S14, Ep. 26: Is It Too Much To Ask For Politicians To Look Out For Us For A Change?

On this Salcedo Storm Podcast:

Robert Montoya, investigative reporter for the Texas Scorecard.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
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You can handwrite the date, wow, and that count. This
is this horrible thing to say that they will remove
twenty five million people off the.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Roll shall signal Storm podcast? Is it too much to

(01:10):
ask that we hire elected officials to look out for us?
Is that just that they're supposed to look out for
we the people? Now? I am not anti corporation. I
am not anti business. I believe in business. I believe
in free enterprise, and I wholeheartedly support folks making an

(01:31):
honest buck. What I don't support is when you've got
individuals who are running companies who seek to use their
influence over government to use government officials that I hired
to look out for me to disadvantage me. Let me
give you an example. The Trader's Insurance companies. Traders insurance
companies came up with Obamacare and they forced me to

(01:54):
buy their product, a crappy version of their products, where
I had to load up all of these insurance policies
with stuff I wouldn't even use so somebody else could
get that stuff at a reduced costs or even for free.
That that's not my best interests. But that's the traitorous
insurance companies convincing your elected officials to go ahead and

(02:16):
cram that policy down our throats. There's another policy out
there that really has me scratching my head, and I
think that the governor of the Great State of Texas
has the right mindset here. It's surrounding data centers. Now
we need data centers. Let me just say, and I'll
reiterate that when we bring on our guests, but we

(02:36):
need to win the AI battle. And I've told you
guys repeatedly about my experience with AI. It's woke enough
as it is. Already a bunch of left wingers are
running the major AI outlets out there, and there's very
little competition in that space ideologically, to where if you're
a conservative, you're getting discriminated against by chat, GPT and

(02:58):
opens whatever the hell the Open AI or whatever the
parent company's name is. Claude and chat ebt. They discriminate
against those of us who have a conservative point of view.
They won't produce product if it has any inkling that
you're a conservative and you're trying to call leftists and

(03:19):
Marxist to the carpet. Right, So imagine that power of
AI in the hands of the communist world. That's the
reason why we have to win this battle, this AI battle,
and the data centers are going to be an integral
part of that. But that being said, all the folks
who are building these data centers, they have more money

(03:42):
than God, and I don't want to be forced by
government to finance that so that some other corporation can
make gobs and gobs of money off of the money
that is being brought to the individual states by the
individual rules these Silicon Valley type companies that are building

(04:04):
these data centers. In other words, there I know there
is an effort by government to force these these data
centers onto the grid. Why so the data centers can
pay electric rates so they can make bookoo bucks for
the electric companies. But you know what, the electric companies
have been so derelict and delinquent and upgrading their lines.

(04:26):
Are power distribution in the state of Texas, in particular,
with the Texas grid, the East Coast grid, the West
Coast grid, so dilapidated, so vulnerable to attack, whether it
be from a jihattist attack, a physical attack, or an
EMP or a naturally occurring EMP from a solar flare.
Everything is is so dilapidated. Why would any data center

(04:46):
want to bank their economic future on the unreliability of
the American grid Because the American grid has been allowed
to decay because of the aforementioned politicians who would be
selling us out if they pass law use mandating that
the individuals who run these electric companies they get to

(05:08):
charge all of us, we the people, to create an
infrastructure to force the data centers to use their energy.
I think Governor Abbott has the right mindset on this,
and we will we will discuss that with our guests.
But there's something else why I'm suspect of government. And
this is just one in the latest round of revelations

(05:31):
that we have found about the duplicity and the dereliction
of duty by the deep state the federal government. Declassified
FBI files exposed shocking Joe Biden Ukraine bribery scandal explosive,
explosive new FBI documents have exposed the Biden family shadowy

(05:53):
web of business dealings in Ukraine, revealing evidence of bribery
and conspiracy. The White House just declassified this information, folks,
and it was shocking. It was absolutely disgraceful and disgusting
what we found out. Our buddy Eric Daughtry on X,

(06:15):
writing about this bombshell files justly classified by the Trump administration,
find that the deep State had fourteen informants on Biden's
Ukraine corruption scandal, but secretly and clandestinely ran an effort
to dismiss everything as quote disinformation. It's a betrayal by

(06:36):
our intelligence agencies, a traitorous act by our intelligence agencies
to allow somebody who is well connected to get away
with crimes against our country because of how connected he was,
because he was a Democrat, Spy agencies with the FBI
formed a long list along political lines and marked Democrats,

(06:59):
including the Biden, as targets of Russian disinformation, while GOP
officials and conservatives were designated conduits of disinformation. This is
being reported by John Solomon of Just the News. The
deep State knows no bounds, writs Eric Daughtry, They protected
the Bidens. Keep exposing it all, says mister Daughtry. But

(07:19):
you know what, folks, I say, keep exposing it all
as well. But sadly, sadly, there are individuals in our
government on the other party, the Republican Party, who are
working diligently to protect those who did such great damage
to our country. We call them Republicans, and they are
the biggest fans of socialists and Marxist Democrats. And I

(07:41):
think it's wrong what they're doing, sacrificing us to basically
play kate and to glad hand with their uniparty pals,
the Democrats. And that's why I'm so disenchanted with this
alleged two party system that we have. We don't have one, folks.
We don't have a competition of ideas. We don't have
anybody looking out for us. We have Republicans looking out

(08:04):
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welcome on to the Salsado Storm Podcast. Our guest Robert Montoya,
investigative journalists for Texas Scorecard. Hey man, good to have
you back.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Thanks for having me here. Chris, Well, you.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
And I are going to be talking about something that's
been very much on my mind and it encompasses so
many things. The data center debate the status of our
grid and I can tell you East coast, West Coast
Texas grids are in a dilapidated state, and also what
government is trying to either save us from or force

(12:23):
us to do. So, why don't you lay out the
specific area that you want to discuss, Because Brandon Walton's
he was the one that asked Governor Abbott about this initially,
and about this this project to extend high voltage power
lines not to the public but out to the Permingam

(12:45):
basin where the energy is, which is crazy to me,
But go ahead, tell the folks where we are sure.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yes, Well, this has been quite a roller coaster ride,
it alright. It's it's been going on for quite a
while now. It's started with landowners starting to pop their
heads about getting some strange noses in the mail that
we heard reports they weren't even understanding, and then come
to find out like, oh wait a minute, all these
companies want to build these massive extra high voltage transmission

(13:15):
lines through my lawn. Not only have weeks to respond
to it, and we've been covering this since the beginning
of lannar is trying to protect their own private property rights.
I missed a program that is supposed to It's advertised
as trying to meet energy needs in the Permian Basin,
but as critics have said, look, there's a whole bunch

(13:35):
of natural gas in the Premium basin. Why don't we
just meet build local electric generation right there? Why are
we hauling all this power from East Texas into there?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
It makes a lot more sense. But see that's the problem.
We are focusing on diverting the scant power we have,
which we can barely keep the lights on now, out
to the Permian Basin where they are energy rich and
they have natural gas. So we should be building natural
gas power plants, which are negligible impact on the environment

(14:09):
and put Texans to work. But we're not doing that.
We are doubling and tripling down on stupid energy, frankly,
which is solar and wind, which is not at all reliable,
as I think you and I spoke about the last
time there was a solar wind farm in Texas that
was a solar farm rather, that was taken out overnight

(14:30):
by a hailstorm, one point three megawatts offline overnight. And
you know, not only does that do an environmental damage
with all of those solar panels having to go back
into the earth and that's very toxic, but then you
got to pay to replace them, which also does damage
to the environment. So none of this makes sense unless

(14:50):
you follow the money. What have you been able to
find out?

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Well, that's one of the concerns. State Center Kevin Sparks
has expressed. The legislature has been holding hearings on power
or this year. In one of those, it was reported
that Texas is expecting I think, by like around twenty
twenty nine to twenty thirty that about more than sixty
percent of our electric generation mix is going to be

(15:15):
wind and solar and batteries, and considering again, as you
mentioned and others have mentioned, looking at how unreliable these
energy sources are. That is potentially a very dangerous situation
put our state in and State Center Kevin Sparks is
worried right about whether not these transmission lines are just
gonna get flooded with even with a bunch of wind

(15:37):
and solar. That's a concern that even a state center,
Lowis col course has expect. Talking about how expiring tax credits,
it looks like these lines will be built just in
time for certain companies to benefit from them before they expire, right, And.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
It seems to be they want to get their hands
on this Obama money, this taxpayer money, to basically create
a grid that is not sustainable so they can cash in. Right.
And we'll get into the data center debate in a
second and discuss what's being talked about. But I want
to play the aforementioned Brandon Walton's SoundBite. He asked Governor

(16:14):
Grey Gabbott about this controversial proposed seven hundred and sixty
five killable transmission project and if it's going to move forward,
and here's what the governor had to say.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
So listen, here again, we need some guidelines and guardrails
on the expansion of power lines in the state of Texas.
I think that the PUC I understand correctly, they have
further actions to be taken on this. Nothing is imminent
on this right now, but I think that is up
to the PUC to make further announcements on this.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
So basically, he says, Robert, it's up to the PUC
to make further announcements on this, because I think the
governor recognizes what kind of a hot potato this is
that And here's another rub Who's going to pay for
the expansion of these transmission lines? And the answer is
rate we're going to see, according to the PUC and
the air cut documents I've seen on this, is that

(17:06):
we're going to see a half cent increase in already
sky high electricity prices in this state. Is that fair?

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Other people that have talked to that include the Texas
Public Policy Foundation. They're also saying, look, rate payers are
going to be bearing the cost of this, and Public
Policy Foundation as estimate that's going to have a lifetime
cost of one hundred billion dollars at this and at
least it seems like one hundred and fifty dollars annual
increase on your electric bill. And I've got a friend

(17:38):
whose electric bills like roughly seven hrdred bucks a month
right now. So it's interesting how this is all going
to just increase the cost for rate payers. We don't
know yet what kind of revenue increases it's going to
couse for transmission companies. And when I've talked to I
talked to one transmission company about another portion of this project,

(17:59):
and they're ar going, look, if we can socialize the
costs of these transmission projects, it's going to be more
affordable to do for Texans. But still increasing Texans utility bills.
There's not there doesn't seem to be a serious conversation
of how do we lower rate payers utility bills compared
to what they are today?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Right I'm I'm paying in the debt of summer seven
hundred sometimes eight hundred dollars a month because you know,
the geographic region in which I live in Texas has
been seeing nothing but triple digits as far as the
eye can see. So you're right, and this idea of
socializing the cost and then privatizing profit. You know, I

(18:45):
if they promised rate reductions after the project was over,
that it would lead to overall rate reductions, then maybe
you could convince enough Texans to get behind this. But
here's what the power companies and the PUC and are
cuts seem to be saying. You're going to continue to
pay out the nose so we can construct projects to
feed the data centers, so we can rake in not

(19:07):
only your money to finance the cost, then we can
really rake in the money as these data centers start
gobbling up and using energy. So there is no downside
for the power companies and there is no upside for
ratepayers as far as I can see.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
And we're calling back to you. Bring up Governor Greg
Abbotts quote. You know you talked about how we need
guidelines and guardrails on Transmission one expansion. A couple of
weeks ago, I was in Kenny County listening to officials
from there and in Uvaldi County, and they were expressing, how, look,
they're concerned that on the post transmission lines that's going

(19:46):
through their area, we'll create a freeway for Mexican cartels
to conduct activity. And also a Kinney county local official
in that area was said, look, we can't tell you
where to drill and not to drill for this power line.
That won't cause our only source of water to collapse.

(20:07):
And if you drill in the wrong place, we're gonna
have to bring in one hundred and twenty five ten
thousand gallons water trucks every single day. So this is
just another example of how these transmission lines, this proposed
project is just touching a lot of different areas that
are of concern to Texans.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Robert Montoya is our guest right now, folks, investigative journalist
at Texas Scorecard. So, folks that the eight hundred pound
guerrilla in the room. As data centers, the data centers,
I think we may have turned a corner on this
because there were a couple of these projects that were
sent to other states like Mississippi, who benefited wildly from

(20:50):
these data centers coming online. I mean, we're talking about
a state GDP that was around one hundred and sixteen
billion dollars, very very poor state that with the addition
of seven the seven data centers they lost from Texas,
it increased their GDP by eighty five billion a year,
almost taking in the from one hundred and sixteen nearly

(21:12):
two hundred billion. That's a huge increase just with seven
data centers. So and this is the scheme that I
believe the power companies are trying to pressure our lawmakers
into doing, is forcing these data centers to go onto
the grid so they can rake in cash because they're
going to gobble up a lot of power. Now, Greg

(21:33):
Abbott has charted the Governor has charted out what I
think is a perfect position on this. He has said, Look,
if you're going to come in as as a data center,
you've got to show you're going to you're gonna be
good stewards during construction. You're going to have to prove
that your facility won't be causing any noise pollution. You're
going to have to provide your own power, which was

(21:57):
key I thought, And because you guys have got the money.
And by the way, everything that the Governor just articulated
is exactly the position of all of these data center operators.
They don't want to be on the dilapidated Texas East
Coast or West Coast grid. They don't want to pay
the absolutely outrageous prices that are being charged to consumers.

(22:21):
They want to build their own generation that's reliable, you know,
natural gas likely, and they want to be able to
not to be good stewards and good neighbors to the
people of Texas, not to mention bringing all that money in.
I think the governors on the right side, at least
as far as his public pronouncements are concerned.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
What are you hearing, well, Republican leaders you don't like
Abbott and also President Trump, they've been clear that these
data centers need to bring their own energy to the
terrible you know, at a time when rape payers, you know,
like you and others, are seeing prices continuing to rise,
there are wholesale buyers enjoying drastically lower rates and you

(23:02):
know this offloaded risk. It puts data centers in what
the others are calling the bad neighbor conundrum. Now developers
can generate all of their power needs and then some
putting excess power back on the grid. That might help
with this image problem we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, as a matter of fact, if their investments lead
to real improvements, which, by the way, our elected officials
have punted on for many, many moons. They have refused
to update our power grids to reflect the needs of
Texans to secure those power grids, to make sure that

(23:39):
they are up to snuff. If you watch the documentary
Grid Down, Power Up, you folks will know what I
mean and how dangerous having a dilapidated grid that we
currently have is. If they get this done, we may
be looking at some sort of tangible benefit. You're right
that public relations wise, these data centers which are suffering

(24:01):
from I believe communist China propaganda that these data centers
can overcome. So I think it's I think if you
and I are looking at this from a consumer perspective
and a Texan perspective, is the rates are already too high.
Our energy emphasis in this state is absolutely bast awkwards.

(24:23):
We should not be developing solar, We should not be
developing wind. We should be developing reliable natural gas to
not only sell natural gas to keep our people our
energy industry working, but also it needs to be reliable,
right You need to be able to turn that light
switch on and have a light come on.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Yes, as you said right there, Chris. I mean, when
we look at this transmission project, it seems a lot
like it's treating the symptom and ignoring the disease. We've
been hearing that people like State Center Sparks are saying
that just our mark, the entire regulatary structure of Texas

(25:02):
is incentivizing the unreliable power sources like wind and solar
and disincentivizing reliable sources like natural gas. And doctor Brent Bennett,
the Texas Public Policy Foundation, He's like, look, unless we
fix the problem, which is our entire structure and reform
the market, we're still going to have issues and that

(25:24):
needs to be the focus. And I think we start
having that conversation, maybe then we can start talking about
how do we lower rate payers month to month utility
bills on electricity?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah? And you know when you ask lawmakers or policy makers,
when you ask, hey, you know, why do we continue
even after two hundred and fifty Texans paid with their lives,
Why do we continue to emphasize a form of energy
that we all now have it confirmed isn't ready for

(25:58):
primetime nor will it ever be ready for prime time
and continue to shove aside reliable power generation like natural gas.
Somebody's making money somewhere? Is it all from the Obama money?
The federal stuff? Is that where it's coming from.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
I'm not done deep dive on all of the incentives,
but I can tell you this is that you know
some things. Some reports I've read is that seems the
way the grid is managed, it just incentivizes using solar
and wind instead of building natural gas. And I've heard
complaints that the way the structure is set up, you
can't make a profit building natural gas generation. So these

(26:37):
are issues. We will see if the Texas legislatoris take
this up. So far, they they've expressed their interest and
with attend Governor Dan Patrick's asking the puc hey deny
all these pending applications. They want to take up the
approval process where landowners have been complaining about how they
were improperly noticed and how they've just been kind of

(26:58):
left out of this process. Lawmakers want to take that up.
They've not yet stayed an interest in reforming the market.
We will see if they do at some point.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Okay, and again I I just I don't understand that,
And maybe you can tell me who you were talking to,
because the idea that you can't make money off a
natural gas power plant, that doesn't make any sense to me.
Because see, let's say you're building a naturally you're a

(27:33):
power company, right, you build a natural gas power plant, right,
So you've got this natural gas power plant coming online.
It costs you with materials, let's just say three cents
of killowat hour. Right, it costs you as a power
company three cents of kill a wat hour, and so
you charge six. How are you not making money? All

(27:55):
it's going to do is I don't understand how you
cannot make money off of natural gas. You're gonna get
your normal markup if your base material is costs less.
I suspect what we're seeing here is a bunch of
this Obama money that was set aside, billions and billions
and billions of dollars set aside in the federal government

(28:17):
to incentivize a loser economy, a loser, unreliable economy, which will,
you know, which will further socialism, for further communism. And
these people are getting this tax payer funded gift while
the getting's good, right before these subsidies go away. And

(28:38):
that seems to be my sense is there is there
a deep dive coming up from from you guys at
Texas Scorecard about following the money. Who's making what.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
These this situation, these questions like how is it that
National gas generators reporedly can't make money? These raised questions
about if there should be like a full thorough investigation
of just how screwed up our regulatory structure is in
Texas and how much responsibility does the federal government bear
on all this. I mean, President Trump is not going

(29:11):
to be president forever and who only the Lord Jesus
Christ knows who's going to be president after him? So
will there be discussions about how do we in Texas
reform the market structure of electricity here and how do
we steal man our states so that way the Feds
cannot just easily disincentivize reliable power while elevating unreliable power

(29:35):
that would put Texans at risk, according to those who
criticize these power sources.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, and remember, I think I told you this story
a long time ago. It was up in Fort Worth
where an individual in the city council. This was a
local ordinance they were voting on and they were being
asked to make sure that if you're bringing new power online,
that it was reliable. It was in the wake of
the Snowmageddon tragedy and one of the city council members

(30:04):
was told somebody who was in was pushing for reliable energy. Sorry,
I can't vote for that, to which he was asked,
why can't you, he said, because my neighbor gets all
this Obama money, right, and I don't want to screw
over my neighbor. So I'm I'm willing. In translation, he
didn't say this, but this is the translation. I'm willing

(30:26):
to put Texas lot Texans lives at risk just so
my neighbor can continue to get his rebulttlemits on Obama money,
on federal dirty money. And I think that's where your
investigation might lead you. That's an anecdotal. That's anecdotal, but
I think it's going to be something that will bear

(30:47):
fruit if you look into it.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
What do you think, Well, I think there's also another
aspect in this, and that is, you know, corregs. We're
saying that the Public Utility Commission and are Coat as
well as one of the electricity company, is that they
took what lawmakers intended as a regional reliability directive and
transformed this massive project without any lawmaker approval. And it

(31:13):
was in July that the top regulator pucked chairman Thomas
Gleeson admitted to senators that, yes, you didn't explicitly mandate
this project. We went ahead and chose this option of
building these CS transmission line.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Dude, that's another avenue of investigation. How does the PUC
where do you get that authority? They didn't have the
legal authority to greenlight this. It's just being done because, hey,
it's a lot easier to pay off. I'm not suggesting anything,
I have no evidence, but if you were trying to
just shove through a project, it's easier to pay off

(31:50):
somebody in a government agency than it is to pay
off an entire legislature. Right, So I'm not suggesting that
that's at play here. I'm just saying that we've seen
this kind of crooked attitude from government agencies and I'm sorry, man,
government agencies without any oversight are running a muck, not
just in the state of Texas, but on the federal

(32:10):
level too, And I think I think as you guys
continue to dig, you'll find that out. Robert Montoya, folks,
he is the investigative journalist for Texas Scorecard. Buddy, appreciate
the conversation. As always, keep us posted, will.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
You absolutely will and everyone pay attention because August fourteenth,
the PUC is going to be meeting to discuss these
pending transmission lines. They say they're not going to make
a final decision, but they're going to discuss this, so well,
we will see what they do.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I hope you can get on the docket to ask
some questions. That'd be great if you guys can register
to get public comment and you guys get to ask
a question, that would be very cool. Thanks, Robert, appreciate
you and my friends. I appreciate all of you for
dipping into the salsadle Storm podcast, whether you're downloading it
or just watching it or listening to it on your
various apps. Always appreciate the audience it's been growing. And

(33:02):
I just can't tell you how thankful I am about that.
And by the way, if you would do me a
couple of favors, the first favor is tell your friends
about the Salcedo Storm podcast. The second favor is pick
up the new book, The Rise of the Liberty Loving
Latino a New American Revolution audiobook form and in hardcopy
at Amazon dot com. And remember this, a society's worth

(33:25):
is not measured by how much power is stolen by
an out of controlled government. A society's worth is measured
by how much power is reserved for you and me,
we the people. You keep fighting to save your country
out there, my friends, because it's worth it.