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What's been going on in your lifewhen you were away? When I'm away,
Well, the reason I'm away isa lot of times I'm traveling to
a different place with it, usuallywith the US. I haven't traveled out
of the out of the US yet, but the place where I work,
says, we all over to clientsand sunny Sandy taking pictures of people.
Yeah, video stuff, Yeah,exactly? Are you bringing them back into

the studio and then doing all coolthings with the graphics and designs a little
bit, making people look bigger thanlife pretty much? Well, yeah,
if we're not doing if we're notproducing a podcast for him, then we're
doing you know, more promotional content, marketing stuff. So we got Billy
Bob at the studio running the controls. Good morning, Billy Bob, good

morning. Please don't call me BillyBob, call me Bill, or you
can call me Billy d but don'tcall me billion. Well here we are
sheltering in place from this. Wecould call him the Bill, like you
know the bill with dollar billion.Yeah, well one hundred dollars. We
could call it one hundred bill.What do you like that? Well,

it's raining pretty good outside, folks, and I actually hydroplane. When I
came up over you know when you'recoming west or coming east, and you
get about one hundred and eight andthen the you know, you start going
over all the roads and all that. Boy, I started to slide,
so don't go as fast as Iwas. But anyway, I saw the

most beautiful lightning you were telling meabout that. It was amazing. It
went from the left side of thehorizon to the right side of the horizon.
It was. It was just socool. I wish I'd had a
video. It was something else soundsso cool. Yeah, well, I
thought missus knabs once once the lightningand the thunderstarted. I thought she was

going to snuggle over to me andcuddle me. But she didn't do it.
He slept right through it. Ohman, can't believe that. I
was looking forward to it. ButI just feel so safe with you.
She just feel so safe. Well, listen, folks, today is going
to be a very very special day. We're going to dedicate the whole morning
to Father's Day. And if youcan record the show, I'd do it

because we're going to have some musicin here that's going to be quite a
bit of fun. I'm going totry to help as much as I can
to help young men learn what fatherhood'sall about, but also old men who
are grandfathers. I'm going to giveyou a lot of ideas on things you
can do to make a difference inthe life of your grandchildren and just make

life fun. Now, in thissegment, I brought back my special guest,
Omar Alamann. Now, this isa guy that was born in Cuba.
He went to key West High School. He studied criminalog. He ended
up in the Drug Enforcement Agency andwas doing secret investigations all over the world.

Actually the guy that put the handcuffson Manuel Noriega, and he's one
of my buddies. He came toOmaha and spoke at the Omaha Leadership Prayer
breakfast, and he did such agreat job. I went up and introduced
myself. Well and behold he comeson the radio show, and you remember
Omar I did. It was afun morning, It was a fun morning.
Good morning, and welcome to theshow. Omar, glad to have

you on with us. You're there, Billy, We don't hear Omar?
Is he still on? Are youthere? Omar? He's going to be
coming on in a minute. Butanyway, we're going to try to make

this a really really good Saturday morningFather's Day show. Omar, are you
with us now? Yes? Iam with you now. All right,
Well listen, nice to hear fromyou. Now. You're in Florida,
and you guys were getting a bunchof rain too, weren't you. Yeah,
it's interesting you said that because earlierin the segment you said it was

raining outside. Uh, that's whereusually it rains, and it's raining outside.
The other thing that was also anotherbrilliant piece of work is the fact
that I'm working with the Navite andBilly Bob he's a hundred he's one hundred

dollars bill. That's that's what That'swhat his name is. Now. He
came in as Billy Bob, thissouthern this southern you know, Alabama Billy
Bop thing. He just didn't thatdidn't fit with him for someone training here
too. And I heard the newsthere where I was waiting. Man,
you you can have I mean,you have you have all kinds of things

going over there. I know,were you flooded? Yeah, well you
know, I mean I heard whatwas going on there. No, I'm
not flooded, but around here.There's a lot of clucks. Yes,
yeah, all right. Well,what I am talking about is that this
is the first time are you there, I'm here, I'm here, Okay,
this is this is the first timethe last time I was in your
show, that I got up thisearly in the morning. This is insane.

Pick it up early in the Morning'syou're plus you're an hour an hour,
You're an hour before us. Whyare you whining? You know when
you when you ask anybody in SouthFlorida a radio show from six to eight,
nobody says in the morning. It'susually in the evening. Well,
you know, yeah, I thinkwith you working in the Drug Enforcement Agency,
you were probably used to staying upreal late and getting up real late,

weren't you. Well, that iscorrect for me. Usually ten o'clock
is when I got up. Well, you were going to we're going to
talk about Father's Day. And you'vehad a big impact on entering young men.
And I have two, and Ijust I would love to get your
perspective on what being a good fatheris. Like. I know you have

a son and you've you've had somehuge influence on him. You managed to
to love his mother through years ofbeing involved in all sorts of different things.
And so tell me a little bitabout your perspective about what being a
father's like and should be like.Well, the goodest lesson I learned about

being a father. Unfortunately I learnedafter my son had left for college.
But it was interesting because I wastold after my son left for college that
a father has four functions in thelife, in the life of the son
for the daughter, and they're calledthe four seas of parenting. Force t's
a parent, And the first oneis when the child is from zero to

five, when he's born to whenhe's five years old, you're a caretaker.
Well, the child is dependent onyou, comes to you for everything.
He thinks of you as the greatestthing in the world. You're the
caretaker. You're like the king inhis or her life. And six from
six to thirteen, you go froma caretaker to a cop. He wants

to become independent, but he needsto follow orders, so you become a
cop. Like when my son triedto run away from home and I try
to help him to run away fromhome. He couldn't understand that. But
because the whole idea of going frombeing a caretaker to a cop. Then
the kid gets in the teenage yearsfrom fourteen to eighteen, and now you
have to be a coach because you'regetting ready for life. He's going to

be leaving soon, so you gofrom caretaker to cop the coach. And
then once that child leaves, likewhen he's gone to college, now you're
there only when he asks you tobe. You become a consultant. So
for me, I had to learnafter the fact that as as parents,

as fathers who have to be caretakers, cops, coaches, and at this
stage of our lives, we're mostlyconsultant to our kids. Well, I
think the caretaker phase is probably themost important in the whole thing, you
know why. I mean, Ithink tell me, well, I think

that's the phase that you teach kidsself control, You teach them respect,
you teach them kindness, basic decency, basic decency. And one of the
things that really bothers me today isthe parents that don't teach these kids self
control at a very very young ageand I'm talking about one and a half

two three years old. I seetoo many parents trying to reason with the
child and have an adult conversation withthe child and say now, Johnny,
if you don't stop that, I'mgoing to take away your toy. I'm
gonna I'm going to put you inthe corner. You're going to have to

go to bed early. And thekid might be throwing a fit because you
you took something away, you know, or you know, choke on or
something. Yeah, I mean II And there's only one answer to it,
in my opinion. Drop their doordrawers, get the wooden spoon off

the counter, and spank and makeit sting. You don't beat the heck
out of the kid, You justmake the flesh sting enough that Johnny will
learn after a few of those.Then when mom and dad tell you to
shut it down, they'll shut itdown. And kids today don't know how

to shut it down. Controversial.What do you think, Omar? Yeah,
you know. The the interesting thingabout that, I'm said thatthing about
I don't know. A couple ofyears ago, I'm on a shopping mart
here and I this kid is justabout three years old and screaming aheads of
and the mother keeps going stop screaming, stop screaming, and the kid won't

scream. Finally, I went overto the mother and I said to her,
has your child ever gotten a goodbutt whip? It said, because
let me explain to you how thisworks. You don't have to say anything
to a child's You butt whipp himone time, and you look at him
after you finished, and that lookstays with his brain for the rest of

his life. Then every time youlook at him, he stops. I
was fifty some years old, sixtyyears old, having Thanksgiving with my father
and I acted up. I don'tremember what, and my father gave me
that same look. And I'm fiftyfive years older. Okay, but you

know, you can't tell a childsomething to do unless there's some uncomfortableness attached
with it. If not, they'regonna continue. It's like water, it
runs down the easiest path. Yeah, all right, Omar, we got
to take a break. We'll beright back. Folks, don't go away.
I don't want everybody to think Iwas a horrible task master, because
you know, once that was over, we'd have fun. And one of

the fun things we would do iswe would take a song like September there
by, earth wind and fire,and we'd turn it up and we'd be
dens and all over the house.And I made sure that I had.
Music is a big part of whatwas going on in the home because music
can often completely change the environment andyou can go from intensity to happiness and

those sorts of things. And whendad picks you up and starts twirling you
around and dancing and stuff like that, it really does change a kid's heart.
Absolutely. No. And what you'resaying about being intensible about shaping child's
experiences. My parents, I mean, you weren't the only one who spank
their kids and they turned out okay. My parents. One thing I appreciate
about them growing up and that duringthe years that they were allowed to spank

us, right, they would say, oh, well you're too too big
to spank now you find me No, yeah, you could take me on.
No, it's the thing where theywouldn't approach it from a vindictive angle,
you know. And they would andthey would go and they would tell
us all through the through the thingwhere whether we're being disciplined, whether we
got too comfortable talking back, andthey grabbed the spanking spoon. We always

knew where it was was right ontop of the fridge there. So they're
either grabbing the newspaper or they grabbingspanking spoon, so we always had to
look out for that, Uh itwas coming, and they would say,
look, we're doing this out oflove. Every time. Even as a
kid, I still remember they're like, we're not doing this because we hate
you. We're doing this because welove you. And Yep, to this
day, behave. I wouldn't changeanything else from the way I would raise

up my kids. All right,we've got as our guest, Omar A
Laman from Florida. Omar did withyour Latino background, did you bring any
good Latino groove music to your home? Yes, my father did a lot,
and he taught me that, infact that today I cannot do any
kind of exercise without self and musicin the background. But I was listening

to what you guys got to sayabout loving. See, the whole idea
that I said before is that Ispanked him once, but I loved him
for the rest of his life.The word the spanking wasn't an everyday thing.
In fact, with my son,it was a one time thing.
I spanked him once and I lovedhim forever. Now, the problem I
had with my son is the factthat, like many other dads out there,

we were very busy, and Iwas a very diligent dad because I
was always around on the weekends towatch him play baseball. I was a
baseball player, but in fact Iplayed in the College World Series area that's
corn on a Omaha, and Iplayed for Florida State, the team that
lost yesterday. So anyway, forposition, what position did you play?

Second base? Saga base? Couldyou turn two? Uh? Well,
I turned too. The problem isI couldn't hit a round ball with a
round back. That was my biggestproblem, the hardest thing I ever done
in my life. It's the roundball with round back. But the whole
idea with my son was the factthat he wanted to be like that.

Well, I would be there forSaturdays every time he played, but on
Monday through Friday, I wasn't around. Well, on Monday and Tuesday,
my son would hit a home runor make a great catch because he was
relaxed, he was practicing. OnSaturday, I show up and basically I'm
saying, shay him, show me, show me, Derek, show me,
all right. So the boy goesup there with all the pressure in

the world to show me and strikesout and bringing his back back and crying.
I'm saying to myself, sadly andselfishly, you know what, the
boy will never be as good asme because he just doesn't have the talent.
Not understanding has nothing to do withthe talent. He needs me there
Monday and Tuesday. And yeah,years later, many years later, you

said, Dad, you know it'snot the fact that I wanted to be
a baseball player like you. Ididn't have the skills like you did.
But what I was looking for wasquantity time. You thought that by giving
me quality time on Saturday that coveredthe wound. What I needed to do
is Monday or Tuesday to watch meand do in practice and be there and

help me to catch the ball.And whether I struck out or that on
Saturday or Sunday didn't make a difference. And that that's going to learn.
I failed with my son quality time. And too many fathers today give their
children h you know, the wholeidea of quantity time. They were even
quality. The number of kids thatare growing up in fathers homes today is

like tripled since since the seventies.What's it say about my family when none
of my kids wanted to be likethat one kid they wanted to be like
me. You know, it's funnythat you say that, though, because
it's ironic being the business that you'rein is helping people pass their business down

to the next generation. Yeah,yeah, generation. Well, I had
four daughters, and one of themactually is in my business, but she's
in Arizona, so I got totake that back. But the one and
ones in Kansas City and she's doingsomething different. They all turned out because
I think I led them properly.But anyway, you know, you were

talking about the fourteen to eighteen agewhere you really become a coach. One
of the things that I really triedto do is to look at each kid
and figure out what their unique abilitywas as a father because they're all different,
they come out of the womb different, and what was it about this

kid that I needed to focus onand do to try to help that kid
win in life, whether it wasacademics, whether it was sports, whether
it was dance. You know,four girls, you got dancers, you
got cheerleaders. I didn't have reallyone athlete out of the four girls.
Uh, but there's families that dohave athletes out of the four girls,

and it's the father's responsibility to checkthat kid out and say what can I
do to put that kid in anenvironment right so that that kid can win
to n whatever that they Yes,let me say this about daughters. I
did not have daughters. I wanteddaughters. Let me tell you why it's
so important for a father. SeeI talked about my son, but I

was thinking about a daughter. AndI see it all the time. It's
so important for a father to showevery day a daughter what a real man
is like. Because when that daughter, when that woman, when that young
woman is ready to make a choiceabout who she wants to marry, hopefully
she has a dad next to herthat that's the kind of example, that's

the kind of man she wants tomarry. So what you did, or
what a good father does, isshow a daughter what a good husband looks
like. And that's why we havethe problems today because there are so many
homes with no fathers or fathers thatactually give the daughter the wrong. Yeah.
Well, I'm going to talk moreabout this later, but you know

what the number one thing is afather can do to accomplish what you just
said. You walk in the door, you put your wife if she's shorter,
than you up on this on astep. You grab a hold of
her and you give her a big, big kiss, and you hold her
tight and tell her I love youand I'm glad to be home. How

you treat their mother is the firstthing that a father needs to do to
set the states for what you justsaid, don't you think, well,
I mean I do. I doagree one hundred with you, because you
know, it is so important tosee boy can be an athlete for so
long. A woman needs to bea mother and a wife all their life.

And the fact that you can dothat for your daughters, if believe
it or not, it's much moreimportant to teach them. I mean,
it's good to play, teach toplay second base, but that is temporary.
But when you show a young womanwhat a home really should look like
and the kind of person they shouldsay, you know what, in the
end, even though my dad,my dad is a pain, sometimes that's

the kind of person I want tospend the rest of my life with.
Absolutely. And it's funny you mentionedthe showing one showing what a good and
quality man looks like, because whatyou're seeing today is repeating that cycle.
It's becoming a vicious cycle where theydon't have that in their home, they
make bad decisions later on when theymake those choices in mats in life partners,

and then you see the same exactprocess repeat without a partner or without
a without a dad, and thewhole thing starts over here. I saw
a post on Facebook that said somethingof the fact. Back in World War
two, men were volunteering to gofight the Germans and twenty twenty four men
are trying to compete against women andwomen's sports. Really, what a contrast?

What else, omar, We're downabout a minute. Any other thoughts
on fatherhood before we say goodbye toour Florida comrade. One last thing.
Because we were poor, I learnedsomething that I think kids need to know
today and father should be willing toteach their kids. I learned as a

child delayed gratification, and that meansthat you can't have it right now.
Because we were poor, I hada life where I got used to delayed
gratifications. As a result of that, the glove that the first glove my
father bought me through a lot ofhard work. It took a long time.
I have here in my office,and the reason for that is that

I understood what it took. Ithink that today it's important for children,
in a world where everything is instantgratification, to understand that delayed gratification is
at the core of being an ethicalhuman being. That's so good. Yeah,
And I you know, I thinkthat that's maybe the second phase of
discipline, right, I mean,the first phase in the early years is

the spanking and having these kids beginto learn self control. But the second
phase is what you just said,don't you think. Yeah, I mean,
and it's so important for our childrento understand you can't have it now
that you must work. You mustwork to get things. The entitlement mentality

that I see sometimes just blows meaway, right, But that's because the
parents themselves instill that instant gratification.In other words, you have to fight
back what the world says and say, look, you have to wait,
you have to work. You haveto see and reap the fruits of your
work. That's what being a humanbeing, what that kind of person used

to want your children to be.That's awesome. Omar, thanks for being
a part of the show this morning. It's always great to hear your voice,
and you always got something good tosay. It is always a pleasure
despite the time slot of your show. I love on your show. All
right, Well, go back tobed then and just give your wife a

good cuddle. Okay, I'm gonnatake a nap and I'll see you and
God bless God bless you. AllRight, folks, we're gonna keep going
here on Father's Day all morning.We got a lot to say, So
you're gonna want to get this podcastif you have sons that need a little
bit of mentoring and those sorts ofthings. So stay tuned. We'll be
right back. Whether it's kids,grandkids. The whole place gets nuts and

I do a lot of dancing tomake make the home happy. If you
listening to the podcast, we can'tplay music during the podcast. That was
cool and the game get down onit. But anyway, let's get onto
our subject. We're talking about fatherhoodand the Census Bureau did a study and
it found that a majority of theseventy three million American children under eighteen live

in families with two parents. Butit's a date decrease from eighty eight percent
in nineteen sixty. Of those fiftymillion children are living in families with two
parents forty seven million live with twoparent two married parents, and three million
live with two unmarried parents. Andwhen you break it down, I know
that's kind of confusing here, butwhen you break it down by race,

the statistics are big time different.The percentage of white children under eighteen who
live with both parents almost doubles outof black parents. Seventy four percent of
all white children below eight eleven livewith both parents. Thirty eight percent of

African American miners say they say thesame, okay, but instead now we've
got more than one third of allBlack children in the United States underage eighteen
lived with unmarried mothers compared to sixpoint five percent with white children. So

almost well, it's one third thirtythree percent of all Black children live with
unmarried mothers. The figures reflect ageneral trend. During the nineteen sixty nine
to twenty and sixteen period, thepercentage of children living with only their mother
nearly tripled from eight percent to twentythree percent. That's one of the things

that breaks my heart the most isis these young kids, especially Black kids,
that have no father figure whatsoever inthe home, and almost not even
as much no father figure, butso many negative figures. You know,
it's like maybe it's a revolving door. Maybe they've got no neighborhood figure even

to rely on as an adult.Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, and
you think of outreach programs, youthink of this and that if their situation
is less than ideal, and eventhen it can be a revolving door.
I mean, there are volunteers thatcome and go. There's just no unstable
Well, what happens if a motherhas multiple boyfriends that she brings in the
house over a twenty year period,sure, ten year period. Yeah,

and if it's a situation like thatwhere the mother is is not as high
quality of a role model exactly,and then yeah, exactly right, then
you just have just compounding issues.Okay, So the father, The National
Fatherhood Initiative says that one in fourchildren live without a biological, step or

adoptive father today. Uh so itshows that when the father is absent,
you have a greater risk of poverty, they're they're more likely to have behavioral
problems, there's a greater risk ofinfant mortality. They're more likely to go
to prison, to commit crimes,to become pregnant as a teen, to

face abuse, and neglect, toabuse drugs and alcohol, to become obese,
or to drop out of school.You know, I've been around some
situations lately where it was definitely Iwas in a definitely a low income environment.
The obesity just blows me away.That is true, But I think

that says something to socioeconomically, touse a big word to my calculations.
Yes, you're got torn out allfood. Yeah, the most accessible food
they have is just bad. It'sjust bad food, right, very processed,
the Twinkies, the wonderbread of theworld. And that's just that's a

whole other issue that we can talkabout separately. A part of the whole
is it a matter of economics wherethey can't afford to buy good food?
Is that what you're saying. Ithink it's probably a bigger deal is you
just don't have the discipline of eatingwith the mothers and the fathers in the
home, eating regular meals and makingsure there's vegetables and fruits and high quality

food. It goes back to singlemothers that you know, the bottom line
is the father's not around to helplead the home, right, that's one
hundred percent bottom line. The thingabout just being involved as a father is
you don't even have to be Imean in regardless of whether you're divorced,
you're with your co parenting, nomatter the situation, if you're just involved.
The stats are so clear. Childrenwith involved fathers have a way lower

risk for infomortality, low birth weight, emotional behavioral problems, not to mention
neglect and abuse, an injury.Obesity is one. Poor school performance,
I think especially you can look atschool performance and you look at a motivating
factor like kind of like Omar wassaying, you know, you get to
go, you know, on aspecial trip with dad, if you if

you know, get getting good grades, but just different things like that.
So criminal activities down, suicides down, incarceration is down, just with being
present, being involved as a father, not necessarily having you know, you
don't have to be you know,married to the spouse. You don't have
to you just have to be there. You just have to make an effort,
yep, and be involved. Well, I totally agree. Okay,
it's break time already again. We'llstay on the subject, folks, We'll

be right back. We're playing reallyfunny songs that I like to mess around
with my grandkids and kids and thatwas Jungle Boogie by the Muppets. By
the Muppets, And when you seethe characters that they weep through that whole
thing, it just really is isfunny. So we're talking about fatherhood all
morning here on our show. Andone of the things that really struck me

was when I was in one ofmy Bible studies and I came across the
Phesians five and it says, husbandslove your wives just as Christ loved the
Church and gave himself up for herto make her holy, cleansing her by
the washing with the water through theword, and to present her to himself
as a radiant church, without stayingwrinkle or any other blemish, but wholly

and blameless. In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as
they love their own bodies. Hewho loves his wife loves himself. After
all, no one ever hated theirown body. But they feed and care
for their body, just as Christdoes the Church for members of his body.
For this reason, a man willleave his father and mother and be
united to his wife, and thetwo will become one flesh. This is

a profound mystery. But I'm talkingabout Christ and the Church However, each
one of you must also love hiswife as he loves himself, and the
wife must respect her husband. That'sApostle Paul, who never got married,
but he knew the fundamentals of allthis. So I want you to think
about this. I've got I'm goingto give you a nabology here in a
minute. That's from the book ofNabynthians. Do you have that book?

In the seconds in the second Abynthians. It so it says husband loved your
wives as Christ loved the church andgave himself up for her. What's that
mean? Well, it's it's thepicture of marriage Christ is no but what's
that specific mess? It It meansthat you got to be willing to die

for you. Oh absolutely, that'sthe picture that Jesus laid down. Yeah
absolutely, Okay. Then to makeher holy, cleansing her by the washing
with the water through the word.What's that mean? Taking care of not
only just her physical needs, buther spiritual needs as well through word right
and also reading and teaching scripture,and and to present her your wife to

himself Jesus as a radiant church withoutstaying wrinkle or any other blame, blemish,
but holy and blameless. What doyou suppose that means? That's the
responsibility that God has given not onlyhusbands and fathers, or I should say
husbands and fathers to bring up notonly their children, but to lead their
home in that picture. The wholething is a picture. But the wife

needs to be radiant. She usedto be without staining, wrinkle or any
other blemish. So here's the nabology. This is the way I look at
it. When we drop dead andwe walked through the curtain and we sit
down at the conference table with Jesus, He's going to say, Navity,
come on in, sit down,now, why should I allow you to
stay? And I'll say, well, I made a big, deep faith

commitment, you know, when Iwas about nineteen years old, to serve
and walk with you and that sortof. He said, okay, fine,
Now I got all these assignments Ican give people here in heaven.
Why should I give you a goodone? And I'll say, well,
you know, I raised all thesekids, and I ran for governor and
I ran for mayor, and I, you know, have done music.
He's gonna say, nabty, Navity, Navity, quiet, now show me

your wife what does she look likebecause she was married to you? Does
she have all kinds of stains,wrinkles and blemishes? Or is she radiant?
Is she holy? Is her heartin a good place? Show me
your wife first, and then we'lltalk about your other assignments. I'm not

interested in anything else if you can'tpresent me a wife who's radiant one hundred
percent. God has given us moreresponsibility than just ourselves, and that's and
that should be clear. I guessfrom the end of this show that's the
one thing you take away. Godhas given men responsibilities outside of just themselves.
Well, the apostle Peter had somethingto say on this too that really
kicked me in the head one day. It says, husbands, in the

same way, be considerate as youlive with your wives, and treat them
with respect as the weaker partner,as airs with you of the gracious gift
of life, so that nothing willhinder your prayers. Now, think about
that. You could get on yourknees and you could beg God for this
and beg God for that. Butif you aren't treating your wife the right

way, guess what, the Lord'sprobably going to sit back and just let
you stay in your misery until youstart treating your wife the right way.
It's all about fellowship with God.I mean, sins like not nurturing,
not leading the home are gonna getyou out of fellowship right, and that
makes your prayers less affection well.I again, the priority of having a

strong home and caring for your wifeis important. Here's the way I like
to explain it. Your wife needsto be able to take her heart out
of her chest and put it inyour hands, and know that in your
hands it is the safest, mostnurtured, most loved place on the planet,
not only with words and deeds,but physical touch. And that doesn't

mean sexual touch. You know,if sexual touch is the primary motive,
you're going to just wreck your wife'sheart. You just can't. You can't
do that. We're talking about fathersand Father's Day, and one of the
things that I see that's a horribleshame that fathers do is they make business

success and the accumulation of wealth thehighest priority of their life. They neglect
their wives, they neglect their children. It's all about building the business,
build inequity, living in the rightneighborhood, belonging to the right club,
driving the right car. Material possessionsbecomes the primary focus of their lives.

And a lot of times the reasonsthey're doing that is because their hearts really
got wrecked by their dad and theywant to prove something. Some have just
this amazing gift of entrepreneurialism that canreally really succeed, but they do it
at the cost of their kids.And like we were talking about in the
first hour, from age zero tofive, you're a caretaker, Ages six

to thirteen you're a cop, Agesfourteen to eighteen, you're a coach,
and nineteen plus you're consultant. Andwhat happens with these fathers that put all
their energy and time into being thisamazing business person or something like that,
is they skip the caretaker, copand coach and they're basically a consultant.

And by then a lot of theirkids are wrecked consulting father throughout the entirety
of their childhood. Yeah, andit's an interesting dichotomy, and it's very
much a departure from what we weretalking about last hour, where they are
in the home, they are verymuch have the ability to be present right
in their children's lives. It's notlike they're you know, single fathers or

absent from their children's they live inthe same place. Right. But a
lot of times what happens in thissituation is it's born out of good intentions.
Even they'll be like, oh,I'm motivated to, you know,
go out build a future for mychild. Go out there, and they
and they become so involved and socaught up in that. However it happens,
it literally happens to the opposite thethe detriment of their children. Right.

Well, if you bring kids intothe business after that too, they
feel entitled and they haven't been disciplined, and a lot of times the fathers
feel bad about the way they treatedthem in the early days. So they're
giving them opportunity in the business andthe kids haven't earned their spurs. Oh
and the road to hell is paidwith good intentions, right. I mean,
this is like a thing where it'snot necessarily not at all you you

hate your child or anything like that. It's because you become so caught up
in trying to build that future forthem that you end up becoming less involved
as a parent. Then maybe achild who didn't have a loving father.
No, that's that's my point,and when you get them into companies,
they get entitled. A lot oftimes the parents are blind to the kids

not stepping up their game. Theygot them on the payroll, everybody sees
they're getting favoritism, instead of sayingto the kid, look, you got
to work someplace else for three orfour years before you can come into the
company. And when you do comeinto the company, you got to get
in at seven and you got toleave at seven to make sure that the
other employees see that you're out workingthem instead of just being daddy's you know,

son or daughter and just giving acakewalk. Now, if you start
having families, though, you gotto make sure that you put your family
first. So I don't want yourworking from seven to seven, but when
you're there from eight to five,you better outwork everybody else and then get
the education, get the skills.Just don't feel like you're an entitled kid
because you're in the bloodline. Youhave you know, you know, the

get go. A lot of timeswhere I see fathers do a really poor
job with their kids with regard tothis, is their fathers so hard on
them, and their fathers might havebeen alcoholics and pushed them and pushed them
in the business. They get inthe business and they know how horrible it
is to live under a father likethat, that they end up being way

too soft on their kids. Butalcoholism is a big, big deal.
I see fathers drinking too much,and it could be that work has become
such a god to them that they'reneglecting things at home. So things at
home aren't going well. You know, the wives don't feel cherished. The

sex life can often be really sparse, yeah, because you know, you
think the right things aren't going onin the home to make people's hearts want
to be close with each other.You know, you add the alcoholism,
then you can start having affairs atthe work because the gal that works with

me and the other office is somuch nicer to me than my wife.
And even though I have two orthree kids at home, that I've got
to fall and I got to fallfor her. So then you have affairs.
You know, you just you justgo down this path where instead of
putting your wife first in everything andthen letting everything else come together, the

business becomes the most important thing isthe accumulation of wealth. And you know
what, all that, you knowwhat if you go one hundred years from
now, what's that house going tolook like? What's that car gonna look
like? What's what's the material stuff? When you're a dead man, you
got one eye open, You're lookingat the people in the room that are

getting ready to say goodbye to you. Are you gonna say, oh,
I'm so glad that I just builta great company and I'm worth fifty million
dollars? Yeah, this, youknow? Is that what's going to go
through your head? Or are yougoing to look around that room and say,

do these people really love me?Did I really love them and care
for them at all? Have Itouched their hearts all right? When I
go away? Are they really goingto miss me even worse? Have I
influenced their lives in a good way? Because so many times, like we're
just saying, what they end updoing is influencing it in a bad way.

They're more of a detriment than tohelp. And alcoholism is like one
of the the biggest things that ruina father's ability to have the influence on
their kids. I don't see alot of pot smoking, I don't see
a lot of drug taking, butI see a lot of alcoholism in the
corporate world you're saying yep, yep, and and just the business world in

general. You know, if youif you're an employee, it's a little
bit tougher to be an alcoholic becausepeople will catch on to you and fire
you. But if you're running yourown company, you can get away with
it. So that's a big,big problem. Let's take a break and
I'm gonna lighten it up a littlebit. I'm gonna give my key things

that I do with kids and grandkidsso I know they won't forget me.
We'll be right back. If youlook at a grandkid and you say you
I want to be like you,I want to walk like you, talk
like you do. Oh you knowit's you're looking the kid in the face
and you're you're just really making themfeel special. So I'm trying to give

you guys ideas the things that youcan do with these different songs that just
lighten the atmosphere and have some funwith the kids. Now, I do
some very specific things so that mykids will remember me. Now, I
have no idea what my great grandfatherwas like. I have a little bit

idea my grandfathers were like because Ibut I was the youngest one in the
family, and they got old anda lot of them died off before.
But the grandfather I did know,I can't remember really anything fun that he
did, So I do some veryspecific things so my grandkids and my kids

will remember me. One of thethings I do is I wear hats,
whether it's cowboy hats when I feellike being Western, or just a good
summer hat if I you know,in the summertime or in the wintertime,
if I want to wear them,whether they call them fedoras or whatever,
you know, something like that.I'm the grandpa that wears the hats.
They're going to always remember the grandpathat wears the hats. That's right,

it'll be very an iconic thing.How many people do you see wear hats
today? And when you get whenyou get used to wearing hats, you
can't go without them because they keepyour head warm in the wintertime, and
they keep the sun shine off inthe summer, and if the fit's good
enough, it'll keep the wind fromblowing your hair every which way. So

hats is one thing. This isthe second thing. I make the duck
call all the time when the whenthe kids, especially when one is acting
up one of the grand kids.I'll go up to them and they just

they can't they just can't keep going. And and when you and when you
when you're on like FaceTime or somethingwith the kid that's out out of the
uh you know, out of doesn'tlive in Omaha. Yeah, yeah,
out of town. Yeah, youknow you can do that. And they
just all know that's great. That'sGrampa Nabs, you know, popping nabs
or whatever. So quirky duck soundfantastic. How did you learn how to

do that? Were you? Idon't know that. I really don't know.
I don't know. I just I'msince I'm a musician, a percussionis
I guess I'm always trying to makesounds, right. So you just there,
you put your fist and you makea circle with your fingers with your
fist closed up to your mouth,and that's all you're doing. A little

trumpet places yeah, yeah, ifyou play trumpet, you could probably.
Okay, here's another one uh dollarbill. Take a look at this and
tell me what you think of this. So I go up to the grandkids
and I say, you know what, there's a sleeping spider right here.

And I take my fist and I'mjust weaving it in and out like I'm
snoring, and I say, don'ttouch him, don't touch him, he's
gonna wake up. Don't touch him. And then they take their heads really
slowly up and then boom, theyopen him up. And so I put
my fingers all sped him apart likea like a spider, and I got

the spider just slowly going down hisline. And they know that spider's coming
after him. And then once thatspider lands on their leg, it goes
right up. But it tickles themlike crazy and makes them go nuts.
So and it's you know, it'sinteresting. Some of the grandkids when you
do it for the first time,they're scared and they cry and they run
away. But when they get alittle bit older, yeah, you know,

you sit down next to grandpa andthen oh no, there's a sleep
and spy. Don't wake him up. We also have a sleeping fish.
So when you hold your hand perpendicularto the floor, and then when they
bump it, you wiggle, youknow, like a fish, and you
come after him that way. Okay, so the next one is the rocket.

Oh, so what you do isyou take a kid and you stand
them up on something. It couldbe a chair, you know, it
could be a commode, something,table, whatever. But you get them
higher in the air and you putyour hands down ankles. You go five
four three two one, and thenyou start shaking them and then and you

pick them up in the air andyou don't hold them in the air with
the two hands, but you putput them on your forearm so they're parallel
with the floor. And then yourun around the room like a rocket,
and you go around the island inthe kitchen, and you might go up
the steps and come back down thesteps, and you go around the chairs
and then you get over to thecouch and oh no, oh no,

it's gonna crash. And then youbounce them on their backs on the couch,
you know, so they get agood bounce when it's all said and
done, and they laugh and laughand laugh, and then you you know
what they do is they start liningup. Oh yeah, one. And
I tell you, once the kidsget heavy, what's the what's the graduation

age for that? And Grandpa canonly do about four of them? He's
done for how old? Well?Two? You know, once they start
really getting a sense two and ahalf to three is when you really can
start doing it, and four andfive. Every time they come over,
Grandpa, can you do the rocket? But you can't do it. You
can't do a regular strapping nine yearold eight year old. Oh gee,

yeah, that's gonna get especially whenyou're running around and you're not breathing right
because you're going oh right, right, you know the whole time, so
you're not sucking enough air keep yougoing. But so those are like some
little things that I do that Iknow they'll never forget me, because they'll
say, do you remember the grandpathat wore the hat? Do you remember

the sleep and Spider? Do youremember the rocket? No, it's so
funny the things that we remember fromour child. It's my dad would come
home from work. Now I thinkabout it, this is probably felt super
good. But he would just laydown on the floor, face down,
and we just climbed from from himtoe all the way up to his shoulders.
And then we call it like thepenguin game because we'd act like penguins.

We walk all crawl over him.It probably felt amazing kind of like
that. Yeah, yeah, Ifelt amazing. So now come to think
of he probably was like all right, let's just keep on doing this all
evening. Uh. But we thoughtit was the best fun. We just
line up and then you'd give usa little boost at the end, and
we just make a circle. Literally. We do that for an hour.
Uh and and and thinking back,that's something I really remember enjoying time.

I forgot one thing. Oh dude, I have a drum set in the
basement, right And so what I'lldo is I'll take a grand kid and
I'll put them on my lap behindthe drum set. And I've got the
bamboo sticks as opposed to regular sticks, so if they beat the crap out
of the drums, they won't hurt, you know, or if they start

hitting a side of it or whatever. But what I'll do is I'll put
on like songs that i've been playing, like you know, get down on
it or September or something, andput the kids. I'll put the sticks
in their hands and they're up highenough to where they can I can try
to show them how to play abeat. And I think they'll always remember

Grandpa because he was the one withthe drums that I could sit on his
lap and I could play the drumstoo. And some of the kids just
hit everything random and they're absolutely notin rhythm with the music at all,
but some of them are. Andyou can kind of tell which of the
grandkids have natural rhythm and which onesdon't. You got the grandpa with the

high hats and the hats. Oneof the other things I did was,
like I talked about where I reallytried to figure out what the unique ability
was for each of the kids.And with the daughters, it was like,
Okay, how is dance something thatyou really want to do, and

if you do, get into agood dance school that has all the right
kinds of competitions. And one ofmy daughters made it all the way to
KU and became a captain of thedance team at KU. Back when you
know, Bill Sell was winning nationalchampionships and all that kind of stuff,
So we got to go down tothe KU games and things like that.
So it was that little investment thatwe made. Yeah, I had a

son that just his body just wasn'tworking for football anymore, and I was
really worried about him. So Igot dirt bikes and we started doing dirt
bike stuff together and having fun withthat. Mom was more influential a lot
with the girls than I was,but I tried to be there supportive with
all their their their dance stuff.So you built that dirtrek track in the

in the backyard, goalie, theone that I have now, Yeah,
down there in the No, myson, I'm talking about motorcycles. Motorcycles.
I got you, I got you. Yeah. So then I had
a son that was really good atmidget football, and he was a really

good running back. And so whenhe got to high school, he got
in at Millard North where Petito wasthe coach, and he had huge quads
and huge, huge pecks, buthe had no inner strength in his inner
core, and his back was hurtinghim and his hips were hurting him,
and we just couldn't figure it out. He did so well in midget football,

why in the world is his bodyas a freshman really melting down?
And his physique just looked fantastic,And so we went to a physical therapist
and he said, you got toget him out of that weight training program.
It's just building his pecks in hisquads and he's not getting any intercourse
strength whatsoever. And so we wentand talked to the coach about it.

And he wasn't thrilled with that ideaand thought he knew what was doing.
So I put my house up forsale that was in Pacific Hollow behind Saint
Wenceslass and moved out to a shackin Elkhorn that was built in nineteen sixty
five that had blue toilets and thepeak tub and the white tile and paper
thin walls, and a master bathroomthat was shared with the main bathroom,

so somebody could be sitting on atoilet on I just spilled my tea.
Somebody could be sitting on the toiletin the main bathroom and somebody could be
sitting in a toilet in the masterbathroom and they could hear each other.
That's how bad that house was.But I had to get moved in there
fast enough so Graham could play forElkhorn, and so he ended up getting

his body back in shape, becamea running back. They went to state
the first year. The second yearthey won state and he against Crete.
Crete's always so good, was alwaysso good in Class B. And then
he went on to play at Nebraska. And so it's like paying attention to
your kid, figuring out what yourkid's unique ability is and then doing what

you can as a father to givethem the opportunity to win at whatever they're
good at, whether it's mathematics,whether it's art, you know, whether
it's things like dance, whether it'ssoftball, basketball, you name it.
Do what you can to put yourkid in an environment where they can win
if they want to absolutely push them. I was just about to say that,

Yeah, no, and you're cultivating, right, because whatever natural talents
they have, you want to amplify. But at the same time, you
don't want to be the father ofthat, you know. I see a
sparking you. So now we're gonnado this for thirteen years, even if
you're not passionate about it, youknow, because then that creates the opposite
effect, right, and bitterness andregrets later on in their lives, and

that's kind of the opposite of whatyou wanted to do. Yep. So
it's so interesting. You have tostrike that balance, and I think that's
what you did. But that's that'sreally good. Okay, Now we're going
to take a break. When wecome back, I want you to call
in to five five eight eleven tenfour h two five five eight eleven ten
with a good dad joke. Iwant to finish the show with good dad

jokes. I'm out of material.My kids are sick and tired of me
hearing the hearing the same joke overand over again. My staff is tired
of hearing the same joke over andover again. I want new dad joke
material. And I know there's abunch of you out there that got so
uh in the next half hour.I want to fill the whole half hour

with calls on dad jokes. Allright, four oh two, five five,
eight eleven ten, we'll be rightback. That was smiling face by
James Taylor. And and I justif you're going to discipline on the one
hand and spank, when you changethe environment to that, you know,

sometime later, when things are rightand you pick the kid up and you
dance with them and you look atthem and you sing to them and look
them in the face, it fillsthe heart. Just absolutely feel hard.
Now. I want dad jokes.Four oh two, five five, eight
eleven ten. Did you hear aboutthe Norwegian Navy? They're starting to put

barcodes on their ships. Sure,so when they pull into port they can
scan the navy in hey, Hey, But all right. Are you going?
I got what I got and thismight get me canceled, but I'll
take that risk. You ne go. Come on, we got callers,
you do all right? What doyou call two Hispanic people playing basketball?

What? One on one? Oneon one? Okay, let's go to
I got to talk to Mary becauseMary uh was has been hell holding on
a long time. Good morning,Mary, Welcome to the show. Up.
Mary's not there, it's a button. Hold on just a second?

Is she not there? Did shehang up? Okay, let's go to
j Jay, thanks for calling elevento ten kfa B. What's your dad
joke with a wooden leg? Withher? Hold on? Hold on?
Hold on? You gotta start overbecause you weren't on? All right,

start over? Okay, My latebrother, Jim Parley, my dad would
tell me this joke. You know, you know, son, you can't
hang a man with a wooden leg, and why not? Hello? Are
you still there? Okay, we'rehaving we're having audio trouble. Sorry about
that. Jay, You gotta yougotta turn Jay back up? There?

Are you still there? Jay?Okay, he's gone. I'm sorry.
You can't hang a man with awooden leg. No, I'm just in
suspects. I gotta I'm gonna wakeup in the middle of the night thinking
about this. All right, let'stye. Let's try Rod. Rod looks
like he's got a dad joke.There, Rod, Are you there?
Rod? I can hear your background. Rod, Hello, Rod, Jay

are you still there? Okay?We got neither guy, God got it.
My my dad joke thing is justnot working out for a sec it's
not meant to be. Suppose youever think of content ourselves? You ever
taking a DNA test? Never?Actually, well, I took a DNA
test, and you know what Ifound out. My parents are twins,

but I don't look alike. Nowthat just doesn't make any sense. Wait,
that's a dad joke. My parentsare twins, but I don't look
alike. I understand that sounds likeyou're in the South, are you?
Are you trying to think too toohard? Here? Okay, dad jokes?
Folks? Four oh two, five, five, eight, eleven ten,

And the phones are going crazy anddollar Bill is bouncing around there,
Uh Bill, let's put let's putGary on. Gary. Are you there?
Gary? Gary? Are you there? Now? He's gone, let's

try, and Todd's gone too,okay, Oh wait, there you are.
Okay, go for it. Man. Hey, hey, did you
hear about that ruler factory? Theruler factory? Yeah, that ruler company.
Did you hear about him? No? I didn't. Well they're not
making them any longer. Why that'sthe joke. They're not making the ruler

any longer. They're not making themany longer. Got him? Yeah,
you got Dave so good. He'sstill over there forgot to figure out,
got to figure it out. Ohmy goodness, what do you call?
What do you call a person withnobody and no notes? Say it again?
A person with nobody and no nos? Yeah, what nobody knows?

All right? Do we have Steve? Can we put Steve on there?
All right? Steve, Welcome tothe show. Oh we got Steve's phone.
How about that? Well, we'rehaving all kinds of fun with Let's
take a break, and then Iwant you to call in with your dad
jokes. Four oh two, five, five, eight, eleven ten.

All right, welcome back to eleventhon KFA B davenbdy here. I am
saving the best for a last.Let's go ahead and play this song,
because this one I sing to allthe kids and I have a blast with
him. That's my favorite one todo with them. And they all know
the Grandpa sings a phenomena song.And so I'll say, okay, kids,

you want me to play my favoritesong. Okay, let's sit out
and we get in front of theTV. And then it's kind of hard
to look up if you're if you'reat home trying to look the song up.
Secutt it's the cutest thing to do. Okay, let's go to the
phone and uh, let's talk toGene. Gene, welcome to the showy,

good morning, good morning. Allright. What do you do with
a dog with no legs? Youtell me you take him out for a
drag? All right, in thespirit of Father's Day. Thank you?
Drag drag? Okay, so good, all right, let's go to Steve.
Steve dad joke, good morning.Hey. If you go into a

bathroom as an American and you comeout as an American, what were you
while you were in the bathroom?I think I know you tell me,
well, European. European. Thatis a classical one. That's one of
my favorite. Said good one,that's one of my favorite. I've never
heard that. What are you whenyou're go in as an American, you

come out as American? What areyou when you're in there? I love
that? Thank you, Steve.Come out dad jokes folks, four oh
two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten, Ray, dad
joke? You got one? Doesn'tsound he's on? Are you there?
A couple of them? All?I ray, go for it? We

lost him? How did that happen? We got so many buttons to push
around here. I don't know howwe do it? All? Ray?
Are you there? All right?I'm watching? Okay, there you are?
All right, let's go Ray,Okay, Dave. I had a
great childhood. My dad would rollme down the hill and tires. Those

were good years. Roll down man, whoa, whoa? Where? I
got a lot one? I thinkhe's talking serious. Roll you miss the
bust line man. That's so funny. It was a good year. Good

years. They were good years.Yeah, all right, all right,
what's the next one? Uh?I found my kids were on eBay all
day and they're still there tomorrow.I'm gonna lower the price. Hey,
that's a good one. That's adut. That's a good one. Oy.
Sorry, that's a dut. That'sa dud because it's comes this from

the guy who missed the punchline ofthe joke. Come on, now,
I like it. I like itright, all right? You got any
more for us? Oh? Let'ssee here, maybe off the going?
All right, I got I gotone. Oh, okay, I give
us one, give us here itis okay, okay, ye are you
ready? Yes? Okay. Ifit's cold in here, go stand in

the corner. It's ninety degrees.Hey, oh that isn't that's a Dad
Joe joke. Hey, Ray,thanks for calling. Appreciate it. All
right, we got another caller comein in the meantime. I'm gonna you
know, and Lina, who knowonly and Lina, and who is from
the north Woods of Minnesota, northwardsMinnesota. Yeah, okay, well only

Lena. They're not getting along.They're fighting all the time. Oi doesn't
know what to do, and Helena'sjust deaf. She can't hear only at
all. There's nothing she can doabout it. And so Oly goes to
his doctor and he says, doctor, s fann, what am I gonna
do? I Lina? She shecan't here. I don't know what to
do. We can't communicate it.We're just having all kinds of problems.

What should I do? Doctor?The doctor says, okay, only this
is what I want you to do. I want she go home, get
on the other side of the houseand say Lina, what's for dinner?
She doesn't answer. You go alittle bit closer and ask her a question.
And then when you get right upto her, ask her a question.
So Olie says okay. So hegoes home. He gets on the

other side of the house. Hesays, Lina, what's for dinner?
No answer, So he moves alittle bit closer. Halfway there, Lina,
what's for dinner? No answer.So he walks into the kitchen where
she's cooking, says Lena, what'sfor dinner? She says, roast beef.

I told you that three times.All right, all right, we
got we got Lindsey on line one. There, Lindsey, what's your joke?
Well, you know I heard Peaton the radio. Sorry sorry,
call in a good uh man.I'd let him know that one of our

dogs. You know, a wholebag of scrabble tile. Oh no,
I hate a whole bag of scrabbletiles, scrabble tails. What's the scrabble
the tiles from scrattle, yeah,yeah, yeah, alright, dogg all
those scrabble tiles and then what yeah, so I had to take them to
the bet. Yeah, and noword yet. That's adad job. That's

a good advent. All right,Lindsey, thank you. Okay, let's
let's go to Mike. Mike,are you there, I'm here, Okay,
good morning, Hey Dave. I'mgonna gesture Nebraska knowledge. What's the
warmest county in Nebraska? Oh mygosh, it's got to be on the

southwest corner. Cook is it?Cook? Is it Cook? No county?
Yeah? What's it? What isa cook furnace? Oh? There
you go. That's the one FurnasCounty. You know that's not a bad
one. All right, take you, Mike.
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