The Common Sense Conservatives with Brent N. jones

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Common Sense Conservatives, a political discussion group
about current events and other government related matters every Wednesday
evening from seven to eight pm right here on WUSMN
fifteen ninety AM, WUSMN ninety five point three FM and
streaming live on WUSMN dot Live. Making sense of the
inverted reality we are subject to every day. The Common

(00:24):
Sense Conservatives are here to help bring you back to reality.
Now your host Chris What, Todd McKinley, and John Globin.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, folks, welcome back Wednesday, July eighth, twenty twenty six.
We've just celebrated the twour and the fifth anniversary of
this fine republic. You know they call us a discussion group,
of political discussion group. You know, if they've done this
in November of twenty twenty when we were on the air,
we probably wouldn't call this three angry white men, right exactly.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
So my CO is there in East Tennessee is Tom McKinley.
That's my NCO.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Always got have a good NCO along your side there
when you're a colonel and out in our studio in
National Hampshire.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
It's other than John grovenor John Let's start with you
how you doing this evening?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Oh, I'm doing well, Chris. You know, same old sam
O up here, just enjoying the heat, sweating to it
and all that good stuff. Watching Chris Papus get caught
his lives as passes catching up to him. Now he's dating.
He's running for US Senate to fight corruption in DC.
If you don't know, Chris Pappis is in the House
member of the first district here in New Hampshire and

(01:25):
he's now running for US Senate to phil Jean Heats
see and yeah, he's fighting corruption all right, while he
was dating somebody who was lobbying for Amazon. And yeah,
you got caught in that.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Why fascinating.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
If you were in AOC's district, you'd be lobbying against Amazon,
so you couldn't get in any trouble there. It's also
funny that you say Chris Poppas, because Chris Poppas is
the name of one of the most dynamic mayris in
all of South Africa.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I picking up a lot of background noise from your
mic there, John.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Let me check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, you're it's a lot of distortion. I wasn't getting
it from Todd. Todd, how are things for you in
East Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
Oh no, man, just plugging along, you know, working on
the school board, trying to get our budget passed through
the county commission. We're having some back and forth and Tennessee,
you know you a county commission is our funding body.
That they can't tell the school board which lines of
the budget they did they won't vote for. They can
just tell you, hey, lower the budget by two million
or whatever. So we have a little bit of back

(02:26):
and forth with them. So I had to vote yesterday
to send a budget back to the to the county
Commission because they want to tell me a line they
have to vote for. I'm like, if you if you
tell me a dollar amount, no problem. If you tell
me a line, I'm going to push send it back
to you because that's my vote, not your vote.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Well, there you have it.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
If we've got a guess coming on in just a
few minutes here, folks, I'll have Todd introduce him, and
then I'll launch into the questions we get started. But
before we do stick around with this tight we'll be
talking about the truce is over. There is no ceasefire.
It's time to pummel the terror sponsor into oblivion. The
gloves that come off, Trump says, there's skull.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
He's right.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
It took way too long to reach this decision. Over
a month ago, we were arguing for the same thing.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I know I was.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I think my co hosts were as well. It's time
to pummel the reign and terror regime into oblivion. In addition,
Trump has asked the Supreme Court to reconsider its boneheaded
decision on birthright citizenship, which violated the spirit and intent
of the fourteenth Amendment.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
We shall see what our fifty home fifteenth Amendment. We'll split.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
We got to say, yeah, fourteenth was no. Fourteenth is
the granted citizenship. Fifteenth was voting rights. Excuse me, yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Fourteen yeah, a lot of people will vote. Yeah, that's right.
Thirteenth slavery, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, sixth December eighteen sixty five, then eighteen sixty seven
was the fourteenth was granted citizenship to former slaves and
their offspring, and the fifteenth was voting.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
That's why.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
When the justices argued that Chief Justice Sean Roberts claimed
that by issuing the fourteenth Amendment, the intent was a
grant all rights, all natural rights, and all guarantee constitutional
rights to those people. Except that's a lie, because the
Fourteenth Amendment not grant them the right to vote. It
wasn't until the fifteenth amend which occurred several months after that,

(04:05):
that black men were allowed to vote. Black women weren't,
but black men were and all, by the way, white
women didn't get to vote until nineteen twenties. Yeah, so
all right, let's come the guest here, Todd, Let's go
and bring him in. John, our guest is from Tennessee
running for the state legislature.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Let him get in here, and I'll let Todd introduce him.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Right.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Brent Jones was born in Lafayat, Tennessee, where he earned
the values that faith, family, and service. He grew up
in a Christian home and was blessed with a loving
family that shaped who he is today.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
He is.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
His father actually was retired the MS director and is
actually a three term county mayor in Macon County, Tennessee.
He is an attorney, former prosecutor, and we.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Won't hold it against him.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Air Force now reserve lieutenant colonel. So two Army guys
against you here, Lieutenant Colonel Jones.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
No worries. Don't worry.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
We're happy that you're here.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
You know, I heard about you know, what happened, you know,
during your campaigns and things that were going against you,
which we can get into here in a little bit,
which really turned me on to looking at your website,
your social media and everything, and I'm like, why was
this guy getting attacked?

Speaker 3 (05:07):
A former member of.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
The military, current member of the military reserves. Now, why
is this guy getting attacked bringing nothing but conservative values
to the table for other people to listen to, you know,
to give them, give them an option, And here they
are attacking you underhandedly. I don't understand it, but please
introduce yourself really quick and then we'll get into it.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Well, yeah, before you do, Brent, you know, Avril Stockdale
famously in nineteen ninety says, why am I What am
I doing here?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's your turn? Thank you?

Speaker 6 (05:35):
Thank you guys. Yeah. So, so, like like Todd said,
I grew up in rural Middle Tennessee, went to the
University of Tennessee for college. You know, September eleventh happened
when I was at UT So that was part of
the reason I decided to join the military. But a
retired colonel from well, he was a colonel retired in

(06:01):
the Guard actually was a judge in my hometown and
and directed me to the Air Force and uh, and
that's why I ended up joining initially, and so I
headed out to the military in two thousand and seven,
starved on ACTI duty for eleven years as both a prosecutor,
a defense attorney, and a senior prosecutor in the JAG Corps,

(06:23):
and then moved back home to Tennessee in twenty eighteen.
And I've been prosecuting drug trafficking cases ever since, so
primarily focused on federal trafficking.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
And so yeah, well go ahead, Bran. Sorry I thought
you were pausing there. Please get you to start interrupting.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Yeah, yeah, sure, And so you know, I've felt the
call to run for some time. What Todd didn't mention
my grandfather was the county executive when I was born
back in from eighteen eighty four, and so I, you know,
I was sort of you know, involved in politics or
at least on the sideline seeing it happened firsthand from

(06:58):
from my life and then my dad you know, more recently,
but I knew it was something. It was sort of
a calling that eventually that that I might go down
that road. But I knew I had to build credibility
in my community, uh, in my country and my community.
And so that's what I've been doing for the last
twenty years. And so I left the US Attorney's office
in March, uh and and and decided to run, obviously

(07:21):
as a conservative Republican from Tennessee. But uh, you know,
the political world is different, and I you know, it's
it's it's a different animal. And and again, I you know,
I'm I don't want to I'm not gonna say anything
bad about my opponent. Frankly, you know she served, she
served uh uh in the represent as a representative for

(07:42):
the last four years. And so I don't I don't
have anything to say that's bad. But you know, political surveys,
you know, they they go out their text messages, they're
they're trying to get the point across. But you know,
when you have a veteran that served like I have
for the last twenty years, and and you call specifically

(08:03):
you call my service the swamp, I don't know, why
are you doing that?

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah, For some of the listeners, real quick, there was
a text message that was sent out a survey as
we all get during election time that basically said that
that he's a swamp dweller, carpet basically carpet bag to Tennessee.
Mind you, he's a native from Tennessee, had orders to
serve in like California and DC and other places, and
they call him a swamp dweller who was not doing
nothing but you know, being being active in the swamp

(08:30):
as a political operator whenever he had orders to be
on active duty in these locations.

Speaker 6 (08:34):
So that's right, that's right. And and you know I
joined I was in Virginia, California, Andrews in d C.
And then back in California before I got out, and
and so it was it was just part of my service.
And so the only times I've not been in the
state of Tennessee is for law school for three years
and deering military service and so lifelong Tennessee and and

(08:54):
and and that's why I came back home, uh, to
be back home and serve my community.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Well, before we go in further, Brent, I just want
to clarify something Todd said. We won't hold being an
attorney against.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
You, and we won't I mean air Force either.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
That's why I was headed Todd. You know you didn't.
You didn't let the penny drop.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
The fact that he was in the Air Force is
the hard thing to forget, but we'll let that go.
I mean, you know, I'm grateful to the Air Force.
It's one reason I'm alive. Those A tens and the
Gulf for Yeah, kind of cleared the pig for the
most part.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah they did.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I mean it been despite that it remained a target
rich environment.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
So we're still grateful for the Air Force.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Otherwise we probably would have had taken a few breaks
of shooting all those t seventy twos. But seriously, Brent,
so the call to run for office wit trophy, I mean,
is it just a lifelongest service thing, and that's what
we want to do. But every reason I asked it
because I ran for the state legislature.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
And I don't regret it.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
But boy, even though I'm a political scientist and historian,
I wasn't naive. But still my eyes really got open.
I didn't realize just how nasty this sounds like. You
got a taste of that recently. People can be for
a state wide office. I mean, it's for an office
in the state legislature. To me, it was serving the community.
But I saw some really nasty things. And I think
Todd can attest this too in his election campaigns. So

(10:09):
what what what I mean? Look, I know you're an attorney.
You can fight these guys off, but it takes on.
You know, it's hard to get good people run for office.
And that's basically what I'm getting at while you're running.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Man.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, I really it's it's simple. I just want to
make a difference. I mean, honestly, for the last eight
years prosecute in federal cases. I mean it's you know,
it's near and dear to my heart. We have we
have a drug problem in East Tennessee. And so I
mean we've been we've been fighting for the last eight years.
But but certainly I think it's a different animal when

(10:41):
you go to the legislature. You know, you I think
you can do more good. I think I can do
more good for East Tennessee, you know, fighting in the legislature.
And so that's I feel like the military and uh
both being a federal prosecutor has equipped me with you know,
with the skills to be able to you know, debate

(11:06):
things in the in the legislature that we need to
get done in Tennessee for the people of East Tennessee.
And so it's really just to make a difference.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Chris, you say that Tennessee has a drug problem, and
I understand that. I mean, in the previous administration, the
White House had a drug problem.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
We were finding cocaine in the White House. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I mean, so if we're finding cocaine in the White House,
I can imagine it pretty much gets all.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Over the country. Yeah, it's uh.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
You know, you mentioned your career in uniform, and if
I understand correctly, you you were a prosecutor, you were
a defense attorney, and you also did administrative laws kind
of cover the gamut there.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
That gave you some great exposure. Being on both sides
of the fence.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
And having been an advocate to defend people been accused
of something, and then also prosecuting people have been accused
of something.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
It really probably gives you some great insights.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
And then of course, you know as you went into
a federal uh prosecutor's office there that really that's all prosecution.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
But but you've been on the other side of this.
So just to give you anique advantage to under standing
both sides of the art.

Speaker 6 (12:02):
I think I think being having that experience as a
defense attorney made me a better prosecutor. I realized that
I'm both. I was defending human beings as well as
prosecuting human beings, you know, and so it's not everything's
not a hammer and.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
A nail, you know.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
And so it did. It did help me see the
whole picture. Now, there are some very good prosecutors that
do not have defense experience. There's some very good defense
attorneys that that's all they've done in their career. But
I do think it it allowed me to see both sides.
And and you know, in the legislature, to me, it's
not all that, it's not gonna be all that different.

(12:41):
You know, in the justice system, you have you have
folks on both sides of the fence, right, and they're
they're zealously advocating for their positions. Now, you know, in
the political world, you know, you you have a two
party system. I happen to be on the Republican side, right,
and so, but you have folks zealous advocating their positions.
Now I may disagree with how the fundamentally how they

(13:05):
feel in certain issues, but I think this equips me to,
you know, to be able to debate the issues, hold
strong where I am, but hey, we get things done.
And so I was able to, as a prosecutor and
defense attorney, you know, zealously advocate for my clients and
then ultimately you hope justice is served. And that's what
we hope for in the legislature as well, because we

(13:26):
hope East Tennesseeans win.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
So I do have two questions that are not related
to your campaign, but they're of interest I think the
audience might be curious. The first question is, so, obviously
you're pretty good at hunting too, And I say you're
good at hunting because we look the demographics of Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I looked at your campaign site. Your wife is very lovely.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
I believe she's Asian American and less than two percent
of the state of Tennessee's Asian. So either she was
in the Air Force or you went to Korea or
Philippines or so NFL.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
No, no, even even better. So I met her at
my last assignment in the military. She's a journalist. Actually
she was in local news and I was at my
last assignment at Travis And it's funny you mentioned that,
so you will appreciate that, sir. Her father was Korean
Army and joined the US Army and became a citizen

(14:20):
that way and naturalized through the military, and so did
it the right way. And then her mother became a
citizen as well. So it was Korean Army the US Army,
and so that was back in the late seventies. He
was at BRAG. He was at BRAG for a bit
and then went over they sent him back to Korea
where he met her mom and brought her back to
the United States. So she was born in Maryland. But yeah,

(14:42):
I mean, Kathy is amazing. I am a blessed man, sir.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, I would say that that makes a lot of sense.
She had a Korean look about her. That was what
my first inclination was a love the look, lady, and
also the California connection. That makes sense and so a
very interesting Your father served in BIRS four. There's there's
a number of people have done that, but not a
large number. That's got to be quite a different culture
because the Repulic of Korea's army is very different than
the US, right.

Speaker 6 (15:08):
Yeah, So so he went so he was a mechanic
in Indie. You'll call it something bravo. I don't know.
He told me he was a mechanic in the army
and then was a mechanic for the last forty something years.
He just retired in Maryland. Wow, we actually went we
took them back her parents this last July, and we

(15:30):
went back to Seoul and he had not been there
in twenty years, and so it was I mean, it's
completely changed. And so just to see him, just to
see him see his his native land was incredible.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, that had be quite a culture shock for him,
even though he's from South Korea, because South Korea twenty
years ago is not South Korea today, and South Korea
forty years ago is remotely what is today so fascinating.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
Well, he even he even said when he was in Korea,
it's interesting. I hate to quote him on this, but
he he looked out in Korea and he was like,
you know, I'm kind of ready to go back home,
like I'm an American now, Like it's just it's just
I mean, but the soul is beautiful, it's a you know,
it's a beautiful city, clean, but yeah, coming back coming
back to America, he was like, I'm an American.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Now, No, I get that one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
You know, I when I enlisted, before I got my commission,
I was overseas and I came back to Ohio, and
it happened to be five years after because I spent
a little bit time in university. Then when the army
went overseas, I came back and people asked me, bescome
re union. And I went back to the high school town,
not the reunion, what was in and I met people and.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I realized, you can't go back.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
And then I went back twenty years later, and and
you know, I'm not going from a foreign country. I'm
just going back to rural Appalachia. And you're not the
same person. So he's in America now, I mean, because
it's an idea, it's not an ethnicity.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Yeah, that's right, that's exactly same.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Well, you know that story was so fascinating, Brent. I
forgot my other unrelated questions. So if it comes back
to me, I'll get to it. But let's talk about
your campaign. Here is what's the primary focus your campaign?
Obviously I met in law enforcement, and the rule of
law is probably part of it, But what are some
of the key pillars of your campaign.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
Yeah, public safety is a big one. You know, in
Tennessee we have there there's a backlog of of of
cases for certainly DNA testing. So we need to get
some facilities for tv I Tennessee Bureau of Investigations so that,
you know, so that we can push forward. I mean,
violent crime is a is a big issue for me,

(17:28):
and so we need to make sure that the appropriate
people are staying in jail when they commit violent crime
and there's victims involved, that they need to go to
jail and stay in jail for a very long time. Certainly,
as far as you know, I've been prosecuting the drug
trafficking cases and on the federal side, but but certainly
on the state side, we need to make sure that

(17:49):
you know, there's certain levels of drug traffickers. You know,
in every state, there's the actual traffickers that are trafficking
the drugs into the state. They're you know, feeding off
the you know, the citizens in the state. But but
then there's also the folks that are using drugs. They
have substance abuse issues and they're dealing drugs to use
drugs to get by, and so those folks need treatment.

(18:13):
And so we also need you know, mental health and
substance abuse, you know, more public mental health and substance
abuse recovery programs, and so that's that's also important to
me because I mean, it's just it's just a it's
just a cycle and then those folks go to jail
and then they come out they're just you know, it's
it's tough. And so that's that's super important. Growth is

(18:36):
also an issue in Tennessee because people want to move here,
and so it's something we're gonna have to address with
the legislature, you know, our infrastructure, with our growth. I mean,
people are coming in droves to Tennessee because we have
no state income tax, and so you know, people it's
it's it's a great place to live, uh and people
want to come here. But we have to address that.

(18:57):
And so those are the those are kind of the
key millers for me. But but you know, there's there's
there's so many there's so many things that I want
to do and and areas that I want to look at.
And I also I'm not afraid to say I don't
know you know, some things, and that's why I talk
to the members of the public that are first on

(19:19):
those issues.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Well, I gotta be honest with you know, Wyoming is
my next destination if I move, But Tennessee was moving
up there for a while.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Uh, but you know, all let's talk. If you have
drug issues and crime overpopulation.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
Now it's and I and I don't want to suggest
that it's I mean, it's it's it's not it's not terrible.
It's wonderful. It's wonderful. The Tennessee is a wonderful state
to live. But I want to make sure. I mean,
we're a college town in Knoxville, and so you know,
we we want to protect our children. And so I
think that's what everyone wants to do, is protect their
children and their families. And so you know, it's one thing.

(19:57):
It's one thing for drugs to come here. It's another
thing when when they reach our kids, and so, you know,
and so we want to make sure that they were
doing everything we can to protect them.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Well, I remember back in the early eighties, Knoxville had
like a World's Fair and there. Yeah, yeah, uh that
that's uh, that was something. It drew up pretty big crowds.
But I don't think the US has ever had another
World's Feir. We had one in Seattle back in the sixties,
and then we went to Knoxville in like eighty or
eighty one, a two somewhere around there. I don't recall
what it was, but the world got to know Knoxville.

(20:30):
And it's been a long time since that happened.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah, Yeah, we got the we got the domed World's
Fair Park. Downtown, it's you know, everyone frequents for all
the holidays, that's where everyone goes downtown. They've they've rejuvenated
since I went to college, you know, twenty years here,
twenty five years ago. I mean, they've they've really rejuvenated downtown.
So like like a lot of these you know, mid
mid sized cities, and so it's it's lovely down there.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well where you're at located there on the western edge
of the Appalachians there it is an absolute beautiful part
of the country. You know, Pigeon Forge just below you
there and some quite lovely stuff. The topic you brought
up a few moments ago about people moving in are
there really a lot of pressures?

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Are there a lot of people moving into that area?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Are you using a lot of agricultural land, Because in Pennsylvania,
I've had my fill I mean, the only people buying
an agricultural land in the Amish. Everybody else is tearing
up and put warehouses in. I mean, this is going
to turn into Amazon Central. I'm embellishing, but there are
more warehouses within twenty miles of me than I've seen
in my entire life before I moved to Pennsylvania, and
none of them were there ten years ago. It's crazy.

(21:33):
Do you have the same sort of growth problem?

Speaker 6 (21:35):
Yeah, I think we do. I think we do have
a growth problem. But I think we need to look
to I mean, you know, our state motto is agriculture
and commerce, and I think we need to be focusing on,
you know, keeping keeping agriculture in, you know, encouraging folks
to continue to grow props in Tennessee, keep it in Tennessee.

(21:57):
And that's that's the issue that we're going to have
to look at because I mean, yes, there's agricultural land,
but I'm not sure that a lot of people are
doing the farming, and so we want to encourage folks
to farm and stay and keep everything in the state right.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
So you know, of course, Tennessee for those who some
of our listeners are from overseas, are listening to tonight,
but a lot here in the States. Not everybody knows
that Tennessee's nickname is a volunteer state, and there's a
good reason for that. Of course, you volunteered to serve
in uniform. From your experience in uniform, even though you
were an attorney. Todd made a point about that, but
do you think we're attorney? What was the most useful

(22:36):
thing that you think you bring from to serving the
legislature if you get in that position having served in uniform.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
You know, I think I've met all types of people,
and I think, you know, people in rural Tennessee are
different than people than Knoxville, are different than people around
the country, and so I think I bring even though
I am born in Tennessee and southern through and through,
I have experienced life outside both in the United States,

(23:06):
and I've tried cases all over the world, and so
I think I believe bring some diversity to the legislature
in you know, I've seen what they have around the
world and know how wonderful things are in Tennessee, and
I appreciate it more having been to those places, and

(23:26):
I can bring that to the legislature and say, hey,
we have something special here and we need to keep
it special here. And so that's something that my military
service has helped me to experience.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
You know, I think you just encapsulated three very important
points that I think the audience should to catch on
to and any potential voters for you. You talked about diversity,
but you talked about genuine diversity. You know, we all
are devastating the hands of an all white guys here
in the chat tonight, but you talked about genuine diversity.
Diversity is not diversity of appearance. Diversity is diversity the

(23:58):
experience and what you can bring to the table. And
I think that's a great point you just mentioned. I
don't know if that was your intent, but certainly that's
what I inferred from it.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Number Two, you talked about having met all.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Sorts of people, and that reminds me when I went
to Basic training and I was I messed with people
in nineteen eighty three who came from all over the
country from all kinds of backgrounds.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
And of course I grew.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Up, you know, shooting things, you know, with rifles and
shotguns and handguns and turkey shoots. And I went to
the range with Posey Private Posey was just across the
border from you there in Kentucky, and he was in
tears when they handed in M sixteen and he fired
it for the first time. He was terrified of a weapon.
So the point there I'm giving is it having served
the uniform. Your point you made was that you've dealt
with all sorts of different people, and so having exposure

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to all these different people really gives you a big advantage.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
I think when it comes you understand where people coming from.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Yeah, in the military, honestly, I think they are a
little more advanced there, I mean ahead of the curve there.
If you will, you know you're in you have one mission,
you have one goal. Really could care less about gender, race, ethnicity, whatever.
You have this one common goal and you're serving together.
And so I think I think if I think we
would all be a better off if if we looked

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at life that way as opposed to you know, how
we see race and and all the other things that
we see. I think if if we we all realize
that we're in this together, I think we would be
in a better place.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Well, I agree, and you know, the Army, it's one team,
one fight. That's what we say mm hmm, And I
think that makes all the difference.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
It doesn't matter, you know, it's fascinating. So and the
third point slipped me from the moment there. But the
things you.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Brought you said there all really I think encapsulates some
really good points about why you would be great in
the legislature.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
What is your first priority in that position?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Oh, man, I get I'm gonna have to give you
a tough one.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
Yeah, I really think so. For me, mental health is huge,
and so we have a Knoxville coalition that's been working
on mental health in Knoxville and downtown. We have a
homelessness problem, but really substance abuse and mental health is huge,
and so we need to We need beds in Knoxville.

(26:10):
We send we send our folks. If someone has a
mental health crisis in Knoxville for over twenty three hours,
there's a place called Helen Ross mcnaw They have some beds.
But if they go over twenty three hours and have
a mental health crisis, they have to go to Chattanooga, Tennessee,
which is an hour and a half away. So do
same thing in Nashville. And so my small town, rule
town two and a half hours away. They send their

(26:31):
folks to Nashville, and so I'm not sure why. Again,
we have a fifty nine billion dollar budget, and you know,
all of our public mental health hospitals in Tennessee are
about one hundred and ninety nine million dollars is what
we spend. And so to me, that's a small percentage
to pay. And again, you talked about healthcare earlier. I

(26:54):
believe I mean a lot of our hospitals and this
is around the country. This is just Tennessee, this is
around the country. Rual healthcare around around the country. When
folks don't have mental health services, where do they go?
They go to the er. And so then the folks
that need the help in the er, they're not getting
the help they need because the folks for mental health

(27:15):
they can't really do a lot for them in the er.
You know, they can see them for a little while
and then they turn them out. But that's that's the
problem we have in East Tennessee and it needs to
get fixed right away. And so it'll help both healthcare
in Tennessee and mental health. It'll get people relief, and
so that's my top priority going in. But obviously we've

(27:38):
been kicking the can on traffic and Knoxville. As Todd knows,
we can get to plan together. I think we have
a plan. We're going in the right direction, but we
need to get something done this next year because we
have the growth and we need to do something with
the traffic. So those are the big issues.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Chris Well, you know, that's fascinating.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
It's not often that a candidate steps up and says
mental health issue is the top issue. I think that's
refreshing to hear because that address is a very serious concern.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Now, let's be honest, our.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Nation as a whole has ignored or neglected for the
most part.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
I mean, there are resource devoted to it.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
But if we could divert billions of dollars that they're
spent in states, but nationwide for unnecessary healthcare, for lifestyle
related choices, for unnecessary type two diabetes and hypertension and
things like that, where if people just lived healthier lives
of their own accord, those resources could help in the
mental health area, and we definitely have some mental health issues.

(28:34):
Not to make light of the topic, but I mean,
you know, it was pretty obvious in the White House
and the last term that you know, mental health is
rather important. You can see that the mental acuity matters.
We saw that in the last term there, So that's
fascinating that you brought that up. I appreciate that. And
the growth issue is also another one. So earlier Todd
talked about this text, the message that went out there

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and this rather nasty thing. I'm just I'm gobsmacked that
someone from Tennessee would be considered a carpetbagger.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
It sounds like they think you're a carpetbagger. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
I well, and again, listen, I'm taking I'm taking the
high road, Chris, I'm not. Again, I just want people
to know that I'm here to just make a difference.
I'm a simple veteran that served for eleven and a
half years. I'm still in the reserves, and then I

(29:27):
came back to my community and served for the last
eight years prosecuting drug trafficking cases. And I just want
to make a difference. And honestly, if you want to
call that the swamp, you know, it's shameful. It's not
the swamp. You know, I was doing my duty as
a military officer, so.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well, I wouldn't call it the swamp.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
I of course, then you know you Todd and myself,
of all served uniform, I was in the army thirty
six and a half years, and trust me, during those
thirty six and a half years, I was still at
Ohio resident Even though I have lived in Ohio since
nineteen eighty nine, I was paying taxes there and that's
where my driver's license was, and that that's where I voted.
They lived there all around the world. I didn't vote
anywhere else. So I appreciate that, but I think people
loose sight of that sometimes. You know, it's fascinating the

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culture in America where people respect the military, or by
default they think they're supposed.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
To respect the military.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
But when it comes to something like that, people lose
sight of things. You know, you make a lot of sacrifice. Now,
in your case, that worked out well, you met your
lovely wife, so you know.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
That's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
But people they miss family reunions, they miss births, they
miss deaths. They serve in combat, they serve in deployments
overseas for long periods of time away for their family,
and I think a lot of times people lose sight
of that. Even people used to serve in uniform, they
forget about that. So whatever that nonsense about you being
a carpetbagger, I'll just throw that out the window because
that's nonsense.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
That's what that is. That's just.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
But I'll tell you, you know, I was thinking about Chris,
if you don't mind, I was thinking about before he
came on here, you know, and and what we've we've
we've kind of offt side of and you know, growing
up in rural Tennessee. You know, we sat around the table.
I remember, you know, sitting around the table with me
and my mom and my stepdad and my you know,
my parents were divorced young. I had a good situation.

(31:06):
I mean I was. I'm close to all my family
and stepparents and stuff. But we growing up, you know,
we we set around in the dinner table and ate
every night with the six of us, you know, set
our prayers and ate dinner. And you know, I don't
I don't know that we do this in that generation,
this generation anymore like in in the word we did,

(31:26):
We've lost We've lost that. And I think, you know,
family values. I need I think we need to start
looking inside and looking to ourselves and be like, maybe
that's how we make our country better as we get
back to that, you know, sitting around the dinner table.
And I mean we're in a dated with social media
and you know, gaming and whatever, and the kids are

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not around the table, you know, and so but you know,
I hope we can get back to that eventually. That's
really And in the military, I think with the military,
you know, you're you're you're together because you're going from
assignment to simon and you're staying together, and so the
military keeps you kind of together. And so I think

(32:10):
I think you get that. You can you maintain that
appreciation being from the military, well.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
I think one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
You know, the thing about all this is that is
that some people just lose sight of that. But you know,
when it when it comes to what you're talking about there,
we have lost something in America, and it's been obvious
in the two urn and fiftieth anniversary of our decoration Independence.
When I was a kid, and maybe John was a
kid then too, the time wasn't But when we were kids,
the bi centennial was the biggest thing ever. People think

(32:40):
the FIFA World Cup is something big. It was it
pailed to comparison to Bisonennial.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
I mean it was ever.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
It was on Weaedi's boxes, it was on you know,
things you picked up at the store. It was on
shopping bags, you know, every everywhere you went with the BYZANTINEO.
This time getting people excited about the turnred fifty university
decoration in Dependence. It's almost like I had to get
out and poke them with a stick. Obviously there are
many patriotic Americans, but it was ubiquitous last time. We've
lost a bit of our spirit and we've also lost
the volunteerism that we once had in this country. You know,

(33:06):
we struggle to get people to help with the Legion,
with the VFW, with Kawanas, with the Lions Club, with
the Scouts, all these things. And going back to your point,
not not to use a tried statement, but faith, family,
and flag I think plays a lot in this. And
for me, the turning point came in two thousand and
eight when the financial crisis happened that was unnecessary, the

(33:28):
government provoked. And then what came after that with Obama
coming in office and ever since then, this country seems
to have drifted off its moorings and lost its way.
And I believe part of that without being a person
of deep faith who goes to church regularly, but that
a person of faith. I do believe that whatever a
person's faith is, whether it's Christianity, Judaism, or Islam, we've
lost that too, and I think that plays a big role.

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And if more people were people of faith, they would
probably gather around the table more often.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Do you disagree with that or do you think that
makes sense? Now?

Speaker 6 (33:55):
I agree with that. I agree with that. I think
we've lost some of that. You know, whatever your faith is, like,
I think if more people focused on that, I think
we would we get, would get we would be focused
more on family and faith and in sitting around the
table and being together for sure.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Well, Tod, I'm gonna turn over Todd here in second.
Wouldn't be fair to let him, you think, no questions
in he's obser company. But before we do, I don't
think it's fair of me to ask you your wife's
political role, because I mean, you know she's not out there,
but on your website, I am gonna I'm not gonna
let you slide on this. There is a French poodle,
a chocolate French poodle. What is your Is that your dog,
and what is this.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
MENI golden doodle?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Okay, okay, okay, wow, that's what I thought. I knew
it was a god.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I don't know dogs, man German shepherds.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I want to know what his political beliefs are. Okay,
all right, well whatever he is.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Okay, your wife gets a free pass because sometimes fail
was in divided politically, but the dog doesn't get a.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
Free every day, so she's supportive too.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
So okay, we're I think we know where she's coming from.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Then, okay, all right with that, I'll turn it over
to Tod for questions.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I appreciate it. We're talking to Brent Jones.
Brent as an Air Force veteran, former prosecutor, still an attorney,
and of course he is a native of Tennessee and
not a cat carpetbager. You can find more about him
at Brent Jones for TN dot com next Brent Jones
FORTN dot com.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
All one word, and I think.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
The Colonel did take up a lot of had a
lot of good questions there. You talked about mental health.
You know, in the American legion we talk about be
the one, of course, be the one to end suicide.
In the veteran demographic. Of course, in Tennessee, we're focusing
on ending suicide across the board.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Think about it.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
You know, ages tend to say twenty four to twenty five,
about sixty five hundred people in that age demographic commit
suicide on an annual basis. A lot of it does
have to do with mental health, for sure, but I
think another part of it is probably is bullying in
our schools and issues with bowling. What are some things
that maybe you would focus on in the legislature that
did with deals with bowling and things of that nature.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
Yeah, yeah, Todd, And and I'll start with you know,
when I was a defense attorney in the Air Force,
I lost in Airman that I was defending, you know,
to suicide in Alaska, and and so that that really
touched me. It was it was you know, it's just
it was tough. It was tough to deal with because
I I really think he was going to be acquitted

(36:19):
and it was just you know, what he was facing.
But but I do think I do think we need
to look through look at social media and how how
we're dealing with that because bullying is is huge. I mean,
you know, screen time in schools. I mean, we we
have these kids with you know, cell phones at all times,
and and we can't as as you know, family. I mean,

(36:40):
my wife and I got married later we're trying to
have kids and and and that sort of thing. But
you know, and I hope we're we're blessed to do that.
But but again, the stuff that kids are facing these
days is nothing like we faced, right, I Mean, it's
just they're inundated with with their you know, with their
where their cell phones and and you know, I can't

(37:02):
imagine what they're going through. So we just we have
to look at it, and obviously you with school board,
I mean, we have to look at how we can
help these kids give them relief because because kids can
be nasty.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
For sure. I was a kid too, you know, and
you know.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
When and and and the kids that are they're they're
they're not I mean, how they're able to deal with that.
They're just not equipped, you know, mentally to deal with
with someone bullying them. Yeah, and so it's it's it's stuff.
We we definitely have to look at it and see
how we can address it. But I certainly that's that's

(37:40):
that's certain certainly.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
An issue, good deal. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
So now looking at the legislature as it's currently made up,
I know you're not gonna know who all is going
to go back to the House if you will, But
who are some of the people maybe down there that
you would partner with or maybe that you would want
to kind of, uh, I don't know, work with on
a more regular basis if you want on issues. Uh,
some of the House members that maybe uh you're you're you're,
you're interested in it. Maybe uh I had a better
relationship with Yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
So so there's uh, you know, certainly, certainly here in Knoxville.
I mean we got you know, we got two solid
senators and Senator Bikes and Senator Massy here in Knoxville,
and so so obviously you know Zachary and Karringer they're
they're down here as well. But but I also my
father has some connections in East Tennessee or in Middle Tennessee,

(38:25):
and so certainly with with Kelly Keasling, and he represents
Macon County, uh in several counties around there. But but
but I'm going to look to you know, I have
some connections in Middle Tennessee, and so I want to
make sure that you know, we built some coalitions we
see where where we can agree on some issues. I

(38:46):
mean we have you know, we have a super majority
of Republicans in Tennessee, and so we should be able
to get several things done. But but honestly, you know,
I'm looking to help out East tennesseeans. And so if
I can, if I can work with, you know, help
Middle Tennessee get get some things that they need, or
or West Tennessee get some things they need. But but

(39:08):
then they know me, get some things I need in
East Tennessee. That's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Compromising. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
That's exactly how it.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Works, absolutely for sure. And and I like the fact
that you look at Tennessee. It doesn't end in Knoxville.
It extends all the way up to Johnson County and
goes all the way to Shelby County.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
And that's the way it should be.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
A lot of people look at Tennessee ending at certain
points and they want to look at their own little area,
their own little fiefdoms, and we should look at it
all together here as one vall Firs state.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
Yeah, that's how I like that for sure.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
I'm want to turn over to John.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
I'll come back here in a few seconds toward the end,
but I'm gonna turn over to John real quick.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
We could John go ahead.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Oh yeah, hey guys, microphone sound okay?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Now, yeah, you just did where It's like we're all
sitting in the same room. All of a sudden, I
thought this was nineteen fifty Soviet broadcast for a little while.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
The Yeah, yeah, I saw your comment there, Chris, and
I I don't know what was going on, but I
think I might have found it. Uh So, Yeah, I
was sending or listening to you talk there on Brent,
and you're talking a lot about healthcare. And I think
i've seen here recently that the Affordable Care Act has
gone up twenty percent due to go up another fourteen percent.

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People are really struggling with healthcare. And so how do
you think that's gonna affect Tennesseeans? And as a representative,
what do you think you might be able to do
for that?

Speaker 6 (40:25):
Yeah, it's it's tough. So so one one thing I've
looked at, and again this is just something I'm looking at,
is you know, giving giving nurse practitioners a little bit
of more leeway, you know, I don't know about full
practice authority, but some states are doing that, especially rule states,
and so it it would help out, uh, you know,

(40:49):
the rural counties around Knoxville, if if nurse practitioners, I
mean as you you guys know, if you've been to
the doctor, a lot of times you'll make a you'll
make an appointment with physician and and you'll usually go
see the nurse practitioner, right, and so a lot of
times the nurse practitioner is doing a lot of the
care just for general practice. I'm not talking about specialty care,

(41:12):
but for general practice, the nurse practitioners doing.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
A lot of that.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
And so that would be a way for if you
get them involved, then that's the way, you know, we
can deal with some of the rule healthcare issues that
we have in Tennessee. And some of the other states
have done that, and so it's something that I intend
to look at. John is is you know, how can
we help you know, obviously want to encourage more physicians

(41:37):
to come in you know, I Tennessee, we do not
you know, we do not we do not accept all
the federal funds that we could from the Affordable health
from the Affordable Care Act and so but again I
understand why certainly, because once you start taking federal money,
then you know, maybe you know you you have to

(42:01):
take federal money. Yeah, exactly, and so you know, obviously
we have to look at that. But but again I'm
looking at other ways to do that, other ways to
to help our healthcare in Tennessee without without taking all
the federal money.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
That.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Yeah, absolutely, U states lack independence when they start depending
on the federal government for money, and then they that's
called victim to dictates and arbitrary decisions they don't want.
That's right, That often trip them up. Uh So, a
lot of the issues going on in most states that
I see is drug issues are leading to a lot
of the issues you're talking about. And I did hear

(42:38):
you earlier saying about the TBI, uh making sure that
they're well funded for Tennessee Bureau of Investigations. You talked
about crime, and the first thing I thought of was Memphis, Tennessee.
That must be where most of your crime is happening.
A lot of its well known. Not Shrille, I think
has some rough areas to my understanding. Uh So, fighting crime,

(43:00):
do you think that's going to be beneficial to healthcare.
I mean, as far as if you can get drugs
off the streets, people won't be dealing because drug can
be mind altering, and drugs can be long term mind altering.
And if I find it interesting because the liberal left
is over here trying to fight Trump on border security,
and so I'm wondering how you may secure the state
of Tennessee to ascertain that people will no longer be

(43:23):
listening the drugs to fifth graders. I mean, we send
our children to the public schools, and these drug dealers
are recruiting children to sell drugs to our children in
these public schools. It's ridiculous because our target targeting children
for long term customer base more or less, if you will.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
Right, yeah, yeah, John. So in Tennessee we have obviously
our drugs are coming from Mexico. It's it's the way.
Well in Knoxville, for sure, our methamphetamine and cocaine come
up through Atlanta, certainly from Mexico. Our fentanyl in fact
comes from Detroit, Michigan, and so that's uh, but again

(44:00):
from Mexico. And so you know someone someone is illegally
bringing across the border from Mexico. But certainly when you're
talking about Memphis, you know, parts of Knoxville, parts of Nashville.
You know, there it's it's gang related. It's getting from
the immigrants, the illegal immigrants across the border, and then

(44:22):
it's getting to the gangs, and the gangs are bringing
into the state. And so certainly we have to continue
fighting both the gangs and the illegal immigrants that are
bringing the drugs from Mexico. And so it's, you know,
it's it's a multifaceted kind of you know, how we
how we approach it. And you had mentioned Tennessee Beeer
of Investigation. I want to briefly there. They have provided

(44:43):
the state legislature has provided, you know, significant resources to
the Tennessee Bueer of Investigation recently, and so the alt
kudos to them. They have done they have done that.
But our facilities. We have bodies, but our facilities, there's
not enough facilities there, and so we need to make

(45:04):
sure that we have enough facilities to be able to
do their jobs even though we have the bodies. And
so that's what we have to look at as well.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
So, you know, I've had something to my crawl for
a while and I've been looking at. We used to
have militia in every state, and of course some states,
well all states still have laws regarding militia. But in
nineteen oh three we had a military Act to get
rid of the militia within the states and replace them with
the National Guard. But I'm wondering, and now you have
judges ruling against Trump said you can't use the National

(45:35):
Guard for law enforcement. From my understanding, that was the
intention of militia in the first place. So I'm going
to wonder your state, probably like state of New Hampshire,
does have laws regarding militia. Do you see an avenue
where you may be able to recruit citizens to work
with law enforcement officers to actually develop a militia again
and maybe take strinks back And it's way out there,

(45:58):
I realized, And I'm really timed traveling back because I
feel like we lost something. I feel like we lost
the first half or a second Amendment rights when they got
rid of the statement.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
We do have a state Guard though in the state,
though we do have a state Guard.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Well, they they the militias didn't go away.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
They were transformed into the National Guard by the Russia
after nineteen oh three and then two subsequent acts in
nineteen thirty three, in the National Defense Act of forty seven.
I thinks, but the National Guards, they're under state control
unless they're federalized. But there are some states to have
some mid things. A couple of states like Ohio has
a navy. People know Ohio has a navy.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
We do have a state guard, and they're an emergency
like communications.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Like right, the extra response and things like that, but
they're not used to be.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
I think, what job is getting unorganized militias referred to
the National Guard we referred to as an organized militia
where and they're not really the militia. They are federally funded,
federally controlled, and they are state controlled, but they are
also controlled by the federal government. But the unorganized militia
will be a citizen's militia. That was the Second Amendment.
That's the first half of the Second Amendment, in which

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nobody regards anymore. They don't think about it anymore. To me,
that's where you start building strong communities. So I kind
of brought this up because Christ referred to earlier about
the removal of going to church, the kind of the
attacks a left have done on church and to tearing
down of God and communities in church and communities, and
we used to have connectivity through church. We used to
have connectivity prior to that through militias because you were

(47:24):
you would muster a militia. Man, we get together, they'd
have conversations, right, we have concerns about what's going on
in their states. These are the states and counties and
cities they were defending. So I'm kind of wondering if
we were to enact such a thing. I don't know
if you get people to volunteer or not. I can't
say to that, but I'm just wondering, can you find
strengths because we usually have a shortage of law enforcement,

(47:45):
a shortage and funding for law enforcement. But to have
such a thing might actually develop strengths again in communities
and help drive back these crimes that are happening in
the communities to protect citizens.

Speaker 6 (47:57):
No, I get what you're saying, John, I I just
you know recently in Tennessee they did and I so
at the US Attorney's Office, we would actually go to
the do the training, some of the uh some of
the constitutional training in search andcies you're training and law
enforcement training for the local police department, and so we

(48:19):
would go over there and do their training. And so
I've seen they've they've provided significant resources recently for local
law enforcement. And so you're seeing more people want to
join and so which is which is which is fantastic,
you know, and so you're seeing a huge increase and

(48:40):
I mean our I believe our Knoxville Police Department is
is fully up to speed. So people people actually are
wanting in Tennessee here uh to serve in law enforcement now,
which is nice.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
To see an auxiliary police like a law enforcement for
volunteers and stuff like that. Is that what you're referring
to or is this.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
Now, No, this is just the actually joining local law enforcement,
so both the sheriff's office and the local police department.
And so.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
Yeah, some departments do have auxiliaries like my mine and
Mike County has an auxiliary. They do traffic control, crowd
control things like that. Also if the deputy doesn't have
a partner, like in a crowd situation, they can augment
them if you will, stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
It's pretty where Brent's bringing up that there are people
that are interested. Now it's a growing Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
We got about two minutes there.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
John Okay, why don't we bring a chance to uh
to wrap up some comments, let people know where they
can find him, so and and and uh they can't
go vote for him.

Speaker 5 (49:43):
Absolutely, get anything we haven't touched on by all means,
throw it out there.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
No, no, it's it's great.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Listen.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
I thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it.
You know, Early voting starts next Friday, July seventeenth. I'm
on social media. It's all Brent Jones for t in
dot com and then Brent Jones for T in Instagram, Facebook.
I got a commercial coming out next week that has
a little bit more about me. Honestly, it's just I'm

(50:11):
trying to get my name out there because you know,
the incumbent, she's listen, she's she's served, she's been in
her community for twenty years. She's a Republican. I voted
for two years ago. I think I'm the most qualified
person in the race. You know, certainly I have the
military service, and I've been fighting for our country and
her community for the last twenty years, and so certainly

(50:33):
I would appreciate everyone's vote. I feel called to do this.
I really think I can make an impact in the
state legislature for the people of East Tennessee. And so
I'm super excited about this run. This is my first
campaign certainly and I and I don't plan to stop here,
so I plan to keep representing the people, hopefully hopefully
in January and in the future, the people of East Tennessee.

(50:55):
So thank you guys so much for having me on.
I truly appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
All right here here Brent Jones, air Force veteran lawyer,
and go ahead, Konnel closes out there.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
No, it's going to say that. That's fantastic, Brent. I
wish if that's a luck in your campaign. Just taking
a look at your opponents while John was asking questions there,
and I wish you all the best to you and
your lovely family. And I don't have any pets, but
if that dog gets loose and it gets up this way,
you might not.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Get it back. I want to say that he's pretty
crapped up. It looks pretty adorable. So anyway, all right,
well we have folks.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
If you want to find Brent, you can look him
up there and hopefully if you're interest in voting former
supporting his campaign, you can do that.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
But that's going to wrap it for this hour. Back
in the next hour with news and the war is back on.
We'll see you shortly. Cheers.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Memorials of Distinction for people who care gates any monument.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Good to hear them again. Hey guys, welcome back.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
That was an interesting conversation with Brent Jones there, not
NFL quarterback, but actually a candidate for a representative in
East Tennessee. You know, Todd before you respond, you know,
I think a lot of people might be curious.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
I know the answer. You can correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
On your hat, you're wearing the symbol of Tennessee, which
has three stars. They're not anyone above the other. They're
kind of equid placed apart and kind of in a circle.
And that's because they represent the three regions of Tennessee, East, Middle,
and West Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Did I get it right? Right? You got it correct? Yeah?
Cool beans.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Hey, you get a lot of people always wonder what
that means why Tennessee has three stars, because Texas has
one star.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
It's a lone star state.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
And so, in fact, the joke that George Bush Junior
cracked when he came to Liberia for his presidential visit
in two thousand and eight. Is that one of whys
twenty and eighty came and he spoke and he said,
you know, President Johnson Surley, if you and I both
come from lone star republics, because he's from Texas anyway,
because the library is one star of the like right, yeah, well,
I'll tell you Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
The way it's set up is, you know, you had
the mountains in the east, you have the plateau in
the center part of the state, there is Central and
of course the River Valley's in the west. So it's
three parts of Tennessee, the three states of Tennessee. So
it is actually very distinct the entire state. You go
to the west and talk about colloquial things in the east,
and people are like looking at you, like, what are
you talking about? You're a foreigner even though you're just

(53:24):
rolling from across the state. I'm serious.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
That true story is that?

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, all right, well John, President Trump isn't pussy footing
around anymore.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
There's scum. There's scum. John looks very excited about that.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Well, you know, it's uh, while we've been through this
number of times, right, you got to take care of business.
This regime was never we said it a number of times,
they were never going to come to the table. They
only played games. They probably only played games just to
buy time. And so yeah, I mean, I don't like
the advocate for war. I don't like the idea of
having to do this sort of thing. But since he

(53:58):
started it, and so we're in it. And the outcome
of it if he handles this and he gets rid
of this stinking regime that has been disrupting the Middle East,
has been disrupting the globe. It's been a big, big
pain in the butt for everybody. You got so many
people in Iran that want Trump to fad. I mean,
they're begging for Trump. They're like, hey, listen, there's bombs
going off behind me. I'm close proximity to what's happening,

(54:20):
and I'm telling you, I'm loving Trump for what he's doing.
It's time to get rid of these rotten people off
the face of the earth so they can stop disrupting.
True peaceful people who actually care and want to see progress.
Why don't see things get done. There's a lot of
business to be done. There's a lot of growth that
can happen if they're out of the way, and that's
the problem. They're in the way, and they're funding terrorism

(54:41):
within the Middle East and they're disrupting the globe.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Well, there's a lot of steel that still needs to
be put on target, and that's happening tonight, no doubt
about it. But I remiss if I didn't quickly welcome
the latest arrival to America. And no it's not somebody
that came across the Rio Gred, but in the chat
here one of my viewers from South Africa has just
come over as REFTI arrived Atlanta just moments ago. Congratulations,
Welcome to America, Jody Ackerman and going.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
To Richfield, Minnesota. But welcome to America.

Speaker 5 (55:09):
Yeah, yeah, I just saw that, just landing in Atlanta,
first day in the USA. Welcome, my goodness, and you're
listening to this program. Three white guys run their mouth.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Three angry white guys. At least that's twenty twenty. We
were definitely three angry white guys that next day after.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
That's what people put in the chat, right, three angry
white guys running their mouth.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
We used to have a troll like that.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Yeah, I remember that, that's right, love it.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
I don't remember that. But I was just thinking the
twelve angry white men, that's that.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah, yeah, the jury so but Todd Trump is taking
the gloves off, at least he says he is.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
Well, let's see what happens, and what is taking the
gloves off actually mean? You know, uh, we're going to
try to kill everybody. We're just going to kill their
their their ability to make war. If you will, hit,
hit their factories, their drone factories, Hit any nuclear factory
that's still up and running, any storage facilities that may
still be out there that we haven't found that maybe
we've decided that is a storage whatever. Man hit it,

(56:07):
Hit their military hard, hitting any military aircraft if they
have any available, even their helicopters.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Hit, hit them hard, knock them out, and be done
with them.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Well, I think the key thing that Trump said, I mean,
other than the entertaining part about them being scum and
he thinks it's all over all that is he said,
if these people had nuclear weapon, they'd use it. That's
what I've been saying all along. This is the existential
threat to the world. You know, people act like, well,
what kin Iran do to us? They're so far away
you can put an inter weapon on a ship and
sail it up to Chesapeake Bay and blow it up.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
I mean, come on, get real here, folks.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Anyway, Oh, the fact that they would fund non state
actors with dirty bombs and things like that, with nuclear material.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Well, and the fact that they're already funding non state
actors and and and and proxy's in Yemen, in Israel, in.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Lebanon, and they're already causing a mess.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
So I'm glad to see that he is is after it.
It's great to see that it's time to end this.
And so I hope that they're bombing. So here's here's
my take. Ands Peel said, So what what's the aftermath?
I want to get you guys. So here's the deal.
When this is all said and done and the regime
change takes place, because at this point the only thing
that's going to make this work is regime change, then
the next regime should be barred from having a navy.

(57:18):
All they should be allowed to have is coastguards for
search and rescue and small zodiacs and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Unarmed, the only weapons they should have are personal side arms.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
But no ships are armed because they present a clear
present danger to shipping in the state Foremost and the
Arabian golf, and that's what they should have.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
No navy going forward, as simple as that.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
And as far as they're border with Russia with the
Caspian Sea, no navy, just searching restricted.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
From that for what eighty years before they were allowed
to have a navy again.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Well, no, the Japanese were allowed to have a navy
pretty quickly, but they went up with self defense work.
Actually Japan was self restrained. They they really are on
their own to restrain themselves.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Right thought.

Speaker 5 (57:56):
Globally, they didn't want a situation where somebody can rise
up a military dictator or something like that take power.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
They were very essentially what happened the emperor was ridden
rough shot by Heriota and these other guys, and.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Then you look at what happened in China, Vietnam and
all that afterwards, you know.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yeah, and so I mean, if you look at a
country that was restricted for military size, it was a
bad example because the reparations and then what happened to
global economy, and that of course was Weimar Germany. Germany
was not allowed to have a navy. Essentially, their entire
naval fleet was scuttled. I mean they sank their ships
using for target practice and what a tragy, and then
the military was restricted to one hundred thousand people for

(58:34):
a country of eighty million people at the time. It's
just just insane and that's not enough for a defense force.
What what I'm suggesting with Iran is that like, for instance,
the Iranian Revolutionary Guard course should be disbanded and many
of those people prosecuted for crimes against humanity and terrorism,
but there should be no navy. And as far as
an air force, they can't have an air force, but

(58:54):
they can't have a navy. They've proven that they're not trustworthy.
And you're right, we need to take out these droad factories.
I mean, it's it's not that hard to do. Why
are they still got drows? How is it we're still
destroying air defense sites and radars. You know, after everything
we already did. Something bizarre is going on here and
it's time to put the hammer down. John, just bring
them up.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
Well, around's good for mobilizing, and that's one of their
strategies is they mobilize a lot, so getting I think
I think of mobile law uh radar positioning things like that,
then it may be difficult to locate that. That was
one of the issues is the way they were mobilizing,
launching missiles and moving again was one of the issues
about UH tracking them down and eliminating that.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Well.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
The question going forward, after all the dust is settled,
is will we if this is settle all Trump's in office,
will we have the audacity to do what's right and
go after the German and French arms manufacturers and others
who equipped the Iranians because we didn't do it in Iraq.
Iraq was supplied by these people for years, especially Germans,
and we never went after these firms because they're they're
they're being you know, involved in the arms traffick to

(59:57):
these rogue states. I think we need to hold these
cupmpanies in Europe accountable for what they've been selling to
a run which is we can't.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
We can sanction individual companies if I'm not mistaken, Am
I right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Individual companies absolutely, and if that's if that's a problem,
you can pass.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
A bill at law that becomes law and then we
prefer I'm right there with you. We should.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
I mean, you're gonna sit there in fun people that
are actually killing your NATO allies even though you're not
necessarily going to get involved. I get it wasn't attack
on NATO, but you're still funny people who are attacking
and killing your NATO allies for crime alone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Yeah, no, it's it's it needs to be addressed. I
mean this, this is something we never went after.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
You see.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
The funny thing is all the left of cin America.
It's all about oil. We're sending our people to die
for oil for Iraq, about oil, US oil companies operating
in Iraq. We don't buy oil from Iraq. Was never
about oil. It was about geopolitical security. And the thing is,
maybe it is about oil, but it is about oil
for US. It's about oil for Japan, for for for China,
for Europe. They're the ones that need to ol.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
We don't be dead. We're not getting it from Iraq.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
And ever had a major America company, but ELF Total,
elf Akatane Total, deeply involved, British Petroleum, deeply involved, Shell,
deeply involved, those people all involved.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
In that place, but not our American companies. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
And you know these leftists, you know they tell these
lies and spread these lies for years all over like
they're spreading butter on bread and people just eat it
up like it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
There's no truth to it, pure lies.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
I mean, that whole thing really torqued the off being
involved in the golf conflict, especially the first one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
It's all about oil. It wasn't about.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Oil, it was about global geopolitical security, right, and we
wound up in a global recession because he invaded Kuwait.
That alone did it. The price of oil nearly quadrupled overnight,
from ten to forty three dollars a barrel, and then
it came back down pretty quickly to sixteen or seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
But the point is that this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Pushed the world, the world economy, which was teetering anyway,
into a recession. In the US it only lasted two quarters,
so it was an officially a recession. But unfortunately for
George Bush, who didn't seem to want to really get reelected,
he allowed James Carver and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
It's economy is stripping it's economy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Now, you moron backwards denanderthal mental reject living in Arkansas,
go back there and keep sleeping with your cousin because
obviously an effective DNA, you know, but utter nonsense, you
know it wasn't about the economy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
That was the big love.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
The US was not in a recession when when Bushes
was lost office, we had an anemic growth. But the
anemic growth was a consequence of the fact that corporations
had never right sized in the nineteen eighties when they
should have. We had lots of corporate fat. And this
is when Eastman Kodak laid off white collar workers left
and right. And if you remember back to the election,
this has always been my premise, and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
One day I'll write a book about it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
But Bush lost the election for numbers, But the biggest
reason lost elections because he lost the upper middle class.
Those people who vote all the time and often low conservative,
had comfy, cushy white collar jobs their entire life, and suddenly,
at the age of forty forty five, fifty to fifty five,
they didn't have a job. And that coincide with nineteen
ninety one, nineteen ninety two, and they blamed George Bush

(01:02:57):
for it. You know, he had approved rating of eighty
nine percent after the golf wur and lost an election.
I had that talk about an own goal. That's worse
to the American soccer team against Belgium.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
Yeah, and then when ross Perot didn't didn't help the
situation in any But of course the way that they
campaign was so just sluggish.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
They just didn't seem like he wanted it, did.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
He didn't seem so he didn't pick James Baker to
be his campaign manager till three weeks before the election.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Before that he had some nobody doing it. Yeah. Yeah,
in the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Past, yeah, rash Parat, rash Parai, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you
gotta go after my kids now. So I got I
gotta witrow from my campaign, even though I'm a head
right now at forty one percent, but I'm gonna leave.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
I'm gonna leave race. Oh you know what, it's been
two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I'm back now at eighteen percent, just to screw it
up for George Bush.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
I never understood that. I never understood that. I'm like,
if if you're afraid that your kids are gonna be
you know, I guess, I guess somebody's cross hairs. If
your president, you're definitely somebody's cross hairs, proverbally or otherwise.
For crying out loud, you're definitely a target more so
than you are just just private business owner. Billionaire Ross Paro,
which also has a bullsoon on your back.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Well, ross Pro could have been president as an independent.
He screwed it, screwed it royally. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
And the sad part is that meant we got Bill Clinton. Yeah,
with a plurality. He didn't win a majority. He got
forty one more.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Yeah something. George Bush was right by him, so he
was forty one thirty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
And and so that cost I mean, if you look
at three out of four voters to vote for Paro
were Bush voters, and that's what cost him election.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Yeah, No, it's just it was you know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
You know, John Anderson in nineteen eighty really didn't cost
anything because Reagan.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Rolled over over Carters. There was no chance Carters they went.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Even if Anderson had been in the race, he only
got he barely got five percent to get the matching
federal money. But you know, it's two of the dumbest
things I've seen in politics was that with ross Pro
entering and then leaving the race and then reining the race.
And then the other one was, you know, and we
had the two thousand and eight financial crisis and we
had two senators running against each other, John McCain, the
Democrat light I mean Republican and and then we also had,

(01:04:56):
of course brock Hussein, Obama and both members of the Senate.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
And then when the whole thing started to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Come out and we started to have the employsure in
the financial markets, both of them suspended their campaign. But
McCay made a big deal about it. I'm suspending my campaign.
I'm going back to Washington. I'm going to fix this. Dude,
you're one of one hundred centers.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
What are you going to ask? I'm going to fix it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
He should have said, I'm going to go back and
work with the Senators to try to fix it exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
And he looked like a complete clown.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
They all blamed it on his pick for vice president,
but nobody cared that she was from Alaska and she
could see the Soak Union from her front ports.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
That isn't important.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Nobody cared about her being picked that after his convention,
he carried a five point bounce ahead of Obama for
two or three weeks after that. It was only after
he said I'm going to Washington fix this, and he
got to Washington, nothing happened, and he looked like an idiot.
And then Obama closed and won the race in America
went on a path of destruction from there.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
Right, absolutely, Yeah, I noticed that the numbers just in
that week he was in DC tick for Obama.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
He went the wrong way and he can never recover
after that. Now, and election was right around the that
was in October. So yeah, that's two of the dumbest
political things I've ever seen. And the other dumb thing
I've seen is that there is no widespread fraud. It
doesn't take widespread fraud to still election. Just to ask
the Richard Dixon and Chicago nineteen sixty cost him the
election one state, one state and he one Hawaii, only

(01:06:18):
for them to recount and suddenly, you know, Kennedy won
by one hundred and fifty seven votes or something like
that at a fifty thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
No, it doesn't take much to take an election. It
just takes one more vote, that's all it takes. And
it's easy to get one more vote when you commit fraud.
So the gloves are coming off. What about Todd? What
about this concept that President Trump is going to ask
Supreme Court to relook the birthright citizensue case. I think
it's the worst decision the Supreme Court has made since

(01:06:45):
Roe versus wait, no, I agree.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
Well he had the FIFA president relook at a red card,
so why not have that worked? It worked, why not
go for him? Two out of three won't be bad
on this situation. Go for it, buddy, I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Go for it. John, Uh, well, interesting, I don't know.
The Supreme Court generally goes back and looks at something
once they made it ruling in such a short period
of time. But if he can do it, by all means,
get him to look at it. But I don't, you know, Well, yeah,
but I mean they're so busy. I mean they select cases, right,

(01:07:20):
you can cases are like we can handle five.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Well, the Supreme Court is elected for life. But they
do respond to politics. This example of the have respond So.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
If enough pressure is put up there, you simply need
to have a different angle and come at it from
a different aspect.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
And it's very easy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
They didn't consider the the actual drafting of the amendment.
The fifteenth Amendment was drafted in a very specific fashion.
The authors of it are very specific. Their papers are available,
they're part of the archives, their arguments were made in
the Senate.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
It's all there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
And so the fact that the Supreme Court, I mean,
the dumbest thing here was John Roberts saying that clearly
the passage the fourteenth Amendment implied that these people are
entitled to all rights of citizens.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Well, number one, that's not true because, as I said, they.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Didn't get the right to vote. And number two, there
were many people's country didn't have rights who weren't even
considered citizens Native Americans. Only some Native Americans were citizens
at the time. It wasn't until the twentieth century which
all Native Americans were considered Americans. Until then there were
alien nations inside the United States.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
So this is just nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
John Roberts really dug that when out of his fourth
point of contact, I mean, that thing came out covered
in a brown substance.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
It still reeks a couple of days after it happened.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
Yeah, a colorful way awarded it there, Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Well, that avoids the censors and the profendity. You know,
FCC won't come looking for me. Yep, a brown substance
that smells days later.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
Yeah, But where where does he come up with some
of his ruling, Like there'll be times whenever whenever he
went in there during the Bush days there in forty
three days w I was like, man, okay, I'm optimistic.
I think he's going to be a reasonably conservative, you know,
right guy on most things. And he's went left on
a lot of things that I thought, you know, he
should be right there, middle right, you know what I'm saying,
more conservative, And on this one he botched this one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
I thought.

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
I thought for sure he would do one of those
things where he would surprise me and vote with the Conservatives,
and he was typical in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Now, look, when John Roberts was dominated be the chief executive,
I thought, you if he said the chief of the
Justice Supreme Court, he wasn't even on the court. And
I still shake in my head, I'm like, what is this.
Why don't you pick someone that's on the courts already there?

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
And he was so young.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
I think he wanted to have that court for many decades.
I think Bush did.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
I think, well, Bush's burdened is with another warren Berger
who's legislations from the bench.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
This guy is an absolute joke. He's not a conservative.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Whenever they whined about six' three, conservative no it's. Not
it's four to four at best with that. Turncoat go both. Ways,
LOOK i Mean Amy Cony barrett is a. Turncoat A
kavanaugh is shockingly a turncoat on far too many. Occasions
the man is only there Because conservatives stood up for
him in The senate and got him through his, confirmation
Especially Lindsay. Grant whether Like lindsay or, not that's Why

(01:10:00):
kavanaugh is. There but he's betrayed us on more than one.
Occasion how come we can't have More scalias and More
Clarence thomas' is on the? Court instead we Get Elena
kagan's and you, Know Katanji Brown jackson and these complete
moronic retards THAT i said it out, loud, Retreads that's
WHAT i meant to. Say retreads that really have no
concept of The. Constitution their job is to adjudicate The.

(01:10:23):
Constitution is it? Lawful does it comply with with the
with The? Constitution if it does, not then you strike
it down otherwise and, look people like but The Supreme,
Court i'm, sorry this is the same court that argued
That plusy Versus ferguson that's separate but equal was fair
under the. Law but it completely violated The Fourteenth amendment
equal protection clause by saying that that white folks could

(01:10:45):
sit on one part of the, bus and black folks
consider in the other, well what if you're brown and you're.
MIXED i Think i'm, white but you look, brown but,
No i'm. White where do you? Sit, no it wasn't equal.
Protection and In plusy Versus ferguson in eighteen ninety, six
they allowed for separate but equal race. Segregation they said
segregation was. Legal no Wonder George wallas had said segregation,
today segregation, tomorrow segregation, always.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Because The Supreme court said so in eighteen ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Six of, course in nineteen fifty four the court got
it right during A republican administration When brown Versus Board, Education,
Topeka kansas overturned that racist court. Decision this is also
the court that correctly but tragedy declared That Dred scott
was property in eighteen fifty seven because he was an
escaped slave.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
And he was. Property that's, sad that's, horrific but that
was the. Law and then complied with the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Law and the same court that got it right in
McCulloch Versus maryland on interstate. Commerce, hey look at, this
we're having a constitutional law. Class something That brockos Sant
obama can't pull. Off and he's supposedly a constitutional law,
graduate right, Right.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Well he would be probably arguing against you on all these.
Things you, know even if you were you were right
on Brown bush and what, education he would take the
counter just because you're the one making the.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Argument chris has a point BECAUSE i remember watching him
In hillary going at, it And hillary said she was
going to make sure that, everybody including, adults was going
to have to get An, obamacare and he corrected her and,
said you can't do that. Constitutionally you can only do
that for children because they don't have a saying you're protecting,
children and then turned around and introduced THE ppaca right all.

(01:12:20):
Citizens so he's a, liar he's a, fraud he didn't
know what he was talking, about or he's just a lierer.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Fraud, WELL i, MEAN i think the word you're looking
for is he's A.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Democrat, yeah that would be the one, encompassing just like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
My distant cousin several times or twice Removed Frankly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Delano, roosevelt who lied to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
The Supreme court claiming That Social security was not a
tax and therefore The garment can impose, it and then
when it was implemented then the next case came up
saying that it was an unjust that they can't do
because it's not a. Tax and they came back, said,
yes it is a, tax and the Stack Supreme court
agreed completely opposite views in the same, term in the same,
timeframe over two different. Cases it's just they twist the

(01:13:02):
logic left to. Right SoC security is A ponzi. Scheme
it is the death of the. Station and it was
followed up by the more Disastrous Medicare medicaid by the,
corrupt foul mouth Racist Lyndon Baines johnson.

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
Administration oh, yeah talking about his bone hole and all
that on those telephone, calls trying to try to order some.
SLACKS i, mean what a. GUY i can tell. You
we do have a question here About mitch. McConnell somebody
wants to know About mitch. McConnell Is mitchell? Alive Is
Mitch daddy's he?

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Brain? Daddy he in a come give me a second clear. Hand, yeah,
yeah he's. Here he's just not. Cognizant there's a lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
But the only thing they can pinpoint is that it
may have been a cardiac arrest based on an emergency
call that they. Reviewed other than, that nobody. Knows you're.
Right he could be sitting in there brain, dead, clinically you,
know illegally, dead and they'll just keep taking that pin
put in his hand and run his hand over a
piece of, paper putting a signature on. Something you, KNOW i,

(01:14:04):
MEAN i don't, know man his wife two days, later
you think she'd be concerned and, Going i've got to fly,
Home but instead she found it more important to be
sitting there In china running around trying to talk to
The Vice president Of china about better economic relationships with
The United states Of, america as if she's got any
authority to speak on that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
Behalf, yeah don't they still have shipping companies with her Family.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Taiwan big shipping. Line, yeah In. Taiwan do you think
she was secretary of? Transportation BUT i know that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Since she accomplished nothing both, times that's really here she.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
Did she was getting her family in on meetings, government you, know.

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
During The bush days and then First trump she was that's, Right,
yeah that's.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
RIGHT i thought she was la friend of.

Speaker 5 (01:14:51):
Mine actually was her BASICALLY i don't say her right,
hand not chief of, staff but she was a manager
out of office there at the end of her term,
there and then the First trump administration she had there's
a photo of her handing her the last briefing book for.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Her time as, secretary which is kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
COOL i mean that the First, trump the First trump,
ADMINISTRATION i scratched my head Why comy wasn't fired on day?

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
One and it came back to Haunt. Trump also the
selection Of.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Jest sessions scratching my, Head Michael flynn to be The
National Security, adviser scratching my, head And Elaine show to
be The secretary Of.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Transportation all of, Those i'm.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
Like WHAT i think What? Trump trump Needed mitch McConnell's.
Support mitch McConnell's stipulation WAS i want my wife To
secretary Of. Transport it that's the WAY i read. It
i'm not saying THAT i.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
THINK i Think mitch McConnell needs amphetamines for support at this. Stage, yeah, yeah, yeah,
anyway it's, just you, know really sad to see these
fossils to stay there. Forever, well the good, news, guys
is that The nazi has come under fire In. Maine
Graham platner facing a deluge of complaints for women survived
that because the leftists don't care if you use, women but,

(01:16:00):
ah when you use THE r, word it doesn't matter
if it's true or.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Not now he's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Toast Even Bonnie thunders has told him to step, Aside
zora and the more End Mom dobbi is telling you
step aside when Those Democratic socialists tell you to step, Aside, todd.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
You know that your goose is.

Speaker 5 (01:16:15):
Cooked, yeah, well, well as far as The New york,
MAYOR i think HE'S i don't want to say he's
nearly as worth As, nazis but his ideology is certainly
as worse As nazis for.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Sure but you, know the guy doesn't have to. GO i,
mean he needs to move.

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
On he thinks he's gonna he's gonna be able to
name a successor during this. Campaign you don't have any
say on anybody at this. Point if you want, to
if you want That Democrat party to, win you need
to just run away. Completely allow The democrat party that's
left to decide who's gonna replace.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
You, well they better do it very. QUICKLY i think
they have four days left before the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Chance yeahs a few, days, yes if just a few,
days and if they don't name another, candidate then they
are gonna be competing Against Susan collins and he won't
be in the. Race so you, know the sad part
about this is is we're stuck With Susan. Collins not
THAT i wanted this nazi in, there but BUT i,
mean The democrats can't even find a Patriotic american who
does that baggage like this. GUY i, mean he looks
Like Craig, stattard looks like A warris out there with

(01:17:06):
that freaking.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
Mustache you. Know that thing is, LIKE i, think is
snicker than a handle bars on a motorcycle on A.
Harley what was?

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
That naxi? Moron, democrat Patriotic? AMERICAN i think all the
Patriotic americans left The democratic Along party a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
Ago well they all joined The Democratic socialists Of.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
America oh, man what a what a party has turned.
INTO i, mean, yeah you're, right it's just not the
They basically we were taken over by infiltrated by The Socialist.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Party see how oh very quickly the whole, thing the
worm turned very Quickly Democratic.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Party BUT i, mean if you look, back we've had
these major waves and turns politically in the, nation and
it doesn't take a lot because one third of the
nation is independent and decides late stage who they're going
to vote. For so we've had this whole swing Where
clinton's pathetic behavior but Got Bush bush and the financial,

(01:18:00):
crisis but Got. Obama plus the golf plus the golf
war that was that was part of it. Too people
after all this time In afghanistan and you, know the
war against the.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Terrorism those two things got Us.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Obama obama's horrible corrupt administration got Us. TRUMP covid got Us,
biden And biden got Us.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Trump all you think about, it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
It seemed like it was a blessing in disguise to,
me because who knows What trump's second administration would have,
Been but that four years down gave him a lot
of time to sit there and, Go, okay we're going
to lay this, Out so day won't we go back in.
There we're going to hit the ground. Running then he. Did.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
WELL i do not disagree with. YOU i think that's
one hundred percent, correct And i've said that many many.
Times but here's the. Thing the carnage that was route
on The United states and the world in the intervening
years is is it's it's not worth. It BUT i,
mean you, know it's it's so frustrating to see how
badly the country was damaged and how about the World
row was damaged by that idiot in his four years in.

(01:19:03):
Office but with the point about the break that way
is he better prepared and has much better people around
him for the most.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Part but also this is. It he's got four. Years
he knows.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
It there's no inter he's got to get it. Done
the clock is, ticking he knows. It, hey, folks thanks
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(01:19:33):
In East Tennessee John grover in the studio In National.
Answer I'm Chris white In central Paid, semanien and we're
talking about our, hero The nazi In, Maine Grand, platin
or the man that apparently doesn't know how to interact with,
women at least in a way that makes women feel.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Respected, ooh DID i say that out? Loud? Todd DID
i say that out? Loud?

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
No, absolutely you, know but here's the, thing and you,
know everybody says believe all, Women believe all.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Women in my, mind whenever heard.

Speaker 5 (01:20:00):
It you, KNOW i heard who did, it And i'm, like,
yeah very likely this, guy he's In neanderthal. Type but
at the same, Time i'm, like, yeah he.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
Does he does deserve his day in.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
Court and at the same, time this isn't this always
happened last minute That october, surprise but you, know something like,
this with what this person has actually, insinuated she's gotten very.
Detailed i'm, like, Yes i'm actually believing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
What she had to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Say.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
Here this isn't just one of Those oh he did
something at a, PARTY i, think and we were.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Drunk da da da. Da now this was more more
specific than. That, WELL i don't know if you guys caught.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
This that's to get too far away from Plattor but
we were talking About mitch McConnell a little bit, ago
and we were talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
ZOMBIES i Mentioned. Biden so WHEN i To mitch.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
McConnell But Governor basher Of kentucky about three hours, ago,
uh Told mitch McConnell he needs to make a public,
statement right he.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Need, yeah because nobody's heard from.

Speaker 5 (01:20:50):
Him, yeah and members of The, senate Actually republican members
of The senate, said are saying they've talked to.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Him, yeah he's on the.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
Phone sounds, good feels, good you, know look forward to
having him. Back And i'm, like, now The governor's, LIKE
i don't know about. THAT i want to talk to. Them,
YEAH i think we should hear what he has to.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Say, WELL i, mean the last TIME i saw him
front of a cameray.

Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
Froze, yeah we're speaking of the podium like that happened
two or three times over the course of a couple of, years, Right, Yeah, No.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
I'm saying this the last TIME i saw him on.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Camera SO i, mean you, NO i think The governor's,
correct AND i think that you, know you, Know i'm.
NOT i have to take a brush up of the
process for moving members of The, senate you, know who
are mentally. Incapacitated we don't have an amendment for, that
but there is a, process but it needs to be.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
Done they need to remove.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Him this guy is a danger and that's a vote
that's lost every time because he's not there and those votes.
Matter and that's one reason why that stupid resolution went
through because well, McConnell did he vote for this? RESOLUTION
i can't remember, anyway The War Powers act, Resolution BUT
i guess they'll gear up for this again here. Shortly
they're going to come After trump with war powers now
that the war's back. On but it is Nighttime interran

(01:21:55):
AND i would hope at this hour Where bomb and
The bejee is at, Him But i've seen no updates
so far this.

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
Evening no. Nothing, YEAH i don't.

Speaker 5 (01:22:01):
Know it'll probably be something after the fact that we'll
get some, Announcement i'm.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Sure well that's kind of how it's. Been you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Know it's it's crazy that every conflict since The Golf,
war whether it Was bosnia or Even, somalia Especially, simonia
but the First Golf, war everything it's all ON. Tv
but this one we just have to read about the
newspaper the next. Day they've really got a tight grip on,
this you, know it's pretty, crazy you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
KNOW i, mean so HERE i am serving in all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
These, wars seeing them up close in, personal but never
see the coverage of it ON. Tv Now i'm not
in The wars anymore And i've not seen the coverage ON.

Speaker 5 (01:22:35):
Tv, yeah it's funny as you know you. HEAR i
have people ask me occasional and they're, like, oh you're In.
Afghanistan did you see this and see this and see?
This and it's, like, WELL i heard something maybe over.
HERE i occasionally see something or hear, something but all
the missiles and rockets and stuff aren't going over you
at any one point where you're. AT i, mean there's it's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
A pretty big country for crying out, loud you know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
EXACTLY i mean ALL i hear are a few things
Wisdom man artillery rounds exploded around, me and you, know
and and rounds going, past and you don't want to
see this, site but tracer is going and landing behind.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
You the ones in front of you don't mind.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Seeing but uh, yeah but when you see, tracers knowing
it's not every round it's a, trace you're, like, geez
that Was.

Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
We're out walking AND i was going to Hear ricola's
rifle being, fired and it's, like, oh it's gonna hit
close blows up right in front of.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
You you, hear you feel the heat off of.

Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
It you're, like, dude that was, close and you got
to check your guys for any, shrap no or anything you,
like BECAUSE i felt the heat AND i felt stuff
whizzen by my head or heard it whizzen by my,
ear And i'm, like that's close right. There that's one
of those. Things but it's not an everyday. THING i,
mean not all the, time you know WHAT i, Mean,
no thankfully it's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Not but you, know so that, sounds of, course are very,
distinct like, like the one of the most distinct Sound
i've ever heard.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
In uniform was the. Vulcan oh, yeah, man that thing
is crazy. Loud the vulcan was. Amazing was the.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
Thirty eight hundre round after after resist standing, up, Cheering, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
WOW i mean it's just it was just.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Crazy that's something else so. Cool but that sounds, like you,
know even To bradley has a very distinct.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
Sound one Of bradley.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Fires you, know it's, yeah exactly twenty five milimeters, Baby,
yeah it's pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Wild, yeah you don't want to be you don't want
to be downrange to.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
That that's not intendive humans that's supposed to pierce, vehicles not,
people but it tears people.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Apart, yeah, no it's, uh it's it's distinct.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Sounds but HERE i am all these wars AND i
didn't see them on television BECAUSE i was in a
lot of. Them now Now i'm on the, ground not in,
uniform and the war's not ON.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
Tv you know what the, HECK i can't even.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
WATCH i have to go back and watch, that you,
know reruns THE cnn or SOMETHING i want to see
on his.

Speaker 4 (01:24:31):
COMPLEX i THINK i Think todd would be fun at
the gun range because he looks like he gets awfully
excited talking about. This.

Speaker 5 (01:24:38):
WELL i used to like going out with the engineers
because they're, like, hey you want to you want to
see some cool?

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Stuff or like, sure you, know what are you gonna?
Do like check this?

Speaker 5 (01:24:45):
Out and they're like and they blow stuff up down
down range and it's, like, man this is just for.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Training it's like they're blowing stuff. Up they're, like, no
that's what's.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
Left over from. Training we're just blowing up the. Excess i'm,
like all, right, whatever you, know it's just fun.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Yeah, well, LOOK i, mean you know a lot of
people really get in get into. That for, Me, uh
there are some angles for, it but that Wasn't it
wasn't the big thing for. Me BUT I i enjoyed serving.
Uniform we've talked about this many many. Times it was
was distinct pleasure and a privilege to actually wear the.
UNIFORM i think some people take for, granted but not. Everybody,
well let me ask you this, question speak about taking
pies for. Granted what do you, Think, john ABOUT us

(01:25:21):
Giving ukraine the authority to Build patriot missiles and obviously the.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
Technology, Okay, UH i just that's kind of news to,
me to be. Honest but, YEAH i hadn't read.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
That oh, yeah well we're going.

Speaker 4 (01:25:34):
To GET i. Know trump said he had a conversation
With zelenski recently and just he, said good. Conversation nice
guys like. That that should have.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Been that should have, been he said at The native
summ In turkey, today he said he's going to give
information to build The patriot can do.

Speaker 5 (01:25:48):
So so what what kind of uh yeah he?

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Can well what kind of what? Version you? Know WHAT i?

Speaker 5 (01:25:54):
Mean it could be an earlier version of The. Patriot
it may not be the most up to date. Version
PERHAPS i don't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Know, well, well the thing Is Eddie versus is going
to give him a technological you, know head, start so
who knows what they'll do from.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
THERE i guess it's better than us funding. It if
he can build his, own then maybe sure funding. It
they are expensive and if you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Do we get a fee for the, licensing, right we
get a licensing. Fee.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
IMAGINE i think a lot of people don't. Know uh.
UH i can't eaven his name nowt, here it just.
Escapes Mu zelensky was helping us With, iron with drones
and stuff like, that showing us how to you do
certain things with, them or something that we Weren't we
weren't privy to because that wasn't on our. Focus we

(01:26:36):
weren't thinking, about you, know things like rollerd wolf are
using little toys to attack. People and, yeah so he.
Was he was aiding us With. IRON i, mean he
was getting paid to do, it but he was aiding.
Us so that kind of. Relationship Maybe trump is paying it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
BACK i don't, know, WELL i mean know the fact
that we need foreign powers to help us with our
drones is disturbing to. Me and nineteen eighty nine or
nineteen NINETY i was working on UAVs At Fort. Wachuka
how is it that we fell so far? Behind this
is a lack of vision by our. LEADERS i talked
about the utility of these and reconnaissance back, then and

(01:27:13):
that's how they eventually came into the widespread uses was
for reconnaissance and for.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
Spying but they'll also talk about the possibility of them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Being weapons carrying platform back in nineteen, Ninety how we
ever fell behind the. World the only country in the
world that was ahead of us in nineteen ninety Was
israel when it came to. Drones this IS i mean
an accepta and for, ME i always saw drones as
being much more than military.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
Use you can use.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Them for, lidar which we didn't know at the. Time
lighters coming along since. Then we can use them for.
Lightar we can use them for crop. Observation they can
use them for, dusting we can use them to deliver.
Things these are all things THAT i thought about thirty
five years, AGO i mean thirty six years. Ago how
in the world did The United states military fall so
far behind the way after a lie On ukraine to

(01:27:56):
give us tips on how to use these.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Things it's embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
Absolutely we were great with with advanced technologies and drones for,
spine but they were using smaller drones for armaments and.
Stuff you, know they can fly under the. Radar and,
YEAH i think right that one pilot was saying he
saw a drone, swarm so how they were using the
drones some of the. Technologies so they're using drones, NOW i, think,

(01:28:20):
yeah we fell behind on that, though, Right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
But it's not it's not just. Armaments you can use
them like you're still my drone.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Swarms you can use them to interfere with aircraft trying
to take off of aircraft, carriers or aircraft trying to
land aircraft, carriers or aircraft trying to take off in civil.
Airfields now there are, countermeasures but you can you can
also do counter. Countermeasures but the point is that is
that it's embarrassing that we fell.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Behind this is. Ridiculous you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Know it's also embarrassing that we don't have more munitions
on him because we gave them all To ukraine and
we find ourselves defenses some. RESPECTS i have to wonder
if this is so called pause didn't have a lot
do with ree stocking.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Armaments you have to think it probably, did probably. Did
and if that is the, case it was a wise.

Speaker 5 (01:29:02):
Pause and of course the whole memorytum of understanding which
we Knew iran was gonna blow through. Anyway so we
talked about it a couple of weeks ago about how
the language of it, was you, know not not beneficial
to THE. Us but maybe that was a purpose behind,
it maybe a caret and. Sticks see what they're going
to do if they blow that off with, shoot we
can just blow the heck out of them at this,
point you, know because they're not going to be come

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to the table for hundreds of billions of.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Dollars they're not gonna come to the table for.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
ANYTHING i agree with the hundred percent, there you, know
changing the top just a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
HERE i have to. Wonder In, japan.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Buildings are built to withstand. Earthquakes most of the, buildings
most modern buildings are earthquake, proof as if there's such a,
thing but earthquake resistance probably the.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
Term but this best Of.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Venezuela the amount of rubble that you, know thousands of
tens of thousand people still, missing bodies being recovered every.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Day it's.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Horrific whether any building codes whatsoever did the everything. CONSIST i,
mean these weren't exactly me get a. Earthquakes these are
seven point two and seven point, four which is. Strong
but it's The nines that really are. Shocking japan it's
eight and nine on The richter scale, frequently and they,
survive their buildings don't. Crumble it looks like everything collapsed In.
Venezuela you have to wonder if there's any building codes.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
Whatsoever, Todd, NO i don't know what they have In
central And South, america you, know in some of those,
places And i've been down there a couple of times
over the, years and some of the Places i've seen
them like how is that even?

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
Standing you, know it makes no.

Speaker 5 (01:30:28):
Sense and of course you go to The Middle east
and the no codes over, there for, Sure But Central South,
america even even In, mexico just across the border From
San diego right, THERE i, mean just a stark difference
in the architecture and the way things are, built for.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Sure well it's the same here with The United. STATES i,
mean how they would build buildings In la compared to
how they build buildings in Say. Omaha, yeah it might
be different in their codes because you may not have
to have.

Speaker 5 (01:30:53):
Her but we're talking about things that just doesn't look
like they should be, standing you, know things that are
just doesn't look like they should be.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
Upright, yeah, yeah, YEAH i got your. Point you, know
all these countries are you, know economic and stuff they
tend to you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Know venezuela had plenty of. Money they had, trillions you,
know from.

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
Oil once they, did, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
Once they, did that's, right once they. Did.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
Yeah, no it was All. Pilford but uh and wasted
country has laid to. Waste but, no it's really. SAD i,
mean you, know at LAST i saw there were sixty
eight thousand people missing and over three thy two hundred
bodies have been. Found this is this is a horrific.
SITUATION i really, LOOK i don't care For, venezuela but
from a human, STANDPOINT i feel really badly for the
people Of. Venezuela this IS i don't know how you

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were cover three, thousand seven hundred confirmed. Dead, okay it's
five five hundred more than the last.

Speaker 4 (01:31:42):
Time is gonna keep in countries Like turkey, too haven't
we Were they've had earthquakes and it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:47):
Was, yeah it was same situation in buildings over. There of,
course their buildings In turkey are hundreds of years, old
older Than venezuela for.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Sure, YEAH i think some of those buildings as old
As Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
Biden you, know you, KNOW i don't Think Venezuela venezuela
prone to, earthquakes you, KNOW i, mean, like it doesn't
commonly happen In new Hamp we've had a, few but
it doesn't commonly happen In New. Hampshire and when they
when it does, happen it's it's not Like, la you,
Know it's not like some places in the, world Like.
Japan but right on fall rumble.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Though so have either of you ever lived through an? Earthquake?

Speaker 4 (01:32:22):
YEAH i.

Speaker 5 (01:32:22):
Have, yeah not a massive, earthquake, sorry mostly just like
rumbles and. Stuff, yeah, sorry nothing like Like venezuela Or.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
La nothing like that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:32):
Happened, yeah right here In, Nashville New. Hampshire one came.
Through it came out of main up. Thing but, yeah
when it, happened there was a slight shudder and you
heard some cracking and. Popping AND i looked to the, wife,
GO i think that was an, earthquake And i'd never
experienced one up until, then like, that And i've been
times over the, road you, know Near, washington D. C
there was one AND i was over there where you
Lift chris when it when it, HAPPENED i didn't even know.
HAPPENED i was driving down the. Road they, said you

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felt it all the way up In. Pennsylvania i'm, like,
Really i'm over here By, York. Pennsylvania it didn't feel a.
Thing BUT i was up WHEN i was.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
On the Big island Of.

Speaker 5 (01:33:01):
Hawaii you, know obviously there's earthquakes there because you have seismic, volcano, yeah.
Volcano AND i was, sitting you, know outside of my
my little cabin there and just have a. Cigar and
the next thing AND i see the birds and hear
the birds fly off of the the.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Wires i'm, like, oh there's about to be a.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
Shake and all of a, sudden everything starts shaking and
dust fell off of the building and everything settled.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Down some people came, out was, like what was.

Speaker 5 (01:33:23):
THAT i, Thought, OH i think they had a little
eruption over. Here it was a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
More. Uh it was kind of, cool.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
THOUGH i think we've had mildthquakes for what you AND i,
experienced all these these major quakes that brought The Deballo
bridge down In San francisco and things like that were
they were enormous. Earthquakes they were big.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Ones well like the North ridge that was a big one.
Too So I've i've actually been in in a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
Of earthquakes THAT i.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Recall one was in a couple of minor ones in THE,
us but the major ones In Los angeles WHEN i
was a. Kid there's a big earthquake out, there AND
i remember everything shaky and. Rattling and then ironically In,
botswana which doesn't really it's not on a fault, line
we had a five point FOUR i think on A
richter scale or something that was less than, that and
it Affected botswana and the northwestern part Of South, africa

(01:34:07):
which is.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
FASCINATING i actually remember that. One, now that's. That what about.
Hurricanes HAVE i ever been caught up a?

Speaker 5 (01:34:13):
HURRICANE i, Have, yeah hurricanes and typhoons for. Sure, yeah
but never never like In florida for Hurricane hawaii for the.
Typhoons but those are pretty quick because the islands are so,
small they just go right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
Over, So, john what about.

Speaker 4 (01:34:29):
YOU i was taking a phone, call So i'm kind
of a little.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Lost have You have you ever been in a hurricane
or typhoon?

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
HURRICANES i can't say As i've ever actually been in
a hurricane gone by BECAUSE i grew up In florida
and we've had them go. THROUGH i was up here
When charlie went Through florida WHERE i. Live so, NO
i can't Say i've ever been in, one But i've
been in the vicinity of. Them served a lot of
hurricane storms off the coast Of New Smyrna, Beach, Florida daytona,
area a lot of, fun all.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Right, Well Hurricane, Yes Hurricane agnes in nineteen seventy two
as a. Kid and then ALSO i was in The
caribbean on a cruise ship and approaching the port Of
miami WHERE i could see the harbor lights when the
harbormaster closed the port because of the. Hurricane And i've
spent six days sailing back and forth To, Florida, keys

(01:35:23):
getting less and less food on the cruise ship as they.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
Ran out of.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Things so, yeah we were in that storm on a cruise.
Ship so that's two. Hurricanes AND i have been in
the Typhoon Typhoon hagabus WHEN i was In japan for
The Rugby World cup in twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Nineteen so there was one That, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:35:39):
Tornadoes have either of you ever been within eyesight of a.
Tornado i've seen him off in the distance In. Texas
never never had to run for shelter in hide.

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
Away i've seen him so far.

Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
Out and Also i've seen the formings of, clouds And
i've gotten out of the area whenever one. Hit But
i've never never had to die for, cover if you,
will never had to go into a. Basement, now uh.

Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
HUH i narrowly missed one somewhere near for In Fort, Smith,
arkansas many many years. AGO i hit just AFTER i passed.
Through i've caught the hail from, it AND i WENT
i something the rest area AFTER i crossed the state,
line and WHEN i come, out everything was pitch. Black i'm, like, oh,
uh SO i nearly missed that. One but the one
that got me Was, oklahoma going Towards, tulsa Not, Tulsa Oklahoma,

(01:36:25):
city AND i was at an east and the rain
was getting pretty vertical, there and uh or horizontal rather horizontal.
Problematic i'm Seeing i'm seeing cows run the opposite direction
they were running. West Is i'm Going. East i'm, THINKING i,
mean we really got me about it. WAS i can
hardly see anything from. Me, Man i'm driving down the.
INTERSTATE i can't see anything from, me BUT i. Hear i'm,

(01:36:50):
like that is over my. HEAD i know that is
over my. HEAD i am not feeling good about this right.
Now i'm still. Here so everything turned out?

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
Okay, Well, JOHN i think the thing is that is
all as the cows are running and not flying past.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
You you're, okay, yeah. Okay so so we've done, Earthquakes
we've done, typhoons and and and, tornadoes hurricanes and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
Tornadoes have either of you ever been struck by lightning.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
Up from the lightning capital of the. World, NO i have.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Not after that last, TIME i can't. Recall, okay so
Far i've checked every. Block this is ONE i can't. Check,
Thankfully i've never been struck by, lightning so that's good. News.

Speaker 4 (01:37:26):
Now i've seen it come dowfully, close THOUGH i watched
it go down a tree and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Struck but same Here i've been buildings were struck with
them and grounded have been.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
Bad what about what about a house?

Speaker 5 (01:37:37):
Fire, no never a house fire outside of a grease
fire just on the.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
Stove No john house fire very.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
CLOSE i had an electrical shortage that was bounty to a,
fire but the fire department got there in time before
it turned into a full blown house, fire grease. Fire
i've had a house that was set on, fire BUT
i wasn't in.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
It so, well we had a house, fire wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
It but came back to it as it burnt to
the ground coming back From maryland nineteen seventy.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
Nine so done the house fire, Too, yeah yeah it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
IS i lost my stamp. COLLECTION i had in pretty
credible stamp collection as a. Kid so, anyway but, yeah
so that's not a natural. Disaster that was, arson If
i'm not. Mistaken but all the rest are natural. Disasters
and it looks, like you, know some people might say
they might want to get around me BECAUSE i seem
to be near all these natural. Disasters but here's the,
Thing i'm still here, right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
So OBVIOUSLY i must have a clover or four leaf
clover in my pocket or something like. That but the
tornado is the.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
WORST i was In ohio and we were living in
a trailer and we moved one week. Later the trailer
were living there with three. Trailers some farmer put on
the edge of his. Cornfield he cut a little section,
out was making money for, rent MOVED outi the all
three of them were. Empty tornado came through a Fairfold,
County ohio the week after we moved out of, there
only a couple miles.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
Away all three of those.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
Trailers were picked up and dropped like a mile and
a half, Away and we were living the other week.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
Prior if the storm had, heard if it come a week.
Sooner and then in nineteen eighty, NINE i avoided a big.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
One on my way back into The, ARMY i traveled
across the, country went ACROSS i ninety hit everything you, Know,
chicago you, know the Bad lands And yellowstone And Grand Tee,
tons all that, Stuff Mount rushmore and The Devil's. Tower
and When seattle came down The west coast and was
In San. Francisco if my course date had been one

(01:39:22):
month later the next, course when it started the day
that The San francisco earthquake took place in nineteen eighty,
NINE i would have been In San. Francisco so knock on,
WOOD i was there exactly a one month prior to the,
earthquake And San francisco was beautiful the month prior to the.
Earthquake but when that bridge, Collapsed what a horrible situation
for those.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
People, yeah you.

Speaker 5 (01:39:40):
Say you were going for language that we were going out.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
There, No, no that was going To officer basic.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
Course, yeah SO i. Was i'd graduated. College it was
nineteen eighty, nine and that Was OCTOBER i think is.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
Their Late september whatever the date. Was it Was october
when that earthquake, occurred BUT i was on my way out.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
There it was Either August. SEPTEMBER i think it Was
september WHEN i was In San. Francisco that is, wow one.
Month the next class began one month later to that
because they slipped one last class in before the end
of the fiscal year and normally the classes are for
for wait a, seconds, yeah, yeah, yeah that Was, yeah
so we got the class and, yeah SO i was
one month away from, uh you, know it's pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
Crazy never forget.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
That wait a, wait that wasn't it was In september
and it runs together done it after a.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
While, no it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
Wasn't it wasn't it was it was it was earlier
than or was It? September, YEAH i mean it was, Anyway,
yeah it Was september BECAUSE i was in college.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
Until until, then that's, right and at the.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Summertime but, yeah, anyway the point is that that's WHEN i,
missed And i'm GLAD i missed.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
THAT i would not want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
In San francisco for that earthquake that was pretty frightening
for the people involved and led to a significant loss of.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
Life that in The northridge, earthquake just something.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
BAD i, Mean california a lovely, place but, uh it's
got a lot of, problems.

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
Man, absolutely, yeah for, sure a lot of beautiful, area you,
know of, course you, know having The North american plate
in The pacific plate bunchetting up against each, other that
that's a big. Problem but they're politics is even worse
than the than the big one that's, ensuing. RIGHT i
think the politics will destroy the state before the big
one comes.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
Along, well, yeah the politics have destroyed the. State AND
i guess we'll wait and see who the governor is
going to. Be but be, nice if it's not the
seraf it's actually that'd be. GREAT i, mean why. Not
we've already had a strange accent in the governor's mansion
And Arnold, schwarzenegger so why not get another that's.

Speaker 4 (01:41:22):
True probably A, republican didn't we well.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
You got you got well we Got. Republicans, yeah so
that was a that was a.

Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
Recall that was a Right.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
Davis that's.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Right Great davis was recalled and he came in. Office
but he became governor and he was. There and now
this this is a regular, one but this. Weird you,
know you, know top two finishers regardless of the party.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Thing so it's.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
Unfortunate there was a breaking story out Of maryland that
happened while we're on the. AIR a bus has caused
an x twenty eight people are, injured multiple, vehicles seven
vehicles involved in. This it was In, pikesville which is
the northwest corner Of, baltimore just about an hour and
forty minutes from. Here i'm seeing photographs of.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
It it's.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
HORRIFIC i see a van it's just, crushed and two
or three of the. CARS i don't even see where
the bus, is but the bus ran into a. Building,
ultimately one vehicle's flipped. OVER i don't know if the
bus driver had a heart attack or he was driving,
recklessly BUT i mean it looks like a war zone.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
HERE i mean parts of cars all over the. Place
THANKFULLY i don't see parts of.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
Bodies but The Maryland Transit administration said the bus collided
with a. Building according To Baltimore Fire, department seven other vehicles,
involved including one THAT i mentioned that rolled. Over twenty
eight people, injured including one who's Critically two people were temporarily.
TRAPPED i guess to use the jaws of life in
the bus and one in another. Vehicle Maryland Governor Wes
moore said he's monitoring in. Situation we're deeply grateful to

(01:42:40):
our first responders who act with speed and skill to
ensure the safety of our. Neighbors we've been in close
coordination with local officials to provide any support needed on the.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
Ground that's pretty. SCARY i mean a city street and
a little twell like The pikesville and that's. Shocking, yeah
very sad for. Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
Yeah, Meanwhile Carmelo anthony's defense team wants a new.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
Tyle for the guy who murdered the.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Kid and, YEAH i got six six hundred thousand dollars
in a Go fundme, account but they take go fund
accounts For christian and conservative groups off of Go.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
Fundy what a froze on the.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
Platform but they let this this murder have six hundred
thousand dollars that were raised for his, defense, right.

Speaker 4 (01:43:16):
They were the ones that take it away from the
convoy out.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
There and, yeah, yeah The, Canadians, yeah they just they
took all their, Money they stole their.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
Money they didn't even give it back to the. People
Don't they're just.

Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
SCUMBAGS i won't even give to a GoFundMe after that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
One that's exactly Where i've been at ever since. Then
NOW i don't trust them for even a micro. Second they're, nasty,
nasty nasty. People but we're running up on the end
of the show, tonight, Folks, john anything you want to
add before we wrap.

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
Up we just got just a few moments, HERE i think.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
You, know we got like a minute eighteen or something like. That,
well let's, See september is getting, close, right so you,
know get figure out who your candidates are and who
you're voting, for and WHICH i do have to. DO
i have an idea what's going. ON i need to
do a little bit more research though on get a
little more bit worn, out you, know broad and broad
in a little, bit AND i suggest others do the

(01:44:03):
same because you, know voting is, important especially this time.
Around Ironically New hampshire here there's more Registered republicans there Are.
Democrats but the problem is we have forty percent of
us are just about forty percent or. Independence so, yeah,
no we need to get some more conservatives in office
and get this country back on. Track whether we're talking

(01:44:24):
about state level or federal, level it's very. Important SO
i hope people are taking into careful consideration to get
out there and vote this time around and make sure
we keep our.

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
Conservatives you Said, september did you Mean?

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
November, no we we have a primary In. September, oh
you have your.

Speaker 3 (01:44:40):
Primary we had ours.

Speaker 4 (01:44:41):
Already it's, yeah a lot of, people a lot of
people have already had their. PRIMARIES i probably should have said.

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
That, okay that's you tell, me all, Right, todd anything
to wrap us up. Tonight what do you?

Speaker 5 (01:44:49):
Got, no basically that you, know research your, candidates a
registered to, vote get out there and vote for crying
out loud and make a good.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
Decision all right To Central, command Launch earth and launch,
frequently steal on target.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
Boys boo boo. Boop that's. Right let's get in there
and take them out and that's gonna do it for this. Week.
Folks well at you're right here next.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
Week on the, comments sar to service For todd And,
john Miss chris Saying God Bless.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
America