Grudge Match Against Galvin's Bulldogs!

In this Mid-Week Edition of the Wests Tigers Podcast, Eddie, Steve and Garry preview the huge clash against the Bulldogs and an old foe this week. Is this personel? Should the Tigers target Galvin physically and verbally? Can we pull off an upset against the odds?

We also dissect the comments by Jerome Luai today about staying at the club long term. Is the right culture being build under Benji and Jerome? Do we need another leader at the club? Plus a look at the importance of the last 5 games and Yiotis quiz.

Chapters
Introduction and Recent Events
Reflections on Team Performance
Injuries and Team Dynamics
Assessing the Forward Pack
Upcoming Game Preview
Jerome Luai's Commitment
Coaching and Team Culture
Game Strategy and Expectations
Final Thoughts and Predictions


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
West Tiger's Podcast, episode number four hundred and twenty three Eddie,
Steve and Gary on a Wednesday night previewing the game
against the Bulldogs on Sunday at Combak Stadium. Steve, I
feel like we haven't been on a podcast together for
a few weeks. You is there something wrong with me
or all?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
No, mate, I'm around. I've had my hand up. You
just mayveen off doing cricket stuff and birthday celebrations. I
never seen anyone celebrate a birthday for a week and
a half before, but you managed to do it, so
good luck. Do you happy birthday?

Speaker 4 (00:45):
By the way, he's NY five big, yeah, forty.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's a little bit and wasn't looking forward to it,
but it was a nice weekend away. Gary. You guys,
both of you guys are actually out at the micd
Up Studios in Parramatta for another collab podcast on Sunday
night with Rob and Joel in the hosting chair. I
had to look at it on YouTube. It looked to
be a good hours discussion.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, it was a good chat. It's a bit different
coming back to zoom and doing one after being in
the studio. I kind of missed my fancy seat and
my camera in my face.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, Gary's Gary's actually sitting here nude on zoom at
the moment, no one can see it, luckily, But it's
a bit different, Steve being I know when I was
on the first week. It's a bit intimidating when you
put those headphones on and the lights the first out
of ten minutes. A bit different to being sitting here
in your kitchen or wherever you are.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, I'll admit to being nervous for the first ten
to fifteen minutes. Once we got into the flow from
my perspective, I just forgot about everything else and it
just became a normal podcast conversation. But yeah, that first
fifteen minutes I was a bit starry. But I've got
to say, just on the point of Gary sitting there naked,

(01:56):
if that was the case, this has been a monologue monologue,
not a podcast, let.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Me tell you, all right, to put that visual out
to viewers, but it's actually not the case, I can
assure you. But boys, we're going to talk about Jerome
lew White tonight, some of his comments that he made
at Concord Today. We're going to talk about the implications
of coming up against Locke Galvin this week and the
Bulldogs and we'll of course do the quiz. But firstly, Gary,

(02:20):
just reflecting on Sunday. I don't know if you've listened
to the Monday Night podcast, but I bought in a
new segment called Monday Eddie, and I bought a few
positives to the table. Do you have any more positives
from how you felt Sunday night? In the micd Up studio.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
We don't have to play Pendrif again this year, so
that's a little bit of a positive. I'm probably a
little bit more positive about it the further we get
away from the game. It was pretty hard. I know,
I was really disappointed Saturday night, A little bit less Sunday,
and it's probably getting a little bit less. But it

(02:57):
wasn't a great performance from us. But Pendrif good.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Seven wins, twelve losses the five games to go. Ordinarily,
for an average and a real team, you'd say, well,
not much on the line here. I feel there's a
huge amount on the line for us the next five weeks.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, I agree, and we don't want the wooden spoon,
that's for sure. I think that'd be disastrous for us.
It just gives all those out there that want to
talk negatively about us another opportunity to do that. We
don't want to finish fifteenth, sixteenth or seventeenth in my
opinion either. I think there's a lot of difference between
fifteenth and seventeenth. We've got a show by where we

(03:36):
finish on the table that we are on the improver. Interestingly,
how to listen today? I know it's been up for
a while, but how to listen today? To Terrell mayin
Teraruver's podcast, you know, and they were talking about and
this is off after six losses in a row. They
were talking about how there's still a lot of belief
in the team, and I still reckon you can see

(03:57):
that this team haven't given up, and I think it's
imant that they still maintain that attitude right through to
the very end. As I've said numerous times, one of
the most disappointing things for me if seasons pass, has
been the fact that we've given up on our season
so badly and just put in such poor performances the

(04:17):
last six or eight weeks of the year. We just
don't want to see that. I don't think we will
from this team, and whether we get two points on
not each week. I don't think it is overly important
a little bit, I suppose, but I just want to
see that attitude right through the last round.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
That attitude is crucially important, Steve. In my opinion, you're
right about the way the last couple of seasons finished,
and we've spoken all year about the change of culture
in our club, and despite how the year finishes, we
need to see that fight to at least see that
that culture has changed. Even if the performances are only

(04:56):
like the result for the year is only slightly better
than last year. That culture, I think it's just as important.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
We'll mention before we go on. If you want to
see that collab podcast, check out the West Tiger's Life
YouTube page. It's up on there already. Steve, like I said,
whether you think or not, because I know you thought
we could push for the eight this year, but I
think the last five games will determine how the mainstream
and the media have a stranglehold on this game, determine

(05:24):
whether this season is a relative success.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Or a failure.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, I agree, because what happens with the mainstream media
is they don't look very deep. They don't dig into
the story. They just want to grab a headline and
make some controversy. So if we finish right down the bottom,
the story is going to be Tigers haven't changed, all
the same same rubbish from the Tigers. If you dig
a little bit deeper, I think you can make an

(05:50):
argument that that's not the case, that it's a very
different squad, that there is still a lot of belief
in that plane squad, that there is a roster on
the improve. It's not there yet, but it's getting better.
If we had less injuries, if we had a little
bit more depth, and if we didn't have the Galvin saga,
and I really don't think we can underplay the impact

(06:13):
that had on the season, then our season could have
looked a lot better. I think. Now that's a lot
of ifs and butts, and there'll be people out there
rolling their eyes saying, well, you know, you've just got
to overcome that stuff and succeed anyway. And I agree
on the first one to actually say that sort of thing.
You know, I've said along we needed to make the ape.

(06:33):
We haven't done it, but I think we're getting there.
But we need to finish strong, mate. You're right, Otherwise
we are going to give people the opportunity to bag
the hell out of us all off season.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I think every position on the table Gary is important,
Like I think we can finish as high as twelfth
or third eight. There's six teams in an absolute dogfight
at the moment, the Gold Coaster Eels, sows Us, the
Dragons and Newcastle. So you look at our draw on
the run home, you'd say winning this week would be
a real bonus. But the games against Manly at the SFS, Cowboys,

(07:08):
Alika and Gold Coast in the Gold Coast on the
Goal Coast in the last round are vital and winnable.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
They're games that if we're genuine about being a better
team than we were the last three seasons, then these
are winnable games. And I think really to walk away
with a real positive feeling about this season, we need
to get two of those three games, and I think
it's crucially important. It gets us well away from that

(07:38):
wooden spoon, and those results in those three games are
the most critical for the rest of this season.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
You mentioned, Steve the fact that the Galvin saga has
had a big impact on our year. I don't disagree
with that. Deklan and I got into a bit of
an argument on Monday night around spine changes, the amount
of spine changes had any injuries we've had, and he
thinks that's also had an impact on our year. What

(08:06):
do you think about that? Taking out the Galvin sug Oh.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, it has absolutely like our spine has been dismantled.
I saw someone talking about the other day saying that,
you know, the spine that we originally you know, wanted
to have, you know, which was well Buller, Galvin, Lewie
and Happy. You know, when they did play together, we
won most of those games, right, so we were definitely

(08:30):
on track. And then the way he left and the
way he showed such disrespect to the club and turned
the players against him, and that really rocked us. I
think it really rocked Benji. I think it was it
was visible, It was obvious that Benji was really rocked
by it, and I think it knocked the stuffings out

(08:52):
of us. It's and then we've had Buller injured, We've
had rotations around the six and seven trying to get
it right, Like we haven't been able to get Fanu
to play any consistent football because of injury, and so
it's been very difficult to get that harmony in your spine,
which is so important. We've also had key injuries to
other players throughout the season, and our depth is we've

(09:16):
mentioned so many times, is mini school, you know, So
once we get a couple of injuries, it shows. So,
you know, if we had had our spine for most
of the year and had a little bit of luck
with injuries, a better season, but it wasn't to be.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
It goes a little bit further than that, Steve, than
just Galvin coming out of it. I listened to that
conversation this afternoon, Eddie, and I did have one question
for you regarding that conversation. What do you regard as
our best spine right now?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
It's the four guys that are playing this week, and
I know they haven't played together yet.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Literally have never played a game together. So I think
that's quite telling the fact that when fain U eventually
he did get over his hamstring issues the first week
he moved into that halves role, Blue was out and
that has been quite critical in our season. Now, I'm

(10:12):
not making excuses for it. Our season is far from
being good enough, and it's not just you're exactly right
today when you said our total amount of injuries hasn't
been that high. When you have a look at other.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Sides, every player in our squad is available this week,
every single player. I don't think you'd have a club
in the game that this late in the year. I
want to give a rap to that Peter Meuser and
their staff because I think they've done.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
A really good job this year.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I know there's luck involved with injuries, but not a
lot of soft tissue injuries like souse of a million.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, so I agree with that part of it with you, Eddie.
But the fact that our key players around our spine,
especially when you have some young players in that spine,
they just haven't got the time together since Gavin came out.
We had a number of times where we had our
our first choice spine playing at the start of the
year when when Garvin was at the club, But since

(11:04):
Garvin's left, at no point have we had what would
call our first choice.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Were five form eight with bullet Galvin who I appy.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Steve.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
I took the forward pack apart a little bit in
terms of asking Decklan how many of them would start
or get on the bench for the other clubs, But like,
I know they're doing their best, but I think it's
it's clearly as the season's gone on, even though we've
brought in Terrell May and he's been excellent, our pack
is still weak.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
It is.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
It's not up to scrape, that's for sure. We talked
about this on Sunday night in the Club podcast, you know,
and Gary mentioned then, and we've all mentioned this that
we need another front row and Rob was actually saying
if we needed two middles, you know, to really be
where we need to be. You know, if you just
look at you know, look at Cannaby this weekend, Like

(11:56):
out on the Hedge, they've got kick Out and Preston
right as this second rowers, we're going to have Faynu
and Piss Paul. You know, that's an improvement. It's still
not what I would say two strike second rowers. It's
better than what we've got, but I still think that's building.
We're still short of lock. We're definitely short a front rower,

(12:17):
and we're short depth in the four pact for when
those guys are injured. You know, Pole is inconsistent, Hunt
has been inconsistent. It's the only Feinn who he's knocking
it out of the park. He's having a great year. Suka,
who's on the benches were I don't think he's you
know what you call consistent first grade at this stage.

(12:39):
So yeah, absolutely we're way by. And I'm worried about
Hooker as well. Mate, Like I like, Happy can't play.
He's going to play a hi minutes this week. I
don't think that's the way to go with him, and
I don't think Hope as our fourteen is the way
to go. That concerns me greatly, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, I think we need to look at look for
a backup hooker for next season. I know we've just
reached someone Hope, but I think we need someone of
higher quality than that, because in my opinion, they need
to be playing at least twenty minutes a week and
actually contributing. Hope for me, all he gives you is
arrest for Appy, and I think we need more than that.

(13:20):
And in regards to other positions in our forward pack,
we spoke at the start of the year that second
row was one of our weaknesses, and we spoke if
we get injuries in that position, it was dire. Well,
we've got injuries to our best second rower who is
only a young guy who is still a developing footballer himself.
But when you're going into games and you have the

(13:42):
likes of Suker and sayfar starting in the second row,
there's just no impact on the edge at all. There's
no threat on the edge at all. They don't get
you meters, they don't they don't run a line and
hit a gap, they don't draw defenses. They literally really
don't contribute to your attacking shape or you're an attacking
style at all. And that's why it's important that we

(14:05):
needed to Now I'm not sold on ky Peace Paul yet.
I think we'll learn more when he gets to the
club and he's playing in a side that's not well
we are fairly left hand dominant as Newcastle is, but
hopefully he'll get a little bit more opportunities to show
what he can do when he gets acrossing next year.
But that middle four that can damage the line, that

(14:26):
middle front rower prop that is crucial for us going
in the next season and we need to get that sorted.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, can I just mention I know it's a bit
off topic, Eddie, but just just to go he was
saying there to follow on front with Kypece ball. I
think that's really important when we look at our attacking
structure next year. Like we're all we all saw the
brilliance of May down that left side, and all of
a sudden we're thinking, oh, we're going to about a
shift left all the time, especially with Buller came around

(14:56):
as well. But we need to not ignore the right
side attack. Like I was watching the Heights of Canterbury
in prep for tonight's pod, and I just saw how
how beautifully they shift the ball, but they do it
left and right. You know, they shifted just as smoothly,
just as dangerously to both edges. And you know, we're
going to have a developing weapon in Pierce Paul from

(15:21):
what I've seen of him at Newcastle, and we've got
Tower who has shown that he can be absolutely dynamic
if he's got a little bit of space. So we've
got to make sure that we don't forget that right
side and that we are attacking left and right as
we develop our structure in the next year.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
To be fair, Steve at our right hand side was
probably early in the season our dominant side. Yeah, Mariuva
was scoring a lot of tries. Told was scoring a
lot of tries, making a lot of breaks. And I
really do believe, and I said it on Sunday night
as well, that the breakdown on that side has come
from the Buller injury.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
It was Lucky outvit as well though playing right.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
It was Lucky Galvin playing right as well, but he
also switched both sides, and I think Lucky Galvin's best
football was played on the left as well. So I
think the best we look on the right pretty much
so far this season is when both our halves go
to the left and give Buller the space on the
right and let him control that right hand side a
little bit. To me, that's when that right hand side

(16:22):
has looked the best and look the most dangerous. And
the fact that I think Towers drop in form over
the past couple of months, especially in attack. I'm not
going to defend his defend his defense, but in attack
he's dropping form as coincided with Buller being missing.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Simple yes, no question boys. They asked Decklan this on
Monday night. It's a little bit different because Samuel is
back starting and Royce Hunts back on the bench, but
Steve would most of these players in our starting pack.
This week make most NRL sides Terra May yes, Happy
Corossou yes, Alex Twi no, Sam Well, I find it

(17:05):
fifty to fifty not yet say half. No, Adam Dewey
no Gary the bench? Would these guys make the bench
at most.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
In RL clubs?

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Royce Hunt no, Tony Suka No for Neopole yes see
only find it.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yes and I will add to that. I think anyone
who should be starting for.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Us quick one on the signings.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I know it was a bit of a low key signing,
but this guy, Javonn Andrews played in the halves for
the Queensland on the nineteenes origin side. Gary He I
think has been contracted to the Titans. What do you
think his role will be next year? Uh?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Back up half? Probably still young enough to play Jersey flag.
So I'd like to say a bit more of him
before I make a huge judgment. I don't expect him
to be pushing for a first grade spot next year.
It's an interesting signing because we signed Madden last.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Week means it means do he's going surely?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I think it has to. But it's also another five
eight like we keep on signing hard.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
He spent most of his time at six, so it's
really interesting that we keep signing hards but we keep
signing six. Is even Madden, I think has traits about
his game that make him better suited to the being
a six as well. So yeah, it's an interesting one.
I think it's really good for DAPT fan. I actually
do really like that signing.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Maybe maybe they're six and sevens that are also of
some utility value which may stop them from getting another
hooker in the top thirty, which.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Is a mistake I think Steve, it's good enough to be.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
I'm not saying whether that's right or wrong. I'm just
saying that's what I think that there may be some
thinking behind that. I agree from what I've saent just
no way, But didn't I hear I thought I read
today that the sign that today signing is going to
be development development next year for top thirty the year after.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I think, Okay, I haven't clarified that. Gary knows.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
I think I heard the same thing. But he's also
a guy that the club should know fairly well because
he was in our system two years ago so well
maybe three years ago now, so he has spent time
at the club before, so he's returning to the club. Yeah,
a good young player who has shown some good form
through junior football. It puts a little bit of pressure

(19:36):
on the guys you have above him and gives you
a good backup. So I think it's a great signing.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Just before we move on to Jeron and Steve, I
wonder what it means for Heath Mason because like he played,
you know, it was only six weeks ago he was
starting in the halves, but now you've signed Jock Madden
and this Juvon Andrews. I wonder whether he's going to
just become a depth player or backup fullback.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, well he's picked at full back this week for
reserve grade, I'm pretty sure, so it would indicate to
me that these days in the halves is probably numbered
and he's going to be the backup.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Full back up with the second pick.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well, that that could very well be the case, that's right.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, I think if you haven't at the reserve grade
side for this weekend, Naden's picked in the halves. So
if they're picking Naden in the halves and putting Mason
at fullback, I think it's fairly likely that these days
at in the halves are over.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
What's what's his contract status there?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I know.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Next year one more year?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, I think it may be one more year.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Have a look, Steve, just last one, because I know
Gary wouldn't have changed his opinion because he said after
at him, do we had a pretty good game against
the Titans that he still hadn't seen enough? Would you
be trying to resign him?

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah? My opinion hasn't changed from when I talked about
this a couple of weeks ago. I think if he
is fit enough and he's willing to play thirteen or utility,
I think he's worth a shot at it. From what
I've seen over the last few weeks, I think he

(21:14):
could make a go at thirteen. I think he could
also make a go at fourteen in the side. And
so if there's someone better out there, then you go
for them obviously.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
But I don't think he wants to play well if
he doesn't know that, But I'm just body.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
That's that's the big question, isn't If he doesn't, then
I suppose it's goodbye. If he's willing to give it
a shot, I would be willing to give him a chance.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, I still haven't seen enough that you can change.
I think that offer of a backup role, possible bench
player at about three hundred and fifty thousand is about
the limit at the moment, and I don't think he's
shown enough in that role in the forwards to go
past that. Though. I did think he did a fairly
good job on the weekend in yardage. I actually liked

(22:06):
him running the ball, but his ball playing left a
little bit to be desired on the weekend.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Jerome Leuie front of the cameras today at Concord, came
up with a few quotes that probably music to the
ears and most of our fans. He said, I'm staying.
Don't worry for life. He said it in typical Jerome's style,
bit ad hoc. When things get hard, people are sort
of expecting you to change. I'm not that type of guy.

(22:32):
I'm here for the long run and I'm here to
change his club around. He also mentioned it was good
to see the skip happy locked in for a few
more years. I want to play some more football with him.
Surely Steve has no going back from those quotes.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
I don't think so, but I reckon I know exactly
where he's coming from. I was having a thing about
this today. He's not going to remove those clauses from
his contract because he's got a lot of respect for
Benji Marshall. He wants Benji I should be the first
grade coach moving forward. If the club maintain their contract

(23:06):
with Benji Marshall and keep Benji for extended period as
his contract states, then Louis will stay. I reckon If
the club put pressure on Benji, try to force Benji out,
then Louis will exercise the clause of his contract and
jump ship. That's why it's there. So I think he's
been one hundred percent genuine, and I also think it
makes perfect sense as to why he won't remove it

(23:28):
because he wants that pressure there, because he wants Benji
to stay. Just my opinion knowledge.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I thought of that, Steve, but I agree one thousand
percent that makes total sense to me.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Gay Yeah, I agree with it as well. I think
that cause has to be activated by April next year,
so yeah, we've got to get through to April. I
don't see him going anywhere. He always says those right things.
I love how he speaks in press conferences, but we

(23:59):
need to consistently show that on the field. We need
the guy that played in that Titans game, who I
thought showed that attitude, showed that desire for our club.
We need him every single week. That I found it funny,
like we spoke about how he played that game against
the Titans without headgear, and then last weekend the head

(24:21):
gear is back on, and I don't think that kind
of attitude was there. I hope he shows up this
weekend without the head gear because I think that's a
little bit of a statement from him, and I want
to see that extreme attitude that we saw in that
Titans game form him every week. I know he's holding
up standards all the time out on the field, but
I want that guy that played against the Titans.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
We've all given him praise Steve for his leadership and
improved standards around fans in the club and stuff like that.
But I had to chat with Deklun just about his football,
because that's what you get judged on the eighty minutes
in the field, and I don't think he's playing worse Penroth.
This is sort of what I saw last year. So
I don't know if it's been a little bit of

(25:02):
a mistake or a leap of faith for the clubs
thinking he could play halfback, but nothing. There were things
last year that I saw where I know it concerned you.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, absolutely, I've seen nothing different on the field to
what I've already seen from him in the past. Now
he could look electric when he was playing for Penrith.
He ran the ball a lot with Penrith and found
space and I think that's mainly because he had clearly

(25:34):
on one side of him and you know on the
other side of him. Right, So when you're defending against Penrith,
there are just so many attacking opportunities. You're looking all
over the place. You don't know where to go. It's
easy to break down for Penrith to breakdown opposition defense
because of the attacking options they've got, So Lui was
just part of that. We don't have that the Tigers,
So defensive teams can focus on Luis Moore and shut

(25:58):
him down a lot quicker, so he hasn't out the
space all the time. Is year to do that. He
used to throw a good pass at better hit his
his center or his back rower running good lines. What
I haven't seen enough of that. I've questioned the amount
of repetition they do with training to get that, to
get that sort of those combinations working perfectly. Maybe the

(26:21):
change in our spine has led to the haven't had
the opportunity to do that. I don't know, but I
would never ever question his effort. I'd never question his
attitude and his leadership and all that stuff. But I
do just wonder does he actually have what it takes

(26:42):
to rip sides apart while playing with the Tigers at
the moment, and I still haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I think one of the crucial thing is, and we've
already spoken about it tonight, is our lack of punch
through the middle, that big, impactful middle. I think that's
why our hearts are inconsistent. That's why sometimes our halves
and our lock are able to straighten the attack, and
why sometimes they can't. It's really difficult to straighten the

(27:10):
attack when you're playing off the back of a slow
play the ball, or you're playing off the back of
a pack that is getting dominated, and you can't put
it any other way than the last There's been three games,
two games out of last three where our pack has
just been totally outmuscled, and as a half, you can't
straighten the attack properly. When when the defensive line is

(27:30):
set and coming up on you, especially with the line
speed that Panish showed on the weekend, there's no room
to straighten. So I think it's really crucial that we
support not just Jerome but La two and whoever's playing
in that lock role by getting that middle forward who
can actually create some space and disrupt the defensive line.

(27:51):
Hopefully we see it in that a little bit this
weekend when Hunt comes under the field, because I think
that could be quite telling and show what we've been
lacking the last last six weeks.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Well, they've definitely picked the team for it.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Haven't they have.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
With the bench, It's obvious from the team that's it's
going to run out there and come off the bench.
They're going to try to play fast through the middle.
That's the only chance we've got.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Really, without jumping too much into our game preview, it's
still going to be tough this weekend, no matter what
what pack we have, because we came up yeah, well
you know what I'm about to say, Steve. We came
up against the pack that and a defense that just
strangled us last weekend. If any side's better defensively than

(28:36):
what panof is.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
When you're looking at the Bulldogs defensive system, Mate, it's.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Exactly the same. I think arguably the Bulldogs do it
better than Panriff have been doing it so far this season,
so I can see some struggles coming up against that
defense this weekend.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
There was a stat today I saw, I think it
was against the top four or five this year. Tigers
are averaging eight points a game. So we haven't played
the Bulldogs yet, but we played the Storm, we played,
the Raiders played, the Warriors played the Panthers. Might not
have included the Warriors, might have included Penrith as one
of those four, but it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
It was pretty bleak reading.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
But Steve, I mean the cynics will say that you know,
of course he's going to stay because he's not going
to get that amount of money at any other club Jerome.
But I actually think he probably would, especially given the
new club's coming in. I reckon he'd go fine if
he went to the open market.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, absolutely, especially with I think what you just said then,
especially with the new teams coming in. It's going to
open the market right up, isn't it. People are going
to be making more money. Yeah, he will. I don't
want people to think that. I don't think he's a
good football and I don't think he's value to our club.
I do. I think he's worth the money we're painting him.
I think we've needed a Jerome Law at this club. Absolutely.

(29:53):
All I'm saying is we're still yet to see that
transfer into raw or on the field. As for all
the reasons we've said, all the reasons we've said, really,
and I think Gary makes a very good point. You know,
until we're stronger in the middle, it's really maybe unfair
to judge judge you know, guys like FANU and Law.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
One of the people on the West Tigers podcast for
him had to go with me. Gary and I like.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
People, you got the name of the forum right today.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I did. Apparently I called it. I left out a word,
which Joel was horrified.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
He didn't.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
He hasn't slept for three days Joel after I did that,
so big, big sorry about that, Joel. But what was
I going to say, Gary, I'm talking about this the
podcast for him, someone abusing you. Yeah, Well, he had
to go with me because he said that Jerome's been
worth way more than two wins a year. But my
I was trying to praise him in two wins a

(30:49):
year because we have a theory in cricket when we
play fifteen games a year, if you have an individual
player that's worth two or three wins for you a year,
that's a play is that's very, very valuable. So Gary,
how many wins has he been worth this year? How
many wins would we have without him?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I would have lesson last year if we didn't have
Jerome le playing for us, and.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
You agree with me, we'd have two less wins, maybe.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Maybe two, maybe three. I haven't gone through. I'd have
to go through and have a look at the games.
But he has been fairly dominant in a lot of
our wins. I know a lot of our wins early
Galvin was fairly controlling in I thought that the game
I want to keep seeing from Loui is what I
spoke about a moment ago that the game against the

(31:35):
Gold Coast where he showed up ready to play, fired
up to play, and very nearly there'd be a lot
more praise for him at the moment if at the
end of that game he didn't get caught caught two
meters out from the try line if he had went through,
scored that try and won the game, I think the
narrative around him would be a little bit different.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
This week, Let's ask that question a different way.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
So if we replace Louis with some another half, that's
worth around the same money. So let's say we take
lay out and put Monster in right, or we take
Law and put Reynolds in from from the Broncos. Would
we have won any more games than what we've won?

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Issue?

Speaker 3 (32:20):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 4 (32:22):
I think that's a very good question.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I think Monster know, yeah, he needs someone like Jeryan Hughes.
What he adds to.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Melbourne, Steve, that's a very good question.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Reynolds is a tough one.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
You write that down, Stave, Sorry to keep interrupting, Gar.
You write that down and just come up in your head.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
No, I just I'm just full of it, full of
it or full of them?

Speaker 1 (32:54):
I think that's Gary.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
I just put it the best way I could.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I think the Adam Reynolds question is quite I'd have
to have a think about that one because I'd love
to have Adam Reynolds kicking game at our club.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Can we mark this down any please? How far in
the pot are we but Gary, Gary lost for words
first time in four years.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, so back on my point, Gary, about I need
a bit more hate from the forum. Even Mike. Mike
was being nice to me. He said he liked positive Eddie.
I thought, come on, Mike, I want to hear about
the negatives.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
What about you don't get enough hate from me? Mate,
Well you're not.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
I don't count you.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I'm talking about podcast, the fans out there on the podcast,
the listeners.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Everyone who is listening. If you don't like Eddie, make
sure you let him know. He wants to know.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Is there time on Sunday?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
There is a game and we're going to get to it,
and the fans are going to hate me more, Steve,
because I'm going to talk about Galvin for fifteen minutes.
So if you want to drop off, you can drop
off now. But before I mentioned Galvin, I'm going to
mention another person that's hated the Tigers, Ivan Cleary. Now
I am a coach at a Greek club Rami Petisha.
I'm not the head coach, I'm an assistant coach. But
our head coach, who's a Paramatta fan. He gave me

(34:11):
the book and said, well, this is a learning opportunity
for you, and I thought, well, I could throw it
in a bin, but I thought, no, I'm going to
read it. So I've actually I haven't read it all Gary,
but it is an interesting book, I've got to say.
And I went straight to the Tigers section, and that's
a podcast for another day. But I did read a
few excerpts from Appy coros Ow on Ivan Cleary. And

(34:33):
this is around the time that Appy was at Manly
and Ivan was going back to Penrith, and Appy ended
up going back to Penrith, and he did say that
no coach pushed him harder, he said, despite the fact
that he's a cool, calm guy. He said, he encouraged
me to get fitter, to work on my passing, work
on my defense, and my work rate. Now, I have

(34:56):
no doubt that Benji and Appy have a great cannet
and respect each other. But I still think, and I
don't know this because we're outsiders, we're outside the four walls.
I hope Benji's pushing him as hard as Ivan did.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, you know why Ivan clear is so hated by
Tigers fans, Jair.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
It wasn't my question why, Well, because he could have
turned our club around.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
He is the coach that could have turned our club around.
He chose to go elsewhere. And I don't know whether
Benji's driving the standards as hard as Ivan does at
the club, but I think that's why we bring in
a guy like Jerome Luai who's from his successful club
with high standards to help drive those standards. It does

(35:41):
have to come first from that coaching staff, and I
hope it is. Everything Benji said over the off season
was about how he changed how he was approaching this
season and how he was working with players. You saw
the players come back overweight and have to front the board.
So all the talk around it is that those standards

(36:03):
have improved at the club. What I've heard all along
about Hunt being in reserve grade is that he wasn't
meeting KPIs on fitness. And if these things are happening
at the club, then I think we're going in the
right direction towards that maybe he has that up the
ante again going into next season. But I can only

(36:24):
go on what I've heard, and it seems to me
that he is at least making attempt to drive higher standards,
higher fitness levels and drive the players a little bit
harder than what he did last year at least.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
So I mentioned at the top of the pod that
I'd listened today to Turol May and Taruva. Now both
those guys on their pod could not speak highly enough
of Benji Marshall. Now, I know we can only take
him at face value, and you know, we just hope
that they're telling us the truth and that's their true belist.
But that's all we've got to go on. Now to

(36:57):
Mays come out of the Rooster system and Taruver's come
out of the Penrith system. So you would expect that
both those systems and the coaches have been you know,
once Clearing obviously and the other being Robinson. You think
those standards being driven there in those two organizations will
be pretty high. So for them to have the affection

(37:17):
for Benji that they do must mean they believe he's
doing something right. And that's all we've got to go on.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
And we have a history of players coming to our
club and falling off a cliff and for the majority
of our signings, I don't think you can really say
that about the guys this year. You can talk about
Jerome Lawi's play not being of the standard that we
need it to be. But Terrell May has come to
our club, he's a better footballer than he was at

(37:46):
the Roosters. Taruver's come across to our club. I don't
think you can say his forms dropped away, and in fact,
I think he's shown over the past couple of weeks
he's not just a winger, that he is an adequate
backup when we need someone to play fullback. So it's
not like those players have come into our system and

(38:06):
fallen into what we do at our club and their
form and their fitness levels have reduced. Even though a
guy like Hunt, who we've had playing reserve grade due
to fitness issues, it's not really any difference to what
you're seeing from him last season at Cronulla. So I
don't really see the evidence of players fitness levels dropping

(38:28):
when they've come to our club this year like we
have in the past, or their form totally dropping off
a cliff when they've come to our club. So the
evidence there for me is that there is an improvement
in how hard they're being pushed at training and how
hard Benji Marshall has been working them, especially in the
off season.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Just playing devil's advocate on that, Steve, because that's my
job as host. It's also my opinion probably this so.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
So it's not really playing devil's advocate.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
It's a little bit of both. But I don't disagree
with you, Gary. All those guys are playing good football,
and that is a definite improvement of senior players we've
recruited in the past. There's no doubt they like Benji.
There's no doubt they respect Benji. I just look at
the characters of those guys, and I love the characters
of them, especially Taruva and Terrell and Happy. I think

(39:17):
they are Alarikans, a lot of them jovial characters, loud characters,
and there's no issue with having that. You need that
in any team dynamic. But I don't want it to
become a boys club, Steve. Like, honestly, they've got to
show it on the field as a team before I
start to go all in. Because our master is tied

(39:38):
to Jerome Happy and Benji for the next three or
four years, it's all in. Like, I agree with you, guys, Like,
there's no point getting rid of Benji. I think he's
building something. He's got good recruits, but they've got to
show it on the field as a team.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
I can't disagree with that, but as we've said, you know,
a nauseam now really to be a consistently competitive team
at NRO level, we're still a couple of players, sure,
at least at least a couple. I'm trying to to

(40:12):
be positive, like let's say two starters two in our
seventeen and three or four backups, you know, for when
we injuries hit, short of a really competitive squad. And
we've had a lot of change this year, and then
we've had a lot of disruption, and what we haven't
seen I think we've seen a team come together in
effort attitude. We haven't seen a team come together in

(40:36):
structure on the football field. And that's what's missing now.
Whether that's reflective of the coaching or whether it's just
reflective of circumstance, which is part cattle, part disruption, I'm
really not sure. What we've got to hope I suppose
I've been hoping for a long time is that we

(40:57):
do improve the roster again for next year. And that
last piece of the puzzle, if you want to put
it that way, where our structure and our execution matches
our effort and attitude, then we've got a good football site.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah. Benji Marshall as a coach, I think is doing
a great job man managing I think he's driving decent
standards with the help of guys like Appy Terrell and
Jerome in the club at Taruva as well. But the
question mark, and the big question mark is still around
game plans. That there's been games that we've watched this

(41:34):
year where it's really difficult to see what we're trying
to do and how we're trying to score points and
how we're trying to beat the opposition. And it was
a little bit like that on the weekend again. So
that's the big question mark around Benji Marshall's coaching still.
I don't think I don't really think it's around motivation
and getting the players up and getting a commitment side

(41:55):
and working the players. I think the big question mark
for Benji Marshall as a coach is whether he can
do the ex's and o's that keep that everyone keeps
raising during this season that he may be lacking. It's
a big off season for him and we need to
come back next season as a well structured side that
is able to run shape and is able to strip numbers,

(42:18):
and is able to attack in a style that's just
not shifting the ball left to right, which is what
we tend to do.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
It's a nice little segue there, Gary and Steve.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
I don't want you to be as hated as I'm
going to be this week on the podcast for him.
I mean, you may or may not have asked for
Ivan clear his book after I finished reading it.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
But that aside.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
The interesting thing that Appy said, The final thing I'll
go on is he said the biggest strength of Ivan
Cleary was he surrounded himself with great assistant coaches. He said,
they did the attack, they did the defense, and I
haven't ran the mental approach to our game.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Well we've said that before as well, haven't Wen. I
don't think there's an argument You're not going to get
an oment from me. I'm concerned that we don't have
the depth of experience around Benji.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
That we as Todd paytonsicked yet, not that I'm aware of,
Not that I'm aware, But the bigger concern for me,
and I've said this before, is that I just think
Benji has wanted to surround himself with people that he
knows and he feels comfortable with, because he just didn't
want to be threatened or challenged or questioned in these

(43:30):
early stages of coaching, which is a very typical reaction
for someone begin beginning their leadership career, I suppose.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
But he's got to get over that. He's got to
get people underneath him that are going to challenge him
every step of the way, and guys that aren't yes man,
guys that aren't just going to say yes to Benji
and agree with him, but are going to say no, mate,
that's not the way to do it. This is the
way to do it, and Benji might need to hand
over well, we don't know if he does this or
not right. You might need to have a certain part

(44:00):
of the game plan to his assistant coaches and then
have Turtle trust in him to come up with the
formulate the right plan and then execute it with the team.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
The best leaders around themselves were people who make them
look good, who are able to do things that are
standard quite often above what the leader can do themselves,
and I think that's crucial for Benji Marshall moving forward.
If he wants to be a strong leader. If he
wants to be a strong coach, he needs the best
assistance around him.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
All right, boys, Lucky Galvin. This Sunday we play the Bulldogs.
That's going to be the big talking point going into it,
I think, And there's no surprise that Leui. I know
there's this silly whatever it is non disparagement, So no
one's going to say anything in the press. Galva's not
going to say anything. Tigers are not going to say anything.
But I think this is the biggest game of Benji's

(44:52):
coaching career, Steve, and he doesn't have to win it,
but he can't. They can't get flogged. I think this
is personal this week.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Oh absolutely, it's personal, and it's going to be personal
for the thirty thousand odd fans that are out there
as well, Tigers and Bulldog supporters, because the Tigers supporters
are going to be baying for blood and the Bulldog
supporters are fairly animated supporter group so that way, so
they are going to want to defend themselves. So I

(45:21):
think the atmosphere is going to be fever pitch that
is going to have an impact on the players who
are already going to be psyched up for this game,
and the Tigers are going to go out there wanting
to make a statement and they're going to want to
make a statement to Galvin, and they're going to want
to win the game just to shove it up Galvin.
There's no getting away from that. The thing is they've

(45:44):
got to make sure they win the game. That's the
first things.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Fine line, Gary, I'm looking at through my coach's lens
here because it's a little bit different in cricket, Like
if a player had done that to me halfway through
the season, I'd be telling our guys at training to
make it personal this week, although probably wouldn't even have
to say anything because they know that they showed their
support for Benji at the time, so he wouldn't even
have to say anything to them about it. But we

(46:12):
also saw in that Paramatta game that they played a
little bit angry and they played a little bit frantic
and if you just focus on one guy, Canterbury's got
a very good side across the park, so they can't
go into the game overly emotional like they did against Paramatta.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, it's a really tough one. The players are going
to be pumped to really have a rettop crack at him,
I think, and I would almost be doing the opposite
with them, is not focusing on him at all. Because
we're are an ill disciplined club. We have a lot
of ill disciplined players, and I don't think it would

(46:47):
take much for a couple of our guys to overstep
that mark and probably try and overplay it a little
bit and get into his face too much and try
too hard. Sometimes when you do that, the emotion gets
takes you away and you take your mind off playing football.
And that's probably my biggest concern in regards to that

(47:09):
this weekend, is that we kind of overdo that side
of it and look, to be honest, it's probably a
chance of happening the other way as well. I'm sure
Galvin's really keen to come out and put on a
really strong performance this weekend, and he could go the
other way as well and overplay his hand in that

(47:29):
and kind of disrupt what the Bulldogs have been doing.
So I think it's a fine line for both sides
of the kind of divide to play it.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
I think it's probably an individual choice. Steve. Whether there's
words out there I always find again, I'm sorry to
harp on the cricket. But I find there's guys that
don't like confrontation and there's no point them going out
of their sort of shell to do that. But guys
like Jerome and others, I'd be making this ledge just personal,
be going at him hard because you're not going to

(48:02):
get a chance to do it in the media. You're
not going to get a chance to do it after
the game. The only time you can do it is
on that field.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, the big thing is not to lose control. That's
what it's all about. So if they want to make
it personal, if they want to hit him as hard
as they can hit him, you know, legally and verbally
as well as physically, if that's what they want to do,
as long as they don't overstep the mark, you know,
Canterby will squeeze the life out of you. So, as
Gary was saying, we're just going to have to we

(48:29):
have to be so disciplined, we have to be mistake free.
We have to be playing almost the perfect game, the
best that we can possibly play to give ourselves a
chance to beat his side. If we go over the top,
if we make it all about Galvin, we will get
penalized out of the game and we will get smashed.

(48:50):
We've got to go there. The best thing to show
Galvin what we think of him is to go out
there and put in an outstanding performance and when the
two points and dominate them. That's the way to do it. Now,
that is going to be so difficult to do, and
even at our best, I'm not sure if we can
do it. But we've got to give it a red
hot crack. Calling him names and getting up him from

(49:14):
the defensive line. Yeah, that might impact him for five
ten minutes, but it's not going to change the impact
of the game.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, the players can just leave it to Steve. He
can have used them abusing from over the fence.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I'm close enough. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
I don't want to go to the game Sunday. I
don't want to sit with like, thanks thanks Richel. Like
We've got a home game now against Cannabury. There's going
to be twenty three thousand Cannary fans of the twenty
eight thousand out there because I reckon you'll get a
full house. It'd be a great atmosphere. But you know, Steve,
no no point playing it cut or anything like that.
Let's go to Kombank. Let's give away the advantage.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Yeah, well, I think they're on track. From what I've heard,
they're on track for high twenties.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Oh Richard be thrilled.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah, I don't know what the makeup.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Is going to be.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
You know what, if we score the first two tries,
then we shut the Canterbury supporters up pretty quickly. They
score the first two tries and they shut us up
pretty quickly. So it's all in the way the players
perform out in the field. Get out there, play discipline football,
you know, attack their weaknesses, play to our strengths and

(50:22):
try to stick with them to keep the crowd in
the game. And if we keep the crowd in the game,
the crowd will give it to Galvin. And there is
a chance. I think he's immature, he's young. It doesn't
take the best options at the best of times. Put
him under a bit of pressure and stress and he
might just spill his.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Lollies, especially if he's going into the game Steve with
a point to prove and he tries overplay his hand,
which I think I think is a big chance this weekend.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
All right, Well, I mean the old saying is Steve,
I know I was having a bit of a rant
there at Richard. But the old saying is it's still
the same length field and it's the same grass and
everything like that, isn't it just don't have the fan
badly for us?

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Yeah? Well, I do think the fans make a difference made.
The bottom one is that their team is outstanding on
paper and the way they've been playing. They are so disciplined,
but they you know, their defense is just brilliant, but
they can attack you, as you said, from anywhere, so
we are going to have to play above and beyond
to even get close.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I think yes, Then you said we should attack their weaknesses?
What are their weaknesses?

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Made?

Speaker 1 (51:29):
On a serious note, I think Connor Tracey is a
big out for them, like that's one thing is going
to fall back and he's good footballer.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
But I'm not sure who's come on the wing. But
last week.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
I actually think I've got a positive feeling. I'm not
going to predict we're going to win. I think it's
going to be.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
This isn't one of your two, Nat.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
I wanted to do it, but I'm just I'm just
gun show Gary. I can't come out and guarantee we're
going to beat Canterbury. I just got a feeling, and
unfortunately I sort of had the same feeling going into
the Paramatta game. I thought we were going to fire
up and win, and I'm hoping that's going to be
the case this week. I think from a gambling perspective, Gary,
I know you're not a gambler, but I think eleven

(52:12):
and a half start I think we can cover that.
I'll be disappointed if we don't in this game, I
don't think. I think the baller inclusion is a big one.
And Samuela if he plays and hunt on the bench,
I much. I really prefer that that lineup this week.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Gary.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
The big one for the big one, sorry, the big
one for me? Yeah, that's all right, Well I've put
my hand up. The big one for me is our
defensive line. Now. I watched the highlights of Canterbury their
game against Many, and they just shift the ball so beautifully.
It was such precision and quickly. Our defensive line has

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been compressed and compressed and compressed because we haven't been
winning the forward battle and we just have got so
many gaps out in our reaches where we've got out,
especially skeleton. But Taruva has been known to do this
as well, of coming off their wing, going for the
big play, leaving the line open and then missing the

(53:13):
tackle complete and just leaving space. If we defend the
way we've defended over the last few weeks, they will
put a cricket score on us. If we can go
back to defending the way we did at the beginning
of the season with our top team on the paddic
which is what we've got this year, which had a
lot of structure to it, but I had a lot
of scramble, a lot of effort players in our defense.

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If we can compete at that level defensively and frustrate them,
then maybe we've got a chance.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Maybe four forwards on the bench. Scarry, you can love that.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yeah, I think that's a needed this weekend. I don't
think Appy should be playing eighty minutes every week, but
this is a game where I'd be picking him to
play eighty minutes because it's a game where we need
that extra bench.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
But by after as well.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Yeah, look, Abby did get very ragged in defense just
before he came off on the weekend, but Hope came
on and his defense from the start was just as
bad as Happy, So I'm quite happy for Happy to
be playing the eighty minutes this week. Skeleton's defense on
the wing has been really bad the last couple of weeks.
I know everyone gets excited by him rushing. They're coming

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after him, Yeah, they're they're really coming for him this weekend.
I don't want to see him looking for those big hits,
but too many times he comes in and puts himself
out of position. Even when he puts them on, his
winger is unmarked in that situation. I don't want to
see him doing that this weekend because they're just stripping

(54:50):
for numbers and yeah, that's bad news. So defensively, you've
got to be really sound. I am still really worried
about our attack. Our attack hasn't great against really strong
defensive sides, even with our full strength side on the Paddy,
So it's going to be really difficult to score enough
points to cover that eleven point start. Yeah, yeah, that's

(55:13):
going to be really tough. So hopefully the inclusion of
Buller and Sam coming back really strengthens up the left
hand edge through the second row and also the right
edge with Buller playing on that edge.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
God, these queerz boys, it's time for it. I've proof
read it today, so I'm hoping it's a little bit
more seamless than it was last week.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
Steve.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Question number one is multiple choice. Which of these special
edition jerseys have we not worn against the Bulldogs? Is
it a the Anzac jersey, b our Main Heritage jersey,
see Indigenous jersey for West Magpies Heritage jersey Gary.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Which have not we not d.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
See it was d so no West Heritage jersey against
the Bulldogs. We wore the Anzac jersey in twenty fifteen
baw Main jersey. I remember this now I'm reading it
two thousand when we won fifty four to two against
the Bulldogs, and the Indigenous jersey was in twenty sixteen.
Question number two, name the three West Tigers players who

(56:18):
have kicked a field goal against the Bulldogs. Give her
a little clue. One was in two thousand.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
And five in a famous second round.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Had thirty seven thirty.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Six Benji Scott Prince kicked it.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Yep, it was Scott Prince. The other two were in
the halves as well. One played a lot of games
so the West Tigers. One played only a couple of seasons.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
John Morris, Nope, Luke Brooks.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Luke Brooks in twenty twenty in a twenty nine to
twenty eight win, and the other one was our half
back in twenty ten, and even Louis Louis in a
nineteen twelve victory. Question number three true or false? In
our thirty seven thirty six win in two thousand and five,
no player from either side scored multiple tries hint, twelve

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tries were scored in total, both sides scored six. Is
that true or false?

Speaker 3 (57:11):
That's that true?

Speaker 1 (57:12):
False, it's false. Scott Prince scored a double and brath
nasked to scored a double as well.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
For you, Steve, I don't know why I hang around
for this.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
You gets so angry when he gets these multiple choice
He's got two options tails. He gets it wrong every time.
Question number four, nearest to the pin out of fifty games,
coach for the joint venture Terry Lamb had, how many
wins Gary out of fifty.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Eighteen Steve.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Nineteen sixteen sixteen is the correct answer? Steve's just left
the room. He's thrown the toys out of the cop
Last question It's called Yolly's story Time This week go
to sleep Steve.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Yeah, there's going to be a story to Yadia after
this Tenia.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
It was around seventeen, two thousand and six. The Premiers
were hosting the Bulldogs at Olympic Park. Future West Tigers
wing and Matt Utah was sent off for a high
tackle on our hookers. Stuart Flanagan Canary led thirty two
nil after seventy two minutes. Taniela Tuiaki scored our first

(58:26):
try in the seventy third minute. In the seventy fifth minute,
the tank Tuaki bustled its way down the touch line,
was in the clear, no defender in sight, and reached
the try line and rather than put it down he
decided to pass it to someone to score. The tray
shows it was rangy, chase scary. I think a few

(58:47):
punters might have backed to Aki for the last try
that day. They would have been horrified.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Tim Sheens was ropeable about that.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
Yeah, well we got flogged anyway.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Yeah, he wasn't in that. Players were were just giving
tries away and doing that.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
All right, boys.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
I thought that was a strong podcast. I'd like to
see on the podcast for them a little bit of
hate mail though. I'd like to know what we did
wrong tonight rather than what we're doing right.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
So you're throwing us all in it now, not just.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
You, you and me because I mentioned Cleary, I spoke
about his book for five minutes, and then I mentioned
Galmut although I did say make it personal and sledge him,
so hopefully that gets me a few points back. But
it's been good chatting boys, and you're planning on going
to Steve Yes.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
I was just going to say one thing that we've
done wrong is not mentioned the ambush.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Mate, Sorry mate, that you didn't tell me that you start.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Which is on this The Ambusher holding an event this Sunday.
It's out of our combat. So the gates open at
half past twelve and our function is going to kick
off at around twelve forty five through to one point thirty.
Give your hips the time ago and get your seats
before kickoff at two o'clock. The function is in the
bar adjacent to Gate two, So coming through Gate two
and just comes straight to the bar there you'll see

(01:00:02):
all the Ambush guys. We are going to have a
guest from West Tigers. We're still finalizing who that is,
but we know we've got someone which we will promote
on socials. As soon as we know who it is.
There will be giveaways. We'll have you on his quiz,
which will be done as usual. So if you want
to come and say a load of some Tiger supporters
and the ambush crew come and say gooday. Before we

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watch the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Game, Nick going to turn up to that Gary.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
He likes to turn up, doesn't he ambush?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Yeah, you gets excited when he's one fan comes and
says a load wing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
All right, boys, Well let's hope we get a win Sunday.
It'll be a memorable one if we do. If not,
we'll still run up Sunday night. Thank you, cheers, Go boys,