Jackson Eyre - Fighting Mental Health with Tiktoks - The Tiralosi Twins Podcast

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All right, welcome back to theTaylor Sie Twins podcast. Our next guest
has over five hundred thousand followers onTikTok and over one hundred thousand followers on
Instagram. Let's welcome Jackson Air.How's it going, guys the Twins?
It's going well. How's it goingto do? Good? Dude, just

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woke up, did a little bitof reading, UM, got ready for
the day, spaced out the podcastfor like two seconds thinking my time,
and glad we're all on page andwe're all here now. Yeah, absolutely,
thanks again for coming on. Wereally appreciate it, Um, and
you know, we're we're excited topretty much hear about your backstory because a
lot of the reason why we havepeople on is uh, like a lot

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of creators, not many people knowwhat goes into starting it out or you
know, other things like that.So, um, we'd love to hear
your story and if you could kindof give us a little feed or like
a little background story on your yourown story. So I'm Jackson. I'm
eighteen years old. Making content anddoing content was always kind of a dream,

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but not really a realistic one.I come from a really small town
where, you know, there's justas many trees as there is people.
And when I was younger, Iwas really into acting and I was a
background actor on a Disney Channel showup in Salt Lake City, which was
about an hour and a half forme. There is where I met a

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lot of fun people. It wasmy first kind of introduction to the industry.
When I was there, it definitelyhelped me build a lot of confidence
with this is what I want todo. I want to be out,
I want to be going. Andthat's where I met an named Darius Marcella.

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He was a main actor on theshow. And acting, a big
part of it is knowing people,having connections, and it's kind of who
you know, not what you know. Talent only takes you so far in
the industry. And there I wasjust walking through set. This kid opened
the door for me and he waslike hanging out with the background kids,

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right. It turns out he wasone of the main actors on the show.
We ended up becoming best friends andlike we would talk about acting and
stuff and he would like help meout, knowing when I could come work
on sets things like that, andhe's just someone who always had my back
and I loved the acting industry allof that, and with that, having
a friend that was a main charactergave me a lot of confidence. So

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when i'd go back home at schooland stuff, kids were saying, Oh,
it's this Jackson, are you ona Disney showing it? Like yeah,
Like I'd try to stay away fromthose questions, but also, you
know, it came with a littlebit of confidence. It was nice hearing
that. So going into my freshmanyear that summer, I made the decision.
I said, Okay, I'm gonnapick sports. I want to play
sports. I was really interested insoccer. I wanted to play ledge soccer.

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And then that is when I decided, okay, we're picking school.
So summer goes on, and thatAugust, my best friend, my cousin,
Kellen, took his life. Itwas confusing. It was hard when
you're going to when you're going intoyour sophomore year or your freshman year.

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You know, it's that first yearof high school. It's awkward, it's
weird, kind of rely on friendsand good friends, right, And so
I lost my cousin and I rememberthat night that it happened. I was
just hurt. I was outside,I was trying, And initially when I
got the news, I have twocousins named Kellen, and I thought it

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was not the one I was thinkingof, and the one that I wasn't
thinking of its a lot closer tome. And so when I was downstairs,
I was kind of like, man, this is not this is sad,
like that kid just barely learned myname this summer. And my sister
came in and she was like,no, it was it was kell and
Air and I just broke into tears, and you know, instantly started thinking

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why, why, Why? Whyme? Why this? It's my fault,
It's it's this fault, you know, all those things. So it
took a kind of a toll onme. But after that moment, a
couple months later, in school,instead of kind of being I wouldn't say
a bully, instead of trying toand instead of being someone who could be

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better, I looked around and I'dalways see people that kind of turned into
a paranoia thing. It was like, dude, no one knows what that
person's going to. Like I couldactually see that because I lost someone who
I didn't see was going through itright, So I'd always it was kind
of like I was paranoida. Iwas like, hey, I like your
shoes. Hey I like this,And even if it wasn't authentic, I
knew that maybe I was bringing alittle bit of joy in their life.
And so that year went on.Um, I don't think too much of

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it. I still am trying tobe a nice kid. Right. I
go through high school, sophomore,junior year, really year, junior year
comes up that anniversary date my cousinpassing about two or three years now,
right, I'm like thinking, inmy head, I've had millions of ideas
of clothes and different things to selland whatnot. And since when I was

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a seventh grader, I was sellingfidget spinners, and like we had one
of our friends dads to drop shippingcompanies, so we were able to sell
them for him. And we hadbeen making just like hundreds of dollars thousands
of dollars off all these little youknow, from like selling soda on a
soda belt, walking around the school. I always trying to get something out
to people was fun for me,and it never really was about the money,

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because if I wanted to make money, i'd go, you know,
start mowing lawns. Really serious andget like serious about that. But I
really liked giving someone something. Itwas always fun to me, you know,
giving people a deal, talking deals, different things like that. So
anyway, then I started wanting todo clothing design, but I can never
land on the exact idea. Ihad done like a lot of different things
in art classes that I came upwith and it was nothing anything crazy.

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And so then one night I wasI had heard the quote something about the
world. Someone said the world's agreat place while you're here, something along
those lines, and I was like, I like that. I don't want
to, you know, take thoseexact words. So I went on ascribe
a blank T shirt in my room, which is actually or right here,

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and I wrote the world's a betterplace with you, and it just with
my handwriting on this T shirt.And I didn't think much of it.
I thought it was cool. Iwas like, yeah, that's sweet,
but I just drewing a T shirt. It's nothing special. So put the
T shirt back in the drawer.And about a year later, come senior
year. Senior year, I hadby now collected a lot of clothes and

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different things. I was like,dude, I got to wear a different
shirt every day to school this year, It's gonna be so cool. I
didn't think of making content for anythinglike that, but I was like,
I'm gonna wear a different cool outfitevery single day. I have, you
know, the things to do it. Let's let's try it. Why not
though I would, I just leavewaist and I got like the first week
of school, I started thinking aboutmy cousin. I was thinking, you
know, start of the year,it's a hard time for people that accept

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you know sometimes when you when youlose people. So I was like,
all right, let's wear this shirt. It was. It fit me still
somehow I put it on. Iwore it to school and there were some
kids that made fun of me forit. They were like, you drew
on a T shirt? And itwas close friends too. And then I
had a buddy, my friend Jed, said if you make that a T

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shirt, all buy it. Andhearing that from someone kind of gave me
a little glimpse of oh, youwould wear like a shirt that I made,
Like, that's kind of cool.So again I didn't think too much
of it. I went home.Some people like the shirt, you know,
some people laugh whatever about them.That that August I was making a
couple of tiktoks. I had tenk at the time, and the ten

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k was from some random video thatblew up that I wasn't even in it
or anything. I had also thrownthis crazy party that summer that I helped
promote, some crazy party that blewup and got a couple more thousand.
It was, but my TikTok wasnothing to do with me. And then
in school I started I was like, dude, I feel like my life's

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kind of funny and fun when Imake it that way, It's like,
why not like show it to theinternet. So I started posting like little
skits and different things that I'd bedoing at school. And one of the
things that this, uh, thisthing, it's funny. I'm going off
like the clothing line and then alsothe line of how I did TikTok just

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to contrast them. I started makingthis face behind people at school. But
it was a fun but it wasall It was all kicks and videos.
But I would I like this,I'd go behind people and I'd have them
on the shoulder and then when theyturned around, I'd look away and the
videos were just doing insane. Itwas like eight million views of video,
ten million views of video whatever,crazy numbers, and a lot of people

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like oh. They were like,oh, the girls are really pretty and
I'm, you know, good friendswith some of these girls. So we'd
start making videos, right. Ilanded some really cool sponsorships from these things
and different things, and doing thesewith the girls. It was super fun
because it was like, oh,man, we're all friends, we're all
making videos, and it's all goingup. Meanwhile, yeah, I was
getting bullied and made fun of alot. I tried not to talk about

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it too much, but I thinksome people were thinking, oh, well,
he has enough followers that it's okayto make fun of you. There
were people that used to be friendswith me that were really rude, people
who I know their families and thingslike that that I'd you'd never expect them
to be mean, but it iswhat it is. But I would.
I would make these videos. AndI had a creator reach out. His
name's Joshy Washy on TikTok. Hehad like three million followers all kindness videos.

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He's like, Hey, what's yournumber, and I like send him
in and he's like, dude,I just want you to know to sent
me this in a voice about Hewas like, dude, I just want
you to know, like your videosaren't just popping because like it's a funny
trend. He's like, yeah,that has a truth to it. But
what you're good at is doing randomstuff that brings people out of their comfort
zone. And that is when Imade the switch on TikTok. I was

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like, Okay, he's got apoint. What he saw was that,
Okay, this kid's doing random stuffto people in public. It kind of
helps break your social anxiety barrier.Oh I can't I can't even smile or
wear a certain outfit out. Well, this kid's looking like an idiot out
in public. What like, whatam I to not do something? Right?

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So when he said that to me, my video started shifting more to
the funny, like doing faces somethinglike that too. I was doing these
videos where I had fake ask girlsout on dates things that I was like,
Okay, yeah, it's corny,it's fake. I'm gonna get made
fun of for it, but atleast I know the people that are watching
this are resonating with it because I'mdoing something that might be out of their
comfort zone. So whether the videowas staged or not, I knew that

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I was helping someone feel a littleeasier. So my content started growing pretty
quick. I went up to likethree u K by December, and I
wasn't even planning on TikTok. Imean I never did. I still will
never feel like a TikToker. I'llhave kids come up to me at airports,
all being Disney World wherever I am. Kids like, dude, I

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love your views because I have likea lot of views and stuff, and
like some account like I had avideo get like one hundred million views throughout
different sources and accounts. But eventhough there is all that, I don't
see myself like it. So itwas really nice to be like, Okay,
what else can I do? LikeI'm not a TikToker, so what
else am I do? So Ithought this shirt? I was like,
you know what, this kid mentionedit, let's you know, let's try

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it out. So my cousin Tanner, he owns a place called the Shirt
Stop and they do big companies likeLonely Goes A twenty four some some big
creators, and I was like,dude, what are the chances we could
get my T shirt on, like, you know, a T shirt?
And he got me the blank backand I posted on Snapchat and some random
kid from like two hours away,and I was like, I was like,

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hey, like you made these shirts, I'll hand deliver them to you.
I'd like, you know, themup for a little. I attached
handwritten notes of reason to be happyin the first like seven hundred were all
different reasons, which was like insaneevery day right in them at school whatever.
The first kid was from like twohours away, and he's like,
I'll buy one, like he venmowedme right then on the spot, and

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I was like, oh, man, like I don't know how I'm hand
delivering this, so ry in deletethe story and I canceled out everywhere outside
of my county that I live in. I was like, all right,
everybody who lives in Utah County,snap me if you want this, I'm
selling it for like thirty bucks,you know, let me know. And
dude, like in an hour,I was at dinner with my family.

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I had like hundreds of replies andI'd sold the thirty that I had that
I could make. At the time, it was only allowed like thirty my
cousins. So he's like, let'sjust try thirty if he can do that.
So I do it and I'm like, dude, what some Like two
weeks later, I do it againand I do like sixty, and I'm
like, okay, let's yeah,let's do sixty. And then like a
week later, I'm like, I'mI'm going all in. And now it's

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like November. It's December. First, I guess I find out what Shopify
is. I call my brother Hayden. He does private equity, private where
people invest whatever. Sorry I can'teven think of the exact description for his
job, but kind of like aprivate equity firm, and I just know
he's good with numbers and money andthings like that. So I was like,

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hey, dude, like, canyou help me like put taxes and
shipping on this. I'd love tolike put this on the internet and then
maybe people can just go to awebsite. I had no idea what I
was doing. No matter how manythings I'd sold in junior high in high
school, this was a lot different, and so I put it out there.
I made this video on TikTok.I'd warn the shirt a few times

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and people like, dude, where'sthat shirt from? I was like,
Okay, maybe it's catching a littleattention. I posted the video. It's
like, hey, guys, how'sit going. A few of you been
asking me about this in my recentvideos, like this is kind of my
story, and I shared with everythingthat I said a little quicker and just
said I've lost many to suice side, because throughout my high school years,

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I've lost a teammate, three classmates, and a cousin, and over Christmas
break on Christmas Eve, another cousin, and so it's definitely played a big
part in my life. So Iwas I was so ready to send it
out to the internet. And Iposted this video and at the time,
friends, everything that I was doingkind of died down, you know,

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wasn't pulling in views left and rightlike I was during when I was making
the funny videos or when I wastalking to girls and videos different things.
And I posted it just like youknow whatever, maybe maybe someone will see
it and it will make their daybetter. And I went and started I
was playing basketball as my friends andI just kept hearing my phone call,
you know, going, and thevideo is blowing up and I'm like,

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okay, what And and the nextmorning I wake up and four hundred people
had ordered a T shirt, andit was weird because like I didn't want
to tell anybody I was this isIt's like such a pri of a thing.
And still this day, like I'venever talked money numbers to people,
but I remember I posted on Snapchatme picking up all the shirts, folding

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them whatever. I like doing allthe production myself, so I'll go pick
them up, fold them with mymom, who literally does everything to help
me with this. But I postedon Snapchat and every kid that's my age
at the time, you know,we're senior's eyes. Dude, how much
money are you making? Dude?What? And like that idea didn't even
cross my mind. Dude. Iwas so caught up in like just reading

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Oh sweet Illinois, Okay, awesome, Michigan, what you know? Like
okay, heck, like can Ithrow an extra shirt in? Like what
can I do? You know?Spicings of this is so fun and it
was. It was crazy. Itwas insane, And then I ended up
selling like a couple thousand more fromthat video. The video got like two
million views whatever, couple other videos, and then as year went on,

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I kind of slowed down on TikTok. Still made videos and stuff, but
it was weird. I'd pull themlike millions of views, but followers,
you know, and I don't.It is what it is. I don't
consider myself TikToker. I'm just youknow, kid who puts some videos out
there. As summer came, Iwent and did summer sales, which is,
you know, door to door sales, kind of gave up on TikTok
for a little came back, posteda couple of videos. They got a

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couple of million views, and I'dsee the things coming kind of on the
tees, you know, because it'sthe pin video. Then August came,
I'm starting I'm starting college. I'mlike, kay, dude, TikTok,
I gotta kind of focus on somethings that really matter. It was a
cool thing to do. Let's moveforward. I don't post for a little
bit, and then like October orlike September, I'm like, kay,
I'm not even joining the app.I like delete the app for like a

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month. Get back on first video. I post twelve million views. Ah
man, dude, they want meback. And then I'm like no,
no, no, no, no, Jackson, you got lucky again.
I did help off the app again, and then October comes I post my
Halloween outfit fourteen million views. I'mlike, dude, what's going on?
Why is it? I don't wantto I don't want to pursue it again.

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But it's like begging, you know. And then like it was just
a couple million views each video andwhatever, and then I kind of I
was like, Okay, slow downagain. Christmas break happens, and I'm
so sorry. I'm going off onthis tand you got I mean, if
you guys need cut out any We'realmost there. We're almost to the friends
of the day, Christmas Day happensor Christmas December happens. I'm like barely

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on it. I'm focused on finalschool, you know, families home for
the break, we're hanging out.Um and uh. Meanwhile, I was
also preparing to go on a mission, which is when you leave your family,
friends, social media things like thatfor two years. So you know,
social media isn't all my mind toomuch. Um and you the mission,

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I mean, I could get moreinto that, but it's basically,
I go serve the Lord. Iget to invite people to christ um and
service things to it. Anyway,December comes really slow time, Christmas Eve,
Christmas morning, we get the newsthat another cousin of mine passed away
um the night before, and dude, it broke us apart. I mean,

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it was a beautiful thing to seeour family all come together, but
it broke me apart. And soI went to bed the two nights after.
Ever, when I was going tobed, I had this gut feeling
too okay, So I'll share thisto you guys. I was I was
right before I went to bed.It's kind of tiredness where you're like,

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dude, I am going to sleep. This phone's not getting plugged in,
right, I'm tired as I'm likehitting the pillow and you could call me
crazy. But my cousin that passedaway, Demi, I heard her voice
say open TikTok, and dude,I was like, there's no way,
like process of elimination. You're overthinking, that's not real. What the heck?

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Right? So I'm like open.So I opened TikTok and the first
video is Jack right, and heactually he never ordered one of my teas,
but I sent one to one ofhis friends and he wore the T
shirt in a couple of his videos, so I knew he had seen it.
So that was kind of the firstlike, okay, that's where you're

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jack. Jack right posted a videoabout his story of when he was going
to take his life, and itwas a beautiful video of him talking about
why he stayed and why he's here. I loved it. It resonated so
well. He had this pretty soundwith it. It was a slideshow.
I was like, Okay, thisis what I'm supposed to make, So
I make this video, go tobed next morning. Tell my brother.
He's like, out of respect,let's not post it. You know,

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this is two nights ago. Youknow. We're really close with our cousins
that you know. My aunt's likemy best friend, my aunt Tory,
She's just a saint. I'm notposting anything to you know. But also
in the back of my mind,my cousin that passed away, we would
always talk about TikTok and stuff.She would always be like, I saw
this guy comment on your video.I know him, And then it would

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be like someone who's friends with me. But I'm like, yeah, like,
you know, like maybe hyped aboutit. And her mom and my
mom both big supporters on my TikTok. So TikTok kind of bonded a little
bit. And so anyway, Itell my sister and my mom and they're
like, I think you should postit. I post the video and it
gets like right now, I thinkit's at like three point five million views.
And I've never been connected now withbigger names in this industry and people,

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and the numbers of what I soldjust I sold, you know,
like I said, I sold quitea bit last year, you know,
a couple of thous I ended upat like six or seven thousand products out,
you know, and I'd done hoodieslast year, but it was nothing.
But now this year, I havea couple of things on the website
and whatnot, and dude, thisvideo just blew all those things out of

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the water. I mean it's justI don't mention them. But the numbers
of products we sold was just nothingI would have ever expected, right,
doubled tripled whatever what I did lastyear. And I just knew it was
like my cousin, you know,here she has her body, her spirit,
it's leaving the earth, right.It was like she was just sprinkling

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that video around while she was goingit because I mean, you know,
different countries are buying I had,like I was, I was looking at
my orders and while I saw itlike I was, like I said,
there was some big people comedy.The owner of Hype House, Thomas Petro,
sent me just a really nice text. He was like, dude,
I love what you're doing something alongthose lines. Just really he's a very

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nice guy. Like he I senthim a T. I'd see some big
LA names. I saw it.I don't know if you guys know two
turned. Tony commented on the videohe's like a big creator. And then
I was I was really curious.I was like, well, I wonder
if there's other like people that areordering over in like Cali. So I
looked up like some order numbers andI saw Los Angeles. I was like

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looking it up and I saw VinnieHacker ordered two ts, and I was
like, hey, this is reallycool. Like these big people that I'd
loved to meet and like talk toand give T shirts if I could or
thing, and dude, like fivehundred dms on Instagram. People are telling
me their stories. I get totalk to them and it was the most
beautiful, full thing. And stillto this day it's over, it's still

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coming through. I posted on Instagramgot a million views on the reels and
I'm just here like I can relateto people, I can talk to them
in this message is everywhere right now, you know, and that's that's where
I am at the present day.Wow, that's that's absolutely incredible. There's
so much to really unpack there.But thank you for sharing that story because

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that that definitely means a lot toyou, and um you know that that's
something that's the reason why we're startingthis podcast too, is that, um
no one really knows the backstory thatto a lot of creators like yourself that
have incredible stories like this. Yeah. So yeah, that's that's that's incredible.
That's so powerful too, is uh. I mean you see like how

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just having that simple message just youknow, can resonate with everyone and it
makes a huge impact. Yeah,so that's I mean, that's really awesome
too. Yeah man, Yeah,it's been really cool, really cool so
far. I didn't even mention this, but there was when I was mentioning
you guys about reading those dms andstuff when people are opening up I had

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I've had three three different people sendme pictures they got it the exact printing
tattooed on themselves. So some thingslike that, and I remember the first
message I read. And not thatI've had you know, hundreds whatever.
No, no, not that I'vehad lots of messages hereafter this message that
I'm about to tell you, Ihad someone the first message that said you

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saved me just broke me, man, I mean tears, wow, like
what. And I've had, youknow, a couple after tell me.
I had somebody say that they orderedthe T shirt and the day it got
there, they were wearing it.They walked into their brother's room and say,
hey, I'm going out with friendsto night, and she said her

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little brother just started crying and said, I was planning on take my life
this night. You're whatever T shirtyou're wearing saved me and it and I
can show the T shirt right here, But it was the kids seeing this
right, knowing that that message savedhim. It just, you know,
it's hard to it's hard to gatherthe why did I lose so many people?

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But then to know that they're savingso many people really right now,
it's a beautiful thing. Yeah,yeah, absolutely, And I'm sure like
along with like it's such a strongmessage on that shirt for sure, and
I'm sure just along with that andyour you know, your personality of wanting
to um, you know, makepeople's day better and through your videos,

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I think it just connects with people. So well, yeah, thank you
that that means a lot to me. You're welcome, man, Yeah,
definitely. UM, but let's let'sum yeah, I'm curious about more um
as well as like the clothing wentdid um? I guess was that all

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within a like a year time spanor was that? Yeah, what was
kind of the timeline of Yeah,so that August of my senior year last
year was so about a year anda half in now, but it was
all so quickly in that time becauseI'd always made dumb videos and whatnot,
like as a junior in high school, a sophomore or whatever. But senior

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year I did start since I kindof had a little bit, I knew
it was the perfect time to tryand post. And dude, this is
so embarrassing saying to this day,but I'm proud that I did it.
I was posting like nine times aday at one point, I mean,
anything that came to my head.I wasn't leaven in the drafts, you
know, and so it would justit came really quick and like I said,

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I went up to the three hundredK mark at like Christmas time,
not this last Christmas, the onebefore, and then like kind of like
slowed down. And then I'd goup a little bit in the summer,
and it was just kind of likethis I wasn't assistant, so it would
be there, and then like thispath video I posted, So I was
at like four hundred k for awhile, and then in October this year,

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I just posted some crazy videos andthis last video that I posted about
my shirts and what it meant tome, I went from like four hundred
to five hundred k like that,you know, Yeah, yeah, but
yeah I did. Um, Ithink I did see that video. I
think the first video I saw ofyours was the where you're like making the
faces behind them, and yeah,I think those went just crazy viral,

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right, you said, yeah,that's one twelve mill. Yeah, they
were. They'd get like ten millor so on TikTok, and then meme
accounts started posting them and like,you know, they already have ten million
followers, so they'd get like fifteenmill whatever, and they'd like accumulate probably
like thirty apiece. But that's whatgrew my Instagram because a lot of TikTok
to Instagram ratios are really small,usually your Instagram. They're not following your

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Instagram. But I was on alot of meme accounts, and I was
also on a lot of relationship accountsbecause I would do, all right,
boys, you want some free game, and then I'd like tell them like
some things they could do at partiesor when they meet someone, and people
would see those on Instagram and thenfollow my Insta even though I wasn't posting
reels at the time. Yeah,yeah, now that's cool. Are you

(27:21):
posting reels now? Yes. Istarted posting them in December and I posted
on my Instagram. I was like, hey, guys, super excited to
start posting reels. I think Iwas at like sixty k or so and
I've gone up to like one hundredfive, which is pretty cool. I'm
now because I leave My best reelso far, I think is like eight
point five million. It's like growingevery day. It's crazy, Like Instagram

(27:42):
reels is nuts. But I leaveApril fourth, and I might still be
I have this content idea of whatI'm gonna do while I'm gone. I'm
trying to conduct these interviews right nowof asking people what's the lowest they've been,
how they escaped, like really deepquestions. And while I'm on my
two year mission and I'm away fromthe Internet and things, I want those

(28:02):
posted. But meanwhile I'm posting likefive in the morning, five at night
on Instagram, so I can tryto push out all the content I already
made way back and then anything newwill be fresh in just kindness videos.
Oh, that's a good idea.That's that is good. Yeah, I'm
super excited for that. It's alittle kind of confusing on the head posting

(28:23):
riels even though I've already made thevideos and stuff. It's it's tough to
you know, you gotta find likeWright songs, right, things that still
match today. Now these are videosI did last year, but it was
weird. I was at I wasat a skating rink and I had a
kid and he's like, oh,you're the kid from Instagram reels and I
was like, ah, like Ilove it. But not getting known from

(28:45):
Instagram rol that's a different story.That's it's just kind of funny. Yeah,
that is. It's it's funny yousay that because it used to be
the opposite. Yeah, I feellike Instagram and YouTube you'd want to be
recognized, and then TikTok you likenever want to be recognized. Yeah,
you're like that's so much. Yeah, but then now it's like, okay,

(29:06):
if they're like they've seen my videos, it's like they'll be like,
oh, you're the kid that doesthe face or like like I was in
Mississippi and these guys started doing thephase of the guys that was like a
year and a half ago. Comeon, like, but yeah, it
is different now, Like when youget recognized from Instagram. I was like,
ah, Like imagine getting like Facebookreels recognized. He'd be like,
what checking out at a grocery storeand the old dude behind he's like seeing
you on my reels page, Like, dude, like that it didn't happen,

(29:30):
but you know right right, Yeah, that's definitely the crowd. That's
funny, Like the audience will getolder and older like yeah right, but
yeah that's good. So I wasgoing to ask too, is um I
guess going back into the beginning ofthis timeline, what was I guess because

(29:52):
you you started in freshman year inhigh school for your TikTok or yeah,
like sophomore freshman year, like itwas just dumb videos though all over okay,
but you had you said you hadlike around ten k plus. Yeah,
I hit the ten so I hadlike a thousand followers for like sophomore
junior year and literally, dude,I would still cook videos like I gave
myself credit because I thought I wasfunny looking back, so cringe now,

(30:15):
but in the moment, I waslike, dude, like this is okay
um. And then when I startedgrowing, I posted this video of ants
on my TikTok dumbest thing ever,dude. It was a pile of ants
and I would never actually harm ananimal, but it I was like what
should I do with them? Andit was that stupid audio was like limited,
I don't know some other language audioand I can't even think. It

(30:38):
was like if i'd be a dada da da whatever, There's some crazy
audio and then like the video isjust kind of hectic. But the video
got like two million views. Iwent to like nine k, ten k
followers, and then a party teamin Utah was throwing a party at my
friend's house and his manner it's thisbeautiful home, and I made a TikTok
for it in the video got likeforeign JK views, but I mean kids

(31:00):
from out of state were coming tothis party. Party did like had like
thousands of kids there whatever. Butand that's when I first started to getting
the small amount of oh like thiskid's the kid threw a party on TikTok
and I went up to like fourteenk, but then it was like stayed
and then I posted and when Istarted really growing, I'd posted videos with
my best friend's sage and we'd actlike we were a couple and they'd get

(31:22):
like a couple thousand, couple thousandfollowers, a couple of thousand whatever,
And then the scream is when itwas like okay, ten k, twenty
k, thirty k, you knowthat kind of growth. And meanwhile I'd
post whatever video, dude, ifwe were like if if I can't even
like if I was doing a podcastright now, back then, I'd pull
out my phone and be like justfilming the crazy podcast. I fight a

(31:45):
bearonet. I could say whatever Iwanted, and like my audience was like,
you know, thirteen fourteen year oldkids, I think, and so
I'd always cater to that. I'di'd make videos if there was a girl
sitting next to me or a dudesaying, actually, I'd be like,
my best friend just broke up withthis girl, like like what should we
do? And didn't happen? Youknow what I mean? But like I
keep some authenticity but also some humorto be like then people are like this

(32:07):
kid like just post whatever you wantweird life, but I want to follow,
you know, kind them all overyou know. Yeah, so that
was kind of like the growth there. Yeah, no, that's that's awesome,
Yeah, because I think I thinkthe hard part is people try to
stick with like one thing and thenkeep posting that. But I think with

(32:27):
what a lot of people like tosee is just that whole you know,
random back behind the scenes, likeyou know, that real person. Yeah,
dude, I think I think creatorscan I think you know, sometimes
yeah they say it, they think, oh well if I stick to one
thing, more people will be loyalfollowers. But I didn't get dude,
if you have talent, show doyou do? You guys know GM Castle

(32:47):
on TikTok Uh. He's the funniestguy. He just throws backflips everywhere and
he's just talented at everything. Hedoes. But same principle, dude can
do everything, and so he showedeverything, and there's I promise you there's
things like he's probably good at hedoesn't show on the internet, but just
a prime example of that. Imean, he's gone up like to two
million followers almost in the span ofone year just doing random stuff. You

(33:13):
know. Yeah, is that peoplelike that? I think? Really,
what's that? I was just gonnasay, is that the guy with the
shaved head? Yeah, and hethat dude is like demos. I think
another reason he is so good onthe internet is he is the most authentic
person dude. Like, not onlyare his videos all pretty seriously real because
that's what he does, but whenhe was at like twenty k followers or

(33:37):
something, he was pretty popular onTikTok An think for like snowboard snowboard videos.
At the time, I followed himbecause I was I bought my first
skateboard and he was the first creator. I was like, dude, this
guy's a funny skateboard or whatever.Followed him and at the time I had
like three hundred k. He followedme back and he's I was like,
what's up Brown, He's like,hey, and then like two hours later
of your plans like, dude,you're a legend. What like you rock?

(33:58):
Like he was like because like Ithink he had just responded like you
know, you just see someone wasprobably like what's up, you know,
and then he like, dude,you're a legend. Like let me know
if you're ever. He lives likethirty minutes that way for me at the
time, and he's like, letus know if you're ever up here.
And then dude, like I startedseeing him grow and he like one time
he asked me, he was likehe was just joking because he started kind
of growing, like he was goingquick. He was doing funny videos with

(34:20):
his cousin Daniel, and he textedme He's like, what's the secret sauce?
And I was like, is thisa DESNTS joke? But then like
this is uh, Like he's like, what is there any TikTok Like what's
the best TikTok route or something?Because I think that's at the time he
was going to quit his job andtake TikTok serious. And I was like,
dude, gave him this rundown.And then I was like I have
the text from when he was justnearing one hundred cows like, I see

(34:43):
you becoming one of the biggest creatorson this app tenement. Nicest dude ever.
Every time you'd see each other inpublic, tap me up, say
what's up. I did a photoshoot for this clothing line. He's probably
one of the busiest people I couldhave texted. He made it. He
was there, He got everybody riledup and had a good time. Just
a really solid dude. But that'swhere I was saying with that was people.

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The creators that do really well,I think are just the ones who
are really authentic. They're good atthings, and they know how to cater
to their audience. You know,like if there was like comments talking about
dude, do a double backfloop again, he'd be like, you know,
I saw you guys in the commentstalking about you know what I mean?
He just kind of knew adicated,and that's what I would do. I
would any comment I saw. Fora while, I had this kind of

(35:25):
series where I'd apologize, So whenpeople would be rude in the comments,
I'd just give him an authentic apology. Like if I wore cowboy clothes and
they didn't want that, I'd belike what's up at Daniel whatever you know,
whatever the name was, and belike, what's up at Daniel.
I'm super sorry if I offended you. I hope this makes up for it,
and be like me riding a horseor something like you know what I
mean, Like I'd always trying tokeep those things rolling, But that too,

(35:50):
has been something fun. I thinkin TikTok is shooting any advice I
can to anybody. I don't knowtoo much, but I know a little
bit of like just a basic things. And I have like some friends who
I think I've given some pretty goodadvice to. And that's like kind of
my my fun the fun thing aboutit to me, Yeah, that's really
good. And I I know,um, it's always like there's these niche

(36:15):
accounts or or like company accounts thatare like show them sewing or or what
product they sew or whatever. ButI never actually thought of it, like
show what you're good at, likeas obvious as that seems like, I've
never thought of it like that,right, Yeah, it's like it's kind
of different. It's you know,you can show whatever you want, dude.
Yeah yeah, yeah, but Ithink, um like a good a

(36:38):
good um. I guess. Conceptthat I did notice about um that that
one guy's videos too, is thatit's kind of like an MTV style and
I feel like or like, youknow, just a rough you know,
just whatever goes kinda And I thinkthat is what that like a lot of
people just crave that because everything solike almost you know, put together perfectly.

(37:00):
But yeah, and it's like youwant to watch that. It keeps
you excited, and he's like authentic, he's funny, he's got it going.
I think I think if you,I think anybody who wants to be
a creator on that app could gowatch his videos for hours and learn a
thing or two about themselves and whatthey're posting. Yeah. No, absolutely,
and I think I think you Yeah, that's That's the other um like

(37:22):
characteristic that you do really well withyour videos is that you know, you're
you respond directly to those people andit's just you know, you you and
you clue them in on your life. That's kind of what everyone they want
to they want to know, likewhat's going on with your life? Right?
Yeah? Inside, just post it. I love that. That's how
I should have said. Just whatyou said, Yeah, include them in.

(37:44):
Yeah, that's true. Plus,I guess the more people that see
that, they're like, oh wow, Like the more attraction you kind of
get because it's like more and morepeople see it, more and more comments,
and they see more people reacting toit, so it's like, yeah,
snowball effect. Yeah, I wouldliterally gonna effect. Dude. That's
like the best way to if youhave a video doing well, post post,

(38:05):
post, keep posting. If youif you know a lot of views
are coming and the comment section isfunny, reply to a comment, dude,
They're gonna tap on that and gettingthis this snowball and it's just gonna
keep going bigger and bigger. That'sone one hundred. That is the best
advice you could give to any personwho wants to make content. Figure out
a way to do your own snowballeffect, whether whatever that is, you
know, right, that's yeah,And we've definitely fallen into it before,

(38:30):
where it's like we're kind of likeadd with how we post, or at
least in the past, how weposted, because we'd get like, say,
a viral video would go off,and then we'd be like, all
right, well let's do something elseor let's do this, um, and
we just never really thought people wantedto see the same thing, and then
it's like, no, that's whatyou're supposed to do. People want to
see Yeah, and you could youever have you guys ever regretted like,

(38:52):
oh I could have totally ran thatvideo like four more times and like that
would have guy like that many morefars whatever. Yeah, I've that.
I think that that thought comes toa lot of people. Oh I could
have done more with that series,you know. Yeah, No, there's
a lot of stuff, like westopped posting for a while, like I
don't know, just I feel liketaking breaks on your account can be tough

(39:13):
because it's like, you know,what does well in that moment, and
then you almost have to kind ofrestart, right m dude, that is
so yeah, that's real. Butum, but yeah, I did want
to I was really curious. Ididn't want to get us like, you
know, jumping around to different topics, but I did want to get back
to, um, you know,you're acting and how you started out in

(39:37):
that, because that's a really interestingpart of your life. Yeah dude.
Um, So, like I said, some of the time I was a
kid, I wasn't afraid to beon a screen. I would make dumb
YouTube videos as a little kid onsome random account with my friends, things
like that. So when the ideacame around, I think my dad was
like, have you ever thought aboutacting? My Dad's like the least person

(39:58):
that ever say something like that,But I think he said probably a joke,
but like I remember it kind ofringing a bell. And so I
looked up like every like night,even as like a seventh grader, I'd
be searching. I'm trying to thinkof the exact rich I'd say, dumb
stuff like free acting, open roles, casting calls, utah ages thirteen to

(40:22):
you know what I mean. I'dreally tried to do it, and I
didn't even have like agent or anythingat the time, and then we ended
up. I forgot who the namewas. Also, I wouldn't say that
they were doing too well, soI wouldn't want to give them credit or
his credit. But I ended up. When I was doing that stuff for
Disney Channel or before I did thestuff with Disney Channel, and some of
the stuff with Disney Channel, youwere you were able to anybody kind of

(40:46):
could do it, like you justfind somewhere to sign up, right,
But for mine, it was likeI did a I signed up with this
company. I went and had anaudition with them, with the or a
casting call with the company, didwell, and then they started landing me
a bunch of things Fannymac. Itwasn't just oh, you're joining that Facebook
post the group that's like, hey, can you guys make it my company?

(41:06):
Whatever. They were helping me getto it. They were like,
hey, like you can come this, this, this, this, and
this day. And I felt likeI was getting more time than maybe if
you were just some random kid signingup right, And so I started doing
that and I went out to Lathe summer after acting and I did an
open casting call. If you searchmy name on YouTube, there's super embarrassing

(41:29):
video of me doing it. Butwe'll say I landed like twenty something callbacks
and a bunch of agents. We'reasking like, hey, we'd love to
have you. Because I was alittle short, chubby, redhead kid.
Dude, those are the best peoplein a movie, you know. I
mean, they're not a main character, but they're they're the side character that's
funny. And so I was definitelywanting to go back out and do it.

(41:51):
We talked about are we going tomove in LA for the summer,
and then I made the choice tostick with sports. But in my acting
times, it was really fun.I became friends with the cast. I
became friends with people outside of thecast, but we're friends with the cast
that they were friends with me.And in the industry, in acting,
in TikTok and anything, it's verysmall. I'm sure you guys already know

(42:14):
that, but you know it's everybodyknows somebody that knows someone right, right,
And so I my friend, LikeI said, Darius June was just
a stud and I don't need totalk about it. And I don't think
any castmates were rude or anything,but he went out of his way to
be nice. He reached out.He literally he called me last week and

(42:34):
said, hey, I'd love todrive out to Utah and come spend some
time with you before you leave onyour mission. And I was like,
dude, that that means a lot. And I'm actually I'm going to La
to stay with Damien and him nowon the kid's birthday. So I'm really
grateful for that relationship. But actingwas like that was definitely what I wanted
to do. I was doing itin high school. I was having fun

(42:58):
in elementary, I was doing plays, and then when it all got there,
it kind of it's a very scarierthing than you'd expect, dude,
Like you watch how they act onset and it's like, oh, what
the Like they gotta redo the samescene fifty times and if it's a man,
it's a ten second scene like thisis insane, you know, and
then like okay, you stop,you go eat, you come back as

(43:21):
a background person. You're not doingthe hard work. So it's fun.
It's easy for a day, butum, if you if you're doing that
every single day, right, Ithink it can be a little crazy.
So that was another reason I waslike, well, sports, on the
bright side, it won't wear meout, I think as much as acting
would. And it was just itwas a tough decision, but I ended
up picking sports, and I wasreally grateful that I did because in the

(43:43):
end, you know, TikTok cameback and made fun things like that,
right right, Yeah, no,absolutely, um, And I think it
did cut out a little bit.Um, so we can kind of just
oh yeah, I said in myInternet, Yeah, which which part did
it cut? I think I justthe tent like where you said it takes
like ten seconds for acting, justkind of I guess get back into the

(44:04):
like what it's like on set.Yeah, So on set it's really cool.
It's exciting because it's like, oh, wow, you're by these kids
that you see on TV and yousee a big dude, you see a
big camper. It's a cool feeling, you know what I mean. Yeah,
you're eating snacks in the meanwhile.But it's like, you go act,
You're doing ten twenty, thirty,forty fifty whatever takes for a ten

(44:29):
second scene. It's like whoa,Like, is it really like this worth
it to me to have to dothis every day and learn your role and
all those things. And so Ijust kind of thought it was more fun
being in the background and stuff,and so I kind of opted out of
that. But I was still gratefulfor the memories and relationships that I made

(44:49):
through I had. I had afriend on not the set of Andy Mack,
but on a different Disney show thatm was friend I think with the
Andy Matt kids, and I thinkI was maybe like they shared my story
not this story, my Instagram storyon their account or something. But you

(45:09):
guys know, Jenna Ortega, Ohyeah, yeah, she commented on one
of my like old Instagram posts whenI was a freshman or like an eighth
grader doing acting. She commented,cute and like that's still to this day
of my favorite comment I got onmy Instagram because he's like crazy big now.
But at the time, it waslike, like I said, everybody's
connected with everyone, So if youwere friends with one kid, it was

(45:31):
easy for another kid to be friendswith you, right, So I don't
even I think she might have followedme for a small moment in time,
but just like having those like littleconnections was kind of cool, you know.
It was like kids I watched onTV growing up. I had a
when I was a little kid.I don't know if you guys remember the
show Walk the Prank. It wassome Disney show or they were like you
just walk the prank, and anyway, I remember because I had a mutual

(45:54):
connection the main actor at the time, his name is Cody Veth, and
I friend, I was friends offriends with him, but we never knew
each other, and then we gotto know each other, and now he's
like someone I could go FaceTime rightnow and we could talk for an hour.
But at the time it was likejust some superstar to me. And
so going into that industry was kindof cool because it was like I got
connected with people really well. Andwhen I got bigger on TikTok, Instagram,

(46:20):
whatever, not that it mattered ifI had more followers than what they
had now, but it was likeweird. It was like they took care
of me when I was a smallercreator and now I'm just as big or
I'm maybe a little smaller. Likewe've got each other's back, you know,
so I you're able to kind offind the real ones in that industry.
But it's a it's a it's anexciting, a crazy and a cool
industry. Right yeah, yeah,now just all over, just like a

(46:44):
quick question, I guess was wasJake Paul in the same time frame that
you were at like Disney or yes, No, he was. Yeah,
so I think he came, likeI think they were starting to film and
at the time, I can't remember, there was a kid on the show,

(47:05):
that Bizarre Vark Show, and wehad a lot of mutual friends,
and I don't know if we everfollowed each other, but I did one
of because I watched Jake Paul asa kid on YouTube for a while,
he had some cool content like hisI think Jake Paul is kind of another
prime example of that. If youhave something and a cool life, just
post about it, you know whatI mean. Like his Team ten,
he was kind of he was thefirst person to do the Hype House,

(47:27):
the Sway House, whatever, thosetype of house. He was one of
the first, you know, bigguys to do that. He got ten
big creators, put them in ahouse, and then it was easier to
make cool videos. It's like,if you have one talent and you post
about it, that's okay. Butthink if you brought ten talents in you
know what I mean, right,But yeah, he was. I think
he was like right after me,if not in that same time, because

(47:47):
I would I would see his stuffabout it, and that was kind of
cool that he did that too.But I think getting the Disney Channel is
definitely a hard thing if you wantto land a main role. I would
talk to my friend about it.He had to go through multiple callbacks and
things like that. So that's likea pretty cool accomplishment. But I do
think if you have a little morecredibility or a little bit bigger can actually

(48:08):
help because I mean, I don'tknow if that was Jake Paul's scenario,
but I think if you have afamous YouTuber on your show, their subscribers
are gonna come watch it too.So yeah, but yeah, I don't
even know if we might have overlappeda little bit, but no, that
was good. Yeah, because Iwas really curious about that because we started

(48:28):
just doing like, you know,small commercials, like local commercials, like
a year ago. I was curiousabout the show because we're kind of,
you know, just trying to youknow, think like, should we go
further into it? Should we justyou know, I guess, dude,
I think you should. I thinktwins, dude, I literally, I
you have no idea. I usedto post about if you guys ever obviously

(48:50):
you didn't, but I used toin high school. I'd always post on
Snapchat twins are the coolest people onEarth. I think it's like so rare.
I'm like, this is awesome.But I think you guys could literally
land more roles than if you weresolo because you guys are twins, and
you guys are not the like there'sugly twins out there, but you guys
are good looking, identical twins,it's like not like, oh, sure

(49:13):
they're twins journal whatever, right,you guys. Actually, I think,
dude, you guys can really jumpin. I mean there's there's multiple I
think there's lots of shows and thingsthat have actually like used twins to their
advantage and it's a it's a coolthing. But I dude, you guys
should get into that. And Ithink just connecting with people. But dude,
that is a I would love tosee that. I'd love to like

(49:36):
get home for my mission and Iturn on the TV and you guys are
like two actors on a show.That'd be great if we uh we timed
that up within two years, thatwould be that would be perfect. Yeah,
but also thank you for the compliment. Yeah, yeah, one percent.
D Yeah, that'd be good.I guess we're kind of gearing more
towards rather than going that like longerroute. We're seeing if we can kind

(50:00):
of leverage our social media to haveour own show on say like um,
snapchat or yeah, I was wantto say whatever like that too. Yeah.
Hm, that'd be really cool,dude, that'd be yeah. And
I mean that's kind of the industrynow you could getting on a TV.
Yeah, that's big, you'll getbig whatever. But like also with what

(50:21):
you got in the connections, itmight be easier and even better to like,
like you said, a snapchat showor something. You know, yeah,
like twins in public. You guyscan make so many. I used
to watch those YouTube videos all thetime, like magic Tricks where it's like
you disappear and then the other twincame from around, you know, stuff
like that. I've always thought aboutyou do stuff like that. Yeah,
that's true. Yeah, no,I mean there's yeah, that's that's the

(50:45):
thing is just kind of like tryingto choose like what to go with now
because there's so many options, rightlike content wise or career wise, Like
it's just hard to pick what,like what, like you know, what
to do in this moment. Yeah, yeah, dude, that's difficult.
Do you guys how old are you? Guys? We're twenty five six?
Yeah, oh yeah, I forgot. You guys have the same person.

(51:10):
I was waiting for two responses,but um, you guys are still so
young. I'm like that. Youguys like and like that those years age
and you guys don't look too oldfor your age too. That's a big
thing in acting is if you lookolder than your actual age, or if
you can look I mean, ifyou look younger than your actual age,

(51:30):
it does well because you guys couldgo you guys, I mean, yeah,
it might be a little absurd,but you guys can still play a
high school senior, you know whatI mean, Like they can make you
look a little younger, but you'renot too far out of there. So
I think I think you guys definitelyhave a high chance in all that all
that stuff. Yeah, that's truebecause that's like, uh, you know
with all these all these big actors, you're like all they got to be

(51:51):
like, you know, nineteen twenty, and then it turns out they're like
thirty seven years old, and you'relike, yeah, dude, it's like,
how are you playing? Yeah,it's nuts. Yeah, we we
play like or like the roles thatwe get like to request an audition for
are it's such a wide range.Like it's like because we're on we're on

(52:14):
like the cusp because like twenty fiveis kind of the cut off either way.
So it's like yeah, but likewe we can like we've played or
we've gotten roles for like dads likelike to forty years old. Basically,
it would be like like high schoolto forty years old, is the role
like when we fit in like wefit in, we fit in either one
of those ranges. I guess dude, that's so legit. You guys have

(52:37):
so much opportunity. Now, thankyou. Well, now that you're saying
it, I'm thinking it because yeah, now now you're hyping me up because
before it's sorry go ahead, nono no, no, no, no,
no, not at all, dude, No no, no. That's
all I'm saying is you're not old, bro, You're you're not old.
But yeah, I guess I guessto get back to you since since we

(53:00):
can only we only have you onfor you know today, Um, I
want to ask more about Um.I guess what, Um, I guess
what's your next kind of step inyour content? You know, like yeah,
because you do have to take toyour break right for your mission?
Hm hm yeah. Um. Soright now, I have I have a

(53:22):
new I wonder if I'm going toshow my mom this this podcast before I
make it. But I have anew T shirt that's coming out and it
says something to do with moms andI'm gonna like surprise her and stuff.
And um, also, I'm liketrying to get it going as soon as
possible because Young Gravy texted me twonights ago and he was like, dude,

(53:43):
would love for you to promo myLike we're buddies on on socials and
he texted me He's like, dude, loved it for you to promo my
song. Like if you or likeyou know, if you want to post
my song, I can get youout to any show, red carpet Gravy
experience. Super nice. He's areal He's Gravy, a really nice guy.
Um. But in that I needto post all my mom content at
that kind of the same time.But I have this new shirt that's coming

(54:06):
out it's about moms. And theother thing is I'm right now trying to
conduct at least fifty interviews asking people. I started with what's the lowest you've
ever been and how did you escape? But I felt like it's a great
question when people are open, Yeah, it's a really great question. But
the problem is I had a kidtell me he was like, well,

(54:28):
when my parents divorced and when Iwas going through this and that it really
sucked. But I don't want totalk about that can I talk about this
instead? I was like, yeah, that's fine, but I realized it
kind of is kind of an almosttwo personal questions. So I think I'm
going to switch it to what's atough decision you've faced in life? Because
I think that's a really that's likea really better and it's gonna throughout least
fifty interviews. There's gonna be alearning curve in all content and anything I've

(54:51):
ever done, I've taught myself,and you'd make that learning curve, right,
So I want to make at leastlike fifty interviews or so and and
tell my mission, tell April.I'm thinking I'm kind of going back to
some of my old content post whateverI want, however much whatever, no
rules, no restrictions, and thenonce I leave, I just want you
know, each week, probably everytwo weeks, you'll see that interview,

(55:15):
that interview, that interview. Maybesome will blow up, maybe they'll all
flop. I don't care because Iknow that whatever I did now, like
whatever little empire, whatever little pyramidI started now of cool things I did,
like, yeah, it's awesome.Two years not that long of time.
I'm going to come back and Iwant to do with something even bigger.
I want to do creative your stuff. Maybe it's not even in the

(55:35):
Internet, maybe it's other stuff.But I have some pretty crazy ideas that
I think are going to work out. I just need to trust in myself
God in time, you know.Yeah, No, absolutely, And I
think it from you know, fromthe outside perspective, it definitely looks like
a lot of things that you putyour mind to, and you know,
everything that you work on works well. So I think I think that's definitely

(55:58):
I appreciate that a lot. Yeah, absolutely, I think that's definitely a
good posibility. Yeah, I'm excitedfor all that. Dude, I'm only
eighteen. I know, I gotlife ahead of me, so I'm not
too afraid to to take my chancesnow while I'm young, you know,
right, Yeah, No, that'sthat's so true. I mean you have
you have like seven years on us. Yeah, so no, dude,

(56:20):
you guys are you guys are killingit? Two dude, we're all gonna
I'm gonna get back in the twoyears. You guys are gonna be up
here. I'm gonna be down here. But I'm just gonna be like,
all right, boys, are wegetting up and we're all gonna be up
together real. But no, thatthat's really good. You do have a
ton of time to try and findwhat kind of content you want to make,
or even just make whatever content likeat the moment too. So yeah,

(56:43):
that's really open and exciting for you. Thank you. That means a
lot, dude, just hearing that, especially from someone who's older, that's
like kind of good big brother adviceright there. Yeah, No, it's
it's definitely um um, I don'tknow, like you know, like I
said before, it's you've done somuch already that you'll you'll have no problem

(57:06):
or you know, just getting backinto the swing of things and just taking
off again. Yeah, like you'repulling like yeah, twelve million views like
you know, like especially right whenyou got back on I think he said,
so um yeah yeah, so you'lldefinitely you'll definitely do well with that.
So thank you, dudes. Getsme so excited. This is the
kind of I need. I needthese kind of commos every day. Man.

(57:29):
Yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, No, it's it's good when
um, I don't know, youcan kind of see eye to eye with
um, you know, other creatorsand stuff, and it it kind of
I don't know it helps out becauseyou're like, Okay, I'm not the
only one stressing about this, youknow, putting out content or stressing out
like is this good content or anythinglike that? Right? Yeah? Um?

(57:50):
Is there is there any like goalsthat you have, um right as
of right now that you like youwant to do career wise or um any
objectives that you want to like hitand accomplish. Yes, yes, I
okay. So my goal actually whenI when I'm back from my mission,
I want to be I want tobe in acting. And I say this

(58:15):
every day and when people ask mewhat am I doing when I get home,
And I've said it always as ajoke, but there's also always truth
to it. I want to startin a big movie or show one day.
That's a dream of mine. Um, and maybe maybe it, maybe
I do something kind of good andit's an okay show, Um, that'll
be awesome. But I'm going toalways reach for being in the biggest movie

(58:37):
in the world. It might notever happen, but I always believe that
if you aim for the biggest goals, if you set high expectations, you
reach higher goals. You know.I learned that in my clothes. I
had a goal to hit many,so many sales and I it was a
crazy number. Didn't reach it,but I reached higher than if I would

(58:59):
have set a lower goal. Andso I think a big one is going
to be I would love to becomea known actor one day, a credited
actor. I'd love to be creditedfor something more than internet TikTok stuff.
And that there's a part to thatwith the shirts, you know, when
I'm back home, I want toI want to get my t shirts in

(59:20):
big stores. I want it tobe everywhere. I want to learn.
I want to. I think moreof a character trait I'd like to learn
is more having patience with others.I think that's an important thing I'd like
to learn in this life. Andjust like the last character thing really to
learn about myself is just to continueto see the best in others. That's

(59:40):
a goal I've really want to justalways no matter what standard and I think
going into if I do follow thisindustry, a big thing that can help
me set myself apart from the restwill be everybody I look at just see
them the same as me and thesame as anybody else, and to not
see anything that they've maybe done inthe past. Just love people for who
they are. It's kind of thebig goals. Yeah, no, that's

(01:00:04):
that's amazing, and I think it'sI think it's very like, um,
like a testament to who you areas a person that you included stuff that
you know for your goals that youwould do for other people, which is
incredible. Thank you, thank you. That means a lot. I'm really
excited. Yeah, absolutely, no, it's um yeah, like we said

(01:00:25):
before, you know, it's,um, you definitely could. There's like
a good probability that you can accomplishwhatever you set out to accomplish. You've
already done so much already. Andum, I do agree with the fact
that if you do set higher goalsthat even if you fall a little bit
short of it, you're still goingto be higher than if you set those

(01:00:45):
smaller things. Right, Yeah,definitely, And I have no doubt you'll
be on You have an IMDb hope, so well we all will bro maybe
we'll you know, it would beso funny. I mean, it's such
a crazy chance when imagine we wereall on a movie one day together and
we look back. You hear crazystories like that. But yeah, can
you just imagine. Yeah, thoseare the kind of things I like thinking

(01:01:07):
in my head, like we threeare on a show one day together back
and we like run the clip wouldbe crazy too, And it's funny how
life works in that way as well, like who knows it could happen?
Yeah, literally, anything's possible.And um also, uh, there was
there was an anonymous person who hada question that that wanted us to ask

(01:01:31):
you is who is your favorite photographer? Ah, I want to Damian Brunton
the best photographer in Like, dude, really though, that dude is so
good at what he does. AndI mean he Damien, I learned so

(01:01:52):
much from him when he stated withme, dude, he freaking uh so
like side note from the photography,he would like if there was a creator
that I thought was cool. Sofriends, as I was playing a Jared
McCain video on my phone he's afamous basketball player, Damien's like, oh,
dude, I know. And meanwhile, Damien knows every person in the
industrmming. He takes pictures for thebiggest people, right, but he just

(01:02:13):
goes, oh, Jared, like, dude, child, we FaceTime and
I was like, what facetimes?Jared McCain. Jared recognized me. I
think some creators, you know,they recognize me, and he's like,
oh, you're the Riz kid.And I was like, what's up,
bro, And He's like, dude, what's good? And then Damien's like,
hey, Jackson has a shirt hewants to send you it. I
was like what, and then Ilike ended up sending him. But Damien,
he's really good at what he does. He's also a really respectful kid.

(01:02:36):
I think some people can fear thatphotographers are, oh, like,
it's weird they're taking a picture ofa girl. But he, like you
talk to any girl that knows him, and they like will vouch for him,
and me too, that he justa good dude. He's good a
way he does. He's not weirdhis work. And the reason I say
it is because some photographers out there, and like, I haven't done too
many photo shoots and different things myself, but from what I've learned, there

(01:02:58):
are some weird people out there,and he's not one of them, you
know, right. Other than thatfreaking shout out Kaide Carol and Uh and
Uh alexis from one photo shoot andClary Jensen takes some cool photos that's about
it. That's about all the otherI don't know. It's right, Yoshimaya,
I don't know, dude, there'ssome I don't even know. Shout

(01:03:21):
out Damien, dude, he's heknows what he's doing. Yeah, yeah,
full disclosure. He definitely might havebeen may or may not have been
the person that uh question with Damien. I hope you answer, but yeah,
no, he's he's really gifted,like as you. I mean,

(01:03:42):
it's pretty obvious with the you know, the quality of content he has and
um and definitely a genuine person too, as you know. We had him
on the podcast just before um andyeah, no, I I mean great
great podcast guests too, so aswell as you too. I loved your
Guys podcast with him. You guysin podcast was really cool with him.

(01:04:03):
Me and my mom listen because thenDavian texts me he is like, hey,
I talked about you and your momat one point in it. I
was like, dude, what,and so I listened. He was really
nice. Dude, He's such agood guy. I'm staying with him next
in like two weeks. Oh that'dbe cool, Yeah, he said,
he said he just got to Yeah, I guess a place in the hills
that he stays out. Oh yeah, dude, it's nuts. It's like

(01:04:26):
justin Bieber's old house, the oldlike one of the hype house people.
It's Chance the rapper's neighbor. Dude, It's nuts. He's he's just gonna
keep growing. And I think himliving in la is going to help him
a lot too. I mean,he's already doing so many great things,
but I think he'll keep doing greatthings there too, you know. Yeah,
no, absolutely, I think.I mean, he's definitely the type
of person that can excel in youknow, any environment. But it definitely,

(01:04:53):
like, you know, he alreadyhas so many connections and he's just
gonna grow from there. Yeah,dude, he saw it and he's starting
a clothing line and so that's sohigh. I'm so stoked for him,
dude. Yeah, that is.That is something that he mentioned on our
podcast as well, and he saidyou are a big inspiration for that too.
He's such a stud. Yeah.Do you have any like, um,

(01:05:15):
like, did you guys talk aboutanything when he was starting the clothing
brand or yeah, anything like youwould call me. He'd call me quite
a bit. I've set up afew pretty big creators with my cousin.
I mean, because my cousin does. I don't know, if you've seen
those hoodies that say I love yousay it back, it's lonely ghosts.
They have some pretty like big clotheswhatever. But he does like things for
a twenty four really big creators whatnot. And so I was like, Damien,

(01:05:39):
dude, you need to go tomy cousin, like not even because
he's family. This is your linetoo, And so I shot him all
the advice I could. I taughthim about like how to sell, when
to do pre sells when not.But that is like another when I get
home for my mission, I likesocial media market managing, um, like

(01:06:00):
setting creators up with things like this, landing deals for them. For some
reason, I find more fun inthat than actually making videos myself. But
also, you know, probably continuecontent. I don't know if you guys
know, if you get seen thekid who wears the do or he wears
a green due rag and a wifewhite beater on on TikTok. His name's
Tuck. But anyway, he's ahuge creator. I just set him up
with my cousin. That's my funnestthing to do is just help those creators

(01:06:24):
get their name even more out there. But Damian, Damian, I totally
had his back with helping out withthat, and I was just so stoked
for him to do it. Yeah. No, it's awesome. Yeah,
that's awesome. Um. And itsounds like he's really you know, you
know, I really think that he'sgoing to make it a big clothing line,
just because he's so passionate about it. And it's not like I feel

(01:06:45):
like some of the things, likeyou know, like your brand included U.
Sometimes when it's about like a biggerpurpose than just selling a T shirt,
then it becomes yeah, you know, it's it becomes bigger than you
would ever expect, right, onehundred percent, dude. But yeah,
that's you know, that's that's incredible. And um yeah he did mention that.

(01:07:06):
Um yeah, like we said that, Uh, you know, you
are a big inspiration for that.So that's I appreciate the fact that you
know, you're even your clothing linestarted another clothing line that has this a
similar message. Right Yeah, Okay, I've never thought about it like that.
Okay, that just gave me goodfeelings inside here and that and outside

(01:07:29):
of the podcast, I'd love tosend you guys T shirts. Okay,
yeah, no, absolutely we would. Uh, we'd love to wear them
and you know, represent your brandbecause it, you know, like like
we said before, it carries sucha strong message. Yeah right, yeah,
but yeah, definitely, and umyeah, we'd be happy to you
know, speak about it to ourfollowers and stuff, because again, you

(01:07:50):
know, it's such such a goodmessage and um, clearly a lot I
mean you don't know it, buta lot of people resonate with things like
that. Uh. And it's moreeverybody's experienced it somehow, right right exactly?
Yeah? Yeah, and yeah,what was it? Man? I
forgot what I was going to sayabout that, because there's something about the

(01:08:12):
clothing line. Oh are you stillare you selling it constantly even when you're
going to be on your mission.Yeah, I am still planning on keeping
up the shop and everything. Ihave an idea. So the interview series
can only do so well, right, But this next month I'm kind of
reaching out to local stores, differentplaces that I can keep it because number

(01:08:33):
one, a store would like tokeep it in there because I mean,
it's mental health, dude, everybodyrelates. And another thing is like if
I give it to a store tohave them sell it. Like, even
if I'm not making I don't reallycare. I mean, I'm glad people
are ordering it. The thing is, though people will get it. It's

(01:08:53):
a good enough message that it reachestoddlers to old people, girls and guys.
It's not just me not to notto talk down at any other company,
but other companies if they just havea star on their hoodie, that's
more likely to sell to someone whowants a star on their hoodie, right,
But I think more people can resonatewith it. So that's one of

(01:09:15):
my goals is to get it toa couple vendors in different places and as
well, Like you know, Italked to my sisters. Maybe they can
handle and run the Instagram. Theycan post things, get things going,
still, do photoshoots whatever they want. And even while I'm on my mission,
if I come up with new handwrittendesigns, it'd be easy to send
them their way and tell them.And I have thought just a little bit

(01:09:35):
about when I'm on the mission,even though it's like it's supposed to be
a church related and it's for meto be doing that and not be too
folcus on social media all have acamera with me there, and I can
still take videos and maybe find acontent idea that I can do there that
I can send back home. Youknow a lot of what we do with
services and stuff. So if it'sstill inspiring to people, I'd love to

(01:09:58):
keep pushing it on the internet.You know. Yeah, No, that
would be cool thing. That wouldbe definitely cool to see. Um,
you know, you know, likewe said before, um, with your
like, it's that behind the scenes, that real person, behind the camera
type thing. So I think,um, you know, people like it
no matter what, as long asyou know you're being genuine. Yeah,
thank you, thank you. Youguys are really wise guys. Thank you.

(01:10:21):
You're you're super wise as well.So yeah, thank you. But
also, um, yeah, what, I just lost my train. I
thought, what was I gonna say? Um? Yeah, I forgot was
there? Um? Was there anystories or anything like that, Any funny

(01:10:41):
stories behind the scenes that you wantedto mention while you were on here,
or any anything that's uh funny funnystories. Uh sometimes Okay, when I
was first getting known on the internet, this is like, this is just
a and I've never actually told thestory to anybody. Is gonna kind of
I don't know. Some people might. I don't know. So when I
was first getting big, I justhit a hundred K. I was out

(01:11:04):
of town with my friends, andI just made the screen face, right,
and dude, this is where thesocial anxiety started. And now like
I've grown a little bit from it. But when I was growing, I
kind of got like a little bitof social anxiety because if I would go
to an in and out or somewhereI was in a fish tank, you
know, people would be like,oh, there, you know, and
they didn't care to point whatever.But the time that it really bugged me

(01:11:26):
and scary, but it was alsofunny in the moment, because you know,
we're dudes. I was I wasjust using the bathroom in a Maverick.
I was just in a gas station, right, and it's like two
am, dude, It's literally twoam. I'm out of town. I'm
not thinking anything of it. I'min the Jurnal and like four dudes that
are just baked come up behind meand start doing the face and they're all

(01:11:47):
filming. I'm like, dude,what, there's no way. And I
was like, I like stopped peeingand the like ran out of the gas
and I was like du no,no, no, no no. And
I was like still starting to likelaugh and be funny with them, and
I was like, bro, pleasedelete that video. This is weird,
Like you did not just record tome peeing while doing the face. But
then like in hindsight, I'm like, kid, that's kind of funny because

(01:12:08):
like I do it to people andnow they're doing it while I'm using it,
but like it's a little messed upand weird. But like that's when
I had the I started like,so, dude, fun fact, I
hate using public urinals now. AnywhereI go, I go straight into the
straight into the stall, because likeit's weird. And I told my brother
this story one time and he waslike, yeah, right, we walk

(01:12:28):
into a jazz game and like thefirst person that sees me wanna walk in,
dude, do that? Go onTikTok. And I was like,
and then the whole bathroom was lookingaround. It's just like weird. And
I love I am dude. Ieat that up. I love hanging out
meeting new people someone wants, takingpicture, talk to them, see how
it is. If I can makesomeone's day doing that, dude, Like
I'm so for it. But thesecond I start getting the the oh,

(01:12:53):
this guy's right here, this guy, it's like, oh, I get
I get a little scared, andso I can kind of see like obviously
I'm nothing even close to those bigcelebrities that are scared of paparazzi, but
I can I can get a hintof it, you know what I mean.
Yeah, No, but that's athat's a fun fact right there.
Yeah, that's that's a crazy story. And um, I think it's funny
because like it's a similar experience toa story I heard by Kevin Hart where

(01:13:15):
he was actually taking uh, youknow, number two and the guy was
like going over the stall just tolike film them in Like, oh,
dude, I could not handle that. Bro. That is uh yeah,
yeah, and we that's funny.We definitely don't get uh recognized nearly as
much as you. But I thinkit is hard to figure out like how
to handle those situations, Like wehave had a few those situations. It's

(01:13:40):
like, uh, like what doI say? Like yeah, And sometimes
I'll like ask you weird stuff andthey'll be like, dude, that like
I'm so for it, but youjust came the total wrong way about it.
Yeah, yeah, it's like Iguess they just don't like it.
No one knows how like what theperfect scenario is to I guess when to
ask if you're that person, ye, dude. And I've had some good

(01:14:00):
ones, but they're like sorry,Like the only like really like I mean
not that they're all good, butI mean the ones that really stand out
are when people like come in they'relike, dude, I love your shirt,
I love what you do. Theydon't and like not that you need
it. I would, I wouldcare less if they ask for a picture,
but like they just when someone justsays that to me, and it
means I'm like, okay, that'sawesome, Like dude, you're in a
really nice person, you know.Yeah. Yeah, but then you'll get

(01:14:24):
people that are like, do theface, and it just felt like the
rom yeah you know, but alsoI brought it upon myself. I'm the
one who did the face, soit's on me. But yeah, that
there's definitely that part to it too, that's true. And I guess from
them it's kind of like an instantreaction, like they don't think about it
much but um but yeah, yeah, they're like, oh, he's the

(01:14:45):
kid who does the face. Iwant to see him do it in person,
right, Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, that is I feel
like that is a big thing oflike, um, like being a creator
nowadays, it's just like it's kindof hard to know, is I feel
like it's so much easier to recognizebecause everyone's pulling like millions of views now.
So it's yeah, it's like everyonehas probably seen if you're if you're

(01:15:09):
creating constantly, someone's probably seen youat some point like in your you know,
in your city, in your areaor whatever. So it's like how
do you handle that interaction. It'skind of it's kind of awkward. It's
like, yeah, it is foreign, dude. And especially like here,
I came from a small town,so then like when I would go out,
but like I noticed, like eventuallyhere where I'm from, it's kind
of like if someone sees me out, it's like, oh, that's the

(01:15:30):
kid, it did, you know, they don't care too much. But
when I go out of town.I was in like Florida. I was
at Disney World and I had likea whole baseball team that was from New
York. They're like, dude,let me get a picture, Like this
is awesome. They were a lotmore respectful because they didn't know me so
well, you know what I mean, they don't see me that much.
And then they're like, oh,like you know, like it's a little
but yeah, dude, it's that'sa very weird kind of thing to to

(01:15:51):
grasp and be like, well,you know what I mean? Yeah,
yeah, definitely. Is there anyum, is there any like behind the
scenes story of like when you're creatingstuff that like there's any Is there any
like funny story that you remember?Dude? Actually, this is like and
not I mean, it's funny,but it's also a little crazy. I

(01:16:12):
made, okay, my most viralvideo. There's an insane backstory in the
video that I made. It's measking a girl out and I'm throwing gummy
bears at her and then I throwa note that asks her out right in
the background, there's a girl inthere. You can't even there's multiple people
in the background, but there wassomeone in the background. It was just
a blur in the video. ButI go to I post that video,
right, the video is doing okay, yeah, actually no, sorry,

(01:16:34):
the video is doing insane. ButI didn't think anything of it. So
it was my first video that hadlike sixty K views in like thirty minutes.
I was like, no way,it had like a couple hundred k
by an hour. I was like, okay, it's gonna blow up.
I could usually tell how it wasgoing to go. I go to the
basketball game that night, just ahigh school basketball game. I opened the
door for a lady and she goes, I know you, and she grabs

(01:16:56):
her arm on my shirt and she'slike pulling me and she's like, you
put my I v my daughter ina video. And I'm like okay.
First off, all the girls thatI make videos with, I know their
moms and their mom's DAGs with me. I could bake cookies with them,
right. And this lady saying this, and I was like, wow,
what is going on? Like Iand like, did you think I disrespected?
Like I don't know what happened.Anyway, she goes, wait until
my husband finds you, and Iwas like, oh my gosh, it

(01:17:17):
just can't be real. And soI'm chilling up in the student section.
Then I see a guy who atone point I actually knew he was once
a coach for me, and he'sa pretty scary guy. He's a big
dude. He was like six six, pretty huge guy like Muscley, kind
of scary, you know. Hepoints me to get over and he's like,
he's like, why is my daughterin a viral video? And he's

(01:17:40):
cussing me out and all this stuff, and Dude, in the meanwhile,
I'm thinking it was miscommunication. Somebodythat saw my video of me asking a
girl out saw the video of hisdaughter in the background, right, and
she's like, oh, your daughter'sin a viral video. There's like a
bunch of likes and comments, right, And he might have not been on
the internet and just interpreted as becausehe didn't even see the video. He

(01:18:01):
didn't even know the video, right, he was just like there's there's me
and comments about my daughter. I'mlike, dude, there's no way this
happening. So I'm like, okay, I'm sorry. I'm like, dude,
I'm scared. Like the officers likekind of watching from afar because like
me and the officer were boys,I'd watch my freaking pe clips in his
office on security camps anyway, I'dlike they So he's like, delete this

(01:18:23):
video. I private the video.It's at two million views in like three
hours, and I'm like, you'vegot to be kidding me, dude,
I didn't. So anyway, heleaves. Finally he's like, and I
want a video apologizing to my daughter. And I was like, what's going
on, dude, I'm like soconfused, and like, obviously, out
of respect, I will so IActually he leaves, I'm private the video.
I'm like, kay, there's noway this guy is gonna do that.

(01:18:45):
I mean, I didn't. I'mprivate right after, like an hour
later, I'm private. I pina top comment says hey, everybody,
I'd like you to be respectful andeverything. But I go read. I
get my friend to read comments withme. We go through every single comment.
Not one talked about his daughter,not one said oh the girl in
the back anything remotely close. Andso I put the video back up and
the video ends up getting twenty millionviews, thirty million on an Instagram account,

(01:19:10):
thirty million on another Instagram account.Whatever we added up. It had
more than one hundred million views withinthe next couple months, and the biggest
video I've ever done blew up myInstagram. All this stuff I started getting
known as, Oh, you're thekid that asked out that girl. I've
had like the different I've never justoh you got you're the kid who did
It's always you're the face. Youdo the riz videos, you asked the
girl out, or you do thefree game, you make the dance videos.

(01:19:34):
It was always so many different things. I did style content for all,
like I said, just expand yourcategories. But that got known.
But I was like the fact thata man almost stopped me from posting a
video that was fun for me,That like was my biggest video, the
fact that he almost thought me.But it just like it was kind of
funny because it was like, dude, Like then the next high school basketball

(01:19:56):
games, the cop would like alwayskind of be buying me after the game,
just making sure like nothing suspicious wasgoing to happen, because I mean,
the guy's like son was on theteam, so it was like he
was there and I was there.But he ended up actually apologizing to me
and saying it was a big misunderstanding. But dude, I was like,
that was kind of the first thingon the inter I was like, dude,
I gotta be careful, but Iwas also like scared. But it
was funny because I was like,this didn't just happen. This isn't real.

(01:20:17):
I know a grown man didn't justput his hands on an eighteen year
old kid like or on a seventeenI was seventeen at the time. I
was like, dude, I couldI could press you? Like what do
you Yeah, I'm not that kindof kid, but like, what are
you doing? Bro? Like Ijust wish sometimes I do wish some people
could when when a problem like thatoccurags you, you can step back and
see you. But it was inmy mind. I think it's just funny.

(01:20:39):
Now I'm like, there's no waythat happened. I got pressed by
two adults at a high school basketballgame over my most viral video. Yeah,
yeah, no, that's that's crazyand it's it's kind of ironic how
it's the most viral video that right, And I privated it for like an
hour and like it what could havebeen? Like? And I always know
when i'd private, I was like, dude, this video is gonna be

(01:21:00):
nuts. But yeah, that girl'sactually married. Now, um my most
viral video of me asking a girlout, she is already married. But
I I'm low key still posting likeour reels of us and I had a
hit her of the text I waslike, hey, like, I like,
she's an awesome girls, super goodfriends, but it was kind of
awkward now like posting some of myreels with her in it because she's married

(01:21:23):
or she's getting married, but Ilike, I asked for her respect and
she's like, yeah, it's allgood, but it's weird like life news,
where like I was a whole yearand a half ago this was happening,
and now it's like, you know, yeah that's true. Yeah that
that is crazy though, especially withlike um like like a video like that
that uh you know she was shewas like one of the main people that
you might have done that. Yeah, yeah that is interesting though. Yeah,

(01:21:46):
dude, those are pretty nuts.But yeah, parents get very protective,
especially with the social media that theydon't really understand. So I could
definitely see those interactions not being fun. So yeah, and I was like,
all respected him. I'm sure he'sjust looking out for his daughter,
but also like I wish he wouldhave kind of seen it like from okay,

(01:22:09):
take a step back. So Iwas like I even told him,
dude, when he was pressing me, I wasn't just gonna be like okay,
okay, I was like, dude, I make kindness videos. Why
are you? And he was likeI don't care. And I was like,
okay, really, bro, likecome on, like whatever, what
are we doing? This is weird? Yeah yeah, I feel like that
was more about him than it wasabout Yeah dude, it got a little

(01:22:31):
too personal. He was like wanting, and then the fact that he asked
me, like okay, the factthat I took the video down was already
enough, but then to ask meand delete the other and post a videos
saying how you need to be kindto everyone. I was like, or
kind of my daughter? He saidsomething like that, and I was like,
and I probably would have posted somethinglike that if they were being rude,
but that wasn't the case, right, and it was it was just
kind of like an abuse of power, like older, bigger, taller,

(01:22:55):
stronger, And I was like,hey, that's just not cool. Yeah
no, yeah, absolutely, Ithink I think that it was just more
about him, and you know,he was trying to yeah, have the
authority or that's like a funny story. I don't really tell people about I
mean, my parents knew, thecop knew, but I didn't even want
to tell kids at school because they'rehis kids still went to school, and
I'm not gonna make his kids lookembarrassing. That could ruin a kids high

(01:23:16):
school experience anything that gets said ina small town stage. So I like,
out of my respect for them,I never told anybody, really,
but now I laugh about it onsomething like this, you know, Yeah,
no, exactly. Yeah, that'sthat's that's part of the reason why
we ask for like the funny stories, because it's stuff that people wouldn't know
that would go into the behind thescenes of a video, but it's like

(01:23:36):
stuff that you may have to eitherdeal with or um, you know,
maybe it's just a funny story alongthe way, right, Yeah, that's
that's funny. Do you have anyadvice for maybe people starting TikTok, Instagram
or just anything really? Yes,Um, Number one, don't listen to

(01:24:02):
let anybody saying about you posting.It's your content. Number Two, post
as much as you can or whateveryou want, and literally just don't give
up on that. Consistency is key. And lastly, if you if you
really care to get big and stuffand you're like and you've already tried and

(01:24:23):
you can't do it right now,post like let's see if there's thirty days
in a month, that's like fourweeks. Okay, let's just say three
weeks twenty one days post post,let's say four Okay, if I mean,
it's nuts. But if they caredenough, if you cared enough to
get big on the interne if yourdream is getting big, I think I

(01:24:45):
think the biggest thing if you do, if you want to get big,
do what you love. You'll getbig somehow eventually. But if your dream
is to get famous and stuff andall that stuff, you want the views
and you want to help people whatever, post five times a day for like
twenty days, and and then askme for what you need help with because
those because by then you're going tobe asking, Okay, what do I
do know? I have this manyfollowers. That's my biggest advice. A

(01:25:08):
lot of people have asked me before, how do I do it? Well?
Have you done it yet? Whathave you done? I want to
I will give my help and anybodywho's reaching. But at the beginning,
just do what you want and posthowever much you want, post so much
as you can, and cater toyour audience. The truth on the Internet
is that the comments and the peopleown you and tell you own them.

(01:25:30):
And not to say that I ownanybody in that like creators own their fans.
But in a sense, if you'renot, if you only have this
many followers and not and like likeI said, followers don't matter. But
if this is what you're worried about, if you only have this many followers,
you can have this many comments,right, and they can say whatever
they want about you, that candefine you. But if you have enough

(01:25:53):
confidence to just think in your head, I have this many people. I
like this, many people love me. Whatever I say they're gonna love.
Then like comments and stuff will neveraffect you. And when you keep getting
bigger, when you have now onehundred k followers, you're you'll feel even
more confident. But you have tojust have so much utter confidence in your
mind that you can do it,and everything else will fall in play.

(01:26:14):
That's the bottom line. If youbelieve that you're already a big creator and
that you're already if you if youwant to be a motivation speaker and you
already think, okay, I'm alreadythe best motivations figure boom, you got
it. If you want to dothirst traps on TikTok's and you and you
think already, I'm the best lookingdo it on the app. Then go
make some videos because you're the bestlooking dude on the app, you know
what I mean. But if youif you live, just if you just

(01:26:35):
live. I'm an okay looking kid, but I kind of look cues sometimes
I could probably post some videos tome. Then guess what, Only a
few people are ever gonna see that. But if you freaking care and you
keep go, go, go,go go, You're going to get it.
That's the truth of the Internet.If you want it, you gotta
get it. You have to goand get it. No one's gonna wake
you up. Nobody's gonna tell youin the post. Nobody's gonna post for

(01:26:57):
you. You're not gonna get amanager, and a manager's not gonna want
you if you're not working. Sogo work. Just get to work.
That's the bottom line. That's AWESO. Sorry, I just kind of went
off. Now you're good. Yougot me one. You ready to run
through a brick wall here? Butyeah, I know. That's that's great
advice because I think the hard partsstarting and then the next hard part is

(01:27:18):
maybe trying to like like figure outwhat the post, and then the third
is probably how to handle you know, the pressure or whatever. Yes,
ye, yeah, Ultimately, youdefinitely got to have a thick skin and
just focus on the good things thatcome of it, not the bad things.

(01:27:38):
Yes. Bro, There's a girlI know and her sound is trending
on TikTok right now. She's droppinga song and it's got like four thousand
videos. Her name's page Fish,and she reached out to me and she
kind of shared some things like thatshe's kind of going through what I went
through at school. People are startingto notice that she's getting bigger, and
not that she can't handle it,but she's just kind of like, how
do you go about when people youknow come? And that was the biggest

(01:27:59):
thing, is just like you gottahave thick stick kin, like they anybody
that's making fun of you. Jealousyis just love and hate at the same
time. So if someone's making funof you, they just want they're jealous
or something you can't do. Butlike, dude, those three principles you
said were perfect. Yeah, yeah, definitely, and we've even got I
and I firmly believe go ahead.Oh sorry, no, I I M

(01:28:19):
sorry. I was just saying andI firmly believe that she will do whatever
she wants. She's about to dropa crazy song, it's gonna go awesome,
and she's gonna keep just believing inherself. That's what's gonna take her
far. But go on, sorry, that's awesome. Yeah, but yeah,
No, I was just gonna say, we've even gotten it and this
is that like because we started whenwe were at the basically the end of
college. And I mean, itdoesn't matter how old people are, they're

(01:28:44):
gonna they're gonna have like some negativefeedback for you. But ultimately, yeah,
it's because you're doing well and theywant what you have, or they
just admire some part of it thatthey're you know, not fully settled about.
Yes, dude, I think thethere was in my high school there

(01:29:04):
was a big group of I meanthere were some boys, but there's actually
a big group of girls that wouldmake fun of me a lot, like
some really hurtful things that hurt mea lot, got bullied a lot,
but I'd realize something about them.Almost all of them were once a good
friend to me or at least friendsto me, and we talked a lot,
and I think it's just that gapis they want something, they like
it. They like it so muchthat they almost get obsessed with hating you.

(01:29:26):
And so you just gotta you justgotta toughen through it. And like
you said, just you know,have thick skin and you'll be okay.
Yeah, no, absolutely, Andum, this has been an awesome podcast
so far. Um was there anythingelse that you wanted to mention before?
Um, I guess before we wrapup the podcast. Noah, that's it.

(01:29:46):
Just uh, just if you wantto create, create, that's the
bottom line. Yeah. Absolutely,And be nice to people. Be nice
to people. Sorry, I justhave to say that I freaking love people.
Dude. If you have a standingon the internet, give the freaking
kindness to people. People don't realizehow much effect it has. But sorry,
I just have to say that Ijust love everyone. Yeah, that's

(01:30:06):
that's very good input too. Andyou're completely right because even because as creators,
if if you're a viewer to anycreators, any TikTokers, if you
leave a nice comment, we noticethose, and um, it definitely drowns
out the bad ones. Ye,but yeah, definitely. And where can

(01:30:27):
everyone find you on social media?Um? It's Jackson j A c K.
S O. N E. IR E on all my social medias
and my clothing store is Urban Rodeostore. It's in all of my bios
and I think if you look upUrban Rodeo you'll find it okay, awesome
and yeah, definitely everybody definitely checkout his clothing brand and um, you

(01:30:53):
know it carries a great message,so go go get one. And but
thank you everyone for listening guys,Thank you everyone for watching if you're watching
this podcast, and of course thankyou to our guest Jackson for coming on
and sharing your story and just everythingthat you talked about. Thank you boys.
Yeah, I hope you guys enjoyedthis podcast episode and there'll be plenty

(01:31:15):
more. Let us know who youwant us to have on and we'll try
to make that happen. All right, till next time, guys, See
you, guys,

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