July 7, 2023 • 34 mins
Wes and Bill review the Wagner Group Coup, and the Ocean Gate Titan tragedy. The news media has really done all they can to make both stories last as long as possible.
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is ken spear effect. We'll doit live. Fuck it, We're gonna
do it live. But do itlive. Oh yeah, to send us
off? What the hell does thateven mean? I don't even know what
that even means. I don't evenknow exactly Bill, Bill O'Reilly? That
was one of my favorite That wasone of my favorite lines from like the
early two thousands. Yeah, andyou actually saw him melt down for a
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second. Yep, I think Katywas to send this off or something like
that, and he's like, whatdoes that even mean? We'll do it
live, fuck it. It's like, damn, dude, he really took
this personally, Yeah he did.Son of a bitch must pay? Well,
yeah, I think it. Sonof a bitches must pay. How
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about that little Russian thing that justhappened. Yeah, that was some interesting
shit that was going down, anda lot of speculation on who caused it
too started it, And yeah,I guess we can have a little bit
of an open for him and talkabout the Russian coup. Well you know,
okay, here's here's the thing,all right, Wagner Group. Okay,
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okay, we need to have aconsensus here. Is it that Wagner
or is it what was the otherone thing? Yeah? Wagner. Yeah,
so I knew I was right.So luckily for me, I've started
this this episode off already kicking offat one hundred percent success. So Wagner
Group, because I was getting askedlike by people who didn't know who they
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were, like they were just likenew on the block. I'm like,
so they're like the Russian bad guys, you're like, you know, like
when you watch any of the moviesand there's a PMC that comes in that
you know that kills the village fullof Africans so they can take the oil
them. That's that's literally that company. And they're like, no shit,
I'm like, yeah, no ship, that's that's really what they do.
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And they are led by a dudethat's majorly making money and he is for
all intensive purposes, like what wouldyou call it, like an operational KGB
kind of sort of like the militaryish, you know, kind of like
they wipe your ass off if theyif you know, for the person who
paid the most. They're like theRussian military equivalent of the suicide squad.
Oh yeah, you know what,that's right, that's really that's poignant.
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That's that's very accurate. And beingthe fact they've been fucking round are you
created against you Western weapons? Ithas been a suicide squad, hasn't it.
They literally recruit people out of presidentand tell them you'll get amnesty if
you come and fight on the frontlines and do the really dangerous shit.
They'll most likely get you killed,but um, and they're like, uh,
let's let's go fight well, okay, so let's let's talk about the
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background of this before we get intothe actual story. Because there was the
information about Wagner Group that was theywere responsible for killing a bunch of Chinese
like engineers and shit at that onemine in Africa what here, what like
three or four months ago something likethat. Yeah, So it's not like
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they're just doing the thing in Ukraine. They're all over the world. They're
doing stuff, and the leader guydoes not like the United States, right,
and so this is where we seethis divergence in terms of what the
explanations were and then how people wereexcited about this attempted so called coup.
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And you said that there was asignificant question of whether or not it was
a false flag. Will you fillme in on that. Yeah, I
talked about on ground zero this week. So if you kind of look at
the way that the media laid thingsout, you kind of you can't help
but wonder if maybe CIA operatives mighthave been involved, because they like to
start shit like that all the time. They love to start kupatas. That's
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that's like their bread and butter.So Wagner Group is operating, they get
attacked allegedly by Russians. They attackback, they start moving and they say,
we want we want these top Russianofficials from the military and the government
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to step down. Otherwise we're goingto march on Moscow and we're gonna cause
some shit. They get super close. I think it was like two hunters
or something like that. They getthey get within a very decent range,
and then suddenly they stop and go, oh, no, we're done enough
Russian Blusban's shed, We're you know, just kidding. Basically, they gave
the military equivalent of like a collegegirl saying just kidding, right, So
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kind of it kind of makes youspeculate. Now, the United States government,
Joe Biden and other officials, Ithink even the Pentagon spokesperson even,
they all came out and said,the United States has nothing to do with
this. We did nothing. Butit's kind of a technicality because the CIA
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really isn't government. They're they're acivilian corporation or they're civilian companies, so
they and metal and it's not technicallythe United States directly getting involved. It's
a United States citizen in the UnitedStates company, but it's not really the
United States government. So it's possiblethat they went they created a false flag
attack. So all they have todo is get Russian gear, dress up
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attack, make it look like theRussians did it. That pisses off Wagner
Group. They go after Russia andit could be amazing at Intel eventually that
oh yeah, this was this wasan attempt a coup start up by CIA
operatives. And that's why you wouldstop and go, oh, we're good,
We're good. That to me isthe best because otherwise it doesn't really
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make a whole lot of sense.Why would Russia attack the group less?
They were just inept and they hadsome some very very horrible aim and it
was a friendly fire incident where theydidn't mean to do it, and well,
yeah, I mean to to.Okay, let's spontificate on the let's
say whether or not it was afalse flag. There's one problem. The
problem that I see is is thatthe hand is sort of tipped right.
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And what I'm saying is is thatif you were let's say you're Vladimir Putin,
where you got on a plane,you got the funk out of there
because you didn't know what was goingon, right, The Wagner Group like
turning and blasting a bunch of Russiansand knocking down six Russian helicopters. That
happened, right, So, nowyou know this dude is willing to go
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to work on your ass, andyou know that Russians aren't going to let
that shit go. You know,Putin's like, we aren't gonna be friends
anymore. Bro, that's over.That's not going to be a thing anymore.
So how do you manage that goingforward? Because that friendship, that
partnership is definitely damaged. How doyou I mean what I'm saying, like,
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I think someone's got to go.I truly believe that. I think
it's like, yep, you know, I'd like you to live and stuff,
but you're not going to be allowedto live. It's not gonna it's
not gonna work out. So Ithink that the guy who's running the running
that shop, the whatever his nameis, Igor, whatever his name is,
the guy that owns Wagner Group,something tells me someone's getting zipped soon.
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Yeah. I don't think that they'regonna let this one go to Vladdy.
I don't think Laddie's gonna let thisshit go. Vladimir's he's been in
the he's been in the you know, government killing game for a long time,
and you know rolland you know,being a an internal threat to the
sovereignty of his control, not thesoveremigtine of of Russia, but his control,
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his absolute you know, you know, point and click control. I
don't think they're gonna let that go. I just think the dude's gonna have
to go. Now, this couldturn out to be and I guess under
those conditions, the way you're saying, like a false flag was done,
false flag is going to work becausewell, let's be honest, you already
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bit the whole. I mean,the mission was complete because you got the
other team to hate each other orto cause distrust, and that's all you
could be asking for. Yeah,So I mean, I mean that's what
I mean, That's what I think. Now, did they go to Belarus
though, Yeah, they we're donehere, We're gonna go over to Belarus.
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So that possibly could have been theoutcome that they were looking for.
The CIA, right, they wantto do an operation. They're like,
well, if he goes forward withit and attacks Moscow, great, If
he doesn't, still great, becausewe got a large part of the Russian
attack force in Ukraine out of Ukraine, and that's going to leave the Russian
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operatives they're still there vulnerable because they'renot gonna have that support from Wagner Group.
So oh, okay, that makessense, because yeah, I didn't
get to see all that information I'vebecause I was out of town this weekend.
I didn't. I was kind oflike displaced. So this is interesting
because I was I was wondering howmuch that affected the Russian troop movements.
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From what I heard, it's abig blow. They lost a big chunk
of the men that they had therethat we're fighting Ukrainians. So that could
have been part of the proxy warbecause we're technically we're in a proxy war
with Russia right now. By byfunding Ukraine and sitting weapons and all these
other things over there to help themwith their fight, we are indirectly,
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you know, we're kind of fightingvicariously through Ukrainians. So it would make
sense that they would want to doanything they could to cause in fighting within
the Russian forces. It's bad enoughthat you already get these reports that those
Russian soldiers they are landing with babyguns and rusted old aks that have been
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around since the sixties and just youknow stuff that's just not good equipment.
It's bad enough that you're hearing reportsthat um SO soldiers are being put in
ill prepared and then on top ofthat you have them fighting within the ranks.
Yeah, that's that's gonna all thestorm around and increase chances of a
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Ukrainian victory. Listener west igor Kowski, Um, I'm gonna give you this
red rider bb gun. I wantyou to do your best. Do it
for mother Rusher. Imagine that.Yeah, it was like a single shot
too. Wasn't like the fun oneswhere like you pump it and you can
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get another round in there. Itwas the one where like gift like pull
the pump back, put the bbin, and then put the pump back
for It's like they found some guyswith like some jang ass shit. Like
dude, he's like, hey,look we're shooting mini balls. I can
get like if I'm a good infantryman, I can get like four rounds
off a minute, two revolver shitbecause I have one. I was I
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have a CEO two revolver point oneseven seven b begins. It's only be
begun I have otherwise it's it's allairsoft and I was messing with it.
It's technically a pellet gun. Youput the pellets in there. It's with
it last summer, at the firsttime in like fifteen years or something like
that. I thought, I couldn'timagine going to war with this, Like,
I mean, what are you talkingabout. You cause a nasty infection
on somebody. There'd be some squirrelsthat wouldn't be very happy. But I
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mean, basically, yeah, youjust think I'm gonna put lead in your
face and just your face. I'mjust gonna stick you with this little pellet
and you're gonna be like, I'mgonna kill you for that. You're gonna
go tell mom. I know,I know we're desensitizing this this situation,
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but um, I did notice thatthere was a big public outcry of people
going yay, there's this mercenary grouptrying to move on Moscow, And I
thought, do you realize that thisdude actually was successful. We probably would
have a nuclear exchange if you haveit worse than that whole Titanic sub thing.
Oh yeah, we need to talkabout that too. Who the fuck
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builds a sub out of carbon fiber? What are you thinking? We're gonna
talk about last week, but youended up being at a place where you
couldn't get internet service and so wecouldn't record the episode. But do you
have any idea how many rounds Ishot though? I mean, how many
actual rounds were fired from my firearmslast weekend? It was ridiculous. I'm
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sorry, man, I was farthough. I was out in Montana where
it was free. You wouldn't believehow how nice Montana is. It looks
like a Disney show as far asthe trees. There's no underbrush where we
were at super Pretty and um,I don't know, I thought I sent
you the picture. It was awall of Ammo that was self service and
it was all this stuff like everythingthere was you could you could fire any
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bullet ever, they had them alland it was like, I mean,
it was a whole like wall ofAmmo. Insane. Yeah, pick out
what you want, pick it offthe wall, and walk up pay for
it. You know, I'm surprised. I say, go ahead, just
you know, refrain from loading here. Just just go ahead and buy it
and head on out. And theyhad bulk and everything. So it was
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incredible. So that is that doesremind me that the that the United States
does have still have a lot oftrue believers, at least closer to the
West coast. But now it wasit was fascinating the amount of the amount
of normalcy that I saw there.It was pleasant. Only saw two people
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of blue hair and everybody's looking atthem. Funny. I'm just saying,
and I'm not talking about people thathave blue hair that are old as shit.
I'm talking about people that have koolAid problem that really liked that blue
raspberry. Look, I'm just saying, so, yeah, it was.
I mean, and I know that'sthat's insensitive and this and absumptive, so
I apologize, but they do lookas though they might not have voted for
the same people. Potentially I mightbe wrong, hey, but oh yeah,
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no, there are millions of Americansthat struggle with a kool Aid infection.
That's true, exactly. It's like, man, you know, like
you know that the kool Aid peoplewere like you realize you can dye your
hair with the ship and you know, the guy at the front of the
tables like, oh yeah, becausehe knew that, you know, thirty
seven cent packet of kol Aid wasgonna not have sugar in it was gonna
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go in some chick's hair or somedude's hair. Again. You know,
the kool aid Man, the koolaid Man, the kool aid Man,
oh man, he's the best entryguy of all time. That dude open
doors, I mean in walls.But um with that and that preaching clear
exactly what are you doing, dude, do not open the kool aid oh
shit and coming no I uh Mythought was is that you know, because
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I did going back to the tothe sub thing when you found out,
Like the US Navy was like,yeah, we heard that ship, you
know, but they're not going totalk about it because how sensitive our systems
are. That's kind of a hell, you know what I mean, Like
they're not going to really get intothe nuts and bolts of like how exactly
they knew, exactly where they wereat and exactly when it happened, you
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know what I mean, Because itwas like, yeah, we knew,
but what are you gonna say?And then we were having a pretty spirited
discussion. I said, they havea recovery vehicle that has a tether,
and the news is like, youcannot have tethers on these vehicles. I'm
like you motherfucker's are wrong. Andthen it comes out on the news right
before they go and get it,like, yeah, the Navy has this
recovery vehicle that has this big tetheron it so they don't lose it and
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has sixty thousand pounds you know,lift capability. And I'm like, well,
they're gonna go find this broken pieceof you know, you know,
carbon fiber that I don't know.And and it wasn't it like their first
like was it like it's like essentiallyit's maiden voyage. Did I know you
guys probably didn't follow up on that. No, it had been out for
a while. Um, it wasgoing, it had done some dives,
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like there was a NBC reporter thathad written in it last year went down
to the Titanic can So yeah,so they weren't even told that like the
dome window that they have on thefront of the nose was not capable of
those depths and they needed something thicker. And he said, Noah, it's
fine, it's fine. We gotWell he found out about Faitho. He
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found out. Well. The otherportion of that is is that you know,
I mean, call me crazy,right, but I recall scoring quite
well. On the ASVAB and thenthe Navy being really interested in me sitting
on the bottom of the ocean monitoringa nuclear reactor, and I said,
man, that's not for me.I don't want to sit on the bottom
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of the ocean monitoring a nucle reactor, considering the fact that A that's claustrophobic
essentially, and B you know,if they fuck up, you don't there's
no fix in that. There's noone to come help you. That's it.
That's worse than going to space.Yeah, I mean, you know.
I mean it's like, so Inoticed that there is the number of
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the teams that are out for thatincident is still populating at a very high
rate. I'm sure. I mean, if I were logitic, I think
i'd file a lawsuit. Yeah.I liked his logic for that. They
had an interview with um, theCEO of the company, and he was
like, yeah, man, thecontrollers are meant to be thrown on by
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a sixteen year old, say,won't break, And we got a couple
of them on board just in case. And there's only one button in the
entire sub, but I guess it'sthe on button you turned on that the
sub is supposed to be automated foreverything, and then you just you move
your thumbsticks around and you move thesub around. It was so simple.
I like the simplicity of it.But then they had a lot of a
lot of safety problems, like there'sno seats in the sub. You're kind
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of just sitting across. It makesto people. Yeah there was a toilet
in one section in the back,a bucket, yeah yeah, yeah.
You just go and there's like alittle bucket the floor and you just kind
of squat over it and just takea ship and they have a curtain and
they play music that you can't hear. People take a shit, and it's
just you know, you know,I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say
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this. I was sketched out onthe submarine ride at Disneyland because I was
like, man, this doesn't seemjust you know, you know what I
mean, because that kind of lookedthe same, the same kind of shit.
It's like, hey, look thisCaptain Nemo. Shit, No,
this is not good. This isgonna go bad. I mean. But
I had a discussion about this asit did as it was taking place,
and I said, you know,it's interesting this motherfucker has this grand plan
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and nobody does this, Like,nobody does submersibles like this unless you're like
very well funded, and it's notsome like cutting edge stuff. It's like,
check this out. This thing willnot crunch, you know what I'm
saying. It's not going to collapseon itself. And he's out here like,
yeah, let's do it. Butyou go to like SpaceX and you
see all this shit that's gone wrong, Like you know, they're like,
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man, we've been testing, andyou know, hey, this thing exploded.
But it was a good test becauseyou know, we're just testing and
there's billions of dollars that have goneinto it. This guy likes it.
Hey man, we're gonna do is. We're gonna do this at a carbon
fiber. No one's done this shitbefore, and everybody said it's a stupid
idea, but let's go with it. We're gonna go deep as shit.
I mean you can see it.I mean, who jumps on that vessel?
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I'm just saying, who does that? People who like to think of
themselves as explorers and the explorer,right baby Jones locker, because that's the
whole Even I kind of wonder Ithought you know, there's footage of the
Titanic. Do you really have togo down fifteen thousand feet or whatever it
is to see ridiculously? Like,yeah, it's cool, but in time,
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it's like, there's plenty of footageof it, and it's not very
impressive footage, So I understand whatthey need to go see it for real.
And they kind of talked about it, and some people are saying,
well, it's something that less thantwo hundred and fifty people have done,
going going down that low and andseeing the Titanic, and it's just it's
becoming a part of an elite club. And I thought, yeah, that's
cool. But you know when yougo and you pay some shy easter who
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has a very very dangerous submersible thathe puts together, and it fucking implodes.
Zero faith, Broa, That's whatI'm saying. The royal villain this
last week has been the media,right, So with the Russian story,
they really made that sound out asif, as you know, they were
gonna march onto Moscow, walk intothe Kremlin, grab you know, Putin
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by the collar, drag him outin the street and shoot him. That
they really made us sounding It waslike the end of Putin, like he
was gonna be overthrown. And withthe submersible thing. Man, they were
making such a big deal about howmuch air those people had left on the
sub. Definitely, they've got thetime, They've got time. And then
Wednesday night they come out and theygo, oh, or it was Thursday
afternoon. Yeah, it was soWednesday night was when they ran out of
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air. And then on Thursday they'resaying, well and then they could maybe
be okay, and then they comeout with the news report they say they
found wreckage. Yes, done,they found into Briefield, they're track confirmed
it was it, and then theyfinally confirmed an afternoon and they're fucking dead.
Even James Cameron came out and saidthe meaning it was fucked up for
doing what they did. Well,they're trying to give a false hope because
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I'm like, okay, I usedto say it. So when they said
hey they lost because it was overthe news, like oh shit, they
lost communications with sub okay, andthey're like, well and they can't find
it. It's gone. I'm like, well it collapsed. Yeah, because
I waited to do my research onit and I looked into it and the
more I looked to knit, themore realized. So you lost communication with
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them, like an hour and thirtyminutes in and they say it takes about
an hour and forty five minutes hourand three ticket to the depth right to
go down that low and then ittakes a few minutes to find it,
and then it's a couple of hoursto come back up. I thought they're
dead. They exploded at the bottomwhere they imploded at the bottom of the
ocean. They got down and thensure enough they got down low enough they
imploded sixteen hundred feet away from thebow of the tide headache. Well,
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you know it's really interesting is dependingon exactly how far they drifted, they
might have noticed that big fucking airbubble that probably came up to the surface.
You know, depending on the seasthat deep water would would just are
You wouldn't see much. It wouldn'tbe that much of a reaction. You
were talking about um A, Imean, so it would be like a
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balloon the size of a vane.So by by comparison, that would be
like, I mean, that's likehaving a um balloon the size of a
tic tac popping at the bottom ofa thirty foot deep. Um, a
pool, right, you would notnotice it? Yeah? Okay, well
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fair enough. Well the the itwas. It was a nice thought though.
I thought that the the now didwas the Logitech controller? Was that?
Was that photoshop or was that realat the bottom of the ocean.
That's photoshop. I was gonna say, dude, that they did that.
I was like, how how?Because I saw it. I was like,
you know, I'm gonna ask you, since you you you are the
master of photoshop and audio, Iwas gonna I mean, I'm sure there's
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pieces of plastic of it somewhere ifthey look for it. But the problem
is when when things like that implode, like so much gets crushed that it's
probably you wouldn't find it all together. Um yeah, someone photoshopped that end.
Yeah, I would have figured itwould exploded to you know, the
this this your volume of of Um. Yeah. They pressured the tail cone,
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so I guess that's that was thestrong part, was that cone,
and that flew away, and Iguess the tube just kind of like crushed
like a big soda can and thatthen instantly killed everyone because but you got
millions of pounds of pressure up ontop. Oh, yeah, you're done.
Yeah, so they'll die instillient.They didn't. They didn't feel any
pain, so I hope that weknow what. Here's the thing. If
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they started having issues like popping andcracking and they couldn't pop ballast, so
that's what they also said. Ifthey lost electrical power, then they couldn't
release ballast, so it wouldn't goback up. That was all based on
the controller. I'm like, whywouldn't you have a manual? Really is
on that ship? I'm just sayingI think that was the That was the
speculation the media made was that theythink that the controller was the failed point.
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I think what happened was they gotdown to the depth they started and
went forward, and that that windowthat was not supposed to be at that
low. I mean exactly. Youknow we do with like high pressure air
tanks, right, you know,like you know that there's a there's a
big difference between like one hundred psiand like nine hundred psi, right,
three thousands? Yeah, really threethousand psi and like like yeah four thousand,
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five hundred right, So and that'sone of things I was looking acause
I was buying a regulator and Iwas. I was having a hard time
finding a regulator for a tank thatwould that would handle the high pressure coming
out of a high pressure tank,because a lot of them needed to have
a super low pressure tank. UM. So eventually I found one that that's
actually looks like a really good regulator. So I have that common to me,
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so I can I can UM nowcrank down the air pressure. But
yeah, so you look at thatwith the same thing with UM with depth
right when it comes into UM soit can dive. I think it was.
They kept going back and forth betweenfeet and meters, so I think
it was four thousand meters is thedepth of the Titanic, and I think
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they were only rated for like fifteenhundred meters or something like that. Yeah,
it was a lot lower. Theysaid that the whole should start failing
at like six or eight thousand feet. It was. It wasn't like it
was not even it was like halfaway. The fact that they were able
to do multiple successful dives was ascleI am shocked it didn't implode the first
time they took it down, becauseall logic would say that it should have.
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So I think it was just yearsor years. I think it's only
been like two years, right,but they've done a few dozen dives,
so multiple times of it being compressedbeyond what it's supposed to be able to
handle, and then decompressed back andforth, back and forth. That creates
small fractures in glass. And soof course it popped. Of course it
collapsed. Doesn't it make you sadin a way? You look at me
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like really, you guys, reallyyou engineered it, and you guys did
this, Like who drafted this shit? And I mean you know what I
mean? Like and who thought itwas safe. Look, it's one thing
to take it down and like youknow Gilligan's lagoon, you know, go
Lucas of crabs and shit or whateverand do that. But to go down
and like get after it and tryto go into the big deep bad call.
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Well that's the thing is that everyoneon the sub was told that it
was unsafe. They said there's ahigh probability that you will die. And
of course the billionaire's like, ohwell, I gamble for a living.
I'm perfectly fine, Oh uncle forit. The one person didn't want to
go was the billionaire from Saudi Arabia. I believe it was. The sun
said that he did not want togo. He was terrified of going,
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and his dad made him go.He was sixteen year old kid and he's
dead because dad wanted to take youknow, his air down to the bottom
of the ocean with him and andman him up a bit. Um.
I don't blame him, I Iit's funny. I still haven't watched I've
had it in my possession for years. Someone gave me a DVD of Um
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James Cameron's Deep Sea Challenge when hewent down to the Challenger Deep and if
I remember quickly seeing that the stuffon that sub that he built, it
was like built for one person,and it was extremely thick, and it
was very, very risky for himto do it, but he put a
lot of engineering in to to getjust that one craft to fit one person
to go down to I think Ithink he got down to like the Mary
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Honest Trench or something like that.He got he got really low, Yeah,
he got he got low, lowlow. It was which made the
movie The Man all the funnier becausethey have these crafts readily available. They
could go that deep and have noproblem. It's like no, yeah,
and so um with UM with thislittle pod they make. I mean it's
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by comparison. Uh, it's it'sjust it's a miracle that it was able
to do what it did as manytimes it didn't so well. I mean,
look, I'll give them the engineeringfeat that they pulled that off,
but let's be honest. They shouldn'thave ever even got close to that.
Shouldn't it shouldn't even got close tothat that I mean, And there's no
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oversight, right, you would thinkthat there was some I mean okay,
objectively, you would think that somebodywas like, uh, yeah, you
can't. You don't do that,you know, you know that's what happened.
Like, hey, wes, um, that's a really cool like,
uh milk carton boat you made,but don't take it out in the ocean.
(29:36):
Dude. You're you're gonna you're gonnadrown. You're like, no,
man, it's gonna fuck it work, bro, Like, man, it's
probably not a good idea. Yougotta do what you gotta do. And
then you and then you go outand you drown with a bunch of other
people. And there's no liability atall to this company because you know,
they've had some iron tight just insanelyironclad. Um. Yeah, uh you
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know uh waiver. Yeah. Iremember being a kid trying to build a
raft out of some logs that wehad, and we were trying to like
figure out how to like tie ittogether. To a friend and she came
out and she looked at it.She goes, that's gonna freaking sink.
So you guys are gonna kill yourselves. And because we could really figure out
how to really tie it together andkeep it keep the logs from shifting and
(30:18):
making it so we could get itout to the water, we never really
we never really finished it. Yeah. I remember trying to build that,
and it's just it's like that whenyou don't know what you don't know you
and you think that you can doit because you see it in the TV.
You see movies all the time wherethere's like someone that has a bunch
of logs that are all tied togetherinto a raft and you think I can
make that. Um. So it'skind of what happened with this. I
think Stockton Rush was the guy's name, or right, yeah, it was
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Stockton m Yeah. He's like,I got billions of dollars and I want
to go see the Titanic I'll makesomething that you can gets down there,
and I'll charge two hundred and fiftythousand dollars per person and it'll be profitable.
Elon MutS is flying ship in space. I'm gonna go to the bottom
of the oceans. Like he's putup multiple crafts that have nobody on it.
Yeah he's tested it, Yeah thoroughly. There's this dude like he found
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his company in the like five yearsago and immediately starts setting people down when
ah, it's stupid. Yeah,yeah, it's funny. I mean,
well, you know this week,well, I mean and um, didn't
they say, okay, so thisis another this is a conspiracy theory.
(31:25):
So uh, the you know,the you know, the ss Minnow story
that dominated the media circus, wasn'tthere supposed to be like another hearing about
like the Hunter Biden Biden stuff thatwent on. That was because they were
saying, well, they're like coveringall that up, they're not really talking
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about it. Well we did.You wouldn't expect him to talk about it.
It's the wrong dude, you knowwhat I mean, Like, why
would they why would they talk aboutthe dude that's you know, they're not
gonna talk down on the dude thatthey actually like they're gonna talk dude,
you know, and which blows meaway. We I mean, I still
haven't quite understood why the media,like, I mean, if they're i
mean only one, if you're ifyou're only on it's it's become so partisan.
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Why shouldn't it We shouldn't be partisanat all. It should be just
tell on everybody, so then you'llhave some credibility. And it just it's
like no one's covering. They justwanted to cover what's got the most blood
fucking soaked onto it, so theychose the boat story and they you know,
splashed it so they you know,they didn't have anything new on that
could have been you know a littlemore condemning or cast out. So yeah,
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me. I patient with us aswe kind of delayed this episode a week
just because you know, logistics sysdidn't work out. Um, yeah,
sorry about that, guys. That'son me. It worked out for the
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in common, which was the mediareally milk them for what they were worth.
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is so focused on as there weredistractions from the fact that Hunter Biden is
actually in the process of being privento be a complete criminal. Even this
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do it live. But do itlive. Oh yeah, to send us
off? What the hell does thateven mean? I don't even know what
that even means. I don't evenknow exactly Bill, Bill O'Reilly? That
was one of my favorite That wasone of my favorite lines from like the
early two thousands. Yeah, andyou actually saw him melt down for a
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second. Yep, I think Katywas to send this off or something like
that, and he's like, whatdoes that even mean? We'll do it
live, fuck it. It's like, damn, dude, he really took
this personally, Yeah he did.Son of a bitch must pay? Well,
yeah, I think it. Sonof a bitches must pay. How
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about that little Russian thing that justhappened. Yeah, that was some interesting
shit that was going down, anda lot of speculation on who caused it
too started it, And yeah,I guess we can have a little bit
of an open for him and talkabout the Russian coup. Well you know,
okay, here's here's the thing,all right, Wagner Group. Okay,
(02:08):
okay, we need to have aconsensus here. Is it that Wagner
or is it what was the otherone thing? Yeah? Wagner. Yeah,
so I knew I was right.So luckily for me, I've started
this this episode off already kicking offat one hundred percent success. So Wagner
Group, because I was getting askedlike by people who didn't know who they
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were, like they were just likenew on the block. I'm like,
so they're like the Russian bad guys, you're like, you know, like
when you watch any of the moviesand there's a PMC that comes in that
you know that kills the village fullof Africans so they can take the oil
them. That's that's literally that company. And they're like, no shit,
I'm like, yeah, no ship, that's that's really what they do.
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And they are led by a dudethat's majorly making money and he is for
all intensive purposes, like what wouldyou call it, like an operational KGB
kind of sort of like the militaryish, you know, kind of like
they wipe your ass off if theyif you know, for the person who
paid the most. They're like theRussian military equivalent of the suicide squad.
Oh yeah, you know what,that's right, that's really that's poignant.
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That's that's very accurate. And beingthe fact they've been fucking round are you
created against you Western weapons? Ithas been a suicide squad, hasn't it.
They literally recruit people out of presidentand tell them you'll get amnesty if
you come and fight on the frontlines and do the really dangerous shit.
They'll most likely get you killed,but um, and they're like, uh,
let's let's go fight well, okay, so let's let's talk about the
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background of this before we get intothe actual story. Because there was the
information about Wagner Group that was theywere responsible for killing a bunch of Chinese
like engineers and shit at that onemine in Africa what here, what like
three or four months ago something likethat. Yeah, So it's not like
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they're just doing the thing in Ukraine. They're all over the world. They're
doing stuff, and the leader guydoes not like the United States, right,
and so this is where we seethis divergence in terms of what the
explanations were and then how people wereexcited about this attempted so called coup.
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And you said that there was asignificant question of whether or not it was
a false flag. Will you fillme in on that. Yeah, I
talked about on ground zero this week. So if you kind of look at
the way that the media laid thingsout, you kind of you can't help
but wonder if maybe CIA operatives mighthave been involved, because they like to
start shit like that all the time. They love to start kupatas. That's
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that's like their bread and butter.So Wagner Group is operating, they get
attacked allegedly by Russians. They attackback, they start moving and they say,
we want we want these top Russianofficials from the military and the government
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to step down. Otherwise we're goingto march on Moscow and we're gonna cause
some shit. They get super close. I think it was like two hunters
or something like that. They getthey get within a very decent range,
and then suddenly they stop and go, oh, no, we're done enough
Russian Blusban's shed, We're you know, just kidding. Basically, they gave
the military equivalent of like a collegegirl saying just kidding, right, So
(05:32):
kind of it kind of makes youspeculate. Now, the United States government,
Joe Biden and other officials, Ithink even the Pentagon spokesperson even,
they all came out and said,the United States has nothing to do with
this. We did nothing. Butit's kind of a technicality because the CIA
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really isn't government. They're they're acivilian corporation or they're civilian companies, so
they and metal and it's not technicallythe United States directly getting involved. It's
a United States citizen in the UnitedStates company, but it's not really the
United States government. So it's possiblethat they went they created a false flag
attack. So all they have todo is get Russian gear, dress up
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attack, make it look like theRussians did it. That pisses off Wagner
Group. They go after Russia andit could be amazing at Intel eventually that
oh yeah, this was this wasan attempt a coup start up by CIA
operatives. And that's why you wouldstop and go, oh, we're good,
We're good. That to me isthe best because otherwise it doesn't really
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make a whole lot of sense.Why would Russia attack the group less?
They were just inept and they hadsome some very very horrible aim and it
was a friendly fire incident where theydidn't mean to do it, and well,
yeah, I mean to to.Okay, let's spontificate on the let's
say whether or not it was afalse flag. There's one problem. The
problem that I see is is thatthe hand is sort of tipped right.
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And what I'm saying is is thatif you were let's say you're Vladimir Putin,
where you got on a plane,you got the funk out of there
because you didn't know what was goingon, right, The Wagner Group like
turning and blasting a bunch of Russiansand knocking down six Russian helicopters. That
happened, right, So, nowyou know this dude is willing to go
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to work on your ass, andyou know that Russians aren't going to let
that shit go. You know,Putin's like, we aren't gonna be friends
anymore. Bro, that's over.That's not going to be a thing anymore.
So how do you manage that goingforward? Because that friendship, that
partnership is definitely damaged. How doyou I mean what I'm saying, like,
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I think someone's got to go.I truly believe that. I think
it's like, yep, you know, I'd like you to live and stuff,
but you're not going to be allowedto live. It's not gonna it's
not gonna work out. So Ithink that the guy who's running the running
that shop, the whatever his nameis, Igor, whatever his name is,
the guy that owns Wagner Group,something tells me someone's getting zipped soon.
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Yeah. I don't think that they'regonna let this one go to Vladdy.
I don't think Laddie's gonna let thisshit go. Vladimir's he's been in
the he's been in the you know, government killing game for a long time,
and you know rolland you know,being a an internal threat to the
sovereignty of his control, not thesoveremigtine of of Russia, but his control,
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his absolute you know, you know, point and click control. I
don't think they're gonna let that go. I just think the dude's gonna have
to go. Now, this couldturn out to be and I guess under
those conditions, the way you're saying, like a false flag was done,
false flag is going to work becausewell, let's be honest, you already
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bit the whole. I mean,the mission was complete because you got the
other team to hate each other orto cause distrust, and that's all you
could be asking for. Yeah,So I mean, I mean that's what
I mean, That's what I think. Now, did they go to Belarus
though, Yeah, they we're donehere, We're gonna go over to Belarus.
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So that possibly could have been theoutcome that they were looking for.
The CIA, right, they wantto do an operation. They're like,
well, if he goes forward withit and attacks Moscow, great, If
he doesn't, still great, becausewe got a large part of the Russian
attack force in Ukraine out of Ukraine, and that's going to leave the Russian
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operatives they're still there vulnerable because they'renot gonna have that support from Wagner Group.
So oh, okay, that makessense, because yeah, I didn't
get to see all that information I'vebecause I was out of town this weekend.
I didn't. I was kind oflike displaced. So this is interesting
because I was I was wondering howmuch that affected the Russian troop movements.
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From what I heard, it's abig blow. They lost a big chunk
of the men that they had therethat we're fighting Ukrainians. So that could
have been part of the proxy warbecause we're technically we're in a proxy war
with Russia right now. By byfunding Ukraine and sitting weapons and all these
other things over there to help themwith their fight, we are indirectly,
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you know, we're kind of fightingvicariously through Ukrainians. So it would make
sense that they would want to doanything they could to cause in fighting within
the Russian forces. It's bad enoughthat you already get these reports that those
Russian soldiers they are landing with babyguns and rusted old aks that have been
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around since the sixties and just youknow stuff that's just not good equipment.
It's bad enough that you're hearing reportsthat um SO soldiers are being put in
ill prepared and then on top ofthat you have them fighting within the ranks.
Yeah, that's that's gonna all thestorm around and increase chances of a
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Ukrainian victory. Listener west igor Kowski, Um, I'm gonna give you this
red rider bb gun. I wantyou to do your best. Do it
for mother Rusher. Imagine that.Yeah, it was like a single shot
too. Wasn't like the fun oneswhere like you pump it and you can
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get another round in there. Itwas the one where like gift like pull
the pump back, put the bbin, and then put the pump back
for It's like they found some guyswith like some jang ass shit. Like
dude, he's like, hey,look we're shooting mini balls. I can
get like if I'm a good infantryman, I can get like four rounds
off a minute, two revolver shitbecause I have one. I was I
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have a CEO two revolver point oneseven seven b begins. It's only be
begun I have otherwise it's it's allairsoft and I was messing with it.
It's technically a pellet gun. Youput the pellets in there. It's with
it last summer, at the firsttime in like fifteen years or something like
that. I thought, I couldn'timagine going to war with this, Like,
I mean, what are you talkingabout. You cause a nasty infection
on somebody. There'd be some squirrelsthat wouldn't be very happy. But I
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mean, basically, yeah, youjust think I'm gonna put lead in your
face and just your face. I'mjust gonna stick you with this little pellet
and you're gonna be like, I'mgonna kill you for that. You're gonna
go tell mom. I know,I know we're desensitizing this this situation,
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but um, I did notice thatthere was a big public outcry of people
going yay, there's this mercenary grouptrying to move on Moscow, And I
thought, do you realize that thisdude actually was successful. We probably would
have a nuclear exchange if you haveit worse than that whole Titanic sub thing.
Oh yeah, we need to talkabout that too. Who the fuck
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builds a sub out of carbon fiber? What are you thinking? We're gonna
talk about last week, but youended up being at a place where you
couldn't get internet service and so wecouldn't record the episode. But do you
have any idea how many rounds Ishot though? I mean, how many
actual rounds were fired from my firearmslast weekend? It was ridiculous. I'm
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sorry, man, I was farthough. I was out in Montana where
it was free. You wouldn't believehow how nice Montana is. It looks
like a Disney show as far asthe trees. There's no underbrush where we
were at super Pretty and um,I don't know, I thought I sent
you the picture. It was awall of Ammo that was self service and
it was all this stuff like everythingthere was you could you could fire any
(13:48):
bullet ever, they had them alland it was like, I mean,
it was a whole like wall ofAmmo. Insane. Yeah, pick out
what you want, pick it offthe wall, and walk up pay for
it. You know, I'm surprised. I say, go ahead, just
you know, refrain from loading here. Just just go ahead and buy it
and head on out. And theyhad bulk and everything. So it was
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incredible. So that is that doesremind me that the that the United States
does have still have a lot oftrue believers, at least closer to the
West coast. But now it wasit was fascinating the amount of the amount
of normalcy that I saw there.It was pleasant. Only saw two people
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of blue hair and everybody's looking atthem. Funny. I'm just saying,
and I'm not talking about people thathave blue hair that are old as shit.
I'm talking about people that have koolAid problem that really liked that blue
raspberry. Look, I'm just saying, so, yeah, it was.
I mean, and I know that'sthat's insensitive and this and absumptive, so
I apologize, but they do lookas though they might not have voted for
the same people. Potentially I mightbe wrong, hey, but oh yeah,
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no, there are millions of Americansthat struggle with a kool Aid infection.
That's true, exactly. It's like, man, you know, like
you know that the kool Aid peoplewere like you realize you can dye your
hair with the ship and you know, the guy at the front of the
tables like, oh yeah, becausehe knew that, you know, thirty
seven cent packet of kol Aid wasgonna not have sugar in it was gonna
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go in some chick's hair or somedude's hair. Again. You know,
the kool aid Man, the koolaid Man, the kool aid Man,
oh man, he's the best entryguy of all time. That dude open
doors, I mean in walls.But um with that and that preaching clear
exactly what are you doing, dude, do not open the kool aid oh
shit and coming no I uh Mythought was is that you know, because
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I did going back to the tothe sub thing when you found out,
Like the US Navy was like,yeah, we heard that ship, you
know, but they're not going totalk about it because how sensitive our systems
are. That's kind of a hell, you know what I mean, Like
they're not going to really get intothe nuts and bolts of like how exactly
they knew, exactly where they wereat and exactly when it happened, you
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know what I mean, Because itwas like, yeah, we knew,
but what are you gonna say?And then we were having a pretty spirited
discussion. I said, they havea recovery vehicle that has a tether,
and the news is like, youcannot have tethers on these vehicles. I'm
like you motherfucker's are wrong. Andthen it comes out on the news right
before they go and get it,like, yeah, the Navy has this
recovery vehicle that has this big tetheron it so they don't lose it and
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has sixty thousand pounds you know,lift capability. And I'm like, well,
they're gonna go find this broken pieceof you know, you know,
carbon fiber that I don't know.And and it wasn't it like their first
like was it like it's like essentiallyit's maiden voyage. Did I know you
guys probably didn't follow up on that. No, it had been out for
a while. Um, it wasgoing, it had done some dives,
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like there was a NBC reporter thathad written in it last year went down
to the Titanic can So yeah,so they weren't even told that like the
dome window that they have on thefront of the nose was not capable of
those depths and they needed something thicker. And he said, Noah, it's
fine, it's fine. We gotWell he found out about Faitho. He
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found out. Well. The otherportion of that is is that you know,
I mean, call me crazy,right, but I recall scoring quite
well. On the ASVAB and thenthe Navy being really interested in me sitting
on the bottom of the ocean monitoringa nuclear reactor, and I said,
man, that's not for me.I don't want to sit on the bottom
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of the ocean monitoring a nucle reactor, considering the fact that A that's claustrophobic
essentially, and B you know,if they fuck up, you don't there's
no fix in that. There's noone to come help you. That's it.
That's worse than going to space.Yeah, I mean, you know.
I mean it's like, so Inoticed that there is the number of
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the teams that are out for thatincident is still populating at a very high
rate. I'm sure. I mean, if I were logitic, I think
i'd file a lawsuit. Yeah.I liked his logic for that. They
had an interview with um, theCEO of the company, and he was
like, yeah, man, thecontrollers are meant to be thrown on by
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a sixteen year old, say,won't break, And we got a couple
of them on board just in case. And there's only one button in the
entire sub, but I guess it'sthe on button you turned on that the
sub is supposed to be automated foreverything, and then you just you move
your thumbsticks around and you move thesub around. It was so simple.
I like the simplicity of it.But then they had a lot of a
lot of safety problems, like there'sno seats in the sub. You're kind
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of just sitting across. It makesto people. Yeah there was a toilet
in one section in the back,a bucket, yeah yeah, yeah.
You just go and there's like alittle bucket the floor and you just kind
of squat over it and just takea ship and they have a curtain and
they play music that you can't hear. People take a shit, and it's
just you know, you know,I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say
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this. I was sketched out onthe submarine ride at Disneyland because I was
like, man, this doesn't seemjust you know, you know what I
mean, because that kind of lookedthe same, the same kind of shit.
It's like, hey, look thisCaptain Nemo. Shit, No,
this is not good. This isgonna go bad. I mean. But
I had a discussion about this asit did as it was taking place,
and I said, you know,it's interesting this motherfucker has this grand plan
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and nobody does this, Like,nobody does submersibles like this unless you're like
very well funded, and it's notsome like cutting edge stuff. It's like,
check this out. This thing willnot crunch, you know what I'm
saying. It's not going to collapseon itself. And he's out here like,
yeah, let's do it. Butyou go to like SpaceX and you
see all this shit that's gone wrong, Like you know, they're like,
(19:53):
man, we've been testing, andyou know, hey, this thing exploded.
But it was a good test becauseyou know, we're just testing and
there's billions of dollars that have goneinto it. This guy likes it.
Hey man, we're gonna do is. We're gonna do this at a carbon
fiber. No one's done this shitbefore, and everybody said it's a stupid
idea, but let's go with it. We're gonna go deep as shit.
I mean you can see it.I mean, who jumps on that vessel?
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I'm just saying, who does that? People who like to think of
themselves as explorers and the explorer,right baby Jones locker, because that's the
whole Even I kind of wonder Ithought you know, there's footage of the
Titanic. Do you really have togo down fifteen thousand feet or whatever it
is to see ridiculously? Like,yeah, it's cool, but in time,
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it's like, there's plenty of footageof it, and it's not very
impressive footage, So I understand whatthey need to go see it for real.
And they kind of talked about it, and some people are saying,
well, it's something that less thantwo hundred and fifty people have done,
going going down that low and andseeing the Titanic, and it's just it's
becoming a part of an elite club. And I thought, yeah, that's
cool. But you know when yougo and you pay some shy easter who
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has a very very dangerous submersible thathe puts together, and it fucking implodes.
Zero faith, Broa, That's whatI'm saying. The royal villain this
last week has been the media,right, So with the Russian story,
they really made that sound out asif, as you know, they were
gonna march onto Moscow, walk intothe Kremlin, grab you know, Putin
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by the collar, drag him outin the street and shoot him. That
they really made us sounding It waslike the end of Putin, like he
was gonna be overthrown. And withthe submersible thing. Man, they were
making such a big deal about howmuch air those people had left on the
sub. Definitely, they've got thetime, They've got time. And then
Wednesday night they come out and theygo, oh, or it was Thursday
afternoon. Yeah, it was soWednesday night was when they ran out of
(21:47):
air. And then on Thursday they'resaying, well and then they could maybe
be okay, and then they comeout with the news report they say they
found wreckage. Yes, done,they found into Briefield, they're track confirmed
it was it, and then theyfinally confirmed an afternoon and they're fucking dead.
Even James Cameron came out and saidthe meaning it was fucked up for
doing what they did. Well,they're trying to give a false hope because
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I'm like, okay, I usedto say it. So when they said
hey they lost because it was overthe news, like oh shit, they
lost communications with sub okay, andthey're like, well and they can't find
it. It's gone. I'm like, well it collapsed. Yeah, because
I waited to do my research onit and I looked into it and the
more I looked to knit, themore realized. So you lost communication with
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them, like an hour and thirtyminutes in and they say it takes about
an hour and forty five minutes hourand three ticket to the depth right to
go down that low and then ittakes a few minutes to find it,
and then it's a couple of hoursto come back up. I thought they're
dead. They exploded at the bottomwhere they imploded at the bottom of the
ocean. They got down and thensure enough they got down low enough they
imploded sixteen hundred feet away from thebow of the tide headache. Well,
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you know it's really interesting is dependingon exactly how far they drifted, they
might have noticed that big fucking airbubble that probably came up to the surface.
You know, depending on the seasthat deep water would would just are
You wouldn't see much. It wouldn'tbe that much of a reaction. You
were talking about um A, Imean, so it would be like a
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balloon the size of a vane.So by by comparison, that would be
like, I mean, that's likehaving a um balloon the size of a
tic tac popping at the bottom ofa thirty foot deep. Um, a
pool, right, you would notnotice it? Yeah? Okay, well
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fair enough. Well the the itwas. It was a nice thought though.
I thought that the the now didwas the Logitech controller? Was that?
Was that photoshop or was that realat the bottom of the ocean.
That's photoshop. I was gonna say, dude, that they did that.
I was like, how how?Because I saw it. I was like,
you know, I'm gonna ask you, since you you you are the
master of photoshop and audio, Iwas gonna I mean, I'm sure there's
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pieces of plastic of it somewhere ifthey look for it. But the problem
is when when things like that implode, like so much gets crushed that it's
probably you wouldn't find it all together. Um yeah, someone photoshopped that end.
Yeah, I would have figured itwould exploded to you know, the
this this your volume of of Um. Yeah. They pressured the tail cone,
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so I guess that's that was thestrong part, was that cone,
and that flew away, and Iguess the tube just kind of like crushed
like a big soda can and thatthen instantly killed everyone because but you got
millions of pounds of pressure up ontop. Oh, yeah, you're done.
Yeah, so they'll die instillient.They didn't. They didn't feel any
pain, so I hope that weknow what. Here's the thing. If
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they started having issues like popping andcracking and they couldn't pop ballast, so
that's what they also said. Ifthey lost electrical power, then they couldn't
release ballast, so it wouldn't goback up. That was all based on
the controller. I'm like, whywouldn't you have a manual? Really is
on that ship? I'm just sayingI think that was the That was the
speculation the media made was that theythink that the controller was the failed point.
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I think what happened was they gotdown to the depth they started and
went forward, and that that windowthat was not supposed to be at that
low. I mean exactly. Youknow we do with like high pressure air
tanks, right, you know,like you know that there's a there's a
big difference between like one hundred psiand like nine hundred psi, right,
three thousands? Yeah, really threethousand psi and like like yeah four thousand,
(25:32):
five hundred right, So and that'sone of things I was looking acause
I was buying a regulator and Iwas. I was having a hard time
finding a regulator for a tank thatwould that would handle the high pressure coming
out of a high pressure tank,because a lot of them needed to have
a super low pressure tank. UM. So eventually I found one that that's
actually looks like a really good regulator. So I have that common to me,
(25:52):
so I can I can UM nowcrank down the air pressure. But
yeah, so you look at thatwith the same thing with UM with depth
right when it comes into UM soit can dive. I think it was.
They kept going back and forth betweenfeet and meters, so I think
it was four thousand meters is thedepth of the Titanic, and I think
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they were only rated for like fifteenhundred meters or something like that. Yeah,
it was a lot lower. Theysaid that the whole should start failing
at like six or eight thousand feet. It was. It wasn't like it
was not even it was like halfaway. The fact that they were able
to do multiple successful dives was ascleI am shocked it didn't implode the first
time they took it down, becauseall logic would say that it should have.
(26:37):
So I think it was just yearsor years. I think it's only
been like two years, right,but they've done a few dozen dives,
so multiple times of it being compressedbeyond what it's supposed to be able to
handle, and then decompressed back andforth, back and forth. That creates
small fractures in glass. And soof course it popped. Of course it
collapsed. Doesn't it make you sadin a way? You look at me
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like really, you guys, reallyyou engineered it, and you guys did
this, Like who drafted this shit? And I mean you know what I
mean? Like and who thought itwas safe. Look, it's one thing
to take it down and like youknow Gilligan's lagoon, you know, go
Lucas of crabs and shit or whateverand do that. But to go down
and like get after it and tryto go into the big deep bad call.
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Well that's the thing is that everyoneon the sub was told that it
was unsafe. They said there's ahigh probability that you will die. And
of course the billionaire's like, ohwell, I gamble for a living.
I'm perfectly fine, Oh uncle forit. The one person didn't want to
go was the billionaire from Saudi Arabia. I believe it was. The sun
said that he did not want togo. He was terrified of going,
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and his dad made him go.He was sixteen year old kid and he's
dead because dad wanted to take youknow, his air down to the bottom
of the ocean with him and andman him up a bit. Um.
I don't blame him, I Iit's funny. I still haven't watched I've
had it in my possession for years. Someone gave me a DVD of Um
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James Cameron's Deep Sea Challenge when hewent down to the Challenger Deep and if
I remember quickly seeing that the stuffon that sub that he built, it
was like built for one person,and it was extremely thick, and it
was very, very risky for himto do it, but he put a
lot of engineering in to to getjust that one craft to fit one person
to go down to I think Ithink he got down to like the Mary
(28:29):
Honest Trench or something like that.He got he got really low, Yeah,
he got he got low, lowlow. It was which made the
movie The Man all the funnier becausethey have these crafts readily available. They
could go that deep and have noproblem. It's like no, yeah,
and so um with UM with thislittle pod they make. I mean it's
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by comparison. Uh, it's it'sjust it's a miracle that it was able
to do what it did as manytimes it didn't so well. I mean,
look, I'll give them the engineeringfeat that they pulled that off,
but let's be honest. They shouldn'thave ever even got close to that.
Shouldn't it shouldn't even got close tothat that I mean, And there's no
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oversight, right, you would thinkthat there was some I mean okay,
objectively, you would think that somebodywas like, uh, yeah, you
can't. You don't do that,you know, you know that's what happened.
Like, hey, wes, um, that's a really cool like,
uh milk carton boat you made,but don't take it out in the ocean.
(29:36):
Dude. You're you're gonna you're gonnadrown. You're like, no,
man, it's gonna fuck it work, bro, Like, man, it's
probably not a good idea. Yougotta do what you gotta do. And
then you and then you go outand you drown with a bunch of other
people. And there's no liability atall to this company because you know,
they've had some iron tight just insanelyironclad. Um. Yeah, uh you
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know uh waiver. Yeah. Iremember being a kid trying to build a
raft out of some logs that wehad, and we were trying to like
figure out how to like tie ittogether. To a friend and she came
out and she looked at it.She goes, that's gonna freaking sink.
So you guys are gonna kill yourselves. And because we could really figure out
how to really tie it together andkeep it keep the logs from shifting and
(30:18):
making it so we could get itout to the water, we never really
we never really finished it. Yeah. I remember trying to build that,
and it's just it's like that whenyou don't know what you don't know you
and you think that you can doit because you see it in the TV.
You see movies all the time wherethere's like someone that has a bunch
of logs that are all tied togetherinto a raft and you think I can
make that. Um. So it'skind of what happened with this. I
think Stockton Rush was the guy's name, or right, yeah, it was
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Stockton m Yeah. He's like,I got billions of dollars and I want
to go see the Titanic I'll makesomething that you can gets down there,
and I'll charge two hundred and fiftythousand dollars per person and it'll be profitable.
Elon MutS is flying ship in space. I'm gonna go to the bottom
of the oceans. Like he's putup multiple crafts that have nobody on it.
Yeah he's tested it, Yeah thoroughly. There's this dude like he found
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his company in the like five yearsago and immediately starts setting people down when
ah, it's stupid. Yeah,yeah, it's funny. I mean,
well, you know this week,well, I mean and um, didn't
they say, okay, so thisis another this is a conspiracy theory.
(31:25):
So uh, the you know,the you know, the ss Minnow story
that dominated the media circus, wasn'tthere supposed to be like another hearing about
like the Hunter Biden Biden stuff thatwent on. That was because they were
saying, well, they're like coveringall that up, they're not really talking
(31:47):
about it. Well we did.You wouldn't expect him to talk about it.
It's the wrong dude, you knowwhat I mean, Like, why
would they why would they talk aboutthe dude that's you know, they're not
gonna talk down on the dude thatthey actually like they're gonna talk dude,
you know, and which blows meaway. We I mean, I still
haven't quite understood why the media,like, I mean, if they're i
mean only one, if you're ifyou're only on it's it's become so partisan.
(32:12):
Why shouldn't it We shouldn't be partisanat all. It should be just
tell on everybody, so then you'llhave some credibility. And it just it's
like no one's covering. They justwanted to cover what's got the most blood
fucking soaked onto it, so theychose the boat story and they you know,
splashed it so they you know,they didn't have anything new on that
could have been you know a littlemore condemning or cast out. So yeah,
(32:35):
stupid shit. Yeah, guys,Um, thank you so much for
me. I patient with us aswe kind of delayed this episode a week
just because you know, logistics sysdidn't work out. Um, yeah,
sorry about that, guys. That'son me. It worked out for the
best because we had two topics thatwe could mesh together that had one thing
in common, which was the mediareally milk them for what they were worth.
(32:57):
And I think they're really a story. It's a reason why that media
is so focused on as there weredistractions from the fact that Hunter Biden is
actually in the process of being privento be a complete criminal. Even this
was already knew that. But yeah, it's they're doing everything they can to
avoid talking about Hunter Biden right now. All right, guys, if you
want to be insulated along with otherpeople who like to think outside the box
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subscribing that does support the people thatsupport us. And if you want to
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