The Common Sense Conservatives

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters, every Wednesday
evening from seven to eight pm right here on WUSMN
fifteen ninety AM, WUSMN ninety five point three FM, and
it streaming live on WUSMN dot Live. Making sense of
the inverted reality we are subject to you every day.

(00:24):
The Common Sense Conservatives are here to help bring you
back to reality. Now, your hosts, Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley,
and John Glovin.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hello everybody, and welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives. It
is another Wednesday night, and we are here in the studio,
all three of us. Todd, how you doing tonight, buddy, Oh.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Not bad, hanging in there, just taking it day by day.
My friend, how are you up there in New.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hampshire doing well? Doing well?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Man?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Of course if I hit the right buttons that helps.
Over here on my hand, Chris, how you doing over
there in Southeast Pennsylvania?

Speaker 4 (00:56):
South Central? South central?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I'm sorry south central man?

Speaker 4 (01:00):
All right. We don't really say south central sounds too
much like la. We just say central Pa. Yeah, yeah,
now I'm doing fine. Thanks for asking. I appreciate that.
Just back from a trip to Orlando, where I met
about another one hundred and fifty South African refugees in Orlando, Tampa,
Saint Pete and PAULM. Harbor. Interesting weekend and another. I'm

(01:21):
getting kind of tired of exhausted all these trips. It's
like I'm back in the army, except I'm not getting paid.
That's a big problem.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, man, all that travel and stuff. Where's you out
after a while? That's antruckt over, you might know. Yeah,
rumor has it, rumor has it? All right, So people
are claiming that Trump's just not very accepted in the
world and people don't have any respect for him. But
did you see that welcome he got in China.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, it's true. It was a big welcome, a lot
better than the ones he get that the Obama got.
But then again, the Chinese, you know, it's communists. They
just put them out there and make them do what
they tell them. It is, so we got it. We
gotta temper that with little reality. But yeah, it was
a great welcome for Trump. I think that the Shijiping
is trying to put on a good show to make
his point that that Trump is important in America. Is important.

(02:11):
That's what they're trying to do.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, yeah, well Trump is important. He seems to be
moving the world right now. I think that's his goal,
isn't it is? He wants to better things for the
United States of America, reposition us in the globes that
we maintain a position of strategy and kind of power,
you know, to put it bluntly, I mean, he wants
to keep us in a position where we can benefit

(02:33):
as opposed to where the Bidens and Obamas have put us.
And you know, at a deprecating level.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, yeah, he definitely wants to make sure that America's
a strong place. There's no doubt about that. And there's
nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying that the Chinese,
it's great that they welcome him, but it's not to
be entirely unexpected, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, Well, it's a good show. It's kind of like
when he goes to Saudi Arabia. Well, they let him
into the palace, and as to my understanding, they don't
often the president into the palace over there. So it
was a really good show for Trump over there. But yeah,
the same sort of walking where they had the females
then they did that that greeting that's respect for leaders
and stuff like that as they come through.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I got hundred percent. I agree with
you with that. So, yeah, Trump is this is a
rather important trip for him. I was asked by South
African media outlet that I can interviewed frequently on up
here on their program Business. They asked me about, well,
what I think is may discussed there, and I said, well,
there's going to be a public discussion that you're going
to know about, and there's going to be a private discussion.

(03:34):
I mean, all of them are private conversations. There's being
a private conversation that no one's going to know about.
And I said, the private conversation is probably gonna be
Trump telling Shijie Pink to knock off the spying on
America or we're going to take drastic steps against you.
We've just arrested another Chinese spy who was a mayor
in a suburb of Los Angeles. She's pled guilty to
spying for the Chinese Communists, and so that's probably gonna

(03:54):
be top of it, along with intellectual property theft and
you know that sort of stuff that's going on. But
the spying isn't us by political figures, and you know
people who sleep with Chinese spies like you know Eric
Fangfang Swallwell, it's also rampant in our universities where they're
stealing their electoral property or artificial intelligence, our chip processing
manufacturing ideas, all of our chemical processes are and it's rampant.

(04:16):
So Trump is going to have his conversation with him.
That's going to be a private conversation that can't be
public because of embarrass the Chinese. And the second one
is going to be He's going to tell them knock
the crap off, quit threatening the Philippines in Vietnam and
Indonesia and Taiwan and Japan and Korea, or we will
I don't know if he's to say this, but I
would we will reinstitute US military bases in Taiwan and

(04:36):
put U patriot missiles there and tactical ballistic missiles. Anyway,
That's what I would say to But that's pretty provocative.
But China needs a little smack upside the head now. Publicly,
what they're going to talk about is trade, you know,
and lowering tariffs and also opening markets up in China
for you as goods and vice versa this side. So
that's but it's a very important trip, particularly given that

(04:59):
there's no war on Iran, but there is a war
in Iron, but there is no warn around. There's peace
and around, but there's no peace in Iran. We don't
know what the hell's going on Iron. So with that distraction,
this Chinese trip becomes all the more important because of course,
you know eventually they're gonna come back at election times.
A Trump probabs to end the war in one day
in Ukraine, which was a joke. No one never went
went the war won ended one day, But that that's
going to come back to bite Trump, probably his fall

(05:20):
if something is done. At meantime, people are starting to
get a little bit antsy about the price of fuel,
even though the price of fuels all you got about
twenty five or thirty percent, whereas more than doubled under
Joe Biden. We seem to have forgotten that collectively. But
I think this is very important for trip for Trump.
It wasn't that important in my mind until we had
the attack on Iran. Now it's that important, and it

(05:40):
wasn't as important to the US as it was to
China who desperately needs this meeting until Iran now both
leaders desperately need a good meeting. So I think that
something positive will come out of this from both sides,
at least publicly. That's my view on it.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I think you're right. Wasn't it a concern that China
may be assisting Iran during this effort and that might
be part of the catalyst of the meeting that Trump's
kindly gonna be back off, back out. You know, We're
going to handle this, and the more you interfere, the
worse it is for you.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, I think the approach Trump will probably take on that,
and if he's clever, and he's pretty clever business man,
would be more like, well, you know, the longer that
we blockade Arounz oil, the longer your your energy strangle
is gonna take place. We don't want that to happen.
We want your comedy to forest just so we want
your comedy for us. You know, if you happen to
be sending weapons there, that really doesn't help the situation.
That prolongs conflict and allows them to survive longer. So
we will continue to blockade, and if you continue to

(06:31):
supply weapons to them. Well, that just makes it last longer.
Who loses in that equation.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Right, and a reason with them?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Huh, Well, I mean what other approach is there. I mean,
we're not gonna bomb them, they have nuclear weapons.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, no, we have no interest in going to engaging
in China that way. Obviously it wouldn't be to anybody's benefit.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yeah, no, it wouldn't be. We don't need that. But
hopefully the Chinese will clear their act, but I doubt it.
You know, it's as entirely self interested for them what
they're doing. They don't care about the rest of the world.
They think it's their natural, god given right to dominate
Asia and to control the countries. They are neo mercantilist,
you know, colonial state, that's what they are. And they
are colonizing the world. They're colonized Africa with a couple

(07:11):
of million Chinese flooding in Africa. People have no grasp
in the actual the number of Chinese throughout Africa this stage.
So yeah, China is a dangerous actor that has malevolent ambitions.
It doesn't do things in the interest of others. You know,
for instance, they've just offered duty free access to all
their African trading partners. Well, where's that been for the
last twenty six years? When the United States did it?

(07:32):
It wasn't there until Trump. Now Trump's suspended Congress brought
it back. But China's never done that. They're just doing
it now because they're trying to compete with the US.
It's just getting more traction in Africa than the Chinese realize.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, they what else have got going on over there?
But how do you think China's economy is going to
fair with their losing their labor? I mean, ity's just
going to depend on robotics alone. You think robotics is
going to fill that gap for them? Or are they
going to be really in trouble economically for labor shortages.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Well, they're already in trouble economically for a lot of reason.
Number one, much of their economy is just fantasy. It's fiction.
It's accounting eras. And they've built cities where virtually no
one lives that are beginning to decay because they're not occupied,
highways that nobody utilizes. If you look at China, within
fifty miles of the shore is where the vast majority
of the country GDP is located. Almost everything that produce

(08:23):
comes within fifty miles of the sea. The rest of
the country is at backwater. Some of the thirteenth century
country people still using donkey carts to do agriculture. In
many parts of China, most of the people are also
suffering from unrealized expectations. China has produced a middle class
now of one hundreds of millions of people who have
bigger ambitions than the Chinese economy allows them to have,
and also their personal freedoms. They've also screwed this thing

(08:46):
up with the one child policy. Now they have a
skewed population, impyramids out of control, and the population is declining.
India is a larger country by population now China's slipping
down the ranks in the size of the country. They
have severe demographic issues here. They have an aging workforce
and they are in a lot of trouble, not just
because but but your point about robotics and AI will
probably be very helpful. That's one reason why they're so

(09:07):
eager to get into it, not just to make money.
They need it to survive because they have to come
up with robotics. Like the Japanese have their factories and
we have their automobile factories because they're necessarily not going
to have the workers to continue the things they've been
doing for the last thirty years because the fullhardy strategic
decisions that they made fifty years ago, and so that's
coming back to bite them on the backside, along with
the ecological disaster that they've created with the mining and

(09:29):
the strip mining and the polluting of the rivers and
streams and all the damage they've done to their environment.
The Chinese have a lot of problems, and almost nobody
wants to pay attention to it. I've been talking about
this for many, many years about why China is not
a threat to the United States and overtaking its to economically.
We've heard about this forever. Well, chry to will overtake
the USA in two thousand or two thousand and ten,

(09:50):
never two thousand ten, two thousand and fifteen, twenty twenty,
twenty twenty five. Well, Chinese still has a smaller economy
in US and they have a population four times our size.
So until China reachs a GDP where they may eighty
thousand dollars per person like America does, I'm not going
to be impressed. They should be having a large e communists.
It's a larger country with one point three billion people.
So I think the bottom line here is that a

(10:10):
lot of people have said a lot of stuff about China,
most of them been wrong for sixty years.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Have you guys seen some of these cities they have
in China with artificial intelligence? It kind of makes you
wonder when you look at these cities and how they're
using data centers or I don't know if you call
them data centers over there, but they have these these
centers that are basically controlling the whole city. They control
how the cars travel through the roadways and stuff like that.
They try reroute cars, they'll law reroute cars for emergency vehicles.

(10:36):
They'll control the electric grids, so businesses and stuff that
have their air conditioning on and the evening time, they'll
actually adjust it for them without you know, their control,
and bringing it back to temperature in the morning as
people would come back to work. Things like this. Have
you seen all this?

Speaker 4 (10:56):
H No, I haven't really been paying much attention to that.
What about you, Todd? No.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I mean I understand that there's ways to control you know,
central you know, heat, heating, air or whatever, lights and
buildings and things like that. I don't know of like
a central location controlling an entire city like that. I mean,
I do know of smart buildings that you have central
location where that's you know, programmed in or someone controls it,
But I don't know of any central location controlling full cities.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Though.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, they got these cities, man, they're they're completely controlled.
They monitor people, They got facial recognition cameras everywhere. They
know when you come in, when you go out, where
you go, they track everything you do. Incredible technologies, but
you'd expect communists, right of the communists, So it's kind
of like they say, oh, you're doing this, you don't
have a choice. We're in the United States. We can
kind of push back li and go, what do you

(11:42):
mean these fifteen minute sities? We're not putting up with this,
And so it's harder for them to transition this year
in the US. But if you look and just go
to YouTube and do a Google or a search on YouTube,
and you'll probably find what I'm talking about, and it's
incredible technologies and stuff, and yeah, you can see some benefits.
So if they can route traffic for an ambulance, you know,
they're saying that survival rate for heart attack victims are

(12:03):
up exponentially because they do have these systems in place
so they can move traffic to allow emergency vehicles vehicles
to more quickly. But at the same time, if you
think about that kind of technology here in the United States,
you're looking at this going, wait a minute, I don't
want to be that controlled with that monitor. We kind
of it's kind of like when we look at the
car on about you guys, but I still look at

(12:24):
the car. I go, that's my freedom right there, you know.
And that was the mindset of the people in the
United States. The ability to travel and have an automobile
was like a passage to freedom, you know.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Absolutely. And as far as controlling traffic and things like that,
I have seen that where cities can control traffic and
be able to have you know, emergency vehicles to be
able to flow through a lot easier, I have seen that.
But as far as you know, one central location controlling
every building in the city and all that, I've never
seen that to that extreme. I have seen you know,

(12:55):
central locations that can control you know, grid patterns, as
far as lighting and traffic things of that. Nature. Uh, yeah,
I have seen that for sure.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
I would say look to China if you want to
see how technologies will evolve over here. I mean they're
building data centers for a reason. Now, how how are
they gonna make money out of these data centers? Because
you can do local AI. They got all these AI apps.
I mean I don't need uh elon musk Rock or
I don't need chat GBT. I mean they're good chatbots,
but what do they How do they benefit me? How
am I going to get a return on my investment

(13:25):
if I pay them the use of their their Uh,
they're artificial intelligence, but they do have other forms of
artificial intelligence that I may put in my computer and
use for you know, if I want to do video waing,
editing and things like that, or write articles and stuff,
maybe you could use you know, chat GPT for that.
But oh no, you don't really see much of an investment,

(13:45):
you know what I mean. I don't see how people
going to use that as things progress and they move
to autonomy within uh, you know, businesses and stuff like that,
and people are losing their jobs. We're being we're being
depleted or obsolete. Now, well we will be you know
if things progress as they say, so, how are you

(14:07):
going to how are you going to utilize that? And
all I see is they build these data centers, and
these data centers are set to make a profit about
twenty thirty. And the only way they're making a profit
right now that I can seek, I can evaluate is
government contracts, and they're doing that right now. I see
a department defense, Department of war.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
No, no, no, no. Data centers are already making a
fortune today. That's why they keep building new ones. That's
why they're building larger ones. They are a goal mine.
That's why, mister wonderful it has gotten involved in data centers.
We're talking about buying multi billion dollar projects in Utah.
Mister wonderful is gonna involve because data centers host all
your e commerce, they host all of your social media,

(14:46):
they host everything, not just defense contracts, not just government contracts.
The money is to be made in the commercial sector,
That's what it's been made. And even more money is
going to be made with a space sector that's growing
like leaps and balands right now. So Amazon has to
have massive data centers just to hit handle all the
stuff that it does, all its transactions all of its history.
I mean, I can go back and look at every
book I've ordered in CD and item I've ordered from

(15:08):
Amazon since nineteen ninety five, two months after they opened
that data stored somewhere. I'm one of one hundreds of
millions of customers for Amazon alone. Then there's Tarja, then
there's There's there's you know, Goldman, Sax, you know Sax,
fifth Av, all these other businesses. And that's just the
United States. You haven't even begun to look at the
rest of the world. They're making tons of money. And

(15:28):
in your industry, John, there's tons of money you made
from cloud services alone, in data centers, just for the
trucking industry, for transportation. Now, this is a gold mine.
This is and people that are not not investing in
this are missing the vote now. And it's unlike the
the the dot com explosion in nineteen ninety nineties, remember
that ooh you excite got get suspending clicks per day.

(15:50):
Clicks don't translate in anything they thought would translated an adred.
Eventually it did, but not in the way they thought
it did. And Google mastered that and everybody tried to
copy them. But the data centers are all already making
money because they're storing data they're charged with. Just think
about this. You know, I'm paying now fifteen dollars a
month for Google Services just so that I don't have
to lead all my photographs and I can use it
for planning and things like that for my business. Well,

(16:12):
that's the service I never used before. That is one
hundred and eighty dollars a year that Google got from
one person. Right now, one of a billion people they
are probably using Google Services. Now, multiply that up by
all the companies are out there and all the AI.
That data has got to be stored somewhere that generates
those images, those videos, which are really intensive for graphics production,
energy consu water consumption, and just as importantly storage on

(16:36):
a data service, it's a big deal. And even bigger
service which is going to come along here is going
to be data recovery, which people aren't talking about. And
the reason that comes to mind for me, John, is
because I have a hard drive where I had a
lot of important data store that they've failed. I'd to
give it to somebody who's trying to restore the data
for me. Now some of it's lost, but he's able
to restore a lot of it, but I couldn't do it.
You know, there was a problem with the controller card

(16:57):
on the device, and he's working through it. But some
of the sectors of damn data. Recovery is going to
be massive, And that's one reason why these placers are
making tons of money already, storage processing, it's already making money.
John's it's not goverment contracts. It's already making a ton
of money.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well, how's that benefit you? How do you get a
return on your investment in this? What I'm trying to
say is how is this going to benefit this place
workers in the future.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Oh, I don't care about this place workers. You're telling
me the best, But I'm talking about making money.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I'm marrying money. If you're paying for the use of
their service. And I can buy an NAS system in
and put it in my home and have basically a
home cloud service with recovery.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Sure you can do that. And what do you mean
with recovery? Who you pay for that?

Speaker 2 (17:36):
So it's got dual recording. So you got two hard drives,
or you might have four hard drives or six hard drives,
And what are you doing is duplicating so you're recording
everything twice. So if one hard drive goes down, you
got it in another hard drive so that you can recover.
So when you put replace that hard drive, it transfers
all that data and information, so you always have two
sets of hard drives storing your data.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
And how much data are you going to use the store.
I've got about sixty bites of data I need to store.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Right now, sixty terabytes yes? Six zero yes? How much
are you paying for this a month to store sixty terabytes?

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Much of that I'm not paying any for because it
sits on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Oh well that's YouTube. Yeah, okay, Oh well.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
The YouTube's got to have a data service. Someone's got
to have a data center store all that.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
But that benefits their business because its benefits my business
from you on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
It also benefits my business because I'm not paying for
that service, and they're getting it through the advertising revenue
out there. And they hire lots of people, lots and
lots of people to manage these centers, to run these centers,
to build data security, to do system checks too. I
mean there's there's a lot of software engineering, a lot
of people involved behind the scenes. So that's you know
that's interesting. I don't know if it's where to go
with this conversation, but somebody in my program last week

(18:44):
said something about, you know how AI is going to
cost all these jobs? Well, yes and no. I mean,
you know, people find ways to adapt and they create
new jobs, whole news sectors. I remember when the Internet
economy came along. There were no jobs in this system.
There were no there were no cloud data stores, no
data centers there were there were no programmers making apps

(19:05):
for people to you know, check baseball scores or to
buy things from Amazon. There was no Amazon. None of
that stuff existed was there was no e commerce. And
this was going to cost all these In fact, it
created tens of millions of jobs, that whole thing. And
if we go back to when people used to ride
by horse and buggy, you know, the buggy whip manufacturers
were upset when the internal combustion engine came along, We're
going to be out of work, we won't be able

(19:27):
to do this. Well, guess what, the internal combustion engine
created a whole new global industry which employed tens of
millions more people than the buggy whip makers ever did,
or the buggy makers or the horse breeders. Far more
people are producing automobiles today, even though there's been a
lot replaced by robotics and AI. The point is that
there will be work, there will be way to find it.
And the next argument always get as well, workforces are
ready for that? Well, workforces are never ready for it.

(19:49):
Nobody who's ready for internal combustion engine except those who
were driven and they adapted and they got jobs, and
then the entrepreneurs found ways to employ people had less
skills in a very productive way. The same thing will
happen here. It's not we're humans, we adapt. Unfortunately, some
people don't adapt fast enough. Look at the Democrats, they
still think that they're communists. I mean they haven't figured
it out yet.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, I don't see. I don't see what he pointing
to it, although I see, Uh, Shawnee here is put
out quite a bit of information about how it's going
to increase demand for h HVAC technicians, electricians and plumbers. Uh,
that may be true. I don't know what to a point.
I mean, once you build so many data centers, howing
a you're gonna build that, it's going to create demand.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Uh so well, air conditioning units break down, particularly for computers,
process yes and plumbers. Because these systems run a massive
amounts of water. These pipes have to installed, repair and maintained, replaced.
New places are built, Places get done, and the new
roles he's talking about managing and auditing AI systems, AI trainers,
compliance specialists say, Look, this is a whole industry and

(20:48):
there's gonna be so many jobs, and these are good
paying jobs and how.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Many how many robots does elam Musk plan I'm putting
out here? Uh, pretty soon when somebody have moved to
a million a year or something like that.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
I have no idea about he's putting out. I'm more
interested in what he's putting in the space.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
You're more interesting. The point is is, uh, I don't know.
Maybe it's not gonna happen overnight, And it sounds like
it's gonna happen overnight the way people like to talk
about it. But uh, they're talking about a huge displacement
of workers in this country and trying to retool workers.
It's like, but people chose certain professions and stuff because
that fit the personal is, they fit their work type.
And when you're telling you're gonna reto them you're gonna
reado them to be Walmart readers? Are you're gonna retool

(21:24):
them to be what exactly and what openings? Because they
keep talking about, well, there's gonna be a depletion. They're
already Amazon's laying off people because they don't need them.
So what are they gonna retool people to do if
they keep depleting jobs? Not everybody's qualified to be an electrician,
bro not everything.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
You got to think about it. Every time that there's
a new revolution, if you will, new technology that comes out,
people complain about, you know, you know the bronze as
is gonna put these people out of work, you know,
the stone the stone age people out of work. But
but it creates more jobs and more opportunity and actually
bronze our life, if you will, And of course the
health expectancy, the life expectancy makes things easier. I think

(22:04):
whatever's next is it's going to create even more jobs
and more opportunity for people that we just don't we
ele realize yet.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I think I like your guys's optimism, but I do
recall a bunch of people living out west there in
certain liberal cities that were living intents while still making
a decent wage. They just canna afford to rent an apartment,
and so as things change, they're always changing people's favor.
And this is what I'm driving at here. We don't
have a guarantee in the future, and you're telling me

(22:30):
that we're just doing it off hope. That's what I'm hearing. Now,
this is going to just happen magically. Somebody's got to
have a plan for the future, and I don't see
anybody's talking about for the future.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
I think it's based off of history. If you look
at it in the current, I can't.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Count on the future based off history, Todd. I got
to see something happening here, and when I see a
lot of talk, and I don't see any plans for
how they're going to structure the future. But I do
care a lot about job displacement. I hear that all
the time.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
But John, and you're just telling you're hearing grand ideas.
We just told you the reality. We just told you.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
That's how I don't see. I don't see a plan.
I don see they lay anything out that says this
is exactly how things are going to go. I don't
see them gearing younger people. I see them young people today,
millennials and Z generation people with living in hopelessness. They're going,
why do wipe oother to try anymore? Because they don't
feel like they got hoped, they don't feel like they

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got a direction to go.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Well, I'm sure that's how a lot of people felt
throughout history. And you know what, those people just be
speedbumps and they don't get thirck together.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Sorry, I'm wondering if anybody out there is listening has
an opinion on this. I wonder if they would like
to call in.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
And here's another thing in the fashion, we have so
much technology that we produce so much, you know, you
look at how many people can actually just freeload off
of the system, and the system is still not broken
down yet. You know, I think things are going okay.
I know we have a lot of issues and problems
with people freeloading. I get that, But at the same time,
the system is still moving forward and we're finding ways

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to make it even better. I mean that that's the
way I'm looking at it.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
What do you mean freeload We're talking about your boat people?

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Well, people are always talking about you know, oh, you know,
they don't have any hope or whatever, and they just
kind of give up and they just gain the system,
if you will. But there's always people that gain the
system that are out there. And we think that people
are going to be put out of work because technology
is going to, you know, create something and now all
of a sudden, all these people are going to be
able to work. I think it's going to create more
opportunities for people.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I'm a bit of a load that. You guys got
to realize that, right, I'm a bit of a load
that here. I don't accept new technologies as well some
people do.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, I get it, but you know, back whenever social
media came on the scene, everybody was like, oh, this
is just a gimmick or whatever. But now think about
the billions of dollars that are made through just social
media alone, you know, the industry that that that's created.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I see algorithms that are beating people down more than anything.
I don't see people making billions of dollars. Everybody wants
to do a clumb show on social media, because I
do see people hopelessly trying to do that, trying to
make that claim the thing.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Everyone wants to have their fifteen minutes of fame, but
there are people that are using it to their advantage
as well. I mean, think about Amazon alone, for crying
out loud, was started by a guy selling some books
out of an apartment, right and now look at me.
He's one of the most the richest guy in the world,
you know, and all the industry that he's created just
about office selling some books online.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
He did well for himself. I gotta admit all the.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
People that jobs and careers as a result of what
he put in place.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
So give given Amazon some credit. One thing they do
is you can I can start a shop or whatever
and go to Amazon and sell my products on an Amazon.
They take their cut and I get my profits. That's
kind of a pretty decent avenue. And that is true.
His his business model can work for people, and a
lot of people benefit off it. So I have to
admit that one. And so the Christmas point with the

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data centers that can be beneficial, that that makes a
valid point because the business model allows somebody an entrance
to get in on the action.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
You think about this, you know, many years ago, decades ago,
you know, if you wanted to write a book or
be an author or something like that.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
I mean you're good.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Good luck, you know. But now with technology like Amazon,
you could write a book and have it published within
a few weeks really and have people buying it.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
You know, just like that.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
If anybody can write a book, is there any value
in the books are put producing? I mean, right, if
I go buy it, you know, if everybody's it's.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
But to somebody, you may write something that they want
to hear, you know, or want to read or whatever.
Maybe it's beneficial to them. And I was talking to
the guy and we've had him on here on the
show Anthony Cannops. He said, the average author sells about
two hundred and fifty books, and that's it. He said,
Even Stephen King sells an average two hundred fifty books.
Now Stephen King may sell two or three million books,

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but you know it averages out because the everyday person
who writes that book, who sells five copies is at
a yard sale or or at a flea market. You know,
it averages out. So but anybody has something that they
want to talk about whatever, it may be beneficial to somebody,
there's three or four people that you sell that book to.
I mean, I don't know if you if you feel
you have something to say, why not?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Right?

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Put it out there?

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Was this?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Was this a segue to your book, Todd, because we
haven't heard an update on that in a while.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well, well, I've sold an above average amount at this point,
I've sold more than two fifty, which is good. Yeah, yeah,
and above average author.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Above average A there you go, average author raking it in. Therefore, right,
what what do you what are you donating that for?
I know it's for suicide veterans.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
So it's it's to be the one commission to be
the one to uh to in veteran suicide or in
suicide and all demographics. We've got a commission here in
Tennessee to in the American Legion UH that's focusing on
ending veteran suicide, ending suicide amongst young children, young adults,
things of that nature. So it's going to go to
support that. That's what I'm I'm selling it for.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
If someone loses their job, they have a beautiful opportunity
to make a change, start a business, start growing. How
do you start a business if you don't have income.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Well, today it's very easy. You can go online. Well
even that a social Security number and start an online
merchandise store. If you just have an ID and start
making money, I can show you South Africans. They're doing
that right now, coming over as refugees and waiting for
jobs and have already started a business and making money.
It just takes a little ingenuity and thought. That's it.
There's lots of ways to make money, lots of ways

(28:32):
to start a business. You know, you can borrow money,
you can.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, there are probably people out there listening Chris that
would like some pointers because they would like to do this.
Some people are struggling on social media, So what would
you tell them on social media how they could grow
their page or their following.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Well, I'm probably the wrong person, asked, because YouTube's got
me in the shadow banning bend.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
But no, I think what you want to say in
social media, folks, we got that pert figured out under.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
If the power goes out, you know why, I.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I heard Chris saying he might be out of here soon.
He's gotten tired of this conversation.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
No, no, no, I just heard a passive thunder clap outside.
There's both start raining at seven thirty. It's almost right
on the money here. No, Look, there's lots of ways
to make money out there. You can stand on a
street corner and beg. You know. When I came back
from Germany in nineteen ninety four, my friend who got
out of the army lived in this lovely little efficiency
place down there in Fell's Point, which was going through gentrification.

(29:28):
His neighbor had apartment twice the size is in the
same building and had a nice like BMW outside in
the parking area and had a big screen TV and everything.
This is nineteen ninety four, and so they were their neighbors.
And then one day my friend had been jogging down
in the Inner Harbor and he slowed down. He's walking
back to cool down and he sees his neighbor. He

(29:51):
didn't say anything. So when he gets back, he says
he saw him. They had a beer that night, because
they usually drink a beer every couple nights. He said,
did I see when inner herbertake goes? Yeah, that was me,
he said, Were you begging? Yeah? I make about eighty
one hundred thousand dollars a year tax free. Wow off
a guilty tourist. He little song and dance, you know,

(30:12):
putting his cap out there begging for money makes eighty
two hundred thousand dollars a year, sets his own hours, taxing,
no SOB security, no medicare, no income tax, and he
was living life large. Yep.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
So I gotta tell you, Chris, I don't call that begging.
I call that fraud. That's kind of that's if you're
telling people you're done on your luck and you're out
there begging and you're making eighty hundred.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
He didn't tell me what was down his luck. He
just did a little song and dance out there and
then put his cap out and was getting money.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Oh okay, so he was doing street entertainment.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yeah, if you want to call it that, I call
it begging.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well, there are people that actually do street entertained the
street entertainers. They'll throw like say they open up the
guitar case called their guitar the case.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
People somebody just with their hand out or a bucket saying,
you know, give me money. That's not providing any service.
I mean, if you play a little music and I'm
entertained by it, I should throw something in your bucket,
I think. But if you're just sitting out there with
a sign or just want me to give you something
for free, I'm sorry. I owe you nothing.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Well, I was pretty entertained by Joe Biden stumbling up
and downstairs for Air Force one. I'd pay for that entertainment.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, you weren't throwing no change out there, but I
saw I saw images of Donald Trump throwing golf balls
out there, pinging them in the head.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
I don't, yeah, but one of my viewers just said,
create digital products to sell thrift and sell clothing, trash
can cleaning, house cleaning, farm sitting, helping depart natural resource
collect pine cones and planetrees. All these are things people
do to make money. You know, my brother started a
lawn keeping business back in their late eighties before anyone
else was really doing this down in Nashville, and he's

(31:49):
been very successful. We wound up, you know, just with
a mower in himself, going out mowing people's lawns and
then pruning their bushes, buying more tools. His wife was working,
so you know, it was like that had to survival
of his income, and he built into a major business
that lots of people working for him. And know they
weren't all Mexicans. But the point is it just takes gumption,
It takes This is America. Anybody can make anything. Elon

(32:11):
Musk didn't come here with a billion dollars. He'll be
a trillionaire soon. It just takes ingenuity. And look, we'll
tell you.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Ms is dead broke and he's gonna die dead broke.
But because he puts everything in trust and lives off debt, he's.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Got forty four billion dollars in cash. What do you
mean he's in debt.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
You're saying on paper he'll have nothing, but his trust
will have billions and billions.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
He's gonna He paid twelve billion dollars in income tax
in cash four years ago, and he's got forty billion
more from that sale. Is that all? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (32:48):
I members of Members of Congress said he doesn't pay
anything in taxes. He paid some taxes than anybody in
the country.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
But in the history of the country, in one year,
he paid more income tax than anyone ever paid in
the entire history of the country. Elon Musk and then Pocahontas.
Focahontas had the audacity to say he wasn't paying a share. Listen,
you know it's uh, is that all he has? You
remind me that that that that uh? Jeff Foxworthy comedies
like you know or maybe it was Bill Ingvall. I
walked into the seven to eleven. He said, U uh,

(33:16):
get one of the latter tickets. How much is that?
Oh it's just two hundred million, two hundred million, all hell,
just give me a slurpy. It's not even worth it.
Just give me a slurpy. What is that?

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Two hundred million?

Speaker 4 (33:30):
A little too rich for you, boy, I gotta put
a dent in your outboard motor.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
You're your two dollars ticket for two hundred million dollars.
This is a pretty good trade off, providing you with yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know. You guys make good points. I mean, yeah,
a little bit of ingenuity, and that's what we used
to rely on in the old days. This country was
founded on ingenuity. I mean, come on, man, people invented
all sorts of great things. The things they used to
event one hundred hundred and fifty years ago that you
don't even know exists. They used to invent some incredible

(33:56):
things in this country and bring him to market. Something sold,
Some things didn't. Some things didn't take off. Some things
couldn't fit the market. They were just too pricey. But
Americans were always ingenuitive, inventive, and always put stuff out
there and try to promote themselves and grow themselves. And
that's your point.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, look, the thing is is
that people need to quit being lazy. I'm sorry, some
people are just lazy. They don't try. They just don't try.
There's I mean. Look, when I was in college the
second time, I lived down near the Hocking River, and
I would walk up the street and I have passed

(34:35):
one of the streets where frattorney houses were, and three
or four nights a week, the front yard to be
littered with aluminum cans because they're out there drinking beer
all night long. What did I do. I carried a
little bag must stick plastic bags from the bookstore. I'd
crushed cans, fill it up, and every day I'd have
a few pounds of aluminum. I made over one thousand
dollars recycling illuminum just walking to and from class as

(34:58):
a college student. In one year. I could have started
a business just picking up all that luminum. And I
also discovered that like the bars uptown didn't even recycle
their iluminum. I could have agreed to take all their
alumin off their hands and just had like a trailer
pulling behind my car, and I could have made thousands
of dollars per year, thousands of dollars, but you know,
it's the business idea. But I was going back in
the army, so I'm not sitting around starting aluminum recycling business.

(35:20):
But it was just sitting there waiting. There were like
fifteen bars uptown and they just threw all their aluminum way.
I could have just gone through their trash cans and
picked the stuff out all had Something's not to cut
my hands in the glass because they had bottles too.
But the point here is that it just takes a
little bit of thought and ingenuity. You know, it's amazing
what people can come up when they put their mind
to it. But a lot of people are unwilling to

(35:41):
take risks. They expect people to hand things to them.
They expect the given jobs, their entitled job. You're not
entitled anything. You're not telling anything. The other thing. You're
entitled to your natural rights, your God given rights, the
right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, freedom, assembly, freedom, worship,
freedom speech. That's what you're entitled to. Those are God
given rights. The rest of that stuff, pul of these
decide what you get and don't get comes the rain.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
I had seen a thing on YouTube recently where some
people are just taking basic plastic bottles, two liter bottles,
water bottles, things like that, you know, your little thin
plastic bottles and melting them down and making plastic bricks
out of them and building some pretty nice structures out
of those things. And come to find out there was
I think in England, there was a company that was
doing that and selling the boat. Was that your rain?

Speaker 4 (36:25):
That's the rain I told you was coming. You thought
I was messing around.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
What it's a hitting your window? Was your roof that thin?

Speaker 4 (36:30):
It's no, it's flying sideways. It's a sideway wind. It's
hitting the window. It's a big I've got a big window,
a studio window here.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Last time I checked. When rain gets sideways, usually you
got a strong wind behind it, known as a tornado.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Well, yeah, that's a possibility, but not likely here in Pennsylvania. No.
I think we've had one tornado warning in a decade here.
So that is the stranges not tornado country.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
That is the strangest feeling in the world. When you
can't see anything out your wind sil windshield, the rain's
gone sideways, the cattle running the opposite direction you're traveling.
You start hearing that wishing sound and you don't know
where it's coming from. You feel like you're in trouble.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Well, listen, I was just in Florida, and of course Florida,
you know, And one moment it's sunshine. The next moment
you're on the highway and you're in a freakingferential downpoort.
That happened to me in my way when I left Tampa.
Instead of fighting all the construction of the traffic going
between Orlando and Tampa, I went north, which is about
twenty miles longer, and went across county roads to get
back to Orlando. After it off the highway, I hit

(37:26):
a rainstorm in which visibility went from thirty miles to
thirty feet in about thirty seconds or less. And when
those rain drops came down, they were in size of hail.
It was rain, but it was the size of hail,
and it just pelted the vehicle, and you know, people
still went eighty miles an hour. I couldn't see anybody.
I'm like, what do you people doing? I slowed down
and then I got out of it and I got

(37:47):
on the other side towards Orlando, and I headed back
down to hit another one just swallows up out of nowhere. Now,
that rain can be quite vicious at times. That's a
little bit disturbing.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I grew up in the Sunshine State and watched rain
on the other side of the road side streets, and it's.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Over there rain and like like you like, and the
sun is shining on your side of.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
The yes, or you watch it as a wall coming
to you, and when it hits you, you're drenched.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
And it hits it's hard too. These I mean that
rain comes down hard in that part of the country,
and it's and in large rain drops. I mean, these
aren't small. I guess the humidity must hold the drops
together or something like that as they come down because
the air is so thick, I guess. But but yeah, No,
it was of course absolutely brutal ninety five degrees in
early May in Florida, Central Florida. I flew back, it
was fifty seven degrees. I was in my shorts, walked

(38:32):
out and I was in heaven.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, that humidity really gets you. It's not the heat
so much as the humidity. Heat's bad enough, but the
humidity really just nails you.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Right, yeah, which I never understood why people want to
go to Disney World in the summertime. What a crazy idea?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Only because their kid drops. Shipping is a good one,
I think. Oh oh wow, Wow, we're over here praying
for Chris. Everybody listening. You gotta pray for Chris White
so he survives the storm happening in central Pennsylvan.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Well, I do have surge suppressed, right. I just worried
my power go out because it tends to because it's
a lot of construction around here, unfortunately, and sometimes they
leave the lines open instead of bearing them when they
should have buried when they build new houses and anyway,
sometimes lose power. So if I disappear, it's not because
I'm just I'm not to disapprove of the conversation. It's
because of the storm.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
He'll be back on the cell phone trying to capture
a cell tower.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Oh, I got that. I got a cell signal. That's
not a problem. I got three bars right now.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Three little bars. He might actually make it back in yeah. Oh,
though this re stream can be hard on a cell phone.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
No, my phone has done hundreds, if not thousands of
streams on it. This Samsung S twenty one Ultra. I've
had this for over five years. It's been fantastic. Yeah,
it's but it's it's starting to show its age.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
So yeah, I had one of those eight and uh,
the only reason I got rid of is because the
battery just would not charge. Stream went black and that
was it.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
I was done. Well, you know, when I was in
England for the Women's Rugby World Cup, I never dropped
the phone, but I went up dropping two phones when
I was there, this in my backup and cracking the
screen and the screen here was barely a crack. It
just put one of little line across the screen. But
then the bottom would flicker in and out and different colors,
and so I went and had them replace the screen
and they had one screen in stock. And the good

(40:15):
news is when you get a screen, it came with
the battery. So I got a brand new battery. So
basically renewed my phone last last September, last October, so
it's almost like a brand new phone. But it is
starting to show its age.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
So well, I should have done with my last phone.
Just got a battery, but I ended up training it
in upgraded.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
You know, it keeps the Chinese employed, and I know
you're really worried about manual labs.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, you know, we we don't want the Chinese to suffer.
So we got we got a few minutes before the
top of the hour break. What do you guys think
about this, uh reflecting pool down here, the Lincoln Memorial
reflecting pool. Trump wants to make it like yeah, flag blue.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, well, Todd looks more like swimming pool blue, I think, yeah,
versus flag blue.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Well, they got the artist's rendition right, it's not finished yet,
so right, the idea.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Of the reflecting pool was with the whole green. I
guess motif it reflects a lot better than if it
was clear or blue, right, I think.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
That's I think they hit the fourth of July, is
what he's trying.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Oh sure, sure, it'll look good for a little while,
I think, but it's gonna eventually unless you keep it clean,
you know, chlorinate or whatever the case may be, it's
all just going to grow back over anyway.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, it'll get cold, it will disappear.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
So you're not just saying it needs to be maintained.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah, now, no, mindy, it did need to be cleaned
out and leaks needed to be plugged. I guess there
was a lot of leaks in there and so on
and so forth. I get it it needed that, but
I don't know if it needed the blue paint. It'll
probably look good for a while, but it's going to
grow back over anyway.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
But here's the deal, the medi you're losing their mind
on this over.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
Donald Trump gave a non compete contract to his cronies
for two billion dollars to redo the reflecting poll when
Obama is present. He spent thirty four million dollars and
they shut it down for a year with no water
in it. And then when they open it, I saw
the interview with half a dozen black people from DZ.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Going, oh what they do? It looks just as bad
as before. Boys smelled. So he spent thirty four million
dollars shutting it down for a year. Trump is paying
a company two million dollars on noncompete because the compelling
reason needs to be done before the fourth of July.
It'll be done before the fourth July and a couple
of weeks flat for two million dollars, one sixteenth the cost.
And that's also fifteen years later. Obama did that. You know,

(42:34):
when the dollar's worth a lot more. Trump's doing it
an inflation adjusted right, which means it's probably about one
point four million dollars compared to the thirty some million
dollars of bomb painting, and the media losing their minds
the perspective history matters, folks, Gosh, bless it so right.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
There's a company, some historical society, I guess it has
a lawsuit now trying to get him to stop what
he's doing.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Oh, they're trying to stop the renovation of the White House.
They can go stuff it up their socks. They're just
a white cry babies. You know, first off, this stuff
is none of their business. There's what historical thing are
they doing fixing something that's broken the White House? You know,
when Obama hosted state dinners, they had to have tents
outside in the humidity of DC, which was a swamp
by the way that they took it. They had to

(43:16):
have tents outside, and international leaders had to dine outside
within rifle range of people on you know, that could
pick them off at a distance. It's unbelievable that these
people are complaining about a ballroom. Everyone else has a ballroom.
Why can't the United States have a freaking ballroom. You know,
I'll tell you what. Why does Trump build a castle
for the president? I want a palace. I want the

(43:36):
Trump Palace, you know, just tear the White House down,
build a Trump palace. I ought to get a riled up.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
You remember when Trump first went in office, he says, oh,
I don't have to stay at the White House. I
got a I gotta better stay over here at my
own place. Yeah, he was like, I can stay at
my own place. There's more room. And that's not to
knock the White House. The White House is a beautiful,
beautiful a.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
White House is fine. But let's build a Trump palace
for the president. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
But anyway, the East Wing was only built in the
nineteen forties, by the way, so they're making it.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Say from eighteen hundred or something like that.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
No, it wasn't like an original structure from the from
whenever Jefferson.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
No, none of the east wing west neither the east
wing or the west wing. Original structure was just the
main building. Yeah, not at all, and certainly the thirty
seven floors beneath it were never there before.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
The Piak needed to be upgraded. Anyway, Let me tell you.
I mean it was it was a It was basically
a bomb shelter. It's not for nukes or anything like that.
It's just for basically, uh, superficial bombs that may be
landing on some of the buildings a direct hit. The
old PIOC would probably have been destroyed.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
For crying out loud, yeah bring this ball needed you
bring that up. But the most overlooked part of this
discussion is a Secret Services said, this is going to
be beneficial because I think they're planning on putting a
new command center or something in there, and how they
set it up, it's.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Going to be, well, that's a military command center. Yeah,
so that would your office. Yeah, it's not not not
Secret Service.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
But it's going to be beneficial to have this. It's
going to be an improvement what they're going to do
with it. So it's not just about a ballroom, but
there's also more going on behind this that nobody's talking about.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Plus the level of security that you can you can
put in place and and and push people through there,
uh as far as having them wait out on the sidewalk,
you know, trying to get in there. Like you said,
one hundred degree heat hundred percent humidity. These people will
be able to set in an air conditional security line
and security queue and go through there and arrive fresh
ready to do business for their country or whoever they

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represent at a state dinner.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Yeah yeah, that's sense.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah yeah yeah, because people think state these state dinners
are just basically people places to show off. But what
people don't understand is the amount of business that's going
off at each of these tables. People are seated and
the Colonel's probably participated in very similar dinners overseas. People
are placed for strategic strategic reasons of the what if
they bring to the table and what they can discuss

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at their levels. So business for the nation is actually
being discussed at these state dinners.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Of course, I mean, this is the nation's interesting. This,
this whole thing is ridiculous. Just a bunch of twits
who would do anything to oppose Donald Trump at least
have no merit. They should be ignored, just completely ignored.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, it's not just for social social gathering for people
to swill martinis or wine or whatever for crowd out loud.
There is actual business being discussed at every table at
a state dinner, for sure.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Wait, a minute, we're not putting in the stadium and
have Kid Rock played there?

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Right?

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (46:35):
You have sea fights and all that, right.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, But we're supposed to have a US UFC fight
somewhere in DC this year and celebration of the of
the Independence. Why not?

Speaker 4 (46:47):
So no, we are.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
I don't remember who's supposed to be there or what
it was. All intel so far, but from my understanding,
Trump's supposed to be scheduling a UFC fight. He's supposed
to be scheduling a race.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (46:59):
A A formula race in Indy Car?

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah, yeah, Indy Car.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah. And uh so they're gonna be using streets in
DC like they do in Europe and stuff, I guess,
And I don't think they do that in the US
as a rule.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
We do, we do Indy Car. We did it in
Nashville a few years in a row here. So yeah,
they do street racing.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Oh, pretty cool. I've never seen it, you know. I
grew up in a brown Daytona beach area. You know,
I don't NASCAR, but you know, as in a from
my house, I can hear the cars running all day
and it's going around the track. Been down there a
couple of times, you know, down the infield and stuff
and right up on the action. That was pretty fun being.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
In there, for sure. Yeah, I think it'll be interesting.
You know, you have a street race in DC. You
could have any number of things, concerts, UFC, fights. I
mean there's stadiums, you know, plenty of stadiums, plenty of
places that have indoor, outdoor, whatever the case may be.
Anything you really want to do, concerts, I mean these
he has it all for crand Out Loud, and it

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is a destination now not just to see a few
monuments anymore. There's a lot of stuff that go actually
do as far as entertainment, sports, things of that nature,
you know, not just there for government policy walks anymore.
DC is a destination for people for very backgrounds.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
They can put it. Not the gun right there at
the National Mall, yeah, right, for sure. So that would
be interesting halfway between the Capitol Building and the Washington Memorial.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Right and celebrate. You know, whenever this first the country
was founded, you may have some pugilists, some fist fights,
maybe some organized fist fighting that turned into boxing, right,
and then now you have mixed martial arts for crand
Out loud. How far does the country come from people
dueling with pistols and powdered wigs to beating each other
up in an octagon. Hey, you're not killing each other anymore, though,

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right maybe is it more humane or less humane?

Speaker 4 (48:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
You know, I think they got rid of duels a
long before. But yeah, Lincoln man, them guys when they
did debates, they did debates with their fists. They were
playing around. Man, They get out there and swatt at
each other and take some shots.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Andrew Jackson for crying out loud getting in duels with people,
not none of mind fight fist fights, actual dueling with people,
And it's like, how far have we come? We don't
have presidents at duel anymore.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
They do on Twitter or something that's it was a
different time.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, Well, this country was founded on men with backbone,
and I'm not sure if it's being carried on with
men with backbone and some parties, but uh.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah, but we like to say, oh we're somewhere, we're
more violent nowadays. And it's like, I don't know, we
had our actual leaders were blowing each other way.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Teddy Roosevelt got shot in the chest bro. The man
got shot in the chest doing a speech and it
looks down and goes, oh, let me finish my speech
before I go see medical. You'll get medical treatment.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Right, shot my speech?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah man? So I mean you know, we've had some
strong men in this country. Yeah grit yep. Absolutely, and
now they're all actors.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Oh boy, yeah, you're.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Hard, mister Chisholm. It's a hard country kid, John Wayne.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, I was gonna say, John Wayne. Uh, the little
kid trying to didn't know how to swim. You don't
know how to swim. He picks him up by his
bridges and throws him into the lake. Yeah, you don't know.
Christ versus maybe we should still have dueling and fencing.
And she's not talking about putting up barriers and stuff
between yards.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Oh my goodness. Anyway, Yeah, no, it's it's a different world,
you know. Andrew Jackson was a nasty, nasty piece of work,
violated the trust of the American people. Remember as a
hero Roe Hickory, But he's the guy that defraud of
the Seminole, the Choctawl and the Cherokee Indians, stole their land.
Make him and his friends wealthy. Okay, Andrew. I know

(51:03):
you're you're you're dialing up from down below where it's
warm anyway.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah, and the War of eighteen twelve when he went
to New Orleans even after the war was already over,
and he gets credit for beating the British there, and
it's like, if the war was over, my friend, you
didn't have to fight that one.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
True. Yeah, but he couldn't have done that. It was
a different time.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
So no, I know, I get I get that. Yeah,
But I mean, even if he had gotten the word,
he probably would have still followed him anyway, because.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
That's who he was. Yep. So, yep. Anyway, different times,
different times.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
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(52:04):
ladies and gentlemen. If you're just now tuning in here
to WS and Man, you're listening to the common sense
Conservatives live and coming at you. So, uh, what else
we got going on here?

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I see that uh Trump is still trying to appeal
his case to Jene Carroll. You guys see that I.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Did, and so he has the appeals out, he doesn't
have to pay her.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yep, yep. So he's waiting on Scotus to make a ruling.
I guess, so he doesn't have to pay her, but
yet if he fails, then he's got to pay with
interest apparently. But he's still writing that presidential immunity. How
do you think that applies? I mean, I haven't seen
any claims in how he Trump thinks it applies. But
do you guys have any idea what he may have

(52:46):
said about that?

Speaker 3 (52:50):
What was that question?

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Again? John?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Presidential munity? Trump is still I can't believe he can't
pronounce his name correctly. Trump is still claiming that he
has presidential immunity in this case. And I'm trying to think,
how's he how'd you figure presidential community applies in this case?
And why would he? Why is he leaning on that?

Speaker 4 (53:09):
I don't know. I haven't been following this case. I
thought it was already decided and he'd already paid her,
So it was surprising to me. So I really don't
know what's going on with this one. It's not when
I paid my attention. I did see a headline earlier
that this was happening, but beyond that, I don't really know.
It's not when I fall in.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Yeah, it's crazy andess, but we'll see what Scotis has
to say about it. I guess here whenever they get
around to making a ruling on it or hearing the
the arguments. But yeah, kind of interesting stuff. Uh, Rubio
is still being accused of being an alcoholic. That's kind
of getting out of control, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Is it Rubio or a cash Battel both?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I'm sorry, you're right, Cash Patel. Cash Pateel was defending
himself recently.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Yeah. No, apparently they produced a blood alcohol test or
something like that. I didn't. That's crazy. Chris van Holland
published alcohol tests after Patel dispute. Democrats obsess yea, I
think members Presdent Trump's cabinet, including Patetel, have alcohol issues.
These claims are bolths of my reports from out less
like The Atlantic, which claimed the director has ballots of access.

(54:10):
Drink can sometimes be difficult to reach. Ben Holland broached
the topics presenting the article during to send Appropriation subcommittee.
So Yeshu the FBI director. Cash told me he'd take
the alcohol users disordered deification tests if I did. Well,
here's mine, that's what it is. Okay, So he took his.
So I don't know what's going on. These people are

(54:31):
really obsessed with with Trump. They just they just don't
let go and they're going after it. By the problem
is they can't get Trump because he's a teetoller. He
won't drink alcohol, so they can they can lie. That'd
be like somebody trying to say that, oh, yeah, they
saw me drinking. I know that's a lie because I
don't drink in public and I don't really drink, to
be honest. So anyone you know, says that note, you
know they're lying. So it's it's it's some things that

(54:54):
they just they can't get Trump. For that magic Trump
had one drought alcohol, they'd be talking about him all
day long as if he was a drunk.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Well they already, yeah, they're trying to accuse them of
not having his faculties and falling asleep at meetings and
dumb stuff like that. But yet I've yet to see
any proof that he's actually I've seen some pictures that
people have, but I doubt that anybody's at a Trump
meeting snapping pictures going, look he's falling asleep. I'm going
to report this to people. I think it just made
up bullshteign.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Think you're correct, Yeah, look, they're they're just this is
what democrats do. They just tract from the business of
government because they don't know how to govern. They don't
care to govern. They're just nasty, nasty people, that's all.
They spend their time with. Chris van Hollands, another little weasel.
He and that other clown, Jeremy Raskins, two weasels in Maryland.
They were preceded by Ben Carter and who wasn't quite
as big a weasel, but he was also weasel. The

(55:39):
Democrats in Maryland are serial pathological liars. They've always been that,
and they've gotten away with it for years. And unfortunately,
because of the government jobs and all the contractors and
all the defense companies and all the tech companies that
are cloistered around DC, many of them in Maryland, Montgomery County,
Prince George's County, and other places, the incomes of those

(56:00):
were quite high, so lots of really wealthy, stupid people
live in those areas. And they vote Democrat, and the
Democrats run Maryland like a gangster state. And they have
the brief period when Bob Burlick was governor. Now we
had the last Republican governor there, but he wasn't really
republican as Republican in Democrat clothing. But the previous one,
the last real conservative was was Bob Urlick. And the

(56:20):
guy had a sixty three percent approval rate amongst likely
Maryland voters and lost the election to O'Malley. Why because
of Malley was a Democrat. That's the reason sixty three
percent of voters approved of the job barber who was
doing his governor, and then he still lost the election.
That's whatever. You can't say a place like Maryland. It's
it's that's why I'm no longer living in Maryland.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
So yep, absolutely, yeah, So I guess now.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
The Senate wants to I don't know if this obviously
is in a bill, must be a what do you
call it? With the when they make rules for themselves
and where a Senate is no longer going to take
a pay when this shut government shuts down.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
I'm not sure. I haven't seen that one either. You're
catching with stuff I haven't caught.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
The Senate on Wednesday unanimously voted to advance Senator John
Carey's resolution to suspend centers paid during a government shutdown.
The resolution would not apply to would only apply to Senators,
and does not require approval from the House of Representatives
or the President or presidents from signature. So the Senate
voted ninety nine to zero on the motion to end

(57:26):
debate on proceeding to the Resolute, indicating that it will
have enough support to pass the upper chamber. So I
guess they want to just you know, how they make
rules for themselves and stuff like that, and they want
to make it so that they can't get paid if
they're not taking care of business.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Wow, Well, it's interesting John Carey is still in the Senate.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
John Carrey, did I really?

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
No, John Kennedy, John Kennedy carry?

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Yeah, I heard carry.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I don't even I was even thinking of John Carrey.
I don't know why I would say John Carrey.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
I saw the K I guess, and maybe out of
have it, But I thought you said John Carrey. I'm like,
is he still around.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Foster somewhere but not there? Yeah? Holy crap, I can't believe,
I said, John Carey, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
That's I don't want to say about that so.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Far, this thing from my mind I swear true.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Well, well, the Chinese are my mind. I mentioned that
that Mary who got convicted, who pled guilty earlier. Now
Jerry has found that Chinese American ran Beijing's undercover police
station New York guilty of being a foreign agent. Also
found guilty of instructing justice by deleting we chat messages
documenting his direct communications with the contact the Chinese Ministry
of Public Security. Lu xuang Wang, sixty four, communityating and

(58:42):
former president of America Chang Lie Association, was convicted on
May thirteenth in Brooklyn Federal Court. That would be today.
He ran the Chinese Overseas Police Service Center out of
the offices of his hometown association East Broadway in New
York's Chinatown. Yeah, he's being held countable. This is what's going.
The Chinese have been putting their police stations to oppress
Chinese nationals and their families in foreign countries, including the
United States in New York and DC Chicago, and it

(59:04):
is time to root these sobs out and put them
in prison where they belong and then deport them back
to China. It's time we start cracking down in Chinese Americans.
Oh oh, that's gonna upset a few people. Oh you
sally A z Enfo. Nope, I'm talking about those breaking
the law. If you're not breaking law, you have nothing
worry about, right, Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Get a mask.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Chris, do you not eat a Chinese restaurants?

Speaker 4 (59:26):
No? I do not eat Chinese wrestles. First off, it's
not Chinese food. It's American Chinese food, which is not
even close the same. Chinese food is bland, and the
American Chinese food is fattening.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
It's kind of like American Mexican food, right, It's got
all them spices and stuff in it.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
That's that's that's true American Mexicans. A little bit different,
but it's a lot closer to true Mexican food than
American Chinese food. So yeah, look, I mean, you know,
American pizza is the best pizza in the world. That
that flat cardboard crap that they serve the rest of
the world and pretend it's Italian is a joke, including
in Italy. And you know, when I went to Italy,
all these people like, oh, you're gonna love it here.
The gelato is amazing. I'm like, gelat, it's Sherburt Man,

(01:00:05):
what are you talking about, It's just Shrbert. Get over yourself. Yeah,
the best Italian ice cream in the world isn't served
in Italy. It's served in Germany by Italians. You make
it for German taste. It's Italian ice that's the best stuff.
It's so good. Yeah, it's Isn't it ironic that the
best Italian ice cream in the world is found in
Germany because it's served up there by Italians. But the
stuff in Italy, oh, gelato, Man, it's just Shrbert. They're

(01:00:27):
like raving about all the ice cream here is so good.
I mean people went on like that for a week.
I'm like, finally, let's go get ice cream and make it.
I'm like, that's not ice cream, that's that's Sherbert Man gelato.
But this is the way you say gilotto, Yeah, gelato, jiggilow,
one of those two things something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
It sounds good until you start eating it, right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
No, it's fine, it's it's very good. It's actually quite tasty.
But it's not ice cream. It's it's Sherbet. Man, it's
it's ice milk or ice water whatever, it's not. It's
not ice cream. Ice Cream is made from milk. It's
made from mil milk with sugar. Yes, that's that's what
ice cream is. Yeah, it's not this nonsense. Made from
ice water.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Yeah, I remember when he was a kid. Man, you
got your handed a bull of suburn. You're like, oh man,
I got ripped off. This is an ice cream.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Yeah, it's a ice cream.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
Yeah. I didn't mind it. I mean anything was good
to take any sweets as a kid. But it's not
ice cream. Man, It's just not ice cream, simple as that. Anyway.
So I'm gonna take my damn hat off now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
It says that for those that can't see this is
my damn hat. Dam, I can't see what's written under
it's kind of small print. Hoover dam. Yeah, that's right,
he was out there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
I replaced it with another cap. Here. There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Back in the army. Be all you can be.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
I gotta tell you a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
I gotta hear that commercial earlier before we started the
show about the show about the apple pie ad. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you remember that commercial in nineteen seventy six, hot Dogs, baseball,
apple pie and Chevrolet.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Baseball?

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Are you born in nineteen seventy six?

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Got to forget eighty seventy eight, But that's all right, Yeah,
So tell me what's the fascination with apple pie?

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Though? I mean, I don't know. I'll take cherry pie
any day of the week over apple pie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Even guys are American liberal Now.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Whoever sold us that apple pie was an American thing?
I don't know. It's it's it's clunky, it's chunky, it's
it's not my todd. I'm with you cherry pie any day,
even pump jack.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Yeah, absolutely, cherry pie, cream pie, oh man.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Even lemon meringue pie over apple pie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
I love apple pie. It's so good, apple pie and
pumpkin pie.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Well. I like baseball, but not that much anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Not that much. I never got into baseball that much.
Football used to love.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
How can you love apple pie by not lay baseball?

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
That doesn't make any sense baseball. I mean, as I
got to be older, maybe I kind of was enjoying
a little bit of baseball, but I'm not that into it.
It's just too slow a moving game. I think for me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
Well, they ruined it for me. With the strike in
nineteen ninety four. I looked so look forward to coming
back to the state theft, being overseas and fighting in
a war, and then spending years over there after the fact,
then coming back. I had seats box seats for Candy
Yards for Kansas City Series, and they went on strike
like the week before I came back, And I never
forget baseball for that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Hey give up on baseball. So you miss Kurt Shilling
winning the World Series?

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Well, Kurt Shilling is the trees and a s ab.
He should have been with the Oriols of winning the
World Series. Case closed.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Oh, I see, so there's some there's some rivalry going on.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Greedy trees in his brick. He went to the Yankees,
of all things, to go to the Yankees. Give me
a break. Oh jeez, no thanks, Sorry, some things are
not allowed. You cannot leave the Ools to play for
the Red Sox or the Yankees. That's just an unforgivable sin.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
So you're being asked, Chris, what's your what's your view
or opinion on the hant of virus? What is this
handed virus crap? And why am I hearing it came
from COVID?

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
It did not come from covid hunt of virus has
been around for hauntavirus. Like most viruses, including the Wuhan virus,
which is what the proper colloquial name for it is
not the covid it's Wuhan Viruses are typically named by
epidemiologists after the place they're first noticed in significance, So,
for instance, the hauntavirus named after a place in South
Korea in Hunta or where it was first observed, that's

(01:04:19):
not where it came from. Legionnaires is named Legionnaires because
it was discovered at a American legion convention. Ebola is
named after a river in the Congo where it was
first observed Marburg, even though it's an African virus that
came a philovirus that came from the same region as
the Congo most likely or Bruni. It was first discovered

(01:04:41):
and noticed in Marburg, German and medieval German town. And unfortunately,
this philovirus, which has no relationship whatsoever to Germany, is
named after a German medieval town because there was a
medical convention there and a Belgian doctor went there and
spread it around, so that was where it was first noticed.
So hantavirus is a deadly hemorrhagic fever. In other words,
you bleed. It was first observed in serious numbers in Korea,

(01:05:05):
but ironically the largest number of instances annually occurs in Finland,
followed closely by Germany, which most people don't even know about.
The United States has typically fifteen to fifty cases of
haunt of virus per year. However, when there's significant rainfall
in the Old Southwest, in Arizona, in Mexico and parts
of southern California, the rodent population multiplies because of all

(01:05:25):
the extra stuff to eat, and so it spreads like wildfire,
because that's the reservoirs in rodents and hamsters's and mice
and rats and things like that. So it isn't mice
sures in rats anyway. So when you come in contact
with rodent feces or urine, you get the virus potentially. Now,
none of the variants of the virus until recently we're

(01:05:47):
ever known to be transmittable human human contact. In other words,
once you got it, you couldn't give it to somebody else. However,
the one strain that you can do that had an
outbreak in Argentina recently, and that is the Andy strain
of the hunt of virus. The Andy strain of hung
To virus was picked up by two passengers who apparently
went to a dump in Argentina to take photographs. I
do what are are a rubbish tourist. I don't know

(01:06:08):
what's going on. Then they got back on the ship,
an elderly couple, and they died from it, and they
transmitted to the doctor. I think he may have died
as well, because at least three people died from this.
And now we finally have public health authorities doing what
should have been done when the Wuhan flu took place.
The Wuhan flu should have been done exactly this way.
The people who are repatriots to America are quarantined and

(01:06:29):
kept away from the vulnerable, the vulnerable isolated. These people
are quarantined until they test negative for this after the
requisite incubation period, which is a few weeks. So we're
finally doing this correctly. But apparently even screw this up
because somebody wound up in Maryland. Somebody wound up in
a flight with a person like that, that Dutch flight
attendant who apparently picked it up, and so we still
got this thing potentially gotten out of control here being

(01:06:51):
spread around the planet by retards who don't follow standard
medical procedures for this sort of thing. And this is
what happened in COVID. Trump let American come back to America.
They never should have been allowed here. If they came
back to America, everyone on the plane should have been
quarantined in an warehouse and they should have been isolated
with no one going in there. But instead they all, oh,
I'm fine, you know, they walk out the going sniffling

(01:07:12):
and coffee, or they hold it in and then they
take it to Houston and to Dallas, and to Oklahoma City,
and to Chicago and to Pittsburgh. And they spread this
contagion oliver. And that wasn't bad enough. The Chinese, who
have bought out most of the textile industry unbknownst much
of the world. In Italy, they control much of the
textiles in Italy. Now, the Chinese left from being in
Wuhan and from the Chinese cities where it was spread

(01:07:34):
and went back to Europe to Italy to run the
factories that they were running, and spread it like the
plague amongst in elderly population who wiping out tens of
thousands of elderly Italians, and then the Italians spread it
all over Europe because they travel everywhere after getting for
the Chinese who brought it over there, and then those
people were allowed to come to America. Nobody stopped flights
from Europe, so they brought it in from Europe. We
got it from Asia, from Americas. We got it from

(01:07:54):
Europe for Europeans, and no controls, no measure to stop this.
So what do I think about hauntavirus. I think that
the approach to it this time is much more sound,
but it's not fool proof. They've made mistakes. And in fact,
of the eighteen people sent to Omaha, Nebraska, the University
Nebraska where or is it Lincoln where they said Nebraska
or the University Nebraska where they have a special quarantine
unit to handle this thing. The only place in the

(01:08:16):
country apparently, so I guess we couldn't put them in werehouses,
but there were so many. We should have done it
last time around, But they said them there and then
two of them developed SIP them, so they sent them
to the CDC in Atlanta, and they said they did
this with the State Department plane I'm not aware the
State of part has any planes. That's maybe they meant
a charter flight for the State Department. But all I
got to say is if I was the flight crew
on that thing, I would expect to be quarantined for

(01:08:36):
flying those people around. Anyway. What do I think about hauntavirus?
I think that the approach is much smarter this time.
But you know what this crap is in South Africa too,
because the elderly people who were sick, they took them
into Johannesburg. Jeez, stupid people to wear signs. Man, Stupid
people who wear signs spread path.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
That was his concern. He was asking, if you think
this is going to go in the direction that the
spicy cough did.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
I do not think so, because the measures being taken
by the United States and South Africa is also similar measures. Now,
you know, contact trait is useless when you let three
thousand people fly back to America and those three thousand
people interact with two or three hundred and fifty thousand
people and it's out of control. But when it's twenty
or thirty people and you actually implement quarantine, much easier process.
Contact tracing works.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Absolutely. Yeah, and I don't think the people are gonna
put up with another potential Coronaviru or you know, covid
if you will, I don't like. I don't know if
you are sheep man, that is true. We do have
too many sheep that are out there. They'll be like, well,
this one's different, you know, and go along with it
all over again.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
And not just not just the sheep, you have the
ones who become agents of the stee you know, where
you can mask you're outside, right, But.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
You're gonna have a lot more people that are gonna
be vocal against it too, that are gonna be just
as agnoxious as well, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
At their point. But me and but we should go
live now to talk to Greta Denberg. Where's she at
in Palestine or somewhere like that where she protesting it? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Yeah, the hotel wander in a row aimlessly.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
Did you see the videos of them? They claim they're
being oppressed on these flotillas, But on the flotillas they're
doing somersaults and jumping jacks and dancing on the boat
having a good old time. A bunch of frauds. Greta Denberg,
one of the dumbest people on the planet. One of
the most famous people on the planet too. You know,
I guess it's great when you can be famous for
being stupid, right. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
It's funny is you have people that are talented and
entertaining and all this stuff, and people that are actually
trying to become famous to entertain people or whatever the
case may be. You know, it can never break through.
And all of a sudden you have somebody like this
or a AOC or you know, any number of people
on the squad, you know, or the people in the
view and all this stuff, and it's like, man, how
do they fail upwards constantly? You know, I mean Joe

(01:10:52):
Biden for crying out loud, I mean became president. I'm like, well,
I mean, you have so many great people that are
out here in the world that are like, man, why
why aren't these people, you know, winning in their respective
field if you will. It's like, it makes no sense.
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
That's funny. You said that. That reminds me of that
that I don't remember who it was talking to Tim
Walls and he says Barack Obama needed somebody to be
second to him that wouldn't be as smart as him,
so that he wouldn't he would look better, he would
look inferior. And so he picked Joe Biden. Joe Biden
becomes president. Now he runs for president. Now he needs

(01:11:30):
somebody for them, So he picked Harris. Harris, and the
same applies to you. I didness well, but that that
he was kind of describing the downward spiral, wasn't he?
I mean it's kind of he wasn't too far off.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
It's uh, it's a true statement. I mean, that woman
is dumber than than two bricks. You know, she's two
bricks full. That's whats in her brain, nothing but mush
up there. I've never seen someone so stupid be so
so lucky in life as she is. She's dumb, lucked
her way and everything. Of course, we know some of
that was a pelvic thrust event, but the rest of
that she just looked into you know. I mean, idiots

(01:12:16):
voted her because she was black and she was a Democrat,
and so I guess that's good enough for them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Yeah, she was only black when she needed to be black,
but she was Indian when she needed to be Indian.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
Correct, She's not black, that's the bottom line. She pretends
she's America's most famous but most famous. Well after that,
what's that, Rachel, what's the one who pretended the NAAC
pretend to be black? Remember that woman? The white woman? Yeah,
so she's Remember she's the most famous fake black woman
because I can't remember that woman's name now, right, Dolezal Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
And stuff to look black and yeah, yeah that's her.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
So I guess she's the second most famous fake black
woman America. The most famous black fake black woman would
be Kamala Harris, right, yeah, yeah, I know somebody said
in her chat, you know, describing the Biden regime, it
was dumb and dumber. Yeah, that's definitely true. Yeah, it's
definitely true. I mean, that's what a sad excuse for
a presidency. I mean, we we've gone. So if we've

(01:13:12):
gone from the August nature of Ronald reraaken to Kamala
Harris running for president, oh my god, Oh my god, Joe,
can you believe it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
We did it?

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Yeah? Right yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
And the the faux video that they did to to
do the announcement of it, it was him talking to
her overspeaker phone, like of course, John, I'm ready, I
get out of here. Over produced, so fake. So obviously,
you know, like if you're gonna if you're gonna do
a video, make it least believable for crying out loud. Yeah,
I mean, yeah, don't do theater.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Come on now, Yeah that was that was ridiculous. But yeah,
you know, it's that's That's what I don't know about
you guys, but that's one of the things I value
about Trump. Yeah, he may be a little hard with
his words, but he's got We've got a man run
in this country again. We got somebody who's got the
grit to get the job done. He's willing to do
what's necessary. He's willing to take the hits, he's willing

(01:14:08):
to take the criticisms. He's not worrying about people's opinions.
He has a plan and he's executing that plan. A
lot of people seem to be confused on it. The
reason why they're confused because they're listening to the wrong
people giving them the odd narrative of what's going on,
and not taking paying attention for themselves and using a
little bit of critical thinking as they're evaluating it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:14:34):
I know, I'd love you know, it's nothing to go there.
I mean, just making a statement here, but it's just
nice to see a president that can stand up, you know,
like Reagan. You know, they can stand up and get
the job done. He's not afraid to do the work.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you, and that if
that's one thing about Trump, you know, he definitely the
guy puts in hours. No one's give him credit for that.
You know, the guy puts some more hours than anyone
ever has. It's just absolutely amazing how he constantly comes
under attack. Look, I mean I met with but someone
this week whom I know, and the reason I won't
say it is because I'm going to share what they

(01:15:06):
share with me, so I want to keep it private,
but I'll mention the extra content. This is a person
who's connected in the conservative community and as a Christian
and this person and I talked about Trump and he said, well,
he's not thrilled with the administration. I said, well, why
because I'm sure there's some reasons. And basically because the
person concerned that Trump is tearing apart the coalition all
this Alex Jones and Tucker and you know, all these

(01:15:28):
other people. And also one of the issues came up
as Trump said he wouldn't start any wars. Well, on
that point, my friend and I disagree because Trump didn't
start this worthy Raineyes did in nineteen seventy nine. It
was long overdue to be addressed. But I didn't want
to have an argument because I respect the person and
I didn't have a lot of time anyway. So we
talked about this, and you know, the one thing we
both agreed on is that, you know, both of us,

(01:15:49):
when Trump does something we agree with, we praise him
for doing a good job, and when he's wrong, we
call him out. A lot of people, my friend told
me he lost friends because he defended something Trump did.
I said, well, then they weren't friends if they part
ways because of that. I mean, like, for instance, I
know that we have a disagreement on Iran. He doesn't
think we should be iron and I think we should
be pomerizing him right now. I think they should be

(01:16:09):
jets dropping bombs at this hour. That's how I feel
about it right now. So but I'm not going to
stop my friendship with this person just because that that's childless,
that's juvenile. But there are people out there like that,
And like I told him, I said, they weren't your friends.
If they they've abandoned you because of that. If they
can't respect your opinion, then what kind of friends are
They're not friends, They're just they're just drinking buddies. Oh
he doesn't drink so but you get my point. So

(01:16:32):
who was it?

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
By the way, I'm kiddy, I'm kiddy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
I'm Alex Jones, friends with Candae someone no funny you know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
Have you just said who it was? It's Johnny Joe
Bob down the street.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
He told me, okay, giving the man to slip up.
He doesn't slip up.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
Yeah, but sometimes I like to let people think I'm
slipping up and I like something out because that's one Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
I do that all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Man, Oh I love it. And then people think they
got something on you. It's like I just did that
on purpose. Yeah, to see. Also, I'll throw at information
occasionally to see where it's gonna land whenever somebody hears
it through the grapevine. Now I know who's talking.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
I do that a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
That's running it down the pike, right, you want to
figure out.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
It's like it's like when I put Easter eggs in
the back of my studio on the shelves, you know,
for my viewers to find the Easter eggs back there.
You know, it's the same thing to see that's paying attention.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
I mean, I get people, especially in a town like
where I live, you know, you have the political scene
gets very small because everybody knows everybody, but everybody's not
necessarily in the same group. So I like to talk
in different groups and just throw something out to see
who's gonna find out about it in this group over
here across town, and and and I'll throw things out

(01:17:51):
there that aren't quite true, but I'll allude to maybe
I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna run for this officeer
do that. People will talk and the next thing, you know,
like a week later, you're like, oh, I heard you're
gonna do this. It's like, really, okay, it's good. Good
to know I's something I threw out, just a throwaway
comment a week or so before, is now being discussed.
So it's it's good to know that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
Yep, I agree. It's it's you know, these are handy tools,
and you meet them with Democrats out there and with
political operatives, even Republicans. You can't trust all those guys.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Yeah, absolutely, And the more more disinformation you can throw out.
And I'm not trying to throw people off from an
official standpoint, but in my personal life or anything that
I may do politically as far as running for something,
people don't need to really know until I make an announcement.
So I like to keep people guessing on things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
John, Yeah, I was just reading something nearby, but we
can't but it's nothing. Oh well, I mean it was
their opinion or something. But yeah, no, what'll we got next?
He turned it back to me.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
Uh so, So I've got a question.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
We mentioned Candice ow as, we mentioned Tucker and all
this stuff, like, what what are your thoughts on where
they are right now? I mean, are they really that
far out there, you know, in Nutsville? Or are they reasonable?

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
At times?

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
What are your thoughts on it?

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Yeah? On those? Are you asking me? You're John?

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
I just just thought, yeah, well, I mean, I look,
I I.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Guess I'll never be on Tucker Carlson's program. But what
a loss that is, you know? Definitely with the candone owns. Look,
Candice Own's lost her mind. She said you hate her,
and her entire viewpoint is colored by her hatred of Jews.
I mean, it's it's it's it's it's repulsive. I mean,
what a side what what what? What? What a what?
A what a worldview from a person who has talked

(01:19:41):
about how she was abused as a black person by
Democrats because she was black and a conservative to demonize
Jews just because she hates Jews. I mean, that's I mean,
I didn't want to believe it, but I listened to
stuff she's spews. It's pretty frightening. I mean that that
sort of thing is sick. I mean, you know, bigotry
and hatred like that is uncalled for. Uh. And as
far as Tucker, Bucker to me has always been an opportunist.

(01:20:02):
You know, there was a time when Tucker Crosson first
took over Bill O'Reilly that he was doing some incredible reporting.
But he wasn't doing the reporting. His staff was doing it.
He was just a talking head out there who can
articulate very well. But nonetheless he did a great job.
He was a great communicator conveying themself. In fact, if
you go back to the first week of January twenty twenty,
Tucker Carlson was the only one on the planet talking
about this viral outbreak that was taking place in a

(01:20:24):
southern Chinese city called Wuhan. That is going to affect
the world, and no one's paying attention because everybody's naval
gazing about an impeachment of Trump. That's what he was
saying in twenty I'll never forget that, never forget that,
and or twenty so he told people about that and
nobody listened. So I had a lot of respect for him.
But I remember Tucker Carlson as the token conservative on CNN,

(01:20:46):
wearing his bow ties, looking silly like he was Orville
red Bocker. And then and then, you know, you know,
he's he's went from one network to another, and when
he doesn't get his way, he leaves. And so Tucker
Carlson lost me. He had me all the way up
until the point where he gave Vladimir Putin one hour
of propaganda and let the guy talk and spew fairy

(01:21:08):
tales about Russian history, and you know, people don't know
any better, just bought this stuff. I mean, I'm still
scratching my head about why he gave Vladimir Putin interview.
What was the value out of that other than he
was getting attention, And that's what he wanted for his channel.
Remember he had over one hundred million views the first
video he did on that channel on x and so look,
I mean, you know, Tucker is very arrogant and dismissive

(01:21:29):
of other people. And he's got more arrogant and dismissive
kind of bill O'Reilly got sure got the same. You know,
they believe they're on press, and so I look, his
betrayal of Trump is epic. Instead of airing his differences
privately with Trump, he went on media and undermined the coalition.
Yet there accusing Trump of being the one who undermined
the coalition. Trump is one. But look, Trump has done

(01:21:51):
plenty to piss off people in his coalition, you know,
and he's very defensive. You attack Trump, he comes out
with both barrels blazing. I mean, he doesn't shoot, you know,
one hundred and fifty five million a round. He shoots
an continental blistic missile at you if you if you
attack him. And that's what Tucker did, and that's that's
what all these guys. But you know what the voice
of reason out there to me is it has always been,
and it's it's Mark Levin. That's the guy who is

(01:22:14):
consistent in what he says. You know, it's it's in.
Mark Levin is also attacking Tucker on Candae and Alex
Jones for all their all their nonsense or anti Trump nonsense,
you know, I mean, are these fair weather fans? Look,
I mean, we have a disagreement to the president. We
don't agree with stuff he's doing. I mean, the deficits
out of control. How about you control that. I'm not
willing to spend one point five trillion dollars on the fests.
That's unnecessary. That's more than we need to spend. It's outrageous,

(01:22:37):
and I would like to see more of these criminals
kick out of the country a lot faster. But I'm
not going to throw my toys out of the cribb.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
You know, what a bunch of children, I think, what
a bunch of child behind him myself, they do call
him Tucker cut guitarals, I mean, you know, And there
is a lot of money that comes out of the
Mid East to influence our policy. Our politics are aational
systems in our media. A lot of people don't seem
to understand that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Now universities are bought and paid for by the Arabs.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Well That's why when Palestine was at the universities and
they're protesting, they were getting away with it because Biden
was involved in it, you know, involved with this nonsense.
And then you got these universities. They are bought off
by these uh mid Easterners to teach Midi studies, their
version of Midi studies. So you know where young people

(01:23:28):
are being swayed here. As far as Candas Owan goes, Chris,
I'm not sure if it's fair to call her racist
against Jews as much as she talks about.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
Israel as a racist and hatred I think is what
I said.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Yeah, yeah, well, I was comparing the.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
Fact as a woman who a woman of color who's
attacked and racist attacks by Democrats. It's it's the height
of irony for her to show such bigotry and hatred
towards Jews, That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
I said, Well, I don't think it's Jews necessarily, it's
the nation of Israel she's attacking, because that's the narrative
of this Nick fuint Is and now Candas Owans and
Tuck Carls and the Israel's this bad nation. To the
point I think the United Nations is sanctioning certain Jews
and stuff that have migrated over into the West Bank.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
Yes they are. But you know what, the west there
goes my power. This is the power supply held on.
Uh there it goes there, it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
You're losing power.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
Yeah, the power it's back. It's it's fluctuating. Now, my
power fluctuating Todd's camera. Waf That's pretty amazing. I had
to reach And so you're wondering about Ai, John, My
AI shut Todd's camera off with my power.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
It reminds me.

Speaker 6 (01:24:42):
That reminds me of that episode of the Big Bag
Theory at the end of it, because they were controlling
things remotely. These two guys in China are Americans obviously
confoy with two Americans or two Chinese guys in China
going they're speaking Mandarin.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
The hey, the lights start flicking and who's doing that?
Wallow wizard in uh In in California. As he was
changing his lights and flickering them, they were laughing. But
so but no, look it's it's uh, here's the thing
at the West Bank. Yes, the Europeans who have no
credibility whatsoever, they're biggots. And race.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Oh I think Chris just froze up. He did, so, Yeah,
we'll pull them out and see if we can pull
them back in once. Once I see movement and stuff,
I'll just bring him back in.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
And it sounds good. Not a problem there. So we
got bet what about less than twenty minutes here on
the show, John, Yeah, I guess we're getting, uh, we're
getting on the final strutch here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
So yeah, we do. We do have problems in this
country with people kind of infiltrating with their with their raw. Yeah,
he's completely gone now, infiltrating with their influencing with money
and stuff like that. Universities or major universities is Chris
was saying. And it's gotten out a hand because we're
along on the stuff to happen. You know, we're allowing

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people to come to this country and start cities and
places like Texas or take over cities and places like
Michigan and attempting to institute real law right and we're
seeing a very slow congress when it comes to matters
like these.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
And of course you got universities colleges that don't mind
taking the money because it funds a lot of their
their chairs. If you will funds a lot of their
you know, the professors and and you know, the different
wings of the of the universities, et cetera, the different studies,
and so it ends up basically I think the colonel
just texted us too, by the way, Uh. But but
it ends up getting to the point where they can

(01:26:38):
kind of control what's on the docket, if you will,
what's what's going to be offered as far as courses, uh,
you know, uh, degrees, et cetera. You know what kind
of classes you can teach, how you can teach those
classes and things of that nature. So to me, if
you if you can, if you're teaching things in a
skewed manner, of course you're gonna you're gonna basically brainwash

(01:26:58):
people to agree that they're gonna belie things that just
aren't true. Whether or not you're trying to brainwash them
to do a certain thing or follow a certain thing,
you're getting people to believe something that's just not true. Historically,
and of course that's a way you can kind of
control the masses if you would get them to start
to believe things that just aren't true. And we see
that in the universities on a level that we've not seen,

(01:27:19):
you know, and in this country, especially for maybe the
last forty years or so, whenever it really started right
back in the seventies, probably early eighties, a lot of
foreign influence as far as our universities are concerned, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
I think we've had people try to infiltrate with foreign influence,
but it was difficult. I think we had a Congress
that more. I mean, you go back to McCarthy days
and stuff like that, Cold War days and so on.
We were more aware of it, and I think we
did things to prevent it. And now we're just such
an open border country to the point that they can
very easily infiltrate our country and start taking over our institutions.

(01:27:53):
We're influencing our institutions, and as you said, you know,
money talks and bs walks, and when that money starts
rolling in, there's yeah. Yeah, we can do so many
studies in this colle university. Not a problem. How many
hundreds of millions of dollars do you say you're committing
to us? You know, it's a lot of money. You
don't turn away a lot of money when you're run
a university. They love to get it from the federal government.

(01:28:13):
They love to get it from foreign influence. But then
you start seeing media outlets. We were talking about Tucker Katarilson,
I like saying it like that katarros but he got
startup money from a guy who is his family was
Iranian I think was it one parent was a Ranian
and the other parent was Pakistani. I think, and very
well with him. Man made a lot of money. You

(01:28:34):
may be first generation of America, but you wonder, now
you see somebody like Tucker who gets funding to start
up his business from somebody, how much influence is he
getting from this guy saying yeah, we kind of like,
don't like what Trump's doing right now. Or I'm not
saying that's what's happening. I'm saying speculatively, this is the
sort of things that go on in the United States.

(01:28:54):
But we see Katar offers a lot of money to universities,
a lot of money to media outlets, and I have
attempted to make a lot of influence in the United
States through the years. And when you see someone like
Tucker Carlson saying, yeah, I'm thinking about buying some property
in Qatar, I think I might like to be able
to summer there or whatever he plans on doing, you know.

(01:29:16):
I mean, they say he can make such a great
living and uh, leave Maine and go to Qatar to visit.
But you wonder why, why, guitar, Of all the places
in the world you can go to, what's the appeal
with Qatar?

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Maybe it's just a lot of money or a lot
of a lot of places to make contacts if you will,
and uh, you know, maybe he can move his money
around a heck of a lot easier.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
You know, you buy a place in a foreign, foreign
land like that because you have connections, right, because you
want to I want to make sure business, business goes well.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
It doesn't seem a certain agenda maybe, I don't know, doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Seem like a normal location to me. Of all the
places in the world you might think to go to.
I'm not saying a man couldn't. And he's Tucker Carlson
has a as a point. You know, he's the free
American too, and he can buy property wherever heat darn
well pleases. And that's fine too, I understand that. But
we see a strange sense of logic going on here.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, and I'm really not sitting down
and really just followed much of these I guess stars
if you will. Inside the conservative movement, I really don't
watch cit aund watch Fox News, I don't really watch
a lot of podcasts or anything like that. I just
don't sit around listen a bunch of talking heads tell

(01:30:33):
you about, you know, every problem that they've solved. Just
listen to them, and then of course the next week,
you know, those problems are exacerbated, and of course they're
onto something else, spinning you up, you know, basically to
get your like, your click, your whatever, your follow, and
you reshare. You know, it's about the about the bottom
line for them. It's not about solving real problems or
bringing awareness. It's just about talking about whatever you want

(01:30:55):
to talk about. The spin people up to get him
to come back and click on your material.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Right well, that was one of my points earlier about
you know, getting on social media and stuff is very
competitive to do stuff like this right here. If you're
trying to push something and grow something relying on a business,
it's very difficult to do. And since so many people
have got involved in it, all the algorithms it kind
of depleted people's ability to make a reach. So you've
got to be angry to get at what you do.

(01:31:19):
B understand the social media platforms you're on and see
you have the money to invest and get the breach
that you need to get to try to make money
off it. And so it's not it's not viable that
people are going to make huge money or even a
living off from doing social media. It's you know, they
might be able to supplement their income a little bit
or have some extra cash or whatever, and that's fine,

(01:31:40):
but to actually depend on it for a living is
probably not going to happen for the majority of people anymore.
Them stories years ago, remember YouTube, yay, do you know
those guy's doing these YouTube videos? He's making millions of
dollars And it was like, no way, how do you
do that? Right now, you got quite a few people
doing it, But then you get people this here assystem
that people talk about out and I kind of did

(01:32:01):
a little background because I kept hearing about this guy
and I'm going, you know, he says a leftist and
he was big on TikTok and he I started doing
some little background research on this guy, you know, who's
connected with what's going on. And you find out that
they have the Office of Digital what is it, Office
of Digital? I think they closed it and turned it
into a doge Yeah, something like that. Yeah, I can't

(01:32:24):
think of that Digital strategy, office of Digital Strategy. And
within that under the Biden administration, within that, they had
another office just for social media. And so you find out,
you know, you start putting two and two together and
figuring things out, and you realize, this guy's connected with
this office, so he's getting stuff from the top. And
when they're censoring conservatives on TikTok, but this guy's getting

(01:32:47):
this magnificent reach somehow, and it's all supposed to be
all organic growth. You realize if he's connected with the
White House and the White House is doing all the censoring,
don't you think they might be also be telling TikTok,
saying but him, don't censor him, don't stop him. In fact,
his algorithm gets put wide open. The rest of you
you can shut down, we don't care. But that guy
gets full reach, along with a few other guys that

(01:33:08):
are connected with this office. Right, So so yeah, they
got advantages right because of their connections.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Yeah, and you watch some people's you know that what
what watched their number of follows and likes and shares
and views or whatever. You know you'll put out if
you could put out something very similar, you know, there
will be like five, six, seven times what what you
get in the same amount of time.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
Yeah, they do. They do throttle content if you will,
And of course prefer certain creators for sure, especially if
you lean a certain way politically. That's that's for certain.
And like you said, a good upstart that wants to
put out good content. It's still hard to find those followers,
especially real followers, you know, uh, because everybody else is
competing for the same thing, whether whether it's uh, let's

(01:33:52):
put you know, there's the Colonel's back everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:33:54):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
For those who are who were wondering and where where
the colonel went? So a lot of our viewers from
South Africa maybe wondering he's back.

Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
I didn't. I didn't go anywhere. It's my crappy power company,
you know, every time it reigns, it's like being in
South Africa, there's no electricity.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
He lives in a commonwealth, Yeah, exactly, the Commonwealth.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
Enough said yeah, well we left off. I was saying
that Todd needs a new camera man. That thing keeps
going off. But I was saying that you were talking
about we're talking about Candice Owans or something like that,
where we.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
Yeah, yeah, I was. I was asking you, I think
regarding you referred to as being bigoted or hatred towards Jews,
and I was pointing out that I'm not sure it's
directly towards people who are Jews as much as it's
the country or the nation of Israel that she targets.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
And a lot of these are the West Bank, and
then you're talk about the West Bank.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
That's oh okay, that's where we left off.

Speaker 4 (01:34:48):
Yeah, we left off the West Bank where you're talking. Yeah, no,
you can't. That's why Europeans are racist and bigots and
you can't trust anything they say. Uh, these are, after
all the people who oppressed us for millennia in Europe,
especially Europe, but also Western Europe. So you're not really
credible people when it comes to this topic. Yes they are.
And I was about to say that when the power
went out that if Jews are living in Jude and Samara,

(01:35:11):
I have no problem with that. That's where the Jews
are from. So the so called Palestinians came afterwards. The
Arabs move in that area after they are already Jews there,
so you know, they've been there for thousands of years.
And so if they want to claim that the West
Bank of Jordan is a Palestine, they're wrong. It's the
West Bank of Jordan. Either it's part of trans Jordan
or it's part of Israel. And in my view of

(01:35:31):
Samara and Samara and Judea are part of Israel. So
if Europeans want to sanction them for living in their homeland,
they can get stuffed. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
Yeah, A lot of people don't take the history too
far back, do they, because they always say it always
blown to Palestine and it didn't affect Palestine isn't even
an Arabic word, right, It came from.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
The Romans of Philistines. It was the term they applied
to people there. And so if Palestine comes from Philisine,
if I'm not mistaken, I believe you're right. Ye. So look,
I mean the problem is that these people they have
history that suits their needs. You know, first off, North
Africa was Christian until the Muslim invasion, and they slaughtered
or oppressed the North Africans and they became Muslims by conquest.

(01:36:16):
Islam has always spread its word through violence, not through prophesizing. Prophesizing.
The only place that Islam has been successful prophesizing amongst
Black Americans in prisons. That the one place have been
successful prophesizing converting Christians to Muslims. Nowhere else does it
work unless they kill people. Christians do it by the power.
They don't have to do it by the sword. They
have done it by the sword. They did the Crusades

(01:36:38):
and the Baltic States, and of course they tried to
not so much convert Muslims in the Holy Land as
to recapture the Holy Land from the Muslims who desecrated
it and built their mosque on top of sacred ground.
But the Christians, bind large have done it by word
of mouth, convincing people. Not too often. Did they rely
on the sword.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
John oh No Holding brought up some about explosive device
was found and detonated at a dam in Alabama. So
I was kind of trying to make a quick look
and what he's talking about, because I didn't hear anything.
Did you guys hear anything about this?

Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
It's first, I'm hearing about it. I'll do a quick
look if you want to keep keep going with the show.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
A routine diver pair to federally recognized DAM mobile mobile
DAM led an unexpected of course. Now I'm getting all
the ads I expected to discovery as divers found a
hidden explosive device Tuesday. According to the Mobile Area Water
and Sewer System, after the grenade type I ED was
located at the Converse Reservoir DAM uh M A w
M A WSS contacted the Mobile County Sheriff's Office, which

(01:37:47):
facilitated multi agency response to retrieve the debtonate, retrieve and
detonate the explosive HM. So apparently somebody had an ID
to you know. It sounds like somebody had a failed
attempt to blow up a day.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
I'm kind of thinking, well, or was it some old
device that that somebody had just found by chance?

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
He said it was. They did describe it as a uh,
what was it?

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
You said something about a grenade like device.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
I'm like, well, I uh, after the grenade type IED
was located at the reservoir DAM so improvise explosive device, right,
That's what IED stands for. So it gives me the
idea was homemade. Yeah, I'm thinking somebody tried to create
chaos and it failed, and it was discovered unexpectedly while

(01:38:36):
they were doing to die for repair and create a
little bit of a panic in the area. I'm sure
thanks for bringing that to our attention, tolder me, because
that's kind of a kind of makes for an interesting
story that you don't come in and see in the news.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
Right, No, you do not, You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
So what else we got with our minimum time here
of about eight minutes? Christ, you're muted or something.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
Sorry, Ye, I was clearing my throat, so I gotta remember.
I think also, my software has been acting up. Sometimes
it just turns it off on its own, don't even realize.
I'll pay attention to it. But did you see in
South Carolina where they were trying to redistrict and the
Republicans voted it down seventeen Did you see that?

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
Yeah? I saw a bit of it. I didn't see
the whole thing, But I guess a lot of people
are trying to redistrict all of a sudden, suddenly hear
in the mid term elections. I wonder why.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
And it's funny, is the number of Republican seats that
are that they're going to pick up now that the
Democrats started this whole redistricting nonsense, and now Republicans are
actually going to benefit as a result. I think if
they all stand through lawsuits, we'll see Tennessee's Tennessee Democrats
have already filed a lawsuit, as they should if they

(01:39:56):
disagree with it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
But right now Republicans are actually looking to gain from
all this, potentially as many Republican seats. And the one
place they thought they were going to lose a bunch
of seats was Virginia. It was going to be ten
to one, but instead of a six to five, and
my dad, it might not even be six to five
now and not Virginia voters are angry about what happened,
how the Democrats try to slip through that maybe a
Republican might be able to slip through and take one

(01:40:20):
of the seats from the Democrats and flip it around.
So you never know. But the thing is is that
South Carolina. The reason they did that is that if
you look at the redrawing map, instead of having solid
Republican districts and one Democratic, it turned into several marginal
Republican districts which could come back to bite them later on.
So they would take all the votes most likely this election,

(01:40:41):
but in future the demo aphics who work against them,
and they can wind up losing several of them. So
they Republicans actually vote against it. Trump's not happy about it,
but it's a prudent decision. But then again, as I've
said before, this redistrict seing, this genior managering, is simply
immoral and neither party should participate it. But they do,
they sure do.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Yeah. I don't like it, especially right in the middle
of an election. You know, it's it's difficult to campaign
or an election. It's feels kind of deceiving towards voters
during election because hey, he was our candidate, but now
what happened. You know, I'm over here with this guy.
I don't think that's right either, Chris. Yeah, because of

(01:41:20):
fluctuations of population growth and stuff like that, you may
have to. But and they're supposed to what, evaluate that
every ten years or so something like that and make
determinations on what. And I'm sure states have their own
laws how often they evaluate and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
But in Tennessee, what they did was they changed it
as a special session, and then all of a sudden
they reopened the the congressional districts as far as the
picking at petitions, et cetera, et cetera, because several of
them change. So now now all of a sudden, you
have people who are running in one district may not
even be in that district anymore. That's what it can be.

(01:41:54):
Obviously a problem for sure that didn't in Tennessee, that
didn't create. That wasn't a problem that was created. Now
all of a sudden, you have people who are running
it and say the ninth congressional district, who are now
running in a much changed congressional district. I mean, it's
just changed it drastically.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
Had there been cases where people are registered in a
district and they change districts and stuff another not even
the district they're registered, and they're living in a new district,
and so now they can't run in the district that
they were down.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
The most states, and especially in Tennessee, basically states that
you must just be a resident of the state to
run for say Congress. You don't have to actually live
in that particular district. Because the line do change on
a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
Yeah, I think New Hampshire is that way as far
as on a federal level anyway. I mean that's what
good Lander wasn't from this district.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
Because a district and honestly could change just basically your
house could be on one side of the street and
it gets changed just you know, the next day and
you're not in that district and it's basically one block
down the street. Is that the new district?

Speaker 4 (01:42:58):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
So what you You've messed somebody over who lived in
that district for a long time represented it and all
of a sudden they would have to move. So yeah,
that makes no sense, so that you know, allowing them
to be able to stay where they're at, run for
where to whichever office I think is the way to
go most most likely.

Speaker 4 (01:43:15):
Yeah, but you know, this redistricting thing isn't just South Carolina.
Mississippi's governor Tate Reeves also said he's going to cancel
a special legislative session that would have redrawn the state
Supreme court districts and possibly Jerry Manager congressional districts. So
it's happening for Southern states have backed out in this.
It's interesting maybe reasons prevailing here, but the Democrats aren't

(01:43:36):
going to be reasonable, So the Republicans have fought back
in a war that now they're going to find themselves
in trouble here. This is very disturbing, what's going on here,
very disturbing.

Speaker 3 (01:43:47):
Oh oh absolutely. But the thing is that if Democrats,
you know, they can't win on their ideas, so they
had to figure out a way to steal somewhere, some way,
and Republicans are like, well, we can do the same thing,
you know, and push back, but we're gonna do even
better because we're gonna pick up more seats. So, you know,
good luck Democrats.

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
I think you're right about that. That's the bottom line.
That's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:44:10):
He beat them at their own game.

Speaker 4 (01:44:12):
Why not exactly exactly? Well, John, you've let our show tonight,
and I hope the audience has found interesting. I know
I've found interesting the conversation we've had tonight. Let's see
what happens with the elections coming up in November. But
Trump needs to get this Iran issue resolves soon.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
John, Yeah, I don't know what he's been dragging his
feet before. We talked about that last week as to
why it may be he's slowed down so much, and
I know he's really crippling Iran right now in their
economy doing what he's doing. But Iran is trying to
I think they less I seen, they would have the
horror straight of horror moves shut down again. And they're

(01:44:46):
threatening I guess France and England both are sending ships
over to the area. I don't think they're going into
the Strait, but I think they're looking to protect their
interests as far as commercial freighters go. And and they're
threatening them too, and think, I'm over here, we're gonna
have to take force against them. And it's like, dude,
all you got left is a few drones. And that's
our show. Ladies and gentlemen. We are at the top

(01:45:07):
of the hour. So we hope you got something out
of it tonight. Enjoyed it at least, and catch us again,
same time, same place next week. Good night, and God
bless