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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Putin hails trump energetic and sincere efforts to end Ukraine war.
Rob if you have that video there, And by the way,
something very weird just came out from Hillary Clinton about
Trump and Ukraine. But before I show you this clip
that clip, watch this right here.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
This is Putin go for it tonight on the eve
of their High Stake summit in Alaska, Russian President Vladimir
Putin trying to lay the groundwork, heaping praise on President
Trump America's Putin saying, the current American administration is making
quite energetic and sincere efforts to stop the hostilities, stop
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the crisis, and reach agreements that are of interest to
all parties involved.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
In this conflict.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Putin saying Trump wants to create long term conditions for
peace both between our countries and in Europe and in
the world. But the Russian leader saying he has other
goals from this meeting that go beyond the war in Ukraine,
that he wants to discuss nuclear arms control, the Kremlin
saying trade and econmic cooperation will also be on the agenda.
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Trump today not ruling out those conversations, but saying his
focus is on ending the war.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I think that President Putin would like to see a deal.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I think if I weren't president, he would take over
all of Ukraine. But I am president and he's not
going to mess around with me.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But Ukrainian President Zelenski, who won't be in the room,
says Putin is bluffing. And today Trump admitting he thinks
there's a twenty five percent chance this summit will fail.
But if it doesn't, Trump says he wants to quickly
bring Putin and Zelensky together for another meeting, even saying
Zelensky could join them.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Oh that's where it ends.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Okay, he sounds good.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So when you're seeing this twenty five percent chance, Zelensky
is saying he's bluffing. You know, Putin's coming in. You know,
he's saying, hey, you know, Trump seems very energetic about
wanting to make a deal. And the Trump makes a promise,
and he told Zelenskian allies that he won discuss territory
divisions with Putin this week and that he greet that
only Ukraine can negotiate territorial concessions this week. So, Tom,
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your thoughts on the story here?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Well, first of all, this is the right body language
from Putin because if you take a look at the
Trump wins on tariffs and other things around the world,
clearly Trump's gaining momentum, and Putin knows this.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Putin pays attention to this.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
He says, Vinny, when you take a look at something
like that, you can clearly see that Putin is not
You're greeing to anything. But he's saying, I think it's
very sincere and very energetic what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And then they go on to talk.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
About territory, where Trump talked to European leaders and said, hey,
you know, only Ukraine can be at you know, be
at the table for the final word on negotiating its territory.
And Trump is telling Zelenski, hey, We're not going to
discuss territory division with Putin this week. However, then we
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find out it comes out the other way. This is
Russian United States had discussed a model independently like the
West Bank. Now you have to remember what happened with
West Bank and what happened with Sinai Peninsula when Egypt
came across the Canal and the Suez Canal and attacked
Israel from the southwest. After Israel pushed them back they
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actually pushed them all the way back into the canal
and back over and then they took it. And they
told the UN we're not leaving. We don't trust these guys,
and so we want this permanent buffer, and we're taking
their damn land and we're making a permanent buffer between
us in Egypt.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Deal with it.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
And that's kind of And so now the US and
Russia are talking about, well, what if there's kind of
like this zone. And by the way, there's no weapons
and supposedly there's no militarized people in the zone. They're
the Egyptian side of the zone and the Israeli side
of the zone. And if you really want to know
about this, you can go read the book Getting DS
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and that's a great book and it's got the case
study on how they negotiated this, which is very interesting
that this is exactly what the US and Russia are
talking about. Maybe we make a permanent buffer here like
the DMZ in Korea. Now some people are going to
be jumping all over me right here. Now, Russia took
their land and now they're just trying to get it back. Well, look,
we got to solve this thing somewhere and you know
they made this. Ukraine did a huge drone attack last
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night on the eve of them all trying to get together.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
So one of the things you by the way of
the drone attack, there was a couple of them. While
you're Tom, you're saying that Rob if you can pull
it up.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So I recap point one. It appears that good body
language from Putin, you know, whether you agree with him
or not agree with him about the attacks and everything. Second,
I think Trump's really behind the scenes trying to negotiate
something and the fact that the West Bank or the
Sinai or even Korea. DMZ comes up says, maybe we
create a buffer that ends up working for everybody may
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not like it. And then lastly, you know, we haven't
seen Zelenski. It doesn't look like Zelenzi's going to show up.
It looks like this is truly going to be Trump
and Putin.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So the question here is that a rap that's one
of the ones that was reported on and so.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Now this is the automated airplane. Is that crazy?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So the drones they've built, by the way, we were
talking about this the other day with Ukraine. Ukraine produces,
Ukraine produces, I believe the number was.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Was it a I.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Don't know what the number was. It could have been
a thousand drones that day, Rob, Can you check how
many drones Ukraine was producing? They were like five hundred dollars.
They were blowing up five million dollar equipment. That's an
art they we're doing. Just so you know that what
they were doing. But whom in here is yeah, that's
right right there, you see it, so they do.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Wow, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Four million drones this year, two hundred thousand drones a
month and sixty seven hundred drones a day is what
they're producing a day is what they're producing. So you
simply put a bomb on it, send it to a
bunch of different locations, to a smaller country, lesser, you know,
not an inferior weapons. They're being a bigger pest to
the enemy. That's a bigger behema with a ton of
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nuclear weapons that they have there. The question I got
for you guys is this Putin's saying the following. It
seems like Trump is energetic and sincere about wanting to
do you crazy. Okay, So Zelensky says, I think he's bluffing. Okay,
Trump says, seventy five percent chance boom, twenty five percent
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chance it's a bad meeting. I'm gonna do the whole
thing myself. Who here needs who the most? And who
is just fake actor? Nothing's going to get done. That's
the question, Adam.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
You're asking who needs who the most?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Who wants this thing to be done the most? Us
Putin or Zelensky.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
I think Trump wants this thing to be done. He's
the one who said that he'll get this done before
he's even day one, day one.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So look who doesn't want it to get done.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Everyone thinks it's Zelensky.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
I think it's Putin because Putin has the opportunity to
stop this today. He clearly does not want to stop this. Uh,
it's shocking to me that people are so anti Zelensky.
So let's compart to mentalize. Is it Zelenski someone that
we enjoy, that we like, that we want to hang
out with, that we even want to back up? No, no, no,
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no no, But who's actually the enemy.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
It's Putin?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
So you know, you have the great interview with Andrew
Bussamonty yesterday. He was basically saying, it's really a great
return on investment to keep our enemies preoccupied. The reason
that we're not over there having boots on the ground,
whether it's in Ukraine, whether it's in Gaza, whether it's
potentially in China, is.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Let them do the dirty work. And it's basically saying.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Oh, like I don't want to go to the restaurant,
I don't want to have to go pick up the
food door dash that thing Uber eats.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
That thing Ukraine is our uber eats.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
We want to deal with Russia, we want to deal
with their propaganda, we want to deal with their warfare.
Let Ukraine deal with it. Everyone's everyone used to be
melw Bernie Sanders is like the millionaires, the millionaires, and
then it turned into the billionaires the billionaires. News for you,
if it doesn't start with a T with a trillion,
and it starts with an m million, it's really not
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that big of a deal when you're giving people money.
In my opinion, Putin wants to keep this war going.
Zelenski's trying to just stay in power. He doesn't know
what the hell he's doing, and Trump wants to make
a deal. Final point, he said, and a press conference
press briefing with journalists, he said, I'll know within two
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minutes if we have a deal. Did you hear him
say that? And a reporter goes, well, well, how do
you know that?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
He goes, excuse me, this is what I do. I
make deals. This is what I do.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
I think there's a one percent chance of anything good happening.
Trump laid the groundwork of twenty five percent chance that
will fail. I think it's a ninety nine percent chance
that nothing happens from this.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
We'll see question.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
With Vladimir Putin, and at the end of that meeting,
probably in the first two minutes, I'll know exactly whether
or not a deal can be a way.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
How do you know that's what I do?
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Hello, Yes, I mean it's so true. If you want
to know what Trump is, this is what I do.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Okay, So you're saying ninety nine percent chance nothing's going
to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
My opinion is different, Vinny.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Where you at Well, one thing, Well, Adam, and you
said that there are enemy? What what's We're not at
war with Russia. They're not our enemy. There are adversary.
I think China is a way bigger enemy. At war
with China, not a not a shooting a gun it's
different cod and COVID and buying land and doing all.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I agree with you, there's different types of war.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Well, but with Russia, like we're just peaceful, not peaceful,
but we've been poking the bear with them since the nineties.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
We told them.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
But it's not way.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I understand that.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
But when it comes to this situation, especially with this meeting,
I think Trump is an alpha, huge alpha.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
So is Puin. They're going to be in a room.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Hopefully with Zielinski he's not even bait bro, he's not.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
He can't compare to these two.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
And then when you have all the warhawks, I'm hoping
the Lindsay Grahams and all the defense contracting people.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Pat probably weren't his.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
Ear, which I'm pretty sure they're talking to him, and
like Zelensky, don't there's no money if you just piece
it up and we just stop right now. If you
bow down, we're all gonna lose money, You're gonna lose
your position, and you look weak. Okay, my hopes are
that it happens. But the way that Zelensky is pet
with the attitude and coming in the White House, that
type of attitude comes from people in your ears saying, hey,
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go In there be a freaking tough guy. He's not
a tough guy. He's an actor.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Who and can I to Pat's question?
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Who do you think needs it more?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Uh? Trump?
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Adam mailed it Trump just for he said he was
gonna do it. He's a little bit delayed. But I think, uh,
I think Zelensky. Zelensky need listen because you know what
it is. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying. And
guess what with the drones aside? Who thinks who's lost
more soldiers Ukraine? Ukraine has running up to them and
putting him in bands.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
To me, this is how I see it, and we
can't get to the next story. Is a guy at
the level of Putin or Trump. They don't waste seven
hours of their day going somewhere that they don't want
to do anything. And that's a one way flight. On
the way back, it's another seven hours for Trump. How
long is the flight time for Putin? Rob where Putin
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was going through it?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Do you mean Russia is right next to Alaska? Sarah,
Pellin can see Russia from our house. It's not that far.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
What I'm saying to you is neither.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
One of the LASCAL is nine time zones wide.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So what I'm saying to you is this is not
going to be a meeting where guys are trying to
waste their time going to a meeting like this. That's
one They're not going to do it. So there's a
reason why they're doing this. There's not a waste of time.
So they go eight hours and twenty minutes to Alaska.
So you got Putin's got seventeen hours of flight time.
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Trump's got fourteen hours of flight time. Neither one of
them are doing this for the hell of it because
they need more publicity and they want to get cameras there.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Sure world knows them.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
They don't need another million followers or one hundred thousand
followers or fifty million views. They don't need that. But
to me, in this case, I think the way Zelensky
and NATO did it. So NATO is telling Zelensky we
have your back. He goes and meets with Starmer, he
goes and meets with Macron, is speaking on his behalf.
Macron comes out and says, uh, Trump agreed only Ukraine
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can negotiate territorial concessions.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Macrone says, so Macron.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Is now speaking on behalf of Zelensky speak there so,
which means NATO is not for a deal at all.
NATO's trying to tell Zelensky, you don't have to give nothing.
We have your back, That's what NATO is saying. And Trump,
in this section where he can throw a complete wrench
inside the whole thing and is capable of doing that,
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is really, you guys all teamed up against me, NATO. Really,
that's what you want to do. No problem. I the
country that gives the most money. I'm agreeing to put
Russia be a part of NATO. Go and play that game.
So I think they're they're they're the Trump and his
Trump is showing this hand, which is three cards. Trump's
got two cards that he's like, nobody knows what those
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two cards are, including heckset. No one knows it, and
all of a sudden he's gonna drop it. It's like
that moment when Trump is standing next to net Nyahoo
and he says, yeah, we're excited about Gaza. We're gonna
take over, guys, We're gonna take We're gonna make And
then look what we didn't speak about this. You didn't
agree to this here, So I think that's the surprise
element of Trump that's coming here soon. What he's gonna say,
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who knows. But in this case, I think Putin needs
this deal the most. I do think Trump wants it
for different reasons, but I think I think Putin honestly,
if you think about it, Putin's been publicly humiliated. Zelensky
has not been humiliated. Zelensky has been turned into a hero.
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Putin's been publicly humiliated because every body thought within thirty
days the war is going to be done and Putin's
gonna get what he.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Wants, and that's not been the case.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yes, So it's a bit of a it's a bit
of a black guy in front of that black guy.
It's a little bit of a black eye, nothing wrong
in front of his audience of what happened. And it's
to the point right now where Hillary Clinton chimes in,
and this is what she said. She admits she would
nominate Trump for Nobel Peace Price if it helps and
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the war in Ukraine. Hillary Clinton admits she is this
it rob does does she say that, let's see it
President Trump or the architect of that, I'd nominate him? Wow,
that's right, we are okay, so there you got her.
So I mean, and the reason why Hillary Clinton's saying
it the way she did. You know why she's saying
it as confident as she did, because she knows something
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that there's no way it's going to happen, or else
she would never say that. You think she's involved in
the conversations with Nato and Zelensky. You think she's involved
with all the Democrat establishment talking to each other on
what they're going to be telling Zennski. You think the
inside establishments told her exactly how the conversations went. Of course,
I don't think. I think Hillary Clinton just gave away
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her cards in that statement, and the cards are over
my dead body.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
This war's going to end.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
And because i know the war's not going to end,
because I'm involved in it on the inside with some relationships,
guess what I'm willing to say publicly that I would
nominate him to a Nobel Peace Prize because she knows
she never will. If she does, it'll be the first
time in her life that she shows a sign of nobility,
which is great. But I think that was her having
too much information that she indirectly told the world that
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I kind of know a little bit more than you
small time people out there that you are doing podcasts
and shows and mainstream and.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
All this other.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You guys are not in the inside. You guys are
just you know, what's the word. You guys are just peasants.
You guys are just a masses. I know what's going
on because I'm on the inside of the conversation.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
That she's such a psychopath, self dealing person that she
would rather see the war going on in Russia and
Ukraine then see Donald Trump, her biddle rival, Hillary Clinton,
received the Nobel Peace Price.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Do you think she's that just diabolical?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You're really asking that question, Like, what kind of a
question is that? I mean, you're talking about a person
that you're talking about a person that in twenty sixteen,
Do you know what happened to her? She said happy birthday,
future president to herself.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
That's just an egomaniac, right, No, she was going to win. Yeah,
but that's different from being diabolical.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Oh, I know, this woman is on a whole different level.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Now, never underestimate the power of a not you know
she is, this is Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I know we want to move on.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You know how highly she thinks of herself. Oh no,
this is a week before the election. She wished herself
a happy birthday and then she lost. You think she's
ever going to forget the state. No, she's not gonna
forget this.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
I mean, listen, every politician is a narcissist in some capacity.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
She's like, guys, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
By the way, just side note what percentage of the
stories we hear about Hillary.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
She did this, she did this? Do you think are
actually true? Ten? Twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Let me put it on you this way.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
If twenty five percent is true, yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
It's like when we had Gianni russ so here, it's like,
what you do this? It's like if have to store
you say, I'm sure you're the man.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I mean he's that big of a psychopath. I don't know,
but we'll see.
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