Creator Podcast- Musician & Social Media Creator Jake Sousie (Audio Only)

In this podcast we speak to Jake Sousie about his content and how he acccumulated 2.2 Milion followers. He talks about his background in Music and some funny stories about making his content.


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All right, welcome back to theTeary Lucie Twins podcast. Yea, our
next guest has two point two millionfollowers on TikTok plays music and you probably
know him as Jake Boss or withan extra e in there, Jake e
Boss, which he'll explain later whathappened. So let's welcome Jake Susy,

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welcome on. Thank you ocome On, You're welcome. Yeah again, thanks
for coming on. We really appreciateit. You know, we we've seen
some of your posts and stuff andit it caught our interest and of course
you helped us with getting set upon How do you say it? Is
it omegal or omego megal? Ithink it's Omegael, but I've always called

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it omgel, so I've been missing, yeah this whole time. Okay,
we always call it omegel. Imean, in my opinion, it sounds
better that way. Yeah, untilI realized on the actual website they have
the pronunciation written in like big boldletters, and I just ignore it apparently.
Yeah, I feel like anything goeson that at that place, you

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know, Yes, but the thingsthat I that's enough talking about them.
Yeah, but yeah, so,um, I guess just getting started.
Um, you know, I guessgive us a good idea of the content
or the audience a good idea ofthe content that you make, and um,
you know kind of where where everythinggot started. Yeah, so,

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um, I do uh piano contenton omegal So basically it's like the random
video chat thing, so random peoplepop up, they see my setup,
they request a song or I Ilike play songs based on the season,
and I tried to get content fromthere. Yeah yeah, no, it's

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it's um. I saw I sawsome of your videos of course, and
it was pretty interesting. What isthat. It's like a almost like a
guitar, but it's a keyboard.Oh yeah, that's my keytar right here.
That thing is pretty cool. Itseems complicated, but I'm sure for
you you're pretty used to it,right Yeah. I was like I wanted

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to start doing more like solo typethings. Don old Megael and I was
like, I've never seen anybody havea key tar on that site before,
because apparently there's another pianist or acouple of pianists and I didn't know that,
so I thought I was the firstone making piano Amicael content. So
when I got that, it waslike an attempt of something more regional,

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and I don't know how to playthe electric guitar very well, so I
just got this to kind of cheat. Yeah, that is that is really
cool. Um, I guess itdoes relate more to a piano, so
it was it easy. It waseasier to pick up than like obviously a
different instrument. So it's just likethe same thing as playing a piano,
but I can bend notes with myother hand like a good hardwood Okay,

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okay, that makes sense. Ohthat's really and it looks awesome. So
yeah, no, it definitely caughtmy eye when I saw it, I
was like, wait, what isthat. I don't think I've ever seen
that before. I think that's likea natural hook, just like on the
videos, like everyone's like what isthat? Mm hmmm. I have some
videos in the works of doing likeanime intros. It's like making tracks for

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it and then and then like usingthe anime tag on omegal So I'm excited
for those videos to come out.Fingers cross they do well. Yeah,
yeah, I definitely think those willbe a hit. Really yeah, so,
um, what kind of I guessthat that brings up a question of

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mine, what kind of like musicdo you usually focus on or what did
you like learn UM originally or whatwhat's your interest for the music genre.
So, growing up, I wasclassically trained from like age seven to fourteen,
and then my family moved from Maineto Washington and I just kept self

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teaching because at the time my goalwas to become a classical pianist. And
I ended up joining like a youthorchestra in the area, and I realized
I did not like performing classical musicon stage. The pressure was insane.

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So I ended up switching to UMcomputer science later down the line, and
that's where I got my degree in. And so I just used music for
fun, so like pop music,anything popular, like TikTok audios that I'm
always trying to learn the next newthing. So I still dabbling a little
bit of classical, but my mainis just like contemporary music. Okay,

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okay, would you say that startingout the classical way, is is that
more complicated or is that is thatjust a more pressure just because everyone has
such a high standard for it.That's the thing. It was, like
the high standard for it, ittook the fun out of playing for me,

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Like that's not probably the case foreverybody, but it just wasn't for
me, Like I didn't like havingto feel like so many people relying on
me to hit this queue or orkeep tempo for somebody. So right,
yeah, I just wanted to havethat fun freedom. But since I was
classically trained, I was able totake like pop music and make it my

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own. And that's kind of whatI've put into my channel. So if
I never did any of that,then I wouldn't be able to do the
things that are doing on my channel. So it kind of worked out right.
Okay, So, so you startedmaking music early on or I guess
I forget. I don't know ifyou mentioned what age did you start making
music and how did that kind ofprogress? So I started probably when I

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was like four or five because mydad had a keyboard and he would play
for me, and I thought itwas the coolest thing and I just wanted
to be like dad. So Iwanted to take piano lessons, and then
finally when I was seven, myparents found a teacher because I was just
begging them like every day, likeI just want piano lessons. I want
to learn how to play, andso that's where that started. Okay,

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cool. So when did you endup starting like on like social media,
Like did you start on TikTok?Yes? I started on TikTok in around
twenty nineteen, so, like thewhole COVID thing was just picking up.
I was still in college and Ialways wanted to be a content creator of

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some sort since I was younger.But I thought that that was like not
a reachable goal because I tried likethe whole YouTube thing, and I was
editing for like fifteen hours to getsixty views, and I was like,
this isn't even worth the time becauseI got homework, I got things to
do. But one day I keptgetting ads for TikTok when I was watching

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YouTube while I was cleaning the house, and I was like, okay,
I'll get it, just to trythe speed up filter thing, and I
made a TikTok It was like thein the the Johnny Johnny Yes Papa era
of TikTok Oh. So I usedthat audio and my video got like fifteen

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hundred views. And at that moment, I was like, I'm gonna count
with zero followers and I just gotfifteen hundred views. I need to figure
out how to use this app,like I was googling, I was youtubing,
but there was not a lot ofinformation at the time, so I

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just kind of had to make itup as I go. And that's when
I was doing gaming content. Ionly chance positioned into UM my main platform
around like three hundred and eighty thousandfollowers. I pivoted because it wasn't what
I wanted to do. I wantedto do music the whole time, but
I felt trapped in that like gamingniche right, Yeah, I think that's

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true for a lot of people,is that they're kind of afraid to change
what's working. You know, ifit's working like pretty well, you don't
want to just mess up the audiencethat you already have, you know.
Yeah, which I mean you didseemingly well because you went from three hundred
thousand, three hundred eighty thousand totwo point two million, you know,
millions. So um, I mean, was there like any roadblocks or any

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any drops like immediately or yeah?There were there were a couple. I
remember when UM there was the bigonly fans praise and people were promoting the
only fans on TikTok, and TikTokdid not like that. So I always

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had a link in my bio thathad something that said only fans, and
when people would click it, itwould rick roll them. It would bring
them to YouTube and rick roll them. And I have a little counter that
shows how many people click that button. And I made a video that was
showing that number, and I said, y'all need to settle down, and

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I wrote hashtag funny, hashtag onlyfans. Hash That was my mistake,
writing hashtag only fans because I've neverhad any like offense on TikTok. But
they gave me a weak band whenI was like in my prime of like
trying to grow Wow dang, Andit was for a joke. It was

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like, nay, I was like, I don't even really haven't only fans.
It was I was pretending to haveone so I could show people that
number. Yeah, that's that's kindof crazy. I didn't know that they
took it that serious because I knowthey didn't like people going you know,
they don't like directing people off oftheir app, which is smart m So

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you know, I feel like thereis a thing where if you say Lincoln
bio or you know, pay attention, like you know, you try to
direct people to it, they shutdown those views so you don't take people
off the app. But I didn'tknow that. I didn't know that whole
thing about Um. I guess they'retrying to make it like keep it like
PG. Thirteen. Yeah, they'repretty critical on that too, because now

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that I've noticed that they don't,they like blur out certain links they try
to come back. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of crazy.
Um. You know, I dofeel that TikTok is the best app
for growth, but it's also verymonitored. Like it's very, very hard
to feel comfortable on that app withoutlike you're always worried that for any moment

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they can put a strike on youraccount or ban you like you said,
or anything like that. Yeah.I have to watch my Omegael videos like
a hawk when I'm editing, becauseif there is a singular beer can in
the background of someone's video, andif that person looks underage, like even
if it Dana belonged to them,I get flagged for that. That's happened

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to me before because these these girlsthey were they were in college, they
were drinking on Omegael, but TikTokthought they were children and thought it was
like give an alcohol to minors,and I was like, I'm playing the
piano. That's that's what I write. When I appeal on my stuff,
I'm like, just watch the videothe Craziest Ones, or when I get

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taken down for sexual activities when whenthere was like nothing of the sort that
could even be taken that way,I'm like, I am playing Koca Melon
on the piano. What more doI need from you guys? Yeah,
I think they do have like anautomated I don't even know if the appeals,
I don't even know if a personis looking at the appeals. I

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feel like it's just all automoted,which the app would be so much better
if they actually hired people. Iknow it'd be a lot more expensive for
them, but you know they havethe money to make it that way.
It would I think it would bevirtually impossible to hire enough people because there's
billions of videos being uploaded every everycouple of minutes. Because I was thinking

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the same thing and I ended uplooking up about it, and I'm like,
that's why they can't hire people.But they need to make some kind
of better automation. Because even whenI appealed my my weak band. They
said, oh yeah, are bad, but then I was still banned for
those seven days, so it's likethey took the strike off, but I'm

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still punished, Like you just toldme that I was I was right,
and then you keep the band onme. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind
of crazy too, because we um, like we posted because we went live
and we had a goal and ifwe said, you know, if we
accomplished that goal, we said we'ddo like an ice bucket challenge type thing,

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and then um, we did it. We posted the video. It
was like doing really well, andthen they decided it was dangerous so they
like took it down. And thenafter they were like like we we appealed
it. You know, we wentthrough that and then like I think,
I don't know if it's the sameday or day after or something. They're

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like, oh, like you know, they fixed it, but then it
just like didn't do anything, Likethe video didn't go anywhere. So it's
like it yeah, they said itwas like dangerous activities because I guess I
don't know if you or water.Yeah, yeah, so I don't they
said that. So it was youknow, it was catching the four you
page pretty quickly and then of course, when they take it down and then

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put it back up, it stallsit so it doesn't go back to the
four you page really, so itjust gets stuck at whatever. It's like,
oh yeah, our bad sorry,like I'm not going to bring a
video out right. And that's whatmakes it really hard to like want to
continue putting so much time into likea platform like that, because you never

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know, like for any reason,they could just take your stuff down right
right right, and like it stilloccurs after the fact, Like I think
that's still damaged our account to anextent, you know, so it hurts
our views in the future too.Yeah. I think they put like some
kind of like shadow band warning,like after they send you a warning or
a band. I think they doshadow bandits some like for a period of

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time or maybe even permanently. Idon't know how it works, to be
honest. Yeah, it's probably usuallyshadow bands are like three days to a
week the ones that I've noticed,But they're for the dumbest things. M
Yeah, I agree, it's now. I guess that that like is that's

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why it's so important to have um, you know, work on other social
media content um for you know,different platforms, whether it's YouTube, Instagram,
even Facebook. Sometimes do you,um, I guess how much content
do you put out on each ofthose and how does your content kind of
differ for each of those platforms.So I mainly just post the same videos

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that I have on my TikTok andI just posted on YouTube Instagram just the
same stuff. But on YouTube,I edit my my clips a little bit
longer. So when I'm making mytiktoks, I try to have my TikTok's
like little ads form the YouTube videofor the long form content, and that's
what I'm going to be trying thisyear lot. But with Snapchat and everything

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else, it's just the same,the same videos. I don't do any
exclusive content on any other platform besidesYouTube with the long form content. Okay,
okay, So for Snapchat, haveyou found that the views are good?
Because for us, it just willsit at like thirty views, like
it won't go anywhere. Okay,this is what I don't understand because a

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lot of my friends that are contentcreators, when they post on Snapchat,
they're always in the millions of views. But I'm right with you, guys,
and I'm I get like sixty,but The craziest thing is I've had
someone steal one of my videos postit on Spotlight. He got millions of

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views. He probably got around liketen grand for that video. Oh my
gosh. During the that's when spotwhen Instagram was doing like a million dollars
a day. But I wrote Snapchatabout it. I was like, can
you take this down or maybe giveme the money? And they said they

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can't do anything. I should justblock him. Wow, And I thought
that was crazy, that that's that'sthe answer. So I just posted on
Instagram for a bunch of my friendsto try to go to report it.
And I never know. I neverknew if it got taken down and that
guy just raked in a bunch ofmoney that it was from my video.

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Yeah, and then I post himand like you said, you get like
thirty views. Yeah, I don't. I don't understand that. To be
honest, Um, I know Snapchatcan be very tough, but um,
because there's so many people are youknow, posting to it. But that's
that is funny though, that yousay that the person got like a ton
of views off of a video ofyours, Because we actually had not too

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long ago, we had Max EmersonTaylor on and he said someone used his
sound on TikTok and would just everyday post the video with his sound and
get like more views than him,and he he gets a ton of views
too, So he's like, thisguy's just literally making he has like a
ton of followers is just off ofhis sound. And I think it's the

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vape, Like, um, ohis this a vape? No something like
that, Like I forget what.Yeah, so yeah, it was.
Yeah, It's crazy how they cankind of reap the benefits without you know,
you getting any benefit of that.You know, obviously if your sounds
attached to it, you get sometraffic. But yeah, but still,

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which is weird because now nowadays it'slike, um, you can either stitch
someone's video or you can like um, you know, use their sound or
what or remake it in some way. And it's like, uh, you're
allowed to kind of steal their contentbasically, but yeah, basically, I
mean it's it's weird now because youcan copy that original content, whereas whereas

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you wouldn't be able to be forlike with with using their sounds or like
remaking videos in some way mm hmm. Because once people see something that works,
they either well, like you said, like recreated exactly, or blatantly
rip you off. Some of myfriends we actually help each other out because
we're like, if we have avideo that does well, like some kind

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of trend thing, we say,blatantly steal it off of us, like
just to help each other grow.I've I've had people. At first,
I didn't understand like it was likestarting a trend. I just felt like
people were stealing my idea because Idid a TikTok and it was like that

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episode of Friends where one of themis teaching one franch But I made this
whole skit about like one of yourgaming partners pushing or something without thinking or
something like that, and some dudecopied my video exactly, like he put
the text on the screen exactly whereI had it and broke it down.

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But I didn't realize because then Imade a video like kind of calling him
out in a joking way because Ireally didn't care. But um, I
noticed that that sound was full ofpeople making that same template that I made,
So I'm like, oh, didI just start a trend and didn't
get ripped off? And now Ifeel bad because they called this guy out.

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But yeah, so it's crazy.Once people find that format, they
just they just control see control vright, Yeah, yeah, as soon
as they see something that works,they like to mimic it. And I
don't know, do you do youfeel like that, Um, that kind
of hurts the like Obviously there's alot of different ideas on TikTok, but
do you think that kind of makeseveryone go for the same type of content?

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Kind of? I think so untilyou find your niche, because I
feel like you only use those audioswhen you're trying to trend on the forty
you page when you're a little account, But after that you can start doing
original audios because that's what I did. All I did was popular audios that

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I saw on the fort you page, and I would twist it to the
gaming niche. And I did thatuntil I built the following and I was
like, okay, and I'm goingto try to sprinkle in some original content.
And luckily for me, the firstone that I did got half a
million views, so I was like, Okay, this is what I do
now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's really good. So I

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guess, yeah, take us backto what I guess. Um, what
year was it, and what wasthe first video that kind of went viral
that you were like, Okay,you know I can make this, uh
you know my content? Okay,So are you talking about like my channel

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in general, like the first videothat went viral, or are you talking
about like my piano after pivoting.Yeah, i'd be I'd be interested to
hear both, like both waves ofthe you know what scot viral and what
your thought process was and then youknow when your music started. Yeah,
more more information the better. Yeah. So, even before I got into

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the gaming niche, I was justposting random things that I was seeing on
the fo you page to see whatworked. And there was a sound about
like an angel talking to God andthen him telling them, oh they ate
the apple, and then God goeswhat. So what I did with that
is I have a I have ajoint disease ailer Stanlos syndrome, So I

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have lots of problems with literally everyjoint in ligament in my body. So
I was making I had one ofthose art puppets, the little wooden ones,
but mine was broken so it's armwould fall off. But if I
put it on here, it lookedlike he was a little little guy,
and so I said, this isGod making my joints. And then when

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the angel said they ate the apple, I made God say what and it
rips the arm off and that gotI think, like sixty thousand views and
that was huge for me. SoI just kept posting tons more videos while
that one was going around. Butthat was like my first one that I

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think even went past ten k,like it was a big deal. And
that's when I got a big,a big jump and followers too. Okay,
yeah, that's that's uh Like onceyou get to get into the tens
of thousands for your first time,like that's like like, okay, I
see the potential here, you know. Yeah, especially when you're just starting
up, you're like, oh mygosh, this is like life changing,

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you know. Yeah. So howlong I guess how long after that did
did you switch to music content?And what was like what was the timeframe
of it going, like your musiccontent going viral from that period? So
I did the gaming content for probablyabout a year and then I posted I

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just wanted to see what would happenif I posted an omegaal video. I
just threw one together. I wenton a megal for a couple of minutes,
and the first one I ever didgot half a million views. And
then I tried to go back togaming, and the gaming content was not
doing well, getting two thousand andthree thousand views. I went back to
piano content. I'm getting in thehundred thousands again, so I'm like,

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wow, okay, they're actually likingwhat I like to post. So I
was like, this is my chanceto pivot, because this is what the
people are wanting to see apparently.So then I stopped posting gaming stuff after
a couple of days after the originalone went viral. Okay, yeah,

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that's that's good. Yeah, it'sit's good that it like worked out for
your best interest, like what youwere interested in got more views, you
know, because that's like that's likethe perfect scenario. It's like idea.
Yeah. So I was, um, I was just posting that that piano
content, and then I was gettingdiscouraged because not all of them were performing

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like those big ones, and Iwas getting really discouraged. I didn't want
to go and record more footage becauseit is very exhausting, like it will
drain your social battery, trying tobe upbeat for every single person for like
six hours, like I usually filmlike from four to six hours at a
time. I need to probably shortenthat. Um where was I going?

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Now? That's it was? That'son omegel? Yeah, be on Omegel
just for those I've had to cutit down because it was it was too
much. But um, oh,what was I saying I was talking about?
I guess yeah, to pick youup where you left off, I
think you were saying, um,that you're draining or you were filming for

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like four to six hours per dayand you said it was getting kind of
draining, so you cut it back. But I think you were I think
you were talking about um. Yeah, I don't I don't know. I
remember, I remember I was.I wasn't filming for a while because I
was discouraged, so I was runningout of footage to edit. So I

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was scraped in the bottom of thebarrel of my footage and I found one
clip that I thought was kind offunny. It was just these these two
girls and I was playing, um, I think like Veggie Tales music or
something. But that video, forsome reason, blew up and it was

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my biggest video ever, and itwas I think it's at twenty six million
views. Oh wow. And thiswas when it was blowing up. I
got a million views in like tenminutes, and yeah, I was I
was thinking to myself, this isthe this is the moment I need to
do something because I was getting followers, followers, followers. So what I

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did was all that giant video wasblowing up, I went live for an
hour in the morning and an hourat night, just playing piano, and
each one of those lives I gotlike twenty thousand more followers in the process.
So that's when I hopped up fromfive hundred k to one point seven.
No, no, no, onepoint two. So I went from

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five hundred k to one point two. And then just a month after,
a video with those same girls,just a different clip I posted blew up
and that took me to one pointseven and then just as time went on,
I finally trickled up to two pointtwo. But it's just those couple
videos got me all the way upthere. Yeah, that's crazy. I

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was like, I need to doa reunion video because that's what I was
gonna say, Like, I needto find these girls again because every video
blows up because I think they're liketheir friendship chemistry was was really good.
So I guess people like watching thatand their reactions to each other. Yeah,
I feel like too um TikTok kindof picks out like faces. I

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feel like it is so advanced thatit'll see like it'll recognize someone's face and
if you even if someone looks similarto like someone big on the app,
like Charlie Demilio or something like that, it'll I think it will pick up
on that and just push that tothe for you page. I think that's
also because the like the comments andlike they just blow up there like they
always say like the person that theylook like or try to roast them or

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something too. Well, I neverthought of that now in all my videos,
I'm just gonna hold signs of likeCharlie Damelio's face and stuff you could
that might that might work. Yeah, that's um, that's interesting though.
That that that's crazy though. Twentysix million. Um did you find that

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did you have your your like yourInstagram and stuff like that linked to that
to your account at that time?Yes, And I don't know why I
could not convert any of them.Okay, yeah, that was gonna be
my next question, Like how howdo you get people to I guess unless
it's like exclusive part of the content, how do you get people to follow

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you on another platform? You now, I feel like that's the struggle.
Still haven't figured it out. Ihave like thirty five hundred followers on Instagram
and I don't understand, Like Ihave two point two million followers, and
not even half of them click theInstagram button just to look, just to
see what was on there. Imean, like I always check people's Instagram

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things because it's there. Like,but I wonder if it's the age of
my audience, because I think Ihave a younger audience range, probably like
fifteen to like twenty, like earlytwenties. I think that's my age range
of my video. So maybe theydon't. I don't care as much.

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Do you think Do you think likemusic is generally like a younger target audience.
I think so. But I rememberat the beginning, I would just
have a bunch of middle aged womenon my on my account for a while,
so I was on like mom TikTokwith all the music stuff. I
think once I started playing more modernmusic on omegall then I started getting to

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a different audience. But it wasreally weird for a while, the comments
that I would get, that's funny, what kind of just curiosity? What
kind of comments would you get?They were just like flirtatious ones, and
I'm like, And then when Iwould go alive, I would see some
of them join And there was onewoman she would always send me a bunch

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of gifts and it was and shewould leave a bunch of comments and it
was kind of weird and I feltbad. But ever since my type of
music changed, I haven't seen anymore of those comments or lord gifts.
So do you go? Do yougo live a lot too? Ah?

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Not anymore? I need to becauseI ended up ordering something to get the
sound of my piano onto TikTok becauseTikTok launched their own stream key service.
Like, I don't know, doyou guys have one of those yet?
Are you saying the TikTok studio oris that it? Yeah? I think
so were? You can stream fromyour computer? Yeah, So we haven't

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applied to get it. Well,I think we did. I don't know
if we ever looked at it,but we might have to just reapply for
it again. Yeah, yeah,because I've been fighting tooth and nail to
try to get one, and evenagencies can't get them for me because they
say, with people over a millionfollowers, they can't give you one.

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You have to get it from TikTok, and I don't know how to get
one from TikTok. I used togo live using a website called Lula dot
tv or whatever, and I couldscream from my PC to my phone.
But when TikTok started launching their wholetheir own scream key, I went live
from Lula and they shut my livedown and I didn't get a man.

(32:22):
I didn't like. They just shutit off, and I was like,
Okay, they don't want us usingLula anymore. Because what people were doing
was they were taking they were recordingInstagram lives of like Billaport or The Rock
and then using their computer to streamthat back to TikTok and just generating money

(32:44):
from kids that think that it's therethat they're actually talking to like a celebrity.
So I think that's why they're reallypicky about who they give a scream
key too. But I've seen likeaccounts with two thousand followers screaming from a
PC, and I'm like, howdid this happen like I applied on that
Google form like three times. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if if you

(33:08):
made like a backup account just togo live with and got it to a
thousand, if you could work withthe agency through that, because I think
that is another like kind of workaround the system. Yeah. Oh,
that's a good idea. Yeah,so um, and it would kind of,
I guess, be a little bitbetter so you're not worried about anything
affecting your main account. That's kindof what we're going to plan on doing

(33:34):
is we do want to do somestuff from our computer, like with our
cameras and stuff. So we dowant to get our backup to a thousand
and then just stream like try toget the stream key to for the studio
and go live through there for Idon't know, some more. You know
it's better quality, Yeah exactly.It's like we spend all this money on
all this equipment to make good videosand then when we can't go live with

(33:55):
it. I got I thought Ihad it on my desk, But it's
a it's a rolland it's like alittle interface and you can plug it into
your phone and at least you canuse I can use all my audio equipment,
so that means they can get theraw sound of my keyboard and all

(34:16):
of that. So I'm just gonnago live that way until you get a
stream key because I think it's reallyimportant to be going live and I just
haven't been able to. Yeah right, yeah, no, I agree,
I think. And the crazy partis that live wasn't really that big of
a thing until probably the start oflast year, like yeah, very recent,

(34:36):
like a year ago. You know, they really started pushing people to
watch lives. Yeah, it's true. I mean it's become one of the
biggest things. A lot of peoplestill don't know about it, but but
I think that's what everyone's kind ofpushing towards. Hmm. I think TikTok

(34:57):
always wants is they try to pusha feature even if people aren't using it.
So I think they're really trying tostill push lives, like the whole
TikTok now thing. Do you guyseven use TikTok now? Oh? Oh
you mean, like yeah, i'dlike to be a real thing. We
used it like once, yeah,see I used it once and then I

(35:17):
was like, this is kind ofthis kind of dumb. But every time
I'm on my for you page,like every other video is one of those
now things and it's like, oh, you can't see this unless you post
one, and I'm like, Ijust want to watch videos please. I
feel like they always try to shovelike that kind of stuff, like their

(35:39):
whatever feature that they want to besuccessful. Yeah, it's true, and
I think they just wanted to likeforce. They saw be Real as like
a threat, So I think theyjust wanted to be like, oh,
we have this technology, you know, you guys don't need to get be
real, you know, something likethat. Yeah, you like, just
like when they added the Instagram likeworries, yeah, right, which I

(36:04):
don't. Yeah, they don't.They don't really seeing the stories isn't really
that easy on TikTok. You know, you have to be kind of on
a like profile already. Yeah.Yeah, I posted one and got like
a thousand views on it, andI'm like, oh, so I guess
they don't put these out. Yeah, you know, it's it's very it's
very strange how they'll have like contentavailable like different forms and they don't really

(36:30):
push it out consistently. You know. It's like kind of here and there
other than we have no incentive touse their new stuff right right, and
then like with the h with thestories, even because even most of your
content doesn't go to your followers,you know, still, so it's like
I don't even know if the storiesare going to your followers or where it's

(36:52):
going mhm. And that's funny yousay that because when I tried to tell
people like how to be successful onTikTok, I say, like, don't
post the content for like the mainfollower base. You need to post for
the four you page. So youwant to make content that's going to do

(37:15):
well in the four you page soyou get more people. Then you can
worry about policing this group of peopleonce you build them up. Yeah,
I think even exactly, only likea small percentage of the people that are
already following you are like see thevideo, you know, it's like mostly,
like you said, pushed out tothe four you page. Hm,

(37:36):
it's usually like over fifty percent justfour you page my videos when they do
well, Yeah, which is socrazy to me because I feel like that's
also that could also be a reasonwhy people don't follow as much, because
they're already again on that they wantto watch all the for you page,
So it's like, why would Ifollow you know? Exactly? Yeah,

(38:00):
yeah, and um, I guessI kind of I'm curious of if they
would ever go to more of astructure like what Instagram does where you see
you're following first, like the peopleyou follow first. But then again,
I guess they have that tab ofwhere you can switch from following to for
you page. Yeah. Do youguys even use the following page because I'm

(38:22):
usually just on the four you pagethe whole time. Yeah, same,
yeah, same, um, becausethey pretty much put people we're falling on
the four you page anyway, onyour four you page every once in a
while, so it's like that,so you get the best of both worlds.
Yeah exactly. It's doing well.I'm gonna see it anyway. Yeah,

(38:42):
we don't want to see our friendslow performing videos. We just want
to see the viral one, yeahexactly. We want we want to know
how how to do it or wewant to go viral exactly. Yeah.
So, um, I did wantto when you were saying you were plug
gonna plug in your keyboard for thelives, I, um, I have

(39:07):
seen a lot of musicians that dothat, and they plug in their keyboard
and they'll play music and stuff andit's actually really engaging, like I'll watch
I'll watch it on the live andyou know it like if people put in
song requests, it's it's interesting,you know, I'm curious of what they're
gonna they're gonna play and stuff.Mhm. Yeah, I miss I miss

(39:29):
going life because of the request becauseI like it when people think that like,
oh, there's no way he wouldknow this song, and then to
play it and then like surprise everybody. It's really cool. And with the
whole new uh, like the subscriberfeature on the Lives, I was planning

(39:49):
so many things like having special subscriberonly scream days or subscribers get to request
songs early, like I get toplay your song first. So it's like
I've been trying to find ways tomonetize going live instead of just trying to
go life to grow. Right.Yeah, that's good, Yeah, because

(40:13):
I guess, Yeah, we wantedto start getting more on YouTube because that's
kind of I don't know, it'sit's better. Yeah, it's for the
long run, it's true. Imean, plus I saw you have I
think twenty three just over twenty threek on YouTube and you were saying how
you mostly clip it into larger clipyou know, larger videos, but do
you also post shorts or how doyou kind of go about that? So,

(40:37):
actually, the subscribers that I haveare only from my shorts videos,
and then what I try to dois get the people that like the shorts
videos to watch my long form becausemy long form still doesn't do well in
the normal algorithm, but my shortsdo some of the time. It's like,
you have to post. There's likea trick to YouTube shorts. You

(41:00):
have to post like every day fora month, and then you'll have a
fantastic video. And that's what happenedto me. So I was posting every
single day. I scheduled a bunchof videos, and then one video got
like eleven million views, and that'swhere twenty two thousand of those subscribers came

(41:22):
from. That extra thousand was fromjust like little pitdoli ones hitting like three
hundred thousand, four hundred thousand,but that one video. So I keep
telling people that want to go toYouTube, just focus on shorts, because
now they've made it where you canmonetize your channel without having long form content
as long as you have a shorthit a certain amount of views within a

(41:47):
certain amount of time. I don'tremember the exact timeframe, but I wish
that that rule was before when Ihad the video that was eleven million views,
because I didn't get paid for anyof that, right right, Yeah,
that would have been the way togo. Yeah. Is it calculated

(42:07):
the same for for monestation, likeas a long time I'm not sure I
would. I would assume that itwould be a little different because it's a
short, yeah, yeah, butit would still probably be more than what
TikTok's paying us. Yeah, that'strue, it would probably be I would

(42:28):
assume. Yeah, I would assumelike at least two hundred for eleven million
views, Like that's on the lowend. I would I would think like
close two Yeah, I would thinkprobably close to maybe a thousand. Probably
it's because shorts. I really couldhave used that. Yeah, I know,

(42:50):
right for real? Is there?Um? So are you hilarious?
Sorry? Go ahead? Oh sorry, I was saying I think it's hilarious
when I go on my TikTok creatorfun and see, Oh I made seven
cents yesterday or I made ten centsthe other day because that's that's that's the
kind of money that we make onmeTikTok. Yeah, like we don't.

(43:12):
We don't even look at it becausewe're like, all right, this is
gonna be pennies, like yeah,yeah for real. So do you focus?
I guess um does um? Doyou get like some sort of like
consistent and come from either either oneof the apps or is it just basically
like here and there, Like ifa video does well, then you get

(43:34):
some you know, some money incoming. Not on TikTok of course, because
it's like, yeah, like dollars. But yeah, but um no,
I am. I am very poor. What I do to make money to
keep myself going and pay you offthe bills that I have every month is
I look for ads on the creatorMarketplace or look in my emails to try

(43:57):
to do dedicated ads, and thenI try to find companies that will pay
me well because I can't do avideo, a sixty second video promoting your
product for fifty bucks, like Ineed to survive. So I usually just
make most of my money from partnerships, Like what do you mean? That's

(44:19):
one of my main sources of incomeis making videos for them, and then
like I said, finding just adsin my emails or of the marketplace.
Okay, yeah, that's that's interestingbecause I think people get it like they
do it in different ways. Soyou would say probably working with companies is
the top way for you because they'llpay you. They'll pay you a lot

(44:40):
more money, bigger companies. Yeah, right, they're just hard to find.
Yeah, it's true, especially becauseI feel like a lot of companies
don't really see you know, Iguess from their perspective they don't see the
value in it yet. But Ithink lot more companies will come around to
it, yeah, hopefully soon,because I feel like this is the TikTok

(45:06):
or equivalent of living paycheck to paycheck. Yeah, I'm just living to ad
by ad right right, And Ifeel like I feel like that's where where
TikTok's really lacking is in the monetizationof it, other than the lives of
course, which is what they're pushingand probably where TikTok makes like a good

(45:28):
portion of their money at least.But yeah, I feel like getting YouTube,
and mainly YouTube, I think isthe best paying one. Yeah,
I agree. That's another one ofmy goals for this year is to get
my YouTube up so they can startmaking some consistent income. I just need

(45:49):
to find an editor because my videosthey take like forty minutes to edit.
But if I'm editing a ten minutelong form content piano video, that's like
fifteen hours because I do all thegraphics, all the funny things, the
zooming, the The part that Ihate the most is the captioning, writing

(46:10):
everything that everybody's saying. So Ithink I just might need to hire an
editor because I know I need toget this long form content out, But
I'm like, I really don't wantto sit down for fifteen hours because I
have a hard time of leaving projects. When I'm doing something, I usually
lose track of time and I willedit the video straight through and I'm like,

(46:32):
this is this is not healthy?Yeah no, I think I think,
um, getting an editor is definitelyon the top of our list as
well, because it just saves youso much time and you can focus on
like creating instead of sitting behind acomputer. You know, yeah, exactly,
we'd have so much, so muchmore content to push out. Yeah

(46:54):
no, that's that's interesting. Yeah, because I feel like that's I feel
like finding an editor is very tough. You know in this time because everyone
wants to create exactly. Yeah,yeah, that's I've noticed a lot of
my friends though, um that Imet down in a playlist. They have

(47:16):
a lot of editors in the Philippines, so they can send their footage,
they can make make a video,send the footage over and then when you're
asleep those uh, your editor,it's it's morning, it's work time,
and they edit your videos so youcan post daily daily videos. Or the

(47:39):
people that I was talking to theydo like the daily family vlogs and that's
what they do. And I'm like, oh, that's so smart, that's
genius. Yeah, I didn't eventhink about that. That is do they
do? They go on up workor whatever it's called, or or like
fiver. I think those five mmhmm, okay, I'm gonna be looking

(48:00):
into that. Yeah, that's areally good idea because like even like it's
funny, like a big portion ofour well not a huge portion, but
like I guess a small portion,but it seems bigger than it is is
a lot of our content gets pushedout to like the Philippines and Thailand and

(48:22):
all that. Yeah, I thinkit's whatever reason. I think it's because
we go live so late sometimes,or we used to at least, that
it would get pushed to that marketand then every time, since it would
do well over there, it wouldjust keep getting pushed out and there's nothing
we can do about it. Butthat's our secondary market apparently Thailand, Philippines
and stuff like that. Hilarious,that's so funny. I don't know how

(48:46):
it affects us, but we alwaysget it. Definitely doesn't engage with our
content, I'll say that. So, is that like the majority of your
followers or from that area. MNo, Actually a small percentage, probably
more now. It's probably closer tolike maybe five percent, ten percent maybe,

(49:07):
Yeah, I think it's like fivepercent Philippines, like three percent Thailand.
Yeah, but yeah, all thoseare less than ten percent together.
It's majority, you know, UnitedStates, which I think is why our
videos sometimes just catch the wrong foryou page or just don't get pushed out
because our views like took a hit. And you know, ever since we

(49:30):
dialed back are how frequent we wereposting, it's been the views have been
a little bit better. So becausewe're posting every day. Yeah, I've
noticed the the opposite for me,I stopped posting for like a month,
and then I'm still trying to recoverfrom that because every time I would post,

(49:55):
I would get at least thirty thouper video, and now I'm struggling
for three thousand a video. SoI know, I just have to keep
posting and pushing through, but Ifeel like I'm wasting such good content trying
to make TikTok. Forgive me fortaking a break, because apparently that's against

(50:17):
the rules. I lost my algorithmprivileges. Yeah, exactly, that is.
That is what's scary too, isthat you know you can do so
well on account and then all ofa sudden they can just take away your
video all away. Or have youguys noticed like, um, when you

(50:38):
have a person comment on your videolike, oh I haven't seen you.
I'm like for you page and solong, but you've been posting every day.
Yeah, it's I get tons ofthose comments, So I'm like,
my followers aren't seeing my stuff,and I guess they think I just stopped
making videos exactly. They're they're like, where have you been and where Like

(51:00):
you've been posting every day like we'vegoing right here. Yeah no, but
that's funny. That that has happenedto us multiple times. I think it's
gone a little bit better now,but just because we go live so much.
But but yeah, no, that'sthat is Uh, that's crazy.
That the fact that someone could beon the app every day and you post

(51:22):
every day and they still don't seeit and they follow you. Yeah,
and they follow you and they followyou. Yeah, that's the biggest thing.
Yeah. I wonder if like,if you don't have any followers,
you'll get more violent videos, youknow, like or like more people will
see it. I don't know,see, I think they kind of do
that too, hook you on theapp. They do, Yeah, definitely.

(51:46):
Because my sister just posted her firstever TikTok and it was like five
seconds long of her just like zoomingin at something at a gas station and
it blew up, and I was, I, you should just keep posting,
I mean, while you have thisvideo blowing up. But I was
like, okay, so this isalmost confirming that new accounts have a better

(52:08):
chance of getting on the for youpage. Yeah, exactly. I think
it's it's probably somewhere up to liketwenty thousand too, like seventy thousand,
where they like really push it,so they're like, all right, well
let's get these people hooked on here. Hmm. Now, I guess,

(52:28):
um, you know. One ofthe benefits too of I guess posting on
social media and really just building afollowing is you're going to meet cool other
you know, other creators, companiesstuff like that. Is there are there
any like cool experiences that you've gonethe opportunity that you didn't think would be
I guess possible without social media.Um, I would say, like my

(52:54):
experience at vidcoan and playlist Live becauseum VidCon. I got to go to
the Spotify after party which was inDisney and they just they emptied out Disney
and there was no lines and itwas just all creators. And in that

(53:15):
moment, I was like, wow, like there would be no other way
for me to be here right nowunless I I knew the right people and
had my my TikTok account. Yeahand you said that was vitcon. Yeah,
that was a vitcon. That's oneof my friends had a plus one

(53:35):
and so he was like and hehas all around like ten million followers,
so he was invited. I wasn'tinvited, sadly, so of vidcan if
you're listening. I'm I'm waiting forthe invite, but he had a plus
one, so he let me comecome with him to the uh the Spotify
after party. That's that's really cool. That's really cool. And like,

(53:58):
um, are you going to vitconthis year or because we don't, we
haven't. We've never been to Vidcom. I plan on going to Vidcam this
year. I've applied like three timesas a feature creator. Like I keep
I keep bugging them, bro,I keep sending emails and stuff like,
hey, I'm still here. Youguys should definitely shoot them an email.

(54:19):
They'll send you a link to apply, or if you guys have a manager,
have your manager do it and you'lllook fancier. Yeah, no,
we've um, I guess yeah wedidn't. Really. We went to Playlist
this past year, but we haven'tbeen to any of the conferences until last
year. And we just met somany people, so much fun, and
yeah, it was a ton offun. Like you just meet so many
connections, you make so many connections. It's just you know, basic you

(54:43):
know, networking, but it's it'sa fun experience too, and you learn
a lot, Like you learn alot of what to improve on and stuff.
Mmm. I noticed that a lot. But I think um Playlist is
better for the networking side of thingsbecause it's it's smaller and feels more personal.

(55:05):
Because vitcan was around four times thesize of Playlist, But yeah,
they had cooler attractions or things thatyou could do, but I feel like
it was less personal and there's waymore people. They're way more people trying
to meet the creators, and that'swhy Playlist I got to meet some of

(55:28):
the same creators that were at Vitcon, but we got more personal time because
they weren't being rushed everywhere and goingbackstage and right. So yeah, but
if you guys, Vidcon's still agreat experience to try. If you haven't
guys, haven't gone yet, Yeah, we'll definitely, we'll definitely have to
go out there. Um. Yeah, there's a ton of people that we

(55:51):
met um that are in LA sowe'll definitely have to go back over there
pretty soon, so that'd be cool. Yeah. Are there are there any
people that that you met that yougot to talk to that I guess looked
up to and or even saw theirvideo on the for you page and kind

(56:12):
of got to talk to him alittle bit. Oh yeah, there were
tons, but I think the mostimpactful one was Daniel Thrasher. He is
also a like a piano comedian andhe makes piano skits on YouTube, so
he always would make like long formcontent and I've watched his stuff for years

(56:37):
and he was a big inspiration formy kind of humor with piano and my
content in general. And I didn'tknow he was going to be at Vidcom
because he wasn't on the roster.He was just a guest that was performing.
And I got to go up tohim, I got to to meet
him. I showed him my account, like told him like Kwie inspired me.

(57:00):
And the coolest thing was is thathe said he's seen my videos before
on his for you page and Ijust thought that was the coolest thing.
And then he was saying that,like we should do something together, so
he gave me his Instagram so wecould message and supposed to do something.

(57:22):
Sometimes I feel like collabbing is oneof the good ways to grow on these
platforms, and you even meet newpeople too, because then their friends see
your video that you guys did together, So it's it's a really good way
to grow um which we're going totry to do more of that this this
next year and stuff and kind ofjust meeting, hanging out with people,

(57:44):
maybe taking some videos like vlogs andstuff. So yeah, plus I mean
like collabbing and meeting, meeting newpeople in the same space. It's like
it gives you a real energy boostand like boost your creativity as well.
Like being around you know, thepeople who are in the same like space
as You's like, I think,really really healthy to grow and and all

(58:06):
that. H You're you're one percentright, because when I got back from
Vidcom, I was energized. Iwas ready to go. It was really
cool to be surrounded by people whohave the same passion as you like to
make these videos. Just hearing peoplelike have conversations about oh what kind of

(58:30):
like the lighting or when they werefixing audio equipment or stuff like that.
It was just cool to be inthat environment with a bunch of creative people.
And I can't wait for next year'sor now this year's Yeah, yeah,
now that that is. Yeah,there's a certain energy about it.
You know. It's just you know, kind of learning from them and wanting

(58:51):
to try out some of the strategiesthat they've used and things like that.
UM, you know you're just kindof ready to improve your content after that.
HM, did you have UM,I'm curious, did you have any
like experiences of people that saw yourvideo and came up to you in playlist
or vitcon or anything like that.So, yes, my goal was because

(59:16):
I didn't want to like hype myselfup. I said my goalless, I
just want one person to recognize me. That's it, and that'll be the
coolest thing ever. And if itdoesn't happen, it doesn't happen. But
my last day, I think itwas my last day at VITCN, this

(59:39):
this girl ran up to me andshe said, is your name Jake?
And I said yeah, and she'slike, I mean your discord And she
pulls out her phone and opens upmy discord that's linked to I was linked
from my TikTok and she and sheshowed it to me as like proof and
she was saying that she he lovesmy videos and I inspired her to start

(01:00:04):
treating content and so she gave mea card that has like all her like
uh use her names on it.And it was just really a really really
cool experience. And that one thatone was that fit con. Okay,
yeah, that's awesome. That's cool. Yeah, that's definitely cool. It's
UM, it's interesting that you canmeet someone that you see like it's I

(01:00:27):
feel like, it's just kind ofcrazy that UM, you know, you
can see someone on your for youpage for so long and then you see
him in person and it's I don'tknow, it's it's a it's a different
experience, like you get to talkto them and UM same verse like vice
versa two. Like people that haveseen our content that UM may have seen
us but not met us. Youknow, it's kind of kind of cool

(01:00:49):
to learn about the person, yeah, behind the you know, the actual
content. And the funny thing isit's like I didn't think anybody would recognize
me because they're so used to havingthe piano in front of me when they
see me. Because when I'm onOmegel, I get recognized all the time

(01:01:12):
as the piano on Megel guy.But when I would go on Omegal with
a different instrument or or or somethingelse, they don't know me. So
it's like it's like Superman in hisglasses that people can't recognize me unless I
have the keyboard in front of me, So I was really not expecting anybody
from vidkonn or playlist to recognize mewithout the keyboard. That's that's really funny

(01:01:37):
because I feel like we get likeoverrecognized because people think we're someone else.
Like at at playlist, somebody cameup to be he was like he was
in sheer shock. I was like, I was like uh, and then
he came up. He's like hesaid, I forget the name, but
he said the name. I waslike no, but he thought I was.

(01:02:00):
He thought I was this very likefamous esports guy or esports announcer or
something, and I just like Iwas like no, Like um, like
you know, I explained tow.I was like I'm Cody, you know,
like where the Taylor Twins or whatever. I showed him like my badge
or whatever. He was like,oh, you look just like him.
And then we I mean, wehad a whole conversation on like um he

(01:02:22):
was. He was telling me allabout him and stuff. But but yeah,
I feel like we have the oppositeexperience. Well, the funny thing
after after that too, like probablylike fifteen minutes later, he comes up
to me and asked me the samequestion. So I guess he was taking
a shot on like are you likejust seeing you know, he knew he

(01:02:44):
knew that he wasn't him, sohe was gonna try see if I was
like, that's funny. He probablyfelt crazy like glicks in the matrix after
seeing seeing you guys. Yeah,no, it's that was funny though.
Yeah. There there's a ton oflike funny interactions that you get. Like
obviously like some people did did recognizeus, but it's like I feel like

(01:03:06):
a lot of people also kind ofget confused and may think you're someone else.
Yeah, that's always a funny interactionor or thing that happens. Do
you do you have any like,I guess, tips for anyone who's whether
starting in social media or trying toincorporate music or you know, did you

(01:03:30):
find any anything that when you likekind of niche down or or went to
that specific niche that that you canprovide information anybody who who would be doing
that. Oh, yeah, ofcourse I would say just post, just

(01:03:51):
post it, because what I struggledwith the longest time was trying to edit
videos and thinking, oh, it'snot good enough, it's not perfect,
and so you just build up allthis content that you're not doing anything with.
So just post it because I helpedmyself back for so long, I
don't want anybody else to do that. You'll learn as you go along.

(01:04:13):
Like my editing has gotten a lotbetter than my first Pianoo Megal video,
So I would say, yeah,so just post and post often. Yeah,
it at least once a day,Yeah, because I think um a
lot of times too. Is especiallyon TikTok, the content that you think

(01:04:36):
wouldn't do well sometimes does the best. So it's kind of you. There's
not really there's not a way toreally tell until you post it, or
or we post a video on TikTokand it wouldn't do as well, and
then we'd post on Instagram and thenit would like blow up and then vice
you know, vice versa. Soyou never really know. That happened with

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me with Instagram. Like a videoposted it got like seven thousand views with
my keytard, but I posted iton Instagram and it got over a million,
and I was like, wow,so this was a good video.
TikTok lied to me. Yeah,how do you yeah, how do you
find that the reels are How areyour reels doing? Because ours just like

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stopped doing well. Einer hit ormiss. Sometimes they get six hundred views,
Sometimes I get a thousand, andthen sometimes I just blow up.
It's either it's either those or aroundfifty thousand or completely blows up. There's
no one between, So I wonderif there's some kind of thing that's set,

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Like, I don't understand how theiralgorithm works, but I saw the
most success with that with just postingevery day, and then the numbers would
just slowly climb. Okay, yeah, I think it's about consistency. Yeah,
I think so too, because yeah, ours, ours originally did really
well. I think it was whenthey're really pushing reels. So it's like

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and there weren't that many people postingon so if you posted on it,
your video would most likely get tothe for you page of Instagram, and
ours were getting like like I thinkwe got a few with a couple of
mill and then yeah, like hundredsof thousands, and then hundreds of thousands,
and then it was on the lowend, like ten thousand. So

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yeah, we're I think we're sittingat like twelve point six k followers on
Instagram, but it's twelve point seven. But it was we're at we're at
like twelve point nine, like almostat thirteen, and then that's when the
followers like it's like if I don'tknow if you posted, if we posted
too much, or if we didn'tpost enough. But it seems like we're

(01:06:45):
just like losing followers here and there, like we'd grow, we'd gain some,
but we'd lose more than we'd growover time, like for months.
And I don't understand how that works, because who goes out of their weight
go to somebody's profile to unfollow them, like I've I don't. I don't
think i've ever I've ever done that. It's like if I see somebody on

(01:07:09):
my for you page that I knowthat I followed, why would I be
like, oh, I don't wantto see them anymore and then just go
and follow them. It doesn't makesense. Yeah, no, that you're
right, It doesn't. It doesn'treally make sense. Yeah, that's I
don't know. If it's like they'reall like a lot of them are bots.
That's I mean, that's what Iwas thinking too, is I think
there's a lot of that out there. M M, because even on my

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personal inst I know they did thata lot on like it keeps happening where
like I get followers from like people, you know, bots trying to be
people. Mhmm. They did abig purge on on TikTok, and I
remember everybody was freaking out because we'relosing thousands every day. But I was

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just like, waited, how they'reall not real accounts, And to be
honest, I don't want bought accountsfollow on my page. So we'll make
we'll make the numbers back. That'sanother thing with four advices is don't worry
about the numbers. Just worry aboutthe content that you're putting out. Obviously,
if you're putting out content that's constantlygetting like three or four views,

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maybe change your content a little bit. Then you can kind of worry about
the numbers. But like I usedto beat myself up when I didn't hit
my goal was like hitting ten thousandviews within an hour, and then I
would know that the video was good. But that was some arbitrary thing that
I made up in my mind thatI'm like, why am I even saying

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that it's it's successful if it reachesthis standard, which is a standard that
I set. So I try notto worry about that too much anymore,
right, right, Yeah, Icompletely agree because, like especially now where
the algorithm is like it's changing constantly, and you know, you can't really
judge a video based on that,and sometimes if you get the views right

(01:08:58):
away, it's just going to stop. So it's like, you know,
yeah, and just and sometimes justrepost your content, right. I think
one of my one of my mostsuccessful videos was a repost. The first
time I posted it got four thousand, and then the second time I posted

(01:09:19):
it it got millions. So it'slike all of them have the potential to
blow up. It's just whether TikToklikes you that day or not. Yeah,
it's true. It's it's almost frustratingwhen it does that too, because
it's like you know, like youknow, I posted this video or like

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and then like you said, there'slike videos of like zooming in on something
at a gas station like your yousaid your sister posted I think, and
uh, it's like what do Ihave to do? You know, m
exactly and we did hear too that. Um. It does like each hour
or day, however the algorithm works, it'll take in different factors, so

(01:10:01):
like like whether you're outside inside youknow, it just picks and chooses based
off certain categories and whether if youposted that day, it's just kind of
like what is it looking for inthat moment or that day? Yeah,
it's insane, So it's like youdon't know how to please it, yeah,

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right, Which I think it bringsus back to, like I mean,
of course we were all kind oflike chasing views at that like the
beginning and stuff, and it justbrings you back to like, at the
end of the day, you gotto post content that you like and you
really enjoy making and just make thatthe best you can exactly, because then

(01:10:47):
if you make videos that you enjoy, then there's got to be at least
a handful of people that enjoy thesame type of humor content that you're making,
right right. And I want toask you too, what do you
I guess going into twenty twenty three, do you have any plans to do

(01:11:09):
anything like I guess what are yourwhat are your plans for your content for
a long form short form all that? So I think the plan for this
year, what I wanted to dowas get more into skits, musical skits,
So that's going to be more longform with short form adaptations that I'll

(01:11:30):
post to kind of point people tothe long form content, because I want
to start doing more musical skits.So then when I do collab with Daniel
Thrasher, I'll kind of already bein that market of piano like skits.
So that's my goal for this yearis to kind of pivot towards that,
Oh that's cool, that's really good. Do you have any um, I

(01:11:53):
guess ideas or concepts that you canshare to give someone like people listening to
an example? Yeah, I haveone that I'm writing that's it's like these
kids in the music class and thisgirl walks in and there like, oh,
that's that's so, and so she'sreally into guys that play guitar.

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And then it will cut to thefriend and he has a guitar in his
hand, and then it'll cut backto the other friend and he'll be like
our or was it keyboard? Andthen it'll cut to the friend again and
then it's like he knows how toplay the keyboard. I'm going to keep
doing that with different instruments until theguy finally figures out what instrument he was
actually talking about. But it's goingto show that that guy was kind of
a simple like learning every instrument totry to impress that girl. Yeah,

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that's funny, and it's hard toit's hard to, uh sometimes for people
to picture like a concept of askip before like before actually like seeing it.
So that that is that is funny. I'm excited to see that what
that turns out to. Yeah,I'm really excited. I have a couple
ideas scratch down. Yeah, thatis that is interesting. I feel like

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a lot of like this year ortwenty twenty two, it was focused on
more of like trends, trending sounds, things like that. But I do
feel like twenty twenty three will focusmore on like skits, original content things
like that. I think that wouldbe almost prioritized because you know, we've

(01:13:21):
all seen the same thing for solong and I feel like it just has
to change. Yeah. I thinka little in real life content too,
Yeah, because I've noticed that withmy friends that are dance TikTokers that their
accounts are struggling because I think thedays of just trending audios is going behind

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us and they want original sounds now. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I
feel like if you're not like thefirst few videos on like a trending sound,
it's not going to do what itused to. Yeah, that's that
is true. I mean do yousee, um, I guess how what
do you see the it changing too? Mostly? Do you do you see

(01:14:09):
it changing to mostly skits or Ithink it's changing, yeah, to mainly
skits. I'm getting a lot ofskits on my for you page or just
original audios even if like I've seensome music accounts promoting their music and making
little music videos like I don't knowwhy, but I think I think original

(01:14:30):
content is doing better than just doinglike voice over acting skits. Okay,
do you think you'll post more originalmusic of yours or at least stuff that
you've maybe music that you've altered alittle bit? Yes, um. I
recently got the music tab on TikTok. I'm still waiting for them to confirm

(01:14:57):
it, but I it'll list allthe mus that I've written and put on
Spotify, which is only one songart right now, but for the future,
I have other songs that I'm writing. But now people on TikTok and
be able to go and go throughmy actual music, and so I'm going
to be posting a lot more ofmy original songs and then point people to

(01:15:19):
the Spotify to try to generate morepassive and come through there. Oh yeah,
that's yeah, that's awesome like that. Yeah, that'll be cool.
That'd be cool to see especially.So that's another big thing that I want
to do this year is write downand actually record some of the music I've
written. Yeah, that would bethat would be interesting. Like I'd like

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to hear that too, because youknow, we just hear the same songs
over and over again, and Idon't know, I think we're just all,
like everyone just tired of hearing thesame thing. M like I have.
When I first started doing Omegal,I would do this thing I called
the three Note Challenge. I wouldhave people on a may go pick three
notes, and based on those threenotes, I had to make a song.

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And I made a bunch of thosevideos. And I was thinking I
should take all of those mini songsthat I wrote and then flesh them out
and make an album and make thealbum called like the Three Note Album,
and then put that on my TikToklist then have people go listen to my

(01:16:25):
Spotify through there. Oh yeah,that's cool too. That would be cool.
Um, I think I think itwould be cool too to see maybe
like a like an intro of it, just to drive the traffic, like
see an intro of it. Andthen if you want to hear how this
turned out, go to my Instagram. I would I would follow your your
link there. I would be like, Okay, I'm going to Instagram.

(01:16:46):
I'm checking this out. Yeah,I'm gonna be doing that. Yeah,
we're gonna have to try to dostuff like that to where it's you know,
part of it's on there, andthen we'll maybe upload like rest of
it on YouTube or something like that. Yeah, m hmm, Yeah,
that'll be cool. Um. Andthen um, also, did um,

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did you have any like interesting stories, um, besides like the crazy stuff
on um, Like if there's ifthere's like funny stories on Omegal, I'd
like to hear that. Um.But are there any interesting stories from your
content or things that I've happened alongthe way? Um? Well, interesting
Omegel stories I have. I sawthis guy and it looked like he was

(01:17:43):
dressed like a clown and he hadblue hair and it wasn't a wig.
His hair was actually blue. Hewas wearing sunglasses and I was like,
can I play you with a songand he just not He nods his head
all happy and he wouldn't speak thewhole time. So I played the song.

(01:18:03):
I think he was just like thumbsup and I was like okay,
and then I skipped. It wasso weird. It looked like he was
in a basement and it was justlike straight out of a horror movie.
I don't know what was going onbut what that guy was doing, but
I just I never never forgot thatone. Yeah, there's there's definitely some

(01:18:24):
interesting stuff on there. Like youget the worst of what you would expect
on the Internet, and then youalso get some like somewhat normal people on
there, like, for example,um, yeah, we ran across some
stuff. And after after the likeyou're done filming, you're like you need
to like decompress. After that,You're like I don't want to do that.
Yeah, like I need to washmy eyeballs. And it's crazy because

(01:18:49):
like I get confused with different races, So I've been called tons of racial
slurs by children of races that Idon't even belong to. And it's just
crazy how mean people can be ontheir Sometimes I have to take a break
because people will straight up just roastyou. I ended up monetizing that because

(01:19:15):
I made my Rejected series is whatI called it, of people that are
rude and like skip me. Iturned that into beautiful content so that everybody
can see how these people act.That would be interesting making paper from that
pain. That's true because, um, a lot of people on you know,

(01:19:39):
a website like that, like theyjust feel like I think they go
on there just to like, Idon't know, they have fun with it
and like be mean or whatever,because you know, they don't really have
the consequences of it, like beingon it like TikTok it's like the merge.
Yeah, it's it's kind of crazywhere to the point where when you're

(01:20:01):
ready to perform or ready to dowhatever you're doing on there, it's like
you're like not ready. Yeah,it's crazy. The stuff that I've seen,
and there's so many there's so manyNazis out there, bro amount of
Nazi flags I've seen. Yeah.They usually they're always covering their face,

(01:20:21):
like they have something that they likea ski mask or something, but then
they have the flag and all that, and then I just get I don't
even entertain those those people because evenif could you imagine to figure to post
that on TikTok and there's a bigold Nazi flag in the background. Let's
asking for a man. That's crazy. Um. And then I did want

(01:20:43):
to ask too about um, doyou ever post to like Twitter or anything,
because they're trying to make that Ithink more of a video platform now
too. Oh really yeah, I'mnot much of a Twitter person. I
just use it to look up newsor things like that. Like I'm not
on Twitter much at all. Sameyeah, yeah, because apparently I think

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they're trying to make it more ofa like trying to evolve it to more
like it's going to obviously be thecenter for news and stuff still, but
I think they're trying to add moreof a video aspect to it, to
where you know, if you hadsomething like interesting to share, like what
you do, I think those videoswould do well kind of like similar audience
like Facebook and stuff. I kindof feel like that would be Oh yeah,

(01:21:28):
I'll be all over that if theystart having a section where you can
post videos like that. I wishTwitch would have like a fo you page,
Yeah, I think, like foryour clip. I still don't know
why they don't have that. Ithink I think it's gonna be like,
um, yeah, I'm surprised whythey don't, but I know they are,

(01:21:50):
you know if you search it,Like, I think they are seo
optimized to a degree on Twitch,So I think to an extent, but
I think it's more Google type ofstuff than like their actual platform. Yeah,

(01:22:10):
yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I don't know, because Twitch
is very hard to grow on too, Likes. That's one of those things
that you have to put in somany hours and you don't know if it's
going to pay off. Yeah.Yeah, And that's why I say that
if you want to do a Twitchaccount, like, if you want to
make a Twitch account, make aTikTok too, because I knew three streamers

(01:22:33):
that got partnered in a year becausethey would post their clips on TikTok and
push people to go back to theirlives because otherwise you're just streaming to the
same three people and you're going tobe on the bottom of the game list
and nobody's going to scroll down tothe bottom to find you. So it's

(01:22:53):
like you have to be somewhere elseand build and then say hey, and
if you want to see me live, come over here, right, Yeah,
Because I know some of my friendsthat there's people that want to be
content creators and then people that wantto be content creators but I don't want
to work at all. I've meta couple of people like that and they

(01:23:14):
refuse to make a TikTok or postreels. They think they don't need it,
and I'm like, okay, okay, like you can try, but
this isn't the early like early twitch. You maybe could do that when it
was first starting out, the samething with early YouTube, but since we're
kind of late to the game wherewe're in the TikTok era where you had

(01:23:36):
to start early on TikTok, andI wish in reality that I started my
TikTok a year before I did,because I think my content would have really
really blown up, because that's backwhen like call me Chris was around a
million or two million followers I think, And I didn't even post then,

(01:24:00):
but I was like, wow,the vibe if you had a viral video
back then, it didn't stop likemine stopped at around like twenty six,
but a lot of people that Iknow, like their videos would go up
until you were like in the twohundred million like virality range dang wow or
you know that like to his accountsto touch an Emu, he's the guy

(01:24:24):
with the drone that flies around whenhe dances. Oh yeah was Yeah.
His video was one of those earlyones and it got like three hundred and
sixty million views. That's crazy.Yeah, same thing with that one guy
that did um. I forget thegirl's name, but she was at Playlist

(01:24:45):
two, but she was the blondechick that did them. It was like
the face zoom yeah, but itwas like I forget what the sound was,
like, I can't take it waslike a song. Yeah, and
then he was he was doing itsinging with like a it was like almost
like a nature background or so yeah, he's like yeah, he's like,
if she can get this, let'ssee how many views I can get or

(01:25:08):
if it's that easy. And thenhe does it and it's outside great quality
camera which exceeded hers, Yeah,which I think he had at one point
one of the top one of thetop. Yeah, I think he broke
it the record. Yeah yeah,wow, Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah,
which is crazy. And then backto what you were saying too,

(01:25:30):
is like that virility is like orviability however you say it like because they
would get posted on Facebook and thenFacebook would really blow up because all the
parents would see it and then likeshare it with all the friends or whatever.
So yeah, it was a differentlevel back then, which it's a
lot more competitive now and especially withalgorithms and all that hm because there's just

(01:25:56):
so many people on that platform thatit's really hard to stand out, right,
Yeah, definitely now. I guessgetting back to because I'm interested in
who like your favorite content or streamersare. Now, do you have any
like Twitch, favorite Twitch streamers thatyou watch, your favorite TikTokers and people

(01:26:20):
like that. I know you mentionedthe person you met at VIDCN, right,
Yeah, Daniel Thrasher, So he'sprobably like my favorite YouTube account.
I don't watch a lot of Twitch. I usually just watch my friends streams
because I like things that I canpause because I'm constantly getting distracted in whatever

(01:26:44):
I'm doing, and so yeah,having YouTube videos that I can just pause
and go finish what I'm doing orwhatever, it's a lot easier for me.
So I just never really got intowatching screams, but for TikTok,
I don't even know if I havefavorite TikToker. Yeah, I would even
have I would agree to that too. I don't. I don't think I

(01:27:06):
have a favorite TikToker. I think, um, as far as I follow,
yeah right, there's so many,and it's like I think, as
far as streamers, though, Idid start. I don't know if you
um have seen him on TikTok liveor anything, but I started watching.
Um. I haven't recently, butI watched for like a period of like
a week or two this uh,this guy name I think his name is

(01:27:29):
Slater um, but he does likethe voice changer effect and he'll act like
he's like eleven years old and dothe funny clips and stuff and it's it's
actually pretty funny when you watch itlive. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen
those videos on TikTok okay, sothat may be a scream that I would
want to watch because those videos arehilarious. Yeah no, I think,

(01:27:51):
yeah, we want to try tohave him on too, because um,
you know, I think that wouldbe a fun podcast too, to have
have him on and ask him likelike if it if he's done this for
a while and stuff, you know, because I think he is he should
ask him but voice changer he uses. Yeah, I don't know if you'd

(01:28:11):
ever tell us that. To behonest, yeah, it might be a
secret, but we might be ableto get out of him if we have
him on mm hmmm, because Ithink he might have the same one as
mine, and if that's the case, I want to know those settings.
Yeah, that's true. I don'tknow. I like control when I like
Yeah, I think he does.Um. I think he might change his

(01:28:32):
voice a little bit too when hetalks until I kind of probably yeah,
mm hmm, try to make itmore believable. Yeah, right, but
he is entertaining too, besides thevoice changer. M hmm. Yeah,

(01:28:53):
that's true. Now. I thinkthe only other content that I like consume
is uh, these really long YouTubevideos but from kit Boga, because like
I said, I get distracted andthese things I can just listen to.
He's a scam vader, so hedoes voice changer and he sounds like,

(01:29:15):
um, like an elderly man orwoman. And we'll talk to the scammers
for hours, just wasting their time. And I like those because I don't
have to sit there and constantly payattention. I could listen to it while
I'm cleaning up or doing other stuff. Right, So those like the kind
of content that I watched. Yeah, now that is that is funny.

(01:29:36):
I've seen that. I think I'veseen a few videos of those that,
um, they like find the camerasof the call centers that these scammers are
are using, and it's just it'scrazy how much they can like hack into
but they're hacking into these scammers toget back at the Yeah, it's so

(01:29:56):
funny because the scammers just freak out. They freak out. M hmmm.
It's just I don't know why.It's so satisfying. It's like justice,
Yeah exactly. It's like it's like, um, it's like almost like positive
content to degree. Mm hmm.Yeah. Now, Um, I did

(01:30:20):
want to I did want to kindof uh kind of finish up with Were
there any stories or anything that youyou wanted to talk about? Um,
you know, while we're asking youand um, was there anything that you
wanted to uh like any funny anyother funny stories or anything interesting that you
wanted to mention? I do havea funny story. Um. I was

(01:30:45):
recording. This is also a lessonfor new creators as well. Um,
so I needed to record some videosand I was I was playing great,
I was and good conversation with people. They were had, they had good
camera quality. It was awesome.When I went to go check the footage,

(01:31:11):
I didn't click record, and soI was just sitting there for hours
getting amazing content, and I forgotto click record, I forgot to click
start. So all of that Ijust went to bed. Right after that,
I was like, I'm done.I will make content tomorrow because I

(01:31:32):
am exhausted. I was so upsetI didn't click the button. I'm like,
how could I forget? So nowevery time I double check, I
even record. Oh, I've donethat too. I've recorded, but having
my mic commuted in my recording softwareso they can't hear nothing that I'm saying.

(01:31:57):
So now when before I record,I click my button, see it
change, I talk. I slappedthe piano keys and then I stop.
I watched the video and I'm like, I can hear everything. Then I
watched and I clicked the button andwatch it say recording. And then I
go sit down because I never wantto do that again, because it was

(01:32:19):
horrible, because I was so happythat I was getting such good content for
it all to be just a wasteof time. Yeah, I think that's
I think that's one of the biggestfears of like content creation is either deleting
something or not recording something in likenot realizing it. Yeah you had the

(01:32:42):
lens cap on the whole time,right, Yeah, something goes wrong,
and it's always like your best content, you're like, Oh, this is
gonna be amazing. That it's thebiggest let down. It happened to me
when I was doing a ad videosfor what do You Mean? And it
is so hard to get people towant to play a game because people don't

(01:33:06):
know when you say, hey,do you want to play a game?
They don't know what you're trying toask, Like I'm actually trying to play
a card game. So a lotof people are like, oh, I
gotta get out of here. Butum I had one where these people were
funny trying to guess it. Itwas hilarious, and then um I didn't.

(01:33:28):
I didn't click record again. Soall of those mishaps of me not
recording, I've I've never done itagain because that was all in the same
span of time. So I waslike, I need to do something to
correct this. So now I havethat little routine that I go through before
I record to make sure that Idon't waste any more time. Yeah.

(01:33:50):
Yeah, that's that's actually an interestingpoint too, because there's there's mistakes that,
um, you know, we makeor you know, the stuff we
can control and stuff we can't control. Is there are there any other mistakes
that you've made, um, thatyou'll never make again? Like, for
example, US, we stopped postingduring the COVID time where it was the

(01:34:12):
most like viral time, and Idon't bring that up and we learned We're
like, we're never gonna just stopbeing on the platform. Um, We're
just like we're gonna keep posting orjust be consistent. Are there any like
mistakes besides the recording like mishap,besides that, I think, UM not

(01:34:38):
backch editing, because what I woulddo is every day I would edit a
video and post it. And Idid that for like four hundred and sixty
something days, and then I broke, like I was at full burnout,
and then I didn't post for amonth. So I'm like, Okay,

(01:35:01):
now that I'm getting back into content, I need to take a weekend and
I edit all my content for theweek. So I'm not having the constant
pressure of, oh, you gottago edit and like, oh, you
got to go look for a videoand try to post it on time,
because that was just really really stressfuland I didn't know what it was doing
to my mental health until it wastoo late. And then so now I'm

(01:35:24):
trying to fix that and then thisyear learn from that mistake and try to
do things differently. Yeah, yeah, now that's that's a really good point.
I think burnout is a really bigthing, especially when you have like
in our heads as creators, likewe want this to stay our full time,
you know, soul like purpose.So you know you want to get

(01:35:47):
as much done as possible and sometimesyour income like relies on it. But
how do you balance burning out andbeing as productive as possible? See,
you know, I don't have aperfect answer for that, because I'm still
dealing with that. I'm still tryingto figure out how to get everything done

(01:36:10):
but then also live a healthy lifeoutside because like I'm the same as you
guys. I edit all of myown stuff, and I also create all
my own stuff, and I'm alsothe person who sets up and tears down
all my lighting and cameras and everything. So at the end of the day,

(01:36:30):
like I'm doing so much work butonly producing a small amount of content,
and so I need to figure out. I think I'm going to be
hiring my little brothers to help meout or something this year, to do
something different, to try to seeif that helps with the burnout, because
I can't keep getting burnt out andnot posting for a month, especially if
I want this to be my fulltime thing. Yeah, right now,

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that's a really good idea. Yeah, because they can do They can do
a lot of the work and learnthe skills too to uh like add in
or you know, do stuff thattakes up a lot of time. Yeah,
even like simple things like if I'mrecording a skit and I mess up
a take, I don't have towalk over to the camera, click the
button and then click it again andthen get into frame. I can just

(01:37:16):
have them I'll do it again,which I mean, try to be more
efficient this year, right, Yeah. Which what camera do you have,
by the way, I have theSony ZV ten. Okay, it's it
was one of their newer cameras thatthey were marketing towards content creators. And

(01:37:41):
what I like about this one isit's like the ZV one, but this
one I can have interchangeable lenses,so I can use it for photography for
um my Instagram. Oh okay,I think I've seen that it's like about
like the fifty millimeter lens for it. Okay, so it's similar to the
problem for just like taking pictures.The ZV one is the point and shoot,

(01:38:03):
and then the ZV ten, whichis the same price, has the
one where you can take the lensesoff and switch it. And I figured,
if I'm spending this much money ona camera, i might as well
get one that I can buy lensesfor it to do other things with.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.Yeah, that's that's a good point.
What the reason I asked also isbecause I know they make like clickers or

(01:38:26):
they might have an app where youcan control it from your phone, so
I would also look into that.But also while we're in it, I'm
sure people would want to know whatequipment used as well, so if you
could tell us that too. Okay. So for my microphone, I'm using
a lou Wit four forty and Ijust got it recently and I'm in love

(01:38:51):
with it. And I'm plugging thismicrophone into a go x al our interface
and that's actually what I plug mykeyboard into, so all of my stuff
is running through this go XLR.My keyboard is a Yamaha MO eight,
which is like sixteen years old orsomething. This is actually live. The

(01:39:15):
keyboard that you see in my videosis the keyboard that I grew up playing
on. Like I took my lessonsand everything we're on this keyboard. It's
amazing and it still holds up today. Except the technology is just so big
on it that this thing is heavy. But yeah, that's the keyboard I
use. And my key tars theRoland axe Egge and I think I think

(01:39:43):
that does it. I also usea focus write sometimes for different instruments,
just to plug and play and thenplug that into the XLR. It depends
on what kind of instruments that I'mmessing around with. Yeah, I have
the Scarlet too. I haven't usedit, like I don't. We don't
use it for this, but yeah, I think's pretty good. M Yeah,
I liked a lot. That wasmy first interface. That's something that

(01:40:06):
I've I've liked to watch to asa creator, like seeing your set up
and content grow and like be betterquality. Because I remember I wanted nice
audio for the longest time, andthen I only got it, um,
I think the middle of last year, so I've only been making videos with

(01:40:29):
it for a little for a littlewhile, and everything else was with my
older stuff. So it's kind ofcrazy too that that just shows you that
people shouldn't limit themselves to their equipment, like, oh, I just have
a webcam, like people aren't gonnawant to watch my stuff. Well,
look a look at us, LikeI used one of those thirty dollars webcams

(01:40:51):
for ninety percent of my videos untilnow, right, So I guess that's
more more for the advice section,that's that's a really that's really good advice.
And that's a really good example toobecause um, I mean we of
course, even us, we wouldfall into that too, where it's like
we can't start this like podcast orwe can't start making these type of videos

(01:41:14):
because of it, um, whichI mean we've kind of used as an
excuse to I guess buy better equipment. But um, but at the same
time, it's like, I meaneven with nowadays, like people's phones are
are getting better views than some camerasand stuff, so it really doesn't matter
quite the equipment. Just you know, make do with what you have exactly.

(01:41:41):
Yeah, No, that's UM,I think I think it's just like
the excitement. Um, you wantto get better stuff and make better content,
but you first have to put outvideos first to you know, really
get in that mode and then youcan kind of upgrade after that. Um.
But yeah, I guess was therewas there anything that you wanted to

(01:42:02):
um, I guess talk about orshout out or anything like that that uh
you wanted to uh to mention.Oh, I was kind of curious on
a like what you guys were doingon Omega left or I was showing you.
I was kind of curious on thecontent that you guys were getting.
Yeah, by the way, thankyou for helping us set that up to

(01:42:25):
UM that was that was that helpeda lot because it's very complicated if you
don't have someone to like point youin the right direction or like, oh
here's a little tip that I learned, you know, things like that.
So yeah, thanks for mentioning thatand quick quick shout out, um every
one of our viewers. Uh,this is how he helped us figure out

(01:42:47):
Omego so we can make those uhtho that type of content too. Yeah.
So so yeah, basically we filmedI think two days, um,
and it was we got we gotsome good reactions. We have a few
that we didn't post yet. Theoriginal ones did pretty well. I think
it got like three thousand, butit wasn't like I don't know, I

(01:43:08):
think our algorithm was messed up atthe time, so we'll probably have to
give it some time and repost.So we we kind of took a step
back from creating those those videos becausewe still have like, um like stuff
that we didn't post yet. Butbut yeah, no, it was.
It worked out pretty well. Wegot some good reactions, but I think

(01:43:28):
a lot of people were just likethey were kind of used to it because
so they've seen so many videos ofswitching on Omego. Yeah, twins switching
on Omega. So what we didwas basically we would have someone start in
camera, you know, on omegel, and we'd basically have a quick conversation,

(01:43:51):
maybe exchange a little bit, andjust like basically go, oh,
I gotta switch my shirt, Sowe change our shirt, but we just
so it'd be like within a secondtwo seconds, and then they basically be
like freaked out and uh like wait, like something's up. There's no way
you change that fast. So basicallywe would just keep doing it and mess

(01:44:12):
with the person and we got somepretty good reactions out of it. Yeah,
that's awesome. That's a fantastic idea. Actually, ye keep up with
that. Yeah, we're gonna tryto. I think we also got a
little weirded out of like you needto decompress after omegal it was just you
know, you see it, Ohyeah on that app or website. Rough,

(01:44:35):
bro, it's rough. Yeah,and one of my followers only knew
what I do to get the contentfor them. Oh exactly, yeah,
like what you have to go through. And we want to do more in
person ones, so we kind of, um, I don't know, we
were trying to look for a videographer. Yeah, that's another thing. We

(01:44:56):
needed someone to stand with the camerabecause we would have to both be in
it for that. Um and then, like you said, potentially an editor
too, because that's just a lotof content mm hm oh but that would
be awesome, Like you guys wouldbe like impractical jokers type stuff. Yeah,
on the street, Yeah, justto confuse people. Oh that's actually

(01:45:17):
good idea. I'm excited to seethat. Yeah, and we would have
to do we'd have to get likea new like new mics, like lab
mics, so we could feel right. Yeah, that's I'm looking forward to
that. Yeah. Yeah, that'llbe exciting. And I mean there's so
much we want to do. There'sso much we want to do and need

(01:45:40):
to do on these other platforms aswell. Mhm. Which speaking of that,
is there is there more of yoursocial media's or anything that you're starting
up this next year or that youwant to shout out and want to get
going more. Um, probably justmy Instagram. I'm going hardcore on this

(01:46:02):
year. So yeah, my myInstagram is just Jake Susy jak E s
O U s I E. Andyou're gonna be seeing a lot of musical
content and hopefully hopefully some music skitsthat'll be that'll be really exciting to see
as well. Yeah, it's gonnabe fun. Yeah. Yeah, and

(01:46:23):
have my crew of my little brothers. Yeah, maybe I'll do behind the
scenes. Yeah. Is there isthere any content that you want to make
but you just don't have either theequipment or um you don't have the I
guess the resources at the moment tomake Yeah. I wanted to do kind

(01:46:45):
of something similar to what you guyswere talking about going out, Like I
was thinking about walking downtown and likewearing my key tar and a box amp,
but then having somebody video and Ijust play requests for people literally on
the street and then just keep onlike walking with this big old keytart.
I think those those might do prettywell. That's a yeah, that's really

(01:47:09):
another thing that I would want totry to do. But like you said,
I need to figure out lapel micsand and all that and then find
somebody that knows how to use agimbal and yeah, get the good footage.
Yeah, no, that's that isthat would be interesting because I know,
um a lot of people. Theinterviews and stuff do well on the

(01:47:30):
four you page, So I thinkgoing up to people again, you know
their reaction in real life and kindof like playing on the spot would be
cool. M Also, this year, I think I'm trying to start a
podcast with one of my friends,and I don't know if we'll get it

(01:47:53):
up early this year, for it'sgoing to be later this year because I'm
still like I'm sending her old equipmentof mine that she can use on her
computer because we're trying to do avirtual podcast so that's something that they might
see at some point this year.Oh okay, that's cool. Yeah,

(01:48:13):
but no promises, because that's awhole other can of worms learning how to
make a podcast. So I'll probablybe texting you guys to ask some questions.
Yeah no, we'd be happy,too happy to give you some pointers
on like different softwares and stuff.I feel like that's the hardest part is
just finding the right software for it, mhm, because then I can't even

(01:48:35):
imagine having to edit a whole episode. Yeah. No, Yeah, the
editing it's actually not too bad.I feel like the editing that you're doing
for Omegel is a lot, alot harder. Yeah, so this,
at least this you can just cutout the little in betweens and maybe the

(01:48:57):
if there's any pauses or where theaudio might cut out a little bit.
I feel like it's pretty straightforward forpodcasting. But it is a lot of
footage, you know, right,Yeah, mhmm, because I've been seeing
a lot of I think his nameis Joe Joe Santa Gatto, Santa Gato,
Yeah, I've seen I love.I used to watch his YouTube videos

(01:49:20):
like years ago, and he's hilarious. So when I saw that podcast on
my for you page. It wasit was perfect, Like, that's the
kind of content that I would want. So now I see that stuff all
the time. Then I was thinking, man, I love that stuff so
much. I wish like I couldmake that kind of stuff. So then

(01:49:40):
now me and my friend are tryingto make a podcast to have moments like
that, and I want to editit similarly. Right, Yeah, no,
it's so funny. Yeah, he'shilarious. And the other guy too.
I forget the guy's name, buthe's hilarious too. I forget his
name too. Yeah, we wantto have him on too. I think
that would be uh, that'd befunny. Yeah, he'd be good.
Guess I think, oh, yes, that would be awesome. Let me

(01:50:04):
know if you have that happening,I'll watch that episode. Okay, yeah,
we'll definitely let you know. Yeah, we have a we have a
lot of people that we want towe want to have on UM because there's,
uh, you know, there's there'salways a way to you know,
you know someone that knows someone youknow. So it's there's always a way
to find contacts and stuff. Whichis kind of cool too, is that

(01:50:26):
it's a smaller world on social mediathan you would think. Is there are
there like any like I guess peoplethat you know or know someone that knows
that you've never thought you would bein like reach of. Well, I
think just especially when I was juststarting TikTok, I remember call Me Chris

(01:50:47):
was all over my four you page, and now we're mutuals on TikTok and
we got to meet in person,and it's just so crazy. The same
thing with Shanda's Magic. It's likethese people that I looked up to,
like now I have like denect directconnections with them. It's just crazy.

(01:51:09):
It is. Yeah, it's crazyout you can like meet someone like that,
or meet someone that you would neverrun into mhmm, or somebody that
you used to watch on YouTube,right, Like do you guys remember Tubuscus?
Could you ever watch him growing up? I don't think someone was a

(01:51:31):
big YouTuber, but like I endedup working for him for a little bit,
editing his videos, and I rememberwhen I was growing up he was
he was the first YouTuber I everwatched. So it's just kind of crazy
the different stuff that you can runinto and opportunities. Yeah, no,
it is. It is kind ofcrazy, you know, even on the

(01:51:53):
flip side too, of like ifyou're if you're watching someone and you're not
interested in created, but you youwant to meet them or um, it
would be cool to you know,at least talk to them a bit.
I feel like it's it's a lotmore reachable than um than you would think,
you know. M hmm. Andlike you said, somebody always knows

(01:52:14):
somebody, So if you ever needanything in the social media world, you
gotta contact somewhere exactly. It's like, I feel like I'm trying to push
my way into like the upper circleof Tiktoker's Yeah, I'm almost there.
Yeah, it's like it's like almosttears, you know. M hmm.

(01:52:34):
Yeah, that's that's a really goodpoint too. But yeah, um,
but yeah, we don't want totake up too much of your time.
UM So, was there any likelast mentions or anything that you wanted to
uh to mention? Uh no,just a just followed Jake Boss on TikTok
maybe revive my account. Yeah,it's it's interesting to see the reactions for

(01:53:00):
sure, So everybody go watch that, go watch his videos, like him,
of course follow him. But yeah, thanks again for coming on and
is there anything that you wanted toto I guess direct people to to go
expect from the future or to directto another social media or anything like that.

(01:53:24):
Okay, so yeah, just toexpect some new musical skits and hopefully
a new album on Spotify this year. Okay, all right, Yeah,
that'll be exciting to see the originalcontent is coming out. I like it.
Yeah, guys, definitely go definitelygo follow him on all platforms.
And I did go through your linksand TikTok too, so they're all there,

(01:53:47):
guys, so go fall them onTikTok, go fall him on everything,
and yeah, I mean I'm excitedto see what you have. Yeah,
thank you guys so much for havingme. Yeah, of course,
thanks again for coming on. Weappreciate it. And you know, it
was very interesting to hear your backstoryand how you your thought process on your

(01:54:09):
content and stuff like that. Solet us, you know, everybody that's
listening, definitely comment, go checkout his content and give us some feedback
on what you thought about the podcastepisode. Yep. But all right,
yeah, thanks for listening, Thanksfor listening, and thanks again to Jake
for coming on. Yeah, thankyou, all right, thanks for listening guys,