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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters every Wednesday
evening from seven to eight pm right here on WUSMN
fifteen ninety AM, WUSMN ninety five point three FM, and
it's streaming live on WUSMN dot Live. Making sense of
the inverted reality we are subject to every day, The

(00:24):
Common Sense Conservatives.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Are here to help bring you back to reality.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Now your host Chris Wyatt, Todd McKinley, and John cloven.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives. It's another
Wednesday night. Check the mikey okay, yeah, I'm working. I
have my volume down so low. I didn't even realize
my mike was working or not. So yeah, it's another
Wednesday night and we are all present. Accounting for Chris.
Why did not make it up here in New Hampshire
yet this week, but we will be looking forward for
that day. How you guys doing there? Todd?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh good, John, I appreciate it. I appreciate you got
the lead tonight. I completely forgot. I was like, is
it my time or is it next week? So I
appreciate it. Sorry about the hot mic there, I'm glad
it wasn't going out on the air. I don't know
what I was doing or what the heck. I'm cat sitting.
I got a I got a cat, so I make
sure he's fed, and I had to put him out
so I didn't want him interfering with the with the show.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
See I could hear it on my end of it.
So you were petting the cat and making all sorts
of like baby noise cat.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I was feeding the cat and just talking to it.
So I was like, oh my goodness, hot, mic was
I talking to the cat on the air.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
It's a shame he had to put the cat down.
I mean, I didn't know we're going to go that far.
It's pretty serious tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
He's outside, Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
How you do him? Man? Are you feeling okay?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Still under the weather. I didn't want to spend spread
the pestilence from Georgia back to Pennsylvania, not up to
the New England area, so I passed. It's a good
thing too, because I think I haven't gotten as much
sleep in probably a few years. I'm still working, you know,
countless hours, but taken a nap here and there which
has been refreshing, but no I'm still got some kind
of respiratory thing. It's not COVID, it's Nauta tuma, but

(02:02):
it's definitely on the mend, but still still lingering. So
it's just as well because my original plan had been
to leave Sunday, drive up the upstate New York and
then head over to Connecticut and then make my way
over to New Hampshire. But yeah, but that hasn't quite
panned out, so we'll have to wait and see who
that is. But that trip is not this week because
I'm still hacking away a little bit with the chest infection.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, if you had the seventy seventh booster, you wouldn't
be sick right now. It would be less severe, I think.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Right, I had seventy six, So apparently I missed out
on that last week.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh man, one more, you'd have been set.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Well, you know it's trust the science, right.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh, it's subtled, right, We've been told it's subtle.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
That's right. The science is settled. That's what the left
tells us. You know, these these these freaking you know
alchemists who think that they I love how they attack
conservatives actually believe in genuine science and tell us that
we have to trust the science. Of course, I was
reading about that today, more about the global warming and
how the world is changing. I did watch a repeat
of the video of Greta Dinburg a few years ago.

(03:05):
Oh do you ruined my childhood? She ruined my adulthood?
Having listened to her whining, good lord.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yep, yeah, listen to her. What and the adults who
used her man, I mean for crand aloud, they're the
ones who ruined your childhood. Let you be a kid
and go enjoy yourself. Don't sit there and take advantage
of you and have you going into the un or
these flotillas for crying out loud. That's what ruined your childhood.
Adults not being responsible around you for crying a loud.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, technically she's an adult now right, Well now I'm
saying not acting like it, but yeah, they did. She
was what sixteen or something they put.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
On her a teenager at the time, you know, you
know what we would call a high school kid, right,
They took advantage of her.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
I think what ruined her childhood is the fact she's
a moron. Additionally, that played a large role in her
ruined childhood. Yeah, anyway, it's uh, yeah, so I'm still here.
I'll try to make up their first chance again.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Awesome. Yeah, I know, you know whenever you know, it's like,
don't want you to have to go running around when
you're sick and stuff, and we know you'll make it
eventually one day. I'm sure there's a few people up
here looking forward to that moment when it comes besides us.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Right absolutely, I look forward to making my way up
there at some point. I got to figure that out.
I may make it a point to be in there
on a Wednesday as I'm doing some sort of sight
seeing tour.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I've always wanted to really just tour New England, and.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Is late September mid October wud be the best time
to try that. Leaves and all that. Yeah, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I've been up through there many times, but it's always
in conjunction with something else working, you know, especially you know,
when advancing the Vice President. I went up there many
times with Vice President Pence or Cheney, and it was
always you know, you're there for a couple of days,
or in and out for one day, and it's not
enough to see anything, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's hard to do. It's hard to tour when you're work,
and it's hard to take that time or fit it in.
Or you might get a thing in here or there,
but it's not like you really get a chance to
relax and enjoy it. Lo, TJ, Renee and Mike thank
you for joining us on our social media.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yep, absolutely so.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, No, there's a lot to see up here, man.
I mean, you know this, this was where it all began.
I guess you could say Boston likes to take a
lot of claim for it, but I still think it's
where in New Hampshire where the pine tree riots happened,
uh several years before, you know, I mean they kind
of kicked it off and they had enough.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Pine trees were fighting. What was going on?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, the pine tree riots. Man, it's like Canada.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
They were fighting maple trees from Canada. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
No.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
The the king was marking all of it or having
he had.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Things like that.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, for the masks, the best pines, for the masts
and stuff. Right, well, they were marking a lot of
trees and for the the lumber yards and stuff that,
Like what are we supposed to.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Do scraps basically?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, they would gett away with it for a lot
of years ago, and I'm just cutting all the trees
and using them. I don't know what the king is
gonna do when when he needs a mask, but uh yeah.
Then they started enforcing for that, and well that's when
things started breaking loose, and they said, no, no, no, no,
no no. I don't know what you guys do on
the other side of the ocean, but over here in
the colonies, we do it differently. So they let them know.
I mean they weren't nice about it, so uh yeah. Anyway,

(06:17):
so much USS constitution down there in Boston. You got
conquered Lexington not far away from here. Places in the
state New Hampshire awesome places of main if you can
stomach the Bernie Sanders Land Ver a month's actually a
nice place. Otherwise.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
I mean, what's funny about Boston claiming to be kind
of the first, the birthplace of all this. It's like
only a part of that city can claim that because
they built so much of it out land reclamation. I mean,
if we're crying out loud, I think only a fraction
of the city actually existed during the colonial time, am
I right?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I think Boston was Boston from that time is they
might have expended somebody ferry a.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Lot of plain land reclamation, and a lot of it
was swampy land around where Boston was found in the
original part of the city, Right.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I'm not sure on that.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, so most of the city that's there now, you know,
didn't really exist. It was mostly marshland at the time
of the colonial period, I believe. So whenever Boston claims
to be the first, it's like only a part of
that city can be claimed to be the first.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Right, I don't know, it's still Boston. I I don't
know that. I don't want I don't want to contradict you,
but it's still Boston.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's still sure, for sure, I get.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
To I get what you're saying. I mean, you know,
and so yeah, yeah, but you're right, it's pretty close
to sea level in certain parts and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
As far as I know, I'm not just making it.
I'm just I'm just joking and kidding. Yeah, until you
get back at somebody from Boston who's like, oh, I
was first this and that, it's like what part of
the city where you're from, Well, that was not even
a part of the city at the it was underwater.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
As long as Southeast count man, that's what matters of
Southeast got to count. Yeah, So yeah, I guess we've
had a few things happen since we last spoke. Reflecting
Pond has been a hot topic for all that coming.
So I did a comparison because you know, Obama back

(08:10):
in twenty ten to twenty twelve had renovations done to
the Reflecting Pond, and a lot of people are pointing
fingers at Trump and say, you can't put dork pain
in reflecting pond and expect this not to happen. It's
like what like Obama didn't. So there there's a lot
of close similarities and differences between the two of So

(08:30):
Obama did in twenty twelve, Trump recently did it. Obama
spent thirty six million dollars to refurbish the re reflecting Pond.
Thirty six million dollars today would be equivalent, counting for inflation,
fifty three point two eight million dollars if you were
spending that today, well today, Trump Trump only spent what
seventeen top fourteen point eight fourteen point I thought went

(08:51):
up yeah, sixty yeah, okay, yeah, I thought it was
about it to see you.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
That's not the issue. The issue is the sabotage that's occurring.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Well, that's the problem. I'm not seeing any evidence of
the sabotage.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
I mean, I don't need to see evidence the law
enforcement arrested people. So are people claiming the law enforcement
agency is rogue and running around arresting people haven't done anything,
then that's an allegation needed level. Until that's the case,
I'll wait. I'll wait to hear what happens to these cases.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
So it's interesting enough people was seven people got arrested
and charged, and I think there was accusations they were
cutting because apparently this probably urrea paint that they used
rubberises and it acts like a liner inside the reflecting
pond to seal it. So what are they doing cutting
it or something and ripping it. I know it's not

(09:35):
a whole lot of damage. For what is the.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
People apparently were caught putting chemicals in the water, which
fosters the algae bloom and poison the ducks and also
weaken the integrity of that rubber material paint that was
at the bottom. So let's wait and see if these
people are going to claim that the government is just
resting people with bogus allegations. That's a whole separate allegation.
But in the meantime, I'll trust the authorities of arrested

(09:59):
people who are damaged the pond. We've seen them do
this crap before. I mean, these are the same people
that run around the country and scratch Tesla's cars, that
have cameras on them that identify their assailants. You know,
they're not very bright. So I think that let's just
wait and see about what's going on here. I find
it hard to believe that that algae. I mean, I've
had a pool before, and I've treated it, and I'm

(10:20):
not had algae grow so fast is what happened there.
It's it's and that that that's that reflecting pool exists
different decades. We didn't have algae problems, So you know,
it's strange suddenly.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
They had Obama.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yes, yes, I know, but but it exists different decades
before Obama and it wasn't an algae problem. Something has
happened that's fostered this anyway. So the point here is
that I will wait to see what happens with these cases.
Also to see what what happens with the reflecting the
pool before I say that it was poorly done. It
just the whole thing seems a little dodgy. You know,
it happens, it's just so quickly. Has just happened.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Well, when people are pulling it paint, When when they're
reaching in there and grabbing at it and pull one
guy gotta what can or something got arrested for it.
That's a long Oh. I think Mike's talking about something
else here anyway. So yeah, people were pulling at it
and stuff like that, and that's why they got arrested
because they were accused of damaging it.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
They weren't.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
They weren't exactly just seeing something floating in the water.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Actually caught someone pouring chemicals and is one of the reports.
So we have to wait and see, you know, chemicals going.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
So yeah, anyway, yeah, I thought I thought the reports
that we've been hearing have been pretty vague. But it's
also Trump Will calls it fake media, right for a reason.
I keep looking at the media and I go, these
reports I'm getting are just kind of vague and they're
really not giving any details anything. So you got to
point there, Chris. I mean, I guess we're going to
have to wait until they come up with something with

(11:53):
more detailed Idoja releases something.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Was there any video by chance of anybody doing anything
in particular? You know, I'm not sure. I haven't seen anything.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Right. Well, what what I find strange is why it
isn't twenty four hours survants by the Park Service on
those monuments. Why don't we have cameras out there? We
have cameras everywhere else. We got cameras watching people run
the red lights. We could put cameras on a national treasure.
Give me a break.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, And I know those different cameras on the
on the mall at different points. I don't know where,
and what coverage that they have and what's lacking or whatever.
You know, there is there something on top of the monument?

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Obviously there's nothing there because these idiots went out and
and and damaged the mall, writing eighty six forty seven.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
On there, yeah, which I was just on the other
side of that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah. They used the same chemicals most likely that they
used to destroy the grass out there to destroy the
reflecting pole. I mean, this isn't rocket science. They their
damage has been seen before. Why is it so implausible
for people believe that they've sabotaged the reflecting pool that
Trump just had completed, which embarrassed their savior, God the
Great Husay in Obama.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Well, the thing is, you knew that they they were
going to target, and I knew that they were going
to target the reflecting pool because they had been the
story for probably you know, a solid month if you will,
along with Iran.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
It was it was a counter see, well, they tried everything.
They're like, oh, it was no bid contract. Well okay, fine,
it was. You know, if you have a compelling need,
you don't need a bid. There's there's a way this
process works. So they present a compelling need, they got it,
and that story didn't resonate. They weren't happy then when
it came in and they produced it in only a
quarter in real dollars of what it cost Oboma to
do it. He screwed it up years ago. I mean,

(13:29):
look at all the videos they showed a black Americans
visiting their reflecting pool, you know, weeks after that thing happened,
before the paint was already peeling, when they did it
for thirty some million dollars. So all the stories that
left media tried to generate about how poorly was going
with Trump. Never worked, So this to me just seems
like the latest effort by them to undermine the Trump administration.
They'll do anything to destroy America. They hate this country

(13:50):
and shame on them.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, the thing about the no bid contract is the
reason why it wasn't no big contract did nothing to
do with the Trump administration at all. They didn't They
didn't hire the contract or. They bought the chemicals or
the paint from a provider and that person brought in
the contractor. They were the they were the contractors to
the to the supplier. So that's why they got the

(14:13):
bid or the job.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Whatever the case is. My point is is that that's
what the media focused on. Yeah, that's all they cared about.
They didn't care about the quality of the work. So
what I'm sorry, did not go to enough left handed lesbian, black,
you know, gay transsexuals who who got a government contract
based on points awarded to them for DEI. So is
that the problem? I'm sorry I missed something.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, no, exactly. And there was not enough rainbow flags
out there on the side celebrating you know, Pride month
or whatever, which was which is sad, and I understand
that they had the no bid because they needed to
get it completed for America's two hundred fiftyth birthday. There's
gonna be a lot of people going through our nation's capital.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
It needed to be done.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
You couldn't have the Algae Bloom or some sort of
construction project with things draped off if you or roped off.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Well, look, I mean, this stuntsens to be going forever.
Anything they can do to undermine this presidency. I mean,
we watched the Biden administration light up the pillars the
columns of the White House on the South lawn and
rainbow colors professing their love for gay pride. Yet they
weren't offended by that, but they were offended by a
UFC fight took place on the lawn. You know, it's

(15:23):
it's it's just it's ridiculous. These people. They hate anything
that promotes America anything. They just anything to divide the
country and divide this into groups and balkanize the country
on race and gender and sex and sexual orientation. That's
what they're all about. And that's what the Biden regime did.
And the media never said the word. But now they
have issues with what the Trump administration trying to beautify

(15:43):
a mess that's been sitting down in DC for years.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Right absolutely. And there's a lot of other places in
the in the city there in Washington that have been
you know, refurbished, et cetera, et cetera, and look a
heck of a lot better. Some of these offbeat, off
the beaten path monuments and that nature that this administration
has actually fixed that have been neglected for decades upon
decades that are there that are obscure, but now people
are actually visiting them because they look good again.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah. No, that's the thing that tourism is blooming in Washington,
d C. It's not because of cherry blossoms. That time
is coming on. The spring is over with cherry blossoms.
They are coming because they want to see DC because
it's been cleaned up. It's not the dangerous cessibel that
it has been for many many years, despite the fact
that we still had an idiot in charge of the district.
At least the federal gums taking responsibility for its portion
of it and cleaning it up. And so they just

(16:32):
can't help themselves. They just look, I just like this,
it's like this nonsense. New York Times ran another story
about the South after REFUW program, and they call it
how Trump turned it into the REFTUE program to a
white program. First off, what's the problem if white people
are coming over as refugees? Are white people not able
to be refugees? Can they not be persecuted? I mean, seriously,
have you not watched what's happened in Europe in the past.

(16:54):
That's the first problem. Second problem is that so Trump
turned to the REFTUE program to a white's only program.
Except that's a lot. New York Times doesn't bother even
try to find out the people who are non white
have come over. I've interviewed Indians and mixed race colors
and black South Africans who've come over under the program
that's supposedly just for white farmers. And they continue to
run this propaganda each and every day on their crappy newspaper.

(17:15):
And on top of that, you know, they never even
raised the fact that the Biden demonstration brought over two
hundred and fifty thousand white Ukrainians to this country in
less than three years, going around commediately providing humanitarian parole
and then give them the temper of protected Saties which
has expired, and they're still here. They're still in our country.
And they're white. They're blonde here, they're blue eye. They

(17:35):
have a problem with a quarter million of them, upwards
to three hundred thousand have come into this country on
under that program, and only six thousand white South Africans
come over here. And they're losing their minds. There's such hypocrites,
it's such liars.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Oh, absolutely, for sure, you know. But it's funny as
you say, hey, let's push back on some Somalis. We
have too many Somalis coming here and taking advantage, you know,
especially in Minnesota, you know, committing fraud, you know, into
the tune of billions, and you say, hey, maybe we
should look at that. But they'll say, oh, you're racist.
But then they'll say you have white South Africans coming here,

(18:06):
and they'll say, oh, well, you're also racist. I don't
understand it. It's it's weird. It's like you you allow
so many people in here, you know, ninety some percent
probably you know a person of color, right, I'm imagining.
I don't know the demographics.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Well before Trump, virtually everybody came to this country after
you was a person of color from the developing world.
Very few of them were properly vetted.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, so ninety percent or people of color to this day.
So are how are you racist? If that's still the
demographics that's coming here. I don't quite get that.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Oh, it's no longer the demographics. Now it's mostly white
South Africans coming, and that's their problem.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
They're feeling from South Africa. Yeah, but I'm saying on
the whole, no.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
But there's there's no one else coming in tie. The
President suspended the program, So so that's that's the issue. So,
but the hypocrisy here is that they didn't complain when
three hundred thousand Ukrainians flooded our country without our approval,
and now six thousand South Africans come over and they're
losing their mind. Who happened to be also white? You know,
three hundred thousand versus three thousand, and you know, come on,
which they didn't complain once about Ukrainians because Ukraine was

(19:08):
the pet project. Oh, let's feel bad for Ukraine. Let's
feel bad for this penis piano playing you know, grifter
in chief who led his country into war and has
led intoto oblivion and is being funneled money by the
hundreds of billions of dollars by corrupt politicians, from Joe
Biden to Kiir Starmer to all these clowns in the
German government, in the French government to fuel a war
to murder Ukrainians and murder Russians at the expense of peace.

(19:32):
And now that's fine, that's their little pet project murdering Russians.
But you know, they don't want to they don't want
to talk about the fact that this country is flooded
by Ukrainians. But they're fine with that, but they're problem
with six thousand South Africans coming over. It's just it's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, speaking of Starmer, did did he not resigdne the
other day out?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Indeed, John, there's no more cure Starmer. He's well, he's
still a member of parliament, but he's a long well
he's still the prime minister election September. I think, yeah, exactly,
But he's he's he's like, he's like, I'm in America.
I've resigning in three years? What the heck is that?

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Right? That? What a fraud she was? Oh man, I
can't get rid of this people fast.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Enough.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
No, for sure, these people living I mean, I mean,
look at Europe, I mean, look at look at the
United Kingdom. I mean, they've ran these nations into a
living and it's a decade after decade for crying out loud,
and now people are rising, wising up. And it's like,
think about in the UK, you post them on social media,
they put you in prison if you go, you know,
have a grooming game and go rape a bunch of
young girls. All of a sudden you get protected.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, because they don't want to be labeled racist. That's
that's the story I hear behind it.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
That's exactly what happened. I've been talking about this for
her fifteen years. This story, this is not new. It's
suddenly got the attention it should have been getting for
the past fifteen years because a few popular accounts got
onto it and a few politicians finally got behind it. No,
this this has been These grooming gangs been going on
in the UK for years and especially in the Midlands.
And what they did is they would go after young
girls eleven twelve years old and who parents were poor parents.

(21:00):
What I mean by that is their pathetic parents in
the standpoint they didn't parrot very well, not that they wealth.
They typically came from lower income families. But that wasn't
the reason these girls were grim. They were grim because
their parenting wasn't taking place. Single parent families or both
parents ridiculous, not doing their job and watching out for
their child. And they would come after these girls, and
they would recruit them, and they apply them with alcohol
and then drugs, and they'd take them as sex slaves.

(21:22):
And so they did. They'd pimp them, they'd sold them around,
stoleing their innocence, still their innocence, impregnating them, affecting them
and destroying their lives. And this happened to Now suppose
that a quarter million girls has happened to that's a
much larger number than I re knew. And this went
out for years, and the police refused the reports. When
some parents tried to report it, who found out about it,
who actually cared about their kids, they were called racist

(21:43):
by the police. The police were afraid to be called racists,
and instead of doing their job, they allowed this. These
people should be imprisoned for what they allowed to happen
to these young women. It's shocking, It's absolutely shocking. It's
I mean it's and it's so pervasive. It happened for
so long that they get away with impuny. You know
you mentioned and being arrested for social media. Over twelve
thousand British citizens are currently in prison for social media comments.

(22:06):
That's about eleven thousand, eight hundred more than are in
Chinese communist prisons for social media. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Wow, you know where we fear communists China for chridic
lou Jiz and Ping and all this stuff. And all
of a sudden you have Kur Starmer over here tossing
his people in their left and right, laughing at us.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
You know, it's my understanding. The dark web has Facebook.
You can access Facebook off the dark Web and the
reason why it's set up that way because you can
do it under the radar. Basically create a fake account.
Nobody knows that you and you can say what you
want to say on social media.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Well, they'll come after you if they can get access
to it. It doesn't matter where it's at. These people
are demonic. They you can be arrested for giving offense.
So they've arrested Christian preachers for spreading the gospel in
Hyde Park. Yet they allow Muslims to invade the Church
of England grounds and pray during the day and t
affict during they is it's not insulting to Christianity or

(23:03):
to Christians or just younger people. Now, anything that offends
anyone who's Muslim or anyone who's brown, you'll get arrested
for in the UK, never mind offending someone who's Christian
or white, who's actually an indigenous population of the islands. Now,
is this whole thing is upside down? These people are.
I don't understand what their problem is. They're so obsessed
by this cult of racism because they're actually racist and

(23:25):
they don't see it. That's the problem, the racist against
their own people.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, fools. I mean it's evil. It's pure evil. It's
evil in the world. It's evil incarnate, I think. I mean,
it's you know, it's in the flesh here it is
and people don't see it. I don't quite understand. And
people that are afraid to stand up, they're like, you know,
I'm afraid to go speaking a school board because I
have kids in the school. It's like, that's the time
whenever you should be speaking up. If you fear going
and speaking up to a legislative body. You know, maybe

(23:51):
you don't shouldn't send your kids that school district for
crying out loud. You shouldn't have fear of speaking up
to an elected official or an elective body for crying
out loud. And of course you should have fear to vote.
Get bad people out for front out loud.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Well, one of my viewers asked the question in the
chat about you know, so, why are they bank rolling
Islamis groups. It's very simple. It's the same approach the
Nazis took. The National Socialist Workers Party or Germany allied
itself with Muslims in the Middle East to destroy Jews.
So they allied themselves. This is the Arthur Shastra. This
is geopolitics and play. You align yourself with the enemy

(24:23):
of your enemy to destroy your enemy, and once your
enemy is gone, then you eat the other one. And
that's what they'll do. Except what they don't realize is
the sorous and they're like the leftist will be consumed
by the out population is taking place as they're bred
out of existence by the Islamis groups. That's that's what
they don't understand is that they've they've they they are
playing with fire, and they don't realize it because they're

(24:43):
too stupid to realize it.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh, they think they're safe. They don't care, right, they're okay,
So they don't care about the rest of us.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Well, that's true. They definitely don't care about the rest
of us. We see that each and every day, and
that includes most of the people in Washington, d C.
They are very few pots left in DC, and now
we've got even fewer. Did you see what's going to
happen there? The Democrats Zoran the Mora and back three
of his leftist, socialist, anti American, anti Semitic, Jew hating scumbags,
And now they're going to be Democratic candidates in the
fall in Democratic districts and they'll wind up in Congress,

(25:15):
and the squad will be larger. This country is about
to be stolen from us, and people don't realize that.
Twenty twenty eight is very scary.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's what we keep saying. You got to get out there, people,
You've got to get out and vote. You've got to
be part of the process. And if you feel like
your vote doesn't matter, listen, don't sit at home and
not vote because you feel like he doesn't matter. Because
you're just giving it to them. At least make them
work for it. But you just make them to have
to work hard to steal elections.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, absolutely, for sure.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Well they do work, they do work hard to steal
elections already.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
But I mean if you just sit on your haunches,
they don't have to work so hard. So yeah, it's
very important, and I don't think people understand it. You know,
like I said, Democrats, I'm not talking to you. Sit
at home, enjoy yourselves. Take the day off with the.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
You're your election, that you're election the day after, right, Yeah,
that's right, I'm getting. I'm getting. But no, but you
think about you Republicans that I've heard conservatives for years
and think about it. I call it barbershop talk, you know,
going to the barbershop as a kid, getting your your
haircut or whatever. People talk about. Well, I just won't vote.
You know, they're gonna put in who they want anyway,

(26:25):
the big conspiracy theories, and you know it's like the
reason the bad guy got elected county commissioner by ten votes.
It's called ten people like you stayed at home, you know,
and you're you're you're complaining, you said at home. The
bad guy got elected for cred of letter. That's how
they got elected in New York. Also, people that flee
flee these cities and flee these territories, uh you know,
thinking that they're they're doing themselves a service. It's like

(26:45):
you're just allowing the cesspel to take over a given
geographic location like New York.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
But I think that's working in New York because all
the rich people are leaving with all their socialist proof.
Expected thirty four thousand people to support the City of
New York with taxes and stuff. Thirty four thousand there
looking out of the very affluent people, and those are
the ones that went to Florida and move into town.
I don't know if you realize or not, but uh,
oh crap. Goldman, yeah, Goldman Sachs is it is looking

(27:12):
to start diversifying out in New York City. They're looking
at Dallas, Texas now, and so a lot of these
large corporate entities are looking at New York City and go,
you're not just going to turn the screws to us.
We can vote with our feet, hello, you know. So
they're going to play and Texas is a degron estate
in the Union right now for this, I mean so

(27:32):
many businesses. Where did Ela Muscow when he decided to
vacate California, you know, Texas smart?

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah, any think you don't need I mean as far
as Wall Street for credit line, you can do Wall
Street anywhere in the world. Wall Street's just the colloquialism
at this point. You don't have to be in a
geographic location to do any trading. For crid out louts.
Most trading is done you know all you know, not
even in New York. Most trading is done online or
through other means for crying out loud, other other locations.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
It isn't if they want to say things up in Dallas.
They could actually bring that bell in Dallas just as
much as they can. I mean, you got you got
you gotta trading in LA right now?

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Right most of a symbolic in New York at this point.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, I think so so Yeah, I don't know, man,
I think this is blowing up. Uh. Mom, Donnie was
approached about this, I believe from the governor Holkum Uh
had approached him and talked to him about this. This
this listen, We're not we're not giving you all this
money and doing all these things you want to do
because we're losing our people. And she's literally on a
world stage begging for millionaires to come back, saying, we

(28:35):
need your taxes, you know, so we can support our
social programs. Now, what kind of what kind of response
is that you know, you're begging now for them to
come back. They went away for a reason, lady, you
better fix your policies if you want them to come back.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And unfortunately that means less taxes, right absolutely. And there's
so much that that New York could offer to people
who would want to live there. I mean there's a
lot to the city for crying out loud, I mean
a lot of history there. Uh, you know, so why
why wouldn't you want to live there? I mean, I mean,
your your government shouldn't be the reason why you don't
want to live somewhere for crying outline, your government should't
do everything they can to have to make you want

(29:12):
to live there, you know, Uh, lower crime for crying
out loud, ensuring that your first you have good first responders,
good government, low taxes or reasonable taxes for crying out loud,
low fees for things, and and basically a good climate
for business if you will, especially if you want to
start a mom and pop small business for crying out loud.
But New York is not that for crying out loud.
It's not that. It's it's not going to be that

(29:33):
unless you change your policies, like you just said.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
If you look at the state of New York, I
think a lot of it really is read. Not New
York City now, a lot of New York Upper State
is predominantly read. So it's once again it's a shining
example of how the smaller area of being populated as
it is can influence the rest of the state.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Oh, absolutely for sure. Tonight I think, as I said
before the before the show heard on there is that
Trump's gonna be what opening the what the America's state
Fair or something like that. What was that what it's called?
I don't state Fair, Great America state Fair.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
I think it is, uh that opens So is this
on the National National Mall?

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, in the National Mall. I think that kicks off
tonight or is it tomorrow or something like that.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I'm not sure on that one, but yeah, I had
actually forgotten about that. Getting back to the reflect reflecting
pool there they uh, the company that laid that said
they're gonna have to drain the pool now and fix
what's been damaged. They said, it's not a whole lot
of damage there. They can fix it. And unfortunately, what
that means is they're going to be exceeding the July

(30:46):
fourth holiday.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
I think, man, okay, yeah, but I'm going to But
also I was reading somewhere that they took a filter
off where they fill it, and I heard conflicting reports
of the water that they use, whether it's DC tap
water or whether it was from the from the Potomac,
and and and I heard it was DC tap water,
and then all of a sudden they said it was

(31:07):
from the Potomac, which was, you know, rife with algae
balloon so I'm not sure. I thought it was a
DC tapwater that they used.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Dude, that thing was like six point seventy five million
gallons worth of water, right, So I think they took
of big heavy pumps pulling it out of the Potomac.
And yeah, you're right, they were. That's that's the claims.
As they were pulling out of the Potomac and filled
it out of there, and you think they would have
went through a filtration system. You know, we were talking
about algae growths and stuff, and I do have a

(31:36):
swimming pull at home. Yeah, thirty thousand gallons worth. And
that algae grows fast.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Oh for sure, especially in a lowers. You know, it's
a shallow body of water. It's a large body of water,
but it's shallow, and of course it gets so warm
for crying out loud, and algae just loves shallow warm water.
And of course it was it was easy to to
have with algae growth for crying out loud, but without
a filtration system that can handle it, you know, you're

(32:03):
gonna have algae blooms, especially if the water came from
the Potomac, which I'm not sure of.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
So okay. The Great American State Fair kicks off Thursday,
June twenty fifth, twenty twenty sixth, running daily through Friday
July tenth, twenty twenty six I got some friends going
to go down there before too long. They're going to
have a really good time down there.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, absolutely, for sure. You said it runs through wind.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
July tenth, Okay, right in July tenth, So yeah, that's
gonna be big doings. I think, nice celebrations down there
for the nation's two hundred and fiftieth birthday, So yeah,
kind of jealous. No, I'm not going I know what
ten four on DC happens October down there, but it's
going to be long past the fair. So even if

(32:48):
I make that event, I don't know. That's kind of
a bad time of a year for me to be running.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
To d C.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Right, that's for sure, busy busy season for you.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Well, this is my busy season, and I got to
work it a bit I can. And unfortunately I just
blew a fuel injector in the truck yesterday, So I
am down again. What's going on here? Not during busy season?
This does does not or should not happen during busy season.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Gotcha, gotcha? So if anybody who's wondering you can't can't see,
Oh there's colonel he's back. He stepped away for a minute.
He's a little under the weather, but he's back here.
For those who are watching those on the radio wondering
why he wasn't speaking, he stepped away for a moment.
So I apologize for not mentioning that Colonel Chris White,
he has returned, Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, that's a tough It's a tough buggy got there, Chris.
It looks to me the way you're coughing and stuff,
it looks to me I had that, and I still
kind of get that dry cough every now and again.
It's it's been lingering.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I'm not I don't have the cold of flu anymore,
but that cough is horrible.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Actually, haven't been coughing all that much. I've been coughing
more now on the air. I turned the microphone off.
Then I've coughed probably the past couple of days. That
wasn't the issue. I had to step aside for something else.
But yeah, no, it's uh yeah, it's it's not a cough.
It's just a congestion. It's mostly gone, but it's it's
still a little bit there. It's kind of lingering. So yeah, yeah,
So did we get to President Trump, you know, pushing

(34:11):
the nuclear button here? He's you know, the the Senate
voted the resolution to tell him to withdraw from Iran,
and his response is pretty clear today. He's threatening to
veto the housing bill that was just overwhelming passed by
the House and Senate if they don't pass the Save Act.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Right, Yeah, Yeah, I saw that too. Yeah, that's that
sounds kind of crazy, but a little bit of a
bullyish But at the same time, I guess it's within
his power where they got to get two thirds vote
to override his veto.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Two thirds they got away thirty days, and if he
doesn't sign it thirty days, then they can get veto it.
But they can override his veto. But if he doesn't
veto it, if he doesn't sign, if he doesn't veto
within thirty days, then it automatically goes back to them,
So they'll have to they'll have to override, but they're
not going to get two thirds of the vote in
the House and the Senate to override the president on anything,
so and they can just forget that idea. So I
think it's Greaty said today's Housing news conference. Signing is

(35:04):
hereby canceled until such time as we have desperately needed
Save America Act, which I consider be a national emergency,
and thank you for attention. In other words, if you
don't fix voting so that we secure elections, I'm not
going to sign this housing build the housing bills ridiculous anyway,
it interferes in the capitalist market. By blocking people from
owning more than three hundred and fifty individual homes, which
raised the question, what about home builders? They owned thousands

(35:26):
of homes, what happens to them? I guess that's an exemption.
But this is trying to target people like Blackrock and
others who have been buying individual houses because they think
it's driving up the cost of homes. And the reason
that cost to homes gone up is because the cost
of building has gone up. It's doubled. While the government
lied to us about inflation during the Biden years, but
the price has been pretty consistent since then. I haven't
seen any inflation taking place for the most part, and

(35:47):
the things that I buy. And in fact, you know,
petroleum is now lower per barrel, per cost per barrel
than it was before Trump went into Iraq ninety days ago.
Isn't that interesting time?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah, that isn't interesting. I said it was going to
be you know, through the rough. You know, record prices.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
A barrel, remember that, And now now the cost of oil.
It was seventy nine dollars a barrel the day that
he went after a rod. Today it's under seventy dollars
a barrel. It's ridiculous. Yep.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
They they do this every time, don't they. It's always
this fear, you know, promoting fear among people and trying
to drive people emotionally. But it's to my understanding, Trump's
also ordering the Department just Justice to do some investigating
on some of these oil producers, thinking that they're price gouging,
because he's saying, look, we got the oil prices down,

(36:34):
there's no reason they're not coming down at the pumps
more than they already have, and so he's a little
upset with them, and he's ordering investigations. From my understanding,
or according to what he posted on true Social but they.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Will go down. It's not like they go down immediately
just because you've got a lot of you know, frouduct
going through the straits of removes. It takes a while
before it to go processing and before.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, yeah, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago.
We said that it's not it's always a process. When
the market corrects itself again, it seems like it goes
down a little slower than it went up.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Right, It's just natural. That's not unusual. I mean, the
problem here is that the oil was already over priced
to seventy nine dollars a barrel. With the production the
United States producing over sixteen million barrels of oil equivalent
a day. In Saudi Aba with eleven million, were more
than meeting one hundred and four million barrels of a
day that the world needed, and so we had a
supply of oil that was more that was needed, and

(37:29):
so seventy nine was a bit high in my view.
I think it's much more natural price for oil be
trading in the fifty to sixty dollars range, which is
where it's headed at the moment. We'll see if it
gets there, but I'm not going to predict that. But
the bottom line is there is a lag. It is
an instantaneous just because the price of oil goes down.
That is oil. You know, we're talking about futures, you know,
oil being purchased in the future. So that doesn't necessarily
mean that the oil that's loaded in the tankers being

(37:50):
pumped out and sipped through refinings right now was purchased
for that price. So of course there's going to be
a lag. I think a lot of people don't allow
for that. You got to be realistic, realize it takes
three to four weeks for that stuff to work its
way out. So I think a lot of people don't
realize that. And it's understandable when you've been paying a
lot of the pump that you want the price go down.
I know I'd like to seek it down too, but
typically there's a lag, so they just have to allow

(38:11):
for that. But the funny thing is that oil, the
price of gasoline in America has come down for six
consecutive weeks, six weeks in the summertime. We're entering summer,
when the price of oil goes up because demand goes
up for it and so the supply is more scarce.
Yet the price of gasoline has come down for six
consecutive weeks. Now we're nowhere near the price was when
Trump took office, but we're getting there.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, it's kind of interesting, but it was. We already
paid our summer prices during the spring. But yeah, it
should be coming down all below the wall, I mean,
considering the season and stuff, because it was so high.
But then again, you got off figure. Some of these
countries got to restock the reserves, right, I mean, I

(38:53):
know the United States, we depleted a lot of our reserves.
It wasn't much talked about, but we did deplete a
lot of our reserves trying to keep the it's more
affordable for people, so that's got to be restocked. So
that's gonna be a little competition to keep the market up. However,
we should see some relief in the future too, because
the Guitar promised to amp up their production levels. They

(39:13):
broke away from Opek and decided that they were going
to start manufacturing as they see fit. I don't think
they want to double their production if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Yeah, well we'll see what happens with the production there
where they they pulled off. But we are the world's
largest energy producer, largest oil producer, and among the world's
largest snatch liquid natural energy look finatural gas producers. We
are right up there with Cutar and Nigeria. So yeah,
it's uh plenty of energy. We're washing energy, So you
know that's interesting. I still someone's coming my chat talking

(39:48):
about ColdFusion and out they're holding back the technology. Well,
you know, they can deliver the technology. It's not going
to release us from the use of oil. Oil goes
into plastics, it goes into food, it goes into medicine.
It goes into everything that we consume and use every day.
So there will still be oil drilling and oil use
into the future because there's no substitute for it in
many respects. But people seem to lose sight of that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Absolutely, So I got I got a question real quick.
It's a what is your assessment? And this is for
you two. John on the races in New York, and
I hear a lot of stuff from different you know,
political commentators. Uh Tavis Smiley as an example. Also, Leticia
James up in New York is calling out the candidates,
these socialist candidates that beat the Democrat establishment. Is a

(40:33):
Democrat party going to eat itself and tire itself apart
before the midterms? Uh or And this is this go
bode well for Republicans in the midterms with with the
divide that they have.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Well, I think what it means is that these people
in majority Democrat districts are going to wind up in
Congress and they're raving lunatics who hate American and jew
haters who need to be you know, consigned to dust
in history. But ultimately I've predicted this some time, the
Democratic Party is going to have a schism, and it's
going to split. Eventually, There'll be some adults room say
I can't be part of this, and the party is

(41:04):
simply going to split. Either the radicals will form their
own party, or you know, let's just call themselves a
Progressive Party of America. Ppa do if they just do
that and break away, and then all these linages to
go away and people see them for what they are.
But the Democrats have destroyed themselves by allowing this insurrection
to occur in their ranks. And the thing is is
that not enough Americans realize it. And the problem is

(41:25):
that by the time people realize the danger, it's too late.
We've already seen it. California is off a cliff. We've
seen what's happened out there with the radical stuff. New
York is losing billions of dollars in revenue because wealthy
people are leaving the city and people are not migrating
there anymore because they don't appreciate what's happening there. So
I think that's just going to be a disaster. You know.
And people think that the sun, the sun is brighter,

(41:47):
the grass is greener elsewhere, Well, it's only brighter and
greener if you do the right thing, and moral people
are elected, But we keep electing retards who are thieves
and racists and bigots and liars on both sides the spectrum,
and until we start electing honest people, is going to
be the path this country's on. And it's not a good,
good destination. It's not a route that I want to be.
I want to get off this train the way it's going.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
You also got to consider, you know, we talk about
the twenty twenty election and theft of elections, and it's
like I was saying to the wife here recently, you know,
and we keep saying it. They don't just cheat elections
for presidents. You know the reason why some of these
people are still getting in there. You got to question yourself,
why did Nancy Pelosi get re elected so many times?
I mean, she's inept, she's incompetent, yet she got it.

(42:30):
She gets elected every time.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Why.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I mean, some people will vote to the incoming because
they like to know that the person that they voted
for are empowered. But she wasn't. Somebody I just can't
fathom why people in California would keep voting around. I
understand it is san Francisco.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, And here's the thing. It's not about being the
best Candidate's about being the most flexible person. And I'm
using kind of air quotes on flexibility that you're going
to band a certain way to the people who give
you the money, and that's what they want. And I
remember I've been to DC and of course I twenty
eighteen a set of ran for Congress twenty twenty. I
had exploratory committee for a period of time. I went
to DC and went to a number of organizations, you know,

(43:08):
looking for support, went to a number of members of
Congress that and I got, you know, meetings with some
of the people looking for endorsement, support whatever I could get.
And you know, they're like, we like you on paper.
You're a great candidate. You speak well, and you know
you have a mastery of the issues that you that
you're championing. But that's not going to necessarily win you
when you support or win you money if you will. Yeah,
you may win some votes in your district, but to

(43:30):
get the big support, you need to be more flexible
a different way. And that's what I was told. I said,
you need to be noncommittal on certain things. But at
the same time, be very open to anything that they
want to throw your way. And that's how you're going
to get the support.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Not the words. You need to be there. They need
to be their boy.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Right And now now the person who I had assisted
me in this, this is what they were telling me,
by the way, and they're like, listen, I'm not telling
you to sell yourself out, your morals, your values or anything.
It says, but be very flexible on most things. You
don't have to commit anything, but be very open on
most things. And they threw out all kinds of stuff
and it was like stuff that I would definitely not
be flexible on, you know, but and I disagreed on

(44:11):
a lot of things, and they're like, well, we appreciate
you coming in. A lot of meetings were cut short
because I was inflexible on several things. So to get
to get into office. Sometimes it's not about the best Canada,
the best person, best ideas. It's about being the most
flexible person or or morally compromisable person.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
In short, it's what the party wants. And if you're
not willing to go with what the party wants, then
they're not going to support you well.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
And it's it's it's the organizations, it's big packs. Also,
it's people in leadership as well. They want somebody who's
going to be, you know, backing them and pushing them. Mean,
think about it. You get the leadership because people like
you and a supports you. But what happens when those
those members of Congress, House, Senate leave office or whatever?
You need to replenish that supply. And of course a
lot of times they want people to sign on a

(44:54):
blank check if you will to blindly support them for leadership,
for this or that. And if you're not willing to
do that, not even gonna bother to support you. Their
packs won't support you.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
So yeah, you get what you call powerbrokers, right right.
They developed these big bat packs like McConnell did. And
now he takes his pack money. He runs over here
and says, mister bulldock, let's have a conversation. Oh, you
won't be backing me on this, Oh you won't be
backing me on that one. I'm going to take my
pack money in my suitcase and I'm going home. And
so yeah, yeah, so you don't get the backing of

(45:23):
party members because you're not willing to back them on
their agendas, right.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
And I got in front of Rampaul's people, uh and
just sat down with them, and they were like, you know,
the person who uh, one of the persons who was
helping me, who got me that meeting, uh, you know,
says they speak very highly of you, We like you.
And they said, have they told you that that to
get support in this town, you got to be very flexible?
And I said, oh, absolutely, and he said the guy
was talking to me, he said, here, we don't really

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care about you being inflexible or flexible whatever. We want
to know that you that you're going to stand up
and be principal, even whenever it's going to hurt you politically.
And I said I had no problem with that, and
and so obviously I didn't end up running. But but
that was the only group that actually said we want
you to stand up and basically be moral and all
this and that we don't care. You know, We're not
going to try to make you go one way or

(46:10):
the other. We want you to be principal and stand
up and have a spine if you will. That was
the only group but I spoke to that that said that.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Did they talk about constitutional rights and things like that follow.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Right, Yeah, we got into things like that for sure.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah. Yeah, Do you happen to remember the name of
that group, because that seems like it's worth mentioning off
the top of my head.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I can't, I can't, I can't think of it. I
think it was just pack that he had. I can't
think about it. But a lot of the other groups
they would say up front, like, you know, whenever you
leave here, we would like maybe ask that you don't
talk about what we discussed. They didn't ask me to
sign anything. But but but his group, Ram Paul's group
was the only one that says, we don't care if
you go talk about whatever we do here. You know,
we don't have a problem with that. They said. A

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lot of groups will tell you, you know, we would
like you not to go talk about it, which is
you know, par for the course.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I guess in DC, I still like Paul. I know
he's not a he's not a Trump favorite. He he
does not support Trump, and.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
I get against the president in that bill. He's one
of fifty who voted to sanction or censor the president
for a run.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah, I appreciate Ran Paul for his mindset for liberties
and freedoms. Politics is starting to take a different turn
in my opinion. I don't think he's being sensible uncertain
matters like what you're talking about there, Chris, You know,
voting against the president just be I think to be
spiteful more than it is about principles.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Well, speaking of spiteful people. In New York's twelve congressional district,
which which the Mitchell Mika Lasher won that thing, mister
Kelly and Conway, George Conway, the Trump hater the during
trumpeter was running that race. Let's see, his vote total
was six and twelve votes, or six point one percent
of the vote total in the Democratic primary. Wow, six

(47:58):
point one percent. Yeah, so loser. That guy who hates
Trump made his life about going on on MSNBC and
CNN and hating Trump and lying about Trump. So that's
Kelly and Conway's husband. It just shows you that not
everyone makes good decisions in life. I don't know what
her problem was, but she picked the wrong one. Are
not the ones with that wacky child too? Their daughter's
a lunatic as well.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
M I don't know about that. I don't know they
have a kid. I'm not sure, I thought that crazy.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Definitely, he's a nutterer for sure, but six six point
one percent.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
He thought he was going to get elected because that's
the seat that he was one issue. Yeah he was,
well Trump, Well it's uh so that's the seat that
the penguin Jerry Nadler is vacating. Wow. Yeah, so Jerry
Nadler finally leaving Congress after being a liar for thirty
years in Congress. So good to see him go. Yeah,
Kelly and Conway's husband is done. You know, these people

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are in crazy. I mean, if you guys see the
latest John with with Rashida Talib, I mean, this lunatic
is upset that a bunch of terrorists were convicted. And
here's the irony. She's standing up for all whites, well
mostly whites. On one looks like he's part Asian, Hispanic,
but the rest are all white. These are terrorists, they
were part of Antifa, and they got sentenced to a
lot of jail time.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Four years combined.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Yeah, she's losing her mind over Yeah. The one guy
got a hundred years, the one who shot the police
officer on the shoulder. Then that was Benjamin Song, so
I guess he's the Asian Zachary Evatt's Autumn Hill. Savannah
Batt and Elizabeth Soto and Megan Morris were all sentenced
to fifty years, while Marcella Rudella got seventy years convicted
of riot, providing materials support to terrorists, exposed to charges

(49:35):
and she received just conviction for corruptly conceiling a documented record.
And this is what Rashida Talleeb said. These sentences are
travesty and totally adjustified. But that's the point. Americans hate
the fascist Trump regime, so the only way they can
try to clean the power is brute force is a
grave threat to all of us. And more BS terrorism
charges like this are coming. Bs. These people sought to
overthrow the US government. They shot a federal law enforcement officer.

(49:57):
They're terrorists, and she needs to be removed from Congress.
She's censored for this.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, uh no, yeah, it was. I believe seven of
them that were arrested four hundred years combined in their
sentencing and for all the crimes that they've committed. And
it's about time we're starting to hear some more of
Antipha members being arrested for their crimes that they have committed.
You know, it's funny in Jay six when guys went
into the Capitol building invited by cops, unarmed and just

(50:23):
kind of entered around and toured the place for a while,
they were classified as insurrectionists, right, and got the worst
of the worst thrown at him. And so these seven
guys who actually committed crimes that are verifiable and prosecutable
and have been and so now of a suddenly she's
going to they're in victims of the justice system. You know,
it's like, come on, lady, get get a grip.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Now look this, this, this
or sheated to leave as a lenatics. She needs to
be censured and removed from Congress. I mean, they need
to remove from Congress. Sees long overdue. You know, remember
that she ran on election a few years back, and
we're going to get the mother effort. We're gonna impeach
the mother effort. That's the basis running for office and
any idiot to vote for in Michigan, Shaman, you're not

(51:07):
a patriot. You don't love America, you hate this country.
So just get that out. Canada is just a few
swims away, a few backstrokes. You can find a way
to Canada from from Michigan.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Slide on across, or just walk across the bridge.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
You don't want to swim, I prefer they burn a
few calories on the way there.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, I'm with you. It's okay. I mean the water's
a little cold. If you make it, you make it,
you don't, you don't, that's up to you.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Well, that's the other aspect of that'll make it. That's
just too bad on them.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
That's right. So on that happy note, ladies and gentlemen,
we have reached the top of the hour, so we're
gonna take a quick break here and give you a
chance to catch up on some news and a little
bit of advertisements and all that good stuff. So we'll
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(52:06):
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I don't know if you guys heard it now, but
Bertie Sanders apparently is making accusations that now that you know,
Elon Musk is a trillionaire and as a trillionaire. He

(52:29):
only pays no security the sum of somebody who makes
one hundred and eighty four thousand dollars a year, and
his bill will rectify that and then he can pay
his fair share into social security and all this other nonsense.
But I'm thinking, and I think, Chris, you understand when
it comes to higher finance and Elon Musk, he's a
trillionaire on paper. He's not a trillionaire as in, he

(52:52):
doesn't take home trillions of dollars into his personal bank account.
It's not It doesn't work that way for him.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
No, Bernie Sanders is a moronic piece of human sewage
that should be taken out and horsewhipped on a daily
basis for public consumption. He's a moron of the highest order,
an absolute idiot who went to the Soviet Union during
the Cold War to celebrate his honeymoon. That tells y'all
you need to know about Bernie Sanders. He's a multimillionaire
who rails against wealth, who's accumulated wealth illegitately, having never

(53:22):
worked a single job in his life. He's been living
off the taxpayer's teat his entire life. His first job
was as mayor of a city in Vermont at the
age of in his thirties, mid thirties. He never held
a job in his life. He's never done a thing.
He's a piece of human sludge. I don't care what
Bernie Sanders has to say. His value, his opinion, has
no value whatsoever. The guy's a clown. Yes, Elon Musk
is not a trillionaire. He doesn't have a trillion dollars

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the bank it's wealth and his company lost six hundred
billion in value in one day. This is just ephemeral.
It's just ridiculous. Elon Musk sold his Tesla stock a
portion of it a few years ago and got forty
two billion dollars in income. And for that income, he
paid thirteen billion dollars in federal income tax in a
single year, more money than any American has ever paid

(54:04):
an the entire history of this country in income tax
in one year. He paid in one year, and as
far as SOID Security tax. These scumbags in Congress set
up this Ponzi scheme, and the Ponzi scheme limits the
amount of money that can go into because it limits
the amount of money you can draw out of the
Ponzi scheme. So your capped. I don't know what the
current cap is, but it was like used to be
like one hundred and twelve thousand than like one hundred
and eighteen thousand dollars a year, and you can come

(54:26):
over that. You can't earn credits towards soial security, so
you're not taxed on it because it does contribute. Because
this is not supposed to be a tax on the rich.
It was supposed to be a retirement account. Now Bernie
Sanders can shove this three ways to Sunday. I'm so
sick of these idiots who are elected to Congress to
steal money out of our pockets and lie and mislead
the roofs out there. SO Security is a Ponzi scheme

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that is bankrupt, that has had any money, that is
taking money from current taxes coming in and is taking
more money, and we're borrowing money to pay off people
receiving security already today, I will not receive my full
soci security benefit when I retire fully under SO security
because first off hasway two extra years and by the
time that happens at twenty thirty two, then it won't
be there. Only seventy eight percent of brund we there

(55:07):
because this scam that they set up, and this is
what they're coming for. Elon Musk shouldn't be paying anything
in Social Security, none of us should. It's a fraud.
It's a fraud. It's a fraud, and it's time for
people to start realizing this and stop this nonsense. Elon
Musk deserves his wealth. He's created four thousand, four hundred
millionaires from one initial public offering alone. So all these

(55:28):
crying little babies like you know Bernie Sanders with his
four houses and his illicit gains, and you know Nancy
Pelosi with one hundred and eighty four million dollars illicit
gains from visus doc because she's a fraud. I'm sick
of them. They can just go somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Absolutely. But it's not just Bernie Sanders. That's the thing
of it. The Bluffiest Party itself feeds into this sort
of ideals and they chant this all the time, and
so they look at people like Elon Musk and they
call it an opportunity. Let's tell everybody this guy's really
a trillionaire and try to get people on the roop.
So we're going to screw them over. But what people

(56:01):
don't realize is they use these sorts of angles to
get you to buy into the cage you're going to
be fitted for. So when you when they pass these
bills or passing bills are actually not beneficial to you
in the long run. And somebody like Ela Musco's go
ahead and pass. It doesn't affect me because I only
pay according to what I draw out. And if I'm
drawing nothing, because I got plenty to live on for

(56:21):
the rest of my life, what I've already drawn out,
then I don't pay into it. Good luck.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
It's a Ponzi scheme. There's nothing there. There's no money
in it. There's no lock box. It's all just digits,
zero zin ones. It's it's it's fiat. It's just garbage.
It's nothing. There is nothing tangible there. You cannot you
cannot leave your soial security account to your children. If
it were a tangiset you could do that. It's not
a tangiblasse set. So it's just nonsense, and it's the

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country's been hoodwinked since the nineteen thirties, right.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Yeah, if it was something like that, if I passed
away prematurely that money should be able to carry over
to somebody. The fact is it doesn't and leads me
didn't know that it's upon this game for sure.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
It's a pool. Basically, they're saying you pining to this
big pool that they decide how they're going to divvy
it out, that they extract from for other reasons. And
if you were a corporate entity, a business for profit,
they would call you a god misappropriation of funds. They
accused you of funds like Enron, and then turn around
and try to prosecute you. But when the government does it,

(57:27):
it's just doing government business right, And.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
They held a large voting block captive by doing this.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
In nineteen thirteen, the income tax was introduced. It was
supposed to be just under rich. It was a cap
at five hundred thousand dollars in income. It was only
seven percent tax. Five years later the top rate was
seventy seven percent. That was what they did with think
of text. Until John F. Kennedy became present, the top
rate of taxation was over ninety percent. I think it
was ninety three percent, and JFK of all people, a Democrat,

(57:55):
lowered the income tax rate and they just basically confiscated.
So a tax system was set up in which people
held onto the money and they didn't spend it, because
what's the point of earning more money You're just going
to be taxed on it. So that money went into
buying assets, which accumulated in value, and that's how they
made money by having assets, and so it froze up
a large chunk of the economy. These people are stupid.

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This money has just allowed the government to expand and expand, expand.
Social Security is nothing but a ponzi scheme. It's a
way to steal money. In nineteen eighties, the Reagan administration
a tip O'Neil in a Fauastian deal. Double the rate
of taxation, double the rate of taxation and social Security.
So now you pay six point two five percent of
your income out of your pay up to a threshold

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of just over one hundred thousand dollars, and your employer
matches that. So without that contribution to Social Security, which
is a ponzi scheme, you could potentially have an income
of at least twelve and a half percent more. Your
employer could pay you twelve and a half percent more
that wouldn't go to that and people don't even realize this.
They don't see this because the money disappears from the
check before they ever ever get it. And at least
with income tax, they see, oh, I'm going to get

(58:57):
something back, or you know, this is what I'm paying,
But what so you don't get anything back. In fact,
we're paying people who've never ever paid in a soci security.
People come to this country, never paid a penny in
SO security and they're getting benefits from it. That's not
what SO security is meant for. It was not meant
to be welfare. It was not meant to be a
disability fund. But they've created the SO Security disability pay
for people who never worked and are disabled and get

(59:18):
a check from it. That money should have come from
somewhere else. What they've done is remember when Bill Clinton
supposedly balanced the budget, he and and of course you know,
you know newt Gingrits, what a scam that was. Instead
of balancing buzzs, they have three hundred and sixty eight
billion dollar surplus in one year, three hundred and sixty
eight billion dollar surplus, and a SOB security fund. They
took that money and they spent half of it in

(59:40):
the general revenue and the rest they put down as well.
We had one hundred and sixty eight billion dollar surplus.
There was no surplus. You stole the money from so security.
There's nothing there. If you left the money there and
actually bought assets like like rare earth minds or property,
or or a country like Greenland, you know, maybe.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
There'd be something. But there's nothing.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
There's nothing there. It's all fiction and it's all going
to come crashing down when you look at the total
actual debt that this country owes. When you take unfunded
pension liabilities, you take the debt from the national government,
the state, the local governments, city governments. You throw on
corporate debt and personal consumer debt, and then the biggest
one mortgage finance debt. This country owes well over two

(01:00:20):
hundred trillion dollars, possibly as much as three hundred train dollars.
We can that's ten years of GDP will never pay
that off At the rate we're going. This is ridiculous.
It needs to be turned around.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Right it is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
And the deck keeps climbing. The deck clocks there are
just tacking away.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Yeah, but that's just one fraction of it. That's what
people see that forty trillion dollars that's the federal debt
is just a piece of it. You've got states that
ow debt. You've got municipalities that o debt. You've got
corp You've got you got these taxes and municipal bonds
that are used to finance water works and gas works
and streets and highways and schools and things like that.
All of that is debt. Somebody has to pay that.
The money has to come from somewhere, and it's a

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lot of debt. And then the unfunded pension liabilities that
was the big problem in general mode is the reason
I had to go bank up is because they had
billions and billions and billions of dollars of people who
work for thirty years or forty years at gym and
are owed a pension and there's no money there because
they never set anything aside.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Yeah, I heard it said, you know, from somebody who
actually worked at GM, said, you can't, you know, work
somewhere for thirty years, pay them, you know, to whatever
you pay them to turn a ranch, and then pay
them another thirty years after they retired about the same price,
you know, to do nothing. It's like it's not sustainable.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Well, you can if you take a small portion of
what you would have paid them and put into something
that's going to accrue in value over time. But they
never did that. They just simply, you know, we'll pay
it off ivy And that's that's exactly what's happened with
so Security. Now they've stolen money since the nineteen eighties,
the money that was supposed to be in so Secretity.
If they'd left that money alone, we'd have tens of
trillions of dollars sitting in there. Well, but tradions of
dollars sitting there right now, they're being a shortfall. We

(01:01:48):
would have to worry about this nonsense. But it said
they stole the money and spent it all ridiculous things
like bridges to nowhere in Alaska, you know, it's it's
it's or wars in Iraq, in Afghanistan, it's ridiculous, or
bailling out. You know, all these companies like Shearson, Lehman,
all these other not Sheerson Limit, with bear Stearns bearing out,
bailing out all these corporations. It should have been allowed

(01:02:09):
to fail, all these banks, it should have been allowed to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Fail, right absolutely for sure, And they should have failed,
you know, but because of their bad decisions. Instead he said, hey,
your bad decisions in the future don't matter. You can
do whatever you play, you know, loose, and whatever you
want to do with the other people's money. And now
all of a sudden, I'm what I'm seeing, what I'm
hearing from people is some of the things that they
got away with before two thousand and eight, if you will,

(01:02:34):
is actually worse so because they got the ballouts, so
they know that they're going to get a bill out
in the future too big to fail, so it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
And who initiated this The man who just died one
hundred who people are hailing as a genius, Alan Greenspan.
He facilitated these ballouts, a man who back in the
nineteen sixties wrote against these very things, whose head was
straight on in the sixties when he was a younger man,
and said that this is not what you do. You
do not reward failure. Let these people fail and they
face the consequences. Wise, we all pay the price. And

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that's exactly the opposite of what he did. When he
became the chairman of Federal Reserve, he kept interest rates
artificially low, making credit easy, making it easy for people
who shouldn't have money to borrow money to take risks,
which put our economy in jeopardy. The whole subprime mortgage
lending situation is a consequence of the garbage that Alan
grain Span brought into this country. He was a chairman
of the Federal Reserve when that crap happened. He's responsible

(01:03:22):
for two thousand and eight. He and a host of
others in the Federal Reserve. They made this thing possible,
along with Congress and his Community Fair Housing Act, whatever
heck that thing was. That's community that stupid law that
forced people to loan money to people who are not
credit worthy, and of course they couldn't pay the loans back,
and that's what sparked ole thing, you know. And ironically,
George bush warned people when he was running for re

(01:03:44):
election two thousand and four that this was coming, and
they didn't pay attention to him. I did. I listened,
and I already knew because I knew before that, and
I said, he's right, and they didn't do anything about it.
So then when it happened, they blamed George bush Ford
and that's how we got Barack Obama because of the
two thousand and eight crisis that had nothing to do
with George Bush had everything with congres and with Alan Greenspan.
Shame on them and a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Earlier also some of the policies that they put in
place in the seventies as well led led to this.
You know, it just accumulative over the over decades.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
John what was saying, I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Was asking if you were thinking of Dodd Frank that
was one of the programs put together for lending.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
No, not DoD Frank and not TARP. And I'm talking
about the Community Community Community Reinvestment Act. That's what it was,
the Community re Investment Act that that forced people at
the loan money to people from communities that were historical
neglected black borrowers who didn't have the resources. Lots of
Black Americans have the credit history and the ability to
pay back loans, but many didn't and the banks were

(01:04:44):
forced to make loans to people who weren't credit worthy
under the Community re Investment Act. And that's what led
to the subprime market. And that's what led to the
subprime collapse, is because the people said, we didn't pay
back their loans and less than three percent of subprime
mortgages which are less than five percent of the total market,
or a response for nearly bringing back the entire global
financial system. Think about that, only a few thousand loans.

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That's how rickety this whole thing was. Because the Congress
intervened and if impacted and poison the free market. This
is what happens when these politicians get their hands on things.
I like this thing right now. Well, these corporations can
only own three hundred and fifty housands. They haven't even
thought about the repercussions, the knock on effect, this downstream
effect of what they're doing. They just think they know
what they're doing, and they don't. And Trump is right

(01:05:26):
to ignore that. I hope the thing gets vetoed.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Yeah, they take that commerce clause just a little too far,
don't they.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Well, the commerce clause has a place, but this is
it's being abused, much like the equal protection un of
the fourteenth amendmentis abused, just much much like you know,
like citizenship is being abused, you know, birthright citizenship. It's
not how it was intended.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Yeah, they stretch it to your point, you're right, it's
kind of like a cascade event, right, or event cascade.
One thing leads to another, and over time they just
keep downward spiraling, you know, building off from what they
previously built. And bad decisions beforehand lead to bad decisions today.
So I always tell people, you know that old saying,
desperate times call for desperate measures. No, no, because they

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usually lead to bad outcomes.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah, and whenever you leave Wall Street or any industry
to kind of their own devices, they're going to come
up with ways that's end up going to having a
negative compromise or I guess consequence for the rest of us.
And the course, we left Wall Street to their own
devices for I don't I don't like heavy overburdens and regulation,
but we left them to their own devices for decades
on decades people were blowing the whistles, but the regulatory

(01:06:33):
agencies did nothing, and we had a blow up. And
oh wait.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
Yeah, well the two thousand and eight financial crisis was avoidable.
This was all consequence of the government and and and
easy credit. That's the problem with people aren't credit worthy.
You give money, people aren't credit worthy, they aren't going
to pay it back, and then you shake the whole foundation.
I mean, it's like these loans and grants we give
to these these developing countries, then we give debt relief.
I mean, somebody's paying for that. You know when we

(01:06:59):
were there. You know, Venezuela just announced you have two
hundred and forty billion dollars in debt they can't pay back.
Guess what that's going to be wiped off? And who's
going to pay for that? We are because who made
the loans. Probably American banks made the loans to the
Venezuelan and Gun most likely, And so they're going to
write it off. And it's going to cost us in
higher interest costs, and it costs us in banking fees,
and we pay for this over and over again.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Wait a minute, they do you have marketable oil? Thinks
to Trump. You mean we can't get some of that
back through the oil cells?

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Well, who is we? The banks?

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
They don't get the money is going into other people's pockets.
They're exactly, that money's poking for me for something by
somebody else.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Yep, that money's already spoken for it. That's right, one
hundred percent. Now, this, this, this is such. Governments destroy wealth,
They destroy people, They pick and choose winners. They let
layman brothers fail but they bailed out Barrel Stearns, which
was bought by JP Morgan for a song and has
made them incredibly wealthy. All these corporations got tens of
billions of dollars. Fanny Made and Freddie Mack were bailed

(01:07:56):
out for years. I argue this against this. The problem
with fan and man Freddi Mack is their quasi state entities,
their peristatals, their publicly traded stocks. But they get their
chartered from Congress, and they must fulfill a mission for
Congress to provide housing for those who can't get loans otherwise,
you know, for whatever reason, usually poverty or whatever, or discrimination.

(01:08:16):
So they have to provide. They backed those mortgages. They
get those mortgages to those people less than five percent
of or less than fifteen percent of the population actually
qualifies for a loan back by Faandy Man Freddie Mac.
Yet by the time that this thing blew up in
two thousand and eight, they held sixty seven percent of
every mortgage in the country. Two thirds of the mortgages
were in the hands of Fanding Man Freddy Mac. Because

(01:08:38):
as a publicly traded company, they had to give a
return to shareholders to get their stock price to go up.
And since they're not, you know, they're not in a
business that generates money from a standpoint of a growing business,
because they can't only can only borrow so many or
make so many loans under the law the way it
was designed. They bought up secondary mortgages. They bought mortgages,
they bought mortgage, they bought mortgages, and they bought bad mortgages.
And what they did is by buying that, they got

(01:09:00):
more cash flow, which meant that could pay dividends to
the investors. And the more return they got, the higher
stock price went, so they got a return for the investors.
And so they're answering the investors, they're answering Congress, and
they're answering the people that they're charged to serve. You
can't answer all these masters. And as a consequence, they
held most of the bad paper. And the thing is,
for years when Countrywide or Wells Fargo or Bank of

(01:09:24):
America would go into the markets to borrow hundreds of
billions of dollars to make mortgage loans, which is what
banks do. People don't realize that other banks loan the money.
Bigger banks they borrow the money to make mortgages. They
were always getting it in a quarter to half a
basis point higher than Fanding man Freddie Mac. Why because
the government guaranteed they wouldn't fail, so they were a
safer risk, so banks would give them the money at

(01:09:45):
a cheaper rate. So they got the rate at a
cheap rate and gave a better deal to people who
are less credit worthy, whereas you and I had to
borrow money from Wells Fargo, not form Faanding man Freddie Mack,
and we paid a higher rate. We were already paying
a penalty because of this corrupt system. So the government
back institutions Fanding man Freddie May got cheaper loans, and
then they amassed all this debt and then the whole
house of cards did the collapse. And exactly the promise

(01:10:06):
that was made implicit was that we will not let
them fail. Too big to fail. So when they screwed
the country over with their bad business practices in two
thousand and eight and it came back to haunt them,
the government bailed them out, and then we paid tens
of billions of dollars to bail them out, and then
we also paid in the marketplace. This is just grace
this is what happened, and the world ignored it. They

(01:10:27):
blamed it on capitalism and nothing to do with capitalism.
This is not capitalism. This is government policy that perverted
the free marketplace and we're still dealing with the consequences
of it today.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Right, Yeah, you're talking about it was interferencing capitalism that
caused the problem here, not capitalism itself.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
Well, the role of government is to ensure a level
playing field. This is not a level playing field when
you guarantee that people who are not credit worth they
can borrow money because you have compassion, because they're irresponsible.
That's not compassionate. That's stupid. That's stupid. There's a reason
why there are winners and losers in life. There are
losers in life because people make bad decisions, foolish decisions.

(01:11:02):
People who drink too much, people who gamble too much.
People you'rresponsible, people have no discipline it comes to finances.
It is not your responsibility, my responsiblit, or the state's
responsibility to carry those people in that ten thousand years ago,
they would have been the ones that starved to death
because they didn't fashion tools to hunt down the beasts.
We fashion tools, we went on a hunt. We worked together,
we took down the beast. We fed our families. They

(01:11:25):
starved to death, and that's Darwin. Their gene pool died.
But now we carry these losers along. Whoops, that's going
to piss off a lot of people, too bad.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Well, they're not listening trying to improve their life, that's
for sure. There looking to grift or get high or
something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
So there are people who have fallen down as a
consequence of no fault of their own, bad circumstance happened,
and we do help them out. But that is not
what this system did. This system carried people had no business,
no response. I mean, these are the people that go down.
All right, Well, I'll get a lottery ticket. Here, give
me some smokes, give me my Marlboroughs, give me that

(01:11:59):
mad dog. You know, no, no, no, that's not responsible.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
To them. Now hold on now.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
In an Anglo's accent, a Hispanic or a black accent,
I'll test.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
I mean, there's there's a lot of folks that way,
you know, Like you know, I don't advocate people to smoke,
but if you're gonna smoke, you know, be frugal about it.
By the buy a cart, and don't buy just one
pack of smokes. If you're gonna, if you're gonna, if
you're gonna drink yourself to death, don't don't buy just
the one beer from from the market on the corner.
Buy from an actual you know, a grocery store. You're

(01:12:34):
just saving money.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Change change as a month to a whole cart, and bro,
I could get a pack.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
Okay, So we all have advocate for any of that,
but we all tell me you don't have a family member,
or a neighbor or a relation that is like this
that it doesn't matter how much money they have, they'll
never have a penny because you're irresponsible. They will spend
it all and so is it you're responsibility to carry them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
No, it's not, they say, they say, what almost one
hundred percent of lottery winners become bankrupt and no time.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Yeah, because they don't know how to handle the money,
because it's newfound wealth and they just blow it. It's
like sports athletes. You know, I have no empathy for
someone that had a seventy five million dollar contract in
his bankrupt that's your fault. I don't want to hear you.
You had no education, you did no better. No, I
do blame the sports leagues as well. I mean they
bear some responsibility for financial planning before they ever wore
these big contracts, these clubs, they should be forced to

(01:13:26):
go through financial planning. But you know, look, people make
dumb decisions in life. That's the reality of life, and
not planning for your future is one of them. Look,
you get hit by a bus tomorrow, you're twenty two,
walk out, walk into a bus, it's over. But if
you didn't plan for tomorrow, then there's nothing there. But
if you plan for tomorrow, then there's something there. Even
saw them out. But if you don't get killed when

(01:13:46):
you're twenty two and you save and invest, then when
you're older you have something. If you have the resources,
you don't have to rely on the kindness of strangers.
You don't have to rely I'm milking the gun you
have to rely. I'm being dependent on the state. Why
does anybody want to be dependent on the goodwill of others?
Beyond my comprehension, I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
I don't know why anybody wants to be dependent on
the state. The lessing you should ever want to be
depended on is the government, Whether it's state or federal exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
That's the the quote unquote government programs. You know, they
they turned upside down, like you said, they're originally you know,
start started out to help people to ensure that they
don't end up in object poverty. But now all of
a sudden, it's the other way around. It's cradle to
the grave mentality. Where as soon as you're born, we're
gonna give you something, and as long as you're voting
the right way, we're gonna make sure you're you're always

(01:14:30):
going to have money. We're gonna take care of you,
even though even though inflation is going to destroy the
value of it. We're gonna keep putting money in your
pocket as long as you vote for us. And it doesn't,
I guess it doesn't. To foster you know, independence if
you will, and of course a good worthic ork ethic
for sure. And more and more people are being dependent
on the kindness of strangers those around them, more dependent

(01:14:50):
on family, whatever the case may be, as a result
for this mentality.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
So what you're saying, Todd is the Left likes to
cater to the underdog and say we're gonna make it,
make it a you can succeed, honest to God, all
the way cradle to grave. Well, all the time they
keep saying, it's those darn conservatives over there, So the
Republicans that keep keep tripping us up and we can't
do anything for you, while they're at the same time
catering to the same corporate entities as the right tar
that they keep accusing the Right of being catering to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Yeah, yep, yeah, life's not fair. But if you stay
on the government plantation, you know, we're gonna make sure
that it's a little bit more fair for you. But
you're not gonna be You know, you're not gonna be
successful in life. If you do that, you're not gonna
be You're always going to be a victim. You're always
going to find some fault with somewhere else instead of
looking at yourself and saying, hey, yeah, life isn't fair.
Stuff sucks, but here's how I can make it better

(01:15:38):
by being being a positive individual and going out and
actually work and trying to build something and not voting
for Dems.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
So we do have a we do have a question
here in the comments, saw this gentleman's asking faults on
NATO that he's extremely worried as a European that both
the Dems and Trump seem to be okay with massive
aggression into Europe. I'm not sure sure what you mean
by massive aggression as an immigration or warfare. I mean,

(01:16:07):
we do have Ukraine and Russia going at it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
But yeah, Russia's not taking over Eastern Europe anytime soon.
That's not going to happen. So I don't see any
aggression there. I see the aggression being the unchecked immigration
that they've allowed.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Yeah, that's the concern for Europe, I think problem. I
wonder if that's not his concern, but I don't think
that's a natal concern.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
As far as the history of Europe, that's been the
problem though, right the people that just immigrate there. Sometimes
it's immigrating with force right to mainland Europe. The Moors
did it, I mean for crying out allowed. I mean
the Nazis were already there. They didn't have to go far.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I think the invaders, they were out of Africa and
they were encouraged to buy somebody from the Mid East
went into the northern African country long tell them to
be invaders and send them out there, and that's what
led to.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
But we're there because Europe at that point was fracked
in weak and now we're back to that point, right
history repeating radical Muslim invaders for crying out loud. I mean,
it was the Moors once upon a time. Now it's
a radical Islam that's invading these countries.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
It is, but it's been a problem, and that's why
they had the Crusades. As far as I know, that's
the whole premise.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
By the were a response to invasion. They were not
an invasion of the Middle East. They were a response.
They were a response to countries being overrun by bye
by radical Islam. Right, they were pushing back so that
Christians could go to the Holy Land. Uh and pilgrimage right,
basically pilgrim to the Holy Land, see the sites, et cetera,

(01:17:40):
and not be killed or put into slavery.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
So yeah, Islam nations have been aggressors throughout history, is
what we're getting at here. And it's interesting to me too,
because it seems to me aggressors seem to gain ground.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
You notice we had nine to eleven and all of
a suddenly, now we have this invitation of everybody in
the Meat East, everybody in their brother Phil and I
like that video where this woman's talking about uh yeah, okay,
so there are peaceful Muslims, but twenty five percent of
them are g Hottists. Of one hundred percent of Muslims
or jie Hottists, that's a pretty large number when you
start putting it into the millions and having them migrate

(01:18:18):
into other countries.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
And the mindset for for for the radicals is to
you know, basically export it around the world. You know,
that's their idea. It's not about you know, having a
homeland if you will, having peace, having prosperity, trade with neighbors. No,
it is spreading a radical ideology or killing those who
refuse to convert or bend the need to them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
There's enough people put videos together out there listening to
these leaders and they're in their Muslim community saying we're
going to these western countries. We're invading these western countries.
We are going to take over these western countries and
force them to become a Muslims. They've said this a
number of times out loud, right, And now you're hearing

(01:19:02):
about all the things going on in England and or
the UK, and it's no wonder and the thing about
it is is a snooze article come out what a
week ago. We're so about the twohundred and fifty thousand
people being gang raped and prostituted and all this other
criminal activity that's going on. But we were talking about
this ten fifteen years ago, that this was going to
be happening. We were talking about this ten fifteen years ago,

(01:19:24):
that this was already happening a lot of these European
countries and having concerned it's going to start happening in
the United States. And I do have sirens coming.

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
What did you do?

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Well, it's an ambulance, so I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
Healthy, Okay, they're coming for Yeah, so the men in black.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Right, Oh, no, the men in black, the whisper quiet helicopters.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
That guy's an Exfinity truck.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
It was our cable connection. Nobody's going to hear something now,
So yeah, I don't know, man. We've known about it
for decades here. We talked about it since nine to
eleven happened in the United States. But interesting enough, nine
and I happened, eleven happened to the United States, and
all of a suddenly we're all open to muslim that's
twice I hit that microphone. You know, we're all open

(01:20:15):
to Muslims coming over to the United States, and some
of it seemed like it was resentful on their part,
like they were being forced into it more than they
didn't want to leave their homelands and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Well, there are people who were displaced because of war
who didn't want to leave that that came here or
other places. That's that is true, But yeah, that's not
necessarily the case. Across the board. There are people who
are you know, didn't want to come here, but that's
not necessarily true again across the board.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
No, no, not across the world. Well, the ones I
wanted to there are ones that wanted to come here
simply for reasons we described, and I'm sure there's you know,
that's seventy five percent of peaceful Muslims. And I appreciate
them for being peaceful. You know, they probably wanted to
come here too, for a better life and get away
from things that were going on over there in their
own country. And I have family members not in my bloodline,

(01:21:03):
in my daughter's bloodline because I'm married who I'm married to.
Me think so her grand great grandparents were from Syria
and Lebanon. Oh, married couple who are Christians that we're
trying to escape persecution of Christianity come to the United States.
Great people, you know, So of course we welcome that

(01:21:23):
if the door is open to them, and we have
vetting processes and they meet all the criteria and they
come over to create a better life into somebody in
the United States of America. Not talking against those.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
Folks, right, absolutely, Yeah, well, I suppose that's that's a
fair point. We have a lot of Muslims who escape
from Bosnia when that fell apart. But here's the thing.
No country in the world is in conflict that's on
our border. So all these people could have gone somewhere
else once they reach safe haven. That's not supposed to wear.

(01:21:56):
So you know, this whole thing about us taking refties,
I think it's a bit silly.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
But anyway, so Darius to your question, though, I think
I think we all agree that a NATO's not going anywhere.
The United States isn't leaving NATO, it's not falling apart.
And Trump can't pull us out of NATO on his own.
It takes an act to Congress over here.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
So it's a treaty, it's a NATO a treaty, so
we can't be removing them. That's correct. President doesn't have
the authority, never had the authority. So it just it shows.
It shows me how the media they ran on this
thing about the Trump's point us out of NATO, they
ran this story knowing it's not even legally possible. Just
what idiots they are, uh, And and how it's all
got an objective here there, there's there's a goal here,

(01:22:34):
and that's undermined the United States. Trump can't remove us
from NATO. We're not leaving NATO. NATO is a treaty
obligation and we can't get out of it unless Congress
votes to leave and the president signs that. So that's
just the reality here. Presidents don't have the arbitrary power.
In fact, the president was was was stymy today. His
U directive for IDs has been overturned by a federal
judge saying he doesn't have the authority to intervene in elections.

(01:22:56):
The Constitution says that states areun elections, and that's what
the constant says. Yeah, I said I didn't think this
would stand up, and it turns out and correct, it
doesn't stand up. That's why I'm still curious about the
Save Act. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I
suppose because Congress it's a bill and the present signs that,
then it can affect elections. But the president can't utiliably
decide what happens to elections. He can't do that. That's

(01:23:17):
not what the Constitution allows for. So there you go.
I mean, that's you know anyway, It's just it's just
frustrating nonsense. It goes on.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
It is it is, And you're right, the media misleads
people because you know, if you tell the truth, it
doesn't sell. You know, the truth is boring, but if
you doctor it up with a bunch of falsehoods and
mix a little bit of truth in there and get
people emotionally charged on it, all of a sudden, Man,
you're selling ad space all day long.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
Yeah. Fairpoint, fair point. But that's what they do. They're
all about the clicks and about the attention. They don't
care about the truth. Look, I mean, it's the New
York Times again. Let's go back to what I talked
about earlier. Early in the program. They ran two stories
and one of them is a journalist who contacted me
said they want to do a story about meout what
I'm doing with the ref Jesus Okay, so I you know,
I mean, I that's New York Times. I'll answer his questions,

(01:24:05):
but I mean trust is another issue. So I arranged
my schedule, did a zoom session with him, and we
did it, and I haven't heard from the guy in
over a month. He got what he wanted and there's
no story. And it was supposed to be a follow
up for the interview that was just in their introduction. Anyway,
they ran the story about the REFG program, and they're

(01:24:27):
crying about it, falsely telling people it's a white program,
basically trying to tell that it's only for white people,
and then even admit their own story that the State
Department doesn't release statistics on ethnicity, so they're basically saying,
we can't verify what we're saying, but we're telling you
it's a white it's only a program, and the rest
of the world is not coming over. And then they
also try to give the false impression about what AFG is.
You know, these people didn't flee from a war. Fleeing
from a war is not the basis of REFG. Then

(01:24:48):
they go down another outpath, you know, the canar, the
red herring that's always turning out there about white genocide.
It's not about white genocide. Nobody's coming to America on
the basis of genocide. They're coming to America on the
basis of racial persecution. That's legitimate. That's the basis for
reffue status and also includes blacks and Browns and and
Indians who are coming over here as well. But they
don't tell you that. They are just honest about it.

(01:25:10):
And then the biggest hypocrisy in the story from New
York Times is they say that this is white's only. Well,
we brought three hundred thousand Ukrainians. You didn't have a
problem with that, but six thousand white South African suddenly
trips your meter. You know. It's look, it's it's it's
this is what the media does. They're just as honest.
They're not even media. The fourth The state has become

(01:25:30):
the toilet bowl, that's what it's become. It's so sad
to see, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
For sure, Yeah, six thousand people from South Africa. I
don't understand how that triggers somebody's outrage.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
You know, it makes me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Ye no sense at all. This triggers my outrage, all
of a sudden rage. Weird odd and I dare say
the people that are coming here, by and large, if
they do become citizens, there are going to be good citizens,
for crying out loud, maybe not all, but a large
portion will be good citizens in a great addition to
our nation.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
Well, whether the good citizens or not as a whole
is not even Germaine. Question, it's the REFG program. It's
not immigration, so you know it's it's it's it's not
even Germaine. And we didn't ask whether smallways going to
be good citizens of the concholeuse becks or the kearkey's
coming over and we let them come over. That's true,
So that's not even Germaine to the conversation. But yes,
your point is valid, your points out, but this is

(01:26:25):
not even Germaine. So now it's just it's just so
frustrating to see the stupidity that goes on here. It's
just unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Absolutely so who do why ninety six oh seven? I
think you need to clarify your statement on there on
social media you're calling Trump out on that, but uh,
he's basically saying it's nothing to do with white or
black just favor drifting for Trump. So I don't know
where he's going.

Speaker 4 (01:26:51):
With that one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
That one, Yeah, I don't know anybody. You're not getting
anything out of it, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
Yeah, refugees are probably the least people in a and
that are coming here who can do any favors for anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
They're desperate folks or need to get out of a
bad situation. I don't know what he means there, Like
you said, he should, we should clarify that. I don't
quite get it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
So I'm not sure either what Holden was asking you, Chris.
He did ask you a question. I don't know if
you've seen it or not.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
How many cartel mass graves along the border does it
take before it's a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
Then, I'm not really sure what that has to do
with the topic in hand.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
I think we were talking about when immigration and stuff
like that, and they're supposed to go to their their
own country. But yeah, I don't know how all of
the cartel got into that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
I don't see mass graves along the Mexican border though, either.

Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
Well, the mass graves are by drug cartels killing Mexicans,
but they're not Mexicans. Are coming here as refugees.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
Yeah, they're not trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
When Haitians crossed the border on the Rio Grande is refgie,
that's fraud. They're not refugees. They were in Mexico. It's
a safe haven.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
But cartels aren't killing people at the border. They're trying
to help people get across the border because it's lucrative
for them because they make money.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
Oh well no, they're a big any of mass slaughters
and mass graves and it just just below the border
in Mexico from these groups. So I think that's what
they have them but people.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
But for the people that they're smuggling over though, that's
a that's a lucrative and beneficial to them.

Speaker 4 (01:28:10):
Am I Right, Well, it's it's a whole different kettle fish.
But yes, you make a good point there. But both
both these things can be true.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
I think what you're talking about the opposition, they they've
had people reporters and uh things like that that's spoken
against the cartel and they will want them down and
kill them. They have about it at all. So and
they also have you know, it's not just the cartel,
but it's the cartels in Mexico. You have different drug
cartels and stuff who are a position or one another.

(01:28:40):
That happens, but I don't know that that hasn't they
will do with what Holden was getting at. So why
do I ninety six oh seven says he feels like
it's Trump do an Elon Musk a favor? I don't
know how does Elon Musk favor?

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
Brother doesn't care about something. People need to get to
out their head. It's like the whole thing Elon Muski
if this this session, it's like it's like the reason
the America is upset with South Africa is because of
the the genocide case of the iced date. That's nothing
to do with it. This is very This is coffee
table now from people that don't know what they're talking about, uninformed.
Elon Musk has nothing to do with this, nothing to

(01:29:14):
do with this. This is not about Ela Musk and
Ela Musk is how would be doing a favor bringing
people for South Africa. It's not a favor. It it's
not like it's not like we've captured all the Nazi
scientists we brought them over to start the NASA program.
That would be doing somebody favor. We're not doing ourselves
a favor for sure. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
And somebody says here, you know, do you guys agree
that there are other countries that need it more? Well,
it's not about what about ism? This other country needed
it more. It's just the fact that South Africa has
this program and they were able to take advantage of it.
It's certainly not racist. But are there other countries that
may need it? For sure, let's talk about it, let's
work on it. But what about ism? About their getting it?

(01:29:52):
I'm not getting it. Other countries could get a revendial program.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
We've had a lot of immigration from other countries and
now Africa.

Speaker 4 (01:30:01):
Well, this is again, this is not immigration, this is separate.
This is a refuge part. Yeah, you're right now, John said,
we've had immigration, it's not immigration. There's there's a difference.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
To clarify ourselves, we've had Okay, Well, we can go
back to history and stuff in there. We're situations where
people could have used asylum or refugee status to escape
certain things that were going on. I mean, Kenya has
got a long history of genocide, do they not where
they attack each other because they are different tribes or
different plan what you what you call it when they're

(01:30:31):
from different groups.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
We have no obligation to take anyone in this country.
That is where a sovereign state, we can take who wants,
not who, and whether other people or whether they should
be or not is not your main the issue with
a topic here is the program that The New York
Times wrote about an effort to disparage the program and
undermine the Trump administration instead of telling the truth, instead

(01:30:58):
of telling the truth. And I just discovered my just
the guys asking question about what other countries I just
talked about that we took in one hundred and sixty
eight thousand unvetted Afghans in three weeks. We took in
three hundred thousand Ukrainians. Enough, you know, so this complaining
about South Africa is just just nonsense. It's just a
bunch of racists too, who got their heads up therectum
and don't understand what's going on in the world. So

(01:31:18):
I'm done with that nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Excellent, Yeah, yeah, you know, he was just trying to
make a point. I'm not disagreeing with this point necessarily,
as far as other countries may have needed the status too.
It was brought to Trump's attention on this one, whether
it was Elon Musk or it was another group of people.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
So here's you. And so the program was abused. The
Biden administration brought two hundred and twenty six thousand people
and most of them weren't even vetted. I just talked
about the Afghans that came here and flooded in our country,
not vetted, and then all we get the sad stories
about all these people helping them, But we didn't have
one hundred and sixty eight thousand Afghans helping the military.
If we did, the country wouldn't have been lost. Okay,

(01:32:00):
get exactly, we'd have an army. This is so, this
is non And that's just the ones that came in
during that three week period, not all the hundreds of
thousands come over here since then. So so this this
is nonsense. It's nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
It's why why do I ninety six oh seven. Here's
the thing. These people were recognized by the federal government
for refugee status. However, anybody uh in the globe can
seek asylum if they have reasonable cause to seek asylum,
and there is a process, and you can do it
on the website. You don't have to come to the
country to do it. You can you can advance by

(01:32:33):
going to a website and filing for asylum status. So
there is opening to other.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
Exactly it's not exactly works, But I wanted to go
back to the point about what's what's going on here.
So Trump suspended the program because of pervasive fraud when
he took over in the Biden administration, flooding our country
with people who weren't vetted. And that's a fact. That's
why two hundred and twenty six thousand cases were currently
being reviewed of previous refugees that came over here. So

(01:33:00):
that's why suspended the program. Then there was a gap
between the twentieth and January and the seventh of February
before he instituted the directive to create a new refugee
program for South Africans. And the reason that program was
created is because the government of South Africa violated its
constitution and decided it was going to steal property from
people without compensation in violation of its own constitution Section

(01:33:22):
twenty five. That, in addition to a series of egregious
offenses directing against the United States, pushed Trump the point
where he was going to do something that's why it happened.
So that's where it starts, that's where it finishes. If
South African never passed this legislation which violates Art. Section
twenty five of the Constitution for expropriation on the compensation,
there would be no refue programs in South Africa. So

(01:33:42):
if people have a problem with this and need to
talk to Sierramo Posa and the Ghules in the Parliament
in South Africa, they're the approximate cause for this refue program.
So if you don't like it, you need to go
talk to Sierramo Posa. Case closed.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:33:58):
Yeah, that's where it starts.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Okay ai overview here. I just asked the question how
many countries qualify refugee status in the United States. Individuals
from more than sixty countries qualify for and are admitted
under refugee status in the United States. Well, there is
no definitive static cap I'm the number of qualifying countries
the US traditionally admits with refugees from over eighty different nations.
So why do I ninety six oh seven there's your answer.

(01:34:26):
There are other countries where people do qualify for refugee status.
I don't know which ones.

Speaker 4 (01:34:33):
Look this, we're obviously dealing with ridiculous nonsense here. I've
already explained this. If the person is really curious about this,
then they can come watch my program instead of eating
up the time. If people here to talk about politics
in the US, I do appreciate we occasionally delve into
saw that in politics, but that's not what this program
is about.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
He said, just give me a reason. Should be easy.
I think I gave him an answer.

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
Raw. Anyways, Look, we've taken in three million refugees from
around the world since nineteen eighty three million from all
over the world, almost none of them white. Until the
Ukraine is flooded here, and they weren't brought in as
refugees even though they are refugees. They came over under
humanitarian parole, another scam. And then they're left here in
temperate protected states, which is only good for twenty four months.

(01:35:13):
Those arrived at twenty twenty two. They've long lost their
protected states. Why are they still here? Why are they
not backfighting war in Ukraine where they're needed anyway?

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
Next, Yeah, well, yeah, you ask a good question, but
nobody's got a good answer.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
I mean, oh, I got a good answer, because they're
trying to undermine our country. That's what they're doing. Yep. Anyway,
all right, Well, can we get back to something a
little more interesting that's related to politics in the US.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Oh yeah, okay, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:43):
Well, what about Trump and Iran? So what about this deal? Guys?
I mean, where do you take on this that we
still have? We seen the points, the fourteen points from
this deal? Are we any better off if this thing
is bought into it? And is it even a deal?
I mean Iran says they've shut down the streets again. Wait,
what's going on here? John?

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Well, as far as I know, Trump keeps uh he's
determined the straight from looses open, ships are flowing. He's
given numbers of ships that have flown through or or
went through the straight. Uh So, I don't know what
Iron's talking about regarding closing down the street or not
closing down the straight. I'm not sure where they get
their strengths to close down the straight anymore. I guess

(01:36:23):
they still have some. Uh So, I don't know, dude.
I think we're gonna have a hard time getting this
to flow through. At a first meeting, I think fans
had to cancel because they said that it was done well.
As we spoke about last week, you know, Israel tacked
Lebanon and that's it. We're not talking to you anymore.
Now they're back at the table and they're talking and
according to Trump, to getting things worked out. But those

(01:36:45):
details are kind of hard to come through until they
really get things finalized. I think.

Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
Todd, now I kind of agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
I think we talked about this last week, point by point.
You know, it's gonna take a while to see if
this is going to be work. While Iron's not necessarily
the the the most honest actor, if you will, and
in the most honorable opponent in this circumstances.

Speaker 4 (01:37:10):
Well, my take on this is, why are we even
listening to these clowns? I mean, they've made promise. Is
there a signatory to the Nuclear non Proliferation Treaty? So
why they're proliferating nuclear weapons? Right? We're gonna they signed
that agreement, that's a treaty. Think you're gonna uphold this.
They they agreed to under the the the the dirty
deal that Obama made with them. They weren't gonna pursue
new weapons. Yet they still enrich uranium and pursued new

(01:37:32):
go weapons that built Internet. They built the missiles or
intermediate range missiles that could go even further, and then
they attacked Israel and provoked two years ago. People seem
to forget all this. They just launched missiles and attacked Israel,
and they've funded terrorists. They've shown no inclination to stop this.
This agreement does nothing end that. The only answer here
is the elimination of these gouals from the planet and
remove this regime. That's the only answer. But the president,

(01:37:54):
I think is is capitulating to public opinion, is what
it looks like to me.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
I've seen people on social media trying to appeal to
the president Iranians, you know, saying we love you for
what you've done. Please don't stop. Get this finished and
over with and no matter what you know. We've seen
videos of Iranians with bombs basically hit the city near them,
and they're going, I'm here, I'm going through it, but
I'm happy for it. You know what we're doing. If

(01:38:22):
we were to finish it would be the greatest thing
in the world right now, because we wouldn't be doing
this just for the United States. Of America. We would
be doing something for Iran in the long run, we'd
be doing something for the Mid East and the long run,
we'd be doing something for the betterment of the globe
in the long run. And the irony is that there's
so many people that are fighting, including members of Congress
that Trump is having shouting matches with him recently, fighting

(01:38:44):
with him about it and trying to stop him from
doing it. You talk about a lack of backbone in
this country anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
Yeah, I think that's a fair point. It's something that
needs to be addressed. You know, we really have a
lot of lack of courage to do what's right, moral
and just, and that frustrates Speed to no end. It's
something that this country seemed to have lost along the way.
It's backbone. It's a show.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Look at Europe. I mean, Darius was concerned about what's
going on in Europe, their own leaders in their country.
I don't think we have leaders anymore. I think we
have puppets. I think we have people who are just
doing what they're told. They don't have any backbone, they
don't stand up for anything, they don't seem reasonable, they
don't have any common sense, and they certainly don't want
to do anything that's a tough decision or a tough deal.
They just want it easy. They wanted on easy Street.

(01:39:26):
They want the star Karmers or whatever his name is
to run things out there who just can't get anything
done and crap all over their own people. And it's
a shame to think that some of the greatest nations
in the world, including the United States of America, is
reducing itself to this and answering to the aggressors.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
Why are we negotiating with the country they're submurdered thirty
thousand Savans in cold blood for no reason. I do
not know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
I don't know why we try to negotiate with people
you can't count on to hold true to a treaty,
to their agreements. People that they're the whole religion ideology
that runs under a theocracy says it's okay to lie
to the infidels as long as it serves your purpose
and your ideology, you know, loss that serves a law. Fine,
lie to them all you want to and just and

(01:40:12):
then underhandedly, you know, do them.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
In Yeah, I see the comment here that European leader's
been very good of Ukraine. That's amount of opinion. They've
not been very good of Ukraine. They've been a disaster.
They have fuel to conflict which has led to the
death of one hundreds of thousands. They've led to the
destruction of Eastern Europe. They have created a situation which
has made Russia even more dangerous. Now, what with Sweden

(01:40:34):
and Finland joining NATO, this has not made NATA stronger.
It's made NATO weaker many respects. It's made it more
likely it will have a conflict with Russia because that
NATO didn't need Finland in it. Finlandization was a verb
for a reason, and it functioned very well as a
buffer state between the West, bringing in the Baltic states.
While I'm a huge fan of Estonia and Lafia, it

(01:40:54):
was not a wise idea either. You know, these are
right on the doorstep of Russia. It was a provocative move.
And now these European states are clearing out their armories
of their old thirty and forty year old equipment that
they don't want to maintain anymore, giving it to Ukraine
so that their industrial complex can make lots of money
selling weapons of death and filling their stocks and their
own forces and letting Ukrainians die for war that they

(01:41:15):
want to fight, but their too caloriy to fight. So
I don't think European leaders done anything good in Ukraine.
In fact, they've stoked the conflict that should have been
over a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
And holding I got no disagreement with you, Holden says,
following up what you were saying, Chris, the United States
allowed to hundred and seventy million of the citizens to
receive an experi experimental gene therapy.

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
Well, I don't know of anything about that. I didn't
receive an experimental gene therapy, I simon pure blood.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
Yeah, no, either did I. But there's three hundred and
forty million of us in two hundred and seventy million
these claimant did receive those as he's called experimental gene therapy.
I don't know if it has anything to do with
your teens or not, but the mrina is supposed to
interact in some sort of way.

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
I guess, well, look, we already have alien DNA. If
it wasn't for the mitochondri bacteria that glombed onto our
gentlemen at some point, we wouldn't be able to produce
the energy necessary to get through life and respiate and
breathe and move. So mitochondra DNA is already alien DNA,
so it's a little more alien DNA.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
That's a little bit more alien man made alien DNA.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
Right, Well, you know it's I guess they grafted. It's
gain a function, man gain a function. That Isn't that
better when you when you gain more functions?

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
I'm not sure the dust Gegee experiment thing is.

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
Done that have to do with this boy really ranging
far afield with these topics.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
We are, we are a little bit across the board.
There no going back to your points, Chris. So, I
think you're right as far as how the Europeans treated
the Ukraine conflict, and they they basically managed to profit
it off it more than anything. I think they would
encourage it to do so. They could have probably and

(01:42:55):
I thought I've kind of always thought that if you're
come together on the Ukukraine Russia conflict, they probably could
have shut it down.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
Yeah, no, I agree. So, but just like Bosnia, they
allowed it to fester and become a problem. And this
is what this is. The Europeans are totally ineffective. There
are no leaders in Europe. The last real leader in
Europe was was Helmet Cole, who left and he became
a fossilized corrupt individual late in his career. And the
last previous decent ruler in Europe at all before that
was Maggie Thatcher. They're just a bunch of you know,
namby pamby wannabes that can kind lead the way out

(01:43:26):
a wet paper bag. Whether it's the Spanish leaders, or
it's the Italian leaders, especially the French leaders and the
German leaders, they're just losers one and all. The Brits
haven't had a decent prime minister in ages. I mean
John Major started the downward spiral of losers. Tony Blair,
even though he was left to center, at least was
a leader. I'll give him that. I didn't agree with
most of what he did, but he was a leader.
But Europe is lacking leadership because they lack real men

(01:43:48):
and real women. I mean, we get the likes of
Ursula Fundelaar, you know that that's that's who's supposed to
be a leader for Europe. It's just ridiculous. They they
they they they they're Their idea of leading is standing
up to America depend on America to purchase their crap
and defend their defend their skirts, you know. So it's
just it's pathetic. Now Europe is dead and buried, and

(01:44:08):
now it's invaded by a tens of millions of invaders
who refuse to assimilate and or taking over the country countries,
and it's just it's it's dead. Europe is dead, it's fossilized,
and it had a chance. But maybe it'll come back,
but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
Yep, sounds right for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Yeah, we got about a half a minute here left, Todd,
You got anything on your mind you want to close
out with? By chance?

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
No, This weekend I'll be down in Franklin, near Nashville.
I'll be handing over the reigns of the American Legion
and the Department of Tennessee to a new commander decided
enough to run for another term. So it's been good
for this year, so be handing it over. We'll have
Senator Haggerty speaking, and of course we'll see what's.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
Next for me.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Awesome man, So giving up the ghost on that one, yep, Chris,
what do you got going on?

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
Just recovering and then getting ready for the fourth, and
then another trip to New England that I postponed, So
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
We'll see I guess awesome. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
that's our bit for tonight. We hope you got something
out of it. Don't forget to join us next week,
same time, same place, and have a good week and
God bless. Broadcasting from two hundred Main Street and the

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