like, yeah,
this is the the monkey nigger lah that took down
your whole operation. Get racist bastard. And then but at
the end of all that, the KKK. So one thing
that they said in the movie, he was talking about

(01:01:35):
how the crosses looked from a distance when you burned him,
and oh, yeah, you can see us burning the crosses
from like miles away. It's mad pretty lot of our
lives what they kept saying. So what happened was at
the end of the movie when he looked out the window,
He's seen like the crosses burning from miles away from
his window, like directly in front of his apartment type shit,

(01:01:56):
you know what I mean? Because if the Grand Wizard,
I'm pretty sure you find out they knew where he lived.
That's what it was. They knew where Ron lived on
accident because he applied to become name. Yeah, so they
didn't go to the house to fuck with him anymore,
but they still doing the just racis shit out in
between town and white people were really weird with that shit.
I think exactly got worship of burning cross Like I

(01:02:18):
need to know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
The whole thing is satanic and religious ritualistic as fuck.
Like they even showed the induction was like a baptism.
They had them in then KKK and they was splashing
them with water light.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Yeah, I mean, but all these things, like I don't
know if you saw people showing footage of the pope's
funeral sneaking had on black KKK ropes, the same rope
that Kanye had on. That's what these niggas learning during
the post funeral.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Hey you know what I mean? Yeah, But I mean
as far as like our modern times, we know that
they're still using various tactics. They're trying to get us
to start a race war. That's why you know the
whole rollout this year with President Trump, how he sits
here and he you know, takes the DEI. He's trying
to get black people upset. You know, they sit here

(01:03:02):
and deface the Black Lives Matter Street though we all
know the truth about behind the Black Lives Matter organization
right right, But you know that's just an example of it.
They sit here and they try to technically take back
segregated facilities, government facilities. Right. I forgot write something along

(01:03:25):
the lines of that. And like you mentioned earlier, they're
just dividing us internally too when it comes to the
the genda war. That's part of it, you know, because
like how are we gonna face this coming civil unrest
when we're not united as a people. We're very divided.

(01:03:48):
So they've been trying to do different things. Of course,
all of the different unlawful killings of innocent black people,
which I still believe that some of them are at
actually staged to ignite a race war, you know what
I'm saying. And a lot of them when you look
into the families and the histories, these are masons they're

(01:04:10):
connected to this shit. So you know, you have like
white supremacists influences talking about a race war talking about
how they would win because they hunt at a young age.
And these niggas is so dumb. They don't understand that
this is a spiritual battle and not a physical one.
They fucking retarded. They don't understand the scriptures, you know

(01:04:34):
what I mean. Like they really try to take a
book that wasn't meant for them and they twisted it
like like crazy. If they do read, they would realize
that a lot of the times when the Israelites were
up against their enemy, it didn't matter if there was
hundreds of thousands of more of the enemy and it
was few of us. We took them niggas out. It's
a spiritual battle, it's not a physical battle. So they

(01:04:56):
could talk all that shit that they want to talk.
At the end of the day, they they know that
their time is up. They know that the first will
be last and the last will be first, okay, and
they don't know how to accept that they're no longer

(01:05:17):
in power, you know, they're no longer in power. One
scene that we forgot to talk about, which I felt
like was very powerful Dutch, is that while they're having
the KKK Induction baptism meeting, right you see the Black
Student Union, they also host another civil rights leader, right Dutch.

(01:05:38):
And he was sitting in a chair that you would
see Huey P. Newton sit in. Do you remember who
the person was who they brought up there? It wasn't Kwame,
It was a different man. It was another man. And
he actually talks about a lynching, right that happened. How

(01:06:02):
there was a black man who you would say is
probably mentally, you know, retarded, that's what he said. And
they these white people, they accused him of raping a
white woman, like we all know the stories with the lynchings,
a lot of that's common, and just the horrific lynching
that they did to him, you know. And I think

(01:06:24):
he was young too. I don't think he was a man.
I think he could have been a child, you know,
and they just take his they lynch him, they drag
his body, they cut off his testicles, they take his
body parts and they hand it out as souvenirs. And
we have compared this to you know, Hamashiak, the Messiah,

(01:06:46):
how it was a lynching the most high was hung
on a tree. He wasn't nailed to a cross. That's
why the KKK likes to take the crosses and they
like to burn it, and they like to make a
ritual out of us hanging because they know that, you know,
the Messiah was hung and Messiah is a Negro, a
black man. So that's the truth of the matter. And

(01:07:12):
it's really sad, you know what I'm saying. And there's
countless scriptures. It's past Acts five and thirty. You can
find it in Galatians, you can find it in the
first Peters. It connects to it connects even to shit,
you can't even it connects to Deuteronomy too, uh. Where
as far as the tree and as far as Hamashiat

(01:07:33):
being hung on a tree, and then of course you
know the KKK they like to lynch us, hang us
on the trees and stuff. So I like that scene
because it was going back and forth kind of showing
what this group was doing and then showing what the
black people were doing. How they're just talking about, you know,
what we're going through as a people and making the
people aware, and you know, they're chanting black power while

(01:07:56):
they're chanting white power, and like black power is just
more so about you know, us coming together as a
group of people, understanding the plight that we have and
the injustice that we're facing on a day to day basis,
and how we navigate through it and how we can
strengthen our people and you know, get the freedom that

(01:08:20):
we truly deserve, while theirs is all about hate and
stupid shit, Like they didn't even have valid reasons as
to why they hate us. It's just innate because they
know that they're just evil. If we are a group
that was created and chosen to worship and lead the
rest of the world, we're here to worship the most

(01:08:41):
High and lead the rest of the world to the
most high. We represent Him. We are the original beings here, okay,
created in his image, and the white people they weren't
created in his image at all, y'all are a case
of an infiltration of the bloodline, a mutation. So that's

(01:09:01):
what it comes down to, you know, and that's what
these niggas is really mad about it was a good movie.
I thought it was, you know, I thought it was
really funny. I feel like some of the modern counter
intelligence or the consol pro tactics, you know, like the
clone tyrone, they spiring on us, They keeping track of

(01:09:23):
who's awake, who's not awake, like Dutch says, they're using
the celebrities and social media to sold discord between us,
and to me, that's part of MKO, to mind control.
You know, they definitely have infiltrated black groups Israelite camps.
Don't think that they're not in your camp, because they're

(01:09:44):
in your fucking camp. If they've been doing this shit
all this time, from the fifties, sixties, seventies, it never stopped.
I don't know why you don't think that they're viewing
these woken negroes quote unquote these Israelite groups as a threat,
because they are, and they have put out information like that,
like I said, some of their tactics where they'll put

(01:10:05):
out little tidbits of information about certain groups, and they
have done that. You've seen that in the media or whatever.
So really, black unity is a threat, all right, And
like we said, now all of a sudden, they're attacking
the black family, the black couples, every freaking thing on
the damn black media. You got remy mind, pat posts.
They trying to dismantle black love. They don't represent black

(01:10:28):
we know black love has got nothing to do with them.
But that's like almost like a metaphor, like we're going
to be dismantling black love. We're ripping that apart. You know,
you've got stupid ass toxic relationships being displayed man versus women,
CARTI being offset DDG, Holly Bailey and like Dasha and
Meghan is dying in the Tory Lane situation. So it's crazy.

(01:10:51):
And then as far as some of these modern black leaders,
a lot of them are industry adjacent, and some of
the stuff that they talk about is some really good stuff,
like people like Tarek Nasheed and Riza Islam and even
doctor Umar. But a lot of them are compromised, and
I believe that they're agents because they're very industry connected

(01:11:12):
and very industry adjacent. That's just my opinion, all right.
So that's all I have. I thought it was a
good film to talk about. You know, we've talked about
this before with some of the Black Panther shows. But
that's all I have. You have anything that you want
to close with? Dutch?

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
All right? Peace, South Barakata