The Richmond Weaver Show 2026-8-7 Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Exploring the latest headlines and in depth conversations. It's the
Richmond Weavers Show on one oh four to nine Fox
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Now for riches take on sports. Here's Richmond Weaver.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
This Friday, right here on one o four nine Fox
Sports Upstate. If it's a Friday where we've made it
to the weekend, we've made it to Friday, well, then
of course it's the Friday edition of the Richmond Weavers Show,
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behind the mic as usual as I was in Greensboro

(00:43):
for the past couple of days for the windhom Championship
and back in the cozy confines of the studio. Always
enjoy being back in studio right here downtown Greenville on
North Main Street. And of course we always are enthusiastic
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but also to participate. You can join the conversation. We've

(01:06):
got a lot to talk about today. Eight six four
two four zero five four eight zero. Again that numbers
eight six four two four zero five four eight zero.
I wonder how it would come across if I came
on the air and said, but of course, it seems
like each day I say, hey, we've got a lot
to talk about. Yeah, how would it come across if

(01:27):
I said, well, today we've got nothing to talk about,
Because I mean, isn't it automatically presumed we got we
have a lot to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I mean maybe I'm assuming things. I mean there's always
stuff going on in sports. Yeah, it's always something to
talk about. That's that's my point.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
And you know there's something about Hey, the summertime, as
far as od's it's a dead period in sports. No,
that's just baseball season. That's all it is, right, you know,
I see you. But the point is is that we're
consistently full of things that we can talk about. Oh yeah,

(02:04):
and did anybody think that we were going to come
in and be dis enthusiastic on Friday about an NFL
preseason game?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Hey, that came was pretty I mean, it's preseason, I
get it, but it was entertaining for what it was.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Hey. Again, at the end of the day, I know
it doesn't count. But one of the things we love
about sports is just being entertained.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Oh yeah, and that was entertaining. Yes, it was.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
That was something that I'm looking at saying, wow, okay,
is that a precursor, so to speak, in terms of
could that be setting the stage for what this twenty
twenty six season could be coming out of the gates
fast like that, where you have a high scoring affair,
it ends in dramatic fashion, as you heard at the

(02:50):
top of the hour there, and unfortunately they played the
clip I was going to play that Haines King clip
right there from NBC Sports and Mike Turrico. But I
thought this was a fantastic performance. And again, I know
this is a narrative that's already out there, and that's okay.
We can all have the same type of opinion. Of course, Yes,

(03:13):
did you pick up on a lot of things that's
going to help you understand how good the Panthers are,
how good the Cardinals are going to be?

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Maybe not. It is a small sample size.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
You have to take that into consideration, but I do
think it leads you to believe that.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Okay, this was entertaining. Yeah, this was fun.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
And anytime you win on the last play of the game,
I mean, are you kidding me, and of course not
just trying to kick a field goal. You go for
a win, and a little bit easier to do in
pre season because it doesn't matter. So I would love
to know if Dave Canalis is he going to do
that in the regular season. Probably not. You probably force

(03:56):
that into overtime. Yeah, of course, based on this situation,
on where you are in the season. There's so many
other factors. I do get that, but I felt this
was a sixty three point somewhat of a track meet.
And as fans, if you're going to have a preseason game,
this is the type of preseason game you want. Yeah,
where it comes down to clutch performances, high scoring, fair

(04:20):
relative to some of the other preseason games that we've seen,
and especially the Hall of Fame game.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I mean you look at some of the past scores
in the Hall of Fame game last year, thirty four
to seven Chargers over the Lions twenty twenty four. That
one was actually shortened there in the three quarter. That
was the weather. The Bears twenty one to seventeen over
the Texans. Then you had the Browns twenty one to
sixteen over the Jets, Raiders twenty seven to eleven over

(04:50):
Jacksonville twenty twenty one, sixteen to three. Your Steelers beating
like cowboys. So when you're looking at it from a
Hall of Fame game type of perspective, I mean, can
we say this might be the best Hall of Fame
game we've seen, And again we're judging preseason games. Oh yeah, yeah,

(05:14):
it's totally different category. Yeah yeah, it is a completely
different category category, But who cares.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
It's football.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
And I think that's what we loved last night is
that you finally got to see some football, and for
a preseason game. I do think it lived up to
or even surpassed expectations because typically my point is that
you don't see the drama and finishes like that in
preseason games.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah, and I also think that, you know, I feel
like oftentimes when it comes to preseason games, maybe we
get a little too caught up in the meaning the
quote unquote meaning and oh yeah, but preseason games don't
mean much and they don't like there's not really much
that you can glean from it other than maybe, ok,
maybe what personnel this team's going to be running this year?

(06:03):
Like you you can get a little bit of stuff
out of it, but it's really not much. But I
also feel like, you know, entertainment can be its own meaning,
and for this game, like again to your point that
typically it's very lackluster, but I think that it's okay
to just look at this game and go, man, you
know that was kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Like I get that it's preseason.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
I get everybody has this hang up where it's like, yeah,
but it's not real football. No it's not, but it
could still be fun. And I think this game was
rather enjoyable.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
It definitely was.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
And I think also just even from a perspective the
thing that we were wanting to look at from a
perspective as.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
The quarterback position.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, the quarterback play, How was that going to play out?
In terms of would we see any type of indicators,
any points of reference that would lead us to think that, Okay,
this quarterback has an opportunity to be a true NFL quarterback. Right,

(07:03):
maybe not starting just yet, but Carson Beck fifteen of nineteen,
one hundred and eighty eight yards touchdown, Okay, not bad.
Then you had Kenny Pickett eight of eleven sixty two yards.
Canny pickets that line. If I ever heard that is
Canny Pickett, Yeah, Keidan Slovas nine of ten, one hundred
and nine yards for a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
And then of course Haines King there for the Panthers
twenty one to thirty four, two hundred and nineteen total yards,
three touchdowns, and the icing on the cake is running
it in for a touchdown there that five yards scramble
And what an athletic play that was, because how many
times have we seen guys when they dive, they get to.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
The end zone, but their knee.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Touches before they cross the line there. And I think
last night Haines King, what he was able to do
to stay vertical or to stay horizontal I should say
there mid air that was pretty special. But I also
felt that that's something that we've seen Haines King do

(08:13):
in college. That was one of his skill sets is
that he could scramble and when things were breaking down,
he could take it on his own. And you asked
Clemson fans, Haines King just continued to run and run
and evade Clemson Tigers last year as Georgia Tech gets
the walk off field goal to beat Clemson, and I

(08:36):
just think this was a showcase opportunity for some of
these quarterbacks, and especially Haines King, because I think there's
a lot of people like, oh, can Haines.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
King play in the NFL? Right?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
And this is where I'm saying, I don't know if
this is the box that gets checked and says, all right, yep,
that's it.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
He's a true NFL quarterback.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Let's sign him, you know, to as a backup type
of quarterback. Sure, I just don't know if he's at
that point just yet, right.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
But I think people tend to also under like I
think we forget about the practice squad oftentimes, and like
there are guys that you know, you don't get paid
NFL money there on the practice squad, but you get
paid a little bit that I could see Haines King
maybe cementing himself on a practice squad with a chance
to move up if something were to happen with some

(09:27):
of the starters. Maybe not at Carolina, maybe somewhere else
or just somewhere in the league. But yeah, I think
there's a spot for him in the NFL, even if
he's not an NFL starter or even a backup.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, he's not a starter at least right now. Yes,
I think we can all agree upon that. And I
don't know if Carson Bek is as of right now,
but Carson Beck is a veteran type of guy in
terms of how many games he's actually played in his
career because of his long college career, So you do

(09:58):
have that. I mean it's like twenty three, twenty four
years old, so that's a little bit different. Now we
also know the NFL is different, so I do understand that.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
But he looked efficient.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, fifteen of nineteen, one hundred and eighty eight yards
in a touchdown. And you know, I think this is
again an opportunity where I think Carson Beck will prove
that he's worthy of a spot on a roster.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, I do think so. And it depends on you.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Now, I mean you're basically having three quarterbacks on your roster,
and again then do you have somebody on.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Your practice squad?

Speaker 2 (10:36):
And I just think that Carson Beck because of his
ability to be accurate at times, and I know that
has been somewhat of maybe a narrative that he's not,
but I think it's more of does he have the
arm strength there in the NFL? And speaking of arm strength,
I mean the throw that Haines King had there in

(10:57):
the third quarter to Jimmy Horne Junior. Yeah, for the
first down. I mean that was pretty special. That was
a nice rip right there. And those are the type
of throws that there's coaches saying, oh, okay, now we
see something.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Maybe we can define every refine everything else, you.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Know, yeah, exactly. Hey, let me know your thoughts though.
Were you entertained by this NFL preseason game? Eight six
four two four zero five to four eight zero. That
is the number to the Ingles hotline again, eight six
four two four zero five to four eight zero.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
At the end of the day, it's football.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Oh yeah, So we have officially started football the one
hundred and seventh season of the NFL. Real hundred and seventh.
Ok yeah, it's going all the way back to nineteen
nineteen or I mean, that's just crazy. Yeah, nineteen nineteen,
nineteen twenty. I mean that's a long time. Now we

(11:59):
know things heavy vault just over the years.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
A little bit different brand of football.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
It is a little bit different brand of football. And
now we have forty eight more preseason games to get through.
I'm okay, if we didn't have as many preseason games, simp.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Through it like on Madden you just sim.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Through it just hey, no, you need to get Chad
to get us a DVR for preseason games, right, yes,
Chad the vending machine King, can you set that up?
We just DVRs right through preseason fast forward, through all
the commercials, through all the bad preseason games. Because as

(12:35):
much as I say, can this would be a precursor?
Is this like a little indicator of what this season
can be in twenty twenty six? Hey, get ready, we're
going to have some snooze fest. Oh yeah, the preseason.
It just happens that is bound to be part of
the scenario that plays out with the NFL preseason. But

(12:59):
all in all, I mean it was definitely an entertaining
game and getting to see Mike Tomlin's pretty cool. Yes,
hey again, it it's something where you're not expecting it,
so maybe you have a little bit more of like
not surprise, but intrigue as far as okay, you're paying

(13:21):
attention to much more of what they say, and you know,
for Tomlin, I just feel he just somewhat has that
it factor as an orator as you know, or an
orator however you want.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
To pronounce it.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
I just feel that it almost comes comfortable to him,
and I think it will even be proven more and
more as he gets more reps.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
I think it's part of it. Yeah, I thought he
was pretty good.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
I will say, having watched enough Tomlin press conferences, it
did he felt a little, at least in my opinion,
just a little apprehensive, like oh yeah, almost like I
almost felt like they had him on a.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Little bit of guardrails, like this is my box. Yeah,
of course, I mean it's his.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
First broadcast, right, And then it was it was pretty cool.
He had a little bit of a part in where
they went through the did you see the promo or
whatever they did? Maybe that was somewhere in the first
quarter in one of the commercial breaks. I'm trying to
remember where it was, but they were like inside the
inside the bus room, and Tomlin was talking about, oh yeah,
Ronde barber Man. You know, I remember coaching him, and

(14:25):
he was talking about being there on the on that
Bucks team as I forget what he was, the assistant something.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
I forget what Tomlin was for that team. But it
was cool there in that.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
I mean, he had a little bit of a piece there,
just you know, it was a package content, but it
was cool. I was like, Okay, there's Tomlin. But like
when he was there on set, like he was good,
but I could tell it it felt a little like
he was trying to maybe not that he was finding
his place, but maybe he was holding back a little
bit because I've heard of enough.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
I'm like, oh, he's got enough.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Tomlin is of course, well that's I think that maybe
saving it for the season. Well, I also think I
think you you have to kind of find.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Your your seat at the table, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I mean, it's a rookie, that's right, and find your rhythm,
and you know, you don't want to come in and
you know, I don't what's the right word. I'm just
trying to think of. You don't want to come in
and basically implant yourself too fast and take over. And

(15:24):
Tomlin's not that type of guy. And that's what That's
not what it was. And so I'm doing a bad
job of creating some type of analogy here or a way.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
To describe it.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
But you want to ease your way into it, sure,
And so I think that is part of Tomlin's personality
to a certain degree, that he's just not going to
put himself out there until he's probably a little bit
more comfortable. Oh I am too, Yes, and so again
I want to hear some of the stuff where he's talking,
like what you are.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Describing out there.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, that's the type of stuff that I definitely want
to hear from Mike Tomlin. All Right, we got to
hit this break as we will continue this Friday edition
of the Richmond Weaver Show presented by Ingles Markets. Our
good friend Brian Kite, Coach to the Coaches, author of
Dailydiscipline dot Com, is set to join us coming up
as we'll continue much more right after this here on

(16:17):
one O four nine Fox Sports Upstate. The Friday edition
of the Richmond Weavers Show presented by Ingles Markets continues
right here on one O four nine five Sports Upstate
as we are here the weekend. Also, NFL football has started,
so it is oh so close to the regular season,

(16:38):
just a few weeks away. College football fall camps are starting.
We had Clemson start. South Carolina's starting now so here
even in just a small part of the college football
landscape in South Carolina, yes, people are getting very excited.
And then, of course, not too far from Carolina Carolina
Panthers there in Charlotte and being able to get that

(17:03):
big win preseason game thirty three to thirty.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
There we're going to say big win. It was dramatic. Hey,
it was dramatic. It was dramatic.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
And we also get opportunity as we do each week,
and it has been falling on these Fridays lately, and
so it's a fantastic Friday with our good friend Brian Kite,
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(17:35):
your day. And he's also the coach to the coaches,
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get those cultures and aligning behaviors to achieve fantastic results,
not just in sports but also in your life. Bk
always a pleasure having you join us and your thoughts
on NFL action is here, and we did have at

(17:57):
least an entertaining preseason game.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Man Haines King doing Haines Kings things. How awesome was
that last night? And you know what, you know what
it was? It was all over. I saw it was
all over XA. It was it was Haines King and
why am I? Why am I blanket on the former
Georgia quarterback Carson Carson back King Carson Beck rematched from
the good old fashioned hate game two years ago that

(18:23):
went to eight overtimes. They were slinging it again.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Came in out of the last nap. That's right, that's
a great point. Yeah, it's so fun.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Life is full circle moments, right that you have those
type of things play out.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
I was just, I was just. I was just working
talking to a college DC last night. I said, and
I was saying, hey, the game's on, and I had
the game on in the background, and he said, oh,
hey it is. I said, yeah, I said, it's the
last Thursday of twenty twenties. This is the last Thursday
of twenty twenty six. Last Thursday was the last Thursday
of twenty twenty six without football. That's a holiday in

(18:58):
and of itself.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yes, it is all right. How much do you take
from preseason games?

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Zero for for for actual Yeah, nothing, nothing, especially in
the NFL, because you know, you see it, I mean whatever,
there's teams that was at the Ravens, the Ravens haven't
lost any preseason games, and somebody else the Patriots never
win any preseason games, you know, whatever, So no that
the you know, especially from a football team perspective, you know,

(19:28):
preseason is hard because it's different than a typical it's
different than a typical game. We have to remember a
preseason is a tryout. So what you don't have is
you don't have coordinated work and fully aligned groups executing

(19:48):
behind a common purpose. What you have is you have
a large portion of the players on the roster operating
out of heavy self interest, not quite hied deep enough
into team interest. And then you have a lot of
other players who are out of self interest, not competing
that hard because they already have a roster spot, and

(20:10):
competing that hard in preseason is against their self interest
because it exposes them to an injury risk. So preseason
is a non reference point for a team, but it
is obviously where guys win or lose jobs. And you know,
you look at Carson Beck last night and he's making
a case for why he should be the starter over

(20:34):
Jacoby Brissett. But he made that case last night. Haynes
King is making the case for why he should be
QB two, if not for the Panthers, for a bunch
of other franchises for a very long time. Because he
is that dude, right, and you give him time to
be QB two, maybe he develops into a QB one
in the right system, get to the right spot. I

(20:55):
think that's possible. I think it's possible with Beck as well.
But those guys are fighting for a great spot. They're
both fighting for rosters. About what happens in the preseason
is self interest is overweighted in the preseason. They don't
really get a good view of the team itself.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Brian Kite is our guest here on this Friday edition
of the Richmond Weavers Show, presented by Engles Market again,
coach to the Coaches and author of Daily Discipline newsletter.
Make sure you check it out and sign up at
Dailydiscipline dot com. Okay, so you mentioned self interest because
this is actually what I wanted to talk about, and
I know it's been circulating. Hard Knocks's out now with

(21:33):
Seattle Seahawks, but head coach Mike McDonald and safety there
Nick em and Warri who played at South Carolina, so
it actually even ties in even more so here in
the state of South Carolina. But you talk about that
self interest and what you're seeing in that whole conversation
is some self interest there and a player valuing their

(21:57):
self interest. But you talk about you can't eliminate self
interest or suppress it successfully. Self interest must serve team interest,
but team interests must also serve self interest. So explain
how Mike McDonald has been able to understand that and
what you mean by that.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah, so it first doesn't have anything to do with sports.
It has everything to do with human nature. All of
us right present company in this conversation included present company,
listening right now, also included every single one of us
operates out of self interest. All of us.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yes, okay, that.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Is unchangeable. You do the things that you do because
of how you calculate self interest. The difference is how
in what we calculate with our self interest. There are
dads that I know their self interest is completely tied
to being present and active and involved with their sons

(23:06):
and their daughters and nothing to take them away. I've
got dads here that I know in my community. I've
got good friends of mine that drive across seven different
states to make sure that their kids get to play
in hockey tournaments and baseball tournaments and all that. There
is nothing about it that is, you know, fun. It
costs a ton of money, right Like, it's not fun

(23:28):
purely for the dad in his own personal self interest,
But he views his self interest through the lens of
my self interest is tied to make taking care of
my kids, putting them in a good position, helping them grow.
That's how they calculate it. There are other dads who
don't want to be involved in that at all. They
calculate their self interest based on I don't want to
have to work that hard or figure it out yourself,

(23:49):
or I'd rather relax on the couch, or that costs
too much money, or whatever I think sports are whatever.
They calculate their self interest differently, so they don't participate
in any of those things. It's not any single activity
that is universally self interest for people. What it is
is you have to understand every single person has a

(24:10):
self interest in sports. You see this really easily. Some
people's self interest is aligned with being a good teammate.
They want to be a good teammate. They the way
they view the world is it's like the worst thing
imaginable is being a bad teammate. They show up, they
want to work hard because they value those things. There
are other people who do not really care about those things.

(24:31):
They want to score touchdowns and be popular and then
or other people who want to get a paycheck and
they want to get a contract. There are other people
who just want to be where their friends are. They
just want to be able with some friends. They're kind
of there to participate. There are other people who count
their self interest by getting their mom or dad's approval.
So they don't really love the sport. They don't really
love being a doctor or lawyer. But if they weren't,

(24:51):
their dad wouldn't be happy with them or might be disappointed,
And so they calculate their self interest and they do
their thing. Okay, so everybody acts out of self interest.
The problem on a team is that coaches talk about
self interest like it's a moral and ethical in character flaw.
They say, be selfless. Well, the problem is nobody is selfless.

(25:14):
It's an impossible task. Nobody is selfless, right, So what
happens is coaches get into a trap of telling players
to be selfless and respectfully. I'll take college coaches because
it's who I work with. That's where I get this
different in the NFL is college coaches who make twelve

(25:34):
million dollars, right, and listen, I don't mind saying this.
I don't mind saying it. Okay, I understand the Doabo
is one of those guys. Dabo's one of those guys
who has for a long time told athletes be selfless,
stop asking for what you can get, and respectfully, Dobbo's
paychecks are too big to tell somebody who made zero
dollars they're not allowed to pursue something that makes for them.

(25:55):
There's a there's an absence of credibility that now I
understand how it happens. Now's not the only one, right,
He's just sort of relevant to this, you know station,
and we hit it. And I think that's part of
why kind of he and the program kind of got
into a bit of a funk, was because the story
and the perspective and the whole thing coming out it
didn't quite all connect where it's like, man, how do
we make twelve million dollars? And you're pursuing your self

(26:18):
interest fully, but then comes somewhere else and then you're
telling me, I'm not allowed to pursue my self interest
and I need to sacrifice myself for the benefit of
the program. But if the program does well, you're the
one who gets a raise. How does that make sense
for a player?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
Like my point. The point I always tell coaches is
I'm good with it. I'm good with it as long
as you go first. You go first, you be selfless,
you give your money up, you don't pursue anything, You
take the lower contract, you give all the money that
comes with the rewards to other people, and empty your

(26:57):
bank account on behalf of everybody else. It does not
have the one leader who takes the big hit, right, Yeah,
you sacrifice all right? So what I love about McDonald
And by the way, you know, I think as the
world's kind of come along, like we've been talking about
for a few years now here you know, you and
I've been having this conversation of sometimes it just takes
a while to kind of get up to speed with
some of the changes. And I think all I'm watching,

(27:20):
I think though was learning. I think he's figuring it out,
like and he's an old school everybody who's been watching him, like,
whether you're a diehard Clumson fan or whether you're a
college football fan. He's made no bones about what what
his beliefs were. I mean, there was a time where
he said I will quit before I coach players who
get paid. He was really he said it with his chest. Now,
I don't know that anybody actually believed that, and it

(27:42):
was probably more principal or or you know, idea based. Fine, no,
but but it does seem to me like a caught
up just a little bit. And he's kind of catching
up now to this. So I love aw. Mike McDonald
was if you listen to that conversation with even worried.
He came in even worries in the boot and on
the whole thing. He's got a scooter. Yeah, and he's like,
you know, I don't want to go to practice. I

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don't you know, I'm not showing it is I don't
see me. Plus some bounced around and listen to what
Mike McDonald said. He said, you know what I'm gonna say,
right and in Warrior said, I actually don't know what
you're gonna say. He was kind of nervous, he was uncertain,
and Mike McDonald said, whatever is the best decision for you.
Do that. He didn't say, whatever the team asks of you,

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go do that. Sacrifice yourself. He didn't say that. He said,
whatever is the best decision for you, do that, And
then he went through, Sometimes go home and get rest,
Sometimes come in and watch take sometimes rehab. Sometimes it's
I need to go spend a bunch of time with
my teammates and be with my boys and be part
of the team. You have to be willing to figure

(28:49):
out what's the best for you and at this and
this is what he said. So you tie, because the
problem isn't self interest. The problem is self interest that
deviates from team interest. So here the big lesson for everybody,
and this is true for teams, organizations, banks, hospitals, families,
anybody is the problem is never self interest. The problem

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is when self interest disrupts and violates the interest of
a group. It's kind of like when the self interest
of I don't know, a company or or a person
disrupts the interest of America. No, America doesn't, doesn't, you know,
doesn't sacrifice itself to take care of an individual. But

(29:35):
also an individual doesn't have to like give everything up
on behalf of America. It's what happens is you need
self interest to point an aim towards the team interest.
So I always tell coaches your first job is to
understand not a sign, and not tell a player what
their self interest should be, because you can't do that right.

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Nobody can make you have a self an interest, self
interest that you don't actually right. I can't tell you, hey,
rich you should care about the things I tell you
to care about, not what you care about. That's wrong.
Care about this, You're not gonna do that. You care
about what you care about. My job is, if I'm
coaching you, is I need to understand what does Richmond
Weaver care about? What is his self interest? Then I

(30:18):
look at the group we belong to, and I say,
can we point that self interest you have and can
I get you to absolutely chase that down and aim
it towards something that benefits our group. So, now by
you serving your self interest, our team interest benefits. And
as our team interest benefits, it feeds and reinforces your

(30:40):
self interest, which doubles down on your effort, which benefits
our team even more.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Now, you have a cycle. So what you have is
self interest that serves team interest. And then this is
the thing that misses most of the time. The team
interest must benefit self interest otherwise you are dead in
the water.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, and that's where you see some the successful teams.
And again to your point, not just from a sports perspective,
but even from an organizational standpoint. You know companies that
longstanding success, whatever it might be, because it seems like
their leaders understand that and try to get that alignment
to exist and what you're talking about and getting into

(31:20):
that cycle where that's where it starts compounding, and then
the end result is wins or successes.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
Exactly. And and you know, and look, there's nothing wrong.
I use this example. Want to go to college football
teams is is why are you here to play college football? Like,
why are you here? What are you doing? And they
say all of the stuff you're supposed to say in
a locker room and a team room, right, I love
the game and the boys next to me, and you
know for a family, Yeah, yeah, family, and you know,

(31:50):
take care of my mom and okay, great, wonderful. Nothing's
wrong with any of that stuff. But it's not completely
true because a huge part of the reason why a
lot of guys, especially at the big time programs are there?
Is they want large contracts in the NFL. And guess
what if you have a past? You know, I just
you know. I'm here in Columbus. I just saw next

(32:11):
today Cardinal Tate out at Tennessee. He got a fifty
million dollar contract. He was drafted. What what fourth overall?
He got a fifty million dollar contract. If Carnal Tate
wasn't playing football, what is his path to fifty million
dollars at at this age? What's his path to fifty million?

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Does he does he have any path to fifty million
dollars at twenty two?

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Probably not?

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Okay? So if I go down to Ohio State and
I go to the business school, and I asked them, hey,
why are you in the business school? All you guys
are studying business banking and private equality and all that.
Why are you down here? Do we expect them to say,
for the love of the spreadsheet man, just for the
love of the deal, I've just sacrificed for the I
just sacrificed for the company. Is that what we expect
them to say? No, we go down to business school,

(33:00):
and what do we expect them to say? I love
the business side, I love this, I want to do it.
But what I'm here because this is a good career.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Career.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Yeah, this gives me security I can build. If you
go down to medical school at Michigan, or you go
to medical school at Ohio State, or you go to
the business school at cleans In and you ask them
why they're doing that. Sure you're gonna say, I love
medicine and I love surgery, and I'll taking care of people. Yes,
I do love those things. But also these are really
good careers that pay really well, and it come with
a certain amount of stuff, and it's okay to pursue that. Yes,

(33:31):
there's nothing wrong with saying I am here because this
is a path if something I'm good at, with a
career that makes a lot of sense and can financially
set me for life. I am here to build a
career that can make a massive amount of money in
a short amount of time, really early in my life,
and I'm committing myself to the excellence of that, which

(33:54):
includes me being great, being a great member of my team,
being the kind of a player in person and an
organization wants to draft, being really good with my teammates,
being highly coachable. Because those guys get paid and if
we win, when I get to the NFL, NFL players
that do that also get paid. Jackson Smith and Jigba

(34:15):
got paid. Justin Jefferson Jamar Chase got paid. Yes, Bryce
Young is Bryson Hey be real? Richmond is Bryce Young? Physically?
Is he an NFL quarterback?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
No, Physically, you would not describe him as an NFL quarterback.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
No, he an NFL quarterback. He committed himself to excellence
and he now by the way, he's talented, no doubt,
he's just not physically. I mean, he can play ball
like an NFL quarterback, So we'll talk. He went number
one overall and not a single quarterback in the history
of the NFL who has ever won games of any

(34:55):
real meaningful type in playoffs or otherwise has ever looked
like him. Ever, Why do they take him number one overall?
Because he's an unbelievable dude, high character, great leader, great teammate,
super smart, does what you want him, can be a
face of the franchise for you, right, And he went
number one overall and made a ton of money because

(35:18):
he's really good in the organization. So if a guy
wants to pursue that, And what that does is he says, man,
if I'm really good on my team, and I'm like
and I'm really tight, and I'm really but it's not
that different than you at a radio station. Man, if
you're a great teammate, you're going to get your contracts,
You're going to be in there. The whole point is

(35:39):
what maximizes your value. What maximizes your value is your
ability to maximize the radio station value. If you understand
maximizing their value is how I maximize them. Now about
my value, and I see that you want to tap
into your own interests and then connect them to the
organization's interest and understand that because that's good for everybody. Yeah,
that is what Mike McDonald is doing. And that was

(36:02):
just an example of him doing it. And I've met
Michael a couple of times, and he seems like that
kind of guy, Like he seems like he gets it.
Not every more coaches are not that guy than are
I mean, maybe maybe twenty percent if that If that
get this, most coaches are still in the sacrifice for

(36:22):
the team. Don't think of yourself, do whatever's asked, and
if you even remotely look at your self interest you're
a bad dude, yes, and nothing, nothing could be worse,
that's right.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
And I was going to say, you know, what you're
describing seems to be a situation where you know that
old phrase, all boats are lifted with rising tides basically,
so I mean, everybody gets better. But to your point
when you're talking about that self interest is viewed as
a problem because isn't that something about the sports culture,

(36:54):
you know, and how things And I know you even
mentioned this because I think this is true, how coaches
seem to demonize the self interest and we've as coaches,
it's just been something that's been trained in coaches.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
For years, in years and years.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
And then I'm even wondering just even from the perspective
as far as is there a clash like with AA,
we're seeing you it's almost to a point exploiting self
interest of these players because it's all about their stats,
it's all about they're trying to get, you know, their
folk focused just on them. So I'm worried that are

(37:33):
we starting to be in conflict with both of these
coaches who have been trained that way, and then maybe
some of the players also not recognizing the importance of
self interest in relation to team interest.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Well, Rich, we we we're not gonna be able to
have this entire We're not gonna be able to have
this entire conversation in this segment. But it's bigger. It's
bigger than sports, and it's bigger than the AAU because
this is a societal issue.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Okay, I gonna keep it.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
I'm gonna keep it real simple though. Okay, I say
this is a societal issue because people don't want what's
good for America. They want what's good for them. They
always have. But what's happened is this is the simple issue.
Here's what does not work. It does not work to
pursue self interest at the expense of team interest.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
That makes sense, Yes it does.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Yes, I get my contract, I get my stats. Our
team sucks, well't they're all gonna get fired. You're not
gonna do anything. That doesn't work. Okay, AAU is self
interest over team interest. It doesn't work. But what also
doesn't work is team interest at the expense of self
interest because good people don't stay there. Yes, good people

(38:40):
will not stay in a place that says we're gonna
do all the team stuff. And I do not care
about what you get and you are not allowed to
care about what you get. Don't even ask about it,
don't talk about it. Good people won't stay there. Listen,
I'm a guy. If I went if if the if
the stasion called you and said, hey, we want you
to do this. We're gonna double your work and we're
gonna pay you has because it's good for the radio station.

(39:02):
By the way, that would be good for the radio station.
Get if they could get more out of you and
pay you less, that's great for the station. Why don't
you be selfless man, be a team player? Because that
doesn't make any sense. So pursuing team interest at the
expense of self interest doesn't work either. So keep it
real simple. If you tell, if you say, hey, we're

(39:23):
all team and we're not paying attention to you, and
you're not allowed to pay attention to you, that doesn't work.
If it's all you, but we're not going to pay
attention to the team and we're not worried about what
happens to the team, that doesn't work. The same thing
happening societally. Societally, what's happened is over the last twenty years,
what have we swung the pendulum to serving the individual

(39:44):
at the expense of the group. And what's happened is
maybe you saw the post. I just saw Michigan. Michigan
a certain section of their business school is they are
not showing grades to the students or on the transcripts
of freshmen students to protect their mental health because if
their grades weren't equal or they weren't as good as

(40:04):
somebody else, it would be damaging to their mental health.
So they're hiding their grades so as not to trigger
any mental health issues. And rich that is serving the
individual or essentially trying to serve self interest at the
expense of the group interest, because we are building and
sending weak like, immature, childlike adults into our society. And

(40:25):
if you wanted to ruin a society, the team, that
is the best way to do it. I'm going to
do everything I can for you to make sure you
never feel pain, you never experien anything uncomfortable, and then
go be a good adult in society. It literally is
destroying us.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
It doesn't's what you have right now.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
Everybody wants take care of me, take care of me,
take care of me. And then you have other places
who are saying, hey, can we get back into a
healthy relationship between group and self where the self serves
the group and the group serves the self, which is
where we want to be. And it's just hard. It's
hard to do it on a football team, let alone
a Marriaga And that's why that's where we're struggling right now.

(41:02):
But it's not it's not a sports issue alone. It's
not a school issue alone. It's not a company issue alone.
It so this is a whole societal issue.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Hey, BK, we appreciate it now. I just need to
make sure maybe that the power is a bee. Weren't
listening when you were suggesting do double the work for
half to pay for me?

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Over here?

Speaker 5 (41:18):
Man, I keep asking college coaches you want more nil.
I'm like, well, you make ten million, why do you
give six million to your reb share this year and
keep four on your salary? Which feels like it's pretty
good for me. You can find yourself a nice quarterback
and offensive tackle with that extra six mil. Coaches haven't
taken me up on that one in their own bank account.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah, they're probably not going to. That is for certainly.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
Powers a beat. If you're listening, pay rich double and
ask them to do half.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
There we go. Now that's what I'm talking about. There's
self interest.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
He's earned it by he earned it.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yes, thank you brother.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
All Right, One quick thing though, because I want to
talk about this a little bit more next time. Is
the Zone one Coach Zone one dot Coach and I
got to experience on this past Saturday where you were
able to showcase this and I was blown away, and
I mean, this is something that I think can be revolutionary,

(42:14):
and kudos to you for pulling all this together. And
it's not an AI coaching thing. Now, you're utilizing some
AI technology, but this is much more than that. So again,
share with people just a quick snapshot and how they

(42:34):
can learn more about it.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
Yeah, so you can check it out at Zone one
dot Coach. An update even from what we talked just
the other day that the app is any Every twelve hours,
the app will be approved in the Apple app Store.
We got the Android app is up and running. We're
looking for beta users on the Android app. So if
you can find me on social and you want to
test out the beta app on Android, you're an Android person.
You're one of those green Texters. Find me on social,

(42:58):
send me to them. Well, despite our disagreement on what
kind of phone you should be using, I'll help you
get the Android one. But but Zone one is for coaches,
athletic directors, strength coaches. If you coach athletes, you coach
a team, if you're if you're a principal of the school,
and you want the best leadership development and personal development

(43:20):
for coaches, Zone one dot coach is the best place
to be There. There's a it's all voice voice recorded
notes for a journal. You get to record all your meetings.
And then it comes with and like you said, an
AI powered technology powered executive coach for coaches. So I
tried to do it. I've tried to build which we did.
We built essentially an executive coach version of me and

(43:41):
all of my training the last twenty years. I think
of it as I took my entire body of knowledge
in all of my life's work, and I was able
to build technology that can help you access it for
the things that you're dealing with. And we did. We
did a bunch of updates here this week. We can
talk about it next week, but we did a bunch
of updates this week on you can upload your entire
roster and your entire staff and get this. Rich upload

(44:04):
your roster and your staff. You can even upload recruits,
and when you speak voice notes, it will hear the
person you are talking about, and it will connect all
of your comments and all of the discussions you have
into a profile of that person in the system without
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is say their name. If I say Richmond Weaver, he's

(44:26):
uploaded in there. Every time I mentioned Richmond Weaver in
a meeting or a personal note, it'll send that info
into your profile and I can look at a month,
six months, two years worth of discussions around you to
help you with your own personal development or what was
I talking about with rich last week? So for coaches,
you can build profiles for players development, for players development
for your coaches. There's nothing like this on the market.

(44:49):
Nobody else is doing this, nobody else can right now.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, again, during the demo this past Saturday, blown Away
loved it, and again, kudos to you. I can't wait
to talk about it a little bit more next week.
We got to hit this break brother, We appreciate it,
my friend.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
Have a great weekend.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Yeah. That is Brian.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Kite, author of Dailydiscipline dot com. Make sure you go
check that out for the Daily Discipline newsletter. And I'm
telling you this Zone one dot coach. If you're a coach,
this is absolutely phenomenal. Now, Trey, I need to know,
do we have time or do I break or do
we we need to take it to the top of

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the hour. You have a little time, you can take
a break. Okay, We'll hit a break real quick. Much
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Speaker 3 (46:01):
All next hour.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Phone lines will be wide open, text line is going
to be open, all of that, and we're going to
dive into a little bit more of the conversation that
we had yesterday as we were referencing Larry Fitzgerald and
the fact that he played for one team and you
and I were talking about this, like the quarterbacks right

(46:24):
now and even some of the other stars quote unquote
stars that maybe their trajectory right now is on that
upward tick that okay, we could see them being on
a pathway to a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I mean there's some guys we already know they've already
eclipsed that pathway, like a Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
He's going to be a Hall of Famer, he just is.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
So I'm curious what players out there do we think
could just stay with one team.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (46:58):
I like that because I think it's very special that
you can stay with one team and have an illustrious
career like a Larry Fitzgerald did. I don't know if
somebody can stay with one team for seventeen years.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
That's a long time and this day and age of
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
And you know, we were talking about just the quarterbacks
that he played with. What I didn't realize is we
talked about the names. He actually had twenty two different
quarterbacks there in Arizona. She's insane.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
All right, We got to hit this break hour two
coming up next