Steeltoeberfest w Karl from WATP!

This week we have a massive guest! That’s right, Karl from WATP joins the show to talk SteelToe, MLB playoffs, and more! 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Jimmy kids. Welcome back to the United States of Australia.
I am the Aussie guy and it's a big episode.
We have a massive guest, so let's get into it.
First of all, as is here every week is your

(00:41):
friend and mine. Just Josh. How you doing, brother, doing good?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Not bad? Not bad? Yeah, well we're just talking about
our high state that second ago.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Next up is our big special guest, a man who
who needs to invest in a better mailbox. Please welcome
Carl Hamburger.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Thanks for having me, Azie Gay, good to see you, buddy,
Thank you, Mat Thanks for joining us so we appreciate
you giving us your time.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
And sorry, before we go any further, we better introduce
the man who thinks the mailbox is his asshole, Robbie
the Marina fan.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Hey, no, brother, I honestly didn't see that on coming.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
That's a little.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
After how many episodes we've done this and it still
stuns me. Yeahs, come up with something. Thanks for joining
us this week, Robbie, I know you weren't feeling well
better on the road.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Really let us down, Robbie, are you a hoarder?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:51):
These are cookbooks. My dad's books in the background.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Most people don't find the most cluttered part of their
house and then film in front of it.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah. Well, I've asked to move these bookshelves, and he said,
you can just.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Get more bookshelves and take some of the books off.
And that's what we pile on top of each other
like that.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, I know, I know he's.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Trusting me out. Is at least have abotic can you
fight shit?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's filed by the Dewey decimal system.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
It better be.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
There is a very complex system where he can find
a book at any time and none of it. He
refuses to tell any of us how it works.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
So does one book pulling it out open like a
door somewhere.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, probably we're not allowed to. It's very it's weird.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, you have said before that your dad always notices
if you've taken a book.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, he owns over ten thousand military history books. I
could take one, he would notice within twenty four hours.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
The day was say that I should turn around. This
is art behind me, motherfucker, this is art.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Tremendous. What a great stot. Yeah, I will. I mentioned
your mailbox and I do want to talk a little
bit of stuttering. John later. But everybody around here that
is a regulars around here know that there's one topic
we get to first. So let's get in.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Terren's boring and April adds nothing, it's gonna be great.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
We're scripping this morning.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Come on, it's time for, it's time for. It's time
for movie and the scramp. It's time for, it's time for.
It's time for movie and the scramp. It's gonna be
it's gonna be mediocre, medi ogerrit bark.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
It's time for.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
It's time far, it's time for movie and the scrap.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yes, it is time for movie and the scrap.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
I have not worn my Sete sweatshirt a very long time.
It resentting today. My buddy's over there.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
They are a collector's item now, although there are rumors
the store is gonna kick back off again. Yeah, what's
your thoughts on that? Like, what what time frame do
you put on the Steel Toast store going out?

Speaker 4 (04:10):
I would not put an over under on that. He
is so lazy. He never gets anything done. And the
proof of it is this thing where he's now showing
the super chats up on screen, something that he claimed
he didn't know how to do for all the time.
All it took was Alex Stein texting him a link
to a YouTube video that explains how to do that
and OBS He's like, oh, I guess you can do this.
You know you could have also googled that yourself, Aaron,

(04:33):
you didn't need Elex Stye to take time out of
his day to show you how to do that.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
But also, I don't understand his show is the most
basic and the most suited to stream yard, and he's
not just using Streamyard, Like what is mean basic?

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah? Why would he streamyard? It's so easy. There's just
buttons to click up and everything works.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yes, exactly, Like I don't understand why he needs to
go through OBS, Like I understand for all these other
shows that like You've got super tips going on and
all these other different things going on. Melton's got different
things going on, Like I get it for people that
high tech, but he is the most basic of basic.
Would be very simple for him to run through Streamyard.
But look, I guess he continues to keep like a

(05:16):
liking to keep making mistakes. What I wanted to get
into this week, you guys almost started touching on on
this little Piggy God, I've blanked on the name for
a second there. Melton brought it up briefly, and I
found a clip earlier, like just before we went on.
I was like, Oh, this is perfect to get into

(05:38):
this discussion. So Melton brought up the fact about his
kids and his daughter cut the cutting the pictures out,
and this clip just happened to pop up on my
YouTube and it's two weeks old, but it's a Star
of nineteen clip. I clipped a little bit out of
it that I sort of wanted to to play the discussion.

(06:00):
I guess about what's going on here.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
I'll be seeing April Anderson ever again. Thank you.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
I have no intention to all her lies and horseshit,
but ah, don't worry. It's not like it affected my
kids or anything. It's not like my oldest cut her
out of all the pictures because she knows what she
was up to. It's not It's not like my ex

(06:32):
wife and I had to have a talk with her
because of all of her and horseshit behavior going.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
So right there, he's using the kids saying that Charlotte, well,
he's oldest was cutting her out of pictures. What's interesting
is how the turns about to happen. But this right
here is part of the problem. Do you think cow
like talking about stuff like this is gonna make things

(07:03):
worse for his daughter rather than just dealing with it
behind the scenes.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. He loves
to say that Melton sexually harasses his ten year old daughter.
But she's probably not watching a lot of n I
don't know how today she is on that program. But
this is something that all of her friends will see.
Her dad does an internet show. All of her friends
will see this, and then he's airing this dirty laundry

(07:28):
that she doesn't want out there, about having to have
conversations with her mom and him and cutting photos of
April out. That's embarrassing. Shit, Would you want someone talking
about you like that?

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Aaron?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Talk about what you're doing behind the scenes exactly? And
all right, the turns about to happen. I'll kick the
clip back off. But yeah, here's where the turn really
goes and you find out what this is really all
about in public.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
You don't develop a deep and hatred for someone when
they do that. And then of course all the not
taking responsibility, blaming shit on other people, accusing other people
of shit that never happened because he didn't get your way. Yeah,
there's some hatred there, there's some rewriting history.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Again, she didn't do she didn't accuse you of these things.
After she left you. She accused you of these things.
What a year into the marriage, six months into the matter,
I forget how long into the marriage. But he's now
trying to rewrite history and say that she only accused
him of domestic abuse after they left, after he left

(08:35):
her she left him, sorry, and not during the marriage.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
It's one of these things, Carl, we always talk about
where he just gaslights gaslights his audience.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
If you only watch Dielto's show, there's a percentage of
people who only watched Dilto's show you would have a
warped sense of what the reality is in this guy's
life because he spins everything to be the opposite of
what's really going on.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, exactly. And I think at the moment, he's just
clinging on to that like local group, and he's just like,
can we ride this out, ride this out and just
hold on to them, because I think he just wants
to go back. Well, we all know he wants to
go back to radio, but he wants to go back
to that safe haven.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
But if that was the case, and and maybe that
is because Aaron seems to be a very stupid person.
If that were the case, wouldn't it be smarter to
not even address any.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Of this ship of course it would would.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
It'd be better to not bring up Melton and Chad
Zumac And Chad's doing great now, love him, He's really funny.
Why are you bringing this shit up? Because all you're
doing is inviting people to go check out what they're
saying and doing. And he'd be way wiser. Just do
a show, do a show for his redneck audience that
loves to chant the N word, and do that and
rumble and make your forty eight bucks an hour and

(09:53):
call it a day.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
No, I agree, he should not talk about any of it,
and that's his mistake. But it's clear that he doesn't
want the attention of so many people like scrutinizing him
like he's realized people. He gets exposed very quickly. And
he's got this dumb group of people that he can
he can fall and they keep giving him money. Yeah,

(10:16):
I just think he's just trying to cling onto those
people because there's no explanation for why he's behaving the
way he is and why he just keeps stepping on rakes.
As you always say about stuttering, John.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's an excellent freeze there again.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, that is a great freeze. And I think that's
actually pretty much the end of that video Hatred.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
So it's such a smug look at his face.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, yeah, there's so many smug looks in like ten
fifteen years, he's going to be a doppelg hear from
mel Caper and that's not a good look.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
That's not a bad hair hair thing.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Mel Kiper's got a lot more hair though he's mel
Kiper has stood up at the.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Front like years ago now of Aaron. He is aging rapidly,
so I could just know.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, I think this last years I used him quite significantly.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
He's a very stressful job Ozzie guy, trying.

Speaker 8 (11:16):
To reach trying to reach two goals on specific days.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Yes, that's a lot. I mean he has night terrors
about it, you know. I mean, you guys, you've all
had the you know, I used to be a short
order cook, so i'd have the dreams with the tickets
coming up and you can't keep up. It's so so
much coming in and you're getting overwhelmed. He must have
gold nightmares that are mesmerizing.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
It's funny. Yeah, you bring up the goal, and it's
because it's not something that I was particularly focused on
this week. There's there's a couple of little things in there.
But I was talking to Lucy Todd bokx Kylie last
week on the showy checking out.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Okay, so now you're gonna doctor? Is that your move now?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah? The once over with Kaylee. Yeah, but no, I
talked about how like for you, like you say you
make a living doing your podcast, and of course I
believe you, but like you know, I doubt personally doubt
and you can correct me if you want, or you
can just keep it to yourself. But I assume this

(12:20):
is not your only income stream, just your podcast, like
you've still got other things going on.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
To some degree. Honestly, when I left the agency, so,
I was a partner at a digital marketing agency and
the summer of twenty twenty I decided to leave that
and focus on podcasting more. I still took on a
lot of freelance work for digital marketing. For a couple
of years I was doing that and podcasting, and now
I don't do any digital marketing at all. I do

(12:48):
have the other property that John was checking out down
in Florida, that's an income stream forma, but for the
most part it's all podcasting.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, fair enough. But I guess the point is is
Aaron's hole focus is because it's just the goal and
this is his only well, other than the boxing, and
we'll get to that, but this is his only income stream.
Like I don't think he looks at it in the
right way, like in set, Like obviously we all assume
he should go get a job and do this on

(13:18):
the side. But to be so money focused and to
look at other people and go, oh, we're doing better
than then, we're doing better than them, It's like you
don't know what else they've got going on. You're assuming
they're the same as what you are. And yeah, that's
one of the things I always notice is he's just
talking about YouTube numbers and donations, and it's like, well,

(13:40):
a lot of us have got other things going on.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
I did a show with Aaron last year before I
knew a lot about Steeltel. He did an interview he
used to do. Actually, at that time, he was doing
three shows a day. He would do the morning show,
they did an interview show around noon that's when I
was at and then he did the evening show as well.
And I remember telling I'm like, Aaron, you can't sustain this.
You're doing week too many shows. How do you possibly
prep for a good show if you're constantly just like now,

(14:03):
I gotta do an evening show. Now I wake up
and do a morning show.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Now I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Afternoon like There's no way you can maintain that schedule.
And he explained to me, he goes, well, Carl, I
gotta do it, though, because I gotta you know, since
we left the radio and Twitch, I gotta support Corey,
and I gotta support April, and and he's going through
the list of all the people, all of his guys
back then at the time, I said, well, you have
the wrong approach to podcasting. You should start a show

(14:27):
that makes money for you, and then you can grow
it as more and more money comes in and start
to pay people to help you out. Starting it with
this huge overhead and going we have to make this
much money for this overhead. Is now how any business starts.
You don't start a business with twelve employees making zero
money coming in.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, and I think you played the clip the other day.
Obviously I get confused whether it's you or Milton or
thin Key or whatever. But the clip of him explaining
April's where the April budget has gone, Yes, exactly. And
what I find funny about that is he loves to

(15:05):
again play both sides of the coin of where April
she wanted all these expensive things. She just wanted all
these expensive dresses, and she'd buy food at the expensive
organic stores and you know, not the cheap place and
all that. But then on the flip side of his life, well,
April didn't really contribute much in terms of cost or
you know, income, And it's like, you can't have it

(15:28):
both ways. She was either draining you financially or she
wasn't an impact on it.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Did We shouldn't be talking about this guy's personal finances.
It's ridiculous, exactly, shit up, like the fact like this
is where this is where he fucked it all up
to begin with. He goes, Guys, we just need to
make a modest amount of money that just keeps us going.
I'm not trying to get rich on this. I just
need three fifty in the morning, two fifty in the
evening that covers our expectes. We break even. It's like,

(15:52):
why even say that, Why not try to make a
huge profit. Why not trying to make as much money
as possible? No one would be begrudge.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
You that, right, five in the morning, seven fifty at night.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Right. Honestly, we've talked about this before, the fact that
he's doing the movie math as he's getting donations in
he's changing gross to net and explaining that thanks to
one hundred bucks, we get seventy of that, or it's
through Apple, we'll take sixty of that, and he's constantly
doing this math that You're like, why not make the
number a gross number so that you're not doing any
math and making a number that like if you hit it, wow,

(16:27):
seven to fifty, one thousand bucks whatever, And then if
you don't hit it and you get half of it,
you're still making more than you would have made with
your three fifty goal.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, exactly a couple of weeks ago, just before my vacation,
we set a goal because Aaron was walking me because
he was making money, and I wasn't. This was just
after the you know, our colfrontation, and so I set
a two and a half thousand dollars goal for that
show and I ended up getting a couple hundred bucks.
You know, he goes it was awesome. Was like, I
wasn't gonna get that money before, and you know, it
happened to work.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Everyone's better it's setting a goal than Aaron is. I've
discovered that whether it's us on this little picky or blind.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
You, Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, that is the most fun
part of his show. And I think it's the easiest
to laugh at. And I think that's why blind Mike
has done so well with his steel toe coverage. And yeah,
I couldn't believe that five or five and half hours
that he did for the Goal show. It was just
it was great entertainment, Like it really was. He turned

(17:21):
Aaron's begging into some of the best, funniest entertainment, So,
you know, it was good stuff. I wanted to say,
I got old. Christian Blatt got me with the Cringe
of the Week for my original attempt to name that projection.
Now I'm not going to go with the game again,
but I feel like I was sabotaged by my co

(17:43):
host that day. I think the game makes perfect sense
and I think if someone like yourself was on Carl,
you would have been much better at the game. The
point of the game is you play a group of
Aaron criticizing someone and you see if you could think
of an example of Aaron doing the exact thing he's
criticizing that person. For now, today's are a little bit

(18:04):
more general. They're not specific things, but it's just you
just can't help We just got Aaron. You're talking about yourself.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
So.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Let's start with this one. He's going after April.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
If I don't she doesn't really have a strong conviction
one where I think, like everything else in her life,
it depends on how it affects her, and then her
morals are flexible. I would say morals are flexible, Ukle.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Would you have an example of Aaron doing exactly that,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Know, wife swapping and drug use and doing drugs with
the kids downstairs. Yeah, I can think of a few examples,
and not.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
To mention, just just the Geno thing and the Keanu
thing of like he needed to pull them aboard straight
away because he needed to get to them before April,
and then as soon as April got to them, it
was like they're fucking useless, They're pieces of ship, you know,
like it just all of a sudden that changed. I
love when he calls Keanu a piece of ship like that.

(19:13):
When that guy is calling Keanu a piece of shit,
it's like, come on, man, like what are you even
talking about? At this point, I'm.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Trying to think if I've ever had a regular co
host on my show that I've bad mouthed, I can't imagine,
Like Kevin used to be my co host, Crows was
on the show for a long time. I can't imagine
coming out to be like, they're fucking Cavin guy is
a real piece of shit. I hated him on the show.
He was terrible at it. That's an insane.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Way to be, no, I agree, And like we had
a co host Lee look and you know, privately, behind
the scenes, I was probably a little bit of a
dick to her, and but you know, she was sort
of not really interesting what.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I was.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
I was being addicted any anyway, and she wasn't really
interested in the show anymore. And then that was it,
Like that was all we ever, That's all we ever
said was you know, there was no I'm not gonna
sit there and go, hey, this person I force fed
you for two years, she sucked and yeah she's never
should have been on the show. Like that's that's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, the the and I don't know if you have
this in your clip package, but the revelation that he
came out this week with that every episode of Steeltoe
between November of twenty twenty three and March of twenty
twenty four is.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Dug Yes, that's all I actually did see. And I
was like, so you're just you're just admitting you stole
money for all us, but you're like thanks, man, like
I'm glad you stay. It was just why it was
admitting it is.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Wild, Robbie, because it is wild because if you think
about April first to June or whatever, where all of
a sudden, the truth was starting to come out in
drips and drabs, and we learned about this crazy relationship
and the drug use, and everyone's tuned in and everyone's
watching that. Okay, that was an interesting little era of
steel Toe. Now what is it is he gonna look

(21:04):
back at this era when he wasn't allowed to talk
about anyone because of the hi roh and the pending felony,
and he's got these court dates and he's checking out
his probation officers. I guarantee we're gonna see come February.
All right, guys, now this is the real show again.
I couldn't do it before. Sorry, all those episodes sucked,
but this is gonna be great.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
There always positions when they like when they're running against somebody,
they're like, this guy's a real piece of shit, like
you should never vote for me, And then the general
election is like this man has been a man I've
respected my entire life JD.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Vans and Trump is a perfect example of that.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Well remember Ted Cruiz. I was like, no, I'm gonna
tell the real truth about Trump, and this has coming
from somebody. Yeah, anyway, like just vote. Yeah, it just
reminds you of politicians doing that.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, I could call.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Let's go to my next rejection.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
Like it's it's like could you keep making miss Like
how many more mistakes can you make? How much more
of a piece of shit can you make yourself look like?
You make yourself look like such a piece of shit.
People don't even have to respond to you. They just
have to point at you and go, right, that's he
does that.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I mean, that's what we do to you, man.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, And that the point Wherebie like, yeah, like I
said that one's been more general, it's time to give
a specific example of him. It's just a constant flow
of wrong decision, wrong decision coming across like a piece
of shit, even just in the way he treats his friends.
Have you seen some of the stuff Kyle of how
he's been treating Johnny Crutches.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Lightly, Yeah, I think, And this has been going on
for weeks. You like, when you're in a relationship and
you don't want to be the one to dump the
other person, and they're both trying to get dumped. It's
just like, well I from a shitty boyfriend. She'll dump
me and then I won't ye know. Yeah, they have
a bad relationship right now. You can just tell because
when Johnny Crutches is doing his solo showing, people bring

(23:02):
up Aaron he's been unloading a little bit, and then
Aaron to Johnny's face when when he was doing that
bit where he's like, well we made the goal with Matt,
So guys, if you don't give us money, well, Johnny
Crutches here, he's gonna feel like a giant loser, piece
of garbage. He's gonna feel such a piece of shit
and we're not getting money. And I guess you guys
hate Johnny Crutches. I guess he's garbage. Jesus dude.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, that's a real friend right there.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
That's yeah, damn good bit there, Aaron. I also like
in that clip you just played though, where Aaron's got
nothing so he goes. I mean, this is the person
that you know, you could criticize them or you just
be like, look at them, Okay, good one. Could you
be a little more specific than that? Handles nuts? You
got nothing? Okay, got it?

Speaker 1 (23:47):
And it comes to me the case with a you
know again with the locales, like of course self awareness
or lack of self awareness. I think he's the key
ingredient to any locale, like they can't be aware of
what's going on all the way, as they wouldn't keep
doing this stuff. But now I've lost I lost my
trying to thought. I was started thinking about something else.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
My bad.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Let's just move on. I'll pull up the next projection clip.
I think there's one more. I think I brought three.
Oh yeah there is again. This is more general.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
It's getting enough play.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
It's interesting, it's fascinating when people are falling apart in
a weird situation.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
It's hard not to look. I mean, I get I
get it.

Speaker 7 (24:33):
Like watching watching those two is it's watching a thirty
car pile up on the highway. You don't want to
slow down because you're gonna traffic, and you know the
drivers behind you might not be as interested as you are.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
But it's such more big curiosity you have to look
at it.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Tell you love how Aaron drags out a point like that?
Is that him filling for four hours? Like we got
the point? It's like a thirty car pile up. Yeah,
you want to stop and look and he's like, you know,
you don't want to annoy the people behind job, but
like we all want to look at like it's amazing
how he just the lave is the point? Sometimes?

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah we got a train rock, Yeah we got it. Yeah,
it's a it's a common phrase for a reason. We
all understand that. Also, there's never been a case where
the people behind you didn't want to see the thirty
car pilot. We all want to see it.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Well, because everyone's slowed down. Now, so why are we
slowing down?

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (25:24):
This is the Yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
George Carlo's got that great bet where he's like, oh,
my wife's never seen a dead body officer. Could you
bring it over to the car please. My wife wants
to take a look at that.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, one of the funnier ones. Oh that was it
for projection?

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Hey, I just want to say Christian Blatt, he has
a comment in here. He says, it's simple. Aaron overpays
Johnny and he knows it. So Johnny keeps coming back
for the easy money. Now, Aaron's been making a big
deal about how he gave Johnny a raise, and you
might know it's better than I do. Ozzy guy, is
it like seventy five bucks an episode?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
He gives that's the number that that's the number of
the pad Trick says. But Aaron keeps saying he doubled
his salary. Now was he paying I don't believe he
was paying him thirty seven to fifty before, But again it's.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Aaron, so it could be one hundred dollars could have
gone from fifty to one hundred.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
It could be that's what Aaron. Well, that's what Aaron's claiming,
because I think it was pretty common knowledge as that
Johnny was getting paid fifty bucks before.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
So I don't know that that's overpaying Christian.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Maybe it is, but twenty five bucks an hour.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
I do have to say, if you're Aaron and you're
looking at this and you're going, geez, I do my
solo shows. I make the goal. I do these shows
with Johnny and I have to give him a hundred bucks.
That sucks. You know, you get to a point where
you give people raises and you go, oh, they're no
longer really worth this to me anymore. So that's probably
where we're at with it. Also, Gobat's black cast.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
A screat I'll say, a Dodgees fan, I amty. So
there you go, Robbie eakan, Yeah he knew that. Come on,
you can take that off the screen anytime.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, whoa.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
All right? So yeah, this is the main thing I clipped,
and yeah it talks about the boxing thing, and then
a little reaction to Matt to where yeah, again, just
being a co host to this guy is just phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
I'm gonna do fuck it, here's what I'm doing.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
I'm taking my I'm taking the boxing pay from training
all these kids, from doing all the training and stuff.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
I get a little I get a little stipend.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Just there the training and stuff. Yeah, I think I
think that's the key word is what he's actually doing.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Imagine being so like down in your luck that you
have to use him as your boxing coach.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
My god, So I assume it's like wiping down equipment,
mapping flors perhaps, yeah, setting the arms system, yeah, before
you leave.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, I mean I have seen him saying where he
live streamed or filmed holding the pads for for a
young girl. I think it was, but yeah, I don't know.
And stuff I think is a k little slip up
from Aaron there.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Well, also the fact that he says a stipend. He's
trying to make it seem like this isn't a job exactly.
So you know, oh, you get paid for the waiver
that you do at the gym, so you have a
job at the gym. I just gonna stipe in for
helping the kids out, like you have a job, Trenus.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
And I don't really count it towards my regular budget.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
You know what I'm doing with the boxing training, I'm
giving it to steelte this week. So you know what
we're doing fifteen bucks away from tonight's goal.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Now, what is going on with the rules for the goal?
Because now he could just go, you know what, I'm
gonna put in some money, not really my money, boxing gym.
That's how he's trying to frame it. Is the boxing
gym is putting in.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Here's a counted torches. What do they say? Is personal
budget or is finance?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
What do they say there?

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah, so like all of this is on a spreadsheet somewhere,
and that's how this show is getting developed. He's just like, oh, guys,
you know what, I forgot to fill down and uh no,
we actually hit the goal yesterday. We're all good. My bad.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, Well, I think that spreadsheet is in that giant
dome of his. I don't think it's actually written down anyway.
But that's why it continues to change.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
Yeah, the boxing money is going towards tonight's goal. You
know why, because I want to have a good time.
I want to have a fun show. I don't want
to worry about making one hundred and fifteen bucks in
twenty five minutes.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
That's just fucking stressful. I don't want to do it,
so you guys, stream labs, PayPal, Venmo, super chats, rumble rants,
all that happy horseshit, knock out that last fifteen bucks.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
At this point, why even if you don't want to
stress about it.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Why didn't you cover the last fifteen.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Just whop it all out and say, hey, if you
wanna give you lies, you know, I've just put my
own money into it. So we're just gonna go on
the show now, beg you.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Know, unless he's actually smart enough to realize he's not
going to hit his goals, so he's trying to eke
out fifteen because he knows that's what he can get.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Just tell Joanny you're a little short this week.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
That's what's wild about Aaron and the goal. And obviously
it's the most fun part of the show. We all
enjoy it. But when he gets into overtime, he's doing
overtime on credit, and so he still needs to make
this money. He'll get it down to fifteen bucks or
ten bucks or even five bucks, and he's still come on, guys,
we gotta hit this goal. It's like ared, it's five bucks.
Call it a fucking watch. Why are you embarrassing yourself

(30:49):
over five or ten bucks right now.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
His need to get a win for the tow, as
we like to say, but his need for that is
it's unexplainable. Like, yeah, I think we would all be like, oh,
we got within ten bucks, Like three hundred and fifty
bucks for a day's work is still pretty fucking goodl sorry,
three hundred and forty bucks whatever. Yeah, it's so weird.
I think the criticism has kind of broken him in

(31:15):
that way, oh for sure, where he.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Doesn't let it go. Now he's not doing the streak anymore.
That was the reason why you had to get that
five bus, guys, we gotta keep the streak alive. And
then the rules changed. You were able to make up
the money after the show or the next show, and
then the streaks days alive. And now the vikings are
five and hour. He's got a new streak to focus on.
It's like, alright, all we're talking about is the vikings
are five and oh we don't have to talk about

(31:37):
how many days in a row. I've hit the goal.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
Great, and let's call it another win for the toe.
What did you say, I dude, uh huh. The weather fluctuations, yeah,
are fucking shitty for the flies.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yes, yeah, top three in the world behind came here
and Buba.

Speaker 7 (31:58):
Kill all the fly in Minnesota when it goes from
summer to winter, all the bugs.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
I have to try to run into everybody.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, sorry, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
I don't know. He's behind Bubba and Anthony, but those
are the three guys in the conversation rank how you
rank up after your parent's top three for sure?

Speaker 1 (32:17):
And as he's uh recently mentioned Anthony Kurmy as a
nobody now as well.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
It's amazing how that happens. He doesn't like him anymore,
so he socks okay exactly.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
And also he didn't know who you were before, Aaron.
It's not like that. He liked you. He liked the
look at your wife. He remembered her.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Uh huh.

Speaker 7 (32:40):
This is the time of year you get spiders, This
is the time of year you get box elder bugs.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
This is the time of year you get flies.

Speaker 7 (32:47):
Because everything's just going as fast as it can because
it's it's nice out during the day, but it gets
cold at night, and everything just tries to get into
your fucking house and every and what happens is since
we've been going up and down, up and down.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Well, it's fun, is I don't know how it works
in Minnesota, he said. In Minnesota. For me, the flaws
are just starting now because we're getting it's getting hot,
and I annoy the shit out of you in the
hottest part of the day in old day, and then
at that time they leave you the fucking line A man,
they might be a few please go. No, I'm gonna

(33:19):
just give this for it. I didn't realize how long
it was.

Speaker 7 (33:22):
Someone says it still says, one to fifteen. Oh there
you go, sorry, rumble. Fifteen bucks away from tonight. Yeah,
I I Tonight was just looking until Jack Brennan came
in and fucking saved our asses. Tonight was looking really slow.
It was just I didn't want to start off crabby
this week. So I'm taking the boxing and I'm throwing

(33:43):
it at the show because I don't really have that
earmarked for anything, so I'll throw it in there. And
we're now fifteen bucks away from knocking out. So do
me one one favor for doing that. Throw us knock
out that fifteen.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
I knew where that favor was going before you even
said it. What do you need?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Eric?

Speaker 4 (34:04):
What do you what do you want?

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Money? Okay, right, got it?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, exactly. Melon says it all the time whenever he's
got a brand new idea. I was you know, what
I was thinking would be fun for today's show is
if you guys gave me the goal right at the start.
That would be amazing.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, it's never like, you know what, can you as
me a favor? Watch my dog? I'm gonna go away
for the weekend because somebody come over and just dog
watch maybe both a lot for me. No, it's always
just give me money.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
You do me a favor and hit the like button.
It's it's quite it's quite funny. Aaron gets so little
likes on like he has like four thousand views or whatever.
Three thousand views is like seventy odd likes, And I'm like,
my three hundred odd views nearly gets seventy likes. Like
you're doing something wrong, Aaron.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
We do miss the thumb sound button.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Don't we be nice to see what it would be
nice to see.

Speaker 7 (34:56):
While we're doing these next couple of stories, and let's
call it all right, let's go ahead and do this one.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
Uh, liberal girls are using fake program.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
To say, let's talk about his broadcasting real quick, let's
go ahead and do this. One was his transition from
begging into whatever news story he's going to deal.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
He loves to talk about how he's prepped. He's always
so prepped, he says out.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Loud, his thought process. Yeah, for someone like me, I
look over my thing. Holy shit, this is a crazy story.
You guys have probably right about. I have some details
I want to bring to you. That's how you start
the thing you're gonna do it, give people excited about it,
show that you're interested. All right, let's start with this
thing over here. Then okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Well, and the other thing is he was like bitching
about Johnny not like being into the Pete Rose stuff
that he was covering or not knowing enough about it.
But like they don't talk anytime outside of the show, right,
and like, for example, Robbie wasn't here last week, but
had Robbie been on the show, Robbie, what message did
I send you? Because Robbie's not a Metallica fan. We're

(36:07):
going to be talking Metallica. And I sent Robbie a
message and I said, hey, man, I know you don't
like Metallica, but can you can you bring something and
having some thoughts and opinions on Metallica, Maybe yeah, researched
a little bit and maybe you know, had come in
with some thoughts. Aaron doesn't do that. He doesn't message
Johnny and say, hey, this is what we're talking about tomorrow,
you know, blah blah blah. Maybe he look into it

(36:28):
like it's just yep, let's just show up and see
what happened.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
I had to explain that to Reata Vido. I'm not
an NBA fan. I don't follow or basketball, and I
was doing ras show and he immediately started going into
these multiple NBA stories. I go, Rick, could you just
give me your heads up next time before the show.
I'll do my research. I could doctor about this shit.
I just don't follow that league at up.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah it's a great point. So yeah, this is building up.
I just wanted to show this one last moment between
Aaron and Matt and more things thought. These are happening
with both of these guys.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
Liberal girls are using fake profiles on dating apps. Two
catfish men Intovo, could you do me a favor? Could
you set your phone down? My phone because like it's
vibrating and I can feel it in the table, shouldn't.
It's driving me nuts because it makes me think it's mine.
And that's where like notifications come in for like contributions, right,
And I'm just sitting here like distracting myself from the show.

(37:25):
So sorry about that Liberal girls using fake prob.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, that that's the end of that one. I just yeah,
he's getting snockier and snokier, and I know he loves Matt.
Matt is the most useless thing. I mean, I won't
say that. There's plenty of useless things sitting on podcasts.
We got Josh right here, but no, Yeah, but Matt
is useless. He's just there to sit there and go yep.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
You know what that was that we.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Just we just witnessed was the Pavlovs dog thing where
all of a sudden, ringing the bell and they start salivating.
So to Aaron, that buzz on the table means money's
coming in. And then when it wasn't money coming in,
it was like he was losing money, you know what
I mean, like palos dollars, just like, oh no, I'm
hungry and now I want food. You didn't have food

(38:12):
a second ago. You heard a bell and now you're person,
you don't have food. It's the same thing that's happening
to Aaron.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
And Matt was like the funneled. He was like, I
don't know. My phone didn't vibrate. I did nothing happened.
I wonder. I wonder if Aaron's bouncing knee under the table,
maybe that's bumped the table and made it. I don't know,
but yeah, he was. He was none too pleased with
Matt there.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Trying to start a rally for the goal guy.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
The dynamic there was interesting, wasn't it, Because you could
tell it's stewing in the back of his head. He's gone, yeah,
so liberal girls, what they're doing is matter. You can
tear the fucking phone off.

Speaker 7 (38:54):
Ar uh.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Before we move on, Carl, there was just one other
person I wanted to bring up. Actually, I'll just I've
been working on an impression. There's a bit of a
visual tour. But let's see if you can figure out
who I am impersonating here. You're a Lewson.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Is it Rob Saal doing Shuli or is it Rob
sal doing me? Or is it robstal doing after the
Cubia or.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I think it was just Rob Saal. But you're right,
they are all. If you can impersonate Rob Soul, you
can do all of Rob Saul's impersonations because it is
the same voice for everyone.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Why wouldn't Rab Sal just open it the saurus just
figure out another word to use to call out the
people he doesn't like.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yes, well, I happen to catch something today and it
just intrigued me because I was like, I did already
have a clip ready to go, and I thought, yeah,
this gives us a nice reason to talk about, say
Rob saw versus Vince the Lawyer. Now, first of all,
I just want to for context, Carl, I just want

(40:02):
to play a clip of Robsall talking about Jenny Jingles,
the lovely Jenny Jingles, one of the one of the
sweetest women in the world.

Speaker 9 (40:13):
I keep talking about me and what type of women
I'll get while you pretend to be in love with this.
I don't have Jenny Jingles. What a disgusting, horrific, rotting
looking corpse cunt of a WAF you have.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Now that's pretty. I mean, I've gotta be honest, Carl
about that one. If a funny person said that, you'd
probably laugh, like, what a horrific you know? Yes, but
like there is serious anger and pain frustration is yeah,
he reallys it. So I just wanted to play that

(40:53):
just to give a little bit of context for what
is that.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
I have a weird question for you, Ozzie and listen.
This is not something ideal in so I don't know
the answer to this.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Is there anywhere in YouTube's terms of service that says
you can't harass someone for their physical appearance in a
grotesque matter like that? Okay, I'm just curious if that's
going to get Judd's channel taken down to that, that's all.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, No, that is Vince, a lawyer who comes up
in this next part, has pointed out many times he
refers to it as the the Heburger rule.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
I believe you, right, Yeah, because it talks about making
fun of someone's crooked teeth. Yes, that's the example given
in the YouTube's terms of service. It maybe.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
So.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah, So Vince Lloyd has been having a bit of fun.
And look, I know you don't find Vince Lawyer funny
at all, Carl and not overly impressed with him. But
there's certain things when Vince Laya does make me laugh,
and and it's stuff like this to get this out
of roumsall. I'm pretty impressed with Vince Lawyer.

Speaker 9 (41:56):
Yeah, you can't be going on and act that, you know,
that's like my mother that and you're going on saying
I'm trying to hook up with my aunt. I mean,
that's just some despicable ship to say, Vince.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
But go ahead.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
I guess you're a lawyer.

Speaker 9 (42:12):
You'll find a loophole around it. But listen, I have
my lawyers too. I'll be more than happy do a
cease and desist if you want to make up alleged tales.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Make up alleged titles. Switch. I don't know that that
sense makes sense, but you're onto something there. What is
that poky peak? There's a little bit of poky peak
when he starts in there.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
He claims that he's a broadcaster and he's good at this.
He can't string together more than three words in a
row without going dud.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
He makes me feel a lot better about my arms.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
And I had a public speaking class where a teacher
made me paranoid about that. But it's one of those
things with like there's this uh oh wow, I just
did it. Anyway, there's a judge that will that I've
heard in Albany that will manage to put tow us

(43:12):
in one sentence without it being like spam. It's remarkable.
I know that's off topic, but it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
I just wish you would listen back to himself and
try to correct it. I know that when I first
started podcasting, I had a lot of crutches and weird things.
I'd go back and listen and go up, I gotta
stop doing that, or people would tell me about them
that pronounce words incorrectly and things like that. So I
tried to clean that up and fix it. He's terrible
at this, but I that's not the point. I see.
The point of this clip is that he goes off
and says the most ridiculous, heinous shit about my wife,

(43:43):
and then Vince the lawyer talks about him with his
aunt or his dog or something like that. He's like, Eh,
you can't say that I've ben it. Sue you. Yeah,
I've it, sue you.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
And isn't that always the best way to react to
something like that and make it go away is saying yes,
I'm gonna assue you, you know, rather than just let
it roll off your back. And he's terrible.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
He's the worst.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yes, yeah, he might be. He might be the most
gross person. And we'll get into that discussion about starting
John and aaronim Halt shortly, but yeah, Rob Soul just
might be the most gross person that's popped up in
the double verse. Like he's applauding the death or the
miscarriage or whatever it was with his ex wife and

(44:27):
accusing the guy of being a pedophile. And if he
is a pedophile, you're not doing anything to protect your daughter,
Like it's you know what I mean, Like he's either
calling someone a pedophile that's not or just letting a
pedophile live around his daughter.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
The most no, No, the most egregious thing that he's
done is agree with everything subdering giant sas. That's the
most effensive thing that Robsal does. He gets out there.
I put a video out this morning on our channel.
It's on in our latest episode who are These Podcasts? Where?
Who are these Dark Arms? Where you want to go?
Where we talk about how Clee deb We're starting to
push back now on John. He's starting to challenge him

(45:01):
a little bit, and it's fun to watch that. I
like it when even Brian Caram and Richard o' jetto
I don't give a funk about you. Of those guys,
we're pushing back on John for his behavior during Hurricane Milton.
I'm like, this is what John needs. He needs a
real friend or someone to go No, John, you're wrong
about this. You're doing it wrong. You're doing everything wrong.

(45:22):
Rob Sauce says, they're just like, yeah, they're not losers.
We're killing it right. Hey, why don't you come out
of my shallow you're half in the bag. This is great.
I can't even do a Rob song impression. I can't
say I'm that much.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
I can't even do it in my in my worst
I could probably do a uh, I just didn't.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
I have a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I do a lot of When I listened back, I
don't even realize.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Play that clip again, go back and play the beginning
of that clip again. He was talking about, Yeah, this
is insane. This is not how people talk. This is
his first language. He's not like from Spain.

Speaker 9 (45:58):
It can't be going on and satanist fact that you know,
it's like my mother that and you're going on saying
I'm trying to hook up with my aunt.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
I mean, that's just some despicable U ship to say.

Speaker 9 (46:10):
Vince, but go ahead. I guess you're a lawyer. You'll
find a loophole around it. But I listen, I have
my lawyers too. I'll be more than happy to do
a cease and desist.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
And it's not just the us make up alleged, there's
tons of us. But also you know, I mean, listen,
these are all crutch words to get your brain to
catch up with what the fuck you're trying to say.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Also, he doesn't just say uh, it's like a yeah,
even worse than your regular elongated yeah. There we go.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
I know that I was just about to do. I
knew that I was about to just a big because
I definitely do that on trends, and so I pause
and stopped myself. So that was a little bit of
fun with Rob Saul. I just thought that was interesting.
It is, it's going to ruin me now.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
God get better, got better at this?

Speaker 3 (47:16):
We should?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
We should. Indeed, I thought that would be fun given
that all the ship he's talked about your wife. I
wasn't sure if you'd caught that where that's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
That's very funny. You see that about me? Must there
must be some truth to that or us I would
be so fan.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yes, now, Carl, you have brought some clips along. I
requested a little while ago when I invited you on
the show, I said, how about you come on and
do a little segment roasting us to your w A
TP style on us. I know you've done it to
a few people's face now, I remember you did it
to Eric Nagel and Brian Johnson. Was there another one?

(47:56):
I thought there's been a couple. Did you do another
one to someone's face? D a Vito right to me, Yeah,
he did it to his face, and you've talked about
how much fun it is, and I was like, well,
you know, we can all handle criticism and jokes at
our expense, so why not do it to us, have
a have another round at it. So what have you
brought for us?

Speaker 4 (48:14):
All right, well, if you want to pop up, I'm
presenting over here on my end. So you guys did
an episode.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
In charge of that for me.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Sure, your most recent episode, you had my friend Kaylee on.
We have Jay Scoop and Josh Is with us, of course,
and you guys are talking Metallica. But first you're doing
what we just did on this show. You're playing some
clips of steel Toe and this is the second clip

(48:45):
that you had prepared, Ausy guy, the second clip. I
don't know any clips there were. This was number two
and you didn't know how to set it.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Up, I'm sure.

Speaker 6 (48:53):
But so that was very funny on the Bubba show.
Something that wasn't funny today. And I got to thank
somebody on Twitter for getting me that the dirt on this.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
I'm all right, so I completely forgot what the whole
this gets to something that I want to talk about.
But there is some more to it. So this is
where we get to the gun sponsorship.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
So okay, so you just needed a reminder in there,
and then you can set up the clip properly and
want to like write that down in your notes.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah, that's a good point. Good point.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Yeah, listen, it happens to me. I have eighty clips
that I play on a show something, yes, and every
now and again I'll get a little frezzled, but I
haven't in my notes. I can refer to them and
figure it out.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
I think I only had two clips for the show total, right,
So it.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
Didn't make a lot of sense. But you're operating a
whole different time zone. I'm sure, it's difficult. So then
you start bragging about how you don't have to talk
about what you do with your kids and how you
spend time with your kids, making fun of Aaron for
doing just that. But as you're explaining you don't do that,
you do just that.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Yeah, that's why I'm kind of rubbing it in his face.
So like I literally was barely apart from my kids
for the last ten days, like spend the entire time
with them. You know, that is like that was so
much fun. It was It was such a great vacation,
like the kids experiencing new things, seeing these like thousands
of year old aboriginal art and shit. Enjoying that with

(50:21):
your kids is phenomenal. This guy, it's got to be
a presentation for the internet. You know, the Internet has
to know that I'm hanging out with my kids as
opposed to just hang out with your kids.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Didn't you just explain that.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yes I did. Yeah, yeah, but I also did set
it up with That's why I'm rubbing it in his face.
But you know, I also am a believer in like, yeah,
don't be a hypocrite. So no, that's a good point.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Just want to make case I spent the last days
of my kids, and then we did this, and then
we start there, and then they said I was the
best dare that we faved. Maybe they've got that far.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
They definitely did.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Yeah, yeah, I'll give that to you. But Dean has
been feeling it lately. He's the star of the internet
ever since he won Hughesy Show and the first person
to confront Aaron with some of these questions that we
have about him, and so he is declaring that he's
basically the only thing anyone's talking about in the world
of steeltell.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
The only thing anybody has talked about with Aaron in
the last few months is his confrontation with me. He
someone pushed back at him, like people talked about that
they weren't suddenly they weren't talking about the Nick Crickata
stuff and the and the goal, and that they were
talking about how we had this back and forth and
no point in his mind did it click to be like, hey,

(51:43):
maybe I should have someone that I could go back
and forth with on a show rather than just a
just a lapdog to agree with me, you know what
I mean? Like none of that ever, He just he
thinks he's the Anthony Kumia and he doesn't realize he's
the opie and he needs to And Anthony came out.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Here's the part you're not understanding in this And I
agree that is the most important thing that's happened to Aaron,
your conversation with him. I still applauded. I love the
interview you did with him. We found out a lot
of things that he's a compulsive wire and it's great,
but he hated that. He doesn't want to be excited.
There's no way he'd be like I should have this
dead guy at my show every Friday. We can ash
it out. He hated that so much. Here's tickets, ball

(52:28):
and go home. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Well, and I certainly not suggesting that he should like
call me and like we should team up. All I
was saying is is maybe you would think we shouldn't
just have a grants all the time, like maybe someone
I should allow people to push back, like in his
own way, you know what I mean, still control it
the way he needs to control it, but maybe have
a little back back and forth on a show rather.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Than Yeah, would it be needs if Johnny Crutches watched
I don't know, six hours of n and then what
is showing what Holy shit, dude, I didn't realize this
was going out of that was going on. I agree
that would be a more entertaining product, and Aaron will
never ever do that, of course.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
But I don't appreciate you cutting out the pot beforehand
where I said, other than the goal and the rikaita stuff, that,
of course is what's been talked about.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
Now, that's not when I heard. I listened to this
very closely. I think you were actually pumping yourself up.
You're like, I'm the kick of podcasting now, and everyone
knows that. I read the internet. That's what everyone's saying
on the internet. I was like, all right, gom down there, deeed.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
There's been a few people that have said it, but
it's fine.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
I've seen a couple of posts.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yea.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
So now they're talking about the fact that Aaron just
does podcasting to make money. He's not passionate about it.
He doesn't really care about the product. He just sits down.
If he can make us three hundred and fifty bucks
in the first ten minutes and sign off, that would
be ideal for him. And so now we talk about Lucy,
my friend Kayley here and how she's actually passionate about it.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
I can't imagine trying to be dependent on it.

Speaker 10 (53:57):
I would want it to be a passion and then
if I can make something off of it, cool. Uh.
And you can definitely see that with our young lady here,
that she has a passion behind what she does, not
just trying to chase money.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
She's Jewish? Did you not know that, scoop? Are you
out of the loop on this? You really think that
she's in it because she's passionate about something. She doesn't
just want the buddy buddy, Buddy, budy buddy.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
He is in Ukraine.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Yeah he doesn't understand.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, n.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
He s big in a scoop. I'm glad he's out
here because this next clip right here, he starts bragging
about his singing career as if he's Aretha Franklin and
we know about him or something. This is insane, right
or we're just like, we don't know who you are
what you say, buddy.

Speaker 10 (54:44):
So, as most people know, I do singing, but my
background from when I was growing up was totally not
what I ended up singing, you know, like it was.
It was on the R and B.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Side and rap and all this, and then behind the
music with Jay Scoop.

Speaker 10 (55:02):
Rung and then and then uh finally later on when
I started singing, you know, it was like hard rock metal.
You know, I'm kind of drifting along those lines. And anyways,
the one time I was ever kicked out.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
I could see all these guy's eyes closing. He is
ready to take a nap during this rads.

Speaker 10 (55:22):
Kind of drifting along those lines. And anyways, the one
time I was ever kicked out of a band, it
was because it was something I said about Metallica.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Wow, and that was a long ways to go to
be like and the one time we got kicked out
of a band, Guys, I played in every style of band,
I sing every style of music. I'm sure you know,
I'm sure you have my whole discography. But let me
just say the one time I was just okay.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, well I was. I did like what he said.
Most people know what, right? I was confused by that.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Yeah all right, so ouzsie guy, you confessed to something
I didn't know people like you existed in this world
across We're talking a Metallica on this episode, and I
was shocked by this.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Well, I've got the difference. So I'm a millennial. I
was born in nineteen eighty three, So in nineteen ninety
six when Metallica released Load, I was thirteen years of
age and my brother's three years older. He bought Load
and then he was playing it, and I just I
never forget the song King Nothing. The song King Nothing

(56:28):
grabbed me. I just I don't know. I liked that guitar.
I liked the hook of the chorus, where's your crown?
King Nothing like it? Just yeah, I don't know it was.
It just stood out to me. And then I just
started listening Until It Sleeps just before it, Here of
the Day was after it, and yeah, before I knew it,
I listened to the whole album and I was like,
I like this band.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
Can anyone tapad the embarrassing story? Don't even have a
more embarrassing story than getting hooked on Metallica from King Nothing.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
I was thirteen, car We'll give me a break.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
Well, and lucky for you, Scoop, I was just coofing
on a second. Ago is actually a great guy and
a great friend because he decides to save you from
that embarrassment with this, I would.

Speaker 10 (57:10):
Probably have to go with the one that would piss
everybody off. And I mentioned it before, but not a
single song, but the Same Anger album, because everybody said
it changed it and it sounds like and I was like, yeah,
but it sounds raw and and you know what, like
I appreciate it, and especially as a singer, like you're
always trying to not make you last thing sound like

(57:31):
the next thing. And and I was like, you know what,
I appreciate that that they went that route. So you know,
it was like fucking around, Let's see what see what
this does.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Scoop would have to die on that hill?

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Same Anger.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Sorry, well he couldn't even convince us that he actually
likes that album. He couldn't go with a single song
that's good on that album. Like he's like, there's no
songs out of that are good, but it's different. Yeah,
well yeah it's different. I'll give you that.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
It doesn't make it good.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
And and this talk about what if Cliff Burton had
never died and what would happen with Metallica? And the
guy said something here that's nuts.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Do you guys are in wonder what Metallica would be
if Cliff never died? And I love Jason, I'm a
huge Jason Newstead fan. Like I just thought he was
like he just he's so metal, you know what I mean,
Like he was the guy on stage representing metal.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
But nobody loves Jason new said even he was shocked
he got that job. When they heard it were just like,
what me, the real bass players of audition for this band,
what do you mean me?

Speaker 8 (58:37):
They didn't even allow that base to really come through
on Injustice for All that was his first fucking.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Mattillica admitted, I didn't stirred. I heard them say they
mix him right off that album.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
James James didn't want that ship.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Yeah, yeah, and all these guys gone. I mean, everyone
loves Jason news said, of course, like no one missed.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
I didn't say everyone, I said myself, and I'm not
even saying that. Of course, I wish Cliff never died,
of course, but no, I walked to the guy. You know,
he he was on the stage giving it everything every night.
And that's all you can ask of the guy. You know,
as long as he plays Cliff's face rifts, well I'm
happy with him, all right.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
So then Scoop is part of this conversation. He's there
throughout this conversation and is wildly confused about what we're
talking about the fact that Metallica's first bass player died
in an accident.

Speaker 10 (59:28):
I have a member of the band die like in
some auto accident, like really really early, and it was.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
It was Cliff in the bus accident.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
That's the guy I've been talking about for Oh.

Speaker 10 (59:40):
I thought he said he had been in there twenty
years or something.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Rob has been in their twenties. Cliff Cliff thought in
ninety six, so like it was like five years into
the band and okay.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Keep up. I couldn't believe he was in the conversation.
But oh, you don't even know what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Okay, Well, as soon as you said that he's been
in this whole conversation, I know what this is.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
And yeah, that was wild. Even you guys are like, yeah, yeah,
the gay we're talking about for the last minutes, right, Yeah,
that's that's the gay we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
I just have one more clip on here, and it's
kind of a critique that's be something on personal thoughts
about Metallica and some of the projects that they've done.
But I'll let you know what my thoughts are after
you hear.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
This, you know, link it up with the San Francisco
Symphony to just take it to another level of just
like how beautifully written this music is, and like, I
think a lot of people miss that and the fact
it's metal, so they don't think of like how actually
beautifully structured it is. And and that's what a lot
of them, a lot of them in the San Francisco

(01:00:48):
Symphony talked about. It was like this music is so symphonic,
and James would be like, yeah, I don't know, I
just put my fingers here, and yeah, it is this brilliant.
So they had like creative that they created this amazing music.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
It's actually terrible. That's why they haven't got back and
done it again now. During the parts, during the clean
parts in Metallica songs with the symphony orchestra, it does work.
There is something to that. As soon as it gets heavy,
it sounds like I'm standing in a whole way and
there's a symphony orchestra rehearsing over here in Metallica rehearsing
over here, and I'm hearing the blend of both things,

(01:01:23):
like none of it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Fitting together at all. It sounds like shit, No, that's
fair enough. And look, I'm no musician or really understand music.
It was for me, like you know, and that was
I was sort of sort of recounting the stories that
i'd heard because I've watched documentaries on it and stuff.
But yeah, for me and my symbolton music brain, all
that stuff sounded beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
This is my old personal opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Yeah, no, I understand, No, I guess yeah, yeah, it's
it's that's the thing about music. It's so subjective. And yeah,
I wasn't sure your thoughts on Metallic. I mean, what
are your thoughts on Metallica? Overall?

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
I like the early stuff. I guess I'm pretty boring
about Metallica. When I was when the Black Album came out,
that's when I was buying a lot of music and
I was listening to I was a skateboarders, I was
listening to a lot of punk rock, and of course
gruns just started around then, so I had the Nirvana
and Pearl Gym and Green Day and Weezer and all
that kind of stuff. And I did like the Black

(01:02:19):
Elm a lot and a lot of great songs on it.
I liked the stuff they did before that. Master Puppets
is my favorite. But yeah, I kind of like with
a lot of people stopped paying attention to Metallica by
the mid nineties and beyond never really did it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Yeah that's fine. No, I look, all my favorite stuff
is from the eighties.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
And also, I have to tell you, guys, so I
watched the entire episode. I have ten clips. I mean,
you guys do a good show. I wish there was
more I could rag on. Of course Robbie wasn't there,
so I would that would help me out a lot. Yeah,
I should have picked an episode of the Robbie. That's
my bad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
No, No, I appreciate that, Colin. Yeah, I've certainly someone
like when I first aort of you covering me, you
used to do those supercuts of people's crutch words and
all that, and that was my first thought back when
I started listening to your show. It was like, if
he listened to me, he would have a supercut of
arms likes, you know. And I try and work on it,

(01:03:14):
but especially when you're only doing one show a week,
you know, you do need that repetition. And yeah, I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
Once a week is enough of you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
That's fine. Yeah, let's how much you're right for time,
makl or Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. I wanted to get
into Yeah, let's get into W A T. P And
the dabble verse. And of course we mentioned the mailbox
at the start of the show. And yeah, we're not

(01:03:46):
going to play the video, of course, because it does
actually show you Florida at home. But yeah, I don't stuttering, Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
I mean they Uncle Ricolas. They brought out my house
like it's just a house, you know what I mean, Like,
I don't know how that could hurt me, just looking.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
At a house in Florida, but whatever, But yeah, I
mean just him, yeah, pretty much just calling you a
pussy and yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
That was weird. Yeah, you kept calling my house a
shithole and then calling me a pussy play. I was like,
I'm confused, and what's going on? What did I do?

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Yeah, but you did lose your mouthbox. But yeah, obviously
you've seen the clip, You've seen what he did. What
are your thoughts on what he did there?

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
It's so bizarre to me that he feels the need
to drive by my house and turn that into his segment.
He actually was doing a podcast for the McDonald's parking lot,
said guys, I'll be back in a little bit. I'm
gonna go check on Carl's house. Drove to my house,
filmed all this footage of him calling me a pussy
and looking at the house and whatever, calling it a
shithole over and over again. Then he goes back to McDonald's,

(01:04:46):
starts up another stream and plays the video that he
just took and laughs at himself calling me a pussy
on the show. That's such bizarre behavior. People have asked
me if I've ever been by John's house, because we
do live close to each other. No, I don't care
what his house looks like from the outside or the well,
the inside. I'd be interested, but I don't give a
shit about going and visiting the guy's house. I think

(01:05:08):
it's weird that he wants to visit my house. I
am assuming his boss put him up to it, because
his boss was texting me non stop this week after
me all these questions about my house, so he seems
to be much more obsessed with it. But John taking
orders like a good important I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Guess, well, speaking of his boss, Yeah, I've got to
I've got to bring up Cape Coral because if you're
going to cite Vince the lawyer. You're obviously already on
flimsy ground, because you know, Vince does some creative editing,
et cetera when he presents things. But how much truth
is there to the ship trenches, Carl? How bad are they?

(01:05:47):
I know you talked about how your water was very
stinky when you first got there and you had to
get the special What is it like a filtration plan
to reverse? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so yeah, what is the
deal then, Vince likes to pay Cape Caral? Is this
very yeah? This shit? These ship trenches and are poorly

(01:06:07):
thrown together area. What's the deal with Cape Caral?

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
So the canal that runs freshwater canal that runs back
behind our house. I've seen tons of turtles, tons of fish,
otters are in there, alligators, iguanas, some of the coolest
shit you've ever seen. All lives in what he refers
to as shit water, But it's not. It's freshwater, and

(01:06:31):
there's a ton of animal life and it's a very
cool place to just zone out. And I sip in
my pool and I stare out of the canal and
watch alligators go by, and it's a blast. Here's the
deal with with Vince the lawyer. I once you figure
this out, everything makes sense. Vince's form of humor is

(01:06:53):
saying the opposite of the truth and pretending that's the truth.
So when he says things like, oh, well, Carl's wife's
actually lovely. I think she's very attractive, that's part of
Vince the lawyer. And John still hasn't picked up on
this yet, and so Vince says things that he doesn't
believe at all that are obviously the opposite of the truth,
and John goes, I don't know why he's saying that

(01:07:14):
he's wrong about this. Like, John, you still don't realize
what his troll is. It's very simple to the code,
that's all it is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Yeah, Vince likes to fuck with retarded people.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
He says, he loves to say Bob Levy's smart, and
that infuriates John. Well, Bob Levy's really smart.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
No he's not.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
No is that's a cat. That's the joke, John, you've retired.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
No, indeed, another thing And this one kind of bugged me.
But I want to go over the shilly network because
a lot of people, oh not a lot, but occasionally
you get like a super chat to a show or
whatever where they say, will you disavow the Sandusky Network?

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
And yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
What I find, I guess a bit annoying about that
is how far that Vince and John and Kevin Brennan
go by calling him all pedophiles. But on this show
a couple of months back, I sort of played a
couple of clips of Shurey, and I really feel like
the Shully Network handled that situation really poorly. And that

(01:08:16):
kind of gets swept under the rug because of the
way those guys overreacted and wanted to make it this
bigger thing. But sort of to spend twelve months lying
about a guy that you have had no contact with
and trying to protect him and then not sort of saying, oh, yeah,
look sorry guys that we were lying to you. We
didn't realize what was going on. Like it just it
all came across really poorly. I don't know, Like, what

(01:08:39):
are your thoughts on how they handled the situation forgetting
everyone else's criticism, just how you felt they handled the situation.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Yeah, I think I can't speak for surely. I tied
to him a bit yesterday. He wanted me to come
on the show, I said, but I was at the
Buffalo Zebra scheme, but I think that Suley would tell
you he would do things differently handled it. Now, you
said something interesting in the way that you presented that question.
You said that he was spending year protecting So do

(01:09:06):
you think that July knew of the church?

Speaker 7 (01:09:09):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
No, no, no no. So his own explanation, he said
they were protecting Aso from muttering Jay and that and
their research because he was going through a divorce, right,
that was what That's what they were told, So they
were protecting him from that scrutiny. I'm not saying they
were covering up. I don't believe they knew, because why
would you lie for twelve months?

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
It makes it makes zero sense. And also it makes
zero sense that Chulie would try to cover up something
like that. How would that help him in any single way?
It's just and then it gets to the point where
now you're suttering John or Kevin Brandy like oh because
he's as a paddle. You're like, okay, so you're just
angry and just want to say the worst thing possible.
But yeah, I do think they handled it poorly, especially

(01:09:51):
the way that Juley, you know, the very heartfelt, teary
eyed and I think he was feeling all those fields.
I don't think that that was acting by any means.
He he was upset. I mean, this is a close
friend of his for a long time, that he found
out this horrific shit about I don't think that he
needed to go on the internet and feel those feels. Yeah,
and especially because by the next day they're joking about it.
It's like, Okay, I mean, maybe we should have made

(01:10:13):
more fun of this. It's a very serious thing and
it's horrific. I mean, I've said it. I've had Eso
in my house. He was sitting right here behind me
on the coutume we recording the show is Shulely years ago.
We went out to dinner afterwards, and it's fucking gross
when you find out there's creeps like that that you've
hung around with. They don't announce it, you don't know it. Obviously,
they keep that shit as hidden as they can. But

(01:10:37):
it's a horrific thing. I didn't know Eso very well.
Sly spent hours with him playing video games and whatever else,
so I understand why he was upset. But the tierry
heart felt and then donate money on our behalf or
whatever thing was weird. I wouldn't have handled it that way.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
No, I agree. Blonde Milk said it like it feels
like anytime there's some sort of controversy for someone, they
have to do this very serious, low tone explanation and
apology or whatever it may happen.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Yeah, it makes it makes it seem like you're guilty.
Like I think of getting back to the perils with
politicians like Anthony Wiener has to come out and do
this thing with his wife next to him, and oh gosh,
you know, I'll it'll never happen again, and I don't
know what I was thinking, blah blah blah, and then
he's like back then he gets busted again, and you're
just like, Okay, I mean, this is not heartfelt. As
soon as you're trying to be heartfelt, we're not buying it.

(01:11:34):
So don't even bother.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Yes, indeed, I say, some of the other people that
were caught up in the hurricane, I know you've sort
of stopped paying attention to Chad Zoomark basically because he
just basically lies to get attention. Was pretty much your summation,
I think. But if you caught up with any of
his hurricane streams, and what he's been doing this week.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Yeah, he was an emotional bitch. We were talking about
this a little bit. I think on this little piggy
where Ched Zumac is a woman, Ched is constantly feeling
his emotions and acting on them. You should act like
a man. I believe was a famous movie quote that
he should look into because when he was moving his

(01:12:20):
car to the third floor and he's walking back and
then he loses his power and he goes outside and
he's like, I hate Florida. This shit sucks. We always
get these storms. I'm moving out of here. I don't
want to deal with this anymore. You know, most of
the people had left Tampa. He's sticking around through it.
And then the storm hits. It is not as bad

(01:12:42):
as was predicted. Everything, every you know, thing that he
has going on survives. He gets his power back, and
he's immediately like, fuck you, of course I'm gonna stay here.
I'm not scared of the storm. I'm gonna battle it.
I'm the best. And just like you know, yesterday you
were gonna leave Florida and today you're taking a victory
lap over this. Yeah, what's what's up with that? That's

(01:13:03):
not how men behave.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
I love the stuttering Johnathan. Yeah, I'm sure it was
on your show where Yeah, because I think someone even
said stolen vala where stuttering John said. Army major, you know,
being in the army and all that, how your time
can come to an end at any times.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
It's like, what do you He goes, He goes, I'm
gonna go down with the ship, talking about his house.
That's why he didn't leave. He goes, Richardo Jetta, you're
in the army. You know what this is like, going
down with your ship. It's like, oh no, no, no, no.
In the army, they abandoned all of the ships in
Afghana said, they left all of that ship to try
to get out of there. It's about getting the people out.

(01:13:44):
Going down with the ship is when you have a
whole crew and you're battling to the end. Very different
thing than just getting drunk with the cats in your
house during a storm.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
And his friends came over and started cleaning his house,
which is I couldn't I couldn't let myself, I let
anyone in my house, Like when I was single and
living alone. Yeah, I had a messy house. You know,
it was just me. I wasn't actually there all that often.
I was working so much. But if it got a
little bit messy, and like, there's no way I'm bringing
anybody in this house until I clean it up, you know,

(01:14:16):
like this is just for me.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
Was That's what was funny when he was showing my
house and calling it a shithole over and over again.
My house is very clean. I pay for cleaners to
come in and clean it. It's all furnished. It's bigger
than his house. And the fact that he said there
calls it a shittle You had friends over who got
out a map when they saw the state of the
floor of your house. I can't even imagine that. When

(01:14:38):
he said that, they were getting out brooms and mops.
It was like, this place is disgusting. I've never been
to someone's house and be like, I gotta get a
map out or us I'm leaving.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
This reminds me of someone in high school now, same deal,
same Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
This takes me back, and I'm someone I kind of
think the comedic peak of stuttering John for me, with
your coverage and all that was around twenty twenty one.
That was just a cranking year of just such funny comments.
He was sorry, such funny episodes. He was doing beer
on the balcony every week. And I love a stuttering

(01:15:14):
John interview. That's the funniest stuff that there is when
he interviews. But that story of the people coming in
and mopping reminded me of when the electrician or the
technician came around to look at his oven or his
dishwasher and it's stunk like catshit and there's kitty litter
on the kitchen floor and I know it was an electrician. Yeah,

(01:15:34):
sometimes you have to lie down on people's kitchen floors
to try and get to the spot you need to
get to to fix something. So I could totally understand
walking into a house like that and going fuck this,
I'm not doing this job. Fills that story like he's
the one that told that story, not the angry technician.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
It's incredible to me that the things that he leaks sometimes.
The other story about his son because the bud was
gross and covered in cat hairs of the sun wanted
to go his own bad. It's like, Joan, why are
you telling us this stuff? This is not normal. It's
not normal to have someone come over to look at
your obit and not sweep up the floor first and
wipe down the countertops, Like, just how are you not

(01:16:14):
understanding to just be an adult? It's crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
And when he got the oven removed that the landlord
had a bit of a dignity. If I think we
heard that, and it's right, that's right. I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
I didn't bother clean because I knew you guys were
just gonna take it out. She's like, yeah, but you
could have.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
I think, well, I think you said you could have
at least wipe down the outside everything in his.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
House is discussing he's living in a new house, he's
living in his mom's house, his mom owns it. It's
it's a new house, and he's just destroying it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
M It's insane. So I want to yell close out,
and then if you've got to be a time, we'll
talk a little bit of a quick little bit of
baseball playoffs and some NFL. But my last closing thing,
this has been brought up a few times and I
think it's an interesting discussion. Uh, the Aron m Holt
versus stuttering John who's the shittier person? Now, I'll quickly say,

(01:17:06):
for me, I think stuttering John. The reason he's bumbled
his way through life is because he is such a buffoon.
He is such a moron that people kind of look
at him and go, oh, he's harmless. He's kind of
charming in his own way because of his buffoonery, and
you know, like he's a shitty person, but he's also
so lazy and all that that he's not really gonna
harm you. I think Aaron m Holt is just smart

(01:17:29):
enough to be dangerous. What's your thoughts on that one, Carl.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Well, only because we know so much about these guys'
personal lives. I think that when you're judging someone on
their character, that's probably the place to go. And John
has ruined every friendship he's ever had. And from everything,
it appears that his family, meaning his wife and his

(01:17:55):
kids want nothing to do with him. They don't seem
to be a part of his life and anything, and
especially he talks about texting them or calling them. Well,
that was another crazy thing he did when he messaged
his kids that if he doesn't make it through the storm,
that Grandma will take care of it and you'll get
all his stuff or something like that. It's like, dude,
tell me you don't get a touch from your kids,

(01:18:15):
and they'll tell me you don't get a touch from
your kids. If you've got to throw that out there
just to try to get a response, dad might die. Okay, Dad,
we told you to leave. So that's on you. Tommy,
thanks for making us worry about you selfish prick. But
Aaron has actually ruined families, whereas John's family got rid
of him and is thriving. I worry about what Erin

(01:18:38):
has done to the First family because Ashley is like,
can you please stop talking about me? Wouldn't stop, had
a file. The HRORO had to then take him to
court over it again to explain, hey, you're violating the
HRO Like he's fucking with people's families in a way

(01:18:58):
that might be more evil and sinister to your point.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Yeah, yeah, the the immediately, like I brought up last
week about the spousal privileged thing like that, there was
no need for him to turn on April like that
is just vindictive. Yep, to do that, There's nothing more
that can be said, like it is just vindictive.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Do you remember so early on when he started leaking
all this information to make April look terrible and April
sent him a note that said, congratulations you won the
divorce like that was That's how Aaron thinks he has
to win. Everything is a game. Everything is a micro
game within a game, and so if I can make

(01:19:41):
April look like shit, that will make me look good.
And so I win, and April's like, there you go,
you win the divorce. But I think zooming out now,
I think most people would tell you like, oh no,
Aaron's actually the worst person, and people are sympathetic to
what April has gone through.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Well, I've got all the respects in the world for
April just shutting the f and going away. And look,
I hope, I hope upon hope that when all the
legal stuff is settled, she does a one off with
Patrick Melton and spills it all. Patrick is a man
to do it. He's the only person to do it.
Did view April, But yeah, I'd like to see her on.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Mark would do a good job with that, interviewing Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
So yeah, a one time thing where April spills all.
I'd love to see it. But she just went away
and she's not said a thing, and Aaron acts like
a couple of Instagram post is her fucking up every
two days. Like he's in his own little little world
where he sees these things pop up on Kiwi farms
and he thinks it's all new. It's like, well, no,
this is just more court documents that stuff that's already happened.

(01:20:46):
Like April's just been living her life. They're clearly clean,
like I've seen pictures of them, They're clearly not using anymore.
They all look so much healthier, so much they've put
on weight, all of that stuff. So yeah, he desperately
wants them to fuck up and anything, any sign of
life from April gets him so giddy. But the fact
is she's not played it perfectly. And I hope she

(01:21:07):
hits him with the HL right too, because.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
Yeah, there's more coming for sure. He talks so much
shit about her. He's trying to ruin a reputation NonStop,
and that's just it's not gonna go well for Aaron
on that. But I also think that this is the
one that got away for Aaron, and he's talking all
this crazy shit because deep down he is so heartbroken.
That's why he had to get slam piece immediately to

(01:21:30):
try to get over it. He's so heartbroken that Nick
stole his hot wife, that he'll never be in that
league again. And he knows that, and I guarantee his
spank bank, he's probably thinking of her when he's banging
slam piece. It'd be my guest his club are over.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
But by the way, her latest Instagram post is the
hottest picture I've ever seen of her.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Yeah, Like the way she's lying down, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
Can we pull it up? Are you the producer Arabic?
Can we get.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Others the way she's like because she's laying down on
a towel or whatever, she's in a bikini, and the
way her breasts are pressed against the ground, they're pushed
up a little bit. They look a bit more full,
you know what I mean. And yeah, I mean she's
got the sunglasses on, which is always a tell for

(01:22:23):
a woman they're trying to hide how their eyes look.
But no, she looks. She looked the hottest I've ever
seen her look. And I've never been a big fan
of April. I'm not really into girls that skinny and titless,
but you know, she was looking pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
You know, It's funny that they've been saying that April
should write a book, Skinny and Titless would be a
good title.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Right, That's been some fun. What have you got coming up?

Speaker 6 (01:22:51):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
What do you think for stuttering John? Like I've got
bored of him all of that. What do you see?
Do you see him maybe doing something inside to get
a bit of attention again or does he just keep
plodding away Everyone will give him his one hundred and
two hundred bucks a day. What do you think was
stuttering John?

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
So John is working closely with Vince now, and Vince
is going to definitely direct John to make him do
interesting things. So I don't know what the next thing
will be. I've said this, you know, when we were
doing point dabble point, which hopefully we will bring back soon,
When we were doing point dable point every week we're
talking about the week of Stuttering John. There were so

(01:23:29):
many times it's like, Wow, I didn't see it going
this way. This is unpredictable. Is his cross country adventures?
That whole thing was amazing that when he was in
New York. And there's been a lot of things. I
think there's still more fun stuff coming up with John.
It's been a little bit of a wall because these
episodes where he's just performative John, and some people enjoy

(01:23:51):
it or enjoy goofing on it. I can't even enjoy
goofing on it because he's not being real. He's trying
to do a character that he thinks is like a
tough guy, cool, gay, funny guy thing, and I just
don't care about it. I like it when he's real.
I can when we find out what's really going on
and he reveals the truth about his life.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
And that's why I think guests are great for him,
because you get more real out of him with guests,
because he's trying to run an interview, so he doesn't
have time to think about performing. You know, it's just, oh, Dann,
they stopped talking. I got to think of something to say,
because obviously he never listens. I had a point, a
closing point about Aaron there that coincided with that, but

(01:24:31):
now I've completely forgotten, so it doesn't matter. I think
we'll leave it there for the dabble verse, and still
it's on me. It's fine. I lose my train of
thought so often. I probably should stop smoking weed. But
it's fine. We Carl, if you've got a few minutes,
do you want to talk a little bit of Major
League Baseball playoffs and talk about the Bills. Sure, I'd

(01:24:54):
be happy to All right, so you your showing Detroit
has been saved by the Guardians advancing. It still feels
weird to call them the Guardians. One of my favorite
movies of all time is Major League So they'll always
be the Cleveland Indians.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
But that's a question for it. Do you think the
Redskins will be the Redskins again someday? I'm hearing some Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
I would like to see that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
I do. Yeah, I think the fans would like to
see it. I don't know if the NFL allow it,
not that they could really like they couldn't stop it.
But at the same time, like they forced the change
pretty much the first time, right, So.

Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
But they forced the change because of white women. It
wasn't because it wasn't Indians, right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
No, I know, I know. Do you know what would
The latest poll was like something like eighty six percent
of Native Americans had no problem with it or something.

Speaker 4 (01:25:47):
So, yeah, this is the thing. And I have a friend,
a good friend of mine who's Native American, and he's
offended by the Redskins, so he would know better than
I would, but my whole argument was no, no, we're
not calling them a name. Like all these fans are
wearing the jerseys and the logo and rooting for them,
and they're like this is an idol, right, I mean,

(01:26:08):
when you're when you're rooting for your team, you're not
like going, yeah, look at these losers with their shitty logo,
like they were behind it. The merchandise.

Speaker 8 (01:26:16):
It's like, you take the Redskins away and it's it's
like it's gonna disappear. And then it's like, what are
we talking about Native Americans?

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Well, there's that too, trying to honor the culture.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Rid of people seem to have a bigger issue with
the Redskins name than they did the Indians, But the
Indians had them much more.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Races that the Indians. Guys back, Yeah, the Indians just
goes back to the stupidity of the the founding founders
of thinking they'd landed in India and they you know,
Indians already existed.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
The Indians didn't change their name to the Indians until
their captain of their team was Napoleon Laja Away. So
he was the first part like part Indian baseball player.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
So yeah, it was actually a tribute. It was actually
a tribute to him. Yeah, exact to do that right,
And honestly, what they should have changed their name to
this would been because I can't. I can never remember
the Guardians. I'll never remember that name.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Yeah, but I remember it just because of how bad
it is.

Speaker 4 (01:27:19):
Remember the old Bugs Bunny cartoons coming on around World
War two where they had those Japanese people with the
big buck teeth. What about the Cleveland Japs and then
get a really fun logo. Even the kids would enjoy
wearing the shirts. I'd rate for them.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Look, I never thought about it that way.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
Cal closer to Japan than I am. Ozzy is is
that well?

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
No, I was gonna say, go back to Indians, but
poo the logo they might.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
Go, Yeah, but yeah, make it like SMOs By seven
to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
Smart aust doesn't really think about Pan too much because
they're China's bitch. So it's there's that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
It's true, ye, shots fired.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
I mean I moved out of the way of the shots,
so we get everyone else, I'll get it's very true
that we on this pitch they aren't half our country.
For Fox it's Yeah, the amount of resources coming out
of this country and how much way getting fucked when
it comes to cost of living and all that shit.
It's insane. It is absolutely we're.

Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
Going into the geopolitical portion.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I get political,
but it's I'm pretty I'm pretty bad at the moment.
I'm pretty mad at the moment. Yeah, I just know.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
As much as I would never want to see the
Guardians win because I'm still kind of upset about their
whole name change, I do like money, and so I
placed the futures on them. When are plus thirteen hundred
to win the World Series, So I am rooting hard
for them, all right? The Tigers, Yeah, what's been twenty
four years since the Subway Series. It's true. I'm willing

(01:28:58):
to lose my futures bet to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
So Carle for you, would you prefer like the sweet
pain of the Yankees getting to the World Series and
losing in Game seven to break Stuttering John's heart or
would you rather see the Guardians get past them?

Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
I was wondering why you were saying. I'm a Chicago
Cubs fan. Yeah, so I don't have a dog in
the race, although I was rooting for Detroit. I have
a lot of friends in Detroit, and the run they
went on was spectacular. I didn't want them to be
playing in the World Series during our show at the
Magic Bag Act over twenty fifth, so I didn't want
to think of that. Far as far as the Yankees go,

(01:29:36):
I have a tough time. I always grew up hating
them as the evil Empire, and there's a lot of
Yankees fans. I live in New York State. There's a
lot of Yankees fans who live here. Some of my
really good friends are huge Yankees fans. So as I'm
getting older and softer, I tend to start to root
for the Yankees because I know what makes my friends happy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Yeah, fair enough, So you get weird.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
When I was like until I was thirteen, and then
I used to hate the Yankee he's because of Steinbrenner.
But now it's been like thirty two years and Mariners
just being so bad. My jealousy has turned into respect
for teams like the Dodgers and the Yankees, where I like,
I don't hate these teams. I wish my team was
like them and was actually spending money, so I never

(01:30:16):
get upset anymore when the Yankees. It's like, well, yeah,
I mean that's what a team that makes handle or
fists the money, they should at least reinvest some of.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
It into the team, for sure. And look, I'm a
Dodgers fan, but I'm not a big baseball guy. Like
I only watched the playoffs. I do find it hard
over one hundred and sixty two games knowing what games
to give a fuck about. You know, I know the
Dodgers are gonna win eighty five plus games every year
and America and.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
Every game matters, so you watch all yeah, but that's
true too.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Yeah, but no, I'm Dodgers and Cowboys, and the same
thing happens every year with both teams. They win enough games,
look pretty good, get into the playoffs, and then flame
out in the first the second round of the playoffs.
And I saw Dodges like popping champagne after beating the Padres,
and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
What they should be? They should be? You should not
like anti anxiety meds because the fact that, yeah, they
did not look good in that series.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
No, so yeah, I don't like that. Like if you
went on a run, you rallied, you got a wild
card and you got through the I could see Pop.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
And Champagneagne in the world, but it's different circumstances.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Yeah, Like the Dodgers are supposed to be going to
the World Series and every year they miss out. So
I didn't like that look, and I didn't like how
they played, even though they got through the series.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
They just win the World Series a few years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
He talking about but that was the pandemic one.

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
I got to say it as a Cubs fan, I
hate the way you're talking about this. Oh they always lose,
they always flame out. Dude, you're in the World Series
all live. You just recently want it. We went one
hundred and eight years, but that winning a World Series.
You're just we want that one.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
But whatever he's doing isn't an aberration. Every Dodgers fan
talk to this man. I'm like, I know, bitch, just
you make the playoffs. That's good. That would be good
enough for the Americas.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
The Yankees fans in like June and I'm like, hey,
how the Yankees doing. They're in first place? Like, I
don't know, they're not very good. Yeah, there was their
first place and the hardest division there was people.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Calling for Aaron Boon to be fired when they were
like three games in the first place. I'm like, dude,
you can't fire somebody when you're in first place.

Speaker 8 (01:32:26):
Dodgers win the division every years.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
The Cole I just want to go. If the Cobs
ended one hundred night years on a sixty game season
affected by a pandemic, would it be as satisfying to
you as the one you go in twenty sixteen? Wasn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
No good point that Dodger's victory doesn't even count? Yeah? Good,
you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
Yeah, I would have counted as Americas fan, but probably
as the years go on and be like, man, it
would have been nice if you'd actually won it in
a regular season, like with one hundred and sixty two games, But.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
So cal who you got? Who you got going into
the World Series, and then give us a World Series
champion as well?

Speaker 4 (01:33:09):
All right, I'm gonna go. Subway series Mets, Yankees and
Yankees insects?

Speaker 6 (01:33:15):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
Fuck yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
I mean I again, I'm a Dodgers fans. I want
Dodges to get there, but a Subway series is cool.
If the Dodgers don't make it, a Subway series is cool.
I like the Mets because the son Feld would say, Oh, okay,
I'd go that's been.

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
That's have been very hot. I mean, the Dodgers should
win this. I'm sure they're favored right to win.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
The I would think they are.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
Yeah, yeah, I think the Dodgers, though, with even though
the Mets are on the staff run and you could
see them being like, oh, we gotta keep this going.
I think the Dodgers are going to be prone to
what my favorite sports talk radio guy calls tight tooks syndrome,
where I can see the Dodgers if they lose like
Game one, er Game two, and it starts going deeper
and deeper in the series, I could just see the

(01:34:00):
Dodgers choking it away. So I think the Mets are
kind of playing with house money. They know this team
isn't going to be the same next year. This is
the last run for guys probably like Pee Alonzo, he's
probably gonna go sign a massive contract extension, a free
agent deal or something. And so yeah, I would have
to do Yankees because I just like, sometimes you think

(01:34:22):
team of Destiny, and sometimes the paper just tells you
can't go against the team and guardians Yankees, you can't
and good logics say the Guardians are except for their
like late end bullpen are better than the Yankees. So
Yankees Mets, And unfortunately I was before he before Carl
said it, I had put Yankees in six. So I'll

(01:34:43):
go right to I know that's a terrible like radio
and they say when you agree with each other, But yeah,
I agree with Carl.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Josh.

Speaker 8 (01:34:55):
Unfortunately Jake Taylor is not going to be walking through
that door. So I'm taking the Yankees Dodgers World Series,
and I like the Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (01:35:05):
That'd be exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
Yeah, Dodgers found I've gotta say Dodgers are gonna win
it because otherwise what the fucker we're talking about? But uh,
in all serious, does this series does scamy? I think
if the Dodgers get through, I'm more confident that they
win the World Series. I'm more worried about the Mets.
For everything you guys said, the Dodgers do this every year,
coughing up, the Mets are going nothing to lose. It

(01:35:28):
does scam me, but I'll stick with the Dodgers.

Speaker 8 (01:35:31):
Hey, Otani's handler's gone down for this ship. So Otani
versus Judge has been builled. It's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
Nuggets that might pitch in the World Series. If they
make of that far, I'm like, there's no chance.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
I mean, it's not back from the late.

Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
I mean he's throwing both ends at effort, like he's
got his fastball back tow hundred miles an hour allegedly,
but like, there's no chances his agent's gonna let him risk. Well,
I mean he's already signed for seven hundred million. What
does it matter.

Speaker 4 (01:36:03):
Yeah, I don't think it's up to the agent at
that point. If you've got to win a game in
the World Series, you gotta win a game.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
Yeah, But I mean if if he was coming up
on his contract, that's a good point. I could see
it happening now, feel like a baseball moment you'd write about.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
That's a great point. Actually full theater if you know,
like light in the game they bring out against Yeah, yeah,
that would be that would be great theater.

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
That would mean that he's not playing a position.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
Well, they changed the good point. They changed there's the
tawny rule now where you can come in and what
is it. I forget the exact language, but he could
play designated hitter and then switch to pictures.

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
Okay, okay, that would be the move. Okay, cool, Yeah,
but you know I do like that matchup a Tani
versus Judge. I mean, obviously the regular season incredible both
those guys, but Judge is not hitting them all.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
No, not Now.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
I wonder it's because I would love to go back
and do like a statistical analys and see what his
averages against top twenty pictures compared to the rest of
the league. Interestings like when because maybe they can exploit
his holes that other pictures can't and he just can't adjust.

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
But ay, Rod was the same way. A Rod put
up numbers every season and then couldn't do shit in
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
That's the funny part.

Speaker 8 (01:37:22):
You said, like Judge hasn't been hitten in this last series,
but now John Carlo is like, hey, let me start
kicking it up.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
And also throughout that series was something that's come across
my twitter. Fa Coal, maybe you need to start who
are these sportscasters? What have we thought of Bob cast
As calling? Uh these Yankee games like so uninspired? So
just like bland and boring. I guess you're gonna say

(01:37:51):
something wi me.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
I was gonna say it what. It didn't annoy me
until he sounded almost disappointed during that one double play
that happened in the one of the games he's calling,
and it was like, wait, does he have money on
this team? Like it was like, oh, I'm that And
I was like, what's going on? But I don't mind
Costs is when he start try, when he starts going
off on a soapbox tangent is when he really starts
to annoy me. If he was calling football games with

(01:38:15):
that type of like the way he calls a baseball game,
then that would be annoying because you need more energy.
When he called football game, his pink.

Speaker 8 (01:38:23):
Eye call was the best.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
When he was at the Olympics trying to survive with sink,
that was pretty funny.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
I gotta say I didn't realize Bob Costas had that
history with the WWE. So watching mister McMahon that documentary
and seeing by a young Bob Costas in the Rigged set,
I'm like, oh, that's pretty cool. I had more respect
for Bob than I previously had seeing that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
Yeah, I think I'll got a ton of respect for
Bob Costas in like as a host, as a presenter,
he's not a play by play guy. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
I just he was good at playing long time.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
Yeah, don't get me wrong. I think he's like he's
perfectly fine doing play by play, like he he can
do you a perfectly good job. But he's not inspired.
You know, there's plenty of callers out there that are
terrible play by play terrible, and I just found him
really boring, Like, you know, get the energy out, it's
all I'm all. I'm saying, all right, cow Robbie is

(01:39:22):
one of the biggest Josh Allen ball lickers in the world,
and you're obviously a big Buffalo Bills fan. Thought so
far on the season and how you feel it's going
to go for the rest of the season.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
I was telling my buddy Binnie Paulino, was a huge
Dolphins fan. I said, hey, man, do you want a
quarterback because I got one for you. Because Josh Allen
the last two games that he's played, I've never seen
worst quarterback play. I don't know what's going on with them.
I don't know if he's can cust or if he's
just injured or what's up. You know, they're trying to
say that just because they didn't have their wide receiver
secure in the game, no one could get open. But

(01:39:58):
he's just not making the play. Anam looks terrible these
last two weeks. I don't know what's going on with them.
I didn't expect a lot from the Bills this season. Now,
the way the division is shaping up, it looks like
it's a very winnable division. So I don't want I mean,
this Monday night game against the Jets, I'm terrified that
somehow the Bills lose the fucking awful Jets team that

(01:40:19):
just fired their coach. So I don't know what's wrong
with Amion. He looked so good in the first three
weeks and looks so bad the last two weeks. I
don't know what's up.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Rubby Robottom, he's definitely concussed and injured. Especially the smelling
salts thing was a little hard to watch. It great
if you came back and one, we'd do any Captain
America narrative instead like that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:40):
Yeah, when they had the defense gets them first and goal,
they're down twenty to seventeen first and goal and they
had to settle for a field goal. Right there, We're
just like, Okay, they're not they're not trying to win
this game.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
I will say no. I mean, the Texans and Ravens
are both two of the probably top seven teams in
the NFL. So if you're gonna lose two games in
a row, it would be to that would be a
good two games to lose in a row.

Speaker 4 (01:41:02):
No, I agree with you. That's a hard part of
the schedule going on the road against those two teams.
But it's the way the offense played that's gotta get
you going as a Bills fan, like what are we
even doing? Are we gonna figure this out?

Speaker 7 (01:41:13):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
And it is troubling that if if you need Khalil Shaker,
who's a good slought receiver, but if you need him
to be on the field for you to have the
offense to move, that's concerning. I would still say I
still think Josh Allen's the second best kV in the league,
maybe third after Burrow, depending on Burrow's like a glass cannon.
So who knows. But like I mean, people the Bills

(01:41:36):
fans that shoot on Allen and say you want to
trade him, who would you rather have? Like you can't.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
I'm kidding, I'm just I was just angry.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Name Rob who loves goats, who didn't hated Josh Allen
the entire time he's been in Buffalo and he's a
Buffalo's Bills fan, and it's just one of those things
that is so annoying to me. So, no, he had
two bad games with side Patrick Mahomes, who hasn't had
two bad games in their career or Tom Brady, Like,
I just don't get it. My wife was convinced, Yes,

(01:42:08):
I agree with I oppressed the nuclear panic button if.

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
Okay, my wife was convinced that Josh played poorly because
Stefan Diggs is on the other side.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
People that actually watched the Jets, I mean the Bills
last year, he would looked so washed at the second
half of that season. He couldn't get separation.

Speaker 4 (01:42:27):
He didn't care.

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
He's Diggs has to get separation on his routes too.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
Yeah, so I mean, I'll go, definitely go with Josh Allen,
the second best quarterback in the league. I think you
mentioned Barrow, but he's injured too much. And what I
would give that Josh Allen on the cafoys, let me
tell you that would be phenomenal. So yeah, enjoy you
Josh Allen. But yeah he does. He's one of those guys.
I don't think he's as necessarily as bad as Fave

(01:42:56):
with the mistikes, but he's he is like five where
he's gonna tie, take the risk and he's gonna throw
peaks and tend the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
Hasn't throw any picks this year. Yeah, that's true. That's
the one thing that we could say because last year
that was that was the big keep us flying the
ball way too much.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
Yeah, he's not doing to.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
Shake it in and that he would throw two picks
a game last year, and just hope he threw four
touchdowns cancel out.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
The Bears twenty seven to ten against or twenty eight
to ten against Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
London game, haven't we Yeah that's London ship.

Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
Fuck. Jackson said, Yeah, the Bears are big. Oh fourth quarter,
just started.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
The bench all my Jaguar guys. Then, I was how
much of a bust?

Speaker 8 (01:43:40):
How much of a bust is Trevor Lawrence?

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
They threw so much money at him too.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
I don't know what they like.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
They didn't hear that money at.

Speaker 4 (01:43:48):
Him, No, they didn't. They thought they had something.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
They could have waited six games into this. There's no
rule against doing extensions in the middle of the season.
Why not wait and see if he starts off the
year well and then say, okay, I'll throw you this
god like amount of money at you. But no, it's
a while.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
They got seduced by the twenty four twenty seven point
comeback against the Chargers in the playoffs. They got seduced
by that. Yeah, and they were they said, this is
our feature.

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
You have to ask questions if you get down with
that many points in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
Yeah, exactly, you know what I mean. So no, I agreed,
Kyle Ye. Like, looking at that division, the IFCA, it
really does look like buff Lake and a bit similar
to last year. Actually, can just fumble their way into
winning that division? Right?

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
Yeah? Well, I was saying before the season started. I'll
say it now. The Dolphins I think are the best
team in that division. Losing to I don't know that
they can overcome that will to come back. Possibly, maybe
he'll come back and play really well and the Dolphins
are going to run. That could definitely happen. But if
they don't get to it back, they got to figure

(01:44:57):
it out because Tyreek Hill is getting past He's not
getting the ball and up. They have too many players
with skills that you're not like losing these games and
not getting any stats, that they're going to implode.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
Yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
Competitive because if they really implode, I could there's a
nightmare scenario where every Kield goes back to the Chiefs
and then no team has a chance to win the
Super Bowl besides the Chiefs. So that would be Yeah,
that would be bad. I'm going to bring up a
comment for the first time today, black cast. Thanks for
joining us. How's you go?

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
You have plugged a part our Bob cost us coverage
on w A t B on Tuesday. How are you
not monetized? We're close? Yeah, everyone is here actually today. Yeah, yeah,
we actually describe. Yeah, hit subscribe place. We're almost lost
people we lost to last week. I saw it at
four seventy and then I saw today it was for

(01:45:56):
sixty eight.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
So take out Metallica.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
That's why it must have been.

Speaker 4 (01:45:59):
Yeah, scoop, scoop definitely. Yeah. So Christian Blatt and Eric
Zaane they do a show on who are These Podcasts?
YouTube channel Who Are These Broadcasters? Every Tuesday at two
pm Eastern time, and they'll be covering the They talk
about the broadcasting, not the sports side of things, so
they'll be covering bycast.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
It's the only title of your like little who are
these Umbrella? It's the only title that makes.

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
I know, and I wanted to be who are these broadcasts?
And then I can't remember if it was the logo
or the theme song became hear of these broadcasts?

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
Like that's fine, Yeah that works, Yeah for sure. Well, look, yeah,
I think we've we've done enough.

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
Kyle.

Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
You've been really generous, more than generous. Yeah, I mean
I think all the people that are here already know
what you do. But yeah, anything you want to let
anyone know about now is the time.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
Well, thanks Mellas, thanks for having me on the show.
A lot of fun talking to you. Guys. We do
Who are these podcasts? If you still listen to audio
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podcasts from. Full episodes come out every Thursday and Sunday.
We dropped one this morning, and of course we have
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(01:47:16):
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With these podcasts, you get bonus episodes every month and
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Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
Excellent. Thank you very much, Cayle, you are a legend.
And yeah, you've blown away our record live viewer numbers hit.

Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
One hundred and it's got it went up to like
one hundred and sixteen.

Speaker 4 (01:47:41):
So that was cool, all right, it's been great cool.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
Yeah, the day after the maybe going on hugh'sy with
steel Toe was was out fake before that, but you've
smashed through that. So thank you very much for bringing
people over, Carl.

Speaker 4 (01:47:56):
And congratulations to all of your success. Ozzie guy. I
have to tell you, I thought you handled that situation
with Aaron so well because you really showed that you
could just be civil and have a calm conversation and
he could not handle it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
The thing.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
He did breaks out.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
It was amazing to me because I was initially I
was like, I don't think he will be here longer
than five minutes once he sees what's up, and so
initially I was just gonna go straight into asking questions
about April. I was never gonna ask about Kayla and
Ashley the ruin that I was just gonna ask about
April and was like, NA, start soft, start easy, And

(01:48:40):
all I did was asking about his show and then
he flipped and I was like, holy shit. I didn't
realize it would happened.

Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
You imagine any of you guys. Could you imagine going
on a show you're a guest, they ask you about
your show and you get offended by that. I thought
we were talking about boxing, like I would assume you
would ask you about WATP if we went the whole episode.
He didn't bring it up. It like, oh, promote my show,
But all right.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
What exactly? That's what's crazy. He's so like in defense mode.
It's it's astonishing because yeah, like you say, I'm happy
to go on any show and talk about anything. There's
there's nothing from my life that you can pluck out
that's going to spook me and go, oh shit, no
you're bringing that up. So yeah, that was very funny.
And what I will say is if Aaron does ever

(01:49:25):
go on Hughesy show again, Aaron, you know what that means, right,
like you you shouldn't understand that. So if us he
does invite you on on his show, just understand what
that means. Yes, there's no ambush this time. If you
go on uses the show again, there is no ambush. Josh,
hit us with your plugs.

Speaker 8 (01:49:44):
If you want to play some men Cuba twenty five,
you can find me a J three eleven down with
four twenty on the PS five.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
He said that really fast, so I don't think anyone
would have got any of that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
But that's all right. I'm not really looking to play
anybody either.

Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
Robbie, you can find us at USA of a U
S pod. You can find me at Mariner, Robbie, and
those are both our ex accounts, so.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
Thank you, Robbie. We do need to get better at
promotion and all that shit, but we're getting there. I
want to promote Equal Pineapple's YouTube channel YouTube channel Echal
Pineapple with a three where the last should be. We're
doing a show called Wat'sy Randall. It's a show going
back through the XFM days of the Ricky Gervais Show

(01:50:34):
with Carl Pilkington, and we'll will eventually get onto the podcast.
But yeah, we're both huge fans of that show. We
love Carl Pilkington and that's awesome. Yeah, we enjoy breaking
it down.

Speaker 4 (01:50:45):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
It's what got me realizing, Yeah, I should do a podcast.
You know this, This stuff is fantastic. And been searching
for my Carl Pilkington for years and maybe I've found
him in Robbie. But you know, you.

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
Know, Yes, Producer Chris is such a huge fan of
that show and we talk about it all the time.
It's brilliant.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
We'll have to get you on sometime, although we do
it way too early in the morning because we do
that before this show, so that's.

Speaker 4 (01:51:12):
Way too in the producer Chris, and I don't want
to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
Yeah, I definitely do want to producer Chris. Actually, i'd
love to talk to.

Speaker 4 (01:51:20):
Producer I bet he would do that with you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
That'd be awesome. If he could give me a hook up,
an email address or something. It would be great because
he doesn't seem to have any social media presence, right.

Speaker 3 (01:51:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:51:31):
I think she had exposed in this week. Yeah, he
put out his real name and he said that he
worked a job at one point he had a job. Yeah,
I believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
That's crazy. I wouldn't believe it. No, I definitely I would
love to talk Simpsons producer Chris I actually have a
nice theory that John is an amalgamation stuttering John, that
is an amalgamation of every Simpsons character. And there's kind
of a link to every Simpsons character. Yeah no, because
he thinks he's the smallest person in the room. So
does Lisa. Okay, fair enough, Yeah, yeah, I got you,

(01:52:06):
I got you.

Speaker 4 (01:52:07):
There, person in the room.

Speaker 1 (01:52:10):
She's not not always, not always she's.

Speaker 4 (01:52:12):
In a room with margin, Homer.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
Come on, yeah, well we don't know how my smart
margin is she you know, she holds back. She's very anyway,
move on, Yes, Ankle Pineapples YouTube channel. Check out what's
your handle every Sunday morning and I think we do
eight forty five am Eastern. Definitely want to promote that
and otherwise for me on X, I am at that

(01:52:35):
sussy guy. Just imagine that ossie guy and put an
ass where the A should be. We'll catch you next time.
On the United States of Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
I mean Marge married Homer.

Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
So