July 21, 2025 • 27 mins
As DNI Gabbard declassifies documents related to the Obama administration's involvement in the Russian collusion hoax, we have to ask who the real threat to democracy was and is.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start
your day. You're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Monday morning, twenty, first day of July. I'm Wes, thanks
for joining me. I'll just say this, when it comes
to international travel, sleep deprivation is real, right. Having to
(00:32):
adjust and acclimate from being on the other side of
the planet takes longer than you would think. Jet Lag
is real. My friends, waking up at two in the
morning multiple times and just going, man, I'm really hungry.
That's what the experience has been like pretty much since
we've been home, not just for me, for I think
(00:53):
all of us. I don't know. Jill may have been
getting through the night now a couple of nights, but
it has been and I had one really good night night,
But for the most part, waking up at two continues
to be the thing. And our boys are trying to
adjust as well. So they got a few more weeks
before school gets started back for them, but I guess
(01:14):
two weeks well, so they got to really start making
some kind of an adjustment. I don't know what we
gotta do. We got to start sleeping through the night.
It'll come. It always comes eventually, So let's get started
on a Monday morning together, and now that it's going
to be a full week of shows, that's the plan anyway,
a full week of shows without any interruptions, no issues
(01:38):
with travel, no issues with flights, no issues with luggage,
none of those things. Just here with you this week,
God willing. Who knows life happens? Sometimes you never know,
You never know. So let's talk about first of all,
the story that I think we're probably all think getting
(02:01):
sick of, and I think there's some relevance to it,
to a really big story that happened at the end
of the week, some breaking news that happened on Friday
late in the day. And the first story I want
to talk about is the Astronomy CEO story. I guess
he's resigned, stepped down from his role. The coldplay, a
(02:25):
fair bust, I guess, is what you'd call it. I
don't know. They got caught, right, That's what happened. They
got caught he and the head of HR having a
snuggle together, not in an official relationship in any capacity,
at least not so the now former head of the
(02:46):
company's the former CEO's wife is concerned. So it happened
one of those things that it's almost surprising it doesn't
happen more often. I know there've been smaller scale versions
of this, where the kiss cam comes around at a
sporting event. Two people are there and you can tell
they don't want to be in the kiss cam. They're
probably not supposed to be there together. Sometimes it's maybe
(03:08):
they've called out from work. Sometimes they're with someone they're
not supposed to be there with. They don't want to
be seen. They have to try to play it off.
This was two people at this Coldplay concert who tried
to play it off in the worst possible way. That
just made it worse. I know. There's been a number
of memes and all sorts of social media posts other
(03:29):
people giving hey, here's how you could have handled this.
Here's what you should have done instead of panicking and
ducking and dodging and all the things that you did.
In the movie Dodgeball, they did all those things. They ducked,
dodged all of that. So now we're on this side
of it where I think most of us are like, okay,
(03:50):
can we move on? There are people saying, hey, haha,
good good that the spouse now knows and that they've
been outed for this salacious relationship, this affair, whatever, all
those details, all that's out there, there's some that are
just saying, hey, good, another rich CEO goes down. And
(04:11):
that's kind of the angle I want to talk about
in this because I have seen the ares a post
floating around that it's that time of year again where
a CEO gets sacrificed to the gods, ha haha. And
in that particular post they also reference the Healthcare President
(04:34):
CEO who was murdered by a guy who apparently because
he's good looking, then people will forgive him. All right,
So it's okay to murder the head of United Healthcare
in cold blood, take him away from his family if
you're good looking or if people will justify it. And
(04:55):
they say, well, he was wronged by the healthcare system.
Oh I didn't know he had United Healthcare. Oh no,
he didn't. He had to healthcare somewhere else, and he
was having problems with getting some health care treatment. So
he murdered someone who had nothing to do with his problem.
But many perceive, oh, well, he's a rich CEO, and
we have this mentality now that's spread throughout this country.
(05:16):
This cancer that it's okay to hurt or kill people
if they go against something that you believe in in
any capacity. It doesn't matter. If they voted for someone
you didn't vote for, then it's okay. You can hurt them,
you can injure them, you can do whatever you want.
They're not people. They're fascists. They're horrible Nazi like little
(05:39):
Hitler's running around. They're all those things. Because you help
Trump win. So and you act a little weird and quirky,
and you have autism and you're elon Musk, so you
must be a Nazi. And you did the same thing
with your hand that a number of politicians have done
over the years. It had nothing to do with Nazis
or Hitler or anything. You take a presidential candidate and
(06:01):
they someone tries to shoot him in the ear, or
they do shoot him in the ear. They were trying
to shoot him more than in the year, but they
shoot him in the ear. A lot of conspiracy talk
around all that, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
What?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And the guy have spoons in his house, All these
kinds of questions that come up, and you can ask
those questions. Certainly, you can go down all those rabbit
holes if you want to. But the main focus that
I have in it is that when we dehumanize people,
then we put ourselves in a position where we can
really do anything that we want, and we can justify
anything that we want. If you say that Donald Trump
(06:35):
is hitler and someone tries to kill him, and then
you're kind of forced to backpedal a little bit and go,
maybe it's awful thing that happened, and then someone else
does it, and then you keep calling him hitler and
a threat to democracy and all these horrible things. If
someone were truly a threat to democracy, you could probably
(06:55):
justify doing some things. I mean, if it was a
threat to American democracy and truly and you had some
evidence to lay out. But instead, what we're getting and
have been getting, is this talk, this conversation that people
are a threat to something, and then there's no real backup,
there's no justification, there's no explanation for it. They just
say he's a threat to democracy, and they trust that
(07:18):
the American people will do whatever it is that needs
to be done. Now, I'm not saying that they all
want cold blood and murder to happen, but some of
them do. And this cancer that's spreading through the country
is evidence of that. The fact that people think this
is funny that United Healthcare CEO was murdered, or that
(07:39):
the guys in the submarine died, or the people that died,
or with the Orca whales. These are all the CEOs
in this particular post that supposedly have been sacrificed to
the gods. And now this guy and his family being
torn apart. You could make all the cases you want
about it being justified because he was cheering on his wife.
(08:00):
That's fine. That's a whole separate conversation. Remember though, at
a time when people on the left would say, you
should mind your business. What people do in the privacy
of their bedroom should be, you know, their own private things.
We shouldn't get involved scandals, the Clintons, all those things.
(08:22):
We don't need to get involved in all that. That's
not our business. We don't need to be involved in that.
We don't need to talk about that, we don't need
to We need to leave people be. And then, of
course the privacy of your bedroom turned into parades and
celebrations and readings at libraries by drag queens. And then
they say, but they should be able to do this
(08:43):
out in public and it shouldn't be a problem. Isn't
that what these people were doing at the concert. I'm
not justifying the behavior of any of it. That's not
what I'm doing. I'm just pointing out the fact that
just be careful when you celebrate the fact that somebody's
sin are exposed. That's all. That's all I'm saying. You
have to be careful when you celebrate those things. And
(09:06):
you definitely shouldn't be celebrating when people get murdered, and
you shouldn't celebrate when someone's career or livelihood or life
gets thrown completely off course because of something that happens
in the name of politics. And that's not what happened
at the Coldplay concert. But I want to focus a
(09:27):
little bit on what the last couple of years, and
we can go all the way back really to twenty
sixteen if you want, and what life has been like
for a certain president and former president. See, there was
a time where he wins the election and all of
this talk about a Russian hoax comes out of nowhere,
(09:53):
in spite of the fact that there was apparently some
evidence to say that there was no Russian interference with
the election. And now on Friday we find out thanks
to our Director of National Intelligence, Tulca Gabbard, former Democrat
by the way, now independent who actually ran for president
against Trump, right, who says, wait a minute, I need
(10:16):
to release this, declassify and release this document that shows
that the Obama administration and Obama himself's goal with that
Russian narrative was to subvert the will of the American people. See,
Trump had just won and it was December of twenty sixteen,
December ninth to be exact. And according to Gabbard, she
(10:39):
says that there was a meeting, and in spite of
the fact that there was no evidence to support it,
she says, according to the evidence that she's released, that
Obama and others, senior members of this Obama team said,
go out and find the evidence. Go find it. There
(11:01):
was some sort of a Russian hack to the election.
And basically by claiming that the election was hacked, they
were starting to create a narrative that Trump didn't really win.
Does that sound like does that sound like anything at all?
That sound like he could be a concern. Remember, for
the last year we've been here in the threat to
(11:22):
democracy claim that sounds like a threat to democracy, doesn't it.
The American people voted for Donald Trump to be president.
He won, he was going to be sworn in a
little over a month after this meeting took place, and
here was the sitting president trying to weaponize the Justice
Department to go after him. Then and then we had
(11:46):
impeachment hearings that came along, right, one of them related
to all this. They wanted to taint his presidency. They
wanted to say he wasn't a real president. We had
people that were sitting out going to his State of
the Union, going to his inauguration, people, by the way,
that were setting those things out and sat out other
(12:07):
inaugurations that have had voting laws named after them here
in the state of Georgia. But anyway, well, voting law
is named after them nationally, but they themselves were here
in the state of Georgia. But that aside. That aside.
So according to our current Director of National Intelligence and
(12:27):
these documents released, she says that yes, Obama himself and
others Clapper, Comy Brennan, they were all responsible for creating
and finding the evidence to support this narrative and move
this forward to say Donald Trump wasn't a valid president,
(12:49):
and there was no evidence. Anything they found they weren't
able to corroborate. Was it real? Who's the threat to democracy?
I've told this story before multiple times on the show.
I remember very clearly towards the end of the first
(13:09):
Trump presidency when the second impeachment was coming along, and
there was talk then of we're gonna peach him. We
know that we don't have the evidence, we don't have
the votes, we're not going to be able to actually
convict him, but we're gonna do this impeachment and we're
going to try to make sure that no one will
ever vote for him again. We're gonna try to do this.
(13:30):
We're gonna just take a swing. We know it's not
gonna work, we're gonna try, and then we're gonna start
filing all these charges against him started to come in.
We're gonna prosecute him. And I remember talking to a friend,
close friend who told me and I said, they were
talking about the impeachment, where do you think this is
going to go? And it's going to go nowhere? But
(13:52):
I think they have to do it. That's what he said.
They have to do it because if it prevents him
from being president again, than the outcome is okay what?
And there are a lot of people who felt that way.
They felt the prosecutions were okay even though they were
all of reach. The felonies were a reach. It was
(14:14):
a misdemeanor, right, That's all it was. It was a misdemeanor.
He documented something in his records that was not what
it ended up being normally prosecuted as a misdemeanor. It
was with Hillary Clinton, that was with Barack Obama. But
(14:35):
they found a way to make it a felony so
that they could say, ah, he's a convicted felon, he
can't be president, when in reality he could still be president, right,
he still could be. They tried to get him off
ballots in Colorado. He wasn't gonna win Colorado anyway, but
they tried to get him off the ballots. And there's
this mindset of it's okay because he's so bad. It's
(14:57):
okay because he's Hitler, it's okay because he's a threat
to democracy. It's okay because you could do whatever you
have to do to try to preserve democracy. Now, I'm
not going to go deep into January sixth, but some
of the people on January sixth went into the Capitol
because they thought that the Democrats stole the election, that
(15:23):
they actually did that, and after hearing that Russia tried
to interfere and help Trump win, and people on the
left in the media saying, this is a viable thing,
this could have really happened, that Russia may have actually
helped Donald Trump win the presidency. Yet on the other side,
when you say, wait a minute, seems to me there's
(15:45):
a lot of suspicious things that happened during this COVID election,
and that maybe the election was stolen. There's no way.
There's no way somebody could steal an election. They can't
hack an election. It's not possible. Anybody who says otherwise
is crazy. And then you had people that went into
the Capitol because they thought they were standing up for
(16:06):
someone who was trying to subvert democracy. That's what many
of them thought. Some were just walking around in there,
Hey we can go in Okay, so most of them
I think we're doing But that's another conversation. The point
is now that it seems Obama and others Clapper Komi
(16:30):
Brennan caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Where
does this go? Can we take a minute and step
back and say, wait a minute, maybe they're the threat
of democracy. Maybe they have been all along, Maybe by
dismissing the will of the American people and making Joe
Biden step down as the candidate and not having any
(16:54):
sort of primary, just saying we're gonna let the vice
president just have the nomination votes. She couldn't win votes
when she was running as a candidate against Biden, so
we're not going to ask her to actually win any
votes and then be shocked and surprised when she doesn't
win the presidency and then have the excuse ready to go.
(17:15):
Americans are sexist and racist, and that's the only reason
that they didn't vote for It's not the only reason.
I don't think I had anything to do with it. Sure,
there's a few people that may be voted that way.
But as I've told you before, I have friends who
have told me stories of their relatives who are lifelong
(17:37):
Democrats who believe, because of their deep religious beliefs, for
whatever denomination, that they weren't going to vote for a
woman anyway. A man should be in charge. It's in
the Bible, they say, or whatever. Their particular text is
so you can say, well, this reason, that reason. I
think it's because we have a party who going back
(17:59):
to at least we now have some evidence twenty sixteen
fully capable of trying to subvert the will of the
American people. This is exactly that's a quote from Tulsi
Gabbert that they were trying to subvert the will of
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the idea, I guess of the total band versus the
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Monday morning, twenty, first day of July. I'm Wes, thanks
for joining me. I'll just say this, when it comes
to international travel, sleep deprivation is real, right. Having to
(00:32):
adjust and acclimate from being on the other side of
the planet takes longer than you would think. Jet Lag
is real. My friends, waking up at two in the
morning multiple times and just going, man, I'm really hungry.
That's what the experience has been like pretty much since
we've been home, not just for me, for I think
(00:53):
all of us. I don't know. Jill may have been
getting through the night now a couple of nights, but
it has been and I had one really good night night,
But for the most part, waking up at two continues
to be the thing. And our boys are trying to
adjust as well. So they got a few more weeks
before school gets started back for them, but I guess
(01:14):
two weeks well, so they got to really start making
some kind of an adjustment. I don't know what we
gotta do. We got to start sleeping through the night.
It'll come. It always comes eventually, So let's get started
on a Monday morning together, and now that it's going
to be a full week of shows, that's the plan anyway,
a full week of shows without any interruptions, no issues
(01:38):
with travel, no issues with flights, no issues with luggage,
none of those things. Just here with you this week,
God willing. Who knows life happens? Sometimes you never know,
You never know. So let's talk about first of all,
the story that I think we're probably all think getting
(02:01):
sick of, and I think there's some relevance to it,
to a really big story that happened at the end
of the week, some breaking news that happened on Friday
late in the day. And the first story I want
to talk about is the Astronomy CEO story. I guess
he's resigned, stepped down from his role. The coldplay, a
(02:25):
fair bust, I guess, is what you'd call it. I
don't know. They got caught, right, That's what happened. They
got caught he and the head of HR having a
snuggle together, not in an official relationship in any capacity,
at least not so the now former head of the
(02:46):
company's the former CEO's wife is concerned. So it happened
one of those things that it's almost surprising it doesn't
happen more often. I know there've been smaller scale versions
of this, where the kiss cam comes around at a
sporting event. Two people are there and you can tell
they don't want to be in the kiss cam. They're
probably not supposed to be there together. Sometimes it's maybe
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they've called out from work. Sometimes they're with someone they're
not supposed to be there with. They don't want to
be seen. They have to try to play it off.
This was two people at this Coldplay concert who tried
to play it off in the worst possible way. That
just made it worse. I know. There's been a number
of memes and all sorts of social media posts other
(03:29):
people giving hey, here's how you could have handled this.
Here's what you should have done instead of panicking and
ducking and dodging and all the things that you did.
In the movie Dodgeball, they did all those things. They ducked,
dodged all of that. So now we're on this side
of it where I think most of us are like, okay,
(03:50):
can we move on? There are people saying, hey, haha,
good good that the spouse now knows and that they've
been outed for this salacious relationship, this affair, whatever, all
those details, all that's out there, there's some that are
just saying, hey, good, another rich CEO goes down. And
(04:11):
that's kind of the angle I want to talk about
in this because I have seen the ares a post
floating around that it's that time of year again where
a CEO gets sacrificed to the gods, ha haha. And
in that particular post they also reference the Healthcare President
(04:34):
CEO who was murdered by a guy who apparently because
he's good looking, then people will forgive him. All right,
So it's okay to murder the head of United Healthcare
in cold blood, take him away from his family if
you're good looking or if people will justify it. And
(04:55):
they say, well, he was wronged by the healthcare system.
Oh I didn't know he had United Healthcare. Oh no,
he didn't. He had to healthcare somewhere else, and he
was having problems with getting some health care treatment. So
he murdered someone who had nothing to do with his problem.
But many perceive, oh, well, he's a rich CEO, and
we have this mentality now that's spread throughout this country.
(05:16):
This cancer that it's okay to hurt or kill people
if they go against something that you believe in in
any capacity. It doesn't matter. If they voted for someone
you didn't vote for, then it's okay. You can hurt them,
you can injure them, you can do whatever you want.
They're not people. They're fascists. They're horrible Nazi like little
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Hitler's running around. They're all those things. Because you help
Trump win. So and you act a little weird and quirky,
and you have autism and you're elon Musk, so you
must be a Nazi. And you did the same thing
with your hand that a number of politicians have done
over the years. It had nothing to do with Nazis
or Hitler or anything. You take a presidential candidate and
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they someone tries to shoot him in the ear, or
they do shoot him in the ear. They were trying
to shoot him more than in the year, but they
shoot him in the ear. A lot of conspiracy talk
around all that, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
What?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And the guy have spoons in his house, All these
kinds of questions that come up, and you can ask
those questions. Certainly, you can go down all those rabbit
holes if you want to. But the main focus that
I have in it is that when we dehumanize people,
then we put ourselves in a position where we can
really do anything that we want, and we can justify
anything that we want. If you say that Donald Trump
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is hitler and someone tries to kill him, and then
you're kind of forced to backpedal a little bit and go,
maybe it's awful thing that happened, and then someone else
does it, and then you keep calling him hitler and
a threat to democracy and all these horrible things. If
someone were truly a threat to democracy, you could probably
(06:55):
justify doing some things. I mean, if it was a
threat to American democracy and truly and you had some
evidence to lay out. But instead, what we're getting and
have been getting, is this talk, this conversation that people
are a threat to something, and then there's no real backup,
there's no justification, there's no explanation for it. They just
say he's a threat to democracy, and they trust that
(07:18):
the American people will do whatever it is that needs
to be done. Now, I'm not saying that they all
want cold blood and murder to happen, but some of
them do. And this cancer that's spreading through the country
is evidence of that. The fact that people think this
is funny that United Healthcare CEO was murdered, or that
(07:39):
the guys in the submarine died, or the people that died,
or with the Orca whales. These are all the CEOs
in this particular post that supposedly have been sacrificed to
the gods. And now this guy and his family being
torn apart. You could make all the cases you want
about it being justified because he was cheering on his wife.
(08:00):
That's fine. That's a whole separate conversation. Remember though, at
a time when people on the left would say, you
should mind your business. What people do in the privacy
of their bedroom should be, you know, their own private things.
We shouldn't get involved scandals, the Clintons, all those things.
(08:22):
We don't need to get involved in all that. That's
not our business. We don't need to be involved in that.
We don't need to talk about that, we don't need
to We need to leave people be. And then, of
course the privacy of your bedroom turned into parades and
celebrations and readings at libraries by drag queens. And then
they say, but they should be able to do this
(08:43):
out in public and it shouldn't be a problem. Isn't
that what these people were doing at the concert. I'm
not justifying the behavior of any of it. That's not
what I'm doing. I'm just pointing out the fact that
just be careful when you celebrate the fact that somebody's
sin are exposed. That's all. That's all I'm saying. You
have to be careful when you celebrate those things. And
(09:06):
you definitely shouldn't be celebrating when people get murdered, and
you shouldn't celebrate when someone's career or livelihood or life
gets thrown completely off course because of something that happens
in the name of politics. And that's not what happened
at the Coldplay concert. But I want to focus a
(09:27):
little bit on what the last couple of years, and
we can go all the way back really to twenty
sixteen if you want, and what life has been like
for a certain president and former president. See, there was
a time where he wins the election and all of
this talk about a Russian hoax comes out of nowhere,
(09:53):
in spite of the fact that there was apparently some
evidence to say that there was no Russian interference with
the election. And now on Friday we find out thanks
to our Director of National Intelligence, Tulca Gabbard, former Democrat
by the way, now independent who actually ran for president
against Trump, right, who says, wait a minute, I need
(10:16):
to release this, declassify and release this document that shows
that the Obama administration and Obama himself's goal with that
Russian narrative was to subvert the will of the American people. See,
Trump had just won and it was December of twenty sixteen,
December ninth to be exact. And according to Gabbard, she
(10:39):
says that there was a meeting, and in spite of
the fact that there was no evidence to support it,
she says, according to the evidence that she's released, that
Obama and others, senior members of this Obama team said,
go out and find the evidence. Go find it. There
(11:01):
was some sort of a Russian hack to the election.
And basically by claiming that the election was hacked, they
were starting to create a narrative that Trump didn't really win.
Does that sound like does that sound like anything at all?
That sound like he could be a concern. Remember, for
the last year we've been here in the threat to
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democracy claim that sounds like a threat to democracy, doesn't it.
The American people voted for Donald Trump to be president.
He won, he was going to be sworn in a
little over a month after this meeting took place, and
here was the sitting president trying to weaponize the Justice
Department to go after him. Then and then we had
(11:46):
impeachment hearings that came along, right, one of them related
to all this. They wanted to taint his presidency. They
wanted to say he wasn't a real president. We had
people that were sitting out going to his State of
the Union, going to his inauguration, people, by the way,
that were setting those things out and sat out other
(12:07):
inaugurations that have had voting laws named after them here
in the state of Georgia. But anyway, well, voting law
is named after them nationally, but they themselves were here
in the state of Georgia. But that aside. That aside.
So according to our current Director of National Intelligence and
(12:27):
these documents released, she says that yes, Obama himself and
others Clapper, Comy Brennan, they were all responsible for creating
and finding the evidence to support this narrative and move
this forward to say Donald Trump wasn't a valid president,
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and there was no evidence. Anything they found they weren't
able to corroborate. Was it real? Who's the threat to democracy?
I've told this story before multiple times on the show.
I remember very clearly towards the end of the first
(13:09):
Trump presidency when the second impeachment was coming along, and
there was talk then of we're gonna peach him. We
know that we don't have the evidence, we don't have
the votes, we're not going to be able to actually
convict him, but we're gonna do this impeachment and we're
going to try to make sure that no one will
ever vote for him again. We're gonna try to do this.
(13:30):
We're gonna just take a swing. We know it's not
gonna work, we're gonna try, and then we're gonna start
filing all these charges against him started to come in.
We're gonna prosecute him. And I remember talking to a friend,
close friend who told me and I said, they were
talking about the impeachment, where do you think this is
going to go? And it's going to go nowhere? But
(13:52):
I think they have to do it. That's what he said.
They have to do it because if it prevents him
from being president again, than the outcome is okay what?
And there are a lot of people who felt that way.
They felt the prosecutions were okay even though they were
all of reach. The felonies were a reach. It was
(14:14):
a misdemeanor, right, That's all it was. It was a misdemeanor.
He documented something in his records that was not what
it ended up being normally prosecuted as a misdemeanor. It
was with Hillary Clinton, that was with Barack Obama. But
(14:35):
they found a way to make it a felony so
that they could say, ah, he's a convicted felon, he
can't be president, when in reality he could still be president, right,
he still could be. They tried to get him off
ballots in Colorado. He wasn't gonna win Colorado anyway, but
they tried to get him off the ballots. And there's
this mindset of it's okay because he's so bad. It's
(14:57):
okay because he's Hitler, it's okay because he's a threat
to democracy. It's okay because you could do whatever you
have to do to try to preserve democracy. Now, I'm
not going to go deep into January sixth, but some
of the people on January sixth went into the Capitol
because they thought that the Democrats stole the election, that
(15:23):
they actually did that, and after hearing that Russia tried
to interfere and help Trump win, and people on the
left in the media saying, this is a viable thing,
this could have really happened, that Russia may have actually
helped Donald Trump win the presidency. Yet on the other side,
when you say, wait a minute, seems to me there's
(15:45):
a lot of suspicious things that happened during this COVID election,
and that maybe the election was stolen. There's no way.
There's no way somebody could steal an election. They can't
hack an election. It's not possible. Anybody who says otherwise
is crazy. And then you had people that went into
the Capitol because they thought they were standing up for
(16:06):
someone who was trying to subvert democracy. That's what many
of them thought. Some were just walking around in there,
Hey we can go in Okay, so most of them
I think we're doing But that's another conversation. The point
is now that it seems Obama and others Clapper Komi
(16:30):
Brennan caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Where
does this go? Can we take a minute and step
back and say, wait a minute, maybe they're the threat
of democracy. Maybe they have been all along, Maybe by
dismissing the will of the American people and making Joe
Biden step down as the candidate and not having any
(16:54):
sort of primary, just saying we're gonna let the vice
president just have the nomination votes. She couldn't win votes
when she was running as a candidate against Biden, so
we're not going to ask her to actually win any
votes and then be shocked and surprised when she doesn't
win the presidency and then have the excuse ready to go.
(17:15):
Americans are sexist and racist, and that's the only reason
that they didn't vote for It's not the only reason.
I don't think I had anything to do with it. Sure,
there's a few people that may be voted that way.
But as I've told you before, I have friends who
have told me stories of their relatives who are lifelong
(17:37):
Democrats who believe, because of their deep religious beliefs, for
whatever denomination, that they weren't going to vote for a
woman anyway. A man should be in charge. It's in
the Bible, they say, or whatever. Their particular text is
so you can say, well, this reason, that reason. I
think it's because we have a party who going back
(17:59):
to at least we now have some evidence twenty sixteen
fully capable of trying to subvert the will of the
American people. This is exactly that's a quote from Tulsi
Gabbert that they were trying to subvert the will of
the American voter. So who's the threat to democracy? Who's
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Week is underway. It started yesterday, So if you suffer
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from gallophobia, the fear of sharks, you probably want to
avoid the Discovery Channel all week. According to a survey,
fifty one percent of Americans say they're afraid of sharks.
Cite Hollywood depictions of them as the reasons why women
tend to be more afraid of sharks than men. Of
those that were polts that they want swim in the
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ocean because of sharks. You have a one in three
point seven million chance of being killed by a shark,
so you're saying there's a chance, right. There have been
fewer than five hundred fatal shark attacks around the world
in the past fifty years, most of them in the
movie Jaw No Shark franchise. I guess sharks should be
much more afraid of us. Sharks are sixteen times more
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likely to be killed by a human than the other
way around. And despite fears, seventy three percent of Americans
believe sharks should be protected and not killed unless absolutely necessary.
And I think we talked about this a while back,
but they call them. This is ranker dot COM's list
of the best shark movies, and this list Jaws, of
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course at the top, Deep Blue Sea, the shallows Jaws
to forty seven meters down, the meg the reef forty
seven meters down, uncaged, finding Nemo and Shark Knight. I
think if more movies were finding nemo sharks, we'd probably
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writing assignment, submit the job application, whatever it is. Does
this sort of person exist for hire? Well, his friend
Crystal suggested they help each other, which led to the
idea of hosting a party where friends gather to force
each other to complete the tasks of projects they've been
putting off. Tyler posted in the middle of a forcing
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party where friends and I are forcing one another to
do things we've been avoiding. So far, a passport has
been filed for, an inboxes zeroed, a personal website has
been created, and more. I recommend this format. A lot
of people enjoyed the idea or the thought of having
forcing parties on their own. Others say you can call
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it something more creative. Some have suggested just do it parties,
procrastinator parties, get or done parties. I guess for the
Larry the Cable Guy, fan, motivation madness, whatever you call it,
the idea is to get together with friends and use
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you've been putting off. For some I think this would work.
Sure obviously for Tyl or at work, whoever that is.
But the point is if it helps you get motivated
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it finished and completed, sure sounds like a good plan.
Should phones be panned at school. Well it's coming here.
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Sentiment changing about kids having phones in class. New Pew
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US say that they would support banning middle and high
school students from using phones during class, up from sixty
eight percent last fall. Just nineteen percent against the classroom bands,
and seven percent aren't sure. Interestingly, fifty seven percent of
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eighteen to twenty nine year olds support a ban on
phones in class, which is up from forty five percent
last year, still lower than support among those fifty and
older and the thirty to forty nine year old demographics,
So they say banning phones from school altogether is growing
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phone use by students during the entire school day, up
from thirty six percent last fall. Forty six percent of Americans, though,
still oppose all day bans, with another ten percent not sure.
Twenty five percent eighteen to twenty nine support the all
day ban. That's actually up from eighteen percent twenty twenty four. Yeah,
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the idea, I guess of the total band versus the
kids keep it in the locker and they have certain
times where they're able to use them or check them
or whatever it is that's really I guess the big difference,
and various school districts are basically trying to decide which
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of those seem to work best for them. I like
the idea too, of the kids not having them in
the lunch settings, because then they're forced to talk to
each other, they're forced to connect, and they're forced to
have that sort of connection while they're there at school.
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