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waste any time. Come on into Weaverville. Yes, it's okay.
We're got NFL preseason games tonight. Yes, so another round.
We'll see what happens when I say another round. We
only had one last week, and so the question is
are we going to have any type of similar situation,
any type of excitement for this slate of games here
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on a Thursday night, or is it going to be
a little bit of and I don't want to say
let down, but based on at least it was an
entertaining game and it ended really well.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
That was part of it too.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And yeah, again I've talked about it several times just
from a perspective of there's movies out there that start slow,
maybe they drag a little bit, they're you know, in
the middle, or maybe you know it's entertaining at the beginning,
then it drags a little bit there in the middle
and then bam, Yeah, the end of it hits you
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and you're like, oh, wow, Okay, that movie was amazing
because the ending. Yeah, so do you get biased just
based on how it ended versus if you really go back, Yeah,
you know, it really wasn't overall that good. It was
just the ending captivated you. Or a situation very similar
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is the movie could be really good and then the
ending is flat. Yeah you're like, ah, I don't know
if that was really a good movie. So the ending,
I feel makes a major impact on movies and even
sporting events because it's the last thing we remember and
we grasp and hold on to that, and that's why
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I think that preseason game, Yes, it was entertaining because
there was a lot of scoring right there in the
fourth quarter, but even more so, I mean, how much
more exciting can you get walk off touchdown basically to
win the game?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah? I think as human beings, we get so caught up.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You hear so much about like first impressions, first impression,
first impression. Oh yeah, and you know that's the beginning
of your movie that I think we tend to overlook
oftentimes a last impression, lasting impression which you leave somebody with.
And the same think can be said with movies or sports,
and in your case, with that walk off touchdown, that's
a lasting impression. So of course you look at and go, man,
that was a great game. But I think I think
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at this point, you know, I feel like we all
understand what preseason is, right, I don't. I would hope,
let's put it this way, I would hope that that
game there doesn't doesn't tip of your expectations to the
point where it's like, man, all right, preseason, like we
know what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I would hope.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Now that's not to say that none of these games
could be entertaining they can be.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I just I don't want.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
People getting their hopes up thinking that this preseason all
of a sudden, Man, this one's gonna be different, This
is gonna be the one.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, who are you talking to? You're talking to fans.
That's right, right, this is what we do. This is
part of it that you start believing on some of
the things that you see. Yeah, and because you're almost
wanting it to happen, you're trying to speak it into existence.
You're trying to feel a certain way and as somewhat
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and I use this word loosely here because I'm really
not this type of person, and it's probably more apathy
than pessicism, but there is something about the Cowboys where, yeah,
I feel, you know, I'm pessimistic about some of the
things that are going on with the Cowboys, but I
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still have this feeling of Okay, when I look at
some of the reports, when I watch some of the
things out there, and even seeing some of the highlights,
whatever it might be, there is a little.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Bit of that.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, you start, oh, yeah, you buy into it, yes, ye,
you start leaning the other way, maybe from a realistic standpoint,
but I understand what you're talking about with the preseason.
It's pre season. Yeah, you do have to temper your expectations.
But that's the hardest thing for fans to do, is
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temper of the expectations. At least that's what I've seen,
especially Yeah, this time of year.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Oh, that's where I've I've gotten to the point where
at least with like training camp, I don't look at
training camp footage because I feel like either it's it's
sensationalized to the point like fans will post it and
they go you know, they're they're retweet it and go, man,
look at this, we just played it, this content on
this look a look at how good they look, or
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in the sense that we saw last year with like
a Kayleb Williams, Oh god, he missed the net. This
team is going to be terrible. Kaylen Williams is a bust.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
He's awful.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
There is no real middle ground there, and so I
try to keep like, when it comes to training camp,
if there's a reporter I trust, I like to see what.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
They say about it, they're riding on it.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I don't like to try and view too much because
there's also the option, like I don't know what they
were trying to do in that play.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I don't know what the what the purpose of the
drill was. That's right.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
You know, there's so many variables there that I'm not
there at training camp to see any of this stuff.
And so, yeah, maybe that was a great throw. Maybe
it was designed that way to make the quarterback comfortable.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, and I saw a video I think it was
a few days ago.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Was Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, and you could tell he was in the motion
of throwing the ball, but it looked like he wanted to.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Stop from throwing the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
He knew, okay, now, that's not the throw that I
wanted to make, So he was trying to stop it,
but he couldn't and the ball came out and it hits.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
The center in the back of the head.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, everybody like, oh gosh, Patrick Mahomes says he lost it.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
He's broken it. Yes, now, and some of it was
tongue in cheek. I get that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But yeah, to your point is that you don't know
the situation and how that plays out. But there's also
I think there's some validity. And I heard Aaron Rodgers
talking about this, and I wish I had the clip,
but he was talking about in camp and in practice,
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that's part of the area where you can make mistakes. Yes, yeah,
and it's almost like you're wanting to make some of
those mistakes. And his point was that then you could
understand what it felt like in that moment, not even
from a mental side, but even from a physical side.
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That when then the coaching staff might be saying something
to you in terms of, hey, you know how your
footwork was whatever it might be, and you were throwing
more off of your back foot. That's why you didn't
have the velocity to get it there and allowed the
defender to break on the ball because the ball wasn't
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coming out as fast. But now if you could power
through your front foot, yeah, then all of a sudden
you've got a little bit more zip on it and
maybe it gets in there. Because that's the other thing
we know. I mean, it is millimeters, yeah, the margin
of error. And so the only way to understand that
is to feel it is a good point out go
through that experience, and that's how sometimes you can improve
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by having some of those mistakes. And he was talking
about interceptions in general there in practice or specifically, I
should say, and I think there's something to that that if.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
You're going to make a mistake, do it in practice.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, he's n Let's get the kinks ironed out in practice,
and then we can try to replicate the successful things
that we do obviously come game time, because we know
mistakes are.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Going to be made. Oh of course, just the reality
of it. It's it's sports, it's it's life. We do it.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, and of course we don't want to make mistakes,
but it just happens.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Right, And like you can never simulate actual game time,
right or even in practice, no matter how hard you try.
But I would hope that in making those mistakes and
tweaking like that, it gives you the confidence that when
you do make one of those mistakes come game time,
because again it's going to happen. Everybody makes mistakes, it
gives you the confidence to look at it and at
least know why. Like you know, they go back to
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the tablet. I would hope that you're going back to
the little tablet, look at it and going that's right. Yeah,
I felt it as soon as it came off. I
was pushing off my back, not my front, and they
understand why. That's where the growth happens. You practice. There
you make the mistakes in practice and allow yourself to
fail so that when you do fail in game time,
you can at least look at it and go, Okay,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That makes sense. In video doesn't lie. Oh no, it doesn't.
It does not. It doesn't it'll And us as humans, man,
we think we have good memories. Yeah, we think we know.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
How it played out until you see it on video.
So I think one of the biggest steps forward for
being able to get better from a sports perspective is
the advent of utilizing technology with video. Yeah, and how
they marry the video with the analytics and real time information,
real time data. I mean now in college basketball and
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even in the NBA, but it was just recently approved
in college basketball a couple of years ago that you
could use video.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Right there on the bench.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And now you have, you know, video analysts that are
employed by these programs. I mean, that's their number one job.
And of course it's to be able to also help
if you're going to challenge a call, and so you
can see, oh, yep, call coach, yep, we need to
challenge this. And I mean that puts a lot of
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pressure on people because you've got a few seconds, you've
got to make the determination is it worth it or not.
But also, I mean they're showing guys clips of what
just happened in a play during a time out.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I mean that is tremendous use of technology, and I
mean that's real time data, and I think that has
been such a big part of why players are getting
better and.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Better each year.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yes, we're going to talk about er, faster, stronger, oh yeah,
but they're also getting smarter just because of the use
of technology.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And how video.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Again, back in the day, it was like, no, I
didn't do that. Okay, sure, here we go, right, let's
pull it up. And it's almost like, what's the commercial.
My wife and I were talking about it. This is
probably a year ago. The Challenge flag some I think
it was an insurance company, but they would throw the
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challenge flag like were talking or you know, you know
two kids, you know, brothers, sister, you know, like, oh,
challenge flag, and they would go back and review the
video and they're like, oh, oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah that's not how it played out.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Because that's how we are, we think and we feel
that this is the way it happened.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, and there's a lot of times it's not how
we think it happened, oh, without a doubt. And that's
why I like from the technology angle.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
That's why like Jaden Daniels fascinates me so much when
he talks about about training with the VR, and like
I do wonder, obviously injuries played a huge role in
his in his career last year. You know, that's something
that you can't really you can't predict, and you just
kind of have to roll with it and take it
as it comes. But I do wonder when we talk
about the sophomore slump, right you know, he came in
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in his rookie season and lit it up, and this
is a team that.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Went, if I'm not mistaken, all the way to the.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
NFC Championship right there, almost almost to the Super Bowl
right there in his rookie year. And then obviously it
happened with last year with the with the injuries. But
we talked so much about these these players with the
with the sophomore slump, and that just naturally teams and
defenses start to figure you out, Coordinators start to understand
your tendencies and things like that.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I do wonder how.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Much that VR, because he apparently does the VR, but
he does it at like one and a half, like
not not quite double speed, I don't think, but he
speeds it up to a certain degree to where the
game is going faster, and so I wonder, you know,
we talk all the time about or faster, stronger, but
the one thing that is a little more difficult to
train is that mind and that that idea of when
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you first hit that field, especially as a rookie realizing,
oh man, this game goes so much faster than it
did in college. If you could find a way with
VR and speeding up like that to make your brain
understand it faster in an environment where obviously with VR
it feels like you're there right, you know, you're it's
at least to your eyes and kind of tricks your brain.
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I do wonder if you could alleviate some of that
sophomore slump and those adjustments there from a quarterback perspective.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I am fascinated by that, because I also just wonder,
as great as technology is, there's no replacement.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
For as you talked about, right, live action, there's just not.
There's just not.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And even VR, yes, and maybe it can help you
I just wonder to what degree right it can help you,
you know, from that standpoint, And I think the jury
is still out.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I don't we have enough data. See only one that I.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Really understand that, and he might be the only one
that has really publicly said it true. And I would
imagine if there is some success that is gained from it,
there'll be more people that.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Will start using it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Oh yeah, there is something about Hey, of course, we've
talked about it, especially in the NFL. I mean, it
is the ultimate scenario in terms of the copycat league.
And there's no doubt that any any point that you
can find that can help you be successful, whatever that
data might be, whatever you can utilize, teams are going
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to try to use it as much as possible. But
I just still question, can VR can it really help
that much? I don't know, I know, and that's why
I don't know how we'll be able to measure it.
Also just from a perspective as far as there's so
many other factors that go into YEP, being able to
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determine what is ultimately a successful quarterback or not. We
know production that's part of it, of course, And so yeah,
maybe there won't be a sophomore slump or.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Maybe it's uh less of a slump, whatever it might be.
But if he has a different offensive line.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Different of the line, it depends on the player. Yeah,
some players just adapt better than others. Like, yeah, there's
there's a lot of variables.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yes, but there's no doubt that it has a place,
it has a role because that is just an extension
of a film room session in my opinion, right, it
has to be.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I would I would think it's kind of like the
ultimate film room, right, like there's it's different, like you're
you're there.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
In the I mean, could you imagine if you could
take like.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I'm sure it could be done, if they took like
the all twenty two of like a game, and then
place the quarterback there and he could walk around and
look at oh okay, here's the line over here, here's
what they're doing. Yeah, oh okay, I see how he
came in, I see where it broke here, and can
literally stand here like I'm looking at you, but I'm
looking at myself with the ball in my hand dropping back,
and I can look at my mechanics. If I could
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walk up to myself and look at my mechanics, that
would be insane.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh, I mean it's mind blowing what you could view
from that perspective.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
But you also have to be able to put them in.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I mean, do you have like somebody knocking him, you know,
you know the glove boxing gloves, Yeah, exactly, like hitting
him so he's feels the pressure or whatever it might be.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
There's got to be something where you have the physical
side of it correlating with the viewing side of the
VR right right, because if they have in the movie
theater some of those seats that will, yeah, have you
going crazy based on things that's happening.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And the platforms now too that you can stand in
where they strap you have the waist and the floor
just it's like a treadmill basically, but it moves.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
It's omni directional. Oh and so I hold you in
place so you can you could run.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You could you could scramble sideways with the with the
headset on like it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Some of the technology.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Can you imagine the quarterback of the future that's the
training room, Yeah, it'd be wild.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
That would be wild.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, I just have the visions of seeing some of
those videos of the people doing the VR and they're like.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Running into walls and running into TV. You don't want
that last. Your quarterback can cuss exactly?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Can you imagine quarterback gets hurt he's out for the
season because fill off the platform doors a c l
in ther Oh my goodness, Well, we know football is
so back tonight. We do have six NFL preseason matchups tonight.
In Week one, we have the Lions taking on the Bengals,
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the Green Bay Packers taking on your Pittsburgh Steelers. They're
on NFL Networks Rudolph. The Colts taken on the New
England Patriots, Chargers Texans, and we also have the Cardinals and.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
The raid As going at eight o'clock and.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Then the Titans in San Francisco at nine pm. And news,
according to Ian Rappaport there ESPN that Carson Beck has
a rib injury and will not be playing tonight. Okay,
so there we go, and we'll see what happens with
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Fernando Mendoza getting some action tonight. Obviously a lot of
discussion centered around what he might be able to do
and of course when he will actually be the starter
for the raid All right, we got to hit this
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information on that person you talked about, Jaden Daniels and
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Speaker 3 (18:57):
Happy with LSU Hmmm.
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got any thoughts, can VR Can it actually help a quarterback?
Can it help them understand the dynamics going into a
pass rush, any type of shifts in the defense, whatever
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it might be, And to what degree? I'm interested in
that because I do think there's something about again technology
and I love, yeah, being able to utilize technology. I
just wonder to what degree it could actually be of
significant help for some of these quarterbacks. And there's no doubt,
I mean, it's an extension of film session and being
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able to do your homework, understand defensive schemes and how
things are designed from that perspective, and then obviously how
your offense can try to hunt some.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Of those advantages.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And we talk a lot about that in college basketball,
that where you're trying to hunt some of the advantages.
And then of course in the NFL it's much more
structured plays. But where can you have some of those
situations based on whatever the defense is showing and how
they're adjusting when they're blitzing. Whatever it might be, there's
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no doubt it can help. I just don't know what degree.
And it sounds like I'm talking bad about VR. I'm
not talking bad about it.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I just don't know. There's no data.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, there's just not a simple way just to measure that. Oh,
this is going to be tremendous, Right, We've got to
use this forever player out there, not just a quarterback.
But of course the quarterback is directing everything. Yeah, we
do know that. Also, how about this we did forget that.
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Remember at three o'clock today we had the big announcement
that's right for Adam Silver, and the NBA decided to
hold off and wait to announce the NBA schedule release
until three o'clock today, right when we started the show,
right with all of the breaking news. And so here
we go. It's officially done. NBA schedule release presented by Ticketmaster.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
How about that.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Let's go the NBA getting their sponsorships right, they are
good for the definitely all about that?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
All right?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
There are some interesting games though, just from a return
games perspective, with players visiting their former team, like Yanni
Is going back to Milwaukee on January twenty eighth. You've
got LaMelo Ball coming back to Charlotte on February fifteenth.
How about Jalen Brown going back to Boston on January
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the twenty first. And you also have Lebron James returning
back to Los Angeles on Christmas Day, so we could
see Lebron James versus Bronni.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, as long as Broni makes the team. Well, yeah,
that is part of it. So there you go. How
about that.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Surprised he wasn't included in the trade there or the shuffle.
There's a lot of people that did talk about that that.
How in the world was he not part of it?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And the other thing with the NBA though, as far
as doing the schedule release, I mean it's been just
basically social media.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Like if you're going to do a schedule release, I
mean on TV.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, maybe it's on NBA TV, but that is something
that not a whole lot of viewers can get.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
But I mean, don't you if you're going to do this, I.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Mean, the NFL dominates even with the schedule release. It's
like they have a build up, there's a countdown on
Sports Center and everything, like it's a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah, it definitely is.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
And you know, I just think that if you're going
to try to model it, model it in a way
that okay, boom, we're going to try to do as
much as we can to push this out there. And
of course, I mean ESPN, you know, has their coverage
and yeah, they do a lot. Now we've got ESPN
two here on in the studio, so I am just curious,
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can you turn it to channel thirty two, thirty two
thirty two, yeah, because that'll be ESPN here in studio.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
You don't know why I don't have it on Channel
thirty two because it's Little League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Oh yeah, so that's dominating over NBA right now, Little
League Baseball. That's what I have it on two the
schedule release. Yep. Maybe, I mean maybe they have it
as a crawl. No, they do not, Nope.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Nothing, all right, But on ESPN two is supposed to
be the NBA today, right, it is NBA today.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Yeah, yeah, but they're I mean, I don't they're talking
about Russell Welsbrook right now. Oh well, maybe they hit
it at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
That's that's right, all right, we'll get Adam Silver on
the line.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
But I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Again, if you're going to go all in, go all in, right,
or if you're going to act like you're going all in,
go all in. I mean, this is not something that
is hard to decipher. I mean it's it's pretty easy,
simple equation. Yeah, all right, that's just what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I do have a crazy stat though that uh, as
we've talked about just in terms of preseason. I want
to talk about real quick because I still think this
blows me away and there's no correlation. I expect it
means absolutely nothing, but it's still just crazy. Okay, when
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you're talking about NFL preseason and the Baltimore Ravens. Okay,
from twenty and sixteen to twenty and twenty three, they
won twenty four straight preseason games.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yep. Does it mean anything?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Does?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I mean? Obviously not, But I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
There's streaks that we talk about a lot of times. Yeah,
and it's based on regular season. But also there's streaks
in regular season where teams don't win a championship. So
does that diminish it the streak because they didn't win
a championship?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Or is this streak diminish just solely on its preseason?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
That's a I would say. I mean, I do look
at it like to a degree, And again I'm not.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Affiliated with the NFL, Like I don't know what any
of these coaches or players think, but like from a
fan perspective, I look at it.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
And like it feels kind of meaningless.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Now, obviously, from a player perspective, you're trying to make
a roster or if you're trying to you know, if
you're trying to keep your job, if you're one of
these guys that are like, you know, borderline practice squad, Obviously,
the preseason is super important because that determines potentially whether
or not, you know, if you could show out I
have a little bit of a highlight reel in there
in preseason, then maybe the coaching staff looks actually go, okay, yeah,
he's worth keeping around.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
But I mean, if I'm not mistaken, didn't the Lions.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Have some kind of weird like when they were really
bad and like it was almost impossible they would win a.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I was gonna say in the preseason they were. They
were actually decent.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Like I I don't want to say, I'm pretty certain
the year they went winless in the regular season, they
were undefeated in the preseason. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.
I'm almost positive on that. So, I mean sixteen, but
they were four and in the so what does it
matter matter?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Well?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
But I look at this though, and that's what that's
my first question is that, Well, of course it doesn't matter, right,
it's NFL preseason. Yeah, it doesn't matter at all. But
then when I dive into it a little bit more,
just based on you only have four preseason games per year, Yeah, yeah,
so there's the longevity of it and statistically speaking, how
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could that play out? Based on also just looking at
it from a roster turnover perspective, Yeah, and it's not.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Even from year to year.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I'm talking about from preseason game one to two to
three to four. Yeah, the players that they have out
there are almost completely different. Yeah, I mean there's still
a core group of players that are out there. But
that's why I look at it, and I know you're
probably thinking I'm crazy, but I think this is one
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of the most bizarre and amazing and ridiculous stats that
we have out there. Yeah, and then you say, and
it's meaningless because it is.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Right, That's what it is. More bizarre, Yeah, doesn't it. Yeah,
I mean it's almost.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Like a Seinfeld episode or Curby your Enthusiasm, right, I mean,
it means nothing, but it means something because it was
absolutely insane that they were able to win twenty four
straight preseason games.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Again, at some point you think that it would level
out and like to go that long with with preseason.
A point that I feel like, that's what I was
trying to get at is I feel like most of
the NFL looks at it and it's like, a, it
doesn't really matter if we win or we lose, And like,
I don't know that Baltimore necessarily cared like I'm sure
it was talked about like, hey, man, that's number twenty
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four after they get it's probably after the fact, like
they win the game and they go, oh, yeah, that's
twenty four straight right there.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
But they're not. I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I'd highly doubt they're thinking going into the preseason game, man,
we gotta get twenty five, we gotta get twenty six,
you know.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But it is a bizarre stat that s it is
pretty impress Yeah, there's no doubt that they're not thinking about, oh,
we got to keep this streak alive. Right now. They
might be tongue in cheek saying that, all.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Right, come on, guys, let's keep the winning ways.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Ultimately, we know it's all about.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
The regular season, and then more importantly it's about the postseason.
But you can't get into the postseason unless you have
success in the regular season, so you've got to carry
it from that perspective. But I just think it's one
of the craziest things that we've seen, and probably nobody
even talks about it enough. Again, just from the statistical probability,
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and that's where I nerd out that how in the
world did this happen? And then just knowing that it's
completely irrelevant because nobody cares. But I also look at
streaks during the regular season. If you don't winning a championship,
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did those streaks matter either? I mean they do, yeah,
they do, but they lose their lusters, so to speak.
But I think this one is just it's irrelevant, just
solely based on its pre season and that makes sense
to me there, right.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I do wonder.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
From a stat perspective, because there's I mean there's I
feel like there's stats for everything. How many of those
go floating under the radar that are just totally like
those type of bizarre stats that are crazy like that,
but they're totally meaningless and nobody talks about them, so
they just they just like, there are probably stats out
there that we have no idea about, streaks like that
that happened that we just don't track, but would probably
(30:44):
blow your mind. But it doesn't matter because we just
it doesn't matter. Oh, there's there has to be a
ton and it wouldn't surprise me if there's some social
media account out there that is already.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Doing it and we just don't know that.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, yeah, I just don't follow it or has it
have it come across it? So I probably need to
nerd out and try to find some of those, because
it does blow me away just some of the things
that we've seen, not only in sports, but in life.
Just from a statistical standpoint, right, I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Well that's like.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I feel like the last couple of years I've seen it.
I haven't seen one this year, but the uh, I
can't even remember the like the weird circle of events,
like like, oh, back when this super Bowl happened.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
And it took place in New Orleans, the what was it?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Like the Panthers played Jacksonville in the opener and lost,
but then played this team at this time, like and
all these weird circle of events that all just happened
to coincide the first time this super Bowl came around,
and it culminated in a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Appearance for the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
And then they correlated that all of a sudden, those
exact sort of cherry picked events are happening again.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
And then the question mark is, well do the Panthers
go to the super Bowl? That was one I think
that last year.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
But yes, I haven't seen one of those this year,
but I have at least, I mean, we've been doing
this aince twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I think I've seen it at least twice.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, And I think there's also with statistics, you do
have to be careful because what you're talking about cherry picking.
I mean, you can make stats tell the story oh yeah,
that you want to tell, Yeah, within reason, but you
can manipulate some of the context to fit the narrative, right,
(32:34):
that you want to talk about and that you want
to highlight. So that's the thing that you do have
to be at least aware of when you're talking about stats,
because you can utilize the same type of stats and
you can have two different views as far as how
those stats affect a certain type of situation. And that's
what is even crazy to me as well, is that, Okay,
(32:58):
now you really have to start thinking about, Okay, how
am I going to formulate this opinion based on these stats,
because I can maybe have two or three different directions
how I want to go these stats.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
So okay, so let just file that one away. It's
going to file it away that that's a bizarre.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
One, yeah, because I have been wanting to talk about
that for a while, so it only makes perfect sense.
We can talk about it preseason, right, Yeah, We've got
six games tonight. Yeah, I do have to remember that. Okay,
So the James Daniels oh that I didn't want to
talk about, and I'm going to talk about some college
football coming up in hour two because there are some
games I want to highlight that I think I'm excited about. Yeah,
(33:39):
and I'm curious as far as some of the listeners
out there if they're excited about it also. But according
to Adam Schefter who reported it earlier, is that an
attorney representing Commander's quarterback Jane Daniels informed LSU and basically said, hey,
this whole nil thing, you're done with using my name,
(34:03):
image and likeness. And this was according to a letter
that back in August fifth I think is what it says,
based on ESPN's Mark Schlaybaugh and again posted out there
by Adam Schefter, But basically it relates to situation where
(34:27):
the number five was given to another player at LSU
this year, and DJ Pickett is the player, and so
according to the reports, that Jayden Daniels is upset that
they would disrespect him that bad by giving his number
(34:49):
to another player, and so now he has filed a
letter of cease and desist using anything associated with Jayde
Daniels at LS you, including the Heisman trophy, because there's
two Heisman trophies. School gets one, yeah, and the player
gets one, okay, and Jayden Daniels is saying, hey, and
(35:12):
I don't even want you showing.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
The Heisman trophy anymore. That's where this has gotten to.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Based on again the number five and now LSU never
retired number five, and it's got its own policy according
to various lawyers out there that have looked into it
about reissuing, they can do it at the coaches discretion.
So I mean, is this cease and assist just pure theater?
(35:42):
And like, why would Jaden Daniels even do this? I
just have no idea why he would be focused on
this as of right now.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Look, there's the.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
One side of it I look at like he I mean,
it's if it's his name and now the number is
crazy you don't own a number. But like, I feel
like at any point in time, a player reserves the
right with their name, image and likeness, like it's theirs,
you know, if as long as it's within whatever the
contract states, Like I feel like they should they should
have the right to revoke that because it is it
(36:19):
is them, Like I understand that this to me is
super petty, Like I can't even begin Like maybe there's
a part that makes it, Like maybe if it were
something else that made sense, I could look at Jadan
Daniels go, Okay, I see where you're coming from, Like
I understand you're right, Like I get that it's your name,
it's your image, at your.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Likeness, but this is just such a petty reason.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I mean, it just doesn't make sense beyond petty, yes,
beyond So according to Adam Schefter, he did just recently
put something on x and it's a post on Instagram
from Jaden Daniels okay, and it says I have been
(37:03):
locked in. I have been locked in on training camp
and that's been my number one focus. I have a
lot of gratitude for my time at LSU, and I'm
proud of what my teammates and I accomplish there. Obviously,
there are issues to be worked out between my team
and LSU, and my hope is that it will get done. Privately,
my sole personal focus is on Commander's football. I realize
(37:26):
the business of football is unique, and I trust this
can all be resolved, Cya. I mean, hello, I just
(37:46):
based on he's mad about DJ Pickett getting the number five.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
That's my point is that, I mean, you have situations
where even like at Clemson, the number four was retired. Yeah,
Steve Fuller, it was retired, and he allowed them to
bring it out of retirement as a special situation for
Deshaun Watson, and he and Deshaun Watson would wear a
(38:17):
patch again making sure to honor that.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Hey, basically they're lending.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I'm being lent the number four because it has been retired.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
That's different. Number five has not been retired.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Right at LSU, So Lane Kiffen, he could promise it
to anybody if he wanted to. Yeah, and now again,
I say all of this because you know, there's got
to be more information.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
There's got to be more to this story.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Than just how it seems coming across some of the
headlines from ESPN, Fox Sports, on social media, whatever it
might be. There's enough smoke that Jayden Daniels has to
put something out. And I'm he's not putting out the fire.
He's almost fan in the flames, Yes, exactly, I mean right,
(39:11):
I mean, Jayden, I think you just don't even say anything.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yeah, I would just avoid it, or you know, maybe
the lawyer drafts. I don't know, Like it's just, first
of all, it just shouldn't have been in the first place.
Like depending on again, to your point, there's probably more
to it, but if it is at its surface this,
it just shouldn't have been a thing to begin with.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, it definitely shouldn't have been.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
And I know Darren Heidner who's a lawyer, and he's
been big in the NIL space and has filed a
lot of lawsuits based on the five for five eligibility
rules all of that, and he has even posted saying
that Jayden Daniels and his lawyer have no legal claim
(39:58):
to exclusive control over the jersey number the quarterback war
for two seasons at LSU, and says this is a
ridiculous claim. The season desist really shows how asserted it is,
and the demands that LSU stop using Daniel's name, image,
and likeness, citing a contractual window that expired one hundred
and eighty days after his final college game, which closed
(40:21):
long ago, appears to be an emotional reaction, not.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
A cause of action.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
So I.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Think that.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
This is almost just a situation of James Daniels being hurt.
But I don't know if it's just because of the
number five being worn by somebody else. The it's got
to just be something more into this, And because this
happens consistently, schools will make commitments that somebody can wear
(40:59):
that number, especially if it's not retired. So I think
this is just a I don't know what it is
necessarily because if we don't have all of the information,
but what I would say, it doesn't seem to be
a good look. Yeah, Jayden and Daniels ultimately because now
it's a distraction of course going into his third year,
like yeah, that's not what you want. Yeah, now they're
(41:20):
already making jokes that teammates for the commanders they can't
give him a high five, they have to give him
a high four, you know. I mean, I mean it's
just it's more questions are going to be asked.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
And then you know that and of course if he
underperforms this year, I mean, it's it's only going to.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Come back exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
That's what I'm saying, Jaden, let it go, Let it go.
It's okay, it is okay, all right, What you can't
let go is the opportunity to join the conversation. We
got to hit this brake, but the phone lines are
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you get out to your local Ingles here right before
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you can be very optimistic about Ingles. I can promise
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but you never know, helps.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Every little bit.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Helps, and I mean cost of food also, these days,
it is expensive. I do know that, and that's why
I mean again, Ingles does everything that they can to
keep prices down, but we do know that just each and.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Every year, I mean, things get more expensive. It's just
the reality of it.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
But you can also be assured that you have the
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you like that they're at Ingles. And also the best
meat in town. And if you don't feel like doing
a whole bunch of cooking, they'll do it for you.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
It's good, it's easy.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
You just walk in, they've already prepped, they've already prepared.
You can even get party platters all of that. So
that's why we love Ingles. Oh yeah, not even just
from a perspective of how involved they are in the
community and of course, you know, helping the show and
the station here. Yeah, but just trying to make life
easier for you.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Oh yeah, you know, and like.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
You could go anywhere, right, that's it's But like, to me,
the biggest thing about angles, I know where everything is
because they're all sat up the same and that like,
to me, it's like it's it's almost like shopping in
my own pantry, right, Like.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
I know where it is. I I walk in, like
I need this, I walk here, I walk there.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
I feel like that's so often to overlook because there
are other places that you go in and every store
is totally different, and I don't know where things are,
that's right. But I know when I walk into at Ingles,
if I need milk, I know where it's at.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I know I know where it's at. I love it,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
And when I say, Mays, is that a lot of
grocery stores they do feel like that. They do, and
sometimes it's hard to decipher. I've even come across at
times we're like why would you have this product.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
On this aisle? Why wouldn't you have it? Yes, where
it seems to fit in the other places.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yes, and and being truthful, I've I've run into that
with angles a couple of times, but for the most
part it has been pretty consistent.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yeh.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
But yes, to your point, the stores are the same
now some of the news stores now that's different.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
As we talked about, they're getting up.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yes, and and I love that they're evolving, you know,
from that side of things. But there is something nice
about when you go into the grocery store and you
don't have to think about where you need to go. Yeah,
it's almost like you're an autopilot. Yeah, you go up
and down the aisles and that's it.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
And then everyone's while they'll throw one little thing like
especially you go ooh, and that makes it into my
cart because I look at it and I'm like, oh that
it's usually to end caps.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
I look at it and go, Okay, that looks good.
How often does that happen? I'd love mode the percentage.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
You mean me or just in general, because in general,
so you skew the numbers, is what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
That's why I shop online on the curb side pickup,
so that I don't add extra.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Stuff to my cart. I shop hungry. You have talked
about that a lot. I'm bad.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
My wife's bad about it. To Morgan, we're both going
there and we have to we have to remind each other.
I know we're hungry right now.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
This is the list, and you don't always stay on
that list. Now you don't know, but that's the beauty
of it. Be a new thing. I'll be like, oh,
that looks good right yet.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, you are spot on though, And I know a
lot of people have talked about this too.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Going to the grocery store hungry. You can run into some.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
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once again, we have a lot to get to. I
imagine these two hours will go pretty fast, so don't
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waste any time. Come on into Weaverville. Yes, it's okay.
We're got NFL preseason games tonight. Yes, so another round.
We'll see what happens when I say another round. We
only had one last week, and so the question is
are we going to have any type of similar situation,
any type of excitement for this slate of games here
(01:18):
on a Thursday night, or is it going to be
a little bit of and I don't want to say
let down, but based on at least it was an
entertaining game and it ended really well.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
That was part of it too.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And yeah, again I've talked about it several times just
from a perspective of there's movies out there that start slow,
maybe they drag a little bit, they're you know, in
the middle, or maybe you know it's entertaining at the beginning,
then it drags a little bit there in the middle
and then bam, Yeah, the end of it hits you
(01:53):
and you're like, oh, wow, Okay, that movie was amazing
because the ending. Yeah, so do you get biased just
based on how it ended versus if you really go back, Yeah,
you know, it really wasn't overall that good. It was
just the ending captivated you. Or a situation very similar
(02:15):
is the movie could be really good and then the
ending is flat. Yeah you're like, ah, I don't know
if that was really a good movie. So the ending,
I feel makes a major impact on movies and even
sporting events because it's the last thing we remember and
we grasp and hold on to that, and that's why
(02:37):
I think that preseason game, Yes, it was entertaining because
there was a lot of scoring right there in the
fourth quarter, but even more so, I mean, how much
more exciting can you get walk off touchdown basically to
win the game?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah? I think as human beings, we get so caught up.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You hear so much about like first impressions, first impression,
first impression. Oh yeah, and you know that's the beginning
of your movie that I think we tend to overlook
oftentimes a last impression, lasting impression which you leave somebody with.
And the same think can be said with movies or sports,
and in your case, with that walk off touchdown, that's
a lasting impression. So of course you look at and go, man,
that was a great game. But I think I think
(03:11):
at this point, you know, I feel like we all
understand what preseason is, right, I don't. I would hope,
let's put it this way, I would hope that that
game there doesn't doesn't tip of your expectations to the
point where it's like, man, all right, preseason, like we
know what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I would hope.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Now that's not to say that none of these games
could be entertaining they can be.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I just I don't want.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
People getting their hopes up thinking that this preseason all
of a sudden, Man, this one's gonna be different, This
is gonna be the one.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, who are you talking to? You're talking to fans.
That's right, right, this is what we do. This is
part of it that you start believing on some of
the things that you see. Yeah, and because you're almost
wanting it to happen, you're trying to speak it into existence.
You're trying to feel a certain way and as somewhat
(04:01):
and I use this word loosely here because I'm really
not this type of person, and it's probably more apathy
than pessicism, but there is something about the Cowboys where, yeah,
I feel, you know, I'm pessimistic about some of the
things that are going on with the Cowboys, but I
(04:22):
still have this feeling of Okay, when I look at
some of the reports, when I watch some of the
things out there, and even seeing some of the highlights,
whatever it might be, there is a little.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Bit of that.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, you start, oh, yeah, you buy into it, yes, ye,
you start leaning the other way, maybe from a realistic standpoint,
but I understand what you're talking about with the preseason.
It's pre season. Yeah, you do have to temper your expectations.
But that's the hardest thing for fans to do, is
(05:00):
temper of the expectations. At least that's what I've seen,
especially Yeah, this time of year.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Oh, that's where I've I've gotten to the point where
at least with like training camp, I don't look at
training camp footage because I feel like either it's it's
sensationalized to the point like fans will post it and
they go you know, they're they're retweet it and go, man,
look at this, we just played it, this content on
this look a look at how good they look, or
(05:27):
in the sense that we saw last year with like
a Kayleb Williams, Oh god, he missed the net. This
team is going to be terrible. Kaylen Williams is a bust.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
He's awful.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
There is no real middle ground there, and so I
try to keep like, when it comes to training camp,
if there's a reporter I trust, I like to see what.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
They say about it, they're riding on it.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I don't like to try and view too much because
there's also the option, like I don't know what they
were trying to do in that play.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I don't know what the what the purpose of the
drill was. That's right.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
You know, there's so many variables there that I'm not
there at training camp to see any of this stuff.
And so, yeah, maybe that was a great throw. Maybe
it was designed that way to make the quarterback comfortable.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, and I saw a video I think it was
a few days ago.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Was Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, and you could tell he was in the motion
of throwing the ball, but it looked like he wanted to.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Stop from throwing the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
He knew, okay, now, that's not the throw that I
wanted to make, So he was trying to stop it,
but he couldn't and the ball came out and it hits.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
The center in the back of the head.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, everybody like, oh gosh, Patrick Mahomes says he lost it.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
He's broken it. Yes, now, and some of it was
tongue in cheek. I get that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But yeah, to your point is that you don't know
the situation and how that plays out. But there's also
I think there's some validity. And I heard Aaron Rodgers
talking about this, and I wish I had the clip,
but he was talking about in camp and in practice,
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that's part of the area where you can make mistakes. Yes, yeah,
and it's almost like you're wanting to make some of
those mistakes. And his point was that then you could
understand what it felt like in that moment, not even
from a mental side, but even from a physical side.
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That when then the coaching staff might be saying something
to you in terms of, hey, you know how your
footwork was whatever it might be, and you were throwing
more off of your back foot. That's why you didn't
have the velocity to get it there and allowed the
defender to break on the ball because the ball wasn't
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coming out as fast. But now if you could power
through your front foot, yeah, then all of a sudden
you've got a little bit more zip on it and
maybe it gets in there. Because that's the other thing
we know. I mean, it is millimeters, yeah, the margin
of error. And so the only way to understand that
is to feel it is a good point out go
through that experience, and that's how sometimes you can improve
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by having some of those mistakes. And he was talking
about interceptions in general there in practice or specifically, I
should say, and I think there's something to that that if.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
You're going to make a mistake, do it in practice.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, he's n Let's get the kinks ironed out in practice,
and then we can try to replicate the successful things
that we do obviously come game time, because we know
mistakes are.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Going to be made. Oh of course, just the reality
of it. It's it's sports, it's it's life. We do it.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, and of course we don't want to make mistakes,
but it just happens.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Right, And like you can never simulate actual game time,
right or even in practice, no matter how hard you try.
But I would hope that in making those mistakes and
tweaking like that, it gives you the confidence that when
you do make one of those mistakes come game time,
because again it's going to happen. Everybody makes mistakes, it
gives you the confidence to look at it and at
least know why. Like you know, they go back to
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the tablet. I would hope that you're going back to
the little tablet, look at it and going that's right. Yeah,
I felt it as soon as it came off. I
was pushing off my back, not my front, and they
understand why. That's where the growth happens. You practice. There
you make the mistakes in practice and allow yourself to
fail so that when you do fail in game time,
you can at least look at it and go, Okay,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That makes sense. In video doesn't lie. Oh no, it doesn't.
It does not. It doesn't it'll And us as humans, man,
we think we have good memories. Yeah, we think we know.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
How it played out until you see it on video.
So I think one of the biggest steps forward for
being able to get better from a sports perspective is
the advent of utilizing technology with video. Yeah, and how
they marry the video with the analytics and real time information,
real time data. I mean now in college basketball and
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even in the NBA, but it was just recently approved
in college basketball a couple of years ago that you
could use video.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Right there on the bench.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And now you have, you know, video analysts that are
employed by these programs. I mean, that's their number one job.
And of course it's to be able to also help
if you're going to challenge a call, and so you
can see, oh, yep, call coach, yep, we need to
challenge this. And I mean that puts a lot of
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pressure on people because you've got a few seconds, you've
got to make the determination is it worth it or not.
But also, I mean they're showing guys clips of what
just happened in a play during a time out.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I mean that is tremendous use of technology, and I
mean that's real time data, and I think that has
been such a big part of why players are getting
better and.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Better each year.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yes, we're going to talk about er, faster, stronger, oh yeah,
but they're also getting smarter just because of the use
of technology.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And how video.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Again, back in the day, it was like, no, I
didn't do that. Okay, sure, here we go, right, let's
pull it up. And it's almost like, what's the commercial.
My wife and I were talking about it. This is
probably a year ago. The Challenge flag some I think
it was an insurance company, but they would throw the
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challenge flag like were talking or you know, you know
two kids, you know, brothers, sister, you know, like, oh,
challenge flag, and they would go back and review the
video and they're like, oh, oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah that's not how it played out.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Because that's how we are, we think and we feel
that this is the way it happened.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, and there's a lot of times it's not how
we think it happened, oh, without a doubt. And that's
why I like from the technology angle.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
That's why like Jaden Daniels fascinates me so much when
he talks about about training with the VR, and like
I do wonder, obviously injuries played a huge role in
his in his career last year. You know, that's something
that you can't really you can't predict, and you just
kind of have to roll with it and take it
as it comes. But I do wonder when we talk
about the sophomore slump, right you know, he came in
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in his rookie season and lit it up, and this
is a team that.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Went, if I'm not mistaken, all the way to the.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
NFC Championship right there, almost almost to the Super Bowl
right there in his rookie year. And then obviously it
happened with last year with the with the injuries. But
we talked so much about these these players with the
with the sophomore slump, and that just naturally teams and
defenses start to figure you out, Coordinators start to understand
your tendencies and things like that.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I do wonder how.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Much that VR, because he apparently does the VR, but
he does it at like one and a half, like
not not quite double speed, I don't think, but he
speeds it up to a certain degree to where the
game is going faster, and so I wonder, you know,
we talk all the time about or faster, stronger, but
the one thing that is a little more difficult to
train is that mind and that that idea of when
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you first hit that field, especially as a rookie realizing,
oh man, this game goes so much faster than it
did in college. If you could find a way with
VR and speeding up like that to make your brain
understand it faster in an environment where obviously with VR
it feels like you're there right, you know, you're it's
at least to your eyes and kind of tricks your brain.
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I do wonder if you could alleviate some of that
sophomore slump and those adjustments there from a quarterback perspective.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I am fascinated by that, because I also just wonder,
as great as technology is, there's no replacement.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
For as you talked about, right, live action, there's just not.
There's just not.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And even VR, yes, and maybe it can help you
I just wonder to what degree right it can help you,
you know, from that standpoint, And I think the jury
is still out.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I don't we have enough data. See only one that I.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Really understand that, and he might be the only one
that has really publicly said it true. And I would
imagine if there is some success that is gained from it,
there'll be more people that.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Will start using it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Oh yeah, there is something about Hey, of course, we've
talked about it, especially in the NFL. I mean, it
is the ultimate scenario in terms of the copycat league.
And there's no doubt that any any point that you
can find that can help you be successful, whatever that
data might be, whatever you can utilize, teams are going
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to try to use it as much as possible. But
I just still question, can VR can it really help
that much? I don't know, I know, and that's why
I don't know how we'll be able to measure it.
Also just from a perspective as far as there's so
many other factors that go into YEP, being able to
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determine what is ultimately a successful quarterback or not. We
know production that's part of it, of course, And so yeah,
maybe there won't be a sophomore slump or.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Maybe it's uh less of a slump, whatever it might be.
But if he has a different offensive line.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Different of the line, it depends on the player. Yeah,
some players just adapt better than others. Like, yeah, there's
there's a lot of variables.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yes, but there's no doubt that it has a place,
it has a role because that is just an extension
of a film room session in my opinion, right, it
has to be.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I would I would think it's kind of like the
ultimate film room, right, like there's it's different, like you're
you're there.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
In the I mean, could you imagine if you could
take like.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I'm sure it could be done, if they took like
the all twenty two of like a game, and then
place the quarterback there and he could walk around and
look at oh okay, here's the line over here, here's
what they're doing. Yeah, oh okay, I see how he
came in, I see where it broke here, and can
literally stand here like I'm looking at you, but I'm
looking at myself with the ball in my hand dropping back,
and I can look at my mechanics. If I could
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walk up to myself and look at my mechanics, that
would be insane.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh, I mean it's mind blowing what you could view
from that perspective.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
But you also have to be able to put them in.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I mean, do you have like somebody knocking him, you know,
you know the glove boxing gloves, Yeah, exactly, like hitting
him so he's feels the pressure or whatever it might be.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
There's got to be something where you have the physical
side of it correlating with the viewing side of the
VR right right, because if they have in the movie
theater some of those seats that will, yeah, have you
going crazy based on things that's happening.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And the platforms now too that you can stand in
where they strap you have the waist and the floor
just it's like a treadmill basically, but it moves.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
It's omni directional. Oh and so I hold you in
place so you can you could run.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You could you could scramble sideways with the with the
headset on like it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Some of the technology.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Can you imagine the quarterback of the future that's the
training room, Yeah, it'd be wild.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
That would be wild.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, I just have the visions of seeing some of
those videos of the people doing the VR and they're like.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Running into walls and running into TV. You don't want
that last. Your quarterback can cuss exactly?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Can you imagine quarterback gets hurt he's out for the
season because fill off the platform doors a c l
in ther Oh my goodness, Well, we know football is
so back tonight. We do have six NFL preseason matchups tonight.
In Week one, we have the Lions taking on the Bengals,
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the Green Bay Packers taking on your Pittsburgh Steelers. They're
on NFL Networks Rudolph. The Colts taken on the New
England Patriots, Chargers Texans, and we also have the Cardinals and.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
The raid As going at eight o'clock and.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Then the Titans in San Francisco at nine pm. And news,
according to Ian Rappaport there ESPN that Carson Beck has
a rib injury and will not be playing tonight. Okay,
so there we go, and we'll see what happens with
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Fernando Mendoza getting some action tonight. Obviously a lot of
discussion centered around what he might be able to do
and of course when he will actually be the starter
for the raid All right, we got to hit this
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information on that person you talked about, Jaden Daniels and
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Speaker 3 (18:57):
Happy with LSU Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
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join the conversation the text line eight six four triple
seven ninety five ninety three. Again that text line eight
six four triple seven ninety five ninety three. If you've
got any thoughts, can VR Can it actually help a quarterback?
Can it help them understand the dynamics going into a
pass rush, any type of shifts in the defense, whatever
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it might be, And to what degree? I'm interested in
that because I do think there's something about again technology
and I love, yeah, being able to utilize technology. I
just wonder to what degree it could actually be of
significant help for some of these quarterbacks. And there's no doubt,
I mean, it's an extension of film session and being
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able to do your homework, understand defensive schemes and how
things are designed from that perspective, and then obviously how
your offense can try to hunt some.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Of those advantages.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And we talk a lot about that in college basketball,
that where you're trying to hunt some of the advantages.
And then of course in the NFL it's much more
structured plays. But where can you have some of those
situations based on whatever the defense is showing and how
they're adjusting when they're blitzing. Whatever it might be, there's
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no doubt it can help. I just don't know what degree.
And it sounds like I'm talking bad about VR. I'm
not talking bad about it.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I just don't know. There's no data.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, there's just not a simple way just to measure that. Oh,
this is going to be tremendous, Right, We've got to
use this forever player out there, not just a quarterback.
But of course the quarterback is directing everything. Yeah, we
do know that. Also, how about this we did forget that.
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Remember at three o'clock today we had the big announcement
that's right for Adam Silver, and the NBA decided to
hold off and wait to announce the NBA schedule release
until three o'clock today, right when we started the show,
right with all of the breaking news. And so here
we go. It's officially done. NBA schedule release presented by Ticketmaster.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
How about that.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Let's go the NBA getting their sponsorships right, they are
good for the definitely all about that?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
All right?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
There are some interesting games though, just from a return
games perspective, with players visiting their former team, like Yanni
Is going back to Milwaukee on January twenty eighth. You've
got LaMelo Ball coming back to Charlotte on February fifteenth.
How about Jalen Brown going back to Boston on January
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the twenty first. And you also have Lebron James returning
back to Los Angeles on Christmas Day, so we could
see Lebron James versus Bronni.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, as long as Broni makes the team. Well, yeah,
that is part of it. So there you go. How
about that.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Surprised he wasn't included in the trade there or the shuffle.
There's a lot of people that did talk about that that.
How in the world was he not part of it?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And the other thing with the NBA though, as far
as doing the schedule release, I mean it's been just
basically social media.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Like if you're going to do a schedule release, I
mean on TV.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, maybe it's on NBA TV, but that is something
that not a whole lot of viewers can get.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
But I mean, don't you if you're going to do this, I.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Mean, the NFL dominates even with the schedule release. It's
like they have a build up, there's a countdown on
Sports Center and everything, like it's a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah, it definitely is.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
And you know, I just think that if you're going
to try to model it, model it in a way
that okay, boom, we're going to try to do as
much as we can to push this out there. And
of course, I mean ESPN, you know, has their coverage
and yeah, they do a lot. Now we've got ESPN
two here on in the studio, so I am just curious,
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can you turn it to channel thirty two, thirty two
thirty two, yeah, because that'll be ESPN here in studio.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
You don't know why I don't have it on Channel
thirty two because it's Little League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Oh yeah, so that's dominating over NBA right now, Little
League Baseball. That's what I have it on two the
schedule release. Yep. Maybe, I mean maybe they have it
as a crawl. No, they do not, Nope.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Nothing, all right, But on ESPN two is supposed to
be the NBA today, right, it is NBA today.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Yeah, yeah, but they're I mean, I don't they're talking
about Russell Welsbrook right now. Oh well, maybe they hit
it at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
That's that's right, all right, we'll get Adam Silver on
the line.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
But I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Again, if you're going to go all in, go all in, right,
or if you're going to act like you're going all in,
go all in. I mean, this is not something that
is hard to decipher. I mean it's it's pretty easy,
simple equation. Yeah, all right, that's just what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I do have a crazy stat though that uh, as
we've talked about just in terms of preseason. I want
to talk about real quick because I still think this
blows me away and there's no correlation. I expect it
means absolutely nothing, but it's still just crazy. Okay, when
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you're talking about NFL preseason and the Baltimore Ravens. Okay,
from twenty and sixteen to twenty and twenty three, they
won twenty four straight preseason games.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yep. Does it mean anything?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Does?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I mean? Obviously not, But I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
There's streaks that we talk about a lot of times. Yeah,
and it's based on regular season. But also there's streaks
in regular season where teams don't win a championship. So
does that diminish it the streak because they didn't win
a championship?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Or is this streak diminish just solely on its preseason?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
That's a I would say. I mean, I do look
at it like to a degree, And again I'm not.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Affiliated with the NFL, Like I don't know what any
of these coaches or players think, but like from a
fan perspective, I look at it.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
And like it feels kind of meaningless.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Now, obviously, from a player perspective, you're trying to make
a roster or if you're trying to you know, if
you're trying to keep your job, if you're one of
these guys that are like, you know, borderline practice squad, Obviously,
the preseason is super important because that determines potentially whether
or not, you know, if you could show out I
have a little bit of a highlight reel in there
in preseason, then maybe the coaching staff looks actually go, okay, yeah,
he's worth keeping around.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
But I mean, if I'm not mistaken, didn't the Lions.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Have some kind of weird like when they were really
bad and like it was almost impossible they would win a.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I was gonna say in the preseason they were. They
were actually decent.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Like I I don't want to say, I'm pretty certain
the year they went winless in the regular season, they
were undefeated in the preseason. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.
I'm almost positive on that. So, I mean sixteen, but
they were four and in the so what does it
matter matter?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Well?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
But I look at this though, and that's what that's
my first question is that, Well, of course it doesn't matter, right,
it's NFL preseason. Yeah, it doesn't matter at all. But
then when I dive into it a little bit more,
just based on you only have four preseason games per year, Yeah, yeah,
so there's the longevity of it and statistically speaking, how
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could that play out? Based on also just looking at
it from a roster turnover perspective, Yeah, and it's not.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Even from year to year.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I'm talking about from preseason game one to two to
three to four. Yeah, the players that they have out
there are almost completely different. Yeah, I mean there's still
a core group of players that are out there. But
that's why I look at it, and I know you're
probably thinking I'm crazy, but I think this is one
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of the most bizarre and amazing and ridiculous stats that
we have out there. Yeah, and then you say, and
it's meaningless because it is.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Right, That's what it is. More bizarre, Yeah, doesn't it. Yeah,
I mean it's almost.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Like a Seinfeld episode or Curby your Enthusiasm, right, I mean,
it means nothing, but it means something because it was
absolutely insane that they were able to win twenty four
straight preseason games.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Again, at some point you think that it would level
out and like to go that long with with preseason.
A point that I feel like, that's what I was
trying to get at is I feel like most of
the NFL looks at it and it's like, a, it
doesn't really matter if we win or we lose, And like,
I don't know that Baltimore necessarily cared like I'm sure
it was talked about like, hey, man, that's number twenty
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four after they get it's probably after the fact, like
they win the game and they go, oh, yeah, that's
twenty four straight right there.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
But they're not. I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I'd highly doubt they're thinking going into the preseason game, man,
we gotta get twenty five, we gotta get twenty six,
you know.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But it is a bizarre stat that s it is
pretty impress Yeah, there's no doubt that they're not thinking about, oh,
we got to keep this streak alive. Right now. They
might be tongue in cheek saying that, all.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Right, come on, guys, let's keep the winning ways.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Ultimately, we know it's all about.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
The regular season, and then more importantly it's about the postseason.
But you can't get into the postseason unless you have
success in the regular season, so you've got to carry
it from that perspective. But I just think it's one
of the craziest things that we've seen, and probably nobody
even talks about it enough. Again, just from the statistical probability,
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and that's where I nerd out that how in the
world did this happen? And then just knowing that it's
completely irrelevant because nobody cares. But I also look at
streaks during the regular season. If you don't winning a championship,
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did those streaks matter either? I mean they do, yeah,
they do, but they lose their lusters, so to speak.
But I think this one is just it's irrelevant, just
solely based on its pre season and that makes sense
to me there, right.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I do wonder.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
From a stat perspective, because there's I mean there's I
feel like there's stats for everything. How many of those
go floating under the radar that are just totally like
those type of bizarre stats that are crazy like that,
but they're totally meaningless and nobody talks about them, so
they just they just like, there are probably stats out
there that we have no idea about, streaks like that
that happened that we just don't track, but would probably
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blow your mind. But it doesn't matter because we just
it doesn't matter. Oh, there's there has to be a
ton and it wouldn't surprise me if there's some social
media account out there that is already.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Doing it and we just don't know that.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, yeah, I just don't follow it or has it
have it come across it? So I probably need to
nerd out and try to find some of those, because
it does blow me away just some of the things
that we've seen, not only in sports, but in life.
Just from a statistical standpoint, right, I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Well that's like.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I feel like the last couple of years I've seen it.
I haven't seen one this year, but the uh, I
can't even remember the like the weird circle of events,
like like, oh, back when this super Bowl happened.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
And it took place in New Orleans, the what was it?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Like the Panthers played Jacksonville in the opener and lost,
but then played this team at this time, like and
all these weird circle of events that all just happened
to coincide the first time this super Bowl came around,
and it culminated in a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Appearance for the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
And then they correlated that all of a sudden, those
exact sort of cherry picked events are happening again.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
And then the question mark is, well do the Panthers
go to the super Bowl? That was one I think
that last year.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
But yes, I haven't seen one of those this year,
but I have at least, I mean, we've been doing
this aince twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I think I've seen it at least twice.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, And I think there's also with statistics, you do
have to be careful because what you're talking about cherry picking.
I mean, you can make stats tell the story oh yeah,
that you want to tell, Yeah, within reason, but you
can manipulate some of the context to fit the narrative, right,
(32:34):
that you want to talk about and that you want
to highlight. So that's the thing that you do have
to be at least aware of when you're talking about stats,
because you can utilize the same type of stats and
you can have two different views as far as how
those stats affect a certain type of situation. And that's
what is even crazy to me as well, is that, Okay,
(32:58):
now you really have to start thinking about, Okay, how
am I going to formulate this opinion based on these stats,
because I can maybe have two or three different directions
how I want to go these stats.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
So okay, so let just file that one away. It's
going to file it away that that's a bizarre.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
One, yeah, because I have been wanting to talk about
that for a while, so it only makes perfect sense.
We can talk about it preseason, right, Yeah, We've got
six games tonight. Yeah, I do have to remember that. Okay,
So the James Daniels oh that I didn't want to
talk about, and I'm going to talk about some college
football coming up in hour two because there are some
games I want to highlight that I think I'm excited about. Yeah,
(33:39):
and I'm curious as far as some of the listeners
out there if they're excited about it also. But according
to Adam Schefter who reported it earlier, is that an
attorney representing Commander's quarterback Jane Daniels informed LSU and basically said, hey,
this whole nil thing, you're done with using my name,
(34:03):
image and likeness. And this was according to a letter
that back in August fifth I think is what it says,
based on ESPN's Mark Schlaybaugh and again posted out there
by Adam Schefter, But basically it relates to situation where
(34:27):
the number five was given to another player at LSU
this year, and DJ Pickett is the player, and so
according to the reports, that Jayden Daniels is upset that
they would disrespect him that bad by giving his number
(34:49):
to another player, and so now he has filed a
letter of cease and desist using anything associated with Jayde
Daniels at LS you, including the Heisman trophy, because there's
two Heisman trophies. School gets one, yeah, and the player
gets one, okay, and Jayden Daniels is saying, hey, and
(35:12):
I don't even want you showing.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
The Heisman trophy anymore. That's where this has gotten to.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Based on again the number five and now LSU never
retired number five, and it's got its own policy according
to various lawyers out there that have looked into it
about reissuing, they can do it at the coaches discretion.
So I mean, is this cease and assist just pure theater?
(35:42):
And like, why would Jaden Daniels even do this? I
just have no idea why he would be focused on
this as of right now.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Look, there's the.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
One side of it I look at like he I mean,
it's if it's his name and now the number is
crazy you don't own a number. But like, I feel
like at any point in time, a player reserves the
right with their name, image and likeness, like it's theirs,
you know, if as long as it's within whatever the
contract states, Like I feel like they should they should
have the right to revoke that because it is it
(36:19):
is them, Like I understand that this to me is
super petty, Like I can't even begin Like maybe there's
a part that makes it, Like maybe if it were
something else that made sense, I could look at Jadan
Daniels go, Okay, I see where you're coming from, Like
I understand you're right, Like I get that it's your name,
it's your image, at your.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Likeness, but this is just such a petty reason.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I mean, it just doesn't make sense beyond petty, yes,
beyond So according to Adam Schefter, he did just recently
put something on x and it's a post on Instagram
from Jaden Daniels okay, and it says I have been
(37:03):
locked in. I have been locked in on training camp
and that's been my number one focus. I have a
lot of gratitude for my time at LSU, and I'm
proud of what my teammates and I accomplish there. Obviously,
there are issues to be worked out between my team
and LSU, and my hope is that it will get done. Privately,
my sole personal focus is on Commander's football. I realize
(37:26):
the business of football is unique, and I trust this
can all be resolved, Cya. I mean, hello, I just
(37:46):
based on he's mad about DJ Pickett getting the number five.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
That's my point is that, I mean, you have situations
where even like at Clemson, the number four was retired. Yeah,
Steve Fuller, it was retired, and he allowed them to
bring it out of retirement as a special situation for
Deshaun Watson, and he and Deshaun Watson would wear a
(38:17):
patch again making sure to honor that.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Hey, basically they're lending.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I'm being lent the number four because it has been retired.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
That's different. Number five has not been retired.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Right at LSU, So Lane Kiffen, he could promise it
to anybody if he wanted to. Yeah, and now again,
I say all of this because you know, there's got
to be more information.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
There's got to be more to this story.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Than just how it seems coming across some of the
headlines from ESPN, Fox Sports, on social media, whatever it
might be. There's enough smoke that Jayden Daniels has to
put something out. And I'm he's not putting out the fire.
He's almost fan in the flames, Yes, exactly, I mean right,
(39:11):
I mean, Jayden, I think you just don't even say anything.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yeah, I would just avoid it, or you know, maybe
the lawyer drafts. I don't know, Like it's just, first
of all, it just shouldn't have been in the first place.
Like depending on again, to your point, there's probably more
to it, but if it is at its surface this,
it just shouldn't have been a thing to begin with.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, it definitely shouldn't have been.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
And I know Darren Heidner who's a lawyer, and he's
been big in the NIL space and has filed a
lot of lawsuits based on the five for five eligibility
rules all of that, and he has even posted saying
that Jayden Daniels and his lawyer have no legal claim
(39:58):
to exclusive control over the jersey number the quarterback war
for two seasons at LSU, and says this is a
ridiculous claim. The season desist really shows how asserted it is,
and the demands that LSU stop using Daniel's name, image,
and likeness, citing a contractual window that expired one hundred
and eighty days after his final college game, which closed
(40:21):
long ago, appears to be an emotional reaction, not.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
A cause of action.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
So I.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Think that.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
This is almost just a situation of James Daniels being hurt.
But I don't know if it's just because of the
number five being worn by somebody else. The it's got
to just be something more into this, And because this
happens consistently, schools will make commitments that somebody can wear
(40:59):
that number, especially if it's not retired. So I think
this is just a I don't know what it is
necessarily because if we don't have all of the information,
but what I would say, it doesn't seem to be
a good look. Yeah, Jayden and Daniels ultimately because now
it's a distraction of course going into his third year,
like yeah, that's not what you want. Yeah, now they're
(41:20):
already making jokes that teammates for the commanders they can't
give him a high five, they have to give him
a high four, you know. I mean, I mean it's
just it's more questions are going to be asked.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
And then you know that and of course if he
underperforms this year, I mean, it's it's only going to.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Come back exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
That's what I'm saying, Jaden, let it go, Let it go.
It's okay, it is okay, all right, What you can't
let go is the opportunity to join the conversation. We
got to hit this brake, but the phone lines are
open eight six four two four zero five four eight zero.
Again that number is eight six four two four zero
Z five to four eight zero as we'll continue this
(42:02):
Thursday edition of the Richmond Weaver Show presented by Ingles
Markets much more right after this here.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
On one oh four nine Fox Sports Upstate eight six four.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Triple seven ninety five ninety three. That is the text
line again, eight six four triple seven ninety five ninety three.
Here on this Thursday edition other Richmond Weaver Show presented
by our good friends at Ingles Markets. And make sure
you get out to your local Ingles here right before
the weekend. And we do have NFL preseason games tonight,
(42:36):
so you might be having some friends over getting ready
for the opportunity of being optimistic about your team. And
you can be very optimistic about Ingles. I can promise
you that they're going to do their best to save
money for you because they do a great job forming
local partnerships with farmers in the area to reduce some
(42:58):
of the transportation costs and also of course get your
quality food that's part of it from that perspective, and
then you can save money not only inside the store,
but also they're at the gas pump by getting the
Ingles Advantage card and scan that each time you earn
those points, and then you can turn those points into
savings at the gas pump. Because I know, gas prices
(43:19):
they're all over the map coming back down a little bit,
but you never know, helps.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Every little bit.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Helps, and I mean cost of food also, these days,
it is expensive. I do know that, and that's why
I mean again, Ingles does everything that they can to
keep prices down, but we do know that just each and.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Every year, I mean, things get more expensive. It's just
the reality of it.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
But you can also be assured that you have the
ability to have curb side pickup, which I know, mister Falco,
you like that they're at Ingles. And also the best
meat in town. And if you don't feel like doing
a whole bunch of cooking, they'll do it for you.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
It's good, it's easy.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
You just walk in, they've already prepped, they've already prepared.
You can even get party platters all of that. So
that's why we love Ingles. Oh yeah, not even just
from a perspective of how involved they are in the
community and of course, you know, helping the show and
the station here. Yeah, but just trying to make life
easier for you.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Oh yeah, you know, and like.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
You could go anywhere, right, that's it's But like, to me,
the biggest thing about angles, I know where everything is
because they're all sat up the same and that like,
to me, it's like it's it's almost like shopping in
my own pantry, right, Like.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
I know where it is. I I walk in, like
I need this, I walk here, I walk there.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
I feel like that's so often to overlook because there
are other places that you go in and every store
is totally different, and I don't know where things are,
that's right. But I know when I walk into at Ingles,
if I need milk, I know where it's at.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I know I know where it's at. I love it,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
And when I say, Mays, is that a lot of
grocery stores they do feel like that. They do, and
sometimes it's hard to decipher. I've even come across at
times we're like why would you have this product.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
On this aisle? Why wouldn't you have it? Yes, where
it seems to fit in the other places.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yes, and and being truthful, I've I've run into that
with angles a couple of times, but for the most
part it has been pretty consistent.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yeh.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
But yes, to your point, the stores are the same
now some of the news stores now that's different.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
As we talked about, they're getting up.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yes, and and I love that they're evolving, you know,
from that side of things. But there is something nice
about when you go into the grocery store and you
don't have to think about where you need to go. Yeah,
it's almost like you're an autopilot. Yeah, you go up
and down the aisles and that's it.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
And then everyone's while they'll throw one little thing like
especially you go ooh, and that makes it into my
cart because I look at it and I'm like, oh that
it's usually to end caps.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
I look at it and go, Okay, that looks good.
How often does that happen? I'd love mode the percentage.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
You mean me or just in general, because in general,
so you skew the numbers, is what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
That's why I shop online on the curb side pickup,
so that I don't add extra.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Stuff to my cart. I shop hungry. You have talked
about that a lot. I'm bad.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
My wife's bad about it. To Morgan, we're both going
there and we have to we have to remind each other.
I know we're hungry right now.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
This is the list, and you don't always stay on
that list. Now you don't know, but that's the beauty
of it. Be a new thing. I'll be like, oh,
that looks good right yet.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, you are spot on though, And I know a
lot of people have talked about this too.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Going to the grocery store hungry. You can run into some.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Challenging budget up, Yes you can, all right, make sure
you get to your local Ingles Ingles low prices, love
the savings. Yeah, we do have to hit this brake
as we're almost right here at the top of the hour.
We've got college football to talk about. What about also
Major League Baseball? Field of Dreams Tonight Phillies versus The
Twins on Netflix. Much more of this Thursday edition of
(47:08):
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