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next week when we will go heavy into preview mode.
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Got Eric McLane lined up from ESPN and ACC Network.
So we'll talk acc football. We'll also talk college football.
Got some I got some things I'm working on for
next week and SEC of course with South Carolina, and
even some interesting thoughts from Todd mcshae that I heard
him talking about Leonora Sellers.
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Yes, okay, we'll be talking about that. And I have.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
A sports PSA coming up in the next segment for
college football, the powers that be in college football. Okay,
in relation the international games, my PSA College Football International Games.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We'll talk more about that.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
But I did want to talk about the father of
twenty four hour sports, Bill Resmussen, who is at ninety three,
and the news broke just a little while ago that
he passed away at the age of ninety three. And
this is the guy who built modern sports programming, the
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twenty four hour Sports Network ESPN. It was his brainchild.
He had basically nine grand and gambled on this entity
that he was going to try to build. And I
mean it's absolutely insane. Yeah, just in terms of when
you're thinking about it, nineteen seventy nine, the audacity that
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somebody would think that, oh, yeah, we need sports twenty
four to seven. I mean, now it's almost like, well
of course, yes, we need sports twenty four to seven.
We need some type of programming, some type of platform
that allows us to do that. But that nine thousand
dollars that was also I mean he maxed out his
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credit card advance. It was a credit card advance of
nine grand to start this. What a camp, a huge gamble,
and of course it would go on to basically create
what we have now. And I just think there's something
in terms of when you're looking at the founder of
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ESPN and if you're listening watching any type of sports
programming today, I mean you trace things back to that
very beginning. Now, yes, there was a you know, sports
talk radio, there was some programming that was out there, sure,
but I also think that this lent itself to really
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change the sports landscape because before that, I mean you
basically had CBS, NBC, ABC and that was it, and
that was where you got your sports, the network coverage,
whatever it might be. And from a news perspective, oh yep,
six o'clock news and eleven o'clock news, and you'd wait
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for you know, the eight to ten minute sports section
that would come on. And I say section, it sounds
like I'm talking about a newspaper, but the sports portion
of the news segment for whatever, you know. I mean
I remember it was like thirty minute news show. So
again you might have six seven minutes of sports content
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and I hope they talk about your team, you hoped
exactly what a Dallas Cowboys fan of Pittsburgh Steelers fan
or a forty nine Ers fan to forget it, yes, yes,
not even close. And so for him to have the
wherewithal and I don't even know, there's no way he
had a vision that he could sense it would come
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to what we see it is now, because I mean
there was an aspect that seemed like sports was just
a weekend hobby for television, and that was it. I
mean again talking about like the NBA, the NBA Championship,
the Finals, I mean it was on tape delay. I
mean so yes, before Magic Johnson and Larry Bird really
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was the catapult, the catalyst so to speak for the NBA. Yeah,
I mean you had your NBA Finals on tape delay.
I mean, now you're thinking that's it's absurd, absurd. I
mean we might think tape delay. Oh yeah, I'm on
DVR the game and I'll watch it later. Exactly as
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we know Chad is a big believer in that, but
my goodness, are you crazy? And just to think that
at the time, he's forty six years old and he's
the public's relations guy for the Hartford Whalers of the
Old Hockey Association, not even part of the NHL at
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the time, and he gets fired from that position and
again takes the nine thousand dollars cash advance on a
credit card and basically says.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Hey, you know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I'm going to go create a twenty four hour network
that broadcast sports and only sports around the clock. Who's
coming with me?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And here we are? And I just think that.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Us as sports fans, I mean, you have to understand
the impact because there's so many people that they don't
know any difference.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, as far.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
As what the world was before ESPN, and even in
nineteen seventy nine when ESPN started, I didn't know about
DESPN until a little bit later once we got cable
and then you had access to ESPN, and that was,
you know, a completely different way of thinking in terms of, oh,
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my goodness, any time I turned this channel on, there's
going to be some sports don't know what it's going
to be, but there's gonna be some type of sports.
And then, of course when you have everything that plays
out with Sports Center, and then that's your one stop
shop for news and everything centered around sports, and you
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could just sit there and watch the channel all day long,
basically even if you weren't even interested, because you were
almost so fascinated that there's there's more sports coming on
or there's you know, I'd watch Sports Center over and
over again, like I've already seen it three times, and
I'd watch it again because they would play it so
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many different times. But isn't it just crazy how one
little idea and look what has turned into today?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Absolutely, And you know, I I can't imagine he he
thought it would become what it is today, Like you know,
it's it's hard to believe. Again, I wasn't there from
the from the you know, conceptionception, conception, conception, whatever, casey
conception on.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Uh yeah, there you go. I wasn't there for that.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
But I imagine it's probably radically different today what you
see on ESPN compared to obviously where it started. But
I do think, you know, he's he looked at it
and he saw a void that people were hungry for sports,
exactly to your point. You had to wait around and
you got just this little hit of it. He probably
looked at that, and he I would imagine he's probably
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a man himself that's looking at it, going, I really want.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Some more sports. Why are we not covering sports more?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
And then goes, well, if I want it, and I've
got friends that want it, there's probably more out there.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I could do this.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I've got the capital, I've got the connection. I think
I could make this happen. And sure enough he filled
a void that needed filling, and the rest is history.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yes, and just for I remember also just waiting for
the next day for the newspaper just so you could
get I could get more sports content. Yeah, because the
news coverage typically didn't cover enough of And also I
wasn't staying up past you know, eleven o'clock or earlier
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and six o'clock. Gosh, I can't even remember if I
even watched the news or much sports. I do remember
it was more about getting the content from the newspaper
the next day, and that anticipation of you know, making
sure to get the newspaper and even getting the USA today.
I remember that and then sometimes where I would go
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each morning before school that if they didn't have it, like,
how do you not have it today?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Now? How's this sold out?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You know, fresh shot exactly, And so you had to
rely on maybe some of your friends giving you some
of the content there and trust it. But on September seventh,
nineteen seventy nine, there in Bristol, Connecticut, ESPN hit the
airwaves and things have changed significantly since then. And think
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about this too, just from a college basketball guy, we
wouldn't have March Madness if it wasn't for Bill Resmusen,
we would not. Yeah, when he started ESPN because then
at that time, it was okay, we need a bunch
of content, we need live sports. Ultimately that's what he
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wanted to do. He wanted to have live sports there
at ESPN. So there before ESPN was founded, they didn't
air the first and second round games of the NCAA tournament.
It wasn't until the final four in the championship game.
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So they're nineteen eighty, they're needing content, and so he
took the NCAA tournament first and second round games, put
it on ESPN, and then at that point it became
appointment viewing there the Thursday start of the NCAA tournament,
and especially once they expanded it in nineteen eighty five,
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then you had those midday games going on. I mean,
they became almost a cultural phenomenon in terms of how
much people had.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
An appetite for that.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And so that was the precursor to where we are
now in terms of now we see every game that
is broadcast in the NCAA Tournament. We've got what CBS, TVs, TNT,
True TV, I mean, so it's all over, you know,
the networks. And then of course the ESPN has been
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intimately involved. But there's one of those things where I think,
even more so than the live sports it was Sports
Center and the personalities that came along with Sports Center
from Chris Berman, Stuart Scott, Dan Patrick, you know, Bob Lee,
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Rich Eyes and Stuart Scott Van Pelt, you know Mike Greenberg.
You know all of these names, and I'm leaving out
a ton of names there. There's been so many, but
that almost seemed to be another reason why you watch
Sports Center, were the personalities and again almost getting to
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know them on somewhat of a personal level just based
on watching Sports Center and getting your news from them.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Right, I mean, I mean it's no different than your
local news. You get attached to an anchor totally. You
trust them, you believe what they say. They come on,
you see them, and this is just that, but heavily
niche down to sports, exclusively sports, and I do have
I don't know if you remember we pulled this. I
think last year we did like an on this Day
or something. I have the ESPN debut like where you know,
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like the first like the audio of it.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, you have it up right now? Yeah, yeah, I
don't delete anything. Oh see, producer extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
All right, let's play the clip just for Bill Rasmussen
in honor of his legacy, as he's passed away at
ninety three today, So please play that.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
If you're a fan, what you'll see in the next minutes, hours,
and days to follow may convince you you've gone to
sports heaven. Beyond that blue horizon is a limitless world
of sports, and right now you're standing on the edge
of tomorrow. Sports twenty four hours a day, seven days
a week with ESPN, the total sports cable work.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Who flash for the past fantastic?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Is that not the epitome of nineteen seventy nine at
the end it exactly my goodness, who would have ever
thought that that would have led to where we are now?
And again, I think that ESPN proved that cable networks
could survive on a single genre. And did ESPN did
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it not pave the way for CNN, MTV, Oh, yeah,
the SEC network, Big ten, big ten network, ACC network,
whatever you want to say. I mean it was ESPN
that laid the groundwork, and it was Bill Rasmussen that
that did it.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Well, I mean, of course he had help, but it
was his idea and his gamble, his.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Aversion to risk. He didn't care, right like, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Okay, here's here's my nine grand cash advance on my
credit card. I'm gonna go buy pay that one off. Yeah,
I'm going to go buy this satellite and we're gonna
air sports twenty four to seven. It's crazy to think
about nineteen seventy nine that you just didn't think like that.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
And even further, I would even argue that it kind
of paved the way towards what we see now podcasts.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Knowing that you.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Could you could create your own obviously you had to
get to a point where we have the technology that
you can put it out there.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
You know, you can produce your own thing.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But if there was no ESPN, I wonder if people
are creating their own podcast talking about literally anything. I mean,
it's a proof of concept that you can find a niche,
you could find an audience. As long as you get
it out there. Yes, as long as you get built it,
they will come.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
And you know, when I started Rich Take on Sports
in twenty seventeen and the subsequently other podcasts that I did, yeah,
with college basketball and of course so con Fast Break,
I've been asked several times and people from people who
are interested in starting their own podcast. Yeah, asking you know,
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my advice, because you know, I've done well over five
hundred episodes and you know, throughout all of the different podcasts,
et cetera. And they've asked for advice. And the number
one thing that I tell them is just press record. Yep,
just start. I promise you You're probably not gonna like
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the first one you ever do. Yep, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You just have to do it. Just be Nike. Just
do it.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Just press record, get it out there and you will
find your lane.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Just be consistent. But you you.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Can't get to a point of, say your fiftieth episode
if you don't do your first episode. And how many
times I say that just in terms of you can't
win a super Bowl or college football national championship unless
you get into the playoffs, and so there is that
moment where you have to be able to just not
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be afraid and press record, because it can be daunting
just in terms of getting your own voice out there,
your own content. But in the same way here Bill
Rasmussen had to be like, Okay, I don't know, we're
going to try it out, and he wasn't afraid to
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almost press record, so to speak. And I think there's
some true value to that, and of course there's again
paving the way and just you know, what he's been
able to do is mind boggling in so many different levels.
And that's why I want to hear from some of
the listeners out there, what's your memories of esp in
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Sports Center and what is meant to you? Because I
do think this is something that again we all can appreciate,
And of course I know we can be frustrated with
ESPN right now.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It's not how it used to be.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I get that out but it's still a spot that
we land on pretty consistently.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You'll go to ESPN. You just do give us a call.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
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Speaker 2 (20:16):
Five four eight zero. Again that numbers eight six.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Four two four zero five four eight zero, and I
think we did have a caller that was on hold.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
But decided not to join.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
We revealed right this moment, But if you want to
call in now that we've gotten through the break, you
can do that again. It's eight six four two four
zero five four eight zero. Because we've been talking about
ESPN and the legacy built by Bill Rasmussen, who is
just announced that the age of ninety three has passed
away and he was the founder of ESPN twenty four
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to seven sports station, cable station.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Whatever you want to say.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
And I just think just from a perspective as far
as what I've read and what people have been talking about,
I mean, he was the eternal optimist type of guy
I think you almost have to be to build something
like that. Yeah, been at forty six years old?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah right. I mean, is that like, all right, I've
got a midlife crisis.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Instead of buying a corvette, I'm going to start a
twenty four to seven sports channel.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I'm Sure's why I probably felt the exact same way,
whether it's a corvette.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Or a sports channel. Yes, are you kidding me? And
had to be just an underdog entrepreneur type of mindset.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah right.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
But then ultimately, I wonder, can we say even a true.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Pioneer though, yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I think you have to be able to label him
as a true pioneer.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
So, of course.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Are condolences to the Resmusen family. But at ninety three,
he's lived a fantastic life. Because think about it, though,
as we all get caught up in terms of, oh,
I want to be doing things, you know, if you're
looking at it from a professional career standpoint, because I'm
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I'm sensing this with my kids right now that twenty six,
twenty four, and twenty two and now out in the workforce.
It's now other than Ryan, my oldest one, who just
started pitt Law School this week, first week of classes
there at University of Pittsburgh at law school. But there's
this thought, and especially with the microwave mentality, that Okay,
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I need to be doing more at a younger age.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I need to have it all figured out. I need
to have my career.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It's exactly, I need to have everything all wrapped up done.
And why am I not getting these promotions, Why am
I not getting to this level financially? You know all
of those things. And here's Bill Rasmussen at the age
of forty six and gets fired and says, you know what,
all right, well, maybe this is my path, this is
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what I needed to have happened, right, and I'm going
to go start this this channel because you know, he's
probably he was probably thinking about it, you know, before that,
and what I've read that he had actually been working
on that for a couple of years, just the idea
and had explored even buying you know, a TV tower
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or you know, antenna or whatever, but the costs and
everything were just so expensive relative to this satellite that
he get. And I'm like, who even things to buy
satellite in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
So for him to be in that position that, I mean,
he's almost fifty years old and then really starts his
career when you think about it, and I think that's admirable.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, I mean there's something to be said about comfort, right,
Like comfort is great, but it also leads to, you know,
complacency in the sense that I'm sure he probably was
thinking about this idea.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
He's probably exploring it.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Had he not been fired and taken out of his
comfort zone, Who's to say he ever would have explored it.
You know, it took something like that to push him
and go, well, because I mean you look at it
and go, yeah, you know, I could start this like
it seems like a good idea, but man, I'm you know,
do I risk all of this right now? Like my
family's good, Like I'm good, this is good money what
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I'm doing, Like I'm comfortable. We're in a good place
right now. And then you get fired and go, yes, well,
I don't know what else I want to do.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I got to figure this out. Yeah, well how about
that idea that I y But don't you think most
people would be Okay, well I'm a public relations person,
all right, let me go find another job in pr.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Oh yeah, most people would yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
And he decided not to, and there you go, and
I can empathy to a certain degree with him, just
in terms of I left coaching then got into med
device sales that had a successful career there just didn't
it just didn't feel the void of wanting to still
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be in sports and just miss that. And so then
when I started the podcast, it gave me a little
sense of that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And then it was almost the same thing.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
This was right after COVID and you know, now I'm
a national sales director for this startup med device company
and I get fired. And it was like that moment
that I remember telling people several times, almost like in
a joking manner, well my real job gets in the
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way of what I really want to do. And then
I think it was almost God punching me in the nose, saying,
all right, you're not going to go pursue what you
want to do.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, okay, I'm gonna take the job away from you
right now. Go do it.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, now, go do it. And so I remember distinctly
sitting there looking out the window and saying, Okay, I
hear you. God, I don't know what this looks like,
but I'm going all in on sports media. Here we go,
and here we are now, you know, seven eight years later,
and I'm wanting people to call into Weaverville. Yeah again
eight six four two four zero five four eight zero.
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So again I can relate to a certain degree, but
not to the degree he started a channel, I mean
massive and in nineteen seventy nine. Yeah, that was unheard of.
That's the point.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
But isn't that.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Just the definition and in that just what also just
makes America great? And just human ingenuity, human determination, you know,
all of that that he decided. Okay, I don't care.
Could be a failure, whatever it might be, but at
least I'm going to try. And sure enough he tried,
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and look out it's worked out.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
History. It is history. That's my point.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
That's why I don't know if you have a moment
or any of those special moments from ESPN, are your
first memories of ESPN, and give us a call eight
six four two four zero five four eight zero. Again,
that number is eight sixty four two four zero five
four eight zero. Okay, sports PSA though, Okay, I've got
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to get to my sports PSA because I don't know
if you've heard the news that Roger Goodell has come
out and he has said it's inevitable there is going
to be a team in the NFL that is going
to be permanently located in Europe.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
That's happening. Yeah, that is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
And Roger Goodell is saying it, quote unquote no doubt.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I mean building the road map.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
It's pretty clear, yes, that he's been saying it for
a while and he says, quote at some point there
will be NFL teams outside the U s A. I
have no doubt that this will happen one day. End
quote teams plural.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Oh yeah, he did say teams. Hmm. I think you
have to so get ready and it's and it. So
the point is is that.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
From an NFL standpoint, yeah, it's probably not something that
I feel needs.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
To happen, right, But I understand it, Okay. I I
think it has to be multiple teams. You can't just
do one.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
That's I think that. Yeah, I think there's probably some
validity to that too. But what I want to talk
about is what we're hearing from the narrative about these
international games and in college how it's a scam okay,
because we're being lied to basically. Is My point is that, Okay,
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we've held this belief that college football needs to grow
the game, just like the NFL, and one of the
ways to do it is overseas. And now I get
it from an international standpoint expansion situation for the NFL,
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I do, But for college athletics and especially college football,
I just don't know if I'm believing in it. And
that's why I do believe it's a scam in terms
of when they say this will help grow the game,
and I'm not certain this is the way, the pathway
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that you're going to grow the game the best in
terms of you're removing what we love about college football,
the campus environment and the cultural phenomenon. As we were
talking about ESPN and moving it across a pond or
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wherever it might be.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
You could go to Mexico.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I get that, but I just don't know if we're
in that situation where we should be playing regular season
college football games on foreign seoul. And now again, I
know you've got these opportunities neutral site game in Dublin, London, Frankfort,
wherever it might be. But just because you think you're
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expanding the global footprint, I don't know if you're actually
growing the brand of college football. And that's why I
do think it's a scam, because it's all just a
cash grab disguised as a vision that, oh, we can
do this with college athletics. And I've probably been thinking
about this for a couple of years now, especially as
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we're getting ready to start another season and guess what,
we have a game in Dublin and we know that
even oh, Notre Dame is going.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
To go play in Ireland. How cool is that?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Okay, Conceptually, I get it because just the fighting Irish.
I do understand that, But I just don't think that
when you're in a situation that you're having these powers
that be that are making these decisions push this narrative
to normalize games thousands of miles away from campus. Tells
(31:36):
me that maybe they've got other motives in play, and
I think it's money. When we don't know the exact answer,
it definitely comes back to money. So again, when you're
looking at it from a perspective with the NFL, and
we've seen it, there's no doubt the NFL as powerful
(31:59):
it is in America, it is becoming a global entertainment conglomerate.
We do know that, and it's built on star power
of course, fantasy football and some of the greatest athletes
we've seen in that particular sport. College football, though, I
think it's much more of a situation where again, it's
(32:22):
the pageantry of being on campus. It's the opportunity of
tailgating on one of those crisp falls Saturday mornings or
Saturday afternoons. It's the eighty thousand people there at a
stadium singing the alma mater.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's the marching band.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
It's all of those things that are centered around It's
the student section jumping up and down, shaking the stadium. Basically,
it's those moments that are part of college football, and
you're trying to yank it out of its natural habitat
and send it to a soccer stadium five time zones away.
(33:06):
I just don't know if that's what you're wanting to do.
In terms of the soul of the sport. It needs
to be played on campus. And I'm even a big proponent.
How many neutral site games do we need in college football?
We need them on campuses. We need it where you
have the local community. And when you rip a game
(33:30):
away from the local community and the opportunity of the
ticket sales there seeing your team in its home environment,
it just takes away from what I feel one of
the reasons why we love college football and how we
differentiate it from the NFL, and how many times that
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we've been talking about we don't want college football to
follow the same path as the NFL. We want them
to look a little bit different. Well, this way right here,
I don't know if this is the right way. I
would be more inclined that you grab a bunch of
fans from Europe and.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Bring them over and let them experience. Sure. Yeah, the
pageantry of college football on.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Campuses, I think at its very core when we talk
about college football, I think you're talking about connection. I
think that's the biggest thing there that separates college football
from the NFL. Now, obviously the NFL, you have a
connection to the city, but it's different. You're a fan
of this school, presumably because you or your family went
(34:40):
to that school. There's a different level of intimacy when
it comes to college football that I feel like is
being stripped.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Out for money.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
What you're talking about, it's being sold for parks. We're
sending off overseas because oh that would be cool. But
you forget the thing that makes college football truly special
is the community. Is the fans coming together in their
own environment and their own town and their own city.
Their their families went there, they went there. There's a
there's a history there that you can't even with as
(35:11):
a Dallas Cowboys fan. However that came about, whether it
was seeing it as a kid or maybe your your family,
however that comes about. It's still totally and radically different
from Clemson because you walk those halls, you went there,
you sang that alma mater, that was part of your
history because Rismond Weaver and you can't replicate that. And
(35:32):
that's also why I look at it when you take
it overseas, I don't think it will ever mean as
much to somebody living in Ireland with Notre Dame because
they didn't walk those halls. Yeah, they can get on
board with you know, any of the NFL teams.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Sure that's right.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
And I also know that not every fan of a
university went there. Sure I know that, yes, And but
they have this other type of connection. Maybe they've been
to the games, or again it's friends that have been there,
or their parents went there, exactly, some type of connection
(36:09):
they live in the area, whatever it might be. And
of course I think there is a difference here in
the Southeast, and we all know just from a perspective
of not talking about SEC football. I'm just talking about
football in the Southeast region. It is college football, is it,
and more so than pro of course, there's a lot
(36:32):
of pro fans out there, and you could look at
the Northeast, it's probably more geared towards professional sports the
NFL than it is in college. But I just think,
you know, in terms of you know, sending some of
these games over there, and some of the brands that
(36:52):
were sending I just don't know if you're capturing everything
that is beautiful about college football and you can't pick
up Ohio State and Michigan and take them over there
and it's going to be the same type of environment,
same type of game. You can't pick up the Palmetto
(37:13):
Bowl and take Clemson in South Carolina over to London
and it's going to have the same type of pageantry, Right,
You just can't. Where the NFL, I think to a
certain degree, you can. I mean, now we've become much
more I guess, in touch with other countries and how
(37:36):
they utilize and how they experience sports. Oh yeah, because
now we have access to so much more information, so
much more content. It's easier to travel all of these things.
So I get that. So it does lend itself, you know,
from that standpoint. But I just think there's something about
(37:57):
I mean, being at Death Valley, being at the Swamp,
being at you know, the Horseshoe, being at Willie b Yeah,
I mean, can you imagine I mean if some of
those fans over in Europe came and experienced a night
game at Williams. Brice Stadium when it is I mean
(38:21):
going electric.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Are you crazy?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
And we think that just by sending say like North
Carolina and TCU overseas, that that is that's what we're
sending over. I mean, if we're going to do it,
let's send over. I mean teams that are going to
be in contention for a national championship, a conference championship
(38:49):
at minimum something, right, I mean, my goodness, at least
put together something that is more powerful from an excitement standpoint.
But even with that said, I think I am fully
completely out on the international games.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I'm out. I'll watch, though, I will.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
I mean, I'm not going to sit here and try
to stand on a principle that I will not watch
because it's an international game.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
No, I'll watch. I'm just out on it. I just
don't like it.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I want them to play there at the home sites,
at the home field. I want the pageantry of college
football and everything that's centered around it. Okay, I don't know,
Maybe I'm maybe I'm out of touch, maybe i'm you know,
in a minority here, but I'm completely out on the
international games.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
But once it's on TV.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, I'll watch because it's college football it is.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, you want to see him play. I want to
see I want to see college football. Yeah, I just
don't want to see it played internationally. All right, let
me know your thought.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
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Speaker 2 (40:35):
And we did have.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Texter sixty seven thirty eight chiming in on the text
line saying, being from Texas, I want to know when
high school is going overseas and he laughs or she laughs. Yes,
we know high school football is big in Texas and
they spend some money over there with high school football.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
So hey telling to you you.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Watch out, But the Texter continues saying, but really, college,
who's paying the airfare, who's paying the hotel.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
The band for all of this to go over there?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Trainer's meals what if someone gets in trouble? It's just
not profitable for the ones that are seeing all the signs.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yeah, the dollar signs. Yeah. I mean again, these are
expensive trips. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
And there's no doubt that from the exposure standpoint, these
schools probably see the dollar signs. And in terms of
it's marketing that you're not paying for, I get that,
and so there is something to be said about, hey,
you can't put a price tag on that in terms
of how much marketing it could cost or whatever. But
(41:47):
there's also you know, how much ever they're being paid,
is that another revenue generator for them? Because of where
we are in the NIL world and those things, And
that just leads me back to, well, see there we
are once again. It's not fair for everybody. Then, so
(42:09):
why are these schools getting the opportunity of earning money
that way and not every other school has that opportunity.
And that's why it's a mockery when we try to
put every school and every sport into one box and
say that everybody should be the same. It's just not
and it hasn't been that way for a long time.
(42:30):
So I just think the international games in college they're out.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I'm out on them. I'll still watch them, though, I
just don't think it behooves And I just don't want
to hear.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Don't try to tell me, Oh, it's to grow the
game globally. No, I don't want to hear that exactly now. NFL,
I think they are having a true intentional effort to
grow the game globally way. But the NFL is built
(43:03):
to be grown right globally. It just is because there's
one entity. Everybody plays by the same rules, all of that.
So I just think there's something different about the NFL
versus college. And we did have Texter eighty six ninety
four chiming in about the situation where Roger Goodell is
(43:23):
talking about that there's going to be teams going to
Europe or at least international. I should say it might
not be Europe, but as he's quoted again in a
recent interview with a German media outlet saying, quote, at
some point there will be NFL teams outside the USA.
I have no doubt that this will happen one day.
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End quote.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
So it's it's definitely going to happen.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
But Texter eighty six ninety four says, how about this
European slash Asian division with four teams London, Germany, China,
and maybe add in and all Australian team and then
an America's division with teams in Canada, Mexico and Brazil.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Question mark? And then where else would be optimal? Question mark? Hmmm, China.
I don't think I do. Australia Australia time difference fighteen hours,
that's a that's a tough one. Australia would be tough.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Europe makes complete sense, Mexico would make complete sense.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
And I mean, of course, Canada we already do it.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
I mean NFL, not in the NFL, but yes in
other sports, yeah we do.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I mean, so that makes complete sense.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
But what I think Roger Goodell is talking about when
he's saying international, I don't think he's meaning just directly
Canada or Mexico. I think he's truly talking about Germany,
talking about England, talking about those countries there. I think
he has broader visions of that, and I do agree
(45:06):
with you though, though it's not just going to be
one solo team out in Germany and that's it. This
could be a situation where you could have four teams,
like in Europe somewhere.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
It'd be like the European Division or whatever.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yes, exactly, So, I mean what the text right here
is describing the European Division have four teams there? Have
one in London, have one in Germany, if you have
one in Spain, one in Rome, whatever it might be,
and there's your four European Division teams.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
I think it's the only way that makes sense. Because
you put one and then it won. It fractures everything,
but it does. A team's got to travel every week
across the pond. It just doesn't make sense, that's right.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
That's why you've got to have teams that can travel
within their area, you know, within Europe.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Face them twice a year, just like every yere Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
So instead of third two teams, we go to thirty
six teams.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Man, that feels weird? Does that feel weird? Yeah? Just
say inevitable, but yeah, yeah, I think it's inevitable.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Also, And if Froderi Goodell's already saying it out loud.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Yeah, it's happening. You can bank on that. Okay.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
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Got Eric McLane lined up from ESPN and ACC Network.
So we'll talk acc football. We'll also talk college football.
Got some I got some things I'm working on for
next week and SEC of course with South Carolina, and
even some interesting thoughts from Todd mcshae that I heard
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Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yes, okay, we'll be talking about that. And I have.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
A sports PSA coming up in the next segment for
college football, the powers that be in college football. Okay,
in relation the international games, my PSA College Football International Games.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We'll talk more about that.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
But I did want to talk about the father of
twenty four hour sports, Bill Resmussen, who is at ninety three,
and the news broke just a little while ago that
he passed away at the age of ninety three. And
this is the guy who built modern sports programming, the
(03:29):
twenty four hour Sports Network ESPN. It was his brainchild.
He had basically nine grand and gambled on this entity
that he was going to try to build. And I
mean it's absolutely insane. Yeah, just in terms of when
you're thinking about it, nineteen seventy nine, the audacity that
(03:52):
somebody would think that, oh, yeah, we need sports twenty
four to seven. I mean, now it's almost like, well
of course, yes, we need sports twenty four to seven.
We need some type of programming, some type of platform
that allows us to do that. But that nine thousand
dollars that was also I mean he maxed out his
(04:12):
credit card advance. It was a credit card advance of
nine grand to start this. What a camp, a huge gamble,
and of course it would go on to basically create
what we have now. And I just think there's something
in terms of when you're looking at the founder of
(04:35):
ESPN and if you're listening watching any type of sports
programming today, I mean you trace things back to that
very beginning. Now, yes, there was a you know, sports
talk radio, there was some programming that was out there, sure,
but I also think that this lent itself to really
(04:58):
change the sports landscape because before that, I mean you
basically had CBS, NBC, ABC and that was it, and
that was where you got your sports, the network coverage,
whatever it might be. And from a news perspective, oh yep,
six o'clock news and eleven o'clock news, and you'd wait
(05:21):
for you know, the eight to ten minute sports section
that would come on. And I say section, it sounds
like I'm talking about a newspaper, but the sports portion
of the news segment for whatever, you know. I mean
I remember it was like thirty minute news show. So
again you might have six seven minutes of sports content
(05:42):
and I hope they talk about your team, you hoped
exactly what a Dallas Cowboys fan of Pittsburgh Steelers fan
or a forty nine Ers fan to forget it, yes, yes,
not even close. And so for him to have the
wherewithal and I don't even know, there's no way he
had a vision that he could sense it would come
(06:03):
to what we see it is now, because I mean
there was an aspect that seemed like sports was just
a weekend hobby for television, and that was it. I
mean again talking about like the NBA, the NBA Championship,
the Finals, I mean it was on tape delay. I
mean so yes, before Magic Johnson and Larry Bird really
(06:28):
was the catapult, the catalyst so to speak for the NBA. Yeah,
I mean you had your NBA Finals on tape delay.
I mean, now you're thinking that's it's absurd, absurd. I
mean we might think tape delay. Oh yeah, I'm on
DVR the game and I'll watch it later. Exactly as
(06:49):
we know Chad is a big believer in that, but
my goodness, are you crazy? And just to think that
at the time, he's forty six years old and he's
the public's relations guy for the Hartford Whalers of the
Old Hockey Association, not even part of the NHL at
(07:13):
the time, and he gets fired from that position and
again takes the nine thousand dollars cash advance on a
credit card and basically says.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Hey, you know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I'm going to go create a twenty four hour network
that broadcast sports and only sports around the clock. Who's
coming with me?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And here we are? And I just think that.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Us as sports fans, I mean, you have to understand
the impact because there's so many people that they don't
know any difference.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, as far.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
As what the world was before ESPN, and even in
nineteen seventy nine when ESPN started, I didn't know about
DESPN until a little bit later once we got cable
and then you had access to ESPN, and that was,
you know, a completely different way of thinking in terms of, oh,
(08:14):
my goodness, any time I turned this channel on, there's
going to be some sports don't know what it's going
to be, but there's gonna be some type of sports.
And then, of course when you have everything that plays
out with Sports Center, and then that's your one stop
shop for news and everything centered around sports, and you
(08:37):
could just sit there and watch the channel all day long,
basically even if you weren't even interested, because you were
almost so fascinated that there's there's more sports coming on
or there's you know, I'd watch Sports Center over and
over again, like I've already seen it three times, and
I'd watch it again because they would play it so
(08:57):
many different times. But isn't it just crazy how one
little idea and look what has turned into today?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Absolutely, And you know, I I can't imagine he he
thought it would become what it is today, Like you know,
it's it's hard to believe. Again, I wasn't there from
the from the you know, conceptionception, conception, conception, whatever, casey
conception on.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Uh yeah, there you go. I wasn't there for that.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
But I imagine it's probably radically different today what you
see on ESPN compared to obviously where it started. But
I do think, you know, he's he looked at it
and he saw a void that people were hungry for sports,
exactly to your point. You had to wait around and
you got just this little hit of it. He probably
looked at that, and he I would imagine he's probably
(09:47):
a man himself that's looking at it, going, I really want.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Some more sports. Why are we not covering sports more?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
And then goes, well, if I want it, and I've
got friends that want it, there's probably more out there.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I could do this.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I've got the capital, I've got the connection. I think
I could make this happen. And sure enough he filled
a void that needed filling, and the rest is history.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yes, and just for I remember also just waiting for
the next day for the newspaper just so you could
get I could get more sports content. Yeah, because the
news coverage typically didn't cover enough of And also I
wasn't staying up past you know, eleven o'clock or earlier
(10:29):
and six o'clock. Gosh, I can't even remember if I
even watched the news or much sports. I do remember
it was more about getting the content from the newspaper
the next day, and that anticipation of you know, making
sure to get the newspaper and even getting the USA today.
I remember that and then sometimes where I would go
(10:51):
each morning before school that if they didn't have it, like,
how do you not have it today?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Now? How's this sold out?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You know, fresh shot exactly, And so you had to
rely on maybe some of your friends giving you some
of the content there and trust it. But on September seventh,
nineteen seventy nine, there in Bristol, Connecticut, ESPN hit the
airwaves and things have changed significantly since then. And think
(11:22):
about this too, just from a college basketball guy, we
wouldn't have March Madness if it wasn't for Bill Resmusen,
we would not. Yeah, when he started ESPN because then
at that time, it was okay, we need a bunch
of content, we need live sports. Ultimately that's what he
(11:44):
wanted to do. He wanted to have live sports there
at ESPN. So there before ESPN was founded, they didn't
air the first and second round games of the NCAA tournament.
It wasn't until the final four in the championship game.
(12:06):
So they're nineteen eighty, they're needing content, and so he
took the NCAA tournament first and second round games, put
it on ESPN, and then at that point it became
appointment viewing there the Thursday start of the NCAA tournament,
and especially once they expanded it in nineteen eighty five,
(12:29):
then you had those midday games going on. I mean,
they became almost a cultural phenomenon in terms of how
much people had.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
An appetite for that.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And so that was the precursor to where we are
now in terms of now we see every game that
is broadcast in the NCAA Tournament. We've got what CBS, TVs, TNT,
True TV, I mean, so it's all over, you know,
the networks. And then of course the ESPN has been
(13:05):
intimately involved. But there's one of those things where I think,
even more so than the live sports it was Sports
Center and the personalities that came along with Sports Center
from Chris Berman, Stuart Scott, Dan Patrick, you know, Bob Lee,
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Rich Eyes and Stuart Scott Van Pelt, you know Mike Greenberg.
You know all of these names, and I'm leaving out
a ton of names there. There's been so many, but
that almost seemed to be another reason why you watch
Sports Center, were the personalities and again almost getting to
(13:50):
know them on somewhat of a personal level just based
on watching Sports Center and getting your news from them.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Right, I mean, I mean it's no different than your
local news. You get attached to an anchor totally. You
trust them, you believe what they say. They come on,
you see them, and this is just that, but heavily
niche down to sports, exclusively sports, and I do have
I don't know if you remember we pulled this. I
think last year we did like an on this Day
or something. I have the ESPN debut like where you know,
(14:18):
like the first like the audio of it.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, you have it up right now? Yeah, yeah, I
don't delete anything. Oh see, producer extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
All right, let's play the clip just for Bill Rasmussen
in honor of his legacy, as he's passed away at
ninety three today, So please play that.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
If you're a fan, what you'll see in the next minutes, hours,
and days to follow may convince you you've gone to
sports heaven. Beyond that blue horizon is a limitless world
of sports, and right now you're standing on the edge
of tomorrow. Sports twenty four hours a day, seven days
a week with ESPN, the total sports cable work.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Who flash for the past fantastic?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Is that not the epitome of nineteen seventy nine at
the end it exactly my goodness, who would have ever
thought that that would have led to where we are now?
And again, I think that ESPN proved that cable networks
could survive on a single genre. And did ESPN did
(15:41):
it not pave the way for CNN, MTV, Oh, yeah,
the SEC network, Big ten, big ten network, ACC network,
whatever you want to say. I mean it was ESPN
that laid the groundwork, and it was Bill Rasmussen that
that did it.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Well, I mean, of course he had help, but it
was his idea and his gamble, his.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Aversion to risk. He didn't care, right like, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Okay, here's here's my nine grand cash advance on my
credit card. I'm gonna go buy pay that one off. Yeah,
I'm going to go buy this satellite and we're gonna
air sports twenty four to seven. It's crazy to think
about nineteen seventy nine that you just didn't think like that.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
And even further, I would even argue that it kind
of paved the way towards what we see now podcasts.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Knowing that you.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Could you could create your own obviously you had to
get to a point where we have the technology that
you can put it out there.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
You know, you can produce your own thing.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But if there was no ESPN, I wonder if people
are creating their own podcast talking about literally anything. I mean,
it's a proof of concept that you can find a niche,
you could find an audience. As long as you get
it out there. Yes, as long as you get built it,
they will come.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
And you know, when I started Rich Take on Sports
in twenty seventeen and the subsequently other podcasts that I did, yeah,
with college basketball and of course so con Fast Break,
I've been asked several times and people from people who
are interested in starting their own podcast. Yeah, asking you know,
(17:18):
my advice, because you know, I've done well over five
hundred episodes and you know, throughout all of the different podcasts,
et cetera. And they've asked for advice. And the number
one thing that I tell them is just press record. Yep,
just start. I promise you You're probably not gonna like
(17:41):
the first one you ever do. Yep, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You just have to do it. Just be Nike. Just
do it.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Just press record, get it out there and you will
find your lane.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Just be consistent. But you you.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Can't get to a point of, say your fiftieth episode
if you don't do your first episode. And how many
times I say that just in terms of you can't
win a super Bowl or college football national championship unless
you get into the playoffs, and so there is that
moment where you have to be able to just not
(18:16):
be afraid and press record, because it can be daunting
just in terms of getting your own voice out there,
your own content. But in the same way here Bill
Rasmussen had to be like, Okay, I don't know, we're
going to try it out, and he wasn't afraid to
(18:37):
almost press record, so to speak. And I think there's
some true value to that, and of course there's again
paving the way and just you know, what he's been
able to do is mind boggling in so many different levels.
And that's why I want to hear from some of
the listeners out there, what's your memories of esp in
(19:00):
Sports Center and what is meant to you? Because I
do think this is something that again we all can appreciate,
And of course I know we can be frustrated with
ESPN right now.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It's not how it used to be.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I get that out but it's still a spot that
we land on pretty consistently.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You'll go to ESPN. You just do give us a call.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Join Weaverville eight six y four two four zero five
four eight zero, and let's head out to the Ingles
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yes they went and go watch ESPN. Yes, there we go. Hey,
you can call right back in. We're going to hit
this break because we do need to hit the brake,
and so caller us, I think that you just called
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Tuesday edition of the Richmond Weavers Show, presented by our
good friends at Ingles Markets, and you can join the
conversation eight six four two four zero.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Five four eight zero. Again that numbers eight six.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Four two four zero five four eight zero, and I
think we did have a caller that was on hold.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
But decided not to join.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
We revealed right this moment, But if you want to
call in now that we've gotten through the break, you
can do that again. It's eight six four two four
zero five four eight zero. Because we've been talking about
ESPN and the legacy built by Bill Rasmussen, who is
just announced that the age of ninety three has passed
away and he was the founder of ESPN twenty four
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to seven sports station, cable station.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Whatever you want to say.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
And I just think just from a perspective as far
as what I've read and what people have been talking about,
I mean, he was the eternal optimist type of guy
I think you almost have to be to build something
like that. Yeah, been at forty six years old?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah right. I mean, is that like, all right, I've
got a midlife crisis.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Instead of buying a corvette, I'm going to start a
twenty four to seven sports channel.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I'm Sure's why I probably felt the exact same way,
whether it's a corvette.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Or a sports channel. Yes, are you kidding me? And
had to be just an underdog entrepreneur type of mindset.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah right.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
But then ultimately, I wonder, can we say even a true.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Pioneer though, yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I think you have to be able to label him
as a true pioneer.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
So, of course.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Are condolences to the Resmusen family. But at ninety three,
he's lived a fantastic life. Because think about it, though,
as we all get caught up in terms of, oh,
I want to be doing things, you know, if you're
looking at it from a professional career standpoint, because I'm
(22:10):
I'm sensing this with my kids right now that twenty six,
twenty four, and twenty two and now out in the workforce.
It's now other than Ryan, my oldest one, who just
started pitt Law School this week, first week of classes
there at University of Pittsburgh at law school. But there's
this thought, and especially with the microwave mentality, that Okay,
(22:37):
I need to be doing more at a younger age.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I need to have it all figured out. I need
to have my career.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It's exactly, I need to have everything all wrapped up done.
And why am I not getting these promotions, Why am
I not getting to this level financially? You know all
of those things. And here's Bill Rasmussen at the age
of forty six and gets fired and says, you know what,
all right, well, maybe this is my path, this is
(23:05):
what I needed to have happened, right, and I'm going
to go start this this channel because you know, he's
probably he was probably thinking about it, you know, before that,
and what I've read that he had actually been working
on that for a couple of years, just the idea
and had explored even buying you know, a TV tower
(23:28):
or you know, antenna or whatever, but the costs and
everything were just so expensive relative to this satellite that
he get. And I'm like, who even things to buy
satellite in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
So for him to be in that position that, I mean,
he's almost fifty years old and then really starts his
career when you think about it, and I think that's admirable.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, I mean there's something to be said about comfort, right,
Like comfort is great, but it also leads to, you know,
complacency in the sense that I'm sure he probably was
thinking about this idea.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
He's probably exploring it.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Had he not been fired and taken out of his
comfort zone, Who's to say he ever would have explored it.
You know, it took something like that to push him
and go, well, because I mean you look at it
and go, yeah, you know, I could start this like
it seems like a good idea, but man, I'm you know,
do I risk all of this right now? Like my
family's good, Like I'm good, this is good money what
(24:31):
I'm doing, Like I'm comfortable. We're in a good place
right now. And then you get fired and go, yes, well,
I don't know what else I want to do.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I got to figure this out. Yeah, well how about
that idea that I y But don't you think most
people would be Okay, well I'm a public relations person,
all right, let me go find another job in pr.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Oh yeah, most people would yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
And he decided not to, and there you go, and
I can empathy to a certain degree with him, just
in terms of I left coaching then got into med
device sales that had a successful career there just didn't
it just didn't feel the void of wanting to still
(25:17):
be in sports and just miss that. And so then
when I started the podcast, it gave me a little
sense of that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And then it was almost the same thing.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
This was right after COVID and you know, now I'm
a national sales director for this startup med device company
and I get fired. And it was like that moment
that I remember telling people several times, almost like in
a joking manner, well my real job gets in the
(25:47):
way of what I really want to do. And then
I think it was almost God punching me in the nose, saying,
all right, you're not going to go pursue what you
want to do.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, okay, I'm gonna take the job away from you
right now. Go do it.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, now, go do it. And so I remember distinctly
sitting there looking out the window and saying, Okay, I
hear you. God, I don't know what this looks like,
but I'm going all in on sports media. Here we go,
and here we are now, you know, seven eight years later,
and I'm wanting people to call into Weaverville. Yeah again
eight six four two four zero five four eight zero.
(26:25):
So again I can relate to a certain degree, but
not to the degree he started a channel, I mean
massive and in nineteen seventy nine. Yeah, that was unheard of.
That's the point.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
But isn't that.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Just the definition and in that just what also just
makes America great? And just human ingenuity, human determination, you know,
all of that that he decided. Okay, I don't care.
Could be a failure, whatever it might be, but at
least I'm going to try. And sure enough he tried,
(27:02):
and look out it's worked out.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
History. It is history. That's my point.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
That's why I don't know if you have a moment
or any of those special moments from ESPN, are your
first memories of ESPN, and give us a call eight
six four two four zero five four eight zero. Again,
that number is eight sixty four two four zero five
four eight zero. Okay, sports PSA though, Okay, I've got
(27:29):
to get to my sports PSA because I don't know
if you've heard the news that Roger Goodell has come
out and he has said it's inevitable there is going
to be a team in the NFL that is going
to be permanently located in Europe.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
That's happening. Yeah, that is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
And Roger Goodell is saying it, quote unquote no doubt.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I mean building the road map.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
It's pretty clear, yes, that he's been saying it for
a while and he says, quote at some point there
will be NFL teams outside the U s A. I
have no doubt that this will happen one day. End
quote teams plural.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Oh yeah, he did say teams. Hmm. I think you
have to so get ready and it's and it. So
the point is is that.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
From an NFL standpoint, yeah, it's probably not something that
I feel needs.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
To happen, right, But I understand it, Okay. I I
think it has to be multiple teams. You can't just
do one.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
That's I think that. Yeah, I think there's probably some
validity to that too. But what I want to talk
about is what we're hearing from the narrative about these
international games and in college how it's a scam okay,
because we're being lied to basically. Is My point is that, Okay,
(29:09):
we've held this belief that college football needs to grow
the game, just like the NFL, and one of the
ways to do it is overseas. And now I get
it from an international standpoint expansion situation for the NFL,
(29:29):
I do, But for college athletics and especially college football,
I just don't know if I'm believing in it. And
that's why I do believe it's a scam in terms
of when they say this will help grow the game,
and I'm not certain this is the way, the pathway
(29:53):
that you're going to grow the game the best in
terms of you're removing what we love about college football,
the campus environment and the cultural phenomenon. As we were
talking about ESPN and moving it across a pond or
(30:14):
wherever it might be.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
You could go to Mexico.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I get that, but I just don't know if we're
in that situation where we should be playing regular season
college football games on foreign seoul. And now again, I
know you've got these opportunities neutral site game in Dublin, London, Frankfort,
wherever it might be. But just because you think you're
(30:39):
expanding the global footprint, I don't know if you're actually
growing the brand of college football. And that's why I
do think it's a scam, because it's all just a
cash grab disguised as a vision that, oh, we can
do this with college athletics. And I've probably been thinking
about this for a couple of years now, especially as
(31:01):
we're getting ready to start another season and guess what,
we have a game in Dublin and we know that
even oh, Notre Dame is going.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
To go play in Ireland. How cool is that?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Okay, Conceptually, I get it because just the fighting Irish.
I do understand that, But I just don't think that
when you're in a situation that you're having these powers
that be that are making these decisions push this narrative
to normalize games thousands of miles away from campus. Tells
(31:36):
me that maybe they've got other motives in play, and
I think it's money. When we don't know the exact answer,
it definitely comes back to money. So again, when you're
looking at it from a perspective with the NFL, and
we've seen it, there's no doubt the NFL as powerful
(31:59):
it is in America, it is becoming a global entertainment conglomerate.
We do know that, and it's built on star power
of course, fantasy football and some of the greatest athletes
we've seen in that particular sport. College football, though, I
think it's much more of a situation where again, it's
(32:22):
the pageantry of being on campus. It's the opportunity of
tailgating on one of those crisp falls Saturday mornings or
Saturday afternoons. It's the eighty thousand people there at a
stadium singing the alma mater.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's the marching band.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
It's all of those things that are centered around It's
the student section jumping up and down, shaking the stadium. Basically,
it's those moments that are part of college football, and
you're trying to yank it out of its natural habitat
and send it to a soccer stadium five time zones away.
(33:06):
I just don't know if that's what you're wanting to do.
In terms of the soul of the sport. It needs
to be played on campus. And I'm even a big proponent.
How many neutral site games do we need in college football?
We need them on campuses. We need it where you
have the local community. And when you rip a game
(33:30):
away from the local community and the opportunity of the
ticket sales there seeing your team in its home environment,
it just takes away from what I feel one of
the reasons why we love college football and how we
differentiate it from the NFL, and how many times that
(33:52):
we've been talking about we don't want college football to
follow the same path as the NFL. We want them
to look a little bit different. Well, this way right here,
I don't know if this is the right way. I
would be more inclined that you grab a bunch of
fans from Europe and.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Bring them over and let them experience. Sure. Yeah, the
pageantry of college football on.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Campuses, I think at its very core when we talk
about college football, I think you're talking about connection. I
think that's the biggest thing there that separates college football
from the NFL. Now, obviously the NFL, you have a
connection to the city, but it's different. You're a fan
of this school, presumably because you or your family went
(34:40):
to that school. There's a different level of intimacy when
it comes to college football that I feel like is
being stripped.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Out for money.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
What you're talking about, it's being sold for parks. We're
sending off overseas because oh that would be cool. But
you forget the thing that makes college football truly special
is the community. Is the fans coming together in their
own environment and their own town and their own city.
Their their families went there, they went there. There's a
there's a history there that you can't even with as
(35:11):
a Dallas Cowboys fan. However that came about, whether it
was seeing it as a kid or maybe your your family,
however that comes about. It's still totally and radically different
from Clemson because you walk those halls, you went there,
you sang that alma mater, that was part of your
history because Rismond Weaver and you can't replicate that. And
(35:32):
that's also why I look at it when you take
it overseas, I don't think it will ever mean as
much to somebody living in Ireland with Notre Dame because
they didn't walk those halls. Yeah, they can get on
board with you know, any of the NFL teams.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Sure that's right.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
And I also know that not every fan of a
university went there. Sure I know that, yes, And but
they have this other type of connection. Maybe they've been
to the games, or again it's friends that have been there,
or their parents went there, exactly, some type of connection
(36:09):
they live in the area, whatever it might be. And
of course I think there is a difference here in
the Southeast, and we all know just from a perspective
of not talking about SEC football. I'm just talking about
football in the Southeast region. It is college football, is it,
and more so than pro of course, there's a lot
(36:32):
of pro fans out there, and you could look at
the Northeast, it's probably more geared towards professional sports the
NFL than it is in college. But I just think,
you know, in terms of you know, sending some of
these games over there, and some of the brands that
(36:52):
were sending I just don't know if you're capturing everything
that is beautiful about college football and you can't pick
up Ohio State and Michigan and take them over there
and it's going to be the same type of environment,
same type of game. You can't pick up the Palmetto
(37:13):
Bowl and take Clemson in South Carolina over to London
and it's going to have the same type of pageantry, Right,
You just can't. Where the NFL, I think to a
certain degree, you can. I mean, now we've become much
more I guess, in touch with other countries and how
(37:36):
they utilize and how they experience sports. Oh yeah, because
now we have access to so much more information, so
much more content. It's easier to travel all of these things.
So I get that. So it does lend itself, you know,
from that standpoint. But I just think there's something about
(37:57):
I mean, being at Death Valley, being at the Swamp,
being at you know, the Horseshoe, being at Willie b Yeah,
I mean, can you imagine I mean if some of
those fans over in Europe came and experienced a night
game at Williams. Brice Stadium when it is I mean
(38:21):
going electric.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Are you crazy?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
And we think that just by sending say like North
Carolina and TCU overseas, that that is that's what we're
sending over. I mean, if we're going to do it,
let's send over. I mean teams that are going to
be in contention for a national championship, a conference championship
(38:49):
at minimum something, right, I mean, my goodness, at least
put together something that is more powerful from an excitement standpoint.
But even with that said, I think I am fully
completely out on the international games.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I'm out. I'll watch, though, I will.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
I mean, I'm not going to sit here and try
to stand on a principle that I will not watch
because it's an international game.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
No, I'll watch. I'm just out on it. I just
don't like it.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I want them to play there at the home sites,
at the home field. I want the pageantry of college
football and everything that's centered around it. Okay, I don't know,
Maybe I'm maybe I'm out of touch, maybe i'm you know,
in a minority here, but I'm completely out on the
international games.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
But once it's on TV.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, I'll watch because it's college football it is.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, you want to see him play. I want to
see I want to see college football. Yeah, I just
don't want to see it played internationally. All right, let
me know your thought.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
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Speaker 2 (40:35):
And we did have.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Texter sixty seven thirty eight chiming in on the text
line saying, being from Texas, I want to know when
high school is going overseas and he laughs or she laughs. Yes,
we know high school football is big in Texas and
they spend some money over there with high school football.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
So hey telling to you you.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Watch out, But the Texter continues saying, but really, college,
who's paying the airfare, who's paying the hotel.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
The band for all of this to go over there?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Trainer's meals what if someone gets in trouble? It's just
not profitable for the ones that are seeing all the signs.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yeah, the dollar signs. Yeah. I mean again, these are
expensive trips. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
And there's no doubt that from the exposure standpoint, these
schools probably see the dollar signs. And in terms of
it's marketing that you're not paying for, I get that,
and so there is something to be said about, hey,
you can't put a price tag on that in terms
of how much marketing it could cost or whatever. But
(41:47):
there's also you know, how much ever they're being paid,
is that another revenue generator for them? Because of where
we are in the NIL world and those things, And
that just leads me back to, well, see there we
are once again. It's not fair for everybody. Then, so
(42:09):
why are these schools getting the opportunity of earning money
that way and not every other school has that opportunity.
And that's why it's a mockery when we try to
put every school and every sport into one box and
say that everybody should be the same. It's just not
and it hasn't been that way for a long time.
(42:30):
So I just think the international games in college they're out.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I'm out on them. I'll still watch them, though, I
just don't think it behooves And I just don't want
to hear.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Don't try to tell me, Oh, it's to grow the
game globally. No, I don't want to hear that exactly now. NFL,
I think they are having a true intentional effort to
grow the game globally way. But the NFL is built
(43:03):
to be grown right globally. It just is because there's
one entity. Everybody plays by the same rules, all of that.
So I just think there's something different about the NFL
versus college. And we did have Texter eighty six ninety
four chiming in about the situation where Roger Goodell is
(43:23):
talking about that there's going to be teams going to
Europe or at least international. I should say it might
not be Europe, but as he's quoted again in a
recent interview with a German media outlet saying, quote, at
some point there will be NFL teams outside the USA.
I have no doubt that this will happen one day.
(43:45):
End quote.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
So it's it's definitely going to happen.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
But Texter eighty six ninety four says, how about this
European slash Asian division with four teams London, Germany, China,
and maybe add in and all Australian team and then
an America's division with teams in Canada, Mexico and Brazil.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Question mark? And then where else would be optimal? Question mark? Hmmm, China.
I don't think I do. Australia Australia time difference fighteen hours,
that's a that's a tough one. Australia would be tough.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Europe makes complete sense, Mexico would make complete sense.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
And I mean, of course, Canada we already do it.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
I mean NFL, not in the NFL, but yes in
other sports, yeah we do.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I mean, so that makes complete sense.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
But what I think Roger Goodell is talking about when
he's saying international, I don't think he's meaning just directly
Canada or Mexico. I think he's truly talking about Germany,
talking about England, talking about those countries there. I think
he has broader visions of that, and I do agree
(45:06):
with you though, though it's not just going to be
one solo team out in Germany and that's it. This
could be a situation where you could have four teams,
like in Europe somewhere.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
It'd be like the European Division or whatever.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yes, exactly, So, I mean what the text right here
is describing the European Division have four teams there? Have
one in London, have one in Germany, if you have
one in Spain, one in Rome, whatever it might be,
and there's your four European Division teams.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
I think it's the only way that makes sense. Because
you put one and then it won. It fractures everything,
but it does. A team's got to travel every week
across the pond. It just doesn't make sense, that's right.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
That's why you've got to have teams that can travel
within their area, you know, within Europe.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Face them twice a year, just like every yere Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
So instead of third two teams, we go to thirty
six teams.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Man, that feels weird? Does that feel weird? Yeah? Just
say inevitable, but yeah, yeah, I think it's inevitable.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Also, And if Froderi Goodell's already saying it out loud.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Yeah, it's happening. You can bank on that. Okay.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Hour two of this Tuesday edition of The Richmond Weaver Show,
presented by Ingles Markets, continues right here on one oh
four nine.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
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