June 21, 2024 • 35 mins
Avery reviews what he eats while on a mission to avoid a severe calorie deficit.
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Hi, I am less and welcometo Unsuppressed. Back again with a new
topic for us. We're gonna throwabout some food, specifically emriase and I
set those up. Avery is goingto have a great lesson for us today
on that. Avery want to takeit away. Yeah, So, you
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know, a lot of people havedifferent types of concerns when it comes to
food and preparing food for the differentsituations that could happen in the future,
whether it's being stranded in your caror backpacking or any of the more advanced,
you know, situations that might popup. And so we're gonna talk
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a little bit about breaking into likedifferent categories of food so that you can
kind of figure out what your palatecan handle, because that's important as well
price range, things like that,and what purpose that food is going to
have when you're storing it. So, yeah, anyway, won't chime in
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any antidotes. Actually, I've gotone. Let's start with Let's start with
your car, because I think that'sone that everybody can easily put together.
In something that and you have todetermine long term sustatement, not long term
like it's just got to be ableto sit in the car a long time,
so how would you start there?So I usually go with a tiered
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system when it comes to like everydaystuff. So I have my backpack which
just has a few little snacks init. Usually those are things like arnola
bars, things that won't melt inthe heat, because you know, if
you do leave your car or yourbackpack in the car, then the heat
might affect the food that's packed.So those are small, little individual things,
and then I'll have something more advanced. A lot of people just grab
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a couple of maris and throw themin their vehicle, which that's really good
because MRI's are ready to meals,ready to eat, which means you just
open them up in a way yougo. You don't have to worry about
cooking them or heating or anything likethat. They usually become a little heating
element, which kind of makes thetaste a little bit better. But in
my opinion, I'm not a bigfan of those at all, and I
think i've I think I've gone aboutten years without ten or so years without
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eating an MR and I'm very proudof that. So I usually do things
from store bought, So that's aprofessional move. So anybody who's had an
MRI. I have eaten enough ofthem that I realized that that is only
for the last ditch effort. Thatis like it's powering through food. So
if you were going to evaluate beyondgranola bars, are you evaluating like self
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sustainment for like a twenty four toforty eight hour period plus are you building
that through in terms of I knowyou're not looking at macros because you're wanting
burst food, right, like highhigh coloric density of a small package.
Yeah. So I was just resettingfrom a trip, and so I was
just kind of like going through thestuff that I have the restocking. So
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I went to Walmart and bottom ofjust stuff and it's a lot of snacks.
I'm a big fan of snacks becausethose are things you can just grab
and throw in your pockets. They'regoing to be more carb based than protein
or fat based, although I findthat getting healthy fats when you're out,
when you're trying to do this typeof thing is really hard. You can
get carbs all day long, snacks, granola bars or chips or some weird
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you know, just whatever you wantto throw candies, hard candies, throw
in your pockets. Carbs for daysbut the challenge is usually when it comes
to healthy fats. If you're goingto be doing anything freeze dried, they
typically don't have fats in them.If you do canned and meats or something
like that, well then it's reallyheavy. So that's a challenge. Proteins
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for some reason, At least nowadayswith the big you know, health craze
that's been going on, you canfind proteins and everything. I mean,
there's freaking protein cookies. Now,there's protein chips, there's I mean we're
just talking about you know, oneor two different types of protein, but
I mean they are every fat.So you healthy fats are like slat.
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You have to find almost natural stuffand that's it's almost like you have to
pull off the land in order todo it. So typically what I use
is I use coconut oil in alot of my stuff because generally speaking,
it's a solid. If it getswarm, it can turn into a liquid,
so you have to take that intoconsideration when you're packaging it. But
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generally speaking, it's a solid.It doesn't mean you have to cook.
More often than not, you'll haveto cook whatever it is you're eating with
that coconut oil. But that's solike I'll do my oatmeal. I'll do
oatmeal, protein powder, coconut oil, honey, and then dried fruits and
I'll throw all that in together andaway I go. So, so do
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you know what the the how muchper like tablespoon of cocaon oil? How
much natural fat it has in it? Then? Because that's supposed to carry
some so I never can that,I thought, Yeah, as it says,
and you can also bust the chicksass with it. Bam. I
mean it's also safe. It's it'sa fat. I know that. That's
a big one. Like for theKeto diet to get yourself into Keyts's as
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they say, take a little bitof Okay, I like one or two
tablespoons, no more than that.Do you have a go to the risk?
Oh? Go ahead? No oh. I was just going to ask,
is do you have a go toprotein bar or anything like that you're
using. I've been using a thingcalled pure protein that has it's like twenty
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two grams of protein, but ithas enough carbs to keep you rolling.
And I actually lift off of one. So like usually I eat that first,
and I take pre and I golift and I'm totally good to go.
It's like it's a good balance.I don't have a crash and uh,
I think that's the one my girlfriend'sbeen using too. Yeah, they're
cost effective and they taste like acandy bar, so you feel like you're
cheating. Works out really good.Yeah. So and they're like the peanut
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butter crunch one is actually really good, which is you know, no big
surprise because oh peanut butter, becausepeanut or has natural fat in it.
That's the one thing I was goingto ask you, how is that something
that you approach like if you're lookingat your bar basse having peanut butter and
stuff in it, because that wasimmediately what I was thinking about when we
started discussing the topic. Yeah,a lot of the stuff I have has
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peanut butter. I have these youcan on Amazon. You can buy these.
I think they're eight ounce bags withlittle twist tops to them, and
I'll fill those with peanut butter andthen you can just squeeze the bag out,
so it's kind of like a largetoothpaste bag. Dude, I was
giving to say, like NASA style. Yeah, and you're good to go.
They are they tough? Are theylike actually pretty they're Yeah, yeah,
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I've never had one puncture. It'sbasically the same material as like a
cat not countback, but it's platypus, but it's a hydration bladder. It's
the same material as that, andthe lids are pretty robust. I had
I did have a lid split onme for something else, and it was
a hygiene product because I use thesame style of bottles for hygiene products,
and I had the lid break onone of those because I tightened it and
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pop the top. Okay, Butanyways, so now if you were have
you ever prepped anything so some ofthe other go ahead, Oh, so
did you have your actually physically preppedlike stuff like the way people do protein
bars or something and actually make themor is it are using just all store
bought stuff easy source. I usestore box stuff because those will have the
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artificial preserves in it that I wantthem to have. So unless I'm going
on a trip that I know theextent of time, you can make biltong,
which is a fat and protein meatsource that's been mixed together. In
the old days, people would mixberries that were ripe at the time in
there with it, dry it outand then that's that was kind of like
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the natural protein or protein bar orhiking food back in the day, but
typically that's not done anymore. Peopledon't do that. People don't like the
idea of having, you know,chunks of fat and chunks of meat in
their backpack. That makes some concernedand right until the time they get hungry
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and need it. So as faras what you've done kind of the full
gambit, since you've gone from likehardcore trekking, like you know, going
around the bottom of a hood asfast as possible, civilian style all the
way to range your stuff as faras for a regular average person under a
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shit hits the fan stress condition.So you have seventy two hours where you're
gonna have to be well, you'regonna have to be up to source water.
But what would you have with youfor food or actual burst and like
being able to like I don't know, run security ops's that's at idea.
Yeah, that's a great, greatangle to put on it. So right
now what I'm doing on my personas I run three power bars, that's
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enough to get through the day.So that whether they're cliff bars or power
bars or some musclehead bar or somethinglike that, something that just has a
lot of calories and it really don'tcare what it tastes like or what it
is. You're just going to eatit while you're walking, probably, And
then in my assault pocket, I'llusually have a sandwich, Like if I
have the resources, I'll actually justmake a sandwich and have it in there.
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But if not, then it's usuallysomething like a meal that I've made.
So what that usually consists of issomething that's going to need to be
cooked. It's usually a chicken ortuna pack along with macaroni and cheese,
microwavable macaroni and cheese pack or microwaveablerice type stuff, and then you just
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mix all that together in your cup, cook it up, and it's ready
to go. So that's full spectrum. I was going to say that would
be a lot of that would beeverything. You have a pretty balanced meal.
So everybody discounts. I'm gonna saypeople sleep on sandwiches like for lifting,
and that is one of the mostbalanced things you can do. It's
one of the best things for yourbody because you're getting basically everything all at
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once. It's close to your macrosif you do it right. But I
was curious. Now for people whohave not enjoyed the deliciousness of a brown
bag meal ready to eat when westart talking about because those have fat entrained
to them, correct, they havetheir like plused up. Oh yeah,
it depends on the year. Becausethe history of the MRI, I swear
we've talked about this have we wantto talk was only I probably mentioned,
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but we didn't. We didn't getinto like back in the old days,
right after Vietnam, when the MRIwas being researched and the c ration was
being retired, the MRI used tocontain about three thousands of three four hundred
calories in it, so a fullday's worth of calories. What they learned
is that people well won, peopleweren't in war all the time, and
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people were eating these things in trainingenvironments and they were getting fat. So
they decided to pare down the amountof calories that were in them. That
afforded them was the opportunity to kindof get more tasty meals. Because back
in the old days, when Ifirst joined the military, we had these
dark brown bagged MRIs, which Ithink was probably the first colored bag that
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they used. And then they progressedthrough generations, but I think we're at
tan now, which is just kindof like the general bag that's been used
for probably ten or fifteen years.But the dark brown bags were an indicator
of some old MRIs and those mrswould have, like one was called the
five Fingers of Death, which wasI think it was four or five maybe
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hot dogs, but they were coveredin this gel latinous fat and it was
very, very disgusting. One ofmy yeah, one of my least favorite
was the beef stew, and thatliterally had chunks of fat in it,
and so that was how they gaveyou calories. But when they paired down
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the calories, that are for themthe opportunity to make tastier meals. So
you're talking about I think the flavor, Yeah, but it's a wrong flavor
because there's too much. I'll believeyou on the nastest of it. Those
are you were like to watch it, Steve nineteen nine. I think is
that the newest juice or is thatfrom that Spanish? Oh cool? Is
that Spain guy? Yeah, Spain, he'll go he'll buy rations and mrs
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from other countries go and do reviewson him. It's really cool. He's
gotten his hands on World War two. The oldest one he gat was an
old ration from pre World War One. I think it was like eighteen eighty.
Are you sure you'd really want toeat that? I mean he did
he ate it. It had rustmost of it that the thing was compromised.
Majority was rusted, but he likehe pulled off the outsides. He
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got this like chunk of like thisdried stew, and he rehydrated with water
and he took a bite it andhe goes, that's terrible, but hey,
true it was good one hundred andten years ago. It was just
disgusting, but it was also fascinatingto see, like the history of all
these food items that nobody remembers.Hey, did they teach you to eat
bugs and shit in Ranger School?Like anything that you can know? They
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offer you a chance in Ranger Schoolto eat a worm, but they didn't
force anybody to instruction as a redwigular I just said worm if you will.
This is This is the Spanish Mre. It's amazing, packed quite
nicely. Wow, what do wehave here? We have it's in Spanish,
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so con pasta. I'm that ischista. I'm assuming that's a sauce
or maybe it's chicken stew or something. Uh, caffeine, Vitamin C,
vitamin so you got drink a citrusflavored drink like emergency. Another one.
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Okay, that's two canteens. Youget these when you're another three canteens work.
Oh this is cool. Yeah,water purification to what's two of them?
That's smart. I think that's whatthey're when in doubt, plug it
up because the dysentery sucks. GoogleTranslate to read all the text. This
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is like, does it come withto Basco? No, that's only American
ship. This is this is creamareally dental Florada so toothpaste. Dude,
they're trying to take care of it. Brush your teeth. More Vitamin C.
Okay, apparently these people are worriedabout they're worried about having Yeah,
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what's that. This is disinfectant.Oh it's a voist tallette. Oh hand
sanitizer. Hands All right, nowwe're to well, hold on, we're
in a main deal. Paper standardis awesome. So here these are little
heating tabs, three of them.Is that? What that is? Is
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that? What that's well, it'susually hydro something or for the meal.
This is a hexelmethyl something that's instantfire. Yeah, don't worry. It
causes cancer. It causes cancer.Here is a bully on cube. Wow.
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And then here is a uh ohsardines. Oh you lost me at
sardines, dude. And this isprobably the main portion of the meal.
Here. I don't know what thatis corriso. Oh what is that?
Con Corrizo? Uh con Czo.Yeah yeah, your your your camera picks
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it up perfectly. Uh yeah.So now the question is is that next
week when you eat it live onthe air and you're like, this ship
is gross, that'll be one.Alicia's supposed to be doing it. This
is a breath mint. Alicia's supposedto We got three of these. We
bought one and and we didn't knowthis, but for doing the event,
they gave us, like as athanks a lot for coming out here and
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hosting the event, they gave usone each and so it was really cool
they put it in these Oh hereis still in here. This is the
company that was hosted us. Soyeah, so they gave us additional meals.
But and then inside here it's astove for the Oh wow, a
little bendi and that's cool and thenpaper. Okay, well that's now.
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Do they still okay, to yourknowledge, in the current generation of US
mrs, do they still come witha little Tabasco bottle? Some of them
switched over to packets. I sawpackets now inside of them there's I do
not see a bottle. And thatlittle bottle was so cool. And I
learned to hate Tabasco sauce because ofit, because I ate so much of
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it when I ate them. Thetimes I was eating, I was like,
oh God, because everything tastes likeDabasco. So it kind of ruined
the kind of ruined it for me. But I used to like Tabasco sauce,
used to. But I mean,if I was eating, like you
know, Ryan astros Ass, Ithrowed the Tabasco on it. Frank's red
hot kind of a guy I did. Here's the thing. They did,
pretty good job. They switched thingsup. They added different flavoring packs.
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So yeah, obviously have your saltand pepper, but then they have this,
uh what's that pack? Uh patsor something just like a like a
non salt flavoring thing. Oh wow, okay, so like like PAM or
something. I don't know, justa generic flavor packet like a seasoning salt
or a seasoning packet that just madeit not taste like shit. Yeah.
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I remember in Aerosoft getting introduced tothem. When I first started going to
the big events around two thousand andseven, I was like, this is
kind of cool. You're eating militaryfood. I was like, it's not
the best food, but some ofthe meals were kind of good. And
there was around two thousand and eightimmersion. I was working at a gun
shop and we had some EMRI's comein and the boss was like, well,
now we don't have to go outto get lunch anymore. Some maris
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like cool, and I opened upone of them. I can't remember what
was the main was, but Iremember getting into the the dessert and it
was a bag of Eminem's and Iremember the uh, the promotional uh packaging
on that bag of Eminem's from whenI was in middle school, and I
like, wait a second, Iremember this packaging around two thousand and three.
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This is two thousand and eight.I'm meeting a five year old bag
of M and MST. What amI doing with my life? And I
mean, you're shooting babies at eachother eating that shit, that's what you're
doing. That's what I like inthe middle of an office, you know,
in a gun store or something.Guns Like, what am I doing
with my life? It was oneof those moments experience. Yeah, I
mean, we're not playing airsoft.It's fun to be part of the experience,
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to have an emry and like that. It's terrible food, but you
know, it's what the military guyseat, so you're kind of like a
whole lot of the I would liketo point out there are certain things in
certain MRS, like the skittles thatwould have been highly coveted. From what
I can tell, you do somehigh trade shit with that. I could
see that being a high trade item. I mean, am I wrong?
Well? These were m and ms. They were definitely old. I remember
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opening up a knee and going like, yeah, this is not that's okay.
They melt your mouth, not inyour hands exactly. Some items where
we're like, no, this isactually pretty good. But then there's some
items this is not anything like whatit's supposed to resemble. I would like
to point out during one of thetraining iterations that we were allowed to be
involved with your company, right,so I hate succotash, like the vegetable
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medley known as suck atash. Likeit's a corn, peas and carrots all
at the same time. Do notlike those three flavors working together, right.
We trained all day working with soldiersdoing the thing in the mountatown.
In the evening, they made ameal and they brought out all the cooking
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stuff and they had a hot meal. That shit was fucking delicious. And
what I want to point out isthis is the point the things that you
find less flavorful and less wonderful whenyou're all full fed and everything's good to
go, versus when you're hungry andyour body's saying I need this thing and
that thing and the other thing.Two totally different flavor packets kick off.
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There's a reason why, like likecountries like North Korea, they teach people
to eat bugs and shit, andall of a sudden they're like, yeah,
man, I'm having this delicious likeroach stew and they're like good with
it. Where we'd be like,oh, hell no, but they're like,
man, you know need you know, vitamins you're getting out of roach
stew. And that's like that's whatI'm saying. It's like if you what
you're what your palette says. Whenyou are in civilian life and everything is
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what you want it to be,and there's a big competition on flavor versus
what necessity provides. All of asudden, that necessity like, man,
that tastes fine. Your body's like, you know what, block out all
the bad here, I'm this soaktad, give me another scoop. That's
delicious. So I mean, that'swhy I think. I've had MR's the
same memory to MRI twice, andyou know, it didn't change the flavor.
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I've had it where it tastes like, oh my fucking god, how
am I eating this? And othertime I was like, man, it's
pretty good shit. So I mean, I mean, we've all been there.
I'm sure. I don't know ifyou've been there, West, but
I've definitely been there. So it'slike it's a choice. I agree that
there's been times where I've had foodwhere it tastes amazing when I'm hungry.
I know, as a kid,I noticed that with Gatorade, Like when
I was sitting down, I'd beendrinking water all day, hadn't been working
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out, had some Gatorade just downabout I was like, very good.
I'd rather have a soda. Andthen when I'm out, I'm working out
or playing basketball, do a sport, whatever, and I'm gonna pop up
and drink a gatorade. It's themost delicious thing I've ever had my entire
life. That's why I said there'sa big diff sweet powdered sugar and cocaine
sometimes exactly. So my point beingwith it is that I think it's all
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relative, Like I know that theMRI's that that we that I've eaten.
Some of the stuff's fine. It'sfine, Like you can eat it.
It's not a big deal. Butyou're not going in there thinking five star
restaurant. And I think a lotof people expect it to taste like something
that came out of the freezer section, and you it's not a lot of
people are very much big on liketexture and things like that. I know
what I'm getting myself into when Ihave an memory. It's nutrition. It's
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it's providing you with fuel to SURVIVECAdoesn't mean it does to taste good or
bad. It's that's what there.What was your favorite one? But I
think we had this discussion, whatwas your favorite. Yeah. It was
macaroni and it came with a cheesepact that you'd squeeze into it and the
chili mac one also it came withchili mac chi. Yeah, and it
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came with cheese, and it camewith m and ms as well and pineapple
and that was like the best.And yeah, I remember one it was
chicken. There was a beef pattyand there was a chicken one. The
chicken, I remember the beef pattYeah. Those ones both you could eat
and then you'd have a cracker andit was like there was it was like
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it was like apple sauce and youhad you can make like a apple pie.
That was what I remember. Likea couple of the ones that I
eaten. I was like, youknow, some of the other stuff,
like it was like be strolling offand ship. I'm like, dude,
don't is that what it was?Is? That was that one of them?
It was something funky probably, Imean, is good anything with the
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macaroni is good. Spaghetti meatballs wasterrible. That just sounds like a bad
idea because it didn't have Yeah,I tried to have it. It was
terrible. It was It's a giantchug of fat looking, it's like it
wanted to be the the chef board Remember the shaped noodle they have back
in the nineties, like out ofthe cant it was spaghettios. Yea,
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I remember, like remember like theInja turtle Spaghetios. I remember those,
Like was my favorite as a kid. It wanted to be spaghettios, but
it just couldn't be. It wasjust it's terrible. But most of the
noodles, as long as it wasn'tthe spaghetti was usually pretty good. Okay,
Now I got a question. Nownot to go completely back off topic
into another topic, but I'm goingto go back to our topic. For
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an individual who is going to bewe'll stick with the shit HiT's the fan
sustainment idea. How many calories shouldthey target for a day of sustained security
operations like within the scope of Europe. Let's say you're working twenty hours a
day at you for five to sixthousand, okay, and then you're rolling
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and then how many Now in yourexperience, how many functional days are they
going to be able to roll likethat? Well, let's say this,
so when we do MSW events,I pretty much never stop eating, and
as soon as we like, beforewe even start the event, I start
eating and then I just I justdon't stop. I'll usually so for those
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events, they're a little different becauseI have the infrastructure in place and I
can buy stuff before I get there. But I'll brought by probably like four
or five cheeseburgers for McDonald's or anequivalent type place, and we call them
pocket burgers, and we just throwthem in our pocket. And then as
the night goes on, you gottayou got a burger in your pocket.
You just reminded me of the secondthe movie, Uh, the Oh Ship
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the Longest Yard, the second one. Yeah, cheeseburger pulled it out of
his crotch. Yep. Yeah.A lot of people. A lot of
people will do that with like cheese. So you get those individual cheese packets,
you just throw them in your pocket, and like it'll be the middle
of summer and people will be pullingcheese packets out. I'm like, oh,
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that's just that's sau It's very soft. Nobody to go to a weekend
long business conference from like, Ican't I can't eat the food that's in
the they're selling out of the concessions, and so I just went and put
uh a cooler in my car andjust like put like some cheese packets and
some some quacamole and some of youknow, quaker, I'm only some dangeroushit,
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bro. You crack that bit,you better eat it all at once.
Well, a little black lung they'rea little personal size or about the
size of a hockey puck. AndI have the top, yeah, you
pull the top off of again fromCostco and then you just you know,
that's a great source of fat too. Yeah, I was doing the keto
dead at the time. So Ihad that with some fruit and some like
some cut up some celery sticks andtoss that in there, and so I
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could just kind of snack on thatand have like some jerky or something like
that, just so I had foodthat was edible that was protein and ft
that's been always a go to,having jerky and then something that has or
that would be for your protein andyour fat that I mean, just as
little as you could get. Andthen if I had never really thought about
carrying peanut butter with me, andthen uh, summer sausage. That's what
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a lot of people do. They'lljust have a whole tube of summer sausage
and just non it all day long. I like the you can get the
just they're called meat sticks. They'relike you can go to the store.
They're right next to the jerky.They come in the big plastic tube.
Yeah, I just buy the beefsticks and just there's like the teriaki and
the pepperoni are the best flavors.I figured you just go for that big
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piece of salami that was as galloon it. Yeah, they're not as
greasy as like if you got likea slim gym or something like that.
The thing is that dollars for likea bunch of them in the tube and
just you know, pull a coupleof them out. It's a good little
source of protein. A lot ofsodium, but it's a good source of
protein. When we're in Spain,that's one of the cool things they had.
You know, they're big on driedmeats over there, and so we
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would buy literally a tube like yousaid the salami, but we would buy
a tube of dried meat what I'massuming its pork or something, and uh,
yeah, we just have that forlunches. That and a thing of
bread and we just sit down andchop it up and eat it. Grab
a few, grab a few tilamocheese chunks, have yourself on like a
Chacuterie board and bust. Yeah.Well, dude, dude, I've been
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there, and it's like the withthe right crackers and ship, you can
get away with murder. But underlike high stress, having salt is necessary.
And doing I salt in that environment, you're not worried about your bloo
pressure there for that couple of days, Like I can say, long,
you have blood pressure, that's thetrue support. Yeah, you really want
to maintain that shit, you know. But I would say that you're saying
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five thousand calories a day and youjust well, that's actually a really interesting
technique of saying. You're not stoppingto eat. You are munching all day
long, so you have a constantsource. Your metabolism is not spiking.
You're just you're keeping you're keeping asteady flow in your blood stream. Your
blood logic. Yeah. Yeah,My logic is is if I have time
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to eat, I should be eatingbecause I don't know and the next chance
will be to eat. And Iprobably don't lose any weight at those events.
I think I probably gain a littlebit away. I mean, you're
usually bloated by the end of it. You're usually you know, yeah,
you're just screwed up by the endof the event. But that's kind of
been my philosophy is I always gointo an event as well as I possibly
can, and then make sure Ihave enough food on me to be able
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to just constantly eat well, notto like to bring back the way past.
But you told me that during RangerSchool, as soon as you got
done, you would carb and calorieload like crazy, trying to gain anything
you could possibly get before you wentback, because it's like you're trying to
prep to go forward. Yeah,So there's three phases in. At the
end of each phase, you getabout eight hours off, and so people
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will ship boxes to themselves of food. And then when you get your package
before you get your time off,so people will sit there and just gorge,
go crazy, yeah, gorge onanything and everything and then usually throw
it up and then just keep eating, just trying to get as much food
as they possibly can. M hm. Well, I mean, yeah,
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mine was a mine was a Sherry'sReese's Pieces pie. I ate a whole
one of those, and a numbertwo for McDonald's, and then I grabbed
something else and we went back onbase. That I ate before I went
through the gate to go into MountainPhase two. Cheeseburgers, a large fry,
and a large sprite. I'm almostof it. Yeah, and pieces
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pie. Yeah, that's the thingis is that anything? Well? I
remember the conversation because that was thatwas an interesting discussion because you said,
anything I could do that would generateany level of potential body fat that I
could lose later, I could loseit later, anything that was in my
system that would sustain and potentially putlike one cell of extra body fat,
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because I was losing that shit nextweek anyway. I mean, and you
said that it was a very ruling. Uh. I like the idea.
Yeah. I like the idea ofsaying, hey, yeah, well I
don't know I'm going to eat again, so if I have the opportunity,
I should be munching along. That'ssmart. And then how much water would
you say, a hydration base,what should they be EXPI before a patrol?
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Yeah, well, I mean that'sall situation dependent. I mean the
food is too, but not asmuch, but situation dependent for the environment
and the patrols and what you're doing. But what, Yeah, what I
try to do is I try tostart off with as much water in me
as I can. So usually that'sone full like water bottle or analogy.
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I'll consume analogy and before I'll stepoff, and then that usually means that's
like p three or four times beforewe get to the objective. But whatever,
you learn how to pee while you'rewalking, which is quite a challenge
for most women. And then yeah, and then I usually I don't bring
a lot of water. I knowa lot of people are really scared of
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not having water on them, butI usually only bring too Like this last
events, I only brought two nalogenesper mission, and each mission probably lasted
for two to four hours. Soso forty eight ounces of water or twenty
four because are they twenty in alljanes? Are they? Or eighteens?
Or at twenty four thirty two thirtytwo, So you have a gallon that's
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legit, like, that's plenty,Like I mean, I would think you'd
burn that up, I mean,and then well, and then once I
get back, i'd consume another orstart to consume. I usually eat something
when I get back too so thatusually kills an algaeen and and then I'll
drink a little bit throughout the day, but usually at that point I'm pretty
hydrated. If I'm if I'm doingthat, I haven't had an issue yet,
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you know, well I wouldn't.Well, I wouldn't think you haven't
had any issue. Well, you'reeating enough salt that wouldn't be factoral.
So I mean, that's that's theonly thing that you have. I would
be worried more about salt and waterthan anything if I was doing high output,
just because I don't want to crampup and that sucks ass. Have
you ever been a heat casualty Wes? Have you ever had it happen?
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Lock completely up middle school? Ona trip up to Canada, I got
like some mild heat stroke about it. Have you ever have you ever had
a heat cash happen for you?Avere? Have you ever had like absolutely
body lock. I was going tosay no, and then I realized that
that's absolutely not true. My Hell'sCanyon trip with two other rangers and I
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hiked up a very very steep inclineand we ran out of water, and
I would probably consider myself a heatcat at that point. I first race
I ever did racing, first weekend, first race ever. It was hot
as hell. It was one hundredand fifty on the tarmac and it was
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smoking ass hot. Well lo andbehold. I was drinking water, but
I wasn't using I was hydrated,but I didn't have any salt. My
body ran out of salt, andI was watching my legs like do all
the weird constrictions, and like everythingis just absolutely nodding up. And then
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I went and raced and I couldbarely move my feet and I almost fell
off the bike at like one hundredand fifty miles an hour, like trying
to hold on to it. Itis. That is the one thing I
learned from Okay, So experience isa great teacher. So you're like,
what are you gonna do before thismajor thing. I'm gona eat a lot
of fucking salty food. I'm gonnaget that salt content up, and I
want to make sure whatever I'm consuminghas enough that I can sustain. Not
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like I'm bringing a shaker of saltand salting my water, but like you're
just eating salty enough food. Dependingon your environment. If it's cold,
salt's probably not going to be asbig a factor, but if it's hot
as hell, it's going to bea big factor. So I think it
goes to support Avery's direction of knowyour environment, know your mission, and
then adjust accordingly. Yeah, Ithink we're going to the time here.
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Yeah, great information. We shoulddefinitely come back on like nutritional things for
like being in commat or going outto events and stuff like that. But
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Hi, I am less and welcometo Unsuppressed. Back again with a new
topic for us. We're gonna throwabout some food, specifically emriase and I
set those up. Avery is goingto have a great lesson for us today
on that. Avery want to takeit away. Yeah, So, you
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know, a lot of people havedifferent types of concerns when it comes to
food and preparing food for the differentsituations that could happen in the future,
whether it's being stranded in your caror backpacking or any of the more advanced,
you know, situations that might popup. And so we're gonna talk
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a little bit about breaking into likedifferent categories of food so that you can
kind of figure out what your palatecan handle, because that's important as well
price range, things like that,and what purpose that food is going to
have when you're storing it. So, yeah, anyway, won't chime in
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any antidotes. Actually, I've gotone. Let's start with Let's start with
your car, because I think that'sone that everybody can easily put together.
In something that and you have todetermine long term sustatement, not long term
like it's just got to be ableto sit in the car a long time,
so how would you start there?So I usually go with a tiered
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system when it comes to like everydaystuff. So I have my backpack which
just has a few little snacks init. Usually those are things like arnola
bars, things that won't melt inthe heat, because you know, if
you do leave your car or yourbackpack in the car, then the heat
might affect the food that's packed.So those are small, little individual things,
and then I'll have something more advanced. A lot of people just grab
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a couple of maris and throw themin their vehicle, which that's really good
because MRI's are ready to meals,ready to eat, which means you just
open them up in a way yougo. You don't have to worry about
cooking them or heating or anything likethat. They usually become a little heating
element, which kind of makes thetaste a little bit better. But in
my opinion, I'm not a bigfan of those at all, and I
think i've I think I've gone aboutten years without ten or so years without
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eating an MR and I'm very proudof that. So I usually do things
from store bought, So that's aprofessional move. So anybody who's had an
MRI. I have eaten enough ofthem that I realized that that is only
for the last ditch effort. Thatis like it's powering through food. So
if you were going to evaluate beyondgranola bars, are you evaluating like self
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sustainment for like a twenty four toforty eight hour period plus are you building
that through in terms of I knowyou're not looking at macros because you're wanting
burst food, right, like highhigh coloric density of a small package.
Yeah. So I was just resettingfrom a trip, and so I was
just kind of like going through thestuff that I have the restocking. So
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I went to Walmart and bottom ofjust stuff and it's a lot of snacks.
I'm a big fan of snacks becausethose are things you can just grab
and throw in your pockets. They'regoing to be more carb based than protein
or fat based, although I findthat getting healthy fats when you're out,
when you're trying to do this typeof thing is really hard. You can
get carbs all day long, snacks, granola bars or chips or some weird
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you know, just whatever you wantto throw candies, hard candies, throw
in your pockets. Carbs for daysbut the challenge is usually when it comes
to healthy fats. If you're goingto be doing anything freeze dried, they
typically don't have fats in them.If you do canned and meats or something
like that, well then it's reallyheavy. So that's a challenge. Proteins
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for some reason, At least nowadayswith the big you know, health craze
that's been going on, you canfind proteins and everything. I mean,
there's freaking protein cookies. Now,there's protein chips, there's I mean we're
just talking about you know, oneor two different types of protein, but
I mean they are every fat.So you healthy fats are like slat.
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You have to find almost natural stuffand that's it's almost like you have to
pull off the land in order todo it. So typically what I use
is I use coconut oil in alot of my stuff because generally speaking,
it's a solid. If it getswarm, it can turn into a liquid,
so you have to take that intoconsideration when you're packaging it. But
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generally speaking, it's a solid.It doesn't mean you have to cook.
More often than not, you'll haveto cook whatever it is you're eating with
that coconut oil. But that's solike I'll do my oatmeal. I'll do
oatmeal, protein powder, coconut oil, honey, and then dried fruits and
I'll throw all that in together andaway I go. So, so do
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you know what the the how muchper like tablespoon of cocaon oil? How
much natural fat it has in it? Then? Because that's supposed to carry
some so I never can that,I thought, Yeah, as it says,
and you can also bust the chicksass with it. Bam. I
mean it's also safe. It's it'sa fat. I know that. That's
a big one. Like for theKeto diet to get yourself into Keyts's as
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they say, take a little bitof Okay, I like one or two
tablespoons, no more than that.Do you have a go to the risk?
Oh? Go ahead? No oh. I was just going to ask,
is do you have a go toprotein bar or anything like that you're
using. I've been using a thingcalled pure protein that has it's like twenty
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two grams of protein, but ithas enough carbs to keep you rolling.
And I actually lift off of one. So like usually I eat that first,
and I take pre and I golift and I'm totally good to go.
It's like it's a good balance.I don't have a crash and uh,
I think that's the one my girlfriend'sbeen using too. Yeah, they're
cost effective and they taste like acandy bar, so you feel like you're
cheating. Works out really good.Yeah. So and they're like the peanut
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butter crunch one is actually really good, which is you know, no big
surprise because oh peanut butter, becausepeanut or has natural fat in it.
That's the one thing I was goingto ask you, how is that something
that you approach like if you're lookingat your bar basse having peanut butter and
stuff in it, because that wasimmediately what I was thinking about when we
started discussing the topic. Yeah,a lot of the stuff I have has
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peanut butter. I have these youcan on Amazon. You can buy these.
I think they're eight ounce bags withlittle twist tops to them, and
I'll fill those with peanut butter andthen you can just squeeze the bag out,
so it's kind of like a largetoothpaste bag. Dude, I was
giving to say, like NASA style. Yeah, and you're good to go.
They are they tough? Are theylike actually pretty they're Yeah, yeah,
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I've never had one puncture. It'sbasically the same material as like a
cat not countback, but it's platypus, but it's a hydration bladder. It's
the same material as that, andthe lids are pretty robust. I had
I did have a lid split onme for something else, and it was
a hygiene product because I use thesame style of bottles for hygiene products,
and I had the lid break onone of those because I tightened it and
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pop the top. Okay, Butanyways, so now if you were have
you ever prepped anything so some ofthe other go ahead, Oh, so
did you have your actually physically preppedlike stuff like the way people do protein
bars or something and actually make themor is it are using just all store
bought stuff easy source. I usestore box stuff because those will have the
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artificial preserves in it that I wantthem to have. So unless I'm going
on a trip that I know theextent of time, you can make biltong,
which is a fat and protein meatsource that's been mixed together. In
the old days, people would mixberries that were ripe at the time in
there with it, dry it outand then that's that was kind of like
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the natural protein or protein bar orhiking food back in the day, but
typically that's not done anymore. Peopledon't do that. People don't like the
idea of having, you know,chunks of fat and chunks of meat in
their backpack. That makes some concernedand right until the time they get hungry
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and need it. So as faras what you've done kind of the full
gambit, since you've gone from likehardcore trekking, like you know, going
around the bottom of a hood asfast as possible, civilian style all the
way to range your stuff as faras for a regular average person under a
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shit hits the fan stress condition.So you have seventy two hours where you're
gonna have to be well, you'regonna have to be up to source water.
But what would you have with youfor food or actual burst and like
being able to like I don't know, run security ops's that's at idea.
Yeah, that's a great, greatangle to put on it. So right
now what I'm doing on my personas I run three power bars, that's
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enough to get through the day.So that whether they're cliff bars or power
bars or some musclehead bar or somethinglike that, something that just has a
lot of calories and it really don'tcare what it tastes like or what it
is. You're just going to eatit while you're walking, probably, And
then in my assault pocket, I'llusually have a sandwich, Like if I
have the resources, I'll actually justmake a sandwich and have it in there.
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But if not, then it's usuallysomething like a meal that I've made.
So what that usually consists of issomething that's going to need to be
cooked. It's usually a chicken ortuna pack along with macaroni and cheese,
microwavable macaroni and cheese pack or microwaveablerice type stuff, and then you just
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mix all that together in your cup, cook it up, and it's ready
to go. So that's full spectrum. I was going to say that would
be a lot of that would beeverything. You have a pretty balanced meal.
So everybody discounts. I'm gonna saypeople sleep on sandwiches like for lifting,
and that is one of the mostbalanced things you can do. It's
one of the best things for yourbody because you're getting basically everything all at
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once. It's close to your macrosif you do it right. But I
was curious. Now for people whohave not enjoyed the deliciousness of a brown
bag meal ready to eat when westart talking about because those have fat entrained
to them, correct, they havetheir like plused up. Oh yeah,
it depends on the year. Becausethe history of the MRI, I swear
we've talked about this have we wantto talk was only I probably mentioned,
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but we didn't. We didn't getinto like back in the old days,
right after Vietnam, when the MRIwas being researched and the c ration was
being retired, the MRI used tocontain about three thousands of three four hundred
calories in it, so a fullday's worth of calories. What they learned
is that people well won, peopleweren't in war all the time, and
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people were eating these things in trainingenvironments and they were getting fat. So
they decided to pare down the amountof calories that were in them. That
afforded them was the opportunity to kindof get more tasty meals. Because back
in the old days, when Ifirst joined the military, we had these
dark brown bagged MRIs, which Ithink was probably the first colored bag that
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they used. And then they progressedthrough generations, but I think we're at
tan now, which is just kindof like the general bag that's been used
for probably ten or fifteen years.But the dark brown bags were an indicator
of some old MRIs and those mrswould have, like one was called the
five Fingers of Death, which wasI think it was four or five maybe
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hot dogs, but they were coveredin this gel latinous fat and it was
very, very disgusting. One ofmy yeah, one of my least favorite
was the beef stew, and thatliterally had chunks of fat in it,
and so that was how they gaveyou calories. But when they paired down
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the calories, that are for themthe opportunity to make tastier meals. So
you're talking about I think the flavor, Yeah, but it's a wrong flavor
because there's too much. I'll believeyou on the nastest of it. Those
are you were like to watch it, Steve nineteen nine. I think is
that the newest juice or is thatfrom that Spanish? Oh cool? Is
that Spain guy? Yeah, Spain, he'll go he'll buy rations and mrs
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from other countries go and do reviewson him. It's really cool. He's
gotten his hands on World War two. The oldest one he gat was an
old ration from pre World War One. I think it was like eighteen eighty.
Are you sure you'd really want toeat that? I mean he did
he ate it. It had rustmost of it that the thing was compromised.
Majority was rusted, but he likehe pulled off the outsides. He
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got this like chunk of like thisdried stew, and he rehydrated with water
and he took a bite it andhe goes, that's terrible, but hey,
true it was good one hundred andten years ago. It was just
disgusting, but it was also fascinatingto see, like the history of all
these food items that nobody remembers.Hey, did they teach you to eat
bugs and shit in Ranger School?Like anything that you can know? They
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offer you a chance in Ranger Schoolto eat a worm, but they didn't
force anybody to instruction as a redwigular I just said worm if you will.
This is This is the Spanish Mre. It's amazing, packed quite
nicely. Wow, what do wehave here? We have it's in Spanish,
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so con pasta. I'm that ischista. I'm assuming that's a sauce
or maybe it's chicken stew or something. Uh, caffeine, Vitamin C,
vitamin so you got drink a citrusflavored drink like emergency. Another one.
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Okay, that's two canteens. Youget these when you're another three canteens work.
Oh this is cool. Yeah,water purification to what's two of them?
That's smart. I think that's whatthey're when in doubt, plug it
up because the dysentery sucks. GoogleTranslate to read all the text. This
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is like, does it come withto Basco? No, that's only American
ship. This is this is creamareally dental Florada so toothpaste. Dude,
they're trying to take care of it. Brush your teeth. More Vitamin C.
Okay, apparently these people are worriedabout they're worried about having Yeah,
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what's that. This is disinfectant.Oh it's a voist tallette. Oh hand
sanitizer. Hands All right, nowwe're to well, hold on, we're
in a main deal. Paper standardis awesome. So here these are little
heating tabs, three of them.Is that? What that is? Is
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that? What that's well, it'susually hydro something or for the meal.
This is a hexelmethyl something that's instantfire. Yeah, don't worry. It
causes cancer. It causes cancer.Here is a bully on cube. Wow.
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And then here is a uh ohsardines. Oh you lost me at
sardines, dude. And this isprobably the main portion of the meal.
Here. I don't know what thatis corriso. Oh what is that?
Con Corrizo? Uh con Czo.Yeah yeah, your your your camera picks
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it up perfectly. Uh yeah.So now the question is is that next
week when you eat it live onthe air and you're like, this ship
is gross, that'll be one.Alicia's supposed to be doing it. This
is a breath mint. Alicia's supposedto We got three of these. We
bought one and and we didn't knowthis, but for doing the event,
they gave us, like as athanks a lot for coming out here and
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hosting the event, they gave usone each and so it was really cool
they put it in these Oh hereis still in here. This is the
company that was hosted us. Soyeah, so they gave us additional meals.
But and then inside here it's astove for the Oh wow, a
little bendi and that's cool and thenpaper. Okay, well that's now.
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Do they still okay, to yourknowledge, in the current generation of US
mrs, do they still come witha little Tabasco bottle? Some of them
switched over to packets. I sawpackets now inside of them there's I do
not see a bottle. And thatlittle bottle was so cool. And I
learned to hate Tabasco sauce because ofit, because I ate so much of
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it when I ate them. Thetimes I was eating, I was like,
oh God, because everything tastes likeDabasco. So it kind of ruined
the kind of ruined it for me. But I used to like Tabasco sauce,
used to. But I mean,if I was eating, like you
know, Ryan astros Ass, Ithrowed the Tabasco on it. Frank's red
hot kind of a guy I did. Here's the thing. They did,
pretty good job. They switched thingsup. They added different flavoring packs.
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So yeah, obviously have your saltand pepper, but then they have this,
uh what's that pack? Uh patsor something just like a like a
non salt flavoring thing. Oh wow, okay, so like like PAM or
something. I don't know, justa generic flavor packet like a seasoning salt
or a seasoning packet that just madeit not taste like shit. Yeah.
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I remember in Aerosoft getting introduced tothem. When I first started going to
the big events around two thousand andseven, I was like, this is
kind of cool. You're eating militaryfood. I was like, it's not
the best food, but some ofthe meals were kind of good. And
there was around two thousand and eightimmersion. I was working at a gun
shop and we had some EMRI's comein and the boss was like, well,
now we don't have to go outto get lunch anymore. Some maris
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like cool, and I opened upone of them. I can't remember what
was the main was, but Iremember getting into the the dessert and it
was a bag of Eminem's and Iremember the uh, the promotional uh packaging
on that bag of Eminem's from whenI was in middle school, and I
like, wait a second, Iremember this packaging around two thousand and three.
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This is two thousand and eight.I'm meeting a five year old bag
of M and MST. What amI doing with my life? And I
mean, you're shooting babies at eachother eating that shit, that's what you're
doing. That's what I like inthe middle of an office, you know,
in a gun store or something.Guns Like, what am I doing
with my life? It was oneof those moments experience. Yeah, I
mean, we're not playing airsoft.It's fun to be part of the experience,
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to have an emry and like that. It's terrible food, but you
know, it's what the military guyseat, so you're kind of like a
whole lot of the I would liketo point out there are certain things in
certain MRS, like the skittles thatwould have been highly coveted. From what
I can tell, you do somehigh trade shit with that. I could
see that being a high trade item. I mean, am I wrong?
Well? These were m and ms. They were definitely old. I remember
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opening up a knee and going like, yeah, this is not that's okay.
They melt your mouth, not inyour hands exactly. Some items where
we're like, no, this isactually pretty good. But then there's some
items this is not anything like whatit's supposed to resemble. I would like
to point out during one of thetraining iterations that we were allowed to be
involved with your company, right,so I hate succotash, like the vegetable
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medley known as suck atash. Likeit's a corn, peas and carrots all
at the same time. Do notlike those three flavors working together, right.
We trained all day working with soldiersdoing the thing in the mountatown.
In the evening, they made ameal and they brought out all the cooking
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stuff and they had a hot meal. That shit was fucking delicious. And
what I want to point out isthis is the point the things that you
find less flavorful and less wonderful whenyou're all full fed and everything's good to
go, versus when you're hungry andyour body's saying I need this thing and
that thing and the other thing.Two totally different flavor packets kick off.
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There's a reason why, like likecountries like North Korea, they teach people
to eat bugs and shit, andall of a sudden they're like, yeah,
man, I'm having this delicious likeroach stew and they're like good with
it. Where we'd be like,oh, hell no, but they're like,
man, you know need you know, vitamins you're getting out of roach
stew. And that's like that's whatI'm saying. It's like if you what
you're what your palette says. Whenyou are in civilian life and everything is
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what you want it to be,and there's a big competition on flavor versus
what necessity provides. All of asudden, that necessity like, man,
that tastes fine. Your body's like, you know what, block out all
the bad here, I'm this soaktad, give me another scoop. That's
delicious. So I mean, that'swhy I think. I've had MR's the
same memory to MRI twice, andyou know, it didn't change the flavor.
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I've had it where it tastes like, oh my fucking god, how
am I eating this? And othertime I was like, man, it's
pretty good shit. So I mean, I mean, we've all been there.
I'm sure. I don't know ifyou've been there, West, but
I've definitely been there. So it'slike it's a choice. I agree that
there's been times where I've had foodwhere it tastes amazing when I'm hungry.
I know, as a kid,I noticed that with Gatorade, Like when
I was sitting down, I'd beendrinking water all day, hadn't been working
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out, had some Gatorade just downabout I was like, very good.
I'd rather have a soda. Andthen when I'm out, I'm working out
or playing basketball, do a sport, whatever, and I'm gonna pop up
and drink a gatorade. It's themost delicious thing I've ever had my entire
life. That's why I said there'sa big diff sweet powdered sugar and cocaine
sometimes exactly. So my point beingwith it is that I think it's all
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relative, Like I know that theMRI's that that we that I've eaten.
Some of the stuff's fine. It'sfine, Like you can eat it.
It's not a big deal. Butyou're not going in there thinking five star
restaurant. And I think a lotof people expect it to taste like something
that came out of the freezer section, and you it's not a lot of
people are very much big on liketexture and things like that. I know
what I'm getting myself into when Ihave an memory. It's nutrition. It's
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it's providing you with fuel to SURVIVECAdoesn't mean it does to taste good or
bad. It's that's what there.What was your favorite one? But I
think we had this discussion, whatwas your favorite. Yeah. It was
macaroni and it came with a cheesepact that you'd squeeze into it and the
chili mac one also it came withchili mac chi. Yeah, and it
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came with cheese, and it camewith m and ms as well and pineapple
and that was like the best.And yeah, I remember one it was
chicken. There was a beef pattyand there was a chicken one. The
chicken, I remember the beef pattYeah. Those ones both you could eat
and then you'd have a cracker andit was like there was it was like
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it was like apple sauce and youhad you can make like a apple pie.
That was what I remember. Likea couple of the ones that I
eaten. I was like, youknow, some of the other stuff,
like it was like be strolling offand ship. I'm like, dude,
don't is that what it was?Is? That was that one of them?
It was something funky probably, Imean, is good anything with the
(23:21):
macaroni is good. Spaghetti meatballs wasterrible. That just sounds like a bad
idea because it didn't have Yeah,I tried to have it. It was
terrible. It was It's a giantchug of fat looking, it's like it
wanted to be the the chef board Remember the shaped noodle they have back
in the nineties, like out ofthe cant it was spaghettios. Yea,
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I remember, like remember like theInja turtle Spaghetios. I remember those,
Like was my favorite as a kid. It wanted to be spaghettios, but
it just couldn't be. It wasjust it's terrible. But most of the
noodles, as long as it wasn'tthe spaghetti was usually pretty good. Okay,
Now I got a question. Nownot to go completely back off topic
into another topic, but I'm goingto go back to our topic. For
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an individual who is going to bewe'll stick with the shit HiT's the fan
sustainment idea. How many calories shouldthey target for a day of sustained security
operations like within the scope of Europe. Let's say you're working twenty hours a
day at you for five to sixthousand, okay, and then you're rolling
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and then how many Now in yourexperience, how many functional days are they
going to be able to roll likethat? Well, let's say this,
so when we do MSW events,I pretty much never stop eating, and
as soon as we like, beforewe even start the event, I start
eating and then I just I justdon't stop. I'll usually so for those
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events, they're a little different becauseI have the infrastructure in place and I
can buy stuff before I get there. But I'll brought by probably like four
or five cheeseburgers for McDonald's or anequivalent type place, and we call them
pocket burgers, and we just throwthem in our pocket. And then as
the night goes on, you gottayou got a burger in your pocket.
You just reminded me of the secondthe movie, Uh, the Oh Ship
(25:15):
the Longest Yard, the second one. Yeah, cheeseburger pulled it out of
his crotch. Yep. Yeah.A lot of people. A lot of
people will do that with like cheese. So you get those individual cheese packets,
you just throw them in your pocket, and like it'll be the middle
of summer and people will be pullingcheese packets out. I'm like, oh,
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that's just that's sau It's very soft. Nobody to go to a weekend
long business conference from like, Ican't I can't eat the food that's in
the they're selling out of the concessions, and so I just went and put
uh a cooler in my car andjust like put like some cheese packets and
some some quacamole and some of youknow, quaker, I'm only some dangeroushit,
(26:00):
bro. You crack that bit,you better eat it all at once.
Well, a little black lung they'rea little personal size or about the
size of a hockey puck. AndI have the top, yeah, you
pull the top off of again fromCostco and then you just you know,
that's a great source of fat too. Yeah, I was doing the keto
dead at the time. So Ihad that with some fruit and some like
some cut up some celery sticks andtoss that in there, and so I
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could just kind of snack on thatand have like some jerky or something like
that, just so I had foodthat was edible that was protein and ft
that's been always a go to,having jerky and then something that has or
that would be for your protein andyour fat that I mean, just as
little as you could get. Andthen if I had never really thought about
carrying peanut butter with me, andthen uh, summer sausage. That's what
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a lot of people do. They'lljust have a whole tube of summer sausage
and just non it all day long. I like the you can get the
just they're called meat sticks. They'relike you can go to the store.
They're right next to the jerky.They come in the big plastic tube.
Yeah, I just buy the beefsticks and just there's like the teriaki and
the pepperoni are the best flavors.I figured you just go for that big
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piece of salami that was as galloon it. Yeah, they're not as
greasy as like if you got likea slim gym or something like that.
The thing is that dollars for likea bunch of them in the tube and
just you know, pull a coupleof them out. It's a good little
source of protein. A lot ofsodium, but it's a good source of
protein. When we're in Spain,that's one of the cool things they had.
You know, they're big on driedmeats over there, and so we
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would buy literally a tube like yousaid the salami, but we would buy
a tube of dried meat what I'massuming its pork or something, and uh,
yeah, we just have that forlunches. That and a thing of
bread and we just sit down andchop it up and eat it. Grab
a few, grab a few tilamocheese chunks, have yourself on like a
Chacuterie board and bust. Yeah.Well, dude, dude, I've been
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there, and it's like the withthe right crackers and ship, you can
get away with murder. But underlike high stress, having salt is necessary.
And doing I salt in that environment, you're not worried about your bloo
pressure there for that couple of days, Like I can say, long,
you have blood pressure, that's thetrue support. Yeah, you really want
to maintain that shit, you know. But I would say that you're saying
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five thousand calories a day and youjust well, that's actually a really interesting
technique of saying. You're not stoppingto eat. You are munching all day
long, so you have a constantsource. Your metabolism is not spiking.
You're just you're keeping you're keeping asteady flow in your blood stream. Your
blood logic. Yeah. Yeah,My logic is is if I have time
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to eat, I should be eatingbecause I don't know and the next chance
will be to eat. And Iprobably don't lose any weight at those events.
I think I probably gain a littlebit away. I mean, you're
usually bloated by the end of it. You're usually you know, yeah,
you're just screwed up by the endof the event. But that's kind of
been my philosophy is I always gointo an event as well as I possibly
can, and then make sure Ihave enough food on me to be able
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to just constantly eat well, notto like to bring back the way past.
But you told me that during RangerSchool, as soon as you got
done, you would carb and calorieload like crazy, trying to gain anything
you could possibly get before you wentback, because it's like you're trying to
prep to go forward. Yeah,So there's three phases in. At the
end of each phase, you getabout eight hours off, and so people
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will ship boxes to themselves of food. And then when you get your package
before you get your time off,so people will sit there and just gorge,
go crazy, yeah, gorge onanything and everything and then usually throw
it up and then just keep eating, just trying to get as much food
as they possibly can. M hm. Well, I mean, yeah,
(29:41):
mine was a mine was a Sherry'sReese's Pieces pie. I ate a whole
one of those, and a numbertwo for McDonald's, and then I grabbed
something else and we went back onbase. That I ate before I went
through the gate to go into MountainPhase two. Cheeseburgers, a large fry,
and a large sprite. I'm almostof it. Yeah, and pieces
(30:03):
pie. Yeah, that's the thingis is that anything? Well? I
remember the conversation because that was thatwas an interesting discussion because you said,
anything I could do that would generateany level of potential body fat that I
could lose later, I could loseit later, anything that was in my
system that would sustain and potentially putlike one cell of extra body fat,
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because I was losing that shit nextweek anyway. I mean, and you
said that it was a very ruling. Uh. I like the idea.
Yeah. I like the idea ofsaying, hey, yeah, well I
don't know I'm going to eat again, so if I have the opportunity,
I should be munching along. That'ssmart. And then how much water would
you say, a hydration base,what should they be EXPI before a patrol?
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Yeah, well, I mean that'sall situation dependent. I mean the
food is too, but not asmuch, but situation dependent for the environment
and the patrols and what you're doing. But what, Yeah, what I
try to do is I try tostart off with as much water in me
as I can. So usually that'sone full like water bottle or analogy.
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I'll consume analogy and before I'll stepoff, and then that usually means that's
like p three or four times beforewe get to the objective. But whatever,
you learn how to pee while you'rewalking, which is quite a challenge
for most women. And then yeah, and then I usually I don't bring
a lot of water. I knowa lot of people are really scared of
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not having water on them, butI usually only bring too Like this last
events, I only brought two nalogenesper mission, and each mission probably lasted
for two to four hours. Soso forty eight ounces of water or twenty
four because are they twenty in alljanes? Are they? Or eighteens?
Or at twenty four thirty two thirtytwo, So you have a gallon that's
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legit, like, that's plenty,Like I mean, I would think you'd
burn that up, I mean,and then well, and then once I
get back, i'd consume another orstart to consume. I usually eat something
when I get back too so thatusually kills an algaeen and and then I'll
drink a little bit throughout the day, but usually at that point I'm pretty
hydrated. If I'm if I'm doingthat, I haven't had an issue yet,
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you know, well I wouldn't.Well, I wouldn't think you haven't
had any issue. Well, you'reeating enough salt that wouldn't be factoral.
So I mean, that's that's theonly thing that you have. I would
be worried more about salt and waterthan anything if I was doing high output,
just because I don't want to crampup and that sucks ass. Have
you ever been a heat casualty Wes? Have you ever had it happen?
(32:38):
Lock completely up middle school? Ona trip up to Canada, I got
like some mild heat stroke about it. Have you ever have you ever had
a heat cash happen for you?Avere? Have you ever had like absolutely
body lock. I was going tosay no, and then I realized that
that's absolutely not true. My Hell'sCanyon trip with two other rangers and I
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hiked up a very very steep inclineand we ran out of water, and
I would probably consider myself a heatcat at that point. I first race
I ever did racing, first weekend, first race ever. It was hot
as hell. It was one hundredand fifty on the tarmac and it was
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smoking ass hot. Well lo andbehold. I was drinking water, but
I wasn't using I was hydrated,but I didn't have any salt. My
body ran out of salt, andI was watching my legs like do all
the weird constrictions, and like everythingis just absolutely nodding up. And then
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I went and raced and I couldbarely move my feet and I almost fell
off the bike at like one hundredand fifty miles an hour, like trying
to hold on to it. Itis. That is the one thing I
learned from Okay, So experience isa great teacher. So you're like,
what are you gonna do before thismajor thing. I'm gona eat a lot
of fucking salty food. I'm gonnaget that salt content up, and I
want to make sure whatever I'm consuminghas enough that I can sustain. Not
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like I'm bringing a shaker of saltand salting my water, but like you're
just eating salty enough food. Dependingon your environment. If it's cold,
salt's probably not going to be asbig a factor, but if it's hot
as hell, it's going to bea big factor. So I think it
goes to support Avery's direction of knowyour environment, know your mission, and
then adjust accordingly. Yeah, Ithink we're going to the time here.
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Yeah, great information. We shoulddefinitely come back on like nutritional things for
like being in commat or going outto events and stuff like that. But
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