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July 27, 2025 76 mins
In this episode, Dutch & Tena talk about the TikTok crazed Labubu dolls and how most mainstream toys are rooted in the occult. Tune in to hear our full discussion.

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(01:51):
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Speaker 2 (02:22):
We're so what's going on? Yo?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Do we introduce ourselves, miss.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
You boy, Dust, the Visionary and ten of the Real List. Yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
So Satan has been coming to collect. We had three
major celebrity deaths this past week. Ozzie Osbourne, Hulk Hogan
and Malcolm Jamal Warner and Ozzie Osbourne. How old was he?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
H seventy one?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
He was seventy something.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
One.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Hulk Hogan he was seventy six, Okay, yeah, I don't know.
You know, everybody knew who he was growing up, but
I couldn't tell you a song I saw a nigga's
part of that evil ass shit, you know what I mean.
Like he comes from a group called the Black Sabbath.
So there you go. Okay, just clear double worshippers. We're

(03:30):
gonna get into the Satanic panic in the eighties with
this episode. So I'm sure he was part of that
Hulk Hogan's racist ass.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Right.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
It's so disappointed because you know how many Black people
fuck with Hulk Hogan. I know, well before we knew
how racist he was. Yeah, like a lot like rapp
Us constantly, like you know, put him in their songs. Yeah,
he's a bar like nah, I know, I know what
you mean. So it's just like, mm, he really discussed

(04:04):
a lot of us these past few years. He said
a lot of racist shit. I'm talking about outside of
him just trying to be sucking Donald Trump's dick, you
know what I'm saying. With the mag of stuff I'm
just talking about before that he's been exposed. Yeah, so
he died, Hm, we don't know how to.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Social media kind of went into a frenzy of it
was it was, uh, black people making for at least
on black social media. I'll say black Twitter or black whatever,
you know what I mean. It was like, oh, you know,
your niggas looked like Semeo Jackson from Dudjango saying ri
ip Hulk Hogan and everything you know. And cause, for

(04:48):
those who don't know what it is that he said
back in the day that pissed people off, I guess
at one point his daughter had a black boyfriend and
he was like, I mean, I'd rather she was going
to fuck some nigger. I'd rather have her marry a
foot tall nigga worth a one hundred million dollars like
a basketball player. I guess for all the little racist

(05:10):
fucking nigger.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Maybe trying to be trying to pinpoint Steve, Steve Cole,
Steve Auston, but we ain't got no evidence that they
could be a racist, No.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Evidence gives racist. But he might not even be. He
might not be. But you know, I feel like it's, uh,
let's what's the word hypocrisy? Yeah, because and I could
quote many many black parents over the decades, who's probably said, oh,

(05:42):
my black daughter marries white man, he better be some
rich white man. They always say, So, that's not the
problem that nigger, right, I get that, I know, I
get that. I get that, but you know, people don't
like the words it is being used. But even so,
we can say if my daughter marries a cracker, it

(06:02):
better be a rich cracker.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Oh no, that's real, because I'm gonna be like, I
don't want you marrying a fucking swine ass mayo aise.
I don't want to know mayonnaise on your arm, on
your elbow.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
The point saying like the terminology because people always wouldn't
be all but heard about words. Was he wrong for
saying that that that's what it is?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Wrong? Yeah, that's wrong.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yes, So if it was the opposite, I'm.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Saying it's wrong because you're saying the word. But we're
not about to say fuck the word when it applies
to us when it comes to that word.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
And uh yeah, because so so it's not the fact
that he was saying she better marry some rich basketball
player if he's black. And if you said, straight up,
let's say he's say a nigger. Let's say if my
daughter go and fuck with a black guy. It's just
better be some eight foot tall basketball player, a rich
black guy. If he would have said those words, would
would triggered.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
They s would have been triggered. But sheason. Why I
don't give a fuck now is because I know damn
sure that I wasn't doing my kids not to bring
home no fucking white anything.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
I'm being honest, right, you can't control that.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
I'm gonna control it because I'm not gonna have a
relationship with you. Yeah, I'm an extremist. Call me a
fucking black KKK extremists because that's what they call people
like us. I don't care your mother said that to you.
Your mom almost like you better not bring home no
white bitch. And what happened. You ain't bring home no

(07:32):
white bitch. It just be like that.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I had white girls that like me over the years. Yeah,
we ain't.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Actually all I had mayonaist that mayonnaise.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
You know, I'm both elbows, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Wrong with just what has that got to do with
what I just said? Nothing?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Absolutely nothing yetnah And and people some people get angry,
but oh, you know, just like racism will never die
because everybody's racist, and I.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Used to feel like that when I was younger, I did,
But now that I know the true about who we
are and how we shouldn't be race mixing, I don't
care if people say that. I respect that, you know
how like the Asians, especially like the Koreans, they be
disowning a family. You know what I'm talking about if
they bring home something black, I'm gonna be just like
the motherfuckers. If you bring home anything that's not black, nigga,

(08:18):
I'm disowning you, just like how them Koreans do to
they people like the fuck you bringing home this shit for.
I'm being honest. I know y'all like damn yup, I
said it, but that's no disrespect to anybody who is
biracial listening to us. You can't control your parents, and
I'm sure you love your parents. I'm not telling you you're
not to love your parents, but I'm being honest. Or
people who are in these type of relationships. You get

(08:40):
what I'm saying because it's people who've been in these
relationships and felt the same way, Like love is love.
We don't have hate in our heart for other people.
But now that I know the truth about certain things right,
and y'all even the Bible, we had people like me
and Maya that was going off on the Israelites for
you know, marrying the range women like you know, we're

(09:01):
not supposed to be doing that. We're just not. And
then you know, good luck if they could relate to
you really, like if they could relate to you spiritually,
you know what I mean? Like, I don't know, m
I be feeling like that should be surface level what
you think. I know, they'd be having deep relationships. But
sometimes that shit don't work out, you know, right, you've

(09:24):
seen that sh your firsthand, right, I don't know how
we got here, right, like click, I ain't coming back
to this podcast, Shorty said she is this way. Yep,
call me racist even though I can't be call me racist?
So yeah, what else at hue kolk And said that

(09:46):
was controversial about us?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
I don't know. I ain't die too deep into everything.
There's people already out there that's doing conspiracy videos if
you guys want to go look those up in regards
to whole Cogan and then you know the whole conspiracy
between him, Ozzy Osbourne and uh theo you know, passing
away these last couple of days you could go look

(10:10):
those up. But one thing that did find slightly interesting
was the wrestling, at least to a wrestling right. This
whole shit is like ww this whole matrix, Right, they
tell you what's going on. It's a few things that
kind of kicked off. And what they call the turning heel,
I guess is when the wrestler who's been the quote

(10:31):
unquote good guy turns into the villain. Yeah, at least
the character. Yes, you know what I mean. And I
was trying to like, I'm like, I'm not the biggest
wrestling fan, like just a preppycire. There's other people out
here who can go crazy on wrestling and break down.
But whole Hogan was once the hero. I don't know
if whole Cogan left the w w F as the hero.

(10:53):
I think he left as a villain. So then you know,
you turn the heel and then you pass the tours
to the next guy. And I can't remember, I don't
know who the next guy was after Whole Cogan, but
we don't see them try to pull the Kurt angle
as the hero.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
He was definitely a villain at they tried, but he
embraced the villain, you know what I mean, That's why
he he was He's a favorite for that. I don't
feel like he was really a hero though, because people
used to be like.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
They tried to make him that that was the American hero.
That's but everyone was like, fuck this motherfucker right. Yeah,
And then you know, of course the stone Cold who
was the villain versus the Rock who was the hero.
And then you know when they turned the Hill to
give the torch to John Cena, who was the hero
for like the last decade, and now they gave it
to that new white boy, Cody Roads, and then that's

(11:43):
the whole, that's the whole turning Hill. Now John Cena
is the villain. So I feel like all that coincides
with the depth of the character of Whole Cogan.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
And the Undertaker is the master of.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
The right, you know what I mean. So you know,
it's some in there for those who want to die
conspiracy into it. It's it's a crazy lure with the
w W E with that. You know, Vince mcmaney and
spoke about Whole Cogan and his documentary.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Nigga is on the same Diddy charges And like I said,
white people let that ship Sweep under the Rug created
a whole Netflix series about him, and they did not
like sensationalize it like how they did Diddy.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
And then you know, and musically I said it to
the realists earlier she said that, you know, it's it's
a punchline that other people. I'm sure other rappers have
probably said it before or used it in such a way,
but for the timing of it, always thought it was interesting,
uh that because Drake had an album that came out
earlier this year, and on one of the songs, he

(12:43):
has said, niggas want to see niggas want to see
ripped me on a T shirt like I'm whole Cogan.
I just think it's just very not ironic.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
But it's just because it's like ri P.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, ripped me r I P on a T shirt
like I'm whole Cogan. It's almost as if he you
not like he like you know what I'm saying, Like
he knew this that was going to happen and within
this year, and then you know, you get the okay
to say something like that on a song later on
it happens, you know what I mean? All for Lore
and Halkkan dies and then he goes and drops some
other shit. So I feel all these things happen for

(13:17):
it's all scripted, Like ke telling people, it's all scripted.
People keep telling me, oh, give them too much credit,
like they wizards and shit like that, and I'm like, nigga, yeah,
and I'm like, you know, I don't want to argue
with too many people who act like they don't know
because they they are within the ships, you know. Yeah,

(13:40):
there's a lot of agents out here who are within.
They're in the the illuminatis and the lodges and stuff.
They in it, and they know that the ship. I
will come out and just be saying, you're having some
truth to it. It might not all the way be
one hundred percent correct, but like ninety percent of these
niggas want to try to uh discredit what I'm saying, like, oh,

(14:01):
you're just one of them. Fake crazy guys will get
these niggas too much credits sometimes and even that deep
and I'm like, eh, nine times out of ten, it
is that deep. You probably just ain't get your degrees
up to know how deep that shit really is. This
shit is all scripted. It's not ironic that Ozzy Osbourne
one of the niggas who blatantly had like satanic symbolisms

(14:23):
from on his body clothes home one of the darkest
niggas call us up the dark Prince right for the
Prince of Darkness, and he dies, and then one of
the world's you know, favorite love wrestlers die along with
I would I want to. I don't want to discredit
THEO for being.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
A great actor, very memorable.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
In the right right, So just just to just to
fuck with everyone's emotions. So you got all the evil
satan niggas all mad that their prince died. Black people
upset that one of their you know, childhood people growing up,
we watched them grow up, you know what I mean, died,
and then a wrestler just do on top.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
It's not it's not Irony's.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Always there's other celebrities that died to this last probably
a couple of days that you know, we're just not
gonna mention and act like, you know, we're not going
to do to sets of threes things. But they but they,
but they do put the three They put this three
combination out there for us, and yeah, man, it's just
nasty work. I don't even want to get into it.
People need to and there's people out there arguing that

(15:28):
eyes want not to say in this I think that
ship is asnin to me. It's like, get set up.
What's wrong with you? Oh he's been you know, if
you do your research. He actually tried to uh, you know,
not try but he announced Satan and he uh tried
to turn his life over to God. And he actually
been saying he's Christian for the last couple of years.
I'body saying he says he's Christian. I'm supposed to just

(15:52):
be like, well.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Okay, no, that's what That's the same thing the you know,
the yeah, the Jesus is King album, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Saying oh I made Jesus walk, I'm never going to hell.
That's like his favorite line to say.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Ozzie Osbourne got a song called Mister Crowley that's a
non was called Black Sabbath, which is they trying to
make it like a flip on the holy day that
the Most High gave us to rest. They turned it
into something dark, evil and wicked. What the fuck are
we doing here? Man? It's like they are most obvious.
Y'all tider with the hip hop people, fine, because it's

(16:28):
not that much in your face even though it is
but dumb niggas, I give it to them. They was,
they was in your face with it, and it was like,
this is what we do. They had to Satan pentagrams,
they had all the demonic ship, so it was in
your fight.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
The Ozzie ship was so it's so it's so dark
that it's crazy. Because I didn't get to talk to
him about that. Under that sounds I'm mentioning it, but
this was. This is a coworker of Mons. Of course
he's white. And one day we was doing something them
and the sequence of the sixes came up right there.

(17:03):
So he was like, oh, he said, what just the
sixers to scare you? And I was like, does scare me?
You know what I'm saying. It's not about being scared.
It's not a fear. It's just a thing.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
So why did he ask you that?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Because I was just like, oh, and it's the last
thing is three sixes. Because I didn't want to say it,
you know what I'm saying. So anyway, he starts talking
about Ozzy Osbourne the Black Sabbath about it, and he
said he's telling the story about how a customer had
complained to the company the supermarket for having Black Sabbath

(17:38):
music playing in the grocery store because of the demonic
stuff that they have, you know that they say on
songs and things of that nature, you know what I mean? Yeah,
And she's like, you shouldn't have these kind of songs playing.
And so these songs like this has been no messed
up in controversial since the eighties and nineties when they
came out. We actually be having this playing in the
grocery store. So they took that kind of music, that

(17:59):
kind of music all the radio in the grocery store.
But the fact that that even system amongst the white community,
because that's their people's you know what I mean, Why
what are we really talking about here? Why y'all arguing
me that this nigga's a Christian And I shouldn't been
saying for anybody.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Who's even trying to like say that they're a Christian,
like Kirk Franklin, that niggas a fucking homosexual and he's
evil too. He's a Warlow too. So it don't matter
if they like upward like an Ozzie Osbourne or who's
that nigga that Uzzi beats Dick sucking yeah, man, well
Marilyn Manson whatever, or if they freaking Tambala Man and

(18:37):
Kirk Franklin. Honestly they working for the same people. Yeah,
it's tragic, right. People can't see that. They're like, how
come you say that about k.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
They see it, they don't want to see it. They
see it. Well, look, Gugs is attended Panagram. Bring on
his shirt on I Was Born shirt. That's not a pentagram,
that's a that's just a star. That's a star of David.
That's I have a goat in the middle of it
because he likes goals. He likes goat meat, you know

(19:05):
what I mean. That's so that's not that's Oh, that's
just bro. That's that Billy Joe's bro. That's to Billy
Joe's goat.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Oh okay, you know.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
And this is what they argue with you about you
trying to dismiss the facts. And I think that's again
I always say to people, that's what's most disheartening about
the world that we live in, because they're always trying
to dismiss the facts because they want to live in
a false reality.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
But yeah, most people, we're not going to.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Sit here and talk about this left so much. I said,
you can go through your own deep diving if you want.
Maybe we might devidicate an episode to it. Maybe if
it gets juicy enough for us to dive into. This
is ABC's it's regular shit that happens now. I don't
even care. I just laugh at it at this point,
you know what's going on?

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Anything else? Do you want to get straight to the episode?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Episode?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
All right? This is episode two seventy three, and the
title of this show is called Toys Are Evil.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Toys are E.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Toys Are E. But so that's a spin on toys
r ust of.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Course, like you had to announce that last part. Listen, listen,
damn god, she really just be in That's not true.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
That's not true. Okay, I'm just corny and you know.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Nah, she really felt like you guys didn't catch that.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
So a lot of people have been talking about la
boobo dolls, right, that's been the trend on TikTok. But
we want to talk about toys and the occult in general,
because toys are actually rooted not all, but a lot
of toys are rooted in witchcraft and occulted symbolism. So

(20:55):
people think toys are just harmless, but a lot of
them are not. And we also have to remember when
it comes to mainstream merchandise, right, that's masks produced and
distributed it like across the country internationally. A lot of
the times it's being made by evil corporations that do

(21:17):
serve Satan, right, and they pray over these products. And
when it comes to like a toy, you're bringing that
into the house just like any other type of object
which could be loaded with spirits, right, And a lot
of toys, you know, come with spirits, not even just
toys like say say go on vacation, right Dutch. You

(21:39):
see like a mask from I don't know, the Bahamas,
you get it all. Look at this mask, that mask,
actually some warlock or witch prayed over that shit, right,
certain spirits that they tied to it. You bring that
back into the home, not those spirits is in your house,
and you know it's fucking up the atmosphere, jump in
and out of you know, your people. You things like that.

(22:00):
So I always think about child's play, right when it
comes to Chucky. I think that was probably the most
blatant display of what they do with toys, right, because
everybody knows and if you don't know Chucky, he was
just like an Ozzy Osbourne, like a heavy metal litteral warlock. Right.

(22:23):
He was a Satanist and he was dying, and I
think he was like a mass murderer. I forgot the
backstory too. He was just an evil ass nigga. Right.
So he was dying and he just so happened to
run into like a toy store, right with the good
guy dolls, and so he did some type of satanic
spell to put his dying spirit into one of the

(22:45):
good guy dolls. And that's how we got the birth
of Chucky, all right. They even in like the Bride
of Chucky. They showing what's her name, Jennifer Tilly, got
the whole satanic pensagrim the candles. She's trying to bring
back Chucky because you know, she's like, I gotta bring
back Chucky because I was his girlfriend or whatever. So
they're showing you that they do pray over these toys,

(23:06):
something as simple as a doll, right, and they are
mass producing it put it in people's households. There are
a lot of parents who have you know, revealed stories
of the doll kind of moved on its own you
know what I'm saying things like that, not us toys
in general, not just the little Bubu dolls.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, I mean, I ain't gonna fint. I remember being
a kid, I really I was. Iused to want that
so bad. And men in the cupboard. I wanted that's
just so bad. I wanted to put my little fucking
toys in the cupboard, turn the key and open the
thing up. And my motherfuckers was talking to me.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
That's the psyche behind it. And I'm going to talk
about this book that I was reading, that's the psyche
behind it. Because even Toy Story, I used to do
the same thing. I used to I have Woody, I
had Jesse Buzz Like there all them, I put him
in a room. I run out.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Let me see if I can catch them.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Like, that's the chilenge.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
From my Small Soldiers for that ship. Like horn guys
talk and.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
The niggas talk, and what's the backstory, Small Soldiers. It
was an AI ship with some demonic ship that madors
come to life. Yeah, it was going crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
And now you watch the.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Toy Soldiers again, Small Soldiers, Yeah, that's what they had.
The gargoyle looking creatures and they had the army, and
of army niggas was the bad guys and the monsters wasn't.
And look at that reverse the dmonic look at monsters.
They positioned that toy as like the protagonists or the heroes,
and then the regular human looking you know, soldiers, they

(24:39):
were actually the evil ones. Small soldiers, you said, small soldiers. Yeah.
So something that's innocent as a doll, like a Barbie doll,
even Transformers, it has like evil origins to it. And
just like how Dushes gave an example like oh, you
know the ny and the cupboard, right, you wanted to

(25:00):
see here to try to catch your toys talking. That
is like an attack almost on your subconscious mind, right,
because these movies and these cartoons that are especially links
to toys, they're usually rooted in something evil, like, for instance,

(25:21):
Monsters Inc. We've talked about this before, how Monsters Inc. Oh,
innocent Pixar Disney movie. Right, No, it's actually a movie
about adrenochrome, about demons, right, demonic forces, monster spirits coming
in and they're sucking out the energy of the children
the adrenochrome by scaring them. We're looking at it like, oh,

(25:45):
dotty dotty dotty the no you get what I'm saying
is that's how deep it gets. So even as something
that's you trying to like recreate a scene in a movie. No,
these are these are inanimate objects. They're not supposed to
be coming to life. But if they are moving, and
that means there's some demonic work at hand. You know

(26:06):
what I'm saying. It's almost like we're trying to conjure
upt spirits. Does that make sense? Like that's almost what
it is. So like when it comes to children, and
children of course are very impressionable, right, and the younger
they are, they more they soak up things. So like
even us as children do all these different films TV shows,

(26:28):
the high sugar content, like the cereal, it's all this
master formulations, this master formula that is turning us into monsters. Monsters, Yeah,
like satanic programmed monsters.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I was telling I was telling my family, it's not
it's not even our fault. I go, I don't want
us to beat ourselves up too much. It's our fault once,
you know, when we don't do nothing about it.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
I agree, that's what it becomes our fault.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
But after time, like going through it is not your fault.
It's what it was literally taught to do. You know,
it was brainwashed into this. So don't be too hard
in yourself when you, you know, think about this stuff.
You know, it's a slow process that gets yourself off

(27:21):
of the things that you were just traditionally taught to
do from generation to generation to generation. You got you've
got your great grandmother telling you to do something. In
your grandmother and your mom, you're gonna be doing that shit,
you know what I mean, It's true. So yeah, that's
why I was just saying, you know, it's not even
our fault, man, but continue.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah. So, like when it comes to children, right, the
birth of their creativity, and my opinion begins with using
their imagination. And we can't talk about toys without talking
about imagination right right, because when a child is playing
with a toy.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
They're just using their imagination.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, they're projecting their imagination. Yeah, I mean, we still
have it. It's called cret it's our creative edge. When
we're like thinking about no, you're doing stupid stuff messing
with me. That's childless. I ain't talking about you sitting back,
Let me think of like something creative to do you know,
that's part of it, you know. And imagination is it's

(28:21):
a right brain function. And if any of you guys
are familiar with our Mind versus Matter shows, we talk
about the subconscious, the conscious mind, the super conscious mind, right,
the ten levels of consciousness. Just go to Mind versus
Matter type it in on our website Www. Dot the
relistvisionary dot com. Anyways, the subconscious mind that houses our imagination,

(28:42):
and that's where we gain our spiritual perception. So if
you have toys that are rooted in darkness and evil,
along with the cartoons, the movies, everything else, all these
other outside stimuli, that is going to shape a child
to be normalized to culture practices and to maybe even
continued on in their adulthood. Right, And that's what we

(29:03):
see today with all these people with the rocks playing.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
With the rocks like literally like like I'm telling you folks,
it's a psychological warfare. And again, it's not even your fault.
It's not like when kids turn out that way, it's
not an their faults, your parents fault. And then his
parents fought before that got the welcome in from Halloween,
right the Halloween, and then it's the character that they

(29:26):
want to emulate on Halloween. Yeah, thing, and then they're
going nine times out of tending when to emilate the
character that they that their parents is probably obsessed with
for some reason, My parents is obsessed with that that
girl Wednesday from from that Wednesday show.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
So I'm gonna wear Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
So I'm gonna be Wednesday, and Wednesday represents her what
some type of demonic fun's going to be within that child.
And now that's that girl that the little child gets older,
she's going to be some goth as where Oh bitch
that girl. You know what I'm saying. You know what
I'm saying, You just bread that into.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Because toys like shape are our morals and social ethics.
Like it really does, I know, as simple as that,
it really does. Like for instance, I'll give you an example,
you know, like the kitchen nettes that we had, like
things like that. Yeah, that kind of like shapes us
into adulthood stages like oh, learning proper etiquette in the

(30:21):
kitchen or cooking and cleaning, that type of social play,
or even down to the baby dolls with me and
Dutch discuss off you know, the podcast. Like with baby Dolls,
it's like why are we forcing little baby girls to
pretend to be mothers at such a young age, right, right?

(30:41):
And that's part of it.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
It's like like when me and my cousins used to
play with our toys, we was like, you know, I'm thinking,
but what we used to emulate school?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
I used to love doing that.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
One cousin would go pretend she was a teacher, and
she'll have all our toys in the room with her.
It's just set up like a I assuming she'll be
doing her no, just reteaching herself the things that she
known in school is she's teaching the toys imagination.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
And then yeah, me and my.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Other cousin will be the bust drivers of her picking
them up to bring them home, and that a lot
and repeat. That was our imagination, but it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
No.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
All we gonna pretend she's a mom and she's walking
around with a fucking baby car and a baby toy.
She acting like she's a mom.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, it goes far. It's like some girls are like
acting like they breastfeeding. That's se weird, you know, like
they'll have the baby doll to their chests and things
like that.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
That's that strange stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, but you see how toys are shaping us. Because
sometimes even that type of play, people were like I
used to pretend to be a teacher, and then what
they do when they want an adult and be a teacher,
They became a teacher, you know. So it's just as
simple as that. Just like a little brief history when
it comes to toys. Toys became industrialized in the eighteenth
and nineteenth centuries, so because that's where like toy production

(31:58):
became monumental. So they was able to like mass produce
all these different like toys and goods and things like that.
And so they were saying that toys became a crutch
for parents, and I was like, ain't that interesting back then?
You know what the new crutches for parents? iPads, The
motherfucking iPad babies, the tablet babies.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
They're just getting on my nerves. People all know, I
gotta get my kid on my phone. Why give your
kid a fucking book, Give him a toy. You'm a toy,
you know, Like I remember I never asked my parents
for like they sell your device growing up, because then,
you know, granted, we ain't have cell phones like that
till like what two thousand and seven eight, when we
started to get cell phones for real, to start get

(32:39):
a little danced with sidekicks, but like, yeah, we'll bring
a toy outside. I love. I love when I see
a kid that has a toy that they still attached
to it and they're like eleven, Yeah, I love that twelve,
like my little cousin. It took him till, like I
think he was like nineteen twenty when he finally.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
This is any there's this toy story made about him.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
He finally like let go and put his toys away. Really,
he probably still, like me, probably keeps one or two
in the cut really, but yeah, but he it took
him like a long time to finally let his toy
like not that he stayed in his imagination, but he'll
still have his toys. Like just around nobody's still playing
with your toys. It's okay, you know what I mean,
you don't gotta don't.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Age.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
It was like, you know what do I think he
was still just like the toy reminded you of your
childhood that you're losing.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well, I'll keep certain things like right now in this
room that we're and you see my stuff animals, But
that's sentimental to me because something that my father gave me.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, I'm talking. I'm talking about a toy, like you
know what I mean. Like it's just like he said,
It's like that's why I hold my old video game
so so near and dear to my heart, you know
what I mean. Yeah, I still hold my my first
game Boy, to the second one, to the third one.
I still play sometimes because it just brings me back
to your childhood that as an adult is going. It

(34:00):
feels like it's going. You tell me, I act childish,
not like you have to, not that you have to
act childish something, but I have times and I act
I guess no immature for my age, and you know,
I guess childish in a way. But it's like to me,
it's like in order to continue to keep that youthful spirit,
you have to sometimes still be just childish with certain

(34:20):
things in your life that you still care about, because again,
our childhood is just shattered now. I don't even know
what it is for kids to be kids anymore, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, Because like it's crazy how back then you know
toys and like the TV, the TV was the iPad
back then, right.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
The biggest eye that we has a TV.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
And they was like, any of your box, like you know,
all of the rays like Dutch always breaks down. That
really has a negative impact on the child upbringing. It's
like it's feeding so much information to the child they
can't even process it all thoroughly, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
And it's like you got the danger of the ones
who they might overprocess it and crash out when they
get older.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, are those start to emulate whatever you know they're
saying on the TV. But even with the toys becoming
a crutch for parents, that's interesting. This is like, okay,
go over here. It's the same thing, but I prefer
the toy over the electronic device. But the thing is,

(35:20):
even when it will just group it all together, the
toys and the tablets, right when they say in a crutch.
One side is especially for the toys, Okay, they can
use their imagination, it can grow, it can continue to
birth their creative side, right, their creative skills. But then
on the flip side, the solitary play that can kind
of stunt a child's social skills. That's why you said

(35:43):
a lot of the iPad babies and electronic babies, the
tablet babies they can't speak, they can't talk, and throwing
shots of autism. You heard me, like the shots vaccine
shots of autism, right, you know, the the food. It's
just like these kids don't stand a chance. They don't
stand a chance. They don't and Satan can infiltrate the

(36:06):
mind through the child when they're by themselves. Get it
like they're by themselves getting into some weird shit on
the tablet, right.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Don't don't think that the tablet doesn't know that mommy
is not in the room and I'm about to spit
some fucked up ship out to this kid real quick,
and he's gonna click on it and he's gonna he
gonna remember this image. Don't think that the tablet is
not scanning that room or that TV, that that smart
TV that it's seventy eight inch that you just got,

(36:37):
you know what I'm saying. Don't think it doesn't know
you're not in the room and your kid is watching
Lulu Mellon and he was about to go to a
commercial breaks and you left the room. Don't think that
at night when you give your kids your phone so
you could go to see because you got work in
the morning your kid is crashing out that the phone
or something that is not taking this opportunity to suspend
some shit to your kid. Don't think that it's not.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Oh yeah, definitely, don't think.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
That it is not. I want you to really know,
Like like talking talking to people who we grew up
through this Internet, we watched this Internet come to what
it is. Me my friends talk about this often, how
we wash this Internet kind of evolved to what the
fuck it is and it's kind of wocky, like I'm
talking about from AOL dial up. Folks, you're talking to
the generation who came from AOL dial up, gateway computers, CD,

(37:24):
ROM vhs all the way into USB, downloadable content, crowd
stream stream. That's where we're at right now. We watched
this shit evolve and it beat them. Late nights when
no one's around is when that fucked up ship on
the Internet that's gonna fuck with your brain pops up.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Oh yeah, if you leave that shit on sometimes I'll
wake up, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 (37:52):
It's be an ad you ain't never see before.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I'll wake up to some weird ass like especially, don't
let it be on the weird ass cartoon network. After hours,
you'll see all kinds of satanic images, bofeman images pop up.
I used to be like, I can never leave it
on this show twelve o'clock. Oh, it gets dark, it
gets real dark.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Don't go ahead, We're gonna say.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
And we continueing with these toys.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, with the toys. So there's this book, right, there's
a book that was written in the eighties. It was
published nineteen eighty six by an author name Phil Phillips.
And the book is called Turmoil in.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
The Toy Box phil Phillips.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I know his parents was like, really really parents. Anyways,
the book is called Turmoil in the Toy Box, right,
And in the book he's trying to inform parents on
the evil of the toys. This is in the eighties,
the late eighties, right, were talking about all this other shit.
Now I can only imagine what he thinks. Now this

(38:54):
man is still living, He's probably like, damn, this ship
went darker than what I thought. And he was pretty
spot I don't know how dark it was gonna get,
especially with the television. I bet he didn't foresee the tablets.
But anyways, yeah, he just you know, unmasked the New Age,
the cults, all the satanic influences that are a part
of toys right. And then he also talks about, you know,

(39:20):
the dangers of the television set, like I said, and
the book was released during the Satanic panic era. Now
we have a show that compliments this one. It's called
The Polybya's Game Conspiracy. I don't remember the episode, but
just look up that that's the exact title, The Polybyus
Game Conspiracy, and we talk about how in what was

(39:43):
the damn place in the CIA, right, they had a
particular game in an arcade in what the hell was
the name of the location that you forgot to see, Portland, Portland,
organ There was a the arcade and Portland, orgon where
they had this game called Polybeus or whatever, and it

(40:05):
was actually an mk Ultra mind control project. And we
talk about the gaming right, the gaming industry, and how
that has infiltrated the children's minds right with all the
evil influences. So go to that episode too, where we
talk more about the gaming side, but we're gonna focus
on toy today. But either way, Yeah, it's a good read.

(40:26):
And if you guys actually wanted to read this for free,
you can go to a website called archive dot org, right,
and you can just type in the title and you
can literally borrow this book. It's like like a little
virtual library and you can read it for free. You
don't got to do anything else. You gotta sign in
and then you just hit borrow and then it'll give

(40:47):
you the entire books to read virtually. So yeah, they
really get into the psyche, you know, like the child
psyche things like that. I'm gonna read a few experts
from the actual book, so I don't even have the
page numbers anyways, y'all do y'all research, all right, So

(41:10):
I'm gonna read one paragraph as children watch television, right,
and this is part of I guess the electronic TV chapter.
And in they fixed state, right, they begin to receive
information on a passive level, rather than actively deciphering the

(41:33):
information as it is received. So while a child passively
receives incoming stimuli, the right hemisphere of the brain is developed,
but the development of the left hemisphere of the brain
is inhibited. So the right hemisphere controls visual spatial development
in the child and the left hemisphere controls verbal analytic development. So,
like we said, these kids are not gonna be able

(41:55):
to properly articulate and socialize with other childildren and adults.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
So that's and I want to know if not all kids,
because not all the kids is affected by the TV
in this form. It's the ones that are just constantly fated.
Though some kids are actually really smart and they could
adapt and they learn some shit from watch some shit.
But those ones you gotta be here with because they
gonna learn too much too quick, you know, I mean, yeah,

(42:23):
and then crash out later. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
No. Author also just talks about how toys that are
linked to cartoons, right, such as like mythical characters, things
that like glamorize mystical powers. This is where they kind
of start to idolize these different objects in these creatures
over you know, the most high for example, right, I

(42:51):
don't know if there's like a cartoon, I don't know,
like Sabrina the teenage Witch. I don't know if she
had any dolls or toys she has You're like, oh,
I love the witch Sprina and look all the cool
things she could do and the kitty cat that talked
and her aunts, her aunties, right, glorified evil, They glorify

(43:12):
it and then they're gonna recreate that in their house.
I remember doing as a child, just watching like Casper,
like Casper the friendly goach, Like, oh, Windy the Witch,
I'm gonna be Windy the Witch. So now you're in
the house presiding to be a witch. You see how
I go. Y'all get it. You see how deep it is.
And people try to write it off like, oh, it's
not serious, No, it really is. It's grooming your child

(43:33):
to be a Satanist. It's grooming your child to be
a witch. A warlive and now why do you think
we have so many witches today? Like I'm not dead ass,
Like exactly, I'm a pixie. I'm a witch. This has
some stems in their childhood and probably some of the
toys or the content that they consume themselves with. Right,

(43:58):
and then you know they give an example of like
he man. You know, he Man, that's an old ass toy.
But the he man, I think the child something the
mom is driving somewhere. I don't know if they almost
got into an accident or something, and the mom was like, oh, praise,
of course you're gonna say Jesus or whatever. And then

(44:20):
you know the child's like why do you say that
he Man is the master of the universe? Like that's
her story. I'm paraphrasing it, but something along the lines
like why are you praising the most high? You should
be praising he Man Because to a child who's watching
he Man and got the toy, he Man is the
master of universe because that's what the damn cartoon says,

(44:40):
and that's how he's playing with it. You guys see
the connection. So it's just something like that. It's the
deception is planting the seeds that's gonna birth into something real,
wicked and evil in the as when they grow as
an adults. You know, and and you know, even down

(45:02):
to books, we all say toys and books are better,
but it really depends on what the toys and the
books represent what they are because even with books, I
remember as a child in elementary school, there's an author
named Judy Bloom, Right, Judy Bloom has books like Forever,
I forgot some of the other ones. You know that

(45:23):
that book has sexual content in it and we're reading
it like in elementary school, like kid, you not, like
there are books that were in our library that has
sexual content and she's supposed to be a child's author,
and we're reading this in our early stages in elementary
school where they have a scene where old girls having

(45:46):
sexus in her virginity with her from you know, her boyfriend.
Why are we reading this in elementary school? You know,
I know y'all probably seen the videos of parents that
are going to these city council meetings or these board
of education meetings and they're up there protesting, talking about
why is this content in my child's you know, school's library.

(46:10):
And there was a parent who read like portions of
the book and it was some explicit, weird shit. And
it really is like that. I could attest to that
because like my friends is like passing the book along,
like Luke was in here, read this book, and we're like,
what is this shit? You know, we real, real young.
So yeah, that's just how like this type of content

(46:31):
and the toys really infiltrate the mind. Now, the author
kind of talks about the toys of the eighties, so
they talk about like the cabin Patch dolls, the cabbage
Patch babies, right and Barbie. Now, when it comes to
the cabins Patch dolls, there's a YouTuber, right black, but

(46:52):
what's his name? Black Balloon, what's his name? Yeah, he
does an episode talking about the Cabbage Patch kids. Right, yeah,
So I didn't really get into it because you have
to do a deep dive. But it's rooted in them
having like these cloning these clone lab babies in a sense.

(47:13):
So that's the history when it comes to the Cabbage
Patch dolls. You know, even the person who was the creator,
he had like he called his factory something similar along
the lines to that, like oh, yeah, you know you
can you can harvest or you get these get these
babies like as a hospital some weird some weird shit.

(47:36):
All right, y'all look it up, but something along the
lines of that. And then uh to me with Barbie, right,
I think that Barbie it kind of like especially that
there was no black Barbies or no representation like how
they have it today. It's more so like uh vanity,

(47:59):
like oh here's the ideal body proportions. This is what
you wanna be, like fashionable, like just I think that
Barbie promotes vanity to little girls. Yeah right, and I
just remember too with the dolls, like you have the
the Barbie, you got the Ken, So what you gonna do?

(48:19):
You have pregnant Barbie, you got grandparents Barbies. Then you
start reenacting shit that to me is inappropriate. And everybody
who had dolls, you know, was good, you know what
I mean, Like that's what you do. Like, oh yeah,
Barbie and Ken are married, they have the little babies
and all this other stuff like you have your dollhouses
and you're just doing things. Yeah, you're having a good time.

(48:41):
You're playing with your imagination. But then sometimes it can
get borderline like mm, this is getting too grown, you
know what I mean. M So they talk about that
as far as like Barbie her body and then what
do you think too about the the anatomy. You strip
Barbie down, you don't see nothing, but you see the
shape of Barbie, and then Ken too, like things like that.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Barbie's more so like the beauty expectations. But I'm pretty
sure with the Barbie too, I don't know. Remind mean
voodoo dolls? Well, no, since we're here, let's pauls are
on the Tourmoil and the Toy Box Book, and let's
talk about the Laboo Boo dolls. Now, you had came
across the Laboo Boo dolls, what exactly did you see?

(49:34):
People were chatting about.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Before I even was looking at people chatting about it,
I looked at it and just said it shit looks
evil and looked at the name La Boo Boo. It
sounds so close to some voodoo.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
And and there's actually even called I believe it.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
And I did didn't even have to like dive too
deep on my own into the La bull shit and
then showing off. A couple of weeks later, you know,
videos is popping up with people saying and them shits
is evil. I don't have that shit near you. People
who got them shits are weird. Everybody's buying them like
a fashion accessory. I guess it went viral because I
guess high you know, the high end brands was making

(50:20):
their own little like clothing for it, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Ye, And it's weird, So if y'all didn't see it,
y'all can google it. They's some ugly looking fucking dolls,
but should have catch padd of dolls ugly.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
And then then the the other one I keep seeing.
I've seen this shit in Walmart. It's called Fungler.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
This ship called Fungler? I'm gonna to show you right now.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Why are you pulling that up? Let me see that
looks that.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Shit got human. These are toys that being sold in Walmart,
and I've just seeing him in Walmart and they look
like they got human teeth in their mouth called funglers.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
So it's monster looking like the La Booboos.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Now, yeah, but the monsters the book like monsters because
they got like those sharp, demon looking teeth. These shits
have real human looking teeth. Like I'm not even laughing, I'm.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Laughing because it's ugly. There are people making posts about
the toys, talking about how it's very demonic, you know
that you shouldn't buy this for your child. Some people
even posting clips of a Simpsons episode that featured Homer
welcoming a Puzzuzu doll in the house because people are
connecting the Boobos to the Pazuzu demon and so Homer

(51:38):
he welcomed a Puzzuzu doll in the house and it
possessed the youngest sibling, the little baby Maggie, So same thing.
You know. There's another trend too, I don't know if
you've seen it, where parents are saying alexa, like they're
they're trying to like make Alexa commands and the babies
are running away like and they start crying. And there's

(52:02):
like a compilation video of that where like the parents
they think it's funny, they're like hey, Alexa, and then
the baby's face changes immediately and they start crying or
they start getting very uncomfortable things like that. So it's
con it's it's very similar. It's very connected. I mean shit,
like I said, they pray over the toys. You they

(52:24):
bring it home a chucky Yeah, maybe it might not
take out a knife in the kitchen start stabbing you up,
but you wanna white your child's all fucking evil or
acting all crazy, you know what I'm saying. Like the
the the dolls start to invoke spirits like a little
carrier in that house, and all these different spirits gonna

(52:45):
come and answer, especially if you guys ain't living your
life right. So the Labuboos it's a character from a
twenty fifteenth story book. The series is called The Monsters.
So there you go, right, And and I guess they
originally were sold exclusively by a China retailer called pop Mart.

(53:08):
I don't know what the craze is. There's grown people
getting laboo.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Boo dolls, celebrities and all whatever.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
You know what I mean, Shit, everything you think is
innocent ain't anocent. Like, let's go to the Spurfs, right,
the Smurfs.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
The fault the Fungler dolls, who are inspired by British
artists whose idea was to combine fake teeth with stuffy animals.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yew. She envisioned a teddy Bear adorned with human like
dentures after encounting and encountering a bag of false teeth
on eBay.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
That kind of reminds me of what we went through
in slavery for some reason, because you know how they
would take our hair and like stuff, it was like
their couches, or take our skin and make leather and
shit like that. That's what that shit sounded like. Don't
they talk about some human teeth something?

Speaker 1 (54:06):
And these are the Bubu's competitor, So.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
We got demons versus demons.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Folks Like, I don't know, you're about to go for
another tangent of stuff, And I wanted to like not concluded,
but I want me to want to wrap like the
thought process for people. They got like you said, they
got two demon dolls. They got one that looks like
some voodoo monster dolls. And then they got this other
one that I'm sure if you've went deep history diving

(54:34):
on some British old voodoo weird shit. She's a bitch
sewing human teeth into Teddy Bears and she thinks that
shit is supposed to be ugly but heartwarming. You're sowing
fake human teeth into Teddy Bears and telling it to kids.

(54:54):
Are we serious? Yes? Yes, we had trolled o which
you are ugly looking midget diggies. We had I think
of other words, the Bobby dolls.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah, I said, I was getting into the spirit ferbies.
I've getting into the Smurfs because they do the spell casting,
you know, Papa Smurf and shit. Yeah, even in the show,
they've done the pentagram stuff. So when you're bring it
like all these things, like the trolls, all these things
represent the monsters aka the demons, the different you know,
spiritual entities, the different principalities, that is what is representing.

(55:33):
And so it looks all cute and innocent, or maybe
not so cute and innocent, right, and the children are
indulging it. They're bringing home. Like I said, it's getting
into that that, right, hemisphere because it's going through their
imagination and now it's like shaping their their spiritual mind.
So it's either they're going to become so conscious or

(55:57):
very body conscious because none of it is connected to
the most High spirits. So there's no way they can
be spiritually led unless a child is indulging in spiritual content,
you know what I mean, like things that glorify the
most High, or teach them about themselves, their ancestors, history,
or just something that's just simple and innocent, right, because

(56:17):
I feel like you have different kinds of toys. You
have toys that are for learning, right, yep. You have
toys that encourage like cooperative play, communication skills, toys that
build your fine motor skills, like you know, like a Blos,
like wooden blocks. They I don't think nothing's evil with

(56:40):
wooden blocks. You said, what Legos? Yeah, I ain't. Nothing
connects now Lego. Now, if we research the word, that
shit might connect to something evil. But the actual.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Block Legos, to me, was always somewhat Masonic because it's
building blocks, and that's a part of the means a
lot in terms of brick building bricks.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yeah, the eptymology of Lego real quick.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I got to you know, just little bit classics. But
Legos is creative, you know what I'm saying. You actually
build some ship and learn foundations and how certain things work.
I'm surprised no one hasn't try to, like build a
house not made of Lego, but like shape like Legos
with bricks and shit that you'll probably never move. And
connects connects is always cause like connects, connects takes actually

(57:29):
some brain power. You gotta be some someone smart to
put that shit together, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Yeah, like things like that. I don't think there's nothing wrong.
I think when it comes to when it's like monsters
or like dolls, it gets tricky because then it starts
to turn into idolization, like even with the dolls or
the dolls so beautiful, the dolls so pretty, You're like
the children are making idols out of these toys. A
lot of the times, and a lot of these toys
are very evil like. So you know what I'm saying,

(57:55):
I'm trying to see if I can find real quick.
Oh they said it said Danish words for lake gaunt.
Now what does that mean? And it says means play? Well, mm,
I don't have to do some more research, but y'all
look it up to if you tell us if you
find anything. I'm trying to think of some other toys

(58:17):
that I played with that were kind of like now,
if I look back on it, I had the Barbies,
I had the Brats, the brats holes. That's why I
had my dressing. Like the thought like, that's why we
got the fashion nova phase because literally that's how they
dress the brat even the name brats, right, that's like

(58:39):
damnary might as well call the dolls bad bitches. That's
what they trying to inspire. And that's what we are,
not all of us, but that's how some of us
start out to try to emulate. You get know what
I'm saying, Like, hm, and I.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Used to be afraid. You look at the bratstall.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
The girls are still trying to look like brad All today.
And it's not a good thing, but that's what it is.
It's skimpy clothing. It's like programming the mind. Oh this
is que look the bellies out, this is out. It's
how we're trying to dress. You're not modest at all. Hmm.
What are the toys for you? Though? I was like

(59:19):
did you have soldier toys? They say that too in
the book, how like those soldier toys it kind of
gets in the mindset of violence.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Yeah, I mean we had we had some of the
little Green so soldier toys, you know what I mean,
the little Green ones from like Toy Story and Ship.
We had like a set of those. I think every
kid had those growing up in the nineties. But and
you're right though, you know, because every time we will
play with those, it will always be for violent purposes,
you know what I mean, all we act like we're
shooting you, you know what I mean. Yeah, I was

(59:50):
like a power ranger. Can't be even power rangers, you know,
it could be violent. You know, we got some of
them got guns and ship like that, they got swords
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
What the he was on anyway?

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, he was a giant.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Was just like that's got like a like a like
a like an entity.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
It wasn't now he was a person living. He looked
like he was in an incubator machine, not incubator, but
she was in the machiner was keeping him alive.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
He wasn't a person person some type of god or entity.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Like always like an alien god.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like a demon.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Yeah, almost like a demon, a demon? Yeah, and everything
he was just living.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
He wasn't human, nah, I mean he.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Looked at Yeah, it looked like an alien.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
And again and a big head. No no, no, no, no,
his body was in the but his head was in
the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
If they ended up showing him in the movie or
one of an episodes, they ended up showing him like
with because the thing got broke and they had to
see him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Yeah, that was in the movie, right, you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Know what I mean. But but yeah, even that, you
know what I'm saying, he's talking to just this big
old demon head. Hell was it a was talking to
her demon head? Yeah, you know what I mean. But yeah, man,
you know, like all these all these things, man, all
these things, and I ain't trying to taint the truth
of what everybody knows, but all these things have just

(01:01:08):
fucked up history behind it. It's not you know, ain't cool.
It's just not cool. Our biggest beat right now is
he's boom boo dolls. I'm sorry, and these uh fungler dolls,
and he's weirdshire that he's telling the Walmart and around
these toy stores.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
I mean, they got monster dolls, so why get up
and even you know, go back to the monsters doors.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Like you said, like monsters, ain't think about all the
movies that have toys that go with it. I've had
a couple of monsters ain't toys. Growing up? We have Sully.
I had a Sully toy, you know what I'm saying.
I had a I had the Mic toy, you know
what I'm saying. And I got this one I Ellien toy.
And I got this little you know, demon monster toy
and everything. You know, so we had I had a

(01:01:55):
lot of Power Rangers and ship growing up. I think
I have Status Shocked toy. Uh yeah, Diggimond toys, Pokemon toys,
you know what. We had, Mad toys, Wrestling. We had
some wrestling toys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
I had life size and that was even more creepy. Now,
I don't even know why I felt. We liked the
life size Barbie dolls. But I have one. So we
always cut up the hair and fuck up the hair.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
But see I was always chopping some hair and I
did end up getting my costogy license, you know what
I'm saying. As a child, used to like the big
head ones or you just do the hair and I
always be cutting up some hair and ship like that. So,
like I said, do really do shape your ass to
what you kind of like turn out to be or
some parts of your life?

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Ship, I don't know. X sketch, remember those memory games things?

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I had hooked on phonics as a kid. I don't know.
I don't know what the fuck that is. Yeah hooked,
I don't know what the fuck PHONICX is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Damn taking us back I had what I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Don't they find there's even a word out in school
no more.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
See, like we talking about the toys takes us back
to Toys r Ust, even though there's still some that are,
you know, around, very very very rare. But these kids
is not going to have that same experience seeing that
damn draft on the TV commercials, going to the store,
seeing the damn draft in the store. Toys r Rust
was big as hell.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
It was just like man over there, bikes, all the dolls.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
They had the boys section, the girls section. It's just
such an experience for when you go in, you gotta
always go to the right and we think about the
word on sexual Avenue, but now you always go to
the right and you gotta work your way around. It's
like the way they had it, you had to kind
of like work your way around the store and then
you come back market full circle to the registers and smart. Yeah,

(01:03:52):
like the electronics was on the left side. That was
kind of towards the end.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
When you put electronics, and that was the smartest thing
they could put electrons because at the time, that was
the right. At the time, electronics was still a luxury.
It was still a high priced item that not everybody
could afford. If you walked over there, you know, you
know you're going to spend more money than the average.
And toys are still very prominent. They're just still fucking
with toys.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
And that was smart too. They had the p A,
the PlayStations, and the electronics section, the game boys and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
The electric I don't know what happened with y'all toys
r us should have I don't know, and game Stop
fumble because Games Stop y'all could have been with tors
of us should have been, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of sad because.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
All game Stop got keeping it alive is fucking PlayStation
and Pokemon there's nothing in Nintendo that's not just all
keeping GameStop alive.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
That's another thing to Pokemon pocket demons, things.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Like that pocket monster that's a Pokemon ster for pocket monsters.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
So yeah, everything, but they couldn't couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
And they couldn't have promoted like that in the well,
they could have promoted like that in general. They started
off as pocket monsters and then people was like, you know,
that just doesn't sound a pilling, you know, and it's
like a right, I don't call it shorting it up Pokemon, Yeah,
you know what I mean. And then on the TV show,
you know, they don't promote it as you know, monsters

(01:05:12):
and shit like this is somewhat some level of violence
because these things are attacking each other, they're fighting each other,
you know what I'm saying. I told y'all before the
storylines behind them is world domination and ship like that,
you know what I'm saying. So it's always people people
not seeing it's if they're not paying attention to you're
seeing these little high pitched voices and colors and little
cute little creatures. But meanwhile, like you said, the whole

(01:05:34):
plot is for niggas to fucking take over the world
on some whole other shit, you know. Yeah, and you
gotta pro we got good guys and bad guys, niggas,
robbing niggas, you know what I mean. Yeah, so we
got police officers and ship anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
So yeah, not only toys have like some dark hitting
histories or meetings. There's also, like I said, some toys
actually have some blatant evil shit built within it. So like,
for example, I told this story to you, and some
of y'all might know the story. There was a parent
right back in twenty fourteen. She had picked up a

(01:06:09):
little cheap ass I'm talking about dollar tree or like
niney nine cents store or whatever, like little toy. Right,
it was two dollars and it was called the Evil Stick.
Fucking weird bitch. Why would you, I don't know. But
when you look at the toy, right, Dutch, it looks
nothing like that looks like a flower. It's like it's

(01:06:30):
a wand but it's like a flower looking wand it's colorful.
But the name of it is the Evil Stick, right,
and the mom's name is Nicole Allen. When she peeled
back the foil of the toy, right, she found an
image of a demon child slit in her wrists with

(01:06:53):
like some type of maniacal laughing like look, and this
the packaging shows no manufacturing information. It's how that it's
made in China. And then she said, when you look
close enough, the hidden image is not a drawing but
an actual picture of a girl, like an actual child.

(01:07:15):
So that's just as simple as going to get some
cheap ass five below nine nine sen store dollartry toys.
And there's some evil ass satanic images that are placed
in it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
That's crazy in real time?

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
What is that? That is?

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
My friend posted a picture he's in Cali right now.
I guess a painter painted. He just got finished painting
too today a picture of Satan from South Park and
Donald Trump and like South Park, like you know, art
and everything for those who know you know, you know
the big BROLI read Satan character that has a down
who's saying he was fucking him. He got he got

(01:07:57):
them with Trump now and shit, it's funny. It's that
was talking about these satanic things that's just out here,
you know what I mean, and people glorify it, like
the fact that he gets a whole painting like that
come on, man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Yeah, okay, lastly, before we close, there's a Reddit section
called Possessed Toys.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Right, Oh man, you gotta love Reddit. Shout out to Reddit.
Reddit actually did well in the stock market when the
first IPO. I know, the reallys in her eyes right
now because I say this because people were sleeping on Reddit.
I had a white friend who was on Reddit since
like two thousand and ten, and he used to stay like, Yo,
going Reddit, going, Reddit, going with red red. It's better
than Twitter, It's better than Facebook, is better than Google's

(01:08:33):
better than all that shit going. Ready.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
I like it too because it ain't about no followers.
It's literally just about conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
It's conversation about real shit that's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
And people just kind of you know, people give their
opinions and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
It's a whole Reddit form of my job.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
But okay, sidetracking, Yes, there's a Reddit, right. Somebody created
possessed Toys. So this is the question, right. It was like,
is it just me or do your toddler's toys randomly
start making music, are talking or whatever they do? I
swear it has happened to me with a handful of
toys that a pair possess my toddler will be sleeping

(01:09:08):
or at daycare, but then their toy randomly starts going
off and freaking me. It freaks me out. Do we
have a polter geist or does this happen with anyone else?
That's the question. One hundred and six people responded to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
This ship the second pokemon, my nerd. There's a I
ain't I ain't noticed until just now. Poltrgeist. Yes, okay,
there's a Pokemon named poltr Geist, and it's pretty much
like some spirit that's like lives in a cup.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Well, you never seen the potter Geist movie where it
was about the girl who got got sucked into the TV.
Shit that connects to this ship too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
You ain't never see.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
That's an old movie. So they the appearance. They bought
a house too. The house turned out to be a
burial ground where they still have the damn bodies in
the the what's it called the caskets underneath that comes
out towards the end. But uh yeah, the little girl,
she gets possessed by a TV and then they had
to call ladies. She's like, we gotta do a poultry guy.

(01:10:03):
It's like to get rid of the demons. Because the
child got sucked into the damn television said that's a classic.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
I've never seen it once or twice but I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
But anyways, now see you got all okay, So.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
The breddit form like what's going on the evil toy?

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
So I just want to just read some of the
replies just so y'all could see where we're at the
then we making this ship up because some toys are
like high spirits, like Chucky. Y'all't really think I'm playing
around and shit. So anyways, somebody said some of the
toys nowadays are built to lure your kid back in
if they leave it untouched for a while. That shit

(01:10:38):
sound like some AI shit.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
What you think? Hey, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Anyways, let me see they said. Oh sometimes somebody said
toys with little batteries do this. Somebody said, just a
few nights ago, I was awoken at four ten am
and my son's toy truck going off, which it had
never done before. You have to press a button for
it to go off. Bright red lights and loud truck
noises all of a sudden. I would spook man. It

(01:11:11):
was really hard to fall back asleep after that. Somebody said,
we have a book that makes a police siren noise
when a page is turned right, and the damn thing
will go off randomly when no one is anywhere near
the book. They said, to make matters worse, the battery
is dying, and so it sounds like something straight out

(01:11:32):
of a horror movie. Let me see now, this one.
This definitely to me, this is a possessed toy. This
person said, we have a Fisher priced yellow chair that
sings and talks. They said, would randomly go off at
three am. If it's going off at three am, that's
damn sure, that's the witching hour. I'm telling you right now.

(01:11:53):
No one's definitely connected. What you think maybe could be right. Possibly,
let me see if I find anything that's like. So,
let's see my son's toy record player starts playing Haunted
Nursery rounds without without anyone going near it. H don't know.

(01:12:19):
Let's see. Let me see if I see anything else.
Everyone's just telling their little stories. Some people like it's
just a battery.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Other people brush it off.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Yeah, they said, we had a talking Fisher price chair.
What's up with these? Damn where is this? This is
another person talking about a Fisher price chair. They said
it would come on without being played with for hours.
I don't know. Mm hmm, all right, so this person,

(01:12:56):
I'm gonna read what this person says that I'm gonna
wrap it up. Somebody said, demonic bad spirits that has
to be cast out of your house in the name
of Jesus. There's something about the name of Jesus that
the bad spirits are very afraid of. Say out loud.
I apply the blood of Jesus all over me and
my family, my house and all these toys happened to
me twice already. In one occasion, my kid's toy made

(01:13:17):
noises at three am. See that's why I said, well
that she is around three. Yep. I ain't say another
one that was at four or ten am A part
of it, I'm just saying. But anyways, it freaked me out,
and I was just braik, and I just brave me
went into the live rooms to turn it off and
studied the position of the toy right Dutch, and they said,

(01:13:38):
and what could have triggered the buttons and sounds? So
it just went off. She was trying to figure out
what the fuck why is making this noise? All right?
And then let me continue on. And other occasion, her
musical potty went off in the middle of the night,
and that really spoke me because I'm certain that the
pea container will need a certain weight of pressure for

(01:13:59):
it to start making sounds, and just sitting on that
potty isn't enough to trigger sounds. I thought that was
very weird. And considering that the musical potty has fresh
batteries and it never malfunctions, So that's just you know,
somebody who believes that it has to do with possession
ship even said a jack in the box. Those ships

(01:14:20):
just to scare me as a child. Yeah, oh my god,
that that ain't good. Why would they give us that ship?
Ain't nothing fun about a jack in the box? It
makes you get anxiety. You know why we all have anxiety?

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Box is really some stuffed in the fucking box. I
wouldn't be surprised that's what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
I bet you. Like, now you know why we all
have high anxiety because it ship like that, Because it's like,
what's the damn what's the board games? We didn't really
talk about board games.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
The shites twisting and to pull the shapes in there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Yes, you'd be like yes, oh my god, high anxiety.
That's why I used to love playing that game though,
but I still be scared of God time running now.
But it'll be fun. It'll be fun. That's all I got.
You have anything else you want to talk with. I
just want you guys to be mindful when it comes
to your children. You know, we're big advocates for toys.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
But for people with no kids, we are big advocates
to protect the kids. I want you to know. Yes,
you know, some people tell me, like ann knowing man,
I can hear any of boys that you'll be a
good dad. But yeah, yeah, fuck your niggas. Don't love
your kids. It's why I don't want to have kids,
because I don't. I'm just annoyed with the ship that
I'm seen. It's like, oh, this gonna have a hard

(01:15:41):
time just enjoying shit I was trying to do the
other day. Oh, let's have a kids can just be
childish and go by.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Well that when you have a child, that's when you
really get to relive your childhood again through your child
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Because it just can't be done. When you do it,
you gotta be smart, yeah, because it just as fucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
So you gotta be really mindful of like every little thing,
Like like you know, some people don't care about giving
their children Disney shit. I personally would once we know that. Yeah,
with the Mickey Mouse even down to that. We have
a show about Disneyland. Disneyland a petophil, you get check
it out. That's all I got. Hope you all enjoyed

(01:16:17):
this episode. Hope it makes you think. Go read that book. Okay,
it's called Turmoil in the Toy Box, and stay away
from these damn la boo boo dolls.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Yeah, man, please don't get that shit for your kid.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Or peaced out and Barakatha, Barakatha
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