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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Every patriot has an obligation to question authority. Those who
are honest are not concerned with your watchful vigilance, and
those with integrity are not concerned with your discernment. Every
American is obligated to voice their concerns and stand up
for their freedoms and liberties.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
All right, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Patriot and Federation.
For what is the nineteenth of May twenty twenty six.
The primary voting is happening today here in the state
of Idaho, also Oregon, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Kentucky, and I believe Alabama.
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If I'm not gonna say a few states today having
the primary voting. Of course, I'm most concerned with the
state of Idaho and hoping that those that we have
in office already that we have endorsed to retain their
seats or a couple of them replaced. A couple of
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Rhinos that we have seated in the state of Idaho. Anyway,
I'm your host, Bad Billy out of Twin Falls, Idahope,
joined as always by John Grovenor out of Nashville, New Hampshire.
How's it going out there, brother, it.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Is going, Billy.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
I'm telling you what I think. Somebody moved stayed a
little closer to the sun unexpectedly because it was a hot,
hot day today. But oh, in no man, I'm just
happy to be of this above the side of ground,
you know.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yes, yes, and joining us this week.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Of course, he joined the show back in twenty twenty three,
and it's good to have him back again.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I want to welcome Nick Bryant.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Of course, he's a part of the project called Epstein Justice,
so you know it's going to get dark and serious.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Nick. Thank you very much for joining. How are you today?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Great to be with you guys.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yes, yes, yes, Well start the conversation off.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Nick.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I got to tell you know what, last time you
and I talked here on this show, and Todd had
to sit in for John, but we were getting more
and more into the It was mainly.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
About human trafficking.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
But ever since you know the release of some of
the Epstein files and all that I got to tell you, Nick,
I had no idea how I knew it was serious,
but I just had no idea how dark and deep
this rabbit hole really goes. I mean, I'm still in
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shock of some of the things that have been uncovered.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Well, I've been saying for a number of years that
there were victims under ten years old and that some
of the pedophiles were extremely sadistic, and I've taken heat
for that, but this latest transh of document shows that
I was right about it. And the reason why I
was right about it is because I've been investigating Epstein
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at all since twenty eleven, and I've got a lot
of insights into that trafficking network. And I'd previously written
a book about a very large trafficking network called the
Franklin Scandal, and it was also covered up by state
and federal authorities. And in many ways, Epstein is a
carbon copy of the Franklin Scandal.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh, I got to ask you really quick, what do
you think of these? Okay, kind of like the old
Elvis Oh no, whatever, that there's there's a possibility he's
still alive. He's just grown along great beard and he's
hiding out in Israel.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Or whatever. What do you what do you say to that?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I don't believe that. It's kind of funny. I was
doing some research a couple of weeks ago, and someone
gave me a lead about someone that was involved with Epstein,
and I found her and I started sending I left
her a couple of voicemails, and then I left her
a couple of texts, and she hired an attorney who
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gave me just a vicious cease and assist email And
I said them, but more importantly, do you think Elvis
is still alive?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I mean I'm used to those, so I mean they
don't bother me at this point.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Oh, okay, I do. I do have to ask you
this though.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I mean, now, when you think between Elvis Presley, Adolph Hitler,
and Jeffrey Epstein, do you think one of those guys
survivors at all? Admit that they somehow secretly uh survived
and went and disappeared somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, there's been a lot regarding the survival of Hitler. Yeah,
I mean I think that the Elvis or Elvis was
too hooked on narcotics to I think survive. Anybody that
gets as constipated as he was. Is it long for
this world? It's my personal thoughts on that with Epstein.
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William Barr was our Attorney general at that point, and
William Barr is a very corrupt guy. And your audience
can google William Barr and there'll be a number of
malignant things that he's done over the years. And I
think that William Barr had Jeffrey Ebst and William Barr
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is a CIA guy. He's the attorney He was the
attorney general under Trump and then Bushwan, but he's a
CIA guy. I think he had Epstein picked up in
New Jersey, brought him to a metropolitan correctional center, and
I have a tendency to think that's where it was
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going to end for Jeffrey Epstein is in metropolitan correctional center. Yes,
there were two pibs in the Franklin Skin. One was
Lawrence King and one was Craig Spence. And Spence was
a lot like Epstein. He was very bombastic, very flamboyant,
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had a lot of connections, had a lot of power,
was a pedophile and also a blackmail artist. And he
started to get a lot of media attention, and like Epstein,
started to get a lot of media attention, and once
a blackmailer starts getting a lot of media attention, that
really truncates their career as a blackmailer. And then the
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Franklin scam. There was also Lawrence King, and then with Epstein,
there's Gleanne Maxwell. And I think that Spence committed suicide.
I don't think he was suicided. I think that he
committed suicide. I think that he was given an offer
he couldn't refuse. But yeah, I think that either he
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would have killed himself or the malignant organization that went
for what he killed. But I think with King and
Maxwell they were very similar. And I think that both
of them saw what happened to their compatriots in child
trafficking and they decided to keep her mouth shut. King
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kept his mouth shut and God, and this guy trafficked
hundreds of kids too. King kept his mouth shut good
about twelve years on financial crimes, no crimes about child abuse,
and he had a no show job waiting for him
at a BMW dealership in Virginia. And I think that
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Maxwell is going to keep her mouth shut, and she's
gonna when she gets out of prison. I mean, she's
already in the cushest prison there is, and King was
put in a very push prison too. I think that
she's going to keep her mouth shut and then the
show come out, and then she'll have a lot of
money waiting for.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
A big bribery of course, just to just stay quiet.
Do what time you have? Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, it's either you die or or you keep your
mouth shut. Do some time in the Kushis prison that
we've got, and then you've got a lot of money
waiting for you on the other side. I think that
that was the deal that was made with Maxwell.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
When you say keeper mouse shutter, you saying against other
criminal organizations, about people that were say politicians or people
that were engaging with Epstein activities or all the above.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
All the above.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Yeah, without that, I'm and have you had a chance
to talk to anybody who was willing to step forth
who were victims of all of this?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I have. I'm the director of Epstein Justice and
we actually have three Epstein survivors that are part of
our organization, and they're very disillusioned about the government and
the media. I mean, these poor girls have been failed
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at just about every level of state and federal law
enforcement and the judiciary just about every level. The only
law enforcement entity that did right by these victims was
the Long Beach or the Palm Beach Police Department. They
were the only ones that stood tall and were stand
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up about going after Epstein. Everybody else is just wilted.
And it really it's a sad commentary on our government
that we have allowed our government to traffic little girls
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with impunity. It's really it show, I think, and the
documents that have come out at the end of January
really show that we are in a battle for the
soul of our country.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Oh definitely, most definitely we I mean in more ways
than one. And this is this is just one of them.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Right, This is a symptom. This is a symptom of
what we've got, the kind of government that we have.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I think uh Biden had released up scene files that
were less reducted than Pam BONDI released, Oh she redected
so much more on sane files that released previous in
the previous administration.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Well, the thing about it is the Epstein cover up
isn't a Republican and a Democrat thing. The cover up
started under Bush two and then it continued under Obama,
it continued under Trump, it continued under Biden, and now
it's continuing under Trump. So it is it's this. This
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cover up isn't partisan, it's bipartisan. And I think that
people kind of jump the track a little bit when
they blame this party or that party for the Ebstein
cover up, because both parties have colluded in this cover up.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Absolutely. So now you brought up Trump, and I got
my opinion on Trump regarding this man. A lot of
people are making accusations he's covering up because he's guilty
of something. Do you think that's the case, or do
you think that in your investigative work, do you think
that maybe he's doing it more for political means because
he's trying to cover ground in a short period of time,
so he doesn't want this to be an obstruction to
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complete his task.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
The molestation of little girls should never be an obstruction.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Well, I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
We won't argue that.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Marjorie Kyler Green said that Trump told her my friends
are going to get hurt by this, and I believe
that Donald Trump has some very unsavory friends for sure.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Well that I have no doubt of myself.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, I mean the way he he was. You know,
I got to say this real quick, and then we
got to go to our first break. But you know,
forty seven is not the same that we experienced and
from forty five, yes, he's doing things that don't make sense,
but you know, as far as it's already been determined though,
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just because Trump's pictures are in the uh A lot
of the files. Though, what you got to realize there
that the elite saying out together they did didn't mean
they did all the same things. And Jeffrey Epstein did
say that that Trump was dangerous and he wants he
didn't want.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
To he wanted him out or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And of course there's the story of Jeffrey Epstein getting
kicked out of mirror A Lago. But let's pause right
there and take our first break, and we'll we'll continue
on that when we come back in about a minute
and a half. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are
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back and UH once again, we're joined by Nick Bryant
of Epstein Justice. Now just picking up where we left
off there. Nick, let's say you on that on the
story that Epstein was kicked out of mir A Lago
and that Trump was was too dangerous, whatever it was,
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he said, I don't know, have you heard anything about that?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Well, there was an email that where Epstein stated that
he was never kicked out of Mari logo, that he
wasn't a member of Mari Lago and therefore he wasn't
kicked out. I mean, it's obvious that Trump and Epstein
had some pretty intense antipathy towards each other. They had
once been very good friends, but they at I don't
know what happened in there's conflicting stories about what caused
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the split, but they definitely didn't like each other for sure.
I think after two thousand and four, two thousand and five.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yes, now I want to go back to what you
said a little bit ago. You said, you know, the
cover up started with Bush Junior. But that's when the
cover up started. When do you think the trafficking and
the ugliness originally started.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I think they're probably started in the early nineties. Maria
Farmer went to the FBI, and the Ladive Trench of
document shows that she went to the FBI in nineteen
ninety six and tried to tell the FBI about Jeffrey
Epstein and she was just ignored. But I think Epstein
started trafficking proudly in the early nineties. His life kind
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of takes off when he's given power of attorney over
less Wexner's fortune, and that's in nineteen ninety one. But
Epstein wasn't. The thing about Epstein was he was involved
in arms trafficking with people that were affiliated with the
Ran Contra so and he continued arms trafficking up until
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shortly before his death. He also wandered money. It's Leon
Black gave Jeffrey Epstein one hundred and sixty million dollars
and the cover story was Jeffrey Epstein helped him on
his taxes. Les Wexner gave Jeffrey Epstein power of attorney
over his billions because and Vanity Fair said this, he
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can't make it up because he was lonely. So I
think Jeffrey Epstein was also a money launder. If you
were a team evil and you had a first found
draft choice, he would be the guy. He can launder money,
he can do arms deals, and he's a pedophilic pimp
and a blackmailer.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yes, you know, And I want to talk about to
some of these celebrities. Now, something interesting I heard and
you know, as far as the Bill Cosby case goes
is you know, is how much of that is true?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I mean, this was this was quite some time ago,
mind you. But a lot of women did come forward
and say that, you know, he One woman said that
if you remember, you guys probably remember contacts, right, the
cold pills that looked like candy, You remember them that
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they used to have commercials for him.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
The capsules well might have been ahead of my time.
I'm not sure. Oh no, okay, I remember, yeah. And
they had little, uh, little beads inside.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Of them, yes, exactly so.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
And they did make you drowsy too, because that's what
I took when I was a kid, when I had
got of coldest contacts. And apparently, you know, Bill Cosby
gave this woman some contacts and uh, she's she kind
of woke up. She's she's doped up pretty bad. Bill
Cosby's got his hands all over her. But the timing
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of his arrest was, you know, because Bill Cosby is
primarily conservative, and what he's good at is talking since
into into some some youngsters, particularly in the black community,
that want to raise hell. So they they arrest him
right around right around the Summer of Love. So he
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can't speak. So the rumor says, you know, so I
don't know if that any of his accusations and the stuff,
if he allegedly did his tied to Jeffrey Epstein. But
I'm quite sure that it comes to Harvey Weinstein that's
tied to Jeffrey Epstein right there.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Cosby was tied more to Hugh Hefner than anyone else,
but Weinstein's Jeffrey Epstein excoriates Harvey Weinstein for mistreating people,
and there's and this guy has been unscathed. His name
is doctor Henry Jareki. He's a psychiatrist and he's also
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a billionaire, and he was good friends with Epstein. Epstein
used to send his victims that needed that he felt
needed psychiatric help. He would send to doctor Jareki or
Henry Jareki, and he would either put them on antidepressants
or give them benzodiazepines. But he also molested them too,
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And so there's a lot of people out there that
are high and mighty that were molesting these kids. But
it's not only directing. But I'm really surprised that he
has gone under the radar, and no one's even accused
him of it, and Epstein wrote him an email saying
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that excoriating him because he was mistreating people. So if
Epstein says you're mistreating people, that's got to be pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yes, yes, and something else, because you know, I'm I'm
on another show every Monday with redickx Verimont Patriot Soapbox,
and she talks talks into a lot about this. This
is this is what was through her that I found
out how how deep and dark this rabbit hole goes.
Because some of the things she was talking about, It's
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like my stomach started to turn. I couldn't believe what
I was hearing. You know, But they were really they
were really really good at hiding things through the Pizzagate.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Codes.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Were were they not like they you know they I
don't know if you've heard of this, John, but they'd
give like, oh I want extra pepperoni or something, which
which would mean like you know, they wanted they wanted
a redhead or something like like that.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
You know, Yeah, I did hear stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
It's uh, yeah, so that that way, it just sounds
like they're talking about pizza, but really there's everything has
a meaning behind it. So it sounds like it's okay,
but behind the scenes is believe not.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
There's even there's even accusations that, uh, I guess Elon
Musk was was in on it a little bit, but
the fact that, you know, let's just face, Elon Musk
is honestly not that bright of a guy with his
high autism, and when he was talking pizza, he was
seriously talking pizza, and and they're they're like, oh, forget it.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Well, that's the thing about the coded language. I looked
at muffins and steaks, Freud said. Someone told Freud, you know,
you smell a lot of cigars, and they're a phallic symbol,
because Freud was obsessed with falx symbols. And Freud said,
sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And with some
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of this terminology, I concluded that sometimes just a muffin
is a muffin, and sometimes a steak is just a steak.
But there are other code words like pizza, which are
obviously code words for sure.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
I think I've heard that they use other food products
and stuff for any windows to have different meanings. But
you know, I sat there one day when I was
a much younger man, I listened to a guy talking
about marijuana and the purchasing themselves as such, and you
get on the phone with somebody. He was talking about
this carbore for the car he wanted to get, so
they knew what they were talking about. But anybody listening
to the phone conversation dumbleotto repair.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, I mean it's there's I think that there's code terminology.
But then also in a number of the emails, Epstein says,
We've got to talk about this on the phone. So
although he felt he was operating with impunity, there was
stuff that I think was so perfidious and evil that
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he said, we got to switch over to the phone.
We're seeing that in these emails. It was funny when
I was starting to look through the emails. I was
in the emails that kind of surprised me. In twenty eleven,
when I started to investigate Epstein, I got his Black
Book and I started calling victims. Now Epstein had a
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code in the Black Book for under massages. There were
his victims, and to call these girls in Florida that
were under massages. And the first one was kind of
a strange conversation. I was talking to this girl's mother
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and the mother was. I was asking the mother questions,
and the mother was asking her questions. She the mother
wanted to help me, but then she didn't want to
subject her daughter to a journalist that she didn't know,
which I totally understand. But she had originally been molested
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by Epstein when she was thirteen years old. And then
I talked to a woman and she said she'd been
flown around, and she's been flown to an island. And
I think I might have been the first guy, at
least in the media to know about the island. But
then after I realized, I became fairly confident that Epstein
was running a network much like I'd written about in
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the Franklin Scale. But I had all these numbers of
his inner circle. So I started to call his inner circle,
and no one picked up except Sarah Kellen, who was
a recruiter and a precurer, and she was telling me
how poorly the media had treated her, and I guess
she wanted me to commiserate with her, but I wasn't
willing to commiserate with her. So it was a relatively
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sharp phone call. But here's what happened. Someone told somebody
about me, and there was an email sent to his
inner circle saying, there's this journalist Nick Bryant. He's digging
into things being quote unquote aware of him. And then
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they had a picture of me, and I turn up
in three emails, So it's they. I guess they were
kind of concerned about me.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
They probably had a private eye on you one time.
Then if they thought you were a threat to actually
have that kind of conversation, probably tap your phone.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, it's a good thing I live a clean life,
or else what I do would be uh, I would
be able to do it.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Indeed.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
All right, well, hey, uh there's other things I want
to touch up in this conversation, so uh well, we'll
get to that. But it is the bottom of the hour,
and we're going to take our bottom of the hour break.
With that said, we'll be back in about two minutes.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back once again.
We're joined by Nick Bryant of Epstein Justice. Now, a
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little while ago, Nick I asked you, you know when when
the ugliness actually started, and I and something occurred to me,
you know, some talk that I had as a little kid,
and I'm pretty sure John has a little kid and
something you talk you had at a little kid, and
that is, you know, be careful talking to strangers. It's like,
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I'm not hearing that anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I thought it was a good idea, you know, put
missing children on the back of a milk carton and
they get away with.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
That, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
And and it seems like you said it started in
the early nineties, and that's pretty much when I can recall.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I don't hear don't talk to strangers anymore. What is there?
This a coincidence or.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
What I think that predators know how to pray? I
mean that that's the bottom line. The network that I
wrote about it got a lot of these networks. They
get kids that fall through the cracks, generally from lower
socioeconomic dysfunctional families. But the network that I wrote about
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in the Franklin scandal actually got kids out of Boystown,
the famous orphanage on the outskirts of Omaha. And then
they also got kids out of foster homes. And the
importance of that is the kid is already conditioned. You
can't take a kid off the streets and throw them
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in to a room with a senator or someone that's
in the cabinet or a cabinet of industry. They have
to be conditioned, they have to show deference, and that's
what Boystown and these foster care homes did. And then
of course the kids can be conditioned by the pimps
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for sure. And Jeffrey Epstein primarily preyed on lower socioeconomic
kids and that that was a hook for them. Two
or three hundred dollars was substantial. And I think that
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they were groomed of course before they met Jeffrey Epstein,
and I think a lot of them didn't know what
they were getting into, but eventually there are. Jeffrey Epstein
was like a cult, and like Charles Manson, and people
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just within that gravitational bull got brainwashed. And people that
are getting abused by Jeffrey Epstein and as cronies think
that they've got a great life going on because they're
being flown around and they're given money, but they don't
realize how much damage is taking place with them because
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they're just seduced and brainwashed by the what is essentially
a cult.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
M Now one other thing too, if you ask me,
I don't think Child Protective Services does their job properly anymore.
I mean, actually it's not. I don't think that. I
know for a fact they don't do their job properly anymore,
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because I've had a couple of key This is where
I've called CPS on somebody and nothing was done, and
they bet this kid, these children that I'm talking about
badly needed help me and and nothing was done for them.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Then you have the case. Why Am and Bundy is.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Facing a sixty million dollar lawsuit right now is because
CPS took it upon themselves to take away baby Cyrus
just because one doctor's.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Appointment was missed.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
So I've I know it may be two separate things, Nick,
But would there be any connection you think between Jeffrey
Epstein and possibly corrupt child protective service agents?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
No? But our society, Well, here's what I think. And
I wrote a book in nineteen ninety five about lower
socioeconomic children, and I've written a lot about lower socioeconomic children.
I myself had a difficult childhood, so I've been very
sensitive to issues about children and children. Families with children
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are the fast growing segment of the homeless population. Children
in the Heartland experienced hunger. Millions of them experienced hunger.
A lot of them don't even have healthcare insurance. And
all these things combine and it shows that what we're
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seeing in our society, I believe we're triggering, and CPS
is also a symptom of it is a wholesale destruction
of our children. And Epstein represents a retail destruction of
our children. Where there's a wholesale destruction, there's a retail destruction.
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And if your audience is really interested in learning about CPS,
there's a guy named Key Harmon Snow he was former
buddy of mine. He's written a great book. It's called
The Worst Interest of the Child and anybody that has
any questions about CPS should read that book. And so
that's it's a very very important book.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yes, yes, because I like, you know, I think Child
Protective Services has just become a child trafficking operation in
many parts.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I mean, I mean, you still have your good.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Eggs that are are there to do the do the
job for the right reasons, but there are big cases too.
Like you know, child Protective Services comes in on a family,
they go in there, the house is clean, the children
are not abuse, so they have nothing to go on.
So the CPS agent will have like a bag of
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dope on them or something and planet in the house
and then say, oh look what I have here, you know,
so they'll set some of them will be dirty and
set them up like that too.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
There's corruption on all levels of billy and that's really
what you're hitting upon. It doesn't necessarily mean it's connected
that way, but you're getting into somewhat Luff likes to
refer to as issues that are systemic, and this is
what is it? Like resources, there's incompetence involved, people that
have jobs that probably should have jobs in places. There's
a lot going on, But you're not wrong to say
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in some cases there's perruption involved. And that does happen
when we see it all often and I don't cop bash,
but sometimes even law enforcement officers have all what they
call what they call it a drop or something like
that when they plant something and somebody's card will searching
their car for illegal substances. Crookedness is everywhere. But Nick
has a point. A lot of this is preying upon
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dysfunctional families, and we have like the political left is
horrible for this because they'll tell you how they want
to protect our children, but they don't act like it.
So Donald Trump says, let's close down the border because
there's a lot of muling going on. There's a lot
of drug traffic going on, things going on the border,
and they say, no, no, no, we should leave the
border wide open. Then we see Biden over here flying
children in from foreign countries and these children are disappearing.
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And what was the other way, Well, the drug abuse
is alone because they allowed this, They do not do
anything to police to be effectually police our neighborhoods.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
They've disempowered the American people.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Militias used to take care of, you know, a civil
militia used to take care of a lot of the
policing back in the day, right if you have criminal
crimes going on. They got together and they said, were
the armed citizens, We're going to knock this stuff right
out of our communities and protect our families. And we
don't do that anymore. We don't even assist law enforcement
officers anymore. So they're allowing a lot of drug flow
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into our country, which is creating a lot of this dysfunctionalism.
So basically, this is a top down process that is
very systemic.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Am I wrong in this?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I think our our government and our society as I
said earlier, we're in a battle for the soul of
our country. And here's an example of a really bad
example of how the federal government handled Ebstein. Early on,
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the Palm Beach Police Department did an investigation into Ebstein.
A fourteen year old told her mother that she'd been
molested by Jeffrey Ebstein, and the mother took her to
the Palm Beach Police Department. And the girl she was from,
again a lower socioeconomic family, but she described Epstein's home
his anatomy, and the Palm Beach Police Department believed her,
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and they found a number of other witnesses to come forward,
and then they found people that corroborated the girls. And
they were going to arrest Ebstein on five four counts
of unlawful sexual activity with a minor in one kind
of looting, Lasivius molestation and that case. And Michael Writer
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was the Palm Beach Police chief, and he's the unsung
hero and all this. I mean, that guy would not
back down. He took a lot of heat and he
would not back down. But then that case got taken
away from them and given to a state grand jury,
and that grand jury just called two of Epstein's victims,
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and then Lanna Bejolavic, the special prosecutor, just skewed those
poor girls. So the grand jury returned no indictments for
child abuse for Jeffrey Epstein. But then Michael Ryder went
to the US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida,
Alexander A. Consta, and he goes, you guys have got
(36:34):
to do something about this. You got to do something
about this, and they ultimately drafted a sixty count indictment
against Jeffrey Epstein, and count fifty one was child trafficking,
and that sixty condenment was going to put Jeffrey Ebstein
(36:54):
away for the rest of his life. And Alexander A. Consta,
who was the US attorney, was told he had to
stand down. And there's only two people in the government
that can tell a US attorney to stand down. One
is the Attorney General and one is the president. The
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message can be delivered by a minion of the Attorney
General or the president, but that's where it has to emanate.
So the Attorney General at that point was Alberto Gonzalez
and the President was George Bush too, So that Epstein
cover up in two thousand and eight emanated from the
highest apex of our government. And when you've got a
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government that's involved in that type of criminal behavior, we've
got a problem.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
We didn't have a lot of witnesses that were victims
that came forth, but what weren't they kind of paid
off and basically shunned a way, given they are what
they called India and they're pretty much by one of
them made a statement, she says, listen, I've got kids, now,
I've got a family, now, I've got things going on
in my life. For the last thing I needed to
have it destroyed by this, and which kind of indicated
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that they were being an influence behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Let me add real quick, let me add to your question.
Or were they threatened?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, yes, okay, so they're okay. The Feds knew of
forty under age Stein victims and they just covered it
all up. But later the Epstein Victims Compensation Program was
established from Epstein's wealth and a state. And now the
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government's saying there's twelve hundred victims. There might be more, probably,
but only two hundred and twenty five victims applied for
compensation from the Epstein Victims Compensation program, and the compensation
was awarded to one hundred and fifty victims, but I
think eight or ten or twelve declined because if you
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took money from the EMBc Victims compensation program, you had
to sign a release that said that you would not
litigate against any of your other perpetrators unless your lawyers
said it was all right. And I think that that
is really corrupt and that should be overturned.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
But if you look at all the victims and only
two hundred and twenty five showed up, the reason why
those numbers are so skewed is they were they were
very frightened. Yea, they were very frightened.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yes, well, we're at the final quarter, so we're going
to take our final break and we'll be back to
wrap things up in about a minute and a half.
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Nick Bryant of Epstein Justice, and it's been a great conversation. Nick,
I got to ask you, with some of the victims
you've talked to, I mean, how strong and how bad
is some of the PTSD that they're forced to endure
after everything they've been through.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Trauma is unavoidable in situations like that, and you just
hope that someone who's been through that type of trauma
can find a good therapist, a competent therapist that that
can help them. I think a spiritual life is also
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important too, but I know that that a competent therapist
is really really essential. And I've spoken at a number
of anti trafficking conferences and I've got to meet people.
And actually i spoke at the International Society for the
Study of Trauma and Dissociation out they're one of their
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international conferences. So I've gotten to know a number of
the therapists that work with these these kids or young
adults or adults that have been subjected of this type
of trauma, and and it's it's it takes a certain
kind of knowledge and empathy to work with people like this,
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And I know that there are people that have been
through a lot of trauma that have not gotten the
right therapists that they need. So you kind of hope
that that that's the case, that they get a good therapist.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
You know, John, somebody else we got to get right
here on the show too, who has worked in preventing
child trafficking and and those going along those lines, and
has gotten as deep into it as Nick as here.
Another gentleman by the name of Craig Sawman. Sawyer, someone
I'm sure you're familiar with, Nick, and great gentleman.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
We got to get him here on the show. I've
talked to him in the past, absolutely, Man.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
So Nick, I'm kind of curious in your research what
went on at the Epstein Island. Besides what the obvious
what we already know. It was a pleasure island, right,
so it wasn't always nefurious for everybody. We don't know
who did what. There was there anything descriptive about things
that happened at the course of being the Thie Island,
how they did things, or things that just went on
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in general.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Well, there were definitely orgies there. For sure, other things
could have happened there that were much darker, but we
don't have definitive information on that yet. I think that
with this latest transfer of documents, we saw a whole
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new level of evil, But I don't think that, And
it's the type of evil I've been looking for since
I've been investigating Epstein. But I think that there's another
level of evil that should come out, that needs to
come out. And I mean Epstein's talking about torture with
some of the people that he's interacting with. They're talking
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about kids that are eleven or nine or so or ten.
So we're kind of just get in a thumbnail I
think right now the evil that Epstein and his perpetrators perpetrated.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
Oh and I was actually thinking, you go the other direction, say,
oh no, these st have concerts and bring entertainment and stuff.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Maybe a certain thing, right, but wow, you just went
dark on that one.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
Also, Billy, if you don't mind, I would like to
get a little bit of attention on his website because
you are for campaign trading and stuff, and I think
it's important for those that are listening to Heaven they
can help participate.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, I would suggest that your audience, if you want
to do something about this, go to Epstein Justice dot com.
We are a grassroots movement. No one's given us a
lot of money. We're just a lot of us are
you know, work work for far less than the minimum wage.
But we teach people how to put pressure on their representatives.
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We've got webinars. We're gonna have a webinar next Tuesday
about the life and death of Virginia Giuffrey. There's a
lot you can You can sign a petition that has
over eighty six thousand signatures. If you go to Epstein
Justice dot com, you can get involved. We have to
fix this as a society. We cannot allow our government
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to cover up child trafficking anymore. We just we just
can't do it. And what Epstein Justice what we're vying
for is an independent congressional commission and an independent congressional commission.
It's going to require a majority in the House and Senate,
but I think that we can pressure and shame our
legislators into it because an independent congressional commission bounces things
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outside the political system. Can has that ability to bounce
things outside the political system and unshackle them from politics,
and oftentimes independent congressional investigations employ non government personnel for
investigations because as long as we're stuck in the political
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system that we're in, we're not going to get the
truth about Epstein and we're not going to be able
to prevent future Epstein's. I don't think unless we really
know a lot about this, So I think we kicked
around a lot of stuff. But it's very simple. We
want an independent congressional commission that has two objectives. One
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we want to know why the government covered up child
sexual abuse, and two we want the perpetrators to be prosecuted.
Very simple, and I think it's something that every American
can embrace, whether you're on the right, whether you're on
the left, whether you're in between, and it's something that
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we have to do. And I'm seeing Justice, I believe,
is the only organization that has a plan. There are
a lot of organizations out there that say, well, this
is bad and that's bad, but we actually have a
plan to do something about this. We just need more
Americans to participate with us.
Speaker 5 (48:20):
Absolutely, you know the way I see it, If Congress
doesn't care about protecting the most innocent of our nation.
How much do they care about you?
Speaker 4 (48:28):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (48:29):
Are they looking up for anybody's interest if they don't
care about the well being of children of this country.
And sometimes it doesn't seem like they exhibit much concern
regarding such matters. It's almost as if if we could
put a dollar side in front of it for them,
they'd be all over it, like white on rice. But
because there's no money involved, in no way to make
money off it, then you know, it seems to be
you know, disregarded.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Well, children don't have any lobbyists, and that's why they're
treated the way they are in our society is they
don't vote, they don't have money, they don't have lobbyists,
and well, it's something that we have to change. And
I mean, children are the most precious resource of any country,
and our politicians give lip service to that, but they
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don't they don't put their money where their mouth is.
So Epstein Justice, We've got a plan. You can go
to our website. There's a lot of things that you
can do. You can sign our petition, you can check
out our webinars, you can join one of our Facebook
pressure groups. By states, there's a lot of things that
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we offer that people can do. I think that people
just see Epstein as this huge monolith of evil and
they feel alienated and disempowered because it's been covered up
for so long. But now and I think that this
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latest tranch of documents really does show how evil it
is and we have to do something about it. The
majority of Americans want to do something about this, So
we need to do something about this.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
You got you got a part on that website. I
kind of like where I have to go back to
your second to read it. But uh, committed and non
committed members of Congress for Yes talking about and I
click on it and I look up my state. We
have two representatives and two senators of my state. All
four of those are non committed. That's something to be
aware of. You realize, hey, wait a minute, people my
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own state don't give a crap.
Speaker 4 (50:35):
We got to do something.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
We've gotta we got to put pressure on our our
legislators to give a crap about this. And the thing
about politicians is, I firmly believe that they don't act
unless there's fear, and we have to put fear into them.
And we can do that with numbers. There's roughly three
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hundred million adult Americans. If ten of those three hundred
million joined us, we we could do it. If we
put thirty million people in Washington, DC wanting justice, we
could do it. So we just need ten percent of
the population.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Yeah, So the website, of course, it's going in the
ticker there, Epstein Justice dot com. Fortunately we are out
of time, but it's been a great conversation. And uh,
sometime in the future we're gonna have to talk again, Nick,
because this is a it's dark stuff, but it's still important.
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And yeah, Epstein Justice and uh, what is your ex scandal?
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Uh? Nick, double space, double underscore.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Brian, Okay, all right, and we're gonna have an interesting
show Nick. Next week is we're gonna welcome a musician
by the name of Kathy Bell or she goes by
Ma Bell when she's on the stage, and we're gonna
make it a bit lighthearted next week and play I
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don't play a couple of songs and have a good
conversation this This has been a great conversation, Nick, and
I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
God bless you.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
Thank you, guys, thank you, and ladies and gentlemen, thank
you very much. For tuning into Patriot Confederation. God save
the Republic of the United States of America.
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