The Richmond Weaver Show 2026-8-14 Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Threw.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Aller had one hundred and fifty three yards and three
total touchdowns as the Steelers took down the Packers twenty
eight to nine. Dodgers Blue a four to two lead,
losing to the Brewers five to four.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:11):
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Speaker 5 (00:30):
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of August, so we are just weeks away from fully
getting into the swing of college football and the NFL
of course, with the NFL in terms of preseason is
already kicked off, and so we'll talk a little bit
about that. But you can join the conversation eight six
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to jump in as quickly as you can. Doesn't matter
what's on your mind. Come on in. We'll talk about
it again. I know we'll be having reactionary Monday's therapy
sessions pretty soon. Yeah, yeah, c will Oh, it's getting

(02:32):
very close, and so I need to know from your perspective,
how much did you take away from the game last
night The Steelers beat the Packers twenty eight to nine.
Mike McCarthy gets his revenge on the Packers.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Yeah, right there in the preseason.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
You know, if you take away from Pittsburgh Steelers Twitter,
ah with Drew Aller.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
You know, he's our guys, our franchise guy. You know,
he came to save the town, you know, down town.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Mike McCarthy's our guy. Love Mike McCarthy, Big Mike. It's
it's preseason, man. Of course, there were there were some takeaways, like,
for instance, I know it's early, but the penalties were
pretty bad against the Steelers. Obviously, you've got a young
line there, so I hope as the as the weeks
go on through preseason, you see that clean up some
you've also got a team here, well, I guess the

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coaching staff with Mike McCarthy, they're very big on versatility.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
There on the line, which in the long term is good.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
But right now you've got guys that are playing, I
think in positions that maybe they're not comfortable in or
they haven't played in a while. And I'm gonna tell
you right now, if that's the same line that we
get week one, Aaron Rodgers is probably gonna have a
season one Jets moment because it's gonna be hurt. Oh,
it's it's it's not great. Mason Rudolph was, yeah, oh,
it's pretty bad quarterback play. There's not really, it's what.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Kind of what you expect.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Okay, I expected Drew Aller a third round pick at
one point, I think was projected as a first round
Maybe not in this draft, but I think.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
At the beginning of the season was his name was up,
there was Kay club Nick and Leonora Sellers and all
the other guys, I.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Would expect him to dice up a third string like.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's kind of what you expect out of a guy
that has that sort of prospect.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
So, like, I wasn't overly enthusiastic with Drew Aller.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I will say, from a scheme perspective, it does seem
like offensively, it looks like this is jelling a little
bit better. Mike McCarthy's attack in the middle of a
field more, which is nice.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
That's different.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Like those are some observations, but from the actual gameplay
is you know, what is this player?

Speaker 5 (04:25):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Like? I'm not taking a whole lot away. I will
say the only player that I did was Broderick Jones.

Speaker 7 (04:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
You remember he was a first round pick a few
years ago. He's was our left tackle. Me, he was
right tackle, me, back to left. I keep switching him around.
He played I think every snap, so you're diving into
the O line.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Now, well he played.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I mean he was there in the fourth quarter and
I'm like with but none of the other line where
and so that to me stood out, like obviously he
was dealing with injuries coming into this season, so maybe
they're just testing the waters and seeing how he's holding up.
I don't know if they don't believe in him, Like
I just wonder what's going on there, because I mean,
that's a guy that's been here a while that now
he's playing an entire preseason game.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
That's not a good look to me. But also I don't.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Know, like I'm not there with the coaching staff. Those
are my takeaways from Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Well, again, as we've talked about, Hey, you're a fan
of Pittsburgh, so yeah, you're going to dive into it
a little bit more. But how much are you taking
away from preseason?

Speaker 6 (05:22):
Yeah? I don't think of.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
A lot in cool I don't care.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, of course, anytime that your team is playing, you're
at least going to be intrigued. Yeah, and that's why
I'm going to be intrigued tonight with the Cowboys taken
on the Seahawks. Yes, of course I'm going to be
intrigued about that and see how that's going to play out.
Just in terms of okay, what you're describing and excuse

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me that Saturday night. I keep thinking now today Saturday,
but Saturday night for the Cowboys and the Seahawks. But
the thought process is the intrigue. I just want to see,
is there a little bit better? I guess look to
the defense for the Cowboys.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
And you have to take that with a grain of salt.
Here in the preseason. But even to your point, just
some of the things, Okay, penalties, those are things you
can start watching. And especially when you're talking about the
offensive side. You know, is there situations where you know
it's holding or illegal shifts or movement on the line

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the guys are not you know, the snap count issues,
those type of things. There's a lot of that with Yeah,
you can work through those, and that's probably going to
be expected right now early on as everybody's learning from
that nervous, they're anxious, they're excited, oh of course, and
then everybody's going to be fixated on the quarterback, and

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especially when you're looking at quarterbacks that are trying to
prove themselves and maybe even live up to expectations. And
like a Fernando Mendoza yes night as the Cardinals beat
the Raiders though twenty seven to fourteen.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
But Mendoza, I guess he looked the part.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, as everybody was questioning just how he was going
to come out and play ten of sixteen ninety seven
yards a touchdown. So okay, yeah, that's not a bad
way to come out there and get a little bit
of experience what it's like in the NFL and I
just I even loved hearing him talking about the difference

(07:27):
between college and the NFL or what was it like,
you know, come into a first NFL game, And he
even broke it down in terms of, yeah, this first
time that I can remember that I had to drive
to the stadium because in college, you got on a
bus and they took us to the stadium. About that, Yeah,
And so I mean Clemson does the same thing obviously

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taking the buses around in terms of getting there into
the stadium.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
So it's just those little things.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
And he was talking about just the autonomy that you
have as an NFL player, and that's what we've talked
about so much, is that, Yeah, you're regimented in terms
of OTAs and training camp and practices. You got to schedule,
but once once you're done with that portion of the
day and you leave the facility, you're on your own. Yeah,

(08:19):
it's no more oh hey, yes, we're having team meal
back over here, or you're you know, it's you have
to self direct and be intentional about other things that
you're doing if you're getting together with other teammates, et cetera.
So it's just not because everybody has families or most
most NFIL players have families or some semblance of a family,

(08:39):
whatever it might be. Or more importantly, they just have
their own plans. Yeah, they're going to do what they
want to do. But you look at these quarterbacks and
how it's going to play out for some of these teams,
and especially when you're in a situation where these quarterbacks
are drafted high, and it made me start thinking just

(09:00):
in terms of if you're an NFL organization, I think
it's more with the NFL than it is in college,
but you could probably look at it from any lens
as far as football, college, high school, NFL. But again,
I'm talking more specifically about the NFL and the uncertainty

(09:22):
of your quarterback. We talk about it so much, oh yeah,
and how important it is. So I'm beating the drum
way too much here in terms of talking about how
important the quarterback play is. We all know that, but
I think there's something about in the NFL how important
it is in terms of trying to figure out your

(09:45):
quarterback situation. I think if your quarterback is going to fail,
you want to know.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
As fast as possible.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Oh yeah, yes, I don't think you want to be
sitting there with any uncertainty because I think in today's
modern NFL, with the salary cap and the rookie wage
era and obviously you know a fifth year option that
you have with these quarterbacks, being uncertain about your quarterback,

(10:15):
I think that's worse than knowing he's a bust. Yeah,
I would rather know oh it's not working. It's almost
that aspect of let's rip the band aid off and
move on.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, And it's it's even worse when you have them
where they where they have that year where they flash right,
the flash in the pan. Oh yeah, And then there's
nothing worse than you overpay for a guy because it
comes up and you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, we think
he's our guy because you're so hyped because everybody's looking
for that quarterback. Hello Mac Jones, Hello Dimes like that
flash in the pan, and all of a sudden they

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get paid and it's like, whoa, this is not who
we paid for.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
I agreed, And I don't think you want to be
in quarterback purgatory. No, no, I just don't think you do.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Yeah, hello Steeler.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, I was just gonna say it's trubisky, Canny Pickett.
Obviously Ben Roethlisberger, but that kind of down towards the
end of his career. Ben Roethlisberger with the arm that
was cooked, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, justin fields like and
I know that's nothing compared to like the Browns or
the Jets obviously, but or like.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
Larry Fitzgerald back in the day.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's twenty two different quarterbacks Cardinals, y during his career.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
No, it's not a fun quarterback purgatory.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Oh yeah, that's not a good situation if you're an
NFL organization because it again with the financial situations and
especially with the value the dollars that are being spent.
I should say for these quarterbacks when you're getting into
that fifty million dollars a year yep range, and you

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better know that quarterback is worth it rather than well,
who else we got, who else we got? Exactly who
else is out there? I think you need to know
as quick a glee as possible, and it can hurt,
don't get me wrong, Yeah, because nobody wants to come
to that conclusion.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yep. We missed on this one.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
And I was thinking about just like with the Colts
with Anthony Richardson playing last night, not that he played bad, right, but.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
He was also fourth overall. Hello, if you went.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
In the third or fourth round, okay, cool, Anthony Richardson,
I did, all right.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
He's a fourth overall.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Pick eleven of fourteen, one hundred and forty five yards
in an interception for Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
As the Colts and the Patriots ending a tie, are.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
We is it? Okay?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Are we almost to the point with the way that
the quarterback market is going? Because it's only going to
go up, Like I don't know when it's gonna bubble
and pop. I think eventually it has to write with
the way the salary caps are are constructed, Like you
can't just keep paying these guys. This is I think, Well, yeah, true,
But I almost wonder, and the Seahawks have kind of
done this. Could you go the veteran route, pay a

(13:07):
little less design with a just a great defense, a
great run game, and make a run at it that way?

Speaker 6 (13:14):
Like is that a?

Speaker 5 (13:16):
Is that now? A?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I mean, obviously it is a viable way to do it,
because the Seahawks have done it. I just wonder at
what point do team start looking at it and like,
unless it's someone like a Patrick Mahomes that truly is
a real game changer. Is it worth taking these rookies
and picking up the extra contract if they if they
start showing Like I get that, there's the obviously the

(13:39):
fear of missing out, but.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
At a certain point, well is it?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
But aren't you right back in that quarterback purgatory because
you don't know? Yeah, because you're in that dilemma. Yeah,
do we pay this guy right or do we go
get a veteran guy that we potentially could pay less
or maybe you're not paying less?

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Or do you go back to the l multiple times?
Do we see him drafting more quarterbacks?

Speaker 5 (14:03):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
You get a quarterback that's on his fourth or coming
up on a fifth year option, and you declient it because, ah,
we just really don't think he's the guy. He hasn't
shown us anything, and you go get a guy in
the first round again or the second round.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
I think that if if I'm an organization, I want
to know as quickly as possible so then I can redraft, yeah,
and try to find that quarterback because of whatever that
looks like.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, because I think these organizations get too caught up.
And I saw it with Kenny Pickett, Like you look
at Kenny Pickett and you're like it just this is
I get you. You you got him at twenty one.
It's first first round. Like, but at a certain point,
when do you pull the plug and go, hey, this
is not working out. At a certain point you have
to move off of And it didn't seem like the
Steelers up until a certain point weren't really willing.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's like, we got we gotta try because we spent
so much draft capital on this guy.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
He has to work out. And that's not the way
it works. It's not the way people work.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yes, no, because I think there's when you're looking at football,
and especially NFL organizations and the fans and even the
front offices of those organizations, don't we hear that, maybe
more so from the front office than the fans because
we want it so fast.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
Yeah, it's about patience, it's about development.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Right, trust the process, you know.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
Those type of things.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
But in today's NFL economy, I don't know if you
can trust the process without it hurting you long term. Right,
if you're if you're really just like, man, oh, this
is not now trending? Well, because I think quarterback mediocrity
I think is far more destructive than outright failure.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I would agree with that, and it leads you to
this weird cycle of cause because it feels like, especially
if it's a first round pick, right, you get in
this weird cycle of well, I don't think it's working out,
but like, let's go get the quarterback guru, let's hire
somebody to fix this person, because that's we're just that
we're gonna invest in that. And it feels so taboo

(16:01):
from an NFL perspective, like even Anthony Richardson, like, I
feel like it's pretty clear that's not working out, but
they still haven't moved I mean they moved on, but
they haven't drafted. I mean obviously they've also with the
way they've handled their draft picks too, that's given away
the first it's kind of hard to yes, but that's
even knowing that was knowing that Anthony Richardson is not
your guy, having Danny Dimes there and then and then

(16:24):
deciding well, we're going to trade away both of our
first round picks for the next two years for a
corner or.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Who they get.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Oh, I can't remember, I forget it was came from
the Jets anyways.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Uh so you're trading away these two first round picks
when you know your quarterback is not the guy.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
Yeah, because and you're counting on Daniel Jones to be
the guy.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Because you took that guy in the first round. Is
that why you're not moving off of him? And you're
scared to burn another first round pick on somebody.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Like I don't understands what. That's my point is that
you got to be okay with it. Yeah, you gotta
be able to move on. Rip the band aid off. Hey,
we missed on that one. Let's go and let's yeah,
let's work the next set of challenges, whatever they might be.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
But just sitting in there in that gray zone, that
gray area.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Right, that's no fun, that's no goods like it, The
players don't like it. Hey, if I'm either it or
I'm not right. We got to figure this out. And
that's my point is that, hey, man, I'd rather know
quickly and sometimes maybe you have to invest in a
little bit more.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
In terms of.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Your research, your evaluation, whatever it might be, in your
player personnel to try to put your organization in the
best place possible to make those decisions. And then also
guess what, You've got to be able to point that
there's a leader within the organization that has the final

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say and you go with it.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
Boom, that's it and we're moving on.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
And you also have to just be okay with the
fact that sometimes you miss you do. I feel like
that's a big thing in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's like, can't we can't own that we missed on
this pick And like, dude, guys just for whatever reason,
sometimes they don't pan out, they don't translate.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Well, you have to be okay with that. It's it's
an art form, not a science.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
It is there's no doubt. All Right, we got to
hit this break.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
And when we return here on this Friday edition, Brian Kite,
author of Dailydiscipline dot Com, will be joining us and
the author of the Daily Discipline newsletter that you can
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All right, we'll have him in the next segment, So
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we get to bring another investor in mister Brian Kite
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at six a m. It's great insight, but I need

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to know from your perspective seeing some of the pictures
you sent me. My goodness, you guys have had one
hell of a week up there in Ohio.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
Yeah, it's been crazy. We had a we had a
crazy storm blow through here and I learned a new word.
We'll tell you about a direct sho v R E
c h O. You can google it or rocket or
wherever it is that you look things up these days,
But a direct sho I learned.

Speaker 8 (19:40):
A directo is basically, if you.

Speaker 7 (19:42):
Uncurled a tornado and instead of having it being a
spinning circular vortex funnel, and you just put it in
a straight line and blew those winds straight ahead. That's
what a direct sho is. So it's like a like
an unwound tornado blowing in a straight line, like a
like down a corridor, except this corridor is about a
half mile wide. And so we had a giant storm

(20:02):
and then two derechos blew through and literally we were
right down the corridor. The house we live in right
now is on the same street as the house we're building,
had two homes on the street. Wow, and it blew,
it blew straight through and we took no damage. But

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if you stood on the porch of our new house
that will be done in September October here pretty soon.
I mean it's almost done. Probably about a fifty foot tree.
You texted a picture. It went right through the living
room of the house directly across from us, and there's
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (20:39):
It looks I mean, it looks right.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
Now like a full on disaster zone in town. So
you know, we've had we've had third and fourth grade teams,
so we didn't get to practice in with plus rain
every single day. So it's been it's been crazy. We
just got power back from Tuesday morning until last night.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Wow, well, it does look a little similar to when
Hurricane Helene came through this whole area of the country
here in the Upstate and western North Carolina, and so
we do understand a little bit what you're going through. Yeah,
I've never heard of this directo. I mean, do you
know how it gets started versus the difference between that

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and tornado? And I wonder why I have never heard
this before.

Speaker 7 (21:23):
Here's what I know from direct observation. It gets very
very dark, very very fast, and then you know what
goes crazy.

Speaker 8 (21:33):
That's what I know about the Red Hill right now.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
The crazier part was I was out speaking and I
wasn't far away. I was like ten minutes away. I
was speaking and we had Florida ceiling windows in the
room where I was speaking. I was I was doing
a keynote out of school. There's Florida ceiling windows, and
the when it went dark, it literally it literally rich
went at night. I started at nine point thirty. At
about nine five, I mean, ten to fifteen minutes in,

(21:58):
it got so dark outside that I actually stopped my
keynote and asked them if they had those mirrors that
like smoke, you know, like you know they have this
mirror that like kind of dark ken or whatever. I
asked them right in the middle of the keynote. I said,
do you do you guys have like the darkening mirrors?
And they said no, and we all looked outside and

(22:19):
it was midnight black. I mean, it was midnight black.
And then ten minutes later I was actually delivering and
it it kind of did work out this way where
I like, I made like a big point and I
like and I was like, and I said something like,
you know, and that's like, it's sort of like a crescendo, right,
And I kind of hit this crescendo and I kind
of made a big sort of power movement with my
hand and what I did the transformer on the powerpole

(22:41):
across the street outside the windows exploded giant blue yellow
electric lights. When everywhere sparks went flying. Women flew out
of their chairs. And I told them, see, when they
asked you how powerful the speaker was, you tell them
that powerful exactly. So my wife was out looking for
groceries and she got stuck in the storm while my
kids who were young were home alone, and they called

(23:04):
and sent the powers out. She got stuck in the
actual storm that was. Here's how fast the winds were blowing.
I don't know if you saw this, there were there's
there's footage you find it on x just a car
driving down the freeway in Columbus and the wind blew
just flipped the car over, lifted her up in the
air and flipped it straight over.

Speaker 8 (23:22):
That's how That's how hard they were going.

Speaker 7 (23:24):
So my wife ended up driving in the storm in
the dead sick of it. And turns out she was
driving right through the directou. She had to drive over
a down down power lines and the pole, and she
had to drive over felled trees of significance in her tahoe. So,
you know, I was thankful I got her in that. Yeah,

(23:45):
she was like, I gotta get home to my kiddos.
You know, wown get don't go. Don't get between a
MoMA and her kid.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
You know, Oh, mama bears watch out some supernatural type
of stuff trying to get back to their cubs.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
I do know that.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
Well well obviously, no, no, I haven't even heard any injuries.
I'm sure there's probably something somewhere, but we've not heard
any injuries. You know, a few families we know have
some house damage. But everybody's safe, every physically okay and
all in all, uh, we we got off lucky, but

(24:24):
the damage is pretty.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Significant, yes, no doubt. Well again, glad that seems to be.
Everybody is safe, things can be rebuilt. We do know that.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Yeah, it's inconvenient and all of that.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
But as long as everybody is health and safe or
you know, has good health and there safe from that
type of situation, that's just absolutely crazy. But hey, we
also appreciate you helping us learn something new though, Directo.

Speaker 8 (24:49):
Yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
One of the things I wanted to talk to you
about because I was just talking about it here in
the first segment, because it actually somewhat correlates to what
I read this morning and the headline that you had
on the newsletter, don't get stuck in your own head,
And I was thinking, you know, after reading that, and
then I was thinking about what I was seeing with

(25:12):
some of the NFL quarterbacks right now, and especially like
a Fernando Mendozo when you're the number one overall pick,
you know, quarterbacks that are drafted high in the expectations
in terms of being able to deliver those expectations and produce.
But as you know, BK. I mean drafting a quarterback.

(25:33):
In especially the quarterback position, it's sometimes hard to really
predict and understand what that ceiling can be for a quarterback,
especially making that transition from college to the NFL. But
we know NFL teams, man, it's all about fomo. They've
got to have a quarterback. They don't want to miss
out on a quarterback. But it's an art form to

(25:56):
be able to draft these guys and fully understand what
their ceiling might be. But I was even thinking in
terms of, hey, sometimes you've got to be okay with
missing that it was whatever your decision that you made,
you made a bad decision, say, you know, drafting and

(26:18):
Anthony Richardson in the first round, fourth overall a few
years ago. That probably is a bad decision for the
Indianapolis Colts. And I think there's a point where these
NFL organizations don't get stuck in your own head. Basically,
you've got to be able to like rip the band
aid off and realize, we made a mistake. We've got
to move forward. We can't be in this gray zone,

(26:40):
this great area ambiguity.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 7 (26:46):
It does?

Speaker 8 (26:47):
It does?

Speaker 7 (26:48):
That's just not what gets these guys in trouble, and
it's not what keeps them there. Okay, so I agree completely,
I mean completely, But what keeps them there is one.
They picked Anthony Richardson for a reason, and the same
thought processes that said, maybe Anthony Richardson is our ticket

(27:10):
to winning super Bowls is the same thinking that has
to make the next choice. And picking Anthony Richardson as
your quarterback demonstrates incompetence. God blessed Anthony Richardson's Okay, sure,
he's a great dude. At no point has he ever
been good at quarterback. So the people that looked at
him and said he'll be really good at quarterback, they've

(27:31):
demonstrated that they don't have qualities that should ever be
in that position at a front office. Yeah ever ever,
rich So the same people you're saying, don't get suck
in your own head or like no, no, my dude,
you do need to get out of your own heads,
Like you need to replace the whole head. Yes, you
got to replace the whole thing. That's number one. Right,

(27:53):
And I'm you know, I'm listening, I'm being directed. I'm
being directed on that, and it's like, you know, right,
just because the anti Richard's an example, right, that was
just obvious. I mean, it was just it was silly, right, Like,
it's just don't draft a person who's never played good
quarterback ever and then think that Like, honestly, Bryce Young,

(28:13):
I understand why people wanted to draft in, but Bryce
Young did not belong drafted in the first round. There's
never been a quarterback in the history of the NFL
who has ever looked like him physically that has ever
won anything. So it's not that Bryce Young can't win,
and it's not that there is a zero percent chance
you could ever do it. It's just that it's never
happened before ever, And you don't spend a first round

(28:36):
pick on that, and let alone trade as much away
as the Panthers did. Yeah, so when you have that,
you yeah, exactly, you've got that kind of thinking, which
just tells me immediately, all right, like you one have
incompetent thinking and decision making, which is.

Speaker 8 (28:54):
A big problem.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
Number two is you very obviously have a culture problem
because nobody in your organization was willing to say, guys,
this is a bad use of resources. You cannot miss
on a first round pick. You can't so picking any
of these guys doesn't work. Those are two really big issues.
And then the third issue, and the real human nature dynamic,
is that cutting bait and moving on would require acknowledging

(29:21):
that mistake and then not having sunk cost. And it
takes too long. Like people don't do that. Their egos
are tied up, and we get a bunch of album
males to cut bait that quick. I mean, and listen,
self interest is undefeated. Okay, if you acknowledge that and
you cut bait, what you are sending a signal to
your organization and the rest of.

Speaker 8 (29:41):
The NFL is I didn't know what I was doing.

Speaker 7 (29:43):
I made the wrong choice, and it costs us a
lot of money. And people are not going to throw
that beacon up into the air hovering around them. So
they're going to fight every step of the way and
deflect everything, and they're going to try to you know,
the head coach is going to send it to the GM,
was going to send it to the scout, who was
going to send it to the or who's gonna say
it's the quarterback coach who's gonna send it to the Well,

(30:03):
you can't really trust what happens in combines anyway, it's
just kind of part of the nature of the game.
It's like, no, no, it's not part of the nature
of the game. It's it's bad choices. That's where it is.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
It is bad choices. And so.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
I'm even looking at those individuals who are making the
bad choices, though it does seem that it's consistent. And
that's why, I mean, I think your spot on self
interest is undefeated. Why they can't get to that conclusion
because I'm saying that, Hey, if I'm in a situation

(30:37):
like with the quarterback, I want to know pretty fast
is it a failure or not and then't be able
to move on. But to your point, we don't see
that in the NFL that often. We don't see people,
especially for the quarterback position, if they're drafted in the
first round and especially at number one, nobody wants to
admit that they missed.

Speaker 7 (30:58):
Correct, don't want to admit that they missed.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
And I mean, look, but doesn't that hurt But Brian,
doesn't that hurt the organization more than just being in
this limbo versus Yes, hey we missed on this. And
I guess my question is, you know, what does it
take for a leader to be able to be in

(31:23):
that position to be okay with.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
Hey, I'm admitting I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Where that balance is in terms of hey, yeah you
were wrong, but you can't be wrong too many times?

Speaker 5 (31:35):
B kay.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
We do know that.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
And so when does it get to that point where
all right, you're not competent enough to be in this position?

Speaker 7 (31:46):
Oh man, I mean like defining when it gets to
that point?

Speaker 6 (31:50):
Yeah, I know that.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
Yeah, I mean that is I mean that, I mean, shoot,
that's I don't want to say it like obviously you know,
not not flipant and and you know anything like that.
It's just like that's like the Holy Grail, right, I mean,
that's that's what you're that. That's what you're trying your
hardest to figure out, is Okay, how do we know
when we're at that spot?

Speaker 8 (32:11):
And it's tough?

Speaker 7 (32:15):
Uh uh?

Speaker 8 (32:17):
That's why this that's why.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
That's why these guys get paid what these guys get paid,
and the good ones stick around as long. But it's
also competitively. It's also you say the same thing in
college football, where it hm, there's not.

Speaker 8 (32:33):
You don't have to.

Speaker 7 (32:33):
Beat that many teams in the NFL. You don't have
to beat that many teams because most of them aren't
going to do these things that we're talking about. Right,
You're you're competing against the Jets and the Bengals and
the Browns, and we look at it to the lens
of pro organization, and it's pro in nature only from
the owner. But it's not excellence by any measure of

(32:53):
the imagination, right, it's not. And so you have you
have in college, you have the same kind of thing
where you have and you have coaches who I mean, listen,
I was just talking to a coach the other day,
a basketball coach, and you know, he was acknowledging. He's like, listen,
I'm the first to acknowledge that I've been a sucker
for talent and I've been in the like, if I

(33:14):
see talent, I canvix them, I can fix them. I
can fix them.

Speaker 8 (33:17):
And because I was asking, what is seen the uptick.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
In your performance and then your results, and it's He's like,
I stopped being infatuated with talent and I started choosing better,
what kind of person do I want here? And how
much talent can I get with the right kind of person.
It just this is why, this is why I do
what I do Rich because at the.

Speaker 8 (33:38):
End of the day, everything still runs on human beings.

Speaker 7 (33:42):
Yes, it all still runs on human beings. And if
human beings can't get right, you can't out talented. You
can't out talented it. I mean, you can go back
to you can go back to and pick your college
football team that stacked talent, and you can go back
Florida have been in adul drums? Why has an n

(34:02):
been in the doul drums? You know? You know South
Carolina has enough talent to perform better than it's performed
recently clumbs and has more talent than than than it's
performed recently. Why Because there's human being elements, yes, and
the human being elements are you know, why haven't we shifted? Like?
Why why hasn't Why hasn't Shane Biemer tried something different?

(34:25):
Why didn't Why didn't James Franklin ever do anything in
game different during his years at Penn State where he
only had one or two teams to beat? Why didn't
he ever change his in game approach? Right? We've talked
about how many times, like how long do you want
to look at the transfer portal? And and nil and say,
now we don't want to participate in that before you
realize that it's not going to do you any favors

(34:47):
to do that.

Speaker 8 (34:48):
It's human beings.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
Yes, so I don't know how long as long as
you're willing to tolerate those the consequences that come out.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
But it's not a mystery, right, Yeah, No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, and I know this very specific time line. It
is what you described. It's when do you get to
that point enough is enough? And that's that changes for
every situation because there's that human element into it, as
you talked about.

Speaker 7 (35:14):
Exactly exactly, and there's there's there's no way around it,
which is why this is why I do what I do,
because leading these things is really hard and it requires
there's no there's no there's no formula for when's the
right time, So somebody has to decide, like, for example,

(35:35):
when is it right? When is it the right time
for a head coach to move on from an assistant
coach who maybe has just take a little too long
to change right or or you know, let's let's get
let's get let's get very particular right the conversation and
you know only because Donal has talked about it a bunch.

Speaker 8 (35:51):
You know, Donnald is mentioned.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
You know, they don't want me here anymore. I'll go
somewhere else. I'm not done coaching, they say, I'm washing.
I'll kind of do a little thing. But how long
does an organization wait for a head coach who is
a little slow to change, Because we've seen this with
coaches in Davos position. You've seen this with right, Nick
Saban decided his way out right, Bobby Bowden had to decide.

(36:13):
Mark Rick at Georgia had to decide that went a
certain way, right. Urban Meyer kind of had the same
thing where it's like, hey, are we gonna you know,
what are we going to do? And it wasn't so
much like retirement or performance, but there's there's little issues
where you're like, ooh, this person is performed, but we're
starting to see certain signs. How long do we wait?
It's a judgment called every time, and that's the art.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
That's right, Yes, And I can think of another example,
Bobby Knight.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
I mean it was yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Coach that really wasn't ready to evolve at that time,
and Indiana had to move on at some point.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
Yeah, I mean, listen, you go, you've got a bunch.

Speaker 7 (36:47):
I mean, listen every year talking about hot seats, like,
you know, there are not every coach in the hot
seat like Lincoln Riley at USC, Like if Lincoln doesn't
perform very well this year, either a really tough schedule,
if he goes eight and four, you're paying him a
lot of money. Deon Sanders a collar autom it's eleven
million dollars.

Speaker 8 (37:08):
Yeah, what what do you do now? Sometimes right, sometimes
you might think.

Speaker 7 (37:13):
It's kind of easy. Well, sure it's easy if you're
not the one in there paying.

Speaker 8 (37:16):
The price, if you're not the.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
Ones taking your professional reputation against it. And I'm not
saying that's the reason not to do it. It's actually
just on a conversation on a podcast about culture of
of you know, the whole point of leading is you
do need to put your repue. You do need to
pay the price, and so you're paying the price as
the GM, the head coach, the scout, whatever you want.

(37:38):
Picking a quarterback, don't attach it, don't attach it to
cross your fingers and hope right. If you're gonna miss right,
if you're gonna miss I don't know, miss on miss
on on taking Calvin Johnson and being like, man, it
just didn't pan out, which happened sometimes with receivers.

Speaker 8 (37:53):
Right miss on taking a left tackle or a linebacker, you.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
Take a take a Sunny Styles or an RVL re
So you take you take the dtackles and the ends
coming out of Clemson, like you bet on these dudes
that are legit and then if they don't work out,
then it'll work out. But don't don't do it on
a fifty fifty coin flip. So then then you're gonna
put yourself in a bad position.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Oh you are, Yeah, And that's where I think I've
seen some of these fifty to fifty coin flips though,
and some of the most important positions. And that's the
trouble because then that's where I think it sets these
organizations back for longer than it would be if you
could make that quick decision. And I know it's just
not that easy, especially when you're looking at the NFL

(38:35):
when you're talking about, you know, the fifth year option
for some of these first rounders and you know you're
coming up on year four. I mean, like this quarterback
draft class with Bryce Young and Anthony Richardson and Will Levis,
those guys I mean, this is it that we're going
to have to Some of these organizations are going to
have to make a decision coming up.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
Bka.

Speaker 7 (38:56):
I mean they are, and I mean listen, now we're
getting into football stuff. Yes, my big thing, as I
talked about with all the coaches, I talk about, if
you're drafting in the first round, you can't miss, period.
You can't miss. So if you're drafting a project in
the first round because you think it's got talent and
boy you think it is a diamond in the rough,

(39:17):
I have to tell you right now in an organization,
if I'm leading anything, if you're drafting in the first round,
you are not allowed to miss. So whatever you come
back to the table with, whatever you do, it had
better be the highest percentage chance of hit. But if
you take it and you say I'm putting I'm putting
our fifty million dollars on twenty four black and you

(39:38):
spin that roulette wheel, all I'm saying is it better
hit twenty four black. And if you got a one
and thirty five chance of hitting, that ain't gonna be
good enough.

Speaker 8 (39:46):
No, that's right, you better be You better be black
or red.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
At a minimum, exactly.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
Wesley Snips and passenger of fifty seven always been on
Black's get back to the College of Worcester black and Gold.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I'm there you go, of course, yes, that black and gold.
I know you loved wearing those colors, right, We still do, man.

Speaker 7 (40:07):
We still got them own final Columbus Ohio or black
and Gold. My kids wear it now.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
It is good stuff, fantastic. I love it all.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Right, catch us up in terms of what does your
fall look like as we're getting so close to college
football starting, and obviously NFL Tree season has started. I mean,
will you go to various places in terms of still,
you know, talking with the coaches and actually go in
person mid season for some of these organizations and teams

(40:35):
that you work with.

Speaker 7 (40:37):
Yeah, I fly. I fly down to the camp Sunday.
I'll be down to camp for two days. Fly some
day to Tuesday. I'll be out of the camp. I'll
be out at at least one other camp, maybe two
other camps. And then I've got coaches and teams that
I work with all through the season and it varies, right.
I help coaches with weekly messaging. I help coach is

(41:00):
with certain media messaging, not from like a you know, hey,
you spoke too fast or spoke too slow. But you know,
how do we interact with the media to help to
help send messages to teams, the help coaches resolve issues
that pop up in the midst of the season, right
with different personnel things or staff elements, or hey, we

(41:20):
want a game, We want a few big games, and boy,
I do not want us to come flying back down
to Earth on a game we should win or vice versa. Right,
we kind of got our teeth kicked in and I
need to keep us on the straight and narrow so
that we keep competing despite the fact that our bigger
goals may be off the table.

Speaker 8 (41:38):
It's all the fun stuff.

Speaker 7 (41:39):
And at the end of the day, this is what
I love because this is where we're helping young guys
go figure out how to compete at.

Speaker 8 (41:44):
Really high levels over and over and over.

Speaker 7 (41:47):
Again across the twelve or longer game season. And that's
that's the reality, right The off season is the preparation.
This is the moment when it needs to click and
when it needs to happen. And this is I'm not
trying to help. I'm not trying to help guys. Uh,
you know, be the best at working out. Right, that's
back the old Kenny Powers CrossFit comment. Right, I am
trying to be the best at working out. We're trying

(42:07):
to win games, and we're trying to help guys go
build value for themselves to go accomplish what they want
to accomplish in college and after college.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yeah, I love it, Brian Kite. As we're wrapping up
is our guest. You can check out Daily Discipline dot com.
Sign up for the newsletter, very insightful each weekday that's
sent to your inbox right there, and then real quick BK.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
Catches up on Zone one dot coach.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
What's the latest updates?

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Man.

Speaker 8 (42:35):
We've we've added a bunch of We've added a bunch
of new.

Speaker 7 (42:37):
Stuff into Zone one and it is it is.

Speaker 8 (42:42):
We've added rosters.

Speaker 7 (42:43):
Here's one of the really cool things that we've done
is I don't think we had this last week. We
added now when when, And just for you guys to
know that what's possible out in the world is you
can now record a voice you can voice note record
like a journal entry or a meeting, and then Zone
one will listen to your journal and your meeting and

(43:04):
then it'll read the transcripts. Then it will take any
names that it hears with the roster and the staff that.

Speaker 8 (43:09):
You uploaded, and it will attach.

Speaker 7 (43:11):
The comments from the journal or the meeting onto that
person's profile, so that when you say to a note
about your team, or you're watching film and you drop
all the notes around. Hey, man, I saw Rich he
was a pulling guard. Love his depth, but I need
a harder strike and man, I wish everybody hustled like him.
It'll hear that automatically and then attach it to your profile.
So if I ever go click on your name, I

(43:33):
can lead the comments that I've made about you over
the course of your career, and I can create reports
based on your strengths your weaknesses around how to help
you develop, and it does it hands free. So it is.

Speaker 8 (43:44):
It is genuinely changing the game right now.

Speaker 6 (43:46):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
So my only request is can you make me a
wide receiver instead of a pulling guard.

Speaker 7 (43:52):
I mean, listen, if you get your feet quick enough
at that pulling guard spot, we'll stretch you out.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Okay, We'll start.

Speaker 7 (43:58):
With a tackle guard eligible and then we'll work our
with up you catch the pass, will throw it.

Speaker 8 (44:02):
To you again.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
Yeah, there we go. I love it.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
I've got good hands be kate. All right, great, hey brother,
greatly appreciate it. You got to stay safe and hopefully
the cleanup but goes smooth. I know it's going to
be all hands on deck for that entire community up there.
But glad you guys are safe.

Speaker 7 (44:16):
Brother, Thank you man.

Speaker 6 (44:18):
Yes, have a great weekend.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
And that is Brian Kite, coach to the coaches and
author of Dailydiscipline dot com, the Daily Discipline newsletter. Make
sure you sign up for that, delivered to your inbox
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Speaker 6 (44:32):
Very insightful stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
All right, we got to hit this break as we'll
continue this Friday edition Other Richmond Weaver Show presented by
Ingles Markets right here on one oh four nine Fox
Sports Upstate.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
Oh yeah, we're shouting it out loud.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Here on this Friday edition Other Richmond Weaver Show presented
by Ingles Markets, right here on one O four nine
Fox Sports Upstate. We have moved through the first hour,
and we appreciate Brian Kite joining us as he does
each week, and it has been landing on Fridays over the
past several weeks, so it's worked out well. We might
switch a little bit as we get into football season,

(45:06):
because I know we'll need to be doing an extensive
preview of the upcoming games for the weekend.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Things of that natures.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yes, some other guests to talk about some of the
big games for that particular weekend, and so definitely looking
to fill up the calendar, so to speak, in terms
of once the games actually start, starts meaning or I
should say we.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
Have meaningful games. Yes, that's a better way to put it.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
And speaking of games, we come back here in hour two,
I want to talk about we didn't get to it yesterday,
but I want to talk about some of the games
in college football that I have already been circling and
looking at what those type of matchups will be. Now
this is also it's August fourteenth, right, so some of

(46:02):
the matchups by the time they actually get to that
part of the calendar, there might be some teams that
it's not as attractive as we thought at the beginning
of the season, because we do know there's going to
be some teams that do not.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
Live up to some of the expectations.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
It happens every year.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Hello Clemson, Hello's South Carolina. Last year, I mean both
both schools, and so I think both schools are in
the same position. But we'll talk about that and much more,
and you can join the conversation eight six four two
four zero five four eight zero hour two of the
Richmond Weavers Show presented by Ingles Markets, Coming up right
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